JSON-UI General

[weak lintel]

its driving me crazy

is it because im using chat factory

[opal aurora]

not here

it's in npc_interact_screen.json:message_model/model

[last pollen]

what is jukeboxpopup?

[halcyon egret]

how i can center text in disconnection menu? like the hive..

is there any way to do this in resources pack?

[left yew]

bros banned 😭 ?

[opal aurora]

yes

in disconnect_screen.json:

{
  "disconnect_screen_text": {
    "text_alignment": "center"
  }
}

that screenshot, it's not completely aligned center

[weak lintel]

is there any way to get chat text other than using factory

or making the elements to not stack

"max_children_size" was the one but i made it worse so

[marsh coral]

Srry for ping but how do u change the form texture (not buttons and icons) just the border

[opal aurora]

no..

[weak lintel]

i moved onto title text already

😔

[young dune]

Can you not modifiy your own elements?

[halcyon egret]

thank you!

[halcyon egret]

no, its from google

[oak verge]

the border is not a texture
you can only change it color or remove it

[marsh coral]

Oh how i do that?

[final matrix]

@marsh coral
"custom_form_ui": { "type": "image", "texture": "textures/ui/background", //background texture

        "alpha": "$fill_alpha",
        "controls": [
            {
                "front_overlay": {                    //outer ui texture
                    "type": "image",
                    "texture": "textures/ui/custom_form"
                }
            },
            //close button
            {
                "close_button_holder":{
                    "type": "stack_panel",
                    "anchor_from": "top_left",
                    "anchor_to": "top_left",
                    "$close_button_panel_size":[20, 20],
                    "controls": [{"[email protected]_button": {
                        "controls": [
                            {"[email protected]_button_panel": {"$close_button_texture": "textures/ui/close_button_default"}},
                            {"[email protected]_button_panel": {"$close_button_texture": "textures/ui/close_button_hover"}},
                            {"[email protected]_button_panel": {"$close_button_texture": "textures/ui/close_button_pressed_light"}}
                        ]
                    }}]
                }
            },```

[marsh coral]

Oh thanks but am using server form

[final matrix]

it's server form

[oak verge]

that don't include color changing

[final matrix]

add this

"custom_long_form@common_dialogs.main_panel_no_buttons": {
                    "$title_panel": "common_dialogs.standard_title_label",
                    "$title_size": ["100% - 14px", 10],
                    "size": [322.5, 185],
                    "$text_name": "#title_text",
                    "$title_text_binding_type": "none",
                    "$child_control": "server_form.my_super_custom_panel_main",

                    "$custom_background": "server_form.custom_form_ui",        //custom form ui```

[oak verge]

no...
give me a sec

[final matrix]

yeah I did not add the label

[marsh coral]

Where?

[final matrix]

add the $custom_background

[oak verge]

@marsh coral

and make a custom_form_ui image panel

[marsh coral]

Oh and then i make an image element???

[final matrix]

here

[marsh coral]

Ur doing it on "custom_long_form" and i on "long_form" doesnt matter??

[oak verge]

that just a name

[marsh coral]

Oh ok ill try

Dudeee @final matrix @oak verge thanks guys

I do it

Thank u so much

[oak verge]

ur wlc

[young dune]

anyone able to help? ^

[oak verge]

"your own elements" mean?

[young dune]

I have an image element in one file that has controls, and I want to use that in a new element but also add another control

[oak verge]

maybe modifications is the way
https://wiki.bedrock.dev/json-ui/json-ui-intro.html#modifications

[young dune]

yes this is what Im trying to do but Its saying its an unknown property

[oak verge]

it should look something like this

[young dune]

yeah that is what I have

or does it have to be in root_panel?

[oak verge]

just the panel you are editing

[weak lintel]

HEHEHEHA

[young dune]

so can it not be a image element?

[oak verge]

i have no idea sorry

[oak verge]

good job : )

[weak lintel]

is there a way to actually hide heart_renderer while keeping children elements

setting alpha to 0 doesnt hide the element and it lags as hell if the player's max health is really high

overwriting the type to image and using it as whole works perfectly but it spits out content logs about hardcoded stuff missing

[pulsar hornet]

guys im trying to do a server form, i followed the tutorial of skyls but i cant figure out why i copied all his code but still nothing works

[hexed briar]

eh can't you just remove it and replace it your own stuff instead of relying the heart's element?

[weak lintel]

i want to make use of heart renderer's offset

so that i dont have to rewrite everything that has heart renderer

[hexed briar]

well you can't remove the renderer.

you could replace it's texture maybe

[weak lintel]

nah, textures alone cant prevent the hearts from skyrocketing

[hexed briar]

idk use the modification property to remove the heart element maybe

and insert your own, doesn't have to rewrite anything

not sure what would you need heart element for

[weak lintel]

for that

i mean the game wouldnt yell at me for not having hardcoded stuff, right?

[hexed briar]

it won't.

json-ui does not have any necessary check for every elements to exist.

[weak lintel]

wait

ooooh

[hexed briar]

you can remove anything if you'd like.

as long the element that are referencing is either exist or removed all together

[weak lintel]

when i just rewrote the heart renderer's type it yelled at me for not having renderer

[hexed briar]

and you pretty much have a content log error free.

you can remove with modification elements or simply use ignored on all elements that are related to heart renderer

[weak lintel]

so i have to use modification to replace root_panel/heart_renderer with my stuff... or smth

[hexed briar]

it shouldn't throw any content errors.

[weak lintel]

the latter one is smth i cant do cuz it hides children elements too

but ty ill try smth

[hexed briar]

looking at it, the hotbar element where there's hunger and heart bar isn't exactly a stack panel

since they're panel, you should able to use anchor and offset.

[weak lintel]

yeah i know that, its just that i wanted to keep it very simple

[pulsar hornet]

can someone help me? #1279756411278196778

[broken trail]

@mystic heart I saw you know some things :pp what do you think about?

[tropic badger]

yes and you cant do it directly, you need to do the scuffy way

[broken trail]

I use mostly scuffy ways lol, may I ask about this way then

?

[final matrix]

nice is it like use button to increase and atk button to decrease the bar

[weak lintel]

yeah just as placeholder

[final matrix]

nice

[tropic badger]

may i know what you gonna do with it? like you just gonna change a element collection_index?

[broken trail]

yes just change collection_index

cuz overriding with #collection_index seems to doesnt work

this thing rather returns actual index of collection element

[west dawn]

yeh lol just set it to the desired value

btw collection_index 200 is nice if you want to make a button in every ui do the same thing

or any high unreachable one

[oak verge]

can we combine nine slice and aseprite animations?

[tropic badger]

Okay so the idea is assuming the collection you are using is vanilla and you can use factory with it then you gonna go to factory control_name or the product/element generated of the factory(lets call it "dummy"), you can then go set the binding:

{
  "binding_name": "#collection_index"
  // Just get the collection index
},
{
  "binding_type": "view",
  "source_property_name": "(#collection_index = #num)",
  "target_property_name": "#visible"
}

See the pattern? Its really basic therefore it has alot of flaws, the most important flaw is for example you have a data inside that element "dummy", you can't get it, it will always return to 0. It sucks..

[broken trail]

visiblity based collection, well that was my first idea previously but exactly

you cannot get data from this

like the idea is to have 2 elements and have bindings first and second on them, then instead of adding lets say if statements to every possible option, I wanted to just change but collection index of these first and second elements

then bindings would be same, as I want, just info from collection would change if I would be able to override collection_index not why this method, because this data I want is just undefined, 0

[tropic badger]

What are you trying to use this for exactly?

[gilded rivet]

hi there im tryna create a vignette effect where the screen goes dark. Is it possible to trigger it with tags? or anyways to trigger it to a specific player?

I have made a reload bar but it triggers through the /title command

[rotund spoke]

I'm looking for when the text corresponds to "a.test" it gives me the image someone could help me pls

{
"imageontitle": {
"type": "image",
"size": [150, 150],
"offset": [0, 0],

            "texture": "textures/ui/title",
            "variables": [
              {
                "requires": "(not $title_shadow)",
                "$show_shadow": false
              },
              {
                "requires": "$title_shadow",
                "$show_shadow": true
              }
            ]
          }
        }

is in title in hud_screen

yes but how do you have an example please?

