irl-gear

[jaunty nimbus]

BNVDS

[fallow kindle]

LOL

[plush topaz]

Mf go outside tf you doing in the janitor closet

[timber fog]

Thankfully I haven’t, I don’t hate myself that much

[low zodiac]

@plush topaz

Yeah I overland 😎

[plush topaz]

@low zodiac

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/609451428037310/?mibextid=dXMIcH

[low zodiac]

💀

Honestly bruh it worked really well

Setup time was that of a soft shell RTT and it was basically equally as comfortable lmao

Though I would like a proper sleeping mat

[plush topaz]

Peg down your tarp

Get a rain fly

[low zodiac]

The tent had one but it wasn’t gonna rain

If it did rain I’d be a unhappy camper if the tarp flew off, but it’s pretty thick canvas

My feet would get a little wet too but it’s a small price to pay for being too lazy to set up the tents rainfly

[plush topaz]

Get a 4" sleeping pad

[low zodiac]

I got whatever this is

My dads like 10 year old pad

It wasn’t great but wasn’t terrible

[plush topaz]

Amazing

[low zodiac]

Do you have a RTT?

I can’t remember if you have a clamshell or just luggage boxes up there

[plush topaz]

An RTT would be 6k for me.

Can't be bothered

Plus they're heavy

[marsh flint]

Looks comfy af

Last time I slept in a tent it was like this

Btw savotta makes those @muted gate

Modernized of course

[low zodiac]

Where’s the room for women

[low zodiac]

That looks cozy asf

[plush topaz]

I send them home in an uber

[low zodiac]

[plush topaz]

[low zodiac]

Have you had any issues with wildlife?

[marsh flint]

It is 😌

[low zodiac]

I’ve never camped in grizzly territory before moving here

Or mountain lion

[plush topaz]

Bear, chipmunks, squirrel, and raccoon. Lol

[marsh flint]

Imagine the stove red hot inside

It's very cozy

[low zodiac]

You’re hyping me up for winter camping

[plush topaz]

You ain't winter camping with that setup

[marsh flint]

It's red hot only when very cold. Like -22 F

[muted lynx]

winter camping best camping

[marsh flint]

We call it a strawberry

[low zodiac]

My bag is rated for 15 degrees but i definitely don’t have the gear needed to be outside for long periods of time

…but it also gets to -40 here

So yeah lol

Mostly right

[marsh flint]

Heres a strawberry inside

[plush topaz]

Can you fit a cot in there

[low zodiac]

Idea:

Put the cot on the roof

[plush topaz]

[low zodiac]

And just don’t roll around in your sleep

[plush topaz]

If you put a cot and buddy heater in there

Could be decent

[low zodiac]

Looks so cozy

[marsh flint]

But as I said Savotta makes those too

A bit more modern take

[low zodiac]

I need that whole thing stuffed into my truck 24/7

[marsh flint]

It goes in a very compact size

[muted lynx]

i feel like that would be a bitch to setup every day for one or two people

i hate setting up tents as is lol

[low zodiac]

If softshell people will spend 15 minutes setting their tent up and then 30 leveling it I’ll spend whatever it takes to set that mf up

That’s basically a portable house

Literally nicer than my dorm room rn 💀

[low zodiac]

Sold

[marsh flint]

This was sold in an auction for 700

[low zodiac]

I’m assuming you need like 5 people to set that thing up lol

[marsh flint]

https://youtu.be/4zH54evCHpg?si=Y41SdR71M1WPk0_i

Watch this

[low zodiac]

i NEED weather like that

And homies

[marsh flint]

Basic Finland in winter

[marsh flint]

Haha basic conscripts

The nco asked for a coffee

"now where is my damn coffee"

Or more like "now how long does it take to get the damn coffee"

In special forces like special border jägers (conscripts) they have camps where an officer might say that The tent moves 70 km (45 miles) in the direction of my hand. By skis

Then they take down the tent and ski with full battle gear+tent equipment 70 km in forest typically armpit deep snow

It is actually so much easier to move with skis

Nowadays the gear is also more comfy

That bacpack for example

[marsh flint]

You only need 1. But it takes longer

And that tent is quite big for one person tbh

[low zodiac]

Y’all actually ski around? Like fully kitted?

