#General Discussion

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half depot
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but will experiment

charred ocean
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oh wait nvm

lapis sierra
prisma niche
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The bot makes a post as soon as the changelogs are public (i think)

hoary forge
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It will make a post as soon as the API updates

wet shell
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@sonic musk Wat was that

half depot
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gonna check if anything major has changed with deferred

fluid wadi
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Is there even a snapshot yet?

wet shell
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Mine still updating

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😢

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😭

prisma niche
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Reflection update

wet shell
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Cubemap support??!!!

sonic musk
prisma niche
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(totaly real)

sonic musk
half depot
charred geode
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is Thursday the new snapshot day? should we call it 24t12a?

magic fossil
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Preview when

wet shell
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On iOS

charred geode
half depot
zinc bridge
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The Java snapshot is insane

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both are insane for technical features

charred ocean
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yes

chrome plover
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Does someone know if there's a bug report for geometry.full_block rendering smaller than vanilla blocks in the inventory?

rough path
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No idea

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I need to file a few bugs regarding that component

chrome plover
lapis sierra
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It was like that with unit_cube too

ionic ocean
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The most important thing to me is that they fix the face mapping bug on full_block. 😦 That bug means I can't use that geometry. I always have to use a custom one or go back to blocks.json.

rough path
ionic ocean
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There's also the fact that a rotation bug or 2 still exists.

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They're gettin' there, though… slowly but surely.

rough path
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Actually...you know what....that might not be full_blocks fault but custom components

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So scratch that, only 1 issue i had with it rn

charred geode
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PlayerInteractWithBlockAfterEvent when?

rough path
zinc bridge
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they could've used it for icons and item frame display

rough path
willow sequoia
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^
Attachables are much better for offsets

celest sluice
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Let's make attachables better

tropic chasm
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Make geometries better

willow sequoia
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Make everything better yessir

zinc bridge
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speaking of making things better, it'd be nice if we could override cooldowns being on item use

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it's really nice we can start cooldowns with scripting, but I think it make a lot better if we could remove the default functionality

tropic chasm
rough path
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Hey @ionic ocean how would you feels if the minecraft tags component was shaped liked this? Tags would switch to Javas system we discussed while addressibg your issue of permutations.

"minecraft:tags":{
"add":[],
"remove": []
}
ionic ocean
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It's fine. I'm still partial to…

"minecraft:tags": [
  "ex:test",
  {"ex:test2": "q.block_state('ex:state')"}
]
rough path
lapis sierra
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I'm getting behind on blocks these days...

ionic ocean
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I kinda like seeing all the tags in one place, but IDK.

quasi wedge
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I dislike both of these

rough path
sonic musk
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emm
didn't know debug had vsync options
but this make sense ig

limber tiger
rough path
prisma niche
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They tryna say they did something no one else did

elfin flower
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if this server is an MMORPG then, instant favorite.

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by the look of it, they have quests/goals system too on the bottom right side of the screen

prisma niche
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Like Hypickel skyblock?

elfin flower
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yeah kinda looks like it

prisma niche
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Then I'm hooked

elfin flower
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interestingly they removed experience bar.

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that thing just doesn't exist on this server

prisma niche
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Time to be an OG and grind

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I remember cubecraft had something similar

elfin flower
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I'm really hoping that this is MMORPG server

elfin flower
prisma niche
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It was cool, but I maxed out pretty fast

elfin flower
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same

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if it MMORPG then it's probably be the first featured server to be that category.

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they also seems to unitize json-ui heavily unlike other featured server i find.

sleek grail
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But they do still largely keep it vanilla

sleek grail
zealous salmon
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json ui is something you don't want to overuse otherwise it feels too out of place

elfin flower
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but this one is quite different.

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looks like they goes full json-ui mode where everything has to be animated and must changed Including progress screen (aka world/server loading screen)

zealous salmon
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you say that but at the same time the other forms in the server are default

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so they're probably not going too over the top

elfin flower
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yeah maybe.

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pretty odd to think about it

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why animate a screen that you'll likely never seen about probably 5 seconds well nevermind i do that daily.

quasi wedge
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I've wanted Wynncraft on Bedrock for so long

sleek grail
elfin flower
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there's not much you can do here except reading infos.

tropic chasm
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Is that sever an MMORPG

wet shell
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Ye

wet shell
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Oh my goodness

rough path
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#off-topic

elfin flower
tropic chasm
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Yeah it definitely looks like one

elfin flower
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nevermind this server will appears to be pay to play.

half depot
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Oh unfortunate

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An mmorpg server actually sounds so sick too

hoary forge
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We all saw what happened to Pixel Paradise but we're gonna wait and see

elfin flower
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dame dane :(

tropic chasm
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Why is everything pay to play now days

sonic musk
tropic chasm
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fr

sonic musk
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and also it costs to run a server

wet shell
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Unlike pixel paradise and mineville where they had some free gamemodes I think this server is gonna have ZERO free gamemodes

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So you have to pay to play the ENTIRE server

prisma niche
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Yes

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really sad

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All you can do is enter the hub for free and that's it

wet shell
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HOW COULD THEY DO THAT

prisma niche
tropic chasm
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Damn they be giving a good hub experience for free ngl 10/10 incredible server

elfin flower
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iirc, the point of this server was kinda more of marketplace but live service.

wet shell
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“It’s like a marketplace map but on a server” 🤓

elfin flower
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i don't know.

celest sluice
sonic musk
tropic chasm
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I mean a mp map as a server wouldn’t be bad

prisma niche
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They boutta shut down before the year is over

tropic chasm
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But if you have to pay to play…

wet shell
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Man I had high hopes for it

elfin flower
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hearing that the server being pay to play already made me uninterested.

wet shell
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But I guarantee you not everyone is gonna pay to play a server

tropic chasm
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Poor kids

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Poor parents*

wet shell
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“Mommy can I have 20 dollars so I can pway a Minecraft server?”

