1.20.30.20 - Preview

[coarse scaffold]

:<

Apparently people know me well here

[dusty grove]

speaking of cool stuff that exists in the game but can't be modifed - ore ui

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OreUI can be modified

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how?

[inland meteor]

It can. Just not via resource

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you need to modify the game files

[dusty grove]

oh, that

resource packs when 🥺

[inland meteor]

I don't know anyone who's done it extensively yet though

Besides what? Duplicating toggles?

[coarse scaffold]

I added new components to Editor mode

[inland meteor]

Oh yeah

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and I think I tried adding controller support to it too

[dusty grove]

just noticed that particles have motion blur lol

i suppose it's an artifact

but an interesting one nonetheless

[inland meteor]

It is. byproduct of upscaling

[dusty grove]

aha

good to know

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what about OREUI

[coarse scaffold]

I can't wait for OreUI

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me too

[coarse scaffold]

I've been waiting for over a year and it's still not out

[tardy seal]

pfft only a year and a half

[coarse scaffold]

and i can wait longer :D

maybe not very long but i can still wait

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what is OreUI?

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the new ui system

[low quarry]

when will mojang fix inventory ui?

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where can I see info about it?

[coarse scaffold]

it’s being used in the achievements screen, the new create new world screen, the announcement modals …

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oohh

[coarse scaffold]

I’m pretty sure there’s no info about it because you can’t use it in add-ons yet

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wdym?

[fiery jackal]

Hahaha a year in a half . Please i waited my entire childhood and teenager days up to today for shader. Kids these day dont know what wating trully mean

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ui based on HTML & CSS

using React

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that's a lot of time

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i can’t wait for them to open source the rest of their react stuff

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/853890157198442496.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[coarse scaffold]

Yeah :<

but at least i learned a lot about OreUI :D

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it will be one of the best implementations

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in the docs?

[coarse scaffold]

Nope

I learned a lot about how OreUI works

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☝️ 🤓

too ez?

[coarse scaffold]

Yes

at least it was fun learning about how something works

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i guess

[pliant crag]

So many messages y'all are going hard

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Most talked about Preview, about 1000 more messages than 1.19.80.20 preview when Editor got released

[wary ice]

Because of one feature that can make some device into stove

[dusty grove]

@coarse scaffold since oreui is react and react is also js, would that mean oreui will have to release alongside client scripts? 🤔

[coarse scaffold]

maybe

[dusty grove]

hmm

not sure if i should be happy or not about this

on one hand, it could mean 2 insane features coming together

on the other hand, it could mean an eternity before these actually release

[plush slate]

can we use react librarys like react-three-fiber with it

[bright arch]

it is most likely possible to use external libraries

[severe finch]

My phone can't handle the shaders

[cold geode]

Good morning :D

also welcome @tall arrow to bedrock addons

[lime knot]

how do you get the built in shaders thing in the preview version?

[twilit igloo]

1. Download any Minecraft PBR Texture Pack
2. Install it to Minecraft and enable it
3. Make / Edit a World with "Render Dragon Feature for Creators" in Experimental Features
4. Once you are inside your world, enter your settings > Video
5. Scroll down till you see "Graphics Mode"
6. Switch it to "Deffered Technical Preview"

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what? im not new xd

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see?

1099 days lol

[inland meteor]

Where's the best place to submit feedback for deferred rendering?

[humble oxide]

These shaders are not RTX

[twilit igloo]

oh my bad, I should've said pbr texture pack instead of rtx, thanks for correcting me

[half radish]

a mali user got confused

[simple shadow]

be me
wakes up
sees minecraft now has shadows and bloom in vanilla
goes back to sleep
wake me up when the dream is over pls

[orchid bay]

I hope rtx gets entity pbr at some point

idk if its physically possible for rtx to interact with particles properly but it'd be nice

[dusty grove]

ping kayla

[twilit egret]

lets harras all the mojangsters away!

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/782061840820600842.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[vale charm]

I can't enable it.

😭

[coarse scaffold]

try applying this pack @vale charm

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I did.

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oof

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Windows?

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Yes...

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You need DX12

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I have DX11.

[twilit egret]

many people cant get minecraft running with directx 12 even when their computer supports it

[vale charm]

Yes, my computer supports dx12.

[wind pulsar]

you need to force minecraft to use dx12 I think

I'm unsure because I'm linux user, not windows.

[thin root]

but... Bedrock on Linux? 🤨

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How?

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ayo try checking dxdiag

like this

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I checked.

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check this

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what is your feature level

is it because of wddm

[vale charm]

I don't know what is that...

How do I update?

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we dont know what is the cause of the some users using dx11 instead of dx12 even though their pc supports it

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may i know your gpu

[vale charm]

Yes.

Here.

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ok wait

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Thanks.

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if you dont mind can you send me the cpu name

[vale charm]

Okay.

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1065G7 CPU @ 1.30GHz 1.50 GHz

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try checking updates in windows for gpu updates

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No updates.

😭

[coarse scaffold]

rain doesn't exist in deferrred apparently

[vale charm]

I want to test deferred shaders.

