General Discussion

[worldly jackal]

😢

[zealous salmon]

How does one actually play the CTF server, I just seem to be in a world where I cannot do anything other than read a book which everyone keeps flicking through

[hoary forge]

There should be an NPC next to the lecterns

No idea if they broke anything as I haven't joined since yesterday

[zealous salmon]

Oh I guess my server was broken, I rejoined and I see an NPC now

[hoary forge]

That makes sense

[zealous salmon]

I think the actual game itself was broken lol, there was no blue flag and i couldn't pick up the red flag (other team)

Okay it works again after rejoining

[charred geode]

Is there a new event server?

[rough path]

No. Its a stress test server

[charred geode]

oh, i was wondering why it didn't pop up for me

[edgy abyss]

It doesnt even display for me how do you all do it huh

[zealous salmon]

Once you're in, you run forward to an NPC and play in either Arena or Castle. Top right it'll tell you your team, if everything is working alright then you can just run to the other colour and get the flag and return it. First to 3 wins

Then you shoot players with a bow, that's the only item you have, and you have 3 lives

[edgy abyss]

The gettin in part is the problem lol

Oh it shows on my phone now

It didnt yesterday on pc

[elfin flower]

it's random atm, sometimes people able to see them or maybe not. i got trolled twice with this.

the game is, well. easily broken as people will usually steal them flag and kill people with it for whatever reason this thing does oneshot people.

[hoary forge]

Try clearing Marketplace cache?

[languid tinsel]

They are slowly increasing the player cohorts who can access iirc

[marble karma]

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[charred ocean]

damn

WE DID IT

[celest sluice]

good job. you ruined it

[charred ocean]

we all did

technically

we all ain't gonna stop messaging and stuff are we?

[charred ocean]

And also this pic is 66667th message

so im not the one who ruined

[marble karma]

66667th

[charred ocean]

yea sry my bad lol

fixing my mistake brb

[spring cairn]

interesting

[languid tinsel]

The flag must be captured

[tribal torrent]

oo minigames

[past wharf]

is it permanent minigames or just the new place of events ?

[spring cairn]

Unsure but I'm guessing it's temporary

I wonder why it isn't on the main menu

[past wharf]

yes

no announcement too

[elfin flower]

This is temporary, that's why they're asking us to test their server tech.

it's not gonna last long and is also very quick to get flag runner headband by just playing 2-3 matches.

[past wharf]

I did more than that

[elfin flower]

depends on the game mode, yeah.

this isn't just CTF map, but is also deathmatch.

[past wharf]

? what ?

for me there is just capture the flag

[elfin flower]

what are you playing mate

a small map or what

[past wharf]

I can't connect right now

[past wharf]

maybe

the games lasted 1 minute max

[elfin flower]

small map one is actually CTP, the large map or castle map is deathmatch even though there's flag but they do nothing anyways.

[past wharf]

also it's so weird, why do we one shot others with the flag in hand ?

[elfin flower]

this is a testing server.

[past wharf]

okay okay

[elfin flower]

obviously there'll be oversight.

[past wharf]

more than that

[charred ocean]

welp. I can't see the server anymore on my mobile

is it a platform specific thing? Idk why I can't see it when im on mobile

[elfin flower]

Not really but they do usually shut it down and fix some stuff.

try to clear marketplace cache and see if it shows up for you again. if not then it's probably offline or just gone.

[charred ocean]

oh ok so it's not really a 24/7 thing alr

[manic tinsel]

I think it's turned off right now!

[limber tiger]

CUSTOM MODEL ON BEDROCK??????????

[fluid wadi]

They are using a different vanilla model, like potted azalea or something similar. I’ve done it before

[limber tiger]

ooooh okay

[tropic coral]

There's a resource pack made by fused bolt that does exactly this but better

[warm shale]

So, what about the new redstone torch model?
What about the new minecart physics?

[rough path]

What about it?

[warm shale]

Have we received this in bedrock yet?
Last time I checked, no.

[rough path]

No.

[warm shale]

Oh, sad

[manic tinsel]

The Minecart physics are still behind an experiment in Java from what I know

[random karma]

This is true

Odd that it was not stabilised for Chase the Skies, considering the themes of the drop

[manic tinsel]

Yeah whats more odd is some of the things in the Experiment are just really nice bug fixes for Minecarts not even physic changes XD
I assume they might be holding off until Bedrock can get it in themselves?

[charred ocean]

i don't think they have forgotten this yet

as a gameplay team i think it just didn't fit for them to implement it out of experimental

[inner ivy]

I was thinking about a block component that allows custom block to be replaced into moss if a bonemealed moss block was nearby

[rough path]

I feel like thats better suited for a tag.

Which, Java does anyways since bonemealing a moss places a moss feature if I recall.

[inner ivy]

oh yeah, forgot about tag for a moment

[marble karma]

Will we be getting more in game content this week?

[tropic chasm]

I would like if they could look into the copper gear tbh

Would be great if the copper tools were as fast as gold but they oxidize and become slow idk

So is not like more trash in the game

#purpose

[limber tiger]

and to un-oxidize them you can put your tools with an axe inside a crafting table

[torn pond]

i think if any armor set needs a use right now, it's chainmail.

copper serves the purpose of an early game set, before you have full iron. Leather is a cheap set you can get without mining, can be dyed, and used to walk on powder snow. Gold is fast and keeps you safe from piglins. (but gold sword and armor could use stat buffs since unlike tools, they aren't really worth it)

chainmail... isn't an early game set, you need to trade with villagers or find it in chests. It doesn't have any special use. It's not particularly good. It's purely decorative. I'm not sure when you're supposed to use it besides if you just happen to find it in a chest.

Given that the Nether Update made gold armor a use and Caves and Cliffs gave leather a use, it means the End Update will buff chainmail

[tropic chasm]

It already serves a purpose

Is a trophy

You can’t craft it

[torn pond]

Not rare enough to be a trophy

[random karma]

yeah

[torn pond]

You can get it from villagers

[random karma]

it can be bought from villagers

oop

[torn pond]

Yeah

[tropic chasm]

Is a easy trophy

It servers a better purpose than copper lol

[random karma]

armour system is kinda linear and boring

[tropic chasm]

Because is limited

[torn pond]

Armor trims are the trophy for armor

[tropic chasm]

I would love if Mojang introduced magical defense

[torn pond]

Copper is an early game set before you have a lot of iron

[tropic chasm]

At the moment there’s nothing you can do about magic

[tropic chasm]

I can assure you I will have full iron before full copper

[random karma]

personally would prefer a rework to the armour system, to make armour viable at any point in the game, relating to playstyle

[tropic chasm]

Because is not smart to spend time mining copper

I would love magical defense

[random karma]

yup

[tropic chasm]

So that I can protect myself against wither and poison

[torn pond]

1 copper vein, 8 ore, is a full set

[tropic chasm]

I also would prefer better mobs because Minecraft is even easier than Mario bros

[torn pond]

And copper is very common

[tropic chasm]

Nobody will change my mind about copper gear sorry

I’m very close minded about it

Because it serves no purpose

[random karma]

my vision of armour is that they'd all have gimicks or have stats geared towards different damage sources

[torn pond]

They can't make it anything but an early game set

[tropic chasm]

Mine is a bit different

[torn pond]

Because trial chambers give you thousands of copper blocks

[tropic chasm]

I just have physical damage and magical damage in my mind and heaviness.

If there was a heaviness system

Copper could have a purpose

But eh

[tropic chasm]

Good luck finding it

[random karma]

The community would be absolutely pissed if armour had weight, which slowed you down

[tropic chasm]

Systems either change or die

Minecraft is too easy.