[marsh flint]

Of course

[proud hazel]

i am not packing that

[low zodiac]

It beats walking lmao

[marsh flint]

Yeah

You can't walk on very deep snow

And If it's not even deep it consumes

some ski to work etc too

[proud hazel]

you would have to tbh

its better then snowshoes

[marsh flint]

We have good skiing trails tbh

One goes by my house

[proud hazel]

i have no doubt we do where i live

you guys should have that shit down pat

but yea i am not packing that big ass tent around

[marsh flint]

Hehe

Sometimes special jägers sleep without a tent

Two guys in one sleeping bag

Fully clothed ofc

[low zodiac]

I’d rather freeze

[marsh flint]

They keep warm

Even though it sounds a bit homo

[proud hazel]

https://litefighter.com/product/litefighter-1-individual-shelter-system/

i use this

[marsh flint]

Fancy

Surprisingly affordable

[proud hazel]

its a bit heavy tbh but i like it a lot

[marsh flint]

Some Pro camper shit costs 10-100x more

[proud hazel]

i got mine as surplus unissued

[marsh flint]

Times

[proud hazel]

i paid $240

[marsh flint]

And is Chinese plastic

[proud hazel]

its even nir compliant

[marsh flint]

Nice

[proud hazel]

sofar i have had it in the rain and wind with no issues

but i need to get the cold weather kit for it so i can use it in the snow

[marsh flint]

Now I want to go camping.

[proud hazel]

i took a week off in oct to go backpacking

[marsh flint]

My friend does 2 week trips to Lapland

[proud hazel]

cant wait

[marsh flint]

On Fjells

[proud hazel]

dude nice

where are you at again

[marsh flint]

Finland

[proud hazel]

oh shit fuck yea

there is some stuff up there i would kill to see

plus you guys make some great axes

[marsh flint]

Haha, I like Fiskars

My old reliable snow shovel is also Fiskars

[proud hazel]

yup they have a great design

i do wish they used ash handles tho

i am not a fan of synthetic handles

[marsh flint]

They used to have wooden

Actually they still do those aswell

https://www.fiskars.com/fi-fi/puutarhanhoito/tuotteet/kirveet-metsatyokalut/norden-retkikirves-n7-ja-terasuojus-setti-1051147?gclid=CjwKCAjw6eWnBhAKEiwADpnw9rdvE1A9SHElyiIFVqaDrgz7SXNDVQvTZnCQsFXjgNh6iW1AIYnnIRoCN-AQAvD_BwE

That would be perfect for camping

[proud hazel]

yes it would

but it also looks hard to replace

[marsh flint]

Also those have been used to solve arguments

[proud hazel]

https://www.amazon.com/Gransfors-Bruk-Ceramic-Grinding-Sharpening/dp/B08LSD3PJL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=gransfors+bruks+hatchet&qid=1694144380&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

[marsh flint]

The Finnish home defense

[proud hazel]

i really want a granfors bruk

[marsh flint]

Yeah looks familiar

[proud hazel]

its made in sweden

[marsh flint]

Yup

Neighbors

They are slightly Gay but tolerable

[proud hazel]

they make some great gear tbh

the also have mora knife

[marsh flint]

Yea

Man of culture I see

[proud hazel]

dude i love my mora

[marsh flint]

Mora is probably the weapon that has involved in more crimes than any other in the nordics

[proud hazel]

shits cheap and razer sharp while being pretty durable

[marsh flint]

Yup

Has always been

They used to have wooden handles aswell.