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i am sorry i suspect that it has to do with video memory

[vale charm]

💀

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so the all shader rendering has forgot about water

[coarse scaffold]

rain is not water in Minecraft

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they are particles of water my friend

[coarse scaffold]

But still not water

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true

[wind pulsar]

can't.

technically it's just android brench but, I don't think it has latest beta though

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it is possible

[wind pulsar]

it's possible to run bedrock on linux

but I'm pretty unsure about running beta on it

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no i mean the latest beta

[wind pulsar]

It probably gonna crash anyways

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i mean without shaders

lol

[wind pulsar]

since bedrock on linux was using android version brench, so therefore it gonna expect me using mobile SOC or something

[wind pulsar]

I meant about shaders.

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is it possible to translate it into androidx86 and run it

it would be too slow but

[wind pulsar]

Minecraft android brench has x86_64, since android has all of architecture.

so yeah if you install actual android in your laptop or PC, you'll still able to play minecraft just fine

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ok

so is mac users running java with a translation layer on m1

they would be better with bedrock

as m1 is arm however you will need to use their new game porting tool to metal

[wind pulsar]

If the game is on iphone, that can be ported easily to Mac.

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i never used iphone so are they on opengles or metal

[wind pulsar]

since both OS are literally using the same kernel and same system architecture

all differences is just different on how app runs and interface.

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so basically if minecraft were to run on metal it be better

[wind pulsar]

I guess

I don't use apple stuff so

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about optimization xbox and ps5 players still waiting XD

[wind pulsar]

Xbox should be easy to optimize since it's literally stripped version of windows.

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it should be easy, When that ray tracing leak come out they were optimizing it cause the icon had x/s logo

they are doing it

i am underwater xd

[pliant crag]

No rain allowed. Kayla had enough of it

[coarse scaffold]

Poor Kayla

[cold geode]

now how's she gonna have water since she is an NPC instance though

and also yes i have reached home early today

[ivory coyote]

i also have WDDM 2.7 but its working on my pc

[humble oxide]

what you're seeing here took me a long time. Why? Well the values from the doc made night sky blue, so I had to play around and I finally got the correct values.

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very nice

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i think it has to do with igpu vram

[ivory coyote]

oh 128mb vram, i have 512mb

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ye me too

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i can confirm that it has to do with vram

every person who has dx11 problem has 128 vram

[ivory coyote]

ohhhh i want this 🫣

[coarse scaffold]

glowing water

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i dont why but i thought of twilight portal

[coarse scaffold]

lol

[ivory coyote]

imagine water is glowing but sea lantern is not xD

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it is tho with packs

is there a tool to replace files in renderer in

i tried to add this in the renderer file

i cant

[coarse scaffold]

i tried modifying that

i added glowstone to it but it changed nothing

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how did you do it?

[coarse scaffold]

copy the file to my desktop, edit it, use iobit unlocked to copy it back

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you mean this

[coarse scaffold]

Yeah

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do i have to delete the og file

[coarse scaffold]

Yes, you have to delete the one in the files otherwise it’s gonna fail to copy

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bruh

[humble oxide]

add flowers around it and you got yourself a twilight portal

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it works thanks you

[coarse scaffold]

i haven’t played with that mod in over 6 years lol

[humble oxide]

cursed shader image

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evil room

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a witch with entity pbr and some camera commands we can make a movie for real

[coarse scaffold]

Oooo

[ivory coyote]

is it possible to make mirror?

[coarse scaffold]

not possible yet

hopefully we get that some time in the future

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i suspect that it would be exclusive to rtx

[ivory coyote]

please no i cant afford that xD

[inland meteor]

There are a few real time techniques that could be used for nice reflections

For example, SSR, but that only works to show things on-screen

Then there are cube maps but they won't always align well with the scene

A combination of both would be great

[cold geode]

Back on PC after a long time.

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nah mojang gotta add some fsr or xess. With reflections my pc about to cook literally 🔥🔥

[coarse scaffold]

Only if we had the mirror effect from RTX

[cold geode]

wait a second. My pc is on directx12 but it ain't showing up technical preview lol

how do i make Minecraft use that though

[coarse scaffold]

what does it say on the debug screen?

DX11 or 12?

[cold geode]

D3D11

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oof

[cold geode]

But my pc is on directx12

:/

Wanna have a screeny ig?

Wait. Lemme send a quick photo thing if possible

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yo go to dxdiag and display screen shot it

[coarse scaffold]

they need to let use choose whether or not we wanna use DX12

[cold geode]

Hope that works lol

Im lazy to send a screeny lol

[cold geode]

yes

oh wait it popped up nvm

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no go to display 1

there are some intricate information

[cold geode]

right

[coarse scaffold]

check display 1

[tired edge]

what pack would you recommend for the new feature?

[fiery jackal]

Anyone know the comand that allows time pass quickly

[cold geode]

there

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I think it has to do with igpu vram being 128mb

[tired edge]

GPU

[coarse scaffold]

hmm

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everyone who has dx11 problem i've seen has 128mb for igpu

[cold geode]

hmm

How do i change it?

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you can't

[tired edge]

AMD MDAA!!