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💀

prisma niche
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😭

tropic chasm
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“If you don’t get me this I will cry everywhere and say you are an abuser”

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Don’t forget we are on 2024

elfin flower
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well the server were made within 1 year so idk give them a slack i suppose

celest sluice
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It's 20 dollars? 😲

prisma niche
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How the hell does this even get approved to be a featured server?

tropic chasm
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Sure, sell extra things

elfin flower
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probably not gonna pay but gonna see what's it gonna be like

tropic chasm
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But to play?

prisma niche
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isn't this against Mojang's EULA?

celest sluice
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So from what I'm hearing, this is Pixel Paradise 2.0?

prisma niche
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OG InPvP was good

elfin flower
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basic gamemode goes paywalled.

tropic chasm
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I don’t see anything wrong in selling things like a starter kit or items

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But bro

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Why to play

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They are in bankrupt because damn

elfin flower
wet shell
prisma niche
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Only thing I'll pay for is cosmetics and ranks

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proud user of Hive+

charred ocean
wet shell
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Imagine you pay for the pass and then they stuff you with other stuff to pay

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Like kits and items

charred ocean
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with the updated version

elfin flower
prisma niche
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private or custom servers too

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and you keep the rank for life

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Hive does stuff right

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pay for a replay pass and keep it for a year, and it's cheap

elfin flower
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that's totally not pay to win /s

charred ocean
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idk how they achieved replay tho lol

prisma niche
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server plugins

charred ocean
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oh wait-

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oh yea right

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that would make sense

sleek grail
limber tiger
hasty grotto
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great job microsoft!

sonic musk
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thanks

wet shell
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Noo

gusty sedge
prisma niche
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Even then, leveling up on Hive still takes a long time

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Plus the cosmetics don't bring you any advantage

elfin flower
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yeah, doesn't make any differences even me grinding the quests all over again to see that boosted xp grinding are not that different. idk how that system works anyways

wet shell
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let’s goooo

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probably 3 if mineplex returns

gusty sedge
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I mean, the other mmo one people noticed could be the one the hives doing

elfin flower
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kinda odd tbh

plucky glade
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hi there, do someone know an contact email for mojang? I have no idea how can I contact them to solve my email not being able to login/register to the bug tracker by jira

stiff carbon
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What's the point of removing minecraft:unit_cube?

tropic chasm
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No need for it

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You can do the exact same with minecraft:full_block or simply with blocks.json

magic fossil
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Since Godzilla = Gojira

wet shell
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Preview day?

sonic musk
prisma niche
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Have to wait and see

tropic chasm
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When beta

azure spadeBOT
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When Preview?

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is with great honour to announce that it might be preview day

When do Previews usually happen?

Previews usually occur on a Wednesday or Thursday between <t:1703692800:t> and <t:1703700000:t>

wet shell
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Surprised no one’s talking

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Probably gonna be a very small preview today anyway

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😢

prisma niche
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wait is it almost time?

wet shell
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It’s 11:39 am for me

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Which is est

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Previews usually come out between 11:40 or 12:00

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For me

quasi wedge
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yes, and that means you should wait

prisma niche
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I forgot it was preview day tbh

balmy spire
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yippie

wet shell
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Might get delayed

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For tomorrow

quasi wedge
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??

wet shell
quasi wedge
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I know

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I've been here for every preview

prisma niche
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We don't know if it'll get delayed

sonic musk
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I am hopeful for SSS customization or SSR

tropic chasm
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It won’t get delayed

prisma niche
tropic chasm
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I already saw the future dw

sonic musk
tropic chasm
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I’m hoping for CONNECTABLE BLOCK TRAIT

quasi wedge
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I'm expecting the rest of the custom item components and block fix

eternal shoal
willow sequoia
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As an assistant moderator on the MC discord and having zero information on this matter, I can safely say that preview will be today.

tropic chasm
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What about custom components have to be fixed?

tropic chasm
sonic musk
quasi wedge
lapis sierra
quasi wedge
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and will make your arm swing

sonic musk
willow sequoia
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Attachable animation fix 🥹

tropic chasm
willow sequoia
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Or setlore limit increase

tropic chasm
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Everyone has a price

lapis sierra
rough path
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Preview might be delayed

lapis sierra
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Whyyy

sonic musk
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No 😭

tropic chasm
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It won’t be delayed

rough path
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It is likely this week will be the final 1.20 preview

lapis sierra
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Delayed on hours or like next week?