[proud hazel]

i want to get one of their full tang ones

[marsh flint]

Back in the day

[proud hazel]

still do

[marsh flint]

I remember that we had some veeeery old moras in our school Wood work class

They were sharpened so many times they were basically awls

Still got the jobs done

[proud hazel]

the classic series is dope

[marsh flint]

Yeah

[proud hazel]

i do think for wood i like fallkniven better tho

they are just expensive

[plush topaz]

@marsh flint this is my felling ax

https://www.gransforsbruk.com/en/product/gransfors-small-forest-axe/

[marsh flint]

I have my name engraved in that

[proud hazel]

dude based

[marsh flint]

Nice

[proud hazel]

very nice

[marsh flint]

That is a type of birch

[proud hazel]

yup curly birch

[marsh flint]

Exactly

I've done my own puukko from it

[proud hazel]

that sound fun

i should start making my own knives

this one is made of elmax

[marsh flint]

The wood is so thick and hard that the column drill birch special bit made a screaming noise

[proud hazel]

oh yea i bet

[marsh flint]

It's freaky lol

[proud hazel]

ash and hickery are also very hard

[marsh flint]

But thats what curly birch is

Yeah

[proud hazel]

i have had to work with hickery before it was a pain

[marsh flint]

Actually it is pretty easy. All you need is a column drill or of course it can also be done with a regular (Power) drill

I mean making a knife

[proud hazel]

yea i have the stuff to make them

[marsh flint]

And of course some blacksmith to make you the blade

[proud hazel]

i even have old leaf springs from a truck

just need to make a forge

[marsh flint]

Or if you are badass you make your own haha

[proud hazel]

thats what i would try

i have 5 leaf springs

so plenty of metal to bang on

[marsh flint]

Interesting

Yeah

Not sure what kind of metal alloy they are

[proud hazel]

high carbon spring steel

[marsh flint]

Nice

[proud hazel]

they should make a very nice knife

looks like its probably 5160

[marsh flint]

This is basically all you need

[proud hazel]

yup

i prefer boiled lenseed oil tho

i really just need to try and make the knifes tbh

[proud hazel]

very nice

[marsh flint]

Yea it is what you prefer

I used carnauba wax in one puukko

[proud hazel]

any ways man its getting late here so i am going to sleep

its been great chatting tho

[marsh flint]

The finish is nice matte

[proud hazel]

i like a matte finish

[marsh flint]

Yea see you around!

[low zodiac]

Patch ceiling growing

[magic pendant]

👌

[daring perch]

Epoxy knives; ew... Mechanical fasteners please.

[grand portal]

For a knife that size epoxy would be adequate @daring perch

[marsh flint]

Both of them

You don't want a wiggling knife

[marsh flint]

And a fucking AXE

Not the fucking axe:(

[low zodiac]

it scares women

[marsh flint]

It has to be drilled out

Usually also damages the wheel rim

Not that bad tho....

Some have tried to use a circular saw

[timber fog]

My vote would’ve been for a cutting torch

Can’t be stuck if it’s liquid

[plush topaz]

@fluid root what's that

[storm peak]

Who's getting issued those?

[plush topaz]

Lmao. I was totally not expecting to see a Bob dressed up like that

[marsh flint]

haha

[plush topaz]

Friends of yours?

[naive maple]

i was about to say what does it do that other PCs don't

but fair i guess

i also don't like non-elastic cummerbunds personally, they are hopeless on me (too skinny)

feels like even one that were to fit would bounce around more than a pc with an elastic one anyway

[snow scarab]

my favorite thing to do with NODs

[plush topaz]

What a shot

Wow

[wind cave]

thats awesome

[forest bear]

anybody in the hobby of making homemade NODs? lol

[plush topaz]

Assembling tubes is one thing

But home made?!