[oak verge]

why json ui? use camera feed color

[hearty robin]

because json ui is the ultimate life form

[oak verge]

the " ultimate life form" is being replaced in some places

[hearty robin]

just wait for it 😉

[gilded rivet]

camera feed color? sorry im new to this

[oak verge]

"ore ui deprecated"

[gilded rivet]

I saw origins by r4isen use json ui vignette for the origins so I'm tryna copy that

[oak verge]

fade*
camera command have a color fade option

/camera <players> fade [time <fadeInSeconds> <holdSeconds> <fadeOutSeconds>] [color <red> <green> <blue>

[gilded rivet]

ahhh I see thankyou

but is there a tutorial for triggering ui?

for example a reload bar after something has been used

[final matrix]

no error but not showing the paperdoll

[weak lintel]

[young dune]

Anyone able to help? https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1279732306881282088

[warm escarp]

#1279831471338688602

[weak lintel]

how do i do replace modification on heart renderer? apparently i cant use heart renderer as control name in root panel modification

[warm escarp]

@oak verge sorry if i ping you but can you help me?

[oak verge]

give me a sec i saw your post

@warm escarp what is the file namespace

[warm escarp]

wait

[snow acorn]

Id like to add a column to this avg's time to learn for Json UI.

Could the JSON UI people give me some check points and how long on avg take to learn them.

[jolly rock]

Does anyone know how to remove letter spacing? please

[oak verge]

split text to panels 🤡
jk i don't think that is possible

[jolly rock]

Terrible to hear that

[final matrix]

I got it 💪

damn my internet

now I will work on the toggle you gave

@oak verge

[oak verge]

nice
what did you change

[final matrix]

I used the start screen now

it's more maintained on start screen

[jolly rock]

Do you have any ideas in mind that would help me optimize this?

[oak verge]

display most repeated color in the background

[jolly rock]

Is dynamic

[torpid whale]

maybe add coords ¯_(ツ)_/¯

or other entity dots ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[oak verge]

so?
you can still do that

[torpid whale]

maybe make the map turn with the player z/x coord??

[oak verge]

he is asking for a way to optimize performance

[torpid whale]

Ohhhhhhhh

Oof

Emmm there probably some offset for the text to make it split and theres probably tick delay built onto it like map so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I only started a couple days ago so its just estimation based on my past experiences with gui

[torpid nymph]

theyre saying to send the first character to the UI as the base colour, that fills the entire panel, then add on everything else pixel by pixel like youre doing now

[oak verge]

@jolly rock are you using text or images?

[mystic heart]

so basically you'd want buttons or some element type that shifts their functionality by changing the collection index. Like buttons A and B are originally 0, 1, then after changing they could be like 4, 5?

I think in this case it's usually easier to change the functionality of what the buttons do on the behavior side of things. Though if you had to do it through UI there is probably a way. I haven't tried to change collection index but you may be able to do it cleanly with a variable if you have a variable that has the data you need. With a binding I'm not sure it'd work. But I think ultimately just changing behavior side of things is the best in most cases

[jolly rock]

Text

[oak verge]

one label?

[jolly rock]

Yea

[narrow fox]

Nice

[narrow fox]

Can you make it so that when the player moves the pixels change pixel by pixel and not a complete refresh?

This will make it look like the player is moving around the map.

[jolly rock]

I like the idea of the player being centred

However, the lag is not due to the loading of the blocks but to the number of symbols on the screen

[narrow fox]

Yes. But if you make the pixels change one by one when moving it, it will make it look like the map is moving and not refreshing.

[jolly rock]

I'm not sure I understand you

[narrow fox]

@oak verge come

I'm sure you can.

[jolly rock]

I don't understand the pixel by pixel part

[oak verge]

instead of updating the text each time
move the text and only update the new ones

mostly from the script side

[narrow fox]

When the player moves, the new pixels are modified and the entire map changes from top to bottom. So I mean it would be better if when the player moves, only the new pixels are updated, not even the unchanged pixels.

[broken trail]

oh yeah, this explanation is good, but lets say these two buttons are originally 0, 1 and after I click on toggle, they change to 2, 3 or other numbers like 6, 6. And the problem is, that these are collection items, and data from bindings is there, not somewhere else in some plain panel element, its dynamically here, if I change 0,1 to 2,3, this data updates and I was, and still trying to get this info

I know that there would be way to add "if statements" for every possible option but lets say there will be range of these both buttons from 0 to 29 - indexes, all possible options should be equal to 30* 30 = 900 panels, now lets say there are 5 texts here so 900 *5 = 4,500 texts on screen, and you see how firstly ugly this is and secondly not efficient, I can say that it would even crash game

Thats why I am trying to figure it out somehow, to avoid these huge numbers to only these dynamic 5 that would set every collection_index update, no need to calculate every possible option, just keep it simple

Finally, this thing is possible by changing collection_index property in both buttons in code, but I rather looking for thing that would add option to somehow interact with it in game

[narrow fox]

My legend

[broken trail]

sorry for late response, @mystic heart explained it pretty well, but I added a few things from me

[mystic heart]

hmm I get what you mean about not wanting so many elements. Though I feel like there is probably an alternative way to set up your behavior and UI to avoid needing to do this. Do you mind if I ask what you're trying to do?

[harsh perch]

What's the name of the hidden variables stored in player data

Dynamic properties nvm

[eager hazel]

dose anyone know how to change the icon of a dummy score?

for example

[tropic badger]

@undone marsh Have you experienced this? UI not closing even after closing pause screen?

As you can see i can now place blocks on the video but the dialog is still appears

[rocky quail]

well that make sense since the toggle from hud isnt pressed when u exit the pause screen using keybinds

you could try adding button mapping that listens to menu_close or menu_exit

and also make the hud always listen input

[weak lintel]

how plausible is it to use chat text for rendering multiple labels at the top right corner

its a bit hard cuz i couldnt do it like how i do with titles and preserved texts

rn it just resets when a random chat appears

and i cant separate the texts for each labels

[hexed briar]

No.

[weak lintel]

:spong:

there goes my efforts!

[hexed briar]

you can't change the chat message like actionbar or title, since the purpose of the chat message element is to create elements with changed text.

it does not replace text or reset the animations.

[weak lintel]

it creates elements

mhm

welp

should i just go back to titles?

[hexed briar]

well your choice tbh

[weak lintel]

i was trying to use chat text since the titles can(cant?) overlap each other and ignore an element from updating sometimes

[hexed briar]

also if you're using a custom dedicated server in any chance with a custom scoreboard stuff, you can create a "multiple labels on the top-right" or hive thing via scoreboard elements.

[weak lintel]

thats prob a very no since i dont have a way to run dedicated servers

[hexed briar]

actionbar/title is also possible too

but it depends on the use case.

[weak lintel]

yeah i was using title before but this was the issue

it needed to be updated every tick

[hexed briar]

You can use preserve text for that

[weak lintel]

i mean yeah i was using preserved texts

with separate labels inside stack panel

[hexed briar]

it doesn't replace the text unless you're using specific string to update it

also this does not work with animation element.

[weak lintel]

it was just that it didnt update an element (only one updates) when two titles happened at once in a tick

ig i could use subtitle for that?

[hexed briar]

not recommended.

[weak lintel]

what if the subtitle element was very related with the title element

[hexed briar]

idk can't you just use static text

[weak lintel]

like title being clock and subtitle being season

[weak lintel]

whars that

[hexed briar]

then use a split text as a value string

[weak lintel]

oh wait

yeah

[hexed briar]

text element without any hardcoded.

or your own text

[weak lintel]

like

a label

just label?

[hexed briar]

just "text": "hello world"

yeah

also language (.lang) works on it too

aswell \n etc

[weak lintel]

ig lang is the only way here

or that

ty ill try

[hexed briar]

you could do something like this

root element
    > stack panel
        > background
            > stack panel (horizonal w/ 100%cm)
                > static text
                > split value text
        > padding (spacing)
        > background
            > stack panel (horizonal w/ 100%cm)
                > static text
                > split value text
        ... (same thing above)

[weak lintel]

ye i did that before

ty

[mystic heart]

pretty plausible. you can use chat text factory and then control each element with #text. One thing to take note of though is that #text is hardcoded in an odd way where it only works for elements that are children (or deeper children) of the factory element, otherwise the binding doesnt work. so i'd copy the vanilla layout first then modify yours from there.

[weary wind]

Someone help me

[weak lintel]

what are you trying

[weary wind]

The notification thing but now the game closes when I put something in the chat

Is there any way to see the crash?

That didn’t happen before haha

[weak lintel]

its hard to know the exact issue without seeing the code

dont send the whole code if youre posting it, just post the chunk of the code for that

[weary wind]

Check your dm

I already solved it

I just want that not to appear haha

If it’s a text without a flag

[weak lintel]

if its made of chat factory with stack panel, you can do conditional rendering

invisible elements inside stack panel will be ignored and dont stack with other panels iirc

[weary wind]

It’s a different panel

[vital edge]

pretty very plausible.

