World Generation General

[junior orbit]

I have large floating islands. they are within 48x48x48 block size

so i should be able to place them, without being cut off.

here is my rule, what exactly do the coords need to be, so i can fit the entire 48x48 struct

ive seen, we should use -16, to get the extra 16 blocks from a chunk?

i tried to put my structs on the corner of the chunks, x:0 z:0, but i am still getting major cutoff.

@upbeat barn 😄

[upbeat barn]

No idea , I always use structures at max to be 32x32

[junior orbit]

do you avoid larger structures because they cannot be generated properly as of now?

[upbeat barn]

Yeah

[junior orbit]

no decent work arounds yet?

kk ty

@upbeat barn any ideas on this. #1214629968081063986 message

they mention the -16

and 48x48 limit

[upbeat barn]

I havent tested that out, try it

[sly forge]

actually not true

if its over 16x16 there’s a chance it can be cut

there is a way to fix this for up to 32x32

but any larger than that idk

[junior orbit]

kk great ty. what do you think of this. going to test

#1214629968081063986 message

seems like maybe 48 x 48 couod be max

[sly forge]

it is the max

but if you want to guarantee no cuts youll have to either go for 32x32 with special settings or go for using a command block to place the rest

[junior orbit]

id need multiple command blocks i believe, to spawn the respective pieces of the structure. Seems doable, but tedious

[sly forge]

you can do all at once, actually

structure blocks themselves support up to 64x384x64

without nbt editing

its technically infinite with nbt editing

[feral fern]

How do I get a custom sapling and make it grow into a tree?

[upbeat barn]

Thats more of a #1067876857103536159 question

[feral fern]

I'm going all over the place today

[warm stratus]

Is there a website or something to learn about "loot_tables"?

[upbeat barn]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/introductiontoloottables?view=minecraft-bedrock-stable

[warm stratus]

thank youu

[summer iris]

Is there any reason for my end features to place in the overworld when biome filter is set to the_end

[upbeat barn]

You sure it's == and not !=

[summer iris]

{
                  "test": "has_biome_tag",
                  "operator": "==",
                  "value": "the_end"
                }```

Yep

[upbeat barn]

Show your full rule

[summer iris]

{
    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:feature_rules": {
      "description": {
        "identifier": "better_on_bedrock:chorus_tree_rule",
        "places_feature": "better_on_bedrock:chorus_tree_feature"
        },
        "conditions": {
            "placement_pass": "first_pass",
            "minecraft:biome_filter": {
                "all_of": [
                    {
                        "test": "has_biome_tag",
                        "operator": "==",
                        "value": "the_end"
                      }
                ]
            }
        },
        "distribution": {
            "iterations": 15,
            "x":  {
                "distribution": "uniform",
                "extent": [ 0, 15 ]
              },
            "y": "query.heightmap(variable.worldx, variable.worldz)",
            "z":  {
                "distribution": "uniform",
                "extent": [ 0, 15 ]
              }
        }
    }
}```

idk if it's a format version or placement pass issue

[muted ether]

That is quite weird.

[inner galleon]

Lol

[summer iris]

Yep. Tried everything I could.

I use 1.20.50 i think

.30 made features stable

some got removed too iirc

[inner galleon]

I have a question, I see that an ore feature cannot generate a block that replaces another block that is being generated by another feature, is there a way to achieve this?

[muted ether]

Later placement pass?

[inner galleon]

I think that is why the Features does not detect the block before being generated and therefore by the time the other block is generated the feature is not activated

I tried using one that was patches but it seems like it's only for the surface of the map

[muted ether]

I think it depends on the feature type you’re trying to use. I need to document this. Sorry, besides the later placement pass idea, I’ve got nothing.

[inner galleon]

I understand no problem

Could you tell me what types of Feature there are? I think I can fix it if I use a different type.

[muted ether]

I’m on my phone, but it’s the features documentation you can find on bedrock.dev.

[inner galleon]

If I'm already seeing that I think if I make a single block feature and then applied ore feature it might work

[sly forge]

anyone know of a better noise algorithm than perlin?

[delicate trench]

Simplex

It’s more performant at 2D and has less directional artifacts

You could also always use voronoi as chungus has demonstrated time and time again

[sly forge]

he wouldn’t properly explain it to me

probably because his programming knowledge is much higher

he probably assumes i know the basics already

[sly forge]

as for simplex, im not sure if it’s possible to implement, but then again i havent really come across a formula i can read either

[delicate trench]

I did it a few months back, but I’m out of town this week, so a shadertoy link is the best I can offer

https://www.shadertoy.com/view/dtXfWN

[sly forge]

so you cant link a formula i can actually understand.

sigh

i’ll try to understand

i have some other ppl i can talk to now so

[delicate trench]

If you give me a min I can pull up an article that explains it pretty well

[sly forge]

ok ty

[delicate trench]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/216813608_Simplex_noise_demystified

Will be in airplane mode for the next few hours so if this doesn’t help, you’ll have to ask someone else

I also sectioned the shader code with the steps so it hopefully makes a little more sense as to what does what

[sly forge]

srry for seeming rude, im just a bit irritated today

[sly forge]

the article explains things a lot better, and it also somewhat explains the variables

im guessing xin and yin would be v.worldx and v.worldz in this case

or two variables that use it in some way

[delicate trench]

Yes

[sly forge]

and i would have to copy the entire function to use octaves?

[delicate trench]

Just put it in a loop

[sly forge]

huh? but what does that have to do with octaves?

[delicate trench]

You run the function multiple times, making appropriate adjustments at the beginning of each iteration, and each iteration of the loop returns a value that you can add to a final sum which is used as the height

[sly forge]

but how would i do that?

have another two variables that are set up for +=?

[delicate trench]

t.l = 0;
t.p = 0;
t.height = 0;
t.i = 0;
loop(total octaves, {
    t.l = math.pow(2, -t.i);
    t.n = [simplex noise algorithm sampled with (v.worldx/t.l, v.worldz/t.l)];
    t.height = t.height + t.n * t.l;
    t.p = t.p + t.l;
    t.i = t.i + 1;
});

t.height = t.height / t.p;

t.p isn't really needed if you don't care about normalizing the height range, but it's often handy to have control over that.

[sly forge]

i know Molang has a for loop but i don’t recall there being another loop function

[delicate trench]

There's no for loop. for_each is for entities and loop is as close to the traditional "for" as Molang gets.

[sly forge]

wait a minute i think i spot a small problem here

its a simple one

[delicate trench]

Then just fix it yourself XD

I'm about to hit the hay

[sly forge]

if t.l = math.pow(2, -t.i)

then in the v.worldx/t.l

you would be dividing by a fraction

lmao

[delicate trench]

My guy

When you divide by a fraction, you multiply by the reciprocal

There's no problem lol

[sly forge]

v.worldx * 2048

[delicate trench]

Oh I see what you mean

[sly forge]

Minecraft, but the entire world is on its side

[delicate trench]

Just multiply then, that's really more of an ambiguity anyway, depends on what lacunarity and persistence the programmer wants

[delicate trench]

No

[sly forge]

yEs~~

fUn~~

[delicate trench]

No I mean that wouldn't happen because of the division

[sly forge]

it wasn’t supposed to be taken seriously lol

[sly forge]

the easiest way to fix this is to remove the negative from -t.i

[delicate trench]

That's what I said

[delicate trench]

Wait this doesn't cause problems, this is literally what you want. God, it's been forever since I've done Molang-based terrain. Ideally, the first octave's samples should be spread out, and as the octave increases, you multiply the inputs, which increases the frequency.

That's as good a sign as any that I need sleep, I'm done here. Good night.

