Inktober Day #9

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Tell everyone that the present will be me being there

Then you are certain to get a ton of pll

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Guest star appearance

You’ve never seen my brother’s art have you?

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One time

When he left sum in magma

I can’t really remember it tho

So basically no

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I gotchu

It’s fire

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The first one, the more I looked, the more I liked

I usually

Don’t like the white border thing

But that somehow works out with that one

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This dude has told me so much lore and development abt these characters

But he doesn’t post even though he likes getting feedback and praise

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I can definitely tell at least two of them

Are established characters

Ill have to see more of the other ones

Did I ever tell u

Abt how I joined a femboy server?

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Yes

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Fr? I don’t remember

Usually when I ask did I ever tell u, im expecting a no

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Yeah nah you brought it up before lol

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Dang, well, wuts sum else crazy I did

Lets narrow that down, sum crazy I did I can talk about

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Oh i thought you were about to elaborate on the femboy topic

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I thought u said I talked abt it already

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You did but i thought you had more to say about it lmao. Instagram thought it would be funny to put a femboy in my reels the other day

Now that i think about it

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I was recommended a femboy tiktok video on youtube

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Femboys might be the furthest ppl away from my type

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Not too long ago

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Weird recommendation

Dont ask if I watched it tho

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Fr?

I mean, girls are my type

If you look like a girl

Then thats it

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Thas- thas a piece of logic right there

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No

No

Nononono

Well

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https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-thinking-anime-naruto-gif-13593873

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As long as im the man in the relationship

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As long as you wear the pants and he wears the skirt

I see what you’re sayin✍️

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I have also developed a new opinion on femboys over time, liking femboys is not gay

Because because

Hear me out

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It’s gay.

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Nononono, hear me out

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I hear but i may not listen

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If the brain thinks it’s a girl, and liking girls is homosexual, then liking femboys who the brain thinks is a girl, is homosexual

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Do you mean heterosexual 💀

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Fuuuuuuuuu

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Because MY argument is that is is homosexual

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But like

If the femboy is clearly a dude

I can’t like it

They have to look adequately girly for me to like them

Thats why

Its not gay

I rest my case

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Ok but

If they look like a girl

But then you learn it’s a boy n u still attracted

Thas a lil gay

Is that not at least a little gay?

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As a wise man once said—“Don’t sweat the small things.”

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Well you see

It’s a lil gay cuz

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Im listening

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Your argument hinges on the fact that before the reveal, if the femboy is feminine enough, there is an illusion that he is female

But if you learn he is a boy, you have thus shattered the illusion

So if you look at the shattered illusion n go…still would

Thas gay

https://tenor.com/view/edgeworth-ace-attorney-big-brain-gif-5363889720252618555

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So, so, it goes like this,

In my brain, if a femboy is marked as a female, then it’s revealed they aren’t a female, they are still a female in my head as long as they look like one, meaning, it’s no longer an illusion, it’s my reality

Hemce

It’s not gay

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Mm cognitive dissonance mm

You have failed to convince me

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Well, I’m not exactly the best persuasive speaker, usually why I have my lawyer

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I would hope your lawyer would realize they’ve chosen a very difficult case

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https://tenor.com/view/laugh-anime-chuckle-gif-10903422

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I don’t think there’s a single circumstance where i could find myself attracted to a femboy for some reason

Like

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Whqt abt a manfem?

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Is that a real thing

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Or well I guess that’s just a tomboy

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Yeah

Or a stud

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I wanna hear this tho

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I was finna say it’s weird cuz ion have same ‘rule’ for women who present more masculine

Probably more into feminine girls than masculine ones partially cuz I’m perceived as real masculine by my peers. At that point a girl who is more masculine than me is not the move

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In my head,it makes perfect sense if a girl is attracted to another girl, because I’m attracted to girls, now I know this isn’t the best reasoning

But like, it just makes perfect sense

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I think women are very attractive

But I’m not attractED if that makes sense

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Yea

That’s kinda what im saying

Women are beautiful

Meant to be attractive

So of course other women would think

Other women are attctive

And that means, sometimes they are also

Attracted

Perfect logical sense

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But do men not think other men are handsome or wtv? I’ve wondered if that was because men are kinda raised to not compliment other men in that way or if it was because most men simply don’t think that way

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Well, if I take myself as an example, when I look at micheal jackson, he looks majestic, cool, like the real king of pop, the word handsome doesn’t really pop up in my mind tho

Like, this is actually what I think when I see him

Dont ask me to talk abt his voice tho when he talkin tho

Cuz then all that falls apart

But like, even taking a conventionally “handsome” dude,

I don’t think handsome, most of the time it’s just like, built, or cool, or like chill rich guy

Like, handsome itself dosent really pop up, even if they are a “handsome” guy by all standards

I wouldn’t use

Handsome to describe that

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Well yeah ion think most men in general use that word

Or even women tbh. Thas like a word a mom uses when her son puts in a suit for prom or some sh

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I also pretty much agree with what u wer saying bfor,

It’s probably because of conditioning

And probably sum more

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Mm. Cuz completely hetero women have no issue calling their friend hot n things like that. I mean acknowledging someone as attractive is not the same as being attracted ofc so it’s not like thas some confusing phenomenon or anything

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“Ay you look pretty nice man”

Is probably as far as a dude is ganna go

With another dude

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I would imagine it’s easier for guys to compliment something specific?