tropic chasm
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Sean is just trolling us

rough path
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With next week being preview 1.21.0.20

quasi wedge
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already?

sonic musk
wet shell
wet shell
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😭

quasi wedge
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Idk, we normally see Kayla in here

rough path
quasi wedge
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if preview is happening today

lapis sierra
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Sean is dev confirmed

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Air block tag when?

odd onyx
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real

rough path
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RARE SUMI SIGHTING

odd onyx
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hello gazongapear

tropic chasm
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A wild Sumiko appeared!

lapis sierra
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Sumi

prisma niche
odd onyx
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i have been present always.... watching from the shadows..

simple badger
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Hi internet people

willow sequoia
tropic chasm
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The funniest thing is that Sumi's pfp looks like a pokemon

lapis sierra
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I hope you sleep with fishes

prisma niche
tropic chasm
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Gotta catch em all!

odd onyx
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yours too ohj wait

simple badger
tropic chasm
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mines is not a pokemon 🙄

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obviously

odd onyx
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u right

sonic musk
odd onyx
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theres a lot of stuff now

simple badger
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I'm liking the features in the update so far

tropic chasm
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This is combat update 2

odd onyx
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they're pretty fun

wet shell
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Deferred is a 1.21 feature when

quasi wedge
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We're never getting the combat update Kiaoga

simple badger
rough path
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letroll

  • Removed combat
sonic musk
tropic chasm
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Literally most of what they have added modifies combat

quasi wedge
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it's not a combat update until we get sweeping edge

odd onyx
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well wolf armour and maces break pvp so

simple badger
tropic chasm
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average bedrock player reaction

prisma niche
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do I play portal 2 or wait for changelog?

odd onyx
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there goes the combat

quasi wedge
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Just give me sweeping edge

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😠

odd onyx
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sweeping mace

simple badger
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Oh lord

sonic musk
tropic chasm
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The mace doesn’t has area damage because Mojang wants to be unique

odd onyx
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oh it already does sweep

quasi wedge
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I will simply use an auto clicker

tropic chasm
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L

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can’t click by yourself

quasi wedge
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say what you will, but you aren't beating me clicking over 100 times a second

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get better at pvp

tropic chasm
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You will fail aiming

odd onyx
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carpal tunnel users

sonic musk
quasi wedge
sonic musk
tropic chasm
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I can beat you on my switch

simple badger
lapis sierra
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Hmm

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I don't believe it

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Someone else click

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Nvm lol

simple badger
quasi wedge
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It's real

chrome plover
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it's real lol

lapis sierra
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Lol

toxic horizon
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;-;

simple badger
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Lmao

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I have no idea

limber tiger
quasi wedge
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hop hop hop erupt?

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VOLCANO FROG CONFIRM

chrome plover
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ooo new features

tropic chasm
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bad omen potion

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no way mojang added a new potion

prisma niche
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new enchants

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wow

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1.21 is gonna be that update

tropic chasm
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I wasn't expecting Mojang to give us more content after pasts snapshot

prisma niche
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They need to make the mace more rare or harder to obtain tho

quasi wedge
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NO MY ADD-ON

tropic chasm
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What happened to your addon

prisma niche
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Zack lost it

quasi wedge
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I need to make another new potion

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😔

tropic chasm
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lol is not that hard

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need ideas?

quasi wedge
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okay bucko

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no

tropic chasm
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oh wait ur scripter

prisma niche
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gotta try out this snapshot

tropic chasm
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same

willow sequoia
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Make tnt potion

prisma niche
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W raid changes tbh

tropic chasm
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lets all hop in together 😎

willow sequoia
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Drink it and explode

quasi wedge
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Maces are OP holy smokes

tropic chasm
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Nether potion, instant tp to nether

prisma niche
quasi wedge
tropic chasm
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why

willow sequoia
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Oh nice

prisma niche
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1.21 is that update for sure

quasi wedge
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oh cool, even get a timer for raids on villages now

tropic chasm
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It is a combat update

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Zack just can't accept it

quasi wedge
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Gives us a chance to run out of the village in panic instead of going "gosh dang it guys I did it again"

prisma niche
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And people say mojang are lazy 💀

quasi wedge
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oh wait a minute

limber tiger
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Wind Burst IS INSANE

quasi wedge
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I'm not even halfway through the changelog jesus

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oh thank goodness I don't need to add potions for these since they are negative effects

prisma niche
quasi wedge
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so how do village raids even work then with 5 tiers?

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Is it only goign to be that tier of raid that occurs?

prisma niche
quasi wedge
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so it's just 1 wave instead of 5

tropic chasm
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fancy looking items

prisma niche
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yea I guess

prisma niche
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I'll test

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nice icon

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skulls

past wharf
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I have a question

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There are aquatic trial Chambers ?

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In my memories no

prisma niche
toxic horizon
limber tiger
toxic horizon
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wrong channel #off-topic

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wait

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MC legends???

quasi wedge
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Trial chambers really are the best feature in the game now

willow sequoia
quasi wedge
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yeah mace was already op

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now it's absurd

toxic horizon
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bro Density on Maces is gonna be so fucking OP

quasi wedge
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Although, what category do tehse 3 enchantments fall under?