[sly forge]

uhhh you want to divide

not multiply

multiplying increases the slope

…uhh nvm it doesn’t

dividing spreads out the grid the higher the denominator is

should see what multiplying does

[delicate trench]

...I literally just explained this

Ok nvm there's no point sticking around cya

[sly forge]

gn

oh i see what you mean now

[sly forge]

welp

my other problem doesn’t appear to have a solution

for some reason, any octave denominator between 64 and whatever the first one is doesnt have an effect on the terrain AT ALL

not unless i multiply the entire section by 2, and that raises the terrain, it doesn’t vary the shores more

i would need to figure out how to increase the amplitude on X and Z instead of Y without using two other planes of perlin for x and z

[sly forge]

ig the only solution i have is to build a completely new noise formula lol

[delicate trench]

Bigchungus already talked about making lateral octaves here #1116870822095769610 message
But if you want me to loop it for you, just give me a min

t.l = 0;
t.offs = 0;
t.i = 1;
loop(total octaves, {
    t.l = math.pow(2, t.i);
    t.offs = t.offs + [noise algorithm(v.worldx*t.l, v.worldz*t.l)] / t.l;
    t.i = t.i + 1;
});

t.height = [noise algorithm(v.worldx + t.offs, v.worldz + t.offs)]

Forgot to ping @sly forge

[sly forge]

i have something better in mind for the offsets

:3

im making the generation seed-based, though its an annoying process

thanks for the tip tho

[sly forge]

as for the lateral octaves, i dont actually understand the differences between the two

(srry i only just had time to look)

i mean i can see it, but i don’t know how it works

because its in terms i don’t understand

i can’t even understand voronoi

[sly forge]

ok um...

this is supposed to generate spires in the ocean, but for some reason im getting this. any idea why?

also the grass floating is another problem im not understanding (this is the second json file)

note: for some reason the heightmap formula im using to generate them based on the ocean's depth isnt working either

@olive ridge sorry to ping you over something that might be small but do you have any idea whats going on here

[olive ridge]

no clue, but you probably don't need to be using noise for this

since the spires probably don't need to be larger than 3x3 chunks and don't need to be connected to each other, you're probably better off just placing the more like actual features than as terrain

[sly forge]

id really rather use noise for this, because of variation

the spires shouldn’t be any larger than 15 blocks

[sly forge]

i sure hope its not another case like this…

[olive ridge]

use random instead of noise

[sly forge]

?

[olive ridge]

like randomize the height and radius

or something like that

[sly forge]

also im only using noise to determine a location for the features to place in

also i tried randomizing the height but it wasn’t doing it per iteration, but rather per block

the problems with math.random smh

[sly forge]

since this clearly wasn’t working, is there another way i can go about placing them?

besides manually implementing another algorithm?

[sly forge]

radius is also a little difficult because math.random is so irritating

[olive ridge]

@sly forge https://www.desmos.com/3d/b7a73eeb1f

[sly forge]

…since when does desmos have a 3D calculator

[olive ridge]

it's in beta

[sly forge]

ah

[olive ridge]

but its been out for a few months

[sly forge]

would have been nice to have six years ago

[olive ridge]

anyways, that should work for spike gen

[sly forge]

the main issue is i want a flat top

and its not that easy to do

[olive ridge]

then apply some function that smooth clamps the height

[sly forge]

…and for random heights? i have no idea what ur talking about tbh

and random radius you never did answer back on that

[olive ridge]

the radius is just determined by the factors in the polynomial, which are randomized

[sly forge]

hmm

i’ll try to decipher it later (cant read it on a phone lol)

[sly forge]

i figured out why it happened lol

the problem is that 128 is way too large

i’ll have to try 16 instead

[simple pond]

highly elaborate catboy

where were you ? i've been looking for you lol

[sly forge]

ded

[simple pond]

u-u no ur not-

[tight island]

You don't want the generation of an ore to work for me 😭

[ionic cloak]

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[brisk needle]

I want to randomize 13 structure and only spawn one structure per time on ground but it keeps scattering and places like 3-5 structures,
How can i edit the scatter chance so that the structure only gets loaded once?
Is the way i use features the wrong way? scatter -> random -> structure_template

[upbeat barn]

Set your scatter_chance to a really low number and set iterations to 1

[brisk needle]

is the scatter chance on top of the first generating? so if it scatters it generates a second structure?

[upbeat barn]

No, scatter_chance determines the change a chunk has to generate a structure. iterations determines how many of that structure to place in a chunk

[sly forge]

not possible

[ionic cloak]

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[void plover]

sorry for the bad photo quality, but does anyone know why my mcstructure file looks like this?

[upbeat barn]

That's normal

Secondly

[hushed knot]

Please, no screenshots or photos!

Screenshots are hard to read, and photos even more so. This is especially true if you are using bridge or another tree editor, as this format obscures the JSON format.

We can help you best if you copy and paste your code here, or send it directly as a file.

Apr 4, 2024, 10:02 PM

[void plover]

oh ok, thank you

[covert jolt]

Hi everyone

Is it possible to generate terrain like the "farlands" at specified coordinates?

[eternal spade]

you are viewing it as a text file, you should open it using an .mcstructure viewer

[bitter fog]

hey guys is there a way to get rid of snow layers ontop of a plant like block

(I used singleblock then scatter features to generate)

[covert jolt]

Well, I successfully achieved similar terrain generation on the x-z plane, but can someone tell me how to implement it on the x-y or z-y plane?

[covert jolt]

Here is the current display

[covert jolt]

This terrain generation based on this tutorial (https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/heightmap-noise.html)

I achieved this by modifying the molang in the iterations of features/column.json

[unique egret]

What do you guys think when feature rules are coming out of experimental ?

[upbeat barn]

Its already stable now

[unique egret]

So you're telling me that we can generate structures using feature rules ?

[upbeat barn]

Yes

[unique egret]

🤦‍♂️

Thank you very much ❤️

[unique egret]

just one question. Why this still has the "Experimental" tag ?

[upbeat barn]

Hasnt been updated then

Yeah

[unique egret]

I just tried and it works : )

[upbeat barn]

Sorry, im just really busy rn. Only other thing i can think of is your id doesnt match your filename. That being said, if your file is in a folder your id has to be
namespace:folder_name/filename

Upload your rule, feature, and a screenshot of the content log here

[velvet spade]

Try a scatter feature.

It should work better with the single block placer

And the scatter feature has to place the block placer json with the placer placing the single block

If that makes sence

[inner galleon]

XDD

[olive sundial]

how do i make a custom new tree?

[steep lintel]

basic sin/cos math functions lmao

i use 4 detail layers

[steep lintel]

world gen by script api:

[delicate trench]

Nice

[timid quest]

how to limit the number of specific structure per biome? Please ping

[simple pond]

any plan to make this a public NPM package ?

[steep lintel]

not anytime soon, but you can look at prototype code its pretty similar

[simple pond]

well ,it would've been nice if you could one day make the code interface more interactable by abstracting ,but it looks pretty good imo ❤️

Awesome work you did there,incredible

[steep lintel]

ya, thats my plan

[simple pond]

Like it would be nice if you could call certain noise/feature via a static method

[steep lintel]

well, noises are that only part thats is not hard 😂 😅

[simple pond]

XD

anyway ,you're doing us bedrockers wonders.

Imagine a method like "getBiome" ,if that's in the plan ?

[steep lintel]

like in my plan? or ou are talking about Native apis

[simple pond]

i mean like in the plan for custom biomes using your system :P

native API,we already have that with BiomeType class

[steep lintel]

well, thats far future rn, but ya its not hard to implement, but problem is thats are custom abstract biomes that means the vanilla grass dont change colors depend on that biome, same for water or leaves

[simple pond]

🤔 i see that's an issue ,but most custom biomes use custom grass block anyway so...

[steep lintel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[old minnow]

don't know if this has been posted here already,
just read SmokeyStck's Article on how

Minecraft Bedrock Should Adopt Minecraft Legend's Custom World Generation System

Really interesting, I recommend to read it.. its not that much but gives links to interesting sources
It is here: https://smokeystack.dev/blog/bedrock-world-gen

[timid quest]

Cool

[leaden furnace]

Nice article, let's all spam Mojang with this link now 😅 "we found this interesting article and wondering why these interesting features are not yet in the game" 😬

[olive sundial]

is there an only caves addon?

[pulsar nebula]

Just for my own clarification areyou referi g to a single biome world gen

[olive sundial]

sort of

[olive sundial]

how do i make a custom tree?

[upbeat barn]

Take a loot at https://bedrock.dev/docs/stable/Features the tree feature

[olive sundial]

can you override the overworld biomes?

[fading narwhal]

how do i make only one biome to generate?

[scenic kraken]

the biomes are deprecated

[soft turtle]

Help !!
https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1233635726281674812

[fading narwhal]

so making only one biome to spawn is impossible?
i guess i will need to change every biome to the same right?

[scenic kraken]

yup

[sly forge]

i wanna try using this function for worldgen

just for shits

[mint juniper]

are structures spawn with entities upon generating? i made a structure however the entity isn’t spawning when it generates

i tried putting a zombie in my structure but it didn’t generate the zombie

[upbeat barn]

Structures cannot load entities upin world gen

[mint juniper]

dang it

is there a work around?

i might try making a block that generates the structure instead but idk

[upbeat barn]

Have a repeating command block that executes a function that summons a mob and setblovk to air

[sly forge]

its surprising how many ppl don’t know this

[leaden furnace]

Tbh it's one the first thing I came across while playing with world gen, and found the workaround in an old post. It's not that obvious imo

It's more like a bug for me

[sly forge]

it was removed due to game crashes

[leaden furnace]

Hmmm ok didn't know that

[sly forge]

removed in 1.16.220 iirc

[leaden furnace]

Then it's an.. old bug 😅

[sly forge]

lol

it’s unfortunate that mojang never fixed it after they removed it

[mint juniper]

i managed to get it work by making a dummy block that generates and making the block generate the structure

that kinda sucks though

that they haven’t fixed it yet

[leaden furnace]

Yep it's another workaround. It's how it is. It's logical they allocate more dev on the future upgrade than to the maintenance, but sometimes it's stupid 😅
Just pray they will bring world gen through the API, as afaik (haven't read the API chan for one month) they do a good job about this and it should be bug less. Smokey, do you think it would be possible to do world gen from the API as personal opinion?

