Inktober Day #9

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Yeah

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Suddenly I remembered I had the power of tracing

Now everything has become a little bit easier

Also, now I have instantly seen the problem

Before, I was kinda taking a few hints from how TenTen had drew a few of the reference ribcages, then I started to do some on my own

But

Somehow, her ribcages look like they have huge tops, but when I traced it, it was actually like twice as small as it looked

Idk how that has happened, but I instantly knew that was the problem, cuz I was also feeling like my ribcages were too fat

So basically, I wasted around two hours, then remembered I could trace, then successfully found the problem

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It be like that

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I totally have not mastered this

But ima just move on, though I could practice this all day,

I don’t think it’s particularly important to master it right now, just being half decent at it is enough

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I been watching drawing videos for awhile

Idk if that counts tho

I just realized I should have made sure that that counts

It was more me just getting distracted and I just started watching a lot of art videos

But then I realized, that could count

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Though if it doesn’t, I don’t mind adding that time back

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We’ll count it for today, but from here on out, let’s make it a requirement that videos need to be followed by application of whatever the vid was about

Easy to half-pay attention to tutorial content

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Sounds good

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TenTen is very big on “spacial perception”

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Im ngl, ill probably only do around 40 min of exercise and not 1 hr

Nevermind

Ill do 1hr

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I said this not because I am worried abt the difficulty, that’s no problem, im just worried abt the time

I just finished drawing, so if I soend an hour doing this, then that’s ganna be basically when I go to sleep, but I still got things to do after

But its not like I can’t just stay up

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20 min in, can I bribe you with magma?

Im nit partially pumped for this rn, yes, im still doing it even as im typing

But im kinda just listlessly going right now,

I guess I can add some weights

I just grabbed like 30 pounds

Had to put that back down real quick

Doing this while typing is actually a great way to

Pass the time

Now I remember why I always did cardio in the mornings

This is probably just ganna be me talkingto myself to get through this

I’m doing a body project video rn

I do like watching them for their cardio vids

Especially the all standing ones like im doing rn

I don’t feel like getting down and dirty at night time, unless im doing pushups or sum

It also allows me to type a ton cuz a lot of it is leg and torso movements

But it’s also a good bit of arm movement like just now

Sometimes I do watch other cardio vids, like uhh tabitha or whatever it is

But thats just because I already did so many of the body project ones

They are very repeatable, and also of the highest quality

Except for when they do the little uhh punch things, i feel like they are just kinda wobbling their arms, which when I think about it is kinda what they are doing

They soed up a bit there so I had to stop typing again

Talking to myself is a really effective way to pass time, well, I already do that, but I never thought it would be effective for workouts too

This is one of the most mind numbing cardio sessions I have ever had

Probably because I’m not doing it re

Oww

Those pulses at the end killed my legs

That was about the only hard thing so far

And seeing as im on the cooldown now,

This is basically the end of the video

I can’t believe I just talked to myself for fifty minutes

Well, I can believe that, I do it all day

But I can’t believe I just talked to myself to get through a workout

Ima go take a bath now

[vale meadow]

It’s been a long day

https://tenor.com/view/drink-gif-25664210

That’s not beer, but good enough

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https://tenor.com/view/smoke-gif-26330010

Good work

My bad on the ghosting. I was playin Persona 5. New character joined my team n i was whisper shouting and pointing n whatnot

It was hype

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Idk what this means, but if it was hype then

🔥

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I woke up really late today

But zi also think I will finish all my work today

So lets grt going

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whisper shouting is so real

trying to be quiet but so so excited

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you get it

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i was like it when i got my first apex heirloom at 2 in the morning

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Sitting while wondering about sadness
I stare absent from my mind in this space
This fog that clouds my thoughts begone from me
From this dark prison I wish to begone

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i was on call with my friend and was like “ohmygodigotanheirloom” and he didn’t believe me because i was being so chill

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Eh, I just felt like writing a poem, it’s in iambic pentameter as well

Or at least I think it is, I didn’t check, but I’m pretty sure I did it right

It’s a very interesting process writing a poem, ill try to do some actual poems sometime, that aren’t just four lines

But more around a dew stanzas

Ima start my five hour drawing timer now

Today ima actually be drawing bodies, so I should have more to show

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[vale meadow]

Sunshine, something I cannot fathom
Why is it so?
Dark and decrepit conjure around
Why is it so?
Pain and suffering is all I feel
Why is it so?
Anger! clouds thy mind, let me speak!
Why is it so…

This one is in blank verse, basically following a specific meter, but not rhyming

I like going heavy on the emotional aspect if u didn’t realize already

Alright, let me get to drawing now

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style inspo board

Lot to learn if im gonna get here

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Hows it going

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I didn’t see this

It’s not at all going good rn

But hopefully that will change in the next

3 hours

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O-

Gl🍀

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An hour later, I have realized

I am just genuinely not improving

It’s like im hard stuck silver in brawlhalla

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I finally got it

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I was slightly referencing this spartan solider thing

To just do something

Then I realized as I was lazily adding shadows

I have been drawing lines all this time

Or yea, that’s what art is

but

I’m not supposed to be thinking I’m drawing lines

Because what im actually depicting is 3d forms

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I think of shadows more as planes or shapes and that makes it easier

But personally i prefer to start with the darkest tones n then add in the midtones and light

It’s crazy how changing your thinking a little influences the outcome of your work

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Yea, I usually would never try shading much, even if im just having fun or for practice

But doing it now helped me come to that realization

Meaning, I should probably do it more

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The next two hours should go better

It’s also crazy how I still have two hours to go

Five hours really does not fly by

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This reminds me of the old days

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💀

Let’s not go back

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I realized when I went to take a pic of my drawing cuz I was having fun with it that I was in my room in the dark hunched over

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https://tenor.com/view/computer-nerds-geeky-coding-hack-gif-14794084

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I got so tired of messing up and barely having an easer to erase

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How are you feelin abt this whole day’s session?

