General Discussion

[fringe island]

for some unknown reason at least in Portuguese many blocks are without translation, that is, in English

[torn pond]

point lights and block light, just block light, and just point lights (tinted glass to remove block light)

[eternal shoal]

pretty sure you can remove block light in game files

[torn pond]

maybe. but idk how to do that :<

would be nice if there was an option to turn it off and just have the point lights (except for blocks which don't have point lights i guess?), as imo that's by far the best looking of the 3.

i am worried they won't add it, or might even remove this from vanilla VV because of what they said in the Java VV server. Hopefully it does at least stay as an option, even if it's not on by default.

[eternal shoal]

Java VV server?

can you give me a link?

[toxic horizon]

Looks pretty cool. I hope the 2nd image is just a glitch and that coloured lights won't emit white lights

[torn pond]

@eternal shoal

you can't speak there unless you're a shader dev

but you can read things. And there's the faq

Q: Colored light?
A: No. This would affect gameplay, and the plan is for Vibrant Visuals to not affect or minimally affect gameplay.

which is 1- very confusing (how do colored lights affect gameplay beyond what VV already does?) and 2- unfortunate if this means we won't have colored point lights in vanilla VV once it actually releases.

[simple steppe]

the api it self should support it in my opinion, just make the default one not include it.

in any case they can just mod the game and do what they want

[torn pond]

i still think they should be included by default tbh, even if turned off unless enabled manually. At least on bedrock, since on consoles you don't have that option of just downloading a pack to re-enable it :<

that is a java specific VV server, but i feel like they'll want visual parity between the 2, so if Java doesn't get coloured lighting, what does that mean for bedrock?

[simple steppe]

doesn't it already have it?

[torn pond]

right now it does, but it's only in previews

and requires 2 experimental toggles to use instead of just the regular VV one

building with point lights is very fun

[simple steppe]

yeah
even so, it still need a bit of work from what i can see
not sure if what they said in the java server indicate that they might not work on it anymore

[prisma niche]

Point lights need more work because they don't run so good.

[lethal idol]

what bedrock needs now is colored flood lights, this helps us give light sources colors without the need for point light

[torn pond]

point lights have the benefit of these shadows

i agree we need both but like, some things probably will always require point lights to look good.

[torn pond]

this is how this area looks without point light shadows (which is probably close to what it'd look like with colored flood lights? not exactly but somewhat close maybe)

[lethal idol]

Depending on the implementation but the default lighting is a modified version of vanilla lighting so there is a downside of that. But we will have to see how they do it if it ever comes

[eternal shoal]

Not really because with flood fill you have vanilla lightning but colorful

And no light leaks

[torn pond]

no VV/VV with no point light

oh wait my brightness for VV is lower

[half depot]

unfortunately according to the mojang devs in the java server, point lights/colored lighting will not be present in vanilla vv (at least for java and i assume they want parity). their reasoning is that it can disrupt basic gameplay norms. This feature wont be removed from resource packs but does suck the vanilla version wont have the option for it

[torn pond]

yeah, i really don't understand their reasoning, as it doesn't affect gameplay any more than everything else in VV. :<
it'd be a shame to not have this in vanilla. It looks far better, and makes it all flow together well. Without it, all the other light sources except the global ones have no shadows.

[half depot]

full blocks also dont support shadows (there is a reason for this tho)

full blocks with point lights dont support shadows because of how point lights inherently work. the light is placed inside the center of the block, and without some major workarounds, it will just cast a shadow inside of itself

[torn pond]

i mainly like to play on console, so if they remove this from vanilla VV, i just won't have access to point lights :<

[half depot]

well... external packs will still have this and of course eventually we will get mp packs

no idea when tho

[torn pond]

hm. That is unfortunate, as froglights with point lights would be nice.

[half depot]

well you can add point lights to full blocks. they just dont accept shadows

[torn pond]

sadly, external isn't really convenient on console, and marketplace is terrible because texture packs there are required to change every base game texture (and i'd want one that does just go for the regular VV style but with coloured lights, i like almost everything about VV so far as it is)

[half depot]

its unlikely theyd make people replace textures for this

for all we know, people could just pack some configs together and use the default pbr

[torn pond]

maybe. Still, it'd be harder to find one that's just "vanilla with coloured point lights". And then there's the risk of it having to keep getting updates (and updates always being delayed compared to game updates), while if it's just in vanilla, then it'll always get updated.

[torn pond]

o

wait so like, does it only work with point light shadows off?

[half depot]

no they work just like point lights do

[torn pond]

o

fun

[lethal idol]

speaking of which i just noticed that VV also has support for education edition stuff

[torn pond]

yeah

[half depot]

the smaller ones can cast shadows, but full blocks cannot

[lethal idol]

if ia am not wrong that what you used in the screenshots

[torn pond]

yeah, i used the education edition torches

very useful blocks.

[lethal idol]

will love to see them find a way to fix this.

[half depot]

there really isnt a way to fix it

[torn pond]

actually, since add-ons no longer disable achievements, they probably should also make it so education toggle doesn't disable them

[lethal idol]

is there any other feature that they could put instead of point light to get this effect of it but with out the issues or something along that lines

[torn pond]

would it not be possible for them to make it so these blocks themselves don't cast shadows, but other point light shadows still work with them?

[half depot]

path tracing it :)

[torn pond]

like how a point light shining through glass doesn't cast any shadow

[half depot]

this is because transparent objects dont support shadows

[lethal idol]

they havent talked about this much have they

[half depot]

if you make it so you can cast point light shadows from full blocks, full block objects will no longer be able to cast sun shadows

[torn pond]

would making these blocks transparent not work then?

[half depot]

they would lose sun shadows

and it would likely get weird if they implement transparent shadowmaps

[lethal idol]

what if (this might not be practical and very laggy) but having the point light actuatly be on the faces of full blocks instead

[torn pond]

i think having no sun shadows for light source blocks is better in this case.

[half depot]

lag

[lethal idol]

yea thought so

[torn pond]

but i guess, having point lights without shadows could also be useful.

[tribal torrent]

i want my fullblock pointlight shadows

[lethal idol]

well you can disable it in setting so yea

[tribal torrent]

[torn pond]

i mean like, having an option to build with shadows or without them depending on what specifically you're making

maybe you want a room that is just green and doesn't have shadows

then you use the froglight

i could see building ideas either way really.

just need point lights to actually be part of VV normally :<
i really don't get the reasoning of "it changes gameplay too much".

[lethal idol]

then that will vary across packs, some pack will have this for some blocks while other will have it for others and i will be a bit of problem for users at the end

[half depot]

the reasoning is perfectly fair. Light level is very important to gameplay. adding in a light source (or color) that doesnt distinctly represent the vanilla light level, issues occur, but ig the same argument can be made for shadows and zombies burning

but theres no reason it cant be an option

[torn pond]

i mean, i guess? but yeah, shadows also affect gameplay. I feel like with VV, you kind of have to just accept that some gameplay clarity is lost in exchange for good visuals.

[torn pond]

yeah. Off by default like it is now, but keep it like it is now (and add more things to it, like those point light, shadowless froglights).

i like playing around with fun lights :3

[eternal shoal]

Iirc someone said they could just make block with point ligh not have shadow and it would work fine

[half depot]

Yes I mention that later

[lethal idol]

yea, having point light shadows off instead of point light and its shadows is a better solution.