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Can they all be on the mace at once?

willow sequoia
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Breach is OP as well

quasi wedge
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@prisma niche can you see if you can put all the mace enchantments on at once

toxic horizon
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The base Mace has to get some kind of nerf if they are all allowed to be on at the same time

willow sequoia
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They really should cap mace damage

toxic horizon
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I think they've done a pretty good job with balancing the mace already imo

quasi wedge
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how

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thing is busted

toxic horizon
toxic horizon
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They also did nerf it

prisma niche
cerulean quarry
rough path
willow sequoia
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Actually gross

tropic chasm
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Unbalanced things gives joy to life

rough path
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The Mace is "OP" bc everyone always does it in creative mode and in controlled environements

cerulean quarry
tropic chasm
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The mace is op on survival too

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But is not something I dislike

willow sequoia
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At least no more crystal pvp lol

prisma niche
limber tiger
prisma niche
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just did and honestly, mace has it's pros and cons. Super cool item

sleek grail
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Very cool snapshot, was not expecting any of this

balmy spire
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i almost teared up the snapshot was so good 💀

half depot
quasi wedge
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what did they change "minecraft:icon" to?

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tried updating my items to 1.20.80, and as far as I'm able to find nothing changed

rough path
quasi wedge
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why

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😔

rough path
quasi wedge
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pain

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makes sense, but VP documentation is wrong then

rough path
quasi wedge
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huh

rough path
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What VP docs

quasi wedge
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lol wait

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It doesn't have any components in there

prisma niche
quasi wedge
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kinda sucks that they can't drop their armor

prisma niche
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yea :/

quasi wedge
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does the zombie -> drowned trick still work on bedrock?

rough path
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Yes

prisma niche
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Since when was this a room?

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I like the ominous chambers. I like how it randomly spawns XP bottles and some of the new effects

lapis sierra
quasi wedge
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I really need to learn how to mass edit files for some of these things

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starting ot be too much to go through 300 files to do all these changes

rough path
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smokeynerd this is why i created my ADK proj

tropic chasm
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I created a python script to generate me files off of a template

quasi wedge
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guess I'm learning Python

rough path
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You can Use JS as well

quasi wedge
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I mean, I guess it shouldn't be too difficult, I'm just reading a file, finding the key word, extracting the needed text into it's own variable, then inserting that into my new template and replacing the whole block

tropic chasm
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Took me like 1-2 hours without counting some minutes learning a few things in SoloLearn & I still required ChatGPTs assistance lol

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though, u already have more experience with a scripting language than me so it should be easier for you

rough path
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Just replace the key

quasi wedge
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yeah idk what that means

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by not too difficult I mean it will take me a few days

tropic chasm
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Is very simple tho

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just for identifier purposes

quasi wedge
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yeah idk what any of that means

tropic chasm
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I added comments for all the neccesary thungs 😔

quasi wedge
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your comments are really comments

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#list of identifiers as a comment for "identifiers" isn't really a useful comment

tropic chasm
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lol

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Okay so

quasi wedge
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no it's fine

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I will figure it out

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Not doing it right now or for the next day most likely anyways

tropic chasm
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You are importing 2 libraries

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check these messages the next day then

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if u need em

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then i defined a function named generate_file_from_template which is only taking three parameters

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template

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the output directory and identifier

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then we replace the placeholder {identifier} in the template

quasi wedge
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Kaioga don't bother lol

tropic chasm
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ok lol

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Python will be very useful for you ngl

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I thought you used regolith

toxic horizon
tropic chasm
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It sure is

prisma niche
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Clearly a Bogged but ok

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idek if this is the right channel but it's kinda update related but idk

willow sequoia
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omg its herobrain

chrome plover
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Brian really is a hero

rough path
tropic chasm
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its always youuuu

balmy spire
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it looks more like a skeleton to me lol

hoary forge
livid jasper
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It would be cool if would possible to use the interactWithBlock method of simulale player on dimension as well

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and also if we can get the destroy time of a block with scripts

willow sequoia
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We cannot

livid jasper
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i know that is the reason why i said it would be cool

willow sequoia
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Oh I thought you were asking if it's possible lmao

quasi wedge
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I don't think the ominous potion thing really works here tbh

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the glass just "vanishes" after drinking it

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I think making them drop Ominous Stew would work a lot better and it would have a buddy in Suspicious Stew

willow sequoia
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Honestly this

quasi wedge
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I think it's awesome

willow sequoia
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Trial chambers & the breeze still feel vanilla, but like, mace feels modded

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ig it's because it's all new

quasi wedge
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Won't feel modded after we play with it lol

willow sequoia
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very true

quasi wedge
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I'm going to just.. retexture Ominous Potions to Ominous Stew with my add-on

willow sequoia
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Heck, elytra felt modded when it first got introduced

quasi wedge
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so my brain functions properly

prisma niche
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It's fun

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I like this update

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but you'll always get some nerd who complains about everything

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Minecraft players when no update: grr

Minecraft players when update: grr

quasi wedge
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I just hope Nether fortresses and End Cities get the same kind of treatment at some point

quasi wedge
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That they would be fleshed out more like how trial chambers are

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Instead of just structures you walk around in, loot the chests, then leave and never return

tropic chasm
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That's the point of the end