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Terrible

But i got 18 minutes and 40 seconds to change that

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https://tenor.com/view/sqds-gif-26295658

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Got some digital in for the last ten min

The general experience with digital art is a lot easier, so it was pretty nice

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All I did here was just draw from imagination how I think gen alpha will look like in a few years

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Not a bad finish, I’d say

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Im dead

No, I’m died

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So what do you think tomorrow’s lookin like? Any edits to the routine?

A list of things to do, anything

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Just figure drawing

A ton of figure drawing

That’s it

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Ah ok

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Other than that, also,probably follow the TenTen artbook

Like usual

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Sounds like a plan

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A very bad one, but one nonetheless

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Welp it’s Persona 5 time for me. Might draw something as well. I’ll show if i do

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Tbh, I forgot what persona 5 is

But for some reason the title reminds me of oayday

Pdayday*

Payday*

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https://tenor.com/view/joker-persona-5-gif-7156099863849143410

It’s very stylish

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Yea,

It kinda

Reminds me

Well, that specific gif reminds me of eminence in the shadows

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Idk what that is lol

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I always feel like as more time passes, time starts to move slower

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How’s the figure drawing?

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Lol

Im still on schoolwork

Ima almost finished tho

I just got like two more exams to do

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Ahh ok

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@vale meadow

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My bad

I didn’t see this at all as I was too engrossed in a video

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https://youtu.be/xexk-goFBGo?si=Acug_d1xgtRImuQP

Just a lot of really good tips and a lot of master artists I can add to the collection

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Oo nice

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Keep this rule in mind though

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Yea, I did remember

Im currently drawing now

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Ow

My feet are cramping really bad

Cuz I was sitting on them

And zi just tot up

It doesn’t hurt per se

But its unbearable at the same time

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Real

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I also think I’m starting to understand faces a lot better after watching some of that video

Though this doesn’t look that good cuz I still can’t shade,

I feel like I get the three dimensionality of the face a lot better

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Very nice nose

And the wrinkles look pretty good too

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This was the ref, it’s from Leonardo da Vinci

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😮

Sheesh

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When comparing them

You now see how mine looks very funny

And not in the laughing way

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The angle is a bit different

As well as the width of the front and side planes

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This is the entire page so far

I tried not to copy anything too closely

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Those legs look nice

What do things look like when you do try to copy closely?

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Exactly like the ref

Or rather, if the ref isn’t too complicated

Then it’s basically just me copying it down on to my paper

I find that I don’t learn much with that

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Like I took this for ref in the middle left

This is literally how they left it

So I just kinda tried to take the pose and do sum with it

(Without the hand in the way)

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Ah i see

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My ipad went dead bfor

I could say

Though it dosent deviate too far from the ref, I’m tryna get to that point

Usually I would just try to copy the ref, and leave it there

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https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-monkey-d-luffy-thinking-think-interesting-gif-20107311

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I think im starting to get how to shade in a really basic way

Its just shape, light, core shadow, shadow

Im not tryna be fancy and do reflected light and stuff cuz one, I would,probably fail horribly, and two, I don’t think I wanna be doing that rn anyway

Im pretty sure I learned the uhh fade technique from one of the old masters, I can’t remember who it was, I wanna say micheal hamption, but it’s probably not him

I can say for sure it was pj style tho

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How today ended

Full disclosure, I spent around 30min being distracted by roblox

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How you feelin abt today as a whole? We’ll continue doing the summary/review til the end

Might as well

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Pretty decent

I just feel like I haven’t learned much

Too much copying and not enough learning

I also need to relearn some anatomy

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With that in mind

Plan for tomorrow?

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Watching some proko vids to relearn some arm anatomy

I still know the general gist of things, but the specific stuff has become kinda blurry

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I feel that

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My ipad always going dead when I wanna ask sum

Anyway, wut have u been drawing these past days?

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Mostly improving on drawing faces. They’re my main weakness, but I’m starting to feel like I’m overcoming that

Unknown gave me a csp subscription, so I’ve been testing that out and establishing a setup

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I like the chibi looking one

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Thanks haha

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I have like gotten, or rather could have gotten like three more free skillshare monthly trials

But I didn’t cuz skillshare was honestly just underwhelming

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Yeah I remember you talkin about it

Everyone I’ve heard who reviewed it and wasn’t sponsored makes it sound pretty unnecessary when things like youtube exist

I do get the hype around clip studio though. Great customization options for the interface and a huuuuge library of brushes, fx, materials, etc etc to use

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Hope it’s workin well for u

I would 100% waste a cps subscription as I am now

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You feel like drawing in magma?

Feels like it’s been a minute

Even tho im sure it hasn’t-

https://magma.com/d/8tzyrok8u2

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My b, didn’t see this

U still in there?

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Yeah

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Alr, ill hop in then, and yea, it does feel like it has been a min

But it’s prob been like a few days

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Soooo

Long story short

My head hurt so much it threw me into self reflection

I realized I am acting like a pathetic failure compared to my previous self

So I got to get my act together

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I didn’t really do anything much today, so idk the penalty for missing today

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Procrastinator Huruu

But

10h work day plus an hour of exercise plus an excellent sleep schedule is not something necessary for success

Nor consistency

Which was my beginning stance

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Not necessary, but I do love hard work

I really could have continued today, its just

I really had a staggering headache

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Do you feel better now?

