🍌!!
#General Discussion
hoary forge
celest sluice
Today's Thursday everybody :D
hoary forge
We still get 🍌s on Thursday so yay!! It’s still 🍌 day!
limber ledge
Also I’m not expecting any big previews for this version anymore since we are almost done
ancient estuary
where preview
languid tinsel
Where preview
quasi wedge
don't act like you suddenly say it 😠
rigid tendon
Is it nanas of the bana day my dudes?
tropic chasm
so guys where preview
devout barn
where banana
cursive pond
hotfix preview
hoary forge
🍌
inland geyser
yar she blows
rigid tendon
celest sluice
I keep thinking that it immediately takes me to the latest preview
When it just updates when it comes (it
's not there yet 🙁 )
hoary forge
yay!
heady sable
Too bad 2 bugfixes
inland geyser
damn
heady sable
This means 1.20.30 is coming real soon
inland geyser
she comming soon
hoary forge
👀 1.20.30.20 next week??
old stream
pl0z lift the setLore limit
heady sable
Probably next week if there are no issues, otherwise over 2 weeks
devout barn
Well time to say goodbye to the 1.20.20 cycle 🫡
hoary forge
Post!
heady sable
pl0z lift the setLore limit
Well... they probably set it to make sure it works without too many side-effects
They don't add a restriction for nothing
pulsar sequoia
Took me like a day to read the changelog
willow sequoia
They don't add a restriction for nothing
Navi has said that the initial release of a feature is always very conservative, and they they will look into extending it further in future updates. They just need to make sure the current iteration is stable.
@old stream
heady sable
Yeah, better worded than me
old stream
Navi has said that the initial release of a feature is always very conservative,...
i guess i'll have to wait longer
cursive pond
hotfix preview
. This is basically what happened
heady sable
. This is basically what happened
Similar to 1.20.10.24 and 1.20.10.25 (Android Only)
languid tinsel
Nice preview
tropic chasm
Is there any list of stable item components?
stoic orchid
In stable - you can refer to them in 1.20.10 and 1.20 creator summary posts:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/update1.20.10
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/update1.20
tropic chasm
lovely, thank you!
languid tinsel
In stable - you can refer to them in 1.20.10 and 1.20 creator summary posts:
htt...
The 1.20.10 update post does appear in the what's new sidebar 😯
stoic orchid
I know - I have it fixed on our end - it'll update next push. Remind me to never take a vacation again!
languid tinsel
Kayla, never take a vacation again ♥️
heady sable
After answering all those pings in this Discord you might need another vacation... seems way too much effort for an average Mojang employee /s
stoic orchid
I know.. I've been averaging 6 minutes of work the last few days - far too much
dreamy bison
mojangster asleep falls asleep planning vacation from too much stress
charred ocean
I know.. I've been averaging 6 minutes of work the last few days - far too much
I didn't think it could be hard to be lazy to become a lazy mojangster
lol
tropic chasm
Does anyone knows if getting run_command on stable is being worked on reccently?
or how long is the way to get it into stable
stoic junco
Does anyone knows if getting run_command on stable is being worked on reccently?
It's unlikely, from what I understand it's related to event timing issues aka events can fire in a lot of different and unpredictable places during a tick. Similar to scripting at the time that they don't want changes between a tick
tropic chasm
Understandable, really wish it happens at some point, but it seems like there is still a long run to see it on stable
limber ledge
Why there isn’t the recipe unlocking experiment in the latest beta ?
It is not even enabled by default
rough path
Why there isn’t the recipe unlocking experiment in the latest beta ?
Bc its stable now
hoary forge
Why there isn’t the recipe unlocking experiment in the latest beta ?
check advanced
limber ledge
check advanced
I saw it now thanks
Btw it’s strange that it is not enabled by default
limber ledge
maybe they will change it in the future? who knows
Yeah maybe
hoary forge
No, it is turned off while creating a new world
I said that it’s strange lol
hoary forge
hopefully
limber ledge
August will be good
limber ledge
What you guys want to see in the 1.20.30 circles?
heady sable
More addons being broken of course!
celest sluice
My WorldEdit community is gonna be so mad they have to update again. 😂
elfin flower
json-ui changes that somehow broke my ui
tropic chasm
beta api disappearing more and more
celest sluice
But at the same time new stuff keeps being added to it
tropic chasm
The cool stuff were mainly in the beta api, having it all on stable would mean finally good scrips packs on stable that won’t break with updates
I would love to not need to change my pack and rename stuff on 10 files on every update 😅
or even worse and have to change more than functions
A new generation of beta api must begin once the current one gets totally stable imo
hoary forge
beta api disappearing more and more
it’s probably gonna take some time before we say our final good byes to the toggle
tropic chasm
Yeah, sadly
languid tinsel
I don't think the beta api toggle will ever go away 
There will probably be always some kind of api work done in betas before stable
tropic chasm
Everything that is currently there will probably be stable at some point, but there will indeed always be new content added
stoic orchid
indeed - there will always be more
stoic orchid
You ALWAYS want more
lapis sierra
You know what I want
stoic orchid
A pony?
stoic orchid
oh right - you want more restrictions to block geometry!
hoary forge
Reduce size back to one block
or maybe shrink it back to infinity
lapis sierra
Air Block Tag
Multi Block Collision Boxes
A "on_update" component that actives a event on Block update.
lapis sierra
or maybe shrink it back to infinity
Let's just get rid of geometry all together
hoary forge
Let's just get rid of geometry all together
Yeah
tropic chasm
Don’t you dare
lapis sierra
Especially for kaioga
stoic orchid
can you make my wish real
not anytime soon 🙂
tropic chasm
😭
hoary forge
how many bananas do you want?
tropic chasm
Bribe! Bribe! 😭
stoic orchid
no deal
stoic orchid
640k of bananas should be enough for anyone
pulsar sequoia
any hints about the next major update kayla? please
stoic orchid
the next update will be 1.20.30
hoary forge
640k of bananas should be enough for anyone
yay!
pulsar sequoia
The first letter from the update name (is it too much?)
lapis sierra
Ik what it is
hoary forge
The first letter from the update name (is it too much?)
maybe
pulsar sequoia
💀
pulsar sequoia
I narrowed it down to just 26 possibilities
To narrow it down a little more just say it Starts with Minecraft and ends with A-Z 🐸
hoary forge
Minecraft: || || Update
pulsar sequoia
yeah that's it
Minecraft Blank Update!