[random karma]

well, it's supposed to be a sandbox

[torn pond]

https://tenor.com/view/thesis-please-major-partagaz-andor-isb-galactic-empire-gif-4137159446559399673

[random karma]

why it got as popular

difficulty isn't a worry, it's choice

at the moment, all of the new content is so godamn linear as far as progression goes

[tropic chasm]

Not a choice at all

[random karma]

copper armour feeds into that

[tropic chasm]

Specially when hard mode is not hard

[torn pond]

Difficulty needs a rework

[random karma]

I mean, choice is the problem

[tropic chasm]

It shouldn’t, having chooses is important

I should be able to play the game however I want

If I want Minecraft to be hard then so be it

If I want it easy

[random karma]

that's what I'm saying

[tropic chasm]

So be it

I’m saying all this like I play Minecraft lol

[torn pond]

I wish we could turn off beds but right now, if you do, phantoms still exist

[tropic chasm]

I have to create a new world with VV still

[random karma]

everything is so linear, and there is not much actual choice as far as playstyle goes

[tropic chasm]

The only way to make Minecraft hard is to let mobs hit you

[random karma]

there is some ammound as you "progress" though a world, but all roads lead to the same ending

[torn pond]

Turning off phantoms shouldn't be a cheat. It should be a setting like beds.

(and make it so they're off by default so we can pretend they were never added)

[tropic chasm]

Phantoms are annoying as hell though

But I think is better to make them not spawn than good way to vanish them from the world

[torn pond]

They deal more damage on bedrock easy than java hard

Why

[tropic chasm]

You said peaceful and I was like wha

Either way we love Minecraft and I love it more now that we have VV

I’m a builder myself so wiiii

[torn pond]

I just want Series S reflections fixed in VV

[elfin flower]

not sure if i like the current state of VV where it still flashbangs me on my phone.

[tropic chasm]

😔

I need VV in switch 2

[torn pond]

I wonder if we'll see more superflat presets

We have all the java ones now

Without the features and structures

[elfin flower]

hate this say this but, yeah i'm not liking it so far chief.

[torn pond]

Not Vibrant enough?

[elfin flower]

not enough brightness i suppose.

[prisma niche]

Too vibrant, no visuals

[elfin flower]

Is the abandoned villages still exist on bedrock anyhow?

I feel like i haven't seen abandoned villages for years now.

[sleek grail]

I think so

[marble karma]

Until mojang remembers they only exist on bedrock too

[sleek grail]

Aren't they on Java? Wiki doesn't mention them being exlusive to bedrock unless I misesd it

There's an image of an abandoned village captioned as being on Java

[elfin flower]

They're on java as usual, but bedrock is, well. extremely rare.

I've seen on bedrock multiple times before but the more i play, the less i seen those villages.

it's like they're never existed ever since.

honestly it is more rarer than igloos.

[torn pond]

They were far too common at one point.

compared to how often they're supposed to spawn

tbh i feel like them being more common was fine, but it wasn't in parity with java.

There's an "abandoned village" seed template in the seed picker that spawns you near one

also they really should fix river colouring with VV as it's so weird to have the sky completely change as soon as you go over a river.

[charred ocean]

yeah the point is that these villages haven't been seen much in regular worlds

Neither did I on Java or bedrock

these villages are rare yes

[torn pond]

they're meant to be extremely rare.
personally, i wish they used the old village design to differentiate them more

[elfin flower]

they're more common during pre-"cave and cliff" update afaik.

[torn pond]

yeah, because they set their spawn rate far higher than on java.

[elfin flower]

though kinda sad that there's nothing but free webs i guess lmao

[torn pond]

yeah.

[charred ocean]

yeah maybe the houses from old design should have been used somewhat

to have some variations

[torn pond]

yeah. I still like the old village design :<

my creative flat world has a bunch of them since it was created before village and pillage

[elfin flower]

i like old village but new one could be better if they don't use the damn clay everywhere.

[charred ocean]

wait what

[elfin flower]

most village houses regardless which biomes you are, they'll have clay as their house structure material.

[torn pond]

my creative world is mostly between 2 classic villages

but there are a few more around it too

these were nice, idk why they changed them :<

[rough path]

Bedrocks abandoene villages was like 50% befofe they were vrought to 5% for parity.

[charred ocean]

maybe getting the big house models could go well

[torn pond]

multiple houses here are made of clay

[charred ocean]

yk the big ones

[charred ocean]

Yea

[half depot]

Problem is that rivers are counted as their own biome

So unless they make new ones like "desert_river" that likely won't happen

[torn pond]

i think making the transition slower would at least help. Right now, it changes almost instantly as soon as you step out of a desert.
Or maybe they could make it somehow check for nearby biomes and have it be a more gradual transition, like how grass doesn't instantly change colour as soon as you go from one biome to another?

and then just have it be gradual enough that the rivers always keep some of the nearest biome i guess

[half depot]

Could work

Rivers are just so weird. Fog seems to inherit previous biome. At least I feel that it does

[torn pond]

this colour swap is especially noticable in deserts since they're so drastically different from anywhere else. (and i guess, pale gardens probably)

[half depot]

Yea

[half depot]

It seems to be this way in RTX cuz there's many moments I'll be over a river and it won't change the water/fog

RTX water is based on the fog file so it doesn't have the in world blending that VV does

[torn pond]

wait it already does the second one

there is a gradual shift. It's just very fast

so i guess the fix would be extending it?

here's the shift as i move a few blocks to the side

maybe they could make it so rivers take more of the biomes from which they're transitioned to this way then, reducing how much of their own thing they are visually (unless there's no other biome but river nearby)? idk how doable that'd be with the way VV is set up.

[nocturne sage]

The thing is that "river" is it's own biome

That overrides whatever biome it cut through during generation, even tho rivers only generate after the basic biome map

[celest sluice]

don't rivers generate alongside the basic biome map using peaks and valleys noise?

[inner ivy]

my bad about the ping sorry sorry

forgot to erase my previous message

theres a cut in the middle of the hotbar

i got no rp on

[azure spade]

When Preview?

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is with great honour to announce that it might be preview day

When do Previews usually happen?

Previews starting from March 11, 2025 will try to release on a Tuesday: https://bsky.app/profile/jorax.bsky.social/post/3lk4lhrpmoc2p

Jul 8, 2025, 12:02 AM

[zenith aspen]

anana

[foggy isle]

😔

[charred ocean]

lmao i forgot today is a preview day

[sleek grail]

Wonder what we'll get today

Improved spawn rules perhaps

[rough path]

I doubt there's a preview today due to 4th of July weekend and the devs going on vacation.

[charred ocean]

probably a delay

[sleek grail]

Forgot about that

[zenith aspen]

[charred ocean]

no worries

previews won't go anywhere

[charred geode]

It's been a while since i was exited for the preview day

[torn pond]

believe in the frog until someone confirms otherwise.

🐸

[zenith aspen]

🍌

[celest sluice]

Ba..nana?

[willow harness]

Did someone say banana?

[fluid wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-intensifies-gif-24217724

Even if it’s not today

Every six days on average, a country celebrates independence from the British. The USA did so this past weekend, so the preview might be delayed. Depends on how they did it at the Bedrock office

[torn pond]

I wonder if we'll get more emissive, non-glowing blocks at some point.

[rough path]

What am I looking at?

[torn pond]

its just a small hut.

with a bunch of red glowing in the sky, somewhat inspired by In Stars And Time

well, the area itself isn't. It was originally just going to be a hut in a dark area with some emissive things i'd decide on, more based on a LittleBigPlanet level, but i didn't know what to do with them and i wanted to see how it'd look with this, give it a more ominous atmosphere maybe.

so, kind of a bunch of ideas thrown together into a random build in my creative world

sadly, maps in glow item frames are broken with VV so you can't use them for custom emissive blocks until that's fixed. (also we still need 16x16 maps imo for easy in-game custom textures)

[torn pond]

given how big last week's preview was, i wouldn't expect anything too big this week anyway

but we'll see i guess

[fringe island]

I only want technical resources

[torn pond]

I'm holding out hope for VV fixes.

