World Generation General

[mild stratus]

not even Elektrika can do that, i don't think you can....maybe something more simple ? 🤔

[hushed rivet]

Electrika is your base…?

[mild stratus]

but like....he's just getting started ? While Elektrika had been an addon creator for longer.

even then he can't do things such as splines for example.

[hushed rivet]

And eletrika can…?

[delicate trench]

Once again, it’s all about what people are willing to learn. Do I even need to elaborate at this point? :/

[sly forge]

it turns out Flakey’s worldgen doesn’t 100% work properly, especially since the terrain is entirely multinoise so its pretty inefficient

however Chungus figured out biomes within a couple days on his own when he hadn’t even gotten used to worldgen yet, he’s pretty smart

[olive ridge]

wtf why is it placing like this

[soft turtle]

this was sent to me by zalcyan ....... I'm confused with your question. Theres only the "the_end" 'biome'? Are you talking about the chunk cuts in the first two images? If so, his is an old structure bug. The "facing_direction": "random" component is responsible for cutting parts off. One potential way to fix this is to set the direction (such as south instead of "random") . If you really want the structure to still rotate randomly, another way is this: ⁠old-world-generation⁠ by Ciosciaa. You will have to have the archival roles active to see the message. I just read your other comments in General. If you are trying to get multiple biomes to generate, you need to divide up your noise into chunks. For example using "q.noise(v.originx / 512, v.originz / 512) > 0.5" will place the biome over 1/4th of the End, where the noise is between 0.5 and 1 (noise ranges from -1 to 1). "q.noise(v.originx / 512, v.originz / 512) > 0.5 && q.noise(v.originx / 512, v.originz / 512) < 0.75" will place the biome over 1/8th of the end. This is the simplest way. Of course, this will make biomes whose noise range is near 0 more linear. To counteract, you can add a multiple noise maps, of which are offset, and test to their union (as seen here(note this is for custom gen, but the ideas are the same): ⁠old-world-generation

this is for the feature rules

[sly forge]

its not 100% responsible actually

also he isn’t placing a structure

he’s placing a scatter feature that doesn’t go outside 16x16

also its not a bug, its a poorly implemented feature

[jolly ember]

Are you referring to the chunk cuts I mentioned? Last I checked MCPE-82010 is marked as unresolved. https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-82010?jql=text ~ "structure chunk cut"

[sly forge]

the rotation one is a bug

HOWEVER

the larger-than-one-chunk-structure-cut issue isnt a bug

its poorly-implemented generation that doesnt take into account that structures need to be able to fully generate even if structures are partially in unloaded chunks

there is no reserved area for unloaded chunks in the API

specifically for addons

its reserved for vanilla only

[soft turtle]

Zalcyan, you can modify the feature rule of my biome simply to see how it looks for you so that you can pass it to me to see if I make more biomes at the end

[limber forum]

bruh what you said there feels like you want it to get done by someone else.

As others have told you, you should do it in latest release and experiment with q.noise

As for me, I don't understand completely how to make custom generation, though I try making different things to see what happens

[sly forge]

no.

put in some effort urself

we aren’t gonna spoon-feed you

[hushed rivet]

ffs
Electrika how can you say that

you’ve never done anything yourself
You always want help or other people to do it

[sly forge]

i have done things myself

ive asked for help on how to do something specific in the past because i still don’t fully understand some of the more advanced stuff with worldgen (like noise biomes, i just stopped that and left it to another person who actually knew what they were doing)

[undone lagoon]

try helping them learn instead of being rude maybe

[sly forge]

have fun backreading

[undone lagoon]

what

[sly forge]

that guy has really pissed me off with his not listening

in fact he kept lying and said he couldn’t use 1.19 because his pc could only handle 1.18, when in fact he is using education edition

which took him several days to say

[jolly ember]

Woah there. We have always been cordial to beginners in World Generation. At least I hope so. I suspect they are trying to overcome a language barrier on top of trying to get an answer to a moderately difficult question that may look easy for a beginner.

[jolly ember]

See that y for for your feature? The "(q.noise(v.worldx / 512, v.worldz / 512) + q.noise(v.worldx, v.worldz) * 0.05 > 0.5 && (math.abs(v.worldx) > 200 || math.abs(v.worldz) > 200)) ? (q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 1) : -1"

Lets break that down.

See the "?" and ":" in there? These form a ternary conditional operator. Essentially its asking a question, and uses what's before the colon if true, or after if false.
question- "(q.noise(v.worldx / 512, v.worldz / 512) + q.noise(v.worldx, v.worldz) * 0.05 > 0.5 && (math.abs(v.worldx) > 200 || math.abs(v.worldz) > 200))"
if true- "(q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 1)"
if false - "-1"

Lets look at the question.
"q.noise(v.worldx / 512, v.worldz / 512) + q.noise(v.worldx, v.worldz) * 0.05 > 0.5"
This is sampling noise at a given point were your feature generates and asks if it is greater than 0.5 (remember noise in MC ranges from -1 to 1). This says we want this biome to be clustered on the positive end of the noise spectrum. We divide by values such as 512 because Minecraft's default noise is small. What you need to know here is that the bigger number you divide by, the bigger the biomes will be. The other "+ q.noise(v.worldx, v.worldz) * 0.05" is adding some more variation to the shape of the biomes . (math.abs(v.worldx) > 200 || math.abs(v.worldz) > 200)) is there to prevent the feature form being placed on the main end island.

You can divide your noise map into chunks to create more regions/ biomes. Lets have the 'question' ask for different chunks across 1- to 1 (note "&&" just means "and":
biome 1
"q.noise(v.worldx / 512, v.worldz / 512) > 0.5"
biome 2
"q.noise(v.worldx / 512, v.worldz / 512) < 0.5 && q.noise(v.worldx / 512, v.worldz / 512) > 0.0"
biome 3
"q.noise(v.worldx / 512, v.worldz / 512) < 0 && q.noise(v.worldx / 512, v.worldz / 512) > -0.5"
biome 4
"q.noise(v.worldx / 512, v.worldz / 512) < -0.5"

See how we divided the noise range of -1 to 1 into four chunks to create four biomes?
You can divide further into as many biomes as you want.

Lets look at the true statement "(q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 1)"
This says that the feature should be placed on the ground layer. If it was in the overworld, the feature would replace grass.
Lets look at the false statement "-1". Essentially this is here to prevent the structure from being placed when the question returns false by selecting a Y coordinate that does not exist in the End. (You cant place blocks in the End at Y=-1)

This is the best I can do to explain this topic. Its not easy, and if you feel confused, read through https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/feature-types.html and the associated documentation. Note that some guides are outdated and biome files dont work. Hope this helps.

[soft turtle]

ahh ok let me do the test to see but send me screenshots of what I have to do to make the 4 5 biomes for version 1.1 of my addon simply to see it in more detail

for example something like this

[soft turtle]

I did understand everything you wrote and more alone than to understand it just a little more in detail, send me a screenshot to understand it a little more in detail or if you want I'll give you my addon with the 4 feature rules that are chorus_forest , foggy_mushroom_land , blossoming_spires and amber_land

[delicate trench]

On behalf of everyone who considers themselves a "worldgen person" and as someone who wished they could help like you are but simply doesn't have the time, thank you. This is one of the many reasons I genuinely respect you.

[sly forge]

ok i backread and i think i now know why they were asking chungus to create the biomes for em

it’s probably a gap in intelligence

why didn’t i think of this -.-

clowns self

but it doesn’t change the fact they didn’t mention they were using EDU from the start

i need to put myself in other peoples’ perspective more often

[mild stratus]

he's probably autistic,be patient -.-

[dawn dune]

How did u do end caves?

[soft turtle]

Well, about the caves, I did, but I can't tell you yet since I have to update it to 1.4 where I will add the caves a little bigger and expand in 1.6 where there will be 2 more biomes, I will add what would be the caverns at the end

[dawn dune]

There is no feature for it documented so howd ya do it??

[soft turtle]

1 feature

and feature rules

[dawn dune]

Oh

@sly forge were u gonna do this

[sly forge]

💀

dude

there’s a cave feature yk

[dawn dune]

Teach us

[delicate trench]

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/feature-types.html#carver-features

[delicate trench]

How about you actually provide them with something they can go off of instead of talking them down for not knowing something?

[mild stratus]

^^

[sly forge]

srry i was a little busy

didn’t have time to

anyways

can an aggregate feature place another aggregate feature?

[delicate trench]

Yes

[sly forge]

hmm

that’s interesting

i’ll try that now

[sly forge]

it didnt take long to get ur old biome generator to work on terrain lmao

[delicate trench]

?

[sly forge]

lol

[delicate trench]

Well yeah that’s just simple multinoise

[sly forge]

i wanted to use ur system for our SBS project

ofc i will definitely be modifying hte code

[delicate trench]

I guess

Just give credit ofc

[sly forge]

ofc i will

Hya already knows

[delicate trench]

Honestly I need to rework that system. Might be the first thing I attempt after I’m satisfied with my TotK shenanigans.