[half depot]

I mean I wouldn't mind sun shadows not working on full blocks in favor of having shadows

[torn pond]

Out of everyone, your name does not fit someone approving the idea of turning shadows off

[half depot]

But then there's issues with point lights off

[lethal idol]

you mean the blocks will not cast shadow or shadows will not appear on the block (like shadows of other blocks)

[half depot]

Blocks with point lights won't cast shadows from the sun

[lethal idol]

well if they have their own light then it will make senes but it will make the block look out of place

[half depot]

But this is an easy fix. Literally
If(pointlights == disabled)
{
canCastSunShadow = true
}

Even better make it a runtime #if

(Idk the internal code but yea)

[lethal idol]

how will that work then

[half depot]

Considering everything reloads at the same time it may require a small reload of shaders if it's done that way

Regular if can do it in real time but is less performant

[torn pond]

i really like how point lights (with tinted glass) let you really direct where the light goes

[devout barn]

Anyone know if the following will be Preview only for now or will they be coming in retail 1.21.80?

• Vibrant Visuals experiment
• Flat world presets

[lethal idol]

They will come to full release but vibrant visuals we don’t know when and I think super flat might come with 1.21.80

But they will be de experimentalised and also will be out of preview eventually

[devout barn]

Yeah I know they will come to full release eventually. Just wondering how the 1.21.80 release in particular will look like, whether it will be the same as preview (w/ VV in experimental and flat world presets not in experimental) or if some things will be kept in preview only, like pausing was for 1.21.60

[toxic horizon]

Ye, that's pretty good

[elfin flower]

It probably just some advantage changes aswell, there'll probably be more.

though, again. "render dragon" experimental toggle will likely remain on stable after VV is out

they're not canning something they work on for weeks.

hence, deferred renderer.

you can always toggle them on for more graphical stuff if you want to, but that'll require a experimental toggle rather than switching on video settings.

[marble karma]

These vibrant visuals hit like crack straight from the CIA

[tepid trout]

What i actually like about this is that the tints is pixelated not those smooth lines...

[torn pond]

trying out flood fill lights resource pack on java, it does actually look pretty nice, too, and yeah it is quite a bit different visually.

[torn pond]

Main worry i have is if they remove point lights, or don't support them with future updates for vanilla VV, for java parity, so you'll need external packs for them.

[elfin flower]

They probably won't remove point lighting on bedrock since that may be the way of them paying people back for removing shaders support.

Though for java, the resource pack shaders itself might be already powerful enough.

perhaps if mojang don't support point light on java maybe people will via just resource pack.

[rich vault]

You can also try it out on bedrock, if you downgrade and install a custom shader
#1182095383015456829 message
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=36Dj-GfFjLc

[lethal idol]

Wait, it’s interacting with volumetric fog there,but holly this will be nice to add

[lethal idol]

cant seem to download it unfortunately, it says this content no longer exists, i was able to do it on my phone out when i tried opening that on the laptop it couldn't, nor can i extract it

[rich vault]

Get config from here #1182095383015456829 message
And materials from here #1182095383015456829 message

Also keep in mind that it only works on the game version it was created for, it doesn't work on latest versions

[lethal idol]

what version is it then

[rich vault]

1.21.10.21

It also only works during the night and only in the overworld

[lethal idol]

got it

hmm, i cant see that version in the bedrock launcher.

[rich vault]

It's a preview version

Not sure if/how you can download those from this launcher

[lethal idol]

i think those version were removed in the never version of the launcher

[lethal idol]

what launcher do you use then

[rich vault]

I don't use any. But you can try this one https://github.com/SmokeyStack/SmokeyVersionSwitcher

[tepid trout]

Umm, is there a preview this week?

[lethal idol]

yes, its every week Tuesday

[sleek grail]

1.21.80.29!

[limber tiger]

lol

[tepid trout]

I know, just confirming cause maybe they will be late and i might have missed something lol

[limber tiger]

tomorrow we gonna find out if it's 1.21.90 or 1.22

[tepid trout]

Nahhh, it's 1.25

[celest sluice]

Anyone have link to vibrant visuals java server?

[toxic horizon]

Missed 1.21.80.26/27/28?

[rough path]

?

[rich vault]

https://bsky.app/profile/dinnerbone.com/post/3lmziytg3qk2a

Nathan Adams (@dinnerbone.com)

I've started a _very unofficial_ discord server where some mojang developers and modders are discussing the rendering overhaul that Minecraft java edition is going through. It's free for all to read (though it's likely quite technical 😅), but only relevant modders can speak.
discord.gg/eWmK8p565c

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Bluesky · Apr 17, 2025, 4:17 PM

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-best-friend-best-friend-my-besto-friendo-gif-21469520

[rich vault]

🥷

[toxic horizon]

Oh wait, I just realised

[sleek grail]

?

[toxic horizon]

For some reason the .26,27,28 threads are closed for me

Idk why .25 is open for me. I closed it a bit ago

[sleek grail]

There's no .26

[toxic horizon]

[rough path]

https://x.com/Minecraft/status/1914384521996460060 ICYMI, I believe Mike is also going to make a #announcements post.

Minecraft (@Minecraft) on X

Everything you need to know about building in Minecraft: Bedrock Edition, explained!

Don't miss Creator Camp—a two-day live event packed with technical tutorials, a comprehensive overview of tools, everything you need to master the art of building in Minecraft and Roundtables

X · Apr 21, 2025, 6:23 PM

Super stoked and cool to see this be public.

[rotund pivot]

OH WE WILL BE EATING GOOD

[rotund pivot]

Mostly excited for roadmaps

[edgy abyss]

Oo whats the creator session?

[quasi wedge]

The first line is causing people to think this is somehow going to be tutorials like "How to build a house in Minecraft."

Actually, the 2nd line just references building things in Minecraft too

[rotund pivot]

I’m literally dying from laughter when i see replies under that post

[tepid trout]

this is getting... ~interesting~

[simple steppe]

true, for the context, that conversation is about custom command

[hushed solstice]

If I have a command with 3 optional params /example:do_something arg1 arg2 arg3, is there any way to also allow /example:do_something arg3 or /example:do_something arg2?

an example of what I'm looking to do is the /structure command, where there's 5 different auto-completes depending on your first/second args.

[rough path]

You cant have subcommands.

[hushed solstice]

Do I just register multiple with the same label?

[tepid trout]

Iirc, Navi said it's not possible

[fringe island]

Banana tomorrow?

[zenith aspen]

Tuesday?

[marble karma]

When multi-collision components are supported i kind of want the ability to attach them to bones

So like if a bone is active then that collision box is active

[marble karma]

And selection boxes too for that matter

[foggy isle]

BANANA!?!??

[tidal axle]

I wish the custom command worked like a resource pack. If there's a collision like /a:home and /b:home, the highest-ranked pack takes priority.

Pack A has a higher rank than B:

• /home will run /a:home
• but leaving /a:home and /b:home an alternative command in the autocompletion.

[rough path]

So you just want namespace omitted?

[tidal axle]

ye 🤪

[rough path]

@tidal axle

[azure spade]

When Preview?

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is with great honour to announce that it might be preview day

When do Previews usually happen?

Previews starting from March 11, 2025 will try to release on a Tuesday: https://bsky.app/profile/jorax.bsky.social/post/3lk4lhrpmoc2p

Apr 22, 2025, 12:03 AM

[fringe island]

Shouldn't player-placed trial spawners really change their loot when they become Ominous? I did a test and even though it was Ominous it gave me the normal key and not the Ominous key

[tribal torrent]

sniffs

Preview Day is fast approaching❗️

[tidal axle]

What a magnificent username you have

[torn pond]

Will today's preview be the one where they finally add glowing, 300 block tall ducks to Minecraft?

it's not likely, but not impossible, so we should all be optimistic that it will be.

[shadow mason]

why are jungles so cold?

