General Discussion

[dusty shale]

seems a little random,
its usually Wednesday, Thursday, Friday or Saturday it seems.

[lunar musk]

Anyone tried grok 2 ai?

Of course ai isn't the best to work with, and I'm constantly correcting them, grok 2 seems to understand json ui better in relation to script api for bedrock

I've tried a few ai's religiously for fun

Of course ai can't be trusted but it gets alot right if you know the api well enough to correct it's minor stuff

Some people don't like ai, I get that, but it's super interesting to see what they are capable of

[dusty shale]

🚪 🚶

[lunar musk]

Lol

Alr

[dusty shale]

kidding

[lunar musk]

Haha

I get the joke hahahahha

No worries

[dusty shale]

well, my opinion on it is not a joke

[lunar musk]

I have cousins that code for a living, and they don't like the ai because of how crappy they are... but for me, it's a side thing

So it's nice and speeds it up for me

[dusty shale]

I think it makes people lazy.

[lunar musk]

Yeah true, I do have to debug all the time. And manually correct stuff

[dusty shale]

idc about if its reliable or not

[lunar musk]

Lol fair

I'm not lazy, I just don't have all the time in the world lll

Lol

But I'm also lazy

So it's a catch 22

[dusty shale]

"im not lazy, but im also lazy" lmao

nah but the time thing is understandable

its just sad to see everything being taken over by AI.

[lunar musk]

Yeah when I first learned javascript/ coding in general from minecraft I was doing everything manually haha it was so frustrating and I begged for help non-stop... ai was newer but it helped me look up the api on the website and here I am not pulling my hair out every time.

No worries, I took a coding class and passed with an A not using ai at all the whole time, that was painful lol

But I'm a blend rn, saves me time is all

But I do alot of manual coding ngl, decent at debugging cause ai sucks at that

Anyways, I won't say not to use ai, but don't use it unless you know the api well enough lol or willing to go bald

The coding gurus will get thinner due to reliance on ai... unfortunately

The true knowledgeable ones

[stoic orchid]

Happy New Year everyone!

[rough path]

Happy New Year! Hope you had a good break.

[stoic orchid]

I did! Thank you!

[stoic junco]

happy new year kayla

[prisma niche]

Happy new year Kayla!! I hope you had a great break/holiday with friends and family 💖

[stoic orchid]

We should be back to Previews this week.

[rough path]

Do your thing twitter people.

🙏 Manifesting air tag.

[limber tiger]

Manifesting for feature announcement

[peak idol]

What is air tag and why people keep asking for it

[marble karma]

Manifesting easier redstone compatibility 🙏

[rough path]

Actual, screw air tag. I need runtime ids to be removed and the projectile component to be fully exposed. And dolphins as well.

[stoic orchid]

Is this on your wishlist article?

[rough path]

Yes ma'am.

-# https://smokeystack.dev/blog/minecraft-2025-wishlist

[limber tiger]

I hope we going to learn more about 1.22

or the 1.21 drop

is the next update a game drop or a proper release?

[rough path]

The next update is 1.21.60 so.... 😛

[celest sluice]

inb4 they remove it without exposing the properties that came with them

[wet shell]

Small preview orrr???

[rough path]

They almost exposed the dolphin fully.

[peak idol]

Oh so it's a way to know if a block is fair

[limber tiger]

Well, let's hope the ""leaks"" are correct (I'm not going to talk about that, it's forbiden)

[peak idol]

Isn't testing the block id with "minecraft:air" an option??

[rough path]

😛 JSON files.

[dawn fable]

you can only check that the ID is equal to the given ID, so you can't check for "not air"

[peak idol]

There isn't any way to get block id through JSON files?

[celest sluice]

what I'd want before they remove runtime identifiers are

• solid collision box from shulkers
• proper projectile logic from snowballs
• ability to remove shadows (forgor where this is from)

• unlimited render distance from enderdragon

[rough path]

😭 Bro specifically wants only snowball projectile to be exposed /s

[marble karma]

Ngl I don't know what i want more than them fixing blend render option or custom shitbox geometry

[celest sluice]

What's wrong with it?

[rough path]

🙏 We love Custom Shitbox.

[rich vault]

Disable teleportation interpolation 🙏

[dawn fable]

lightning geometry when?

[marble karma]

I mean custom hit boxes 💀

Like stairs etc

[rich vault]

Custom sh...?? ah nvm

[rough path]

Yeah I know, just joking around haha.

😛 That's also on my wishlist.

[plush wedge]

My new strategy to remove shadows is renders_when_invisible + invisibility effect

[rough path]

Oh that is smart.

[celest sluice]

Clever

Too bad that overrides the invisbility effect

[plush wedge]

Now I can go back and fix the maps that broke years ago when they prevented the material patch from disabling shadows

[lunar musk]

Still waiting for them to bring back piston before event cancel and add before entityHit sorta stuff

[celest sluice]

custom redstone when

[lunar musk]

Create Aeronautics when lol

[plush wedge]

Yeah, not so good for addon type mobs, where the player can get actual invisibility potions (and expects them to work), though for a map you can easily recreate true invisibility on the client if you need it

[celest sluice]

Ye for maps is definitely a useful trick

[muted widget]

all i want for 8th of january is fix to block item same id in multiplayer

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-chao-chao-sonic-adventure2battle-sonic-adventure-battle2-sonic-gif-20879342

[prisma niche]

I'd like to see some improvements/fixes to Jigsaws. Mainly want to see them add terrain adaptation for the nether and end + proper generation in those dimensions.

[hoary forge]

happy new year, ChatGPT NPC #1!!

[prisma niche]

I would also like to replace the loot table of vaults with processors.

[manic tinsel]

Nice wishlist 😛

[prisma steeple]

it's become a meme, but it would unironically be very useful

[rich vault]

I concur

Trying to manage performant raycasting through scripting with minimum latency is a pain and a big bottleneck sometimes. Things would be so much easier if we can just have q.raycast() or at least an air tag, to manually perform client side raycasting with relative_block_has_any_tag and DDA voxel ray marcher

[shadow mason]

runtime ids keeping my entire project together

also better placement filters, like you suggested on your wishlist, would finally solve so so many problems

but I'm sure I saw custom trims before, are they really impossible?

[rough path]

Might be thinking of Java.

[rough path]

And make headaches for marketplace.

[shadow mason]

could be, my bad

[shadow mason]

I'm not too sure, but I think they are disallowed on the marketplace?

but they do show how many missing and really important features there are...

[rough path]

I think they are disallowed on the marketplace?
hence why it's a headache.

[manic tinsel]

Only on Addons not Worlds we used them in those projects all the time but addons it's a real pain having to work with out them mainly projectiles are like the top of my list of entities that need to be un-hardcoded

[rough path]

😄 Dolhpins being second right? Right?

[manic tinsel]

Surrrrrre (Iron Golems for me :P)

[prisma steeple]

forced to make a custom physics solution to have anything semi-reliable

[manic tinsel]

Kinda I have been luck not to have had too much need of projectiles in addon work but I have seen when they fail and it hurts

[languid tinsel]

Stuart shoots down add-on ideas that have projectiles? 😂

[manic tinsel]

Nah just haven't had many addons with them in yet 😛 we did have one in monster food though that I made and it works...ish

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-17550107775956741096

[celest sluice]

I can't wait for preview 2025!

[charred ocean]

what's it going to be? I probably assume a last beta for 1.21.60

[wet shell]

More deferred goodies when

[fringe island]

in fact, normally the standard is 5 betas, we only had 3 so far with 1.21.60

[twin stag]

entities joining raids shouldn't be locked behind runtime id's

the component that illagers use just doesn't work until you use one of the illagers for runtime

[tribal torrent]

preview day tomorrow?

:doggysmurkW:

[foggy isle]

🎉 🎉 WEEK!!!

[zenith aspen]

banana tomorrow or next week?

[foggy isle]

this week

YAYYYYY

[wintry lantern]

hope we get ore-ui in resource packs in 2025
maybe with the inventory changes?

[elfin flower]

imagine.