[wraith bluff]

the actionbar?

yes that's the actionbar

[weak lintel]

its in actionbar

im p sure you could

"hud_actionbar_text": {
    "texture": ""
}```

not sure if thatll

overwrite the whole thing and break everything apart

or bite you back with missing texture

"hud_actionbar_text": {
    "alpha": 0
}```
or maybe this?

[tropic badger]

has anyone ever in json ui made a 2d game fully json ui?

[undone marsh]

I made Cookie Clicker

But very unoptomized version

Also without upgrades obv

[true elm]

how doee it work

[tropic badger]

i have the controls now basically, are you seeing what i am seeing?

[tropic badger]

It probably uses actionbars + glyphs smh

[undone marsh]

Flappy bird?

[tropic badger]

yep

except you cant fall

the obstacles dont move

json ui is beautiful

[undone marsh]

Can't you make a continuous anim?

[weak lintel]

@hexed briar the bg image only follows the size of the child label thats on front (or topmost in controls)
if i add a fixed label inside the label_stack in the topmost of controls, it does this

"size": [ "100%c + 8px", "100%c + 4px" ]
this is the size property for bg image

rn the code has the fixed label removed

[hexed briar]

try to debug them first

use a dummy label element with a bindings stuff that you want to debug.

then test stuff accordingly to see how will you display it.

the debug text will always be the same output on operator related

[weak lintel]

got it

[true elm]

how do they read map tho

[oak verge]

for loop over the area
getTopmostBlock
getMapColor

[true elm]

expensive

[oak verge]

yep

[green grail]

Wow haven't visited this channel in a while

[oak verge]

@jolly rock
you have a loop each time you join a world to get all blocks colors...
map them to an already existing object and only do the loop for the blocks that are not mapped

[oak verge]

yeah. too much new stuff
script api and now blocks and items

[green grail]

Def

Glad to see this chat with activity, I'm always amazed with what you guys cook and showcase at #1046947779118895114 lol

[oak verge]

i am new here lol
not even a week playing with json ui

[green grail]

Eh still

[young dune]

anyone able to explain nineslice size?

I guess? Idk im struggling to understand how that file works and what it does with textures

[weak lintel]

you see a big panel when youre in a world loading screen right

[young dune]

yeah i figured that much

and nineslicing I mostly understand I just dont understand it in this format 😅

This helps out ty

ty

[jolly rock]

Save colors in dynamic properties?

[lament kraken]

@lament kraken

[jolly rock]

@jolly rock

[autumn grove]

can someone help me how to fix chest ui? It worked fine but after i loaded 1 more addon that works with serverform the chest ui is stopped working but other addon works fine

[oak verge]

no generate them and type them in script file
yo can use the log to output them

[normal hamlet]

Prob cause you need to merge the server_form.json in both resource packs

[tender flare]

Yoyoyo stop how do you manage to display the item name, please i need this

[weak lintel]

apparently string formatting doesnt like non-english texts

ended up having thousand lines in lang

[tropic badger]

non English text?

you mean like non alphabet?

[weak lintel]

yeah

for some reason when i string formatted non-alphabet texts i got from titles it just

broke

[whole jasper]

complex lol

[jolly rock]

What do you mean by log to output?

[tropic badger]

How?

[autumn grove]

wdym merge

[autumn grove]

how do i do that

[tropic badger]

Do you still have the example? I want to learn how you play animation on toggle on and off.

[pseudo garden]

can someone explain the limitations of json ui to me?

[whole jasper]

Just conditional rendering

          "$anim": "anim_art.profile_start_anim_close_1",
          "bindings": [
            {
              "binding_type": "view",
              "source_control_name": "profile_toggle_open",
              "source_property_name": "#toggle_state",
              "target_property_name": "#toggle_state"
            },
            {
              "binding_type": "view",
              "source_property_name": "(#state+(#toggle_state*(not #state)))",
              "target_property_name": "#state"
            },
            {
              "binding_type": "view",
              "source_property_name": "(#state*(not #toggle_state))",
              "target_property_name": "#collection_length"
            }
          ]

I don't use 1 toggle, I use toggle group, I think it's easier

[weary wind]

Could someone help me?

[rocky quail]

is this for increasing a factory collection length?

[weak lintel]

does anyone why conditional rendering does not work on a preserved title

ok i should be more specific

the title factory here is triggered by different titles even though the $update_string is completely different

like its entirely separated

its not the case for the similar element with different bindings though

[weak lintel]

tl;dr:
unrelated runInterval title triggers factory

oh wait

im so stupid why am i setting visible property in factory

[weak lintel]

this, in fact, was not the problem

[tropic badger]

me personally i would've used scoreboards for the top right thingy

so you dont overload the title

[weak lintel]

i couldnt find any good examples for it

so i just decided to use titles

[final matrix]

do I need to make a diff texture for creative

it works fine in survival?

their is less than 1 px gap in survival inv as well

[broken trail]

yeah, here is video what I mean exactly, its about hotbars, if I would do this manually for each possible option the possible amount isnt that huge because 9*9 but still, I rather prefer to somehow figure out way to flip bindings with collection_indexes, I wonder if I can create 9 elements with visibility bindings and same name, then I could somehow get binding data from one that is actually visible, I doubt if this would work because names should be unique, even it throws errors or warning so yeah... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191469954785104005/1280584630361264249/Record_2024-09-03-19-44-29_5c8300b655012b1930f2e0a7b81bf6a9.mp4

[mystic heart]

mb 😦

[mystic heart]

I'm a bit confused by which part of the video refers to the collection indexes. The item in the top right showing the last item you held in the hotbar slot? So like setting the collection index of that element?

[broken trail]

element A, B

in this example its 1 and 2 slot

and now we back to, if I click on toggle, I change slot 1 to slot 3, in other words, change collection_index from 1 to 3

I would use other thing for this instead of toggle, but if toggle would work, everything else will work too

its like slot swapper based on 2 buttons, both of them have these collections of course

this example is also currently using stack panel with collection_name and childs with collection_index, classic layout

visibility of them is just yeah, unnecessary thing to explain

and these are just 2 buttons

[tropic badger]

dude just use collection_panels

ig

basically what i would do is just have a toggle there that could increment a number

[broken trail]

the logic at the end is literally same btw

[broken trail]

yeah, pretty easy until you realize you cannot really increment a collection_index number, that's the thing I am asking about, I used #collection_index which by name makes sense, but everything it does is return of actual index, you cannot really override this binding, at least I tried with target_property_name, binding_name_override which should do the same actually, and with property_bags, the value is int and yeah, this was throwing only errors

I couldnt find anything like this in previous messages here or in documentation, and couldnt figure it out by testing, the last help is here actually, if anyone wont really help in some way in this case I will just use $variable set in collection_index, pretty poor way at the end of the day but it at least works

[wind walrus]

are those cobblemon textures?

[graceful elbow]

which file allows you to change the scoreboard sidebar to the left of your screen not right?

[mystic heart]

Sorry I just saw this. It may be possible but I don't know how you would change the collection index with bindings. What you could do though, in this example, is wrap the hotbar element in a panel so it can be offset, then change the anchored x offset binding based off where it should be for its "collection index". So instead of changing the actual index, you are just shifting the positions of the elements.

[tropic badger]

Yeah and clips them

that make sense

[broken trail]

owh yeah

just offsets and clip panel

great idea, idk how I didnt come up with this earlier

but in general, we back to the old but not really god way to literally hide elements lol

only thing Im wondering is button mapping outside hidden clip panel

[unique swan]

Hello

[broken trail]

if user would be able to click these buttons

[unique swan]

How can I change the size of the text edit box?

[narrow fox]

How can I make the namespace accept long_form and custom_form together?

[cunning bridge]

is there a way to eliminate the lag generated by invisible elements in the server_form screen, i am trying to port my in-game encyclopedia from the how to play screen to the server form, but it's too large and affects the other forms.

[mystic heart]

if you do find a way to change the collection index bindings let me know. im very curious

[mystic heart]

If you want to you can change it to using a variation of ignored instead of using visibility. It's a lot more efficient. It can mess a bit with your sizing and offset though. Instead of using #visible, use the #collection_length binding with a stack panel factory, and have your main panel form as the only child generated by this. Just make sure to multiply all booleans in your binding by 1 so they convert to an int properly. Lemme find an example I had

#old-json-ui message

An example from the old UI chat. I set up a large scale more dynamic system with this for an experimental project I did and it worked really well. Basically no lag on any devices despite some pretty big elements that included renderers.

[chilly yacht]

So

I needed something like this too

But what exactly is it doing?