[zenith aspen]

Happy apple day

[past wharf]

?

What do you mean ?

[shadow mason]

the temperature climate for jungles

its 0.95, very similiar to forests at 0.8

while deserts are 2.0

[past wharf]

Aaah in Minecraft

Ok ok

[shadow mason]

xD

[foggy isle]

HAPPY BABANA DAY!!!!!

[crisp token]

I hope we get 1.21.80

Stable

[foggy isle]

1.22 preview must be the first

[crisp token]

I'm going crazy already, can't wait for it anymore

[foggy isle]

wait for 1 preview

out

and then stable

[shadow mason]

1.21.90

[foggy isle]

for real?

[limber ledge]

We still don't know if the Summer Drop is going to be 1.22 or not because the new drop updates system completely changed how the big updates works.

So the next preview could be 1.21.90 rather than 1.22, we will see.

If it will be a 1.21.90 preview than there is a high chance to even see 1.21.100 preview. Last time we saw a .100 preview in 1.16.100 beta...

[foggy isle]

[limber ledge]

I hope from now on the big updates will be released in every 2 years rather than every year. Last summer we got 1.21, so we can get 1.22 next year.

It will give Mojang more time to make big updates for big numbers. Just like the Update Aquatic, Village&Pillage, Nether Update, and Caves&Cliffs Update.

[wet shell]

Oh boy I hope we get lots of deferred optimizations and fixes today

[odd onyx]

pretty please

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/bangboo-zzz-zenless-zenless-zone-zero-hoyoverse-gif-4633836399274652381

[devout barn]

I need 1.21.100 to be real

[heady sable]

1.21.90 first 🤭

[rotund pivot]

We might get 1.21.100 and were gonna skip 1.21.90 (like we did in 1.16)

[wet shell]

Or 1.22.0

[random karma]

and the debut of Vacation Creator Features

[rough path]

Read it as the Vatican.

[rotund pivot]

What is that (sorry)

[random karma]

1.16.100 was the version that Holiday Creator Features (HCF) where introduced

and the world of pain that took the best part of 4 years to clean up

[rotund pivot]

Ohhhh

[rough path]

Locator bar got de-experimentified in Java.

[fringe island]

Let's go 1.21.80.29

[rough path]

?

[rotund pivot]

-1/10 ragebait

[idle summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191972635605745675/1355921898231566546/image0.gif

[upbeat surge]

hey mates
any news about preview today?

[rough path]

Not sure about today, but there is a preview this week.

[upbeat surge]

thanks fren

[zenith aspen]

[fringe island]

Well Kayla said nothing so maybe there's a banana today

[rough path]

That is the opposite.

If kayla doesn't show up it usually means no Preview.

[foggy isle]

😔

no banana

[fringe island]

Let's wait then, who knows

What bothers me about these latest previews is the lack of translation in many items that had already been translated a long time ago.

[heady sable]

1.16 versioning was a mess and should not be used as a reference

[celest sluice]

Kayla may show up and say no preview

[rough path]

You dont fuck with 1.16.100, 1.16.200, 1.16.210?

[obsidian lark]

Semver? Never heard of it.

[heady sable]

versioning not necessarily the content of the updates themselves

1.16.100 my beloved ❤️

[rotund pivot]

No it was peak

[limber ledge]

Snapshot 25w17a

Cool

[torn pond]

imo they should just accept that drops are updates and give them full update numbers.

buzzy bees, frostburn, and many of the early updates were small in terms of content, too.

[muted widget]

i think it'll be 1.21.80.29

[torn pond]

the current system is just confusing.

[rough path]

I think it will be 1.22.0.20.

[rotund pivot]

Yeah there is a chance of this

[muted widget]

i feel that way the 1.21.80.28 looked that way that there will be 1.21.80.29 with 1-3 changes lol

what did i just say

something confusing

anyway

[rough path]

My biggest hint is that Navi said this week custom commands in chat might no longer need namespace to type it out which why would they make that change in a bug fix preview?

[muted widget]

i missed this

than i think it'll be 1.22.0.20

[fringe island]

So the translation issues would be fixed in the stable version?

[rough path]

What?

[fringe island]

the preview has items in English such as Deepslate

[rough path]

I'm confused what my comment has to do with that though, particularly "So the translation issues would be fixed in the stable version?"

[fringe island]

If a new preview phase opens today, the translation problem could only be fixed in the stable phase, or even if it is fixed in the preview, it would not count as being part of a new phase.

[agile matrix]

happy Tuesday

[rotund pivot]

Oh so there is preview

[rough path]

Irked that happy is lowercase.

[agile matrix]

hAPPY tUESDAY

[rough path]

Inb4 3.0.0 turns all enums to this case.

[agile matrix]

Inverse Pascal casing

[hasty grotto]

what if its just a happy tuesday?

no banana

[agile matrix]

could be

[toxic horizon]

oooo

[limber tiger]

I don’t think they would show up if it was for random thing

They would have said no preview

[agile matrix]

That's my secret, I'm always here

[rough path]

The tempting ban hammer:

[rotund pivot]

Most important for me

[toxic horizon]

same

My sister and I are currently planning stuff for a big add-on, and she wants to add some biomes. So seeing the roadmap for biomes will be pretty helpful

Also, with the new update Drops, how will Title updates be made? Usually Title Updates are made like 1.xx, but how has that changed with Drops now?

[rough path]

See: Bats and Pots, Armored Paws, Bundles of Bravery, The Garden Awakens, Spring To Life

[celest sluice]

Inb4 minor updates get synced

[stoic orchid]

Preview should be today.

[lethal idol]

Let’s goo no delay

[zenith aspen]

let's go no defer

[lethal idol]

Has the editor issue been fixed??

In this preview

[rough path]

What editor issue?

[lethal idol]

Let me see if I can find the video I sent

[lethal idol]

This one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182091012177399809/1359565593807814787/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.mp4?ex=68086c61&is=68071ae1&hm=e937fd53d3a063ba787d4aa264fb29f21c6686eaf7478ac96dd93204f6b0ff84&

This is in the editor window btw, just recorded that bit

And this only happens in the editor window

[celest sluice]

Well that confirms it. We're moving out of 1.21.80

Also, too early 😔

[eternal shoal]

It's not happy if there is no preview

*it's not happy if there is no preview with deferred changes

[limber tiger]

funny how they messed up the tweet

[zenith aspen]

same

[agile matrix]

HAPPY tuesday!!

[undone crane]

press relase on preview then it is

[hasty grotto]

press the button

[rotund pivot]

3 happy Tuesdays and 0 preview 🫩

[celest sluice]

Empty box emoji goes hard

[rotund pivot]

Sorry

[agile matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/pull-lever-ban-hammer-gif-12839321

[simple steppe]

drops
-# wrong chat

[rotund pivot]

My prediction is that it’s gonna be 1.21.90/1.21.100

[celest sluice]

Where change log

[limber tiger]

somebody ate it

[rotund pivot]

I ate the preview

Sorry

[zenith aspen]

📄

[rotund pivot]

Its out btw

And its 1.21.90

[celest sluice]

Link?

[hasty grotto]

test test https://aka.ms/minecraftbeta

[zenith aspen]

Out of my stomach

[undone crane]

chinese edition dam

[zenith aspen]

oh .90

[lethal idol]

Update out before changelog

[limber ledge]

We knew it.

[celest sluice]

Is that china?