Like oh those shoes are fire

Rather than you look good in those shoes

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Literally just abt to say shoes

But also like cars, jewelry, etc, a guy doesn’t really focus on the appearance of another guy much

Its more like

What the guy has around him

Or owns

Probably stems from ape mind, tribal era

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Lol ig that makes sense tho

Me personally I wouldn’t call my friend hot. Actually i think specific compliments are just better in general idk

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I would call my friend hot everyday

I see them in the mirror quite often

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Ig like everything it still depends on the person tho. My guy best friend would probably say someone looks good rather than a specific compliment

Whereas i have a bit of a boundary regarding sayin things like that and would rather go for specific things

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I just remembered this stemmed from femboys somehow

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Yea, I wouldmprob compliment more on like

Specific things

Cars, shoes

Etc

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Skirt, thigh highs, etc

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Now ur speaking my language

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I feel like for women I’m more attracted to appearance based things but for men it’s more so personality based things🤔 like i find more types of women physically attractive than types of men

Oh and voices. Voices are very important

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Yes

Voices are make are break sometimes

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Bro deep voices🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Men or women idc

🙏🙏🙏🙏

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I

Think I said it enough before

But I have a pretty deep voice

Which I think pairs well with my face

Which creates a kind of synnergy

I have seen some youtube videos with public speakers that have voices deep as hell, most likely they did sum, and their face does not match at all

And it creates this kinda weird disarray for me

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Bruh that feeling increases ten fold when it’s a singer

Like why does you talking/singing sound like a voice over💀

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Im temporarily out of topics

So u can pick it up from here

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Shid i need to pick up this melatonin and go to bed. I’m supposed to wake up early to pick up groceries

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Oh, gn then

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Ay it was nice talkin to you for a while🫡

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Same here

https://tenor.com/view/yelan-disappear-gif-25782881

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This is so annoying

This whole chapter is just full of this

And then I go to the comments and seeing people praise it up and down, they have to be bots

It’s like the author just wanted to use as many grand sounding words as possible

I literally can’t take it

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It’s pretty interesting but I probably wouldn’t write like that

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Nah

I i just could read it, it’s like

Idk

Maybe cheesy is the right word

Maybe cuz im comparing it to all the greats that I have read, but I just can’t

And like

The name

Nero Deathbinder

Yea, I am done

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Now that

I assumed names like that were a common thing in the medium

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Not at all

Not at all

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I just noticed sumin strange ash

If my nephew, wait nvm

Everything lines up correctly now

I just got a detail wrong

Thought we were living in a simulation for a moment

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No way the camera man didn’t know what they were doing this whole video

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I wanted to do

Fifty figures today

But my grand total right now is

https://tenor.com/view/zero-two-yes-anime-zero-two-anime-anime-girl-gif-2704573795378408610

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You still have time

Get at least 5

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I had to find my charger

And plug in my ipad

But I didn’t get the chance to say

I wanted to split it up half and half

With horses and humans

And I would do fifty a day, half half, with different animals and humans

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Are you talkin abt gestures or full blown figures?

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Err

Let meh show u

I got held up

Defusing a argument

Two pll were arguing over

Pg 13 artwork and whatnot

This kind of stuff

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O i see

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Maybe a bit more

Established than that though

But thats about it

Eventually

I wanna get to here

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25 of those a day is crazy

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What’s even crazier is jeff watts can do more than 25 in an hour

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inhuman bastard

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https://magma.com/d/6d0hr57hsk

If you’re down. My brother said he’ll join but idk when cuz he’s a loser🗿

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Oh yea

Im down

I was watchin youtube on my tv so I didn’t see the message

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this is not okay

Im sick and tired

Then someone just comes in and takes my phone

Does not slow down when I said wait

Just because I let you use it till you got your own stuff, does not mean it’s yours now

Some lines will have to be made clear later

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I’m not even mad tbh, it’s just that I has this open on it

Now ima look bad

And thats aggravating me

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This was also very literal

For some reason I am coughing a lot

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I’m literally dying

I got one figure in

Ima drop out now

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Damn💀 get well soon

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Yesterdays magma was terrible

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My internet

Might be off for awhile

It just popped off cuz of a storm or sum

Idk

It isn’t near me or anything but somehow still affecting my internet

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🫡

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Ima get back to doing daily stuff

Tmmrw

Tmmrw will be day 1

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Ik you wont get it, but this is such a huge moment, with a ton of symbolism

I just absolutely had to take a pic of it

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So

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I did not see this

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First one was me copying some faces someone did cuz I feel like I am terrible at making faces

This was the ref for it, it’s brawlhalla fanart btw

Second one is me starting off from imagination then taking some of kim jung gi’s drawings as inspiration

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Ima prob go to sleep now, tmmrw ill start doing figures

I just had to get back into the groove today

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Junasketches👌

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Yep

Just woke up from my nap as well

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No way your sleep schedule isn’t doomed rn

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Idk

I just ate a ton of food

And went to sleep

It may be done for now tho

Also, I been responding real late lately, get it

Anyway, it seems there is always sumin comin up, which hinders my response time, the thing im known for

It’s like that saying

“Too many good things get in the way”

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Gettin my life back together before the new year even starts. Just gotta go to bed before 12 to get the ball rolling

Been wakin up at 1pm which is NOT cool

Probably gonna start streaming more often

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I succeeded. Well kinda. Slept a little after 1

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My sleeping cycle is pretty ok rn

