General Discussion

[obsidian lark]

As a developer myself, the whole "they use different languages" argument makes no sense. You can implement the same thing in different codebases.

[hoary forge]

iirc yes

[magic fossil]

Yes ,but depends on how the codebase was written ,it can be harder or easier depending on the codebase

[obsidian lark]

Each codebase has its challenges, but it's not impossible. Like Java almost got scripting.

[hoary forge]

I was about to say that, LOL

Wait, when was that?

[magic fossil]

again that was an EXPERIMENT

the devs were playing around

[obsidian lark]

They intentionally leaked it ages ago, but it never released. However, we know they were working on it at one point.

[magic fossil]

it's like saying Bedrock almost got a c# modding api because the devs were experimemting with it at one time

[rough path]

Looking forward to data driven blocks/items on Java and see how their implementaion is better

[magic fossil]

kayla is always watching

[obsidian lark]

It's funny how Bedrock only has item type components, but Java only has item stack components. 😅

[hoary forge]

huh, I probably missed that

[ionic ocean]

Well, we have 4.

[magic fossil]

what are item stack even useful for anyway ?

[obsidian lark]

Names, lore, enchantments, etc.

[magic fossil]

we can do all of that ?

[obsidian lark]

https://twitter.com/SeargeDP/status/1149269708065124352

Searge (@SeargeDP) on X

I'm also excited to show the first update to our world selection screen. It didn't feel well integrated with the main menu before, so that's now fixed.

Twitter · Jul 11, 2019, 10:50 AM

[obsidian lark]

Yes, but I'm not sure if they're actually components internally. They might be NBT.

[magic fossil]

They are

[obsidian lark]

There's 4 kinds of item components?

[toxic horizon]

but why would Java get scripting when they literally have access to the actual Java code for the game?

[obsidian lark]

Because datapacks exist and not everyone are modders.

Datapacks are also a vanilla feature and there's communities like this one that uses vanilla features to make content.

[magic fossil]

but datapacks are for mapmakers ?

[toxic horizon]

not just mapmakers

[magic fossil]

beside java also have mods for everything

Bedrock doesn't have mods

[obsidian lark]

Datapacks are Java's behavior packs.

[toxic horizon]

fair

[magic fossil]

they haven't evolve in add-ons yet without all the data driven and resource pack features like json ui

[toxic horizon]

I actually forgot about datapacks xD

didn't datapacks just get data-driven stuff??

was that not what replaced the NBT stuff?

[obsidian lark]

Certain things are data driven, but not everything. We know they're working on data driven blocks and item though.

[magic fossil]

again addons and datapacks are made for different purposes

addons are meant to make up for our lack of mods

datapacks are to reinforce everything there

[obsidian lark]

I don't agree with that at all.

[toxic horizon]

??

[magic fossil]

????

Literally Script API is the only perks about Bedrock

If not theres no reason to play or even develop for bedrock at all

just do fucking Java

[toxic horizon]

what...

[magic fossil]

The creator Modding scene is already lopsided enough for the Java community

[toxic horizon]

We've been getting a lot of stuff recently

look at how far the Scripting API has come

It's amazing now

[magic fossil]

Exactly

[ionic ocean]

4 item stack components on Bedrock

17 item definition components

[obsidian lark]

Try telling me the same thing after trying to making an "entity animation" on Java. I'll wait.

[rough path]

I will never fully understand if Blaze3D has been fully implemented or not

[obsidian lark]

It's implemented.

[magic fossil]

I just code a Mod ,so ?

[obsidian lark]

I don't want to. I'd rather use datapacks.

[magic fossil]

On Bedrock you ALWAYS have to use an addon for everything

[magic fossil]

Your loss

[toxic horizon]

yes, because that's our equivalent of a modding api

[magic fossil]

it's the only way to make a mod that works for all bedrock versions

[toxic horizon]

instead of modding API, we have scripting API and JSON

[magic fossil]

90% of Bedrockers are Mobile

[toxic horizon]

no?

[magic fossil]

Yes

add-ons are Mojang compensation for Bedrock lack of mods like i said

[toxic horizon]

where'd you get that statistic?

[obsidian lark]

I know you say that Java creators don't understand Bedrock, but you clearly don't understand Java creators.

[toxic horizon]

Add-ons is our Modding APIs

[ionic ocean]

Do not underestimate especially the console player size. Much larger than I thought.

[magic fossil]

Yes

They are our only equivilamt

[magic fossil]

Java creators can always switch to modding anyway.

[toxic horizon]

very, on PS4 when there used to be communities, there were almost 3 full ones which is nearly 100k each, and lots of different language ones that had nearly hundred thousand also

[magic fossil]

we have no modding to switch to because this is our modding

[toxic horizon]

insane amount on console

[toxic horizon]

It has to be our equivalent, we can't have the exact modding API on a different coding language.

[magic fossil]

Java have datapacks AND a modding community that are 30× the entirety of Bao

[obsidian lark]

Which most of us won't do. Go ask that on a Java datapack server and they'll tell you that they prefer datapacks. To us, our modding API are datapacks.

Datapacks are also officially supported by Mojang unlike mods.

[magic fossil]

what about bedrock ? We don't have a forge

[magic fossil]

Forge mods are also officially recognized

You see that Mojang promos where Bedrock doesn't have mods ?

[toxic horizon]

Forge has also had a shit ton of time to establish itself

[magic fossil]

this is our only way to mod the game.

[obsidian lark]

I have, but that's another issue. Mojang doesn't know how to advertise Bedrock.

[magic fossil]

you datapackers have much more option

[toxic horizon]

Forge also has ads that pay their creators

mod launchers for bedrock don't have ads

that makes people that know java more willing to use Forge to make money

the modding community on Bedrock is small

because the minecraft Bedrock code is hardcoded and hidden so we can't look at it

[rough path]

Is this an invitaiton for me to troll on your datapack discord server? /s

[magic fossil]

Well ,goodluck fighting off the Modding Community protests when you guys get a real coding modding api lol

[magic fossil]

Second Bedrock invasion

[magic fossil]

look at the constant dramas between forgers/fabrickers and Bedrockers and you will know

[obsidian lark]

TBH, I wouldn't even call the Bedrock creator community "modders". They're just using vanilla features like us datapack creators.

[magic fossil]

Command vs Code

Thats the differences

[obsidian lark]

GitHub recognizes commands as a programming language.

Well, it's more like we convinced them, but that's besides the point.

[toxic horizon]

wha?

[magic fossil]

You can make JS libraries ,adding existing features Mojang doesnt suppory

[toxic horizon]

Why don't you just make a mod for Amethyst? You're learning C++ aren't you?