[unkempt bay]

Can we add dimensions to minecraft bedrock

[upbeat barn]

No

[unkempt bay]

only biomes ?

So aether its not possible ?

[fading narwhal]

unless aether would be a biome

[real fiber]

How would I go about reducing the amount of villages, caves, and ruined portals?

Also seems that features and such are not included in the bedrock sample behavior pack. Is there a place that has these?

[upbeat barn]

reducing the amount of villages, caves, and ruined portals?
Not possible
Also seems that features and such are not included in the bedrock sample behavior pack. Is there a place that has these?
Check BDS or the windowsapp folder

[hushed knot]

Window Apps Folder

The Window Apps Folder has additional files, not available in the VRP/VBP downloads.

Location: ProgramFiles/WindowsApps/someminecraftfolderuwp

How to get Access: https://www.maketecheasier.com/access-windowsapps-folder-windows-10/

May 8, 2024, 8:02 PM

[real fiber]

Found it, thanks!

[covert jolt]

Current display

[sly forge]

lol its not actually hard to do

ive already made the void lands on accident

its nice that someone is purposely doing it tho

must say, looks pretty convincing

i do see a few issues tho, but they shouldn’t be too hard to iron out

[covert jolt]

I am new to the world generation.

Doing this is too difficult for me

[sly forge]

tbf what ur doing rn could be considered a bit more difficult than what most ppl use it for

[covert jolt]

Thank you.

But actually, its performance is very poor because terrain generation is extremely slow. I'm not sure if I should remake it with the script or something else

[sly forge]

actually that depends on how you’re handling it

are you using 2D noise or 3D noise/multinoise?

2D noise tends to work decently well as long as you don’t overcomplicate it

3D noise is where the game has issues

im thinking it’s because of how Molang works

[covert jolt]

Perhaps it's 3D noise.

I make the farlands based on this tutorial pack.

I modified the molang in the iterations of features/asteroids.json and it works

[sly forge]

…pfft

i think that was my old pack i was having someone help me with lmao

yep thats 3D

thats also how i accidentally created the voidlands

[covert jolt]

Wow, what a coincidence!

[sly forge]

using 2D along the X and Z axis should make it run better, but the corner farlands would be a problem

[covert jolt]

"t.noise = q.noise(v.worldy / 16, v.worldx / 8) > 0.01 ? 1 : 0; return t.noise;"

This is the molang I am currently using, and I think I may have added surface layers to the terrain in the wrong way, which cause the slow running

[sly forge]

is that the only part in the file?

[covert jolt]

Basically, but I'm not quite sure how to make the layer. I feel like the method I'm using right now is terrible. Do you have any ideas?

Actually, without the layer I am currently using, it could run better

[sly forge]

can you send the file?

[covert jolt]

Okay, but it may seem a bit difficult as I haven't organized the files very well yet.

[sly forge]

i only need the feature file

[covert jolt]

Thank you for your help

[sly forge]

i only needed the feature file lmao

not everything

[covert jolt]

Sorry, and do you need the feature_rules file?

[sly forge]

nope

just the feature file

[sly forge]

…you know you can send the json file by itself right?

[covert jolt]

But I used more than one feature file

[sly forge]

hmm…

…this looks to be a lot more complicated than it needs to be

it shouldn’t take more than 6 feature files and 2 feature rule files

(ofc this isn’t including the corner farlands as idk how those would even render)

i’ll see what i can do tomorrow morning, it’s getting late

[covert jolt]

Yeah, I just realized now

By the way, the corner farlands is similar to the normal terrain, but is cut layer by layer. I think it might be impossible to achieve it only through the feature generation.

[covert jolt]

Thanks. See you tomorrow
(However it's still daylight here, the time difference is so interesting haha)

[sly forge]

…well this is weird

that variable DEFINITELY exists

it’s doing it for worldy and worldz as well

wtf

[covert jolt]

Maybe it's okay, I've encountered such a problem before, but it seems that the farlands just generating normally

[sly forge]

it shouldn’t generate at all tho

and im confused cuz it works perfectly fine with my terrain generator

[covert jolt]

Have you tp to the specific coordinate ?

[sly forge]

that doesn’t matter

if that error shows up there’s something wrong

in fact when i tried going to the coordinates i set (1000 on the x axis) my game crashed

[covert jolt]

Sometimes this error will disappear by itself, it's really strange (I use 1.20.81)

[sly forge]

im also on 1.20.81

if my game is crashing there’s something seriously wrong

there’s no reason for the game to crash like that with my pc being as good as it is

[covert jolt]

Yeah, my pc sometimes crashes as well. I don't know what's going on either

[soft turtle]

how would someone go about making this, as someone who has never touched world gen is this something somewhat simple to make

[delicate trench]

It is quite easy to do, we have a tutorial on the wiki :)

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/heightmap-noise.html

[soft turtle]

i will check this out! Thank you :)

i wasnt even

sure where to look

[delicate trench]

For future reference then, this server has a (somewhat) affiliated wiki. That's usually a good place to start.

[soft turtle]

i tried to skim it first but wasnt too sure what the names meant

[upper forum]

Hey small question, how do I make a .schematic file. I know some people use world edit on Java but I was wondering if there was a way to turn a structure block into a .schematic file

[upper forum]

Nvm I figured it out ❤️

[void plover]

anyone know what biome tags i could use to replicate the way end ships spawn?

using "the_end" allows my structure to spawn where the ender dragon boss fight ia aswell instead of just in end cities

[sly forge]

unless you limit it to the outer end in the feature rule

[void plover]

how could I do that?

[delicate trench]

Set your iterations to (math.abs(v.worldx) > 1000 || math.abs(v.worldz) > 1000)). If you have more than one iteration set, multiply it by whatever value you have it on currently (ex: If iterations was previously set to 5, your new iteration value should be 5*(math.abs(v.worldx) > 1000 || math.abs(v.worldz) > 1000))).

[void plover]

AHH THANK YOU SO MUCH

[timid quest]

@delicate trench do you know if a way to connect a second structure to a already generated structure? Or should I use entities to control this?

I was thinking of using a CMD block to also control this

[delicate trench]

Cmd blocks are probably the easiest way to do that

[lapis moat]

how do you make structures not place air blocks like this? I don't want it to cut into the terrain looking weird

[mint juniper]

surround every air block around the structure with structure air

or fill

if that makes sense

[lapis moat]

so how would I do that?
isn't it already air

[delicate trench]

*structure void

[mint juniper]

yeah that mb

[lapis moat]

ok that makes sense thx
I'll try that

[sly forge]

afaik structure air (structure void with a data value of 1) just acts as structure void

it is a very real block

[spiral ridge]

my structure isnt generating
its 20x20x20

[runic badger]

How can I change the generation of the world? Like changing biomes, and creating other biomes

[foggy jungle]

Anyone happens to know what "consolidated_features" is?

[candid cape]

sad. Trying to fix an addon and this is one of them...
20:49:17[FeatureRegistry][error]-Test | raigen:levelled_crater_feature | The feature uses the feature type 'minecraft:structure_template_feature', which is considered internal and thus not compatible with this engine version of the game.

[upbeat barn]

Set your ming engine version to 1 20 80

[light kayak]

is it possible to string multiple smaller structures together?

[modern pewter]

sorry for the ping.

[light kayak]

can someone help I want to make a BIG structure because those are cool

[hidden sapphire]

how to change tree generation

[upbeat barn]

Could you elaborate? Are you trying to change how often they generate? The tree themslves? Which tree type? or are you tring to make your custom tree?

[hidden sapphire]

from vanilla minecraft

the tree itself

[upbeat barn]

Access the windowsapp folder and navigate to definitions/features folder. Find the right json file and copy it to your add-on. Then edit the file

[hidden sapphire]

is there a video?

[upbeat barn]

Video for?

[hidden sapphire]

.

[upbeat barn]

Not as far as I know

[hidden sapphire]

how to create a world without structures?

[covert jolt]

Oh, by the way, is it possible to change the height range of the vanilla tree generation?

For example, the oak trees can still generate when y>256.

[upbeat barn]

You can change the feature rule

[covert jolt]

But how should I modify it? I have tried to increase the value of y in the distribution, and the trees only being generated at high altitudes and not at low altitudes.

