#General Discussion
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Same, your comment's better though, more concise
They could have worded it better i think.
Probably, but I think they just don't really acknowledge stuff outside the Marketplace
In promos that is
One of the few times they ever showcase a mod was in the Java+Bedrock bundle showcase
And that was a Java mod I think right?
Yeah I agree, after watching X's video, seems like he only got his news from the article. The article really made it sound like add-ons are a new thing.
They've showcased Java mods at Minecraft Live too I think
most players don't know about Add-Ons. The average Minecraft player isn't a BAO user π
Am I average Kayla?
makes sense when you think about
The average player is a 12 year old addicted to minecoins
below average
Imo that just necessitates better wording even more
that's not true either
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Makes sense, but what is the number of players that don't know about them? I get that most call them mods, but are there so many players that are not aware of Add-Ons at all?
Most people who read that article wouldn't know addons already exist
how would you have written it?
oh incredibly
mojangster is here so dont u dare say anything on marketplace lol
you will not believe how many people I see still say that mods and texture packs are only paid on bedrock
Mostly java players
even bedrock players too lol
Huh?
but console players can't access third party add-ons so i get it
today, add-ons were effectively added to console for the first time
yea ^^
Or can only edit entities
haha yep
2015 knowledge
bet you when deferred packs release on the marketplace, there's gonna be a "there's SHADERS on BEDROCK now?" wave
Just clarify that add-ons are "now available on the Marketplace," but maybe mention that they were already a thing. Maybe something like "have you spent hours scrolling through MCPEDL looking for the perfect add-on? Well look no further, because add-ons are coming to the marketplace!" or something along those lines
They ain't gonna mention MCPEDL
Marketing has done a great job making it so most people think the marketplace is the only way to get custom content π
ποΈ i think if kayla and the team pestered the MC Live team to have a longer section or pester the YT team to have a "dev diary" on the history of addons
MC Live do have add-ons sections, but I think a lot of people tune it out lol
The history of add-ons exists out there, if people search. I don't understand why we need to give them a history lesson today.
Last year it was barely a section. What did they even do last year?
I still remember Jason showing his tomato crop monsters
The point of this is to be easy and clear to get these Add-Ons, not force players to sit through MCU movies just to understand what's going on.
I think it is because most Java players call it "mods" and some other stuff, which I think could cause more confusion 
Just seems like Mojang on their socials just mention addons once a year. Ik its not your domain but something worth complaining
You showed us how to make a banana duck at least
Why are you concerned about what Java players think/say?
Minecraft has sometimes posted about community tools like Blockbench to get the community involved in add-ons
people like free stuff and they do yt search for that, so u guys are lying that people dont know about mcpedl or free addons
Well, when they say bedrock sucks, they always mention the Marketplace,and how Add-Ons and Textures Packs are not free on bedrock, nothing else.
I think it would be cool if they posted about the official add-on docs too π
Again, not true. We've done many campaigns covering Blockbench wizards.
yeah ,java community HATES us
despise is the word I'd use
Yeah true, but, seems like not a lot of emphasis really or reach π . Yall got DanTDM to make banans and yet people still didnt know
like seriously folks. today is a happy day. rising tides float all boats, and all that.
Anything a Java player say is invalid at this point tbh
Don't get me wrong, this is awesome!
Yeah we love this
Iβm very happy with that change
Well, probably not Poggy
Ofc huge kudos to Mojang for making this happen π . Must have been a year in the making
Personally I think it's great console players can share in on the fun with Add-ons, and that there is more flexibility with the stuff you can get on the Marketplace now
Marketplace still has some improvements to be made, but yes today is a happy day π
years. We needed things like scripting and block and item components in place from a technical level, at least.
Content Review could never possibly catch thieves/offenders for hobbyist stuff, anyway. The concern about theft, etc., is worthless.
The worries and concerns can wait for tomorrow! Let's celebrate them today π
Heck! Console Players like switch and playstation get to experience Add-Ons for the first time ever
Without relying on PC/mobile users :D
No Hate is better
Yea, it's awesome!
So exciting!
Next: Cloud storage for addons and stuff
Wrongggg
I play my own Addons on switch because realms
their commands are better
Will Mojang be publishing their own add-ons?
their redstone are better
I'm also hopeful that world templates will be a bit better. With standalone add-ons now, world templates can have focus put on the worlds themselves
Yes, Mojang will port BOB
I also now agree with this. Being worried about our stuff from being stolen is pointless
In the future, that's a possibility
Fr, we gonna see Lydia's alligator-lotl again?
That was fire
can minecraft be turned to a game engine in near future?
If youre allowed to answer, was getting standalone addons one of youe very first goals when joining mojang?
Like, I feel like Mojang could make incredible, silly stuff down the road. Little DLCs, etc.
It would be awesome!
That might not be seen well
People already complain about vanilla adding too little, then people will complain about development time being used for mods instead of for vanilla
Will we finally see an Add-On made by kayla?!