[magic fossil]

all you need is "Import

[toxic horizon]

and TS*

Don't forgot we also have TS*

Like the custom components we're getting in scripting is TS

[magic fossil]

Mobile

[toxic horizon]

ahh

[magic fossil]

My main playerbase is mobile

[obsidian lark]

The examples use TS, but you can use JS. But then you get to deal with JS issues.

[toxic horizon]

fair, forgot you can transcribe TS with JS

[obsidian lark]

I can't stand dynamically typed languages. I even add types to my Python code.

[toxic horizon]

lol

[teal acorn]

after using ts for a bit I can't either 😂

[toxic horizon]

My first coding language was Python

[magic fossil]

JS is better wdym

[magic fossil]

😦

[magic fossil]

Never try to learn it

Slow ,useless

[toxic horizon]

bro what

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-cat-kitty-stupid-funny-gif-23207376

It's slow, yes, but it's not useless

[obsidian lark]

I literally have a Discord bot using Python.

[toxic horizon]

Python is the main coding language used for science

[magic fossil]

duh

[obsidian lark]

Even C++ can be slow too. Forget an & and you might have a bad day. Don't underestimate how slow heap allocations can be.

[toxic horizon]

I learned Python because I want to do Theoretical Physics

Python has a really amazing maths library

[teal acorn]

I still use Js, but I prefer Ts for projects

[toxic horizon]

Python is also easy to learn as it's syntax isn't hard, which can become an amazing starting ground for people going into coding also

[obsidian lark]

Yeah, don't be me and learn C++ as your first real language. 😅

I still prefer C++ though.

[toxic horizon]

apparently JS is an interpreted code

atleast, according to this https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/difference-between-compiled-and-interpreted-language/

[teal acorn]

it is

so is Java and Python?

[rough path]

We're getting off track now lol

[toxic horizon]

just a little

🤏

[magic fossil]

🤔

[worthy gulch]

Mojang will eventually work on turning add-ons components to full coding flexibility to make mods because most of the creator's will switch to bedrock to earn money

I wasn't surprised about custom components I knew they will come and there will be much more for sure

[celest sluice]

Amethyst. Yes it's only for PC but so is Forge

[languid tinsel]

There some WILD reads to catch up jfc

Java getting more and more datapack power / support leans a lot more into what bedrock already does of game as an engine. You shouldn't need to mod the game to create new experiences / things. A large amount of ideas are creatable natively

[languid tinsel]

Forge / neoforge / paper etc are more officially unofficially recognized tbh. It's very arms length. Where as things created with datapack on java will always be slightly closer

[charred ocean]

even the world gen can be modified with datapacks where as we can't do it bedrock with addons

[finite jolt]

🤔 if i heard correctly from a friend a while back he said that world gen could be modified through datapacks

[sonic musk]

do you mean add ons

[finite jolt]

💀 no i jus misred the message

and i sent

before thinking

[sonic musk]

bruh lmao

you are goofy af

[finite jolt]

FR

i am no comprehending today at all

lol

[charred ocean]

no i mean there ain't data driven world gen in bedrock ain't it?

meanwhile java already has it

[finite jolt]

yuh thats right, we cant make custom biomes nor custom dimension

[obsidian lark]

While Java has data driven worldgen, its been experimental for probably as long as HCF.

They occasionally change it too.

[magic fossil]

When can we fight the Render Dragon ?

[celest sluice]

It's experimental? Huh. Couldn't tell from the lack of toggle

[devout barn]

The game just says its experimental and here be dragons

[lone oasis]

yeah. it's a very arcane art

the amount of people who can do meaningful things with it are staggeringly low

[magic fossil]

so it's our Molang equivilant

[lone oasis]

never made an addon before but i was under the impression a lot of people use molang

[magic fossil]

Not really ,theres only 3 active molang-er

and it's very hard if you don't have a college degree in mathematics

[toxic horizon]

You don't need to have a college degree in maths to do MoLang. There's a lot you can do with MoLang without knowing more than basic algebra or arithmatic

[magic fossil]

Yeah if you wanna do basic stuff sure

[devout barn]

Imagine majoring in molang

[magic fossil]

I am major in slaying the render dragon in the rend.

[keen plover]

I would say, anything that goes past a limit, should just get a warning and let creators decide.It was mainly covered on forms like reddit communities and places like main minecraft discord server, saw a bunch of talk there about it.

Maybe your community just leans towards java. Plus they are a bunch of java players most dont play bedrock. Unless your a fulltime bedrock dev and part of your workflow requires java for building and level design.

[ionic ocean]

That comment of mine didn't hold up over time. The first day, though, it was just silence.

[languid tinsel]

Is it?? What parts?

[silver flume]

q.is_moving requires quantum mechanics knowledge to fully understand

[finite jolt]

💀

[magic fossil]

True true !

[livid jasper]

it is possible to store variables in custom block components 😏

[magic fossil]

yes yes yes yes

[livid jasper]

👀

[obsidian lark]

You could probably even save the data to dynamic properties too. Then the components would have persistent data.

I would test it, but custom components are broken at the moment.

[magic fossil]

Create port 1 to 1 ?

👀

[livid jasper]

no tile entities are most important for that

[magic fossil]

can't we already make that ?

via all the chest addons

i'm pretty sure that's very possible

[livid jasper]

in the most of them you have a down part that is the block an a upper part that is the entity and you have to interact with them to open the chest

[livid jasper]

at least we need to be able to set textures with script

[magic fossil]

can't we already control an entity with scripts already ?

Someone can make a script to generate all the entity variants

[livid jasper]

uff the addon size then: 4.3 GB

and the perfromance : 15 FPS😢

[magic fossil]

haven't you done something like that already ?

[livid jasper]

yeah but it has problems on every corner and i had avoidet something that displays items

but runtime variable on block is also a huge thing for that

tile entities are completly underated from bedrock creators . in the create mod every mechanical block has a tile entity from pipes up to constructions

the same thing in mekanism

[magic fossil]

can't we already mimic tile entities on Bedrock ?

like make something similar that clips inside the block

[livid jasper]

that is the case in my create version

entities insinde a block is still better than 1000000 permutions or 10000 flipbook textures

[magic fossil]

Yeah.

[livid jasper]

the entity is perfect centered and has a collision box of 0, 0 and you can still hit them but only in survival in creative not

[magic fossil]

is a 1 to 1 port possible tho ? hacky workarounds included.

[livid jasper]

70%

max 85%

but it is only my meaning

[magic fossil]

What are the remaining 15% ?

Contraptions ?

[livid jasper]

water in pipes trains contraptions

the redstone stuff

[magic fossil]

can't we already do contraptions(mhafy ships) ?

[livid jasper]

that is a entity for every block that is not even hacky but more bad

and the entity have to be able to have textures for every block

and the collisions are brocken with that attempt

[magic fossil]

But it works

[livid jasper]

that would be only visual no drill or something else would work, expect you want a unplayable perfromance

[magic fossil]

This is why we need JIT

[obsidian lark]

Does scripting actually have bad performance or are people just writing inefficient code?