Or Minecraft Banana Update?
bcz Kayla needs 640k bananas from us
obsidian lark
Where's my structure API
Sounds like basic filesystem access too. 👀
hoary forge
bcz Kayla needs 640k bananas from us
🍌 x640k
pulsar sequoia
640k 🍌 on this message for Minecraft Banana Update
devout barn
The next update will be an update
charred ocean
make my wish real and i will give 1 million of every fruit including bananas
charred ocean
the next update will be 1.20.30
The next minor after a major update would come as 1.21.21 💀
Did anyone not realise that?
2121 :D
hoary forge
if we get a hotfix
charred ocean
Considering that bugs and issues will definitely come out after a release too.
hoary forge
640k 🍌 on this message for Minecraft Banana Update
pulsar sequoia
Only major update Why not have a minor update too Named Minecraft Minor Chili Update
🌶️
rough path
What you guys want to see in the 1.20.30 circles?
🙏 Announcement for updates to be once every 3 months rather than monthly
dreamy bison
starts with a letter A-Z
in before update starts with a number
Minecraft :
2 cool 4 skool
hasty grotto
the banana monster ate her too
tropic chasm
This is another version that came from vacation, not normal
dreamy bison
kayla clone
celest sluice
oh right - you want more restrictions to block geometry!
speaking of blocks, is collision being stretched beyond the unit block space intentional? If not please don't fix it
If you have to, version format it 🥲
mystic thistle
oh right - you want more restrictions to block geometry!
languid tinsel
Half a block only
rough path
No geometry
languid tinsel
No textures
heady sable
No geometry
No dash
hoary forge
No blocks
slender wren
No
celest sluice
.
hoary forge
limber tiger
I'm wondering how the fuck people managed to get some leaked build of MCBE
hasty grotto
I'm wondering how the fuck people managed to get some leaked build of MCBE
someone was bribed with bananas
devout barn
Yes go back to the addon api in 0.16
I watched the e3 trailer for that again the other day, was… interesting
mystic thistle
I'm wondering how the fuck people managed to get some leaked build of MCBE
Tell me you're asking for leaked builds without asking for leaked builds
limber tiger
Tell me you're asking for leaked builds without asking for leaked builds
I ain't asking
What are you talking about dude
zealous salmon
What are you talking about dude
Tell me you're guilty without telling me you're guilty
limber tiger
Tell me you're guilty without telling me you're guilty
What's the fuck is wrong with you
tropic chasm
I can ask the same thing about you, can you chill out and review our rules please?
Be respectful to others, no need to be aggressive. Thank you!
limber tiger
Be respectful to others, no need to be aggressive. Thank you!
People are playing with me for no reason
Apparently I'm not allowed to ask a simple question and get a simple answer
tropic chasm
No one is playing with you, but the topic you asked for is not something you want to talk about in this server.
limber tiger
No one is playing with you, but the topic you asked for is not something you wan...
What?
That doesn't make any sense
I'm not asking to get the leaked build
I'm asking how this can happen
what's wrong with that?
tropic chasm
Did I said you do?
hoary forge
what's wrong with that?
Talking about developer versions is not allowed in this server. It's against the rules
limber tiger
Talking about developer versions is not allowed in this server. It's against the...
Really?
damn
it's super weird
hasty grotto
I'm asking how this can happen
like how all leaks happen
leaks are not exclusive to minecraft
tropic chasm
Once again, please review our rules. I am telling you to simply not talk about it, I think you can just accept it.
limber tiger
Once again, please review our rules. I am telling you to simply not talk about i...
Of course I can 🤦
limber tiger
leaks are not exclusive to minecraft
Oh? Seriously?
tropic chasm
Of course I can 🤦
I had my doubts, but thank you for telling
limber tiger
Anyway, I ain't allowed to say a word on this
heady sable
charred ocean
600+ followers reached :D
tropic chasm
Has anyone noticed any type of issues with block traits?
rough path
Has anyone noticed any type of issues with block traits?
What do you have in mind?
tropic chasm
What do you have in mind?
Something not working as intended, crashes or performance issues etc
Missing content
I want to hear thoughts on block traits and know how much time it’ll be on experimental approximately
pulsar sequoia
I want to hear thoughts on block traits and know how much time it’ll be on exper...
on a message kayla said that they're trying to make it out of experiment's in 1.20.20 (i guess if I'm correct) but it's not out yet 😕
lapis sierra
Didn't placement direction come out of experimental a few previews ago?
charred ocean
I'm waiting for bundles to come to bedrock so that i can port this old forgotten 2y/o texture pack i had made long ago during the days of 1.17 release 🥲
celest sluice
I'm waiting for bundles to come to bedrock so that i can port this old forgotten...
Ok that's actually pretty cool, but do you think we'll be able to access that via API?
charred ocean
Ok that's actually pretty cool, but do you think we'll be able to access that vi...
what do you mean by api? It's just a texture pack.
celest sluice
what do you mean by api? It's just a texture pack.
Oh I thought those buttons were interactable
charred ocean
well i could make them interactable
via datapacks :D
Since it's on java for now.
celest sluice
Wait a minute 🤔
Can you access what
is being held on your cursor using the equipment component?
charred ocean
is being held on your cursor using the equipment component?
in bedrock?
celest sluice
Ye
charred ocean
i still haven't learned modding on bedrock lol
although i know like 2-3 bits or something. But the texture pack is on java. Could try do some wacky stuff using commands to get something on.
limber ledge
This will be a good week guys
1.20.30 circle + a new java snapshot after more than one month of silence
obsidian lark
Not sure about the Bedrock team, but the Java team has been fixing more old bugs recently. A snapshot is probably going to happen.
rough path
Some day
limber ledge
I can’t wait to see your guys reaction for this week’s preview!
celest sluice
I can’t wait to see your guys reaction for this week’s preview!