[vale meadow]

Yea

I slept it off

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Nice nice

[vale meadow]

Does this mean I lose

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Yeah

But

Not a big deal is it

[vale meadow]

Not really, but zi would say this challenge really helped me kickstart myself again

I got things back in order I would say

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Maybe you can lessen the severity and then continue forward with that👍

Hell, 2 hours of drawing a day is more than enough. I’m not confident the ROI is that much higher by going 5 whole hours

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I would say just two hours of schoolwork and two hours of art required for a day is the sweet-spot, two hours really passes quickly

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Yeah👍

[vale meadow]

Yea, I would say after like three hours, studying more for the day would become pointless

Cuz basically, ur brain needs time to consume that information you have learned

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Yeah

Like food needs time to digest before you shove more down

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Just drawing for long periods of time in general though, I would say it keeps you warmed up

I should also

Draw more hands

And feet

I realized I haven’t really drawn them in a long long while

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So easy to neglect haha

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hum i dont know how to using first the shading on krita soft shading and idk how to using vector lines to drawing my lines thats it^^

yep how do i soft shade? and how do am i using the vector tool to moving my line yep

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This person needs help with whatever a vector tool is or sum in krota

Idk all that new digital doohickey tech stuff

So I came to aak the expert

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All of my work is raster not vector. Refer them to YouTube tutorials haha

I only vaguely remember vector tools being tedious in a class i took 2 years ago

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Idk what this means, but ill go tell them that

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Is it just me, or has marc brunets art program been on sale for years?

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The get it while it lasts sales tactic

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I been sleeping all day, cuz when I was abt to start drawing, I was thinking of how to do fanart

And it wasn’t working, so I stopped and started to think about it

Which lead to me laying in my bed for awhile, which lead to me sleeping

But after watching glenn vippu draw and thinking about it a bit more

I think got it, or at least the general idea

So ima go try it out

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I think I’m starting o get it more

I know I say “I think im starting to get it more” a lot

But I really think im starting to get it more

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i think this counts
my small contribution to this challenge lol

[vale meadow]

Nice

I like how it looks kinda like atone

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Have you seen how they teach some kids now?

It’s absolutely crazy

“The only way to get equality is to slow down the fast, because you can’t speed up the slow”

After what I have seen, I very much think that’s what they are doing

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I’m not sure what you mean

You talking about art?

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Somewhat agree somewhat disagree. ‘No child left behind’ has BEEN a thing since WE were toddlers. It’s another one of those sweet nothings they throw at the dart board because kids have been doing progressively worse in school. On the other hand

Gifted/talented, honors, AP, etc still exist for kids who can to achieve more.

My problem is moreso those kids in regulars who still fall between the gaps because they’re not quite at the honors requirement but still far ahead enough of their peers that the content isn’t stimulating anymore. Or kids whose skills go completely unnoticed (they typically start slacking or become labeled as ‘problem kids’).

I think everyone, kids who are behind and ahead of their peers, get screwed

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Nah

More school in general

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Im watching a video rn about people who can’t read clocks, think the Earth has 30 moons, dont know where the great wall of china is etc

I mean, some of these questions should be illegal to get wrong

It’s also super funny because some of them seem very sure about their answers, and I’m not above laughing at stupid answers for entertainment

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Adults or kids?

Adults not knowing these things, while ultra embarrassing, doesn’t necessarily mean they weren’t taught them

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Adults, this doesn’t string into my previous thing abt schools

This is something different, im jus saying it’s funny

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Oh

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U wanna hop in magma?

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Mm gimme a while I’m tryna see if I can go to Walgreens but my mom is on the phone

If you want a set time, ik for a fact I’ll be free at 8

Since the challenge is essentially done, what’s your sleep schedule gonna look like? Also, are you going any of October’s many many challenges?

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Yea, im planning to still go to sleep at 12 or around that time

And im also planning on doing the october stuff

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O cool. Official Inktober or some other prompt list?

Or your own?👁👁

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Lol, I don’t hace time to make my own

But ima find like

A cool one

And follow it

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👍👍

I’m wondering if I should make one with characters i like in general or fighting game characters specifically

Fighting games were a massive inspiration for me at one point and i still have a place in my heart for em

But there are also a lotta characters i simply cherish but haven’t drawn because fanart is my nemesis

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Yea,

I plan to find one where it’s like character focused or has cool stuff,

So like wings, demon, dragon etc

Generally stuff I would want to draw

Basically a lot of fantasy stuff

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Ah that’ll probably be easy to find

Gl

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https://magma.com/d/lnz000bncb

Gonna be working on this finish the art typa thing for another server. My mom miiiight interrupt n ask me to grade some stuff but we’ll see

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I was knocked out

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I’m feeling pretty good today

Ima prob start drawing in a bit

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Idk how people can praise their art up to the moon and not feel cringe abt it

Like, I get u being happy with ur art and saying u did good, giving urself a pat on the back and stuff, but once you go over that,

Well, I don’t see anything wrong with it in general,

Just, I could never do that, I barely feel happy abt the stuff I draw anyway

What if I drew while I was on cocaine?

My thought process getting to that question was very interesting

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Pretty much the sole reason I don’t hype my own work up. If i were satisfied with it for more than an hour or two, I’d probably hype some of my work up

anyway my agenda for today:
-job search
-day 2 fanart
-complete my part of an art challenge in another server for today
-call abt my transcript

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Basically the same as my day 2, as in my day too, saying day 2 makes it sound like im talking abt say 2 of October

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I know I would do so much better if I actually focused on digital art instead of traditional

But I feel like I wouldn’t really have much love for it in the long run,

Doing it occasionally is fun, but I probably wouldn’t like to do it if I did it as much as I did traditional art

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Hmm there is a feeling that can’t be replicated on digital

The tactile feedback of pen to paper will ALWAYS be different from pressure sensitivity on digital. Though you can get closer and further away depending on your digital device. My drawing tablet for my laptop feels closer to paper than my ipad and apple pencil, for example

But mmm depending on what you’re trying to do, you can keep your skill in both relatively close of you tailor you digital experience to mimic your traditional experience (via pencil textured brushes, a proper stylus, etc)

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I did not expect you to respond that fast

Currently, some ants have angered me, now I’m going to kill them

literally

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Was doing some hand studies, as I said I would do awhile ago

I have once again proven to myself that if I were to draw bigger, 8/10 times it would look better

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I like the one on the bottom

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Yea, those were the biggest ones I did so far

All the other ones were small, and I realized they looked very bad

So I just tried to draw it bigger, going against all my natural instincts

I feel like it’s not even about me drawing small,

Moreso its about me restricting myself

I don’t actually know how to put it into legible words

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Is it like that thing where every time you would post, you would give a reason why it wasn’t your best?