[cold geode]

DirectX Ultimate is disabled too.

Is that normal though lol

[coarse scaffold]

You can't change the amount of VRAM

[tired edge]

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dx ultimate disable is fine mine is disable too

[tired edge]

Mi ebali vas , vsei stadom

[coarse scaffold]

same

[cold geode]

right

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i think dx 12 cant use 128 vram and minecraft switches to dx 11

[coarse scaffold]

English only please

[cold geode]

U sure?

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"i think"

[tired edge]

How you this understand?

🤣

[coarse scaffold]

Wdym?

[cold geode]

how do you understand it lol

[coarse scaffold]

I understood absolutely nothing from that message

[tired edge]

I bad know English 😅 I stupid

[coarse scaffold]

but all I know is that it's not in english

[tired edge]

Yes

I wrote in my language but qwerty

I live in Russia

[coarse scaffold]

I can already tell by your username lol

[tired edge]

Haha

bald duck

Hehe

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your pfp is drip tho

[tired edge]

what is pfp?

[coarse scaffold]

profile picture

[tired edge]

thanks

[tired edge]

Is the profile liquid like water to drip?

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drip mean cool

it is a slang

[tired edge]

Thank you))

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no problem

[tired edge]

I'm a teapot a little in this matter 🤣🗿

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this is a bug

light clipping through blocks

0:10 sec

[coarse scaffold]

yeah, i noticed that too lol

i think i have a screenshot

[scarlet mauve]

Is that the sun clipping through?

[coarse scaffold]

i noticed it when i was messing with lanterns

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no the light is clipping through even tho it is night

[scarlet mauve]

Weird

Make a bugreport I would say

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sorry it was night

this is at noon

this is at /time set day

this is at sun rise

you can't seem much but look at the diamond

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about that are they accepting bugs about shaders?

[coarse scaffold]

Yes

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king dark can you test it

[scarlet mauve]

As this is actually supported, they should also support bugreports being send :P

[coarse scaffold]

sure!

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i want to make sure i am not the only one

[inland meteor]

Wait I never saw that highlight on water before

[coarse scaffold]

I created a textureset lol

[inland meteor]

Doh of course why didn't I think of that 🤦

[coarse scaffold]

it's fine lol

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we making a bug report

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last time i tried registering on Mojira, i wasn't able to

[night linden]

Although RTX can mirror, it looks very similar

[coarse scaffold]

iirc both of them use PBR

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is it rtx or shader i am confused

[night linden]

rtx

[coarse scaffold]

RTX

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oh

i was like i need to try that

[night linden]

The ability to mirror blocks in RTX is actually the only difference

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i would like to try mirroring but i think it would be too hardware intesive for phones

block tracking would be fine

but player tracking would be insane

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https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-174000

we up

[night linden]

but i like the fact that 20 rtx cores have the same power in 3d rendering as 2500 cuda cores

i dont understand why snapdragon dont build 20 rtx core in the chip

[coarse scaffold]

yay!

[night linden]

when 200 core are there why not adding a cople rtx cores

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bro they cant with the price and the ability to ray trace is demanding power or energy and phones cant give the power to ray trace

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what cores are you talking about

[night linden]

cuda cores

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do you mean in phone?

[night linden]

jes

[night linden]

no my laptop make less noise when i use rtx

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bro laptop and upscaling

[night linden]

imagine a gpu has 2500 rtx core . thats unlimites power

[night linden]

why not

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but phone dont have that

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unlimited power comes with unlimited energy bills

[night linden]

unfortunately

[night linden]

why are you thinking that 2500 rtx core needs more energy than 2500 cuda cores?

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however arm has given us gpus with raytracing cores

[night linden]

👀

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https://videocardz.com/press-release/arm-introduces-immortalis-g715-gpu-with-hardware-raytracing-acceleration

[coarse scaffold]

#off-topic please

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sorry mate

[night linden]

That's exactly what I want for mobile phones👀

[coarse scaffold]

Uhm, 1.20.20.23??

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wait

wrong preview sorry

edited it

[coarse scaffold]

Yes

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can you view the pictures in the website

[coarse scaffold]

Yes, I can

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ok i can't view it so i thought my pictures has errors

[coarse scaffold]

I crashed the preview so hard that it doesn't even wanna open anymore lmao

[ivory coyote]

i cant wait for the complementary shaders bedrock edition

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how????

@coarse scaffold I am confused about this.

i have seen shaders by poggy and some other players

[coarse scaffold]

I don't even know lol

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none of them have water fixed is this mojang problem or us

[coarse scaffold]

wdym?

water looks fine for me

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i am underwater

water is transparent to mee

do you have to do texture sets???

[coarse scaffold]

hmm

[coarse scaffold]

i don't think you need texturesets for water but you can try

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then how did you do it?

[coarse scaffold]

it might be texturesets, i can't test right now because the preview doesn't wanna open

[ivory coyote]

is it still gonna work even if the pack that i have only have manifest with the requirements for the deferred?

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only torches and lanterns

[wind pulsar]

I hope the ghost effect go away in the next update though

I never seen such shaders ever has ghosting effect

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what is that

?