[upbeat barn]

Modify it to use range instead

[covert jolt]

Oh, can you give me an example? I am not sure how to use range.

[upbeat barn]

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/world-generation-intro.html#feature-rules

[covert jolt]

Ok, I'll try it later. Thanks.

[ionic cloak]

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[scenic kraken]

Create new world > Flat world

[ionic cloak]

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[rare kite]

Can I choose the shape of the leaves in a custom_tree_feature?

[fiery crow]

Hey does anybody know if we’re able to remove vanilla ore spawns in world generation?

In bedrock specifically

[timid quest]

If I'm not mistaken. I believe the ore generation files can be found in the features folder. From there you can modify them

[fiery crow]

awesome, thank you!

[timid quest]

if you need help locating the files for this you can download it from this link
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server/bedrock

And look at the definitions folder

[fiery crow]

thank you so much!!

this is super helpful

[timid quest]

Np

[real fiber]

Is it possible to modify the vanilla noise maps or biome placement in any way?

[upbeat barn]

No

[sly forge]

is this a correct use for a ternary? im wanting a certain octave of a terrain generation function to only activate if the conditions are met

t.terrain_shadow > 110 ? t.mountain_modifier = 1.5 * t.terrain_shadow - 64 : t.mountain_modifier = 0;

[rare kite]

condition ? if true : if false

I saw it here, and it looks like you can use this syntax, but I don't recommend it.

but why don't you use if-else?

[sly forge]

last i checked there is no if-else with molang

just a ternary

[rare kite]

hm, I should have read your message better 😓
I thought this was javascript

[sly forge]

i just don’t know if ternaries can be used to set variables

[rare kite]

I think you can, on bedrock dot dev there is an example that shows this, but it is inside { and }

[sly forge]

world wont load

[upbeat barn]

Can feature rules still not have folders? I know features can

It seems like it can but doesnt follow the features id pattern where it's namespace:folder/file_name

[sly forge]

@muted ether maybe you can help when ur on? world wont load

[muted ether]

It'd be either…

t.terrain_shadow > 110 ? {
  t.mountain_modifier = 1.5 * t.terrain_shadow - 64;
} : {
  t.mountain_modifier = 0;
};

or…

t.mountain_modifier =
  t.terrain_shadow > 110 ?
    1.5 * t.terrain_shadow - 64
    : 0
;

[sly forge]

well the second one stops my game from loading

[muted ether]

Hmm, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so?

[sly forge]

trying the first one

first one threw an error

oops

my bad lol wrong colon type

[sly forge]

froze on first as well

hmm…

im only returning t.base_terrain

could that be part of it?

[sly forge]

ok seems that me only returning one variable was the problem but uhm…wtf just happened

omg…i think i found the problem

the -64 isn’t exactly doing what im wanting it to do lol

[sly forge]

this is what mountain ranges will look like, however i need to learn how to implement lerping to get the transitions correct

[sly forge]

any idea why im still getting a flat wall?

t.terrain_shadow = 70 + 64 * q.noise(v.worldx/4096, v.worldz/4096); t.terrain_shadow > 110 ? {t.mountain_modifier = 1.5 * t.terrain_shadow; t.factor_1 = 32; t.factor_2 = 20; t.factor_3 = 8; t.factor_4 = 4;} : {t.mountain_modifier = 1; t.factor_1 = 1; t.factor_2 = 1; t.factor_3 = 2; t.factor_4 = 1;}; t.base_terrain = t.terrain_shadow + 16 * q.noise(v.worldx/1024, v.worldz/1024) + t.mountain_modifier * math.abs(math.pow(q.noise(v.worldx/512, v.worldz/512), 3)) + t.factor_1 * q.noise(v.worldx/256, v.worldz/256) + t.factor_2 * q.noise(v.worldx/128, v.worldz/128) + t.factor_3 *q.noise(v.worldx/64, v.worldz/64) + t.factor_4 * q.noise(v.worldx/32, v.worldz/32); math.lerp((t.terrain_shadow + 16 * q.noise(v.worldx/1024, v.worldz/1024) + math.abs(math.pow(q.noise(v.worldx/512, v.worldz/512), 3)) + q.noise(v.worldx/256, v.worldz/256) + q.noise(v.worldx/128, v.worldz/128) + 2 * q.noise(v.worldx/64, v.worldz/64) + q.noise(v.worldx/32, v.worldz/32)), (t.terrain_shadow + 16 * q.noise(v.worldx/1024, v.worldz/1024) + (1.5 * t.terrain_shadow) * math.abs(math.pow(q.noise(v.worldx/512, v.worldz/512), 3)) + 32 * q.noise(v.worldx/256, v.worldz/256) + 20 * q.noise(v.worldx/128, v.worldz/128) + 8 *q.noise(v.worldx/64, v.worldz/64) + 4 * q.noise(v.worldx/32, v.worldz/32)), 0.3); t.stone_height = t.base_terrain; return 1;

[steep lintel]

Hey anyone here know how could.i create own noise?

[sly forge]

i feel terrible that you saw what i sent before you asked that lmao

[steep lintel]

ohhh, lmao

but q.noise looks like an build in method right?

[sly forge]

it is

it takes two values and creates noise using it

generally what’s used are v.worldx and v.worldz

dividing them by a number increases the size of the noisemap, multiplying the entire function changes the y value at certain points

[steep lintel]

thanks but what kind of noise it is? Is it perlin noise?

[sly forge]

yep

its perlin

[sly forge]

here’s a formatted version, im having trouble with lerping between the two functions

[steep lintel]

terrain_shadow is your own property?

[sly forge]

…its a temp variable

LOL

cant claim a variable

[steep lintel]

I also have problem with lerping so, so far i am just multiplying some noises to gether

[steep lintel]

hmmm, like for biomes?

[sly forge]

although id prefer if you didn’t use the temp variables im using to avoid conflicting addons

[sly forge]

no, terrain

[steep lintel]

i can use any name for such a variable?

[sly forge]

yes

[steep lintel]

I never worked with custom generation before, only via Scripting so everything is really new to me, well thanks for your info

Also we are not able to place specific blocks on specific coordinates right?

[sly forge]

yes, you can lol

i just don’t know how

[steep lintel]

uhhh

hmm

does someone knows?

[timid quest]

@sly forge could you add well generated structures on here? So basically if the level of the terrain is flat it should spawn in a large structure.

[sly forge]

it’s possible but uhm…

it’s probably not worth it

you can ask Ciosciaa about this

[upbeat barn]

@muted ether can you confirm three things for me:

• Feature rules can be placed under folders but doesnt follow the features identifier naming scheme: namespace:folder/filename
• scan_surface_feature isn't used in any vanilla features
• sculk_patch_feature isn't useable

[muted ether]

Looks right

[upbeat barn]

The first one is quite annoying then

[muted ether]

Yes, yes, it is.

[delicate trench]

you should look into this
#old-world-generation message

[upbeat barn]

Would anyone know why

        "may_attach_to": {
            "bottom": "minecraft:sand"
        },
``` adding this makes noise based columns only generate one layer?

{
    "format_version": "1.21.10",
    "minecraft:scatter_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "smokeystack_world_generation:desert/dunes"
        },
        "distribution": {
            "iterations": "t.height_1 = q.noise(v.worldx/64, v.worldz/128); t.height_2 = q.noise(v.worldz/256, v.worldx/512); t.height_3 = q.noise(t.height_1/1024, t.height_2/2048); t.height = (t.height_1 + t.height_2 +t.height_3) * 10; return t.height;",
            "x": 0,
            "y": {
                "distribution": "fixed_grid",
                "extent": [
                    0,
                    "t.height"
                ]
            },
            "z": 0
        },
        "places_feature": "smokeystack_world_generation:desert/sand"
    }
}
``` scatter feature

@muted ether

[sly forge]

change “y” to 0

i think?

i could be thinking of a different file

yk what nvm ill shut up lmao

[muted ether]

Because they're all placed at one time (so far as I can tell). Dump that constraint.

[opaque ingot]

Hi can someone tell me how to make custom village using nbt like in the minecraft files

[upbeat barn]

You cannot

[opaque ingot]

But there's a nbt file in the minecraft file structure it muss be work

[upbeat barn]

Seeing how jigsaw blocks arent useable by creators, think again

[opaque ingot]

Ohh

[upbeat barn]

I love debuggin world gen stuff

[sly forge]

…

PARKOUR!

[acoustic horizon]

beacon generator

[timid quest]

I don't get it

[digital sky]

is there a way to make exposed ores

[muted ether]

Yeah, but it would require a ton of manual systems. How much do you know right now?

[digital sky]

none on features

and yeah late reply

[muted ether]

Start messing around with other feature systems first. That’s my recommendation.