[sly forge]

as you can see ive already kinda gone and done that

[delicate trench]

You just modified the values from the looks of it

[sly forge]

yes, but it was enough to change the biome size completely

and their generation pattern

[delicate trench]

That’s not what I meant by rework but yeah, if the current system’s good enough for you don’t bother ig

That is what it was meant for, after all

Being used by everyday people

[sly forge]

honestly for what we are wanting to do, we actually need the stone strip as a transition biome

cant do something like that when it comes to literally any other system

[delicate trench]

Transition areas are mandatory imo

That’s why multinoise is so nice

[sly forge]

its just that multinoise is highly unoptimized so it cant be used for a reliable terrain generator without insane world load times

but it works fine for something like this

[delicate trench]

?

[sly forge]

yk, 3D noise terrain takes ages to load into a world

[hushed rivet]

what

[sly forge]

and its not even actual 3D

[delicate trench]

Who the heck used multinoise to generate 3D noise?

[hushed rivet]

^

[sly forge]

remember that asteroid pack you handed me?

[delicate trench]

Vaguely?

[sly forge]

yh

that was multinoise

using 3 planes of 2D

[delicate trench]

…No it wasn’t XD

[delicate trench]

Ok that’s not multinoise

[hushed rivet]

^

[delicate trench]

Those are layered noisemaps

[sly forge]

then what is it

[delicate trench]

Not the same thing

[sly forge]

hmm

welp, its definitely unoptimized as hell

[delicate trench]

Multinoise isn’t unoptimized bruh

[hushed rivet]

then make your own 🤯

[delicate trench]

Multinoise in a way is this

[delicate trench]

3D noise and multinoise are not the same thjng

[sly forge]

i meant the layering ig

[delicate trench]

Yeah

[sly forge]

if Molang supported Vector3 we could have actual 3D noise

[delicate trench]

It’s not Vector3, idk what they use for the json api, but yeah I agree we need an actual 3D query

[hushed rivet]

wdym by "Vector3"

that makes no sense

[delicate trench]

Now please I’ve been trying to type something for the past 2 minutes but kept getting interrupted

Multinoise is figuring out how to generate “something” with multiple noisemaps, not layered on top of each other, but rather both of them are used individually to figure out if something should be placed

So a prime example, and actually this is why I made that system ur using…

Say you want more than one biome to be able to generate in a given value range. You’d split that range into further distinct areas using another noise query with different parameters (obviously so you don’t get identical values to the first query), and presto. Now you can have a desert or a savannah generating in high “temperatures” depending on the value of another variable.

That’s how the vanilla biome system works, and in fact I’m pretty sure it’s what flakey used to create his awesome af biome system

[sly forge]

they use 2D perlin i think

also Chippy, i meant 3D perlin, my bad

[delicate trench]

Tho obviously I simplified the heck out of it

[sly forge]

unfortunately it doesnt work well at all

[delicate trench]

Why not?

[sly forge]

LuMinh tried using it but it was impossible to work with

[delicate trench]

Who’s luminh

[sly forge]

even with someone who knew what was going on

[sly forge]

a studio

[delicate trench]

Ok, and how was it “impossible to work with” exactly?

[sly forge]

its not flexible

for what LuMinh needed it wouldnt work because of how the placement system works

[delicate trench]

What placement system bruh

[sly forge]

as a result said member created his own using Voronoi, and it works very well

[sly forge]

the biome placement

what else

[delicate trench]

Feature placement, block placement, structures, a lot actually

[hushed rivet]

…it could be anything with you

[delicate trench]

You gotta get to the point my dude

[sly forge]

the entire topic thus far has been about biome gen systems .-.

[delicate trench]

But anyway, there’s no reason for multinoise to work with the biome system because, sad as it is, we actually don’t have any way to reference the vanilla variables

[delicate trench]

Well for who knows how long you’ve apparently been describing 3D as multinoise, so sorry if I’m a bit unsure of what you’re talking about

[sly forge]

anyways the reason it didnt work is because it uses a chart placement system, in that if two things intersect, it will place there, and there are transitions that are practically not usable for what was being done

LuMinh couldnt use it because almost all biomes fall under one row

[hushed rivet]

doesn’t seem like a system fault…

[sly forge]

the only exceptions were two mountain biomes and one ocean

[sly forge]

i never said it was

it just wasnt usable because of the type of system

they went with a Voronoi system instead

pfft-

"what in the doppler map"

[soft turtle]

wow this god

[delicate trench]

This is what you need for your biome system

[soft turtle]

ahhh ok ok

[sly forge]

It will work for up to four biomes. If you want to use more than that, you might want to learn to use Multinoise, which is used here.

[delicate trench]

Multinoise is what I was talking about

If you want to make really any biome system imo, let alone 24, you really should use it

It’s just…better

[sly forge]

It is also far easier to use than most other systems.

[delicate trench]

I’d love to help out but I’m about to leave for a hike in literally two mins, so hopefully someone else can take the reins

[sly forge]

I do not fully understand it yet because I never took the time to. However, it should be pretty straightforward as to how it works.

[soft turtle]

You can pass me the multi noise or the multi noise feature rule to make the biomes to see how it looks for me in .json or capture

[sly forge]

Sure, it’s pretty simple. I’ll modify them a little so they work in the End and not on custom terrain.

Or i can give you the map itself so it is easier for you to view.

[soft turtle]

you can do the 2 little things but you know that I would recommend that you expand the blocks of each color of a biome a little more, that is, you can expand it just a little more so that the biomes are not a little small

[sly forge]

I mean, you can easily do this yourself. Just change the number in the “_column” files in the features folder from 1024 to a higher number

[soft turtle]

emm what am I telling you look pass me the world simply to see it in my minecraft and see what blocks of each color of the biome you put just to see it only that I can not pass screenshots at the moment

send it to me if you want in .zip

[sly forge]

I wont be giving you a world file. What I meant by “map” was the biome generator behavior pack.

[soft turtle]

ahhh look wait for me but first let me tell you to delete the 2 remaining biomes simply to start with the feature rules again and leave the 2 biomes that I created at the beginning of my addon v1.0

ok I'll go to behavior packs now..

[sly forge]

You’ll have to do that yourself.

Also, in that image you saw, my render distance was set to 96.

Keep that in mind when you do your biomes.

[soft turtle]

ok look I'm going to behaviors that more. It takes me 4 months to do v1.0 of my addon

[sly forge]

You didn’t understand me.

I am GIVING you the pack.

So you can look through it and play with it.

There you go.

[limber forum]

Actually I'm going to have a look onto that as well

[soft turtle]

ok I downloaded it let me try it and recreate it

[sly forge]

No need to.

[limber forum]

You just need to check the files and change what you want it to be

That's just experimenting with the noise parameters

[sly forge]

When you import it, just move the folder from "behavior_packs" in Minecraft's files to "development_behavior_packs".

[limber forum]

Also this ^

[sly forge]

Then you can play with it as much as you want.

I recommend keeping it as a separate pack until you learn how to use it.

[soft turtle]

Look, sample biomes look good on you, that is, there is only a not-so-big error and that is that it generated an infinite world and I appeared in an infinite world but in a single block plane and it is not because of a complaint, it turned out well on you

[soft turtle]

all the land would look haci and not flat not to complain as I said

[sly forge]

I gave you a simple biome map so you could toy with the biome values and expressions on your own.

What I gave you is a blank slate you can apply however you like.

Besides , I cannot give you the code of my terrain as that is information I cannot leak.

[soft turtle]

ummm look I have an idea send it to me but in private just out of curiosity

[sly forge]

I cannot send my terrain.

[soft turtle]

ah ok ok let's see if I can do it

[sly forge]

when ur back i need some help with something

[dawn dune]

Does that mean we're getting the rivers?

[sly forge]

they’re already in place

[dawn dune]

I mean to separate the biomes like sen wanted

[sly forge]

.-.

[ashen shadow]

How do you define custom fog for a biome?

[upbeat barn]

Take a look at the fog file and override the proper biome

[ashen shadow]

oh yeah forgot I was overriding a biome 🤦‍♂️

it's hard coming back to Bedrock addons

[sly forge]

its hard dealing with Mojang not adding the ability to add custom biomes back in

[ashen shadow]

where is the fog to be used for each biome defined?

I can't use minecraft: namespace in the override the biome fog def

[upbeat barn]

https://github.com/Mojang/bedrock-samples/blob/main/resource_pack/biomes_client.json

[ashen shadow]

huh for some reason didn't find that one

[olive ridge]

@muted ether any ideas on how I can generate this?

[undone lagoon]

might need a structure

[olive ridge]

that could work I suppose

[undone lagoon]

if not it would probably be something to do with aggregate if i had to guess

[raw cedar]

what is that? in the middle of the dripstone

[olive ridge]

the geyser blocks?

[sly forge]

they look like egg sacs

[raw cedar]

it makes sense

[olive ridge]

it will make sense with particles

[delicate trench]

Believe it or not, there’s actually a feature type for this

Sadly it’s undocumented, and I have no idea why, but lmk when you’re back online and I can DM you an example of it

[summer iris]

Or...

