World Generation General

[wooden gate]

I think so
it's what the error message is telling me to do

but when I open the content log history, it's blank

[upbeat barn]

You can click on that toast to open the log

[wooden gate]

oh lol
I'm slow

trees don't generate anymore now

the confusing part is, it's all trees, not just the ones I altered
and it's not even all features, it's just trees

[velvet spade]

Using a vanilla features in an addon will deactivate it.

[molten star]

in the last months world gen had a bug on blocks that didn't make them go on the next state, unless you had to make them without "block.json>events" or "block.json>states" ....does anyone know if its already fix that bug...?

👉 👈

[potent vapor]

How can I fix this? The trees are generating in the air

[dawn flower]

SET IT TO Q.HEIGHTMAP

[leaden furnace]

Or use constraint: grounded in your feature(I assume your trees are structure and you're using structure_template_feature ?)

[sly forge]

set ur y value to q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz)

in feature rules

[wooden gate]

oh, how do I fix it?

[velvet spade]

Delete the vanilla features file. You can make it spawn vanilla trees with structures or recreate the vanilla trees with the tree feature just make it as you would any tree feature it's just anything hard coded it won't add

[wooden gate]

Oh wait I think I'm misunderstanding something here, since I don't have any "vanilla features" file. Do you think something else could be causing it?

(everything in the "feature rules" file is default)

actually nvm I'll move this to a unique thread as to not spam general

[dull timber]

Is it possible to make a feature rule that generates a structure beside a player and only one structure like the end portal

[brave badger]

is it possible to just disable every generation biomes/feature etc without experimental

like a void world

[exotic furnace]

Can someone help me in my post? Please

[velvet spade]

i guess biomes can be edited now. just havent had success creating my own yet

[compact crescent]

are features and feature rules experimental?

[upbeat barn]

No

[compact crescent]

so it's just biome files?

and what's about vanilla biomes? are they experimental?

[silk spire]

I was told this wasn’t possible…

[exotic furnace]

Guys, can someone help me with features? I have post named "I'm clueless"... I rly don't know why this is happening

[sly forge]

it’s technically not superflat

however its doable with worldgen, and its extremely easy to do

[silk spire]

I’ve been trying to make “custom superflat survival” for ages now

Keeping the grind but making the game beatable

And unlocking usually unobtainable blocks via different more grindy ways

[unborn axle]

I need to generate a structure feature on the both river floor and the surface. How can I achieve this with the feature rule?

[velvet spade]

anyone have luck using the single block feature to place like a hanging plant or a random block on a tree ? like what they did with the jungle tree or birch with the bee nest

im not having any luck replicating it

[upbeat barn]

Thats possible. Youll need to use a combo of a few features.

[velvet spade]

I've been trying to use the search feature with the single block but when I define what the single block can attach too it stops working. No matter what I put

[sly forge]

what exactly are you trying to do?

are you trying to do something with trees?

[velvet spade]

Trying to get another block to attach to trees to give the tree more of a odd shape or replicate the nether trees using the shroomlight

[lavish falcon]

Does anyone know how I can get structures to generate on superflat worlds?

[sly forge]

there’s a component for that in the tree features

[leaden furnace]

Not possible afaik, your only bet is to convert a java flat world into a bedrock one (it's not bug free)

[sly forge]

ohhh there’s another way

it wont be without bugs but

there’s another way

[leaden furnace]

Really? Following 🙂 I tried to find a way myself not even a week ago and ended converting a java world

[sly forge]

...

BRUH

custom worldgen can do this

due to certain issues ur kinda stuck with having the flat terrain up at y 80 but

this is very much possible

however you cant currently make custom villages with jigsaw, and you cant modify vanilla ones either, so youll have to find a generator thats capable of this

[velvet spade]

Yeah but decorations only work with certain canopy or trunks. And I can't mix canopy types so I opted for a single block scatter for tree decorations but I'm not getting any luck

[sly forge]

theres a fruit component

thats what allows for beehives, cocoa beans, and shroomlights

[upbeat barn]

Beehives actually use search feature I thought?

[sly forge]

iirc no

pretty sure i saw something in the schema mentioning it was the fruit component

could be wrong tho

[velvet spade]

They do. They use a search aggregate and scatter. Not all for the same feature

[lavish falcon]

Unfortunately for me I do not have Java Edition

[cold moss]

How to generate a biome like sunflowers, but with pink tulips or dandelion flowers

How do I make an addon like this?
Only the BHR and RSR folders are needed, plus the Biomes folder and its manifest.json in each folder,BHR and RSR,in the biomes folder the json the biome that will be generated?

[sly forge]

custom biomes currently don’t work

[cold moss]

Hello, one question, they don't work in the latest versions, that is, 1.21?

[sly forge]

they don’t work at all in any version past 1.18.0

they haven’t been reimplemented just yet

[oak cipher]

if its just generating flowers, you can use features.

[sly forge]

theyre generating a custom biome

[cold moss]

Creating a mod would work? Or is it the same, you can't work with biomes

[velvet spade]

You can edit existing biomes

[sly forge]

this isnt the server for modding talk

[broken salmon]

how do you set block states in features? I have this right now

"places_block": {
        "name": "runecraft:visadyme_plant",
            "states": {
                "runecraft:growth_stage": "math.random_integer(1, 3);"
            }
      },

and it looks like it should work, but everything is getting defaulted to the initial value.

[upbeat barn]

It might not accept molang?

[broken salmon]

maybe it should

I had this working at some point I'm pretty sure

then I deleted everything

Although I may have been messing around with it via scripting and detecting on generation to randomize it

[upbeat barn]

You could just use the weighted random feature i guess?

[broken salmon]

man I hate world generation

my features need features

[dark bison]

i don't think using random_integer is a good idea
unless random_integer is based on seed?

[upbeat barn]

Why?

[sly forge]

it is

but

q.noise is seed-locked which is annoying

[velvet spade]

I also tried this with logs rotation for a tree decoration I had to make a dummy block in that rotation to place it

[broken salmon]

wouldn't matter for me, I'm using to randomly generate my plants in different growth states

[velvet spade]

Ur better off using the growing plant feature and a search feature to place your plant as a feature on the feature if u get it

Itl grow in world gen that way too.

I used a search feature to place my pink shroomlight on fungus it works pretty well. It's a bit finicky though

[upbeat barn]

No?

Honestly @broken salmon , your best move is to use weighted random feature and place the single block feature with the different states.

[velvet spade]

Yeah that's for vines nvm. But I've tried doing the same with my hanging plants and it does nothing. If I try to add states it tells him it's invalid

[broken salmon]

so many files just for a single plant 😔

all that D:

[upbeat barn]

What if you just tried math.random(0,3)? no semicolons, no random_integer?

[velvet spade]

Features are kinda outdated tbh. They need an overhaul. I was messing around with tree features last night and I changed the number of branches range to like 1 min and 3 max and it crashed my game lmao

[upbeat barn]

I wouldn't say they're outdated.

They became stable like last year.

[velvet spade]

You should see mine. I have like 4 features for a biome and it's like 12 files

[upbeat barn]

I'm failing to see how that is "outdated"?

[broken salmon]

It can't be outdated if that's how they designed it, there's nothing to compare it to

[velvet spade]

Rotations for decorations doesn't work. Theres missing capabilites for features while the same features are in the game, Adding states to blocks in features doesn't work. They crash the game using them normally. Ik they've been stable for addons but they've been using features for a while now before letting us use them. Also there's missing files in the feature and feature rules.

[upbeat barn]

Rotations should work if you use the block traits.

Adding states to blocks in features doesn't work
What?

Missing files doesn't mean outdated. By that definition blocks are completely outdated.

[lyric olive]

my first message here

anyways

#1302679615533482026

[velvet spade]

I've tried several times. Nothing has worked for states.

