General Discussion

[elfin flower]

Huh, so the game still does not update via MS store and still requires people to uninstall and install the game.

it's been nearly 2 weeks now.

[willow harness]

What

That's weird

[elfin flower]

yeah

honestly it's kinda expected for the store to not update because of a different app format but man, it's been nearly 2 weeks now.

they ain't gonna do anything do they?

[willow harness]

In my case i didn't even got a prompt that the game is updating to .122, I booted it up and it was already updated to the hotfix

[elfin flower]

i meant like 1.21.120+ generally.

[willow harness]

Oh

[elfin flower]

there's alot of people who don't know what's going on and this stuff happens.

[willow harness]

Yea I get that

[elfin flower]

even the android version's pre-"scoped storage" does better than this.

[willow harness]

Even I wouldn't have known that if I wasn't in this discord

[elfin flower]

basically they have a literal whole prompt in game, about the file path location being changed and automatically move stuff there for you just one click.

with a progress bar.

[willow harness]

Oh I remember that from caves and cliffs

[elfin flower]

yeah i wonder why wouldn't they do that here.

[willow harness]

Yea I wonder

[elfin flower]

maybe like keep releasing UWP and GDK as parallel, put a warning on it and maybe a prompt that does moving stuff for you too

then when 1.21.130 arrives UWP gets killed

[torn pond]

yeah i really don't get why they rushed the switch to GDK

1 preview cycle and it's done

[elfin flower]

this one has more effort than GDK like genuinely what's going on here.

[willow harness]

Yea all of it just feels rushed with the whole GDK thing, and we got the bugs like crosshair not being locked and the memory leak cuz of it

[elfin flower]

they have the code for that in the game still.

[torn pond]

yeah. This should have been treated more like point lights where they really take their time to make sure it all works.

well, ideally a bit faster than point lights

static_light when

[willow harness]

I wonder what prompted them to not release the GDK switch in a preview before a "stable" release, it's kinda rare for the dev team to make changes like these and then not introduce them in a preview first

[elfin flower]

i guess the "nobody complains" strikes again.

GDK is there since 1.21.121 or .122 previews, that should be like probably months or something.

since they think the game works fine and nobody complains about GDK issues that's probably why.

[willow harness]

I didn't realize GDK was in those previews

[elfin flower]

They are, and are also very uh. questionable preview.

[willow harness]

I don't really install/work with previews so that might be why I missed it

[elfin flower]

1.21.120 preview is where they enable AIP, (aka something anti-piracy for android devices) and it broke quite alot in the unofficial linux launcher and makes it unmoddable via apk edit.

then 1.21.121 preview is where they changed UWP to GDK as we know now.

[willow harness]

ohh

[elfin flower]

I make stuff on stable so i don't exactly know any GDK issues in there until the actual 1.21.120 stable releases.

[willow harness]

Same

[zenith aspen]

banana

🍌🍌

[limber tiger]

Sometime I wonder if mojang will ever implement off hand to bedrock

[charred ocean]

it will surely be implemented ofc

just no one knows when or how

[limber tiger]

it's difficult to believe

[zenith aspen]

[wintry lantern]

i think when they completely remove the old touch control scheme and leave the one that has the interact and attack/break buttons separated

[charred ocean]

what do you mean by the old touch control scheme? the placement like the old buttons?

[latent vault]

its the "tap to interact" one, where you tap/hold for interactions

that control method limits you in a few situations like not being able to break a block while holding a bow and arrow

[white fractal]

yes.

[zenith aspen]

🔥

[sonic musk]

reminds of java ui

[white fractal]

current bedrock situation: fixing marketplace first before others

[cloud moon]

what's weird is I can only open minecraft bedrock from the mircosoft store after downgrading

nvm I'm just bad at setting things up

[rough path]

Stealing this.

[upbeat surge]

hey frens
any news about preview today?

[elfin flower]

Soon, not yet.

probably next hour.

[zenith aspen]

next year

[rough path]

Perchance no beta because Veterans Day...but then again MS doesn't give Veterans Day off.

[willow harness]

we can hope ig

[zenith aspen]

[torn pond]

static lights pleas thank u :3

[rough path]

No.

1.21.240

Yeah you know what, not even gonna fix that typo.

[fringe island]

Next year

[rough path]

Yeah you're right, we could reach .240 next year if they don't change the versioning system.

[quasi wedge]

better not be

[sonic musk]

when it does happen
i hope it carries into fancy/ normal graphics

[rough path]

It won't.

[sonic musk]

can a man hope 😢

[zealous salmon]

when is the next beta cycle expected to start? (based on usual releases)

.26 is usually the last preview right?

i guess it varies each time

[quasi wedge]

hopefully not until after they fix the ui being broken

[rough path]

It varies.

[zealous salmon]

which ui is that?

[rough path]

It usually depends on when they plan to release the current cycle.

[zealous salmon]

that makes sense

[torn pond]

this is one of those things which really should be put into fancy, but yeah, i doubt it.

[quasi wedge]

pretty much all custom UI that goes beyond just changing images or basic things

[zealous salmon]

like json ui? what did they change

[marble karma]

*cope

[torn pond]

i think Java will get colored lighting even when playing on fast and fancy.

[elfin flower]

uh what

[torn pond]

when it eventually comes to java

while on bedrock it'll be VV only

[sonic musk]

yeah man
mc remakes on youtube colored light everytime and

it makes me jealous

[torn pond]

and yeah, they said "Colored lighting? no" for Java... but like, i think they'll change that once Bedrock VV gets it.

[elfin flower]

Their recent "limit" changes with %.<number>s on JSON-UI not just limit things, but breaks stuff alot. essentially alot of things like displaying numbers via one string and custom bar is now near impossible.

[rough path]

Copium.

[torn pond]

and Jeb has said before that colored lighting is a "no, for now", not "no, ever"

[rough path]

I've been watching a lot of MC clones lately to try to understand how flood lighting would work. It is growing on me.

[sonic musk]

i hope they just fix the mouse cursor issue

[zealous salmon]

oh interesting, i didn't think that was an issue when i saw the changelog

[torn pond]

Why do you think Java VV won't get colored lighting if Bedrock VV does?

[manic tinsel]

Thats not what they responded to XD

[rough path]

I was referring to Coloured Lighting being in Fancy.

[torn pond]

But i mean, Java VV won't be a separate graphics mode.

[rough path]

Especially fast? Not plausible.

[zealous salmon]

yeah i completely skipped over that, it seems to make sense though?

[manic tinsel]

Yes it will

[rough path]

How do we know this?

[zealous salmon]

how else do you split strings if you're not using numbers

[torn pond]

they said it, no???

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[torn pond]

and like, they recently changed the graphics "modes" to graphics "presets"

[quasi wedge]

This makes it so UI with data stored like this;that;and_this; can no longer be separated into just "this" "that" and "and_this"

[zealous salmon]

can you split by char?

or well, could you?

[marble karma]

I had an idea for the light level system rework

[zealous salmon]

have you got an example of what used to but no longer works?

[elfin flower]

it is honestly a big issue for anyone doing UI really, dynamic splitting text is now no longer a thing, can't use that %.<number>s with math or it'll just won't work etc.

oh yeah they broke the "value to string" via §z as well unfortunately.

[marble karma]

https://discord.com/channels/1138536747932864532/1344844007963885569

[quasi wedge]

The other thing it affects is when you are adding padding to text so instead of "100" it would show "00100" because the max value of it can be 5 digits, it no longer works

[marble karma]

This also allows for something like floodlight to be made

[quasi wedge]

Can't multiply it to turn "00100" back to "100"

[manic tinsel]

Oh lol Pout is kinda right but we don't know how it will end up fully working yet

[elfin flower]

Here if you wonder what breaks from this change.

[zealous salmon]

I'll see if i can get this raised internally. I feel like it may affect some featured servers

[quasi wedge]

oh it does lol

[rough path]

I foresee this as "You can use Vibrant Visuals mode, but it will have far more toggles than Bedrock since Resource Pack support isn't there yet"

[zealous salmon]

Do you know which off the top of your head? I don't believe it affects us at the hive, I think we just use number splitting

[elfin flower]

Soulsteel uses alot of these so uhhh... yeeah it's gonna be hellish.