We can document it..

[delicate trench]

Dk how :/

[sly forge]

at least name it 💀

[olive ridge]

k

[delicate trench]

Man now I’m away from home :/

I’ll do it when I get back tho

[delicate trench]

It’s called the exposed blob feature, idk much about it cuz I haven’t done much testing with it but the basic pattern looks a lot like what chungus wants

[royal bison]

how do you discovered that feature?

because is not documented

[sly forge]

xork…

its literally on bedrock.dev

[delicate trench]

Ah it is

My bad

[delicate trench]

Found it in an old vanilla pack like a year ago

And at the time there was no documentation on it but ig there is now

[sly forge]

yh true, a few months ago it was undocumented, only the schema was provided

[undone lagoon]

    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:partially_exposed_blob_feature": {
      "description": {
        "identifier": "minecraft:underwater_magma_feature"
      },
      "places_block": "minecraft:magma",
      "placement_radius_around_floor": 1,
      "placement_probability_per_valid_position": 0.5,
      "exposed_face": "up"
    }
  }
}```

seems interesting

[olive ridge]

is there a way to make a structure that randomizes a block state?

[limber forum]

I don't think so, you could make 3 structures with each state and with a weighted feature randomize it

[sly forge]

4 structures*

0, 1, 2, 3

[limber forum]

oh, yeah, well, you know what I mean

[soft turtle]

before

after:

Well, I don't want them to pass me the feature rule terrain, I just want them to modify the terrain a bit so that it doesn't look like the before, but with the after to make multinoise

[misty pivot]

Yeah, there is a feature type that allows you to randomize block states, but it refuses to recognize custom block states, so structures with different custom block states is your best bet.

[zealous sedge]

Does anyone know how to fix this? The problem is that it generates new islands on top of the original ones, I made my biomes also go up to those islands but when the trees appear they remove the grass

[soft turtle]

bro how to make 4 or 5 biomes since i saw foggy mushroomland blossoming spires and amber land

[zealous sedge]

As I mentioned you have to divide the noise

[soft turtle]

yes emm how you divide the noises is that being honest I don't know how to divide noises because in my addon I only have 2 biomes the foggy mushroom land and blossoming spires since I don't know much about feature rules send me a capture of the feature rules in private at least

[zealous sedge]

@soft turtle follow those instructions

[soft turtle]

bro EL_CORDERO_XD em how did you do to make the new terrain in the air at the end let's see how it turns out I'm just curious

[zealous sedge]

Modify a mountains pack by cioscia

@jolly ember I tried to use the steps you sent in world generation to create biomes but it didn't work for me what did I do wrong?

t.grid_one = query.noise(v.originx / 600, v.originz / 600); t.grid_two = query.noise((v.originx+5000) / 600, (v.originz+5000) / 600); t.pos_grid_one = 1/(1+math.pow(10,-20*t.grid_one )); t.column_height = 7 * t.pos_grid_one * t.pos_grid_two + 20;

[delicate trench]

That expression isn’t returning anything

[zealous sedge]

How can I solve it?

[jolly ember]

I cant quite solve it without exactly knowing where you've placed this. My guess this is in some scatter feature that connects to later scatter features in a chain? Try making this function return 1;. And iterations of the later features t.column_height.

[delicate trench]

You'd probably want to put it in a scatter feature whether you already have or not, because setting expressions in the feature rule will return the exact same values for every future iteration. In other words, instead of smooth looking noise terrain, you'd get weird blocky terrain with every chunk being elevated to a different height.

[zealous sedge]

So it doesn't work for biomes?

[delicate trench]

No it does, I'm just saying put it in a scatter feature instead of the feature rule file

[stray glacier]

trying to spawn a ore/block in magma iterations high for testing

but it's not spawning

[olive ridge]

what on earth is this error?

[olive ridge]

distribution should be 0-15 since a bchunk is 16 blocks wide

[stray glacier]

oh ok

on x & y

right

[olive ridge]

other than that just check the the name of the feature you're calling is correct and that all you feature names match the file names

[stray glacier]

ok

[olive ridge]

x z

[stray glacier]

sorry ya

[soft turtle]

foggy mushroom land v1.15

blossoming spires v1.11

I've improved a little more or less with the biomes, I'm going to see if I can do the third one, which is the chorus forest biome

[soft turtle]

Chorus forest v1

[soft turtle]

amber forest v1

[summer iris]

Wait what, yellow sky?

[delicate trench]

Yeah, fog

[summer iris]

Oh right, /fog

Forgot about it

I'm planning to do to this "custom biome" thing for my project. I'm working of off cicis templates to get it working.

[soft turtle]

I did that by creating a block and behaviors making a fog of a different color in resources and making mcfuntion that when you pass in a block it changes the color depending on the biome where you are

[sly forge]

for the nether?

[soft turtle]

nope is the end with the 4 biomes already created but in beta

[sly forge]

bruh im not talking to you and i didn’t ask you

shush

[soft turtle]

oh ok ok

[royal bison]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795845384115191838/848278347338219520/ezgif-3-bfcc85a5726b-1.gif

[soft turtle]

Does anyone know how to generate structures or caves and caverns in the end?

captures or json files of feature and feature rules

[round cosmos]

Can you use carver features for that?

[sly forge]

nope

unfortunately not

[round cosmos]

Oh bruh

Could always use single block air features and noise to fake carvers

[soft turtle]

It is that I almost did not find the way to generate caves, so I used the second option to make cave structures a little lower down, something like in the enderite addon

[arctic dawn]

Anyone know why I can't fill the mineshaft planks with air?

[sly forge]

because thats how mineshafts work

[arctic dawn]

Hmm... so there's no way to remove the mineshaft? I also tried putting a custom structure on it and it failed.

[soft turtle]

Dave you know at least how to make that type of terrain but in the end since my idea is that my addon has as a terrain something to do with the already created biomes

[sly forge]

you can try using ore features that replace wood ig

[arctic dawn]

Ok it doesn't work, no problem, I'll take it as a parkour feature

[arctic dawn]

... what do you mean? ...

[delicate trench]

You can't remove mineshafts with features.

[dawn dune]

Replace it using single block features then make it final pass in feature rules

[arctic dawn]

i think final_pass will destroy all custom structure

generated before final_pass

[sly forge]

you are correct

[sly forge]

mineshafts generate AFTER final_pass iirc

[soft turtle]

that is to say do as a terrain of the end but above as Y 180 and do as a biome type in that terrain

[limber forum]

he wants that generation you have made

[soft turtle]

This is crazy I did this and the new terrain already appeared it doesn't even give me lag I mean there is only an error in the terrain and at the bottom

[undone kindle]

I made a system for structures spawn together in an area (a bit like villages) but they spawn very close to each other, does anyone know how I can make them stay away from each other

[sly forge]

its not an error actually

[olive ridge]

I wonder if there's a way to overwrite spawn rules for vanilla features that don't have spawn rule files

[delicate trench]

Wdym spawn rules? Do you mean distribution?

[sly forge]

he’s talking about feature rules

[delicate trench]

So distribution

[soft turtle]

It's not just that, it's just the mind that this happened to Dave a bit, although I can't be seen at all, I just used this

{
"format_version": "1.13.0",
"minecraft:scatter_feature": {
"description": {
"identifier": "betterend:new_terrain_theend"
},
"iterations": "v.noise.size = 1024;
v.multinoise.temp = q.noise(v.originx/v.noise.size, v.originz/v.noise.size);v.multinoise.hum = q.noise((v.originx+1024)/(v.noise.size/2), (v.originz-1024)/(v.noise.size/2));t.height = q.noise(v.originz/64,v.originx/64)*8; return t.height;",
"places_feature": "betterend:end_stone",
"x": "(v.multinoise.temp) && (v.multinoise.hum)",
"z": "(v.multinoise.temp) && (v.multinoise.hum)",
"y": {
"extent": [
"0",
"t.height"
],
"distribution": "fixed_grid"
}
}
}

ok I generated the above now I have to generate the below how can I make this terrain to be generated but a little lower and biomes can be put there but at the end

[arctic dawn]

"t.hight * -1" maybe this is what you mean..

[soft turtle]

ok

[cosmic lynx]

Hi, well I'm currently making a project and I am having trouble with ores generation(Im new making them), I have enabled the CustomBiome in the worlds AND in the project but still nothing, someone knows what it could be that im missing?, Here are the Feature and the FeatureRule

[sly forge]

send the actual files

itll be easier to help that way

THE FILES

NOT THE TEXT

youll flood the channel

[cosmic lynx]

Oh sorry

[upbeat barn]

Whats not working

[cosmic lynx]

The ores are not generating at all

[upbeat barn]

Any content log

[delicate trench]

You're using capital letters. Use ttp, all lowercase, as the namespace instead.

[cosmic lynx]

Now it works! Thanks you, im really new on this 😅

[scenic kraken]

how to fix

[grand silo]

Does anyone know the biome tag for the new cherry biome?

