⌨coders-cave

[tropic dagger]

Lmao

[prisma grail]

I got an RTX 3060 Ti. Not that good Ig, but more than good enough for my usecases. xD

[barren shale]

3060 or 3060 TI is the best choice when buying a gpu

enough to play all games

[lapis flint]

Yes

[barren shale]

not the highest settings

but decent settings

[lapis flint]

3060ti my thing

[barren shale]

its always the 60s

[lapis flint]

And also for playing with neural things

[barren shale]

1060 2060 3060 4060

[lapis flint]

12gb is enough

[barren shale]

always the best option

i mean even me with the 3060 laptop version

i can play everything

and its working very good

but that's 1080p

if u have a normal 3060 you can go for 1440p easily

[lapis flint]

I only had drops and lags in hogwarts legacy with enabled rtx

[static solar]

Running LLM's locally is resource intensive as hell

I used to think my PC was on the higher end but the recent AI boom has shattered that illusion

[barren shale]

yeah AIs need lots of gpu memory to run fast

cuz if you cant load the whole model at the same time ur basically fooked

[static solar]

It is kind of crazy we are even allowed to access this tech for free. Unless they have the servers running in some country without electricity bills like crypto miners, a single request should already cost a bit of money, which adds up VERY quickly

[prisma grail]

Yeah, it's honestly overkill for most things I do.

[wet girder]

Eh I'd not go nvidia for most people honestly

I fell into the hype when I bought my current gpu and I regret it

[coral gorge]

ok but the thing is

radeon wears so fucking fast

[barren shale]

well yeah when i said its the best choice what i really meant is for an nvidia gpu

[coral gorge]

after a year the graphics card barely worked

[barren shale]

does it though?

[coral gorge]

yes

[barren shale]

never heard of it

maybe ur just unlucky

[coral gorge]

now im using nvidia but

[coral gorge]

the problem with nvidia is

your cpu bottlenecks

[barren shale]

cant say there's a problem when the sample size is 1 x)

[barren shale]

that's not a problem

that means you bought a gpu that's a lot better than your cpu

[coral gorge]

yeah and thats the problem

[barren shale]

its nto a problem with nvidia though

[coral gorge]

i know

theyre just way too fast for me

[barren shale]

[coral gorge]

@wet girder knows

i take 300 hours to load

but then i run smooth

[wet girder]

Wtf are yoy on about

If that happened you got a defective unit

Gpus should not wear out

They kinda just die when they get old, you usually don't really notice a performance difference on modern gpus

[wet girder]

What cpu u got?

[coral gorge]

ryzen 5900X

[coral gorge]

actually

if youre automatically tuning them

[wet girder]

Bro your performance is potato class, one of your parts ain't working out well

[coral gorge]

its just the hdd

then the 4k monitor

[prisma grail]

Literally why would you not buy an SSD?

[coral gorge]

i have one

its full

[prisma grail]

IwI

[barren shale]

took 3 guesses and a hint but it guessed right x)

4 guesses*

[rose pawn]

🩷CHAT🩷G🩷P🩷T🩷

[quartz pumice]

No

[tulip quest]

ChatGPT: ❌

Chimp typing on a keyboard: ✅

[knotty root]

It should be a crawfish

[tulip quest]

I'm the chimp

[knotty root]

Sure...

[tulip quest]

not in a biological sense, but in a mental one

[knotty root]

Tis is what I thought

[quartz pumice]

Chinese

Chinese chatgpt factory

[knotty root]

No flooding

No spamming

@quartz pumice same thing with you

[quartz pumice]

how does this even happen

its both inverted and ignored everything that wasnt in the corner

gpu isnt even doing bat shit that bad boy is just giving up not even a fifth of the way through 😭

I guess it just hates anything below 480*480

yay

[rotund kayak]

print ("Hello World")

[quartz pumice]

ive stolen your code

[knotty root]

function spawn_modern_building(x, y)
local building = CreateEntity("modern_building", x, y)
building:SetProperty("height", 10)
building:SetProperty("width", 10)
building:SetProperty("material", "concrete")
building:SetProperty("style", "modern")
World:AddEntity(building)

Guys chatgpt

Says that code like this can work on mobile

If I had the console or smth LUA

[feral bramble]

???

[lyric grove]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-goal-gif-5623252

[silk oriole]

[dusty kernel]

chatgpt also says that WorldBox mods are written in Java

[knotty root]

Ale they tho?

[hardy field]

No they aren't

ChatGPT makes a lot of stuff up

There is no way to put commands into the worldbox console since the worldbox console exists solely to locate errors, and there is no data in the game for modern buildings, there is no programming for setting the width or height of modern buildings, there is no value in worldbox for the material that buildings are made of, and that makes it clear that chatgpt has no idea about worldbox at all. In addition, you have no idea about this channel at all, because in the channel description it says that "this chat is NOT WORLDBOX RELATED"

[dusty kernel]

How would ChatGPT even get any information of the game except for gameplay. They aren't allowed to give the source code of the game to ChatGPT, so there is no way to get any useful information about modding.

[tulip quest]

quick somebody say something non-worldbox related

[remote spruce]

||6 AM Hotdog||

[lapis flint]

It could receive sourse code info by shared decompiled code

Also, from some tutorials

Also, it have access to engine's docs

• some exist mods with source code opened

A lot of data sources

[tulip quest]

ChatGPT is an interesting idea implemented well that has *some* uses, but the way people talk about it and use it is less specific to what it actually is. All it does is provide it's guess at a most likely answer, so when you ask it to tell you how to do something impossible it tries to make something up. It applies for possible stuff too; you can ask it to do maths and it'll fail almost anything original (it does read the textbooks and remembers problems and answers, but doesn't know how to solve problems it hasn't seen)

[lapis flint]

No, its not

Its not just using remembered stuff

Its very smart

But lazy, so you need tyo kick it to not be lazy and provide what you want

Also, depends on how you made prompt

It can't read your thoughts

[tulip quest]

It's a pretty good mimic, to the point where when it can't get a problem and you give it a little more information it can solve the problem

or rather, it generates a better answer

[lapis flint]

As i said, it can't read thoughts

[tulip quest]

Main problem isn't that it can't read thoughts, it's that a lot of people assume it knows all the things

And not only that, it pretends to know all the things

(Unless you prompt it correctly, but people don't like to do that)

[feral bramble]

As I remember someone saying, it's good for getting the structure of code.

And just have to know coding to correct that into actual working code

_ _
As for the use case of modding you'll have to ask it specific questions and provide information to get something accurate enough to edit into code.