Some of the things I've seen in #1067535382285135923 are concerning, but I haven't said anything because people need to learn from their mistakes and grow.

[rough path]

😱 my code is 1 ms slower bc it doesnt use V8 engine

Everytime I ask this question no one gives me a benchmark or test. MajestikButter eas the only one who did but he showed a video of a while back

[obsidian lark]

JS is already one of the fastest scripting languages out there. All the interpreters for it are quick

[magic fossil]

I think the problem is that most people learning the js api never had any experience with js before

[magic fossil]

js

quick

js

XD

[obsidian lark]

It actually is. That's not a joke.

It's many times faster than Python.

Assuming you're using the CPython interpreter.

[hoary forge]

Scripting is actually great. It’s just that people are doing large operation that kill performance.

[obsidian lark]

Most of those cases probably perform poorly with commands too.

Like I don't expect filling a large area with blocks to have good performance.

Scripting is probably in the same boat as commands on Java: it's fast until you modify the world or modify NBT.

[magic fossil]

nothing is fast when you do heavy operations

although i believe scripting is a bit faster in that regard due to being more directly interpretated

again the speed of scripting depends ALOT on the skill of the programmer

[finite jolt]

👍🏿 yes if people just knew how to optimize and minimize code to make it efficient it would be fast

[obsidian lark]

It's definitely an acquired skill.

[magic fossil]

scripting is Javascript

If you're a master at Javascript ,your code is going to be blazing fast to the people that learn scripting from Minecraft.

[obsidian lark]

You don't need to be a "master of JavaScript". You just need to be experienced with programming.

[finite jolt]

🤔 realistically u can never master a language

[obsidian lark]

I'm primarily a C++ developer and I learned JS in a few weeks. Programming languages copy each other and it's not that difficult to pick up another one.

[finite jolt]

👍🏿 yes like i started learning lua on roblox and then i wanted to check out typescript which led me to javascript and they are all pretty similar

[magic fossil]

true true

but skills matters

Knowing which operation is expensive and which is not

and how to minimize long convoluted code for your code to run faster

[obsidian lark]

That's different for every language. Like creating any variable in JS is technically expensive.

Heap allocations.

[magic fossil]

You solve that with let

[obsidian lark]

That's still a heap allocation.

[finite jolt]

same with const and var i assume?

[magic fossil]

supposedly less expensive than var

[obsidian lark]

Is C++ for example, you can access the stack. So allocating memory on the stack is just adding to a pointer. There's no overhead from the OS. The CPU just does it.

This is really getting off topic. 😅

[finite jolt]

burger

🫃🏿

[magic fossil]

there are about a few trillion cockroaches in the world

[livid jasper]

its the fastest runtime interpreter langs but compared to compiled langs js is incredible slow

[livid jasper]

massive operations are not the bottle neck , using the apis is it

[livid jasper]

not only that before the allocation the interpreta have to gues what data type it is and when it is a string or array it also have to gues how many elements could be added and reserve the space to prevent another allocation. js variable takes also much more bytes than from other langs

[magic fossil]

That's why we need JIT

[livid jasper]

its already JIT

i think

[magic fossil]

QuickJS doesnt have JIT

Its also 20% slower than V8

[chrome plover]

why do they call it QuickJS then 😵

[magic fossil]

It's a scam

QuickJS is the slowest JS engine out there lol

JIT-ed JS have the same speed as fucking Java lol

[cerulean quarry]

wtf is that emoji 💀

[magic fossil]

I gone to the Rend by going to the Rend stronghold and use Render Eyes crafted from Blaze3D powders to create the Rend Portal

[finite jolt]

pregnant man which is impossible but for some reason they have it up here

[toxic horizon]

pregnant_man_tone5

[cerulean quarry]

ik, but wtf

[toxic horizon]

fr

It's stupid

[magic fossil]

What the f

[sleek grail]

I got watchdogged from spawning an item on the player spawn event, there was no logic. It was just spawning the item

[cerulean quarry]

API interactions could be slow, but JS it self is fast

[sleek grail]

Yeah

[magic fossil]

watchdogged sounds so sus-

[finite jolt]

😭 yea like the placing

is so slow

[sleek grail]

That's what mean when they say scripting's slow

[finite jolt]

compared to the component on the block

like dawg

[magic fossil]

Yeah that can be fixed tho

like vector speed improve vastly using your own vector lib

[finite jolt]

so atm what im doing is using a mix of both in the latest preview

for my coding thing

[magic fossil]

somehow

Mojang vector is slow as fuck

[toxic horizon]

wouldn't it be faster if you used the integrated API one?

that doesn't make sense

[cerulean quarry]

it does

[celest sluice]

Last I heard it's because of the time taken of interacting between JS and the game itself. Keeping all the calculations in JS is better

[magic fossil]

yup

[celest sluice]

Data conversion or something I forgot

[magic fossil]

It does tho

[toxic horizon]

ok, that makes it make more sense

[sleek grail]

What about VectorUtils or something

[magic fossil]

Yeah but that can be improve on Mojng part

[cerulean quarry]

they allocate new vector for every math operation via Vector, so its vaste of resourcces, but in poor js you can just change that number inside that vector

i wish just for Vector3 prototypes 😭

[magic fossil]

My team have a lib for it, it's super fast

[celest sluice]

I wonder if the placing of multiple blocks at once can be improved they had an ability to set permutations to multiple blocks at once?

[cerulean quarry]

i mean for Vector3 prototype so you are not forced to create your own when some native value returns

[celest sluice]

If interacting with the API is the bottle neck, we need more ways of getting/setting data in groups at a time

[cerulean quarry]

do you know what i mean by prototype right? @magic fossil

[cerulean quarry]

Ya, you can check my suggestion in #1207737567663882330

it could be use for basic world interaction as well

i mean just paste bunch of blocks at once

[magic fossil]

I killed and ate the watchdog

[finite jolt]

😧

[cerulean quarry]

You can check my lib as well, its also one of the fastest libs

[magic fossil]

:3

[cerulean quarry]

there are bunch of math formulas as well

[magic fossil]

Okay

[magic fossil]

It taste good :3

[celest sluice]

The fillBlocks method was a step in the right direction

[finite jolt]

i bet it did

[magic fossil]

Wdym

[cerulean quarry]

ya, but its not really useful since you can not specify what blocks you want in what amount

[magic fossil]

Is there a way to detect player placed blocks and terrain blocks ?