You know what's next? 👀
rough path
You know what's next? 👀
More bugs!
limber ledge
and more toggles! (one day!)
limber ledge
Bedrock can't be alive without toggles
celest sluice
well I guess something has to replace the crawling and recipe toggles
it feels empty now...
limber ledge
No, they are stable now.
celest sluice
exactly
lapis sierra
Air Block Tag Toggle
celest sluice
Air Block Tag Toggle
keep dreaming
lapis sierra
: (
hoary forge
Poor Gravel
celest sluice
what we really want is vanilla block editing (although that will most likely go under upcoming creator features or something)
rough path
what we really want is vanilla block editing (although that will most likely go ...
Dirt Block Toggle
celest sluice
Dirt Block Toggle
smoker block toggle
heady sable
Incredible!
chrome plover
celest sluice
minecraft development repository leak!
<https://aka.ms/confidential>
I knew it was fake but clicked anyway.. 😭
hoary forge
tbh same
languid tinsel
minecraft development repository leak!
<https://aka.ms/confidential>
@stoic orchid Who did this 🤣
stoic orchid
<@485887451085275159> Who did this 🤣
that's confidential
stoic orchid
sekret
tropic chasm
hey kayla transformation component for blocks has a limit right?
are things like this supposed to happen? #1135611683713318953 message
if not, I’ll investigate later by myself and make a bug report
stoic orchid
transformation should still respect the same limits as geometry
tropic chasm
Yeah that’s what I thought. I’ll investigate if it actually doesn’t and open a bug report
stoic orchid
thank you!
tropic chasm
yup!
lapis sierra
transformation should still respect the same limits as geometry
Ya know that chair I sent you? That was a single block using a scale of 20. It definitely isn't respecting the limit in stable at least.
stoic orchid
this bug is on stable, and preview?
tropic chasm
this bug is on stable, and preview?
Is on preview, yes
stoic orchid
Did you get a bug reported? If so, send me the link.
tropic chasm
On my way, one second
tropic chasm
heady sable
Attach steps to reproduce, that way kayla can reproduce it faster. Even faster with an example pack :D
stoic orchid
https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-173799
Thank you.
heady sable
And you can use markdown to make the code more readable (but that is just preference)
tropic chasm
I’m on my way of creating a pack to reproduce the issue
stoic orchid
cool - I have the devs looking at this issue - so please add to this morjia bug. Thank you again!
tropic chasm
yup!
tropic chasm
And you can use markdown to make the code more readable (but that is just prefer...
How?
celest sluice
Can't believe we're getting them to fix the lack of a size limit.
I know we should
celest sluice
But man. I hope this doesn't include the collision_size
Currently using it to make block collisions intersect
tropic chasm
But the collision itself doesn’t changes
Interestingly, the block does not lower my performance and they seem to render like blend rather than opaque? 🤔
tropic chasm
done
celest sluice
But the collision itself doesn’t changes
It most certainly did when I tried it
You just can't see it
tropic chasm
How much big?
celest sluice
It was able to stretch to 3 blocks
tropic chasm
But it doesn’t has that big collision like the block in the image
rough path
Display entities soon?
lapis sierra
@tropic chasm Attach this to bug report
tropic chasm
What lol
lapis sierra
It's a example of scale being uncapped
rough path
<@715711421408608317> Attach this to bug report
Chair
hoary forge
<@715711421408608317> Attach this to bug report
G I G A N T I C
Chair
lapis sierra
i sent it to Kayla the other day because I thought she knew about the bug lol
tropic chasm
hilarious
charred ocean
good news. Coming back home very early today :DD
charred ocean
# G I G A N T I C
Chair
Who's gonna sit on it? A 100 people? Lmao
pulsar sequoia
what about the selection box ?
Selection box can be increased from 1 upto 2-5 blocks using transformation.
is it a bug or intentional
hoary forge
Who's gonna sit on it? A 100 people? Lmao
probably a lot more than 100
cursive pond
This is the parity I wanted please no fix 😦
limber ledge
Can't wait to see your guys reaction for this week's preview within 48 hours!
heady sable
Are they going to add an air block tag ??? 😮
quasi wedge
How much do I need to pay for waterlogging?
cursive pond
Water logging already exists they just don't let you do it
The way blocks work on bedrock water literally exists on a second layer. There's no waterlogged state.
It's just layer0 is the block and blocks can also occupy layer1, so a water logged block is just two blocks in the same space
cerulean quarry
ya
cursive pond
So in geyser we have no issues with this xD
quasi wedge
Water logging already exists they just don't let you do it
yeah but we have no way to allow them to occupy that space. I think I've seen some people say we can modify it using nbt in structures
but I'm failing to get that to work and it's honestly just not worth it, I wanted my water breathing plant to be generated underwater but its far too tedious to bother with at this point
cursive pond
I mean at the protocol level they're allowed to
But yeah if you're trying to keep it to the Mojang provided tools then it's not really practical
quasi wedge
oh 1 sec
it's just a boolean
but it doesn't say read only..
oh no way
NORWAY!!!!
cursive pond
Yyoming
dreamy bison
Yunited States
rich vault
Fair.
quasi wedge
Isn't there the waterlogged property in blocks in the scripting API
hrm
quasi wedge
What other block type is there
cursive pond
It can be waterlogged it just doesn't want to
quasi wedge
the block is the block
chrome plover
whoops I glasslogged my fence
cursive pond
The type that they've arbitrarily decided can be waterlogged, which a custom block cannot be apparently :p
celest sluice
Time to make a minecraft:waterloggable component
rich vault
whoops I glasslogged my fence
Looks more like a fencelogged glass to me
cursive pond
I want to see the otherblock component
cursive pond
It's fine just write the packets yourself then it will let you 🙂
rich vault
Air tag 
quasi wedge
now I have to make the water breathing plant on land? that's ridiculous
this game is unplayable
where stable
celest sluice
structure time
quasi wedge
It's not worth it
cursive pond
Is this odd system how item frames get to be blocks?
quasi wedge
I would need to make a structure of every growth state then place the structure instead when someone places the seed down
celest sluice
Yup :D
quasi wedge
item frames shouldn't be blocks
it prevents us from doing frames like these
like java can do
cursive pond
We can just replace them all with entities
quasi wedge
I've done enough of replacing vanilla items/blocks with custom ones
cursive pond
I want to do that for geyser but ⏲️
quasi wedge
I don't want to do it anymore
hoary forge
Can't wait to see your guys reaction for this week's preview within 48 hours!
hmm, sus
quasi wedge
so it's absolutely useless
hoary forge
it’s not useless
cursive pond
No it's useful provided you use it only as intended
hoary forge
item frames shouldn't be blocks
i agree!
wet plover
1.20.20 releases today?
cursive pond
I hope not :/
tropic chasm
Can you guys grass-log dirt?
cursive pond
Sure but i think it would just z fight
hoary forge
1.20.20 releases today?