[dusty kernel]

or you just use other code from games or apps as reference

[distant wraith]

The only uses of coding AIs for me are refactoring, commenting, and getting general ideas. I feel like those are the only things that they rarely fail at

Even if they do, I can easily fix it myself

[tulip quest]

AI is a tool. Can be helpful in certain situations, but in situations it won't help, it's good not to be dependent on it. Like the modding one from earlier

[queen zodiac]

Hello coders

[knotty root]

Hello

[errant trail]

1+1=11

1+1=10

[grim mulch]

Use a normal coding language

[quartz pumice]

What if he's using a language that = works on raw memory so like 11 is the 11'th byte in memory

They are doing

*((unsigned int *) 11) = 2
*((unsigned int *) 10) = 2```

[static solar]

Why do I relate so much to this?

[errant trail]

yes i definitely meant that 100%

[modern ruin]

coding

[narrow light]

I think more people should be informed on that Chat GPT doesnt know anything its just trained on questions and answer

because otherwise it just becomes google

but always wrong

its like wikipedia if my teachers were right

also we gotta teach the boomers how wikipedia works

no you cannot just edit a major page out of nowhere

[barren shale]

not really

gpt 4o can google

and look up the internet

and you can use copilot which is a version of gpt 4 which can also google stuff

chatgpt has gotten a lot better in the last couple of months

its way more reliable than before, you just gotta know how to prompt it

[errant trail]

you can actually

people just make it harder by reverting it but they have to do it manually

[narrow light]

Arent some pages locked

[errant trail]

not all

read the definition of "some"

[wet girder]

Guys I have officially changed my mind about WPF. I hate it

Better than winforms tho

[prisma grail]

What happened to cause that?

[wet girder]

UI automation testing to native WPF

If you modify tabcontrols template it just won't let you do UI automation testing without hopping through some major hoops

I've spent 2.5 days of work figuring this shit out

I feel like my brain is melting

[prisma grail]

Tbh, I do not know nearly enough frontend stuff (almost nothing) to know what you're talking about, but it sounds like a nightmare anyways.

[barren shale]

most desktop apps can be made as a website

which is a better way to do it

because websites run on everything

and are way easier to develop

make websites

but dont use php

[errant trail]

hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahha

[errant trail]

why do people hate php

like i used it and it works fine

[wet girder]

They run slower and haven't have that good support for IO ports like USB (which won't be the case for long) so for this software it has made sense to have it as a desktop application but generally I do agree

[barren shale]

🤮

[barren shale]

true

that's why i said most

sometimes you need to make a desktop app

which is 🤮

[errant trail]

why do browsers run slow

[wet girder]

yeah I completely agree that most software should not be desktop apps

[barren shale]

tbh the slowness of websites is irrelevant

most apps are not computionally heavy

[wet girder]

They don't run slow. Just not as fast as desktop apps

[errant trail]

yeah but they make me wait 10 years for a page to load

[wet girder]

that's just bad internet connection

[barren shale]

or a very bad website

a really dense webapp is like 1 mb at most if programmed correctly

[wet girder]

If you're making software for countries that don't have a good internet connection there is an argument to be made about desktop apps being better for that

Or making software that needs to be used in places with not good connectivity in general like middle of the forest

Websites are good for general stuff but there are a lot of use cases for desktop apps still

They're just usually kinda niche in the western world

[errant trail]

my laptop (the only device capable of using windows) will use 20 FUCKING PERCENT of its cpu JUST BECAUSE IM MOVING AROUND MY MOUSE

?????????

im fucked

[barren shale]

i can make my laptop use 100% cpu with idling if i set the clock speed low

cpu utilization is a weird number

its calculated weirdly

also windows will try to do stuff when ur not doing anything

[tulip flume]

Kill chrome
Decapitate chrome
Round house kick chrome into concrete

[tulip quest]

Report chrome to the firefox enclave

[errant trail]

"java for dummies" have more pages than a dictionary

[queen zodiac]

Lmao

[next lotus]

tells a lot about that language

[tulip quest]

Honestly, Java's fine until you need a programming language with any specialization apart from web development

I understand Java and Javascript are separate, but they're still very similar

[barren shale]

java is bad

[tropic dagger]

Huh 😭

Java is just obsolete

And I hate enforced oop so I hate java, as the representation of what I hate most

[gaunt gale]

guys

[next lotus]

java bad

[gaunt gale]

I'm gonna get a PC in a few months and finally be able to learn code. what coding language should I start with?

[next lotus]

c# only

[gaunt gale]

oh ok

thanks

[next lotus]

js if you want to make projects in 2 days and debug for 2 years

java if you dont want to be relevant, except for minecraft

[gaunt gale]

interesting.

[next lotus]

erm what the sigma

[carmine pivot]

Hey, I want to start modding this but idk where to start

[feral bramble]

#🔧modding-talk

look at pins or ask around

[carmine pivot]

k

[tulip quest]

what I mean by what I said earlier about Java being fine until you need to specialize is that there are applications that it's about on par with other languages, but not any that it's better

which is why I support people calling it bad, only reason to use Java is because you want to use Java

[worn pawn]

roblox

[acoustic brook]

Android coustom map no computer?

/mods

[errant trail]

mods

[wet girder]

https://xkcd.com/327

xkcd: Exploits of a Mom

Her daughter is named Help I'm trapped in a driver's license factory.

[tawdry temple]

roblox

[errant trail]

thats just self inflicted pain

lmao

not sanitizing sql in a SCHOOL

[wet girder]

I had a big problem at work which I just wasn't able to fix so I asked help from my coworker who somehow found an article about just the problem from 2011 that had perfect explanation on how to fix it

13 year old article saved me

https://tenor.com/view/ultrasound-gif-10769419

[wicked spindle]

“Help there’s a problem that i can’t fix!”
10 year old reddit post:

[tulip quest]

when you have a problem and find only one guy talking about it on an abandoned, unanswered post from 2007:

[remote spruce]

For some reason there is this unneeeded check in-game for the “clan” loyalty asset.

For some reason it compares the leader and kings’ races but they will always be in the same race as they are in the same kingdom.

result = 0
Actor leader = pCity.leader;
Actor king = pCity.kingdom.king;
if (leader == null || king == null)
{
return 0;
}
if (king.race != leader.race)
{
return result;
}

Maybe it was just put there in preparation for possible multi race kingdoms.

[errant trail]

yes

idk

wait is reverse engineering

a paid game

illegal

technically ur just buying for the service

not the game

[remote spruce]

If you distribute it I think so but I have no idea.

[prisma grail]

What class/method is that code in?

[prisma grail]

I'm quite sure that Maxim doesn't mind/care about people decompiling WorldBox, modders do it all the time for modding, which he knows, and he still chooses to make the game nice to mod for us and let us distribute our mods here on the server.

Also, getting decompiled C# code of the game (or generally any DLL based on C#) is quite easy unless intentional obfuscation is in place because software like dnspy can literally just open the DLL files and convert the IL code they store back into C#.

It's not perfect as aspects like the specific code formatting, constants, and comments are lost, but it's still quite easy&convenient.