[rough path]

A lit of things shouldnt be locked behind runtime ids...henxe we need them removed ASAP and entities be fully data driven and exposed.

[elfin flower]

if i could somehow have those inventory and hotbar ore-ui assets

i might actually recreate them with json-ui

[wintry lantern]

I can give them to ya :)

[fringe island]

This in 2050 xs

[prisma steeple]

all the good stuff I want is runtime id'ed

solid collisions, no shadow, proper projectile physics

[rough path]

New teaser from Mojang?

https://x.com/Minecraft/status/1876668801393344529

Minecraft (@Minecraft) on X

🪨🪨👀👀

Twitter · Jan 7, 2025, 4:34 PM

Alt text says: Lodestone

[wintry lantern]

lodestone finally getting a proper use

[limber tiger]

What

Lodestone

why

it's already a thing

[rough path]

Lodestone = nether.

Legends 2 confirmed.

[limber tiger]

LMAO

so the leaks might be true then

[shadow mason]

pebbles

[celest sluice]

:D

ssoooonnn

My legs are shaking for the new preview!!

No. Wait, my legs are always shaking

[pure gull]

Spring Drop

[rough path]

https://vxtwitter.com/SmokeyStack_/status/1876675229780746553?t=L-fz96Oc-PER0zquQr0nUQ&s=19

[charred ocean]

My prediction for the next drop: vegetation and seasons update.

this also gives the reason to work on the world gen parity with grass gen on bedrock.

[elfin flower]

no way

they're adding realistic stone to minecraft

[limber tiger]

and the fact that the leaves tint is broken

in the latest preview

[balmy spire]

holy peak.

[charred ocean]

yes

all of this would come together actually

[wet shell]

Perfect drop to add deferred to aswell

Minecraft: realism drop

All kinds of new features like falling leaves and other realistic stuff added to Minecraft + deferred rendering on bedrock

[muted widget]

Steve and Alex's kid...

😭

[tribal torrent]

lodestone in piglin bastions update

and leaves update

[eternal shoal]

My kids? :0

[plush wedge]

It's really sad, a good system is one that saves you time implementing things. Components must not be, since it's evidently faster for them to just hardcode unique behaviors and ignore the component system unless there is sufficient time and motivation to sink into porting them to it.

[limber tiger]

https://x.com/harristic_/status/1876711413361655919?s=46

harri (@harristic_) on X

btw the autumn leaves emoji got removed from the tiktok caption

Twitter · Jan 7, 2025, 7:24 PM

[fringe island]

[tribal torrent]

preview day in less than one hour?

:doggysmurkW:

[sleek grail]

We're clearly getting falling leaves in every biome

[wintry lantern]

Happy preview day

[zenith aspen]

[foggy isle]

HAPPY DAY!!!

[warm shale]

preview. 👁️

I can't wait to see what Mojang has made, I'm excited

[foggy isle]

No deferred update😢

[elfin flower]

[hoary forge]

🍌

[past wharf]

If seasons are real I would really want to see the cold biomes especially the frozen ocean where they could fix a huge disparity

[sonic musk]

damn java got the global warming already

bedrock is truly behind

[upbeat surge]

preview today? any news?

[azure spade]

When Preview?

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is with great honour to announce that it might be preview day

When do Previews usually happen?

Previews usually occur on a Wednesday or Thursday between <t:1703692800:t> and <t:1703700000:t>

Jan 8, 2025, 12:02 AM

[twin stag]

:O

[hoary forge]

Banana day

[twin stag]

[past wharf]

Earth easily wins

[past wharf]

Earth now vs in 1940

[tribal torrent]

look guys antarctica got colder

[past wharf]

daltonian guy

new form of climatoscepticism

[wet shell]

Oh boy

[charred ocean]

oh boy

[wet shell]

I quite do say we could quite possibly be getting some new deferred goodies

[charred ocean]

we will. It just needs time as it's the engine modifications

[wet shell]

Wdym

[charred ocean]

making changes in a graphics engine takes time

for ex. renderdragon

[wet shell]

Oh

I mean I can see they’re already making changes in render dragon

Why?

Cause android players were saying how render dragon performance is now better than hal

We’re in the right direction boys

[charred ocean]

yes this includes performance too

Performance is the main priority for any game in general

if a game isn't performant then it's useless to play

[past wharf]

less comfortable*

but this discomfort can be compensate with awesome graphics for example

[charred ocean]

yes. but let's say you are getting only like 1-2fps and game is freezing and is taking mins or even hours to do a simple action. Then sometimes it's useless to play as well (in a point of view as a gamer)

yes, as a dev it would be not only discomfort but gives a ton of work to make performant

[elfin flower]

i hope that they fix some multiplayer related stuff especially players.

30~ players on a single server is enough to lag mid-range devices even the player is not rendered.

[past wharf]

no but 1-2 fpss is unplayable lol

I spoke more about 30fps

[oak sinew]

End update

[rough path]

Snapshot should be soon.

[tribal torrent]

preview hour this hour?

:doggysmurkW:

[rough path]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-25w02a

[tribal torrent]

snapshot day today

:doggysmurkW:

[simple steppe]

huh

[celest sluice]

Hooray!

And they made the pale garden biome bigger too

[rough path]

Embed fail.

[simple steppe]

huh²

this look weird ngl

[odd onyx]

pretty cool but why pigs

lots of random stuff lul

[tribal torrent]

awww blushing pig

[simple steppe]

now that leaves spawn particles
bushy leaves may be possible

[tribal torrent]

mansions spawn there too now guys

pale mansion?

but finally some ambience i guess

what i thought the wild update would be

[simple steppe]

Garden Awakens 2.0

[prisma niche]

#1321511857646731365 This aged well.

[simple steppe]

fr

[tribal torrent]

they used your pack obviously

[celest sluice]

Lol

[tribal torrent]

[celest sluice]

They look like autumn leaves

They sound like autumn leaves too

[tribal torrent]

the trees are littering

[simple steppe]

the leak teaser was unnecessary tbh

[tepid trout]

Pigga

[tribal torrent]

idk if that color of leaves fits?

[celest sluice]

Cold pig

[tribal torrent]

end pig

[celest sluice]

Well to be fair. The leaves can't be on the ground without being dead first

[tepid trout]

They look goofy asf

[simple steppe]

hence why the screenshot wasn't in plain biome lol

[tribal torrent]

hmm true that

[tribal torrent]

yeahhh idk if dead leaves would be that color

like that quick idk

cuz when the leaves fall they can generate the litter right

so idk it would seem strange, would be better to match the color

[simple steppe]

yeah
it is not like the particle lifetime is that long

[tepid trout]

Mojang supports littering? Yoo

[rough path]

HAHAHAHAHA.

[prisma niche]

It's not funny :(

[tepid trout]

they're blocks? Not particles?

[celest sluice]

They're blocks

Like cherry petals

[oak sinew]

Precooked bacon

[celest sluice]

Wait. Does anyone have seeds with small pale gardens? A comparison must be made

[hoary forge]

Shuddup

[rough path]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[prisma niche]

youre mean :(

[hoary forge]

Kinda weird they decided to update pigs instead of something like cows but not bad!

[rough path]

How it feels to bully the mods.

[hoary forge]

boooooooooo

[rough path]

More like

Moooooo

[celest sluice]

I'm loving the new iron sounds!

Pretend you can hear pictures

[willow sequoia]

sounds fantastic

[oak sinew]

I made a dryad boss who makes green leaf particles as she travels fast. I realized it looked kind of weird, so I made the the leaves slowly fade to a rusty red and brown before despawning.

I kinda wish Mojang took a similar approach here, though I guess that doesn't really fit the minecraft style

[celest sluice]

So now we wait for the Minecraft preview

[charred ocean]

but cannot expect some big or new

the .60 is coming near to end

[sleek grail]

Literally called it

[undone crane]

ap stuff still maybe?

[celest sluice]

🍪

[willow sequoia]

Hopefully they don't remove herobrine

[half depot]

This snapshot is pretty cool

[tepid trout]

Herobrine is removed

[tepid trout]

then they dropped. CUSTOM COMMANDS

But I doubt it.. lmfoa

[heady sable]

Why is it so cute 😍

[quasi wedge]

Didn't know Poggy was hired by Mojang to add falling leaves

[stoic orchid]

Good morning friends!