[upbeat barn]

Then you're doing it wrong I guess.

[velvet spade]

Probably. But I'm not getting errors in game which is weird

[broken salmon]

I thought something they recently did with world gen fixed the rotations

[velvet spade]

unless im missing something "minecraft:facing_direction" is a state right?

this is what i tried with my decoration. i used a log to add some weird pattern to the side of the tree

"trunk_block": "blushrooms:cwood_log",
"trunk_decoration": {
"decoration_chance": {
"numerator": 7,
"denominator": 10
},
"decoration_block": {
"name": "blushrooms:cwood_log",
"states": {
"minecraft:facing_direction": "up"
}
},
"num_steps": 2,
"step_direction": "up"
}
},

gives no errors in any editor i used but in game its always facing the cardinal directions

thats why i opted for a dummy block in the rotation i needed

left is trying to use the states for the block and the right is the dummy block

[upbeat barn]

What is a dummy block?

[lyric olive]

uh, how can i make it spawn the new ore more often when u go up, but less when u go down?

[upbeat barn]

Check the vanilla files.

[lyric olive]

where could i find them?

[upbeat barn]

Windowsapp folder or BDS.

[lyric olive]

I'm on mobile

[upbeat barn]

Then BDS.

[lyric olive]

link? if u have

[hushed knot]

Bedrock Dedicated Server

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/servers/server-software.html

Nov 3, 2024, 12:01 AM

[lyric olive]

uuh, this one?

idk fr

[upbeat barn]

No the official one at the TOP of the page.

[lyric olive]

should be this one?
dont rage im lost

i think i found it

[dark bison]

the point of seeds is to get the same generation every time
a small thing but i thing we should keep it in mind

[upbeat barn]

I somewhat disagree, loot for example.

The placement is also the same, only difference is sometimes it will be not grown vs fully grown. Variations are nice to have.

[dark bison]

isn't loot also seed based?
in vanilla

[upbeat barn]

It is now, but back then no.

And also depending on what add-on you make. 🙂 Kind of like Fortnite where chest spawns vary.

[dark bison]

it really depend on the use case
but for now we work with what we have

[upbeat barn]

?

You can still have randomized states not sure what you mean.

[dark bison]

can we make it seed based?
without any work around

[upbeat barn]

That's what weighted random feature is yeah? I'm confused what you're trying to say.

[velvet spade]

like a fake block? its a block that just has one state/rotation that drops the normal log block when broken. i cant get the states part to work it just shows as the first picture

[upbeat barn]

Does your block even rotate properly?

[velvet spade]

yeah it has all the normal rotations for facing direction

i mean unless theres a better way to do it idk

[upbeat barn]

Could you just send your feature/rule here so I can test it with my own custom block?

[dark bison]

i forgot that sorry
never worked with world gen

[velvet spade]

the random has 2 trees just delete the louro_tree

well i guess if your tree needs better branches you can use a tree feature to make them lmao

[upbeat barn]

What have you been using?

[velvet spade]

tree features and a search feature with aggregate

[upbeat barn]

🤷 Custom states work.

[velvet spade]

?.? htf i wasnt able to get it

[upbeat barn]

            "trunk_block": {
                "name": "custom_namespace:custom_block_perm",
                "states": {
                    "wiki:boolean_state_example": true
                }
            }

[velvet spade]

for the decoration?

[upbeat barn]

That says trunk_block.

[velvet spade]

right i was talking about the decoration for the trunk block

[upbeat barn]

Works as well.

[velvet spade]

hmm maybe it was the ""

yeah this is what i have and still the same rotation

"trunk_block": "blushrooms:cwood_log",
"trunk_decoration": {
"decoration_chance": {
"numerator": 7,
"denominator": 10
},
"decoration_block": {
"name": "blushrooms:cwood_log",
"states": {
"minecraft:facing_direction": "up"
}
},
"num_steps": 2,
"step_direction": "up"
}
},

[lyric olive]

uh, i found it but its kinda wrong

[velvet spade]

could it be that the state is connected with the down state having the same rotation?

[lyric olive]

{
  "format_version": "1.13.0",
  "minecraft:feature_rules": {
    "description": {
      "identifier": "minecraft:overworld_underground_diamond_ore_feature",
      "places_feature": "minecraft:diamond_ore_feature"
    },
    "conditions": {
      "placement_pass": "underground_pass",
      "minecraft:biome_filter": [
        {
          "any_of": [
            {
              "test": "has_biome_tag",
              "operator": "==",
              "value": "overworld"
            },
            {
              "test": "has_biome_tag",
              "operator": "==",
              "value": "overworld_generation"
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    "distribution": {
      "iterations": 1,
      "coordinate_eval_order": "zyx",
      "x": {
        "distribution": "uniform",
        "extent": [ 0, 16 ]
      },
      "y": {
        "distribution": "uniform",
        "extent": [ 0, 16 ]
      },
      "z": {
        "distribution": "uniform",
        "extent": [ 0, 16 ]
      }
    }
  }
}```it is wrong ig

[upbeat barn]

"'up'"

[velvet spade]

not really sure what you mean

yeah it doesnt matter what state i put its always in the cardinal

even used different decoration blocks

[upbeat barn]

" 'up' "

[velvet spade]

yeah what do you mean by up

ahh

[upbeat barn]

[lyric olive]

sooo,
my issue is still not resolved yet

[velvet spade]

well "'up'" is hard to tell

[upbeat barn]

You never specified your issue.

[velvet spade]

its your feature

not the rules

[lyric olive]

making my ore feature rules spawn the ore more often when u go higher than when u go lower

it spawn more at y 64, but less at y -16

thats all

[velvet spade]

wouldnt it be yxz?

[upbeat barn]

Right, did you check the vanilla files?

[velvet spade]

it d check the y first in that order

[lyric olive]

this is from the vanilla files ig

[upbeat barn]

Youre checking the wrong one.

[lyric olive]

ahh

[velvet spade]

do iron or copper

iron would be about what youd want since iron spawns more higher than lower now

[lyric olive]

the only problem is
i have no idea how to find them, im so lost in that link

[lyric olive]

emerald:

[upbeat barn]

Did you download the bds...

[velvet spade]

emerald too

[lyric olive]

this one?

[upbeat barn]

Yes.

[lyric olive]

the feature rules should be there right?

[velvet spade]

yep just download the latest one and itl have all that

biomes as well. you can change a few things in the biomes files thatl overwrite in world gen you just cant make a true custom biome yet

like changing the name to a custom name would just deactivate the biome file entirly

[lyric olive]

uh, theres like 4 of them so, which one should i download?

[velvet spade]

for pc/ mobile if theyre seperate

[upbeat barn]

What do you mean?

[lyric olive]

it says for windows, for Linux, for windows preview and for Linux preview

[velvet spade]

windows

[lyric olive]

[velvet spade]

its just a zip file

top left

[lyric olive]

thats what i downloaded

[velvet spade]

ok go to downloads and extract it to where ever you want to. you need a file explorer

[lyric olive]

right but, idk where can i find whatever im searching for

[upbeat barn]

Navigate to the 1.18 behaviour packs.

Or use a file explorer and search?