No?
quasi wedge
oh didn't realize it hasn't evne been a month since .10
hoary forge
Yeah
ocean basin
hi, does anyone know if there's any shader-functionality planned for bedrock? I know there were RTX features at one point but not sure if that's stilla thing.
celest sluice
hi, does anyone know if there's any shader-functionality planned for bedrock? I ...
RTX is still a thing
stoic orchid
<@715711421408608317> Attach this to bug report
Do you know - was there ever a hard restriction on transformation preventing geo from exceeding the limits? Trying to figure out if this is a regression, or just a test we somehow never had in place.
mystic thistle
<@715711421408608317> Attach this to bug report
All hail the chair! Our new leader!
@stoic orchid your time is up, chair is our new hero
rough path
Time to make a `minecraft:waterloggable` component
Block trait
stoic orchid
1.21 - Giant Chair Edition
lapis sierra
Do you know - was there ever a hard restriction on transformation preventing geo...
Sorry I haven't tried this until recently.
mystic thistle
1.21 - Giant Chair Edition
To twitter!
heady sable
😔 Kayla got replaced with an inanimate object
lapis sierra
Let's see how big I can make the chair
stoic orchid
Sorry I haven't tried this until recently.
But you do get a content warning when the limits are exceeded by transformation, correct?
tropic chasm
Not much before it turns black
lapis sierra
But you do get a content warning when the limits are exceeded by transformation,...
uhh, lemme check
tropic chasm
But you do get a content warning when the limits are exceeded by transformation,...
No, you don’t
lapis sierra
yah you do
tropic chasm
oh? I didn’t yesterday
lapis sierra
tropic chasm
ah right, try with unit cube
lapis sierra
Okay so content log error only with custom geometry
celest sluice
Fortunately, that error never showed up for collision boxes :D
tropic chasm
Okay so content log error only with custom geometry
Yup
With unit cube there is no content log error
stoic orchid
unit cube isn't a stable component though, right?
celest sluice
Oh no it isn't
tropic chasm
No, not iirc
lapis sierra
umm
stoic orchid
ok then that's fine. it's deprecated
tropic chasm
deprecated?
celest sluice
no longer exist
lapis sierra
Not in public yet I'm assuming
celest sluice
stable nor experimental
tropic chasm
Replaced by what
celest sluice
Does it need a replacement
lapis sierra
Replaced by what
I expect it to just automatically take effect
stoic orchid
ok so - what is the ideal situation here - if you have a block and the transformation goes beyond the allowable size, what would you expect to have happen?
celest sluice
Update block
lapis sierra
ya
heady sable
10 billion content errors
tropic chasm
Update block indeed
tropic chasm
I expect it to just automatically take effect
I hope that’s the case
stoic orchid
got it - so the geo is replaced by the update block placeholder
lapis sierra
yep
rough path
ok so - what is the ideal situation here - if you have a block and the transform...
Display entitoes moment
lapis sierra
Consistent with how everything else works
tropic chasm
If my test pack I added a block with just transformation component
Turns out it is an update block
cloud moon
but I'm failing to get that to work and it's honestly just not worth it, I wante...
They patched the ability to do it
But they can still exist
celest sluice
also, when did update blocks become slippery?
lapis sierra
slippery?
celest sluice
yeah slippery
celest sluice
apparently not. It acts like ice when you stand on it
tropic chasm
apparently not. It acts like ice when you stand on it
not for me
celest sluice
Maybe it depends on what the block was 🤔
cloud moon
Update blocks keep their properties
🤔
tropic chasm
I remember having a slab update block so probably
It looked like a 16x16 but everything else was slab like
not sure how tho
tropic chasm
Turns out it is an update block
Even though it exceeds the limits or not
lapis sierra
tropic chasm
gigantic
celest sluice
Does collision work at that scale?
tropic chasm
Barrier I am assuming
lapis sierra
ya
rough path
Looks like roblox
tropic chasm
It’s Roblox
lapis sierra
yep
celest sluice
Barrier I am assuming
I mean, I don't see him standing on it
hoary forge
1.21 - Giant Chair Edition
:O
celest sluice
I can see clipping
cloud moon
lapis sierra
I mean, I don't see him standing on it
Cause the scale is not completely center on the y (cause model)
I am standing on border
tropic chasm
oh holy cow I want to test my item display case block
lapis sierra
Also to the stalkers out reading this convo pls don't try to use this in Add-ons!
dreamy bison
word
tropic chasm
behold
pulsar sequoia
what about the selection box ?
Selection box can be increased from 1 upto 2-5 bl...
Can anyone ask Kayla about this
tropic chasm
This is very fun
lapis sierra
Hey Kayla.
celest sluice
Hey Kayla.
wait a minute. I know there's (supposed to be) a limit to size, but what about translation?
how far can a block be from its unit space
stoic orchid
translation should also follow geometry restrictions
lapis sierra
I just did 16 blocks
lapis sierra
translation should also follow geometry restrictions
tropic chasm
How do you get your texture to show
lapis sierra
So translation and scale don't follow restrictions.
tropic chasm
oh interesting, both of they don’t
tropic chasm
How do you get your texture to show
gravel
lapis sierra
How do you get your texture to show
when?
stoic orchid
yeah - so clearly bugged. transformation shouldn't allow you to bypass the restrictions of custom blocks as described here: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/customblockoversized
celest sluice
So that means this is illegal?
Still didn't get an answer about collision and selection boxes
pulsar sequoia
@stoic orchid Can you please tell us is this intentional or not
stoic orchid
looking into it
rough path
yeah - so clearly bugged. transformation shouldn't allow you to bypass the restr...