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Nah, more like restricting myself as in a mental thing were like I stop myself from doing my best due to some kind of stupid reason

Like, “I dun wanna take up too much space on the paper” or sum

And I end up fumbling on stuff cuz I have that in my head

But I draw way better when I’m not worried about the space being taken up or if ima draw sum bad etc

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Yeah sounds like

Potentially fear of your ‘best’ not being as great as you hope

If there’s a reason why your work isn’t what it could be, it’s not as disappointing to “fail” but you also keep yourself away from seeing what your actual best is

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Or alternatively I could just be drawing small cuz of habit and that’s all it is

[vale meadow]

I think I can draw hands half decent from imagination now

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Hmmmm

https://tenor.com/view/city-hunter-ryo-saeba-shrug-i-dont-know-i-dont-care-gif-14623021

The solution is the same regardless

Draw bigger🗣️

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U wanna hop in magma?

I also got some ideas for how I can draw figures more quick and more effectively, but I would rather trial and error in magma first

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You asked right when i got my arcade stick ready for guilty gear smh

Yeah I’ll draw💀

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Ima be up for a bit

So u can jus hmu wen u wanna hop on magma

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https://magma.com/d/lnz000bncb

Nah hop in

I draw first game second

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Haize

People only care about being right and having their own ideas confirmed now

It’s more about convincing the other person they are wrong than trying to prove why you are right

I would say I am an open minded individual, but I also need facts and related data if I am to actually believe something

It seems like now though, many people either make up their own “data” or just don’t care to look deep enough for it

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Ima get to drawing now

Idk what it is, but

I always start drawing around this time

I can’t seem to start ealier

[vale meadow]

I was warming up with some hand drawings

I realized this hand looked like

It had five fingers instead of four

Cuz I didn’t connect the line right

[vale meadow]

After drawing hands from imagination for awhile,

I have made some “rules” for it

By taking what I know and what looks right, with what looks wrong

So now I think I can half decently draw hands from imagination

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nice

I think that’s when you really start to understand something. When you can start making a list of dos and donts for yourself

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I remembered something really sad I did when I would I literally like just started drawing

I would like, go to a critique channel, and post something not because I wanted critique, but because I wanted people to validate my drawings

I just got reminded of it

Cuz I saw someone else in another server probably doing just that

And ow, I just stabbed right inside my fingernail with pinpoint accuracy with my pen, idk how I did that

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https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

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Ima hop in magma in a bit

In case u wanna join, ill ping u wen I do

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You never pinged

How long is a bit

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I just got back from my aunt

Got some candy and cake

We can hop in now

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👍

What kind of cake?

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Dairy cakes,

So like, the unhealthy stuff

She is basically the cool pop lady, so she has a ton of stuff

I didn’t get much tho

The only reason I even eat cake is to get that taste of sugar,

Which peace rings can do by itself

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[vale meadow]

Here is the link btw

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Few can even dare to compete with peach rings

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Uh ended up being a lot more than 20 mins haha

I should used my sand timer thing

Should have

[vale meadow]

My bad

I originally said 20 min cuz i wanted to wait for my hand to stop stinging

But I ended up falling asleep instead

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Sheesh

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I just lost everything

Ik u wont know the context, but let me explain a bit

I was crafting a t6 rune, currently the best rune in the game, and the runes go from t1-t6, to craft a t2 you need two t1 and so on, the chances also get lower and lower as you go

There is this handy thing called a ward scroll you can use to not lose your mats if crafting fails

(It takes around an hour to get 1 t5)

And so, thinking I still had my ward scroll on me, I went on ahead and tried crafting a t6

Only after it failed did I think to check if I had any

Now I have to regrind everything

But of course im not going to do that and ima just start drawing now

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💀damn

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/FE0Meqdq9rc?si=zEVdji62PdCPsbbN

[vale meadow]

I didn’t actually fraw anything today

I instead tried to grt back my t6 gem

And funnily enough, since I didn’t have any gems, my damage was way lower, which made it take even longer

So I jus hired some help

[vale meadow]

What if I put in 8 hour art days

[green horizon]

Diminishing returns unless they’re commissions

Imo

[vale meadow]

Returns r still returns

And also, im just not drawing enough I feel like

[green horizon]

You would kill any business with that mindset lmfao

[green horizon]

But the solution to this isn’t to go 3 thousand million kajillion

It’s to consistently put in a lower amount of time but to
make it high quality

[vale meadow]

I just noticed there r like 20 pll in vc

[green horizon]

Yeah it’s gotta be crazy in there

[vale meadow]

Yea, but I feel like

Im at a bottleneck, and to get to the Emperor realm,

I need some sort of experience

An epiphany

[green horizon]

Yeahhhhhh i still dont think 8 hour days are the way there tbh

[vale meadow]

Me either, but

A plan is a plan

[green horizon]

I plan to jump off a bridge and survive using only dental floss

You’ll die though!

A plan is a plan

That’s how you sound

[vale meadow]

Idk, if I did that, that dental floss would be made of some sort of alien material

[green horizon]

Yeah no

You’re gonna do what you want at the end of the day but ionnnn really think it’s gonna pay off

Why not just put in 2 or 3 hours consistently with a decent regimen of warm up, study content, fun drawings, cool down?