[velvet spade]

O.O

[lyric olive]

right.

there is it

{
  "format_version": "1.13.0",
  "minecraft:feature_rules": {
    "description": {
      "identifier": "minecraft:overworld_underground_emerald_ore_feature",
      "places_feature": "minecraft:emerald_ore_feature"
    },
    "conditions": {
      "placement_pass": "underground_pass",
      "minecraft:biome_filter": [
        {
          "any_of": [
            {
              "test": "has_biome_tag",
              "operator": "==",
              "value": "mountains"
            },
            {
              "test": "has_biome_tag",
              "operator": "==",
              "value": "extreme_hills"
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    "distribution": {
      "iterations": 100,
      "coordinate_eval_order": "zyx",
      "x": {
        "distribution": "uniform",
        "extent": [ 0, 16 ]
      },
      "y": {
        "distribution": "triangle",
        "extent": [ -16, 480 ]
      },
      "z": {
        "distribution": "uniform",
        "extent": [ 0, 16 ]
      }
    }
  }
}```

triangle^

the triangle distribution should spawn it more often when u go up, but less when u go down

my problem is solved ig

idk lemme try

[velvet spade]

this is the log file for the tree idk if its the same states as what youre using for the log rotation but idk what else to do beside keep using the dummy block cuz nothing i put is working its still the same rotation or not decoration at all

[upbeat barn]

Seems like block traits do not work but custom states do work.

In either case yo udon't need a dummy block, just a dummy state.

[velvet spade]

got ya

[sly forge]

thats normal for features especially when using molang

[lyric olive]

d u guys have any link of dynamic world things
||@upbeat barn || sorry for the ping but i need some help

[lyric olive]

welp, unfortunately i may not make my addon a marketplace exclusive, bec of the marketplace requirements

[sly forge]

keep an eye out, theyre changing in the future 👀

[lyric olive]

I'll use scripts for now

it is possible to generate ores using scripts

but i have no idea how

[sly forge]

no

thats

just

weird

and laggy

[lyric olive]

so what should i do?

what should i use

[sly forge]

subpacks

have a subpack with it enabled and one with it disabled

[lyric olive]

soo, the marketplace should accept it when it has subpacks?

i mean

should i use feature rules inside of that subpacks and the marketplace will accept it or what?

[lyric olive]

also im not trying to make it enabled or disabled, i just want to make them spawn in the world and it will be accepted by the marketplace

[sly forge]

actually...

...you would need a dynamic world

idk if dynamic worlds support subpacks or not

[lyric olive]

i dont need a subpacks

i just need a good way to spawn my ores

and a accepted way

[sly forge]

just dont have an option to disable them

[lyric olive]

why should i?

[sly forge]

you also need a LOT of content to qualify for a dynamic world

[lyric olive]

uh

[sly forge]

afaik dynamic worlds dont have subpacks

and using scripts to spawn ores might automatically disqualify you

[lyric olive]

forgot to mention, my addon is used custom chest UI, it will not be an addon

it will be a marketplace map

[sly forge]

or a dynamic world

dynamic worlds and maps have almost exactly the same restrictions

[lyric olive]

it will be a map so, custom ore generation is allowed there right?

[sly forge]

.

[lyric olive]

im too lost rn

[sly forge]

ore generation wont even work with a map

maps are fixed to a specific seed and structure, block-for-block

dynamic worlds are much different

as they function just like a vanilla world

[lyric olive]

it will be a dynamic world then

[sly forge]

its like an addon, but with high content requirements

[lyric olive]

dynamic worlds will have random seed things right?

[sly forge]

yes

[lyric olive]

yah it will be a dynamic world

so,

what is available there?

i mean

is the custom UI allowed or not? for a dynamic world

prob yes

[sly forge]

it should be

[lyric olive]

bec I've seen some worlds that are on the marketplace and they have a custom UI or generation

[upbeat barn]

I think it's best to ask your marketplace manager.

[lyric olive]

like craftee custom hearts, that addon or world or whatever it is has a custom UI and a random seed feature

[lyric olive]

i don't have any

for now

[sly forge]

he's pretty much in a similar state to me

cant apply yet

[lyric olive]

uh

[sly forge]

reason? there's a major bug that needs fixed, its supposedly large enough that applicants cant be reviewed

[lyric olive]

[upbeat barn]

Well 90% of the policies are nda so hence why I said.

[lyric olive]

should i go for WORK WITH OUR PUBLISHERS?

[sly forge]

i mean...ur kinda lucky that you dont need an entire team to complete ur project lol

my project does, and itll end up on the scale of a DLC 😅

[lyric olive]

its not that large tho, just over 400 new stuff

also i love coding everything by myself so i can get more knowledge, and a bit of challenging

[oak cipher]

400 ores??

[lyric olive]

soo, please tell me i can use ( features / feature rules ) on a dynamic world..

[lyric olive]

naah

[oak cipher]

oh lmao

I was gonna say

[lyric olive]

new machines armor tools weapons

[oak cipher]

quality and quantity are different things though

400 ores would be nuts

[lyric olive]

where should i put them

[oak cipher]

also ive seen your ore textures

really good

[lyric olive]

ty

[oak cipher]

no ai usage right?

[lyric olive]

400 ores be like:

[lyric olive]

some bad informations

[oak cipher]

?

[lyric olive]

like where can i find some of the new ores, at what Y level

[lyric olive]

just like so

[oak cipher]

lame

but I meant the textures

[sly forge]

you can

[lyric olive]

no, all by myself

[lyric olive]

[oak cipher]

good.

[sly forge]

how do you think Realism has structures lol

[lyric olive]

wait a moment

structures need to be done using a dynamic world?!

mojang literally broke my future structures and dungeons addon

[lyric olive]

i love making them by myself so i can get better at texturing

[sly forge]

yep

[oak cipher]

[sly forge]

add it to the dynamic world :p

[oak cipher]

right approach

[lyric olive]

that leaves me with one question

does the marketplace allow a nuclear reactor?

[sly forge]

uhh...

honestly...

no clue

its not a nuke so it should be fine but dont take my word for it

[lyric olive]

no its not a nuke

it will be when u explode it

I'll not mention that so yah

when u explode anything nearby the nuclear reactor base, rest in f*cking peace

[lyric olive]

uh, how can i make the ore generation spawn more ores down than up?

wait a moment

i think i know how

[velvet spade]

first one is the structure tree i made the second is the tree feature recreation of it

i think im on to something with this search feature lol

[sly forge]

im guessing you used the acacia tree base for this?

[velvet spade]

Cherry actually

[muted ether]

https://discord.gg/pW9jQuDF?event=1303443372677267547

[timid quest]

What values in a feature rule will allow me to ensure that my structure spawns at a rare rate

[velvet spade]

Numerator and denominator. Set numerator 1 and denom to like 100. Itl be rare enough

[timid quest]

Thank you sir

[pale elk]

is world gen (specifically generating custom ores, patches, etc) fixed?

[upbeat barn]

It was never broken?

[old minnow]

Why cant you make custom ones?

[sly forge]

really, REALLY bad bugs

[silk spire]

Can you force world gen to only generate 2D terrain? 1 block thick with the rest void

[sly forge]

not directly

but it is possible

[lavish falcon]

Sorry for the ping, but do you have a preset addon with this type of generation available?

[sly forge]

i have the entire pack, but be aware that its not as small as you might think

[sly forge]

#1304561293969330228

[lavish falcon]

Thank you!

[sly forge]

np

[undone lagoon]

#1067869232395735130 Revival is coming soon

i can feel it

we have bided our time long enough worldgenbros

[upbeat barn]

locks channel so it cant be revived. Gatekeeping! /s

[sly forge]

No! You can’t gatekeep me!!!

[molten star]

random states placement with 4 files in features its possible??

or i need to do a bunch of single features for every state?

[olive ridge]

what do they mean by this?

[upbeat barn]

Biome client files are no longer in one large json file. We can now control sky colpur and easier ambient soinds.

[olive ridge]

ah, sweet

do we have ambient particles?

I take it server biomes are still broken tho, right?

[upbeat barn]

No. Those were defined in server pre 1.17.

[oak cipher]

yes

[acoustic horizon]

Use Chunker to visualize, modify, and convert your worlds!
Download Chunker

[molten star]

it works? D:

[acoustic horizon]

It does

[molten star]

any limitations?