[zenith aspen]

[undone crane]

mhm

[rotund pivot]

What is that supposed to mean

[lethal idol]

Yea seems like this update is coming to a end. Dinnerbone also talked about PR (pre release) so yea

[wet shell]

How do you have china edition

[wet shell]

No way

[rotund pivot]

I just wanted to check something there don’t mind it

[wet shell]

1.22 in 10 years

[lethal idol]

Update 1.21.80 is over and this all the features

[rotund pivot]

Yeah

[limber ledge]

Bro no

[rough path]

Release 21 Update 9

[limber ledge]

PR is a technical thing

Not the pre-release

[undone crane]

what ur onto

[limber ledge]

-_-

[celest sluice]

PR means pull request

[wet shell]

Summer drop is 1.21.90 confirmed

[lethal idol]

Well it was in the Java server and I am no expert

[hasty grotto]

But given it's a tuesday, mostly bug fixing 👀 Though everything in my last devlog has made it to a PR, if not already in main.
lol

[limber ledge]

I know. I saw it. It is another thing.

"Forthcoming Creator Features"

Nice name btw

[hasty grotto]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/36030119254925-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-21-90-20

[rotund pivot]

Phew i started to think that entire drop is about happy ghast and new leash mechanics

[undone crane]

imgae size is wrong lol

[hasty grotto]

wait what

[dawn fable]

those code blocks need some wrapping/scrolling

[wet shell]

Tf

[hasty grotto]

https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1364266284308631594

[rough path]

#1364266284308631594 please.

[sleek grail]

1.21.100 next

[torn pond]

1.21.360 will be a good one

[devout barn]

1.21.1000 will be legendary

[pure gull]

1.16.100 era is almost back

[tepid trout]

Fck yeahh

[narrow gulch]

not being able to cut other players leashes sounds odd to me.

[toxic horizon]

When is the creator livestream?

[pure gull]

From April 24th to April 26th (later this week).

[toxic horizon]

Thank you

[quasi wedge]

Is it a bug that stripping cherry logs is the only block with a different sound than all the other logs?

Just realized it's not using use.wood

[simple steppe]

it is using step.cherry_wood lol
that is weird

[quasi wedge]

I just double checked, per what you said about bamboo being step.bamboo_wood, it makes complete sense.

Both of these wood types were added in 1.20

so whoever was adding the sounds for the blocks more than likely made a mistake and thought the step sounds were used for stripping wood type blocks.

[simple steppe]

yeah

[fringe island]

the worst decision was to remove the player's arrow when you are far from the structure, seriously how do I know I'm going to the right place if the game doesn't show any sign?

[hasty grotto]

it was a bug but they didnt need to fix it

[plush wedge]

Isn't that you in the bottom left?

[slender wren]

Yes, but it used to point where you were pointing

[fringe island]

Yea

[fringe island]

yes, and honestly without this feature it was very complicated to use maps depending on the distance you are from the structure

[plush wedge]

You just go northeast

[ionic ocean]

Given how players get turned around, I'd expect this to be more accessible and not require players pay attention to the sun-moon cycle or have coordinates on.

[hasty grotto]

can symlinks be used for resource pack/behaviour pack folders?

probably not right?

[carmine kettle]

I use symlinks. Specifically junctions

The contents of the packs still reside in the Minecraft folders, but then I can build a junction to those packs from another location. For example, my D: drive

It's not the most ideal. The best symlink would work in reverse, so Minecraft can read contents from outside its installation.

@hasty grotto

[edgy abyss]

Drive

[hasty grotto]

oh

thanks

[azure spade]

Can I make Custom Biomes?

No. Custom biomes have been broken since 1.18. Mojang is fully aware of this and working hard to bring back this capability.

Here is the bug report: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-100700

Apr 23, 2025, 12:02 AM

[prisma niche]

Lie!

[toxic horizon]

Also, is there a stable release today?

[sleek grail]

Too soon for that

Iirc it's after .22 or maybe it's the same week as .22?

[toxic horizon]

Ah I thought since the preview went from 1.21.80 to .90

[devout barn]

This wasn't the worst, the worst is matching Java's mechanic of removing the marker entirely if you're too far from the map
At least not an explorer map issue, but still annoying for locator maps, especially if you have a map wall

[austere mirage]

client item ?

[prisma niche]

Isn't that for like 1.10 vanilla items like foods?

[austere mirage]

I don't know

[rough path]

Did you...look at the files?

[austere mirage]

microsoft docs

[rough path]

Attachables.

[fringe island]

This is one of the cases where parity should be from Bedrock to Java, but they did it from Java to Bedrock, thus worsening the existing mechanics.

[austere mirage]

particle_count was mentionned in changelog ?

[rough path]

No.

[warm shale]

How do I scroll to the top of this post?

[rough path]

Unfortunately iOS and Desktop only.

[zealous salmon]

Didn't know that 😄 That's odd

[simple steppe]

Pins
First pin is almost in top

Ok, nvm it is not

I hate how android app load only part of the discussion when you click the message to jump to it
You have to click jump to message again to get to it

[quasi wedge]

anyone know which update had the tags like "minecraft:is_shovel" start to perform some of the functions of the vanilla item?

[ionic ocean]

It's not yet in the engine, either.

[sleek grail]

Hasn't this been around since HCF?

[celest sluice]

The fields don't appear to be attachables. Unless they're revamping that system

I hope this just means we can modify an item's appears beyond textures, but without attachables

[rough path]

True, but attachables do contain those keys though.

[prisma steeple]

1.16.100, afaik, it's always behaved that way since HCF started

[quasi wedge]

ahh okay

just wish they would update these tags so their functionality would be more in line with the capabilities of the tool

[celest sluice]

Where's that?

Link?

[rough path]

MS docs repo.

[tribal torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/repo-repo-game-game-what-did-you-just-say-gif-4289058049802181267

[pliant cedar]

Are there any good tutorials on how to make custom structures using the jigsaw block?

[warm shale]

What are the two trash can lids?

[jaunty perch]

When stable?

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/kathlol-speed-ishowspeed-speed-laugh-ishowspeed-laugh-gif-3259526663984568833

Kayla just made a isSolid joke on the livestream.

[fluid wadi]

It was great!

[hasty grotto]

hoping the creator camp stuff will be archived

[rough path]

Flint and steel!

[celest sluice]

That's generally how YouTube live streams work, no?

[elfin flower]

Ender pearl.

[tropic chasm]

Kayla would have said Flint and Wood!

[willow harness]

same , i wanna look at it later after my exams end

[shadow mason]

they plan on releasing the stream in portions as smaller videos as well!

[hasty grotto]

yeah but a lot of the time the uploaders private them later

[hasty grotto]

yay

[willow harness]

yippee'

[tropic chasm]

“Spam crouch means anything and everything” wise words

[stoic orchid]

That one was for the real nerds.

[willow harness]

lol

[rough path]

CHKN JCKY

[fluid wadi]

Complaint: not enough puns

Also, your status as an AI was unclear

[stoic orchid]

haha - I had the moderator here giving me signals that you all wanted more puns

[fluid wadi]

That was me requesting it. You mostly came through /s

[stoic orchid]

haha

[fluid wadi]

In actuality, it was great!

[tropic chasm]

I asked the connectable block trait question too late 😭

[stoic orchid]

ask the blocks team in the Q&A later!

[tropic chasm]

Will do!

[willow harness]

wait how can we ask questions

[tropic chasm]

You can comment them in the live stream

[willow harness]

ooo

I have a question realted to entities specifically players

[shadow mason]

Are we getting a connectable trait?!

[tropic chasm]

Yes!

[balmy spire]

WHATATATATATAT

i’m late….

[tropic chasm]

I have to say, seeing my username mentioned correctly by Mike earlier in the stream just made my entire year

[balmy spire]

please tell me this is real i will dye…,,.,

[willow harness]

wait what's connectablee trait?