[celest sluice]

Yellow!

[wet shell]

W game drop

And it’s not all of the features

[rough path]

I guess this confirms Preview today and not tomorrow?

[undone crane]

perhaps

[half depot]

Good morning!

[celest sluice]

Would it?

[stoic orchid]

Today is looking good!

[rough path]

It actually confirms we're getting air tag.

[wet shell]

Plz have deferred goodies in todays preview

[rough path]

But now that I said that, kayla is delaying the preview to Saturday.

[celest sluice]

A flower better not getting to the Machine™️

[rough path]

But we can blame Navi for that.

[tepid trout]

Heyyo

[undone crane]

so like never?

[stoic orchid]

No Preview for you!

[wet shell]

☹️

[celest sluice]

Don't worry. Kayla meant specifically Smokey

[prisma niche]

😔

[wet shell]

Imagine toggleable waving leaves get added into the vanilla game

[prisma niche]

I was so proud of my falling leaves 😔

[wet shell]

Hey atleast you can predict the future now

[prisma niche]

yep!

[wet shell]

[celest sluice]

🫂

You should be hired for compensation

[wet shell]

We should get waving leaves in deferred for compensation

Or better clouds

Only one hour left til preview btw

[prisma niche]

Would we ever get deferred stuff?

[wet shell]

Imagine preview on switch today

Imagine deferred on switch

[heady sable]

@stoic orchid Which pig out of the 3 is your favorite.. my is the cold one 😍

[celest sluice]

Lol, no

[wet shell]

Your right

That’s too much

How about Chromebook

[celest sluice]

chromebook doesn't have beta?

[wet shell]

Cough cough android apk cough cough

[heady sable]

That's like running android beta on Linux

[wet shell]

[undone crane]

sue mojang fr

[proven wolf]

Preview Day

[random karma]

lack of preview

maybe in 52 minutes

[wintry lantern]

Hope there are new scripting features

[rough path]

😱 Dynamic properties for every letter in item lore.

[rich vault]

There could be more added in the upcoming previews

[willow sequoia]

Don't tempt me

[wintry lantern]

Dynamic properties holding a ContainerSlot (or ItemStack)🤯

[rough path]

Funnily enough we were discussing that with Navi and snapshotting entities in OSS.

[wet shell]

Imagine deferred teaser

[willow sequoia]

Item stacks in dynamic properties would be a dream

[rough path]

#makeblockandentityconstructorpublic

[random karma]

YES

YES PLEASE

[tepid trout]

Today is the release of the preview?

[proven wolf]

Good days, Nice previews

yep

maybe

Java snapshot has already been released

[quasi wedge]

erm why is leaf litter all brown when there are no brown leaves

[fringe island]

Banana?

[random karma]

Because they're totally adding seasons

totally guys

I swear

[half depot]

This would be crazy. Procedural seasons or something

[celest sluice]

because they're dead leaves

[half depot]

I'd love to see more leaf color variants

[quasi wedge]

There can be green fallen leaves

[half depot]

Like stuff like this would be really cool

More leaf variety 🙏

[random karma]

okay in all seriousness

I really don't like the leaf litters

[quasi wedge]

LITTERING, IN MY GAME?

[random karma]

them being absolutely everywhere and another reskinned pink petal

[celest sluice]

Sure. I'm looking outside right now. There are a few green leaves on the ground. But it's almost all dead, brown leaves

[random karma]

it's just . . . not interesting

[celest sluice]

So perhaps what could be done is you could craft green leaves litter from leaves blocks or something

[random karma]

yes, that would be great

and if they stacked liek snow

[heady sable]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/new-year-new-testing-features Bedrock gets 4 new features, Java 6 new features

[undone crane]

what are they cuttoing out i wonder

[marble karma]

Bruh

[celest sluice]

I don't think it's about cutting anything about, but what they were able to implement and ship for testing

[half depot]

I think they add some variety to forests. But i wouldnt mind seeing some new forest types with these instead along with like moss carpets etc

[heady sable]

So leaves, pigs, wildflowers, lodestone
Java gets name tagging creaking and bigger Pale-garden biomes...?

[undone crane]

thath would make sense

[random karma]

It would add more variety to forests but it does not because they're everywhere

[agile matrix]

HAPPY PREVIEW DAY

[celest sluice]

They're not in every biome with trees

Just these three

[random karma]

mhm, I'd read

[pure gull]

Do I really think that wildflower meaning a "blue-yellow" flower?

[dreamy bison]

All three ambient features are out today in Java snapshot now! Falling leaf particles are out in Bedrock preview and beta, and soon you'll be able to test leaf litter and wildflowers too.

leaf and wildflowers left out it seems

[marble karma]

💀

[undone crane]

hmm okay weird

[wet shell]

Why is that

[celest sluice]

They might not have been able to properly implement it in time

[wet shell]

Probably

[rough path]

Also...it's likely an experimental toggle so they'll fully implement in .70.

[agile matrix]

what the HECK

[undone crane]

it was not on java so problay not

[rough path]

Because Java's update cycle is different than ours.

Need I remind you that Java's pale garden was experimental but for Bedrock it was not.

[undone crane]

oh yea we get more stable versions

[proven wolf]

I'm wondering that since the new version has updated the new pigs, is it possible to update the pig's animation?

[eternal shoal]

Preview is on IOS

[celest sluice]

Hooray!

No changelog though

[proven wolf]

oooooo

[eternal shoal]

🤷‍♀️

[proven wolf]

it's coming

[undone crane]

button eaten again

[rough path]

My bad y'all.

[celest sluice]

refreshing the page constantly

[rough path]

I'm a hungry boy.

[simple badger]

[quasi wedge]

There cannot be people doing that, how do you have the time in the day to sit there and spam refresh

[random karma]

You are the reason there are inconsistencies with custom block solidity.

[celest sluice]

Hehe

[rough path]

If it's solid of course I'm going to eat it. Duh.

[celest sluice]

I have nothing better to do

[proven wolf]

waiting for changelog

[rough path]

Timezones.

[celest sluice]

Eat your mouse

[proven wolf]

it's been an hour past

[quasi wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-15446602901786973981

[rough path]

I rather not have to use a touchpad please.

[undone crane]

dam i refrsehd so much thath i got blokced

[celest sluice]

Consider it punishment for eating the button

[rough path]

I have played MC with just a touchpad using m for left click and n for right click.

[peak idol]

Yo where's the preview in the forum?

[proven wolf]

I've played minecraft on my android phone(and only could play on that sevice for some reason) few years ago

[peak idol]

people been talking about a preview but i still don't see the link there 😭

[undone crane]

it comes when changelog

[peak idol]

ye where's that changelog

[undone crane]

eaten

[proven wolf]

changelog is still in mojang's office

[willow sequoia]

Probably in 7 minutes here

[peak idol]

Lol

[proven wolf]

Mission one: Rescue changelog

[peak idol]

normally the changelog comes before the update on devices

[undone crane]

ios has update befor chnagelog a lot of times

[peak idol]

Lol

[celest sluice]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/33310018457741-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-21-60-25

[wet shell]

NO DEFERREE GOODIES

[quasi wedge]

Can someone see if the leaves in the snow biome that turn spruce leaves white have white leaf particles?

[eternal shoal]

No Deferred changes

I'm gonna cry

[zenith aspen]

[foggy isle]

[willow sequoia]

No itemstack dynamic properties

[wet shell]

Chef emoji def means something

[foggy isle]

Ayyyyy deferred is cooking

[zenith aspen]

no

[wet shell]

Deferred will definitely be cooking if they hire vexbolts

W mojang

[hasty grotto]

vexbolts?

[foggy isle]

Yes

Vexbolts?

[wet shell]

The guy that made the let him cook meme

And got mass unfollowed

[foggy isle]

I see

G

I want 1.21.70

[eternal shoal]

okay, now I'm excited

[celest sluice]

He reveals himself in emojis

[tribal torrent]

it must be something big

[foggy isle]

I only want aa point lights shadow

For now

Or is it called filters?