Why would that not be much more beneficial?

[vale meadow]

Hmm,

I will try that

Right now, I don’t get that fun feeling I had when I first started drawing, it doesn’t really bring me happiness anymore because

First off, literally everything I draw I just think it looks bad, or well most, not to say that if it looks bad it makes it not fun, but when it’s not fun and it looks bad, that’s a double whammy

Second, I don’t actually draw stuff I’m interested in anymore,

Because if I do and it looks horrible, then that’s it, I tap out for the day

[green horizon]

We’ll define fun for this 2-3h plan as ‘drawings done without intent of studying or learning anything specific’

Perhaps conceptual ideas

Preferably loose

[green horizon]

But I understand this feeling for sure

Very garbage feeling n it can be weird to push through

[vale meadow]

I feel like fun is hard to quantify in art, i don’t really know how to have fun anymore with my current skills

It would definitely be super fun to draw the ideas in my head, but

I don’t have the skills to being it to life in a way which I would deem pleasing to the eye

When I was worse and my visual library more constricted, it was fine

But now that I know how bad it really is, it makes it a lot worse

That’s another thing, I really like to compare with the top of the top, best of the best

Hold on, this rant will go on for a min

[green horizon]

I’m listening lol

[vale meadow]

I mean, I don’t see this as detrimental per se, but I think I can’t really see how good my art is because I don’t look at artist that are less technically skilled than me

It’s like spawn camping noobs for fun

But well,

I guess my solution to every art problem I face is to do what I have been doing, but for longer. Basically I just tell myself to work harder

Now, I know this seems kinda stupid,

But it’s actually for a reason

In the …uhh….I forgot the word…while I’m working, I try and find out what the problem actually is

Does this work?

Sometimes

K/D ratio aint what I would want it to be tbh tho

And,

Last thing

It doesn’t particularly demotivate me, but when I see people improving and me staying stagnant, it makes me feel like, “got to work harder now”

And I feel I have been stagnant for a long long time

Ok, that’s it

[green horizon]

Aight so the first part to me

Sounds like you’re basically at the pit of the dunning kreuger effect

No longer a beginner n you see just how much there is you don’t know, whereas a beginner overestimates their skill because they don’t really how vast the sea of knowledge is. They’re at the shore but someone at the pit feels like they’ve been sailing for an eternity

Yet all they still see is unexplored waters and no shore in sight

For the comparison part

That’s basically a tightrope. Comparison is great when you’re analyzing and really digesting small bits of information. Spot the difference is a great way to pin point problems n then further seek solutions. It’s a necessary skill for self taught folks

But you can’t put expectation in the same ring. Not saying you’re expecting yourself to be a great as the masters, but what are you expecting? On average, I think artists usually have their expectations too high. That includes me

You don’t need to be comparing yourself to noobs with your nose pointed up like you’re better than them

[vale meadow]

I expect 4k ultra high quality surround sound when I just have two cups connected by a string

[green horizon]

yeah. Terrible

[green horizon]

Buuut you do need peers who are in a similar range

A larger set of peers gives a better idea of what’s actually achievable. Ofc there will be outliers in both directions, but that’s why we take the average. Then you compare yourself to that. If you’re the best in the room, find a new room. If you’re the worst, dig around for information from them

It’s great to learn from masters, but I think it’s also valuable to see what people who are closer to your own skill level but slightly better have recently overcome

[vale meadow]

Yea, that’s actually really good advice

Maybe i can just like

Ask people to show me their studies

And then steal it to get better

[green horizon]

Yeah that’d be a good idea

They won’t be perfect but you’ll see their thought process

The masters have thought processes that are a bit too far beyond my understanding to truly learn from. It feels rewarding to learn something you can apply immediately and see results. Ofc we don’t always aim for instant gratification, but we need to see land sometimes instead of ocean

Like watching a speedpaint and not knowing wtf is going on after the first 3 mins when the whole vid is 34 mins

Too far beyond my understanding

[vale meadow]

At that point it’s just, “oh, it looks even better than before” on repeat

[green horizon]

Exactly

So

You doin the 2-3h thing for a bit?

Might restore some of the fun with the new approach in mind

[vale meadow]

Yea, im planning to draw 100 figures

[green horizon]

…over the course of multiple sessions or?

[vale meadow]

Lol, im ngl, I was jus messin with u

[green horizon]

😭

I was finna have an aneurysm

[vale meadow]

I do plan to draw for fun tonight tho

No studying or anything

And only simple shapes

So nothing too complex, low effort high reward type stuff

[green horizon]

[vale meadow]

I also found an amazing song

I never knew the name of

Randomly today

https://open.spotify.com/track/3nMWM6o4pD6lAkDRPdcqvh?si=xTOXS_PeTFK0f1jctprDAA

[green horizon]

👂

Cute

[vale meadow]

Time to draw

https://tenor.com/view/cc-gif-21564111

[vale meadow]

I think u foreshadowed it

Im sick ash rn

And not the pokemon ash

Maybe it wasn’t the hangnail by itself, but it probably just contributed to my previous sickness that was basically almost gone

Now it basically relapsed

[vale meadow]

It’s not nearly as bad as the first time tho

It’s basically just me coughing some

[green horizon]

[vale meadow]

Currently trying a whole new different approach to drawing

I would say for now, it looks way more cartoonish than I would like

But I feel like if I can master it, then I can breakthrough my bottleneck

[green horizon]

intriguinggg

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/WWLSYkMpYII?si=KeEWoHJPED6AFGjy

I really like this person’s voice, not loud, nor creepy etc

Just feel like they speaking real

I don’t particularly care abt the art, but it’s also nice

[vale meadow]

https://youtu.be/tjzHe2WHhN0?si=WYXjsjInU9LFmqWC

[green horizon]

I love her accent

[vale meadow]

It is me or has marc been getting more…uhh, i guess snarchy

[green horizon]

I got this in my recommended. Lemme watch rq

But his content has felt repetitive to me for a while, and that’s not even me just saying that due to them outgrowing their usefulness for me

[vale meadow]

I just use him for reference now

[green horizon]

So far things seem fine

Not an unusual level of snark. Only halfway through though

[vale meadow]

I looked it up

Apparently that is not a word

[vale meadow]

Also, u wanna hop in magma?