[celest sluice]

It lets you set a bunch of blocks in one go, instead of iterating through all of it

[cerulean quarry]

fill should have to accept array of indexes and palette what that indexes refers to

dimension.fillBlocks([0], [BlockPermutation.resolve("air")], (0,0,0), (1,1,1));

3th param is location to place that array

and last param are dimensions of that array

[celest sluice]

dimension.getBlocks would also be useful

[cerulean quarry]

maybe getBlockPermutations

bc you still call native functions when you have a block

for getting its permutation

[celest sluice]

That too

[magic fossil]

what does this do

[cerulean quarry]

nothing its pseudo feature request

[teal acorn]

not really useful because of unloaded chunks

though it would be cool

[magic fossil]

😦

[plucky cliff]

Is there any variable which takes value of form (1,2,3) in js

[plucky cliff]

Unloaded chunks is based on simulation distance or video distance?

Btw i want target selector class

[teal acorn]

I don't know, I would assume both?

[magic fossil]

Jesus runCommand is our most efficient way to detect and remove blocks

What the hell

[plucky cliff]

It cant be both

[magic fossil]

😦

[plucky cliff]

I still use commands for resource intensive task

Like at first I was giving potion effects by script

[magic fossil]

This is so goofy

[plucky cliff]

But later i used effect command bcz its too good

[teal acorn]

it is simulation distance

[magic fossil]

dimension.fillBlocks({
x: 0,
y: 0,
z: 0
}, {
x: 10,
y: 10,
z: 10
}, "minecraft:endstone", {
matchingBlock: BlockPermutation.resolve("minecraft:air"),
});

what the hell is this

[plucky cliff]

I dont need to add condition for keep this potion amplifier level or dont change timer if previous timer is greater etc

[magic fossil]

We need better block api ngl

This is so goofy

[plucky cliff]

Bad then, anyways ok

[plucky cliff]

Yep, Minecraft itself loads block based on render distance but for us it uses simulation distance ☠️

I hope block events wont have this restrictions

[celest sluice]

Not how it works

Only loaded simulated chunks can have block processes happen in them

[plucky cliff]

But what about video distance based blocks loading

[celest sluice]

Just visual

[prisma niche]

Casual leaks from Minecraft's twitter

https://twitter.com/Minecraft/status/1764682847640514975/photo/1

Minecraft (@Minecraft) on X

We've reworked the Friends Tab in the latest Bedrock Preview:
🟢 Online/offline friends as a list
🟢 Add friends button renamed to Search for players
🟢 No friends empty state
🟢 Improved text-to-speech

Have thoughts? Leave your feedback here: https://t.co/zjfJhKbDse

Twitter · Mar 4, 2024, 4:02 PM

[plucky cliff]

And what if we want to set visuals based on some factors.

[prisma niche]

That ain't deferred. They use shaders

[plucky cliff]

Bcz we cant change states without scripts

[celest sluice]

That would require the block to be simulated

[teal acorn]

would be nice if we could tell a block or chunk to load

[languid tinsel]

Are those worlds with deferred?

[celest sluice]

that's what ticking areas do, but we don't have a good API around that

[magic fossil]

/tickingarea ?

[languid tinsel]

😮 Rtx?

[prisma niche]

That looks like Java type shaders to me

[celest sluice]

Placeholders perhaps

[teal acorn]

I mean't to say a api for ticking area

[magic fossil]

oh

[teal acorn]

something in scripting

[magic fossil]

RunCommand works gine for now tho

Yeah but that'd be cool

and a better way to detect and set block

[celest sluice]

Thing about loading chunks though, is that it can't happen immediately. The game takes time to do it separate from the main server operations

[plucky cliff]

Atleast script should be runable at time of block place regardless of chunk using the new block events api (within its context only)

[quasi wedge]

Now we just need a search bar for worlds 🥺

[chrome plover]

why is there a 9minecraft.com logo in the top right tho lol

[devout barn]

Perhaps world thumbnail testing

[celest sluice]

I suggested something like this before.

system.runInArea(() => {
  // do block stugg
}, min, max);

[devout barn]

Not indicating anything in the world itself

[eternal shoal]

These clouds :00

[plucky cliff]

It seems to be some sort of mini ticking area

[celest sluice]

The UI team seem to not have learnt their lesson about publishing screenshots 😄

[prisma niche]

Ok which one of you did this

[devout barn]

You know they might just be testing world thumbnails, so they can use any image

[prisma niche]

true

[celest sluice]

This happens so many times it's not funny

[rough path]

Reosurce packs

[elfin flower]

mojang can't stop using modded minecraft as placeholder screenshot (impossible)

[devout barn]

Especially since the top image contains the 9minecraft link

[plucky cliff]

I mean enclose it in run interval and you get a full featured ticking area

[devout barn]

Not necessarily meaning any new feature btw, since Marketplace maps already use custom thumbnails
but just testing to make sure it looks good and works on the new play screen UI

[eternal shoal]

That's the point of deferred lol

[magic fossil]

Can we invite all Bedrock Mojangsters here ?

[celest sluice]

Yeah but it doesn't like anything they've worked on recently

[cerulean quarry]

jsut paste nice png to that world folder lmao

[celest sluice]

They haven't gotten back to clouds yet especially

[prisma niche]

Those are placeholders

[chrome plover]

https://www.9minecraft.net/sky-world-map/ this is where the original image is from

[eternal shoal]

We already know that they are working on tonemapping stuff plus they can work on clouds too

[prisma niche]

I'm in a minecraft new tweet

[devout barn]

officially leaked 🤔

[magic fossil]

I invited Felix Jones to BAO

[celest sluice]

They already said they haven't yet though (clouds I mean)

[elfin flower]

ah yes, volumetric cloud on bedrock

[prisma niche]

Ahh yes, 1.22 is end update ||tweet about this||

[celest sluice]

Then there's this

It's not deferred

[plucky cliff]

1.22 too late

[devout barn]

nooo the minecraft news account is gonna take this as fact

[prisma niche]

[eternal shoal]

Change the tonemap, play with the fog settings, add realistic clouds and the deferred will look the same

[elfin flower]

The shadow lighting already tells me that it's java shader tbh

[plucky cliff]

I want 1.21 to include end update too

[prisma niche]

Yea.

[celest sluice]

Yeah. But it's not right now

[magic fossil]

how many minecraft news account do we have ?

[devout barn]

too many

[chrome plover]

this is the other one
https://wallpapers.com/wallpapers/1280x720-minecraft-green-field-kho2ltkv32q7x8v5.html

[eternal shoal]

Tonemap stuff and fog? Ofc you can already do it, only the clouds are puzzling me, but these may be their first tests of new clouds or something

[hoary forge]

fun fact, Mojang has internal tools to test UIs outside the game which are basically similar to the OreUI Viewer that I released a couple of months ago

[celest sluice]

Noticed the post above you showing the fact that these are just placeholders?