[mystic heart]

It's setting the amount of elements in the factory to 0 or 1, so it's equivalent to the sense of ignored in the sense that it doesnt exist when the collection length is 0

[chilly yacht]

So its only generating the ones that have a certain name

[mystic heart]

In that example yeah. But I was just helping someone set up an element for their project. The binding could be anything as long as it returns a boolean or int

[cunning bridge]

this sounds...complicated, i might look into that

[mortal monolith]

minecraft trailer?

[mystic heart]

It's not as bad as it sounds haha. Only annoying part is you might need to change some anchors and offsets for your panel after updating

[outer bridge]

It’s really not that bad once you start using it haha. I still maintain that using stack panel factories like that is superior for conditional rendering performance.

[chilly yacht]

Do you mind helping me in a little?

[mystic heart]

sure

[broken trail]

its like ignored property that actually doesnt render element, #visible was only hiding it and it was still in background

also once element is rendered animation of factory child always run

[broken trail]

uh there is info already about this well

[broken trail]

in general I don't think this is possible, there isnt any binding that could override it, execpt #collection_index which is read-only I guess

there might be some literally random way but I would rather keep my hair on head than searching for such thing for at least a few weeks

[tropic badger]

There may not be a huge performance difference on hiding an element versus completely making it disappear, i think using factories is just not quite practical basing on the traditional sense.

[broken trail]

nah, if you have a lot, I mean a lot elements in screen, then this have visible impact, you can see how frametime or fps change to better values when you hide something by this method

and it's also really great for elements in paper doll, not just skin but 10x more elements here

[cunning bridge]

it is not working ```js
{"info_page": {
"type": "stack_panel",
"collection_name": "skypedia",

    "factory":{
      "name": "skypedia_factory",
      "control_name": "guidebook.red_box"
    },
    "property_bag": {
            "#stack_count": 1
        },
        "bindings": [
      {
        "binding_type": "view",
        "source_property_name": "((not((#form_text - '§skypedia') = #form_text) * 1) * 1)",
        "target_property_name": "#collection_length"
      }
    ]
  }}```

the element doesn't appear at all but i still get the lag from it

[hexed briar]

used this before and can probably confirm that it does indeed improve quite alot of performance considering that it works familiarly with ignored property.

Also, this can also be used to reload element directly if you able to change it's element #collection_length such as toggle or something else. which, I've used that for some animations.

the con with that is, it's stack panel. not really a regular panel, therefore dynamic size kinda breaks in there and may involve in some hacky stuff. — honestly, not really worth it unless you're using too many elements for it to save performance.

[tropic badger]

Im talking about in general, like why would you things quite complex

Also another con is like theres a bug where you can't really get datas properly on factory child element if you had like 3 elements inside it

Like you could add a binding to that child element that it will only be the element be generated so you could get data from it but yeah it doesnt quite work like that ig

Now thinking about is things starting to make sense..

I think hidden elements, you can still get data from it so i can't get my data properly, mayhaps theres a workaround

#ignored doesn't seem to exist

it just all sucks

[broken trail]

it exists but doesnt work

[broken trail]

binding_condition: always should work

because by default its always_when_visible

so with hidden element with default value, when are trying to get data, you should get last data or null, nothing basically

[cunning bridge]

what's wrong in this code? why does nothing appear?

[broken trail]

Hey! I figured it out without either collection_index override which isnt really possible and clip_children property. I started to mess around sliders and their values and finally created list of 2 elements, these elements are hotbar grids with 1-9 slots. I had problem with one thing, previously I used used #slot_selected to show first slot (1) and vice versa, juggling visible property around 2 buttons to show only 1 in HUD.

In video here I cannot just use #slot_selected for all 9 slots because it always returned 1. I had no ability to check if first slot is selected or not. Then sliders values comes, but also I crated data panel with bindings to check if each slot is selected:

if (slider_value = 0 and selected_slot = 0) = #is_slot0
repeat 9 times to get list of bidnings up to
if (slider_value = 8 and selected_slot = 8) = #is_slot8
then for first button, or just whole set of slots

            {
              "binding_type": "view",
              "source_property_name": "(not (#is_slot0 or #is_slot1 or #is_slot2 or #is_slot3 or #is_slot4 or #is_slot5 or #is_slot6 or #is_slot7 or #is_slot8)",
              "target_property_name": "#is_first_slot_visible"
            },
            {
              "binding_type": "view",
              "source_property_name": "#is_first_slot_visible",
              "target_property_name": "#visible"
            }

and this for second button, again whole set of second slots

          "bindings": [
            {
              "binding_type": "view",
              "source_control_name": "bb_mod_is_first_slot",
              "source_property_name": "(not #is_first_slot_visible)",
              "target_property_name": "#visible"
            }
          ]

These are basically final bindings for 2 lists but before these lists have same template for hotbars slots:

            {
              "@bb_hud_features.slot_swap_default_item_template": {
                "collection_index": 0,
                "bindings": [
                  {
                    "binding_type": "view",
                    "source_control_name": "$item_slider_control_name",
                    "source_property_name": "(#slider_value = 0)",
                    "target_property_name": "#visible"
                  }
                ]
              }
            },
            ...repeat until you reach collection_index: 8

where slot_swap_default_item_template is literally what you see on HUD and in general its in collection stack_panel

and as you can see first item swap button is always visible when you select slot that isnt value of first or second slider

[opal aurora]

huh, what is this for

hotbar quick switcher? hmm

while i can just collection_index = slider_value

[broken trail]

yeah and after do you this, you realize that collection_index cannot really override anything and it's professionally I guess read-only

it does nothing or just throw errors

[limpid quarry]

Question, how does one make a chestformdata compatible with another chestformdata that are overwriting each other? I have been using herobrines chestform system (modified) but don't know why the ui will take the other addons resource design ui instead of the one I set it for..

[broken trail]

I just checked it right now, because I might add bindings to stack panel instead of its child, but yeah

I added it right now to child and nothing

[gentle orchid]

Hey, dudes! Quick question: Is it possible to strictly kill a specific element when a condition is met? 🤔 (Imagine a situation where you trigger a preserved text title, then you can send other titles and it won't be removed, but once you run a specific string to kill, it removes it and you can run any other title and it won't reappear until you send the update string again)

[opal aurora]

yes, read-only, you still can override it with actual collection_index property, but not its bindings

[broken trail]

how may I ask?

[opal aurora]

inside a collection item (could be from factory), add "collection_index" and a number

[broken trail]

uh this, just property yeah I know but with this I cannot change it by sliders, just in-game

then I tried override it with bindings, especially #collection_index because name makes sense

[broken trail]

didnt work, so I done it like here

[opal aurora]

you can't override collection index through bindings, only by adding this

so what i did is collection_index = slider_value

[broken trail]

uh just to slider value, nah slider wont work and that is exact opposite for what I am looking

[opal aurora]

i still don't know what are you doing with it

[broken trail]

with it? nothing, to use sliders I need bindings, collection_index cannot be overriden by bindings or even used here

so I done literally same logic without this property like on video above

and I can use sliders to control collection index, but under the hood, not really but final result is same

[vale turtle]

Hello i have a question for some reason my cape isnt showing? is there something i need to add or do to let the cape show? Im currently rendering paper_doll_renderer

[unkempt steppe]

is it possible to make a custom grid pattern like in the screenshot having only 3 slots at the bottom for example
i tried putting a separate hopper-like design at the bottom but the items are mirrored of the first 5 slots instead of having their own slots

[blazing sonnet]

Is there a way to modify the texture or, being more specific, the content of this box?

[mystic heart]

How were you using #form_text before? That binding in particular has a lot of odd properties associated with it and requires it to be called from a factory initially with a hardcoded name in order to work. It might not work in a factory binding either, I never tested. I would recommend using #title_text. Much more consistent

[blazing sonnet]

the content of the item's hover

[mystic heart]

Yeah this is an unfortunate downside. The one time I used it large at scale I had a ton of renderers and it worked very well to increase performance on that.

[blazing sonnet]

No
I want to modify the purple box where the name and category of the item are located

[mystic heart]

Oh very nice. Glad you got it working! That's a cool setup

[blazing sonnet]

it's not
the texture is called purpleBorder I think
but I want to modify what is inside it

do you know how?

Please open any way to display the item id aux in that box?

[coarse torrent]

is it possible to move a value of a property into a variable somehow?

[blazing sonnet]

I've looked for it and couldn't find it
The texture apparently is nowhere to be found.
I looked for it several times but I was not successful in finding it so I did not find the code.

I found that one too
The problem is that it only modifies the box when on mobile.
on pc it doesn't work

Yeah
only you can't place the item aux id
well anyway thank you

[tropic badger]

There is actually an element for it called collection_panel, i mostly use it for smaller scale of elements

[mystic heart]

wth. when did they add this? or have i just missed it lol

[tropic badger]

They've added it i think on they released the other types of skins

along with the image_cycler and label_cycler

[mystic heart]

oh wow I guess I did miss it. So does it work like a normal panel in the sense it doesnt stack elements?