[acoustic horizon]

Depends on the usage you want to give it. I recommend giving it a shot

[sweet geyser]

Are structure files meant to look like this?

[oak cipher]

yes

you can use https://mcbe-essentials.github.io/structure-editor/ to edit it.

[sweet geyser]

Thanks a lot

[tiny idol]

How do I merge two or more structures into just one feature? Or otherwise? Because I need to generate a structure larger than 64x64, and the only thing I thought of is to merge them

[upbeat barn]

Maybe wait for jigsaws?

[tiny idol]

Hmmm, never thought about them, I'll wait

[timid quest]

Or if you're impatient like me, use scripts 🤣

[sly forge]

or try to figure out how my system works

lol

[muted ether]

@scenic kraken

Could be great to add this in biomes_client.json or other file.

You're in luck, actually. They've added these to client biome definitions recently!

[scenic kraken]

oh, didn't know

:D

[muted ether]

Sorry I didn't have post creation turned off. That's confusing.

[scenic kraken]

is that already stable? where i can see that

[upbeat barn]

Preview.

https://bedrock.dev/docs/beta/Client Biomes

[scenic kraken]

ty

[royal bison]

cave carver feature is working?

[dull timber]

Can someone help on how to generate a structure that is centered in the player when the structure generates it is always in the edge

[sly forge]

yes, but there might not be a point in trying to use it as a regular cave unless ur wanting it to be filled with something other than air

[sly forge]

offsets

[dull timber]

Yeah already figured it out

[ionic cloak]

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[sly forge]

cant

biomes cant be modified

use a biome thats not a mountain biome

[ionic cloak]

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[sly forge]

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[ionic cloak]

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[sly forge]

can anyone help me with search features? ive never used em before and i need to do something like this

[sly forge]

...anyone?

[old minnow]

feature nom nom

[velvet spade]

It's a range search feature basicly searches an area within the parameters set with xyz to look to place the feature specified by the feature can place on variable.

Like using it to look for a log to place cocoa beans on the y axis needs a side to place on and ect. I use it for my fungus to place the lights similar to the warped fungus trees

Ore you can also use it to place tree branches for a more random looking tree

Paired with a weighted random or a aggregate. I don't suggest doing both lol I did that and crashed it with every reload

@ionic cloak almost would be swamp. It's the most flat biome

[sly forge]

im currently trying to make custom river depth with the vanilla biomes for my custom flat generation project

[velvet spade]

I'm not super sure how rivers generate tbh.

I'm sure you could make make slices of a river and use an aggregate with the search for the feature to place. Dunno how well it would work

[sly forge]

ik how they generate

its just that i have to have rivers, lakes, and oceans deeper than 1 block

otherwise itll look strange

[velvet spade]

You could make columns of varying sizes with several search features replacing ground and attaching to water and also put a river bed or ocean bed block at the bottom in an aggregate or sequence

[sly forge]

looks unnatural

(also how are you getting vanilla features to generate? game doesnt let me)

[left stream]

What is the best way to spread vegetation, such as grass

[sly forge]

vegetation patch features

[junior orbit]

Hello! Having some issue with blocks destroying on placement, even with the feature rule, overriding the block component

so the survival rules work. But overridng it with 'false' does not work

[old minnow]

I'm currently using a scatter feature, but it seems to cut off bigger features at the chunk borders.. does anyone know how this could be fixed?

[sly forge]

this happens with vanilla stone blobs so irdk, you can try having the scatter feature generate in a pass before the larger features

[old minnow]

so, running certain features in different passes fixes it?

[sly forge]

not entirely sure cuz ore features are weird

[old minnow]

why are ore features weird?

[sly forge]

they dont seem to follow the rules

[old minnow]

what are the rules?

Could you be a bit more specific, this all seems very interesting and useful

[sly forge]

im just speaking of the generation passes

ore features seem to disregard these passes from my own testing and it’s honestly pretty weird

[old minnow]

Where are the jigsaw docs if I may ask?

[upbeat barn]

#1301216627185942571 message

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[old minnow]

Thank you!

[velvet spade]

Put a can place on as the farmland u want it to place on. Itl stop breaking

[vale cliff]

I made a dungeon how to add 1more room pls tell me

[sly forge]

same way you did for the other two

[vale cliff]

@sly forge i did but it's not working

[junior orbit]

damn. having the same issue.
when in hand. i can only place on farmland. which is good.
But in my feature rule, i would like it to place on grass.
But the feature rule is not overriding the block placement filter.
The feature rule is not placing on grass. it is being destroyed.
I added 'may_attach_to' but it is still being destroyed on the grass

Here is my simple block file again...
I am simply trying to override 'placement-filter' but its not working

[velvet spade]

For a feature id opt to use a fake block. Use the same file but add it to be placed on grass but invisible in the menues

Like duplicate the file name it something else obviously and just make the category none in the file.

[broken salmon]

any way to stop vines from generating on my plants?

guess I could just move the placement pass to not be on "surface_pass" ?

I'm also having problems with my plants generating way more commonly than I am intending, but it seems like any iteration value below 0.5 just makes stuff not generate

[leaden furnace]

Why wouldn't you just use a single block place feature? I have never faced this bug using it and iteration works just fine 🤔 I mean your block looks like just a custom flower, even if it's part of a higher level biome generation feature, you still can generate this specific block bugless

[broken salmon]

what are you saying

[velvet spade]

Update it to the newer format using the 1.21.40 format. The iterations will be under the distributions componant and use numerator and denominator. It's much easier to get the spawning right with that

[broken salmon]

where is this documentation? I just checked all over and couldn't find anything beyond the "distributions" section, which on bedrock.dev, is using format version 1.13.0 still

[dull timber]

Is it possible to delete a structure cause a I have a boss structure and after the boss dies I want to completely remove that structure, is it possible?

[upbeat barn]

The changelog mentioned it that it was moved under the dist object.

[leaden furnace]

What do you want to achieve 🤣 I have an addon with custom grass patches and custom blocks/flowers on top of it, working in a realm for month and never seen a vine generating on the sides

[broken salmon]

which placement pass is yours in?

[broken salmon]

Are you referring to this? it's in the 1.21.20 logs

[upbeat barn]

Yeah.

[broken salmon]

I don't think that has any affect on "iterations"

I need the iteration chance smaller than 0.5

[upbeat barn]

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[broken salmon]

features already had all of those, it's just now bundled into "distribution"

[upbeat barn]

Oh yeah thats what I meant. 😅 Thought you needed more info what distribution consisted of.

[dull timber]

Is this possible?

[leaden furnace]

surface_pass

[broken salmon]

okay so scatter_chance is what changes the odds of it generating

I thought that was for changing the odds of additional of a block generating

[broken salmon]

Do they generate in a jungle?

[upbeat barn]

Oh no...I can't even see how you interpreted that.

[broken salmon]

I can't interpret anything, world gen just looks like an absolute mess

features and feature rules both using iterations and scatter chance just makes everything bad

[leaden furnace]

Yes, they do, unless there is a new bug(let me check that) I have custom blocks in EVERY biomes, and never seen vines generating. Maybe it's a niche bug ? (I will test that, tp me in new jungle biomes to see what is going on)

('

I have made a flower addon to generate more than 100 new flowers in every existing biomes

[broken salmon]

I thought "iterations" was to say how many of a block can appear, so "iterations:" 3, means that there can be 3 max of a block that generates, and whenever that feature would generate, "scatter_chance" would be used to determine whether an additional block would generate, up to that iteration number

[leaden furnace]

Nope, if i remember it good(Smokey you are the man) The way to understand it is : iteration is how many times by chunk the feature will try to place the feature, and scatter chance is the chance to place this feature. Like so you have really precise way to place or NOT place feature

[broken salmon]

don't even tell me about math.random_integer

[leaden furnace]

Anyway , iteration is definitely by chunk, then more iterations , more of this blocks in 16x16 area, and if it is too much , lower wheter the iteration, that will make your block really rare, or find the right balance between iteration(attempts/chunk) and scatter chance

[broken salmon]

got it

I just need to figure out how to get vines to stop generating on the sides of my plants now and then I'm good

[upbeat barn]

Correct,
Scatter chance is the chance your feature gets placed per chunk.
Iterations is how many times the game will place your feature in said chunk.