New docs...or im blind
tropic chasm
can you please say it is intentional even though it is not so I can sleep well?
rough path
Java moment
lapis sierra
Since you already added.. NO TAKE BACKS
tropic chasm
lol
celest sluice
New docs...or im blind
you're blind 😎
stoic orchid
New docs...or im blind
We launched these docs when geometry came out of experimental in November(?)
lapis sierra
tell me how to get it to show the texture gravel
I think it's because I'm using a modified version of RTX
lapis sierra
We launched these docs when geometry came out of experimental in November(?)
yah it not new. Smokey just blind.
tropic chasm
I think it's because I'm using a modified version of RTX
oh, I’ll try with an RTX pack then
lapis sierra
modified
tropic chasm
yep that’s it
rough path
We launched these docs when geometry came out of experimental in November(?)
Pfft haha im blind
tropic chasm
beholddd
pulsar sequoia
So that means this is illegal?
it is until mojang allows us to have more than 16x16x16
lapis sierra
How does scale extend collision?
elfin flower
1.21 - Giant Chair Edition
yes.
pulsar sequoia
How does scale extend collision?
I asked peps but no answer
but it is something to do with transformation thing
tropic chasm
I do not get my collision scaled with transformation 🤔
lapis sierra
me either
celest sluice
I did
lapis sierra
how
pulsar sequoia
i assuming that it is something to do with translate
tropic chasm
how big?
celest sluice
3 blocks wide
tropic chasm
dang wish we could have rotation values of 3.5 and stuff like that 😔
celest sluice
🫢
stoic orchid
Don't get used to this 🙂
celest sluice
:(
tropic chasm
I won’t
rough path
Display entities when
pulsar sequoia
Don't get used to this 🙂
Make it intentional!!!
please
i will give you 1M bananas 🍌
lapis sierra
3 blocks wide
What format version you on?
pulsar sequoia
version which has transformation component
celest sluice
What format version you on?
1.19.80
Also, the custom geo was made small so it didn't go beyond the geo limit
after scaling
lapis sierra
I'm on 1.20.10 and it's not doing that
tropic chasm
even with 3 I still have same collision & selection
pulsar sequoia
Slsilicone also said rotation @tropic chasm
lapis sierra
unspecific
pulsar sequoia
autocorrect wrote silicone
lapis sierra
Don't get used to this 🙂
This is what happens when you go on vacation. : (
stoic orchid
clearly lol
pulsar sequoia
and i added Sl:)
celest sluice
>:(
stoic orchid
but thank you all for letting me know, even if a fix isn't REALLY what you want
lapis sierra
Fix please
celest sluice
We played ourselves
tropic chasm
It’s not about what we want it’s about what is correct!
lapis sierra
I want everyone to suffer and have smaller blocks
tropic chasm
so make it a mechanic.
pulsar sequoia
so make it a mechanic.
yeah
lapis sierra
yah
I think it's kind of dumb how translation and scale are measured in blocks
why not 1-16 pixels?
tropic chasm
dumb ways to die
lapis sierra
dumb ways to die
Meant measured in blocks
tropic chasm
Time to also add translation to bug report 🥰
tropic chasm
Meant measured in blocks
Now it makes more sense
stoic orchid
should be measured in light years
tropic chasm
yeah - so clearly bugged. transformation shouldn't allow you to bypass the restr...
I’ll add this too
lapis sierra
should be measured in light years
Just right now you gotta do like 0.05 for a single pixel
For translation
languid tinsel
I want a giant chair
lapis sierra
I want a giant chair
Make your own
stoic orchid
I think block measurement makes more logical sense than "pixels" since "pixels" assumes all blocks use the same texture fidelity.
tropic chasm
buy one get two
lapis sierra
I think block measurement makes more logical sense than "pixels" since "pixels" ...
Selection and Entity Collision go by the same logic
Did not mean pixels in the texture sense
stoic orchid
Selection and Entity Collision go by the same logic
they use pixel size instead of block size?
pulsar sequoia
try typing /order @ihategravel igh:Giant_Chair 1 in commands
tropic chasm
they use pixel size instead of block size?
yes
lapis sierra
they use pixel size instead of block size?
Yah.
chrome plover
/ikea @s ikea:LIDÅS
lapis sierra
try typing `/order @ihategravel igh:Giant_Chair 1` in commands
Invalid Command
tropic chasm
hilarious
lapis sierra
pulsar sequoia
Invalid Command
script.createCustomCommand(/order)
lapis sierra
script.createCustomCommand(/order)
Deletes system32
tropic chasm
just get a chair
lapis sierra
So every component goes by pixels except transformation.
pulsar sequoia
Deletes system32
console.warn(Error())
where is the error?
tropic chasm
Yes. Transformation goes by blocks, selection and collision by pixel.
lapis sierra
```js
console.warn(Error())
```
where is the error?
Idk.
celest sluice
what's that?
cerulean quarry
```js
console.warn(Error())
```
where is the error?
basicly you creates empty error with no message, but that error still exists, but its save bc its not throwed error
cursive pond
ok so - what is the ideal situation here - if you have a block and the transform...
Nothing is changed because arbitrarily restricting block size for performance reasons still doesn't make sense :p There are 1000 other ways to crash the game by overdoing X thing that arbitrary limits aren't placed on...
limber tiger
1.20.30 preview tomorrow 🎉
hoary forge
hopefully
quasi wedge
Hopefully I can cross off some of my wants on my checklist tomorrow
cerulean quarry
1.20.30 preview tomorrow 🎉
I dont thing so, i pretty sure 1.20.20.24 is that last one
limber tiger
I dont thing so, i pretty sure 1.20.20.24 is that last one
There was two bug fixes so I don't think so
cerulean quarry
Who knows
heady sable
People are hyped for tomorrow so I think something big is coming, so a I don't think a small preview like 1.20.20.24 will be coming. Though that is a wild guess
stoic orchid
Why the hype?
quasi wedge
I am always hyped for preview
celest sluice
Why the hype?