MCPE-222356 (XSS reflections. which i think is labeled wrong. They're not just reflecting a single block, but they are far smaller than they should be), MCPE-222821 (XSS render distance), MCPE-222310 (the one i just noticed now while building this, maps in glow item frames aren't emissive)

[quasi wedge]

Feels like if I use VV I need to add material for custom held 3D items or they just look disgusting

[shadow mason]

Attachables are quite discoloured in VV, its still on the long bug list...

[quasi wedge]

I hope it's just a bug and not meant to be like that

[shadow mason]

It's a bug, don't worry :)

[dusty shale]

yeah, actions and stuff with vv on looks terrible when holding stuff

[quasi wedge]

did they say it was or did someone report it as a bug

[shadow mason]

They have mentioned it being on a long VV bug list, which still grows due to MP compatibility etc

[shadow mason]

didn't they fix it with the v1.5 A&S release?

[dusty shale]

I could check

[upbeat wyvern]

Do you think there will be an update today?

[shadow mason]

should be rather simple to "hot-fix", by just adjusting the colouring

[shadow mason]

likely not :)

I suspect we'll see some stuff on Wednesday instead

[upbeat wyvern]

NooooooooooooNoooooo

[upbeat wyvern]

Blue Berry or Brand new feature

[shadow mason]

Probably just some bug fixes, we might see some new features the coming week though!

[dusty shale]

ill check later

[shadow mason]

if you find something, hit me up!

[upbeat wyvern]

If something like that happens, I will print it with Mojang Studio Sun Ak47.

[prisma steeple]

that was a minecraft-related issue, pretty sure the last hotfix fixed that

[limber tiger]

yeah for real

[prisma steeple]

*assuming you're talking about the way they're positioned and rotated

[shadow mason]

we were talking about the discolouration (mainly)

[prisma steeple]

then I'm unsure about that, I haven't witnessed that myself

[dusty shale]

no.

[prisma steeple]

does that happen for the vanilla attachables too? is there any screenshots?

[zenith aspen]

banana tomorrow🥂

[dusty shale]

im talking about they look bright as hell, is this the same as what you are talking about?

or is this another problem

[shadow mason]

Yeep, it's really noticeable once you see it!

[charred geode]

is that confirmed?

[shadow mason]

banana tomorrow

[undone crane]

its just too late today already

[dusty shale]

just making sure we are talking about the same thing

[fringe island]

No, Kayla didn't say anything

[charred geode]

There is a good chance they will add the glare and make it place light sources in dark areas

[torn pond]

i wonder what light source itd place.
new glowy block ?

[charred geode]

They have been testing with glow berries, and the glare is a plant-like mob... perhaps it's a new light emitting plant

[shadow mason]

I dont think the glare places any blocks

it instead shows you where its dark enough for mobs to spawn

[torn pond]

imo we instead need a way to spawnproof an area without light.

[dusty shale]

I could guess that.

[celest sluice]

the copper golem used to be a button pusher but look what we got now

[dusty shale]

the mob sounds useless

[torn pond]

as relying on light as the only way of spawnproofing (other than like, building out of slabs) hurts any builds that might want to be dark.

[dusty shale]

lol

[celest sluice]

I don't think we're getting the glare, but if we are, I doubt it will have the same functionality as we saw it in live

[dusty shale]

yeah

[charred geode]

I doubt it will be this week though because they haven't tease it enough as they usually do

[celest otter]

we'd probably get another month of copper changes and then maybe like 1 more thing and thats probably it for the update, i dont think we'd get anymore mob vote losers this time around

[charred geode]

They have teased weird cave noises in the end of the copper golem video, it wouldn't make sense to delay the glare to the next game drop, but to be fair, they have fully announced game features before or even added them to a snapshot then cancelled them.

[celest otter]

They also hinted at we would get more illagers soon including the illusioner in a somewhat recent video, it’s not like they’re keen on following through with teasers like you said

everything they do should always be taken with a grain of salt because they change their mind every 5 seconds

[charred geode]

yeah, that's why i usually ignore teasers, Mojang is so unreliable

[torn pond]

keep in mind, we haven't started the next drop cycle yet.

[charred geode]

we have?

[torn pond]

we're still on 1.21.100 preview cycle. The autumn drop is 1.21.110

that's why the next drop is experimental

[charred geode]

.100 might not be the fall drop, but we have started receiving fall drop features

[torn pond]

true.

but it means they have a while for the next drop.

they still have to release 1.21.100 and then they have the full 1.21.110 preview cycle.

so, we could reasonably see the glare if that's what they were hinting at, in this drop but in a preview much later.

[rough path]

Yes we have lol.

[charred geode]

it's planned to be released in fall, which is late September/October, that gives them plenty of time to work on the glare beside the copper golem

[torn pond]

yeah i worded that wrong :(
i meant the 1.21.110 preview cycle specifically.

i speak fast and word things dumb :<

[fringe island]

Apparently we won't have a preview today.

[rough path]

Obviously.

[fringe island]

So far nothing, no news or changelog

[charred geode]

All because of the international chocolate day

[celest otter]

am i crazy for thinking copper should be required to mine iron

[quasi wedge]

the game would implode

[celest otter]

yeah

[charred geode]

don't do that

[quasi wedge]

Even if it did take that, you would still only have copper tools for a few minutes

It would just be another wood or stone tool

heck, wood tools you only have for a few seconds

[torn pond]

copper is neat if you dont have a lot of iron i guess.

you can get a lot of copper very quickly. You can get a full iron set decently quickly but you generally shouldn't have much iron to spare early on, so you might still use copper even if you have iron stuff.

[charred geode]

You still have to smelt it

[celest otter]

true

[celest sluice]

Copper and coal are very common

[quasi wedge]

Yeah but I am a copper denier, I frequently do not mine any copper, ever.

[celest sluice]

A couple furnaces later and you'll have a full gear

[carmine kettle]

Given how busted armor protection mechanics are, the upgrade from Copper to Gold (or chainmail) is insignificant. It's so much easier to just make Copper Armor than it is to make any other early game armor

[charred ocean]

is it a preview day? 👀

[celest sluice]

likely not

[celest otter]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-jim-halpert-hmm-doubt-it-doubt-it-doubt-gif-20978255

[charred ocean]

we will see

[charred geode]

Mojang office is closed by now

[charred ocean]

probably would be a Wednesday or something

[torn pond]

gold and chainmail are useless as armor anyway.

[quasi wedge]

It's already an hour past when we normally get preview

[celest otter]

who in their right mind crafts gold armor

[elfin flower]

No, we're already late at release schedule so lmao no.

[torn pond]

you're so rarely in a situation where you have gold or chainmail but no iron.

[quasi wedge]

me when I go to the nether

[torn pond]

you craft 1 piece of gold armor. never a full set.

[celest otter]

ruin portal chests 9/10 times:

[carmine kettle]

And now you will even more rarely be in a situation where you have gold or chainmail but no copper

[quasi wedge]

I craft the full set, I'm trying to show the piglins what I'm made of

[charred geode]

no body, the only times where i have gold armor is from mob drops or ruined portals

[elfin flower]

watch the armor shatters once you touch lava lmao

[celest sluice]

It breaks easy, so a lot of times I have to craft it along the way

[quasi wedge]

why would I make a shiny helmet and not make a matching chestplate, leggings, and boots

[celest otter]

yeah same

[torn pond]

leather armor imo needs to be more worth using. Right now it's a mid game decorative set when its intended purpose is the early game armor set

[celest otter]

fair

[carmine kettle]

They gave leather armor some utility with the powdered snow mechanic, but it's still too niche

[torn pond]

yeah.