[leaden furnace]

Regarding this, if it is only in jungle biomes that you find this unwated behavior , vines are generating literally everywhere ONLY in jungle biomes , even on not custom blocks

[upbeat barn]

Likely placement pass as previously said. A surefire was is to do sky pass.

[leaden furnace]

and trust me, I have made a jungle base 6 years ago with my wife and vines drove us mad 🤣

Just to get an idea how to generate a rare block/structure or whatever, take a look at this feature to understand the iteration/scatter_chance options
{ "format_version": "1.13.0", "minecraft:feature_rules": { "description": { "identifier": "aquila:frozen_house_feature_rule", "places_feature": "aquila:frozen_house_feature" }, "conditions": { "placement_pass": "first_pass", "minecraft:biome_filter": { "test": "has_biome_tag", "operator": "==", "value": "ice_plains" } }, "distribution": { "iterations": 1, "scatter_chance": 2, "x": { "distribution": "uniform", "extent": [ 0, 16 ] }, "y": "query.heightmap(variable.worldx, variable.worldz) + 0", "z": { "distribution": "uniform", "extent": [ 0, 16 ] } } } }

in this code iteration is how many times the game will try to generate this feature(in this case only once) and scatter_chance is evaluated out of 100(in this cas 2%, that is really low, and it is exactly what I wanted to achieve to generate a rare custom structure in frozen biomes, like an igloo)

[sly forge]

well thats part of ur problem

ur using iterations

you should be using scatter chance

[sly forge]

nope, i don’t think it’s possible unfortunately, no thanks to Mojang

nvm forget that i just read everything and it was already taken care of lmao

[velvet spade]

there isnt any as far as i know. i had to delete the componant to find out

[hard monolith]

Is it possible to generate jigsaw structures on the ocean surface? Whenever I select world_surface for heightmap projection, it just generates on the ocean floor. (https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-188721)

[sly forge]

dont use heightmap projection lol

[hard monolith]

It says it's required.

[sly forge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[summer iris]

ocean_floor

afaik word_surface is bugged a little.

[vale cliff]

@summer iris is your jigsaw works correctly pls tell mine spawns like this

[sly forge]

jigsaw still has a lot of issues rn

[fringe junco]

i have a crazy idea. is there a way to place features using the javascript scripting? (like feature.attemptPlace(x,y,z) or something)

[upbeat barn]

/place feature yeah.

[fringe junco]

CRAZY, okay thank you so much :)

[fringe junco]

I'm not seeing /placefeature on the wiki, it looks like it was taken out of beta

Oh wait I'm dumb

I can probably just load the structure

I need a way to "gate" features from generating behind a dynamic property

Or ANY player having a tag

This may be another thing where I just need to keep reading the wiki, but I feel I'm learning a lot about scripting, but not a way to apply that to feature rules

Here's the vision. The player does something- eats a food, or plants a tree, for example. This sets a dynamic property for the world enabling new flowers to grow in newly loaded chunks.

[sly forge]

its preview only and its behind a toggle

[sly forge]

script api cant interact with feature rules

[fringe junco]

alright! thank you. as an alternative then, is there a way to check against a tag being on any player?

like, in molang, is there a way to do a for-each for every player, and try to detect a player with a tag? because if so, i have a workaround.

[upbeat barn]

There is /place featurerule if I understand correctly. Though, upon further reading, it seems they want to detect new chunks which isn't possible.

[upbeat barn]

There used to...not anymore.

[fringe junco]

rip. i really needed this. i'll find a workaround, thank you

[fringe junco]

does get_nearby_entities no longer work? i found it on the docs

because it stands to reason it should work, so long as there's a way to either check against the iterated entity's tag or scoreboard

[copper blade]

Cool

i did something similar with script

[vale cliff]

@copper blade how

[copper blade]

Script api

[patent kindle]

back for the 2 week minecraft phase, was custom biomes finally fixed???

[upbeat barn]

No.

[left stream]

Should features be in the features folder or can they be in subfolders?

Like:
features/rock_stone_feature.json

features/rocks/stone_feature.json

[upbeat barn]

.yes

[left stream]

So they can be in subfolders?

So how do I refer to them in the feature rule?

[upbeat barn]

In your example:
namespace:folder/file

[left stream]

Tysm

[tired ridge]

How to create a badlands type mountain biome

Is there any way to create a biome with this badlands terrain generation? I really liked those mountains, and I would like to create a forest biome with that terrain generation.

I want to design a biome with that type of terrain generation, if someone could help me in this regard I would appreciate it.

[left stream]

Do sub-biomes work?

If I create a custom biome and set it to generate as a sub-biome plains muttation for example, will it generate correctly?

[upbeat barn]

No.

[tired ridge]

So how could I make a new biome with that kind of mountain generation?

Is there a way? Is it just impossible?

[upbeat barn]

Custom biomes are borken.

[tired ridge]

Too bad, I was already getting excited about creating a biome like this.

[left stream]

Is it possible to make the terrain smoother?

[sly forge]

no

thats never been a feature

[patent kindle]

anyone know a great tutorial on how to use the jigsaw blocks

unless it can be summed up in 3 sentences i can take that too

[upbeat barn]

https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1301216627185942571

Check pins.

[light kayak]

custom caves! yipee!!!

[velvet spade]

totally visible yeah

[patent kindle]

anyone know why my structure isnt generating anymore? used to work a few updates ago

"[FeatureRegistry][error]-My World | divine_steps | no valid version passed by the caller or found in the input"

        "format_version": "1.13.0",
        "minecraft:feature_rules": {
                "description": {
                        "identifier": "rel:divine_steps",
                        "places_feature": "rel:divine_steps"
                },
                
                "conditions": {
                        "placement_pass": "first_pass"
                },
                
                "distribution": {
                        "iterations": "
                            v.target_x = 0;
                            v.target_z = 0;
                            
                            v.chunk_x = math.mod(v.target_x, 16) + 16 * (v.target_x < 0);
                            v.chunk_z = math.mod(v.target_z, 16) + 16 * (v.target_z < 0);
                            
                            return
                                v.originx == 16 * math.floor(v.target_x / 16)
                                && v.originz == 16 * math.floor(v.target_z / 16)
                            ;
                        ",
                        
                        "x": "v.chunk_x",
                        "z": "v.chunk_z",
                        "y": "query.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz)"
                }
        }
}```

    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:structure_template_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "rel:divine_steps"
        },
        "structure_name": "mystructure:divine_steps",
        "adjustment_radius": 16,
        "facing_direction": "random",
        "constraints": {
            "block_intersection": {
                "block_allowlist": [
                    "minecraft:air", 
                    "minecraft:grass", 
                    "minecraft:dirt", 
                    "minecraft:stone", 
                    "minecraft:sand"
                ]
            }
        }
    }
}

what it did was generate my structure at 0 0 on the highest y value available

[patent kindle]

im just gonna pray its another bug and leave for another month and hopefully when i get back theres a fix

[still wing]

The issue lies in iterations. You can't have a string that's multiple lines in JSON.