[tropic chasm]

WHAT

WHAT IS WHAT IM HEARING

[rough path]

WAIT.

PAUSE

LETS GOOO.

[willow sequoia]

[rich vault]

is IsSolid a block tag????

[balmy spire]

GYYYYYYAAAAAAAQAA

YAYYAYEEHSS

[willow harness]

Voxel Shapes woooooooooo

[rich vault]

Nvm, I thought they finally added a replacement for air tag

[rough path]

[willow sequoia]

Block entities!?

[rich vault]

Aren't these already released? I'm confused whether this is a roadmap or a coverage of already shipped features

[tropic chasm]

I have no idea what happened on my stream, is back on

[rough path]

Entity/Block connection isn't
2x faster rendering?
AI improvements?

[devout barn]

Performance improvements is always a W

[rich vault]

As long as it doesn't break any content

[rough path]

Connectable block trait soon™️

[willow sequoia]

Making Al improvements is definitely necessary

[rough path]

Yep, the question is whether it's already shipped or roadmap?

[quasi wedge]

LETS GOOO READING CRAFTING OUTPUT EVENT

[willow sequoia]

Fr?

[rotund pivot]

What would that do?

[quasi wedge]

I asked about it and they mentioned looking into it

[quasi wedge]

Pretty important for my skill add-on, if I could read the item that was crafted I would be able to run code off of that to perform some action

The only solution I've had is to use server forms and make custom crafting systems for everything

[rough path]

What did they say exactly?

Nvm, just rewinded.

[quasi wedge]

I keep rewinding and I can't find it 😭

[rough path]

Right before they left.

[quasi wedge]

yeah found it, apparently they already have that data too

got 2/3 questions answered at least, back to trying every single pivot point for attachables

[viral plinth]

not the broken attack animation

[quasi wedge]

I'm just trying to make the swing animation for when a tool gets used 😭

[willow sequoia]

Ask them about it

[quasi wedge]

I did it wasn't answered

[willow sequoia]

Ask again

[quasi wedge]

and again?

[willow sequoia]

Yep

Now you get it

[quasi wedge]

I'll either just settle for being very close, or just do no 1st person animations for tool usage

[rotund pivot]

I’m excited now for custom biomes roadmap after all of this

[quasi wedge]

Looking at how the tool moves though has made me realize the players arm is straight up spazzing out whenever they swing or use something

It's so erratic

[muted widget]

what i meant with emissive block material was something like eyeblossom =(

but shocked my question got answered

[muted widget]

i had to specify, bring up eyeblossom example, because this is something i really really want to do without workarounds such as entities lol

[rough path]

Well with VV being the default, I guess theres no problem.

[muted widget]

but what if i don't want to play with VV, and want to recreate something like eyeblossom, but on my custom block

[rich vault]

• not all players have vv compatible hardware

[hasty grotto]

most people on phones can barely run the game at like 10 chunks

[shadow mason]

Entity and Block connection?

[rough path]

The Creaking.

[shadow mason]

-# Is this like the creeking or more like block actors?

[shadow mason]

The freaking, noted

[rough path]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1335837764611997787/1363623165854486714/twitter_1913943977314886080.gif?ex=680ca349&is=680b51c9&hm=3e5456375aaf2666a0e6d3c5bbd0604204512d2b1177f4451d85ca3c25895ae7&=

[shadow mason]

NOOOOO

😭

[short locust]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Eyeblossom I was curious and looked it up but it doesn't look like it emits any light to its surroundings. Is there another block thats emissive that you'd want to replicate?

[rich vault]

I think the issue is that we can't create blocks that are emissive but not light emitting. E.g. firefly bush

[short locust]

To clarify and as we mentioned in the stream, connections are on the roadmap though no guarantee what form they take (might not be a trait)

[ionic ocean]

I forgot we were lacking that…

[muted widget]

mot that the block emits light, but it's texture is emissive. at night, the eyeblossom opens up, and it's eye is glowing, like, for example, enderman eyes

that's what i meant, if we'll get an ability to do something like thos on custom blocks

[dusty shale]

or the new firefly bush, I agree

would be great

[muted widget]

yes, these 2 blocks, i already know which block i would add this addition to in my add-on, active soul sand

[rough path]

Can you say what form yall have toyed with?

[muted widget]

there are light-blue parts on it and it would be so cool if they could glow like eyeblossom or firefly bush

[dusty shale]

I created a stove for an addon I was working on, and it would be great for that.

[muted widget]

#emissiveblockmaterial

[dusty shale]

well, it would emit alot of light though, so I doubt it would be noticeable.

I was just thinking what I could use it for currently lol

[prisma niche]

I think we would love to have emissive block textures, similar to magma blocks and the eyeblossom. This is a thing on Java where a cube inside of the model can have the emissive property. For example, the eyeblossom has 4 cubes in its model. 2 for the regular texture, and 2 for the "glowing eye" texture, and these cubes has the emssivie property (taken from Java Edition) but I do think it would be an awesome block material ^^"

[short locust]

Being talked about now in the Q/A, but will be a mix of voxel shapes and scripting

[rough path]

🙃 YT stream isn't working for me so I gave up lol. Will catch up on the VOD.

[crisp token]

basic wood set, I hope we get decaying custom leaves for custom trees with custom trunks

[wild fractal]

what cool things are a-goin' today

[fringe island]

Are these upcoming features?

[torn pond]

im looking forward to being able to edit Vibrant Visuals within editor mode, that'll be fun.

that was on yesterdays stream but still

[fringe island]

I wanted to understand what "roadmap" means

[shadow mason]

Whats up with the voxel shapes mentioned on the roadmap?

[quasi wedge]

WHAT IS THE PIVOT POINT

[fluid wadi]

Yeah, isn’t being made of voxels Minecraft’s whole thing?

[shadow mason]

are you asking what a pivot point is?

[dusty shale]

the, not a

they are trying to replicate the positioning and rotation of vanilla items.

[dusty shale]

once you figure it out, can you share the animation file? lol

[quasi wedge]

I'll never figure it out, I've spent probably 6+ hours now trying different pivot points and changing rotations/positions

[dusty shale]

you mind just sharing this then?

[quasi wedge]

I even found temporary hope, thinking that the bow attachable available in the RP was using the correct ones

I was wrong

[dusty shale]

ill suffer then

[simple steppe]

that is a mesh?

[short locust]

Re this for making something emissive so that it can ignore lighting. Just wanted to say we did some investigations today on this and its on our radar now. No promises on timelines or anything, but just wanted to give an update 🙂

[quasi wedge]

It is, why?

[simple steppe]

i worked with it before, seem fine

[quasi wedge]

huh

[simple steppe]

How does your model look in Blockbench

[quasi wedge]

I don't think you understand what I'm doing

[simple steppe]

are you using binding? Or player bones

[quasi wedge]

I'm trying to create a perfect copy of Minecraft's vanilla tool hold position using the pivot point and the rotations/positions. However, it's impossible to ever get it exact unless you know what pivot point coordinates are being used, and will only ever be "close."

[simple steppe]

When using binding you can get a preview in Blockbench
Add that mesh to a group (folder) and change it binding to the right arm.
You can change the group pivot and properties freely then

[rich vault]

Idk how useful that's to you, but the way I'd approach finding pivot point is:

• first, figure out rotation and offset. To do that, you can just create a 16x16 plane item, rotate it on 2 axis and offset on 1 axis. The goal is maximising z-fighting with the reference model.
• after that, all that's left is figuring out offset within the plane, and possibly rotation. This is another 2-3 axis of freedom that you'd need to vary. You can also split this part into finding just rotation and vertical offset within the plane, via maximising z-fighting similar to step 1, and then finally find a horizontal offset.
  You can math out these steps together to find the final position and rotation transformation.