[remote spruce]

LoyaltyLibrary under loyaltyAsset17 I believe

[prisma grail]

Yeah, thanks, found it already.

Pretty interesting/random that it's there in an otherwise clan related check. xD

[remote spruce]

It looks similar to the clan method in the Opinion library, maybe they copied it over and just forgot they didn’t need that part.

[prisma grail]

Could be, though it makes me wonder what other parts in the current game release already come with theoretical support for multiple race kingdoms.

Well, definitely enough for other modders to have (kinda) successfully made imperial thinking options back during 0.21.1.

[remote spruce]

Yeah that is quite interesting.
If I find anything else like it I’ll post it here.

[wet girder]

depends on the country. In the US and the EU it's legal but not everywhere in the world

[rugged veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938850984543809557/1240824864374259712/Screenshot_20240516_130351_YouTube.jpg?ex=6647f7b5&is=6646a635&hm=1e2c68ec3be19295b2979a502befb68d879c8f74a0128a06e48e7dfb254c5e84&

[daring turret]

Can someone give me the druid's sprite sheet?

thanks!

[remote spruce]

I will give it to you if no one has given it to you by the time I can get to my pc (might be a couple hours).

Or you can try using AssetStudio on the resources.assets file of the game and get it yourself.

https://github.com/Perfare/AssetStudio

[daring turret]

IDK i'm not a modder I'm just trying to make a sprite sheet for @wispy vale

[proven anvil]

I just coded a mod for a friend over the course of 3 days for free and didn’t even get a thank you 💀

I ain’t never doing that again

[feral bramble]

bruh

[prisma grail]

@remote spruce Hey, fyi, this channel is meant to be for general coding topics without a relation to WorldBox, so especially questions related to modding the game like this fit much better in #🔧modding-talk !

[wet girder]

https://www.danielzarick.com/blog/draw-the-owl/

[valid marsh]

trying to change stats on diversitycrate because they kinda suck what does these stats refrence setBaseStats(150, 15, 40, 0, 5, 92, 0);

[tulip quest]

bruh if you read literally (the actual meaning of literally) 2 messages above you it's been pointed out that this is not the channel to point that out in

y'all are blind or something

you're not the only one

try #🔧modding-talk

[valid marsh]

thats a bit rude of a way to say it but thank you ill try that out

[tulip quest]

sorry man, it just gets funny how many times people mess up like this 😂 no offense intended

[prisma grail]

Ngl, this was a great read. I love how an art meme complaining about bad tutorials can turn into actual great advise.

[grand meteor]

how do we download a map and put it on our game?

[queen zodiac]

Lmao

[queen zodiac]

Someone wanna be stabbed

[subtle kernel]

ong

[daring turret]

Sorry my bad

[quartz pumice]

Why the fuck does it sayerror: 'entrythread' was not declared in this scope, but its defined in literally the line before it ```cpp
std::thread entrythread(entry, instance, surface);

entrythread.join();``` entire code, wwinmain 77-79 https://pastebin.com/YVKb8shZ

[quartz pumice]

nevermind it was dumb lmao

[tropic dagger]

Damn

Redrum

[wanton field]

code for hack pls

[queen zodiac]

Elaborate

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-how-about-no-austin-powers-gif-17640212

[wanton field]

pls

[queen zodiac]

What hacks

[queen zodiac]

Ew, the impostor Jupe is here

[wanton field]

whatsapp

[wet girder]

how am I an impostor

[queen zodiac]

What? Why the hell would you want to hack whatsapp

[queen zodiac]

Check the last times I pinged you

[queen zodiac]

Further back

[wet girder]

this one?

[queen zodiac]

There we go

[wet girder]

that was literally 4 months ago

[queen zodiac]

I never forget who I am

[wet girder]

Also you do realize that a vulnerability in whatsapp that would allow this is worth about 2.5 MILLION USD? No random discord guy has that kind of zero days

[wet girder]

You change your name and pfp often so I probably will if I am being completely honest

[queen zodiac]

[wet girder]

I only remember people who keep the same name and pfp

if we ignore eye, eye can change those as much as he wants and I'll still remember him

[queen zodiac]

I am Seyern. Pfp with a red S. Current PFP is a little joke

[wanton field]

you abuse it 2.5 MUSD

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

Also this is against ToS so if you don't stop talking about this I'll just report you to discord

[queen zodiac]

Musk US Dollars?

[wanton field]

it's okay sorry

[errant trail]

hey guys plz give hax for mincecraft

[quartz pumice]

script kiddie detected!!

[tulip quest]

/give @s minecraft:hax

[plain cargo]

do yall think ill learn some from of coding if im in this discussion long enough or should i just actually do smth to learn

[tulip quest]

you should pick something you want to do with programming, and we might be able to help you learn to do it

"we" might just mean "I" in this case, but it still holds

[errant trail]

you will, but doing something will speed it up ten fold

[queen zodiac]

press alt+F4 to get access to the developer menu

[quartz pumice]

bruh im in a discord where someone is saying efi is "not too bad really"

[orchid frigate]

its not too bad

as long as you dont use it

[sullen steeple]

lol

[errant trail]

what the hell

javascript or python

wtf

never seen that syntax

looks like both

is that rust

???????

for x in page.cookies

how is that

allowed

in

ok

[feral bramble]

the heck is this code even printing out and what for?

and looks like python -w-

[still bramble]

Programmers: X=X+1
Mathematicians: STOP YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE LAW

[sullen steeple]

😋

[barren shale]

prints out cookies

there's an extra reversed and split that i dont think are important

[errant trail]

how do i

decode this

im tryna reverse engineer an api

https://pastebin.com/8gXPGMVa

[lapis flint]

Reverse engineer means make the same without using sources

[wet girder]

Try cyberchef

[errant trail]

ok nerd

[prisma grail]

Ouch, that's painful amounts of shortening.

[queen zodiac]

makes sense

[lapis flint]

Lmao

[bronze depot]

Coders working like the guys who translated the Rosetta Stone ❓

[errant trail]

yes

and

[tulip quest]

better not be shortening variables like that and leave long elif chains without simplification 🤦‍♂️

[static solar]

No I think I'd

https://andreasjhkarlsson.github.io/jekyll/update/2023/12/27/4-billion-if-statements.html

[feral bramble]

What the fuckkk

[queen zodiac]

bruh

literally me

[errant trail]

uh we use HTML

hard for a beginner but once you get the hang of it everything just falls in place naturally

[tulip quest]

[timid field]

What

https://tenor.com/view/bill-cipher-gif-19970064

[obtuse bronze]

wild 4tran encounter... ‼️

[balmy vector]

How do I code to one day program robotics

[obtuse bronze]

start with arduino maybe thats what i see the robotics people start with

[errant trail]

arduino is not something people only start with, they use it from start to end

[tulip quest]

Start with learning some programming for ordinary computers so you can make processes better, and try out Arduino at some point along the line. I'm not sure where to go and what to do if you want to be properly developing robotics for practical settings, but Arduino gives you a good foothold to start with.