Is that a thing

[plush topaz]

[naive maple]

not actual image intensifiers

but homemade digital nv is pretty common

its not good

but its common

[wind cave]

do women and men wear the same plate size in most militaries?

i just saw there are female plates with differnt sizes

[snow scarab]

yeah. just depends on what fits you. although they do make female IOTVs and female plates now, it’s only issued to female infantry

[coarse laurel]

Female IOTV’s are in short supply

[snow scarab]

yeah

i’ve only seen the gen 3 FIOTVs

and that was just during OSUT

[coarse laurel]

Especially in forscom a lot of women still have to wear male IOTV’s with the smallest size

If ur in 18th ABN corps or other units you get the MSV

1st Cav has em now

[snow scarab]

i’m kinda hoping i get issued an MSV for deployment

still gonna bring my SPC

[flint hemlock]

Dont buy steel

[wind cave]

just ordered my 2nd plate

[naive maple]

did you get in a firefight?

[flint hemlock]

Just shot my friend's old plates because he got new ones

[plush topaz]

That anti spall coating peeled off like sunburned skin

[grand portal]

I mean, looks like it did its job...

[flint hemlock]

Spallhala baby

[grand portal]

I don't know enough about body armor to know what that means

[plush topaz]

Yup

Besides your plate is in a rip stop bag covered with pouches etc...

If there was fragmentation it'd catch most of it

And nobody expects to be shot 16 times in the chest lol

[grand portal]

Fr

[outer leaf]

Need suggestions for a good M81 woodland pant (not crye)

[plush topaz]

https://www.optactical.com/pltacdaxmk4c.html

[outer leaf]

They don’t have my size 😭

[plush topaz]

Why not crye?

They're the best

And toughest

[ashen edge]

How did it fair on the first 2 rounds shooting it 7 times and then complaining when the coat peels of is pretty goofy (steel is still doodoo dont get me wrong)

[flint hemlock]

Its the dumb ass logo on the front

The anti spall coating there just sucks

And its a pretty big surface

[remote relic]

On the topic of shooting bullet resistant things me and my boys got hold of a humvee window. 150+ 5.56 and 7.62x39 before a bullet made it through

[plush topaz]

It stops a lot of it.

I've also tested it on old armour in bags

[ashen edge]

Not disputing your testing but I would pose that a looser fabric bight absorb more energy that some that is pulled into a shape over the plate

That isn’t to day that it would have any change on the results

[untold sable]

not exactly gucci but i like the USGI M81 woodland bdu pants

[plush topaz]

Probably yeah

[plush topaz]

The coating seemed to have done its job here

The other sections have like 15 hits in the same spot.

Unless you're being use as a pinyata I don't see that as a realistic test of anti spall

[timber fog]

I’m not going to gamble my life on anti spall

There’s way cooler ways to die

[flint hemlock]

That bit on the corner was only hit with one 5.56

[plush topaz]

And it worked

But if the angle was different there's nothing below to stop it

Therefore steel bad

[full musk]

NWU Type III 😣

[snow scarab]

take a corner hit and it won’t

[plush topaz]

That's what I said

[normal snow]

Was cleaning out my late granddads room n found this lil bad boy

Is this the same one as in-game or some different one?

[grand portal]

Same as

[normal snow]

I see, for the life of me I can't seem to open it

[fair acorn]

I mean the in game one probably has Russian on it instead of English if you are talking about details Otherwise the same thing

[glad steeple]

Dug up a docs case and ssh helmet, soviet era stuff I think

[ashen edge]

the case was used for a long ass time after tehy stoped making them

both are still in service to some degree

[timber fog]

Been meaning to grab me one of those cases myself

Pretty classy stuff by today’s standards

[ashen edge]

indeed

everyone laugh at this guy trying to sell an empty IBA cover as a real vest

[grand mountain]

lol I saw that offer when I was lookin for a PC

[ashen edge]

goofy ass person

[ashen edge]

older video but its very interesting in regards to older equipment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0reF82nweo&

[worthy heart]