I did go to sleep around 2-3 last night

But i think that was just a one time thing

Ima make a list of of what I have to draw everyday, which will include hands, feet, heads, anatomy study, animals, full body figures, gestures and other such things I feel are important

It might seem like a lot at first, but I’m pretty sure I can do it, this will also hopefully push my knowledge enough for me to improve a lot as well

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https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

Steppin our game up

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I also

Wanna start doing stuff like kim jung gi

I was looking at this yesterday and this was my sole reference for

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The second one here

Ima try to take some things away from kim’s drawings without copying it

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His work is so 🤌 goes without saying obviously

I need to look at his sketchbooks I downloaded some time

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I don’t think I downloaded any

But i will soon

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Heck yeh

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I basically have a whole sketchbook of his in y photos tho

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I love being an art hoarder

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I also love to organize my stuff into folders

Of like individual artists

So I know exactly where to go for what

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I meant to reply to this many hours ago. I even took a screenshot of my folders to reply with and just didn’t send it🗿🗿

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Lol

It happens

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Have you drawn today?

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One hour class

Rushed robot

And im doing some cars rn, then hands and feet later

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The second and third pages look really good. Especially the one on the left on the second page

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Thx

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This guy is leaving me speechless

Don’t want to watch proko simply because it’s a youtube video

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well he needs to pinpoint what he wants to learn if YouTube will ever be a valuable source

That’s like saying the library is not a valuable source of knowledge. Nah bro you’re just not good at navigating the library and determining if a book is of quality or not

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I tried to explain this to them

They want to draw cartoons and don’t want to learn any anatomy

I told them that’s possible

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They also said they been drawing for two years

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And this is what’s

Giving them a difficult time

I don’t judge, but, yea, no

You been doing something other than drawing for two years

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I’d probably prioritize construction and abusing shapes language for pokemon type art

2 years is also nothing btw

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He should be studying this kind of thing. Probably animal anatomy as well since many pokemon are based off of animals. But since a pokemon can be anything, being able to construct any object and have it be believable should be a big goal

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Yea

I said that, but like

They want to learn no anatomy

So I sent them the proko basics course

Which is. Literally just putting shapes together

Then

“I dont wanna watch a youtube video”

It wasn’t even on youtube yo

Then

They were like

“Is there anybody else that can help me”

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“Then I’m not the person to ask for advice” cuz why am i gonna sit here and convince you dawg

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They didn’t text me back after that

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You’re probably not gonna find someone who’s going to coach you through your whole art journey on discord bro…

Like..go find some vids on drawing shapes in perspective then. Everything is a map from one source to another, whether it be forward or backward

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They were also dunking on the previous person that tried to help them, I thought they were being honest at first

But now I know

Im probably ganna be the next

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If you don’t like how others teach you

go find out how you like to learn

You gotta learn how to learn but ppl want you to give them all the answers but only in the specific way that they want but they don’t even have enough knowledge to communicate what they want

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I don’t think they are ganna realize that for awhile

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They’re like the girlfriend you ask “where do you wanna eat” and they say “mmm i dunnooooooo” and then you throw out suggestions and they say no to all of them😭😭

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You can’t beat that

Like a elden ring boss with infinite health, everyone will just go around it at some point

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I hate how people ship bam and yuri when their dynamic is clearly more like big sister younger brother type thing

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I just saw a thumbnail of two characters kissing

And they are literal brothers

I stay out of fandom

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The only time I would do sum similar to do is like in a hxh situation

When I ship gon and killua, but not like romantically

Basically, if either were ever in a actual relationship it would just get in the way

I felt like their dynamic was all they needed

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I fw platonic “soulmates”

I’m not really part of online fandom culture because shipping is such a huge part of it and that’s not how i engage w media

I just kinda follow whatever canon ships there are most of the time lol

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I mean, if it seems reasonable to me

Like, that’s clearly the only love interest to that character

Then yea

Like in yuru yuri, they all kinda had a thing going on

But there were clearly defined love interests

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Well harems n whatnot (that soumds like a harem idk) are a bit different

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Nah, they were all girls, and friends basically

Speaking of yuru yuri, after I watched all like three movies and four seasons, which each had like 20-24 episodes if I remember

I could never quite quench my thirst for something more like that

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Then what’s the yuri part

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There’s no actual yuri, they just play around with each other and like it’s basically slice of life, similar to nom nom, the catchphrase of the anime is literally

“Cute girls doing cute things”

Some of them

Clearly like each other tho

Like from episode 2 there was one girl clearly going after another one

It was not hidden at all, but it was also used more as a joke

I finally found another anime similar to it when I was on yt yesterday

And it seems to have two seasons at least

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Sounds like part of the goal is to bait ships

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It’s hard to describe, I would say ur right, but I wouldn’t say ur right

U would have to watch it

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I forgot what it was called tho, I took a pic, so ill prob just

Go thru my photos later

Also im pretty sure I told u ant yuru yuri before

It was probably a long time ago tho

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Yeah i think so

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Also

Its 12

That means my day 2 is done

I wanted to do the rest, but after I ate, I did not do anything more

This is most of it, I also did some simple car studies, but meh

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Eh I’d still say it’s a success

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Definitely for just getting back into it

I would say I did around 2 1/2 hours

Tomorrow im planning on doing a jeff watts figure study

Like one of his longer form figure drawings

Which look cool asf

This one in particular

This is higher res

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Should be interesting

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Definitely

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I drastically underestimated the difficulty of this