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Mojang probs don't want to have kids with depression after 2 hours in the end

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ngl that dimension is so boring

willow sequoia
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Hopefully end update soon

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Nether update was a banger

tropic chasm
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Yea

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1.21 is the biggest update since 1.16

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so im not expecting an end update that soon

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maybe 1.24

willow sequoia
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Fair point

quasi wedge
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none of the recent updates have really had a theme tbh

celest sluice
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They did, it's just harder to see

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Although the Wild update was the main offender

tropic chasm
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They have been very random

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yet

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wh cares

heady sable
quasi wedge
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hey what's going on here

rough path
tropic chasm
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And still no render field

prisma niche
tropic chasm
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To fix block being small in the inventory, to have custom offsets, to not need 2 geometries for things like fences, etc etc

languid tinsel
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yay new docs!

cerulean quarry
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i guess we may expect 1.20.90 next week

rough path
wet shell
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in 1.21.0.20

rough path
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I wager that as well

prisma niche
rough path
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Wdym, I have no information at all

prisma niche
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pepe_hm well I actually you I erm

heady sable
#

With all those new additions I really don't hope it's going to be 1.21 cause there is still so much to get feedback

wheat wasp
#

Is there a RSS feed of updates we can put in the chrome extension. Or a source I can make a RSS feed from?

ionic ocean
#

Can't wait for that rotation property…

tropic chasm
#

Is just stupid we don’t have individual face rotations in block geometries

ionic ocean
#

What does that mean?

tropic chasm
#

We also don't have the display field which is also stupid

ionic ocean
tropic chasm
#

Is it?

ionic ocean
tropic chasm
#

Can you render an item 3d in hand with an attachable?

#

Like, in the inventry

ionic ocean
#

Ah, I was just about to say: the real problem is that we can't reference auto-generated extruded item or block models or rendered block model icons from anywhere.

#

It's especially strange, as you can typically reference built atlases from a bunch of places.

#

Particle and entity textures can both reference atlas.items, for example.

tropic chasm
#

Yeah

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Which is why the display field would be really useful

tropic chasm
#

specially because of that 90 degrees limitation mojang loves to give us in bedrock

ionic ocean
#

I don't think you understand how the rendering pipeline or collision/selection systems work. It's not just arbitrary restrictions. There's an important reason they do this every time.

tropic chasm
#

Not saying that

#

The thing is that, with simply breaking down the block into faces like I did with my geo, we do not have that restriction and have the intended result

#

I can rotate the UVs to 270, 180, anything I want, literally

sleek grail
#

Ah

charred ocean
#

also wait a sec april fools coming very near

#

what could come in the next April fools snapshot?

#

A peter griffin and shrek variants for warden?

#

or a lapis block set

willow sequoia
limber tiger
limber tiger
#

you know what it means

wet shell
#

so Xbox series x and s getting native versions too?

limber tiger
#

yes

#

and probably shaders for ps5

wet shell
wet shell
limber tiger
wet shell
#

I can’t even say it 😭

limber tiger
#

I haven't seen someone saying Deferred for Shaders

wet shell
#

Well anyway I hope these native versions come soon

prisma niche
#

No point in doing a PS5 Version of bedrock when there is no benefit. RTX won't even be on there so kinda useless. Only reason could be for PSVR2 but that's about it imo

rich vault
prisma niche
#

A lot of people called it deferred

rich vault
#

Those who know the difference use proper names, because there is a difference.

rough path
#

In this server you will be pressed by some individuals for using the wrong nomenclature yes. But the greater minecraft community simply does not care.

I think it's just a balance of being respectful and acknowledging the nomenclature based on the environment you are in and the people you interact with. That being said, for the same people who do press against others for using the wrong nomenclature, ease up a little, no need to be too harsh. Remember what environment you're in and the people you interact with. Rules still apply

rich vault
#

To be continued

rough path
#

doggo All that typing for that message

rich vault
#

I'm just busy and can't finish it rn

magic fossil
#

I don't give a shit what you use to call things ,as long as it's not harmful or offensive i don't care.

#

why do you make it such a big problem ?

quasi wedge
#

I don't think anyone called it a big problem, or a problem in general. It's just incorrect - and it should be completely fine to correct someone and inform them of the differences.

rich vault
# magic fossil I don't give a shit what you use to call things ,as long as it's not harmful or ...

It does actually cause a bit if harm, as it moves attention away from actual shaders, or lack there of. If everyone is happy with deferred, or even worse, think that it enables some kind of shader support, then less people will actually request proper support from Mojang, and they will have less incentive to add it. Ik most people couldn't care less about custom shaders, but I do, and it really hurts when a feature that you care about so much gets drowned in all that media attention towards "official bedrock shaders" aka deferred.

prisma niche
#

Veka would be the happiest person once we get REAL shader support

magic fossil
#

like actual native modding support i doubt it will ever happen

rich vault
#

Yeah probably not. But...

simple badger
prisma niche
sonic musk
magic fossil
#

I will probably be some ashes in a tiny vase few feet under concrete by then.

eternal shoal
lapis sierra
#

Maybe a ps5 version won't run like crap?

