#General Discussion
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Well, I tried with the potion item and it got replaced, but it was from within game files.
I'll try again with vanilla items
From within resource packs
1.20.10 tomorrow!
hope so
don't forget about crawling
the parity recipe too.
boat no longer requires wood shovel and cobweb are no longer turning into 9 strings
boat without shovel looks logicless to me
yeah, that's java thing.
without shovel how would you go forward?
Mojang should've add shovel in java boat recipes instead removing shovel from bedrock boat recipes
back then in java, you don't have uh shovel-like thing on the boat. you just slowly ascend forward for some reason. also that's the worst boat control ever.
Btw any idea what's 1.21 update gonna be?
that was alpha version's of Minecraft (ig)
It exists since alpha to 1.8
boat overhaul (from bedrock) now joins on java in 1.9 iirc
I guess combat revamp thing
also The End and Jungle needs an update
pretty sure the end got its update before
we would never have elytra at the first place.
but for some reason people seems demand another the end update.
yeah but the end feels kina empty [shelker, elytra, DragonEgg, Ender trim or whatever it's called, EnderPearl (could be obtained in overworld or in nether)] except these the end doesn't have anything else
In my perspective
those items were endgame.
you'll have to beat dragon first if you wanna get shulker or elytra
or just, bridge like thousands blocks from the main island to others where end city should be located
I guess this is the way mojang rewards you from beating dragon.
forgot about the update thing let's talk about parity features like nether portal to get back from end
right
I really hope they will fix ASAP the giant item in hand with HD resources pack
yeah I hope so too, that bug is mad annoying
Well thankfully I don’t use a HD resource pack, although I used to not too long ago
For people like me who works on HD RP it's annoying asf
hopefully
Sometimes I don't understand mojang artists
In red the vanilla one and green how it should be
This one's for you people.
https://www.planetminecraft.com/data-pack/minecraft-bedrock-boat-recipes-for-minecraft-java-edition/
The devil himself
anyone know of a good way to prevent all mob_spawners from spawning if i have them placed?
torches on all sides doesn't stop chickens. and /gamerule domobspawning false doesn't stop them from spawning
Fun fact: when they overhauled boats in 1.13, the recipe was changed in a snapshot to have a shovel, but it was later reverted.
While the shovel makes sense, it makes boats tedious to craft. It would be the next dispenser.
I remember that lol
I hated that change, glad it didn’t make it
Uhm, with your mind?
Normal way of traveling. Ask endermans.
My brain say: with hand
then rip to your hand. XD
New Vines from last leak is real
https://twitter.com/Funny_Anar/status/1678627979956568066?t=94hWYQXb4X2CYpdih8PPAg&s=19
suspicious
what about release today?
No it isnt...that account is not trustworthy
it is for me bcz everything he told before is true
🤷 Ok then, I just dont trust that account for the shenanigans they pulled in mc discord and twitter
Not really, 1.16.40 added brutes and 1.19.10 added allay dupe
Blueberry vines
I don't think they've really added any blocks outside of main updates though
🤔 Candles?
One could argue a new sniffer plant still belongs to the main update
The five people that have used Sniffers will be very happy
Yes
Because they wasn't supposed to be in part one
But a few weeks before release of 1.17 they decided to put them back
But Bedrock team didn't have enough time for that
So they added them 1.17.10
Or .20, I don't remember
I don’t trust them too
Yeah they seen to share fake information
Yeah
This screenshot is like they took a screenshot inside game file
But we never seen them soooo
They also said we will get an End update
Oh and by the way
1.20.10 releases today
I saw that tweet
Yeah, that’s why I’m here :D
Me trying to convert Malaysias timezone to East Coast timezone to calculate when beta drops
They drop between 5:30PM CEST to 6PM CEST
it drops at 12am haha
But for Windows Store it drops one hour later
💀 Oh yeah...screw that Im sleeping lmao. I can always diff check 6 hours later
Noooo
iirc malaysia has 1 hours late than mine so I'm guessing around 11pm - 2am
Bedrock team dropping banger betas while Im on vacation 🙏
They will probably drop big betas when I go on vacation lol
This week's one will probably gonna be huge
it will probably be called 1.20.20.22
obviously for bedrock people I guess
and include 1.20.20.21 stuff
The only thing I want is the fix for HD resource packs
same
I wish Mojang starts adding more useful entities like the allay. The sniffer and the camel are here just for decoration it seems
With the new sniffer plants… I would say the luck potion should have been back, that would give a use to both, the sniffer and the potion.
I still very much like the sniffer for the journey you go on to get it, just that alone is already rewarding to me
But I do wish the sniffer had a better sniffing mechanic + more decorative plants, because what it has currently seems very bare
I think the camel is fine but I wish it didn’t just spawn once in a desert village
Allay was definitely great though, would love more utility mobs like that
I thought the glare actually could’ve been pretty cool especially since it was mentioned that it could help light up dark places for you
Plus while the community labeled it as a mob that F3 can just do, F3 is only in java and the mob would be quite useful in bedrock and for players who don’t use f3
for sure?