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Happy new years

This is all I did today

Really just me doing…..stuff

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Idk if you can see it just yet, but im tryna imitate kim jung gi hard ash

That was mostly, if not all from imagination

But like

I want that feeling that kim puts into everything he draws

He gives everything a environment, a story, an action

For 2025, my goals are that and

Doing more illustrations

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Mm that’s a solid goal. Although bittersweet, I’m glad he left such a goldmine of content to look at and study

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Im ngl, you just reminded he died

I literally forgot, idk if that was a good or bad thing

Maybe ill also lift my self imposed seal for a 24 hours

I been wondering how good the rookies in the server have gotten

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Dunno which ones in particular you mean

Haven’t been seriously lookin at most of the chats lately. I even chat in #general less than i did a few months ago

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I have only been in this chat

Since idk

For awhile, of course I have been in other servers

But in this server, this is the only chat I have been in

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Maybe I should join more art servers

Hmm

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Eh

Im in a few

Not a lot though

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Super small ones tend to be dead and super big ones are kinda hard to integrate into so idk

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Yea, im in a bigger small sized ones

Which is like, it’s cozy basically

Not dead, not super active, but people talk

I can also steal plls studies

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Ig joining servers related to my other interests that also happen to have art channels could be good

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I don’t have other interests

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Actually chances are I’m not gonna go join more servers. I need less discord in my life

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I’m actually not even on discord most of the time

Usually when u see the online green thing, it just means I left discord open and am doing something

I would say I spent 1-2 hours tops actively on discord a day

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Yeh it’s rare that I’m sitting there with most of my focus directly on discord. But tbf even if i cut down further, that wouldn’t automatically mean I’m being more productive

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Yea, productivity is also sumin I was wondering abt when drawing, I am cery aware I like

Kinda stall for awhile or take a ton of time searching stuff

I am getting better at that though

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I remember when I used to do actual studies, I’d be recording active drawing time rather than time spent at my desk w the intent to draw. So searching for materials n such wouldn’t be counted

But honestly preparing materials (usually the day before) by bookmarking cut that time down anyway

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I don’t even time how long I draw anymore

Im done when I feel like it now

Simply because I know ima draw for hours anyway

So there’s no real reason for me to time how long I draw anymore, since I used to do that to

Draw longer

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O i see

It is abt quality over quantity at the end of the day so that feeling of “I’ve done enough today” is a better thing to go by than time in many cases

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I was in art showcase and I really liked this drawing

When I looked at it tho, I thought she was holding sum else for a second

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These hand bones have killed me

For the last few hours I have been tryna do them, and only now am I achieving some success

I probably should have been drawing bigger as well

https://youtube.com/shorts/bm68mdGAfEI?si=6jRiNQ2iniXTOC41

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https://tenor.com/view/repent-ace-attorney-miles-edgeworth-edgeworth-gif-10720743075251112877

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Ima spend the next few hours doing horse studies

Like the anatomy and stuff

Then ill double back and do hands and feet

And if im still up for it, ill do some figure drawing after

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Alr

Im sealed back here again

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I deleted this mobile game I invested around one whole year in

It took a decent amount of time from me, around 2 hours a day

But more than that, I usually played it in the mornings, which meant that

It took my morning time from me

Now that it’s 2025, I really wanna focus up on art, and start drawing in the morning

So I had to sacrifice it

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Real for that

Had to let go of Cookie Run Kingdom once it got so far i was planning parts of my day around it (and the meta changed too much for me to keep with without paying)

I didn’t spend a single cent yet i was still in the gacha trap. Scary genre

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Fr, same for the game I was playing, you may have heard of it

It was called Overmortal

Cultivation mmorpg

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Never heard of it lol

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People there spent like 10-50k every few months

And from the discord there, I heard someone literally went homeless playing

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But those games are designed to have you spend as much time as possible grinding or spending. The more time you’re spending, the more likely you are to develop fomo and spend money

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The whales💀

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Overmortal was a bit different in that regard, that was definitely it at the start, but around a week or two into the game, it kinda lets off

Of course, if your f2p you will never be at the top

But it’s still f2p friendly somewhat, you will never get left too far behind, unless you are in a server with a medium-ish spender

Which is rare now, cuz the game has been out for awhile

There are literally hundreds and hundreds of servers, and many don’t even get filled up anymore

So there is really hope to stay relevant for a f2p player, espionage since the game is also strategy oriented a bit

I was in top 10 on a new server I joined for a long while before I wuit

Quit*

Just because I knew how to play and think, and this was me competing against all spenders

But let me stop mouthing off

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You play marvel rivals?

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My bad i went to make noodles

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Np, i was jus rambling

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I was going to but it called me poor, punched me in my face, and told me to never look in its direction again(it’s only on pc and new gen consoles)

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Also I actually fw games where there’s more skill involved along w the more predatory pay to win tactics. Lotta gacha games are not reallyyy skilled based from what i know (CRK was definitely not)

[vale meadow]

Dam, I didn’t even know

[green horizon]

Made me sad lol

Ik the ps4 is considered old now but damn

[vale meadow]

I remember tryna get that mmo game but I had a ps4

And I was lik dam, it’s not even that bad

I know u can make it for ps4 too

[green horizon]

💯😭

Perfectly capable but nah they wanna call me a bitch and tell me to get my money up

[vale meadow]

Alr, tbh I aint even draw today

Ima start now tho

Really I’m just preparing to get hyper focused on drawing horses and doing figure drawing