Nevermind, its "cherry_grove"

[summer iris]

I wanna know how I could make my structure features to only generate on grass (or just snap to grass)

[zealous sedge]

You can use vegetation patch feature

[misty pivot]

As El_CORDERO_XD said, you can use the vegetation patch feature. What I usually do is to set it to spawn one block that replaces the block you want to place the structure on. Then set the vegetation feature that will be placed on the top as the structure feature, with the vegetation chance at 1.0. Hope that helps!

[severe tangle]

How does this feature rule work?

[upbeat barn]

I dont see anything in this file

[severe tangle]

Sorry

[upbeat barn]

😅 Uhhh...that's not a json file it seems...no extension

[steep lintel]

you cant send file.json on discord, discord API doesn't allo that

[zealous sedge]

This time what did I do wrong?

[delicate trench]

I have to go in a minute, but it's a pretty simple problem anyway. Your declaring of variables is backwards. Placement evaluation starts at the feature rule and works its way back to the single block. In other words, all those variables in the "culumn_height" feature aren't defined at the time you're calling them.

Just define them before you use them in the t.column_height expression and you should be good.

[zealous sedge]

Ahhhhh, thank you very much and sorry for bothering you so much 😅

[sly forge]

since when

[royal bison]

yes you can

[steep lintel]

that preview is just broken

[thorn cosmos]

how do i find my biome

[upbeat barn]

Custom biomes are broken in the latest version

[thorn cosmos]

;-;

is there any way to test out biome then?

[delicate trench]

They're broken, there's nothing to test

You could try biomegen with noise-driven molang, or other pseudorandom systems for that matter (but q.noise is less hassle)

[abstract carbon]

How

[abstract carbon]

mcstructure and feature, my dude

[delicate trench]

My guy, that question got answered ages ago

[abstract carbon]

What happens if I edit any biome file in the Minecraft server and that biome changes in all those biomes?

[abstract carbon]

Oh 😮 but he didn't know

[delicate trench]

He didn't when he asked the question, but then we answered it, and now he does

[delicate trench]

Also, this question makes no sense. What are you trying to do?

[mint juniper]

HELLO

[zealous sedge]

Hi

[abstract carbon]

@delicate trench because I try edit any biomes in minecraft server folder and I don't know if they change only one or all of it

[misty pivot]

Why do I find this interesting?

Everyone seems to be focused on making many biomes in the End. But... I think I've found a rough paper method.

[arctic dawn]

what is that tall pillar? looks cool

[delicate trench]

Yeah I like how it gets more degraded as you go up

Procedurally, I think you could do that with the same method I used for the dissolve "biome" transition everyone seems to love so much

[misty pivot]

Thanks! The tall pillar is in early stages tho. The plan was to climb the tower to collect some rare flowers on the top.

[misty pivot]

I actually was planning to use your method to see if I could have more control over my "biomes" being placed. Size wise and rarity wise anyway...

[delicate trench]

Yeah, you just need to change the noisemap sizes and change around the values in the “multinoise chooser” feature. And of course, you can add more biomes and more variables if you’re willing to brave through a headache or two XD

[abstract carbon]

So you use features or not?

[royal bison]

its not possible to make custom biomes bro

[delicate trench]

You can mimic them with features still, but officially yeah they're still broken. Just saying we're not out of options.

[royal bison]

yes, I mean the answer is yes, he used features because you can't make custom biomes xd

[misty pivot]

Hi guys! I think I've figured something out! Can you guess what's up with this pic?

[mint juniper]

not sure 😅

[delicate trench]

Looks like there's several things going on, which one in particular are u talking about? 😂

[misty pivot]

The mushroom forest! It's hard to see, since it's underground, but I've found a way to use noise values to create "biomes"... underground!

You see... the problem with Cici's End Biome Template (if that is what it is called) was that the ground was placed on the surface, never underground.

[mint juniper]

awesome 👏

[delicate trench]

So 3D noise?

[misty pivot]

A bit, yeah.

[delicate trench]

Wdym "a bit"

Well ig it couldn't be genuine 3D, unless you use that god-awful pre-generated index mapping method chippy showed me (no offense chippy, in all fairness you hate it too D:)

Anyway, looks cool. Wouldn't recommend going too crazy with it though, since assuming you're using the same 3D method we messed with a while back, it can put a real load on game performance.

[misty pivot]

Sigh, I know. I'll be careful..

[native abyss]

Is it possible to add new items to chests that appear in villages?

[upbeat barn]

Yes just edit the loot table

[native abyss]

Loot table of?

[upbeat barn]

Whatever loot

[native abyss]

How do I do that, is there an article?

[delicate granite]

Loot Tables

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/loot/loot-tables.html

[hushed rivet]

I’ll never say it’s good lol

[delicate trench]

lol

[thorn cosmos]

is this fixed yet?

[delicate trench]

no

[supple magnet]

how can i prevent a structure from generating on top of grass without removing air as an intersectable block type or setting the upper height limit below sea level? it's a giant salt block, i want it to be able to generate partially exposed sometimes and inside mountains but i don't want it to generate in the middle of a grassy field

[thorn cosmos]

so are structures not broken then?

[delicate trench]

features still work, custom biomes do not

[sly forge]

use ore features

and have it only replace stone or something

[native abyss]

@upbeat barn I have seen the loot tablets but I understand only to add a new item (that appears in the world) how can I say that this item appears in the chests of villages, but of a specific structure

[native abyss]

Or do I have to add a loot tablet with the chest name of that biome (as it appears in the apk) and add my item to it?

[native abyss]

I await an answer please.

[thin fox]

The way you worded your question is a bit odd

But you can use NBT editing to add chest loot tables to your structure

[native abyss]

Look, I want to edit what the chests in the villages originally have. And I want to add my custom item to those chests

[misty pivot]

There are vanilla loot tables that define what can be found in the village chests. Do you know where to find that?

[native abyss]

Yes

?vp

[delicate granite]

Vanilla Packs

Downloadable from: https://github.com/Mojang/bedrock-samples/releases

bedrock.dev archive: https://bedrock.dev/packs
GitHub (RP & BP) : https://github.com/bedrock-dot-dev/packs

Example particles: https://aka.ms/MCParticlesPack

[native abyss]

Here

[misty pivot]

Okay great! In the loot tables folder, there is a chests folder. And in that chests folder is a village folder, which defines all the items found in village chests.

[native abyss]

I know

My question is, do I have to add that folder as it is to my addon and add my item from there?

With the same name and everything

[misty pivot]

Yes. With the same folder name and file name.

[native abyss]

Loot tablets/chests/village_two_room_house.json

True?

That's the chest of the rooms I guess

@misty pivot

[misty pivot]

Probably. You meant loot_tables/chests/village_two_room_house.json, right? Not loot tables/chests...

[native abyss]

Yes

I'll try it, thanks

[native abyss]

Hey bro @misty pivot

I just tried it and everything but I couldn't find it and that I went through 3 villages in total, is that name that we are placing for the rooms of all the villages of different biomes? or for which

[misty pivot]

Wait a second. I don't think that loot table said above deals with all the villages in different biomes! Tbh I'm not sure which village house it's referring to...

[native abyss]

Mmmm

And what is the name so that it appears in all biomes

[native abyss]

@misty pivot

[misty pivot]

Not really sure. I have yet to test those tables...

[native abyss]

Is there any way to find the igloo by commands? @misty pivot

I edited his chest but I don't get any igloo

[mint juniper]

bros getting pinged left and right

[misty pivot]

I know right?😅

[native abyss]

What

[misty pivot]

Don't worry. I'll answer your question. I don't believe you can find the igloo using commands unfortunately.

[native abyss]

Uh

Thx Equal

[native abyss]

because when editing the chest of the jungle temple, just entering it throws me several errors (without moving anything), especially about horse armor

[upbeat barn]

@native abyss I will say editing loot tables is a #1067869659757543555 question not world gen

[delicate granite]

Loot Tables

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/loot/loot-tables.html

[native abyss]

Oh sorry

[peak flint]

is it possible to make a new biome from scratch that doesn't need to change the code of an official biome that is already in the game in minecraft 1.20?

[delicate trench]

No

But you can mimic a "custom biome" with molang-based features

[grand silo]

Does anyone know if it is possible to get naturally generating structures to generate only on specific blocks?

I’ve got some flowers that I have saved as a structure due to them being 3 blocks tall and they keep spawning in random areas

[misty pivot]

Try using vegetation patch features. You can set it to spawn one block and your structure as a vegetation feature with a chance of 100 percent. This will allow you to place the structure on a specific type of block.

[grand silo]

Trying that now!

[meager nymph]

https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1125577331730292898

[grand silo]

Using this has definitely cut down on the amount of flowers in weird places, but it didn’t eliminate it completely for some reason. I’m still getting some flowers on others. Would there be any reason why this is still happening, a reason I can fix? Or is it just Minecraft being stupid?