[tribal torrent]

caustics

[wet shell]

I want waving leaves and better/custom clouds

[tribal torrent]

someone take a dive and see if there’s anything undercoverly new

[wet shell]

Smokey put something out

But it’s just called “deferredwater”

[tribal torrent]

hmmmmmm

underwater buffs?

caustics buffs?

[rough path]

#1326595546504237057

[foggy isle]

Better Clouds hmmmm

[wet shell]

Huh?

Did I hear better clouds?

[elfin flower]

black screen when

[foggy isle]

There's may have other way to make better clouds than volumetric clouds

[wet shell]

Cubemaps

Upgrading the vanilla clouds

[foggy isle]

Hmmmm

[wet shell]

for me it should be animated cubemaps

I’ve seen some good stuff with animated cubemaps

[foggy isle]

Cubemaps can't do animated

Sadly

[wet shell]

Yeah but mojang can add it

[foggy isle]

G

[warm shale]

no seasons... 😢

[wet shell]

Well atleast we got falling leaves

That’s actually a pretty good feature in the vanilla game tbh

[warm shale]

I hope the podzol biome has them everywhere, covering 80% of the ground
-# that was a suggestion hehe

[limber tiger]

So you think we will get more than what we got v

?*

[tropic chasm]

This new preview really matched Survival Craft huh?

https://youtu.be/430O4IIXx6Y?si=Qja9Yb8kzq3grB0G&t=13

[warm shale]

I couldn't believe it when I saw this

[limber tiger]

Mojang better have more stuff planned

We can’t get just this

That would make absolutely no sense

[celest sluice]

When have we gotten a game drop that added all of its features in the first snapshot?

[quasi wedge]

Erm, a preview might as well be the live version of the game

[junior scarab]

I love they look and sounds of that game, sounds and looks very oldschool/ ps1-2 like, but i know if i installed that high resolution texture, Even if it's only for an axe, My Game would crash

Speaking of survivalcraft, theres a texture pack that makes the ítems in your hand look upright, like this, do anyone off You know it?

[junior scarab]

Found it, but its for java

[white fractal]

yes, it turns white as well

(see the one at the right for example)

[simple steppe]

dev build, tried it when it got leaked

tbh f3 screen is something that should not exist in survival
or at lest shouldn't be a "most have", maybe they can make most of those into a survival mechanic or something

[hoary forge]

Sorry, but let’s probably not bring that topic up as it’s not allowed here.

[rough path]

https://bsky.app/profile/dlonking.bsky.social/post/3lfbhma4ajk2e

Huge if true.

Dylan (@dlonking.bsky.social)

Surprise Realms service side fix today:

Previously Realms would sometimes not persist settings updates made via in-game slash commands across sessions. This is no longer the case!

Now you don't need to run commands every time you log in to adjust settings (or set up a command block to do that).

Bluesky · Jan 9, 2025, 12:52 AM

[twin stag]

🔥

[tropic chasm]

Didn’t they fixed that bug like a year ago?

Because I remember experiencing it and it being fixed too

Maybe it came back

[oak sinew]

I remember that bug occurring in normal Minecraft worlds as far back as 2017-2018

I ended up having to make a startup command chain

[hoary forge]

I remember it being fixed sometime in 1.20.70

[tropic chasm]

Yeah it was fixed back then

[rough path]

Since when did the Marketplace button get replaced with Browse Add-Ons?

[celest sluice]

Oh yeah I see it too! And as the name suggests, it shows you add-ons exclusively.

[white fractal]

more ads 😩

[rough path]

"More ads" and it's the same button just renamed.

Be so for real.

[edgy abyss]

kinda makes sense tho I like it

also weird that mojang basicly disregarded addons as a alone standing product for so long and now they're centering everything around them lol

(talking about marketplace ofc)

[rough path]

This is Mojang's AI Hype train.

[edgy abyss]

true lol

[languid tinsel]

Oh that make sense when you are in world tbf!

[rich vault]

It's a smart change. A little misleading tho, as it hides the fact that it leads to marketplace and I imagine some players can click on it, even though they wouldn't do it otherwise if it was clearly stated that it opens marketplace. But ig being tricked into opening it just once is not that bad.

[elfin flower]

meanwhile the skin screen is basically a marketplace screen

[rough path]

https://x.com/Volgar/status/1877646602703196601?t=DEmFy5lbayU5nCSZhAKKNA&s=19

Oleg Kozitsyn (@Volgar) on X

@agentms_ Oh, I see how it can be interpreted this way. My answer was more about the approach of just moving every single Ore UI file under resource packs, and that's not gonna happen for the reasons mentioned above. We working on other mechanisms to do modding.

Twitter · Jan 10, 2025, 9:20 AM

[rich vault]

I wonder how they could possibly allow editing of existing UIs in a way that wouldn't break with game updates, if that would even be an option

[rough path]

Format/min engine/lock version.

[white fractal]

yes, so they can put "sales"

[white fractal]

since current ore ui has "proprietary" telemetry

[warm shale]

I thought the texture of the new pig variant for cold biomes was acceptable, until I found out it was supposed to be fur.

[sleek grail]

Why's that an issue

[balmy spire]

cold pig is my favorite actually lol

pigs have fur irl

[rough path]

I fail to see how this is related at all. Y'all are just finding every reason to complain.

[elfin flower]

honestly doesn't seem to matter since the game itself already have telemetry.

[rough path]

https://vxtwitter.com/SmokeyStack_/status/1877749956385099886?t=TGjVOTGVDOKeWCZsSvdJlg&s=19

[elfin flower]

it's not like they did some community block collections

in return you get something i don't know what that is

[limber tiger]

what change for us ?

Mojira will stay the same so it isn't a big deal

[white fractal]

if you can open the ore ui javascript files and search for "telemetry", there are

[rich vault]

Never received any email. Is there a way to check whether I am already on a new server?

[rough path]

Again, how is this related to the OreUI modding api they're working on?

[white fractal]

so we can't even modify existing codes?

[rough path]

I haven't recieved an email as well. I think it's a gradual roll out.

[white fractal]

or just css only

[rough path]

I can ask a Mojira moderator for further clarification on how to know if youre on the new system.

[celest sluice]

Wow. Squids can drown in one block deep water

[charred ocean]

bugrock moment 💀

[celest sluice]

I know that squids are pathetic, but bedrock squids are especially pathetic

[past wharf]

disgusting for a paid game

Future minecraft pause be like:

[rough path]

Relax, all they did was change the existing marketplace button text.

[heady sable]

https://bugs.mojang.com/plugins/servlet/migration-consent You can see it in the consent page

[rough path]

@rich vault

[past wharf]

This button has nothing to do there at the first place

[rich vault]

Ty

[past wharf]

same as the advertises in the global skin

[heady sable]

All bugs will be migrated, the difference is whether your account is the "owner" of that bug and if you can keep your account data:

• Yes, keep both bug information and account information
• Yes, keep only account information
• No, don't keep anything
  That's the 3 options

[rough path]

Curious to know who becomes the owner of the unmigrated reports then.

[heady sable]

No-one I think

Or moderators will get assigned, which is what happens currently if the owner is inactive or gets deleted

But more information will be open once the migration happens. Moderators aren't allowed to tell anything about it, so we have to see

[odd onyx]

im sorry this is hilarious

i love this image

[past wharf]

someone should make a pack like that

The dream of Minecraft shareholders

[stoic orchid]

This sentiment always makes me sad. There is plenty of free content on the Marketplace for players that highlight the creativity of creators like those in this community. And the paid content supports many creators doing what they love. Marketplace allows us to invest in the platform overall and give you all cool features to use whether you are a Marketplace partner or a hobbyist distributing content through MCPEDL or other means.