That is only for matching static item offset tho, it doesn't tell you rotation pivot point. But you can find it by finding static offset of 2-3 different rotations and from that derive where rotation pivot point is

[quasi wedge]

The issue is that any changes to the pivot point also affect the rotation

which will affect the offset

The items held in the hand are also scaled down ever so slightly, so sure, I have the custom 3D shovel nearly there, but no amount of changing the rotation will ever make it line up properly because the pivot point the game is using for these by default is different

[rich vault]

if you can make it line up at 2 distinct points in time in the rotation animation, you can math out where the rotation pivot point is

Not easy by any means but not impossible either

Btw can you rotate vanilla item around its pivot point? If you can apply some kind of animation that'll rotate randomly, it should be easy to figure out the point around which it rotates

[quasi wedge]

can't add a rotation to the item since it's not data-driven, best you can do is do an animation on the player model for 3rd person

[simple steppe]

@quasi wedge this might help?

just preview it and position it as you like

it is almost 1 to 1

[sleek grail]

Has anyone tested how minecraft:custom_hit_test interacts with minecraft:is_collideable

[charred ocean]

new mojangster on the line 👀
https://x.com/FiskFille/status/1915882860747051283?s=19

Filip (@FiskFille) on X

I am SUPER excited to finally announce that, starting in May, I'll be joining the @Minecraft development team at @Mojang!

I am infinitely thankful to everyone who has supported my work over the years. ❤️

X · Apr 25, 2025, 9:37 PM

[sleek grail]

Bedrock or Java team?

[rich vault]

Java

[charred ocean]

Java

[sleek grail]

That was unnecessary

[pure gull]

I would be there as the first Ukrainian employer at Mojang in the next years after achieving a master's degree in Kyiv Polytechnic Institute.

[hasty grotto]

good luck

[simple steppe]

add air tag when you are there

[hasty grotto]

and duel wielding

[pure gull]

Everyone asking to add me something in Minecraft is never a good idea though because there's a philosophical question around the development. Only feedback ideas can allow employees at Mojang to get things as implemented eventually.

[charred ocean]

good luck my guy

[foggy isle]

i need it

[simple steppe]

One thing i really don't like about colored torch light is that the stick part of the torch don't get effected at all

[deep stream]

pumpimg my world full of addons and resource packs, they surprisngly work well together, didn't notice any broken stuff

[torn pond]

It's a shame the actual feedback discord doesn't see much mojang dev activity.

[pure gull]

Apparently, they removed all Minecon capes from 2016's Skin Pack.

[peak idol]

The next stable release is too far?

1.21.80

[charred ocean]

just a couple weeks

[torn pond]

Still seem to work on the 2015 skin pack, so idk why they'd remove them from the 2016 one.

however, if you equip another cape and an elytra, then it becomes invisible

2016 ones could just be a bug then? or you accidentally selected another cape?

[elfin flower]

2015 capes existed before the combat update, therefore those cape does not have an elytra texture.

though the 2016 one is kinda unclear if it was before or after the update.

[rotund pivot]

portfolio is the only item that can be obtained exclusively in MCEE as of mcbe 1.21.90

Interesting that MCEE features are becoming less exclusive

[wintry lantern]

Are there schema definitions for biome files?

[marble karma]

How did you find those in your inventory?

I don't see it in mine and I'm in the education edition

[rotund pivot]

You can easily make addon of mcee items being in inventory tab

[marble karma]

Huh

[rotund pivot]

You just need modify categories tab and that’s it

[marble karma]

Just using a crafting item catalog?

[rotund pivot]

Yes

[sleek grail]

There's a draft pr for blockception's extension if you want to look at that

Also, vanilla biome files are available in the vp

[toxic horizon]

oh what, biome files are in rp?

[rough path]

Yes.

[dawn fable]

they're in both
visuals and sounds are RP
generation, mob spawning etc are BP

[limber ledge]

It's strange they haven't updated the biome names yet on Bedrock

Java = Badlands
Bedrock = Mesa

[elfin flower]

How should one force DX12 on bedrock?

[rough path]

I used BetterRenderDragon to force Bedrock to launch using Dx12.

[elfin flower]

Does that support preview in any chance?

[half depot]

Likely not. It's hard to keep it updated now

[charred ocean]

it does

it has 2 files. One for release and one for preview

run the .bat file for preview and it should open up

[manic tinsel]

New cape acquired

[torn pond]

nice

personal favorite cape is still the pride cape

(and sadly, one of the few that is bedrock exclusive)

[elfin flower]

Ah, i see.

it does work.

[charred ocean]

eyo you went for the irl event?

[elfin flower]

well obviously duh

what else can he get it from

[manic tinsel]

Yup!

[shadow mason]

we got the last 1.21.80 preview 12d ago

wonder when we'll see it in stable

[muted widget]

i think tomorrow, and preview will be shifted to wednesday

[plush heron]

how to get that?

[muted widget]

you have to participate in minecraft experience

[plush heron]

whats that?

[manic tinsel]

https://www.minecraftexperience.com/

[plush heron]

ty!

[zealous salmon]

Reminds me I need to claim my cape! Been a few weeks now since I went and I just keep forgetting

[rough path]

Stable is usually the .22 week.

Have people still not learned the pattern?

[foggy isle]

i've

[zenith aspen]

[quasi wedge]

uhhh, why learn pattern when you can just say "PREVIEW TODAY? :DPOGGYOSMIRKDIUBWPOU:"

[muted widget]

i thought Block.getMapColor() is already stable... i need it so badly...

[balmy spire]

true

[ionic ocean]

I wonder why most of the block components are still hidden from scripting. For example, it'd be really great to read into the waterlogging behavior or replace-ability of a block.

Maybe it's just way more effort than I understand…

[rough path]

Waterlog is beta apis iirc.

https://stirante.com/script/server/2.1.0-beta.1.21.90-preview.20/classes/Block.html#isliquidblocking

[ionic ocean]

Oh, yes, I forgot about those. Strange how those aren't in a component…

[rough path]

Actually, @agile matrix , any reason why its a method oj block and not a component.

[rough path]

Great minds think alike.

[ionic ocean]

I mentioned the replaceable component because that's a big thing to know for custom components.

[ionic ocean]

Ooh, something random now: something I'd kill for.

I want manual texture rotation mappings for blocks. If we can have isotropic, we can have explicit orientations. This would fix the case where some blocks' UV mappings match vanilla for minecraft:geometry.full_block, while others are double-rotated.

[rough path]

Keyframes in camera

[rough path]

I would love random offsets as well for models.

[ionic ocean]

I'm sure we'll get that. They're clearly investing in plant and tree stuff, and that's soemthing players expect custom stuff to have.

[rough path]

They did mentiom they want the full woddset recreatable

[dawn fable]

they need to fix the ambient occlusion from surrounding blocks too

makes a lot of plant blocks way too dark

[ionic ocean]

And add ambient occlusion to non-opaque full blocks

[languid tinsel]

I swear I saw someone mention the other day a way to stop entities sinking in powdered snow but I can't fiiiiind it

[manic tinsel]

Me just thinking with my minecraft brain cause I have never tried but what if you just give the mob leather boots?

[tidal axle]

Maybe add lightweight family on them? Cus rabbit.json has it for some reason

[manic tinsel]

You know that might be it XD the fox has that too

[languid tinsel]

LIGHTWEIGHT THATS WHAT I SAW

[sleek grail]

Hoping we get a standarized way to strip logs

Though that's probably not happening

[quasi wedge]

that's a thing?!