Those are the things ima be focusing on a ton, I’m just relaxing my mind beforehand though

[green horizon]

Might stream in a couple minutes. Didn’t draw yesterday

[vale meadow]

I lied too

I aint finna draw rn

I can already feel it

Ill prob watch that horse drawing video by arron blaize and look at some figure contrction from jeff watts and proko etc

But thats all ima do today most likely

[green horizon]

😭

I respect the self awareness

[vale meadow]

Idk abt you, but i see something very much different from normal

[green horizon]

Yassified the fellow

Now he’s a pretty merman

[vale meadow]

I was talkin abt this

My guy has a whole bakery

[green horizon]

💀i did not notice that

[vale meadow]

I hate when I have trash teammates in any game

It’s annoying

[static matrix]

Eyy @vale meadow, you just advanced to level 59!

[vale meadow]

We are getting close to the ultimate life sim game

With the improvements in ai, and better more refined games, I say give it ten years

Ten years or less

And the ultimate sim game will come out

And I am scared to imagine what games r ganna be lik in 50 years

Hopefully in those 50 years i get a pc so i can play them

[green horizon]

ppl are going to be having full second lives in games bruh

More than they already do

[vale meadow]

I think I already talked abt it before, but they are making an actual nerve gear

[green horizon]

[vale meadow]

I been doing some iterative drawing

The first one

It is working I would say, im just drawing the same thing basically

And I’m doing little observations and stuff of smaller parts in between

The horse stuff was just me doing arron bliaze video

[green horizon]

🔥

[vale meadow]

It was also definitely a good thing to delete all those mobile games I was playing

Though it hurt a lot

I am definitely more focused

[green horizon]

Hell yeh

[vale meadow]

What was

That app

Wait nvm

I think I know the youtube video

Nvm

Can’t find it

You know that website, were you could like out everything into folders

And organize stuff etc

It also let you make graphs and timelines and stuff

[green horizon]

Mm there’s one called Notion that I believe does all that

Idk what specific one you’re talking abt but lmk id you find out and it’s free

[vale meadow]

Yea, the one im talkin abt is free

[green horizon]

Yeah notion isn’t. I had to pay for that one

Back when i was studying Japanese

[vale meadow]

Guess ima have to hunt down whatever it is later

Cuz I know I was talking abt it here bfor, so with some keywords and a lot of time

Eventually it will come up

[green horizon]

have fun hunting

[vale meadow]

Im makin sum from my imagination supplemented by a few reference images, mostly for the pelvis cuz I forgot how it looked

It’s fun but pretty draining, idk if thats because its 2 am at night or not tho

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xmixyUTAk4Y?si=cBv-Z8X0pL83M8_S

I dont even watch blue lock

But this is funny ash

[green horizon]

AHAHA my brother was getting agitated showing me that

He was like “I don’t even use this word a lot, but Blue Lock is CRINGE”

U know that image of the black guy with his tongue out and it says zamn next to him? That scene made me think of that😭

[vale meadow]

Nah

I uhn no what u imagine that is

[green horizon]

This was back when ppl were making a certain typa content and this guy thought it was a good idea to have this be the thumbnail on a video titled “ZAMN! SHE’S 12!??” 💀💀

[vale meadow]

Ohhhh

I remember now

[vale meadow]

I recorded my process in these pics basically

I think my lack of understanding of shading is also big here

[green horizon]

Thas hard asf tho. I see the vision

I can see a really cool inking style somewhere in there

[vale meadow]

Thx

That was basically my first time usin that tool to actually draw

But I really like it

[green horizon]

Interested in seeing future attempts👍

[vale meadow]

I love the mechanical things and stuff

It always look so cool

I noticed the guy was blending in with the background planet

So I did a bit more

[vale meadow]

This was the finish

[green horizon]

🔥🔥🔥

Off to a good start this year

[vale meadow]

Who pinged in art chat?

[green horizon]

Someone pinged mentors

[vale meadow]

I basically put some water on it and rubbed it across

But I really like how that makes the brush pen look, it’s kinda like how kim smudged his ink

[green horizon]

always thought it was cool how he did that

[vale meadow]

In one of his videos, peter han said he didn’t like the look of it, but still liked how kim did it

[vale meadow]

Milanote

[vale meadow]

Milanote is what it’s called

[green horizon]

Sounds familiar

[vale meadow]

I’m pretty sure u used it as well

[green horizon]

Lookin rn. I’ve never used this, but it’s really neat and customizable

resource✍️

[vale meadow]

The fact that u can make a subgroup, name it, and go into it to do everything u can on the main page

Is a super big plus

N its free

[green horizon]

💯and the templates are really nice too. I’m looking at the ones geared towards writers

Gonna bookmark this site (then forget to use it for months)

[vale meadow]

The only reason I wanted to

Find this again was because I wanted to put a lot of photos close to eachother

So I could have some refs when drawing

I find that having only one ref makes it so ur drawing basically just that ref, but if u have a lot, or even 2

You start to kinda do you own thing

[green horizon]

True. Whenever i see pros using refs on a painting, it’s at least 3

But more interesting than that is how I can immediately tell what the purpose pf each reference is. One for lighting, another for the subject matter, another for color palette, etc etc.