[wind pulsar]

ghost effect is basically something like stuck pixel but temporarily

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oh i know now

[wind pulsar]

sometimes when you placing redstone torches too much, it can cause ghost effect

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i though it was my device issue

[wind pulsar]

It'll go away after looking around at something bright so yeah

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yeah

[wind pulsar]

ghosting effect seems common in rtx though iirc

[vapid crater]

I don't like the sunset fully orange, I think it needs some blue too

[inland meteor]

a lot of shaders don't use TAA

But I do agree that it can be improved

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so it is because of TAA

[inland meteor]

Temportal Antialiasing

It uses previous frames to help smooth the frames after it

[coarse scaffold]

same!

[twilit egret]

how does the upscaling toggle work?

[inland meteor]

I explained, lol

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would other forms of taa help

[inland meteor]

That's the core mechanics of TAA

Not really TAA without it

[twilit egret]

so its not upscaling?

[inland meteor]

it is

ish

[coarse scaffold]

basically it lowers your resolution for better performance and uses ai to upscale the game for you

[inland meteor]

For deferred it's not AI

It's literally just TAA

[twilit egret]

how do we know its that?

[coarse scaffold]

i'm talking about upscaling in general

like how nvidia does it

[wind pulsar]

I wish there's upscaling for mobile though, well I guess that's too much asking for portable device that was supposed to make a message and call.

[inland meteor]

Ghosting happens when the previous frame is not properly blended with the next frame. That's what TAA does

Temporal antialiasing

It would be funny to think they would use anything more advanced for lower end hardware

[wind pulsar]

well

they kinda did.

some devices has voice changer built-in on their game service thingy

don't know why do people need voice changer on their phone, but it's there.

[inland meteor]

I wasn't talking about audio though..

[wind pulsar]

the GPU drivers is also there too, so you can tweak how stupid low texture gonna be, or low it's resolution without changing anything in-game

[inland meteor]

Yeah, that's part of upscaling. Taking a lower resolution texture and making it appear more detailed

[coarse scaffold]

hmm

i don't i've ever noticed cloud shadows

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i have

yes

yo can see it very clearly in super flat

[coarse scaffold]

hmm

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you need to render clouds

it is barely noticable

[coarse scaffold]

i'm probably blind

[wind pulsar]

personally I don't like cloud shadows that much

I don't like covering my mountain view with shadows

[coarse scaffold]

why are your clouds not visible

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i dont know

i just copied some files from defined pbr

[inland meteor]

Could be because the clouds are super far

It is a superflat world

If you look closely they're even blocking the sun a bit

[coarse scaffold]

they still render for me

[inland meteor]

They're rendering there too

[cold geode]

Im back :DD

[coarse scaffold]

no like they look white

not blue

[inland meteor]

Render distance?

[coarse scaffold]

idk tbh

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it was 8

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mine is set to 12

[inland meteor]

There ya go

Lynn's fog was closer

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this is at 8 chunk y level 70

this is at 12 chunk ylevel -60

this is at 24 chunk

also i really like that minecraft bedrock has huge render distance without stressing the hardware

i lost like 3 fps

still it is from 16 to 13 :/

[cold geode]

i wonder if i will be able to run these shaders anytime soon though

Bedrock really needs an option to choose to run either dx12 or dx11

[coarse scaffold]

Yes

[vale charm]

How do I make my Minecraft run dx12?

[cold geode]

that's what. I have the same thought too 🤔

[inland meteor]

I don't know what in my situation changed

I'm Intel gang too

[coarse scaffold]

this looks cool and imo it would look even better if we had the mirror effect

[humble oxide]

What I have noticed is that this pipeline uses some sort Lumen-type feature that is seen on DX12. If they want to support DX11, they can just make it not use this Lumen-type feature

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this may be why it struggles at 128 vram

[humble oxide]

currently they use lux to messure light intesity. (Lux or lx is a lumen thing)

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caught my boy taa

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is there any other way except lumen

[humble oxide]

Most games use other shader methods with DX11, so yea. They just gotta make this work for DX11 for a toggle.

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i just disable taa or upscaling and i lost 2 or 3 fps but the game felt more smooth

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it is nice that we have other options

it has an error without taa

i think we have a bug here

[limpid rune]

This issue should be possible to mostly fix btw so TAAU will likely be improved at some point to not have ghosting to such extend

[autumn kite]

but the afterimages are amazing 😔

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yes i hope that happen in the next beta

it be bad if mojang took a break

[inland meteor]

TAA ghosting = free motion blur

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I hate motion blur

It make me dizzy when I see it

[coarse scaffold]

you haven’t seen the ghosting in the title screen yet

it looks bad

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You mean the panorama screen right

[coarse scaffold]

Yes

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I hate it but I've gotten used to it

Also Mojang is now sunsetting android 7

It all make sense now

Because android 9 = opengl es 3 = shaders

[coarse scaffold]

Minecraft without deferred looks weird for me now

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Once you have tasted the pleasure you won't be able to live without it.

It is nice as we can take a break from classic Minecraft

And when we don't want to use shaders we can live the feeling of the classic Minecraft again

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Can you confirm a bug for me please

[coarse scaffold]

sure!