[balmy vector]

Any coder active I have a question

Like what do I do with python

I've downloaded it

The a few codes I've tried now what

I only have python I heard i need a second app

Does that help?

[tulip quest]

I'd get pycharm

it's pretty useful, it'll let you save, run and modify your code properly

and it also helps with autofilling stuff, even when you don't really use it it's still helpful with figuring out syntax errors before you run your code

anyway, after getting pycharm it's a good idea to look for tutorials on basic stuff you can do with python, if you can bear with someone for a bit while they teach you how to make window popups and make graphics on them you can have a good foundation to learn code off of

also always remember that modules are your friends

[errant trail]

id use "vs code", you can also use python to calculate or process any data. or make a game

[tulip quest]

whatever works works, pycharm worked for me when I was... worse at coding

[wet girder]

I don't like pycharm personally but some people love it. Then again I use visual studio for python

[prisma grail]

I think Pycharm is great if you disable default type inspections and install an LSP extension like Pyright that adds more strict type checking. By default though, I hate how tends to either ignore a lot of type issues or only give weak warnings about them.

[tulip quest]

there's downsides of course, (I hate the style warnings it gives me for stuff like indenting the slightest bit wrong or having the wrong amount of space between functions) but it works as a place to start.

[prisma grail]

That's something that can quite conveniently just be disabled though if not desired.

[tulip quest]

thanks for the tip! I'm usually just too focused on programming to actually go out of the way to enable that stuff lol

let me go do that real quick...

[prisma grail]

You're welcome!

[barren shale]

i think vs code is completely fine for anything

but i still prefer rider for C#

but zed will eventually be on windows and that will be a vscode replacement for me

[static solar]

Real

[maiden epoch]

Hey could someone help me with learning python? I've been using samples in pydroid but I can't grasp anything past the very simple basics

[errant trail]

real

[feral bramble]

you most defintely can find out alot of documentation and tutorials out there online if you just search for it. Though feel free to ask me stuff here or in dms

[maiden epoch]

Alright, thank you

[tulip quest]

I'll be ready to help you with anything you're struggling with, I don't know everything about python, but I definitely know enough important concepts to make stuff

[maiden epoch]

I learned a bit from a 10 minute crash course, but I'm still lacking a ton

[naive wadi]

uhh coders

@naive wadi weu

[feral bramble]

Is there any better way to add multiple of the same single int lists to a dictionary value?

Ok now that i think bout it should probably make the for loops a function

[quartz pumice]

.insert(0, [])
Later ..
[x].insert(0, width)

I'm very helpful you are totally not already doing that

[feral bramble]

Amazing

It'd be nice if

list+[2]*64

worked but it doesn't. puts the list + [2,2,2,2,2...

Just lovely

[balmy vector]

Guys I don't get coding

Like how do I go from hello world to programming robots

Or making games

All ik how do is hello world and some other stuff

But then what

How do I develop to programming machine robotics and games

[tulip quest]

first, you need to learn the ropes a bit

stuff like variables, if-statements, while and for-loops, functions, etc.

(There's a lot of good tutorials for this part, I might have to find one for you)

at some point, you reach a stage where you can make code to solve basically any number-based problem you can wrap your head around

or you can try and learn programming and robotics at the same time, using tutorials for stuff like arduino instead

[errant trail]

theres no path

theoretically you could do that rn but just try to train your brain to use these programming languages first

[feral bramble]

understand the language and logic of it ye

[humble wasp]

@unreal sinew

[balmy vector]

How do it rn

[balmy vector]

I need a to learn quickly

I wanna go to uni for mechatronic engineering

[tulip quest]

alright, if you want to learn quick you can still take the tutorial route and learn enough pretty quickly

[balmy vector]

All these tutorials idk the right one th

[tulip quest]

well, do you want to get started with pure programming or actual examples with slight machinery involved?

I reckon pure programming can be more useful to start with but it's an important choice

[balmy vector]

I want machinery programming I'd never start programming by it self unless

I only want to learn bc it an interlink w my career

[tulip quest]

it sounds like learning fundamentals could help a bit then

partly because I can't be sure exactly what in particular would be better for you to learn

and in that case, I think I'll just get you a tutorial for python in a moment

python isn't the fastest, best or most practical, but it's very good for learning fundamentals without hurdles, and it's easy to phase into something more specialized from it

(it might take a little while for me to find something, personally how I learnt it wasn't one course in particular and happened over a long time, and I used paid stuff so I'll look for something else)

@balmy vector hopefully this'll do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqtD5dpn9C8

(I'm still here if you have a question to ask, even if I might only be able to answer it tomorrow morning seeing as it's getting late where I am)

[unreal sinew]

@humble wasp

[winged eagle]

hi

[tulip quest]

is this breaking any rules? I'm just trying to help someone get started with programming, and Python is the easiest way to get into it

Python's not a great place to stop, but it's a great place to start

[dense peak]

he might be talking about rule 6 #📝rules

[tulip quest]

is it self-promotion or advertisement?

greg wanted a tutorial so I found one

[quartz pumice]

Why the fuck is sharing a tutorial video with someone who asked for one advertising

[tulip quest]

well it's definitely not self promotion lmao

[timid field]

One way to reduce errors is to remove them from your life

[tulip quest]

if removing them causes errors, keep removing

if there's no code left, you win!

[young flume]

hehehaw

[balmy vector]

Thank u

[balmy vector]

If there is a problem you can punish me, I did ask for a tutorial.

@tulip quest when I run my code on pycharm it shows the code that has been run but not the the box to code, any advice?

@quartz pumice and so aggressive for no reason 😑

He's helping me I'd say it makes this whole server look great showing that there actually people who can help without being afraid to be criticised like most other servers

but why put a limit on how people choose to be kind?

Js wanted to put that out there, because it's fine if there is someone actually breaking the rules but clearly he's not and some people are js delusional

I'm finished

[tulip quest]

wait, can you see and edit your code but not see what it prints?

[prisma grail]

Pretty sure you aren't in trouble, those two have seemingly just kinda randomly pinged each other in several channels.

[tulip quest]

it was in response to what I sent, though

well, I didn't break any rules and I'd like the discussion to end there. Back to tutorial stuff

@balmy vector if you can't see what's being printed by your code, there's a button to open up a panel with all of it on there

I'm not quite sure what your issue is tho

wait, after reading that again, is the problem more that you can't edit the code or what?

[young flume]

what happening here

[balmy vector]

It's like I'd right " ("hello world") " and run it but once I'd get "hello world" my code place where I wrote " ("hello world") " would disappear.