[green horizon]

Snark or snarky?

Those are words lol

[vale meadow]

Nah, mine wasn’t a word

[green horizon]

Oh

[green horizon]

Yeah gimme a min tho

Gotta get back in desk mode cuz i sat in my bed for a bit

[vale meadow]

Ima actually leave my room this time

Unlike usually

[green horizon]

Aight you got the link or are we using the oldone

[vale meadow]

My b

I jus started playing brawlhalla n forgot

[green horizon]

😭

[vale meadow]

https://magma.com/d/lnz000bncb

[green horizon]

Already there man

[vale meadow]

Ima start arting now

Ill try to draw more as soon as I wake up

Today im thinking of doing some shading practice

It’s quite easy to get something good digitally when shading, but traditionally, I am nit so lucky

[vale meadow]

They did him downright despicable

[green horizon]

Damn

[vale meadow]

They should: make this a real life kids show

[green horizon]

Cute

[vale meadow]

Context,

After every episode of Poco’s udon world

There is a little tidbit at the end about GaoGao and whatever he is doing

[vale meadow]

U wanna hop in magma?

[green horizon]

When do you sleep these days?

[vale meadow]

Imjust woke up not long ago

I would usually skeep by 12 or 1

But I had a stomachache, probably from that sugar bomb called coolaide

So I slept it off

[green horizon]

Oh sheesh

[green horizon]

Yeah I’ll draw in magma for a bit if you’re still down

But should i make tea hmmmmmm

[vale meadow]

U can make tea

While implay dis new MMO rq

Just downloaded it

[green horizon]

Aight… it’ll take less than 5 mins tho

Just putting the kettle on the stove

[vale meadow]

Ik ur a expert tea maker

[green horizon]

https://magma.com/d/qulalqgx2y

You got absorbed in the game huh🗿

[vale meadow]

Lol

Which fit looks better?

[green horizon]

Second one for sure

Fire

[vale meadow]

Ima go with that 1 den

And yea,

I just been

Making a character this whole thime

[green horizon]

Aye them character creation sections be lit as a mf

😭 2 hours just working on an avatar fr

[vale meadow]

U should have seen me in skurim

And sims

Sims was probably like

One of the most insane character creations ever

[green horizon]

Fax

Like i can choose exactly how much my cheeks expand when i smile? Bet

[vale meadow]

Give me like five min to complete tutorial

Then ill hop on magma

[green horizon]

Aight lol

[vale meadow]

They stole my name

[green horizon]

😔

[vale meadow]

Still had DarthMilk tho

I noticed some of the dialogue doffers

Cuz I read the subtitles and listen to them talk at the same time

Habit from anime I guess

Like the name of the town just now, subtitle was Moon shade or sum

But the girl said crescent town

[green horizon]

Hmm is the original version in English? I notice a good bit in games there’s a discrepancy

Like the subtitles and actual dub aren’t completely wrong but they’re not exact either

[vale meadow]

Maybe

Idrk much abt it

Just saw on google new free MmO

And my b

[vale meadow]

This is taking way longer than 5 min

[green horizon]

Indeed

[vale meadow]

Alr, u still there?

[green horizon]

Yeah

[vale meadow]

This is obviously ganna take wayyy longer than I thought, so ill go ahead and draw first

[vale meadow]

U ever hear of the game “life by you”?

It’s basically like the sims but it was supposed to be bigger, have multiplayer, and be more immersive

I feel like I heard it was in development years ago, now im hearing they canceled the early acess

The google article I read says that the person who made it said there were too many individual “flaws” or sum

I never really followed the game, nor did I ever think abt downloading it, but it’s crazy to jus drop sum like that

[green horizon]

Never heard of it

Thas a let down though. Sadly many many projects never get seen to the end

[vale meadow]

Also, the smudge tool is incredibly powerful

I was in there for like 3min

I would say it looks bit worse in that I lost some of that hardness

And everything looks kinda soft

But if I can put that back, it would look better in the end I feel

[green horizon]

Yeah sheesh

The difference is crazy

[vale meadow]

How u feel abt hopping in magma in like an hour?

[green horizon]

Mm I’ll probably feel like it yeah

[vale meadow]

Ill ping

[vale meadow]

An hour has passed

[green horizon]

https://magma.com/d/qulalqgx2y

[vale meadow]

I thought it was just me

But discord definitely doesn’t notify me anymore for this server

Like, it doesn’t pop up

Probably cuz I have 112 I haven’t checked

I don’t look in other channels anymore at all

As I said I would do

[green horizon]

Hhh

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/z9yG-aanOBs?si=qwm2HrzroaKVv1Qq

This comeback go hard

[green horizon]

Fr lmao

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Fvvs7C_iR2o?si=noXQ7586nwayMXah

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/zcZWEC94OoU?si=GcFHNBmBborKyH_N

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ln-ZEO0_x8I?si=bYVAIBpyz7ShvPt8

I been down the rabbit hole of yt shorts for awhile again

Now ima go read

[vale meadow]

Took a ton of drawing from joinks in the kim art server for reference

[vale meadow]

Ima improve my shading game today

I did ask him one time how he shaded, I really forgot what he told me tho

Ill have to go back and look

[vale meadow]

Ima hop in magma for a bit before I go and do traditional

[green horizon]

The nap i just took

Wooo

Hope your drawing is going well

[vale meadow]

Nah

Imjust ate a big meal

Then went to sleep

Just woke up

[vale meadow]

So it’s safe to say the drawing isn’t going at all

[green horizon]

How about now?