[tropic badger]

It works like a normal panel but with collection property which is really amazing

[mystic heart]

ah wow that's awesome. I've been wanting them to add that for a while now. Thanks for letting me know!

[torpid whale]

whats the name for the loading screen in minecraft?

[mortal monolith]

progress_screen.json?

[torpid whale]

ima look

ya thats it ty

[cobalt laurel]

when switching items, this popup appears yeah?

is it possible to change the duration of how long it stays? (ping me when you reply)

[distant gorge]

yep possible

[cobalt laurel]

o

how so? what am i looking for

[distant gorge]

wait

im in game

[cobalt laurel]

alright

[weary wind]

Could you help me?

[cunning bridge]

do you have a working example i can run tests on? i have no idea on how to make it work right now.

[fathom mica]

does anyone know how to fix this error? texture doesn't load and just shows missing texture

[hexed briar]

the game is unable to read the texture.

try to move or reinsert your texture.

[fathom mica]

ok

[fathom mica]

it works, thanks, I think it's because I copied the texture with the 'cut' option

[limpid quarry]

DOESN'T MATER WHAT TITLE I SPECIFY THE FORM ALWAYS CHANGES.... NOT SURE WHY

{
  "namespace": "server_form",


  "long_form": {
    "type": "panel",
    "size": ["100%", "100%"],
    "controls":[

      {

        "long_form@common_dialogs.main_panel_no_buttons": {
          "$title_panel": "common_dialogs.standard_title_label",
          "$title_size": [ "100% - 14px", 10 ],
          "size": [400, 200],
          "$text_name": "#title_text",
          "$title_text_binding_type": "none",
          "$child_control": "server_form.long_form_panel",
          "layer": 2,
          "bindings":[
            {
              "binding_name": "#title_text"
            },
            {
              "binding_type":"view",
              "source_property_name": "(#title_text = 'Custom Form')",
              "target_property_name": "#visibile"
            }
          ]
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

Doesn't seem to matter what title text i put for the forms, it always modifies all of them... not sure why

i could name it john and it still would change the size to 400 which it shouldn't

the titel text doesn't seem to be linking

custom form gets modified

but john shouldn't get modified......

john should be normal

what?

i added for john

new json

{
  "namespace": "server_form",


  "long_form": {
    "type": "panel",
    "size": ["100%", "100%"],
    "controls":[

      {

        "long_form@common_dialogs.main_panel_no_buttons": {
          "$title_panel": "common_dialogs.standard_title_label",
          "$title_size": [ "100% - 14px", 10 ],
          "size": [400, 200],
          "$text_name": "#title_text",
          "$title_text_binding_type": "none",
          "$child_control": "server_form.long_form_panel",
          "layer": 2,
          "bindings":[
            {
              "binding_name": "#title_text"
            },
            {
              "binding_type":"view",
              "source_property_name": "(#title_text = 'Custom Form')",
              "target_property_name": "#visibile"
            }
          ]
        }
      },
      {

        "long_form@common_dialogs.main_panel_no_buttons": {
          "$title_panel": "common_dialogs.standard_title_label",
          "$title_size": [ "100% - 14px", 10 ],
          "size": [225, 200],
          "$text_name": "#title_text",
          "$title_text_binding_type": "none",
          "$child_control": "server_form.long_form_panel",
          "layer": 2,
          "bindings":[
            {
              "binding_name": "#title_text"
            },
            {
              "binding_type":"view",
              "source_property_name": "(#title_text = 'john')",
              "target_property_name": "#visibile"
            }
          ]
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

why would it modify every form?

[hexed briar]

try to change the operator (#title_text = 'Custom Form') into something like this (not(#title_text - 'Custom Form') = #title_text)

[limpid quarry]

so its the logic/

ok ill try this

[hexed briar]

it should be able to fetch or detect correctly. since title does also have some § and couple of things so. having just equal to that string will definitely not work.

[limpid quarry]

oh really?

[hexed briar]

well they usually do have § so yeah

[limpid quarry]

so do i need to put that at the front then?

and then check by that name?

[hexed briar]

eh, just switch into this one

[limpid quarry]

the §john or §Custom Form

[hexed briar]

it's better than literally finding on which symbol will ever work

[limpid quarry]

oh lol, okay so use the not logic

[hexed briar]

this one will only detect the contained string so yeah, not the whole string

[limpid quarry]

awhhh ok ty that might work let me try!

rip

what did i do wrong?

{
  "namespace": "server_form",


  "long_form": {
    "type": "panel",
    "size": ["100%", "100%"],
    "controls":[

      {

        "long_form@common_dialogs.main_panel_no_buttons": {
          "$title_panel": "common_dialogs.standard_title_label",
          "$title_size": [ "100% - 14px", 10 ],
          "size": [400, 200],
          "$text_name": "#title_text",
          "$title_text_binding_type": "none",
          "$child_control": "server_form.long_form_panel",
          "layer": 2,
          "bindings":[
            {
              "binding_name": "#title_text"
            },
            {
              "binding_type":"view",
              "source_property_name": "(not(#title_text - 'Custom Form') = #title_text)",
              "target_property_name": "#visibile"
            }
          ]
        }
      },
      {

        "long_form@common_dialogs.main_panel_no_buttons": {
          "$title_panel": "common_dialogs.standard_title_label",
          "$title_size": [ "100% - 14px", 10 ],
          "size": [225, 200],
          "$text_name": "#title_text",
          "$title_text_binding_type": "none",
          "$child_control": "server_form.long_form_panel",
          "layer": 2,
          "bindings":[
            {
              "binding_name": "#title_text"
            },
            {
              "binding_type":"view",
              "source_property_name": "(not(#title_text - 'john') = #title_text)",
              "target_property_name": "#visibile"
            }
          ]
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

[hexed briar]

it kinda worked

although you forgot the vanilla forms.

[limpid quarry]

oh?

[hexed briar]

you'd need something like ((#title_text - 'john' - 'Custom form') = #title_text) on the vanilla ones

which, it should hide the vanilla forms on which string you use.

[limpid quarry]

oh geeze

still confused

lol

[hexed briar]

kinda like — "Hello world" will display the custom form at the same time hide the vanilla form

you'll need those two check on vanilla and the custom form.

[limpid quarry]

hmm ok

[hexed briar]

vanilla form should not have not or custom form should have not in operator thing

etc

hard to explain but discord's search feature exists and there's ton of template everywhere you could look at.

[limpid quarry]

yeah, the issue is i was following dingsel tutorial and it wasn't working how he specified lol

did json ui update recently?

i know it doesn't get updated often

[hexed briar]

nope

[limpid quarry]

hmm ok

[hexed briar]

it doesn't since 1.18 or 1.19 i think

the last update is 3 new element types.

[limpid quarry]

8 months ago he made the video

oh ok

[hexed briar]

( which i don't think it'll be anything useful to you )

look at #1072983602821861426

you might find some server form's template and stuff you could look and trial-and-error with your custom forms

[limpid quarry]

hmm ok ty

json ui is the next beast to learn so im painfullly learning

[hexed briar]

if you done custom items, blocks or entity via .json before, it should be kinda understandable for you

[limpid quarry]

yeah

plenty, its just annoying about these linking

[hexed briar]

json-ui is just that.

[limpid quarry]

fair

alright

we can do this lol

[hexed briar]

it's kinda weird to read since it does like a file manager path stuff

[limpid quarry]

yeah

[hexed briar]

which, we call them elements

[limpid quarry]

ok

[limpid quarry]

figured it out!! ty

working good now

[limpid quarry]

can someone help me with this error?

[UI][error]-UI Control: long_form | UI Control: long_form | UI Control: panel_indent | UI Control: inside_header_panel | UI Control: long_form_dynamic_buttons_panel | UI Control: custom_button | UI Control: form_button | UI Control: locked | UI Control: button_content | On Control Path: /third_party_server_screen/variables_button_mappings_and_controls/safezone_screen_matrix/inner_matrix/safezone_screen_panel/root_screen_panel/long_form/long_form/panel_indent/inside_header_panel/long_form_dynamic_buttons_panel/custom_button/form_button/locked/button_content/common_buttons.new_ui_binding_button_label | Data bindings must have at least one property to bind!

everything works...

just shows this binding error

thing

[limpid quarry]

where am i missing a binding name?

just that error, plus im not sure how to add padding, scrolling

[limpid quarry]

im just trying to actually learn this stuff rather then just take other code and throw it around, i want to understand why something throws an error, or this and that

[west dawn]

Its not a reall issue with your code but in the newer minecraft versions you get more json ui warnings.
The warning is because "$button_text": "" is empty. you can just fill anything in there as long as its something. I choose #null #1250944967950733483 message

[limpid quarry]

ohhhhh ok ty

legend! great series!