[shadow mason]

more mechanics letsss goo

[quasi wedge]

leather armor harder to get then a full iron set 😔

[celest otter]

copper needs something like leather boots

[celest otter]

FR BRO

[shadow mason]

what about oxidation for copper tools/armour?

[torn pond]

electricity-based mobs deal 5% less damage to players.

[charred geode]

it's so different to get enough leather for a full set and it's so not worth it

[celest otter]

i would love that

[celest sluice]

does that have any function or is it just a color swap

[celest otter]

oxidation for copper rods also 😭

[charred geode]

like?

[quasi wedge]

I hope they make it turn you into a lightning rod

[carmine kettle]

Copper's utility lies in how easy it is to get, relative to its protection value. IMO it should have nothing special going for it because of how easy acquiring it is

[torn pond]

charged creepers i guess idk.

[elfin flower]

would be funny if wearing copper armor makes lightning targets you.

[shadow mason]

it could make tools slower, armour more damagable etc... just kind of a reason to maybe use iron more

[shadow mason]

ofc we'll get funtionality, I'm not Mojang

[celest sluice]

or a reason to avoid copper...

[celest otter]

oxidation depending on the durability

[quasi wedge]

I used to be a copper avoider

but with the copper golem I might mine copper now

[charred ocean]

yeah you are right. but sometimes it could be late who knows

[charred ocean]

ik there won't be a preview most probably

[celest sluice]

copper armour is already weaker than iron. Making it weaker over time is not the move

[torn pond]

also chainmail needs a proper use. It exists as a decorative set more than anything, except if you want fun decorative armor, you use armor trims.

[carmine kettle]

Iron is worth its protection value. Diamond is in a similar boat

[charred ocean]

should be weaker than iron but should have durability something more than iron but less than diamond tbh

[charred geode]

yes, next time I want a charged creeper to explode in my face i will switch my protection 4 netherite armor with copper armor 🙂

[celest otter]

we shouldve gotten a iron-diamond tier instead ngl

[elfin flower]

imagine iron somehow turning into rusty

[quasi wedge]

I don't think there needs to be more in between tiers

[torn pond]

like, at least leather and gold both have their uses of "leather's the only set you can get quickly without mining/gold's the only set you can get by mining in the nether"
what's chainmail's use? when would you possibly use it besides finding it in a chest (where they could really just replace it with copper and nothing changes)?

[celest sluice]

It's a fine balance. You can't make copper stronger than iron because copper is already more common, but you can't make it too weak or else you have less incentive to use it at all

[quasi wedge]

The progression is already all over the place

The only thing I can see happening is new materials to make new armor being available in other dimensions like with netherite

End Update when

[celest otter]

agreed, would rather a new above tier instead of in-between tiers, but this mojang and if i had to pick over the 2 it would be iron-diamond over stone-iron

[carmine kettle]

I don't mind the Copper Tools. Those make sense in the progression. Yet armor has always been in a weird place

[celest sluice]

emerald armour 🤑

[charred ocean]

then it would get a whole another set of items and blocks:
Rusted Iron Blocks (4 stages just like copper so 4 blocks ig)
Rusten Iron Ingot? Probably not just maybe
Rusting iron tools and armor? Idk

[celest otter]

real 😭

2 seconds of trading:

[quasi wedge]

unfortunately a higher tier would also be problematic and require Mojang to redo how they calculate damage. Netherite already ran into this problem which is why they added armor toughness.

[carmine kettle]

(For the record, armor toughness existed before netherite)

[torn pond]

I still have no idea what armor toughness actually does.

[quasi wedge]

yeah

[torn pond]

yeah its from 1.9 i think

[celest sluice]

Solution: more toughness

[quasi wedge]

When we still can't add armor toughness to custom armor but can now read it through scripting 😔

[torn pond]

u can look but no touchy :<

[celest otter]

most likely scenario

[celest sluice]

add that stuff to the wearable component

[quasi wedge]

It's been over 3 years

[torn pond]

when they add ender duck armor, should it be above netherite or a sidegrade with some different effect

[celest otter]

fletching table needs an update before another armor set 😭

[torn pond]

what would the fletching table even do

[quasi wedge]

fletch stuff

[torn pond]

they'd need to add new arrow types

like explosive arrows or something idk.

[celest sluice]

What if it was immune to the void?

[quasi wedge]

I'm fine with them not doing anything with it, I'm hijacking the table for my add-on

[celest otter]

we got 2 armor sets before a fletching table update, illusioner being fully added, etc 😭

[torn pond]

The problem with that is like
i think it's a neat idea. It's just also ONLY useful in The End.

[celest sluice]

nuh uh. What about in the elusive void biome in the overworld? Hmmm???

[torn pond]

netherite being fire resistant is mainly good for the nether, but still has it's uses in the overworld, and even arguably the End if you decide to play with lava.

[quasi wedge]

they should really just remove the protection enchantment from the game right

[torn pond]

ender-duck armor would be useful for the End and that's it. I don't see people using it over netherite.

[quasi wedge]

whose with me

[torn pond]

replace with melee protection.

[quasi wedge]

then there would be actual balance between the armor enchantments and a reason to have the other ones

[celest sluice]

you know what? fair

But does Mojang have the courage to yeet one of the most widely used enchants from the game

[torn pond]

it's weird how you have fire protection, blast protection, projectile protection
but instead of melee protection it's just "protection" which affects all of the above and more.

[celest otter]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-dwight-schrute-the-office-no-lets-put-it-this-way-no-gif-6635636136578647904

[torn pond]

alternatively, something they could do if they want to keep protection:
add melee protection anyway. Maybe let players stack 2 "specific protection" enchants, but regular protection can't be stacked with any of them.

[quasi wedge]

they don't, but I do

[torn pond]

so, you have to choose: regular all-around protection, or stronger protection against some things but far weaker against others.

[elfin flower]

hmm....

[celest sluice]

Is it not already like that?

[quasi wedge]

yeah, that's already how it works

[torn pond]

you can't stack 2 protection enchants, so you aren't choosing to single out one or two things, you're choosing to focus on one thing.

[quasi wedge]

It's just that the damage calculations fall off a cliff and the difference of the damage you take from an explosion with protection vs blast protection becomes incredibly negligible

[celest sluice]

I mean not being able to use protection with other prot enchants

[torn pond]

yeah.

that part exists. I'm saying you should be able to stack the others besides protection, up to 2 on one piece of armor.

[celest sluice]

Maybe if regular protection was just repurposed into melee protection

[torn pond]

as right now, they're all mutually exclusive

[celest sluice]

Plus the 2 prots per armour thing you said

[quasi wedge]

then they could add magic protection too!

[torn pond]

does protection protect from magic damage right now?

[celest otter]

bane of arthropods moment

[quasi wedge]

protection protects from everything

[elfin flower]

why do i feel like this is one of those tf2 community rebalance thing.

[celest sluice]

yes

[torn pond]

I mean, Minecraft is in need of some rebalancing.
certain items and enchantments are just useless and things people would rather avoid. That shouldn't be the case.

[celest sluice]

Bane of Arthropods:

[dusty shale]

my favorite enchantment

[torn pond]

yeah that one needs stronger mobs and imo should apply slowness to ALL mobs, not just arthropods.

as the mobs it applies slowness to right now die in one hit anyway

[elfin flower]

my favorite enchantment on cubecraft skyblock

[torn pond]

i find it funny how the way they tried to make bane of arthropods worth using was giving it a slowness effect, which you'll almost never see actually applied because the mobs will die before that can happen.