[vale meadow]

One day I hope I can make people reference my art cuz it’s that good

[green horizon]

💯💯💯real

Gotta accomplish my goal of finishing illustrations if that’ll ever happen though so

https://tenor.com/view/pen-in-flames-umineko-writing-in-flames-flames-gif-20892510

[vale meadow]

Speaking of, give me sum to make

Like a specific prompt

Or general

[green horizon]

Someone cooking a meal

Also happens to be what I’m workin on rn heh

[vale meadow]

Ill try to do sum cool, first off I’ll reference my own kitchen as well, I find that referencing at least one thing from real life in a drawing

Is very helpful

[green horizon]

For sure🔥

I’ll try to show my progress before the day is over

[vale meadow]

Oh yea

I started drawabox thing

Again

I didn’t make it far some years ago

Ill prob try to complete it this time tho

[green horizon]

Oo lmk if you notice any improvements from doing that

[vale meadow]

The only thing I noticed was that my wrist did not like the position I held the pen in

But maybe in a week or so and after ai get a bit further

[vale meadow]

Rc help, i been tripping over this for the last few hours

[vale meadow]

This thing has to be wrong or sum

[green horizon]

I vaguely remember proko mentioning in a vid that one of the heads looks longer but isn referred to like it is

[vale meadow]

I watched the triceps video again as well

Even tho I pretty much remember most of the anatomy

I just have a problem with the overlap there

[green horizon]

Oh. I’d probably just find a different anatomy chart then

[vale meadow]

What is that?

Wait

Hold on, I think I get it

No

It still doesn’t make sense

Now im stuck on this cuz I know I’m not even ganna be able to draw until I can say if this is actually right or not

[green horizon]

Find a different chart and compare. And remember that all of this gets wrapped in skin at the end of the day. Not to say it doesn’t matter but yeah

[vale meadow]

I think I focus a bit more on anatomy than actually needed

Actually a lot more

Maybe it’s jeff watt’s influence

[vale meadow]

But I feel like I need to

[vale meadow]

The medial head is squashed between the long head and the lateral head, and it pokes out a bit at the end, and they are all connected to the tricep tendon, which connects to the olecranon

So what is that at the medial epicondyle?

The acromion?

But it’s not labeled

And it isn’t giving me that feeling

[green horizon]

Well it’s still the medial head. It’s just that I can’t tell if the shading is indicating the muscle kinda overlapping itself to attach or if they just decided to put a little shadow right there

[vale meadow]

Bad diagram I suppose

It may not necessarily be wrong

But the way it’s made makes me confused when I look at it

[green horizon]

some others

The one with skin sorta does have an overlap in that area🤔

[vale meadow]

I also did not mean to say this

[vale meadow]

Yea, the long head has a little split

I was also thinking if

That diagram was trying to show that

But that also made no sense

[green horizon]

Eh idk. Shouldn’t prohibit you from accurately portraying the form at least

Also forgot to show progress yesterday…cuz there wasn’t much progress yesterday

I’m gonna have to dedicate a lotta time to figuring out some my shitty sketch logistics. Maybe ill do a second clearer one on top once i add bg elements

[vale meadow]

I was also,planning to start today

Before I got sidetracked with this

[green horizon]

How long were you caught up w that??

[vale meadow]

I was still caught up with it

Till this moment

But I figured it out

It was just that the diagram

Was low poly

Basically that was a joke

But basically

It grouped everything together with no clear distinction

And made it look like one or two big muscles

It isn’t wrong per se, just undefined I guess you could say

[vale meadow]

Counting the time, it should be at least around 3 hours

[green horizon]

💀

[vale meadow]

I was going back through the proko figure drawing thing cuz I was doing more and more figure drawing

Then once the manequinization thing came up

I was like, “I should have been doin that”

So I instantly got on it, found some five min I did, and made some boxes and stuff on it

Now it looks much much better, and it literally only took like one minute to do that

[green horizon]

Yessir we abuse construction techniques over here

[vale meadow]

And I’m finally realizing after all these years, this is basic what mikeymegamega was talking abt doing in most of his how to draw tutorials

[green horizon]

Ngl i have not been drawing like i should

I should start some kind of challenge or routine hm

[vale meadow]

Fr, im

Doing more and more figure drawing

[green horizon]

Guess that’s my task for today: type up something to do

til the end of January maybe

[vale meadow]

Rn im doing drawabox, proko, spacesuit/mech, and figure drawing

Last night I found out that creating mechs is actually stupidly hard, not the simple ones

Like,

This kinda stuff

I watched a mech drawing video which talked abt the pivots on mechs being like joints, and the uhh, pistons and stuff etc

The thing that stood out most to me though is

When I tried connecting the shapes

Let me see if I can find that page

[green horizon]

Oh absolutely

[vale meadow]

I realized halfway through, when peterhan was always sayin he taught how to make shapes go through shapes and atuff

It was incredibly useful for stuff like that

[green horizon]

moderndayjames has a good video on this. Cutting and pulling shapes n whatnot

Pretty sure he also has a vid on mech joints

[vale meadow]

Yea, I watched it

[vale meadow]

I haven’t seen this one though

Ill prob check it out later

I went on ahead and took a pic of these drawabox exercises as well, I don’t really wanna show these since it’s like grunt work

But ill probably compile all of them together

Since a before and after drawabox thing is pretty popular

[green horizon]

true lol

[vale meadow]

I also do literally everything freehand, like

If I had a ruler

I would use it

But I don’t

[green horizon]

I mean, you could use the edge of a book or another piece of paper or something. Well actually