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This one

Without taa or upscaling there will be a visual bug

[inland meteor]

I confirm

This does happen

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Should I make a bug report

[inland meteor]

Sure

Find if there's a similar one first though

[coarse scaffold]

i took a screenshot and the preview crashed lol

time to take a break ig

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Ok

[vestal scarab]

anyone got a pbr texture pack for testing?

[inland meteor]

#1136688871049003048 message

[vestal scarab]

they changes the way create new world screen comes up

previously it fell from the top but now the sidebar actually is fixed and the content on the right sides lodes in

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https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-174009

[wispy zenith]

I hope we gonna get SSR with Render Dragon

[cold solar]

server side rendering?

[coarse scaffold]

Oh god no

If they add they add that, servers will go on fire lol

[inland meteor]

for the unaware, ssr actually means screen space reflections

[scarlet mauve]

I recommend you to add "Steps to Reproduce" so that Kayla and the team can confirm the bugreport even more quickly. Adding an example pack would make confirming the bugreport go quicker.

I can help you out with the wording here and there if needed

[scarlet mauve]

Same goes for this one 😁

[wispy zenith]

Screen Space Reflection

[dusty grove]

aww man, I can't stress test my phone with shaders because it has a mali gpu

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done

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done as well

[cold geode]

rip me and my pride cape. I am one of those people who won't be able to get one. :/

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why cant you get it?

[cold geode]

coz it's not there

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oh

[cold geode]

Plus it's restricted to some regions only

dang it microsoft

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oh that make sense

[cold geode]

how many capes are there by now for bedrock?

Like 4 i suppose.

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yeah

[cold geode]

Golden creeper, pan cape, pride cape and the cape which is available for people who got bedrock and java before the summer offer

oh wait the mojang cape as well but not accessible lol

Also i think i found a way temporarily for running shaders on PC

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how?

[bold badge]

how? i need answers

[cold geode]

Better RenderDragon :D

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oh

does it use dx 12

[cold geode]

Gonna see. Loading up

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better render dragon on preview or stable

[cold geode]

Preview ofc

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ok

[cold geode]

YES :DD

[bold badge]

lets gooo

[cold geode]

I knew this would work

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can you give me the link for better render dragon

[cold geode]

Now it's the real time test.

[cold geode]

Search it on google. You will get the github page

Or yk what. Wait a sec

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ok

[cold geode]

https://github.com/ddf8196/BetterRenderDragon

Use a translator for the page.

[bold badge]

ok

[cold geode]

For the moment im gonna test it without turning on deferred rendering on better rd

Since preview already has it.

I'm gonna enable the option load shaders from resource pack though.

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so my understanding is that better render dragon doesn't replace files or dll like better rtx

[cold geode]

it's actually an injector thing

This will change minecraft to use directx12 :D

The main reason i installed is for this.

and oh wow a solid 100+ fps

Definitely a much better improvement

Shaders loaded let's go :D

[bold badge]

are you having 100 fps with shaders

[cold geode]

no

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oh

[cold geode]

Getting like 30 now lol

[bold badge]

30 is good

mine is 14

[cold geode]

It's because it's on medium

Imma try other options

okay low seems to be very similar medium because I'm not able to notice much changes.

Still on 30fps though

[bold badge]

yes

me too changing settings dont seem to have much impact

@coral hornet

[cold geode]

If shaders on bedrock keeps getting better. Im staying on bedrock.

No more java lol

[bold badge]

of course

shaders on java are really heavy

[cold geode]

and i mean I'm gonna stop playing java.

It's not that I'm just a java player.

I am a player of both versions.

[bold badge]

i was a java player then came 1.17

[cold geode]

hm.

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i jumped to the bedrock

the opengl 3.1 requirement

[cold geode]

20 fps on poggy's shader. Any difference to madlad one?

[bold badge]

my laptop was really old

[cold geode]

The defined pbr

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for me it is the same

[cold geode]

I should try defined pbr then

I liked that glowy stuff :D

Even poggy's shader has glowing ores which is good

[bold badge]

does sea lanterns give off light

[cold geode]

wait

[cold geode]

Yeah kinda

On poggy's shader

It gives light but very dim

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only like tis for me

[cold geode]

Lemme see by changing options

no difference lol

[bold badge]

the light ain't doing it's job

can we change that?

[inland meteor]

sea lanterns and other full block lights are only using ambient block light

however ambient block light is very weak and has a bad falloff

[bold badge]

how can we change it?

do i have to add it in global

[cold geode]

Oh yeah lanterns work :o

Just seen it

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laterns work it seems that it is hardcoded

[cold geode]

Wait. Glowstone

Nope

Only lanterns it seems to be

[cold geode]

This is just one pack though. I gotta check other

The defined pbr

[inland meteor]

We can't currently change the intensity of block light via resource packs. the json file deferred_renderer.json is responsible for block and sky light intensity

in the materials folder

[bold badge]

so they gotta make it data driven to make it work for 3rd parties

[inland meteor]

You should play around with it and see if you can make it look better

[bold badge]

eyes groan in pain but my heart feels complete

in global .json in lighting folder

can we specify the block

[bold badge]