Here's the code for those flowers (they all use the same code, just with different features and names depending on the flower)

{
    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:vegetation_patch_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "nature:large_moonflower"
        },
        "horizontal_radius": 0,
        "surface": "floor",
        "ground_block": "minecraft:grass",
        "replaceable_blocks": [
            "minecraft:dirt",
            "minecraft:grass"
        ],
        "vegetation_feature": "nature:moonflower_2",
        "vegetation_chance": 1,
        "vertical_range": 10,
        "depth": 0
    }
}

[grand silo]

I'm wondering if its the placement pass I used? It seems to still spawn on trees, but only the trees that the addon uses and nothing vanilla. At the same time though, some of the flowers are spawning on stone for some reason??

[stuck gull]

Guys

Anybody know

How to generate a structure in specific place

Like near village

Or something like that ?

[stuck gull]

._.

@night mantle

._. do u know how to do it ?

[night mantle]

I will check it out, I will find out how to do it

So you wish to have a structure spawning next to a village?

[stuck gull]

._.

Yep

I really need it to my add-on

I want to put a new villager structure

Or even edit the villages structures

[night mantle]

So your want to edit the structure?

[stuck gull]

Yep

Is it possible ?

I am beinger

[night mantle]

So which one? Edit or add new structure

Or you want to customize the village?

[stuck gull]

Both

Yep

[stuck gull]

Yep

[night mantle]

Ok, I will create a template pack! Just a sec...

[stuck gull]

I know how to put structure to generate it in game

[night mantle]

I will do both

[stuck gull]

Thx ❤️

I appreciate it

Is that hard ._. !

[night mantle]

I'm not sure

[stuck gull]

,_, ah

I have another question? Questions*

[night mantle]

Hw can i assist?

[stuck gull]

Can i make a costume gui

._. like regular block

Like Smithing table

Etc...

[night mantle]

Costume? Like a piece of clothing?

[stuck gull]

Nah

Costume gui for block

GUI

[night mantle]

So a picture?

[stuck gull]

._. nah nah

Like that

[night mantle]

Using scripts?

[stuck gull]

Like that i mean

But not entity

[night mantle]

Im not good with that

[stuck gull]

._. ah no problem

I'm just asking

So , items files

Like shield item , and block item

Can u found it in win 10 files M

?

:-: hmm hmm

._.

,___, any ?

@night mantle :-: are u alive ?

[night mantle]

Yes

I am not qualified enough to answer this question

[stuck gull]

Ah ok ._.

What about ,, costume structure template ..

[night mantle]

i am testing and trying to get it to work

[stuck gull]

._. ok , Np

Just asking ._.

Can i put the new structure in any place or just villages ?

Or everything?

[night mantle]

My big brain done it!

{
    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:structure_template_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "wiki:house_feature"
        },
        "structure_name": "mystructure:test",// Structure name
        "adjustment_radius": 4,
        "facing_direction": "random",
        "constraints": {
            "grounded": {},
            "unburied": {},
            "block_intersection": {
                "block_allowlist": [
                    "minecraft:air"
                ]
            }
        }
    }
}

[upbeat barn]

🤔

[delicate granite]

Structure Template Features

**Structure template features **generate structures by referencing saved structure files. These features trade power and flexibility for convenience.

Wiki Explanation:
https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/feature-types.html#structure-template-features

Tutorial:
https://wiki.bedrock.dev/world-generation/structure-features.html

[stuck gull]

._.

@night mantle ._. ؟

{
    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:structure_template_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "wiki:house_feature"
        },
        "structure_name": "mystructure:test",// Structure name
        "adjustment_radius": 4,
        "facing_direction": "random",
        "constraints": {
            "grounded": {},
            "unburied": {},
            "block_intersection": {
                "block_allowlist": [
                    "minecraft:air"
                ]
            }
        }
    }
}

That ._. ?

[night mantle]

yes

[stuck gull]

How can i use it ._. !

I mean how can i put in village

Or something like that

U ._. know

[night mantle]

I found this file path in game file, I will try modify the structure: structures\village\plains\houses

[stuck gull]

,_, :-: thx

._. can u do it for mansions

Trails

Another dimension

Anything

Or just villages

NVM

@upbeat barn :-:

[night mantle]

I am converting a structure from .nbt to .mcstructure, Jusgt a sec...

[stuck gull]

,_, ah

Is just even possible too .__. ?

[night mantle]

I will see when im done

[stuck gull]

._. ok no problem

Take ur time ._.

[night mantle]

Its quite troubling, But i will get there: Sorry for my time

[stuck gull]

._.

What ,_, !

Ok ._.

[night mantle]

It is not possible to edit the strucutres in game

[dark bison]

even if you edited the .nbt files in \structures folder?

[stuck gull]

Man @night mantle

looks like you have edited the structure not from the minecraft but using a nbt/strcutre editor then it something is wrong. i recommend to make the strcuture in the game and export/save it using strcture block

Look

[night mantle]

How i spawn the village structure in game?

[stuck gull]

._. idk

It s somebody answer

U can find him in json ui

[undone lagoon]

what's the placement pass for the trees and the placement pass for the flowers?

[stuck gull]

._. minato

:-:

[dark bison]

what ._.

[stuck gull]

Huh :-: finally i found u

[dark bison]

generate a new village with your structure in it

[stuck gull]

._.

Huh :-: ?

So u know how ._. ?

[dark bison]

no lol

[stuck gull]

Wtf

[dark bison]

im just giving you an idea

[stuck gull]

Yeah ._.

@night mantle :-: how about ?

Template._.

Did u quit !?

[night mantle]

No

I do not quit

[stuck gull]

:-: ,_,

Good

They released new stable bedrock update with new templates

Or something like that

[night mantle]

They don't contain the structures

[stuck gull]

._. sad

Structures are .nbt files

U know ._.

[night mantle]

yes

[stuck gull]

So :-: can u do it ?

Or it s impossibllllllle !!!!!!!!!!!

[night mantle]

yes its possible

[stuck gull]

._. ah

Yay finnaly i can make new villages structures , thx u ❤️ :-:

[thin fox]

You can't

And you can't edit or remove vanilla structures

[stuck gull]

._. ah

[misty pivot]

That's very strange. That's not supposed to happen. Make sure the feature file called in the vegetation feature doesn't scatter the flowers all around but places one, like using a single block feature.

[stuck gull]

._. !

[grand silo]

I figured it out, I just had to set the depth to 1 and the vertical range to 0 and that fixed the problem. Thanks for the help!

[misty pivot]

No problem!😊

[stuck gull]

@night mantle :-: any news ?

[delicate trench]

This already got answered by Grimm

[stuck gull]

@night mantle :-:

[night mantle]

Nnews\

No nes]

No news\

[stuck gull]

:-: mission failed

[night mantle]

Which mission?

[stuck gull]

._. nothing

._. did u make it :-: ?

[night mantle]

You cannot fail something that never existed

[stuck gull]

:-:

[night mantle]

Ohh the structure generation?

[stuck gull]

Yep ._.

[night mantle]

Oh, I will ceatere

[stuck gull]

,_,

Ok ._. np

Sorry for disturbing you:-:

[night mantle]

What disturbance?

[stuck gull]

:-: idk

[stuck gull]

Does it takes too long time :-: !

[night mantle]

ohh i keep forgetting everthing

I go for 1 hour drives and never return to my device

[night mantle]

feature_rules: ```json
{
"format_version": "1.13.0",
"minecraft:feature_rules": {
"description": {
"identifier": "wiki:plains_house_feature",
"places_feature": "defow:test"
},
"conditions": {
"placement_pass": "first_pass",
"minecraft:biome_filter": {
"test": "has_biome_tag",
"operator": "==",
"value": "plains"
}
},
"distribution": {
"iterations": 1,
"x": {
"extent": [
0,
16
],
"distribution": "uniform"
},
"y": "query.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz)",
"z": {
"extent": [
0,
16
],
"distribution": "uniform"
},
"scatter_chance": {
"numerator": 1,
"denominator": 25
}
}
}
}

features: ```json
{
"format_version": "1.13.0",
"minecraft:structure_template_feature": {
"description": {
"identifier": "defow:test"
},
"structure_name": "mystructure:test",
"adjustment_radius": 4,
"facing_direction": "random",
"constraints": {
"grounded": {},
"unburied": {},
"block_intersection": {
"block_allowlist": [
"minecraft:air"
]
}
}
}
}

@stuck gull

[stuck gull]

._.

What is dis :-:

[night mantle]

the structure generation

Why is this not a biome ingame?: ```js
{
"format_version": "1.13.0",
"minecraft:biome": {
"description": {
"identifier": "test"
},
"components": {
"minecraft:climate": {
"downfall": 0.7,
"snow_accumulation": [
0.6,
0.9
],
"temperature": 15.0
},
"minecraft:overworld_height": {
"noise_params": [
0.6,
0.9
]
},
"minecraft:surface_parameters": {
"sea_floor_depth": 7,
"sea_floor_material": "minecraft:blue_ice",
"foundation_material": "minecraft:cobblestone",
"mid_material": "minecraft:concrete",
"top_material": "minecraft:glass",
"sea_material": "minecraft:water"
},
"minecraft:overworld_generation_rules": {
"generate_for_climates": [
[
"medium",
100
],
[
"warm",
100
],
[
"cold",
100
]
]
},
"test": {}
}
}
}

[misty pivot]

Oh, hasn't anyone told you? Custom biomes don't work anymore. They've been broken since 1.18.