[balmy vector]

He's helping me code that's what

Also sorry for the long replies my notification are nearly always off

[young flume]

ah nothing wrong then, don't forget to thanks and do your best on learning

[balmy vector]

Thank you for the support

@tulip quest and thank you too

[young flume]

[tulip quest]

Sorry if I took a moment, I didn't want to resort to mobile discord but here we are

[tulip quest]

Seems like you might be coding in the terminal instead of a python file

does where you're coding look more like the top segment or the bottom?

(also ignore discordnuke.py it breaks discord ToS but I never use it, like an actual nuclear weapon)

(please don't get me removed from discord)

[balmy vector]

This disappears

And only the run part shows

[tulip quest]

gimme a sec, I have aussie internet

can't see it yet lol

ok, do you have an actual python file you can access from right above where the window you want should be?

[balmy vector]

Yes

I think

[tulip quest]

if it isn't highlighted like my gametest file, it's not open

[balmy vector]

Hmm

[tulip quest]

Problem solved or no?

[quartz pumice]

😭

[balmy vector]

No ill try later or tmr

I am napping

For the day

[balmy vector]

And u woke me

[quartz pumice]

Sorry

[round fjord]

Wsg

Somebody code the world box screen to say freaky box

[unreal compass]

Amazing idea

[queen zodiac]

code?

that's art

[round fjord]

Idk

Make it a mod or somethjng

Is that possible

Like I'm not actually serious but if somebody does that

That's funny af

[quartz pumice]

I don't have the PC version but if you look in the installation folder there might be the logo that shows up as an image

And you can change the logo there

[round fjord]

Holy cow

[errant trail]

wait

i can probably do that

ill do it

[errant trail]

it seems like the files are protected some how

i did jackshit like i only touched 3 img files

[tulip quest]

well, #🔧modding-talk'll probably have the answer to that

this is meant to be a casual coding discussion channel anyway lol

(not worldbox related)

[errant trail]

no they wont

[tulip quest]

if they don't neither will we

that's what I think

[quartz pumice]

Its checking itself against a hash

I don't know if it's because it has some thing setup so it's APK won't set off any firewalls

Or if it's because .apk is from before https and they decided it needed a way to check itself from some corruption or middleman things
(I'm bullshitting here, you need to find out however the fuck it's checking itself by looking at a spec sheet or something)

[quartz pumice]

lmao you might have to make your own custom APK without whatever security bloat is in there

[errant trail]

bro it havent even run yet

[quartz pumice]

Exactly 🗿

It's probably set up so you cant just modify what's in there willy dilly so you can't give yourself premium or get back the actual source cuz apparently you can do that with stuff made in c#

[quartz pumice]

We are definitely talking about modding it though 😭

[feral bramble]

Use APK easy tool or something like that to decompile an apk, edit stuff in it and recompile

[errant trail]

i literally used that

[feral bramble]

weird

Was able to modify a games code using that

hmm

[feral bramble]

I'm assuming worldbox prob has pretty strong anti piracy measures then

idk

well it certainly prevents using just APK easy tool to do so

[vocal juniper]

You have to sign the app

[errant trail]

pretty sure APK editor signs an app automatically

because i used it before

[quartz pumice]

I dont think thats how it works at all

if you could just modify the application and then sign it exactly the way it used to be....

"Furry Extravaganza Game" - By Microsoft, signed and everything
"Super Secret Hidden BItcoin miner" - By Elon Musk himself, signed and everything

[still bramble]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TwXu4cJ9pCY?si=sPxtP37oU3-_cWpq

Dont program java

[static solar]

Yay code works

^v^

It's not good, but it's a learning experience

[wet girder]

@prisma grail is a very efficient programmer ngl

[prisma grail]

Just another average day of AMP work frfr.

[barren shale]

bruh just pushed 1000 commites at a time

imagine there's a bug in one of these commits

still better than this though X)

this is from 2 years ago

i used to live a dangerous life

[prisma grail]

[prisma grail]

Ok, look, it's genuinely not as bad as it seems. xD

[tawny plover]

can u help me my bepinex "Plugins" folder doesnt exist

this isnt coding but its worldbox modding so help

[tulip quest]

well, there are modding specific channels with people looking for modding questions to answer

I think #🔧modding-talk can help you here, we mostly chill in this channel

[quartz pumice]

This channel the sleeper channel where we sleep together with our keyboards

[errant trail]

ironically the opposite of what we want

in this channel

[errant trail]

what

[prisma grail]

Do I get to show off my mechanical keyboard collection?

[barren shale]

no

[prisma grail]

Come on, it's only like 5 or something that I'd be showing!

[barren shale]

only 5? nah

at least 20 or no

[prisma grail]

Don't have the budget to resonably do that, my main home programming keyboard already costs almost as much as the PC I use there.

[barren shale]

skill issue

[wet girder]

My keyboard cost me like 100€ and it's got scissor switches

Because Imo they're the best switches for typing

Membrane keyboards are not bad either and some mechanical keyboards but most mechanical keyboards feel horrible to type on

[prisma grail]

most mechanical keyboards feel horrible to type on
I'd say that that isn't a good reason to disregard mechanical keyboards as an option, considering just how much freedom of choice about literally everything they provide.

[wet girder]

Yeah I don't disregard it because of that. I just like scissor switches more than any mechanical switches I've tried

[prisma grail]

Ngl, the only thing I really know about using them is that back when Apple tried using them on Macbooks once, they screwed up horribly and the keys kept getting stuck when being pushed down.

[wet girder]

Ig they just implemented them horribly because literally every laptop uses them besides apple

I have a membrane keyboard at work

it's the logitech ergonomic keyboard

at home I use logitech k800

[prisma grail]

You sure? I've only ever seen membrane switches on laptops as far as I can think.

[wet girder]

Ah apparently membranes are also common but higher end use scrissor switches

Been thinking of getting something like this for at home

[prisma grail]

Yeah, split keyboards are pretty great in my opinion.

[wet girder]

I already got used to having my keyboard split with the logitech ergonomic keyboard so it would just add more spacing for my hands to just buy a split keyboard

only problem is none of them seem to have numpad

and I use numpad quite a bit

[prisma grail]

Maybe get a seperate numpad?

[wet girder]

yeah I guess I'd have to

[prisma grail]

I think it's a common thing people genuinely do, also feels like logical when you're already splitting off stuff anyways.

[wet girder]

fair

I used to think split keyboard were stupid but nowadays I want one

also split keyboard are expensive af holy fuck

[prisma grail]

Oh, yeah, have fun finding one below like at least 180€. xD

(Might be misremembering that lower bound, it's been a while since I last looked at prices.)

[wet girder]

I'd really one this one but it's like 400€ shipping + import prices included
https://ergodox-ez.com/

if you're willing to do some soldering and assembling the keyboard yourself you can get a decent split keyboard for like 150€

[young flume]

don't even have a dollar

[prisma grail]

General assembly is something I'm perfectly happy with, I in fact did it with my most recent keyboard to be able to customize the switches to contain heavier springs. Wouldn't want to solder though, I don't have the equipment and I don't have good memories of it from when I was taught about it in school like one single time.