[quasi wedge]

the rise and fall of Soulsteel in one update

[manic tinsel]

Uh not really 😛

We have not seen anything too bad with it lol

[quasi wedge]

welp

[manic tinsel]

Most of our custom ui is working fine

[elfin flower]

displaying fine?

[zealous salmon]

Any chance you know who else?

[elfin flower]

well i guess back to the stone age then lmao but yeah that's how i usually use them.

[zealous salmon]

I think hive and galaxite only use the %.<number>s, maybe mineville might do something more. I'll speak to their team

[quasi wedge]

I figured anyone who was storing stuff for ui display on the hud or in other forms would be storing it in the ;a;b;c; format

[manic tinsel]

90% confident we will be fine
Our UI dev is still working through the ones that are kinda broken to see if they are really broken or we just did not do something correctly

[zealous salmon]

i think we just use fixed length strings and pad with tabs

[rough path]

This is where we do a slow rollout of DDUI

[elfin flower]

Well tbf i used quite alot of cutting edge stuff essentially dynamic splitting texts and among other things but im sure we'll probably be fine. i think.

[carmine kettle]

Driving Dangerously Under the Influence

[rough path]

BAO does not encourage nor endorse doing the following.

[carmine kettle]

Go make add-ons!

[sonic musk]

DSUI when?
Driving Safely Under the Influence

[manic tinsel]

Under the Influence?

[carmine kettle]

I should say, "make add-ons, responsibly."

[elfin flower]

honestly i don't exactly mind the "limit" but they also broke the way it works so, nearly all of my stuff is either non-functional %.<number>s or just crashes my game.

My search converter, gone. dynamic splitting text (where i use hey;test message;another message;that and it'll show each other separately, also gone.

my custom bars? well crashes the game for some reason and i still can't figure out workaround for it yet.

[manic tinsel]

Custom Bars?

[zealous salmon]

they fixed a crash with %. which i think galaxite (and maybe soulsteel) had, weird that it's crashing for you now lol

[elfin flower]

I had multiple custom bars that do animate alot on the hud. it uses just one %.<number>s and for whatever reason it crashes after this change lmao.

[manic tinsel]

Yeah that was us lol we kicked up a fuss and they patched that but this new fix was not something we wanted/were aware they were doing XD

[zealous salmon]

yeah makes sense haha

galaxite had that for like a year and it was impossible to debug

never found a solution before i left, and they never found one before the hotfix came out haha

[quasi wedge]

I've pretty much had the UI for RuneCraft disabled so I can still work on stuff

[elfin flower]

well eh i commonly use size bindings for custom bars, and size bindings will crash if it gets invalid value. always.

[manic tinsel]

This is our game ui in the latest

[quasi wedge]

this is my ui (It's all disabled)

[undone crane]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/41048727929101-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-21-130-27 changelog yipe

[sonic musk]

Added splash text "One does not simply walk to the Far Lands"

Developer's Note: This statement was proven false on October 4, 2025.
LMFAO

[rough path]

Custom items tagged with minecraft::is_shovel now build paths on all blocks the Shovel does
Ah...tag based functionality.

Static light

FUCK

You were right @torn pond

[sonic musk]

Added Colored Static Block Lighting under the Render Dragon Features for Creators toggle
Feature is only available in Previews and using Vibrant Visuals in worlds which the experiment toggle is active
Temporarily disabled on Android and PlayStation due to technical issues
Static lights can be defined in local_lighting.json using "light_type": "static_light"
Blocks with the "point_light" light_type will also receive colored static lighting
Static lighting follows Minecraft lighting rules and respects the minecraft:light_emission and minecraft:light_dampening block components
Static lighting is additive/accumulated, so overlapping lights of different colors will cause lighting to get brighter
Overlapping lights of the same type (i.e. same color and light_emission) will not cause lighting to get brighter
Static lighting is not affected by stained glass or other translucent blocks
The static lighting experimental feature is under development and may look or behave different as development progresses
Learn more at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/vibrantvisuals/lightingcustomization
@rough path HAHAHA

[rough path]

@eternal shoal

Wake up

Coloured lighting

[willow harness]

Huh

[undone crane]

Dam we really got static light before gta 6

[rough path]

FUCK

Why can't I be proven right for once.

[sonic musk]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

[elfin flower]

Temporarily disabled on Android sob

[undone crane]

didnt this happen already or am i delusional

[latent wraith]

I used them pretty extensively in 15 Year Journey, they seem to be fine?

[torn pond]

STATIC LIGHT SUPREMACY YESSSSSS

[rough path]

Alright wrap it up, go use #1437846663082410016

[elfin flower]

It works for one bar, The thing is i use multiple of them at once.

probably like 6 bars

[eternal shoal]

WHAT

SIOSDKDIOSKS

[elfin flower]

Oh, it works now. apparently due to * 1 and is also mentioned on my list of what's broken

[languid tinsel]

Quick progress loads and then lose it all because you are not persisting changes!

The change broke Avatar: Rites of Passages UI but it was an easy fix in the end

I had not installed a GDK preview on this PC yet, smh come oooon

[manic tinsel]

lol!

[languid tinsel]

[manic tinsel]

😭

[hoary forge]

@rough path

[rough path]

ITS SO UGLY

SENDING YOU BACK TO THE GULAG

[hoary forge]

-# Tbh it looks worse on mobile

[tropic chasm]

Woah, Java received the possibility of rotating blocks with any axis

[rough path]

Hey @ionic ocean , can you confirm that features need to be placed via a feature rule in order to show up in /place feature?

[ionic ocean]

Yes

[fringe island]

Currently, yes, if you don't add it to a feature rule, the game simply ignores its existence. That's why I had to create feature rules that never generate for some cases, lol.

[toxic stone]

java block/item model?

[elfin flower]

Huh, so i uh fixed all of these.

not hard but my stuff is working fine now

with some weird workaround obviously.

[willow harness]

ooo

[elfin flower]

here's some updated version —

• Dynamic splitting text still exists with some minor patches.
• §z + ... + %.<number>s are now more accurate to pin point where the string you want is, usually it's either offset back by -1 or 1.
• %.<number>s with * 1 is still broken unfortunately, as it ignores %.<number>s entirely still. — However, Value is the default so, that wasn't needed anymore.
• '%.' + #number + 's' sort of works, but will require changing the value adjustment alot. this practically means alot of things has to be patched.
• Custom bars might need some additional bindings for ratio stuff since %.<number>s still does not cope well with /.
• Accuracy with %.<number>s also changed, so adjustment are required.

[teal lantern]

§z?
it exists?

[limber tiger]

Wot

[cerulean quarry]

What that means?

[quasi wedge]

what

Probably just means that you can't download that version anymore?

[cerulean quarry]

it might be only related to mojira bug tracker

i don't think you can remove it from MS Store database

[rough path]

I mean...it can...

the previous UWP builds

[cerulean quarry]

hmmm, did it happend before? What version we can't download anymore?

[rough path]

Any of the preview versions.

Their links are dead now.

[cerulean quarry]

hmmm

even if we use the Xbox API enpoint with auth?

[rough path]

Yes.

[cerulean quarry]

Nooooo

Damn why mojang force us to do it

From now we have to create system that will archive these versions somehow

well its almost impossible i guess

[tropic chasm]

Blocks

[limber tiger]

So funny how bedrock state is right now but no communication from Mojang or whatever

[toxic stone]

sad, i hope they remove the rotation limitation to one axis per elements for java block/item model format

[steady gate]

wtf is this... i was just sat on the "worlds" screen and when a friend loads into a world i get this

so if the list is empty and it updates to try and show a friends world it causes this screen to show.. if i have a world there already its fine. then i get pushed back to this screen

[fringe island]

Is it normal for add-ons to cause the map to load infinitely when entering?

[cerulean quarry]

lmao

you better have no friends

[steady gate]

it takes like a minute or two to "go back to the previous screen" too 🤣

you would think it would be instant

[random karma]

I'd imagine hosting and distributing them would break TOS or something in some way

[willow harness]

it might yea

[random karma]

Realistically there aren't many use-cases for downloading old versions anyway, with how most things are versioned and backwards compatable.

Still sucks though

[willow harness]

mhmm

also does anyone else had their mc crash while in full screen?

I don't usually play full screen but I kinda have to rn cuz of the cursor bug and it just randomly crashed on me today

[random karma]

apparently the cursor bug was fixed in the hotfix. Though I play in fullscreen and have not had any crashes.