[eternal orchid]

What should i exactly do in order to generate some floating islands (like islands in the end dimension) in overworld?

[stuck gull]

._.

[rough raven]

You can talk to me here, what did you need.. and DMing w/o permission is not what most people want.

I can guarentee you that no where on mine does it or will it ever say that... regardless... I don't do world gen or outside connections with non-mc stuff... just entities and blocks

[upbeat barn]

😉 Its ok to DM people as long as you tell them beforehand per our rules

😉 Our server, our rules

Yes

🤷 We can always kick you for breaking our guidelines

Fine by me 🙂

[undone lagoon]

tf happen over here

[night mantle]

Looks like a user did not read the rules! Better luck next time

[native abyss]

Guys

does this still work?

[zealous sedge]

@scenic kraken

[scenic kraken]

if u make a feature with a block, the component minecraft:on_placed it's executed?

[upbeat barn]

Im pretty sure no last I checked. Could test again

[native abyss]

Guys, does anyone know how I can edit the items in the chests of my custom structure?

So that they are generated differently in each structure

[delicate granite]

Randomised Structure Loot

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/loot/randomized-structure-loot.html

[upbeat barn]

@native abyss

[native abyss]

Does the .bp/loot tablets filename have to be the same as the filename that I export with the structure?

[native abyss]

and do I have to put the empty chests in the structure or how?

[tall dagger]

.

Hi guys

Can anyone do a quick summary on what possible with World Generation?

Custom Biome? Custom Structure? etc

[delicate trench]

Custom biomes, officially, aren’t possible. You can mimic them with features, which is the only really functional part of world generation atm. Using features, you can place blocks, patches of grass, trees, custom structures, and with enough patience and understanding, you can make fake biomes like I said earlier using noise and Molang.

[royal ruin]

How can I update my features to work in the new Preview version?

[delicate trench]

Set the manifest’s format version to 1.20.20

[tall dagger]

About the place feature, can I do cave stuff with it?

[delicate trench]

Be more specific

[delicate trench]

This is a bedrock addons server :/

[acoustic horizon]

You can check for add-ons in MCPEDL. You have other options such making it by yourself or porting a Java world to Bedrock.

[royal bison]

isnt the seeds same as java?

or you mean by the structures?

ah, so, literally the features dont match java edition

[delicate trench]

Yeah, nbt based structures also spawn in different places. Like the ocean monuments, fortresses, strongholds, etc. don’t match the ones in java

[native abyss]

Is it possible to adjust how buried I want my structure to appear? Example I want 2 buried blocks to appear.

[night swallow]

If I want some floating islands to be naturally generated in the map (I don't want to use pre-built structures)

Is this possible?

[thin fox]

Use 3D noise

It'd been used for end add-ons

[night swallow]

Can you give me a link so I can learn it

[thin fox]

I don't have one

[night swallow]

so where can i find it

[thin fox]

Here

Somewhere

[native abyss]

Guys if I put "taiga" in the features rules, will this structure appear in all taiga biomes? or do i have to specify each one

[upbeat barn]

It will appear in every biome that has the taiga tag

[native abyss]

Thanks

Does it include taiga hills and all that?

[upbeat barn]

🤷 Check the files or the wiki

[native abyss]

Ok

[native abyss]

Que

Esta medio bugueada esa textura

[zealous sedge]

Sorry I sent it wrong

[zealous sedge]

not a texture

[native abyss]

Y que es entonces

Habla español no te hagas pndjo

[zealous sedge]

Lol

It is a server in English, you cannot speak another language

[native abyss]

Stfu

Do you know anything about loot tablets in the structure? @zealous sedge @zealous sedge

[scenic kraken]

I divided the noise map into 16 parts. The problem is that these biomes no longer seem to have a very strange shape. Increasing the size doesn't help much. Does anyone know how to fix it?

[native abyss]

what is the page "loot tableR"?

[scenic kraken]

@muted ether srry for the ping, u are very good in wg, u know about that?

[dawn dune]

Mcbe essentials

[native abyss]

Very thanks bro

[dawn dune]

Np

[native abyss]

hey bro, you used that page before?

[dawn dune]

Yep

[native abyss]

one question, the file to put there on the page (loot_tables/chests, etc)

does it have to be empty?

or as

How

[native abyss]

@dawn dune

[dawn dune]

Chest has to be empty write the loot table file name in the loot table section

[native abyss]

I understand, so the chest has to have the loot in Minecraft? More in the loot tablets/chests the file has to be empty

True?

[dawn dune]

The chest in Minecraft has to be empty the file needs to have the loot table stuff

[native abyss]

Ok i understand

So I add the items is coding, not in Minecraft.

[pearl bane]

What's the best way to create custom biomes?

[upbeat barn]

Custom biomes are broken

[pearl bane]

Yes I know

[upbeat barn]

You can use features

[pearl bane]

Right

[muted ether]

Hmm? They're getting cut off?

[native abyss]

What is the features and features rule for a structure to appear on the ocean floor?

[scenic kraken]

i tried to divide the noise map into 16 parts to generate 16 biomes for the same reason that it was divided into so many parts they stop looking like biomes

[native abyss]

What is the function of "Minecraft:Air" in the features?

[muted ether]

Where did you see this?

[muted ether]

Send me all your relevant files. Send the whole pack if you wanna save me some time.

[scenic kraken]

thx, can i send u to dm the pack?

[muted ether]

Sure.

[zealous sedge]

Hi, I'm a friend of Halo's, he's busy so I'll pass it on to you

[muted ether]

Got it.

[muted ether]

Oof, sorry, which feature rules and feature files am I looking for? multinoise_chooser.json?

[zealous sedge]

If also variables.json are in the multinoise folder and the feature rule is multinoise_map.json

[muted ether]

Got it.

[zealous sedge]

[muted ether]

@zealous sedge: Yeah, the conditions in the conditional list feature don't make a lot of sense.

You're using 5 noises with like 15 different conditional placements.

It's hard to describe, but you'd need to "fill out" the entire range of all combinations of the 5D space for that to work.

So for example, if you just had x and y as your noises (like with a Cartesian plane), you could do:

• x ≥ 0 & y ≥ 0
• x < 0 & y ≥ 0
• x ≥ 0 & y < 0
• x < 0 & y < 0

Or even just:

• x ≥ 0
• x < 0 & y ≥ 0
• x < 0 & y < 0

Either system fills out all of space. But your example doesn't. If you don't understand, I'd strongly recomend just lessening the number of noise queries you're setting up. Maybe down to 2 or 3. And then make sure every single value from -1 to 1 is "covered".

[native abyss]

Does anyone know why my structure appears floating and not on the floor?

[muted ether]

Sorry, I'm late getting back to you; I've felt pretty shit the past couple days. I made this for you. Use these files as an example for your own Nether structure:

[native abyss]

Ok

[native abyss]

Cheer up Bro! Get better.

[native abyss]

it worked! but it appears on the surface and I want something "semi buried" to appear, that is, something like a crater.

[native abyss]

[FeatureRegistry][error]-Mi mundo | No definition found for feature 'mc:craneo_mcstructure'

what does this error mean?

[muted ether]

I'm sorry to say that exactly what you're wanting is nearly impossible. It's very challenging to make this work. 😦

The best I can say is to remove the Netherrack from the structure and use just air, adjacent blocks, and structure voids.

[native abyss]

Oh

[native abyss]

Do you know what this is for?

And look, I used the same file that you gave me for another nether structure and it doesn't appear..

[olive ridge]

you can add a rim to the structure so that it blends into the ground

then offset it in with a scatter feature

[native abyss]

How

[native abyss]

Someone help me?

[thin fox]

Build the rim

Make it blend with the terrain

[native abyss]

Already solved

[native abyss]

But now I have another problem

[deep dew]

Hi, I have created a custom flower with different properties/states, and I'm wondering if it's possible to define the block state of a custom block in a single_block_feature. It seems to be buggy, and I was wondering if you have any ideas on how to fix it, thanks 🙂

[thorn cosmos]

So wait hoe long will world gen be broken?

[muted ether]

I feel like I tried this a couple weeks ago, and it worked flawlessly.

[muted ether]

Features and feature rules (most of them) are headed to stable. Biomes will stay broken for the foreseeable future. Custom dimensions have never been supported.