[wet girder]

yeah

[lapis flint]

Ooo

I want it

Thing that i lack and didn't know it is exist

Oh lol, space splitted

And much easier to clean such keyboards i guess

[quartz pumice]

Never used a split keyboard, or seen one with my eyes lol

[wet girder]

I've looked at a lot of split keyboards today and none of the good ones support finnish/swedish layout so it seems if I want to have a split keyboard I'm gonna have to work for it a little

I have the same issue with framework laptops. I want one but they don't support my keyboard layout

For split keyboards people are saying it's fine if the keyboard keycaps don't look correct but has the correct amount of keys, you can just map them

Maybe I could buy new keycaps of even blank ones. I don't look at my keyboard anyway

Just as I complained I found one good one
https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/918706/Keychron-Q11-QMK-VIA-Split-Layout-Fully-Assembled-Knob-75-me?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwydSzBhBOEiwAj0XN4F4HRk3r4YTPQclCBK-NU6Lh62DNhPYmJP1f_EepXFESlcYPdYNkHRoCrc4QAvD_BwE

[coral gorge]

jupe located in coders cave

[wet girder]

Not rare

[wet girder]

I'm just not sure I'm gonna like the switches on this one. They're too loud for my taste and I prefer tactile over linear

Okay the have one with browns

https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/918673/Keychron-Q11-QMK-VIA-Split-Layout-Fully-Assembled-Knob-75-me

Might end up buying this one

[prisma grail]

Personally, I can definitely recommend keychron, I got several of my current keyboards from them.

[graceful cloud]

How about you dweebs code yourself some bicthes instead of being dweeby

[tulip quest]

how about you go touch grass instead of tryna roast people on discord

[wet girder]

The keychron q11 has a massive problem tho. It's completely missing the end key even tho 75% layout typically has it

[wet girder]

Bro doesn't even know what dweeb means or doesn't understand what this chat is

[prisma grail]

Oh, yeah, I think it gives it up in favor of the knob. Maybe try checking for a knob-less version.

[wet girder]

It's so hard to find finnish/swedish layout split keyboards tho. That's the only mechanical one I've found so far

[prisma grail]

Ah, yeah, and I just double checked keychrons site, the Q11 always comes with a knob.

[wet girder]

Yeah...

[prisma grail]

You could bind it to e.g. one of the left hand macro keys, but that'd mess with muscle memory quite horribly.

[wet girder]

I have always had a 100% keyboard so going to a 75% will anyways mess with muscle memory a lot

[prisma grail]

That's fair. I'm checking rn if you could also bind it to pressing down the knob.

Fsr, remapping for knobs is a lot more restrictive than normal keys.

[wet girder]

I don't think that would be that comfortable

[prisma grail]

Fair, but it seems that it'd be an option, based on testing with my Q1 HE.

Generally, the keyboard are incredibly easy to remap by literally just heading on a website like keychron launcher, giving it access to your keyboard, and then selecting what keys should do what.

[errant trail]

anyone uses wine

something something linux that runs exe made for windows

its failing to import dlls

every single one

[barren shale]

yeah

sometimes it works

sometimes it doesnt

[queen zodiac]

Just like you

[barren shale]

exactly

[feral bramble]

Welp looks like you'll have to manually download em?

Thankfully only had to do that for fonts

[errant trail]

no its downloaded

now i need to load it

and its failing

[feral bramble]

aight

[wet girder]

Tried using virtualbox instead of hyper-v today and damn is it janky compared to hyper-v

never again

[quartz pumice]

I tried to use virtmanager but I would run into a undocumented error literally every time I tried to do anything (I spent like 3 hours working off error messages that would just say "xx at xxx.py line 4311.. and a different file every time too lmao) then I installed virtualbox and it worked instantly

on windows its slow as fuck though

[quartz pumice]

dont put it in system32 or path

hased to be at the executable

wine has missed out on the little things since its fuckin inception

its so annoying, and most things they miss are even detailed in microsoft's documentation which is really fucking rare for microsoft to do that

• rant

atleast it works better than a virtual machine

[wet girder]

I fucking hate ubuntu, it's so fucking hard to get a working vm with ubuntu

atleast 22.04

22.04 seems to have a shit ton of bugs when ran in a virtual machine

it's annoying af

[quartz pumice]

debian meanwhile:

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

ubuntu has so much bloat and nothing to show for it lmao, that shit needs more ram than windows

I think ive broken like 4 micro sd's using ubuntu server and my micro sd hasnt stopped working yet running debian. this as on my raspi and I dont rememebr why but I fucking hate raspberry pi os so fuck you raspberry pi os

[barren shale]

i didnt run into ubuntu problems when i used it

but it seemed to have lots of extra stuff

debian is best

[queen zodiac]

@prisma grail you better not be awake

[prisma grail]

Nah, I wasn't, got a grand total 5 hours of sleep now.

[queen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[barren shale]

dementia is coming for you bro

[prisma grail]

IwI

[tulip quest]

of all the channels to put this in, this is the one where you get the most sus

[feral bramble]

ah yes

communlty

[barren shale]

@main crescent not doing your job smh

[queen zodiac]

it already got me. Run away

[quartz pumice]

vulkan-tutorial.com is 1500 lines for a picture

top ten reasnos why vulkan is fucking shit

and anytime you change something you haved to reload EVERYTHING

im so mad

[quartz pumice]

I have 811 lines for a triangle

[orchid frigate]

doing some vulkan rn too

it would be fun if I knew what I was doing and was actually doing the writing myself

but even after checking the specifications writing anything yourself is almost impossible

[quartz pumice]

yeah

its just a fuckin shit library

Its meant for "low level access" but most of it feels made up

I wonder if khronos legitimately just sat down at a big expensive round table and started bullshitting

they didnt even make the sdk themselves

the only sdk they made themselves, opencl sdk, doesnt even fucking work

I really feel like they literally just sat down bullshitted a bunch of shit, wrote a specification and expected everyone to work with it

and theres a bunch of extensions, literally afterthoughts; that you cant do anything without.. not even compute

I can go on a rant about vulkan literally any time of day lmao

and whats worse is that vulkan literally just doesnt work on anything that wasnt explicitly created for vulkan

I keep seeing vulkan drivers in my github feed and they literally emulate almost all of vulkan, to hell with "low overhead"

and theres a history of it too.. uefi v1 didnt even have any full implementations because it was fucking impossible to implement it, microsoft had to change uefi themselves for it to even work

and spir-v is even worse, no wonder theres no good spir-v compilers spirv is fucking bullshit!!!!

if you even glance at the spir-v specifications 😭

spir-v isnt even its own thing its literally just using things from glsl, opencl, and directx at the exact same time!!!

its an entire object format, which is fine I guess but it even has its own bullshit... giving code and compiling it looks far easier than transpiling spirv to whatever the hardware takes

I hope im not making up stuff out of nowhere im so mad

[shut hare]

[edgy flare]

[barren shale]

top 10 reasons to waste time

the first 5 is writing your own engine

[frigid cairn]

Damn straight

The next 5 is making your own computer

Which I did last year as a side project

It’s just a bunch of full adders that connect to a jk flip flop matrix, a calculator that can store results

Still a computer so I win

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/si-va-in-scena-showtime-gif-25817813

[barren shale]

but people dont unironically make their own computer

[frigid cairn]

Oh buddy, you would be oh so surprised

[barren shale]

no i wouldnt

do they use it?

obviously not

[tulip quest]

doesn't matter whether you're talking about premade parts or logic gates, some people do it

[barren shale]

yeah but they dont really use it

its just for the fun

[tulip quest]

Does use for educational content count?