[vale meadow]

Im literally just abt to go draw

[green horizon]

Little under 2 hours to draw something worthy of calling a good day

More than enough

[vale meadow]

I plan to trade over the reference then test the shading

Since I think that way is jus a lot quicker

Of course ill do my own after tho

[green horizon]

Efficiency is key

[vale meadow]

I really don’t trace enough, I should have done it way more than I did

I really only did it a handful of times

[green horizon]

If my goal is to study something else, i don’t feel the need to go through everyyyy step with too much care

Makes it harder to preserve energy for the actual focus of the study

[vale meadow]

Yea, thats were I failed at

[green horizon]

Speaking of which, i need to study more

[vale meadow]

I tried to study one thing while also focusing on making sure everything else I studied was good

So basically, I was doing too much at once

[green horizon]

You have a habit of that haha

[vale meadow]

I didn’t plan to go to,college but

When u are thrown a 70k scholarship

With potential for more, though unlikely

I mean, I guess I should go then

[green horizon]

Just plan your steps out haha

[vale meadow]

I did plan out my steps, well, for not going to college at least,

I don’t think it will change drastically, and it might even uhh, resonate, culminate, uhh, whatever that word is I can’t seem to get the name of

But yea, it will probably be better if I do go

Now that I think abt it

[green horizon]

Well i mean if you go to college, even if you have a scholarship opportunity, plan what you’re goin for

Time is still currency

Any ideas on what you would pursue?

[vale meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/certain-magical-index-anime-ugh-dumb-baka-gif-13706740

How im feeling rn

I just want to pursue money

I mean, of course I know the “money isn’t everything” stuff

But, I just want massive amounts of money

Cuz, though money isn’t everything, money is most things in this economy

[green horizon]

So we talkin med student or sumn? Cuz they make their bread no doubt

[vale meadow]

Probably not, I wouldn’t wanna work like a doctor, props to them, but I couldn’t do it

[green horizon]

Yeah the time sink, the work life balance, the day to day

It gets crazy at those super high income jobs

[vale meadow]

I ultimately planned to start a business, or rather an agency etc etc blah blah

But like, I can still do that, but if im a doctor,

That would have no point

B/c the reason I would wanna do that is so I didn’t have to work as hard myself

[green horizon]

Well I’m sure you’ve heard the entrepreneurship thing: work 80 hours to avoid working 40

You’d probably be working harder for a long time if we’re being real

For less at the beginning too

[vale meadow]

Yea, I don’t wanna avoid handwork or anything, but being a doctor, I feel I would be working hard forever

[green horizon]

Yeahhh

[vale meadow]

Though this is only from

My surface level knowledge abt doctors

Maybe Imwould go for sum computer related

Like programming or sum

[green horizon]

They have some of the highest suicide rates iirc

Along with dentists

[vale meadow]

I wanted to make a joke, but nah, that’s just really sad

The joke was definitely funny tho

[green horizon]

😭

[vale meadow]

Making games makes bread tho

If u make a good enough game

Or even just a fun game

[green horizon]

Yeah

[vale meadow]

And from what I know,

[green horizon]

What i hear about those tech jobs are that the pay is good but they’re very competitive

[vale meadow]

Prgrammers who are hired get paid big bucks

Talking abt my potential near future while sitting in my bed….how can I say this…..it feels very weird

[green horizon]

I can’t imagine being something like a doctor. The ONLY way i would is if i had a lover i could come home to n just lean on bro

[green horizon]

Lol

[vale meadow]

I have a secret lover

They are always there for me

Anytime, anyday

They also live in my head

[green horizon]

💀

I’m planning on starting college before the year ends

Tbh i still dk what I actually wanna do. Rn I’m gonna go for a pharmacy technician certification so i can at least get a job and start stacking money

[vale meadow]

So u ganna be making weed?

Cuz that’s what that sounds like

[green horizon]

Unfortunately I’d only be packaging the weed and handing it off smh

I’ll take my share before i do tho

[vale meadow]

Anything involving weed means bread

Ah, I guess I’ll actually start taking my studies seriously again though

[green horizon]

Yes that would be a good move

[vale meadow]

I can finally put my wasted academic talents back to use

[green horizon]

I might have to take the TSI (a Texan exam for college readiness) and I will not be prepared because I haven’t learned since middle school

So yeah put in the effort while there’s still structure haha

[vale meadow]

I was jus abt to say

Ill also take my act again

To get a higher score

Cuz I know I can get a higher score

[green horizon]

For sure

[vale meadow]

I literally picked random answers for science and still got a 20

So that’s guaranteed easy claps if I study

It was easy too, I jus forgot the stuff

Like heterozygous and stuff dominate recessive etc

I learned that in like, 6th grade I think

[green horizon]

Ah the genetics n whatnot

Idk how much i would remember if i had to take an exam

I never took the act sat or tsi sooo it’s comin back to bite me

UNLESS i can dance around it since I’m not getting a degree

I’m getting a certification

[vale meadow]

Never?