Vertical slabs :lul:
Minecraft hasn't really made first party worlds before so I don't know why they'd start making addons now
It's kind of a bad look anyway
Mashup packs can finally let us build with their blocks
They will soon announce biomes updates comming back- in the marketplace!
and mob with their mobs
First expect Java marketplace though
#coppergolem
^^
Editor mode will feature a biome editor first :)
I guess I'm just enthusastic for more "official" content from Mojang. It's been a little dry these last 2 years. (Admittedly, it was an incredible 2 years before that.)
If custom biomes returns to add-ons, I can totally see that as a whole new category on the marketplace
I'm not responsible for Marketplace directly, so it isn't correct to say it was one of my priorities. But definitely it was something many of us wanted to see and we've been working towards it for a while.
Also, Dungeons and Legends diedβ¦
In very different ways too o7
I've been wondering. How do you guys take these critics from such a split community, especially aroun the marketplace?
Gotcha, again, congrats to you and those involved for making this happen π
I already have an add-on entity as part of the MC Live 2022 pack we releases.
I think we've had lots of awesome official content with massive updates like Aquatic and Nether, but now the focus is on boosting the community to be able to make awesome content too
And I think both are good :)
I hope y'all make a lot of money on this. I always hated maps, and people didn't jump on the world-gen aspects of random-seed worlds like I'd wished. "Mods", though? That sounds great.
Yup, add-ons on marketplace are a net positive in any case. But I'm not sure about "rising tides", deferred didn't help community shaders.
We'll just have to wait and see
It makes me sad when I see the community say bad things about the marketplace. Because I beleive it's an important place for players to get inspired, and for creators to earn a living and gain an audience.
At the very least, I hope this helps add-ons gain more traction
Better than on Java where you can get 89531193 downloads on something and earn a total of like $4,000. π€£
Well, I will admint I was going nuts about nothing. Though, Add-Ons on the marketplace is still a massive win for us all! We love what ya'll do β€οΈ
"community shaders" is pretty narrow. Did it help the broader community with visual creativity? I'd say, yes. And it's still early days.
The only bad thing i have about the mp is the apps are closed π
I would love to see comments somehow implemented for the Marketplace, would make content a lot more easier to judge and you can see what others think
But it can pose a moderation problem so idk
But it did make better graphics more accessible
better report button
And the shader community is learning how to make even better shaders now
Also deferred is still in development, things could change
It's an improving system, just like the rest of the add-on framework
The only negative is the lack of "official" custom shader support
Yea. I am positive about Marketplace Add-Ons. Dunno what went through me a while ago... 
I think it just takes time. There've been a few incidents that have caused a loss of trust. And the Java community dominates narrative, and they seem to think everything should be freeβ¦
Realms also exist on java too
I think this is what started the whole "bedrock sucks because of marketplace" stuff
Not if you make your content paid. There is potential for decent income, especially if your project gets viral. E.g. physics mode
I'm also excited seeing Java creators putting out official ports on the Marketplace
I still push back on this. A key pillar of Bedrock is cross-platform. So I really don't like tech solutions that aren't cross-platform. A creator can't maximize the audience for their work without cross-platform being important.
Only hope though the theft problem doesn't come back with reuploaded packs and all
Whenever a java player mentions the marketplace, their opinion is automatically invalid.
for living part i agree just like i just saw a mineplex server revival related job posting, it was paying 4000usd per month. can u disclose how much average servers earn per month
That's not a good way to look at it
I correct : Whenever a java player mentions bedrock, their opinion is automatically invalid.
Of course I cannot. (I also don't personally know)
They always complain about it though. "On bedrock you pay for skins and that which is free on java"
makes no sense
not even minimum?
bcz i thought servers might be earning 4000usd monthly, but here he is giving it to per user lol
I agree that this is certainly not the sort of thing Minecraft would want as a cross-platform feature, but from a creator perspective, we love the control it provided for us. If there can at least be a way to customize shaders without compiling new ones that would be fine
The thing some people do not notice, is that the Marketplace is a full time job for most people.
$4,000 / month would also be well below the average salary of a game developer in the USA.
i would personally rather trade certain features for a more powerful and faster API
There are so many people that do it as their job to make a living and to pay their bills.
True, deferred is a net positive as well. Community of shader enthusiasts is definitely smaller, but it still does exist, even despite the fact that shaders aren't supported officially. I'm sure if they were, the community around it could've been much larger, after all the only platforms incapable of running shaders are consoles, playstation in particular
I get that you'd like this, but we always need to prioritize. π
Tbh, if the marketplace did not exist, I would not have had the motivation to keep creating content.
idk if mineplex is usa base or not so cant say anything on them
I also would like custom dimensions, but I know that's very far away
Not saying you need to come up with a custom shader solution soon
I'd say the marketplace is the best thing to happen to bedrock. 
I had a spit take
I might do marketplace as a part-time job in the future
game would have died
I definitely think having cross platform in mind and prioritizing that is a good thing
At least will save you the "where is this on console" comments lol
My monitor is a little wet now. Thanks Poggy
Your opinion changed 180Β° lul
shush! :3
what I do now :<
I don't think Marketplace is a bad concept at all, in fact the idea originated from the community themselves
Poggy is the result you find when you look up "yes-man" in urban dictionary lol
And even Java players have asked for a Java Marketplace
marketplace is not bad but i believe code stealer partners are in it
Java players also still ask for an official modding API, which Bedrock has been making
Also while it's relevant, I have a question about something that may be a little complicated due to cross-platform
I think the modding community would implode
I was too fast to judge marketplace Add-Ons. I had to take a step back to realize what I was worried about was wrong and for nothing. Sorry about that.