Pretty sure
thanks
Lets goooo molang in bone visibility
No news yet, but they are trying to make it stable, so it should become in a futuru update (that isn't in the year 2149)
If the basic features work fine without too many troubles, then it could be released, that is at least the plan according to kayla
I think it will get to stable in one of the 1.20.x updates
Perhaps not in .20, perhaps .30 🙂
Think I heard they are going to progressively roll out presets?
Ah well let's just hope that's in the next like 2/4 weeks...
might have to use teleporting still in the mp project then
Doubtful lol, I’d put your estimation in the months
yeah lmfao
Smh MB us HCF creators had to wait 3 years, feel our pain
Maybe experimental cameras will be rebranded to holiday camera features 😳
loser
Lol, @stoic orchid 🤪 make it happen
Yes please, also you can go on a holiday after that
You in Malaysia for vacation?
it should drop at midnight for you
mine would drop around 11pm since im an hour behind MY
sad
oh god, you’re 7 hours ahead of me
or should I say 7 hours into the future
lol
i could complain about the ping of connecting to us servers from asia speaking of asia
Happy stable day maybe?
Me, by reflect: Is that @old stream's old pfp?
release today perhaps.....?(please)
🤨 silent msg?
Pinging someone without send notification (+ sound)
Adding @silent in front of a message, will send a ping without notification (sound) @rough path
what's the fuck is that icon
hover over it :)
No need to get mad about it lol
silent message icon
Its just an icon
i ain't mad 
discord adding features without telling anyone
what is it used for?
It was announced to me a couple of updates ago
ah
This
aaaah okay
stable in 9 minutes? 🥺
can there be a 3rd version of Minecraft called AlmostStable Minecraftview where I can play on the next stable release instead of preview
you mean a pre-release?
no, a Minecraft-Almost-Stable-But-Not-Yet Preview version
Me when I predict time of stable
Release Candidate?
😉 #1128351163025211412
Yay bone visibility molang
Yes!
Glad aren't you
No, worst day of my life.
and now hes sent a screenshot of a developer version
the screenshot looks fabricated
some of the ui elements are blurry
its a troll
a fake developer version
gadget of a human
Preview today!!
hopefully
It's still Tuesday in my timezone. 
it’s 🍌 day my dudes :D
yes, but wasn't the debug info hardcoded back then?
I don't think so you can change info in it using any addons or resource packs
that's... 100% fake
and a really pathetically bad attempt at it too
I would not trust that guy, all he's done from the looks of it is cosplay as a mojang dev for some weird reason
Yeah, I never trusted him and never will
also I think he’s banned from the official minecraft discord server
Context?
New version is that?
You don’t know what a preview is?
it’s basically beta
MC?
Yeah
aaas Okay
Banana man :D
the person who post bananas every preview
also hi lilly!!
heya king!
how’ve you been?
The man behind the fruits stock
doing alright, apparently i need to complete my college thing that is required today so it was quite hefty for me idk procastination during holiday kinda killing me
I’m glad to hear that you’re doing alright! Good luck with college!!
hehe thanks, it's quite sudden because it is holiday for a few weeks now
i hope you have a wonderful holiday!
When 🍊
We got one yesterday :D
Another please 🙏
👀 1.20.20
Google Keyboard emoji generated?
Eagerly awaiting stable free camera please thank you Kayla
Yeppp
LOL
I want that
idk why but if there's any huge sticker my mind jumps to Googlekeyboard
Because it almost always is
iOS
Awkward
I actually don’t know
also I don’t think Gboard exists as an app in iOS
Aight I sleep
Good night!
Kayla I'm waiting for you to release cameras thank you
I could never use iOS cause it is very strict with customization
Good night :)
^ Yes!
True
Preview today?
beta day my dudes?
it’s 🍌 day my dudes :D
It does I think
I downloaded it at one point
I seen people using gboard on iOS before
Yeah
so yeah might exist
Never knew
though you won't have the same feature as android so definitely not worth a try
I think there are stickers
oh they have stickers
Minecraft: Gboard edition
you can play minecraft with Gboard now. WASD for movement and mouse? nobody needs a mouse.
Featuring state of the art keyboard technology that allows you to get 2.23 second of input delay on each key press so you never not miss those jumps off cliffs you always wanted to do
Download now! (Gboard sold seperately)
Preview today?
preview incoming
1.20.20.21!!
i think @hoary forge will write his own . hes looking for the changes on the preview
he is not writing his own
Yay!
There's Norway he gets that done before the change log drops
he is godspeed
I never install the preview early lol
No air tag
I always install it on iOS after the changelog is out
It would be really funny if there was a way to detect if a block was air in a much better API system than Jason
maybe one day
Nah
Why
Because you can already detect it
Fun fact: You can buy air tags
what we really need is a way to detect a player is trying to use something on water
😠
Screw u. That's why I started saying Air block tag
Yey
not me thinking this again
Hello
oh i hope the changelog isn't one bugfix
Hello ConMaster!
atleast 2
Changelog:
- added features
Better than
- removed features
they always say
- Various bug fixes
Changelog
- Nothing changed.
or something like that
Changelog
- Stuff
Is banana man in vacation today?