eternal shoal
#

they're just two different things

prisma niche
magic fossil
#

im a bit curious on why do we share so many mutual friends 🤔

magic fossil
prisma niche
#

no and no

magic fossil
#

i think there will be one point in the future where add-ons will be able to do virtually everything modding have to offer.

lapis sierra
#

I don't think so. Add-Ons will never be ever to do everything a mod can.

magic fossil
#

well ,kayla said it

rich vault
magic fossil
#

they will try to make add-ons be able to create any experience imaginable

stoic orchid
#

Because Java Mods can completely re-write the code, it's unrealistic to expect Bedrock Add-Ons to ever be able to do "everything". But, definitely the intent is to close the gap significantly.

rough path
#

PiggoDerp The solution is to obviously open source the bedrock engine /s

hoary forge
#

Yes!! ^^

wet shell
#

I nickname them mods

#

But most of the time I call them addons

ionic ocean
#

I mean, what even is Minecraft really? It's mostly a style and a set of APIs supporting that style. Robust blocks, items, entities, etc., make the engine. I think the worst thing we'll lose out on comparatively is just shader stuff.

simple badger
#

minecraft is minecraft

ionic ocean
#

I think stuff like that LOD view distance mod and the build-to-entities mods won't be reasonable, but that's okay, too.

simple badger
rough path
#

Looking forward to Upcoming Better Blocks Creator Features toggle

magic fossil
#

The world is whatever we view it

#

it's only a matter of perspective.

rough path
#

Did we ever get an official answer as to why client stuff was moved to the BP json files for blocks/items? PiggoDerp really wished it was like Legends, each block has its own file to define their client stuff in the RP folder

tropic chasm
#

Looking forward for data driven blocks

ionic ocean
simple badger
rough path
#

Custom enchantments and commands are technically possible

tropic chasm
magic fossil
ionic ocean
#

I mean an actual system hooked into the engine.

magic fossil
magic fossil
ionic ocean
#

I mean, goodness, a scripting-based effect system registered on world load like custom components seems pretty real.

magic fossil
#

then i can die on the hill happy

ionic ocean
#

Same with commands now.

magic fossil
#

imagine someone recreating entirety of datapack command system using scripting

prisma niche
#

I still have my list of things I want to see

  • Tile Entities
  • Actual Custom Enchantments
  • Actual Custom Potion Effects
ionic ocean
#

I think stronger hooking into the tessellation system and camera entities/custom skyboxes are some of the more radical ones that may or may not ever make it on Bedrock.

magic fossil
magic fossil
#

maybe client-script is a reasonable step tho.

rough path
#

Just because it can be mimiced does not mean we shouldn't get official support

ionic ocean
#

I feel like tile entities could just be a block component. What we really need is the ability to pull up different types of interfaces on demand, not just dialogues.

prisma niche
#

Not fun to use lore to fake enchantments 😔

rough path
magic fossil
prisma niche
rough path
#

UI might wait for OreUI?

prisma niche
#

OreUI might be the UI, but idk

rough path
#

Idk

magic fossil
#

OreUI might not be data driven

ionic ocean
#

Yeah, it's when you start thinking about customizable UI that everything starts feeling far away.

rough path
#

How would this tile entity component look like

magic fossil
prisma niche
tropic chasm
#

I need connectable block trait, redstone components, display field in geometry, separate face rotation for block geometries without a 90 degrees rotation, climbable component and much much more (probably)

prisma niche
#

Or just any UI

ionic ocean
rough path
tropic chasm
#

Yes, we can do redstone with custom components and so waterlogging, but eh, why not vanilla too

chrome plover
ionic ocean
#

Possibly, we could use block dynamic properties, but that sounds intense.

magic fossil
#

why don't bedrock community have so many libs like the java datapack community ?

prisma niche
#

Because libs were not possible before

magic fossil
#

like i notice that datapack community have a ton of lib that make it easier to fake stuff

#

while scripting virtually have nothing

prisma niche
#

There was 1 lib on MCPEDL a long time ago but it did not succeed.

tropic chasm
#

Still building my block templates repo (:

ionic ocean
#

We need a powerful library that outputs JSON files. Something type safe and robust.

rough path
magic fossil
livid jasper
magic fossil
#

rust >>>>>> cpp

ionic ocean
#

My darling has become Swift, but I'd never write a tool in such for the greater community. Nor in Rust. It could only possibly be Python or JavaScript, and as JS is more ingrained in the community because of the scripting API… yeah.

rough path
#

I don't think I've written json stuff by hand anymore since my adk proj aside typing on mobile

magic fossil
tropic chasm
#

I do my entities by hand

#

and some blocks

prisma niche
#

Y'all use tools to make your stuff? wheeze

rough path
#

I havent touched entities in a while aside migrating the new wolves to aliases and properties for a demo

ionic ocean
magic fossil
rough path
tropic chasm
tropic chasm
#

is really handy

prisma niche
#

I write all my stuff by hand because I prefer to do things that way.