[thorn cosmos]

Alright

[junior prism]

is there any way that structures like pyramids or villages do not generate

[deep dew]

feature: json { "format_version": "1.13.0", "minecraft:single_block_feature": { "description": { "identifier": "better_tree:pine_snowy_tallgrass" }, "places_block": { "name": "better_tree:snowy_tallgrass", "states": { "better_tree:variations": 1 } }, "enforce_survivability_rules": true, "enforce_placement_rules": true, "may_replace": [ "minecraft:air" ], "may_attach_to": { "bottom": [ "better_tree:snowy_grass_block" ] } } }

custom block: json { "format_version": "1.19.50", "minecraft:block": { "description": { "identifier": "better_tree:snowy_tallgrass", "menu_category": { "category": "nature", "group": "itemGroup.name.grass" }, "properties": { "better_tree:variations": [ 0, 1, 2 ] }, }, "components": { "tag:grass": {}, "minecraft:geometry": "geometry.snowy_tallgrass", "minecraft:material_instances": { "*": { "texture": "snowy_tallgrass_01", "render_method": "alpha_test", "face_dimming": false } }, "minecraft:destructible_by_mining": { "seconds_to_destroy": 0.5 }, "minecraft:light_dampening": 0, "minecraft:collision_box": false, "minecraft:placement_filter": { "conditions": [ { "allowed_faces": [ "up" ], "block_filter": [ "dirt", "grass", "better_tree:snowy_grass_block" ] } ] } } } }

And I get this error : [Json][error]-test | better_tree:pine_snowy_tallgrass | minecraft:single_block_feature | places_block | Invalid state during block parsing: block name better_tree:snowy_tallgrass, state name better_tree:variations, state type 1.

[native abyss]

Anyone know of structures in the nether here?

[compact crescent]

does anyone one know why my feature rules stopped working in 1.20.10 they used to work before, i can provide code if needed

but otherwise what did change about them in 1.20.10 there is absolutely no error message

[sick kraken]

Hi, is it possible to trigger a block event when the block is being placed down because, I am using a custom block to spawn in the trees, and you can see the block for a few seconds, and it completely ignores the queued_ticking component , unless it is placed down by a player or is used by setblock?

[muted ether]

I didn't use your example, but I can confirm that this was working with at least numeric and enumeration states on custom blocks in my tests recently. I admittedly did not try your specific files.

[misty pivot]

Really? When I tried it a long time ago, it didn't work. I just thought that features couldn't read custom block states, only minecraft ones...

[sick kraken]

Do noise_params still work?

[scenic kraken]

its possible make gen of block with an especific block property (custom block)?

[olive ridge]

unfortunatly only with structures

[native abyss]

How can I make my structure appear in the whole world except where there is water?

[dawn dune]

Make sure u blacklist water in the structures

[royal bison]

I know there is a whitelist for blocks, not a blacklist

[native abyss]

K

[native abyss]

What is the name of the biome so that it appears worldwide?

[olive ridge]

you can test for water by attempting to place a block that can only place in water, then another block that replaces that block with water again, then by using "early_out": "first_success" you can place your structure only when the water test fails

[sick kraken]

How can I stop this from happening?, my trees keep generating on stone sometimes

[native abyss]

Ok

[dawn dune]

Overworld

[native abyss]

Ok

[scenic kraken]

and trait?

[sick kraken]

Does anyone know how to make trees spread out more when generating, because sometimes the trees will clip in half when I add something to the extent in feature rules?

[heady cove]

What does variance in the tree feature do?

How does it influence the size of my trees?

[heady cove]

Hi

[heady cove]

;-;

[dense crow]

Hi, how can I reduce the number of trees in a biome?

[zealous sedge]

How are you generating it?

[muted ether]

Reduce the iterations.

[muted ether]

You need two tags for the Overworld: overworld and overworld_generation.

[dawn dune]

Why both tho?

[muted ether]

Because for backwards-compatible reasons, not all Overworld biomes use the overworld tag. Some of them instead use overworld_generation.

[dawn dune]

U busy I cld use ur help

I know lots abt features and stuff but I know very little abt noise and I wanna know how to do stuff like that

heres an example howd that look as a iretation

[muted ether]

That is quite a brutal thing to cover. One day (soon now that these are stable), I will have to author a tutorial. In the meantime, I'm afraid others here and example packs are all you have to go off. 😦

[dawn dune]

alr but plz tell me howd only this look as a iretaton:((

[delicate trench]

It’d heavily depend on what you do with that equation. But assuming you’d use it for both x and z directions and since it’s a sinusoidal curve, it’d look something like this screenshot from henrik’s worldgen video.

[delicate trench]

And ik this will barely help at all, but q.noise takes two parameters and uses perlin noise to return a value in between -1 and 1 (including -1 and 1).

From there you can either return some amplified version of the value directly, or use equations like your desmos one to assign specific values to different ranges of noise (e.g. #old-showcase message).

[dawn dune]

I watched that vid as well:) however maths like that has to translated to molang dosen't it

I can't just write iterations : "y = x"

[delicate trench]

No, but you can create a variable using that equation and treat the q.noise call as x.

[dawn dune]

Cld u give a example of howd that look as a Minecraft bedrock iretation?

[delicate trench]

No because I’m about to go to bed :)

But maybe tomorrow

[dawn dune]

Alr plz do tho:)

[heady cove]

Bump

I've been experimenting with variance but I still cannot ascertain what it does. I'm trying to make my trees of a constant size.

[native abyss]

can someone help me with something? my structure doesn't show up, the content log doesn't show any error either.

[light tapir]

Hey, is it possible to generate structures with entities without Wierd mob spawners and nbt editing shenanigans?

[upbeat barn]

No

[scenic kraken]

yes

u can put commands

command blocks

and when the structure was generated

the commands disappear and then set the structure

[patent kindle]

how would i be able to generate custom block patches that resemble granite or andesite clusters that spawn in the overworld but make some spawn in the nether and with my block, because there is nothing that says anything on nether generation anywhere

ive tried to do something similar in the past but instead with an ore, and it never gave me an error but it never spawned in so i just gave up and deleted the code

[upbeat barn]

Just use the same ore feature and change the feature rule to generate in the nether biomes. Also change the replace filters

[patent kindle]

that did nothing

there is nothing on placement passes and which to use or which actually exist, and the biome tags when changed to nether biomes or the hell/nether tag didnt make them spawn either

[upbeat barn]

Any content log?

Show your code?

[patent kindle]

well like i said, i deleted it and gave up, there was no error, empty content log, and when i asked for help my message was deleted cause i accidentally sent it in the blocks section instead of this one cause i didnt even notice this one existed so then i double gave up, but now half a month later im back here, but if im correct i think this was it, ive tried different passes like underground pass, ive tried with and without the hell/nether tags, i dont think ive tried it with just the biomes seperately

but i never got any content log feedback

[upbeat barn]

Make sure you have the Custom Biome toggle turned on unless your format version is 1.20.20 or higher. Increase the iterations

You can always remove the replace filters and let your block generate everywhere

[patent kindle]

alright i'll restart from scratch, if i run into the same problem again i'll notify

[zealous sedge]

Help I don't understand for some reason the trees are cut in a very strange way which also affects the grass

[dawn dune]

Did u change the noise?

[zealous sedge]

I'm trying to make grass spawn on all layers like nether vanilla biomes without using vegetation patch and snap to floor do everything from single block and biome features I have not achieved anything, does anyone have an idea how to do it?

[soft turtle]

How does a natural village spawn???

[upbeat barn]

Its hardcoded

[soft turtle]

@upbeat barn what do you mean???

Basically what the way to make this???

[upbeat barn]

You have to use a combo of feature rules, scatterred feature to place the structures

[soft turtle]

@upbeat barn you have any example so I can work with it???

[upbeat barn]

You can search in this channel for examples

[dull obsidian]

Can someone please help me? I've been having a problem with structure generation, idk why even if I use the same structure of features and rules the structures don't spawn, I even try loaders if the size is the problem...

[scenic kraken]

why i have a ping?

[sly forge]

idk

[summer iris]

World Generation

This forum is for discussion of anything related to world generation, such as biomes, features, structures and molang based generation.

Introduction: Introduction to Features and Feature Rules and how to properly utilize them.

Biomes Documentation

• Beginner's Guide: Introduction to learn what World Generation is and what it can do.
• Wiki Explanation: Explanation what custom biomes do and how they work(Currently Broken).
• Raw Documentation: Raw documentation on Biomes, Features and Feature Rules with some comments

Features

• Feature Types: A list of all feature types.

Take advantage of these resources to master World Generation and leverage its power to create dynamic landscapes in Minecraft Bedrock Edition.

[raw cedar]

How do I make the structure lower?

like 7 blocks to stay at the right height

[sly forge]

for the y value, instead of using the normal heightmap query, put a -7 after it

[raw cedar]

do you have this query?

I don't know which one it is

[delicate trench]

q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 7

[zealous sedge]

Help, for some reason gridded walls are generated, does anyone know how to fix it?

[undone lagoon]

Can you not set states for the leaves on random spread canopy? i'm tryna make azalea leaves never decay

[raw cedar]

"y": {
"extent": [
60,
150
],
"distribution": "q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 7"
},

like this??

