World Generation General

[round cosmos]

I'd expect this to generate from t.heightmap-3 to t.heightmap, so should be 3 blocks thick

okay, got something working. Using a scatter feature to offset the height and the column just always generates as 3 blocks tall. Not sure why the other setup didn't work tho

[delicate trench]

I’ll be able to start working on an example in like 20 mins

[round cosmos]

Yeah maybe your setup will be more efficient than mine haha. No rush tho if you're busy with other work I get that

(I'm meant to be doing other work too 😬 )

it could definitely be done better than this

don't even have the air or water system yet

officially not what I wanted lmfao

if you ignore the floating vines and such it works

[round cosmos]

no idea how these slipped thru the air column

awkward

dumb mistake and lost my files lmao

phew got everything setup again

only just remembered how lmao

[delicate trench]

Done 👍

[delicate trench]

It's not perfect. It has the same problem you ran into here. But it's a lot less complicated. You can fine tune the terrain yourself, I just used a basic q.noise call.

This would be a lot more complicated to set up than simply calling q.noise, but if you want better performance, I'd suggest writing another psuedorandom algorithm for the terrain from scratch. Something less taxing than Perlin, obviously. Maybe value noise would be good enough, even if its tiling is slightly more noticeable.

[round cosmos]

Oh sick ty! I'll look into that when I get home. Much appreciated

What's value noise? Would some combination of trig functions still be less taxing than q.noise?

[delicate trench]

Just about anything is less taxing than q.noise lol

[round cosmos]

But q.noise is so nice 😔

[delicate trench]

And value noise is kinda like a "dumbed down" version of Perlin. Instead of taking four offset vectors and four gradient vectors, value noise just takes four psuedorandom values, one per corner, and smoothly interpolates between them.

So you kinda lose the extra randomness from Perlin's offset vectors, but Perlin has directional artifacts anyway so eh ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[round cosmos]

Right, fair enough. I did some tests a while ago with sine based noise and it was alright

[delicate trench]

Honestly if you just want to mash a bunch of trigs together and call it a day that would probably be good enough for whatever you're doing XD

[round cosmos]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648066709441478656/829221724640903178/lag_test.gif

Yeah lmao here's the only gif I could find of the sine noise

Not best demo but it was pretty good. Just added multiple sines together with non repeating multiples of x like sqrt 2, pi, etc so it'd never have tiling

[delicate trench]

Yeah, if it works, it works

[round cosmos]

Ahh v.worldy is what I was looking for but couldn't figure out!

[round cosmos]

For whatever reason my system seemed to be a lot faster. I will continue looking into this to hopefully figure out why

Or maybe I'm just not seeing something and it wasn't

[undone lagoon]

.

[sly forge]

@delicate trench idk if u know this or not but there's something else u cant do with ur terraria addon

dungeons

theyre orderly but theyre also cavelike, too natural to use a dungeon generator for without doing some crazy stuff

[round cosmos]

I've got my dungeon generator wip tho and it may be suitable

[delicate trench]

dw about it, that wasnt how i planned to make the terraria dungeon anyway

also, i havent thought about the terraria addon in literal months lol

[round cosmos]

Yeah valid

[dim sentinel]

Is there a good way to modify things like ocean monuments and strong holds?

[sly forge]

unfortunately no, to my knowledge

oh and look who it is lol

the person i talked to about that chest addon (creator)

i can create a custom stronghold but i cant remove a vanilla one without voiding out the blocks that make up strongholds or modifying BDS

[dim sentinel]

For my purpose that isnt a problem

Skyblock...

[sly forge]

OH

[dim sentinel]

I just want to void the blocks and put in a frame/spawner

[sly forge]

u want custom structures to spawn or no?

[dim sentinel]

I would like the vanilla ones.

[sly forge]

oh hmm

[dim sentinel]

Just want to put some blocks back if i void the area

Like a micro monuement spounge room

[sly forge]

in that case, void out every block in the entire game that doesnt make up those structures

[dim sentinel]

Yeah but i want to put something there so the player knows that there would have been a structure

[sly forge]

uhm nvm im not sure what ur getting at here

[dim sentinel]

So assume i void the world

I would like to make the world playable without using chunkbase. including getting guardians

[sly forge]

oh uhm...

yh thats not possible, the feature rules for vanilla structures arent data-driven afaik

[dim sentinel]

So i cant put a portal frame in and have ender pearls go towards it.

Just trying to figure out what i can do vs cant. I know i can void out the world

[sly forge]

nope not without doing everything custom

[dim sentinel]

hmm.

The way i was doing it was running a custome feature over and voiding all the blocks that were not blocks specific to those strucutres.

but that got reall slow.

[sly forge]

also you shouldnt have ruined portal troubles since you want those

[dim sentinel]

And got much worse in 1.20.30

[sly forge]

are you doing it with single block features only or r u doing it with columns?

columns its much faster

[dim sentinel]

i was doing it with single block features.

[sly forge]

yh thatll do it

[dim sentinel]

Yeah... it worked but will the colums replace blocks that i dont want replaced? Like can i do the "replace only"

[sly forge]

yes, its just an aggregate iirc

[dim sentinel]

Sorry got it to work and stopped fiddling until it broke.

[sly forge]

lemme check my custom terrain files

nvm its a bunch of scatter features hooked up to an aggregate

nvm again yeesh

its been a while lemme figure this out lol

ok its single block features hooked up to an aggregate feature that gets placed by a scatter feature

the scatter feature is what generates with feature rules

youll need all ur single block features hooked up to an aggregate with placement rules set by a scatter feature, the reason its slow is probably because ur using well over 100 feature rules when you really only need 1

[dim sentinel]

interesting.

Techincally i have 1 feature rule that itterates throuhg all space

[sly forge]

hmm idk then, could be just the sheer amount

might just have to go full custom

ofc guardian farms would require chunkbase tho

[dim sentinel]

Yeah. if i went full custom i would just load a structure every chunk that is air.

maybe if i do that at the beginning things will be happier... i need to play some more.. i just hate the make new world portion...

[sly forge]

and youll have issues with mineshafts partially appearing

[dim sentinel]

yeah i know that problem

nothing i can do about that.

I have been playing with this on and off since 1.16...

[sly forge]

• you need to disable all dark oak forest features and sculk features, if the dark oak ones can still be removed

if not youll need a custom air block layer at y=319

[dim sentinel]

And all the water features for sea grass and coral

Because the replace with air leaves water on layer 1 of the world file

[sly forge]

those shouldnt generate with a void pack because coral needs a support block

[dim sentinel]

Basically i disable all the features.

And i guess i would have to put in strongholds manually...

And the player would have to find them randomly

[sly forge]

youll never be able to get it exactly right

not unless Mojang fully 100% data-drives worldgen

[dim sentinel]

I wonder if i could mess with the path finding algorithm for the ender pearl using API....

[sly forge]

you can

[dim sentinel]

or just replace enderpears with custom ender pears and point them to the correct spots.

[sly forge]

you can do that too

[dim sentinel]

then i would have to put the portal frames in fixed spots... not based upon the seed...

[sly forge]

you might still be able to do it with js

idk for certain cuz i dont mess with it

[dim sentinel]

I dont think i have access to the seed

So if i generated the location based upon the seed... then i wouldn't know where to look.

[sly forge]

it really is unfortunate that bedrock is so limited

[dim sentinel]

I have been mucking about with it for a few years. it isnt as limited as people think. you just have to be creative.