[past wharf]

It makes me a sader to see children seeing advertises everywhere, in the street, on the TV, on internet and even when they asked their parents for a paid game, they see advertises.
The problem isn't that there are paid content, the problem is that a random player on the modern games always hears the words of a crooked rich man.
A player or a child that don't want to pay shouldn't hear that.
So for me, you should see what you own first in the create template, (but I am happy that the create world is dissocied with the template)
You shouldn't see advertises in the dressing room, only in the Character creator
You shouldn't see Marketplace in the pause ui.

Everything paid should be concentred in one or two paid place : The Marketplace in the title screen and in the Character creator** in order to respect people that don't want to pay **and an option to hide the paid things would be appreciated (even if something like that will never be accepted by those who have the power)

[odd onyx]

I mean if you don't want to buy something it's not really forcing you lul. And I mean in a modern world, advertising is everywhere - I don't really see why or how you could feasibly turn that off, it's just kinda there for you to interact with or ignore.

[balmy spire]

then the player just doesn’t have to pay

it’s not forcing anything

[dawn fable]

although I agree that not opening on "owned" by default is annoying

[odd onyx]

honestly that is true yeah

[celest sluice]

I noticed that you circled in the zero minecoins. Are you suggesting that they shouldn't display marketplace skins if you have no coins? From a business perspective that doesn't make sense.
At the end of the day, the point is to incentivize spending, and the skins at the bottom aren't in the way (Unlike when we had to go through the marketplace templates first before creating a new world. Glad that was changed.)

[celest sluice]

Same

[past wharf]

"Consume, consume, consume, consume, consume !!!!" Aren't who tired to "hear" that ?!
What you wrote: "And I mean in a modern world, advertising is everywhere": In the modern world, there are people that are hungry, discriminated for their color... , yes that is far less problematic but that's not because our world has so many bad things that we have to accept/endure them.
"Just kinda there for you to interact with or ignore" : If it is here and everywhere it's for a reason, in order to influence you and especially kids

[undone crane]

i as an kid didnt care about ads at all

[balmy spire]

i don’t think mojang/microsoft is going to shove advertisements and stuff in game like that

[marble karma]

Me neither

Except for nerf and lego

[balmy spire]

legos are peak

i have so many lol

[marble karma]

And I still do

[elfin flower]

people when they discovered a "ads" that take over their 10% screen

[celest sluice]

"Es nerf, or nada!"

I don't know why I got the spanish ads

[dusty shale]

you can just edit json ui to remove this stuff if this bothers you

no

[elfin flower]

uh you can't.

[dusty shale]

I removed the marketplace button before.

[dusty shale]

uh

[celest sluice]

JSON UI will slowly be replaced

[odd onyx]

I think it's time to calm down a tad! Bit much for here.

[balmy spire]

cover your screen with a marker lol

draw on it

[odd onyx]

get tape

[balmy spire]

trust me it works

[balmy spire]

yes

[celest sluice]

Although you can still modify Ore UI internal files. Especially on Windows

[elfin flower]

you can only get rid of marketplace button but inside from either skin screen or marketplace screen, you can't. it's possible, but guarantee that the game will eventually update a treatment packs which update those screens and make those changes utterly useless.

[past wharf]

"From a business perspective that doesn't make sense": Yes but Minecraft generates tons of money and will still probably generates tons of money even if it has a correct system of monetization

[celest sluice]

The marketplace arguably makes a large chunk of that "tons of money", so maximizing profit in that area will be a priority. As long as it doesn't make it too intrusive, I'm ok with it

[past wharf]

and I think the image of Bedrock would be better if it would have a correct system of monetization

[celest sluice]

My critism of the marketplace would include how the templates screen takes you to the marketplace pass first instead of your own templates.

[dusty shale]

lol

[marble karma]

Wait you can make your own

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-my-reaction-my-honest-reaction-meme-my-reaction-to-that-information-reaction-gif-15600378618264653600

[celest sluice]

And there isn't a good system of having trial runs like in legacy console edition

[undone crane]

these were goated

[past wharf]

For me the atual system of monetization in minecraft bedrock is too intrusive and it becomes worse with pop-up (but I can accept them because it's in the marketplace)

[native osprey]

as if marketplace doesn't created not only for ensure corporate profits(which is also a monopolized trading platform, since other methods of selling content are prohibited)

[undone crane]

i have never seen a pop up in mc

[plush wedge]

The ad spam is sad but at least it's quarantined to bedrock edition

[rough path]

That is perfectly valid. I also despise the usage of ingame currency rather than an actual 1:1 payment.

[celest sluice]

Yeahhh, I liked when the popup was just for news. Marketplace content isn't news unless it's a DLC.

[marble karma]

I have seen the ads when starting up the game

[celest sluice]

Like, the cute art style of the button is good enough imo

[elfin flower]

wait there's ads popup? never seen that before

maybe I'm the lucky one that never seen them ever lmao

[native osprey]

so there is no point in discussing this
no one will never do anything about it
and defending something like this makes even less sense

[undone crane]

are they really probited so u cannt put a pack on patreon for example?

[native osprey]

yes

eula has been banning this since recently

[plush wedge]

No

[celest sluice]

putting it behind a paywall technically counts as selling it though, no?

It's like when that ocean physics mod was behind paywall too

[undone crane]

i think its still is partially

[elfin flower]

kinda silly tbh.

[past wharf]

I think there are tons of things to change in the bedrock monetization for example you should have one more step "Do you really want to buy that ?" and also new options for creator, for example allowing creator to purpose demo (temporal or not) and also they should have the right to purpose a "a refund system", for example a creator places a one-hour refund on his map, if the consumer does not like the map and decides to leave it and requests a refund, he will be half refunded (or a little less).
And of course these tags will be displayed next to the product

[celest sluice]

Speaking of confirmation, an "add to cart" functionality would be cool too. If they're gonna keep minecoins, then it would be more efficient for the consumers if they bought a set of items in one go. Leaves less room for "wasted minecoins"

And especially useful for the character creator since you can't easily mix and match items without purchasing them first

[past wharf]

yes

or for example for the character creator, multiple color objects like that, a research system, tags....

there are tons of things to do

[hasty grotto]

beautiful

[native osprey]

there is and never was a soul in this
the kayla answer looks the strangest
a typical template answer, as if someone expected to hear something different

[past wharf]

For me the fact that marketplace is a monopolized trading platform isn't a problem because it's their game and it doesn't affect a random player

[native osprey]

i mean it will never get better

[past wharf]

Ah ok

[celest sluice]

That's some accusation you're throwing out there.

I know we joke about kayla being a GPT, but dude...

[heady sable]

Also it is a great way for people to earn money by making Minecraft content. It's accessible for all platforms, which is also a great bonus.

[past wharf]

Just my problem isn't with the existence of a marketplace but some executions and the advertises around

[heady sable]

I can understand that, there are some things I would like to see improved, but I'll wait for them to revamp the marketplace with the new Ore-UI

[native osprey]

nope
i don't wanna
it's just more in style "the same template answer"
I just found it strange, I've never seen developers mention marketplaces in that context before

[heady sable]

In what context?

[native osprey]

in the context of approval/disapproval

[stoic orchid]

I can assure you my reply wasn't a "template answer".

[quasi wedge]

I don't think the monetization system for the marketplace is anything close to egregious and it's ad placements make sense. It targets areas of the game where people will go to without directly impacting gameplay. While you can question the quality control of some of the content, I believe it has improved a lot recently.

[stoic orchid]

I welcome discourse on how we can make Marketplace better. We all know we have lots of work to do here. But what I find disheartening is conversation in this community that seems to want Marketplace to not exist. Which frankly is counter-productive to what you all want. That's my personal opinion.

[quasi wedge]

My only feedback is to do the opposite of what Riot Games has done

[native osprey]

okay

[past wharf]

Yes some people in the community (especially in the java community) show bad faith

But my feedback isn't like that

[native osprey]

i don't find it bad or strange
condemning the existence of the marketplace has never been considered a bad thing in the community

[past wharf]

? In the french community it is "MoDs ShOuLD bE fReE" , especially said by those who didn't do anything

Maybe I am biaised

[native osprey]

most of the Java community has always considered marketplaces a bad thing
it is normal
"mods should be free" is also not something strange, since most mods on java have always been free

[past wharf]

Huh , you contradict yourself with your first message

[willow sequoia]

He’s saying that hating on marketplace is widely accepted

[native osprey]

I want to say it was never something strange

[native osprey]

[past wharf]

Sorry my english sucks and I do 3 things now

Idk making things takes time and it's understandable that you should have an official platform to purpose the paid content that you made.