I don't understand either 🤷♂️
It's great that we're getting 1.20.30 soon, but I have no idea what's gonna be in it that makes everyone so excited
stoic orchid
Why does everyone think we're getting 1.20.30 soon?
hoary forge
I don’t even know
stoic orchid
so presumptuous!
heady sable
I had to look up that word, and even in my native language I don't know what it means 🙈
stoic orchid
my perspicacity knows no bounds
lapis sierra
Kayla using another big word
tropic chasm
The hype is ineffable
hoary forge
Kayla using another *big* word
anticonstitutionnellement
that was the only long word that i know
also it’s in french lol
lapis sierra
pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
stoic orchid
don't breathe this
tropic chasm
abuzz is the longest word
Starts with a & ends with z
hey kayla, is it a long way to see stable block events?
stoic orchid
I would say - get familiar with script API as a way to drive block logic. That has a more clear path to release.
hoary forge
I can’t wait to see how would ScriptAPI look in a few months from now
stoic orchid
Most of the focus is still to ship the existing APIs into stable - but definitely there is a lot of effort going into API at the moment.
stoic orchid
What block event are you looking to recreat in APIs?
hoary forge
I think he might be talking about not being able to waterlog custom blocks using ScriptAPI
lapis sierra
Most of the focus is still to ship the existing APIs into stable - but definitel...
Nah. I'll take more block stuff instead.
stoic orchid
I think he might be talking about not being able to waterlog custom blocks using...
I don't think the waterlog part of the block API is stable yet
quasi wedge
Thats the only block related thing I'm trying to do still at this point. I dropped my custom jukebox implementation because there was still too much missing.
I don't think my fishing stuff I tried to do really involved blocks, just interacting with any water block
stoic junco
By the way, are we recommended to start using stable APIs for backwards compatibility or continue to use beta APIs for testing new features?
stoic orchid
depends on what you're building and how much risk you can handle! we always love feedback on the beta stuff, but if you need guarantees that things won't change much, then you should stay with stable.
rough path
Why does everyone think we're getting 1.20.30 soon?
Bc its august so new month means new preview cycle always /s
languid tinsel
I want a preview and I want cool things in it
celest sluice
that doesn't sound like how display blocks should even be implemented
Best be an entity
And we can just make a custom entity for that no?
obsidian lark
That's not entirely true. Like /enchant is filled with bugs that we're abusing for string concatenation and the devs plan on fixing it.
rough path
Its Sunday
obsidian lark
The preview already came out just last week.
hoary forge
It’s 🍌 day my dudes!
cerulean quarry
Most of the focus is still to ship the existing APIs into stable - but definitel...
Yey! VVe have Camera APIs 🤩, thank you and thanks to your team
and other teams
and....
heady sable
I scrolled back some older chats and we were like "when cameras data driven", not expecting a month later to have it released using commands and through API
rough path
I scrolled back some older chats and we were like "when cameras data driven", no...
RichHeart when he discovered camera files
hoary forge
I scrolled back some older chats and we were like "when cameras data driven", no...
i recently was messing with the camera files before it became data driven
hasty grotto
i remember people making stupid minecraft "mods" where the third person back file was modified to kinda work like freelook
cloud moon
i remember people making stupid minecraft "mods" where the third person back fil...
Barely worked too
God I remember the video patarhd made on that 💀
hoary forge
God I remember the video patarhd made on that 💀
i remember that video
celest sluice
Oh
valid thistle
beta¿
hoary forge
quasi wedge
I'm hoping a preview changelog that is equally as long as last weeks!
hoary forge
same!
rough path
I'm hoping a preview changelog that is equally as long as last weeks!
Thats too much to read
Im lazy
limber tiger
Why does everyone think we're getting 1.20.30 soon?
Because of how much bug fixes there were last week
hoary forge
hopefully
rigid tendon
sorry for barging in suddenly in middle of a conversation too. rough week
heady sable
Snapshot day on Java 👀
stoic orchid
Preview doesn't look likely for today.
hoary forge
Preview doesn't look likely for today.
:<
stoic orchid
You can go back to sleep
heady sable
heady sable
😔 Frog got caught in the grass
limber tiger
Preview doesn't look likely for today.
Noooooooo
hoary forge
You can go back to sleep
it’s too late, i’ve already been awake for over 27 hours
hoary forge
my sleeping schedule is completely ruined
hoary forge
Mojang recommends 23hrs of sleep a day
:O
rough path
Mojang recommends 23hrs of sleep a day
🤨 I recommend 24 hours, clearly im a better doctor
heady sable
The excel table 🤣
stoic orchid
Why is that funny?
heady sable
Minecraft have advanced systems, but prefer a simple Excel table xD
rough path
Or maybe its google sheets
stoic orchid
Nothing is better than Excel for this sort of thing.
prisma niche
The excel table 🤣
*these villages don't generate natrually
Man
How we gonna get mend8ng?
celest sluice
How we gonna get mend8ng?
Work for it
prisma niche
Swamp, make village in swamp
What does that do?
celest sluice
villagers will be less OP now
chrome plover
this is cursed
quasi wedge
I prefer to just abuse the game mechanics and repeatedly break lecterns for 15 minutes
heady sable
My main concern is now we can't get unbreaking II, so a lot of tools take too much to upgrade
Making boots will be nearly impossible
celest sluice
What does that do?
make swamp village. Which you can get swamp librarian from
celest sluice
They should consider trades with weapons and armor villagers too
celest sluice
How does building a village spawn a villager
That's not what I mean
heady sable
You place a villager egg in Swamp -> Swamp villager
You breed two villagers in a Swamp -> Swamp villager
quasi wedge
oh, I didn't see the java snapshot
chrome plover
poor homeless swamp villagers
prisma niche
You place a villager egg in Swamp -> Swamp villager
You breed two villagers in a...