Usually there is a work around...

[sly forge]

ik this personally

[dim sentinel]

Many people have told me things were impossible... and they were just requiring a new perspective

[sly forge]

my workaround for Creeping Crypts is only effective to the full extent because i didnt use a custom ticking block, which those tend to cause freezing issues

i used command blocks :p

[dim sentinel]

I mean... Structura (litematica for bedrock), Chunk borders, UHC, decent sky block... i was told all were litterally impossible... but they all work.

[upbeat barn]

Ig technically couldnt you just replace all the prismarine in a world, and then in a later palcement pass place prismarine adjacent to sponges? Though Im not sure if that will work

[sly forge]

pretty much every modded java player is like that ngl

[dim sentinel]

Right now i am having trouble with lag when replacing blocks of specifi types.

[upbeat barn]

So the issue is just optimization then

[dim sentinel]

Like things that loaded in 30 seconds in 1.20.10 take 20+minutes to load now

Yes it is an optimization issue.

[sly forge]

unfortunately Molang is unoptimized for what ur doing

[dim sentinel]

Just looking for ideas.

[sly forge]

its even worse for 3-plane 2D perlin

as far as the monument issue goes, why not just have guardians spawn on prismarine in general

its cheaty and very abusable but itll work

or a structure in an ocean biome that has a spawner

[zealous sedge]

kill mojang

[dim sentinel]

My goal is to play skyblock as vanilla as possible without the need for chunkbase.

I have had that in the past. And it was alot of fun... I had a "semi hardcore" version where when you died you ended up on a new random island... so you would discover the world and the structures around you as you played. it felt alot more "alive" than other versions of skyblock.

People i played with pillared thousands of blocks over the void just to see what was around. we would figure out what biomes were what. use all the rules we know from normal minecraft to play normally.

There were sky villages... and other random things that were fun... Just trying to get that working again with the least amount of lag.

[sly forge]

as i mentioned ur probably better off with custom structures that resemble vanilla ones as much as possible

[dim sentinel]

For everything but the HCSS i am good with that

And the end portal.

[sly forge]

sorry but unless ur up to spending thousands of hours trying to precisely pinpoint where every vanilla structure generates by using random values ur out of luck

[sly forge]

HCSS?

[dim sentinel]

Hard coded structure spawns

[sly forge]

oh well

[dim sentinel]

IE guardians.. blaze, ECT

[sly forge]

thats every vanilla structure

besides maybe desert wells

[dim sentinel]

the list for structures without HCSS is really really long.

[sly forge]

trees

caves

ores

thats all i really know unless something major changed in this version (havent updated yet)

[dim sentinel]

Yeah... the list for things that have it is Witch huts, outposts. fortresses, ocean monuements.

[dim sentinel]

much more laggy.

[sly forge]

villages are hardcoded unfortunately

its stupid ik

[dim sentinel]

yeah but that isnt a structure spawn

[sly forge]

Java has the same problem without mod loaders

[dim sentinel]

IE in the game code there isnt a single block in the X-Z space that spawns unique monsters for it

[sly forge]

OHHH you mean like that, for mobs

nvm

[dim sentinel]

yeah strucure spawns...

[sly forge]

bastions are hardcoded and do have higher chances for piglins afaik

no guarantees on that one tho

[dim sentinel]

They are biome spawns

Not HCSS

[sly forge]

not like there's really a point to that either

[dim sentinel]

The brutes are world summoned.

That is different then structure spawn

[sly forge]

hmmm...

monuments u can use an explorer map

i dont think so for witch huts or outposts tho

do mansions have structure spawns?

[dim sentinel]

nope.

but they are fun to see in skyblock

[sly forge]

awh maan

geez honestly why couldnt Mojang have added a blacklist function or the ability to whitelist multiple blocks for single block features

[upbeat barn]

In Legends there is a blacklist feature 😔 Legends took all my gripes with Bedrock and fixes it there

[sly forge]

wish Mojang would add those things over to the game where the engine originated from

they dont pay enough attention to their main product lines where ALL their money is

[dim sentinel]

the love java and their other pet games... but seem to not really focus on bedrock much even though it is the money maker.

[sly forge]

ikr

[dim sentinel]

But i will tell you if you have not looked at API take a peak. it is getting there and it is in stable... unlike most of the other cool stuff.

[sly forge]

i’ll check it out when i have access to the world seed lol

i want that at minimum

[dim sentinel]

I dont think that is on the roadmap... doesnt have access to biomes either. just blocks and entities.

[sly forge]

actually it might be because Kayla asked about it at some point how the API would help worldgen in the future

[dim sentinel]

To me. the more i can do in JS and the less i have to do in molang.. the better

[sly forge]

i don’t like whats going on with molang

it feels a little messy sometimes

and it isn’t a complete language, it’s missing a few basic operators

it’s turing-complete but thats it

[dim sentinel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-instruction_set_computer

It is harder to make something not turning complete than turing complete.

[sly forge]

inputs a 2 in the machine code

[meager nymph]

Did 1.20.30 broke scatter features?

[summer iris]

Nope

They work for me

[undone lagoon]

how would you go about making a feature that generates the same as river clay

[sly forge]

uhh…block intersection?

[delicate granite]

All FAQ Tags

Tags

porn                   pretify
preview-loopback       priority-for-behaviors
priority-orderings     projectiles
promise                pv
pv                     q
q-list                 queries
query                  query-list
query.is_item_name_any query.scoreboard
question               question-detail```

brought to you by Bedrock Addons FAQ

Placement Passes

Placement passes can just be thought of as a named ordering for when placement of a feature rule’s target feature should occur. Nothing special occurs during a pass; it’s just a name.

The available passes are:

• pregeneration_pass
• first_pass
• before_underground_pass
• underground_pass
• after_underground_pass
• before_surface_pass
• surface_pass
• after_surface_pass
• before_sky_pass
• sky_pass
• after_sky_pass
• final_pass

Note that the pregeneration pass is reserved for carver features.

[delicate trench]

#bot-usage for future reference :)

[dim sentinel]

Sorry

[delicate trench]

No worries

[royal bison]

whats the biome tag for cherry biome?

[sly forge]

no idea

[royal bison]

its not documented on wiki

[delicate trench]

"mountains": {},
"monster": {},
"overworld": {},
"cherry_grove": {},
"bee_habitat": {}

[royal bison]

thank you!

[scenic kraken]

they removed the conditional lists ☠️

[meager nymph]

Wait what 💀💀💀

Bruh I need to remake entire addon 💀💀💀💀💀

[scenic kraken]

same

[meager nymph]

This is nightmare 💀

[scenic kraken]

☠️

[zealous sedge]

Does anyone know how to fix it?

[polar adder]

I HAVE a problem, it's not happening to me, can you help me?

[teal canyon]

Yo, new to world gen stuff, just wondering what is and isnt possible anymore

any info or vids are appreciated

[royal bison]

search on wiki.bedrock.dev, features category

[dense crow]

I have a problem
'minecraft:structure_template_feature', which is considered internal and thus not compatible with this engine version of the game.

[upbeat barn]

Update your min_engine_version to 1.20.20

[dense crow]

Thanks, I didn't read the Release Changelogs carefully

[solar seal]

Where do ya do that? I forget

[upbeat barn]

Your manifest.json

[solar seal]

"min_engine_version": [1, 16, 0]?