[west dawn]

thanks

[limpid quarry]

fixed the error! at least i know now

this is so cool

obviously not the setup itself but the backend function (how it works)

[oak verge]

me jumping from file to file to track a variable

[oak verge]

now do textures 👀

[limpid quarry]

rip

lol

[oak verge]

that the easy part lol

[limpid quarry]

oh reallly? lmao

dang ok

i just need to link the custom texture to the custom long form right

if i want different designs

[oak verge]

this code have some comments that can help
#1280301965271896124 message

as i said
you just have to track what the form is calling and see if there any variable that is responsible for textures
if it is "$x|defult" you can just assign new path to it in your custom form
"$x": "texture/ui/..."

[limpid quarry]

thats very helpful ty

[oak verge]

can we rotate 3d_structure_renderer view

[weary wind]

…

[slim forge]

My aseprite anim is not working

"spark_test_bar_template": {
"type": "image",
"texture": "textures/ui/features/bar",
"anchor_from": "left_middle",
"anchor_to": "left_middle",
"size": [69, 28],
"uv_size": [69, 28],
"uv": "@flip_book_animation"
},

"flip_book_animation": {
"anim_type": "aseprite_flip_book",
"duration": 7,
"frame_count": 1,
"initial_uv": [0, 0]
},

[tropic badger]

@broken trail I saw your item counter on better bedrock discord using only JSON-UI so i remade it myself, no lags spikes(as you said at that server) at all and it's kinda cool.

You're probably using complex operations

Or just Better Bedrock UI, theres too much element in HUD

[cobalt laurel]

bump

[tropic badger]

Try this
ui_common.json:

{
  "anim_item_details_alpha": {
    "duration": 2 // Change this, its in second(s)
  }
}

If didn't work:
hud_screen.json:

{
  "item_name_text": {
    "$wait_duration": 3 // Change this, its in second(s)
  }
}

[cobalt laurel]

both aren't working

[opal aurora]

did you tried with repeating /give command blocks?

[tropic badger]

is that will change anything?

i mean i could try

[mystic heart]

Sorry for late response I was out earlier. Have you tried the example you posted with #title_text replacing form text, then using the title of the form? Or what's your current code that isn't working? I don't have any great examples other than the one I sent bc they my setups are pretty generalized/templated

[cunning bridge]

ok, i will try to use title_text, what i am trying to do is simple, if there is a certain tag in the body (or title), hide the form and display an element

that element i am trying to display happened to be an entire encyclopedia

[mystic heart]

ah gotcha. yeah try to use #title_text and lemme know if it works

[coarse torrent]

is it possible to set the variables property to an array via bindings?

[cunning bridge]

you can save arrays in variables, but you can't use variables inside arrays

[cunning bridge]

 {
                "info_screen": {
          "type": "stack_panel",
          "size": [400, 260],
          "collection_name": "skypedia",
          "property_bag": { "#stack_count": 1 },
          "factory":{
            "name": "skypedia_factory",
            "control_name": "server_form.skypedia"
          },
              "bindings": [
            {
              "binding_type": "view",
              "source_property_name": "((not((#title_text - '§qInformation') = #title_text) * 1) * 1)",
              "target_property_name": "#collection_length"
            }
          ]
                }
            }

Now this works, but it still lags all the other forms

[coarse torrent]

i know i meant something like
if(toggled)
variables: $myvars

but like in bindings logic

[cunning bridge]

do you mean something like this?

am not sure if i understand

[coarse torrent]

yeah but i don't want to modify the visible prop, i want to modify the variables prop

[cunning bridge]

ah, got it, maybe, you can try that

but you know that toggles return booleans, not arrays

[coarse torrent]

yeah i know, that's why i'm asking if there's another way to do that

[cunning bridge]

i am not too familiar with the variables property, sorry

[cunning bridge]

i don't think it's possible to set any property values of the type array, like color, size, and offset, so i would assume the same applies to the variables property.

[coarse torrent]

yeah seems so

[cunning bridge]

what are you trying to do with that?

i might have a workaround

[coarse torrent]

i want to increment a variable everytime a toggle is toggled

something like this
"abc":{
"$count": 0,
"$vars1":[
{
"requires": true,
"$count": "($count + 1)"
}
],
"bindings":[
{
"binding_type":"view",
"source_property_name":"((#toggle_state * 0) + $vars1)",
"target_property_name":"#variables"
}
]
}

obviously this doesn't work

[tropic badger]

@opal aurora

[cunning bridge]

i have seen someone do this with factories, let me find the message

That took me so long 😦
#1214695629503209492 message

[coarse torrent]

thanks

[mystic heart]

it still lags all the other forms when its set to 0?

[cunning bridge]

set what to 0?

[mystic heart]

the collection length

or ignored basically

[cunning bridge]

do i set manually and see?

[mystic heart]

you can try that yeah

[cunning bridge]

it still lags everything

even tho the element doesn't show

[mystic heart]

are you sure it isn't your other forms that are also lagging? you may need to apply this factory method to them as well

[cunning bridge]

certainly, i have an empy form that loads instantly, but takes 2 seconds to load when i activate the form i am working on

[mystic heart]

wait I'm confused. Certainly it is your other forms as well, or not?

[cunning bridge]

certainly it's not the other forms that cause the lag

you asked me if i am sure, and i answered certainly 🤷‍♂️

[mystic heart]

if you remove your form completely, the one you added the stack panel factory for, does it still lag?

[cunning bridge]

no

which is confusing me

[mystic heart]

how did u set the collection length manually?

[cunning bridge]

{
              "binding_type": "view",
              "source_property_name": "(0)",
              // "source_property_name": "((not((#title_text - '§qInformation') = #title_text) * 1) * 1)",
              "target_property_name": "#collection_length"
            }```

[mystic heart]

it won't work like that. you need to set a property bag binding value to 0 and ujse that in place

[cunning bridge]

         "property_bag": {
            "#collection_length": 0
          }

it still lags

                "info_screen": {
          "type": "stack_panel",
          "size": [400, 260],
          "collection_name": "skypedia",
          "factory":{
            "name": "skypedia_factory",
            "control_name": "server_form.skypedia"
          },
          "property_bag": {
            "#collection_length": 0
          }
              // "bindings": [
        //     {
        //       "binding_type": "view",
        //       // "source_property_name": "((not((#title_text - '§qInformation') = #title_text) * 1) * 1)",
        //       "target_property_name": "#collection_length"
        //     }
        //   ]
                }

[cunning bridge]

that's weird, i set it to 1 and got the same results as 0

[vale turtle]

Guys i have a question when i use live_player_renderer and add animation to it my cape doesnt show up anymore without animation it does show up

[mystic heart]

Hmm try setting a custom binding to 0 and then using it in source_property to set the collection length. That is strange though

[cunning bridge]

it still lags

i am starting to doubt that this method works in the first place...

[mystic heart]

I haven't used anything with it in a while but it was definitely working for me last time I used it

[weak lintel]

just gotta make sure, does "max_children_size" in chat factory also check for elements that are not visible?
also how do i use chat factory even if the chat is disabled (i asked this one before but i didnt get a clear answer for it)

[tropic badger]

No to both questions

[weak lintel]

mfw

[opal aurora]

same performance as mine, lags when in inventory

[vale turtle]

?

[weak lintel]

weird question but what happens if i use panel instead of stack panel for chat factory

[tropic badger]

nothing, other than the fact it would act as a panel

like no stacking

[weak lintel]

exactly what i needed

ty

[coarse torrent]

is there a way to detect hovering? like if some element is being hovered then some property is set to true

[narrow fox]

Why when I use

"font_type": "MinecraftTen",

and put \n for the text in the script the font is cancelled?

[tropic badger]

yes

[narrow fox]

What do you mean by "yes"?
It's a question. I want to know why.

[tropic badger]

font can't break the line so they break the font instead

[narrow fox]

Oh. Anyway. In font_size is there a value between "small" and "normal"?
Or is there only small, normal and big?

[tropic badger]

use "font_scale_factor" for more precise sizing

[narrow fox]

Does it work with numbers?

[tropic badger]

ye

[narrow fox]

How much is the size between small and normal?