[upbeat barn]

@muted ether is sequence still bugged? Trying to update my world gen addon and ive been using aggregate per tge wiki

[muted ether]

Yeah, it’s still got a lotta bugs.

[winged raft]

helo there anybody has a guideo n making custom sctructure in world generation?

how do you open mcstructure files?

[scenic kraken]

i thin "machine builder" has one video

[scenic kraken]

nbt studio

[velvet spade]

Try a weighted random into the aggregate and see if that does anything.

[real fiber]

What is the correct process to generate large structures? I have a 64x32x64 structure, but it's loading in small random pieces.

Should I instead be using a feature rule to generate a comand block "structure" which then generates the actual structure?

[real fiber]

Looks like the best way is with command blocks as that can load the whole structure. Is normal process to have redstone trigger the command block when it loads? Seems a bit difficult to save the command block contraption as a structure before it deletes itself, but still have it auto run when it loads

nvm, looks like I can just do Redstone Block -> Impulse command block to generate the structure -> chain command block to remove the command block and redstone block

[upbeat barn]

Or you could do a repeating command block and turn off commandblock in your test world as well

Or make it execute a function

[real fiber]

it seems like if I load a structure that is a command block ontop of a redstone block, it does not execute

oh i see, repeating unconditional command block will just execute. and can delete itself

[real fiber]

on further testing, it seems that it would have been better instead to breakdown the structure into 4 templates connected with Jigsaw blocks. Will try that and see how it goes.

The command block method leads to the structure only popping into existence when the player gets pretty close

[upbeat barn]

Jigsaw blocks dont work btw

[real fiber]

really? 😦

aren't they used for villages?

[upbeat barn]

Theyre not useable for creators

[real fiber]

The UI comes up when I place it in creative. Is there no functionality at all? Or it is just limited?

[upbeat barn]

No functuonality at all

[real fiber]

got it to generate properly. Used a structure that is a repeating, unconditional command block running a function that 1. gamerule commandblockoutput false, 2. loads the structure, 3. replaces itself with air

[sly forge]

why not hust use tick.json to have that gamerule constantly off?

[real fiber]

That seems more wasteful than just turning it off once when the command runs

I think there's a start.json that runs once on world start that I could use aswell

[sly forge]

it reduces the amount of commands required

and having tick.json doesn’t exactly cause any lag with one command

[real fiber]

That would be running a command every tick instead of just having a third command that runs when the structure generates. I already have a mcfunction to generate the structure because I also need to clear the command block after generation

What is the max size of a structure that can be loaded properly as a feature? Is it 48×64×48?

[upbeat barn]

Yeah

[sly forge]

48 x 384 x 48

i don’t think minecraft cares about the y value

[real fiber]

I think I'm going to change my pyramid to load the lower half as a structure so it can be seen from a distance. The lower half will have a command block to generate the upper part when player gets closer

Unless there's a better way to get big structures to load.

The total size is 64x32x64

[sly forge]

i mean i use tick.json for my structure

but then again i don’t exactly have a choice for this lol

[lavish falcon]

Is it possible to make the grass colormap of a flatworld have certain areas with different colors?

[sly forge]

no

[lavish falcon]

😔

[hidden sapphire]

how to generate villages in a flat world

[sly forge]

you cant

hardcoded

thank Mojang for that poor decision

[timid quest]

How are you randomizing the structures? Are you using an entity or CMD block?

[sly forge]

both

also using functions

[timid quest]

What does the CMD block do?

[sly forge]

summons the entity with a corresponding event for the placement direction

the event runs a bp animation for a timer, the timer initiates the functions upon completion

[timid quest]

Oh...okay nvm then

[sly forge]

wdym lol

[real fiber]

Anyone know what the extra 1.20.2 diamond ore generation feature is called or where it can be found? I looked in all the bedrock server versions for 1.20 and didn't see the diamond ore feature anywhere.

[sly forge]

ok i want to generate custom terrain on the underside instead of the top, how do i do this?

[solar lichen]

Hi there,
It's possible to make a infinite ocean around a map? Nothing special, vanilla ocean would be perfect but it just need to be infinite

[covert jolt]

Hi.
Are you saying there is a specific construction area, and outside of this area is the vanilla ocean biomes?

[solar lichen]

yes, basically is that I want, I want everything to be ocean

[sly forge]

custom biome placement isn’t possible unfortunately

though there are ways around it that i wont get into tonight

[timid quest]

Anybody know how to use the "minecraft:rect_layout" Feature?

[upbeat barn]

I believe thats removed

[sly forge]

i didn’t know it even existed

[covert jolt]

I'm not sure if it's possible, but maybe we can replace other biome files with ocean biome code.

[covert jolt]

Hi.
Is it possible to give feature based biome a clay color strategy that perfectly corresponds to vanilla mesa biome.

(It means that the Custom mesa Biome has the same color scheme as the Vanilla Mesa Biome, which can better integrate the Custom Mesa Biome into the Vanilla Mesa Biome)

[summer iris]

Is depth broken in vegetation_patch_feature? What does it even do?

[summer iris]

I'm basically using this feature to generate ponds/lakes but I want them to be like 3 blocks deep but I don't think that's possible. I am not experienced in world gen so I can't make my own pond/lake feature thingy

[sly forge]

anyone?

[timid quest]

Anybody know what the variable.is_legacy? Means?

[timid quest]

[FeatureRegistry][error]-Flame and Steel | fs:goblin_structure_layout_feature | The feature uses the feature type 'minecraft:rect_layout', which is considered internal and thus not compatible with this engine version of the game.```You might be right

[upbeat barn]

I would assume it returns true if the feature is a legacy/internal instance

[fringe junco]

what process are you using to generate randomized dungeons/structures like that?

[sly forge]

it’s complicated lol

im using /scoreboard for the randomizer functions and the logic so im using a dummy entity

im also using command blocks and a timer using bp animations

[fringe junco]

Ah

[fringe junco]

Is there any way for me to have one feature_rule that can place one of several features?

I'm trying to, say, have several variations on one building

[upbeat barn]

You can use minecraft:weighted_random_feature

[fringe junco]

thank you so much!!!

i'm very new to addon development, helps a ton

[zealous sedge]

Do you mean using the lines from the mesa biome for another biome?

[zealous sedge]

depth doesn't work for that

[covert jolt]

Yes.

[zealous sedge]

Wait for me

[zealous sedge]

@covert jolt As far as I know, that is no longer possible, but maybe this cioscia file will help you: #old-world-generation message

[covert jolt]

Oh, thank you so much.

[junior orbit]

Hey i noticed sometimes my structure would be slightly submerged into the ground. But the void blocks seem accurate? Any ideas? !

@upbeat barn 😄

[undone lagoon]

if you don't want blocks to generate, don't put voids there

when a structure loads, any 'void' blocks will just be ignored and will remain as whatever block it was before the structure generated there

[summer iris]

Is there a feature that would allow me to only place something on a somewhat flat surface? I was thinking about search features but would that work?

[velvet spade]

There was a feature that did that it's deprecated

[stoic spruce]

hello

can someone help me

[hushed knot]

Don't Ask to Ask!

Just ask your question!

https://dontasktoask.com/

Jul 22, 2024, 12:02 AM

[upbeat barn]

@stoic spruce

[stoic spruce]

i need help making a dimetion for a wave based game

[stoic spruce]

do you know how

[upbeat barn]

You cant make custom dimension

[stoic spruce]

i dont need a dimetion

[stoic spruce]

i just need to make the whole world into a space based game

[fringe junco]

Are Marketplace addon creators able to take advantage of the Feature and FeatureRule modules?

[upbeat barn]

Not for addons. Dynamic worlds yes

[fringe junco]

Alright, thank you

Currently trying to figure out the best way to spawn structures without using FeatureRules then

Just looking at some of the addons on the marketplace, I think they have access to Features, but not the FeatureRules (Look at hydra bosses)

My current inclination is to do what Tinker's Construct/More Ores and Tools do and find spaces within the simulation distance around the player to place the structures, but I'm unsure how they track where they've already placed structures to avoid them spawning too close

I've done something very similar with command blocks and spawned named armor stands at the location of each structure, but that gets laggy fast and isn't feasible at scale IMO

[fringe junco]

Can one feature rule have multiple conditions?

I'm trying to make a structure that only spawns in the overworld, but not in desert biomes

[upbeat barn]

Yep!

[fringe junco]

after some digging, i found the docs for all_of and none_of

So far so good! I have a couple of structures with biome-specific feature rules, weighted feature pools for when I make structure variants, and loot tables implemented for the structures

[junior orbit]

Hey id like to create a feature / rule that simply places a block IN the ground. instead of ontop.
Which condition do i need for this?
Also, could i do this with a simple Rule > Scatter > single block feature

[upbeat barn]

If its a single block you just need
Rule -> single block

With the rule's y value:
q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz)-1

[junior orbit]

Thanks! That seemed to work for scatter / single block. But not vegetation feature. Is there anything i need to possibly change on the vegetation?