[willow harness]

apparently ya

[rich vault]

meanwhile, I downloaded the last 90 android mcpe versions earlier today

[random karma]

. . . but why

I have a few of the older releases backed up just in case. Like 0.14.0 and other archaic builds. I can't afford to have tens of gigs of Minecraft instances though 💀

[marble karma]

Get you some hard drives nerds

[covert depot]

why %AppData%\Minecraft Bedrock\Users\Shared\games\com.mojang storing lot's of junks? that goes up to 30GB sometimes!

[rough path]

Not for me, what are you installing?

[covert depot]

I installed minecraft like 30 min ago

[willow harness]

what is this com.mojang folder ;-;

[covert depot]

place to store your packs

[willow harness]

ik but I only have this much

and I have played it for hours

[covert depot]

humm

[white fractal]

bedrock is so broken that it recently had an RCE

the version was 1.21.51 (uwp security is skull)

[spring cairn]

Some of the files look like they're from system32... How odd

[marble karma]

-# foreshadowing

[fringe island]

Custom blocks, when waterlogged, are surrounded by water; this doesn't happen with vanilla stairs.

[south bay]

ngl thats sounds funny

[fringe island]

Projectiles also seem to consider the block as having a whole-block collision because it hits places where it shouldn't.

[tribal walrus]

which genius thought it was a good idea to make the "games" folder per xbox(?) account ☠️

[rough path]

Why not?

I think it'a cool to have per account stuff.

[tribal walrus]

yeah that's cool and all until the game decides you can't sign into xbox

[rough path]

Move the worlds into the Shared folder

[tribal walrus]

[sleek grail]

This is what quazchick meant by "actual selectionbox"

[fringe island]

Yes, my friend told me that projectiles don't read the collision box, but rather the selection box.

[celest sluice]

That's very weird

[reef glade]

What lmao.. that looks like you isntalled either another application there or windows thought it as temporary junk folder xD

It should be clean like this

[dawn fable]

They seem to use both, collision for motion, selection for hitting blocks

Which leads to them getting stuck on blocks that have separate collision and selection sizes

[fringe island]

Oh

[manic tinsel]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/about-minecraft-blast

[quasi wedge]

So Minecraft candy crush?

This is a genius marketing strategy to get the younger generation hooked on the match game genre and profit in the trillions when they get older

[spring cairn]

Literally made by king too

[quasi wedge]

That's why I said it

[limber tiger]

https://x.com/ibxtoycat/status/1989030118849720357?s=20

Andrew (Toycat) (@ibxtoycat)

A Minecraft spokesperson has given this statement with regards to bedrock PC issues:

"Hey folks, just want to acknowledge these comments and let you know that the team is actively gathering feedback and working on addressing"

X · Nov 13, 2025, 5:58 PM

OBVIOUSLY they have to fix the game

[quasi wedge]

No shit. But there is a community of people who refuse to believe anything is happening unless someone says something.

[limber tiger]

https://x.com/BobicraftMC/status/1989015651693068636

Bobicraft (@BobicraftMC)

X · Nov 13, 2025, 5:01 PM

[rough path]

https://vxtwitter.com/BobicraftMC/status/1989015651693068636

Bobicraft (@BobicraftMC)

↪️ Replying to @BobicraftMC

https://t.co/VS2hpiQQD5

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Nov 13, 2025, 5:01 PM

[quasi wedge]

Wait what, I thought the entire communication was that we would be getting gamedrops, followed by major updates?

[tropic chasm]

Bobicraft mentioned

[zealous salmon]

Did they ever say that?

[marble karma]

I had a dream about some bullshit exactly like this istg

Just tonight too

I mean yesterday night

[quasi wedge]

Maybe I misunderstood it at the time, because I figured the scope of game drops would always be small, and they would save large updates that would involve things like... an end update, a new dimension, or new bosses, as a major update

[zealous salmon]

Yeah i believe that's true, but doesn't mean there will be one of those every year

[spring cairn]

I interpreted as only game drops from now on

[zealous salmon]

Yeah I think everything is going to be a game drop, but from what I understand, that doesn't mean they can't be big ones

[torn pond]

yeah. Everything is a drop, but they did say that drops would vary in scale.

Gnembon said during the interview that a drop could be "as big as Caves and Cliffs"

but the larger drops obviously take far longer to develop since they no longer have the full dev team making them all at once.

[zealous salmon]

yeah, i'm on the fence about game drops

on the + side, it's easier for smaller teams to develop different sets of content to come out at different points in the year

[quasi wedge]

which part?

[zealous salmon]

on the other side, it does kind of suck as a player when the updates are quite small or add something that you're never gonna use (just the expectation that i guess was created from some of the first announcements)

[celest sluice]

Yes

[torn pond]

tbh i really like a lot of what we got in drops.

the issue is more just

good feature ideas with rushed execution

[quasi wedge]

I can't get my friends to play Minecraft because they want a big update 😭

[torn pond]

like, especially mounts of mayhem. The balancing here feels all over the place.

they went for completely opposite extremes for the spear and nautilus.
The spear's jab attack is really bad. It deals such low damage that you're almost always better off with anything else. Even a netherite spear is just worse than a wooden sword, especially since the spear's attack speed gets lower with each tier. For whatever reason they also took this "higher tiers have an arbitrary downside" thing with the lunge enchant too, and while it isn't as bad as before, it just is such an odd approach here.
However, it does feel like the spear is designed with other parts of the game (mounts, potions, enchanting) in mind.

The nautilus meanwhile has no real downsides, and doesn't interact with other parts of the game all that much. You just get permanent water breathing while on one. No reason to get a turtle shell, respiration, water breathing potions, or a conduit. If you have a nautilus, that's all you need.
This is also the opposite of their approach with happy ghasts where they made it clear that they didn't want the happy ghast to overshadow any other existing features, just have it stand on its own while keeping the other ones just as good as they were before.

so, one very underpowered feature that interacts with the rest of the game, and one overpowered feature that doesn't interact with anything else.

which is a shame as in theory, i like all the features in this drop. they just feel like they need more time and better balancing.

[quasi wedge]

Idk, it seems pretty intentional to me

The spear was designed around being used while moving, and you can use it on the nautilus for underwater combat.

There was also never a reason to get a turtle shell, repsiration, water breathing potions, or a conduit to begin with

I think In the entirety of time I've ever played Minecraft, I have made a single conduit

Never so much as worn a turtle helmet, or used water breathing potions

[celest sluice]

The disadvantage of using a nautilus is that you have to use a nautilus

[quasi wedge]

I've actually never interacted with the vanilla brewing system because I think it's disgusting

[celest sluice]

If I have water breathing, I'm using that

[torn pond]

the problem with the spear is that it's a craftable tiered item. If this was a treasure item with one tier equal to current netherite or diamond, then the weird balancing would be more fine.

but if the game is like, "this is one of the 3 core weapons you can make, alongside the axe and sword" (or just sword on bedrock)

then that core weapon should always be at least usable.

[torn pond]

if you wanted to survive underwater then there was. There isn't much underwater content besides ocean monuments, but that's a separate issue.

[celest sluice]

To be honest, I don't see why I'd ever use the axe over the sword in regular gameplay

[quasi wedge]

There are plenty of things in the game people don't ever use or interact with

[torn pond]

on Java i usually use the axe early on.

[quasi wedge]

I will probably not ever make a spear unless I already had full diamond

[celest sluice]

The sword is faster + has sweep

[quasi wedge]

Watching Tyler1 play Minecraft and on day 10 he discovered swords

[celest sluice]

Overall the sword deals more damage

[torn pond]

which is an issue imo.
I could see myself making or using almost every single other tiered item for one reason or another.

[quasi wedge]

I can't

I still think copper armor and tools are a total waste of time

[torn pond]

sure but if you're fighting creepers, high single attack damage > high DPS

[celest sluice]

I was on copper armour until day 5 😭

[torn pond]

copper armor and tools are useful early game.

like, sure, usually i'll get iron stuff quickly

but if you don't find a good cave

then copper stuff has a place

[celest sluice]

I dunno. Sounds pretty situational

I'm kidding 😂

[torn pond]

the only "useless" one was the golden sword, which is a single tier of a single item, and even that's used by nether mobs so at least you have that. It's very enchantable but very low durability which can also be potentially useful.

copper spear is especially bad.

they added copper gear last drop, with the whole point being it's "slightly better than stone". Then this drop they go and make a new copper item that's WORSE than stone.