Do they recommend a ruler? I would imagine they’d prefer freehand but idrk how drawabox works

[vale meadow]

Yea, they do, but it’s more to like, make a straight line first, then copy it, or drawing a straight line from a point to another point and copying it etc, so I dont really think

I need a ruler tbh

Cuz I can make a straight line

I think

Also, I this has made me realize that I like drawing from right to left,

Because when I’m connecting two points and my big ah hand gets in the way

I meed to draw from right to left

Idk how people do it, but I feel like it’s a lot harder connecting two points when you can’t see one

Like, I did it like that for a bit, since I’m better going from left to right

So my line is pretty straight that way, but I just don’t like not seeing the point

But let me stop yapping

[green horizon]

Lol but yeah i remember asking a whiiiile back in this server and they said it’s best to look at the point you’re tryna reach. So idk how people do it any other way

Basically guesswork at that point

Also revised my vision board yesterday

This time w notes

And I’m keeping colored works separate from sketches n line work now for clarity’s sake

[vale meadow]

I definitely see how it all fits together

[green horizon]

looking at past iterations, I’m seeing how it gets more cohesive each time

[vale meadow]

I’m also tryna focus on like what I’m bad at rn as well

And it’s actually pretty specific

Drawing a good looking head on a figure

Or rather,

A realistic head

I can make a realistic body, but not a realistic head on that body

So im also focusing on that

[green horizon]

Mm idk what it is about drawing realistic faces but capturing the likeness of the model is so hard

Even if the drawing/painting itself is fine, it’s those super subtle things that make it look really different from the ref

[vale meadow]

Yea

That is basically what I meant

But just drawing realistic heads in general is sum I need to get better at

[green horizon]

Mm you gonna practice that today?

[vale meadow]

Yea, or tmmrw maybe, doing drawabox, proko, and studying mechs/spacesuits are my main goals rn

So if I have energy for it after that

[vale meadow]

Revive

https://tenor.com/view/eat-loli-anime-girl-mikakunin-gif-21353237

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/DjnySxFHAfk?si=Ign4M8zlFmS89o6M

At first I was like wtf is this consume these guys wearin

Then I had to look closer and was like hol on

This some actual bikini armor shi

[green horizon]

There was a freak on the uniform design team

I did not end up making that plan I mentioned yesterday

Was realized I didn’t while i was applying for jobs n opened up google docs in my ipad

It kept messing up and i was getting irritated so i gave up

[vale meadow]

Today I was watching a proko vid

And he was like, “and this was only two years out of my ten years at the watts atelier, nothing much”

And I basically was just done at that moment

[green horizon]

[vale meadow]

Tf I been doing this whole time

But eventually Ill get up to and surpass that level

[green horizon]

I wonder if he had just been drawing on his own before that

Or if he was just under some other pro’s guidance

[vale meadow]

I dont think so, I remember him saying he had a whole az animation teacher in highschool

Probably before watts

[green horizon]

Oh i see

I’ve never pictured him as someone who was even mostly self taught. Not that someone couldn’t achieve his skill on their own but yk

[vale meadow]

I don’t really think about it that much tbh, too worried about being az at the moment

[green horizon]

Plenty of time to level up

[vale meadow]

I’m giving myself one year deadline to really level up

I’m really finna be drawing all day and night

[green horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/pen-in-flames-umineko-writing-in-flames-flames-gif-20892510

But what does success in that regard look like? Jeff watts himself would be too high a bar so

[vale meadow]

Yea lol

[vale meadow]

I don’t expect to get like jeff watts, but at least somewhere similar to proko in his first years of being a student

A good understanding of the anatomy, able to divide the light and dark

Good control of the pencil,

And decent shading, as in, I can make a body look 3d

[green horizon]

Ah i see

Measurable enough. Realistic enough too

[vale meadow]

I was in a random server I pressed and saw someone asking for critique

Their shading, and upper body looked pretty good, but the leg connection was something out of an eldritch book

So I thought, easy enough critique

Then I looked to see what server I was in

Then realized there were a ton of other better artists than me in that server

So I ended up not critiquing

[green horizon]

😭

[vale meadow]

Idk what it is abt it, but when im in a server thats decently big, with a ton of artists way better than me

I do not like to critique

[green horizon]

Ig that’s understandable

[vale meadow]

Imagine someone coming and saying, “yea, you have no clue whatever the hell it is your talking about” and I can’t even refute cuz they 10x better than me

[green horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/tigger-sad-gif-27040267

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/EbopgQOUyLo?si=lB9tcxwHqHxFZwtX

Realistically

Yo mom aint gon tell you that shi

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/wjHXJlDBX2s?si=Pef4VWTnh7B0NNB-

The end to this was funny asf

I disagreed with everything he said till I heard the last part

[green horizon]

I look down on anyone who watched ts

[vale meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/holly-knn-gif-25677840

Im ngl, it was a funny and wholesome anime tbh

[green horizon]

I shoulda remembered who I’m talkin to before i said that

🗿

[vale meadow]

Of my tower of god

This line was built up and executed so perfectly

It even caused a ripple in my heart

[green horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-monkey-d-luffy-thinking-think-interesting-gif-20107311

[green horizon]

Ay what’s goin on w your discord status thing??