The Molang has to be all in one line

"v.target_x = 0; v.target_z = 0; v.chunk_x = math.mod(v.target_x, 16) + 16 * (v.target_x < 0); v.chunk_z = math.mod(v.target_z, 16) + 16 * (v.target_z < 0); return (v.originx == 16 * math.floor(v.target_x / 16) && v.originz == 16 * math.floor(v.target_z / 16));"

[patent kindle]

that is actually so dumb because it worked for so long before my absence but im just happy to be done with it

[sly forge]

it only stopped working when 1.21.50 dropped

as such my addon doesn’t work, and i cant fix it cuz curseforge marks the new file as a dupe

[tiny idol]

Someone have vanilla biome files?

From 1.21.50

I found

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server/bedrock

[velvet spade]

That's it

It's in definitions

[muted ether]

They just changed this.

I think these are also the only filetypes they changed this for. 😦

[still wing]

I always had Molang in one line 😭

[tiny idol]

Why this dont working with structures?

[still wing]

Do you have a feature rule for it?

[tiny idol]

Yeah

[still wing]

Do you have content log enabled? If so, any errors?

[tiny idol]

I have, but dont thrown any errors

[still wing]

huh, could you show a definition of one of the features it places?

[sly forge]

yep

and its stupid

that change broke my addon, and because of how small it is i can’t upload the patch to curseforge cuz itll be marked as a dupe

its a stupid change made for a stupid reason

[compact crescent]

how to restrict a feature rule to place features only between certain x and z coordinates?

or rather prevent it from accessing a certain area, i want to prevent it from placing in the main end island, so i don't want it to be placed from -200, -200 to 200, 200.

[fluid talon]

I'm trying to design a tree that has a random chance to generate a flowering leaf block, much like the Azalea trees... Does anyone know how the vanilla azalea tree feature does this?

[upbeat barn]

https://bedrock.dev/docs/stable/Features#minecraft%3Aweighted_random_feature

Scroll down a bit to see Feature Schema and look at the tree feature.

[fluid talon]

thanks. so... random_spread_canopy is my answer.

[fluid talon]

interesting....

random_spread_canopy seems to work for the acacia_trunk style, but not the cherry_trunk style

[worldly igloo]

Do any1 know how I can make custom structures in bridge-core?

[silent aurora]

guys, is there a way to make a structure feature generate only above/under specific block?

[undone lagoon]

you can't make a custom biome but you can apply mesa mountain generation to vanilla biomes tho it can be a bit finicky

[sly forge]

no that doesnt work either

you cant modify generation of existing biomes

you can only modify whats in them, like what the top block is

[undone lagoon]

idk man it worked for me

[sly forge]

i dont remember that ever working

[sly forge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stable badger]

how do i check if addon need custom biomes toggle or not

and is there anyway to fix half structures generation? like there are few structure which generates half

[sly forge]

there is, but im not explaining it this late at night

also, most addons dont use that toggle

[stable badger]

feature rules dont need that toggle anymo or everything related structures are stable now except jigsaw

[delicate trench]

Have you found a way to use more than two blocks with mesa generation? Played with it a while ago but never figured that out

[undone lagoon]

from what i remember it wasnt something i got done

it has been abt a year since i tried tho

[tiny idol]

How do I generate only one structure per world?

With entities

I don't want to use it /structure load, why it causes lag, and I can't detect the height of the surface, nor the biome in an unloaded area far from the player

It is also not feasible to use tickingarea

Because I would have to guess where the correct biome would be to generate the structure

[sly forge]

why would you do that in an infinite world 💀

thats, like, the worst thing to do in a world that’s 60 million by 60 million blocks

i already know of an easy way to do this but its only feasible if the structure is meant to be underground

[sly forge]

also you forgot that /structure has a block_by_block feature that makes the structure’s generation lagless

[tiny idol]

Oh, you saved me

Thanks

[tiny idol]

Eh... the lag with block_by_block is higher

[sly forge]

it’s really not

are you adding a time to it?

[tiny idol]

How do I do this?

[sly forge]

hold on

[sly forge]

the command should look something like this:
structure load <structure_name> ~ ~ ~ 0_degrees none block_by_block <time>

where <structure_name> is the name and <time> is the time it takes to generate, in seconds

note: < and > are to be left out

[tiny idol]

Thanks

[sly forge]

np

[misty pivot]

Anyone know the resource pack that allows mobile users to export structures?

I looked at the wiki but it's gone on MCPEDL

Never mind, found it and still works.

[tired ridge]

And how could it be? I am very interested in knowing

[undone lagoon]

i just added the mesa's mountain component to another biome

it needs the custom biome toggle fyi

[short gyro]

I changed desert's terrain but I figured out it requires the custom biomes experiment, is there any way I can add, at least the bryce pillars, without the need of experimental features?

(without using features)

[acoustic horizon]

What is the right track for me to start on adding small structures into the world like 8x8 and 16x16 as much but mainly 8x8 kind of structures

Even 1x1 because I want to add new flowers

[leaden furnace]

I have added 120 new flowers biomes related in almost every biomes using single block feature and then weighted feature to decide what flower is more rare. Maybe there's a better and faster way, at least it works pretty well

[sly forge]

is it an actual structure, like a house or a rock?

also for flowers you dont use structures

[quartz junco]

Can you put negative values in extent?

[acoustic horizon]

Yes

[acoustic horizon]

How do a file for one flower looks like? May I see?

[sly forge]

yes

[acoustic horizon]

I want to spawn rocks and

and other buildings of similar size

[sly forge]

i mean its quite easy to do, and theres a lot of addons that add structures, so looking at the code should help

[acoustic horizon]

But MCPEDL is a scary place 😭

All because of the ads

[leaden furnace]

Single block feature to place a flower on the grass
{ "format_version": "1.13.0", "minecraft:single_block_feature": { "description": { "identifier": "aquila:anastasia_feature" }, "may_replace": [ "minecraft:air" ], "may_attach_to": { "bottom": ["minecraft:grass"] }, "places_block": "aquila:anastasia", "enforce_placement_rules": true, "enforce_survivability_rules": true } }
I haven't checked but I think it's grass_block now

[acoustic horizon]

Thanks!! I’ll check it out

[tiny idol]

Why does this happen?

[leaden furnace]

Don't use random rotation, there's a bug about it(stilll not fixed...) There is not many solutions. One is to create 4 version of the same tree and save it in a different rotation in a structure, and then using weighted feature to place the trees

The other one is complicated and I don't remember exactly, last year I saw a post about it

[tiny idol]

Weighted feature dont work for me, but I will try

Thanks

[tiny idol]

Work

[acoustic horizon]

What is the best way to generate a new ore?

[sly forge]

ore features

[acoustic horizon]

I'm trying this

but isn't working

[velvet spade]

Try updating it to 1.21.40

Might have changed things like they did with scatter

[sly forge]

change to 1.20.20

[undone lagoon]

no the toggle is required lol

[short gyro]

I was needing this, really needing this, thanks

[short gyro]

yeah, I'm building giant boulders and using features now

[scenic kraken]

looks impressive

[tiny idol]

Thanks

[leaden furnace]

How did you get the fluffy leaves tho? Looks really good 👍🏻

[harsh ledge]

Guys I have a mcstructure called simplehouse.mcstructure how can I spawn it for every village I want to spawn it near the village so the village have more House

[leaden furnace]

Not possible even with scripting

[undone junco]

how do i make my structure not be flat but also not be this weird?

with jigsaws

[sly forge]

cant

jigsaw is extremely buggy rn

i don’t advise using it rn

[unborn axle]

I got this feature rule, this random weighted feature, and the structure template feature along with 2 other basically identical ones. Yet, only the first ruined fort structure places and none of the other ones. Am I doing something wrong??

[undone junco]

do jigsaw have the option for terrain matching like in java?