🤷
i made a superb graphic for preview day
here
Well, I guess everyone who voted yes is wrong 😂
https://twitter.com/xkingdarkyt/status/1679139313789939714?s=46
it's 🍌 day my dudes!
do you think we will be getting 1.20.20.22 today?
yep
Changelog out!
Oh my banana
@rough path !!!
hwat
loool
interesting
OPS breaks, and they come adding a gamerule!
new cripting feature! Exposed MoonPhase and World.getMoonPhase to script
Script events in stable scripting!
recipe recipe unlocking is a toggolable feature?
without a toggle i may add
😄
If we got anyone here that knows about the current state of Xbox keyboard support. Help us upvote this
Upvote this for Xbox people 
https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-172935
Is is possible to add more details to it, or an image/video? Would help those who don't use keyboard on Xbox (or an Xbox at all) understand what's going on.
Not really because it’s more or less a features they had before. Where you didn’t have to enter the chat box before being able to type & not being able to auto-fill.
But I’ve seen a lot of Xbox commanders resign their interest because of this recent change
I'm not able to visualize what you're talking about
All I know is that there was an update that had the xbox onscreen keyboard pop up and people didn't like that much
Yeah, that is part of it
But the biggest thing is Xbox is able to use keyboard to type
But you were able to type before having to enter that ui on the screen and with that auto-fill no-longer works with that aswell.
Does anyone has a cool hardcore mode add-on for BE
Its easy
Placedown a command block, set "/kill @a" set the cmd block to repeating without redstone, set enable command block to true, set ur gamemode to survival
Its super hard, no one beats Minecraft with this mode yet 💀
bro doesn't know what hardcore is
Chat, explain sarcasm to this guy 💀
i was also being sarcastic 😪
Another tweet from this guy
in this photo it seems developer version on top middle
so the leak could be real
not 100% blurry though
surely those dev edition ui elements were not edited in later
it's seems real
fake
He leak the major uodate toggle (°_+)
That screenshot is photoshopped
I don't think dev edition has DEVELOPMENT on top of the UI
Yeah, it doesn’t
this screenshot was taken from a video on youtube that was posted by a mp partner, those settings are now blurred in that video.
what!!!!
Yeah
That reminds me to Roger Badgerman
There could be another Roger Badgerman
I remember when I got upset because he posted a video of how editor mode works ||and I might’ve accidentally leaked the date because of what he did 😅||
The leak was too perfect until his twitter got suspended
yeah but the guy you were talking about posts nonsense and probably smells like rotten oranges
Wouldn't the text say RENDERDRAGON?
it’s fake
Yeah I figured
I thought it was real only for this leak (:
oopsy
Yeah, he took that screenshot from a youtube video
hope the partner is ok
same!
can i see the vdo if it's still available
i have to look for it, one sec
gday
This is should be the leak :v
that's very blurry
Stupid yt compression
They have nothing to worry about there
Yeah, it's just a dev command
The biggest give away this is fake is the server time in a world can't be 0.0
The /camera now has been out publicly
the camera command was different back then
I can’t seem to find the link… I think i’ve lost it 😅
Iirc you can change roll rotation (z-rot) back then, no?
wasn't he literally was banned from the minecraft discord for impersonating staff
Yeah
need for attention?
🤷 Impersonation bad, but does drive up engagement and seeing how they have 9k followers I'd say it works
I don’t like it tbh
even though it brings more engagement and followers, I just don’t
Impersonation can get you in trouble
yeah, using the old version of the command, you could basically kinda pocess a entity's perspective by changing the camera perspective to a entity in a nearby radius.
By pressing F5, you can still see your player perspective in third person and still be able to break and place stuff.
this one is absolutely fake.
seriously.
why is generic json-ui expect that ping "json-ui" thing are so blurry
and secondly, the beta text thing on the top
It's not even a text anymore
It's just someone who slapped photoshop text and put it up there expecting it to look like "beta" or "preview". and also that random button on player doll is literally blurry too. another thing is wasn't PowerVR is really old SOC GPU and made for low-end phones? that does not make sense either for mojang devs using REALLY low-end phones to test their game.
this person who made this screenshot or I would say "leaked" preview/beta is absolutely a joke.
with this person who has shady history from the start for "impersonating" mojang employee or mojang employee wannabe, I'd say that do not trust this person at absolutely all.
@hoary forge Hmm I have evidence you commit impersonation 😏
The low end hardware was what I noticed too. Generally when you make a dev build of a game, you don't optimize it so you can debug it easier. So I wouldn't be surprised if a real dev build has higher requirements.
yeah, with a old low-end hardware gpu and minecraft? that thing won't go anywhere with 15fps, 4 render distances and all graphic off.
what
nvm
Everyone I know on xbox is grateful for the change, and they were pretty upset when the update first came out (ages ago now)
Yeah, but still hasn’t changed… and everyone I know says otherwise to the current state of it being pretty messed up.