[upbeat barn]

Yerps

[solar seal]

Do I like, change it to 1 20 20 or…? I made this pack ages ago and kinda fogor

[upbeat barn]

Yep

[solar seal]

Thank you!

[glad forge]

I just copied a world from a realm but when I try to use /reload it won't let me

Why?

[dim sentinel]

Is there any list of the features out of experimental?

[upbeat barn]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/19545277817357-Minecraft-1-20-30-Bedrock-

[dim sentinel]

What about ones that were deprocated... because there are many that we can't access anymore

[upbeat barn]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/reference/content/featuresreference/examples/featuresintroduction#unsupported-features

[dim sentinel]

yeah i found that.

Talking with bud in another channel. trying to figure out what changed...

Previously we worked off of the old behavior packs that were distributed in bds. and would combine them in to 1 mega pack to figure out what structures there were. now some of those seem to be broken, but still in bds

[upbeat barn]

Broken how?

If I recall, 1.20.30 will not allow custom feature rule to place vanilla features

[dim sentinel]

aah

exactly as you said you cant place vanilla features...

BUT you can place some

[upbeat barn]

Ofc... Mojang moment

[dim sentinel]

So now to making custom features that look kinda like vanilla features...

[upbeat barn]

Do the ones that work have anything in common?

CC: @quartz tangle Is this intentional? Feature rules can place some vanilla features now rather than any

[dim sentinel]

I believe that the red ones are "no" the yellow ones are yes and the white ones are also yes

And i think the common denominator is that they are not "hard coded"

IE you can place any vanilla feature that is defined in molang in BDS. but you cannot place any that have not been converted to Molang. This may be an artifact of how behavior packs are loaded... IE it loads all the base behavior packs and if the vanilla feature is in json... then we have access. IE intended-ish

And there are some that dont have feature rules... Like nether ores for instance.

It is a bit all over the shop... so kinda typical.

[round cosmos]

@dim sentinel can you not place them through an aggregate? I think I saw someone mention that

[dim sentinel]

I do not believe so.

You could in 1.15 but not any more

[dim sentinel]

How do you get a block name...

[sly forge]

what r u trying to do?

[dim sentinel]

let block = player.dimension.getBlock({x:0,y:0,z:0})//returns block object https://stirante.com/script/server/1.5.0/classes/Block.html
let perm=block.permutation// this is a permuation
let perm.resolve(BlockNAmeRequired )// no object here has block name

See if a block is air

or not

ooh it is in block components...

just needed a few minutes to wake up...

Nevermind still looking

[sly forge]

just use

air

[dim sentinel]

Aah my problem is block.typeId is not in stable

[sly forge]

thats how yah do it lmao

[sly forge]

hmm

yh should probably be using 1.6.0-beta then

[dim sentinel]

no

I should not use betas unless i am doing something experimental

The answer of "just use betas" is why we had the bug where 1.20.30 couldn't load 1.1.0 ui

using betas is the last resort, not the first one... I teleportTry in my case

[sly forge]

true

i switched my addon over to using scripts only to find out that the component i need is in beta and that my dungeon rooms didn’t generate properly

[dim sentinel]

At this point i am pretty much done with betas.

[dim sentinel]

tryTeleport is also bugged... so to the very very ugly method of

for(let y = 60;  y<250;y++){
  if ((player.runCommand(`testforblock ${player.location.x, ${y} ${player.location.z} air`).successCount==0) && (player.runCommand(`testforblock ${player.location.x, ${y} ${player.location.z} air`).successCount>0)&& (player.runCommand(`testforblock ${player.location.x, ${y} ${player.location.z} air`).successCount>0)){
    player.teleport({x:centerBlock.x+offset[0],y:y+1,z:centerBlock.z+offset[1]})
  }
}

It is so ugly it breaks discord syntax highlighting...

[sly forge]

wrong

testforblock is no longer a valid command

ur gonna have to use new execute

“execute if block”

thats the new command

[dim sentinel]

It works

[scenic kraken]

and we already have getBlock

[sly forge]

wtf

its not supposed to work

[dim sentinel]

We dont have block.typeId though

we just have permutations

and that requries block.typeId

[scenic kraken]

const block = player.dimension.getBlock(x,y,z).typeId;

[dim sentinel]

In stable?

Not there in stable https://stirante.com/script/server/1.5.0/classes/Block.html

IE 1.5.0 I wanted to use that.

[scenic kraken]

no it's not stable

should be in the next version

[dim sentinel]

I dont use beta. because nobody else tests stable... and that is how bugs stayed in for 3 months.

[scenic kraken]

ye

but u can make an update if it's necessary

[dim sentinel]

yup when mojang fixes the bug with tryTeleport... or when block.typeId is added i will fix it

But until that actually is in production... i have horrible hacks

[scenic kraken]

xd

[dim sentinel]

but this method seems really reliable

[dim sentinel]

FYI. it is still command highlighted. I am not using /execute

[sly forge]

weird

very weird

[dim sentinel]

The /execute one is removed.

[sly forge]

because i used to use it and it didn’t work after 1.19 dropped

…oh wait it didn’t work cuz i implemented a more reliable block detect nvm

[dim sentinel]

No worries. this seems to be good enough for my cases. I tested 40 itterations and it does work.

Sorry for off topic realized I thought I was in the script chat

[sly forge]

its fine

[ivory pewter]

hiiiiiii , can you fix some issue in mc map

[delicate granite]

Your search for ***flower*** returned:

For more information on a result, use </wiki details:1051148733145952370>

(1) Double ***__Flower__*** Pot Example - Precise Interaction

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/blocks/precise-interaction#double-flower-pot-example

(2) Double ***__Flower__*** Pot Example - Precise Interaction

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/blocks/precise-interaction#top

(3) ... such as Shattered Savannas and ***__Flower__*** Forests, also allow for ... - Biomes

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/biomes#climates

(4) ... adding the Pigeonholes and Double ***__Flower__*** Pot blocks into the ... - Precise Interaction

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/blocks/precise-interaction#download-example-pack

(5) ... from ores to grass and ***__flower__***s, vegetation to granite or ... - Intro to World Generation

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/world-generation-intro#features-and-feature-rules

brought to you by Bedrock Addons FAQ

[zealous sedge]

Does anyone know how I can generate a temp that generates a column at > 0.5?

[dim sentinel]

Has anyone had issues with world generation features not happening on linux bds?

I have a windows BDS instance that it is working perfectly on... copy the settings over to linux and none of the stuff applies.

Works on android just fine... works on single player just fine. using only the feature rules in stable.