"The Mines" Coming To The Cineamas 2024

[coarse scaffold]

don't mind me, just watching world features being placed

[bold badge]

is that the feauture command

[coarse scaffold]

nope

the world is generating features slowly for some reason

[bold badge]

oh

are you in preview

[coarse scaffold]

Yep

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you said you broke the preview right

[coarse scaffold]

well it crashed several times when i was playing with deferred

but that shouldn't effect world generation

[bold badge]

crashed so hard preview ain't working

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do you know why this happen in deferred

look like the wither storm lol

[coarse scaffold]

Nope

I tried modifying the atmosphere.json file and I accidentally made the sky completely black, twice

[bold badge]

i think this has nothing to do with global but the the moon blending with the sun

[coarse scaffold]

idk if we can change that but if we can't they need to allow us to change it

[bold badge]

yeah

[coarse scaffold]

are you underwater?

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yes

[coarse scaffold]

hmm

interesting

[bold badge]

i used defined pbr textures

[coral hornet]

hello?

[coarse scaffold]

hi

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yo bro have you fixed dx12

[coral hornet]

no i dont really care much anymore

i am shader heart broken

[bold badge]

i have a fix

[coral hornet]

👀

[bold badge]

you need to download better render dragon

https://github.com/ddf8196/BetterRenderDragon/releases/tag/v1.3.4

[coral hornet]

oh i will look at that thank you

[bold badge]

instructions https://github.com/ddf8196/BetterRenderDragon/blob/main/README_US.md

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night vision

normal vs shaders

[coarse scaffold]

night vision doesn't change anything lol

[bold badge]

water is clear already so

[coarse scaffold]

no i mean outside of the water

it still looks the same for me

[bold badge]

you mean the color

[coarse scaffold]

not the color, the night vision effect doesn't allow you to see in the dark in deferred

[bold badge]

also when under water pbr freaks out

[bold badge]

so it is a bug then or mojang forgot about it

[coarse scaffold]

it's definitely a bug

[bold badge]

let me know if that works

[cold geode]

I experienced the same bug lol

[coral hornet]

huh, Vvhy it require RTX pack?

i dont have one xd

[bold badge]

wait

have you downloaded better render dragon

[coral hornet]

ya

they saying RTX pack is needed

[bold badge]

oh wait

no it doesn't

can you launch the preview from better dragon

[coral hornet]

oh its VVorking but like on 19 FPS

[bold badge]

see if dx12 is used

[coral hornet]

ya it is

but super slovv

[bold badge]

19 thats good mine is 15

:/

[coral hornet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

thank you

but not for me anyvvay i guess

[bold badge]

np thanks nick mc

he discoverd this

[coral hornet]

cool

at least i see reason vvhy they don't allovved me to do that xd

[bold badge]

lol

[cold geode]

I think running it once or twice would be enough

Because i accidentally opened minecraft without running any better rd files and minecraft is showing up with dx12

[bold badge]

i think better render dragone changed some shit and changed normal minecraft

[cold geode]

cmd opens up automatically and makes minecraft to use dx12

[bold badge]

really nice

[cold geode]

yes.

So you won't need to access files to open mc again

I'm now actually experimenting shaders with texture packs to see how it looks 👀

[bold badge]

if you have igpu the performance would be crap

[cold geode]

no. I mean not high end packs.

I meant about packs like bare bones or faithful 👀

[bold badge]

oh

[cold geode]

Trailer looks for low end devices. Can you just imagine that?

[bold badge]

thats true

[cold geode]

I mean it's already possible but not for low end devices.

[bold badge]

project initiated

[cold geode]

RTX + Bare bones for bedrock or 3rd party shaders with bare bones on java makes it whole alot possible.

but now we won't need rtx for bedrock lol

[bold badge]

yes finally also rtx on bedrock suck

[cold geode]

TBone Rtx pack + Bare Bones Texture Pack

also yes, i built that house by myself (no tutorials used) to showcase this (a builder is hidden in me as well)

[storm mural]

by jove

[bold badge]

very nice

not perfect but very nice

[cold geode]

pov: poggy's shader + bare bones is definitely better than this

[humble oxide]

bare bones with PBR would be cool

[cold geode]

i have combined and seen it. It's whole alot better actually :D

However battery ran out of my laptop so no screenshot lol

[storm mural]

i thought that was poggys shader

is it 'poggys' or 'poggies'

[cold geode]

It's @humble oxide's shader :D

[storm mural]

why do it say

[cold geode]

https://mcpedl.com/t-bone-rtx-pbr-total-conversion/

Although poggy's shader looks a little better with lighting blocks though.

[storm mural]

word

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👀

[cold geode]

ah yes that too. Try combining bare bones or trailers vision pack

[bold badge]

how w you get glowing eyes

[humble oxide]

Entity PBR

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oh

you just have to add texture set?