[celest otter]

replace bane of arthropods with illager bane from mcd and ill be happy

[torn pond]

would it also affect villagers

[celest sluice]

bane of arthropods, but with blue villager creatures

[celest otter]

that would be cool

[torn pond]

Also, anvils shouldn't cost xp for repairs.

[celest otter]

in that case itll also affect witches

[torn pond]

for enchanting yes. For repairing no.

[celest sluice]

It will be perfect for my villager farm

[torn pond]

that way you have a choice, use mending and repair with xp, or use anvils and repair with resources

[elfin flower]

bane of arthropods will definitely be more useful if mojang decides to add more spiders variants. would be funny seeing them crawling on the ceiling.

[celest otter]

any villager related mob would be affected (villagers, illagers, witches, ravangers)

[celest sluice]

wouldn't any spider variant they add end up just being weak anyway?

[celest otter]

wayyyy better of a use than bane of arthropods

[elfin flower]

i find it odd but java's spider is waay more aggressive than bedrock's spider.

[torn pond]

like, the reason anvil repairing is so bad and the reason people rely on mending for everything is because of the xp cost for anvil repairs.
remove that xp cost, maybe make it so mending items can't be repaired with resources, and mending is actually kind of fixed. Except for netherite.

[dusty shale]

minecraft's progression and xp system is boring in general

[torn pond]

but maybe if they made netherite repairing super efficient (1 netherite scrap repairs an item fully) it'd still work, idk.

[celest sluice]

I don't mind the xp cost as long as it doesn't get out of hand like it already does

[elfin flower]

same.

[torn pond]

the problem with the xp cost is it takes away any reason not to use mending over it.

both anvils and mending cost xp

but anvils also cost resources on top of that. And usually, more xp than mending would.

why would you ever repair items in the anvil once you have mending?

[celest sluice]

mending would be preffered either way

[elfin flower]

honestly it just kinda hard to rebalance to game like these.

it existed for many years and there'll always a large crowds who would not want any of those 'rebalance'.

otherwise it probably gonna be one of those 1.9-era days again.

which is also why mojang are extremely careful with update nowadays

[torn pond]

I mean, maybe but it wouldn't be necessary.

as it is, you have no reason not to use mending.

[celest sluice]

As it stands, repeairing the same item eats up more and more XP each time until it's "too expensive". If it wasn't like that, then mending would no longer be "necessary"

[torn pond]

with this change, you might choose not to for some items. It might even make phantoms ever so slightly less "the absolutely worst feature they could have possibly added to the game"

[celest sluice]

an XP cost is fine, as long as there's not a limit

No more "too expensive" 🤮

[torn pond]

i think even if it didn't eat up more and more xp, if it costs too much, you're not going to use it over mending.

[celest sluice]

if it costs too much
Yes, so make it not cost as much

[torn pond]

where should the limit be? 1 level? 5?

at 10 you're really pushing it and i'd rather get mending.

and 1-5 is like, completely free while you have low xp and slightly inconvenient when you have a lot.

[elfin flower]

i wanna see spider crawling around the wall someday in minecraft.

[charred ocean]

first we gotta get spawn rules in parity lmao

[tribal torrent]

preview day not today

[fringe island]

Tomorrow

[tribal torrent]

confirmed?

[fringe island]

No, It's speculation because normally when it's not released on Tuesday it's released on Wednesday.

[tribal torrent]

[charred ocean]

just don't expect much guys. it's vacation time for them

so don't keep much hopes up for an update

[torn pond]

Is it vacation for the entire bedrock team, or like, some devs are on vacation now and others in a month or something

[charred ocean]

it will mostly be for everyone

[elfin flower]

likely entire bedrock team. though honestly i'd expect a small update after this tbh.

[manic tinsel]

It's Quiet Week this week so maybe no preview until next week?

[rough path]

Where did you hear that?

[manic tinsel]

Well I don't know when the next preview is lol that was me guessing based on the fact that this tends to be the time Mojang goes on a break.

[rough path]

I meant the quiet week part.

[languid tinsel]

His source is trust me bro

[manic tinsel]

Yeah exactly

[languid tinsel]

I also vouch

[celest sluice]

I, too, vouch

[random karma]

Could genuinely get behind this if it replaced the diamond gear in villager trade tables.

unironically

[fluid wadi]

Who hurt you? /s

[random karma]

I just don't like the idea of villagers selling diamond stuff

[fluid wadi]

I can understand that. I tend to die relatively frequently, so being able to set up some villagers makes it easier to get back to where you were

[little summit]

damn i was searching this discord to see if anyone else has the problem and bingo

[austere mirage]

Preview day ?

[sleek grail]

I'm guessing no

[shadow mason]

hopefully

[elfin flower]

guessing that they're still on vacation, might be a no for me.

[charred ocean]

a definite no from me as well

[zenith aspen]

ig no banana

[charred geode]

Where is my banana?

[zenith aspen]

I'm eating

[celest otter]

I want a banana

[torn pond]

this is bananas.

[charred geode]

Hypokalemia intensifies

[manic tinsel]

[celest otter]

Give me my oxidation for copper rods

[inner ivy]

emissive block textures🙏

[celest otter]

That also works

[rough path]

That already exists.

[muted widget]

with VV*

[rough path]

Which is the default graphics mode so...

[muted widget]

and not everyone has VV support

and maybe someone doesn’t want to play with VV

[rough path]

A decent majority does.

[rough path]

You cant factor in everyones preferences.

Its like saying, "How do I do X" "Oh you cant do X because someone might be playing with FOV 30 and not using VV"

[muted widget]

i didn’t say everyone

[dawn fable]

given that a lot of the videos I remember seeing from mobile use simple graphics, it is definitely worth considering those who aren't using VV

[zenith aspen]

[celest sluice]

Can we just say that Vlad was talking about stuff like the eyeblossom which glows without VV?

[inner ivy]

wanted it without vv just like open eyeblossoms

[tribal torrent]

preview day today?

[limber tiger]

Nope

Not this week

[sleek grail]

I mean, we don't know for sure, but yeah

[tribal torrent]

did they say no

or are you guys speculating again

[rough path]

Shoutout Poggy! We can override vanilla jigsaws outside of trial/trail

[celest sluice]

Living up to her name

[quasi wedge]

Villages? 🤨

[prisma niche]

It's true! The identifier I used for this template pool: "identifier": "minecraft:village/plains/houses"

[dusty shale]

bruh

[shadow mason]

Weren't we able to it since quite a while already?

[prisma niche]

cough

[dusty shale]

right

[quasi wedge]

So you're breaking the rules

😲

[prisma niche]

:3

[quasi wedge]

hide this information FAST

[shadow mason]

Oh well, Mojang gas lighting themselves in their own docs lol

[prisma niche]

Oh I think King told me about this a while ago

[quasi wedge]

Is that stuff exposed in program files? Assuming that the farming plot structures in villages are also in there?

[prisma niche]

Give me a sec!

[shadow mason]

it is

[prisma niche]

I took the template pools from Java

[willow harness]

oooo

[foggy isle]

no preview?

[willow harness]

no preview 😔

[foggy isle]

😔

[zenith aspen]

🍎

[rough path]

I do wish there was an easy way to generate a jigsaw structure once in a world.

[prisma niche]

I just want to place features with jigsaws 😔

[stoic orchid]

Hi folks - I'm back from vacation. Did I miss anything?

[quasi wedge]

The preview 🥺

[rough path]

WE WON!

COPPER GOLEM SUPREMACY!