[sly forge]

huh…

i don’t use linux bds so i wouldn’t know

[dim sentinel]

So... this isn't related to world gen... no bps are loading in my install

[sly forge]

hmm…are content logs turned on?

or are they just not importing

[dim sentinel]

Well there is a bug

That if you have a specific set of file system settings it won't work

Kinda like how there is a bug where you can't export structures to OneDrive folders

[raw cedar]

Can anyone tell me if the Distribution

"y": "q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 1",

It works in the Nether, I don't think it's working

My structures are not showing

Small Structures were supposed to be appearing in the SoulSand valley

[sly forge]

send the full feature and feature rule

[raw cedar]

    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:structure_template_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "hiro:soul_feature"
        },
        "structure_name": "mystructure:soul",
        "adjustment_radius": 6,
        "facing_direction": "random",
        "constraints": {
       "grounded": {},
       "block_intersection": {
        "block_whitelist": [
          "minecraft:soul_soil",
          "minecraft:air"
        ]
      }
    }
  }
} ```

[raw cedar]

Feature

[sly forge]

send the rule too

[raw cedar]

    "format_version": "1.16.0",
    "minecraft:feature_rules": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "hiro:soul_feature_rule",
            "places_feature": "hiro:soul_feature"
        },
        "conditions": {
            "placement_pass": "surface_pass",
            "minecraft:biome_filter": {
                "test": "has_biome_tag",
                "value": "soulsand_valley"
            }
        },
       "distribution": {
            "scatter_chance": 20,
            "iterations": 1,
            
            "x": {
                "distribution": "uniform",
                "extent": [0, 16]
            },
        "y": "q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 1",
            "z": {
                "distribution": "uniform",
                "extent": [0, 16]
            }
        }
    }
} ```

[raw cedar]

Feature rule

[sly forge]

found it

ur format version is wrong

set it to 1.20.20 and set the manifest to 1.20.30

[raw cedar]

It's strange that I use this version format in my other Structures and everything is working perfectly in them

Even in the Nether

This structure stopped working

[sly forge]

and when was the last time you checked

[raw cedar]

The others are working

[raw cedar]

Today

[sly forge]

well change the format version anyways

its strange that any are working at all

[raw cedar]

I put the same code that I use in my structures, the same codes and only this one is not working

[sly forge]

.

[raw cedar]

What do I have to change to this format?

[sly forge]

just do it.

[sly forge]

1.20.20 it’s literally right there

[raw cedar]

My manifest is already at 1.20.30

It's not an error in the manifest

[sly forge]

CHANGE. FORMAT. TO. 1.20.20. IN. THE. FEATURE AND FEATURE. RULE.

[raw cedar]

Now this is how you explained

[sly forge]

do this and it will work

[raw cedar]

I'll try

[raw cedar]

still not working

[sly forge]

were those chunks already loaded

also turn content log GUI on

[raw cedar]

No, I created a new world

[sly forge]

and make sure ur using the development behavior packs folder

[raw cedar]

No error log

[raw cedar]

Yes

I'm using

[sly forge]

how tall is the structure

[raw cedar]

2

[sly forge]

is it an entity

[raw cedar]

No

is a Structure, 2 blocks high

[sly forge]

are you sure the content log GUI is turned on? double check

[raw cedar]

No error log

[sly forge]

i said double check to see if the log is turned on

[raw cedar]

You're really shit

I'm saying that there is no error record

[sly forge]

well there cant be one if its turned off

just do what i asked

make sure its turned on

because you may have thought you turned it on but didn’t

[raw cedar]

for your happiness

I hung up

I logged in

I created a new world

And it still doesn't work

[raw cedar]

I'm not new to creating addons friend, I know there is error content

OK? If I'm saying there are no mistakes

It's because there are no errors

[sly forge]

you took a whole ass roundabout way of answering a yes or no question

[raw cedar]

No error is appearing, the code is correct

[raw cedar]

I live with the error code on, it's never off

My god friend

[sly forge]

i cant assume that with anyone because assuming someone has them on is stupid

anyways does the structure use custom blocks

[raw cedar]

I'm not new to addons, you're talking as if I were a Neanderthal

[sly forge]

i want you to be straightforward so we can find the problem now seriously just answer my questions

[raw cedar]

The structure is made up of two customized blocks, 2 tall and 1 by 1 wide.

[sly forge]

any experiments enabled?

[raw cedar]

This is my only Structure in the Nether that is not working, the other Structures that contain custom blocks are working perfectly

[raw cedar]

Yes friend, the addon is working for a reason

If I had turned it off I would have millions of log content errors

[sly forge]

…once again i cant assume that either because i don’t know anything about the addon

[raw cedar]

What's wrong is that you're asking questions that have nothing to do with the subject

[sly forge]

it has EVERYTHING to do with it

[raw cedar]

If I'm saying that this Framework isn't working, why the hell are you asking about active experiments?

Everything in my addon is working, just this Structure that is not generating

The other Structures are generating perfectly

[raw cedar]

I just want help with the problem man

How do you say something has to do with what it could be?

[sly forge]

ive been having issues with structures not loading via import recently, can you place another structure using the same feature rule to check?

[raw cedar]

This Structure has the same code as other My Structures

With the version format you asked to change

[sly forge]

im asking this for a reason

[raw cedar]

The format less than 1.20.30

[sly forge]

the structure block has also been a bit buggy recently

[raw cedar]

And they work

[raw cedar]

I will test here

Because I've been using the same addon for the structure block for months

[sly forge]

just try using these files with a different structure thats not supposed to generate in the soul sand valleys

it can help narrow down the problem

the structure block issue only started happening for me when 1.20.31 dropped so months doesnt necessarily mean anything

[raw cedar]

I think the error must be in exporting the Structure via Structure block

[sly forge]

yh that’s probably it then

[raw cedar]

Two other Structures that I updated yesterday are also not generating

[sly forge]

re-export them

then ur problem should be solved

man Mojang needs to fix structure blocks

[raw cedar]

When I use /Structure load they appear but they are not generating in the game

[sly forge]

hell you cant edit animation time if you already have an animation time in it

[raw cedar]

If it's not working with the Structure I created today, what's the point of re-exporting it again?

[sly forge]

because if its a structure export problem it’ll possibly be fixed

[raw cedar]

It will be? So what do I do??

[sly forge]

just do what you did to export the structure before

[raw cedar]

Do I enter the world and export the Structures again? I'm on version 1.20.32

[sly forge]

except use a new structure block

[raw cedar]

New?

[sly forge]

yes just break it and place it back down

[raw cedar]

Ahhh, I thought you were talking about downloading another Structure file

[sly forge]

no lol

just export it again to the same structure folder you did before

[raw cedar]

I'll test it here again

[raw cedar]

well, two of the Structures returned to generate

I still can't find an underground structure

The structure of the Nether for some mysterious reason

It is only being generated outside the SoulSand valley biome, in the soul sand valley it is not generating

I don't know what it could be, but from the test I did only in SoulSand valley, the Structure does not generate

[sly forge]

is the tag correct?

[raw cedar]

Yes

[sly forge]

hmm…

i can’t get to my pc rn, did you check if the block ID for soul soil is correct

[delicate trench]

q.heightmap in the nether puts features on the nether roof. You have to use uniform distribution with a snap to surface feature instead.

So your y distribution should look something like:

"y": {
    "distribution": "uniform",
    "extent": [
        31,
        111
    ]
}```
And instead of pointing directly to the structure feature, point to a snap to surface feature with `surface` set to floor and `feature_to_snap` set to `hiro:soul_feature`.

You can look at this example if you've never worked with snap to surface before (though keep in mind the wiki's format versions are outdated and will need to be changed)
https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/feature-types.html#snap-to-surface-features

[raw cedar]

thanks

[sly forge]

ugh...

@muted ether wasnt there a way to guarantee a certain amount of space between structures?

[delicate trench]

You mean supertiling?

[sly forge]

whats that

[delicate trench]

It's a simple cell system you can use to link all the coordinates in each cell to values unique to that cell

Super handy, I use it all the time

You set it up by flooring the x and z coords divided by whatever you want the cell size to be. Then you multiply them by that size value and they're all linked to the relative origin of that cell.