[eternal shoal]

Oh

[magic fossil]

Can we ask kayla to send it to us in private ?

[hoary forge]

No.

[teal acorn]

😐

what??

[magic fossil]

[hoary forge]

Leave kayla alone, she already said that she doesn't want to be pinged. Also those tools are under NDA.

[prisma niche]

Yea ^^ This is why you see placeholders of other things

[magic fossil]

I didn't pinged her ?

just joking lol chill out ;-;

[elfin flower]

also it looks like panorama are abit different?

[quasi wedge]

She has been pinged far too much recently under the guise of joking

[magic fossil]

Is that Bedrock or Java ?

[teal acorn]

their no need, you can already use what King made

[magic fossil]

Deffered ?

[chrome plover]

probably java, just a random wallpaper unrelated to deferred

[magic fossil]

#1072983602821861426 right ?

[hasty grotto]

their own proprietary tools or coherent labs' proprietary tools?

[hoary forge]

https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1152585994122567760

[hoary forge]

If I had to guess, their own tools

[limber tiger]

Mojang community manager should be fired ffs

[rough path]

Bro what?

[limber tiger]

How can you do these types of mistakes bro

[rough path]

Its not their fault? The CMs dont do social media

[limber tiger]

They should put attention then

It’s not the first time

They did that a few moment ago too

I don’t know who does the tweets there

But it’s worrying

[rough path]

Its the social media team not the CMs

[limber tiger]

Well the team should probably learn more about Minecraft

[celest sluice]

The UI team needs to be more careful when providing screenshots

[molten axle]

I concur.

[wet shell]

WHAT THE

[hoary forge]

They’re just placeholders

Don’t worry eddy

[wet shell]

NOT FROM 9minecraft😭😭

[wet shell]

Wdym

Like will we get something similar to that

[hoary forge]

Waving foliage?

[wet shell]

Wha

I thought aajabrams said there’s no plans for that

Yet

[hoary forge]

I’m just asking about what you meant lol

[wet shell]

No I meant like why do they have Java shader pics on the Minecraft world

Is there any reason

[hoary forge]

They probably wanted some random Minecraft images just to use as a placeholder to showcase the new interface

[wet shell]

Man I wish they were hinting at something

Related to deferred

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

Also

I noticed the panorama is different

[plush wedge]

The JS is pretty fast, calling the API however is slow since it coverts to and from native values. So in some cases to get good performance you'll write some unusual code. Caching a lot is a good idea.

[silver flume]

They're just writing inefficient code not gonna lie

[ionic ocean]

No, it’s actually pretty bad by my tests. Best to only use scripting where necessary.

[obsidian lark]

How do functions compare?

Bedrock's command interpreter isn't as sophisticated as Java's, so I'd expect performance issues.

[silver flume]

Would replacing scripting with animation controllers or something equivalent provide better performance?

(In certain cases / wherever applicable)

[celest sluice]

Is this new?

[heady sable]

Not really that new

[celest sluice]

Text Background Opacity doesn't seem to do anything

[prisma niche]

That's for titles

/title

For some reason

[tropic chasm]

To allow for easy removal, Im guessing

[rough path]

I thought it was foe the items name in hotvar?

[prisma niche]

Nope

[prisma niche]

When set at 100%, a black box appears behind the title texts, like the hotbar

[tropic chasm]

Yeah

[prisma niche]

This should be for the black texture behind item names

[rough path]

Ah they split it

[prisma niche]

This is for actionbars, not item display names on the hotbar

I mean, it's the name lol

What was I thinking

[willow sequoia]

Is that why actionbar background is always missing

[tropic chasm]

Probably

most strange change ever

[rough path]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/customcomponents?view=minecraft-bedrock-stable i do hope that for item events, durabiloty will just implicitly be subtracted. The current method is just jarring

[ionic ocean]

Yes, or functions

[ionic ocean]

Functions are way better where they can be used.

Most things observed were about 40–60% less performant.

Truly, using the most optimized matching code.

[silver flume]

Wow

[ionic ocean]

When it's needed, it's the best, though.

[silver flume]

Yes, nothing can really compare with the freedom of js

[ionic ocean]

Gonna be a big deal for some performant systems when I get ahold of hasproperty, though.

No more tag relays!

[elfin flower]

Seems new to me, never seen actionbar version before but the text background is pretty much old, and buggy too.

[magic fossil]

this is why we use our own lib whenever possible

[stoic junco]

am i late to this or is this 'get started' button new feature

[magic fossil]

Why do we have "Bedrock Edition" on our logo now

[charred ocean]

There's a resource pack applied that changes logo. You can get it from bedrock tweaks (bedrock equivalent of java's vanilla tweaks. Unofficial port by community)

Here is the "bedrock edition" title resource pack

[charred ocean]

uh yes. It was added recently.

[azure spade]

When Preview?

It is unlikely to be preview day my dudes

When do Previews usually happen?

Previews usually occur on a Wednesday or Thursday between <t:1703692800:t> and <t:1703700000:t>

Mar 5, 2024, 9:02 AM

[gusty sedge]

Yeah, requiring scripting for something as simple as making a custom pickaxe lose durability is not ideal. Especially with how it's done. "You see, you can't just damage the item. You need to make a new item in your script, damage that one, and put it in their slot"

[teal acorn]

containerslot allows you to modify the item directly without setting it back into the slot

[celest sluice]

Oh that's interesting. I was wondering what that's for

[ionic ocean]

I… did not see that happening. Should I retest?

Like… are you sure?

[teal acorn]

#1200276503997468773 message

[ionic ocean]

Yeah, I've seen this reported multiple times. Don't get me wrong — it's possible I made a mistake. I'll double-check later.

[celest sluice]

Aw the link you sent says you can't do get component, but that's needed to modify durability

[austere mirage]

1.20.70 today ?

[ionic ocean]

Usually it's with the .22 Preview.

[rough path]

Next week likely

[past wharf]

🫠 anyone have an account on the feedback website ?

[rough path]

Why?

Just use the feedback discord

[past wharf]

i can't

it's because it isn't just one feedback

it's a global criticism of bedrock ui

[rough path]

There is a ui chanbel

[rough path]

Then make multiple posts?

[past wharf]

bruh you want more than 40 posts ?

[rough path]

The feedback site has the same guidelines as well

[rough path]

Just put "General Criticism"

[past wharf]

ok

[limber tiger]

https://x.com/prowl8413/status/1765143761498096057?s=46

Prowl8413 (@Prowl8413) on X

Minecraft parity difference of the day:
On Bedrock Edition, trading with villagers multiple times will make their prices continually go up.

On Java Edition, trading with villagers multiple times will make their prices go down....

Make it make sense........

Twitter · Mar 5, 2024, 10:34 PM

Never paid attention to this lmao

[willow sequoia]

Bedrock makes more sense here

“Hmm yes, I’m selling a lot of x item, I’d better lower the prices so I can… make more profit…?”