[rough path]

Will we get UV lock for block geometry in 2025.

Bringing this up because someone reminded me how I implemented custom stairs(horribly). #1067876948858118185 message

[stoic orchid]

It's on our roadmap. Can't speak to when it'll land.

[rough path]

🙏 Amazing! Glad to hear! I believe that's all the UV stuff(aside animations). We got UV rotation last year as well. Would it make sense for entities to have UV lock as well for "parity"?

[stoic orchid]

We are focusing on Block stuff currently.

[rough path]

Glad to hear. Wanted to know whether we should expect it like UV rotation where it was rolled out to entities first.

[languid tinsel]

It's saddening to see "marketplace bad, it should not be a thing" as opposed to "The marketplace has problems, this would improve it"
The Marketplace does give really great opportunities for creators to make a career of something they love. Heck Gamemode One, a marketplace partner, turned 7 years old today.

[rough path]

? 7 years?

[half depot]

A lot of it stems from people being sick of MTX options in modern games. I don't really think the marketplace is bad. It just has a lot of issues (lack of moderation, basically copy paste content that spools on like 5 pages). Also MP stuff doesn't take away from main game development. I've seen people literally say that the marketplace is taking away mojangs time because of collabs. Mojang doesn't make these collab maps 😭

I also see "Java doesn't have to pay for these mods"

We would have to pay for Java mods if it wasn't against the EULA to make mods a paid thing

[white fractal]

this is pay to pay

[peak idol]

Joining the marketplace is very hard if you don't belong to a team that is there already

[quasi wedge]

and then you get meme teams trying to offer you below your states minimum wage

[white fractal]

and more secret rules

[charred ocean]

Even agentmindstorm did

[dusty shale]

huh

[charred ocean]

he made a marketplace hider pack didn't he?

[dusty shale]

I dont know who that is.

[eternal shoal]

To make marketplace a better place, let me put my very high quality deferred pack in there and I'll love marketplace 🥰

But being serious, i don't like content in there and the lack of comment section

[eternal shoal]

But that would work too

[shadow mason]

I believe the Marketplace has created more opportunities than it has harmed the community. While there are studios churning out the ninth security addon, the twentieth anime skin pack, or focusing solely on porting popular brands to Bedrock, there are also many unique and creative studios producing top-quality content. The number of jobs generated is remarkable, and it’s inspiring to see more people earning a living wage by creating content they’re passionate about.

That said, there are significant structural issues with the Marketplace. Building studios in an environment where much of the community consists of "children" is challenging, and the system itself doesn’t help with its obscure and often privileged first-party studio setup and a confusing, opaque application process. The internal competition between studios is also disheartening, with some actively poaching developers and gatekeeping knowledge (via eg. obfuscation). These practices, combined with questionable legal tactics from certain studios, only add to the problems

[obsidian lark]

I was talking to a couple Mojira mods yesterday about the REST API and they said there might be changes. However, I did my own research and didn't see a big difference. It's just something to keep an eye on since we're both using the API.

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if they start requiring personal access tokens. The annoying thing about those is that they expire after a year.

[charred ocean]

yeah. Also the ability to publish solo content without a studio would be amazing. Just like a guy making an idie-game

people (even like-me) could become a solo mp partner

the existing studios can publish content but giving a chance for solo marketplace devs wouldn't be bad

[rich vault]

All marketplace content is gatekept by default, because of encryption. The thing is that it doesn't do a very good job at it, so some studios add their own layer of protection. Partners invest money into innovative technologies and giving them away for free doesn't make sense from a business point of view. So if you're upset that you can get around encryption but not around obfuscation, maybe you should direct that feeling towards encryption that, however ineffective it may be, still stops the majority of people, and not towards any additional measures that do encryption's job better and make it harder for you personally to reverse engineer marketplace content. Or at least become the change that you want to see and encourage your studio to open source content, if there will be more partners willing to open source their work, that would encourage other partners to do the same, and open source might become the new default. I'd much rather see a future where everything is open and accessible rather than a future where everyone is breaking encryption and reverse engineering other people's work.

[obsidian lark]

I hope that ends up happening, but too many people are obsessed with short term gain instead of spreading knowledge.

[hasty grotto]

comments sound great

too bad moderating that stuff would be its own can of worms

[quasi wedge]

Yeah that would just cause more issues, even if ai was used to moderate them

Have you ever looked at Microsoft store game reviews

[junior scarab]

So its bedrock modding going to die next update?

[half depot]

what?

huh?

where did you hear that?

if by "modding" you mean addons, no they arent going anywhere

[celest sluice]

Where did you hear that?

[prisma niche]

Wha

[heady sable]

Bro is one update late 💀🙏

[shadow mason]

They are a time traveller, from the past...

[elfin flower]

?????

[tepid trout]

bro got cooked so badly 😭

[twin stag]

?

[white fractal]

since the removal of bds's pdb file

which was in august 2024

[celest sluice]

I was thinking of that when he said that, but why was he talking about "next update"?

[peak idol]

Please Mojang expose item aux ids to script api 🙏

[obsidian lark]

Data values? Those should've never existed.

[rough path]

Counterpoint: Expand the ScriptAPI capabilities to read those components.

Asking for bandaid solultions to an already bandaid solution is crazy.

[rough path]

Appaled it did. Was it for performance reason do you happen to know?

[obsidian lark]

I believe there's a historical reason for it. I think Java ran out of IDs when they were adding wool and Jens hacked that system together.

[quasi wedge]

did anything related to player knockback via scripting get changed in one of these .60 previews?

player visibly being disconnected from their actual location when having knockback applied to them on repeat

[white fractal]

but there's a problem, item ids after 256 are not "fixed"

[cloud moon]

Technically not really

They kept increasing the limit for item ids until they removed them in 1.13

There is a mod for 1.12 that increases the amount of ids by a lot (Although I’ve heard it can let to world corruption)

[obsidian lark]

I know. That's part of the reason why beds are tile entities on Java.

[hasty grotto]

did they do the same on bedrock?

i remember a bug with beds becoming invisible when they first introduced coloured beds

[sleek grail]

I believe beds have (or had) a client entity file

[peak idol]

wdym by not fixed

[tepid trout]

The values of vanilla items switched/changed when there's a custom one.

[peak idol]

Yeah ik

and that's why exposing that to script api would be useful

because we could get that aux values

even if they change

...

[celest sluice]

A better solution would be components that give us the extra information about the item directly. This is already being done with enchantments and potion effects (beta).

[obsidian lark]

But why do you even need them?

[obsidian lark]

Just checked and they're tile entities on Bedrock too.

[sleek grail]

Probably to render it with JSON UI

[celest sluice]

JSON UI will be deprecated anyway, so ultimately that's not something they should be focusing on.

[rough path]

You know what else will be deprecated. Runtime IDs and blocks.json. Trust. Before 2030 🙏

[devout barn]

I don't see blocks.json getting deprecated anytime soon :P

[willow sequoia]

Next update we need blocks.json to define behaviours, trust

[sleek grail]

Maybe, but they have said they don't want to keep it

Who knows, Kayla said they're focusing on blocks, might happen this year

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/shoebill-bird-rain-beautiful-gif-18429868

[fringe island]

I discovered this, should this be considered a bug?

[rough path]

No. See:

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/30892949042189-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-21-50-20
https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/30921464230925

[fringe island]

If I exit and re-enter the world I can enable and disable the keep inventory option

[fringe island]

I just can't do it when I create the world and change the difficulty which disables the keep inventory by default, then for some reason the option gets stuck

[rich vault]

Hopefully not before fully data driving all hardcoded behaviours and implementing replacements for all unique features from blocks.json including modifying vanilla block geos

[sleek grail]

minecraft:client_block

Do we know the reason behind stuff like material_instance and geometry being server side components?