[sly forge]

im wanting to guarantee at least 1000 blocks between these dungeons

[sly forge]

using math.floor?

[delicate trench]

Yes, what else? lol

[sly forge]

hmm

but wait...

from how im reading this ur saying to divide by the number and then multiply the floor values by the same number

also doesnt this mean theyll always appear at set coordinates?

because i still want them to generate randomly, i dont want set coordinates

[delicate trench]

How big are your dungeons?

Or rather, what's their maximum potential size?

[sly forge]

generally they dont go further than 300 blocks but the maximum is 3795 blocks

thats if its all one straight hall with no interruptions

but i dont want these to always appear at a factor of, say, 1000 in the coordinates scale

[delicate trench]

They won't

[sly forge]

hmm...

[delicate trench]

But that size variability is kind of annoying

If 1000's what you want though, I'll stick with that

[sly forge]

xork that possibility is nearly impossible to happen

i just want 1000 because THESE can run into eachother

plus its supposed to be a very rare structure

[delicate trench]

Dude I'm not making a big deal out of this, give me one min and I'll get the system I sent Grimm, I've already made a bare-bones for this before lol

[sly forge]

im not either lmao

[delicate trench]

The "tower" equivalent is a gold block that generates at y 200. I went with a cell size of 1024 because multiples of 16 are easier to work with.

Oh right I should ping
@sly forge

[sly forge]

ty

[sly forge]

does scatter chance work with this

[delicate trench]

Technically yes. But it's better to assign a chance value to each cell.

Scatter chance doesn't work well with multiple features that are supposed to be placed in the same cell across different chunks, cuz one could be placed and other might not be.

[sly forge]

how do i go about this

[delicate trench]

You'll have to use a psuedorandom function that takes in the cell's x and z as an input, since math.random differs across chunks. You could just use another q.noise call with differently scaled parameters if you don't feel like making a hash function from scratch.

And in the scatter's return value, check if that chance value is lower than (or equal to, optional) the chance you've set

[sly forge]

hmm...

and can i use scatter chance if im not generating another feature?

[delicate trench]

Yeah, since (I assume) your tower is one structure you can use scatter chance

[sly forge]

yh its one structure, but it might end up having variants later on

depending on biome generated in

[mellow forge]

can I modify vanilla feature rules like ore features?

[thin fox]

Yeah

[dull orchid]

I need help

I have an addon called deadzone that the structures are not generated, I have already changed the minimum version of the engine to 1.20.20 and 1.20.30 and it still does not work even with the conditional list in the features rules codes, can anyone help me?

[sly forge]

send the feature and feature rule of one of the structures

[round cosmos]

Or any content log errors ^^

[dull orchid]

No errors appear, literally they do not appear, they are not generated and I have already spoken to several people but there is no way.

Yes one moment

Feature rule

@sly forge

[sly forge]

no

not screenshots

send the feature and feature rule

send the physical file

[dull orchid]

Archive?

[dull orchid]

ok

One moment

example

@sly forge

[sly forge]

1. ur format versions are wrong

2. ur using "all_of" incorrectly, thats used to pin a certain biome which there isnt a single biome with all those tags

also how large is the structure

[dull orchid]

It didn't come with the addon

What version format do I put? and in what files in both?

[dull orchid]

where?

[sly forge]

1.20.20

and set the manifest to 1.20.30

[dull orchid]

shit how did I know

[sly forge]

all_of says the biome has to have ALL the tags, use any_of

[dull orchid]

it's already changed

[dull orchid]

Regarding this, what should I do just remove all off?

[sly forge]

change it to any_of

[dull orchid]

yes but where in feature rules and where exactly

[sly forge]

i just showed you

just change all to any

its not that hard

[dull orchid]

oh I saw

#w?

[scenic kraken]

@dull orchid
all_of: todas las condiciones se deben cumplir
any_of: cualquiera de las condiciones

[dull orchid]

Halo, what are you doing here?

hi

ya me iban a funar

[scenic kraken]

reading other cannels

[dull orchid]

ah ok

[dull orchid]

@sly forge

[sly forge]

good

[dull orchid]

Nothing remains the same, I just created a world and it is the same

XD

I put all that in all the feature rules

[dull orchid]

good no xd

mojang what the hell did you do

[sly forge]

did you change the feature format version too

[dull orchid]

feature too?

[sly forge]

negative numbers dont work properly for extent

remove extent entirely and use 0

use scatter chance,m and put numerator as 1

1250 as the denominator should be ok

[dull orchid]

one moment

what are you talking about?

[sly forge]

scatter_chance

[dull orchid]

none of the features and features rules files have anything like that

[sly forge]

wrong

ur using a molang value atm

im suggesting using the other way, which allows things to be even rarer

[dull orchid]

I already saw it, I'm damn blind xD

[dull orchid]

Ok, what should I put there then?

[sly forge]

https://bedrock.dev/

read

[dull orchid]

💀

[scenic kraken]

lol

[dull orchid]

is it worth 1250 in each feature rule?

[dull orchid]

why lol? He only ordered me to read more than 500 lines xD

[sly forge]

1250 is relatively rare, youll see them decently often but it wont be crazy

remember thats the denominator

[dull orchid]

I mean then there couldn't be another way for them to appear?

[sly forge]

1250 is rarer than having an int value of 1

1 is 1/100

1/1250 is…well…1/1250

my addon is set to 1/3000 and also uses supertiling so my dungeons are pretty rare

[dull orchid]

ok

[dull orchid]

I'm going to test if they finally spawn

[dull orchid]

nothing, there is no way for them to appear@sly forge

[sly forge]

idk then

[dull orchid]

What is idk?

[sly forge]

try re-exporting the structure

structure blocks have been having problems recently

[dull orchid]

buff and how do I do that?

I've never done

[sly forge]

…by exporting the structure

[sly forge]

if youve never exported the structure no wonder it wont generate

[dull orchid]

but where is that done from within the world?

[sly forge]

if you don’t know how to use a structure block im not helping

[dull orchid]

okay

how do I do this

[dull orchid]

I don't understand what you mean by this, what you want me to do is import them into a world and take out the structures again?

[sly forge]

no

use the world you built the structure in

just replace the structure block and export the structure

[dull orchid]

em, it's not my addon, it's one that I downloaded and am modifying, it's called deadzone

[sly forge]

then idk i cant help you

[errant quiver]

anyone know why this is happening??

[sly forge]

ur format version probably isn’t set to 1.20.20

[errant quiver]

where are you getting this information. Every source of documation i go to doesn't speak of this

[sly forge]

it should be listed on bedrock.dev

i was getting that info straight off the 1.20.30 changelogs

[errant quiver]

every example is 1.13

[errant quiver]

wheere

[sly forge]

…the 1.20.30 changelogs

do you not read them

[errant quiver]

i dont even know where they are at or heard of them

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-1-20-30-update-now-available-bedrock

theres nothing here about the format version for features

[sly forge]

there is

see where it says the feature stuff was ported to stable?

scroll down from there

go to the items section

see where everything there was released or deprecated in format version 1.20.20 and higher?

thats how you know unless you kept up with preview changelogs

[errant quiver]

this is the only thing there

[errant quiver]

i see where this is but it said nothing about the features

regardless my pack doesnt even work anymore

[sly forge]

if something is released in a format of something or higher generally thats how it is for EVERYTHING released into stable for that version

[errant quiver]

so should they all be set to 1.20.30

since thats where its stable

?