[quasi wedge]

Maybe I just haven't played survival in a while but I do not think Copper is that much more obtainable then Iron to the extent that anyone can justify making full copper equipment instead of just taking the extra 5 minutes to mine more iron

[torn pond]

remember that you get multiple copper per ore

so, 1 copper vein will give you a full copper set

[quasi wedge]

Yeah, I still can't ever justify it

It's not even worth it for me to mine copper

[torn pond]

i mean, fair enough but i don't think it's useless. They clearly added it with a purpose in mind for early game.

[quasi wedge]

maybe when I have diamond/netherite and want to mess around with base building or something else I'll mine it

[torn pond]

with the spear meanwhile, it feels like they just had no idea what they wanted to do.

[quasi wedge]

They wanted it to be accessible for everyone at any stage of the game as opposed to something you need to grind hours for

[celest sluice]

What I'll do is incorporate the spear into my toolset and see for myself how useful it is.

[limber tiger]

Mojang finally dropped the hoftix, really cool W there

[torn pond]

they wanted to make a tiered item, but wanted it to work like a treasure item, but also wanted each tier to be closer to equal than with other weapons

[celest sluice]

So far each drop has added something that I'm currently using in my world

[torn pond]

I'll use it for lunge probably.

and that's it

[celest sluice]

The horse change I cannot wait for

[rough path]

The swim?

[celest sluice]

I had to keep switching between boat and horse EVERY TIME I have to cross a river

[torn pond]

imo the same thing could have been accomplished by making it a really common single-tier treasure item

or a 3 tier treasure item like horse armor was before they added leather and now netherite.

don't make it a full, regular tiered item when:

• you have no use for one until you get a mount (which requires iron for a saddle)
• some of the tiers are completely useless
• you want all tiers to be somewhat equal

[celest sluice]

Who would willingly make gold tools

[torn pond]

they're not great, but they have the benefit of being fast.

low durability sure

but fast

there was an attempt to give them a purpose.

i don't feel like they even tried with some spear tiers

[quasi wedge]

So you're saying there are options

It's not like progression has ever been great in Minecraft

[celest sluice]

Not exactly a great argument. Usually you'd want an aspect of a game to improve

[torn pond]

gold spear falls under the same issue as gold sword, except it's not even properly usable as a weapon unenchanted so even getting it as a drop from mobs or in chests isn't worth it.
copper spear is completely useless, being worse than stone in every way besides durability (which, i mean, stone is extremely common so that doesn't really matter).

but even for the others like

they're not great. They don't get nearly as much better with each tier like other weapons do.

because of that weird "let's make each tier slower" approach

the opposite of the axe

which gets faster

[celest sluice]

Imma be real. The axe speeds don't make sense. How is wood slower than netherite

[quasi wedge]

The only way I see gear progression in Minecraft ever improving is with stopgaps to prevent players from outright skipping over tiers or increased difficulty at the levels where those specific materials can be obtained, both of which would require massive overhaul changes that just aren't Minecraft

[torn pond]

the reason it works is because axes don't gain higher damage with each tier. It's only 7-8-9 i think

so sure, it doesn't make as much sense for realism, but it makes sense for balancing

[celest sluice]

In that case they should just have higher base damage rather than higher speed

[torn pond]

yeah but then they'd need to lower most of the axes' damage

which takes away from them being high damage.

either that, or netherite axe would be too strong when it's already very good

[limber tiger]

For no reason

when changing min_engine_version from 1.21.100 to higher I can't use VV

[rough path]

You need the PBR capabilities in your manifest RP

This is what Marketplace uses to determine what packs can use VV and what packs can't.

[limber tiger]

ffs

and is it documented?

[rough path]

I haven't updated the wiki yet not. I've been busy.

[limber tiger]

that's not really help me unfortunately but that's alright

don't mean it in mean way

[rough path]

😩 We need Leaves distance block state.

[limber tiger]

like that?

[fringe island]

I wanted to update the adjacent block; it would be very useful to change my already positioned block when I place a new one next to it.

[rough path]

Yeah, fix your JSON formatting but yeah.

[limber tiger]

well, i'm trying to find the issue but I can't

[quasi wedge]

red squiggly

[limber tiger]

hmmm

[quasi wedge]

You have an extra end bracket that shouldn't be there right above modules

[limber tiger]

like that?

[quasi wedge]

undo what you did and remove the yellow end bracket just above "modules" that you showed in the first image where the red squiggly is

You're closing the JSON object and kicking the "modules" section out of it

[limber tiger]

okay there we go

did mojang fucked up attachables again?

okay they changed a few things in the spear model

[eternal shoal]

because you have to add
"capabilities": [
"pbr"
]
}

[fringe island]

Flammable blocks like leaves never drop anything when burned, right?

[limber tiger]

now that bedrock has a cool engine, can't they add spectral arrow?

[reef glade]

cool engine?

mehh what are you talking abt it sucks

[fringe island]

It's just that I'm not sure about

[limber tiger]

well it's better than the last few days

they have way more opportunities etc

[fluid wadi]

Wasn’t part of the switch to Renderdragon for spectator mode and the glowing effect?

[rough path]

Says who?

[fluid wadi]

I don’t know. I just remember something about that

It might have been speculation

[fossil walrus]

They should add glowing effect

It would be cool

[steady gate]

The sad thing is, the Spectator Mode isn't even finished. At least not for parity comparisons

On Java, you can adjust your fly speed with your scroll wheel, you can open chests if they've been generated (opened once already)/crafted and you can even take the perspective of all mobs and players.

The only thing I see not being a possibility for parity might be how someone would change their flight speed on touch. Other than that, the others should be and should have already been added. Though who am I to complain about missing features.

[tribal torrent]

hotfix today?

[cloud moon]

Minecraft blast is so funny

[manic tinsel]

I never heard this during my years as a Marketplace Creator. The only thing ever mentioned was it would allow for better visuals and "performance". Performance took a huge dive when it was released out of beta ;-;

[fluid wadi]

Okay. It was probably speculation masqueraded as fact

[rough path]

Performance? In the big 2025? Just sink $2000 on a better GPU and use AI to increase your frame rates, duh

[manic tinsel]

Terra Swoop Force released when Renderdragon did and well uh that was not a fun time

[stoic junco]

That sounds like a long time ago, I had a lot of fun playing it

[willow harness]

Terra Swoop Force is still one of my all time fav maps

[stoic junco]

they probably heard this a lot of times but I had to say it lol

[tropic chasm]

What is performance?

Is that a new slang?

[latent vault]

idk but it doesnt sound edible

[manic tinsel]

Ah well you see you know that thing where you don't open minecraft it's that 😛

[tropic chasm]

Ohh that's how is called!!

[willow harness]

damn

[tropic coral]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-jim-carrey-i-don't-hear-you-gif-9558280472791987858

[rough path]

Does emissive textures for non VV actually work or is it still bugged?

[dawn fable]

for what?

[rough path]

That is, eyeblossom, but for my custom block.

[dawn fable]

that doesn't exist for custom blocks

[rough path]

Right I just reread

Field emissive renamed to shaded to better describe what the field does

[celest sluice]

Does any launcher support GDK yet?

[rough path]

Not yet, we're still working on them.

[celest sluice]

On a related note, the issues page for the Bedrock Launcher is gone now

[spring veldt]

Also

• Removed redundant experimental field shaded formerly named emissive

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[celest sluice]

All that for nothing

Well it's for the best anyway

[zealous salmon]

you can build the MCLauncher PR yourself, however it doesn't handle data migration currently

so you'll need to backup before you do anything

[steady gate]

uhhh... why did my path just randomly change for my resource packs!?

[willow harness]

Because of the switch to GDK

[steady gate]

No no.. it's been fine until today

[willow harness]

Oh

[steady gate]

This whole time since the game moved to GDK my packs have been stored at:
C:\Users\Null\AppData\Roaming\Minecraft Bedrock\Users\Shared\games\com.mojang\development_resource_packs

Now randomly like 10 minutes ago I noticed my packs no longer existed until I moved them to:
C:\XboxGames\Minecraft for Windows\Content\development_resource_packs

[willow harness]

That's weird

[steady gate]

Literally I've done updates and all since GDK released and suddenly it's just decided to change they path it loads in..