They should add the marketplace to Java, Lol
But then they need an excuse to sell skins
Waiting for the C++ API rn
use bdsx
Will we ever, be it scripting or molang or any other way, have some native way to detect specific inputs from the player? I'm talking WASD, controller, touch, sneak, jump, etc. I understand some of those are a little redundant, but janky workarounds will only get you so far.
I made a request for that a while ago
It's definitely one of the things we need. Legends has a system for it too
Link? I'll upvote it
also lemme just say the teams behind all the technical stuff beyond vanilla are doing amazing
so much stuff has happened last year and this year too, and it's only 2 months into this year
Sorry, it's a private request
Ah ok
There is potential security risk for keyloggers
I'll admit, I do see controller being somewhat tricky
me too
True
How? You can't phone home
What if there is a bug
Even if there was no security risk, it's still not a good idea to listen for keys directly
It would also be beneficial to voice your cincerns in the feedback discord. Links are pinned
The player should map those keys to inputs like what is already done
Yup, that sound much more reasonable. Don't listen for keys directly but only provide input mappings that can be changed
Gtg after this message, but the way I currently see it is a script event that returns an input (not a key), cuz obviously you wouldn't want it to break if people rebind WASD
so i checked now and marketplace addons dont get copied to worlds folder
Interesting. So what happens if you upload it to a realm?
i will tell it when my next free trial is available
"next free trial"? Can free trials regenerate?
For realms, it's probably similar to worlds from the marketplace. For third party servers, it probably doesn't work, just like marketplace worlds
yep, after every 2 3 releases
That's really interesting
I just checked, and they are, of course, encrypted like marketplace worlds, so they will likely have the same outcome on realms (working) and servers (not working)
id hope they work on realms, that would suck if not lol
Realms are one of the ways Mojang makes money. If they didn't work, they'd lose a decent profit.
And to clarify, I'm not mad about Realms existing. I'm just mad that third-party servers can't use encrypted worlds/add-ons
hm is it like a technical inability? or does the game just not allow you to
I haven't personally tried, but I've read many things by people saying that BDS doesn't allow Marketplace worlds
interesting
I know those packs are stored in premium cache folder. And bds has its own premium cache in a questionable directory I think
also mojang allowing trial renewal seems to be marketting technique
how many times i will keep reuploading world to new realm
at some point, i will have to buy due to large world and not losing members
I will verify if it works later
realms are also the only way to share worlds in-game and transfer worlds between devices
soo while i have no idea if it's intended for you to get multiple free trials, does seem pretty sweet
not true
one drive can be used to share worlds live btw pcs
using mklink shortcuts
hm ok
I agree that input APIs are something we need. We're definitely thinking about how to do it.
This would honestly be so cool
Just tested it, and this is what happened to the HTTYD marketplace map when I put it on BDS
that would usher in another huge era of mapmapking, like camera command did
So yeah, it doesn't work properly
can u tell realm trial renewal is official or not
bcz if not, i will stop talking about it and you should forget about this chat
if yes then well and good
ποΈ Upcoming Input API feature toggle
nothing is ever confirmed until it ships
Well, already got us excited :3
I'll see myself out
Unless it is something deprecated π’
Ship API confirmed

The Boats and .... Bears update??
That was literally the first word that came to mind...
If we can make planes fly, they can finally fix that one bug
It's aboat to get exciting
Kayla, don't give into pier pressure about adding more boats. They are just being stern. Don't let them barge into your development.
Kayla is just the best.
You think I should I make a suggestion about input reading?
And again, just to clarify, I'm not talking about reading actual keys. I know what the consequences of that are lmao
Doesnt hurt to make suggestione
Keystrokes, it is the beginning
Ships us native c++ apis pleaseee
or making molang an official scripting lang ,because it is faster than js
The marketplace is why I started making my stuff too. I at one point wanted to be on there to make money. As sour as it may sound, now that I'm more capable- I really don't ever want to be on the Marketplace in it's current form.
I would love to see an addon « faster minecarts » for April fools
Using my motivation on cash grab maps that are made because spending months on large projects that might not do well would have destroyed me
rip
I said that wrong, brain is fried from work. I just don't want to work on uninspired content junk
that's what a lot of packs on the market place seem like
don't worry, I think I understood π
It has to be, it's wildly inefficient to spend months on a project
If that project doesn't profit, your whole studio collapses
That sentence is usually how my brain thinks
ye
I'm still pissed that FTB doesn't update their goddamn stoneblock
Its due to the marketplace that I build up my skills over the years for the hopes to join a team one day.
like it's not even playable past stone tools
Because the add-ons they use aren't updated
they're just made once and not bothered being updated
And they're still on the marketplace
I wasted 11euros on it because I had to buy it on 2 different accounts to get it to work because my sister wanted to play it on her playstation but it would always crash on first load
so I had to buy it on my laptop just to run it
worst waste of money I've made on a game
Still remember buying an escape room a few years ago to compare it to the ones I've built and spent weeks designing only to be met with: Find the button 1, Basic Parkour, and Find the button 2.