[sly forge]

1.20.20

[errant quiver]

why 1.20.20

i thought they didnt come out till 1.20.30

any way to remove the default trees entirely?

im getting weird generation like this too

and my birch trees do not spawn in the birch forest despite the content logs not saying there is an error

my oak trees are spawning in the birch forest biome despite only being specified to spawn in the forest

[sly forge]

because a birch forest is still a forest

thats not how tags work silly

[errant quiver]

🥹 how do tags work

im still new to deving

[sly forge]

a biome tag means itll spawn in biomes with that tag

for example if you want ur structure to spawn anywhere except mushroom biomes you could use the monster tag

[sly forge]

if you want it to spawn in forests you select forest

[errant quiver]

how do i get the birch trees to spawn in only the birch forest

and the oak trees to spawn in only the oak forest

[sly forge]

you can view tags of different biomes in BDS files under definitions

[errant quiver]

where 😭

[sly forge]

BDS files

yk

bedrock dedicated server

[errant quiver]

i dont know 😭

[sly forge]

are you on pc

[errant quiver]

yeah

[sly forge]

ok go to WindowsApps

its in the program files folder under C:/

[errant quiver]

o

[errant quiver]

i dont have that folder

[sly forge]

wtf

what are you using

wait do you have hidden folders turned on

[errant quiver]

i am way out of my element

[sly forge]

turn hidden folders on and you should be fine

unless you also have developer mode disabled

[errant quiver]

i have hidden folders on now

but i cant open it

[sly forge]

.

[errant quiver]

i dont have it disabled

[errant quiver]

oh well

i figured out how biome tags work. I'm just wondering if its possible to removal all default trees

without experimental features

[hard cipher]

How do chest items not disappear on servers and realms?

Don't the items just disappear if you add the structure by command?

[sly forge]

uhh no? if the chest had a loot table added itll randomized

and if theres stuff already in the chest itll save

[hard cipher]

The loot was saved in the structure, however when loading on servers the chest is empty, on a private map it appears normally, on servers the loot only appears when I use the command to load the structure

[dull orchid]

Isn't there some way for them to reproduce?

I will explain my situation again, I have an addon that I am modifying and the structures are not generated, I changed the conditional list and several things like the min engine version and format version, but it still does not work, would anyone know how I can fix it?
@sly forge

[sly forge]

if ur using aternos thats ur problem

[hard cipher]

But in realms it also happens

[sly forge]

then it wasn’t saved properly ig

or its a BDS problem

[zealous sedge]

@delicate trench Sorry for the ping but do you know if the same condition can be set from the same scatter feature?

Is it possible to directly put the feature that is going to be generated and the cell that is going to be used there?

[dull orchid]

server pro is the best free minecraft hosting

or Easy Minecraft Hosting is very nuce

Nice*

[errant quiver]

is it possible to add a loot table to a structure with chests in world generation?

[sly forge]

yes and it has been for some time now

check out the bedrock.dev wiki

[errant quiver]

a custom structure?

[sly forge]

yes?

you just asked that

[errant quiver]

hm

well i know nothing about loot tables and i dont have time to figure it it out

[sly forge]

.

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/

[raw cedar]

         "minecraft:sandstone", "data": 2
        ], ```

- does this mob spawn filter work???

[upbeat barn]

Thats not how arrays work

[raw cedar]

Array???

[royal bison]

Array is when you use [ ]

"minecraft:spawns_on_block_filter": [
            {
         "minecraft:sandstone",
         "data": 2
             }
        ], ```

try that

[scenic kraken]

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/guide/understanding-json.html

[raw cedar]

P Why are you tagging me in this?

[sly forge]

because its in response to your message

dUh

[raw cedar]

What message, I don't remember asking for anything

[sly forge]

you literally asked about arrays

[raw cedar]

I hadn't asked for anything about the array, I had just said array because I hadn't understood what the guy was trying to say.

It wasn't a question

[sly forge]

i mean if you know what arrays are it should be pretty obvious

[scenic kraken]

burh

u have ur response

in the link

what's an array

[brittle dove]

h

[scenic kraken]

i

[still wing]

hi

[sly forge]

uhhh…how do i prevent structures from getting cut again?

[sly forge]

@delicate trench do you know? (pinging because i wanna post this patch tonight)

[delicate trench]

Yeah I found the problem, but unfortunately because of time I'm not gonna have a solution by "tonight"

If you want to figure it out yourself, it has to do with the return expression. Maybe start by subtracting 16 from it. That's not gonna do it outright, but maybe it'll point you in the right direction. I don't have time right now.

[sly forge]

ok

[sly forge]

is the return expression the one with 688 in it

i take the silence as a yes

[royal talon]

Can you remove… biomes?

[sly forge]

nope

cant change biome placement or make custom biomes

[royal talon]

You can’t make custom biomes?

[sly forge]

nope

[royal bison]

only simulate them with noise

[dull orchid]

mojang didn't return the damn conditional list

the structures haven't spawn

[zealous sedge]

Yeah

And using scatter is a pain ☠️

[dull orchid]

💀

[royal bison]

Devs said they were going to bring it back

when? I dont know, maybe the same time it takes to resolve the entities in the structures? maybe

[raw cedar]

What are the codes to generate Structures in the oceans?

[royal bison]

feature rules, has_biome_tag, ocean

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/743582501292867585.webp?size=48

[raw cedar]

It is not that simple

Does anyone know how to make the Structure generate at the bottom of the ocean? like the ruins of the Ocean

[royal bison]

simple question, simple answer

[royal bison]

thats more specific, you need to use query.heightmap in the feature rule for that

[raw cedar]

I tried using this query and it didn't work

[royal bison]

it generate on top of water?

[raw cedar]

No

Generate ruins like oceans

Ruins

[royal bison]

I know you want to generate ruins, but what happen when you use query.heightmap?

[raw cedar]

Nothing, I can't even find the Structure

[royal bison]

hmm, I dont know what type of placement pass you need to use for ocean structures

[royal bison]

try using query.above_top_solid instead of query.heightmap

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/structure-features.html#underwater-structure

@raw cedar I found this xd

[zealous sedge]

Sex

[sly forge]

…

[zealous sedge]

XD

[sly forge]

grabs knife, chops off ur reproductive organs

[zealous sedge]

Open your ass

[sly forge]

nO

[zealous sedge]

Yeah

I show you the very powerful 24cm

[scenic kraken]

[old sapphire]

how do i generate a village ? (custom houses, roads etc)
new to world gen

[thin fox]

You can't exactly do that

But if you get creative you can make something close to a village

[old sapphire]

isn't there any way to generate structures side by side ?