[green horizon]

Never

[vale meadow]

I thought they like forced u to do it

As they did to me

[green horizon]

I thought so too but apparently not. Once I start school, I’m probably be back in the rhythm of things and be able to go take those if necessary

They’ll probably be required once i go back to school for something else

[vale meadow]

I checked, u can take the act like six months out of the whole year

So, u have plenty of time to do that if required

[green horizon]

Yeah. For now i wont need the sat or act. Only the tsi. I can probably have those scheduled easily. Then I need to send them medical records

But i already got the acceptance email so that’s neat

Im gonna try to jump into the winter mini session which is all of the semester’s content in a massive cram session

So I’ll be caught yp

[vale meadow]

Once we both finish college, U can slide me some weed and I can sell it off and put it into a business

Then we can make stacks

[green horizon]

Hell yeah

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-chemistry-experiment-scientific-walter-white-gif-17820266

[vale meadow]

Alr, ima add an aditontal two hours of study everyday, probably from khan academy

Cuz that has everything and anything

For tonight, ima jus read a but and then sleep

[green horizon]

👍

[vale meadow]

Whenever I use use my microwave, I always think “what if it blows up”, for no particular reason, just because of how it lights up when you turn it on

And I finally had a dream about my microwave on fire

It didn’t blow up, but it was on fire

Hopefully I can get it to blow up soon

[green horizon]

Rooting for you

https://tenor.com/view/trinity-bomb-nuclear-weapon-oppenheimer-los-alamos-atom-bomb-gif-16272589027919557028

[vale meadow]

I did the face in the left corner

I think I know wer I failed at

I remember jeff watts, he would always mark out the areas of light and shadow before he actually began shading

I think I should do that as well

Also, mine is a lot more gritty

Probably either because of differences of material, or shading, or both

Actually, I didn’t even do any shading, the face was too small to shade

[green horizon]

I’m going to instant transmission to wherever you are and choke you out if you keep drawing small

https://tenor.com/view/dn-death-note-staring-gif-21861193

[vale meadow]

It’s workin tho

i do feel like

Im starting to get better at shading

Though, slowly

[green horizon]

Thas a W at least

[green horizon]

Shoot i need to study these. They’re awesome

The traditional mileage would be nice too

[vale meadow]

They are awesome

[vale meadow]

Magma?

[green horizon]

Honestly dk if I’d be able to focus tonight

Maybe tomorrow

Definitely show if you draw sumn cool tho

[vale meadow]

Yea, tonight is a weird night for sure

October the tenth

[green horizon]

Maybe I’ll give traditional a shot later

But rn i just wanna do nothing

[vale meadow]

Nah, I get it,

I do nothing for most of the day

I just get sudden energy hursts at night

Ill probably also get to doing traditional instead of digital as well, ill show if I make sum worthy of showing

[vale meadow]

I forgot to take a pic of what I did las night

It was nothing much,

I just watched an elephant live recording

And drew a bit from it

Did you know elephants have like, idk what it is, like veins in their ears?

This stuff here

[vale meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/CuSg0C8HmqA?si=3xx1x5bhU-6dK-j7

Whenever someone does a vid on this ep, I always love it

Cuz it shows how badaz Batman is

[vale meadow]

My mental health deteriorates daily

[green horizon]

Need to talk abt somethin?

[vale meadow]

Not really

Sometimes life is life-ing

After some good food and sleep everything is fine again

[vale meadow]

Been working on this for a bit

The near art has way too little fluff

Compared to the other one

So I might change that up

[green horizon]

Oo this is fire. I like how you drew the torso and all the fluff up top

[vale meadow]

I also hope all the useless detail I out into the open skirt thing saves me

Cuz I don’t know how to draw folds at all

[vale meadow]

That took forever

[green horizon]

worth it

[vale meadow]

Think I finally found the shading technique I need

[green horizon]

Lemme take a lookie look

[vale meadow]

Preliminary attempt

[green horizon]

Ay that looks really cool

[vale meadow]

Then I did my job

[green horizon]

Oh brother

[vale meadow]

They also all died on the 25th

Two is a coincidence, three is intentional

[vale meadow]

Idk why, but I was thinking whoever submitted for the critique would be hurt from this

[green horizon]

Sheesh

[vale meadow]

Very good stream

I was at the edge of my seat the whole time

I got to go now tho, I been watching for awhile

[green horizon]

Truly enthralling experience

[vale meadow]

Im trying way harder stuff now, cuz I noticed I just been one and done, obviously this isn’t always a success, but

I think in the long run, I’ll improve faster this way

[vale meadow]

What I did wrong here I think is

I made the value way too dark

Like the overall value

Or actually, it probably would have been fine

I simply just didn’t know what I was doing

Hopefully I will soon tho

[green horizon]

This was definitely salvageable with more time. Getting that rendering going like on the horns n then at the end going in with even darker values to re establish the lines (aka hard edges) woulda been fire

But part of the struggle is hitting that wall n not knowing how to continue your gameplan so I understand

Only place where i would say values are too dark too early on is the eye honestly🤔 the rest would eventually look much lighter in comparison once you built up your values more

[vale meadow]

Yea, I been like

Trying to do smaller parts

Working on stuff individually then once I put it all together, ill be able to make it look good

I may also need a better pencil sharpener cuz mine isn’t making the pencils sharp anymore, it’s just making it good enough to use

And to shade, I think I need decent sharpness

[vale meadow]

I also did not expect you to respond at 4 am, I was already up at around 2am, did some exercise, then did some work

I just got done, now ima relax for a bit

[vale meadow]

Guy got better than me in ten days

Idk how they do it, it’s actually quite insane whenever I see these 30 days drawing videos and they all just turn out insanely good

Of course some of them might be fake, but I don’t really think too many of them are

Guess it’s time to get back to the drawing board

get it, drawing board

[green horizon]

Sometimes they’re not fake per sé but the person still has a background that lends itself to learning drawing even if they don’t know it

But they’re also usually striving for being able to draw a very specific thing and therefore aren’t grinding the fundamentals heavily for the purpose of being able to draw anything like we do🤔

^Not cope but an analysis on the discrepancy

It’s still impressive what genuinely sticking to somethin for a month can do

[vale meadow]

My goal is to become the Pir— I mean Artist King

So I got to grind so hard that I’m just good at everything