[heady sable]

I think you lost the Preview at your vacation 😅

[stoic orchid]

#teamcoppergolem

I got to see the Copper Golem when I was in Stockholm last. I've been SO excited. Happy the lil' guy is out in the open.

[stoic orchid]

This week is a vacation week for a lot of folks.

[rough path]

🥀 Vacations should be 1 month.

[quasi wedge]

Civilization as we know it would collapse

[heady sable]

Yeah I expected, hence my comment 🤭

[rough path]

[pure gull]

Bachelor's diploma!! 🎓🔥

[torn pond]

wait did you place a village

[rough path]

No, Poggy placed her own structure. However, the point is we can target the vanilla target pool.

[torn pond]

aw :<

[rough path]

Why aw?

[torn pond]

i want /place for villages and other structures

[prisma niche]

You can technically do that but just making your own jigsaw structure that places the starting pool for the structure you want to place. I’ll mess with this idea later

[torn pond]

o, interesting

[tribal torrent]

preview week next week?

[stoic orchid]

That's the plan!

[fringe island]

Let's see, I'm glad you guys were able to take some time off, it's good to rest so you can do things for us with a clear mind.

[manic tinsel]

Dw I’m making sure not all of them are having a good rest

[random karma]

Y'all owe us two previews next week

or like a really big one

[dawn fable]

or air tag

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

[charred ocean]

kayla do be vibing with the new colour gradients

It's not red anymore lmao

it feels so weird seeing gradient colours on roles because i got used to regular fixed colours we got damn

also yea #teamcoppergolem

[limber ledge]

Nice! We know that you can't spoiler anything but I guess you also see more still unannounced future features

[limber ledge]

Welcome back. I hope 2 weeks of break was great for you

[devout barn]

Bug report time >:) jk

I wonder if this has been possible since the data driven jigsaw structures experiment was introduced in 1.21.50

[prisma niche]

Who knows

I think it existed ever since

[devout barn]

I was thinking maybe this could be a sign of seeing other structures upgraded to the current jigsaw system?

[rough path]

With the recent previews renaming the folder from jigsaw_structures to just structures...I have hopes.

[prisma niche]

Me too

[cloud moon]

hopefully strongholds

or fortresses

[rough path]

Day something of asking Mojang for molang support in deferred rendering.

Oh and better error message for lighting thanks.

[tropic chasm]

Day something + one

[fossil walrus]

I’ve edited trial chambers

[prisma niche]

They lied!

[fossil walrus]

I actually have it’s template pools in my addon

[fossil walrus]

Strongholds would be peak, I want to revamp them

[fossil walrus]

/place jigsaw and /place structure

[rough path]

I said easy way. /place doesnt take terrain adaptation into account nor does it take suitable locations or biome into account.

[fluid wadi]

Did you go somewhere relaxing?

[fossil walrus]

Well there really isn’t any other way to do it

That’s kinda what /place is meant to do

[rough path]

Hence...why I said, "I wish there was an easy way"

[edgy abyss]

Days++

[plucky glade]

hi there, do someone know if there is any reason why none of the sponsored servers are using VV?

[dusky wasp]

they haven’t updated their server softwares to support it, either they lazy or they think its too buggy

There are definetly still some issues with vv

[elfin flower]

VV is not feature-completed for those servers quite yet, as there's certain missing stuff that it does not work with VV but work on fast (simple) and fancy.

this also carries with probably all marketplace contents as well.

Although mineville does support VV if i remember correctly.

or a featured server with earthsmp map for whatever reason.

[torn pond]

it is a shame that marketplace content can't use VV, even if it was off by default with it, there were some things that worked well with VV.

there's a free map that's still version locked to 1.14 and it looked great with VV in 1.21.80

but then in 1.21.90 they made it so you can't use VV even on maps without resource packs. (or on old version locked worlds)

[elfin flower]

yeah, it's odd for old maps and stuff. probably done by implementing restrictions by lazy way.

[torn pond]

it is a shame as it means the old world type can't use VV anymore.

so, 2 world gen types just don't work with VV (pre-1.18 and Old). the 2 which, ironically, would work better with it due to having smaller caves which don't go out of your render distance.

[elfin flower]

restrictions may get removed once VV is actually finished for all people.

[torn pond]

hopefully

[elfin flower]

for now im still upset that my material stuff does not work on VV.

[rough path]

some things
Is the keyword that Kayla said.

[torn pond]

i like when Minecraft lets you enable settings which aren't as good but still are available.

[rough path]

#1384561782617669844 message

[torn pond]

still upset they removed the 10fps option :<

now the minimum i can set the game to on xbox is 30

[elfin flower]

well, you can still do that on preview. but not stable if i recall.

also about the fps, yeah kinda disappointing but probably in a good way of not making people switch to like 5 fps or something

i regret doing that

[torn pond]

i still think that it'd be good if we could enable it, just have it off by default with that marketplace content.

sure, it'd look worse in some cases.
some maps also look worse if you have minimum render distance, turn off smooth lighting, clouds, etc. yet the game never prevents that.

[rough path]

And having the risk of people trying it with VV complain it's broken thus having bad reviews on both VV and the marketplace content?

[rough path]

sure, it'd look worse in some cases.
Actions and Stuff for example loses all their emissiveness. That is terrible.

[dawn fable]

none of those make things look broken though

[zealous salmon]

We were told to disable it due to potential issues with our content, which is correct. There's still some issues that need to be ironed out before most servers feel comfortable enabling it

I'm not sure why Mineville enable it, I guess they just wanted to be different

[torn pond]

that's why i'd say leave it off by default. Maybe even have a warning when enabling VV "this world includes content not built with Vibrant Visuals in mind, some things may not work properly"

[zealous salmon]

Or they just didn't know how to disable it when they switched to Geyser after being bought

[torn pond]

why should maps which actually look great with VV, but haven't been updated, be stuck without VV forever?

[rough path]

I cannot disclose the exact scenario, but there was an instance of a particle looking super bright and broken in VV but perfectly fine in Fancy mode. Imagine if all of a sudden everything looked like that.

[rough path]

Who said forever?

[torn pond]

I mean, if the issue is that these packs are made without VV in mind, i'd assume then they'd need to specifically enable VV for those packs once it's allowed on the marketplace.

rather than Mojang just giving them some time and then blanket enabling it on everything

unless they do that idk.

that would work well enough imo. There's some great content there that's still version locked to 1.14, 1.17, 1.19, etc.

but which worked great with VV (and deferred packs in general before VV was a thing) in previews.

i just hope it isn't a "packs won't have VV enabled unless the creators specify that it should be enabled". If it's "packs/maps will have VV enabled, but we're giving them time to adjust for it" then that's good.

[rough path]

packs/maps will have VV enabled, but we're giving them time to adjust for it
#1384561782617669844 message

[torn pond]

fair enough. That does sound like this, i just hope it will also apply to old game version locked worlds.

as right now, it's off for them all.

[dawn fable]

If they enable it for all base game versions I wonder if they'll make mers textures for old textures

[rough path]

I doubt it.

[torn pond]

no baseGameVersion uses the pre-1.14 textures so it won't be a major issue

they do use the old textures for bats, ores, and zombie pigmen

but version locking started with village and pillage

[dawn fable]

that's what i was talking about

[torn pond]

and i think those few textures aren't a thing they'll bother with,

but it would be nice if they did make them, as they could also then apply them to the Classic Texture Pack

(ideally along with fixes for creepers and husks. and java parity for crying obsidian, spawn eggs and clouds)

[rough path]

What parity? And what fixes?

[dawn fable]

creepers looking like charged creepers is one I've heard of
crying obsidian/spawn eggs/clouds don't have their old textures included in the pack

[sonic musk]

damn settings header in resource pack got deprecated

[rough path]

Wdym?