[delicate trench]

no, like this:
"y": "q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 7"

[sly forge]

i mean if you do it correctly you CAN actually limit the range of values

[delicate trench]

That wasn't what he was asking

[sly forge]

ik, but if you pay attention to their code block it seems that is what they are wanting to do

[round cosmos]

Does BiomeOverride still work? I've set it up but I'm having issues. Trying to make the whole world into frozen_ocean but normal chunks are still generating...

as I fly through the world trees vanish and ruined ocean structures appear on the surface within like a 4x4 chunk region around me

so it's like it's loading the structures client side then the server is telling the client that they're not there

[sly forge]

...it hasnt worked since 1.18 afaik

[round cosmos]

dang

ig I can downgrade the generator version tho

thanks for letting me know

[upbeat barn]

[muted ether]

Min engine version?

[upbeat barn]

1.20.40

[muted ether]

No clue then

[upbeat barn]

[summer iris]

cant use vanilla features

they kinda forced us to use a new min engine version to use features

[upbeat barn]

Wdym?

This is a custom feature

[summer iris]

yea, you can't place internal features

they did this in 1.20.20

you could play with format versions

[upbeat barn]

But it isnt an internal feature...its using scatter to place my blocks

[summer iris]

this is an internal feature

minecraft:feature_name counts as internal

even if you place a vanilla feature, it will not let you

[upbeat barn]

Ah, so basically we cant use any world gen feature anymore

Wtf

[summer iris]

I know, it is bad

[summer iris]

the namespace needs to be custom to work

[upbeat barn]

But it is? The identifier is my own custon namespace

[summer iris]

The feature you're placing uses minecraft:

[upbeat barn]

It is nit

[summer iris]

^

[summer iris]

That's a bug

The feature type counts as internal

Despite it being data driven

Exposed the following feature placement rules from behind the data driven biome experimental toggle. This allows creators to attach their custom features to a biome, and to define the rules by which those features are placed

minecraft:aggregate_feature
minecraft:cave_carver_feature
minecraft:fossil_feature
minecraft:geode_feature
minecraft:growing_plant_feature
minecraft:multiface_feature
minecraft:nether_cave_carver_feature
minecraft:ore_feature
minecraft:partially_exposed_blob_feature
minecraft:scatter_feature
minecraft:search_feature
minecraft:sequence_feature
minecraft:single_block_feature
minecraft:snap_to_surface_feature
minecraft:structure_template_feature
minecraft:surface_relative_threshold_feature
minecraft:tree_feature
minecraft:underwater_cave_carver_feature
minecraft:vegetation_patch_feature
minecraft:weighted_random_feature

It's also not experimental anymore

Here

try format version 1.20.40

I pinged smokey

Goofy ahh mobile

@upbeat barn

[broken salmon]

how did I end up here

[delicate trench]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-hell-welcome-to-hell-chef-skinner-skinner-gif-26308387

[round cosmos]

Any way I can fake an infinite ocean world? I'm considering using a similar method to the old void world thing (using features to overwrite the terrain), but I'm not really sure where to start. If anyone could provide some pointers that'd be great! Thanks!

[scenic kraken]

not sure, but probably noise

[delicate trench]

I’d just use a bunch of multilayered columns to generate terrain. Start with stone at the bottom, water in the middle until you reach some arbitrary sea level, then air for the rest of the column until y 256, or whatever the max possible height for 1.18 mountain generation is. That way you kill two birds with one stone, though keep in mind it will have similar performance to a manual void since, in principle, you’re doing the same thing.

I’m a bit busy this week but I’ll try to make an example for you if I can.

[round cosmos]

No rush for an example- Don't stress it. I'll experiment and let you know if I run into any issues. Just got to figure out how to generate a column lmao

Maybe if I can find one of those manual void world examples I'll use that as a starting point

[round cosmos]

getting closer but still struggling to figure out how to get a "fake" water level

thought this'd work...

{
    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:scatter_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "mb:column_water"
        },
        "iterations": "t.heightmap = 63+(q.noise(v.originz/128,v.originx/128))*16;; return 75-t.heightmap;",
        "places_feature": "mb:water_feature",
        "x": 0,
        "z": 0,
        "y": {
            "extent": ["t.heightmap", "75"],
            "distribution": "fixed_grid"
        }
    }
}```

Yeah I genuinely cannot figure out how to get the water column working, I've tried so much lmao

wracking my brain for far too long and this is the best I can do unfortunately

{
    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:scatter_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "mb:column_water"
        },
        "iterations": "t.heightmap = math.floor(63+(q.noise(v.originz/128,v.originx/128))*10); return t.heightmap<62 ? 128: 0;", // testing with 128 iterations so ik iterations aren't the cause of any issues if not generating
        "places_feature": "mb:water_feature",
        "x": 0,
        "z": 0,
        "y": {
            "extent": ["t.heightmap", 63],
            "distribution": "gaussian" // idk why fixed_grid wasn't working
        }
    }
}```

water_feature is an obisidian block

[round cosmos]

wait it's really dumb to try do it with separate features

might try using a conditional list feature

[round cosmos]

Manage to find a solution?

[delicate trench]

Are you aiming for completely submerged terrain, or mostly submerged with islands?

[round cosmos]

Mostly submerged with islands

So what I was trying to do was: use a column, and each block in the column was a conditional list that picked the block to placed based on the noise height map and sea level, so that it'd generate the terrain, water, and air. But that didn't work due to the "considered internal and thus not compatible" bug

After that I can scatter vanilla things like kelp and seagrass, and eventually fake biomes and scatter coral

Actually no need to fake biomes, they're already there!

[delicate trench]

Are you doing this on preview? Cuz I’m not getting that error on stable

[round cosmos]

Yes sorry, forgot to mention it's preview

Using preview scripts for the project so I can't use stable...

[delicate trench]

Ah that makes sense. Well then sadly I can’t help you. :(

I guess I could still send an example for you to look at, but idk what good that would do

[round cosmos]

Yeah that's alright, I'll try create a system in stable and just hope that the preview bugs are just bugs

Oh alr so I've got the columns working again in stable

just wondering how I can check the y value at a single block in a column..?

[delicate trench]

v.worldy is how you get the y coordinate, but it matters where you put it.

[round cosmos]

well I'm putting all columns starting at y=-62

do variables get copied over to "sub features"?

oh well actually that doesn't help

[delicate trench]

Yes, but they don’t get reevaluated unless you redefine them further down the hierarchy.

[round cosmos]

Basically I've got:
Column, distributed everywhere, which places blocks
Block which should determine its type based on some heightmap value

well actually, if I just put two columns stacked using a sequence or something that'd work around the beta bug

[delicate trench]

“Distributed everywhere” could mean many things. How exactly have you set up your column generation?

[round cosmos]

// column_feature_rule.json
{
    "format_version": "1.14.0",
    "minecraft:feature_rules": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "raft:column_feature_rule",
            "places_feature": "raft:column"
        },
        "conditions": {
            "placement_pass": "first_pass",
            "minecraft:biome_filter": {
                "test": "has_biome_tag",
                "operator": "==",
                "value": "overworld"
            }
        },
        "distribution": {
            "iterations": 256,
            "x": {
                "extent": [0, 15],
                "distribution": "fixed_grid"
            },
            "y": "0",
            "z": {
                "extent": [0, 15],
                "distribution": "fixed_grid"
            },
            "scatter_chance": 100
        }
    }
}```

[delicate trench]

You still have to use scatter features to place the columns. There’s no way around it.

[round cosmos]

oh?

I see #1074006708185215096
Did you ever get that stuff functioning?

[delicate trench]

I can’t use that link for whatever reason. Anyway, I’m wrong, there is technically a workaround but it’s pretty cumbersome and kind of taxing on the processing. You set up two feature rules with all the same variables, but each one places a column with a different material and at different starting heights.

[round cosmos]

#1074006708185215096 message

does this link work?

[delicate trench]

Oh I got it

[round cosmos]

Oh sick

I'm happy to use scatter features, just not sure where to start

[delicate trench]

Yeah I got that working like a few days after I posted that

[delicate trench]

I like to think of scatter features as “mini feature rules.” The only real difference I can think of off the top of my head is afaik you can’t filter them with biome tags. You can declare variables in them, do math, use distribution to transform the evaluation point, you name it.

But anyway, you’re already on the right track. You basically just need to declare a sea level constant, some terrain function, an aggregate that holds all column types, and the column features themselves.

[round cosmos]

yep I've got the columns working, but can't figure out how to determine the y value at each block still
(This water is vanilla sea level, not my custom one)

[delicate trench]

I might be able to send you something later, but I’m doing tedious college stuff rn, so who knows? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I’ll help if I can

[round cosmos]

Yeah for sure. I might stop with this for now because I'm getting nowhere

oops

could anyone tell me why my column is only one block thick?

{
    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:scatter_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "raft:column_dirt"
        },
        "iterations": "t.heightmap = 62+(q.noise(v.originz/128,v.originx/128) + q.noise((v.originz+10000)/24,v.originx/24)*0.15)*16; return 3;",
        "places_feature": "raft:block_dirt",
        "x": 0,
        "z": 0,
        "y": {
            "extent": ["t.heightmap-3", "t.heightmap"],
            "distribution": "fixed_grid"
        }
    }
}```