[tropic badger]

haven't checked, i dont know

[narrow fox]

Ok

[weak lintel]

is item lore ui entirely hardcoded

the text you see when you hover your cursor on the item

[hexed briar]

it is hardcoded.

you could create your own one, although the issue with that is the element will probably shake around instead of following the cursor properly.

or reuse the item lore's element, also will resolve the shaking issues with the cost of translation strings not working.

it's just between pills.

[weak lintel]

well

ig removing the attack damage number is not very easy

[hexed briar]

yeah it won't. item lores are just one string with multiple strings attached.

[weak lintel]

only if they added translation key on attack damage
attribute.name.generic.attackDamage=Attack Damage

[hexed briar]

you could use split text on it maybe

or maybe clip children property just to hide them

[weak lintel]

sounds too janky

[hexed briar]

that's json-ui to you tbh

a wild west of literally nothing but trial and errors

[weak lintel]

all of those just to change axe damage and add a new line

wishing for data-driven vanilla items so that i dont have to touch json ui

[hexed briar]

also since the item lore is more of one string with multiple strings, you could in theory remove some specified strings.

although the lang aren't or may not work well

i haven't tested that, but there's some projects that ive currently working for uses translation string with condition rendering and it works flawlessly for some reason

Also, can't you just add your own item lore via script-api?

[weak lintel]

i can but

[weak lintel]

_ _

[hexed briar]

eh i guess that's kinda on mojang

[weak lintel]

i mean i can just do "but with this addon..." and then add new lines for damage and others

but i cant set lore for items thats not in players inventory

and it looks way too cheap tbh

[hexed briar]

the lack of data-driven item lore is astounding

[coarse torrent]

ok another question, is it possible that when a user hovers over a certain area, a toggle gets clicked or something , i'm not familiar with button mappings but could it be possible with that?

[broken trail]

multiply this for 4 items, add color indicators as option - text is color when 1/4 red 2/4 orange 3/4 yellow 4/4 green also for each text and additionaly I use it to calculate how many slots are left with same color option so in general multiple it 5 times

then we can talk about performance, I also use method to completely remove it from screen and when I am clicking this button I literally see small lag spike when its enabled/disabled

[broken trail]

yeah

for me once I run give command every 1 tick, fps drops "a bit"

[limpid quarry]

Is animations based off an image, worh frames? Like if I wanted to scroll through items like a win daily thing, how do I animate that?

Anyone have example animations pack?

I've just finished all the form json ui tutorials by dingsel, and that was fun.

[autumn talon]

How can I change the background of the form?

{
  "namespace": "server_form",
  "$schema": "https://kalmemarq.github.io/Bugrock-JSON-UI-Schemas/ui.schema.json",
  "long_form@common_dialogs.main_panel_no_buttons": {
    "$title_panel": "common_dialogs.standard_title_label",
    "$title_size": [
      "100% - 14px",
      10
    ],
    "$text_name": "#title_text",
    "$title_text_binding_type": "none",
    "$child_control": "server_form.long_form_panel",
    "texture": "textures/ui/effect_background",
    "alpha": 0.7,
    "layer": 2
  }
}

i try use "bacground_color", but that not work

pls help me

[cunning bridge]

can we replace substrings with a text into images? like emojis ? i want to convert the text in the left to the one on the right.

like i want to replace "\n- " with "\n" and place an image on it.

[weak lintel]

why not just use glyphs?

[cunning bridge]

what is that?

[weak lintel]

its the emojis in minecraft

you might remember icons in minecraft encyclopedia

[cunning bridge]

yeah i know those

[weak lintel]

yep its those

[cunning bridge]

but the thing is i want the emoji length to be 0 and i want it offseted to the lefr

so the warping text doesn't fall backward

[weak lintel]

hmm

you could just add space on there

[weak lintel]

i cant really imagine tbis in my head but most of the texts can be adjusted with spaces

[cunning bridge]

i can't, i don't know when the text will warp

it's the body of a server form.

[weak lintel]

oof

[weak lintel]

oh

[cunning bridge]

the word is wrap not warp, my bad

[tropic badger]

what do you mean on color indicators?

you cant do #color

[weary wind]

Question in actionbar can you use bindings

[cunning bridge]

i think you use visible

"$action_text": "$actionbar_text",
    "visible": "(not ($action_text - '§biome' = $action_text))"

[chilly yacht]

No

Well theres no actionbar binding its just a variable

[weary wind]

Hahhaa

[hexed briar]

Apparently server forms are really that hardcoded.

the factory element for both custom/long forms must contains server_form_factory as a element or it won't work, at all.

ive changed vanilla's server_form_factory into something else while keeping the whole element the same and yeah it doesn't work.

pretty strange considering you can do the same as several factories like actionbar or title and works perfectly fine

[coarse torrent]

Is it possible to get the head rotation of the paper_doll?

[opal aurora]

no, only entire paper doll

[coarse torrent]

How to do that?

@opal aurora

[broken trail]

if value is 25% of max like there are 12 totems in inventory its 25% of max slots that are 36, so I change text color to green

then if 50% to orange, then 75% yellow, and above is green

[broken trail]

yeah, then think how I done it

and then multiply this by 5

[opal aurora]

"camera_tilt_degrees": -10,
"starting_rotation": 30,

or any other numbers between -360 ~ 360

[toxic comet]

when is ore ui getting released?

[left yew]

no eta

[toxic comet]

this is insanity

how does one even work with json ui

who does that bro

[left yew]

goodcat

[weak lintel]

with insanity

[tropic badger]

theres no such word as "sane" working with json-ui

[coarse torrent]

json ui is like quanten physics, everything works until it doesn't and nobody knows why and there doesn't seem to be a pattern to anything unless there is

[left yew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/884475749673881621/886991387264946186/image0.gif

[limpid quarry]

anyone have a good example on how to make the image change on a button hover?

im currently working on a form button and want to learn to texture them

i see that its hover_control

in docs, but not sure if i just stick this in the controls inside the button

[weak lintel]

citicx

why on earth do yo uhave this image

[limpid quarry]

 {
            "my_offset_button@server_form.custom_button_stationary":{
              "$button_size": [138,138],
              "$icon_size": [64, 64],
              "$padding_size": [148,148],
              "collection_index" : 0
            }
        },

this right?

or is it hover_state

oh wait

i define hover_state first?

[left yew]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-smile-emoji-happy-ok-gif-15342067

[weak lintel]

[limpid quarry]

nvm ill just learn off of an example lol

json ui doesn't have much chatting

[limpid quarry]

Yeah wasn't that hard after realizing what it took

So easy for hovering part

[hearty robin]

https://tenor.com/view/wither-stickman-dancing-vibe-meme-gif-27612356

[oak verge]

lol
you should look into changing button texture on hover not image
button texture is not an element

hover control is for things like tips that appear when you hover over something
it is not for changing something

at least this is what i understood

[weak lintel]

can anims accept bindings

[mystic heart]

I would recommend looking at the vanilla button templates UI and seeing how they are setup. Most templates have a variable
$hover_button_texture which you can set to change the hover image.

[weak lintel]

nvm

[eager hazel]

anyone know how i can fix the dropdown it's too high

i just don't know what to search for

[weak lintel]

how do i set duration value via numbers from chat text

the game hit me with "this aint no number"

[hexed briar]

can't do that

[weak lintel]

ooouuuugh

[hexed briar]

actually might be possible

[weak lintel]

ooooooh?

[hexed briar]

but the game said no anyways because of a hidden letter.

[weak lintel]

oooooough

does . also count as letter

[hexed briar]

yep.

[weak lintel]

_ _

[hexed briar]

the UI expecting numbers, not characters.

[weak lintel]

how do i send float numbers then

[hexed briar]

and it also kinda not json-ui fault since the game does use § and some hidden letter on the chat messages

[hexed briar]

math.

[weak lintel]

i mean ofc

[hexed briar]

just use something like something:0010 as a string

[weak lintel]

hmmmm

[hexed briar]

it's the same trick as the bar.

json-ui will get rid of the front zeros and leave from 0025 to 25.

which you can use that for animations stuff.

[weak lintel]

and i divide that by 1000 in anims since i need float number

(otherwise i might end up with neverending animation)

[hexed briar]

duration uses kinda like a timer

you can also use 0.5 or something

[weak lintel]

yeah thats why

the anims last shorter than a second

well, most of the times

[hexed briar]

nevermind no and it shouldn't be.

[weak lintel]

it shouldnt? wtf

wait wait wait

does .625 count as 0.625

[hexed briar]

No

[weak lintel]

phew

[hexed briar]

you'll need 0.625

but also couple of hardcoded property may not support that

or only support by one digit. (0.5 etc)

[weak lintel]

sounds painful

[hexed briar]

it was for good measure though.

since json-ui does not like that or often will lag sometimes

some properties do work with multiple digits, but kinda not recommended unless you're looking for a precise thing.