Im just going for a sort of 'pool' look.
but with a block. Not water

[upbeat barn]

Vegetation feature is somewhat bugged and not really useful(it places the blocks in a square). If you're going for a pool look might as well just use scatter feature to get the right size

[stoic spruce]

does anyone know how to restrict player movement to a certain area

[upbeat barn]

Thats not a world gen question, you can probably achieve that via border blocks or scriptapi

[stoic spruce]

no

like i need to keep players in a void

are

for a space

experienc

[stoic spruce]

how do i make the word into space

[junior orbit]

Hey thanks 🙂 Getting into the ground works. But im not liking how squared the feature placement is.
I was able to find nicer placement using vegetation, but as you mentioned its buggy.

Any ideas for me to make this look more like a 'pool'?

[upbeat barn]

I would personally use a scatter feature that places a single block feature in noise pattern so it's more circular ish

Actually @summer iris you were recenetly messing around with ponds, got any insights?

[junior orbit]

Okay thanks, here is my incredibly basic scatter, and rule. You would just add a noise, to the distribution of the scatter.

@upbeat barn if you have time (no rush) could you show me a little example of some basic noise? thay may give me a circular sort of shape. I think it'd save me a lot of time. And I shouldnt need to ask again!

[upbeat barn]

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/heightmap-noise.html This article should explain how noise works.

[summer iris]

I only modified Cici's pool pack and it's really scuffed.

[fringe junco]

Isn't there some way to make Geodes uneven/skewed so they aren't fully spherical?

You could have geodes made entirely of air generate on the surface of the world, if there is a way to fill the replaced area with water

[patent kindle]

does anyone know how to generate a structure specifically at 0 ? 0 but nowhere else. So spawn i guess

[sly forge]

from what i read you can for addons

but ur limited to small structures

like rocks

i was actually sent something about this from iEmotionless

[sly forge]

i still need help here :/

[silver salmon]

{
"format_version": "1.16.0",
"minecraft:feature_rules": {
"description": {
"identifier": "mt:mesa_terrain_rules_dirt",
"places_feature": "mt:mesa_block_feature_dirt"
},
"conditions": {
"placement_pass": "first_pass",
"minecraft:biome_filter": [
{
"any_of": [
{
"test": "has_biome_tag",
"operator": "==",
"value": "desert"
}
]
}
]
},
"distribution": {
"iterations": 256,
"x": {
"distribution": "uniform",
"extent": [
0,
15
]
},
"y": "q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) >= 90 ? q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 1 : (math.mod(q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 1, 4) == 0 && q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) >= 70 ? q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 1 : -1)",
"z": {
"distribution": "uniform",
"extent": [0, 15]
}
}
}
}

The system said that my array is too small (1 < 2) at y extent, need help to fix this thxxx

[steep socket]

hello, I don't know if this is related here but is there a way to view a world's structures that weren't saved in the files of the bp?

[gray lodge]

Hey, just made a post about this but I figured this would be helpful to.
How do structure iterations work? Is the generation higher the lower the number is or higher?

[median spade]

how do i make my tree spawn in water only?

[sly forge]

the lower the number the lesser the chance for it to appear in a chunk

if iterations is 1 itll only place 1 structure

as for scatter chance…the smaller the fraction the lower the chance of an iteration taking place in a chunk

so if the fraction is 1/10, the chance of a structure generating is 1 in 10 chunks

[gray lodge]

That's helpful 👍

[junior orbit]

Hey does anyone know why these structures are getting cut off.....I thought i overcame this issue....
Here is my super simple rule, and scatter.
I am placing at 0 > 1 of chunk origin. with 0 movement on scatter. and 0 adjustment radius on the actual structure feature...

@upbeat barn hey! any ideas?

[upbeat barn]

Does it happen often?

[junior orbit]

there is 100% scatter chance. i can see it happeneing on probably every 1 / 8 trees

[upbeat barn]

The structure could be overriding each other or other features could do the same. :/ unfortunately structure support is really sparse so there isn't much you can do except for making it smaller or rarer

[junior orbit]

Honestly its happening on like 6 / 8 structs. Fkkk. so you suggest just less spawn chance for now?

[upbeat barn]

Yes

[junior orbit]

This actually seemed to help quite a bit. by simply setting x, and z to -16

#1257986711762501732 message
For future reference!

[summer iris]

I am actually curious what I can do to search for a flat surface to place a structure? I assume I have to use a search feature but how does one do it?

[oak cipher]

im curious too

[worldly oxide]

Anyone have a generation addon, that changes design?

[steep lintel]

? What design?

[dense crow]

I have this problem constantly and I have tried many ways to fix it but none have completely fixed it. I'm OCD, which made me frustrated and stop updating my addon been dreaming for a long time, now can only wait for mojang to fix it

[timid quest]

I would like to know this too

[dim sentinel]

Question... and it seems like it was added to the docs. But can you now change the height of terrain in vanilla biomes? or even the block types in the vanilla biomes? it looks like this was added from the microsoft docs, but i struggle with knowing what is preview and what is stable and what is experiemental still

[upbeat barn]

Block types yes, terrain gen is...iffy

[dim sentinel]

Aah. nice... i can remove a bunch of lag from skyblock then by chaning things to stone.

[dim sentinel]

custom biomes are still expiremental missed that...

[oak cipher]

and they dont work

broke after 1.18

[dim sentinel]

They do

Just tested today

On 1.21.2

[oak cipher]

editing an existing one or actually adding a biome

[dim sentinel]

Editing.. I don't want to add

[oak cipher]

...

bruh

you said custom biomes

I understand that the toggle is called that, but I thought you meant implementing your own biome

[dim sentinel]

I am sorry that you read my statement incorrectly

I didn't respond to you.. you didn't read the post I made literally just before that

[oak cipher]

its a public chat bruh

[oak cipher]

Nope, I did not.

[dim sentinel]

You pinged me complaining about my post then pinged me every messages...

And used bruh like I owed you something

[oak cipher]

well I wasnt complaining, I was just explaining I was confused

didnt mean to come off like that 🤷‍♂️

[dim sentinel]

Reading 1 message out of a conversation will do that

[oak cipher]

Yup

[dim sentinel]

You don't need to ping me 10 times in 2 minutes

[oak cipher]

habit of replying lmfao

[oak cipher]

Thanks for the info!

[undone lagoon]

mfs be loosing it over getting pinged mid conversation

wild

[timid quest]

Fr

[dim sentinel]

Say what you want... but after the fist ping the other 9 were not necessary

you put free to ping in your name... do i have that in my name... It was mainly the Bruh that made me mad. maybe i was on the web when it was used as an exasperated insult for people to tell someone you are being a complete and utter moron... and the people these days dont use it that way... But that is how i read it..

[dim sentinel]

This one illicitied the salt.. not the pings.

IE... i ask a question... but when it was not the question the responser wanted i get a bruh.

[dim sentinel]

And this one with a ping...

[limber forum]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-26826812

[oak cipher]

🤷‍♂️

[agile socket]

Guys, i'm confused, the way structures are distributed in a world using "scatter_chance": 1.0, will this number make it spread less or more? I read the docs, but i still don't understand. Does the number to make more appear have to be higher or lower for mass generation?

[upbeat barn]

Scatter chance is the chance the game will place your feature in a chunk

What you're looking for is probably iteration which dictates how many times the game will place that feature in a chunk

[agile socket]

I have an apartment (structure) that is generating too much, its iteration is 1 and the scatter chance is 0.5. Is it correct to see so many apartments with this? I need less than it is currently generating.

[upbeat barn]

Set the numerator to 1 then denominator to 100. That gives it a 1% chance

[agile socket]

Another structure that I hardly see in the world, has its iteration 1 and scatter chance 1.0

[marble escarp]

why do custom blocks stop working when placed by a structure and how do i fix that?

[upbeat barn]

I believe thats fixed in 1.21.10

[marble escarp]

i remember seeing that in the changelog but im in 1.21.2

maybe it was fixed for regular block generation but not structures idk

[left stream]

Is it possible to prevent vanilla structures from appearing?

[upbeat barn]

No

[left stream]

Ty

[zenith pewter]

Whats the best way to choose from like 4-5 differnet structures randomly when generating, should i use a seperate feature and rule for each??

[upbeat barn]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/reference/content/featuresreference/examples/features/minecraftweighted_random_feature?view=minecraft-bedrock-stable

[halcyon elbow]

If I make a new generated ore. Will I have to make a new world for it to spawn? Or will the ore generate in undiscovered chunks?