[rough path]

The more I think about it, the more I want context placement rather than just check if a block is just solid or not. There are scenarios where I want to place things under and the back side of a stair but not anywhere else. https://discord.com/channels/1138536747932864532/1249768291384426546

[rotund pivot]

I know I'm late to the conversation, but my issues with the marketplace :

1. It should be 1:1 transaction, not via in game currency like what smokeystack said

2. Console players would like to have access to free add-ons and skins.

Console players wanted skin editor, that let's you draw your skin pixel by pixel

Not character creator

3. I have a problem, when MTX additions take priority over needed QoL additions

Mobile players for YEARS asked for in-game switch perspective button, but they had the AUDACITY to add emote button in place of it

[celest sluice]

How would that work on platforms with limited internet and file access?

[rough path]

New Bok Teaser
https://vxtwitter.com/0x00716F62/status/1878842478713085965?t=qtWIhOBLpHGDhX-VbQMYKQ&s=19

Jealous of animated items.

[sleek grail]

Can you add weapons breaking shields to your addon parity list

[rough path]

[rough path]

Does axe tag not work?

[sleek grail]

Last I'd checked it didn't

But Idk when that was so, worth checking

[languid tinsel]

MTX additions?

[rotund pivot]

Yes like emotes.

And character creator.

Who tf asked for that

Console players wanted true custom skins

We wanted in game skin editor that allows you to draw your skin pixel by pixel

[languid tinsel]

What does MTX stand for? Oh Micro Transactions?

[rotund pivot]

Yes

Who tf asked for emotes

Mobile players wanted switch perspective button

Not stupid emote button

[languid tinsel]

Given how popular emotes are on other platforms I imagine quite a few players wanted emotes to be fair 😄
But either way the team who added emotes is not the same team to add vanilla features like a perspective switch button

[celest sluice]

I frequently use emotes in servers

Not to downplay a perspective button for mobile btw

[devout barn]

I heavily dislike character creator in its implementation, it is incredibly buggy and unresponsive much of the time. So much paid stuff also which is just overwhelming
But the worst part is not being able to use character creator items on classic skins, it's basically useless to me then
Its a shame, it's a good concept and it allows console players to customize their skin beyond skin packs

And I'd be okay with the promotions for character creator as well if it meant I could use it with my classic skin, but nope

I'm a person who would like to use the character creator, but it's just unusable for me rn

[past wharf]

Console players also want more controller sentivity

Not java passive mob spawning 😑

[celest sluice]

Can't we already increase that?

Do you mean more controller customization options like deadzone?

[past wharf]

The max sensibility of 100 is too slow

[celest sluice]

I don't remember my current sensitvity options, but I'm pretty sure I had it way lower than that. Oh well. Guess it's just preference.

[quasi wedge]

mine has always been at the default

[celest sluice]

And also, there's no reason why we can't have both. These are managed by two different teams after all

[quasi wedge]

which console players want to scale controller sensitivity even more?

[past wharf]

For playing building, survival it's ok but for pvp you are just too slow

After , pvping with a controller is impossible

[celest sluice]

Would that really help though. When it's fast you also would have much harder time aiming wouldn't you?

You're trading speed for precision

[past wharf]

Why can't you have both ?

Lul

No but it's a criticism I saw on youtube

[celest sluice]

I don't think that's how it works... But what do I know. I'm not good at pvp anyway 🤷‍♂️

[past wharf]

I said that because apparently java passive mobs spawning sucks

[celest sluice]

You know, it's funny

It's java mob spawning that I've seen being wanted for quite a while.

[weary galleon]

I want Java passive mob spawning and I play Bedrock

[celest sluice]

And in a very specific situation, Prowler. The same one who pointed out the flaws of Bedrock spawn mechanics for farms compared to Java, doesn't one Java spawning on Bedrock now

[past wharf]

Mmhh

[celest sluice]

Where did this 180 come from?

[past wharf]

It reminds me agentmindstorm

The guy that want java in bedrock

And his bugs are patched

While there are tons of bigger issues

☠️

(otherwise his tweets are cool)

[rough path]

He never said that.

He specifically was referring to hostile spawning.

Hell, most people when thinking of mob spawning parity usually refer to hostile, not passive or structure spawns.

[quasi wedge]

I don't really like most of Prowler's takes

[celest sluice]

Isn't that what you usually refer to when it comes to mob farms?

[rough path]

And what do mob farms usually refer to? Hostile mob farms.

[celest sluice]

We're agreeing here

[rough path]

So then not sure why you said Prowl is doing a 180 when he isn't.

[celest sluice]

So it's a case of "I want parity, but not like this"

[rough path]

Is that so wrong? We all want parity, but not always Java parity.

[celest sluice]

Well no, it's not.

[heady sable]

There are free add-ons and skins. In the search bar there is an option to select for Free stuff and you can also sort from "low-to high prices"

[celest sluice]

I for one like Bedrock's structure spawns for instance

In fact, it was my first concern when they first started talking about spawn parity

[heady sable]

I think everyone would love that, but there are flaws for that (inappropriate skins)

[heady sable]

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean other players can't enjoy it

If you really hate it, remove it with a texture pack or remove the keybind

[celest sluice]

If they're really going all out for parity with Java, that will mean that farms that depend on these structure spawns will not only need to be redesigned (naturally), but will require more work to create since the mobs can spawn anywhere instead of at specific coordinates.

[heady sable]

Bedrock spawns are more spread out, while Java's are most concentrated. Due to the split caps on Bedrock, it allows the surface to have mobs and the cave to have mobs (and not interfere)

[heady sable]

They will become faster though

It will allow for multi level spawning

[celest sluice]

Can we compare a guardian farm between Java and Bedrock?

I only know the Bedrock one

[heady sable]

Currently they select the highest spawnable spot within the structure's bounding box and stop when a spawn is successful.
If they end up moving away from one single spot to an area it should hopefully also allow multiple levels to spawn

[celest sluice]

Don't we also have to worry about killing the mob or removing the mob as fast as possible?

[heady sable]

Some farms will not see issues with that, while others will (Witch farms will benefit, guardians may loose efficiency)

[quasi wedge]

Guardian farms haven't had decent efficiency for a long while due to Tridents randomly vanishing and getting pushed through blocks

[heady sable]

The best way they can implement it is this way (will keep both old and new farms):

• Spawn attempt is inside the structure's bounding box (HSA)
• Use "special" structure spawning rules

1. Select random x,z within the HSA
2. Try to spawn mob
3. If fail repeat process a certain amount of time (my preference is 10 repeats as it matches behavior from iron and raid spawning and has shown to be successful)
4. If success, spawn mob and decrease spawning attempt by y-1 (continuing the process until leaving the HSA)

• Return back to "environmental" spawning when leaving HSA

Also prevents normal mobs from spawning within the HSA

[heady sable]

Only happens when you log out nearby your tridents and is less present on worlds or servers run by better hardware: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-167769

that doesn't happen while running the farm itself

[onyx gulch]

(MCPE-167769) Tridents may fall through blocks when reloading

Reported by

tofuthomas

Status

To Do (Reopened)

Resolution

Unresolved

[marble karma]

I want my buttons and levers on fences back them fucking jerks

[elfin flower]

100 is NOT slow

I can't even control with that maximum sensitivity because it's going too fast.

that's like enough for mouse flick movement right there.

I've played alot of PVP with max sensitivity for entire year and it's enough to make people calling me a cheater with hardware changer because that certainly does not look like a controller player to them.

[simple steppe]

the cursor be moving by sneezing

[elfin flower]

i move the joystick by one inch and the screen going fast like 50 sensitivity already.

that is NOT slow.

[simple steppe]

i guess it depend on the device

i played with 90

pc

[elfin flower]

i played 100 exclusively on zeqa and cubecraft

i would immediately go back to 70 if i wasn't playing PVP because i can't build anything with this high

[simple steppe]

yeah, it is mostly used by speedrunner
that or making the gui small

[cloud moon]

he might mean controller

since on legacy you could make it 200%

[celest sluice]

Arxance mentioned using a joystick

[cloud moon]

Whoops

[past wharf]

Compared with keyboard and mouse it is

But what is the problem of asking for more options ?