And it’s pretty agreeable; me being on pc.
yeah
Do armor trims have separate material from armor?
they can be different, but it can also be the same
Didn't find new materials in vanilla files for it.
oh that's what you meant by material
I thought you meant like the material used to apply the trims
did you just code another bot for those notifications?
When I changed armor material, it didn't change trims material though. 🤔
@coral basin?
this bot is just for testing purposes
ik. Can already know that by the name itself
/worldborder & /team commands be like: why Bedrock community and Mojang are ignoring me?
a team command would be very good, no more player.json
meanwhile the /scoreboard in the shadow realm:
Even the Java devs don't like how we're using scoreboards. 😅

ya we should be more able to manage somehow damage system from commands or somehow not static like player.json
Yooo. Guys I got hypesquad badge!!!!!
Balance >
is it 🍌 day?
Not in my time zone
🍌
Chill, it ain’t even 9 pm over in Redmond lol
You’ve doomed us all of a week with no beta
I don’t think it will be a big one but will see
I guess ✅
Wouldn't talking about it be under NDA too?
people here have already seen the new screens anyways
Preview day?
Yesn’t
Hopefully :D
Where Beta?
On it's way
not yet
Usually Testflight is the first one to show, I will wait on that first
👍
should be.
Still waiting for the nuke to hit scripting this preview cycle
That’ll happen on the 21st
any preview signals?
Nope
tomorrow mb
its too soon to closing this day to day
:(
You know, I honestly thought that was the latest preview
it is link to latest preview not depending on time
so click on it again since next one releases xd

🍌
let’s not start spamming banana emojis
seeing this made me remember customizable touch contorls. When are those coming bruh
its been soooooo long
They’re coming when they’re ready :D
the ui has been "leaked" months ago
Not today
is kayla on vacation?
Yep
Likely postpone till tommorow? Since stable hotfix is release?
I miss kayla
same
Nope
no the bot
it’s still 1.20.20.21 on TestFlight
be carefull it could expire in 83 days
:(
83 days is a long time
that’s the time when the version will expire
i still don't know why it's limited testing on IOS.
it’s not
ya, but maybe we are not going to get new beta in 4 months 💀
Can't they just pull the app out into the app store directly instead of testflight?
When a new version releases it resets to 90 days
I mean the slots are pretty limited.
so a few people might not be able to join right
Ik.
Im talking about the slots.
The amount of access that is available to players.
It's enough until 2 minor version out
Can't they just put the app directly on the app store instead of putting in some slots thing like testflight
also, i have no idea about how testflight works since I don't use an IOS device.
I don't clearly have an idea
It’s kinda late for a beta
come back tomorrow if we get one!
its 6:22 in stockholm
no beta to day guys
they release the beta by 6 mostly
but maybe in 20 mins it could still release
Certification standards would be higher for an app directly on the App Store I’d think
is it bad that i have stockholm time, usa time and my local time on my clock widget to track the beta?
Maybe that’s why they don’t have preview on Android rn
Mojang is a multi billion dollar company, they already have certifications with ms store and google. So the thing shouldn't be big in general. Considering mojang is under Microsoft. That is easier for them though
owned by
I mean certification by apple
I sent that message minutes before lol
Also apple review times can be long, Minecraft doesn’t get special treatment as far as I’m aware
Hm
tbf apple releases has been always pretty on point rn
That aside, what about google though. That's different from apple.
Also if they just release preview on android, we will no longer have to say Beta/Preview every time.
I dunno about google
they have struggled to put betas on time multiple times
So maybe that’s the reason why there’s no preview, but don’t know for sure
i dont think Minecraft gets special treatment from google as well
tbf their own parent company's store struggles to put previews or full release on time lol
But I don't think so google has system like testflight so i imagine it would be whole seperate app like windows does.
Android apps definitely do have less restrictions than apple apps do so I would think it’d be easier to put preview on the google play store than the apple App Store
That's what my point is.
they have to track who has minecraft installed and figure out a way to give the prewiews to those only.
i have not seen any app do such thing tho
wroung thread
Android does have a beta program already but not sure if that can extend to a separate app
i think Toobox for minecraft pe does some thing like that
or just introduce a launcher for all platforms. :D
Tlauncher already does one if you didn't know.
For mobile
malware
isnt tlauncher for mobile just a Resource pack app?
Ik. But im talking about the features they tried making of.
I havent looked into tlauncher in really long time
Tlauncher is sketchy as hell
is tlauncher not on play store?
honestly the mind of you suggesting one is already shaking my head
Like launcher for android to make versions accessible
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Next year Microsoft will release their own app store on Android (and iOS too thanks to the new EU laws) - so I think Minecraft Preview will be added to the store.
#off-topic
Ms store on android and ios?
Yeah but for mobile gaming
Xbox store*
Xbox Mobile App Store
Don't we have that already? ._.