[sly forge]

command blocks

scripts

entities

there’s quite a few

[thin fox]

But there's nothing straightforward like vanilla villages

[lethal heath]

Is there a way to make my biome extend all the way down to y -60

[lethal heath]

I beg of thee

[sly forge]

its not possible to make custom biomes

[thin fox]

I think they mean a feature-based biome

[sly forge]

no way to actually know if they don’t respond

and i wouldn’t assume that as most of em mean actual biomes

[thin fox]

They talked about it before

[sly forge]

oh hmm

[lethal heath]

It's not actually a custom biome

[lethal heath]

It's a custom biome that just replaces the jungle biome

But I want it to extend deeper

[sly forge]

so ur wanting like an underground jungle, basically?

honestly idk

[lethal heath]

Well, it's actually gonna be a custom block that damages you when you stand on it unless you Crouch (so functionally a magma block) all the way down till you hit deepslate at which point it becomes a sort of gravel cave? But the second part isnt super important

[sly forge]

still pretty much the same thing

[lethal heath]

Yeah

Idc if I have to use features or whatever to do it tho

[sly forge]

i think there’s a way in the biome file

i just can’t remember what the component was

something about “base material” and “mid material” or something

[lethal heath]

Oh yeah that

There is a depth limit for that

I can't get the "foundation material" (the bottom one) to keep going past like 20 blocks

[sly forge]

hmm

what was that old one from the onion institute…

they did exactly what ur wanting

though its really old

[lethal heath]

I see...

[lethal heath]

Do you happen to have a copy of it?

[lethal heath]

Nvm I found it

[worthy lynx]

Hello, can someone confirm for me if structures are not generated in the soul sand valley? I'm trying to generate my structure there and it doesn't work.

[olive ridge]

are itterations in scatter features evaluated every itteration?

@sly forge

[sly forge]

idk

[olive ridge]

f

[sly forge]

i don’t really mess with them

[delicate trench]

Yes

[olive ridge]

oh no

now I must scramble to update my template

[eager echo]

Is it possible to overwrite or replace vanilla biomes with custom ones?

Not only biomes but also the cave system and ect..

[sly forge]

to a point

[eager echo]

which point

[sly forge]

some things cant be changed

[eager echo]

such as?

i need as much info as possibile to see if my project is possible

[sly forge]

biome placement

temperature

etc

[eager echo]

i need all the vanilla biomes to be replaced

the vanilla cold biomes can become the custom cold biome

[sly forge]

i didn’t say you couldn’t replace the features

[eager echo]

it's fine if they are randomized

[sly forge]

i said you cant modify where they generate

[eager echo]

oh

[eager echo]

what about the cave system can it be overwritten and how do you change their shape?

[sly forge]

no

[upbeat barn]

🤨 Does v.worldz and v.worldz not work anymore?

[raw cedar]

How do I fix this

The structure does not generate on the floor of the Ocean biome

Either you're floating or you're underground

I wanted vanilla minecraft style

[raw cedar]

There's no one in this chat, how depressing

[soft turtle]

How can i make a structure spawn just one time?

[misty pivot]

I'm pretty sure that error was here before 1.20.40. I just ignored it, as my custom generation worked...at least until they stopped generating after 1.20.40.

[royal bison]

use query.heightmap

thats the unic method

[raw cedar]

I'm already using

and it's not working

[royal bison]

uh

[royal bison]

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/structure-features.html#underwater-structure

maybe this helps

[raw cedar]

Dude, I'm using the codes from the website

It's just generating like this

            "iterations": 1,
            "x": {
                "extent": [0, 16],
                "distribution": "uniform"
            },
            "y": "q.above_top_solid(v.worldx, v.worldz)",
            "z": {
                "extent": [0, 16],
                "distribution": "uniform"
            },
            "scatter_chance": {
                "numerator": 1,
                "denominator": 25
            }
        }
    }
}

[royal bison]

I dont know then, sorry

[olive ridge]

is structure_template_feature dead, or is there an alternative?

[royal bison]

it works for me (stable 1.20.41)

[surreal knoll]

Is it normal that structure_template_feature features load in relatively late? (like the world only seems to notice they even register that it was supposed to spawn the tree within 4-5 chunks around the player).
Testing out a addon I saw on mcpedl (Nature's Spirit), but the trees seem to load in really late 🤔
(stuff like flowers that are placed with single_block_feature seem to be generate without issues).

To be fair, the same problem happens with other packs too, so I guess it's a general problem, but just asking in case anyways.
(please ping when you reply)

[surreal knoll]

there is guides/docs in the pinned messages

[modern pewter]

Where can I get the updates features files?

[modern pewter]

I updated features files from latest apk. 1.20.40, I updated minimum version to 1.20.40 but I get these errors all over. Can't place internal feature type

[upbeat barn]

You sure you manifest.json min engine version is set to 1.20.40?

[modern pewter]

I simply want to make giant trees. but I either crash the game or get odd errors. But yeah. I'm on 1.20.40. I tried changing all feature and feature rules format versions to 1.20.40 too. If I delete all the vanilla feature rules then the errors go away.

[modern pewter]

Even if all I do is change the tree stats nothing seems to happne. Any advice.

[upbeat barn]

Huh, I think that if youre editing vanilla features its not allowed anymore. You can edit the rules but no the features

[modern pewter]

So I add my own feature to replace vanilla l. I simply want large tree. How would you suggest the correct SOP for that. Ive never even see a addon for them. i assume they are not possible..

[upbeat barn]

https://github.com/SmokeyStack/smokey_gen

[modern pewter]

What is this? the templates

[upbeat barn]

No, just an example addon that uses the VANILLA feature rules and places CUSTOM features

[modern pewter]

Thanks, I was going the wrong way, trying to use the vanilla features and just change them. I'll try the other way. Were you able to change tree sizes?

[upbeat barn]

Yes, you can make a custom tree features that has the configs you want, find the vanilla feature rule that places the vanilla tree, change the rule to place your feature instead

[modern pewter]

Great thats my goal today.

Someone said I could also place mcstructures is that still in exp mode?

[delicate trench]

That’s in stable now

[modern pewter]

Are there any guides. The wiki seem pretty outdate on the subject.

[delicate trench]

The example feature on the wiki still works, as long as you update the format version. Telling the game how to place it works the same as any other feature. Facing direction should be south if you don’t want random because other orientations affect how the game orders placement positions.

Lateral boundaries of any single feature are 48x48, or a 3x3 radius around the chunk where placement starts. To get the full 48x48 boundary you have to make sure the structure is placed at x and z values of -16.

Example feature btw https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/feature-types.html#structure-template-features

[modern pewter]

hmm, most of these tree structures are 64x64x64 because thats the structure limit and we wanted as big as we could. Is there a way scale or still use these with out having to redo them?

[modern pewter]

I can only seem to get really small things to spawn in. Even without any log errors I wish if an structure was too big it would say something.

I don't understand this setting

[upbeat barn]

Seems like youre overstepping the boundaries for the adjustment radius

[modern pewter]

0,16 are only options. Do I miss understand that setting, you were saying 48x48

I can get 1 very samll house to spawn. But thats it

[modern pewter]

I was more asking what is adjustment_radius if it can only be 0,16?

[upbeat barn]

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/feature-types.html

[modern pewter]

Thank you.

[modern pewter]

What options would you suggest to get a dense forest?

[modern pewter]

Is this in the structure when I make it or in the feature rule?

the -16

[modern pewter]

I got some structures in but there are alot I can't figure why don't show up.

[modern pewter]

What are the suggested block_allowlist for trees and replacing softblocks.