[red dove]

Preview?

[foggy isle]

BANANA!!!

[zenith aspen]

12 hours till the banana time

[azure spade]

When Preview?

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is with great honour to announce that it might be preview day

When do Previews usually happen?

Previews starting from March 11, 2025 will try to release on a Tuesday: https://bsky.app/profile/jorax.bsky.social/post/3lk4lhrpmoc2p

Apr 29, 2025, 12:03 AM

[jaunty perch]

when stable?..

[hazy mantle]

Banana day!

[charred ocean]

2 weeks after the version cycle ends. Mostly on the week when .22 or .23 releases

so basically the next stable release would be on the week when 1.21.90.22 releases

[muted widget]

stable day hopefully

[sleek grail]

That'd be next week

[muted widget]

oh, wait, it'll be .21 this week? i thought .22 lol

i'm so lost in my work that i'm starting to forget everything

[foggy isle]

It will out after 21 is out

80 stable will out in .22 week

21

Hoorya

[undone crane]

Preview today?

[dusty shale]

yeah.

[zenith aspen]

Banana

[devout barn]

Previeeeeeeew

Day

[cerulean quarry]

stable?

[torn pond]

will this be the preview where they finally add the furnace minecart?

probably not, but let's not be pessimistic here

[rough path]

I don't think the furnace minecart is ever getting ported.

[torn pond]

which is really unfortunate. :(

i like the furnace minecart.

it's not like, a particularly great feature but also i used it recently in survival, it's not bad, and certainly has potential (especially if they ever let us connect minecarts)

[torn pond]

in terms of actually possible things for this preview, i'm hoping for further superflat improvements since we haven't seen anything since the initial set of presets. Hopefully also editor mode working properly for VV like they showed in the stream? (unless that's me being stupid and not knowing how to use it properly)

[hoary forge]

Boooooo

[fringe island]

Banana day

[foggy isle]

BANANA!!!!

[rough path]

Interesting recioe changes in today's snapshot.

[hoary forge]

Could you link me the snapshot, please?

[random karma]

link the snapshot NOW

https://tenor.com/view/lightning-strikes-sweet-dreams-good-night-weather-gif-11890366

(please)

[hoary forge]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-25w18a

[willow harness]

👀

[charred ocean]

happy preview day!

:)

:)

[charred ocean]

:]

:-]

:-D

I'm gona eat the preview button

[willow harness]

the face is evolving

[willow harness]

wait no

[fluid wadi]

Bad nikmc, bad.

[charred ocean]

:DDDD

[charred ocean]

:-]

[charred ocean]

:-C

:c

:o

:-/

The preview button wasn't found

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Stolen User: @languid tinsel

[willow harness]

is that a good thing or a bad thing

[torn pond]

I like the happy ghast recipe change (but i still think that it probably should be a bit more difficult to get, to encourage exploration).
idk how i feel about the lead change. It makes them cheaper which makes sense given how they want you to be using them more, and slime spawning mechanics right now are very outdated, but it does mean that people who aren't interested in redstone have even less reason to care about slimes than they did before. Not a bad change, but it does have an effect on slimes' usefulness (besides redstone where they're still extremely useful).

[charred ocean]

User found guilty

[charred ocean]

User has been found online

[idle summit]

Preview day yippee

[charred ocean]

user inventory contains 1x button

button found real

Notification Received: It is Beta/Preview day

Preview releases in under 2 hours!

[torn pond]

What do you expect it to have?
java snapshot's pretty small (2 recipe changes, 1 bartering change, a splash potion change which i don't quite understand, and a nice datapack change)

good time for bedrock to get updates to some of the currently bedrock-specific changes (superflats, vibrant visuals, add-ons) maybe?

[undone crane]

they could also roll out some oreui stuff

[rough path]

Add-ons always get updated every update lol.

[torn pond]

true

[rough path]

I highly doubt any new screens are ready for deployment.

[torn pond]

just depends on how big the changes are

[undone crane]

inventory could be, it has been in development for a decent time

[limber ledge]

I want to see;

• The Party System
• New Mob Spawning Parity Experiment
• New OreUI stuff

[rough path]

I seriously doubt it will. they need to update every other in-game screen.

[undone crane]

oh yea mob spawning stuff too

[torn pond]

i want OreUI editing but that's still years away.

[rough path]

Yeah...I seriously think we're getting mob spawning experiments in 1.21.90.

[undone crane]

fair point

[rough path]

🙈 Ignore I said that for 1.21.80 as well.

[undone crane]

technical comminty will get seroius depression with mob spawning experiment

[quasi wedge]

No we are surely getting before damage today

[limber ledge]

If they bring the mob spawning parity, then what else they will need to do to match the mob farms with java edition? Only the redstone parity?

[torn pond]

wait what are they doing to mob spawning

[rough path]

Java parity.

[limber ledge]

Passive mob spawning parity with java

[torn pond]

sad

[undone crane]

killing methods are different, java has light suppresion what bedrock dosent etc

also storages are different

[rough path]

A lot more.

[limber ledge]

Storages?

[undone crane]

farm storage

u need to store the items somewehre

[torn pond]

wait is java mob spawning actually good and i've only noticed it being terrible because i played on servers where it was bad

[limber ledge]

Oh

[limber ledge]

It is good

[torn pond]

oh alright then

[limber ledge]

Bedrock’s mob spawning it’s too easy

[rough path]

Hostile yes, passive no.

[torn pond]

hm. :<

[undone crane]

what no, java is too easy

[limber ledge]

Actually the passive is good. It makes a reason to do passive mob farms.

[rough path]

No.

[undone crane]

u know nothing

[rough path]

There are no passive mob farms in Java because of how terrible it is.

[undone crane]

u might as well run into a wall than make an passive mob farm on java

[rough path]

You have a higher chance of convincing the BE devs to add air tag than convince me to make a passive mob farm in JE.

[undone crane]

indeed

imagine if air tag todayy

[quasi wedge]

L-L-L-LAVA

[limber ledge]

In which mobs are you talking with “passive”?

[fluid wadi]

C-C-C-Chicken

[undone crane]

cows, pigs etc

[fringe island]

When will villagers in Bedrock give us gifts if they beat us in a raid?

[rough path]

They're selfish.

[limber ledge]

This is what I’m talking about

[undone crane]

yes and their spawning on java is bad

[limber ledge]

For me they are good because when you pick up them then you can feed them to spawn new baby ones

[undone crane]

what we are talking about natural sapwns not breeding

[limber ledge]

Yeah I didn’t see any problems on spawning

[rough path]

🙃

Dude...

[undone crane]

no problems is not equal to good

[torn pond]

doesn't java spawn passive mobs way less often than bedrock?

[limber ledge]

Yes

[torn pond]

yeah thats not good :<

[quasi wedge]

The only issue I've ever had with mob spawning on bedrock is when mobs suddenly ceased to spawn one day on a realm and nothing we did every made them spawn again

[rough path]

Passive mobs on Bedrock are easier due to:

• Natural mob spawning being faster
• 2 minute breeding cooldown instead of 5

[undone crane]

farms are slow

[quasi wedge]

Farms.. shouldn't be fast?

[undone crane]

yes they should bc bedrock has no tnt duping

[rough path]

Errr...think of them as mass industrial factories insetead.

[torn pond]

i guess, could be neat as part of a difficulty rework to have it also affect passive mob spawning rates.
but they don't seem to have done anything to making each difficulty more unique since they reversed the keepinventory change.