[weak lintel]

yeah i need precise stuff

if this fails i might have to resort to repeated chat texts (wtf)

[weak lintel]

apparently it still doesnt get the number even if its not a float???

[opal aurora]

it does, but you can't print them on screen as text normally

[weak lintel]

its the opposite apparently

and literally

wrapping variables values with () just

textifies the entire thing

which was why it didnt see it as number

[opal aurora]

check if variable values are present, and valid formulas

[weak lintel]

all set

i did get it to not spit out error logs before

but the duration still defaulted back to 1

[opal aurora]

try not to have numbers in the formulas, only variables

variable values can be a float

[weak lintel]

does it also include strings

like "#text - 'string'"

[opal aurora]

like:

"$a": 0.2,
"$b": 0.5,
"$formula": "($a + $b)"

[weak lintel]

[opal aurora]

float numbers won't be shown as texts

i have a solution, but it's very complicated and heavy in performance

[weak lintel]

im doing only one ui element so

im interested

[opal aurora]

and that solution is what i did in my ui pack, with 2 decimal point percentage numbers

convert float numbers to integer (literally)

but it's not enough, the number is still float after multiplying by 10^x so i need to manually compare and increase another initial integer number by 10^x

[weak lintel]

[weak lintel]

still nothing

i feel like the variable in anims dont even accept the value at all???

when i send only the numbers to label text it doesnt display since its number

but

the duration wont change at all

[hexed briar]

you can add §f at the front of the number if you're debugging.

should make your output shows up.

[weak lintel]

no i intended it

to check if the ui is seeing the value as string or number

[hexed briar]

eh idk it works for me though.

I've used that method to use some decrease animations on health bar.

[weak lintel]

ive made a different label for checking the value

[hexed briar]

though i realized that there's better way to do that so i ditched that

[weak lintel]

i still dont get why the anims dont want variables

like dude

eat it its not horrible

[hexed briar]

variables should work on it.

[weak lintel]

yeah

but it doesnt

[hexed briar]

it works on mine before and so does vanilla.

( yeah vanilla uses variables on anim for some reason )

i'd assume that you'll need to create a separate variables just like what you did on actionbar/title

mojang updated json-ui in some properties where a variable as operator may not work.

e.g

"$hello_var": "<operator>",
"duration": "$hello_var"```

[weak lintel]

thats what i also tried

yeah

wait

does puttng variable inside anim work

[hexed briar]

yes.

[weak lintel]

Bruh

I hate this game

[hexed briar]

though you can't do the same if you're using operator.

some properties now no longer likes it.

this was because well idk wtf are mojang doing with json-ui in 1.19.40

[weak lintel]

should i just use action bar

[hexed briar]

they broke literally nearly everyone's UI packs on that version

[weak lintel]

instead of chat

i mean i dont want to make vanilla action bar disappear

kinda want to keep anything intact

[hexed briar]

wait you're using chat message on animations?

[weak lintel]

yeah

[hexed briar]

well that kinda explains everything

[weak lintel]

everything works except for duration

does using chat make any difference

[hexed briar]

it needs to be reloaded.

though using chat is no guarantee to work unless doing complex operators

they just don't repeat on sending datas like actionbar/title

[weak lintel]

welp

Fuck

[hexed briar]

which im guessing that the animation loaded before the data taking place and it's only once.

therefore it can't really do anything since the anims was loaded and already expected it

so yeah i don't think doing variables with chat is a guarantee to work

[weak lintel]

title time then

[opal aurora]

you can't do that on float numbers

[fathom mica]

How to reset the selected slot so that it is not selected?

[fathom mica]

deselected like this

[hexed briar]

wdym "you can't do that" when i just did it daily as debugging to see float numbers on the label, then when the time comes to use it i'd just remove that symbol and it works flawlessly.

works everytime, doesn't have to "trial and error" or guessing which operator does what

[opal aurora]

just select another slot

[fathom mica]

That's not what it means, when in normal mode and selected item then move to drop mode, the item slot cannot be pressed

[weak lintel]

question by @last pollen: (he asked me to translate it)
is it possible to separate each participants inside scoreboard and put them into separate labels & panels?

[broken trail]

yes collection index

[weak lintel]

whats that

[wide oasis]

Can the death screen be modified?

[last pollen]

Can you explain it in detail?

[cunning bridge]

me

i have recently made a modal form into this...

the more you do it, the more skills and tools you learn, there is always something new to learn to unlock new capabilities

[final matrix]

yes

[cunning bridge]

what do you mean animation? you can scroll both pages, and the toggles are actually working.

[harsh perch]

Ooh what does Totem of Unfalling do

[cunning bridge]

yeah, but what for?

[cunning bridge]

it's in the name

[harsh perch]

Prevent you from falling?

[cunning bridge]

in the void yeah

[harsh perch]

Ah alr

[plucky obsidian]

Yes
Using death_screen.json

[eager hazel]

dose anyone know how to remove the #'s on the objectives?

[cunning bridge]

what hashtags?

i am not seeing any?

[eager hazel]

the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4

[cunning bridge]

can't you do it with the command?

/scoreboard objectives setdisplay

[eager hazel]

it's on the player list as an objective list

/scoreboard objectives setdisplay list <money> exc

[cunning bridge]

yeah so why not use the command i just sent to het rid of them?

[cunning bridge]

this command is what makes them appear

[left yew]

Dms @eager hazel

[eager hazel]

yea but i am asking if there is a way to remove the 1, 2, 3, 4 on the left ofd the objective

[cunning bridge]

oh... you are talking about the left side numbers

you can navigate the pause menu screen, find this element and get rid of it

[cunning bridge]

i think it's this element in scoreboard.json line 450

[eager hazel]

i figured it out thanks for the help

[weak lintel]

how can i use title factory without having vanilla title to overwrite on the factory-made elements

alternative question: how do i reset animation

[cunning bridge]

i don't understand your question

[weak lintel]

so to be more specific

i currently have an element plugged into title factory

which is created and runs animation everytime the preserved title is triggered

but since its a title factory i cant figure out how to not make the element to disappear because of a vanilla title

[cunning bridge]

a new title will overwrite the previous one no matter what

the same with the action bar

[weak lintel]

and the alternative question was about resetting animation everytime the preserved title is triggered

without generating a new element from factory

[cunning bridge]

i don't know if changing the timing on an animation is possible, but why not generate a new title to reset it?

[weak lintel]

well the anims thats not in factory fires upon load

so

[weak lintel]

if you meant 'generate' as in factory, that is why

• i want to keep vanilla title too

[cunning bridge]

ah i get it, so you want to display an element on the hud while keeping the title intact?

[weak lintel]

yeppers

[cunning bridge]

well, the vanilla title will overwrite the custom title and the custom title will overwrite the vanilla title, so if you clock them both together, the result will be jittery, so the solution is to stick them both in one title

you could use the first 20 character or so to display your element and leave the rest for the vanilla title

[weak lintel]

sounds terrifying but ill try

[weak lintel]

STILL doesnt work

im having the same situation ive had with chat

[weak lintel]

even the title doesnt work

[weak lintel]

it does accept variables but it doesnt change the duration god damnit WHY

[rare flame]

can you explain what you're trying to do again? I tried following the stuff above and I think you're just trying to stop the actionbar from fading out? if so just do this:

"anim_actionbar_text_alpha_out": {
    "to": 1.0,
    "modifications": [
      {
        "array_name": "destroy_at_end",
        "operation": "remove",
        "where": [
          {
            "destroy_at_end": "hud_actionbar_text"
          }
        ]
      }
    ]
  },
 "anim_actionbar_text_background_alpha_out": {
    "to": 0.6,
    "modifications": [
      {
        "array_name": "destroy_at_end",
        "operation": "remove",
        "where": [
          {
            "destroy_at_end": "hud_actionbar_text"
          }
        ]
      }
    ]
  },

[weak lintel]

you see a little bar below the crosshair, right?

im trying to make it to have different clip anim duration

[rare flame]

ah i see it now

how are you wanting it to look like?

longer duration?

that gray bar on gray sheep was hiding in plain sight lol

[weak lintel]

dynamic one

it should change depending on the item's attack speed

[rare flame]

i'll have a think on it while I do some dynamic text splitting tomorrow.

[weak lintel]

well the major issue here is that the anims wont reload

at all

its stuck at default value

[cunning bridge]

so your title is that little gray bar below the cross hair? and you want to change it's anim duration depending the attack speed of your weapon

[weak lintel]

yeppers

[cunning bridge]

have you tried binding a preserved text to the duration?

[weak lintel]

you can do that?

[cunning bridge]

you can replace the value of the duration with a variable yeah