"projection": "terrain_matching"

yes there is

[sly forge]

i don’t recommend doing anything with jigsaw

its extremely buggy atm

[undone junco]

mh i think it works fine the things i tried all worked well, the only buggy "that i think its my fault" is that it places structures on top of trees and places structures on top of each other

[sly forge]

theres other issues

[sly forge]

this right here is an actual jigsaw bug

theres also an issue where jigsaws sometimes double back on themselves or generate a structure with the wrong rotation, though that's hard to explain, sometimes the offsets are also wrong

its not a you problem

its a Mojang problem

[undone junco]

i think you might be right

isnt there a way to debug in the world without having to create a new world every time?

[sly forge]

yes

[undone junco]

like in java you press generate, in bedrock?

[sly forge]

there’s a /place command as well as /reload all

[undone junco]

/place structure_name?

[sly forge]

just make sure the pack is in the development behavior packs folder

[sly forge]

no, theres subcommands

i think its /place structure

[tired sage]

is it currently possible to have a jigsaw structure always end with a specified pool? like closing off any holes of a dungeon.

[sly forge]

whats the point

theyre too buggy to use in a practical way

[undone junco]

I think fallbacks but jigsaws don’t work well.

[tired sage]

y'all right. guess i'll wait for improvements

[old minnow]

Yeah they're aweful

[proper dew]

Are features within features possible

Cuz like

I want to use feature-generated biomes

But i also want the biome's features to be contained within it

[undone junco]

thats not an "it can be done" idea, you should edit default biomes, variants much easier there are a lot

[proper dew]

I've never heard of biomes having variant, can you explain?

I'm really sorry i never worked with biomes that much

[undone junco]

some of them says mutant or they are just similar biomes with slight changes

birch_forest_mutated
birch_forest_hills_mutated
roofed_forest_mutated
jungle_edge_mutated
cold_taiga_mutated
......

[undone junco]

thats the site with all biome id make sure you re lookign at bedrock ones

https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Biome/ID

[leaden furnace]

Interesting if we want to integrate a custom rare feature(in mutated biomes)

[proper dew]

And these variants are defined in the same file, right?

[undone junco]

if you got questions ask me im good with biomes

[undone junco]

nope

[proper dew]

So are variants just custom biomes that are similar to the original ones?

I'm a bit confused

[undone junco]

they have a separate file for each mutated biome so you can create you own editing them.
theese are the biomes i edited

[undone junco]

mutated biomes are biomes with little changes on them they have completely different files

and make sure to remove the vegetation and trees feature for the mutated biomes unless youll have that trees

addons for custom biomes do use that everytime

[proper dew]

So I can't make new variants, just modify the vanilla ones?

Well oof

[undone junco]

yes

[proper dew]

Might see if there are any swamp variants

[proper dew]

This is cool btw

[undone junco]

swampland_mutated

[undone junco]

thanks

but like keep in mind that mutated biomes are rare, like the swampland spawns about 3 times in the entire world

[proper dew]

But i can amplify the probability, right?

[undone junco]

no, generation chances above 1.16 cant be changed

you should use like birch forest mutated to create the biome

its more comon

[proper dew]

But i can change the climate, right?

Or not

[undone junco]

like birch mutated is the birch biome with higher trees, you can just increase height on the normal biome

[proper dew]

Because i really need the swamp climate

[undone junco]

yes, temperature

[proper dew]

Ok

Thank you

[undone junco]

thats the birch mutated

just has higher trees

[proper dew]

Just one more thing

Where do i get the vanilla files from?

Since the GitHub files do not contain them

[undone junco]

thats all the biomes

[undone junco]

bedrock dedicated server

[proper dew]

Biomers

But thank you

[undone junco]

thats all the tree and other... features & feature rules in case you need them

[proper dew]

Oh sorry for asking but

Can the client biome also be forked?

[undone junco]

what does forked mean

[sly forge]

why are you trying to fork a vanilla feature

[proper dew]

Modifying a default file; overriding

[sly forge]

its a little more than that

but you can use client biome files

[rough raven]

I need this.... can you share your sea plant solution for features/feature_rules??? Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[proper dew]

So I've tried to smooth out the birch mutated forest terrain but i keep getting unnecessarily high hills

Is this perhaps a feature or is there a specific property (other than overworld_height) that I need to adjust

[proper dew]

Ye idk nfl

Ngl*

I tried all possible components

[undone junco]

then i think swamp mutated is the best option, depends on the seed it may be easy or hard to dinf

find

[proper dew]

Since i sent that message, i forgot to give an update

I realised i can just set the first parameter to 0.0

[proper dew]

In this message you told me it is possible to change temperature, however i did and it does not seem the colour of grass/foliage changed

Unless a different factor contributed to that

Contributes*

[undone junco]

You have to change it a lot to give that factors like if you go below 0 it will snow and all will be blue green

[proper dew]

Is the range above 1.0?

Since mine is 0.9

Actually I'll just try it

Nah i set it to 9 and still no difference

[undone junco]

Are you going to the mutated biome?

[proper dew]

Yes

[undone junco]

the parameters are downfall and climate

[proper dew]

I'll play around with the values and see if i get any results

[undone junco]

no i figured it out you have to change the colormap

and you have to set the water to
biomes_client.json

{
    "biomes": {
        "swampland": {
            "fog_identifier": "minecraft:fog_swampland",
            "inherit_from_prior_fog": false,
            "water_surface_color": "#4c6559",
            "water_surface_transparency": 1.0
        }
    }
}

swamp foliage, swamp grass
foliage, grass

[proper dew]

I spent an entire our trying to fix it lol

Just to see this

Hour

[proper dew]

Wdym by this btw

I apologise for the ping

Actually, I'll spare you the explaining, I'll try doing it myself

Useful thing i found

[undone junco]

i dont see the problem ping as much as you want

[proper dew]

Ok so

I thought i could do it myself

And i kinda can

But is there a way to find the specific biome without interfering with the colors of other biomes?

[undone junco]

i think you should add in some part raraly used the new color and set the biome to be that color

[proper dew]

Wdym by "raraly"?

[undone junco]

rarely

like use paint and put a color in some corner then edit the values to only the swamp be in that color

[proper dew]

Ok I'll do that

But wait a minute

Shouldn't it automatically load from the corresponding climate?

Or does it map from the vanilla climate

Like i have a birch biome and it has a temperature and humidity of 1.0, but the vanilla ones are ~0.5, so would it map from the vanilla climate or overridden climate?

[sly forge]

you can’t modify vanilla biome placement

[proper dew]

I got it working

[sly forge]

then ur not using a regular version of the game

because it is genuinely impossible to mess with biome placement parameters

such as temperature and humidity

[proper dew]

No i did not use those, i changed the colormap as advised by Carchi77

[sly forge]

ah

ok then

[proper dew]

Might honestly leave the colormap as is cuz it also modifies the colormap for regular birch

[old minnow]

someone's good at biomes 👀

[proper dew]

One more question regarding biome overriding

It seems that surface parameter overriding is not possible

Is that true?

[undone junco]

yes

unless like you re using like mesa canyons

mesa canyons can override biomes

all the generation

[proper dew]

Well there goes my water floor🥲

[undone junco]

as i said you should edit the swamp to get all ready

[proper dew]

Ok so i kinda need to replace the grass with another block anyway but

Would it affect performance much if i made a feature that manually replaces all grass using a single block feature?

[summer iris]

That is the bug with Jigsaws.

[proper dew]

Cuz idk

I mean i would assume not

[undone junco]

It will slow down world load time and chunk generation time

All the feature and feature rules slow down chunk load time and also more iterations mean more time to load

[proper dew]

Yes, instead I've realised to just use exposed blob features because it would better suit my needs, and reduce load time too

[proper dew]

Not related to the previous topic but do rivers/lakes have a feature

[undone junco]

No they don’t, before cave and cliffs they were between different biomes now I think it’s just noise generation

[dawn flower]

IS THAT MINECRAFT?