It was over $6
worst part is that you can't refund the map or pack you've already purchased. i wish that was an option. like give me back minecoins at least so i can spend it on another one. ofc this can be abused, but it wouldnt hurt to add like a restriction or two
Yep, I think what's missing on the marketplace is a way to refund/dispute and submit reports for maps/packs that will require them to get more review and potentially removed from the marketplace or have more time invested in them by the creators
this is what is needed
this is definitely needed
Like really needed
there's so many packs that are out of date and can't be played
and if those stay and won't be updated, you're just going to have an unhappy playerbase that feel they got scammed
That moment when I asked for a refund and they gave me like 3k minecoins was insane
I only spent like 990 minecoins or something
I need that refund
No idea who in mojang gave me that refund but i'll always be grateful
i want refunds too
That person knows a thing or two about customer satisfaction xD
it might be kayla
mm yeah, lets just put all the work and grace to kayla
no idea, that was like 5 years ago idrk
one day something happened and my bro got free minecoins
as much as we would like to blame all the good stuff on Kayla, don't forget there's also other people that work at Mojang xD
that was years ago
if not kayla, then notch :D
i was jealous bcz mojang didnt gave me free minecoins π
he was never part of the MCBE project
guess we'll never find out who it was then
maybe not π
it was mojangster for sure
How often are new add ons going to be added to the marketplace?
inside pass, monthly
inside marketplace, i dont think there is a fixed schedule
depends on creators
Years later "oops, we gave you too many. Oh? You spent them? Now you have negative mine coins"
thats meant to look like the hammer right, the icon next to the author name β it kinda looks like a dislike icon instead
its just bug, restart app
I love casually seeing the missing texture on marketplace
restarting the game won't fix it either
it's better than getting error-000 anyways xD
fixed it for me
lol, it happened to me some moments ago
ye
lol
I seen
π
look under your mattress
i guess the "treatment packs" arent being applied properly then or something
i am not on bed right now
probably not, but it's not a big concern atm. They have way bigger problems atm
Never happened, never will. That request has been forgotten
treatment packs saying
that one is more of servers issues tbh, marketplace doesn't have a error handlers. so what they did, is basically paste the anims if marketplace are loading for about 20> seconds long and it shows a dummy error, which. that one.
Mine just show as soon as I click the page to go into sometimes
It was doing it with the sparks' pets earlier only
It was worth the frustration of that error happening a lot of times though
brilliant add-on
usually restarting the client resolves the issue, if it doesn't then restart it for another 100 times
due to error and massive internet usage by marketplace page, i never open it
although mine doesn't work that well, just casually missing textures and won't go away unless I clear the game cache, same goes to realms stories.
yt videos be slow now though if you have ad blocker
i removed ad blocker
fair
Very real
I have Opera GX ad-blocker on but it still bypasses it.
basically bcz youtube is changing something these days

expected, since marketplace literally downloads each images for packs and those are high quality images so yeah, something like this tends to happen
it doesn't seem to have a compression for me
mojang should send images based on user screen size
honestly, throw marketplace into ore-ui or something
what would be the difference?
the json-ui version or the current one are pretty ehm... badly implemented
except from how it looks
well having them ore-ui should give mojang more controls
which, they probably can implement some image compressions and aswell faster loading time
json-ui another hand they just "download" another json-ui elements, causing some lags and sometimes that missing texture
also hopefully they bought the "confirm purchase" thing since json-ui does not have one and someone already accidentally bought things
Everyone calling addons mods now but I get bullied when I call deferred shaders
i need money
π
We'll bully you for calling addons mods too
It's "Add-Ons" not addons. Sheesh...
Add-Ons not βAdd-Onsβ
uwu
π
Once, I bought the wrong thing, back when I was into Marketplace things, and they refused a refund, even though I hadn't even used it. The Marketplace has some things done well, but a lot of things that could be done better.
Add-ons not Add-Ons
damn just came online to see the no. of pings
Are all the marketplace add-ons strictly supposed to be adding new things? Or will some of them conflict with each other
I.e. player.jason
are they still working on the old world generation feature?
@rough path said they're all independent and don't clash with each other
player.json is not allowed
You can see the rough validation we use to try to restrict add-ons to purely additive behavior: https://mctools.dev/
Minecraft Creator Tools
yay
It's still very possible for add-ons to collide, and certainly if you stack many, you can run into compute or memory limits for your platform. But - we tried to make things as safe as possible (without being too restrictive)
Ran 6 add ons on switch and worked smoothly
Shoutout to mammerla π
spawned like 9 whales during storm and i was surprised no crash happened
thats how you know the team is efficient
ye
I ran 3 and it worked smooth
I love em
It was on a switch lite which had me speechless
ive had a switch lite before, apparently switch lite has better performance than a regular switch in general
My oled was holding up pretty well
Now that Add-ons are on marketplace can this finally be fixed? π₯²
What if they want to make a custom ore Add-on...