We were talking about ways previews could be on android but got distracted by tlauncher lmao
It is not for store
oh wait. Nvm
that's why i told #off-topic
Thr main point here is the topic of Minecraft Preview on Android!
could they not build preview on top of minecraft full release so it actually launches Minecraft but with preview on top
I know it is in works. Should be out sometime in future.
like how Toolbox For Minecraft PE does. Its not a seperate minecraft, it just runs on top of already installed minecraft
preview is just a newer version of the beta. They just only renamed and rebranded the old beta to preview and converted it into a seperate app so you wouldn't need xbox insider anymore.
It ain't a full release.
So the preview is seperate on Windows because it is a seperate product id. Minecraft and Minecraft Preview are two different UWP apps.
iOS test flight, and Android beta programs don't support providing a seperate product it just pushes a more up to date version to replace the stable version
tbf they could just make a new launcher for android with ability to download preview if minecraft is installed
So iOS & Android they can't give you a second app for free which is preview if you own the main game. So preview has to replace stable
WHAT? IOS preview is not a seperate app?
oh yea. Forgot about the product id.
Hmm I thought iOS preview was a separate app
Been a long while since I had the preview on iOS though
i always thought ios preview was a seperate app to regular minecraft!
@hoary forge I know you have iOS preview can you confirm if it is a separate app to iOS release or not?
The preview on iOS is a separate app afaik
because you can have both stable and preview installed
yeah that’s what I thought, thanks 👍
This is what I wanted to say, Mojang maybe waiting the Xbox Mobile App for Android Preview.
thats actually really useful too.
Is Kayla still in vacation?
So TestFlight does allow for separate apps so Minecraft Preview can easily go there
Now as for Android I don’t know how easily you can have a separate app made just for testing but I would imagine it’s not as hard as putting a new app on the apple App Store, but google’s beta program (which Minecraft currently uses) I know does replace your stable version
Yes :(
The solution will be
This.
Maybe yeah
Isn't Kayla a NPC? Why they have vacation?
To add more data to the database?
OGs remember when you opted into the Android beta by joining a Google+ group
They cant just provide the preview publicly too. So they have to figure out ways to see if minecraft is installed or owned by that account and just give preview to those. it might be easier with a seperate store or launcher.
so maybe this
That too yes
no sign of bananas 🍌 ):
Hmmmm
i wouldn't expect one today. its too late
sorry wrong message replied to
i wouldn't expect one today. its too late
It's fine, prob tomorrow (today)
Yeah it won’t be today but do u guys remember when we had the preview at 7 PM? That was so fun day
Is this some sort american time i am too asian to understand
Europe
can we just talk stockholm time here so it will be easier to look for betas too. also consistancy
no need, previews release at the same time every single week
they stole my 🍌 :(
isnt stockholm work hours till like 4 or 5? so how do they release betas at 6
is there some scheduling going on? can you schedule a app release on ios,android and windows?
I think they release from the Redmond office
its the same for snapshots too..
Snapshots are a bit earlier I think, idk
no beta today so i might as well play some minecraft and sleep. goodnight everyone ttyt(talk to ya'll tomorrow) for the beta.
yeah you can schedule releases.
for betas at least, since certification, they do not literally cut the beta and build it the day of
it is fairly preplanned
Yeah!
No preview 😦
Why do you do this to us thomas?
Anyways. That just means bigger beta next week!
I like how Thomas always gets blamed when we don’t get a preview 😂
We still have a chance. Tomorrow for sure!
Nah
It's not my fault!
Yay!!!
Ha!
You are welcome /s
It's 🍌 day my dudes!
;-;
Happy Preview Day!
Also don’t expect a new toggle since Kayla is still in vacation.
I am soo waiting for control customization! If they let us do that's with json as placeholder, i would be happy too. :(
What you will do it
🍌 day?
yes!
Put the attack and interact button at the bottom and jumo and sneak at top
How long till beta
/preview
It could release any minute (usually around this time)
But since they have been very very busy, I could be a bit later than usual
🥱 Gets released in 6 hours
Dont jinx it💀
🍌
the last one released about 30 minutes from when i'm sending this msg i think
preview today?
Yes
If only we had a predictable time when Previews release so we didn't have to say that
Java snapshots don't release on a predictable time either
that's the thing though, Bedrock previews always release around 9 am
or 30 minutes from now
whatever your time zone is
They release at 6pm Stockholm time
Or around that
Give or take 15 minutes
So about 20 minutes from now
Its 5:40 stockholm
Imagine if its just a single line related to a command change
In the changelog
Preview is rolling out now on iOS
:D
https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/17027817308045-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-20-10-25-Android-Only- Or my favorite
Update!
🍌!!!
Just waiting for the log of the change
Oh wait I am too late
I think we need more people posting the changelog link imo
in case you missed it
Thank you
Omg, the 1.20.20.22 preview!! 😍
Btw guys there was a preview today! https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/17785920851725
:O
I don't know why nobody talked about it, but today it's a preview day https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/17785920851725
nah, you all have outdated link here is lates one: https://aka.ms/minecraftbeta
Ok I had this a thought for a while but do you think the bug reporting is still worth it on BE, even though most of the times the bug that is reported, regardless on how fast you report it, can only be fixed in the next minor/major update rather than the very next or two preview/beta version?