[sly forge]

lakes are noise generation now iirc

rivers are biomes

[tiny idol]

Yeah

Im little megalomaniac...

[dawn flower]

How many mods did you put in that thing?

[fringe junco]

Has anyone founda fix to the issue where structures get cut off at the chunk border?

They're getting cut off on occasion. I know there's the 3x3 chunk limit, but I can't figure out how to make structures spawn properly within that limit

[sly forge]

just for you:

[tiny idol]

One

Is mine

[tiny idol]

[fringe junco]

I tried removing the scatter rule and that did nothing

[sly forge]

change the bounds from 0,15 to -16,-1

[fringe junco]

this is exactly what i'm trying now lmao thank you

[sly forge]

np

i think this will only work for 32x32 but i dont actually know

[fringe junco]

i'm currently just trying setting it to -16 on the X and Z to be able to try for 48x48

if it clips by a block on the edges idm, it's when it cuts half the structure off i care

[proper dew]

Man what is going on with my partially exposed blobs

[fringe junco]

this actually made almost every structure clip off lol. i set it back to 0 for x and z and still am getting the cutoff

[sly forge]

weird

didnt for me

[fringe junco]

i'm seeing if it's the rotation issue now

[proper dew]

(the grid was absolutely not the intended result)

[fringe junco]

it was the rotation lmfao

[sly forge]

silly silly silly

[fringe junco]

i don't know how this isn't fixed yet, given addons are literally on the marketplace now using Features/FeatureRules

[proper dew]

But would there be a way to replicate them through features?

Cuz i tried using blobs, and well... I sent the result

[undone junco]

idk it seems a lot comblex

complex

[proper dew]

Or at the very least, for the partially exposed blobs to have no obstruction

[proper dew]

Unless that's more of a random probability thing

[undone junco]

what are blobs?

blocks?

[proper dew]

minecraft:partially_exposed_blob is what i am referring to

I think they are used for blackstone patches

And many more

[undone junco]

ohh

[proper dew]

But ye

I just get these weird grid shapes

[undone junco]

you should use jigsaws, when they will work

or you should do ore feature that replaces grass and dirt at y level query.worldy

[proper dew]

Ah

Yes i understand

I'll do that

[undone junco]

no no dont do that i found a better solution

"minecraft:surface_material_adjustments": {
        "adjustments": [
          {
            "materials": {
              "mid_material": "minecraft:water",
              "top_material": "minecraft:water"
            },
            "noise_frequency_scale": 0.035,
            "noise_range": [
              -0.0425,
              0.0425
            ]
          }
        ]
      },

use that

thats basically the things mountain use to generate like granite cuts

[proper dew]

But shouldn't the adjustments be ignored since you can't modify vanilla terrain?

[undone junco]

they work i just shown you a picture

[proper dew]

Seems like i must use the ore feature since this method has no effect

[junior orbit]

Hello! Are Nether feature_rules for crimson trees hard-coded? I am trying to overwrite the vanilla rules, and set iterations to 0.
But I cannot find vanilla RULE, only the crimson scatter features. But setting the iterations to 0 on the scatter features, does not seem to remove them from spawning in game.

[upbeat barn]

Yeah, most nether/end stuff are hardcoded.

There is definitions\feature_rules\netherwart_forest_trees_feature.json but it places minecraft:legacy:birch_forest_tree_feature which indicates internal.

[undone junco]

#1324376503848275980 try searching here

[proper dew]

I finally got it working with ore_feature

[undone junco]

what

[undone junco]

i swear terrain adjustments work for me

[proper dew]

It's not exact but close to what i imagined

[undone junco]

try that biome it has water

[proper dew]

Not needed, i already got my intended generation

But thank you

For... 2 days worth of help😭

[undone junco]

no problem

[velvet spade]

Vegetation patch feature would work too just change clay to water and itl just be water pools can even make the patches larger and deeper

[proper dew]

Uhh

Is mojang aware that you cannot export structures on android?

[undone junco]

Just use a pc

[sly forge]

yes

its intentional

the ui is disabled

[proper dew]

Then why is it available on ios😭

Like apart from the operating system, there is not much of a difference

[undone junco]

Mojang hates Android 😭😭

[proper dew]

So uhh

I got a single block feature which is meant to place a block every 1-2 blocks

But somehow, it's placing them like half a chunk apart

[sly forge]

there is actually

Android stores minecraft files in the internal folders

iOS does not

also im pretty sure its also disabled on iOS

[proper dew]

One small question

How do i prevent vegetation in minecraft:vegetation_patch_feature from spawning on top of certain blocks

Like i have a vegetation patch that is meant to only spawn on grass, but it occasionally spawns on water, though this may be a density problem, I'm not sure

[undone junco]

survivability rules

"enforce_survivability_rules": true,
"enforce_placement_rules": true,

[dull obsidian]

help plz, do you guys know why when i find my custom structure and this one was keeping entities inside at the moment it generates it spawns a LOT of the same enitiy which was meant to spawn once??

[upbeat barn]

You're using Jigsaws right?

[dull obsidian]

yes

[dull obsidian]

this happened

WHY SO MANY!?

[upbeat barn]

I believe it is a known issue that jigsaws will duplicate entities stored in them upon being generated.

@summer iris do you have the bug report?

[dull obsidian]

but i've seen other addons that spawn entities and work pretty fine

:((

[summer iris]

No, not yet.

I'm still messing with jigsaws before I make some.

Jigsaw generation is just so weird right now.

[summer iris]

You best solution is to have a command block spawn the entity after 3 ticks of the command block being loaded.

[dull obsidian]

and to make it dissapear??

[summer iris]

you run a function which spawns the entity and sets the command block to air

[dull obsidian]

i found another way, using an extra structure and connect with with the jigsaw block, this new structure contains the entity and the jigsaw, just that

[old minnow]

interesting, there is currently no report at all...

[opal notch]

IS It possible to make a replaced biome spawn from a certain coordinate and above?

[proper dew]

Is it possible to manually write a structure file?

[undone junco]

Why would you do that

[proper dew]

Well uhh

I can't export, and I don't have a pc, so i must do it some way

[undone junco]

If you send me your world with all the structure and send me which one to export I can export them for you

[proper dew]

Bro is so generous

And i genuinely mean it

Thank you

I just gotta design the structure first

[undone junco]

No problem I like helping people, and also I want to see a lot of cool addons to play

[limber forum]

honestly Smokey, I've seen you idk how many years now and how many times answering those questions over and over again, kinda funny tbh

[proper dew]

4 years to be precise

[junior brook]

Hi

just asking

can we replace minecraft tree generation with our own?

[proper dew]

You can disable it in the vanilla files and replace it with your own trees

[junior brook]

REALLY??

[proper dew]

https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1324376503848275980

Here are the vanilla files

[junior brook]

THANKS!!!

[proper dew]

No, thank Carchi77

[undone junco]

didnt you need to export some structures from your world?

[proper dew]

Yes, but I'm still designing them

[fringe junco]

Has anyone else had issues with single block features not spawning in the sky?

[upbeat barn]

Never had that issue, any constraints?

[fringe junco]

Yeah, I had an air placement filter. I’ll remove em all tomorrow and try again

Is there a max size scatter features should be?

[fickle elm]

chat i think netherrack used in non-jigsaw structures causes crashes, i made several netherrack spikes naturally spawn and i was randomly crashing but now that i removed them, im no longer crashing

[proper dew]

Is there a way to spawn a feature in only one biome despite several biomes having the same tags?

Like forest and birch forest have the same tags but i need it to spawn only in the oak forest

[sly forge]

i think its the fact you have them so common