Ahhh, I can't wait for accelerated bug fixes because marketplace content is at risk /j
Hey I got a switch lite too
I'm sure it will have some effects.
i dont see why not, if its gonna benefit the mp creators as well π€
Watch data-driven projectiles* become a priority after this
*without runtime identifiers
Please
Weird thing about some vanilla entities if you copy/paste the file into your add-on it bheaves differently
so Add-Ons are not purely meant for marketplace but also for general-use/third-party free creations also right ?
its a really strange issue ik
I don't understand
as in the marketplace isn't the team only piority when making the API but also the input of creators from things like mcpedl
I thought that was obvious?
π most people still thinks addons are for the marketplace only.Thanks you for being with us and listening to our voices aswell ! kayla π
Itβs honestly really unfortunate that so many people thought Add-Ons didnβt even exist.
mostly coming fron java modding community
Agreed, but I can't blame them given how hard it is to get them.
Itβsβ¦really not hard though.
Itβs only difficult on consoles because of Sony and Microsoft
and Nintendo
Petition to make it harder in the next update please Kayla?
it's not really hard...atleast for the one using mediafile links.
It's hard enough for the average user. Even on PC, I can't deal with the MCPEDL ad flow.
Maybe 2 or 3 more steps to install π
Microsoft on its way to make addons hard to get on its own console for its own game to spite itself
install adblocker
Okay, that is understandable, but hopefully that will be changing soon.
nintendo in particular
Okay yeah no MCPEDL comment is valid. The wait time system is frustrating, especially when I'm wanting to download my own old addons
yeah, it's a conspiracy. we're totally out to own ourself
Overwolf is adding a creator payment system to MCPEDL
I know who overwolf is (I don't)
Which I am personally really hyped for.
owners of Curseforge
Wait ,why is the bedrock team in seattle ,aren't the java team in stockholm or something ?
curseforge owner
The bedrock team couldn't stand being near the java team
Mojang Studios has two main locations - Seattle and Stockholm
It will likely have the same pay rate as java.
Personally not hyped. The money has to come from somewhere, which means either more ads or more paywalls
Both started with "S".
they have prem subscriptions
If I remember correctly, this is partially why Bedrock Edition and Java Edition ended up so different in features.
MCPEDL already has ads lol
Yes but more
Bedrock Edition started as Pocket Edition. It was (is) a C++ codebase that had to target much different spec hardware. So that's where the diverance started.
btw kayla ,is there any plan to use v8/Jscore for the platforms that support it to boost heavy complex addon performance ?
Pocket Edition and Bedrock Edition are completely different games though.
It's not too bad if you're writing efficient js using proper data structures and algorithms @magic fossil
C++ is hell ,that's why you guys and gals are goated π
C++ is pretty standard for cross-platform game dev
A key thing to note is watch how many calls you're making with the api. Those will add up fast
Bedrock is on everything from a Chromebook, Amazon fire tablets, hundreds of android devices and consoles. So many hardware specs π€―
Yooo thomas
yeah ,but the ammount of errors and bugs you can get from them is pretty bad.
eh hem ,bugrock
I always provide direct downloads with no ad links π
Same.
Yooo
Download didn't work there, that's just an embed. Nice try.
Except I use mediafire for download count.
too slow for me ,i will just put a mediafire link so they can skip the wait :P
I have download count because I'm in curseforge thing. So it's mcpedl + curseforge download count.
There would be bugs no matter the engine. Java has bugs. An infinite sandbox game is going to have more bugs in it then an isolated story driven game
Depends on the isolated story driven game (not naming names)
ποΈ Both locations start with S. S also stands for Super Duper Graphics Pack. Confirmed, Mojang is bringing it back!
bedrock is far from being infinite compare to java tho...
Unfortunately there are not infinite QA teams and infinite devices to infinitely test Minecraft
As far as you're concerned in a survival, or really any kind of situation, the world is infinite
I know how to fix every bug in bedrock
yeah yeah
Delete game?
π
Yep
Testing is the easy part, we've found the bugs, it's fixing them that's the issue
wait 10 billion years.
Or fixing them while not introducing 10 more bugs
Looking forward to the QnA this week...hopefully the team doesnt implement everything we requested or had questions about in this week's preview or else there's no more qna
β¦dont even get me started with the bounding box bugs.
i can't imagine how huge bedrock codebase is.
99 bugs on the wall. 99 bugs on the wall. Take one down, patch it around. 181 bugs on the wall β¨
10 lines. just really really long lines
Nice formatting
And Kayla told me off for that once! Smh
She didn't, just other things instead β₯οΈ
You can't talk about formatting thomas.
they will 100% implement everything we asked for π
//wtf is going on...! I'm just gonna add random stuff and see what happens.
Mmm yes my lang file ids are ihasd3248ufi32492348
WHY NOT
perfect that make sense to me and yes? The team? Yes they all know which one I'm referring to
I dread to think how many //this is here for this very specific reason comments there are in the codebase
Don't you dare bring up dash compiler as an excuse I don't want to hear it
I leave comments in my lang files complaining about other peoples naming schemes
Some lang keys are ol.<hash> !