    "block_intersection": {
        "block_allowlist": [
            {
                "name": "minecraft:air"
            },
            {
                "name": "minecraft:leaves"
            },
            {
                "name": "minecraft:leaves2"
            },
            {
                "name": "minecraft:dirt"
            },
            {
                "name": "minecraft:grass"
            },
            {
                "name": "minecraft:tallgrass"
            },
            {
                "name": "minecraft:yellow_flower"
            },
            {
                "name": "minecraft:red_flower"
            },
            {
                "name": "minecraft:log"
            },
            {
                "name": "minecraft:double_plant"
            },
            {
                "name": "minecraft:log2"
            },
            {
                "name": "minecraft:sapling"
            }
        ]
    }
}```

What am I missing?

For Y how would I get the lowest point instead of the highest? I'm having issue with large strucutures with foundations spawning in with grounded.

[modern pewter]

For example say I want a tree to be placed in the bottom of a valley, or the lowest point of the terrain.

[sly forge]

anything thats dirt

anything thats leaves

anything else is really unnecessary tbh

[modern pewter]

I'm trying to get some 64x64 stuff places and I just wont do it with grounded on

[sly forge]

you can’t generate a 64x64 structure at all actually, not without using command blocks

and for something like that you can’t really ever guarantee itll be in a completely flat spot

it’s almost impossible to find a place THAT flat in Minecraft

[modern pewter]

Maybe I'm missing something but as far I can tell they gen just fine just not grouned.

[modern pewter]

Do you have a link to the docs where the limits are? I haven't been able to find anything

[sly forge]

48x384x48

[modern pewter]

How do you know that?

[sly forge]

uhm…its common knowledge?

[sly forge]

i want to do something crazy

i want to add the farlands back in (ive done it by accident before but not on the y axis)

and then i want to add in new terrain beyond them

i was thinking of an addon name called “worlds beyond” and thats what i came up with

another thing i thought of is putting a border around a certain radius of the overworld and having 8 border worlds beyond it

[misty pivot]

That would be cool. Would that be possible tho?

[sly forge]

possible is an understatement

[modern pewter]

After addin heaven in the game now I have random vanilla underwater features floating half way in the sky. I have not changes any vanilla stuff. they aren't grounded as they are floating half way between the water and my heaven features. Any idea why ocean features would be doign this?

[modern pewter]

Here is an example

[modern pewter]

Is there a limit to how high a mountain will generate in vanilla?

[upbeat barn]

256

[modern pewter]

Can I change that. Or is that in the biome side of things?

My heaven realm is visible around 160. So it would be nice to flat down the top mountains just a little. I wish I could move the water to 0. But I want this to be a endless map and custom water level would mean a custom limited map, in my understanding

[upbeat barn]

🤷 Not sure, I doubt you can change vanilla biomes anymore

[modern pewter]

So mountain hight is in the biome settings.

Sorry, I don't know what controls what in world gen.

[sly forge]

are any of your islands above it?

if not its probably just vanilla as this happens all the time lol

structure gen in bedrock has been broken for a long time

[sly forge]

its biome, you cant change it sadly

the only way around it is custom terrain

[sly forge]

some things can still be changed but it cant affect terrain or biome placement

[royal bison]

how can I set my structure that is generated by an aggregate and scatter feature his own height on the terrain, because it takes the height from the feature rule even if I use query.heightmap on the scatter

[olive ridge]

why is only the first feature placing?

[sly forge]

format version is wrong for one thing

[olive ridge]

bruh

gotta love how the game doesn't even compalin

pos

[sly forge]

the proper format for features and feature rules is 1.20.20

i can’t guarantee it’ll completely fix this tho

[royal bison]

solved

[modern pewter]

yeah heaven is generating in the sky at 310

https://youtu.be/Ft-_fr-u8-A

[sly forge]

might be the problem lol

[modern pewter]

Sure. But any reason why.

What do I change in them to stop it?

[sly forge]

cant really stop it unfortunately, not possible to change vanilla structure spawning, u might be able to get away with heaven not generating over oceans

but that will definitely look weird

[modern pewter]

bummer. maybe I can disable it somehow.

[modern pewter]

If I have a flat map. Can I generate custom features on it?

[upbeat barn]

No

[modern pewter]

Thats a bummer

[modern pewter]

So you can start with a flat map then turn on generation in nbt/map editor. So that works. My problem is it overwrites by flat map content. So I now need to figure out how to turn off vanilla featrues

[modern pewter]

Are there any filters for world gen based on the age of the world. For example in first 100 days I want medievil gen, but at 200 days I want modern world. 300 days space age....

[delicate trench]

You can’t re-generate a chunk after it’s been loaded, if that’s what you’re asking

[modern pewter]

It's been doing it for me when I'm using custom features. I change the features or rules reload map updates with out moving or loading new areas.

[delicate trench]

Probably something to do with what's being saved (e.g., some chunks couldn't save properly). But it's not supposed to work like that, so don't rely on it.

[modern pewter]

But there no known way to just stop something vanilla from generating. Say I want to stop all vanilla trees.

[upbeat barn]

Besides just setting the feature rules to generate in no existent biomes?

[modern pewter]

that perfect.

So I can change the rules but not the features? Or some of the rules

I'm having a hard time knowing what I can and can't do

[upbeat barn]

Just set the biome filter in the feature rules to point to a nonexistent biome tag

[modern pewter]

Perfect. What about land. Anyway to stop land generation since biomes are broken?

Someone asked for a water world which I have but it has no generation on it. If I can turn off the vanilla land I can fix that.

[soft turtle]

how i can run a biome.json for 5 minecraft days???

[thin fox]

What

[soft turtle]

@thin fox I have this file and I want to know if it's possible to run in for 5 Minecraft days and after to stop

[modern pewter]

me too

but with features

[soft turtle]

???

[modern pewter]

I have the same questions but I know biomes are a mess. I want to generate a feature for 100 days then stop. Then generate a diffrent feature after 100 days..

[thin fox]

Well biomes are set in stone after being generated

[sly forge]

his issue is shipwrecks

those are not exposed iirc

[modern pewter]

no but i do need to turn of ships. They are floating if I have heaven above them.

Even though heaven is at 310. For some reason they avg it and end up in the sky.

[sly forge]

wait i WAS right

confus

[modern pewter]

welcome to my world.

When I added Heaven in with features and rules. Some vanilla stuff I find in the middle of the sky floating mainly ship wrecks and some ocean gen stuff. Not much just 2-3 so it's fine. Just odd.

[sly forge]

floating shipwrecks is normal tho, but i haven’t seen what ur looking at so idk if it’s normal broken bedrock worldgen or if its actually your addon

you can try the same seed without the pack and go to the same coordinates

thatll tell you

[modern pewter]

#1067870310055022672 message

example.

Started after I added this. #1067870310055022672 message

[raw cedar]

silly little question

What is interactions and scatter change

Scatter chance is the chance to appear in the world, right?

While interactions is the number of things close to the same thing

I'm trying to find a good pattern

[sly forge]

correction: iterations is how many times a feature has a chance to generate in a chunk (16x16x384 is maximum)

scatter chance is the chance it will evaluate an iteration

[compact crescent]

how do i make a scatter feature generate more than one feature?

[upbeat barn]

Increase the iterations?

[compact crescent]

what? i meant more that one different feature, like multiple feature files

or how to make one feature rule control multiple features, it doesn't matter

[delicate trench]

If you want a feature to place multiple other features, you'd use an aggregate feature. Check this link for documentation:
https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/feature-types.html#aggregate-features

[olive ridge]

does anyone know if features can place a new block after they've already placed a block in the same spot?

[sly forge]

…i don’t think so, at least its not supposed to