[humble oxide]

Works the same as for blocks

[bold badge]

thanks

also is it okay if i used your global.json in my pack

i would like to change the atomospherics but not the global

[humble oxide]

I focus on lighting. I find lighting to be more important than anything else

Getting the right lighting is really hard

[bold badge]

yeah we need to, this is the new stuff and i am learning bit by bit

[bold badge]

also do you know how to fix this

this has been bothering me

[humble oxide]

There's no fix from what I found

I tried everything

[bold badge]

oh really but thanks tho

[coarse scaffold]

looks nice!

[severe finch]

Hey guys

My game just keeps crashing when I try to enable Deferred technical preview

[twilit egret]

are you on a phone?

[severe finch]

Yea

[inland meteor]

What's the GPU

[severe finch]

Ram?

[coarse scaffold]

GPU not Ram

[severe finch]

Wait I forgot what GPU meant lol

[coarse scaffold]

Graphical Processing Unit

[inland meteor]

Can you screenshot the preview text at the top of the game screen

[severe finch]

Its a Helio G35 octacore

[bold badge]

thats why

[severe finch]

I just switched to the full release

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preview only work on snapdragon for now

[severe finch]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[coarse scaffold]

The deferred renderer crashes the game if you have a Mali GPU

[severe finch]

My phone that had Snapdragon broke 7 months ago

[severe finch]

Mali? You Filipino?

[coarse scaffold]

No

[severe finch]

Ohh what does Mali GPU?

Mean

[coarse scaffold]

Mali is the name of the GPU

[pliant crag]

Its not their fault 😭

[twilit egret]

smh mojang

shouldve had pride cape in saudi arabia

[bold badge]

nah ayo chill out

[wind pulsar]

won't work for now, all mali-gpu does not work, only snapdragon for now.

[coarse scaffold]

you can see it here

[wind pulsar]

SOC's that has mali-gpu are the following - samsung soc thing I forgot their name now, meditek soc's

and huawei soc's

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samsung is called exyons

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it is called kirin

[wind pulsar]

exyons and kirin is uh, not good I might say

[next zealot]

what does mali supoort

anything works on mali ?

[wind pulsar]

mali is the name of mobile gpu

[next zealot]

ik

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exynos is trash and inefficient and kirin is questionable nowadays

[wind pulsar]

only benefit of exynos is more security on your samsung phone and able to unlock bootloader.

[next zealot]

i wanted to ask if anything in mali works or not

[bold badge]

nothing works yet

[wind pulsar]

in deferred shader?

if so no, it does not work atm

it just crashes your game right away after toggling deferred on.

[next zealot]

so no point updating

[wind pulsar]

there'll probably be mali support soon in next update I guess

[next zealot]

hm

they should have mali first ig its most common no?

[wind pulsar]

probably not common for every mojang employees who uses android

you don't really find mali-gpu often on flagship Android phones.

[next zealot]

😦

[wind pulsar]

unless they're using google pixel with tensor or samsung exyons ( probably rare nowadays though )

[inland meteor]

It seems to depend on the brightness of the moon

[humble oxide]

@coarse scaffold and I have put together, what we believe are the current System Requirements for deferred renderer.
https://twitter.com/XxPoggyisLitxX/status/1688186238149263360

XxPoggyisLitxX (@XxPoggyisLitxX)

Myself and @xKingDarkYT did some tests on System Requirements to run the new Deferred Render, and these were our results. We used our own systems and specs from @Bedrock_AddOns. Take this with a grain of salt. Wait for Mojang to release official system requirements.

Twitter · Aug 6, 2023, 1:52 PM

"Take this with a grain of salt. Wait for Mojang to release official system requirements."

[coral hornet]

cool thx

looks like i have Mali GPU

on my phone

[coarse scaffold]

sad :<

[coral hornet]

but i was able to run in on my PC up to 18 FPS

🤓

NikMC helps me alot

[coarse scaffold]

not bad

[coarse scaffold]

LOL

[coral hornet]

not very playble

[coarse scaffold]

yeah

[coral hornet]

but cool i really love it so much actually

[coarse scaffold]

same!

[coral hornet]

i sometimes just could take some pictures

but its in preview so i have that things on screen

xd

why General Updates has only 4x times more then this channel xd

[coarse scaffold]

probably because we talk in it about different Minecraft topics and sometimes Minecraft updates

[coral hornet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

xd

[cold geode]

ofc.

[cold geode]

Pleasure to help @coral hornet 🤓

[night linden]

🥴

more bugs than rtx 😂 . jes ikn its the first preview

[bold badge]

we up

[night linden]

110 fov😅

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we wide

[night linden]

wide mode

[bold badge]

i feel faster when i use 110 fov

i want it to be wider if possible

[night linden]

😆

wideman

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pbr is amazing

the hell

[night linden]

its looks like rtx

[bold badge]

it does

truly a miracle

[coarse scaffold]

it does because iirc both of them use PBR

[night linden]

but only rtx supports mirror effect and only deffered suports entity pbr

[bold badge]

why is there no entity pbr documentation

i can't find it

[night linden]

it work like block pbr

[coarse scaffold]

If the deferred renderer gets the mirror effect it will basically become the same as RTX

[night linden]

jes

[bold badge]

but i am stupid so my 3 brain cell need to to work overtime tonight

[night linden]

😎

[coarse scaffold]

oof

[bold badge]

🥲

[coarse scaffold]

Items PBR when?

lol

[bold badge]

light reflections seems to work

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you mean when it is held in hand

[coarse scaffold]

we need the mirror effect

[coarse scaffold]

Yes

[night linden]

I hope these water effects are still coming

[bold badge]

if item pbr works we would have add each texture set ☠️

[coarse scaffold]

same!