Bedrock's naming scheme...inconsistent cases...ancestors weep
if Minecraft didnβt have performance issues the further you went out there wouldnβt be so many problems
I think they should restrict world size to Xbox 360 size
The physical size of an xbox 360
lol
Your so predictable
thats what makes him cute~
Minecraft Xbox 360 Edition World Size
I will say, its nice to see the Java creators actually try to learn more bout Bedrock after numerous people corrected them regarding add-ons
OMG I AGREE SO MUCH
They did not respond to any of our comments
what's the true end-goal of the Add-Ons API ?
@silver flume this?
finally all the toxic java players can get steamrolled over for not listening
to enable creators to make any Minecraft experience they can imagine.
Anyways...back to working on my proof of concept using the Structures API...
theres a few QoL features I wish were added(I already gave feedback). Its so nice to be able to use an API and not use runCommand
that isn't the case most of the time π
yes π
most of the time they just troll or ban you
so yall want it on par with Java Edition mods or better?
It's already pretty well established that they live in a giant echo chamber.
so Java Modding API for bedrock confirmed ?
There's 332 lines like that with ol. And then 300 lines of cu. (Cleaned up duplicates)
no.
Java is one source of inspiration.
Ywah
Real, kayla and her team just copy paste java code and convert it into C++
Legit
Bedrock doesn't get as much love from the community as java editions in terms of moddings ,we are all up to the mercy of you guys to give us the most capable and efficient API there can possibly be for Bedrock.
β¦not a good idea lol
I bet they stick it onto a Java to c++ converter online and release the update.
Then sleep for the rest of the day
Though....Legends codebase should be inspiration for BE world gen
Can start by making the plains biomes less ugly
I'm excited for the next year
Bro cannot wait for Minecraft spinoff numero 4
because no election drama
why do minecraft on my mobile seems more optimize than on my win10 edition most of the time.
Maybe they should try a new franchise. The minecraft spin offs are kinda old...
because they run differently
I will be dead
they also arenβt programmed the same way
honestly? Could be UWP doing UWP things ? π
Always vote for "None of these Canidiates "
_votes for myself instead _
I mean, Java parity in terms of add-ons isn't specifically the goal. But Java is one source of inspiration.
Whats wrong with structure void?
isn't specifically the goal means it's still technically the goal right ?
Bedrock has the unused air structure void but Java uses it. it's been a while but I'm pretty sure this is still true
The difference?
Lets say I want to make a Minecraft add-on that makes the world 4D (where youβre placed inside a 3D slice of a 4D world)
will this be possible in the future?
Structure void is good working as intended ?
I will get back to you so I don't give you wrong info.
Tomorrow probably
It's already possible.
To the extent of what 4DM can do? Doubt it.
We use structure voids in the worst way on sonic...
pls elaborate
I don't that what 4dm is. I assumed your requests was a joke.
Java:Java
Bedrock:JavaScript
Java :JavaScript Object Notations
Send us unencrypted pack so we can take a look.
my request was an example
also 4DM = 4D Miner, its an indie game thats been in alpha for a good while
I like keeping my job β₯οΈ
Okay I'll just use your uuid on a bunch of packs so your support channe will get flooded
but to do something to that extent for Minecraft would require almost 7x as many calculations for a light source so no edition of Minecraft is optimized enough to do something like that anyways
I think they fixed that! The UUID trick only works on the pack from the store now
That trick probably made people's thousands of dollars in a ad revenue.
β¦Sen.
uh-
Stop sending images with inappropriate text you idiot.
Don't send here
I'm sorry...it's was too funny ;-:
thatβs really a pretty poor excuse to not follow the rules
I'd like a 10% cut please
pssssssst hey anyone know anything about thisss
Very unspecific
I believe a year or so ago there was a feature not yet added which enabled world generation before caves and cliffs update
Anyways this whole conversation isn't really in the scope of this channel.
which anime is your pfp from ?
#off-topic
Oh god
Explain please, unless it's under nda
Or dm me π
π
Fun little tidbit I laugh at every once in a while is when we made the angry birds DLC, we had to use the sonic UUID to make our Angry Birds block geometries render correctly for a little while during development. Then after you guys released an update and I downloaded it, I was greeted with this in our dev world 
Should of been a feature
i just read the messages above, saw the new addon marketplace things this morning
heck i had no idea they were stolen
at this point, even the official marketplace is gonna be another 9minecraft site
I was kinda stunned how few people in my communities were talking about the add-ons unveiling today. And it wasn't even just "Bedrock bad" from the Java fanboys. It was just⦠nothing. Silence. I'm really hoping that's just my one experience and not indicative of the bigger picture.
You're owner of a Java community server ? That's a suprise.
We talked about it over on Minecraft Commands and it turned into a conversation about a Java Marketplace.
Also, a few people thought it was weird that they worded it like addons were something new.
what a weird coincidence that the method to get 3rd party content was ruined right before standalone addons could be sold in the marketplace
now it just says installation stopped at some point
Pretty weird. What are the chances
preview day today
hopefully
hopefully ye
does anyone know how close we are to 1.20.70-stable?
well, then again, we just had 1.20.62 last week
prolly we need like a small preview update like .25 or .26 then two weeks after that we could see .70 stable
probably ye
well, 1.20.70.25 might be today or tomorrow
Prolly today and a small one
so lets hope π€
ye
Lol no
Bedrock was pocket edition
And it still is
Just renamed
And on more platforms
i believe bedrock is just a unified name for all the platforms
Legacy pocket edition.