[magic fossil]

Java villagee expands his factory everytime you buy

they mastered Capitalism

[azure spade]

When Preview?

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is with great honour to announce that it might be preview day

When do Previews usually happen?

Previews usually occur on a Wednesday or Thursday between <t:1703692800:t> and <t:1703700000:t>

Mar 6, 2024, 7:02 AM

[plucky cliff]

Shutup

[sonic musk]

💀 bruh you used the command

[charred ocean]

yeah

[worthy gulch]

Why the frog tho

[heady sable]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-wednesday-wednesday-my-dudes-gif-13951537

[wet shell]

It’s preview day

Hopefully

I ponder what deferred changes we will get today

[lethal pumice]

there is something different in the air today

[sonic musk]

If it does come out what features/changes you expect/want

[wet shell]

Indeed there is

[lethal pumice]

it feels special

[wet shell]

says it in British accent

[sonic musk]

Smoke ,coal is no joke

[wet shell]

Moar deferred changes

[sonic musk]

Be more specific
I would expect data driven sub surface scattering or particle pbr

[wet shell]

Or maybe reflections

👀

[sonic musk]

Maybe, metallic maps got effed in .20 preview so as a fix they introduce reflections 👀

[wet shell]

I wish I could play deferred with someone else

Like multiplayer

[sonic musk]

Wait 🗿

I will play when my internet gets better

[wet shell]

How about when preview releases I join your world

And we can test new deferred changes

If they bring them

[sonic musk]

I was joking sorry
I meant to say my internet will never get better so no

[dreamy bison]

bro had that locked and loaded 💀

[wet shell]

Then how do you update Minecraft preview 💀

[sonic musk]

Also when new preview releases I am sleeping and have to go work from 5am
So I play new preview after like 12 hours after it releases

[wet shell]

Smasher has a job confirmed

[sonic musk]

1 hour wait 🗿

[sonic musk]

Smasher not a reddit mod confirmed

[rich vault]

Stable when

[elfin flower]

Stable when

[finite jolt]

🤔 is it stable day?

[toxic horizon]

no

[finite jolt]

oh aight

[toxic horizon]

stables at least from the current trends shown in #1019665690233405500 seem to be when 1.xx.22-preview releases

[magic fossil]

Preview when ?

[sonic musk]

in 2 hours

[prisma niche]

Wolf variants this week in Java

[celest sluice]

Wolf variants!

[ionic ocean]

Link?

[celest sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom-link-sinking-gif-2178397712527896378

[prisma niche]

mobile slow

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-24w10a

[celest sluice]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-24w10a

[chrome plover]

YOOOO

[celest sluice]

Oh you already did it

[prisma niche]

hehehe

[sleek grail]

Cool wolf variants

[prisma niche]

playing snapshot rn

[sonic musk]

anyway see you tomorrow for new preview

[toxic horizon]

wait what

[sleek grail]

Am the only one who thinks this looks ugly

[toxic horizon]

yes

[sonic musk]

yes

[celest sluice]

Probably

[sonic musk]

he looks so cute

[elfin flower]

le chocolate dog

[chrome plover]

best update in minecraft history

[sonic musk]

le muddy dog

just like the muddy pig

[elfin flower]

honestly it been ages since the cat has their own variants

[celest sluice]

The new default doggo

[sonic musk]

bruh idk why but java has like a old school vibe every time i see it

bedrock seems kinda bright

[prisma niche]

Cute

[celest sluice]

That colour reminds me of a pup

[past wharf]

The Frozen oceans are so different on java, it shocks me every Time I see

[sonic musk]

bruh

they look scary

[hasty grotto]

i thought they were never going to add new wolf variants

[prisma niche]

@ionic ocean looks like ur pfp

[rich vault]

Lol

[ionic ocean]

African Wild Dogs?

[hasty grotto]

maybe they need more unique models?

[toxic horizon]

Hyena looking dogs

[sonic musk]

cheetah and hyena knockoffs

[elfin flower]

we have hyena at home

hyena at home:

[sonic musk]

colors are kinda similar to the arctic fox

[hasty grotto]

reminds me of this

Anger as stray dog painted orange and black to look like tiger

[elfin flower]

this one might be annoying for me tbh

I like spruce forests and mostly get some stuff at night

might probably mistake them as spider

[eternal shoal]

Yes

[sleek grail]

k

[prisma niche]

I like this one and the snow one

[eternal shoal]

It would be nice if some variants had a slightly different model or size

[prisma niche]

That would be cool

[half depot]

AAAAAA NEW PUPPOS

I was literally just talking about wolf variants the other day

[prisma niche]

yay add-ons are new https://youtu.be/HnWFq1nN8eQ?si=33p3s24ouTE-_b4B

[sleek grail]

They are, at least for the marketplace

[celest sluice]

Can't watch right now. Lemme know if they mention preview being tomorrow or not

[prisma niche]

Uhh no mention afaik

[celest sluice]

Ok cool

So there's still a chance

[dreamy bison]

i think these look great

some could benefit from tweaked models perhaps

[chrome plover]

"8 new wolf variants are available right now"

[celest sluice]

Even better

[quasi wedge]

NEW DOGGIE

?

best update

[toxic horizon]

doggies*

[quasi wedge]

now to casually expand on this so there are variants in the nether that set enemies on fire and in the end that teleport

no one steal this thanks

[toxic horizon]

plurals 🙄

[toxic horizon]

I read "overworld" and I thought there was something under about nether or end variants 😔

[heady sable]

The excitement is still very real but at least it isn't as much as it used to be

Making slowly improvements

[cloud notch]

I kinda wish the black wolf had a tiny bit of white or grey to it tbh

[quasi wedge]

just let us dye wolves

!

[sonic musk]

New marketplace add-on coming soon
"Dyable wolves"

[sleek grail]

That one bug from 1.16 which I don't know if they've fixed yet or not

[sleek grail]

Won't happen

[hasty grotto]

i hope the models will also have some variation

[sonic musk]

Ngl mutations would be good

[hasty grotto]

we need evolution system

yes

yes

wolf battles

wolf arenas and wolf gyms

[sonic musk]

Pokewolf

Or wolfemon

[hasty grotto]

i have a feeling preview isnt coming today

put that out of context on twitter

[rough path]

Did...did a new preview drop?

[charred ocean]

seems like im late for party since there is a snapshot

[cloud notch]

Yeah, new wolf variations

[chrome plover]

not yet

[rough path]

Not a prwview

[cloud notch]

Oh

[magic fossil]

in 10

9

8

7

6

5

[sonic musk]

New preview prolly tomorrow

[prisma niche]

not time yet

1 more hour

[charred ocean]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/24509955193229-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-20-80-21

lol

[chrome plover]

bruh

[charred ocean]

can't believe @chrome plover fell for that uwu

[slender wren]

https://twitter.com/Minecraft/status/1765408339075158262

Minecraft (@Minecraft) on X

Meet the new wolf pack!