[barren shale]

no

that's for learning

for fun or for learning is allowed

to actually use it as a day to day ccomputer is what i mean by unironically

[tulip quest]

well, it sounded like you meant the normal use of unironically, which would mean you said that they do it for mainly joking reasons

now you've specified, I agree

if it were possible to make a standard computer yourself someone would've done it though

for actual proper uses too

[barren shale]

yeah but that's just a waste of time

just like making your own engine to make a game

[tulip quest]

so is talking with people on discord

[barren shale]

nah if socializing is a waste of time then i do not waste much time

[tulip quest]

you can learn a lot from making a computer

[barren shale]

yes but that's for learning purposes

[tulip quest]

after doing my digital one, I've actually got a few interesting pathways that I could take now

[barren shale]

what im trying to say is that if you make a game engine or computer in that case to use it that's a waste of time

and you are very likely to not finish the game you are making

only valid reason to make an engine is to add features that doesn't exist in other engines

[tulip quest]

and again, it can be a learning experience

there aren't many learning experiences that can't be utilized when you try hard enough

you can make a game without making a full-on engine for it too

(depending on your definition of engine)

[barren shale]

wat the fak

oh i get it now

actually no i dont

[barren shale]

oh i get it now

[feral bramble]

What's the purpose of this

[barren shale]

when it finds the item it breaks out of the first loop which breaks out of the second loop

if it doesnt then it hit the else statmeent which calls continue so it doesnt break out of the second loop

[feral bramble]

ah

So pretty much the outer loop only stops if the array it hits has the item, or exhausts all arrays

[tulip quest]

yep

for-else logic is my favourite

updated version:

[feral bramble]

Ok so now it appends the item it's searching for to whatever that list is should the current item not be found in all the arrays

[tulip quest]

correct

I only made this code because it's searching a nested array, and I didn't want to do any breakCond = False
if breakCond: sorta stuff

someday, I want python to let you add an argument to break to determine how many layers of loops it breaks out of (limited so you can't break directly out of functions without returning ofc)

[prisma grail]

It can be really useful, but I feel like doing it via the else keyword is a pretty bad choice of naming.

[tulip quest]

what other options are there?

it seems like the type of thing to make a new keyword for, but I'm not sure what would suit it

[errant trail]

wtf

unreadable

[tulip quest]

exactly

it's a good thing only I need to read this code later...

[prisma grail]

Yeah, the only intuitive approaches I can think of are ones where you make it so that the block only gets triggered if it did get broken out of.

If that was the case, even leaving the name at else would sound relatively logical.

Can't reasonable do that now though without breaking all code that has already been written in this syntax.

[tulip quest]

I think the reason it's else in the first place is something to do with how a for-loop works

can't confirm this is true, but my guess would be that the check to see whether there's any items left to iterate over can be else'd

while-else is also something you can do, so parity between them makes sense

[prisma grail]

Maybe, idk either tbh.

[fallen siren]

wtf is wrong

[fallen siren]

fixed it

[barren shale]

did i rewrite the raymarching algorithm in another language?

yes, yes i did

C#
C
Rust
and now Gleam

[errant trail]

No one:
Ray (for some reason):

[barren shale]

okeh im done

for some reason it looks wway better than the rust implementation

[queen zodiac]

damn that looks good

[barren shale]

Here's a rotating one

now im done fr

[pliant radish]

Elo

[lapis flint]

Raymarching only useful if you can see endless quality of objects

[fallen siren]

agnes_yes

[barren shale]

true but rendering low res ascii 3d objects with it look awesome

aand also i use it more as a challenge to learn new languages

gleam has no for loops and if statements so that was a decent challenge

took like 3-4 hours to finish completely

[lapis flint]

Ye

[lapis flint]

What

Only goto?

Wait, how without if?

[barren shale]

functional programming goes brrr

no goto

recursion

and switch stsatements with pattern recognition

which doesnt sound very good until you try it

it is very awesome

[lapis flint]

Looks like bad child of js and python

[lapis flint]

Ah

[barren shale]

pub type Object {
  Sphere(id: Int, position: vectors.Vector, radius: Float)
  Ground(id: Int)
}

pub fn distance_to(object: Object, point: vectors.Vector) -> Float {
  case object {
    Sphere(_, position, radius) -> vectors.distance(position, point) -. radius
    Ground(_) -> point.1
  }
}

Vector is a tuple so point.1 is the second item in the tuple

all items are floats in the tuple in this example

also no return statement

you cant early return

only can return at the last line of a function

[lapis flint]

:died:

[barren shale]

trust me its not as bad as it sounds

its actually very fun to write

and its a very safe language too

like rust kinda

[queen zodiac]

good job

[errant trail]

british language

pub

[barren shale]

thank you for this example

i didnt realize i can multi thread it x)

i did it and now its way faster

since its running on the cpu

what am i doing i have an exam tomorrow

[lapis flint]

Good luck

[edgy flare]

Is there a way to instantiate a prefab with an initial velocity in unity?

I want to make a bullet that retains the velocity of the player

[tulip quest]

You might want to try editing the transform of the bullet from whatever script you're using to create it

[edgy flare]

[tulip quest]

what are you using to create the bullet?

[edgy flare]

I’m having the player contain a bullet transform

And when it shoots it goes to the place on the player sprite the transform is

[tulip quest]

my guess is this is 2d then

[edgy flare]

Yes

[tulip quest]

so are you using a script to create a bullet when the player clicks or what?