[tepid trout]

slow? I literally have 70 and it's fast I'm on my mouse too

Wtf you mean slow?

[elfin flower]

It's not.

[past wharf]

Why for me it's faster ?

With a mouse

[elfin flower]

if you call this controller sensitivity slow, at this point just go play some quake tournament or unreal

[rotund pivot]

With legacy console editions you could go up to 200%

Also it's not just sensitivity

[past wharf]

So you clearly see that there is a difference in speed ?

[rotund pivot]

Moving your camera in general feels bad

It's nearly impossible to make small adjustment in your aim

Unless your console has built in deadzone settings

[elfin flower]

literally the same thing im talking about, WHY do you need even more FASTER controller sensitivity

you can't even aim with that already

[rotund pivot]

Stick deadzone does not have to do with sensitivity

It's possible to have high sensitivity and not have it disrupt your aim

It refers to how far you have to pull joystick before it registers

And on bedrock it's TOO high

Once again just because you don't personally have issue with it it doenst mean others feel the same

Which is a flaw I notice every time I argue with you

'Just because I don't have an issue with it, others must not'

[elfin flower]

okay so you're bringing up some another irrelevant stuff, yep this sums up why are you blocked.

[rotund pivot]

As if I care if I'm blocked???

Lol

[elfin flower]

this is more like casual players, not pros.

as i care for your argument

[rotund pivot]

Oh noooo this random guy on discord blocked me, what will I do.

[past wharf]

Personnaly I play with 100 by default when I try to use my controller (and I didn't know that was the fastest I could go)

[rotund pivot]

You clearly do if you keep opening blocked messages

[elfin flower]

"mojang pls add perspective button" for everyday yeah totally sums up

[rotund pivot]

Because we do need it?

[elfin flower]

100 is already enough. can't even aim bow with this imo

[rotund pivot]

Mobile community has been asking for that for literal years?

[elfin flower]

oh no more blocked messages what should i do

[rotund pivot]

Do you have ANY consideration for others?

[elfin flower]

[rotund pivot]

Just because you don't have an issue with something, it doenst mean others don't too?

What would it hurt to allow for higher sensitivity setting?

It's literally giving players additional option for those who need it?

Why are you so hell bent on bedrock not improving 😭

[past wharf]

Some people play with mouse max sensitivity, personnaly I don't like it but some people play with

[rotund pivot]

^

[past wharf]

Also it's impossible to aim with for me

[rotund pivot]

WHO would it hurt to allow for higher sensitivity

[elfin flower]

i don't see what's wrong with adding some improvements, I'm not even against it but jesus christ you're just playing quake but block game

[rotund pivot]

Then don't have it that high lmao

If you don't like it stick with 100

Don't get so bent over Mojang giving an option for those who want it higher

Do you have ANY social skills whatsoever.

[elfin flower]

hey mojang downgrade the sensitivity

[rotund pivot]

fails to understand that others may have different needs than them
blocks them when someone points that out

[elfin flower]

keep trying tbh

again, I'm don't see what's wrong with adding some stuff and not being against it but you kinda took it too serious like life threatening situations

it's not that deep.

[past wharf]

Personnaly it makes me mad when I see parity changes that make the game less cool and not that

So I am a little like him x)

[elfin flower]

personally i do not care.

probably already biased being a controller player

it'll be cool to see deadzone stuff nonetheless

[oak sinew]

Looking back through this conversation, I don't see the sense of urgency that you're making his point out to be.

It seemed pretty straightforward to me. He expressed his opinion, and the subject was over within moments up until you replied the next day.

Besides, it's not like what's being asked for is an entire game breaking change, it's just something entirely optional (literally in the options), and it affects no gameplay for anyone who isn't interested in it to begin with.
Controller sensitivity is used so that people can comfortably play their game. If someone says the sensitivity is too high or low, then they're not comfortable with the current sensitivity. People have different preferences, hence the sensitivity slider existing to begin with.

I could perfectly see you disagreeing with increasing the range based on the idea that such a sensitivity is too niche to bother, but you really can't decide what sensitivity is too high or low for someone else. And I especially don't think telling them to "stop playing Minecraft and play a Quake" is a valid answer either.
Imagine if someone asked for more crops added to Minecraft, and Mojang responded with "go play Stardew Valley then, lol."

[elfin flower]

All i literally said is the controller's max sensitivity is not slow, and i don't see any reasons why people would just go fast for no practically reasons but i never said that it shouldn't be added or improved some way or other.

I'm giving the quake references because people actually go beyond than just max sensitivity and is also really fast pace, that's why im wonder.

I never intend to be offensive or "hey let's make the game worse" or way other in the first place, you probably see alot of sarcasms in those conversations. but seriously, I don't see the point of bring it up again.

I don't either disagree or agree, since obviously i don't really care that much. not really a big deal, i see something i fix it for myself. that's the end of it.

[willow harness]

I wanted to know if anybody has reported this bug or not, if not then I'll report it I just want to know if anyone else has reported it or not. I basically pressed ESC key at 00:07 in the video, after that i am stuck in this menu and can't do anything

[rough path]

Disappointing that play_sound can only play the sound event of the entity.

[limber tiger]

New teaser

[twin stag]

wave bow

[celest sluice]

Finally. Realistic Waves

I doubt we'll see the new thing on Bedrock this week though. I think we're getting the small previews now

[fringe island]

Banana tomorrow?

[rich vault]

It's interesting that the new official teasers are fairly similar to the style of unofficial leaks that we've seen in the past (ambiguous emojis). Maybe this is a strategy to satisfy communitys desire for teasers, so that they are not encouraged to seek out or produce leaks?

[wet shell]

Bows in deferred teaser

Waving hand = waving leaves

[tepid trout]

Oh yes... You're in soft lock mode now

I think someone pointed it out already I just forgot who lol

[lunar musk]

Handbow/longbow idk lol

[silver flume]

Oh yes I sent a message about it in #off-topic

[rough path]

Experience reward for blocks when?

[quasi wedge]

you ever break a sculk block

or ore

[rough path]

Yes.

I should have clarified for custom blocks lol.

[quasi wedge]

//function to summon specified number of xp orbs
function spawnXp(count, blockLocation, dimension) {
    system.run(() => {
        for (let i = 0; i < count; i++) {
            dimension.spawnEntity("minecraft:xp_orb", blockLocation);
        }
    })
    return;
};``` 😎

[rough path]

Cringe.

Doesn't detect if destroyed by explosiom or destroyed by player using proper tools.

[quasi wedge]

why would I need to do that when there's an event js world.beforeEvents.playerBreakBlock.subscribe((eventData) => { const player = eventData.player; const block = eventData.block; const blockLocation = block.location; const item = eventData?.itemStack; eventData.cancel = miningSkillCheck(player, block, blockLocation, item) || false; })

[random karma]

That isn't stable though is it?

Would have sworn it isn't

[quasi wedge]

are any of us stable

[rough path]

Runtime IDs

[quasi wedge]

it can definitely just be a custom component at this point, and when we get parameters can be even better

that would all be stable

[willow sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/da-vinky-happy-happy-happy-happy-happy-happy-cuban-missile-crisis-da-vinky-twins-gif-7504566081041975081

[tribal torrent]

preview day today?

:doggysmurkW:

[odd onyx]

[hoary forge]

oh I completely forgot

[foggy isle]

BANANA DAY!!!!

[zenith aspen]

Today??

[foggy isle]

[wet shell]

Oh boy it’s preview day

[tribal torrent]

preview hour in two hours?

:doggysmurkW:

[lethal pumice]

Preview today?

[fringe island]

Banana day

[zenith aspen]

pineapple

[fringe island]

Snapshot today too?

[willow harness]

It's snapshot day ma dudes

[lethal pumice]

I have a small question... Is there a way to have both the beta version and the public version installed on an android device?

[willow harness]

I don't think so

[lethal pumice]

Maybe any niche workaround people might have figured out?