🐺 8 new wolf variations that live in their own biomes
🐺 Some wolves are rarer than others
🐺 The original wolf is now the pale wolf

Try it out now on both Beta/Preview & Snapshot: https://t.co/ZfblnkYABY

Twitter · Mar 6, 2024, 4:05 PM

Try it out now on both Beta/Preview & Snapshot:

[rough path]

Is it safe to say now that I was a proud armadillo voter?

[slender wren]

Sure

[prisma niche]

[slender wren]

But crab is still better

[dreamy bison]

honestly still want the crab but i am very satisfied with the armadillo

the new way of doing these mob votes is sooo much better

[chrome plover]

proud phantom voter

[dreamy bison]

by attaching it onto an existing feature

so that an old feature can get more fleshed out in tandem with the new mob

[magic fossil]

Preview when

[prisma niche]

45 mins

[slender wren]

I absolutely agree with this

NOW

[magic fossil]

yeah ,they just straight up ignore us lol

[cloud notch]

Now Mojang should give us Bedrock players the ability to offhand everything

[eternal shoal]

How do you know

[prisma niche]

good point. I don't :p

[charred ocean]

it's just the timing

usually comes out now every time

[languid tinsel]

Happy preview day!

[shut robin]

1.20.5/1.20.80 will be massive for a minor update

[obsidian lark]

1.20.5 literally breaks every data pack.

A couple things are impossible now too, but the devs want to fix those cases.

[shut robin]

even content-wise, they're doing tons behind the scenes but the player-facing changes with the wolves, armadillo stuff etc is massive

[cloud notch]

Think one day Bedrock single-player will have the ability to actually pause the game?

[lapis sierra]

Nope

[magic fossil]

impossible ?

[obsidian lark]

Some of the item modifier features I use aren't possible now. CustomModelData can't be set from NBT storage (Java's version of dynamic properties).

[charred ocean]

easy tip: just don't update ezzz

[finite jolt]

pausing is for wimps

[devout barn]

Just alt tab 😉

[devout barn]

Isn’t there a component for that?

[obsidian lark]

There is, but you can't dynamically set the value.

[hoary forge]

Oh right. You can’t do that anymore

[devout barn]

huh that's interesting

intended?

oh I guess there is just no dynamic functionality with item components

[cursive pond]

Wow I didn't even realize that was being removed

Oof

[devout barn]

What are the minimum specs for deferred graphics on Windows again?

[rough path]

No official specs, just need to support Dx12

[devout barn]

gotcha, thanks

[charred ocean]

I wish i could run deferred on my android mobile but okay at least I got it to run on PC

[wet shell]

I wonder what deferred on switch would look like

[celest sluice]

Most likely the same, but with less features. Maybe it won't even have fog

[slender wren]

I think that on the contrary it would have A TON of fog.
To hide the 1 chunk render distance

[devout barn]

How's performance with deferred btw? Is it running a lot better than before?

[prisma niche]

Hard to say, really.

It does run better since it launched, afaik

[half depot]

it can still have some really bad lag spikes though

especially around point lights and glass

[devout barn]

hmm interesting

I think I saw in the qna that optimizations will come after features, so I'm looking forward to that

I tried deferred again last night, using smokey's pack, and medium settings give me good fps, while ultra settings absolutely kill it

(and I have rtx 3050 laptop gpu)

[prisma niche]

Each pack will give the same result. Though, it depends what blocks has pointlight. Most of us disabled point light from Lava because it kills your performance

[devout barn]

also noticed some light leaks still happening around cave openings, I guess fixing that is still a WIP?

[prisma niche]

They're trying

[stoic orchid]

Hope you all join us! #announcements message

[tropic chasm]

Kayla should mention us

😛

yay they mentioned my question

[prisma niche]

W

[celest sluice]

Doh! I almost forgot about it

[celest sluice]

Only 20 people. Dang. 😦

[tropic chasm]

😔

That’s understandable though, is a Friday at 3pm for many

#1214988608654540850 message

[tropic chasm]

Timezones:

[celest sluice]

time zones

[prisma niche]

[tropic chasm]

@rough path #1214988608654540850 message 🎉

They plan to make it public

Time to make one funny question

[celest sluice]

But here's a question. When will add-ons be add-ons?

[tropic chasm]

Yeah… when will Addons be Addons?

NGL Kayla should send the invite link to this server after the event ends…

https://discord.gg/zbfNSSAT9k

[past wharf]

Still better than "bedrock mods"

[tropic chasm]

Who actually gets the dragon breath

I only go to the end to get elytras

[toxic horizon]

?

[tropic chasm]

Context

[toxic horizon]

I don't get dragon's breath because I usually only need it for arrow types, which I can just get from using Cauldrons

[tropic chasm]

She really said “we really try to get to the end fast to get the dragon breath”

[celest sluice]

Uhh

[tropic chasm]

No one does that 😆

[celest sluice]

I bet they're gonna pass my question

[tropic chasm]

I’m already done, two of my questions has been answered

I wasn’t expecting that at all

[wet shell]

How do I even ask questions I’m muted

[celest sluice]

Really?

[wet shell]

We’re all muted

In the vc

[prisma niche]

in the text channel....

[tropic chasm]

You do it in https://discord.com/channels/302094807046684672/1214984542595719229

[celest sluice]

Dude. Wrong channel

[wet shell]

Where

Is the text channel

[celest sluice]

Look up. Now down

[tropic chasm]

.

lol

[wet shell]

Oh

[celest sluice]

I saw your question. They already answered that #1214988608654540850 message

[tropic chasm]

YESSSSSS #1214988608654540850 message

So happy to hear that

[wet shell]

Well hopefully someone makes one

[chrome plover]

eyyy that's great

[celest sluice]

Ore UI solution maybe? 👀

[tropic chasm]

Maybe

I’ve been doing it with JSON UI and /title

Wait no that’s not the command, /dialogue

@prisma niche #1214988608654540850 message

[past wharf]

I have a question : will they release vertical slabs add-ons ?

[tropic chasm]

Ask it

[past wharf]

is it textual ?

[celest sluice]

That depends on the partners

[past wharf]

?

[celest sluice]

Answering this

[tropic chasm]

text question, yes

[past wharf]

ok

[tropic chasm]

Happy with this, sort of 🤷‍♂️#1214988608654540850 message

[past wharf]

where ?

[tropic chasm]

.

[celest sluice]

So basically, wait until we get custom biomes

[tropic chasm]

Yea

[celest sluice]

Ok yeah they totally passed my question xD

[tropic chasm]

No

[celest sluice]

They answered it?