Because most of the preview stages are just:
First preview: New (most of the times minor) features/changes, bug fixes that came from the previous minor update that "didn't get fixed in time".
Second preview: Another wave of features/changes, and bug fixes, some of which was from the previous preview version, but some from the previous minor/major update.
Third/Fourth preview: Just bug fixes (minimum of 5 at best) and technical changes if needed.
"Beyond those" preview: Maybe just 3, or just one bug fix/changes for a week worth of development time. (this part really hits me because you can have a week worth of good bug fixes, but then you also got a week worth of basically just one, and yes, one or three bug fix that is only gonna affect like 1-5% of the player, and some of the bug fixes may already been put out on hotfixes).
I highly doubt for the later previews in the cycle they're spending a week just to fix 1-3 bugs
I would imagine they are getting the update ready to go for certification and doing internal QA to catch any important issues, which may get fixed in the later previews, internally, or saved for a hotfix soon after
And the developers who develop the major features start doing work on the features that will come in the next cycle
What we see is just 1-3 bug fixes after a week but I would think it's always busy busy in the studio
With the current update cycle, yes many bugs have to get pushed to the next update, especially when they're reported late in the cycle
What's best for players to do is keep on top of the previews and report all bugs, especially important ones, early in the cycle so they have a higher chance to get fixed in the same cycle
The issue is that even on the brand new feature such as trail ruins, those bugs will end up on stable anyway
Hence the rant is justified.
🥱 3 months update cycle when? Gives time for addon devs to update and fixes more bugs
The trail ruins issue (the detached one) seems to be a hard problem for them to fix
Seems akin to the mobs spawning in the ancient cities bug back in 1.19
In difficulty to fix that is
Hmm yea, although do you think some bug fixes that does irk players should be always be fixed on the same cycle?
Or should it be as it is and that bug reporting is useless?
I mean well bugs should be fixed but I don't think it's the developers' intention to leave them unfixed, it's just a consequence of the current cycle length and complexity of each bug I think
And the importancy of the bug
Then why the current cycle length hasn't been considered to be changed? 🤔
I think the best thing players can do is use all the tools that the bug tracker provides
So not only reporting bugs, but reporting them in an organized and informative way; commenting on issues with important issues; using search filters to keep track of major bugs (I have some filters that pinpoint issues that arise specifically in an update cycle!); and informing others in the community about them
I think it should be changed but I guess the main benefit is faster updates and faster delivery of new features
It is messy as hell tho
I agree but such is the way rn
1.20.10 actually surprised me, it had a lot of changes under the hood than I expected, thus resulting in a lot of add ons breaking, which a minor update shouldn't be doing
Like I get the criticism but with that kind of voice that Bedrock players are having, you will think Mojang will change their mind on the cycle length and realize what they doing it wrong?
I don't think they'll change their mind anytime soon, maybe in the future idk
Then I don't think "listening to the community" statement holds that well
They have changed some times before, like changing version numbering from every update being a new major version to keeping major versions in line with Java and doing the other Bedrock-specific updates as minor updates
I'm sorry Mojang but like I feel like they're going down the Reddit way
And putting unstable features behind an experimental toggle
If they do change their mind, I think it would be a long time before we see any changes, especially since cycles are quite fast rn
To change that would be a big shift in their development process I think
I get that feeling they just gonna focus a lot on addons/technical changes more because thats where the most money they get, while ignoring the core feature and let it to rot.
Like game animations and rendering are breaking a lot and Mojang just don't care of fixing it
By that point I would die
yeah the visual stuff breaking is common, that stuff tends to stay unfixed for a long time
You have said that way too many times
"I will quite Bedrock if they keep on doing that"
I think they're improving though but they need to not be breaking add ons with a minor update at the very least
Most stuff that breaks is experimental stuff, which is expected cause it is "experimental"
Yeah 1.20.10 was quite weird lol
It's a thing that holds true tho? Like when was the time where most players in the BE community not complaining about bugs or issues or anything pointing weird on BE??
I feel like it's very polar opposite with JE community where most of the players are genuinely giving feedback and praise it deserves
There is a reason to complain, but complaining doesn't fix bugs. You either give out your voice and hope something changes, otherwise you can't do much
Then where my voice goes? Nothing.
Other than becoming an actual Mojang employee to check up what goes wrong, there isn't a perfect way
Then where they are now?
🤷♂️ I hate it as well, but I have given up
Either at work or on vacation
I'm genuniely wanna cry :'/
Just my opinion: You can all cry about it, but it won't change anything.
Either quit the game, or just try to help the developers as much as possible and hoping that they will listen eventually
I'm angry but I'm at the same time just want to see at least a bit of daylight at the end of tunnel here but no
Or play Java :P
Ah yes, I play on Java as a failed person
Many people will ignore me because I'm another insignificant person in the community!
Exactly, know your place. I am in the same exact position as yours, but you won't hear me complain all the time in this channel
Welp, you're not being very helpful here, and so does the entire server here.