- survival
quasi wedge
So this IS their response to people constantly resetting villager trades with lecterns
heady sable
* survival
Breeding works in survival
quasi wedge
I'm curious what the trade tables will look like on bedrocks side 🙂
I wonder if the villagers will just get a permutation to set different trade tables
heady sable
I'm curious what the trade tables will look like on bedrocks side 🙂
Horrible 🥴
quasi wedge
I kinda like these changes
rough path
I'm curious what the trade tables will look like on bedrocks side 🙂
loot tables now use excel sheet rather than json file
heady sable
Yes! I would love that!
celest sluice
I'm curious what the trade tables will look like on bedrocks side 🙂
trade parity? 👀
quasi wedge
Make the game take more work in some areas, but also let's you definitevely target what enchantment you want
Now people will be looking for areas where several biomes converge as village areas
celest sluice
More exploration.
heady sable
trade parity? 👀
Jay said they will take feedback in a later Preview, so it is confirmed to come on Bedrock as well
Twitter
quasi wedge
I do think the Savannah Biome is a clown biome
Why is curse of binding even in there
quasi wedge
why is vanishing in there too
and I wonder what we'll get there instead of sweeping edge
or will we just have a village that only has 3 books
rough path
https://twitter.com/mega_spud/status/1686755238370242560?s=46&t=LgAKDuPwA2XUPI-e...
https://twitter.com/Minecraft/status/1686757680801845248?t=fPyECvuR9G0XcFHnHa8Htw&s=19
🥱 i got the official announcement
heady sable
Shut up nerd 🤓
celest sluice
Shut up nerd 🤓
:
🤓
quasi wedge
they should have just given us the excel table lol
celest sluice
Not what I expected, but definitely some welcome change to general Minecraft
rough path
Shut up nerd 🤓
D: mods pls ban
celest sluice
D: mods pls ban
Says the mod-
quasi wedge
This definitely won't be in the next preview for us if it's 1.20.24
dreamy bison
The excel table 🤣
if i has to guess sweeping edge will be replaced with something else on bedrock, either a unique enchant (vanishing is the only one missing i believe) or more likely, a duplicate
quasi wedge
you think we would get a unique enchantment?\
tropic chasm
I prefer to just abuse the game mechanics and repeatedly break lecterns for 15 m...
Then are those players who use /tp in a survival and /locate
rough path
I prefer to just abuse the game mechanics and repeatedly break lecterns for 15 m...
Me who just uses piston
quasi wedge
It will definitely be rough getting mending books now
dreamy bison
you think we would get a unique enchantment?\
i meant like, one that isn't in the other villagers trades
quasi wedge
unless you're a fisher freak
quasi wedge
i meant like, one that isn't in the other villagers trades
there isn't, that's why they threw the curses in there
dreamy bison
i meant like, one that isn't in the other villagers trades
not something exclusive to bedrock, of course 🥲
dreamy bison
oh whoops didn't realise vanishing was in the swamp
mb
yeah and ofc soul speed and swift sneak are off the table
so probably just gonna be one that is in another villagers trades too
tropic chasm
Humor:
I was personally quite convinced that the game was already perfect, but it seems that our developers disagree.
dreamy bison
damn
rough path
🥱 Just add sweeping edge
dreamy bison
ong
tropic chasm
Humor:
> I was personally quite convinced that the game was already perfect, bu...
they really had to add the word personally
obsidian lark
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-23w31a
Function macros. 👀
They're basically like macros in C/C++.
rough path
Function macros. 👀
They're basically like macros in C/C++.
Wait what? I completely missed thjs
obsidian lark
/return run <command> is nice too.
/execute if function will be nice for guard syntax too.
limber ledge
Can't wait to see your guys reaction for this week's preview within 48 hours!
That’s why yesterday I said 48 hours and not 24 hours. Back tomorrow to react this week’s preview!
ancient estuary
where preview
limber ledge
where preview
Tomorrow.
limber tiger
So yeah, .30 preview is pretty much confirmed for tomorrow
Does anyone can help me with the convertor please?
This
ancient estuary
any time now...
livid jasper
🍌🧐
quasi wedge
please read
ancient estuary
please read
oh i see
obsidian lark
Function macros when.
grand void
🍌 when?
rough path
Soon™️
heady sable
24 hours
inland geyser
I frogor the guys can breed
Sus
dreamy bison
honestly W villager changes tbh
dreamy bison
honestly W villager changes tbh
cos instead of just sitting for ages hoping you get lucky with a lecture you actually do stuff to get the trades you want
and since it's an exp, will probably change more trades in future, like those diamond tool trades, which may be balanced by the more common diamonds they added
grand void
Guess no 🍌
inland geyser
Yup no beto
celest sluice
That’s why yesterday I said 48 hours and not 24 hours. Back tomorrow to react th...
How do you know all this??
inland geyser
How do you know all this??
Question of the universe
Also thruday beta mean big beta
grand void
Plot twist: 1.20.20.24
stoic orchid
plot twist 1.19.84
rough path
limber ledge
How do you know all this??
My dreams are always telling me the true
hoary forge
plot twist 1.19.84
😭
heady sable
We will still remember till this day that Mojang stole 1.19.84 from us
limber ledge
@hoary forge I'm excited to see your reaction tomorrow!
hoary forge
<@588670754233516032> I'm excited to see your reaction tomorrow!
hmm, sus
limber ledge
If you guys love the new OreUI, then it will love you too guys.
-- Plug, a random player.
heady sable
OreUI changes... I am all for it
limber ledge
OreUI changes... I am all for it
We all are excited for it! Right?
But the real question is: when? Hmm...
SPOILER: ||Sometime this year, probably.||
heady sable
😩 Stop hyping me up, I want to know it as well
limber ledge
I don't know anything, I just know my dreams. 
limber ledge
😩 Stop hyping me up, I want to know it as well
If you want a spoiler from my dreams, I can tell you.
heady sable
Just keep it shut... I will see it for myself when they drop it
Wouldn't be nice to spoil the pre-fun before it drops
limber ledge
In the main time a random guy: "he is just saying his dreams, so who cares?"
plush wedge
When will bedrock get macros (the new extremely useful command feature in today's java snapshot)?
🇦 1.20.30
🇧 1.21
🇨 never lol
vast bolt
Are they like function parameters but more powerful?