[edgy flare]

The bullet fires from the place normally, but my player is very fast, and can often catch up with the instantiated bullet

Plus I think it would be interesting to have the bullets speed be influenced by the players speed

Whenever the mouse is down the thing fires

[tulip quest]

the ways I can think of to have the bullet speed influenced by the player are:

1. By setting the bullet to be a child of the player after instantiation
2. By adding player velocity to the bullet's transform through scripting

didn't mean to format the list like that but ok

[edgy flare]

I was thinking about #2

But I only know how to change the velocity of a instantiated object if it is a clone

Im also relatively new, so I dont totally know how to get scripts to interact with each other

[tulip quest]

I don't think it's that different if the instantiated object is a prefab or not

you're still given a handle to the object you created instead of the prefab

[edgy flare]

Hmm, I think I read the unity documentation incorrectly

Thank you

[tulip quest]

no problem, I thought I might've been a little too confusing for a second there lol

I guess not

[errant trail]

you could just

disable collision with the player

[tulip quest]

the problem isn't colliding and stopping the bullet

it's shooting while running, and still leaving the bullet behind

[errant trail]

oh

[barren shale]

Can’t you just add the velocity in the same frame you generate the bullet

Or apply a force that will make the bullet faster than the player at the start

[errant trail]

wtf all of my extensions in vs code just

dissapiered

[fallen siren]

can you see worldbox unit's and traits code?

alex_look

[prisma grail]

This channel isn't WorldBox related, you should ask questions about WorldBox modding in #🔧modding-talk or #🔧modders-bay .

[errant trail]

i love no access

[queen zodiac]

fr

[static solar]

Okay I do not use Unity

But can't you just grab the current Vector velocity of the player and multiply the bullet velocity by it?

Or am I misunderstanding something?

[edgy flare]

I don’t know how scripts interact with each other like that

And since the bullet is a prefab it’s probably more complicated

[static solar]

I don't know what any of these words mean

Wait are you using code?

Or these weird conect things

[edgy flare]

Yes

[static solar]

Alright I just don't know how Unity works qwq

[edgy flare]

There are sprites

And each sprite can have a script

[static solar]

Yeah that I know

I currently just use the MonoGame Framework

And therefore don't know about higher-level stuff

[edgy flare]

But since the bullet does not have the same script as the one that clones it, I can’t use variables from that other script

[static solar]

Can't you pass the method on?

[edgy flare]

Or at least I think

[static solar]

Through a constructor?

[edgy flare]

I don’t know what that is or how to do it

[static solar]

In this scenario I pass on the Game1 method and the variables for the top and bottom sprites

[edgy flare]

Hmm

[static solar]

Oh when you declare a class you can add a constructor as follows

[edgy flare]

I’ll try it

How would you recall it?

[static solar]

class Bullet
{
Vector2 BulletSpeed {get;}
Bullet(float playerSpeed)
{
BulletSpeed = new Vector2(playerSpeed * 2, 0)
}
}

I don't know if that applies to your scenario

But this is what I mean with "passing on the player speed"

You can also alternatively

class Bullet
{
Vector2 BulletSpeed {get;}
Bullet(Player player)
{
BulletSpeed = new Vector2(player.Velocity.X * 2, 0)
}
}```

Pass on the player method

[edgy flare]

I think I should just increase the speed of the projectile

This might make them miss, and this is pretty complicated

[tulip quest]

just so you know, if you have a reference to another script in a script, you can change public variable values of the script you have a reference of

you can get a reference to a script through (object which has the script in it).GetComponent<script name without spaces>(), using the script's name as an argument

or at least, it's along those lines

[edgy flare]

Do I need to set the GameObject as a variable to recall the scripts variable?

Cause that’s what I was trying to do earlier

[tulip quest]

yeah, one thing you can do is bullet = Instantiate(whatever you need to instantiate a copy of the bullet prefab)

and then the bullet variable stores a reference to the bullet prefab copy which you can then use GetComponent on to get a script from it, or you can even grab what you need to directly modify velocity

[edgy flare]

Ok

[tulip quest]

I know it's not the transform, but I can't remember the name of the component you need to grab

I haven't got much experience, but it's enough to help

[edgy flare]

Rigidbody?

[tulip quest]

probably

yeah definitely, I was having doubts because I thought you could probably have velocity without one of those

now that I think about it you probably would have to artificially change the transform of something using scripts to give it velocity without a rigidbody

not recommended

[edgy flare]

I did it

[tulip quest]

nice

[edgy flare]

But now I gotta do the same thing with the player rigidbody

[tulip quest]

oh, what exactly do you need to do to it?

are you just reading the velocity?

[edgy flare]

if(canFire)
{
canFire = false;
GameObject clone;
Rigidbody2D clone2;
clone = Instantiate(bullet, bulletTransform.position, Quaternion.identity);
clone2 = clone.GetComponent<Rigidbody2D>();
clone2.velocity = transform.TransformDirection(new Vector2(player.velocity.x,0));
}

it works, but only when the velocity is positive

is there an abs function

[tulip quest]

I don't think there's one in use

let me look at the docs for a second

[edgy flare]

i think there is

mathf.abs

[tulip quest]

there's an abs function you can use, but I'm not sure if any of the functions you're using use abs on something where they shouldn't

[edgy flare]

im just using it on x velocity

i think it was to do with how i coded the bullet movement

[tulip quest]

ok

[edgy flare]

done

[tulip quest]

that feeling never gets old

[edgy flare]

It only took several days and people helping me

[tulip quest]

did you learn a lot?

programming is one of the fields out there that learning is the most important in

[edgy flare]

yes

[tulip quest]

sir, this is a Wendy's channel for talking about general programming, not worldbox modding

there are channels tailored closer to what you want, though

[fallen siren]

kkkkkkk

[dawn swallow]

so unnecessary

[brave salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-canada-day-gif-9098379

HAPPY CANADA DAY!!! RAHHHHHHH

[errant trail]

roblox

[fallen siren]

I hate website making

[lapis flint]

Why?

[quartz pumice]

is it because of the framework stuff

whenever i make a website I just use python

[fallen siren]

yeah

[barren shale]

bruh

wwhy you making your life hard

if you dont like framework stuff use php or ruby

they dont have lots of frameworks and all of the frameworks are very simillar

[unreal crater]

Hey y’all idk if this is the place to ask this but I’m looking for a good map size mod

[edgy flare]

I think that’s in no access

I somehow can’t send the link to the message

Search “This channel isn't WorldBox related, you should ask questions about WorldBox modding in” in the search bar

I don’t have access to the channel

[quartz pumice]

how am I making my life hard

all im doing is sending html files

maybe proccessing some basic requests

I dont see why I need a framework taht creates 8 virtual machines for that 😭

[robust cliff]

@stoic basalt

[barren shale]

for static websites you just need a cdn

[quartz pumice]

aaa

[barren shale]

so a backend?

api

[quartz pumice]

yea

[barren shale]

that's not a website x)

[quartz pumice]

well it has a frontend that you access through a web browser

[barren shale]

is the frontend static?

[quartz pumice]

yea but theres buttons

and it changes sometimes on whats there

[barren shale]

then python is a pain

[errant trail]

website and website api

dont mix things up

[tulip quest]

sorry bro, try #🔧modding-talk
in here we just chill and talk about general programming stuff instead of things worldbox-related

[feral bramble]

#🔧mods message

[barren shale]

well acktually api is a web service