[rough path]

Are you signed in?

[steady gate]

Yup

[rough path]

It should only happen if you're not signed in.

[steady gate]

Weird.. maybe I missed a popup early and it failed to sign me in or something. I've always been signed in opening the game though

Now it's back to the original location

Some voodoo shit going on

[tribal torrent]

preview week this week?

:doggysmurkW:

[wind spoke]

Did they deprecate it as of format version 1.21.0??

Oh it's also marked as deprecated in format version 1.12.0...

Didn't they just mark it as stable? What's going on here?

Noooooooo!

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/the-copper-age---minecraft--bedrock-edition-1-21-111-changelog

Mojang making my life difficult yet again. :P

[rough path]

What were you using it for?

[wind spoke]

The models for all my assets.

It is possible to achieve the same look using regular models, but it involves some math magic. I will be doing that instead.

[rich vault]

I mean if you aren't using your math magic, are you really a math magician XD

[wind spoke]

The plan was to use the math magic from the beginning. Then I learned about poly mesh models and I was told they had been used on the Marketplace before, so I was like sweet, my job just got easier. Then halfway through development, Mojang pulls this and doesn't tell me. We only found out because it refused to upload. 💀

So math magic it is. 🧙‍♂️

[rough path]

I was told they had been used on the Marketplace before
By whom and what project?

As far as I know poly mesh has never been allowed on the Marketplace.

[wind spoke]

SnaveSutit said that there were several low-quality projects that used it, but he didn't give any specific examples.

I was originally inquiring as to Blochbench's mesh feature to use as the source for the conversion.

[rough path]

😔 The spread of misinfo.

[wind spoke]

Oh well, it is what it is.

[rich vault]

Well in the early days of marketplace some maps even included shaders, maybe there were some very old products that used polymesh, but it's definitely not allowed anymore

[wind spoke]

Ahhhh, that's probably what he was referring to.

I don't think Snave has been directly involved with the Marketplace for a while now.

[limber tiger]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/gaming/s/sjhVe3MwU0

[marble karma]

[quasi wedge]

we would have had $20 horse skins

[elfin flower]

Okay this might look strange but turning off "Game Mode" does improve my game's performance and reduced loading assets and time quite alot.

[willow harness]

Game Mode?

[quasi wedge]

Game mode one

[willow harness]

Damn

[elfin flower]

Windows built-in feature.

[willow harness]

Ohh

The one you enable with ctrl+G?

[elfin flower]

this was enabled by default for me so i turned it off.

[willow harness]

Ahh

[elfin flower]

that one is for xbox overlay thing.

[willow harness]

Yea

[elfin flower]

but yeah turning game mode off seems to improved my development really alot

/reload all works better, world generate alot faster etc

[willow harness]

Yoo, I'll check it out later

[elfin flower]

This only works on bedrock or GDK stuff though i think.

it does what it says, turning things off in the background if the OS detects that the app is classified a game.

it kinda works if you're gaming but for bedrock addon development and stuff. probably not. atleast for my experience anyways.

[willow harness]

I see

[celest sluice]

Hey whatever happened to eddy spaghetti?

[cloud moon]

I thought this helped perfromance

that's what my friend told me anyways

[elfin flower]

it kinda does if you don't multi tasking. other than that yeah. well honestly it makes no difference to me with them on or off anyways so that kinda useless.

it's just that the hardware workload are more focused on the active game window.

[wintry lantern]

Is there going to be a preview today?

[random karma]

Nope

no more previews ever again

[elfin flower]

Oh yeah, i found out that if the game windows is unfocused or inactive, loading screen will absolutely DOES NOTHING

I thought my game are frozen or something, but turned out. the window are inactive and i had to make it active so the progress bar can go.

[willow harness]

what </3

[arctic salmon]

Yeah I've been noticing for a few days. It happens when I try to drag the window or sometimes randomly(?)

[elfin flower]

idk if this is a GDK issue tbh

sure, the game no longer pauses or reload when tabbed out but

it looks like it's 50/50 fixed.

[fossil walrus]

Most bugs like that as of recent are GDK issues because that update was not play tested a single time

[limber tiger]

Seems snapshot is kinda late

[heady sable]

Preview day 🗣️ 🔈 🔥

[limber tiger]

The lack of communication again…

[undone crane]

wha we still have 1 hour until preview

[limber tiger]

Talking about snapshot

[hasty grotto]

i miss him 😔

oh hes still around

just isnt gordon ramsay anymore

[foggy isle]

aajabrams is online!

O

BANANA!!

[tribal torrent]

preview day today?

:doggysmurkW:

[foggy isle]

it could be

anyway! new update VV!

[cerulean quarry]

No preview?

https://tenor.com/view/cristiano-ronaldo-drinking-meme-gif-23698215

[devout barn]

This did happen to me on UWP as well, so I don't think it's a GDK thing

Actually it was more noticeable on UWP if I remember correctly, I think mainly due to the UWP version loading slower (for me at least)

[foggy isle]

😢

[limber tiger]

still no announcement from mojang about the snapshot

mojang at its finest

[celest sluice]

If snapshot today, then changelogs come out. If snapshot not today, a dev will eventually say so

[simple steppe]

What bug are we getting today

[limber tiger]

and it's been 1.5h so it would be good if they communicate right now

[celest sluice]

They have no obligation to.

We'll know the status of the shapshot soon enough

[limber tiger]

they sure do have, they always did and for no reason they don't today

[rough path]

The vending machines went down due to cloudflare so they're rioting.

[celest sluice]

They are individuals. It's not like Mojang Studios is telling them "Hey! Those poor Minecraft creators need to know the when the next snapshot is coming in the next hour!"

[limber tiger]

i pray that hytale will make mojang do something good at least once

[limber tiger]

Slicedlime always tweets when it comes to delays

no words from them

[celest sluice]

So?

[limber tiger]

it's bad

really bad

[celest sluice]

He's also not in any obligation to make updates. He does that stuff on his own time

[limber tiger]

and it's not "creators", it's players the right words

if it's not him, should be someone else

[celest sluice]

Most player interested in snapshots are creators the way I see it

[limber tiger]

is it too hard for an hundreds employees company to announce a delay or some?

[undone crane]

hasn't it been like 45 min

[limber tiger]

well they release snapshot at around 4PM CET

which is 1 hour and an half ago

[undone crane]

what it has always been like 5 pm cet

[limber tiger]

never

[celest sluice]

Ah. And here's the communication you were hungering for.
https://vxtwitter.com/ZerSKYi/status/1990821828969812426

ZerSKYi (@ZerSKYi)

↪️ Replying to @itiswattles

@itiswattles

vxTwitter / fixvx · Nov 18, 2025, 4:38 PM

[limber tiger]

in a youtube chat

even worse

[undone crane]

last few weeks were 5 pc cet no?

[limber tiger]

nope

[celest sluice]

Objectively it's not. It's better than not saying anything

[limber tiger]

twitter, bluesky are a thing

not everyone is checking a specific yt stream

[celest sluice]

Objectively it's not. It's better than not saying anything

[rough path]

Subjectively though.

[undone crane]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/41193948702733-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-21-130-28 preview out yipe

[rough path]

Last preview calling it now.

[foggy isle]

ye

[celest sluice]

We're in the end game now

[limber tiger]

it's the final one for sure

[undone crane]

unless some very critical bugs

[celest sluice]

:)

[devout barn]

Finally

Can't wait for 1.21.140 next week

Or new version numbering system coming by then? 👀

[limber tiger]

let's pray for that option

current system sucks

[celest sluice]

That we can agree on

[limber tiger]

David said it should be announced pretty soon

so i hope later this week

or early next week

[undone crane]

i mean what coudl they improve tho, liek having 1.22, 1.23, 1,24 evry drop isnt better?