[vale meadow]

Oh

I forgot I changed it

[vale meadow]

I’m totally fine btw

I was just thinking like

I really just want to stop

But I can’t, there is something inside of me that just keeps picking me back up, it does not let me end, like, I’m saying this literally, it’s like a stabilizer of something

But it’s like torture, because even when I want to stop, it does not let me

And last night I had a mental breakdown because it literally felt like torture, for around two hours I was just in the dark on my floor, standing up, on my knees, pacing around etc

I can’t really describe it, but that whole time felt like real torture

I’m fine now tho, I changed my status before I went to sleep I’m pretty sure

And no, I didn’t cry, maybe there were a few tears, I haven’t shed tears in awhile

But I didn’t cry

[green horizon]

If you feel better i suppose that’s fine

But I can’t really say I understand what you’re getting at

[vale meadow]

I just accepted I will forever be the hardest motherducker ever

Always eternally

[green horizon]

So be it

[vale meadow]

No way, someone was saying thanks to me and someone else was like “haha, yea np”

I now totally know how people feel when I do that, so it makes me wanna do it even more

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/l5hA75x55HM?si=xkgnBlpY9LX4RPVS

He instantly got shot down

[green horizon]

I hate those videos😭

[vale meadow]

It wasn’t even an actual short

It was more like those ads

You get when you watch shorts

Not even more like

It was an ad

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JDT2edMQB04?si=0A0xtkxRQJCOIZyf

An actually very good anatomy showcase video

[green horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-monkey-d-luffy-thinking-think-interesting-gif-20107311

Let him cook

[green horizon]

Have you been drawing consistently? I haven’t been drswing almost at all lately and idk why

[vale meadow]

Lol, I haven’t drawn at all in the past few days, i been tryna catch up on work

Maybe im affecting you

[green horizon]

Stop doing that

I need to draw

[vale meadow]

We can hop in magma later

Im almost done catching up

[green horizon]

Hell yeah

[static matrix]

Eyy @green horizon, you just advanced to level 81!

[vale meadow]

81

I wonder what my level is

I forgot

Probably not too high tho, I don’t talk much

Koya level

!level

Err

/level

https://tenor.com/view/not-me-anime-not-me-gif-13394058

[green horizon]

!rank

Hmm

[vale meadow]

/rank

Koya rank

[mystic comet]

godkinghuru, you did not start your adventure! Use the ^^adventure create command to start.

[vale meadow]

I uhh—-

Alright

^^adventure create

[mystic comet]

Luffy: @vale meadow, Your adventure is starting! You are a giant battle master!

By the way, this adventure was created and developed for the One Piece [FR] Discord server, so don't hesitate to tell us what you think about this or play with us!
▶ https://discord.gg/onepiecefr

Wondering how to play? Our Official Wiki is here to help!
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Join Koya's server here!
▶ https://discord.gg/koya

[vale meadow]

Idk

What this is

[green horizon]

You down for magma in 10?

[vale meadow]

Currently im tryna do sum

But like

It’s not working out at all

So ill prob be down

[green horizon]

What’s it supposed to be?

[vale meadow]

For magma

[vale meadow]

Ill tell you once I get it good enough for you to realize what it is without me telling you

[green horizon]

💀

[green horizon]

https://magma.com/d/k7KDcd5KnF

[vale meadow]

Im getting

Really

Really

Annoyed

I just keep failing

So ima stay at this for a bit

But ill hop in magma for sure

[green horizon]

Are you using a ref?

[vale meadow]

My bad

I had my ipad far away

Yea, technically I was

I was drawing my kitchen, I never forgot that I said I would draw a cooking thing

I just never really did cuz I was doin other stuff

It looks a lot better after I got looser though

[vale meadow]

U still in magma tho?

I can hop in now

[green horizon]

Yeah

[green horizon]

https://magma.com/d/rzbjv70uac just dropping this to include ya not expecting participation

[vale meadow]

I totally would have joined this one

I was sleep tho

I was just so tired today doing algebra

Like

Not saying algebra made me tired

More so that I was just tired all day

Doing algebra made me even more tired though

But generally, I’ll always try to join in on magma if I know it’s goin on

[green horizon]

Still in there if you want to

[vale meadow]

Yea, ill hop in

[vale meadow]

Did u change ur pfp?

[green horizon]

Yeah. Sakura Oogami from Danganronpa

She’s the greatest

[vale meadow]

I thought that was a dude for a second

But now that u saw it’s a woman

I can see it

[vale meadow]

It’s insane cuz this looks a lot like a character from tog that basically just got introduced

In the chapters im reading

She is also cool asf

And uses fire

In fact, her name is evakhell or sum like that and she is known for “raising hell”

[green horizon]

This her?

[vale meadow]

Thats her compressed form, but yea

Her real form is super muscular

But that’s basically spoiler

Cuz that info doesn’t get dropped until a bit later

[green horizon]

Automatically like her a little morr

I love a good buff woman🙏

https://tenor.com/view/muscle-girl-anime-gif-5850839913084154178

[vale meadow]

The tog art is also cool as fug

[green horizon]

It looks nice

[vale meadow]

This is one of the tamer frames, but I like this a lot cuz of the cat

Spoiler tho, that dude on top is evil asf

Like downbad type evil

[green horizon]

Lol

Definitely looks like one of the cleaner webcomics I’ve seen

[vale meadow]

I usually save some of the frames like this to study

But these are the tamer ones

Like, I need to get one thats really cool ash

[green horizon]

I had to stop saving so many manga/webtoon panels

But they’re so nice

[vale meadow]

Yea, I also cut down on saving stuff