[upbeat barn]

Undiscovered chunks

[halcyon elbow]

Sweet, thanks for the fast reply 👍

[zenith pewter]

Ok thanks

[real fiber]

I'm trying this now but I'm getting an error 'unhandled request for unknown variable 'variable.worldx'?

Any idea what may be wrong?

Feature rule:
{ "format_version": "1.20.20", "minecraft:feature_rules": { "description": { "identifier": "minere:end_end_portal_rule", "places_feature": "minere:end_end_portal_feature" }, "conditions": { "placement_pass": "first_pass", "minecraft:biome_filter": { "test": "has_biome_tag", "operator": "==", "value": "the_end" } }, "distribution": { "iterations": "(math.abs(v.worldx) > 1000 || math.abs(v.worldz) > 1000)", "x": { "extent": [0, 16], "distribution": "uniform" }, "y": "q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz)", "z": { "extent": [0, 16], "distribution": "uniform" }, "scatter_chance": { "numerator": 1, "denominator": 25 } } } }

[ornate wasp]

Is there documentation on biomes for 1.21.2?

[upbeat barn]

Check the MS Docs or Bedrock.dev. FYI, custom biomes are borken

[ornate wasp]

What kind of broken?

[hushed knot]

Can I make Custom Biomes?

No. Custom biomes have been broken since 1.18. Mojang is fully aware of this and working hard to bring back this capability.

Here is the bug report: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-100700

Aug 12, 2024, 12:02 AM

[ornate wasp]

oh

what about the experimental toggle?

[upbeat barn]

It doesn't work

[ornate wasp]

That's dumb.

Thanks anyway!

[summer iris]

Wanna verify something super quick. Feature rules are allowed to have subfolder in them right? I mean, they work, but they throw an error to the console.

[upbeat barn]

Yes

[summer iris]

But why do they throw an error?

[upbeat barn]

What error

And show an ss of your folder struct

[summer iris]

"better_on_bedrock:vacant_dusk/big_fungus"

[upbeat barn]

Feat rules dont follow that id format

It will ignore the foldernames

[summer iris]

Oooh

[upbeat barn]

So
folder/folder1/folder2/rule

Is still rule

[summer iris]

Thanks! ^^

[upbeat barn]

However, if its feature:
folder:folder1/folder2/feat

[summer iris]

I know ^^ thanks tho ^^

[acoustic coyote]

Is it possible to make caves bigger with the world generation ?

[real fiber]

Yes. You can use features to make new caves. Look in the bedrock server files.

[sly forge]

im having a bit of a strange issue

this worked perfectly fine in preview 1.21.20, why am i getting this in the content logs for 1.21.30 all of a sudden?

anyone?

[ornate wasp]

I'm having the same problem.

[sly forge]

its really weird

[exotic estuary]

how could I add clusters of custom blocks to vanilla biomes? clusters like granite, diorite, tuff, andesite

[sly forge]

ore features

anyways, custom superflat :D

[hard cipher]

Should loot added to chests inside structures really disappear when generated naturally in realms and servers?

[undone lagoon]

epic

[copper blade]

Generation masters:

[sly forge]

lmao

[real fiber]

What do I need to set iterations to in order to get a feature to generate in the outer End islands?

With this I get:

"format_version": "1.13.0",
...
"iterations": "(math.abs(v.worldx) > 1000 || math.abs(v.worldz) > 1000) ? 1 : 0",

unhandled request for unknown variable 'variable.worldx'

[umbral pebble]

You literally leveled the playing field

[acoustic coyote]

I'm looking for someone who knows how to do custom features

I can pay

[light brook]

yo does anyone know if it’s possible to make structures that blend in with its surroundings

like vanilla structures do

[ionic cloak]

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[junior orbit]

Hey I didnt realize it was possible to simply replace vanilla structures? How can we do this? in feature rules somewhere?

[junior orbit]

Or maybe we just overwrite the vanilla files using the same identifier?

[sly forge]

no

[sly forge]

yep

[ionic cloak]

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[sly forge]

trees and stuff are replacable

you can also replace desert wells

but anything else? nope

[ionic cloak]

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[sly forge]

disabled all above-ground features by setting iterations to 0, voiding out the world with features, and using 4 features to generate each of the 4 layers

if you learn a bit about how features work its extremely easy to do

[ionic cloak]

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[sly forge]

np

[junior orbit]

So i just create a feature, with same identifier as vanilla, and make edits on the feature file?

[sly forge]

yh

[junior orbit]

is that what you did for this? just set all vanilla iterations to 0? by overwriting?

[sly forge]

yh

[ionic cloak]

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[delicate trench]

you have iterations set to 80, change it to 1 if you only want one tower to spawn

[ionic cloak]

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[acoustic coyote]

I'm looking for someone who is willing to do custom features against money

[ionic cloak]

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[sly forge]

its how many can generate in a single chunk

[ionic cloak]

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[sly forge]

wdym by 100

1/100?

[ionic cloak]

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[sly forge]

weird

100 is supposed to mean 1 set of iterations generates every chunk

[sly forge]

try the other way, using numerator of 1 and denominator of 100

means one structure should generate every 100 chunks on average

[ionic cloak]

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[sly forge]

no

[ionic cloak]

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[sly forge]

turn content logs on

im really not in the mood to scan through files rn…

[ionic cloak]

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[sly forge]

np

[silk spire]

So what’s the extent we can modify world gen?

only structures or can we edit the actual way the terrain spawns

[sly forge]

hmm

[sly forge]

ur gonna want to grab a little popcorn

you can change vanilla non-structure features for the most part, and you can also change where desert wells spawn, but you cannot change anything else like desert temples

you cannot modify the vanilla terrain generator and you cannot create custom biomes, however you can use scripting or molang to create your own terrain and biome generator yourself, though combining both may prove quite difficult

[silk spire]

Ah so rip making deeper oceans

[sly forge]

yep

[sly forge]

im having an issue with my noisemap

it worked perfectly fine last night (1st image) but when i changed the color and noisemap size the yellow blocks are not there (replaced red with yellow)

these are the relevant files for the "pure" color (wool)

anyone know whats wrong?

[sly forge]

anyone at all?

[sly forge]

@delicate trench what about you?

[sly forge]

nvm fixed it

[round cosmos]

It's actually my fault lmao

From quite a long time ago now haha

[delicate trench]

Today’s my first day of college classes, not a good time

[sly forge]

gl

[timid quest]

@sly forge
im fairly new to the feature files, but what values do i need to change to ensure that my structure only spawns around the same rate as the vanilla jungle and desert temple?

[inner charm]

how do i fix this? 😭

its just stuck here

[storm thunder]

How can I put a structure between Y 35, 90 but with - 2 blocks?

Like combining "y": { "extent": [35, 90], "distribution": "uniform" },with "y": "q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 2",

[pure roost]

Does anyone know the patterns for ore distribution besides uniform

[sly forge]

…it’s complicated, you would have to ask @delicate trench about that

[sly forge]

t.minmax = q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz); t.minmax > 35; t.minmax < 90;

try that

[storm thunder]

Where would be the - 2 part?

[delicate trench]

Why dude

I can’t rn

[sly forge]

ur the only one who can to my knowledge

[sly forge]

hmm…

t.minmax = q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz); t.minmax > 35; t.minmax < 90; return t.minmax - 2;

[storm thunder]

Thanks, I'll try that. Unfortunately I'm a bit busy to test it at the moment.

[marble escarp]

how can i make a structure spawn a set amount of times and at certain distance from the spawn?

[sly forge]

i don’t think it’s possible for the first one

second one i can’t remember how

[timid quest]

Is there a log output that will tell me the status of a generated structure?

[sly forge]

if its already generated, no

but if theres anything wrong the content log gui will tell you

[timid quest]

Well...I know that, maybe I can use a CMD block to output a message for me

[sly forge]

aaand how exactly is that gonna help?

[timid quest]

Well I guess I'll see if it does help

[stuck pebble]

how to make a custom biome?

[upbeat barn]

You cant

[stuck pebble]

how about a massive custom structure (like the acient city)

[timid quest]

I need help generating a structure on a flat surface...any pointers

[runic cradle]

      "minecraft:generation": {
          "generator_type": "void"

what are the valid generator_type can i use instead of void ??

[sly forge]

nope

void is the only usable one atm

[runic cradle]

oh ok

[runic cradle]

any way to increase the max world height ?

without messing up the rest of the world ??

[sly forge]

not without making it a void world no

[runic cradle]

oki oki

[haughty sonnet]

oh my god ive been looking for resources on how to create custom biomes for bedrock and I just figure out theyre not working at the moment?????

[upbeat barn]

Correct

[hushed knot]

Can I make Custom Biomes?

No. Custom biomes have been broken since 1.18. Mojang is fully aware of this and working hard to bring back this capability.