[limber ledge]

But it makes a real reason to breed the passive mobs. If they spawn more easy like Bedrock then less players will breed them

[quasi wedge]

It's a total non-issue

[torn pond]

that's still useful? if you farm them, you have a steady supply of food/leather/wool/feathers/etc. all the time. If not, you'll usually be able to get some but in more limited amounts.

[limber ledge]

Let’s wait and see which one they will choose.

[sleek grail]

Is it me or did they not fix the bug where you couldn't /place nested features

[rough path]

Pretty sure it's still bugged.

JE just got

All JSON files (in worlds, packs, configuration, etc.) are now parsed in strict mode
Which means no comments or unquoted keys

Hopefully BE devs don't remove comments.

[undone crane]

hmm for an air tag would you allow bedrock devs to remove comments

[toxic horizon]

Oof, I hope not. I need to know what some of my shit does from time to time xD

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/bangboo-zzz-zenless-zenless-zone-zero-hoyoverse-gif-4633836399274652381

We used to ban people for suggesting this compromise.

[celest sluice]

Is there any reason they'd make it strict?

[limber ledge]

Data driven enchantments when

[toxic horizon]

!block

[quasi wedge]

air tag is dumb and Smokey is just carrying the torch that gravel dropped

[toxic horizon]

Maybe an issue with the Java parser?

[rough path]

We used to ban people for making fun of admins.

[undone crane]

worst compromise ever, its only hard for u

[toxic horizon]

😂

[rough path]

they literally switched their parser

[toxic horizon]

Maybe an issue with that parser

[undone crane]

they have mods change it back fr

[limber ledge]

Also if this drop is going to be a transportation update then hopefully they will add the new minecart improvements

[undone crane]

[quasi wedge]

Insert oh the misery meme

[toxic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25368312

[rough path]

No.

[toxic horizon]

Haven't heard anything about the new minecart changes in a while actually. I wonder what's happening with it now

[undone crane]

are we getting chunk loading in bedrock before year 3000

[toxic horizon]

Lol

/tickingarea

[limber ledge]

They did not even update the new redstone experiments

[undone crane]

not surviaval friendly

[rough path]

Me when I load 100 chunks on my old phone.

[toxic horizon]

There is workarounds for the chunkloading atm. Someone posted about it somewhere

[rich vault]

Maybe they want java creators to compile their json files as typescript

[upbeat surge]

Hey frens
Preview today?

[toxic horizon]

Hopefully

[undone crane]

perhaps

[upbeat surge]

No anounce yet?

[toxic horizon]

Nothing said yet about it not coming today

[undone crane]

they dont always

[upbeat surge]

Got it
Thanks frens

[rotund pivot]

real life should be data driven

[toxic horizon]

It is

Our DNA and neurological signals

[languid tinsel]

I ate it

[agile matrix]

yo wake up, it's 🍌 day

wait let me double check

[toxic horizon]

That seems like confirmation

[agile matrix]

maybe I jumped the 🍌

[toxic horizon]

[agile matrix]

🍌

[toxic horizon]

[agile matrix]

ok I am like 70% sure there is a 🍌 today.

[rough path]

The 30% is Navi nuking the codebase.

[undone crane]

silly mistake

[hoary forge]

I'm starting to think that you used to ban everyone

[agile matrix]

admin abus

[lethal idol]

fr

[hoary forge]

BANANA DAY!!

[fluid wadi]

Mentioning it is dangerous /s

[rough path]

I'll abuse @minecraft/debug-utilities

[undone crane]

such an laggy feature 250k lines runs on 20 fps

/j

[zenith aspen]

something day!

[celest sluice]

Debug utilities still beta?

[undone crane]

yea

[celest sluice]

Ok just checking

[undone crane]

wdym still beta it has been avalible for 1 preview

[zealous salmon]

Would be cool if it eventually becomes stable, but I could see why they also wouldn't want that

[celest sluice]

Can you have a stable and beta scripting module at the same time

[undone crane]

i dont think so

[charred ocean]

fr fr

[zealous salmon]

usually the betas include all stable features, so not sure what the benefit would be?

[charred ocean]

also hi again :3

[celest sluice]

So I can't have stable scripting with beta debug utilities at the same time

[hoary forge]

Well, the module has been available for a bit, but the debug drawer has been available since 1.21.90.20

[undone crane]

ah okay

[hoary forge]

Pretty sure you can

[zealous salmon]

oh you can mix & match stable/beta modules

just not of the same module

[celest sluice]

Cool

That's fine then

[zealous salmon]

yeah, iirc navi (or someone else) said debug-utilities only requires @minecraft/[email protected] or something like that

[charred ocean]

what do you guys think we gonna get today

[agile matrix]

coal

[undone crane]

update

[celest sluice]

What Java got + vv stuff

[charred ocean]

no. a banana

[zealous salmon]

can we get cold coal

i am melting

[wide swan]

I wonder if refractions are cancelled

[charred ocean]

aside from jokes, i think we gonna get the flat world void preset

[undone crane]

that would be good yea

[charred ocean]

tweaks to flying ghast ofc

[celest sluice]

Doubt it. They just haven't started yet

Vv will still be developing after stable relt

[charred ocean]

and the very obvious thing bug fixes

[agile matrix]

Here is my leak from the changelog, probably the BIGGEST scripting API of the year:

• Moved TicksPerDay from beta to stable

[zealous salmon]

ticks per day??

[celest sluice]

Game changing fr

[zealous salmon]

i never knew that was even in beta

sounds cool

[willow sequoia]

[charred ocean]

no way. omg navi leaks fr

[charred ocean]

jk

[willow sequoia]

Better than increased lore, fr fr

[undone crane]

it exsists what

[wide swan]

Do you think refractions will be pixelated

[zealous salmon]

oh it's a read only constant, lols

[charred ocean]

better than a banana being dipped into tomato sauce

[celest sluice]

I don't think so. Reflections were already weird enough

[agile matrix]

That's a pretty low bar...

[zealous salmon]

you know what, i think i'd like that

[celest sluice]

I liked shadows, but reflections, not so much

[charred ocean]

eyo what

[celest sluice]

Pixelated*

[zealous salmon]

it's a bit like fries in a milkshake

[willow sequoia]

Clearly you've never tried a banana dipped in tomato sauce, it's a fantastic snack for those long days

[idle summit]

That can’t be that bad

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[celest sluice]

...

[zealous salmon]

nah it's so good

[idle summit]

Sounds fine

[zealous salmon]

you gotta try it

it's life changing honestly

[pure gull]

I mean, will there be like a new chemical material in the future drop like this?

[celest sluice]

AI video?

[idle summit]

I think so lol

[agile matrix]

Ecological disaster drop

[celest sluice]

Custom fluids after custom wood set confirmed

[zealous salmon]

frogs eating fireflies was a bit too much but ecological disaster sounds amazing

[idle summit]

I wonder if we’ll ever get official fluid support

[languid tinsel]

Woah calm down there!

[fluid wadi]

You could even partner with some governments to promote it!

[idle summit]

hmmm

I don’t think the US will like that one

[past wharf]

Sure because global warming is fake

Proof : it's cold sometimes

Also the earth is flat

Proof : it's not round

[fluid wadi]

Proof: Minecraft

[past wharf]

Shadows aren't cubes on bedrock

I demonstrated that you are false

[fluid wadi]

You are correct. I do not exist.

But does anyone else here exist?

[past wharf]

Me

Because I think, I am

-Descartes

[fluid wadi]

Because I am, I overthink
-Me

[rotund pivot]

I ate preview
-Yum

[past wharf]

Very good