They have completely different codebases.
ur not getting the point
bedrock is kinda like the thesus ship thing
but
pocket edition stuff is still leftover
legacy pocket was discontinued
uhh no, this is a fact
legacy pocket was replaced by bedrock only about 6 months after it was discontinued
different? looks like a no to me.
specially json-ui in there looks nearly the same expect minor elements/properties rename
I could easily port pocket edition's UI to bedrock with ease
Preview when?
or if we have to wait til friday again
can't wait to see the biggest changelog
but what if it's tuesday today π€ I guess we wait for kayla to tell us
- Fixed some crashes
- Fixed marketplace crashing on some devices
- Removed deferred on iOS
@wet shell
I'm now a wanted criminal
btw how do you do the
circular dot
it's basically <li>
itβs easier if you use - instead
- yeah
- meow
- does it work
- nope
yeah but I honestly prefer * since most of my platform uses * instead of -
My worst nightmare
not really . there could be worse like
deferred for ios is there but you device isn't compatible β οΈ
well I suppose to prevent devices catching fires.
It ainβt gonna catch fire
Aajabrams said they tested it on xr specifically for me
π
should be fine, but that's feels like the lowest requirements as they could go
That just made my morning haha
8 probably wouldn't run that well
The cherry on the cake is the Sonic staring menicingly at you
works on my iPhone 7
justβ¦i wouldnβt recommend it
its not playable
The Techna add-on is broken
you can't even craft the technadium matrix from amethyst and raw iron
and you can't even make the cables/pipes
which is literally needed to make anything work or even make things
idk how to get a refund for it either
anyways though, the rest of these add-ons work well except Techna
brilliant add-ons
Dragonfire lite is fine ig but
haven't actually gonna a dragon to fly yet
was trying to get a saddle also
but got pissed at the techna add-on, so we just stopped playing
Marketplace QA gonna have to step in to make sure the Add-Ons actually work correctly?
Slow script warnings are annoying but ig there's not much you can really do about that
I do not expect a preview today
Why not
Why?
Someone said it runs okay
Whatβs the FPS?
me want preview : (
My switch runs Minecraft better than an iPhone 7
So that gives me hope
That deferred can run on switch
It's kind of disappointing how many people think addons are a new thing
The ones that did know they existed thought we could only change vanilla entities.
"New items, blocks, entities"
i just found an idiot that said minecraft didnβt need scripting support
Imagine it's the same case like Nobody and gravestone
ye, I was getting slow warnings from just the Techna Add-on
I hope not
And I kept relogging but recipes never showed in crafting recipes either
I had all experiments on except custom biomes also btw
Yeah
ye
You shouldn't need experiments it's a marketplace addon
typo
I can try it without experiments on
clown this man
They haven't exactly advertised that anywhere else before
the studio said they're gonna fix the recipes soon
Blockbench:
came across an odd bug with ur addon
ahh, as long as they fix it soon, then it'll be fine
also, I just tried to put an add-on RP on a new world to test stuff, and it froze and crashed the game
It's also kind of funny to see people shit on naturalist for porting to bedrock, pointless hate
Huh. the RP should require the BP as a dependency
That add-on is amazing
ik
I clicked the RP to add to the world
and it froze my game and crashed
naturalist is really nice
I didn't see which add-on it was though
Maybe because it started as a mod
it started with talented people
Yea I know, I was joking
like all our mums
and loading 6 add-ons isn't wanting to create the world for some reason :Β¬/
It was working earlier
It only goes to 9 chunks and it lags
I turn smooth lighting off
And everything down to low
And it still lags
can confirm
So if it can run deferred at 8 FPS
Then switch can run even better
When they optimize it
ive seen some think bedrock had a mod api and then they removed it
60 fps on 9 chunks for me
Yeah
the legacy scripting api
On a normal world
in deferred 30 fps on medium
Wha
ur not using an iPhone 7
Iβm literally using an iPhone
iphone 17
weβre talking about an iPhone 7
not any iPhone
I play on an iPhone 7
β¦pretty sure you said you had an 11
Where?
long time ago, this very discord
that was Kaioga
pretty sure King did too
nope
searched up "iphone 11" and it just shows Kaioga and Ash saying that have one
pretty sure king didn't since his last iphone screenshot was pretty 4:3 to me
that's like below iphone 10
ok, Sparks Pets sometimes crashes my game when I try to put it on a new world
iPhone 7 is 16:9
I've crashed twice from putting on Sparks Pets add-on onto a world
Reading this wrong - more of the vanilla biomes had custom animal spawns added to them. (Naturalist is originally a Java mod, Bedrock port has about tripled the animal count so all vanilla biomes will have an animal they can spawn)
ye, but it would be very hard to distinguish that they mean just more mobs in already existing biomes and not biomes that are added from the add-on
not good wording imo
Preview when?
soon hopefully
Soonβ’οΈ
www.https//:feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/24139781551117-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-20-70-24-click-if-gay
goddamn it
lmao
I think (a)[link]?