[devout barn]

They'll have something

[celest sluice]

Honestly, I think it is

But I don't think that's what they'll do

[devout barn]

David did say they don't want to create an expectation of a major update every year

Although imo, that's only a problem short-term

After they speed through enough versions, people will get used to it

Like bedrock's 1.21 updates up to .130 now lol

Also I'd like to mention bedrock did used to increment the second number for every content update they did, they only changed in 1.16 to match the annual major update scheme, and now that's no longer a thing

[undone crane]

i am so used to that .130 thing that i don't mind it anymroe really tbh

[devout barn]

yeah, and 1.16 still holds the record at 1.16.221 (and 1.16.230 in beta)

[rich vault]

New xbox app background is sick

[half depot]

I think that's for COD. Pretty cool lookin

[limber tiger]

https://x.com/slicedlime/status/1990829356571046307?s=20

slicedlime 💙💛 (@slicedlime)

No snapshot today folks, sorry - we ran into some problems when building today. Should have something tomorrow!

X · Nov 18, 2025, 5:08 PM

better than nothing

[torn pond]

i wonder what we'll see in .140

please custom superflats

[elfin flower]

flying car

[torn pond]

I do wonder how they'll make custom superflats interact with add-ons, if they do at all.

like, it'd make sense if you could use blocks from an add-on for a superflat world layer

but that'd require the game to let you access those blocks before loading into a world

[elfin flower]

well honestly they could fetch the custom blocks list but won't able to display the icon that much

considering RP required the game to be reloaded in the first place.

They're able to do stuff like this just fine as they already did to manifest where the title and description lang strings can be read without the need of reloading anything.

[torn pond]

hm, no icons would be a problem.

[elfin flower]

it is, yeah.

unless they implement a manual reload button that should reloads the game with active packs on but it's really tricky and probably hacky even.

oh yeah, Ore-UI can't even properly display 3d stuff yet. i guess the block texture would be flat or just pre-rendered.

[devout barn]

My guess is that custom superflat will be moved to Editor, as the UI would fit better in there.
And functionality will be handled through add-ons

Editor already supports custom blocks I believe as well

[noble vortex]

anyone else having an issue with custom stairs cornering with itself? works with vanilla in any orientation, and with custom in most - issue appears to be exclusively inner_left and inner_right states. does anyone know enough about this yet to be worth opening a thread on the blocks channel?

specifically, the block state is "stuck" at "none" when it should be inner-left or -right.

[rough path]

Anyone know if placeFeatureRule doesn't actually respect seed? I am running the command in a lot of chunks and I'm getting the same patterns.

[spring veldt]

I actually have been having that issue too. No clue on why.

[noble vortex]

as far as I can tell, outer corner works properly *until * you extend the short side, then state reverts to "none". All other corner states work as expected; I submitted a bug report.

[rough path]

Link?

[manic tinsel]

I only just saw this. No this is not true and I have no clue where Snave got this notion from considering he worked with us and we *never * used them or knew anyone who used them

[wind spoke]

Honestly I have no idea. My best guess is that he's referring to products from the very very early days of the Marketplace when it was the Wild West.

Speaking of the whole crazy thing to render those, it's coming along very well.

He later mentioned in this convo his grievance with Bedrock enforcing box UV, but that hasn't been a thing for a while now.

[manic tinsel]

Yeah I have no clue where he got that from lol
The Marketplace back in 2017/18 was less restrictive but we still had rules lol. Like I said I never knew anyone to use them other than just to mess around in a private world for fun.

[wind spoke]

I'll ask him later since apparently this is a mystery confusing everyone. lol

[languid tinsel]

Hello

[lapis sierra]

I missed your ping and have decided to reply to this ping after 2 months. Honestly I regret the whole air tag thing. I took it too far and really ruined relations with other people including mj devs.

So basically I don't reccomend crusading for a feature to be added at all. Just making your suggestion known is best.

[limber tiger]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-1-21-11-pre-release-1

[wintry lantern]

They should just change the version numbering to Semver (already talked about it before). The perfect way would probably be changing 1.22.23 (e.g.) to 22.2.3 or smth and increase the first number with drops
I think this makes sense(?), interested in what mojang is going to do

[steady gate]

Yeah, I never understood the whole “1.xx.xx.x” thing. I guess it’s due to once the game got out of beta but now it just kind of looks like there will be a Minecraft 2 😂.. Semver would definitely make more sense

[fringe island]

I honestly like the way Bedrock is versioned, I think they could keep it that way, but the problem is that we're stuck on version 21 because previously that was used for major updates and we don't know if we'll have major updates anymore.

[wind spoke]

Mojang must be scared of the number 22.

[wintry lantern]

Valve with 3 ahh

[torn pond]

i think we just need like

a 1.22

[fringe island]

I think they could change that number when it reaches .90. I know it doesn't make sense because there's no logical reason, but I like the idea.

[torn pond]

tbh drops should just count as full updates imo.

unless they have plans to do a proper major 1.22 in the near future

we've had 1.x updates smaller than some of these drops

[wind spoke]

So true. The second number in a SemVer is meant for breaking changes, which include content updates.

But no, they break everything with what are meant to be patches.

[torn pond]

just because some recent updates were bigger doesn't mean a smaller update just shouldn't count as 1.X

like, is 1.1 a drop now? 1.2? 1.3? 1.4?

1.10?

those updates were a similar size to something like Garden Awakens

[rough path]

They're not going to retroactively* reclassify past updates

*one article mentioned Tricky Trials as a drop

[torn pond]

sure, 1.16 was huge, but the reason people were disappointed with smaller updates wasn't because they were 1.x updates, it was because they were small for once a year things and had disappointing announcements because they tried too hard to keep community expectations low.

if this year's drops were just called 1.22, 1.23, 1.24 and 1.25, would people suddenly be mad that they're smaller just because of the different version number?

[wind spoke]

Nah they should forget about numbering systems and label them all with SHA256 hashes written in base64.

[torn pond]

The drops system works because keeping the number at 1.21.X keeps raising people's expectations for what a 1.22 will be

but then if 1.22 is disappointing, or doesn't release anytime soon, then this system just causes more issues because it removes the version number parity they achieved with like, nether update or village and pillage or whatever, and hypes people up only to disappoint them.

[wintry lantern]

They should just call stuff like Mounts of Mayhem Patch 1

[torn pond]

alternatively, just do what the april fools updates do

and put words in the version numbers.

1.21.Garden
1.21.Spring
1.21.Ghast
1.21.Copper
1.21.Mayhem

[rough path]

I have seen some horrible suggestions...this might top it.

[torn pond]

1.21.End.125.32

1.Major.Drop (Name).PatchHotfix.Preview

[plush wedge]

Minecraft does not fulfill requirement 1 of semver:

Software using Semantic Versioning MUST declare a public API.
Since there is no public API, there is no concept of a backward incompatible change to the API.
If you consider the world format the API, then Minecraft is correct to still be on major version 1, since worlds remain compatible. If you consider something else, like the server protocol or commands to be the API, then they have their own increasing version numbers distinct from the game version.

[torn pond]

i feel like it makes sense to be the worlds

[torn pond]

just you wait for 1.21.Fletch

[quasi wedge]

That would be comical considering I've just removed the fletching table from my add-on

[limber tiger]

1.21.130 is done but they still haven't fixed attachables model in 1st person

https://report.bugs.mojang.com/servicedesk/customer/portal/6/MCPE-126660

lmao

2021

[onyx gulch]

(MCPE-126660) Bow, Crossbow, Trident, Shield, and Spyglass are not displayed properly when held in first person view when using a classic skin with a cape equipped

Status

To Do (Reopened)

Resolution

Unresolved

[elfin flower]

They're like 50% fixed btw.

[limber tiger]

Well if you apply a cape it breaks

[elfin flower]

That is almost not the case anymore that's why im saying that.

Classic slim skin with cape has this fixed on the latest preview.

But regular classic skin with cape somehow does not.

And they kinda somehow break it where classic slim and regular has their attachable shifted or offset'd to the side even without capes.

Other than that, Only character skin (not the classic one) does not have this issue, ever.

I don't exactly know about marketplace skin either since it can be fully custom model or regular classic one.

[limber tiger]

mfw mojang don't check ingame their changes

for these who don't understand, they removed the back of the head in order to remove z-fighting but now it makes the head back empty

[tropic chasm]

😭

[marble karma]

Bruh.mp3

[limber tiger]

where is mojang QA for fuck sake

[quasi wedge]

Wait I thought I just did something wrong with my attachable, but I never figured out what was wrong because sometimes it worked perfectly and others it didn't

[fossil walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-endgame-gone-reduced-to-atoms-gif-26539274

[fringe island]

That's strange, the zombie horse was programmed to spawn in ice plains, but it only reads grass blocks, meaning it will never spawn in that biome until the player removes the snow or in covered areas.