Seems like a bit of a hacky system though
ionic ocean
Who cares (insofar as add-on makers are concerned) what with scripting becoming a (stable) thing?
celest sluice
We got /scriptevent
cerulean quarry
Who cares (insofar as add-on makers are concerned) what with scripting becoming ...
ya, true actually, scripting is very powerful
cursive pond
I am curious if it will ever be truly stable though. Like until you see them let marketplace content use it I don't see how...
stoic orchid
Marketplace content is already using scripting
It's been available to any marketplace content since January.
cerulean quarry
I am curious if it will ever be truly stable though. Like until you see them let...
you need to get more into it, and now since 1.20.20 we have like 90% of after events that means you can do miracles with that
cursive pond
Well personally I don't really have a reason to get into it. For geyser we have complete control over the server and scripting only changes server side things... so to me the only real utility is if I need to see how a packet looks and I can't trigger it in vanilla
Which is obviously quite different from what most people want to use it for
cerulean quarry
its 0:10 AM for me where is Beta 🤨
limber tiger
@stoic orchid Hey! Sorry for the ping
Do you know any Mojang developper that work on the Marketplace part who has a email or a way to be contacted or even a way to contact the marketplace "team"? I haven't found one and I don't know if you have a piece of information about this
stoic orchid
I'm obviously not going to just post a random email here 🙂
celest sluice
<@485887451085275159> Hey! Sorry for the ping
Do you know any Mojang developper ...
here use mine
[email protected]
limber tiger
I'm obviously not going to just post a random email here 🙂
Well not in this specific place for sure lol
cerulean quarry
limber tiger
here use mine
[email protected]
I hate you 😂
Well it's a really special demand
so it's not about publishing or somewhat related
hoary forge
here use mine
[email protected]
I was gonna ask who’s “si” and then realised that it was you lol
tropic chasm
You are not going to receive it.
cerulean quarry
I'm obviously not going to just post a random email here 🙂
@stoic orchid Is, anywhere PIN to your credit card? I can't find it anywhere, i even asked ChatGPT
quasi wedge
For some reason they hid a couple numbers on the other side of the card, I don't know what goof messed that up.
stoic orchid
<@485887451085275159> Is, anywhere PIN to your credit card? I can't find it anyw...
1234
hoary forge
<@485887451085275159> Is, anywhere PIN to your credit card? I can't find it anyw...
She’s a ChatGPT NPC, she doesn’t know what that is
nevermind
tropic chasm
kayla how much money you would have if it were the numbers of your credit card?
important question.
stoic junco
dang i just opened up discord just to see this
cerulean quarry
1234
oh, cool, now i have to search for your credit card on docs i guess, are there any APIs for that?
cerulean quarry
dang i just opened up discord just to see *this*
good luck, and GN!
mystic thistle
I'm obviously not going to just post a random email here 🙂
You could have had fun here
stoic orchid
You could have had fun here
nobody would win at that game...
hoary forge
nobody would win at that game...
we can try to win
stoic orchid
the only winning move is not to play
limber tiger
.30 preview daaaaaaaaay
obsidian lark
When will bedrock get macros (the new extremely useful command feature in today'...
Honestly, it doesn't really need it. Scripting is just a lot more capable than commands.
Plus scripting already has macros through template literals in JS.
I kind of wish Java would adopt a real scripting system. The devs complain how we aren't using commands right when they're abusing commands more than us.
hoary forge
The devs abuse the commands more than us?? Interesting.
obsidian lark
Commands were supposed to be basic utility things you can run. Not an entire scripting system.
hoary forge
I probably will never forget the first time I started playing Minecraft
tropic chasm
Neither I will, I think it was on an iPhone 5
celest sluice
I remember reading a tweet saying when Bedrock will get /random
"Bruh we have /scoreboard"
stoic orchid
On Bedrock our focus isn't to build out /commands into a scripting language, we are focusing on extending the usefulness of the JavaScript engine we've embeded with more APIs.
obsidian lark
I just want to know what the plan is for commands on Java. I'm all for more features, but as someone who literally knows everything about them, they're just becoming very hacky. It's basically a substitute for a real scripting system.
celest sluice
Scripting is so cool!
obsidian lark
On Bedrock our focus isn't to build out /commands into a scripting language, we ...
Yeah, I really like what your team has been doing.
Please convince the Java devs to add scripting.
celest sluice
Come on, we all know Bedrock devs don't like to talk to Java "people" /j
stoic orchid
This isn't a "Bedrock vs. Java, who is right" thing. Both products are doing what we think is best with the constraints we all live in.
obsidian lark
They're literally in the same office in Stockholm.
celest sluice
➡️ /j
celest sluice
They're literally in the same office in Stockholm.
Also to be fair, not all Bedrock devs are in stockholm iirc
obsidian lark
This isn't a "Bedrock vs. Java, who is right" thing. Both products are doing wha...
I know, but I just feel like things could be better after experiencing both platforms.
celest sluice
technical parity definitely ain't a priority that's for sure
stoic orchid
technical parity would slow everything down a great deal
celest sluice
I'm fine with this. Plus certain things can only realistically be done on one edition or the other
hoary forge
I can’t wait for the day we finally see slash commands in ScriptAPI
obsidian lark
I've just been mainly thinking about new users to data packs on Java. The amount of things you need to learn is insane.
plush wedge
It didn't have to be this way
It could've been the same from the beginning. The two editions could even share a network protocol. It would have been better together 🥺
celest sluice
It didn't have to be this way
It could've been the same from the beginning. The ...
delete Java. Noted
obsidian lark
I can’t wait for the day we finally see slash commands in ScriptAPI
Misode ported Java's command parser to TS if you want to use the same system.
plush wedge
Instead, we have artificial differences that are used to justify further artificial differences
hoary forge
Brigadier in Bedrock? I’m all in
celest sluice
It had different priorities
plush wedge
Touchscreen support is not the kind of differences I'm referring to
stoic orchid
Instead, we have artificial differences that are used to justify further artific...
nobody here is sitting around intentionally trying to make more differences
obsidian lark
Java had it for a couple snapshots and quickly reverted it.
tropic chasm
who added shovels to boats
yeah
hoary forge
I wonder if the same dev added it to Java
tropic chasm
that person deserves a trophy
celest sluice
there's a troller amogus
but on the subject of parity I'm very happy with what has been accomplished
Can't wait to see what's next
hopefully offhand
tropic chasm
I want to have boats with durability
stoic junco
few years ago me would try import java texture pack to bedrock and wonder why it doesn work
obsidian lark
Brigadier in Bedrock? I’m all in
Would be nice if Bedrock adopted Brigadier too. It's just a superior command parser.