Here is the bug report: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-100700

Sep 9, 2024, 12:02 AM

[haughty sonnet]

I should have looked here first I made the blocks and everything

[upbeat barn]

There are signs thag custom biomes are close to returning. Though likely youll have to wait until 2026

[sly forge]

there is another option but itll take a long time

[haughty sonnet]

If it's too long to explain that's all good, but if there's like a video or resource or something... I wouldn't mind having a look at it..

[sly forge]

it requires you to rebuild the entire overworld

[haughty sonnet]

o h

[sly forge]

it’s not really hard if you know algebra, but recreating the structures is the hard part

not only that but it requires a bit of scripting knowledge as well as knowledge with block creation

[compact crescent]

Wa-
how did you do that!!!!

[sly forge]

basic features knowledge

its one of the easiest things you can do

[compact crescent]

does it go below y 0?

[sly forge]

it can if i want it to

but id prefer not to (floating mineshafts and ruined portals)

[compact crescent]

i mean the surface level, what's the lowest it can be?

[compact crescent]

yeah, that's what i thought, we can't get rid of those still.

[sly forge]

it’s unfortunate

its set to 80 rn

itll go down to -64

but id prefer not to

[compact crescent]

i tried to do something similar before, but i couldn't get rid of the deepslate layers

i think because i was using biomes only

no features

[sly forge]

you cant void biomes anymore

[real fiber]

Does the end generate the same in Java as on Bedrock? I know the biome tags are missing on bedrock, but couldn't tell if the terrain was different

[dawn flower]

I have old terrain generation code and it nono wanna. This unfortunately means I cannot mimic beta java terrain as desired. Does anybody know a better, different approach?

[undone lagoon]

i believe the only difference is the location of end cities and ender gateway

[sly forge]

anyone found a way to generate custom noise caves without tanking world load times or using cave carver features?

[dawn flower]

I was scouring for world gen knowledge just cus I wanted to get my dimension working, and I came across this.

I disregarded it earlier, but this guy, if you message him, may have some leads on this.

#1115780473235456000 message

A little theory, too. Quite literally, include empty space code based on the noise inside of your terrain placement equation.

Like how it detects how a column should be placed? Use variables that lead back to an equation that leaves empty space in a tunnel-like pattern across the columns. that’s only a theory

[rose flicker]

is it possible to delete vanilla structures?

[sly forge]

other than wells, no

[rose flicker]

😦

[velvet spade]

any advice on getting started with world gen?

[dawn flower]

yup https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/world-generation-intro.html

Get used to it

[real fiber]

When structures are generated using the structure feature rule, is the position the center of the structure, one of the corners, or the location of the structure block?

[upbeat barn]

The corner of the structure. It's essentially like using a structure block or the structure command

[real fiber]

Anyone know how to get a feature to generate only in the outer end islands?

[real fiber]

edit: use molang in the y coordinate and set to Y= -1000 if it's not somewhere the feature should generate

[broken carbon]

Anyone has a map where in every dimension there is no single block for infinite distance?

[sly forge]

you can do that without a map pretty easily

[broken carbon]

How?

[sly forge]

using overworld.json

itll be infinite if you do it that way

[broken carbon]

It‘s only the overworld and Idk what to use it for

Should I just create a file called overworld.js and leave it clear?

Same with nether.json and the_end.json?

[void plover]

Is there anyway to simulate biomes by having a patch of a certain block spawn, along with structures that can only spawn on that specific block?

[copper blade]

Mcpedl

[sly forge]

theres certain things you have to do

and it can be used for all 3 dimensions

its explained on the Microsoft docs

[sly forge]

yes, and its been done many times before

[void plover]

Are there any guides or resources for it?

[sly forge]

i think theres one on wiki.bedrock.dev but i could be wrong

[celest willow]

Are custom biomes still broken or can we make them now?

[delicate trench]

still broken

[celest willow]

Thank you!

[wooden gate]

does anyone know if an addon exists that increases the density of foliage?

[misty pivot]

For now anyway...

[celest willow]

Hasnt it been broken since before 1.18? Thats when I started messing around with addons. I don’t remember it ever working

[misty pivot]

Pretty sure it broke after 1.18, due to the new way terrain generates.

[celest willow]

Makes sense

[olive sundial]

Is it possible to make custom trees?

[scenic kraken]

structures

[upbeat barn]

Yes

[upbeat barn]

No need for structures

[olive sundial]

How?

[upbeat barn]

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/world-generation-intro.html#features-and-feature-rules

[fringe junco]

I know marketplace addons can't currently use the FeatureRule API, but do they have access to Features? I'm trying to look into ways of making structures spawn using mob spawns (after reviewing similar projects i've done with commands and what MP addon developers have said)

Here's the vision. The mob spawns and runs a test command to see if it detects a certain block within.... say..... 80x10x80. Let's say it's a new block- "Structure Core" or something. If it detects the structure core, it dies. If it doesn't detect the block, it generates the structure in question, which will contain a structure core

I feel like this is possible, since iirc something nearly identical is doable with commands

Me and a friend spent a good few weeks making a large number of sky structures, spawning them with a similar process

[sly forge]

features and feature rules go hand in hand, so no

[velvet spade]

where do we get the updated features and feature rules at again? mines severly outdated lol

[hushed knot]

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Oct 12, 2024, 12:02 AM

[spring thistle]

couldnt you, in theory, make it so a vanilla biomes mutated generation makes a modded biome?

ima test this rq

[spring thistle]

didnt work 😭

[sly forge]

mutated biomes are deprecated iirc

[strange kernel]

will you help make world generation

[compact crescent]

how to make a lava lake feature?

[wooden gate]

does anyone know how to make the generation of trees denser? or if a pack like that already exists?

[upbeat barn]

You can modify the vanilla feature rules to place more iterations

[wooden gate]

sry I'm pretty new to this, do you know where that value is located?

or where to look for it

[hushed knot]

Window Apps Folder

The Window Apps Folder has additional files, not available in the VRP/VBP downloads.

Location: ProgramFiles/WindowsApps/someminecraftfolderuwp

How to get Access: https://www.maketecheasier.com/access-windowsapps-folder-windows-10/

Oct 15, 2024, 12:02 AM

Bedrock Dedicated Server

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/servers/server-software.html

Oct 15, 2024, 12:02 AM

[upbeat barn]

You can grab the vanilla world gen jsons from any of the two sources above

[wooden gate]

thanks!

[wooden gate]

I downloaded bedrock samples 1.21.30.3 from the GitHub, but I can't find anything called vanilla world gen
This was the closest thing I could find

[velvet spade]

most of the links are either outdated or broken ive found. but you can make your own features and feature rules with bridge extensions

[wooden gate]

I’m sorry, but what’s the bridge extension?

[upbeat barn]

Dont use the bedrock samples, use the links i gave above

[mint juniper]

wait, is it possible to use this to make structures spawn more, or less?

or is it just for trees

[upbeat barn]

Not structures

[mint juniper]

alr

[wooden gate]

I looked a what you sent me as well, but I still couldn't find anything

this is all very new to me, it's only my second time trying to make a pack. sry if I'm acting kinda slow

[leaden furnace]

In these two folders you will find everything you need. Follow the link that Smokey gave to you to access this folder on Windows

[wooden gate]

I found it! thank you!

but before I go through each feature, it there a global iteration modifier I can change to do it quickly?
there prob isn't, but I figured it'd be worth asking

[leaden furnace]

Nope, you need to look into each file

[wooden gate]

alr

thanks

[leaden furnace]

IE : in feature rules, if you locate flower_forest_tree_feature.json, you can change the default iteration 1 to set it to 3 if you want more trees in flower forest biome ( you can't choose what vanilla trees afaik, only option for that is to create a custom one, put it into a structure and create a feature and feature rule for that)

[wooden gate]

alright, but what does this monstrosity mean lol

[upbeat barn]

It takes the noise value and does math to produce the number of iterations

[wooden gate]

oh

what value should I change in order to increase it?

[upbeat barn]

You can set it to just a normal value if you want, so every chunk will have exactly 160 instead of based on its position in the world

[wooden gate]

ah, I see.

[leaden furnace]

hi Smokey any minecraft:legacy: whatever_feature is hard coded right?

[upbeat barn]

Yep :/

[leaden furnace]

😭

[wooden gate]

I should organize my pack like this, right?

[upbeat barn]

Yes

[wooden gate]

alright
anyhow where do I view the output log

[hushed knot]

What is Content Log?

The content log gives you live feedback for most errors that could occur while developing your add-on.

In Minecraft:

1. Go to settings
2. In the General section, select "Creator"
3. Enable Content Log GUI

For more information:
https://wiki.bedrock.dev/guide/troubleshooting.html#content-log

Oct 16, 2024, 12:02 AM

[upbeat barn]

@wooden gateThis?