the opposite
Ah
ahh there
it worked
shush
i made mine with no embeds
surround the link with <>
<link> to not embed links
I love embeds
fr
LOL
I love this GIF
I love rick roll
<url> to disable embeds btw
Why does Rick rolling have to be hard
ye, but then it does that
I know the last 3 letters of the rickroll url
Uses a different url
test test embed fail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Then you'll fool me
;-;
Just give up
XcQ
Before I get muted for GIF spam
ha
there are 2 rickroll videos where the id starts with dqw
You canβt do anything about that
is that video banned specifically?
sadly, unless the person has trust youtube URL on
hmm
Opera GX?
firefox
ahh
oh, I just hovered over it also on desktop app and it also showed the hidden URL
damn
feels a bit silly though because it also show the actual url at the bottom of the screen
why 2 indicators
prevevebheuwhen
well, at least we are learning valuable lessons of how to detect fake urls and redirects xD
who made that?
king
the developer of candy crush
Whatβs this?
hyperlink
(my reaction when i received the ping...)
Nvm
wait
[text](url)
This chat got flooded with links unrelated to updates
ye lol
I saw that
yes, hello
saw what?
Why not?
is beta coming?
Maybe
what's the difference between beta and preview?
Beta's the old term
oh
But I think still applies on android
congratulations on having candy crush preinstalled with windows 10
one is by the browser which shows up in every website and one is made by discord specifically
damn pc users am i right
You will know it's preview day once preview release
ITS SNAPSHOT DAY MY DUUUUDES
booo, snapshots
boooo ur mom
don't scare my mom
Was there a snapshot?
no
No snapshot means prolly no preview
They don't always line up with eachother π€·ββοΈ
well, we have an hour and a half to see, or until Kayla tells us there's no preview today
ol' reliable
preview came out last friday so idk
pretty sure yh
US East
It was Thursday for me
we're in similar time zones then π€
hmm mustve gotten my days mixed up then
it came out last thursday
new preview?
nothing yet
Monday was a holiday
Ah
tomorrow
so no preview?
Sounds like it
Told ya
Heyy I believed you :3
There was technical issues
i got epic mickey remake today no preview is fine
wait, for serious? did they announce that today?
Nintendo Direct?
yea, in nintendo partner showcase
ha - hilarious. I made a joke about Epic Mickey when Disney did that investment round in Fortnite a couple weeks ago. Thought it was a deep cut.
Mojangster mentioned fortnite
lol, i loved that game when i was younger so im excited its being remade
Kayla in Fortnite
It was a massive investment too.
wasn't it like over 1 billion
1.5
That's big money
That's a lot of v-bucks

Almost enough to buy all the dance moves


yea. Pokemon Day showcase is close too. Waiting for what new stuff is going to be revealed including upcoming remakes
that banana better have a sign saying "preview"
no preview
If the rumours about Gen 5 remakes become true then i hope they won't be like BDSP but rather something like Let's Go Pikachu or smthin
booo, you changed your message π
im actually curious about making a storyline map in minecraft with Pokemon in it
I wanna see you dancing on a table with a banana in your hand
with that banana holding a sign that says preview
oh yea? Make the wishes true then
that the rumoured gen 5 (unova remakes) true and something good like Legends Arceus alr
are we expecting a π today?
idk. also bye see ya captains!
ah sadge

not me thinking of π© when i see π
...

I'm curious. If I make a world using one of the marketplace Add-Ons and send it to someone else will it still lock them out as they don't have ownership?
actually. It should just not appear at all. lemme test
That is true, is it verifying that they own the content?
I guess it would be the same way as normal marketplace maps
It doesn't verify ownership because it doesn't transfer the marketplace packs
So basically if you send you world for a friend to check out all the marketplace Add-Ons will just be gone
Missing
Would be funny if the gravestone add-on uses code from some of the other gravestone add-ons out there
I'm sure it's not too crazy though, just spawning an entity and then adding the players inventory contents into it
CHECK OUT MY COOL WORLD!! EVEN COMES WITH A FREE MARKETPLACE PACK
Okay so if it's in your library it will install on your device
Oh no
If you don't own the pack it will just treat it like the pack is gone and won't prompt you for anything.
Can give some insight to this; We wanted to make these blocks, but during the production timeframe not all the API's we needed to facilitate the same features found in the java mod were out of beta, and work arounds were performatively problematic on some devices.
Fair, block interactions are big thing and they won't be stable until 1.20.70
I understand why you guys did that and it makes perfect sense. I know it can take months for these things to come together and not everything is ready during development especially for something as new the individual Add-Ons. Hopefully you can update it to use blocks in the future!
Does anyone know how I can get my self included as a market place addon creator?
Join a team
Hmm, any teams out there recruiting?
Applications are closed right now
Why I'm asking
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Ty
any preview today?
btw there going to be 1.20.80 preview or 1.20.70.25 or 1.20.70.26 will come , making .70 with 5 previews releases?
When are we getting JIT
How do you know?
asking*
π€¨
Iβm expecting the last preview of the .70 update cycle today
So hopefully 1.20.70.25 today
i just want to know 1.20.70 all preview builds are completed or not