[gusty fulcrum]

Hey guys is Hiding items in command now viable?

[dawn fable]

Yes https://wiki.bedrock.dev/items/item-format-history#_1-21-120

[limber tiger]

https://x.com/NovaWostra/status/1991622393606074599

Nova Wostra (@NovaWostra)

"drops will release when they are done"
"stop complaining, it will get fixed, its just snapshots"
"market as works as intended"
this is just one of many examples over the last year of obvious bugs and oversights that where not fixed and left for dead after the drop released.

X · Nov 20, 2025, 9:39 PM

lol

[gusty fulcrum]

Thanks

[limber tiger]

now that ore ui is almost everywhere

can't they add a slide to have a custom ui scaler

instead of 75 & 100

[rough path]

The gui scale or?

[limber tiger]

yeah

[hasty grotto]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/41224903492621-Minecraft-1-21-124-Bedrock

[limber tiger]

https://x.com/Minecraft/status/1991932725360738739?s=20

Minecraft (@Minecraft)

A new Bedrock Edition update has been released to address issues discovered in the 1.21.120 release. The update will be rolling out to the various platforms as they become available, so please allow time for the update to reach you.

Read more here: https://t.co/sc36PdQwIX

X · Nov 21, 2025, 6:12 PM

VERY RARE MOJANG COMMUNCATION

WHOA

[tropic coral]

they didn't fix the worst issue

memory leaks

[celest sluice]

It was mentioned in the change log. You still experience it?

[tropic coral]

Yeah

Didn't notice any changes after update

Pnly the cursor thing

[cerulean quarry]

Hight memory usage doesn't really means memory leak, well once its over 94% in total in task manager then it is

but hight memory consuption is relatively normal for apps, it just doesn't reuse the memory as other process

[edgy abyss]

to address issues discovered in the 1.21.120 release.
These issues were not discovered in the 1.21.120 release 😂
Everyone who played preview has been long aware of this, I mean what kind of statement is that

I feel like mojang is truly in damage control mode, judging by the fact they're announcing a bug-fix patch via their twitter account

[manic tinsel]

I mean it's a statement for the general playerbase. Not everyone plays in the previews so they would not have known about the issues being in there first. Most people first interations would have been 1.21.120
But yes Mojang are clearly realising the lack of communication is damaging the reputation more and more.

[tribal torrent]

more hotfixes, moreeeee

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[olive bear]

guys do you know why mc removed the keybind to turn off/on VV? are they ever gonna add it back?

[rotund pivot]

it was more of just a keybind for testing so it was never supposed to be there officially which is why they removed it

it sure was a good feature though

[olive bear]

thats sad why they didnt just let it there

[simple steppe]

didn't they re-add that
it is in the world setting iirc

[olive bear]

but we want a button click and not 100 clicks to turn it on

[simple steppe]

it is a toggle for the keybinding

[celest sluice]

It's a toggle for a toggle. The keybind no longer exists

[simple steppe]

bruh

[rotund forge]

anyone else got that big where full screening will full crash your game or trying to adjust mionecraft's size?

[rotund pivot]

Why dont we still have an easy way to add on screen buttons

Or custom keybinds

So we can do things like press F to use this skill

In chinese version you apparently can do that

[rough path]

Well China isn't Bedrock so ...

[rotund pivot]

There is a chinese edition based on bedrock engine

Which has all the things im talking about here

In fact im pretty sure they were inspired by the chinese version to add scripting in the first place

[rough path]

It's a modified version of the Bedrock Engine and they have a different team and scope.

[rotund pivot]

They are taking just so long to give us what we actually want
Like custom dimensions, custom block UI, custom keybinds and buttons.

[rough path]

There's much more needed before those should be implemented.

[rotund pivot]

Also why are they still so silent about ore UI customization.

[rough path]

Wdym?

[rotund pivot]

We dont have a confirmation on whether or not it will be customizable

The ore UI

[rough path]

We did though from VOlgar's tweets.

[rotund pivot]

Too vague for me

[rough path]

That's still not being silent though.

[rotund pivot]

It said you will be able to, but not through resource packs (?)

[rough path]

But I get what you mean.

There's just no updates on it so why bother rehashing the same things.

[rotund pivot]

Thnaks for understanding me

[fringe island]

Is the numeric ID of items changed every time new items are added in the version?

[willow harness]

Don't think so, that would break so many things so quickly

[fringe island]

Ah yes, I'm trying to understand, for wiki notes, but I didn't quite get it.

[willow harness]

Fair

[fringe island]

In Bedrock wiki It says the netherite sword's ID is 640, but in my in-game tests it came out to 646.

[willow harness]

That's weird

All i know is there is no way they'll change an item's id

So the wiki is just wrong maybe

[rotund forge]

Anyone know the fix to the f11 thing on pc?

[willow harness]

Oh damn, I didn't know that

[plush wedge]

What test would that be?

[white fractal]

there was an item id list provided by microsoft but seems the page was removed

[celest sluice]

I only know about custom buttons. I haven't seen any Chinese addons do custom keybinds 🤔

[tribal walrus]

Data driving parts of mc bedrock has been making the game worse and worse ever since they started with the uis back in 2016

Movement simulation isn't needed in most players' worlds, and should be off by default

Are these bad takes?

[spring arrow]

They have custom bindings, I found this in their docs

Also they have client scripting

[rotund pivot]

you see that too? they use python for all of it instead of javascript

always wondered why javascript was the chosen language. not that its bad or anything

[spring arrow]

Yup, they use python and have they own modapi

They don’t use scripting api

Netease modapi also support client side scripting

[rotund pivot]

didnt we use to have some client stuff when script api was first made and then it got removed?

[celest sluice]

I can't read that but I'll believe you

[spring arrow]

They have they own system made from scratch

[celest sluice]

It was kinda limited to be fair. The client script does mostly what we can do now, apart from adding custom UI

although judging from the new DDUI files, that might come soon too

[rotund pivot]

hopefully

[spring arrow]

DDUI will be server side?

[celest sluice]

DDUI is client side

It's basically JSON UI 2.0

At least, as far as we can see right now

Legacy scripting had limited HTML support

[spring arrow]

We will can create our own custom ui with functionality?

[celest sluice]

We'll see

But we do know that's Mojang's goal

They want to replace JSON UI so they'll have to make it just as, if not more capable than it

[spring arrow]

China edition can’t change now ore ui

[celest sluice]

It's a relatively recent tech. Maybe this time they're coordinating with Mojang

Rather than doing their own thing

btw, I find it weird that Bedrock China even has custom keybind support. IIRC it's publically only available on mobile platforms, with Java being on PC

[spring arrow]

Many Chinese addons use jsonui so i think that they want to make ore ui compatible with jsonui

[celest sluice]

The same goes for marketplace content

and official servers

[spring arrow]

I don’t think that this is problem for servers

[celest sluice]

Servers use JSON UI extensively to modify server forms

And in many cases the HUD

Without JSON UI, the menus would look very bland

[spring arrow]

Servers can be updated to use ddui but what they will make with unmaintained marketplace worlds

[celest sluice]

If I were to guess. Backwards compatibility

They'll deprecate it, but keep it in the game for older worlds

Just like how older worlds can still use legacy world gen

[rotund pivot]

well they would end up removing json ui at some point. look at the first marketplace map to use script api. that still uses modules of "mojang-minecraft" so that will never work again. so im sure theyll do the same with json ui

at some point itll be removed to and people will be forced to leave their json ui and worlds behind or update them to ore ui

[celest sluice]

The 0.1.0 beta API is still here for backwards compatibility iirc

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you disagreeing or agreeing with me?

[spring arrow]

I haven't watched addons for a long time, but what is mojang-Minecraft?

[celest sluice]

They might be trying to say @minecraft/server

which is a scripting module

[rotund pivot]

🤷‍♂️ idk lol. i mean if they leave in some kind of backwards compatibility then thats good

[undone crane]

China has windowds builds too

[celest sluice]

For public gameplay or developer purposes?

[rotund pivot]

mojang-minecraft is what script api used to be before it got updated to @minecraft/server

[celest sluice]

I only know of the latter

[undone crane]

both

[spring arrow]

We also have leaked china dev builds

[celest sluice]

Where is it available?