#

I find it easier rather than to make a script that does stuff for me

ionic ocean
#

The other problem with me is that I'm now wrapped up in Marketplace. There are tons of amazing, performant systems that will never be seen by anyone at all (programmers, that is).

prisma niche
#

Sometimes when I am really lazy I generate my things

tropic chasm
#

It all depends on the case

magic fossil
tropic chasm
magic fossil
#

while on java ,datapack and mod alike ,there are an abundant of those kind of systems in place for modders-datapackers to use

tropic chasm
#

Is not that hard 🙄

ionic ocean
magic fossil
#

If datapackers can do it...why can't we ?

prisma niche
ionic ocean
#

?

tropic chasm
#

kayla wouldn't know is not like mojangsters are in this server

magic fossil
prisma niche
tropic chasm
magic fossil
#

we should have a motto and movement for people to make libs to catch up with the java community

#

would make add-ons being made have less obstacles and be more high quality

rough path
tropic chasm
#

Just wait for custom block and item components to be in stab;e

rough path
magic fossil
#

people who came after us can save their time by standing on shoulders of giants.

tropic chasm
#

does my block template repo counts as a lib

prisma niche
#

You can do a lot of cool things when you utilize the API we have.

#

It still needs some things but if you know what to do and stuff you can do pretty cool things.

magic fossil
#

my team might be working on a Virtual "Dimension" system that might become a lib in the future.

tropic chasm
#

I’m starting to use the api on my templates (:

magic fossil
prisma niche
#

[This is one example](#1221901601342619688 message)

tropic chasm
#

How do y’all make the impulse thing for slime blocks in the api by the way

rough path
#

Poggy stop nerd emoji reacting

prisma niche
#

:3

#

ok that was not me

magic fossil
magic fossil
#

we need that too

#

mimicking it is a pain

#

and it looks so janky given we aren't able to make sloped model.

prisma niche
#

That is something that we may never see because who would use it? One or two people.

ionic ocean
#

I'm not sure that Mojang caught how important mimicking vanilla systems was to the community. That's all that tons of hobbyists want to do is have stuff that exactly matches vanilla.

prisma niche
#

:D me lookie at meeee

magic fossil
tropic chasm
#

I made custom lava before, looked perfect… not sure where it is…

magic fossil
hasty grotto
rough path
#

Java gets data driven vanilla stuff whereas we get data driven custom stuff

prisma niche
#

We have cooler stuff

tropic chasm
chrome plover
magic fossil
#

Imagine having to use 20 bajillion commands to do what scripting can do in 2 lines of code

prisma niche
magic fossil
#

i just created this repo for the project

rough path
#

I do not care what Java players think of anymore really....everytime I try to interact with them it always ends up badly... look at ersatz for example, he broke my bot the day I announced it

magic fossil
#

huge progresses were lost today btw

#

due to not having backup

hasty grotto
#

rip

prisma niche
rough path
#

👻 git rebase is bad /s

ionic ocean
#

Well, the Marketplace getting add-ons and serious bugs getting fixed and Hardcore coming out and deferred and Editor… Bedrock is on the upswing.

tropic chasm
magic fossil
elfin flower
magic fossil
tropic chasm
prisma niche
#

Come to think of it, I never saw a large portion of the Bedrock playerbase complain about Minecraft updates. It's has always been the Java playerbase that complains

magic fossil
#

there is just so many misinfo about bedrock being spread on the Java community it's insane

elfin flower
#

going for PS5 native pretty much increases the hardware compatibilities e.g probably ray tracing maybe

hasty grotto
#

comparing bedrocks addon stuff and javas community maintained mod loaders feels unfair

tropic chasm
#

Minecraft better

#

The fight between java and bedrock is just ridiculous

elfin flower
prisma niche
magic fossil
elfin flower
hasty grotto
#

dang

elfin flower
#

i doubt they'll fix it, the playstore review are kinda now filled with 1 star due to that

magic fossil
chrome plover
magic fossil
#

when will we have the Rend dimension added to Minecraft ? 🥺

tropic chasm
magic fossil
elfin flower
magic fossil
elfin flower
#

there's absolutely no positivity whatsoever

smoky elk
#

It may just be me, but I have been thinking for a while that Mojang may be aiming to merge java and bedrock together eventually

hasty grotto
#

all of the critical reviews are either complaining about lag or the new controls

magic fossil
#

in 100 years

prisma niche
#

Java won't ever be discontinued imo

smoky elk
#

A lot may be against the idea of merging

prisma niche
#

Stars Parity

elfin flower
#

I'll stop playing java if they ever added a banner marker on a map to bedrock

prisma niche
#

I like Java's combat for survival. That's just me tho.

hasty grotto
#

kinda irrelevant but i dont see why offhand couldnt work with old controls

elfin flower
#

everyone who plays survival primarily does indeed like it.

elfin flower
smoky elk
#

The combat system is really cool. I Personally like the mob cap and entity spawns. Being able to get zombie reinforcements to bedrock would be nice. Though it may cause issues with performance and lag

rough path
#

😅 Hopefully Mojang fixes my bug reports before HCF goes away. Well, at least for items i discovered 3 bugs(or maybe features, who knows? Docs aren't that clear)

hasty grotto
quasi wedge
#

reading the chat and seeing "Technically" several times fills me with rage

elfin flower
#

even pojav does indeed has old control style as bedrock, it's uh. really terrible.

rough path
#

Technical changes

tropic chasm
#

well that’s technically your problem Zack

rough path
#

Restructuring the Technical Side of Bedrock

quasi wedge
#

"technically, we can do this"

#

😡

tropic chasm
#

technically yes

elfin flower
#

technically yesn't

hasty grotto
#

technically technical technician technology technique

#

seeing technically over and over again makes it feel its misspelled

sleek grail
smoky elk
sleek grail
#

Ok but why do you need that as a trait?