And they left... 🥴
I can't believe this..
😦
Did you, drive them out?
maybe they found the end of the tunnel?
and so does the entire server here
Probably, but he is worring about something that is just wasted time and energy. I want him to realise that if he keeps on putting so much energy in this game, he would only get more insane by the day. It is better for him to cool down and do something he can enjoy. I might have taken this the wrong way, but I think it is better for him to quit this game for a while
I have hated this game so much and was also on this same edge (around 1.16/1.17), but I have kept my cool and put my energy into something I did enjoy
this is basically mental issues over a one game.
but yeah, perhaps if vanilla minecraft isn't your game. I suppose there's mods or add-ons that maybe help you up.
RichHeart of all people should know since hes part of BE Tech Community
Longer dev cycles give less opportunity for feedback.
I've said it before each time this gets brought up, a 3 month dev window would delay the response to feedback even more. Work on the next three months of features starts before the release of an update. That planned work might not be able to fit the fixes for work from the previous three months, so they'd be ingested after that work.
Game development is hard, it is a lot of balancing. Mojang seem to have a good balance of all the stakeholders
The Stockholm office are on a Summer break, the Redmond office also had some vacay time and people out. They worked hard to get a major update out for the summer so time off makes sense 😄
Vacation ❌ Maintenance break ✅
A lot of us in game dev are super passionate about what we do, but than can make it really easy to burn out. Health pacing is important
You can stop now Thomas they're gone
I demand even faster update cycles
Every preview is actually a full update for all platforms >:)
And I demand everything experimental gets put in stable right now!!
Weekly update cycles? 🤔
I bet Kayla isn't actually on vacation and has spent these last three weeks adding a air block tag
Air tag toggle is on the way!
She got locked away so she could only work on the air block tag
Oh nooo... well at least we get air block tag!
Thanks for your sacrifice 🥲
Sounds like human rights complainment right here
It looks like you might be able to directly join Bedrock Realms from the launcher now. I'm not in any Bedrock Realms, so I can't see what it looks like.
Java has the same feature too now and it looks like this:
I wonder if Bedrock also has CLI args to directly join a server or singleplayer world. Java got those in 1.20.
Official Launcher ?
Yes.
I will check it now
I'm also running the Beta version. So if it's not there, that's probably why.
Did they released an update on weekend lol
Seems like it.
My Launcher has updated but I can’t find that screen
There should be a Realms tab.
well i have that screen, but eh when you press play it doesnt actually join the world, it only goes to the start screen
If it's a beta feature at the moment, it may still be a work in progress.
I do wish the launcher had the preview patch notes too.
Not sure about Bedrock, but Java patch notes tend to show up on the launcher first.
I'm actually glad Mojang is focusing more on Realms
It is a feature actually forgot by a huge number of the community
They also released the panel on the web site too
So it is a good thing
I just wish they would dedicate more time to the Java Realms content creator program. At the moment, there's just one person maintaining it.
There used to be two people maintaining it, but one was let go.
In the past, there used to be an entire team.
Realms Plus on Bedrock it's the best feature ever released for Realms. We can play more than 150+ marketplace maps for free. It boosted the realms a lot.
While Java doesn't have the marketplace feature and so they need to do in their way
so yeah
The Java content creator program basically gives Java Realms the equivalent of Realms Plus.
They should add a Marketplace and start paying us. That would be nice.
Maps used to be more popular, but real mapmakers are getting harder to find. Most people just make data packs it seems.
yeah
This is super cool!
the what
They're probably referring to the Realms tab on the launcher.
yeah
yes the launcher tab
Realms on Launcher
Realms panel on the web site
In progress feature: Realms Stories
They really working hard on realms nowadays
Realms is due to get some render distance upgrades in the near future as well
Render Distance and Player Slot upgrades are needed
Other than that, I don't know what they can add to realms
any ideas ?
I think more players is definitely the biggest thing that would happen to Realms
People have also requested simulation distance upgrades and more moderation tools
Watchdog system would be cool
Sup peeps
probably off topic but wondering if i should make more stuff like this lol
Time to update the launcher and see how that works :D
Must be in the middle of rollout, 'cause I can't see it.
You need to be in the beta channel
Yeah I was in beta
Same version as in the screenshot
probably something like minecraft://acceptRealmInvite?inviteID={id}
that's specifically to accept a realms invite. I think there's a direct join uri as well
Hi folks - back from vacation. What did I miss?
oh no. did I forget to lock the cage again?
🤔 Check twitter, type minecraft bedrock ig
what's Twitter?
Or better yet check out eckosoldier
𝕏 is a horrible rebrand
agreed
Oh I told everyone you were locked in a cage, awkward
Why you gotta be so weird. 😛
🤔 Didn’t you say something like “kayla locked everyone in a basement” or something like that
I am pretty sure someone asked if you were away working on the air tag
Thomas delayed the preview update while you were gone
Kayla works at Apple?
welcome back kayla!
Me!