[sonic musk]

I used to be able to put labels and text in this ui

now it's gone
it was bugged a few previews ago
i had to use all the text in one lable and use /n for new lines

[rough path]

Use manifest v3.

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[torn pond]

fixes:

• creepers in classic texture pack all appear as charged creepers
• husks in classic texture pack have white cube as their head

parity:

• crying obsidian in Java Programmer Art uses the old, unused texture. in Bedrock it uses the nether update texture.
• spawn eggs in Java Programmer Art use the old texture up to the most recent ones, while Bedrock ones only go up to 1.14
• clouds on Java Programmer Art use the old cloud texture, Bedrock classic texture pack doesn't affect the clouds

i think there may be a few other parity issues like new potions not using the old texture on bedrock when they do on java?

also i think the smithing table has a weird texture with classic texture pack. That one may be intended, not sure

[sonic musk]

nope it doesn't work

[rough path]

Preview or stable?

[sonic musk]

preview
the game does recognize the manfiest V3
the label object just doesn't work

[rough path]

Is it just the label object or all of setrtings?

[sonic musk]

i did add this but it doesn't show up

[rough path]

Removing the label?

[sonic musk]

removed it and restarted the game
it doesn't show up

[rough path]

🥀

[dawn fable]

have i just seen someone willingly using that version format 🤢

[sonic musk]

pls don't give up on me 💀

[rough path]

I did.

[sonic musk]

hear me out
i like the look of it

this really satisfies me

oh wait it's bc of mine is resources not behavior pack

[prisma niche]

Wait we can already use that?

[rough path]

Like 2.0.0-alpha and 3.0.0-alpha, it has no difference or effect.

[prisma niche]

Not sure how to feel about this

[rough path]

Did that work?

I wonder if its because of the subpacks.

[rough path]

I quite like it.

[dawn fable]

I prefer it to the array

i'll still be using strings though

[sonic musk]

removed the subpacks and

[prisma niche]

Is slider the only thing you can use for manifest v3? If so then that kinda stinks

[rough path]

I've only ever tested the slider.

Feel free to mess around.

[prisma niche]

Will do!

[rough path]

Ah so it probably is a BP only thing then? Let me test it out.

[sonic musk]

it is a BP thing only

[prisma niche]

PFF that sucks

[sonic musk]

no it's not

I was wrong

you can onnly acces that settings from world settings

resource pack

[dawn fable]

oh authors is required now?

[torn pond]

comparison between Bedrock and Java classic textures to show the issues i'm referring to.

potions are more of a subtle difference, but the bottle texture did change in 1.14, java 1.21 potions use the old design in programmer art

[rough path]

Yep just tested. You can only access the settings in the world screen.

[prisma niche]

Stinky

[sonic musk]

Ig that makes some what sense

may format v4 save us

[rough path]

😭 We are not waiting another 5 years.

[prisma niche]

Sean, could you link me the schema for v3?

[dawn fable]

then we can have subpacks settings and options

[rough path]

Check the thread that I posted the example pack in?

[prisma niche]

Will do!

[young condor]

I'm very hyped to use the settings but pls let us use them in world generation 🙏

[prisma niche]

I don't see it 😔

Found it!!

@rough path

[rich vault]

So... We can technically use this to add HCF toggle back to world creation screen

[eternal shoal]

HCF?

[sleek grail]

It was definitely the right move

[rich vault]

Holiday Creator Features, it's one of those experimental toggles that was too powerful too difficult for devs to support, so they removed it

It's sort of a meme in this discord

[nimble onyx]

?

[sleek grail]

Next week

[zenith aspen]

[torn pond]

I wonder why they made creaking eyes emissive at all times with VV on.

with VV off, they're only emissive if the creaking can see you

which is most of the time in survival but it means they aren't emissive in creative (or survival if they can't see you)

[limber tiger]

Bedrock team at his finest

[plush wedge]

Charged creeper: https://mojira.dev/MCPE-217361
Husk head: https://mojira.dev/MCPE-221572
Spawn eggs: https://mojira.dev/MCPE-194452
Smithing table: https://mojira.dev/MCPE-44163 (WAI, likely wrong)
Crying obsidian: https://mojira.dev/MCPE-87419
Potions: https://mojira.dev/MCPE-187836

[half depot]

Wait we can have buttons now

That's fire

And multiple sliders

:0

[prisma niche]

😔 they're useless

[half depot]

That was a giant pain with my old VV pack

Oh

[charred ocean]

://

[half depot]

My old VV pack had many custom options and I wanted to add different sliders for different things. One would enable/disable glowing ores. The other for my different color grading preset

But having one slider really limits 😔

[charred ocean]

so they just only added the UI part but not functioning?

[rough path]

It's nothing new.

[charred ocean]

like being able to add toggles and stuff

[rough path]

Manifest V3 is just formally documenting them now. However, one can infer that with them documenting it they're planning updates to it.

[charred ocean]

oh alr

[torn pond]

i wonder if they'll ever fix these

also clouds probably need to be added. That's a new one since clouds changed in 1.21.90, so it wasn't an issue before.

(also for whatever reason bats use the new texture when all other mobs use the old textures)

[fluid wadi]

I can’t figure out a way to use lang files for these. Does anyone know how?

[plush wedge]

Bat: https://mojira.dev/MCPE-190275
I don't see one for clouds, maybe you can report it

Java has these two pesky ones:
https://mojira.dev/MC-141075
https://mojira.dev/MC-140954

[nimble onyx]

😔

[hoary forge]

v2 allowed for RawText but that was removed in v3 for some reason.

Though I doubt you'd ever be able to use the pack's lang files without it being loaded

[fluid wadi]

I can use the lang files in the name and description of the manifest, so it feels weird that it doesn’t work elsewhere in the file

[cloud moon]

you can

there's this program that let's you

[fringe island]

Did friend worlds always appear on the play screen?

[foggy isle]

yes, when he/she is playing

[quasi wedge]

wait THATS where they are supposed to appear?

That is such a terrible way of displaying friend worlds

No wonder none of my friends could figure out how to join our friends world

[dusty shale]

there used to be a friends tab no

[fringe island]

I honestly thought it only appeared in the friends tab, now in the play tab it's the first time I've seen it, so I was surprised

[fringe island]

In the json ui yes, but it was transferred to the side tab, a "play" button still appears next to your friend's name in the friends tab, but the world appearing next to your worlds is new to me

[fringe island]

I thought it only appeared in the little friends tab

[tribal walrus]

wonderful

[prisma niche]

Guy from Fortnite

[torn pond]

I really don't get why they changed that to this.

a proper "friends" tab is far more useful than a full "realms" tab. And like, if you really want both, why not have 4 tabs instead of 3 tabs and then 1 weird button off to the side

or even merge friends and realms into one into a general multiplayer tab idk.

[elfin flower]

They not only have player world via just world menu, but also friend menu aswell if i recall.

though still kinda useless for me anyways despite I can't even join anyone worlds even with my alt.

[celest sluice]

This is 1.21.93 right?

[fringe island]

Yea

[celest sluice]

Awesome. I was able to confirm myself

[dusky wasp]

they added back the old feature

finally

[celest sluice]

Up next: Search bar

[dusky wasp]

this is what it says for a realm

idk why it even shows realms

[willow harness]

Nice

[celest sluice]

Speaking of which, has anyone else seen Aternos LAN servers pop up every now and then?