#

An onBlockUpdate component could just detect when the neighboring blocks are changed and see if the block could connect to it

tropic chasm
#

Is better, I imagine it like nobody(gravel) does, so:

{
    "traits": {
        "minecraft:connected": {
         "enabled_blocks": ["minecraft:cobblestone"]
        }
     }
}

We will see all it's capabilities when it becomes available

sleek grail
#

We will see all it's capabilities when it becomes available
When traits become availible?

tropic chasm
#

When the connectable block trait becomes available

tropic chasm
#

Kayla will give me my connectable block trait gift this Christmas (right?) 🙏

heady sable
#

A real holiday creator feature 🥶

stoic orchid
tropic chasm
#

Yay!

#

That just means you will give me a minecraft:climbable gift 😊

#

Im very happy to know that is a high priority block trait, really really happy

ionic ocean
hoary forge
heady sable
#

@ that person that needed it 😄👍

eternal lantern
#

When do custom components launch? With 1.20.80?

tropic chasm
#

Probably not

#

You can use them in latest preview though, so feel free to start updating your blocks

eternal lantern
#

Oh yeah i forgot that

#

Thanks!

magic fossil
#

Smoke

silver flume
#

And mirrors

past wharf
#

do you think it is more a feature or a bug ?

sonic musk
past wharf
#

Not the honey hitbox

sonic musk
past wharf
#

And also the velocity

#

I find it quite funny

sonic musk
#

yeah lol
you are shooting it upwards and the honey is supposed to slow it down but
it worked like a bubble coloumn

past wharf
#

No but it is very weird, you Can slow down even vertically

#

Try and experiment

#

it is linked to the angle

charred ocean
#

oh wow good finding

past wharf
#

in reality it isn't me who found this, i discovered right there at that moment

#

:/

#

but it will be fixed sadly

charred ocean
#

oh

#

alr

past wharf
#

Wind charges have so many issues

wet shell
#

😭

#

It’s not even april 1st bro

heady sable
#

Minecraft News will fall for that

fluid wadi
charred ocean
wet shell
#

And?

charred ocean
#

Advance april fools

#

also what

charred ocean
#

nvm. It was because of a convo we had. I forgot we had a convo

wet shell
#

Why won’t he send me fwend request 🥺

hoary forge
#

New Preview today?

chrome plover
hoary forge
#

It did? I thought we were getting one today

sleek grail
hoary forge
sleek grail
#

It's not

hoary forge
#

It is

sleek grail
#

Maybe 2026

hoary forge
chrome plover
#

Yooo they finally revealed the name of 1.21

prisma niche
#

potato where I click

chrome plover
#

can't believe they would add this to vanilla

hoary forge
prisma niche
chrome plover
#

irish update

prisma niche
#

Frying Table is real lol

charred ocean
magic fossil
#

Skibíi

charred ocean
ivory rain
hoary forge
past wharf
ivory rain
chrome plover
wet shell
#

😭

hoary forge
#

That means no deferred too

wet shell
#

Bruh

#

Y’all really blocked ap r I l

#

Foo l s

#

💀

hoary forge
#

huh?

wet shell
#

Yeah

prisma niche
wet shell
#

I guess it’s March 32nd

hoary forge
#

Apri￶l foo￶ls

#

@wet shell

wet shell
#

WHY CAN YOU SAY IT

wet shell
hoary forge
#

It’s not blocked?

wet shell
#

It is

hoary forge
wet shell
#

What’s next

#

Y’all gonna tell me deferred is on switch?

hoary forge
#

Wdym?

prisma niche
hoary forge
#

o7 Bedrock

chrome plover
#

glad they decided to release the java marketplace at the same time

prisma niche
#

💀 I expect someone to believe that and make tweets about it

hoary forge
#

it is real

prisma niche
#

Glad that Bedrock is able to join the fun, tho it's an Add-On

hoary forge
#

@pure gull

wet shell
past wharf
wet shell
#

MOJANG JUST TOLD ME THAT DEFERRED IS COMING OUT IN DECEMBER!!!

#

ITS CALLED THE SUPET FANCY GRAPICS UPDATE

#

I guess I am their #1 fan

elfin flower
#

"super memory leak update" fits for me honestly

gusty sedge
eternal shoal
wet shell
eternal shoal
#

slay

eternal shoal
languid tinsel
#

The add-on that Jig made for March 32nd is cracking me up

stoic orchid
#

Happy.. what day is it?

prisma niche
#

It's the 32nd of March :)

simple badger
#

March 33rd

stoic orchid
#

This makes sense

stoic junco
#

it’s wednesday

simple badger
stoic orchid
#

That can't be right

half depot
#

What I just got auto modded. I didn't even say the day

prisma niche
half depot
#

How despair

rich vault
#

the p-word

#

rhymes with tomato

half depot
#

That's forbidden too

#

Sigh