WORLD GENERATION
pretty good imo
I'm hopeful for them fleshing out feature stuff soon, though. I was super concerned they were going to try scripting-only with world-gen or otherwise remove Molang from key fields. But they did the right thing (for me 😈).
I guess I'm just hopeful for the return of conditional list features and some means of manually placing features in post-gen with commands or scripting.
Biomes… they can wait.
New custom block stuff is top priority
I'm curious to see what they do at all after 1.20.20. It looks like they're quite near Kayla's immediate goal of getting HCF off the board.
🥱 Yet some of the features are bugged
Which ones?
minecraft:climbable? and more components also inventory
Yeah, which?
I know that in the HCF-realm, minecraft:transformation allows you to have custom blocks that have more than 1 by 1 collision (and also visually more than 1 by 1 selection).
That's probably a bug… unfortunately.
Maybe block traits for that Instead?
Eh, block traits are mostly for states. climbable just kinda… is. Like a component.
Oh yah wrong term
isWaterlogged
on_update would be nice
Meant something like block traits where you can add vanilla behaviors to blocks for stuff like climbing.
But more like component yah
See here: #off-topic message
^
So long as there's some interface for it, I don't care if it's scripting or not.
components would do that with more features in it
btw how much tags can a block have
Idk if limit
I'm kinda trying to make a custom component system using tags and scripts
Seems 1.20.X is the creator features cycle, focus on getting all these tools and features to stable and introducing new ones like editor v0.4, cameras, block traits, scripting, HCF, world gen. Wont be surprised if by 1.21.0.X the toggles will only come down to Biomes, scripting, and Molang experiments
Oh, there's another thing I forgot about.
I think most of the HCF work on entities, blocks, and items is done. But there are some leftover Molang queries from around that time.
They're just perpetually experimental.
Yeah
I'm quite fond of it. Reminds me of C.
The thing is, they had to have something. Like, especially for performance-critical systems like world-gen. Using JSON objects like Java does (did?) would be a nightmare. Using scripting would be too slow. Molang is just right.
I probably should start using it because some stuff are not possible without it
Blocks use it a lot
I still need to test the shooter component
RIP on_dig
It's great now. Well, the bow-like usage of it is. The crossbow-like usage seems broken.
Is it now? I remember the shitshow ot was back in 1.16.100 and how we had to rely on workarounds cuz it simply didnt work
Won't take durability damage anymore when mining unless they add that to the native durability component. (At least on 1.20.20
Yeah, some of these aren't so 100% ready for primetime. But I'd rather them be out and us have something.
Oh cool! I definitely need to get back into Blocks and Items, last time I made something was a couple of years ago. I don’t know what changed and what hasn’t
Stuff
Its gonna be fun once Im back from vacay to fully work om my addon again and update from 1.19.70 to 1.20.10
Well, we're somewhat into 1.20.20 now. Hopefully it won't be too much longer before its release.
Looking forward to blocktraits beoig stable in .20
I say that because of the breadth of this update, of course.
I wonder if minecraft:block_placer forwards context correctly to block traits.
Ah, so many things to test.
I can test
YEP
Nice.
Surprised they did not forget that.
Welcome back btw @stoic orchid :D
Preview when?
Now that we have twitter series x. Twitter series S when?
steals the joke from kayla
@lapis sierra, can you confirm this list for me? I'm having trouble keeping up with everything released lately, especially with my vacation and subsequent fallout, etc. Is this the list of neither stable nor definitively deprecated components?
Probably still haven’t made it into the oven, give it a few more days.
Like, I think those 6 are in limbo.
Well, I'm sure food will come back out soon. It has to.
And I think they had a note about enchantable compatibility recently.
Honestly I don't really keep up with what item components are stable. I don't think any of those of those are deprecated though.
They fixed efficiency enchant pretty sure
What with the weird names? Server?
Well, yeah. I have notes on the now- (currently-?) deprecated client item components, too.
No idea how but I'm entirely confused what we're talking about right now.
What part?
Which of my messages was this in response too? This? #1019692489596215388 message
In response to the one above it about names.
Oh
We're also missing a way to verify if a block can be silk touched still
Ugh a new stable got released but there's no thread
1.20.13.01 seems to have a BDS release but can't see a release article
iOS isn't real.
Ah IOS
I was so confused cause I got like an update on my phone, but I didn't saw a changelog here
@hoary forge We must need 1.20.13 here of course
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every day i remember how we were robbed of 1.19.84
robbed, or saved?
Robbed
kayla has more information than us, her opinion is more than an opinion.
@stoic orchid Can you tell me What's the uses of these? immoveable was a component so that means rest of them are too? I'm curious
Pretty sure they only for vanilla blocks
Woudl be cool if we could use
Lol. I'm gonna set bedrock at 0, 0.05, 0
That wrong. Will open issue
Me when placing bedrock at 1.3, 3.4, 5.7
gifted
or maybe all?
yes
Today it’s a preview day (and maybe a snapshot day too)
steals xkingdark line directly
could it also be 🐸 day?
no! banana 🍌 please