[rotund pivot]

either way you cant play the china edition unless you can make an account which requires a local phone number

[celest sluice]

I know that, but the website can still be found internationally with a way to download the launcher

Is the bedrock version available in said launcher?

[spring arrow]

Yes but idk how it work

[undone crane]

idk if i am allowed to send the link here

[celest sluice]

How are you not allowed if it's publically available?

[spring arrow]

Win32 builds of china edition?

[undone crane]

fair ig https://mc.163.com/

[celest sluice]

The website changed a lot since I last visited it. It looks a lot more like the international version now

[celest sluice]

Instead of comparing Java with Bedrock, it's comparing Bedrock(Windows) with Bedrock(mobile)

[rotund pivot]

lol

download immediately 🤣

the lowercase c hurts too

[celest sluice]

I get "Download Now"

[rotund pivot]

auto translate is perfect. no problems 💀 totally

[celest sluice]

I'm using Bing. What are you using?

[rotund pivot]

firefox with google search engine

[rotund pivot]

Is it different from the OreUI?

[dawn fable]

it's used by ore UI

[celest sluice]

I'm pretty sure it is OreUI. The datadriven side of it

[rotund pivot]

Im wondering whats gonna happen to all the servers and marketplace packs once they deprecate json

Are they just gonna break

[dawn fable]

eventually I'd hope so because keeping an old ui system in the game would be a waste

[celest sluice]

Servers can update, but marketplace packs I guess we'll get backwards compatibility like worldgen

[hasty grotto]

not again

[rotund pivot]

Iirc they were inspired by china edition to intially add scripting to bedrock

[fringe island]

With ty el ui

[edgy abyss]

I mean netease implemented all that in 1-2 years tbh. So I dont think thats a valid excuse why it would take so long to implement on the global version

[edgy abyss]

I mean that is like, the main point of it.

[rough path]

Netease also has pets and other shenanigans

Custom dimensions still need:

• Modifiable terrain generation
• Overriding biomes outside the overworld
• Blocks to make up features(this is being chipped away)

[edgy abyss]

Blocks to make up features?

[rough path]

Severely outdated

but Making custom trees before was terrible without the distance based rendering or culling.

[tribal torrent]

preview week this week?

[rough path]

Probably not.

Thanksgiving.

[tribal torrent]

[fringe island]

Now in next year

Preview next year

I'm honestly quite excited for the small update 1.21.140 as it should stabilize some very good things from 1.21.130.

[torn pond]

now that we have static light, the main 2 things i want are

• custom superflats
• MCPE-230030 fix

well, also deferred experiment in stable

deferred experimental creator features, shortened down to deferrimental creatures

[onyx gulch]

(MCPE-230030) Vibrant Visuals: Xbox Series S reflection linear search step count is set too low

Votes

1

Project

MCPE

Created

<t:1761555798:R>

Updated

<t:1763396669:R>

Status

To Do (Open)

Since version

1.21.130.20 Preview

Resolution

Unresolved

Fix version

Unset

[rough path]

What?

[rough path]

Yeah...nah.

That should be one of the only preview only things imo.

[torn pond]

why :<

kind of feels odd for this to be a preview only thing imo. Like, this is something that's almost certainly going to make it into the base game at this point.

meanwhile villager experiments are now just stuck as an experiment in stable and there's no signs of that being worked on further.

[rough path]

Gameplay team experiment vs creator team experiment.

[torn pond]

aren't there creator features locked behind experimental in stable, too?

[rough path]

Now that aside, I think that having creators use the bleeding edge for VV helps accelerate the API more.

[rough path]

Should have gone with that instead of the VTR experiment.

[torn pond]

true i guess. I feel like villager should be the one that's preview only.

[rough path]

No.

Especially if it's basically abandoned.

I think that the RD experiment is the most unstable of all experiments.

Like, diabolically unstable and underperformant.

[torn pond]

is it?

it used to be, sure

but recently it's been pretty good for me

even with a lot of point lights

[rough path]

Point lights quite literally kills your performance.

[torn pond]

nowhere near as much as they used to

[rough path]

And now you enable it for mobile users on Stable which leads to more Bugrock memes.

[rough path]

Point lights for a 5070 does nothing to performance compared to point lights for a mobile gpu.

[torn pond]

i think they could significantly reduce point light render distance to match point light shadow RD (maybe increase shadow RD a bit)

that would probably help performance

now that we have static light, long distance point lights are less important (plus they just don't look good when they glow through walls because point light render distance is far longer than point light shadow distance)

since with static light, you already see colored light no matter how far you are from the light source

[eternal shoal]

They still do on my rtx 3060 ti

Having the on medium with shadows on medium kills my pc

[torn pond]

odd. My PC is far weaker

i have a very outdated GPU now

[rough path]

I only get below 30 fps on those RTX maps with all my settings maxxed.

[tribal torrent]

that’s odd, last time i checked they made great strides for pointlights on my phone

ig ill test again

not as low as 13fps like it used to be

[limber tiger]

1.21.140 preview week ??

[charred geode]

is the panorama background in the main menu static for everyone or is it just me?

it turns out that it is controlled by the screen animations setting, is there a way to make it not affected by it with UI?

it seems to be hardcoded 😒

[white fractal]

try enabling screen animations, but use json ui to disable ui animations

[zealous salmon]

yeah it's been that way for a few versions now

[charred geode]

ummm no, too much work

[white fractal]

umm, not quite

[white fractal]

just override some global variables

[edgy abyss]

I mean, fairly recent tho

[limber tiger]

quick question guys

I'm working with a bedrock server and I would like to know if players would be able to use Vibrant Visuals if i put the pbr module inside of manifest

[rough path]

There is also this in the server.properties

#disable-client-vibrant-visuals=true
# If true, the server will tell clients to use the next best available graphics setting instead of Vibrant Visuals.

[limber tiger]

does that work with pocketmines servers?

[zealous salmon]

If your min engine version is set to 1.21.120, then yes

if not, you need to set product_type to addon

[limber tiger]

okay well it's a pocketmine server we don't use add-ons

[zealous salmon]

and yeah like what smokey sent, you need to make sure VV is not being force disabled in the StartGamePacket. I'm not sure if pocketmine does that or not

[limber tiger]

only code stuff

[zealous salmon]

that's unrelated

it's just something you put in your resource pack manifest

[limber tiger]

well we don't use add-ons

ah okay

[zealous salmon]

you don't need to

[limber tiger]

Wait, so if a player want tu use VV, they won't be able because I read "If true, the server will tell clients to use the next best available graphics setting instead of Vibrant Visuals."

[rough path]

Just set it to false then.

[proud bronze]

I'm having trouble typing in-game, either within a world or on the main menu. However, the keyboard is not the problem since I can move around or select buttons. I've already tried several versions, so I don't think it's a version issue. This problem started right when I decided to buy the game; I should have kept pirating XD

Has anyone else experienced something similar? I'm going crazy, it's probably some external application.

[simple steppe]

Try the preview

[proud bronze]

I've tried that too.

Right now I'm trying to uninstall everything related to Microsoft

I've already reached the extreme option

[simple steppe]

Were you the guy i talked to before about the problem?
If not then you aren't alone

[proud bronze]

No, this problem is recent. I haven't spoken about it with anyone until now.

The problem persists

[simple steppe]

It is from gdk release

[zenith aspen]

banana

[latent vault]

banana day

banana is now

[foggy isle]

BANANAAA!!!!!

[zenith aspen]

[limber tiger]

1.21.140!!

[zenith aspen]

[torn pond]

1.21.160

[limber tiger]

Or 1.21.130.29 which I highly doubt

[fringe island]

Or none

[limber tiger]

I doubt but could be delayed

[rotund pivot]

update drops and when you open changelogs it just has 2 bug fixes 😭

[limber tiger]

1.21.130.29 type shit 💀

[rough path]

It be Thanksgiving week. So either today or next week.

[limber tiger]

So next drop is for sure releasing Dec 9th

[latent vault]

banana wasnt now 😭

[undone crane]

we still have 1h smh

[latent vault]

banana is soon?

[limber tiger]

we will found out soon

[limber tiger]

yeah it's probably over

[rotund pivot]

rip update 🥀

[limber tiger]

see you next week