[bold badge]

kingdark do you have some exp with pbr

[cold geode]

Well guess what people. I have done it 💀

[bold badge]

FBI! Open UP!

[coarse scaffold]

Yes?

[bold badge]

when you have roughness and metalness and emisiveness map you need to combine them right?

[coarse scaffold]

What are you trying to achieve?

[night linden]

And for that you need Photoshop . Because you can't do that in GIMP, but Photoshop is expensive

[bold badge]

i have some idea😈

[bold badge]

makine mer enderman.png

[cold geode]

context: i didn't get pride cape.

so i done a thing to get it.

[bold badge]

skin pack?

[cold geode]

no

Guess.

[coarse scaffold]

You wanna make his eyes glow?

[bold badge]

yes sir

[coarse scaffold]

make his eyes green and the rest of the texture file completely black

[cold geode]

Lmao what's that logic.

[bold badge]

and just add the texture set and that it?

[night linden]

I didt want the pride cape. I can give you mine

[coarse scaffold]

Yeah

[coarse scaffold]

You can't lol

[cold geode]

You can't lol. It's account and region specific.

[night linden]

ikn

it was a joke

[bold badge]

what about the blank state or alpha channel do i need to make it black?

[cold geode]

I think @coarse scaffold knows from the start that i didn't get a pride cape.

[coarse scaffold]

Yes

[coarse scaffold]

Yeah :<

[bold badge]

thanks mate

[cold geode]

all i just did was use vpn and change the server to U.S

Not only cape but other pride items popped up as well. lol

[night linden]

👀

[coarse scaffold]

after claiming them and disabling the vpn do they disappear from owned items?

[cold geode]

no.

:)

[night linden]

hacking completed

[coarse scaffold]

oof

[cold geode]

Because since you claim it. You basically own it right? So i don't think it won't go away.

[cold geode]

that's just my logical understanding.

[coarse scaffold]

I think you will not be able to use them but I think they won’t disappear if you equip them

[cold geode]

They didn't :D

[coarse scaffold]

you should fill the middle of the eyes too

[coarse scaffold]

oh cool

[bold badge]

i did sir

[cold geode]

Also fully usable.

:D

[cold geode]

Also what's this logic? lol

wouldn't endermen texture get messed up?

[bold badge]

no

[coarse scaffold]

like this

[coarse scaffold]

nope

[bold badge]

it is just like an overlay to expalain the game

where it should glow or not

[cold geode]

oh. :o

[bold badge]

ayo my 4th brain cell just activated

[cold geode]

So basically added an overlay of black?

and then what?

[bold badge]

black mean dont use black from overlay but use original texture

green is glow or emisiveness when you put green the texture tells the game to glow where the green is which is the eyes

[cold geode]

:D

[bold badge]

@coarse scaffold

[coarse scaffold]

try

[cold geode]

Right. Dinner time.

See ya

[coarse scaffold]

look at the textureset file name

endermea

[bold badge]

lol wait

thanks you mate

[coral hornet]

i think there should be topic for deffered rendering

[coarse scaffold]

Yeah

[night linden]

When will it be fixed that grass sides did not use the grass colormap

[night linden]

true

[coarse scaffold]

#1067869590400544869 maybe

[bold badge]

no it should not be

[inland meteor]

Since the other components are black, does this mean the enderman is also glossy?

[coarse scaffold]

it shouldn’t look glossy afaik

[inland meteor]

so 0 in the blue channel is completely rough?

[bold badge]

i think there should be deferred channle but when shader come to stable version it should be moved to resource pack

how to summon a mob without ai so i can stop it form teleporting?

[coarse scaffold]

You can’t

[night linden]

the channel should also include rtx

[bold badge]

No:/

[bold badge]

we don't talking about hime anymore

[coarse scaffold]

You have to remove it’s behaviors using an add-on

[bold badge]

jokes aside it should be included ofcourse

[coarse scaffold]

for me the enderman doesn’t look glossy at all

[night linden]

shader vs RTX

[bold badge]

no it does not look glossy

i can confirm

[bold badge]

who in the hell put pbr on slime block they are meant to be smooth

i mean roughness

ghosting is real ong

[coarse scaffold]

Ghosts are real

[bold badge]

they are real that's why you can't see them

[coarse scaffold]

:O

[inland meteor]

Bloom without the threshold looks dreamy

[limpid rune]

Already modifying deferred?

[coarse scaffold]

Hey Si, are you currently in a dream?

[night linden]

With RTX, the glue still looks smooth. And I used an RTX pack

[inland meteor]

I don't think so?

[bold badge]

we aint got item pbr or metalness and roughness yet but we got light reflections

[inland meteor]

Stop making me question reality!

[coarse scaffold]

pfft

[bold badge]

we are in a simulation