[dusky wasp]

that has been a bug for forever now

[zealous salmon]

Yeah friends (and locally hosted servers) have always shown on the worlds menu for me. It's always second to the most recent world though which is annoying. Really easy to miss

*Since the redesign

[celest sluice]

I think it's good that the most recently played world takes precedence over friends and LAN

[dawn fable]

the layout shifting on the servers tab is really annoying too

[zealous salmon]

I disagree with LAN but partially agree with friends. But they shouldn't all be in the same grid anyways

[dusky wasp]

yeah

[zealous salmon]

Not sure what was wrong with the Friends tab that we used to have

[dusky wasp]

they used to be seperated

[zealous salmon]

Maybe they just wanted less empty space or something, which is eh. Realms tab is just full of upselling bloat

[dusky wasp]

lmao

it looks different if you have a realm added tho

[zealous salmon]

They did? Where abouts is that

[dawn fable]

it's gone for me

[celest sluice]

How do we tell him

[zealous salmon]

Oh was that the one that used to be next to the grid button

[celest sluice]

yup

[languid tinsel]

I SAID NOTHING

Ssh

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[zealous salmon]

For some reason button icons just don't work for me lol so I always just see white squares. Unsure if that's related to MCLauncher or not

[rough path]

It's related to 3rd party launchers iirc.

[zealous salmon]

Yeah I assumed as much. Probably not extracting certain assests correctly or something

[dawn fable]

it's caused by them extracting file names incorrectly i think

if they have a % in them

[celest sluice]

for me it recently got fixed

[zealous salmon]

Oh really, what version?

[celest sluice]

1.21.93 (Bedrock launcher)

[zealous salmon]

This is the latest 1.21.93 release I'm using

[languid tinsel]

Why did they remove it

In office, bunch of lan worlds visible

[fringe island]

So is this really something new?

[celest sluice]

ye

[hoary forge]

I swear I've had that since 1.21.92

[celest sluice]

maybe it was rolling out?

[hoary forge]

Possibly?

[zealous salmon]

They did just roll out the new disconnect menu to everyone so it's possible

[rough path]

Society if slow rollouts didn't exist.

[charred ocean]

lmao

[sterile flame]

When next update?

[charred ocean]

4 days later

[sterile flame]

You mean 4 days from today?

[hoary forge]

4 days in the future

[charred ocean]

you mean we are getting an update in the future? :0

we are going to time travel to the future in just 4 days

[ocean basin]

is custom commands available in stable?
The MS reference page is confusing... it shows the classes in stable but takes you to experimental when clicked

hoping the chatSend event makes it out of experimental in my lifetime

[pure gull]

New User Interface for error messages, it seems so updated though.

[limber ledge]

Wait, it says where I am too?

I like this QoL feature

[dawn fable]

it's just your xbox presence

[limber ledge]

This is good lol

[limber ledge]

No

It basically says what I'm doing in the game

I am online in the game, okay. But where? In the menus? In the world? In the server?

It basically shows that.

[limber ledge]

Look

[dawn fable]

I don't understand how that is any different

[limber ledge]

It basically tells where you are and what you are doing in the game to your friends.

Previously this feature was not available in-game.

[dawn fable]

It seemed like you were disagreeing with it being your xbox presence

[limber ledge]

No I just wanted to say this is a new in-game feature

[charred geode]

My laptop doesn't support vibrant visuals, this makes me feel insecure about my laptop

[limber ledge]

Whats your GPU

[charred geode]

i don't have a graphic card

[limber ledge]

sad

Btw it seems a little bit buggy?

[rough path]

All laptops have a GPU.

[limber ledge]

I think he wanted to say he just has igpu

[rough path]

Which is still a GPU lol. There's a difference between asking whats your gpu and whats your external graphics card.

[limber ledge]

he definetely dont owns an external graphics card

[rough path]

As evident by laptop yes I know.

[shadow mason]

There are laptops with dedicated GPUs tbf...

[foggy grail]

So my entire addon just broke. Ive just been messing with scripts. And everything is broken

[fringe island]

They are experimental

[half depot]

It very likely does. There's just a core driver issue with older Intel chips which has Minecraft force enable dx11 mode instead of dx12

[foggy isle]

☝️

[charred geode]

oh really? how do i enable it?

I have intelCOREi5 8th Gen

[charred geode]

i said a graphic card, I bought one without a graphic card

[sonic musk]

what's the cpu code exactly

[rough path]

Exvept they asked gpu not graphics card so the response doesnt make sense.

[half depot]

You could try the better render dragon tool

It forces DX12 and overrides the Intel issue

[charred geode]

I just read the label, i don't know those technical stuff
i5-8350U, I think

[charred geode]

I see the issue, it says in the wiki that VVs require intel graphics driver that's higher than 31.0.101 and i have 22.05.19

[hazy mantle]

VV is sadly broken on my 5070ti laptop gpu

and under water it draws lines

[idle summit]

water mesh

[foggy isle]

31.0.101.3430 is minimum required for dx12

the driver is supported only gpu that in intel gen 11th or above

any gpu

uhd graphic also

[ocean basin]

affects all 50 series cards... workaround for me was to install the earliest driver for your card 🙂

[rough path]

I see...I was just on the hunt for a 50 series.

[tropic chasm]

They are rare to find in the wilderness

[prisma niche]

I saw one 2 days ago, Looked cool but didn't buy it. Bought a keyboard instead :3

[rough path]

This implies the keyboard is as expensive the 50 series.

[stoic junco]

How much can a keyboard cost, 10 bucks?

[prisma niche]

Oh I also took a 4060 over a 50 series card. Same shop too btw

😔 though the vram on the 4060

[sterile flame]

🤣 probably free if you find one that someone has thrown out with 17 years of smoking and a few spilled drinks on it

[stoic junco]

my gpu maxed out 100% when downloading a video, anyone got a better gpu?

[quasi wedge]

why would you ever get a 60 when a 70 exists

[tropic chasm]

same reason you would get a 70 instead of an 80 super

[sonic musk]

Try better render dragon

[cerulean quarry]

What that means?

downloading video shouldn't use GPU at all

[obsidian lark]

I'm starting to wish we could make custom stairs.

[charred geode]

wouldn't my graphics driver be an issue?

[sonic musk]

i don't know
there was a bug in deferred in the old days
but if you used better renderdragon and launched minecraft with it
it would forever launch minecraft in dx 12

if you have preview launch preview.bat file from downloaded zip
see the debug text
if the game launched in dx12

[charred geode]

i will try that, i highly doubt my laptop can handle it though.
I had a dream last night that Minecraft launched with VVs but it was super blurry and low resolution
I don't want VVs this badly, i just want to test my addons in it to make sure they are compatible.

[heady sable]

Maybe it is just your dream and not the reality 🤭

[sonic musk]

💀 "I don't want VVs this badly," "I had a a dream"
BROTHERRRR

[charred geode]

It's my common sense trying to tell me to drop it

[sonic musk]

lol

[charred geode]

I know, that's why i followed it by "I don't want it this badly" XD

[sonic musk]

i think the issue has smth to with the cache being 128mb

[gusty fulcrum]

Bruh when will

remove_in_peaceful: {}

Work?

[sonic musk]

try it and let me knwo if it works

[elfin flower]

If your internal GPU supports DX12, it shouldn't be any problem.

The reason why mojang somehow set the minimum intel's driver version due to performance in DX12 reasons, though i see absolutely no differences between DX11 or DX12 in bedrock.

I don't know if UHD 620 has the driver version above the minimum or not, you'll have to see it yourself.

for whatever reason, UHD 620 is just a rebranded version of HD 620 which is what i actually have and i can say it's pretty playable with low preset and 70% resolution (+ somehow water reflection is also on by default aswell)

[charred geode]

chrome is refusing to download it, and even then file explorer refused to extract the files thinking it's a virus

https://github.com/ddf8196/BetterRenderDragon

that's what you are referring to right?