[tropic chasm]

Yes #1214988608654540850 message

[celest sluice]

Oh how did I miss that?

[tropic chasm]

You blind 😔

[celest sluice]

Wait a minute

They answered it just now

And it was a pretty vague answer at that. Oh well. Probably some NDA stuff they can't say

[past wharf]

in fact it is more a feedback

not for qna

[celest sluice]

Just ask in the form of a question

[tropic chasm]

I mean… it can be a technical question

Vertical slabs have been controversial for years.

[celest sluice]

Yeah but it's about add-ons sooo

[tropic chasm]

Yea

Lmao the voice

“…and that’s why… you make a dirt house to survive the night…”

[celest sluice]

@tropic chasm

Can add-ons add after-end gameplay?
We'd need a way of detecting the lack of ender dragons right?

[tropic chasm]

We have

[celest sluice]

What's the feature? I wasn't listening. 😦

[tropic chasm]

Same 😭

[celest sluice]

Dang it!

[finite jolt]

😔 i shoulda joined the minecraft discord server along time ago lol

[celest sluice]

Is anyone recording?

[finite jolt]

im not i prolly should be tho

[celest sluice]

Oh they're wrapping up now

[tropic chasm]

That was fun

[stoic orchid]

I mentioned this community without specifically calling it out. Hope that's ok. I didn't feel comfortable calling out specific names. But I appreciated seeing you all there 🙂

[tropic chasm]

Yeah I heard it (:
That’s totally understandable, didn’t said that as literal

[wet shell]

Imagine mojang dev said my name

[finite jolt]

💀

[wet shell]

😢

[stoic orchid]

We say your name a bunch internally 🙂 Specifically when we were getting deferred ready on iOS. "big eddy spaghetti is going to be so happy!"

[wet shell]

😀

I am

[rough path]

@stoic orchid thanks for the qna! Didnt get to tune in but saw the text channel

[wet shell]

I mean who wouldn’t want Minecraft to look like this?!

[stoic orchid]

Would be interested in whether you all would want future Q&A's from creator folks to be with voice, or if you prefered our only text stuff we've historically done.

[wet shell]

It would be cool to have voice

Qna

[finite jolt]

🤔 I would think text for keeping things archive but voice is also pretty cool if we have someone recording it! always keeping things archived is top priority in my book

[eternal shoal]

with voices(in my head)

[wet shell]

What about both?

[tropic chasm]

I liked what I experienced today. More people talking would be… unorganized. In addition, having the answer as text makes it easier for people to translate them if they don’t fully understand English & make it possible to re-check them.

[rich vault]

All questions are answered in text channel, right? The issue with VC is that all conversations aren't on record, so important info might get lost

[tropic chasm]

And even though they were on record, it would be hard to look back for them

[eternal shoal]

Minecraft to look like a dude with a beard? me

[finite jolt]

i think if we had voice we could bring one up at a time to ask questions

[wet shell]

It’s tycoon tony skin

From marketplace

I’ve been using it for 2 years

[rough path]

We're discussinf internally on the mod team on the protocol for recordings

[toxic horizon]

well, Discord is introducing a clip feature, so maybe it will be in the future 🤷‍♂️

[elfin flower]

me

i despise the rounded sun

[half depot]

that occured due to some changes that happened

pretty sure thats my deferred pack in that shot which i have since corrected the round sun

[toxic horizon]

me.
It's too bright

[wet shell]

What

Y’all have very different taste

[wet shell]

No it’s not 😊

[toxic horizon]

For me it is

I have sensory issues

[eternal shoal]

Gaslighting I see

good

[toxic horizon]

Noise, touch and lights

[toxic horizon]

He ain't gaslighting

You're gaslighting him into thinking he's gaslighting us

[eternal shoal]

why are you revealing my intentions?

[toxic horizon]

I'm not

I didn't say anything about your intentions

you're revealing your own intentions

[eternal shoal]

what

[toxic horizon]

yes

[eternal shoal]

yesn't

[toxic horizon]

nos

[wet shell]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

[toxic horizon]

DihydronMonoxide

[finite jolt]

😈 SPEED

[toxic horizon]

NitrogenOxide

[eternal shoal]

But-2-enoic acid

[finite jolt]

but 2 oxygen 1 hydrogen

[toxic horizon]

2-butenoic acid?

[wet shell]

A reminder that every ss I take is at low

[eternal shoal]

CH3CH=CH-COOH

[wet shell]

Cause if I take it higher= not so good FPS

[finite jolt]

🫥 isopropayl alchohol

[toxic horizon]

A scientist walks into a bar

He says to the bartender, "H2O please"

Another guy comes up beside him and says, "H2O too please"

The other guy dies

[finite jolt]

💀

[wet shell]

Literally the water boy from water boy

[toxic horizon]

Why did he die?

[finite jolt]

cus h2o2 isnt water

🫃🏿

[toxic horizon]

correct

[eternal shoal]

Live, Laugh, Love, Hydrogen Peroxide

[finite jolt]

u cant drink hydrogen peroxide?

💀

oopsie

[toxic horizon]

correct

[toxic horizon]

no, you cannot

I don't know why you would ask that as a question smh

[hoary forge]

Please keep on topic

[eternal shoal]

oh no! my favorite juice 🥺

[toxic horizon]

mmmm

[toxic horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-no-shake-head-danny-de-vito-no-way-gif-13459123

goodbye for 30mins or so

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[finite jolt]

😢 death

to me

[finite jolt]

YIPPEE

[elfin flower]

Well i mean, cube game was supposed to be a cube, not actual circle

pixelated circle looks okay to me, but that actual circle? yeah nope

probably gonna fit more with 1028x texture packs in general

[wet shell]

most java shaders have round suns

and i don’t see y’all complain about that

[past wharf]

On these shaders, the sun is smaller

Personnaly I also prefer cube sun

[past wharf]

Because*

[elfin flower]

well if it done right then yeah.

but if it becomes insanely noticable (aka the saturation is too high and the sun is too large) then, that's the issue.

most java shaders does it that it's becomes less noticable like the sun is kinda smaller (some are extremely small for idrk reason) and covered godrays with it.

[wet shell]

Well it’s a test version of pleagued pbr

So the sun is a little too saturated

I think it looks nice tho

[elfin flower]

honestly i'd prefer having godrays on the sun rather than having any sun shapes

it looks better that way

[wet shell]

Now I see why we can make pbr packs

And have data driven folders

To edit deferred to our liking

I like it this way

[elfin flower]

kinda same but at the same time nope.

the tech is extremely limited so, there's no way that any people could add additional graphics stuff like godray or probably something that deferred doesnt have.

[celest sluice]

No way, or no official way