I don't understand why people test flack of vests by shooting them

They weren't really made to be bulletproof

[ashen edge]

pistol rounds can simulate fragments to some degree i think that if it can stop rounds its good if not but it can stop something like a .22 then its still good

[worthy heart]

Well that's an easy simple way of thinking for me when it comes to flack gear and plates and all that you really got to think about how much back face deformation is really there

Plus the sheer ability for it to actually hold up and stop rounds

Because saying oh well it handles 9 mm handles 45 good enough

And then they have everything else just zip through it

When nowadays you can get something like that but smaller and thinner and handle way more

It's also kind of like helmets

[ashen edge]

i get that, its still outdated shit from the 80/90's as far as im concerned some protection is better than none

[worthy heart]

In the end, let's be honest here. Most of this gear is probably just going to be sitting in somebody's closet and brought out once in a while for larping

[ashen edge]

your god damn right

i wouldnt trust half the shit i have with my life

[worthy heart]

Nowadays I kind of just look at it from a position of what will actually benefit me

Because I generally try to do all my shooting outdoors and I have to ride or go to my spot

[ashen edge]

i would still rather have it than nothing in a silly SHTF scenerio

[worthy heart]

I generally want to keep everything on me and not have to make multiple trips

So for example like a chest rig for me works perfect because then I can carry all my mags and not have to make more trips

And if I want to shoot competition then the chest rig works for that

Like the more and more I look at SHTF the more and more I just kind of feel like something like that generally isn't going to happen because most people are going to go out there way to prevent something like that and I just don't see the new people of the world really ready for something like that

[ashen edge]

i think if i had to trust any of my gear i would go with my 88s PASGT and my 2005 IBA

i would rather have them then not

if i where to be shot at

[timber fog]

“Some protection is better than none” lol we’re civis, do you expect to be encountering artillery and frags?

[worthy heart]

Like at this point I just kind of look at it as what is less likely going to put me in prison

Because I don't have the greatest self-defense laws here

[timber fog]

The amount it “protects” negates how much weight/space it’s going to take imo

Cool piece for the collection tho

[ashen edge]

no i its just all i got

protection from handguns is not a negligible thing in my eyes as while not as true as it once was handguns/shotguns are still one of the more prolific threats

and while plates are better id rather some broken ribs then a sucking chest wound

[ashen edge]

the PASGT vest yah

still a helmet is uefull for more than frags and bullets

and any chance my brain isnt spayed over the ground is one i'll take

[worthy heart]

I would say get a ACH

[low fox]

Shamk

[worthy heart]

And then cut the helmet to make it a high cut

And then get some hearing protection

[ashen edge]

ive been looking for one

[worthy heart]

I still need to order my rails so I can do the cut

And then I'm going to use my epoxy and paint it over

[ashen edge]

no thanks man id rather not get hit in the ear

i think its up to personal preference but id really rather not

[worthy heart]

The point is so then you can have hearing production on which odds are like what all helmets generally are kind of made for us for shrapnel

You're hearing protection will probably protect your ear

[timber fog]

I mean in this context unless you’re wearing it every time you leave the house I don’t see the practicality, and even if you did daily drive it everyone could see it from a mile away

[worthy heart]

No matter what ear protection or no ear protection you're hearing protection you can wear underneath is getting destroyed

And generally, if you get hit in the head, you're probably dead

There's a reason why helmets are called a brain bucket

[ashen edge]

i would dissagree with this personally but i do get why ear pro is important

[timber fog]

At least it makes cleanup easy

[worthy heart]

I need hearing protection just because my hearing is already getting bad from shooting and working in loud areas

So having a good set of hearing protection that will also help me hear better

[ashen edge]

i also dont like the idea of cutting into protective material

[ashen edge]

understandable

[worthy heart]

Have you seen how those helmets are made?

Because I can tell you cutting the helmets not going to change any of the ballistic performance

Because the helmets are already cut crudely anyway at the factory

ACH helmets and pasgts are made cheap

[ashen edge]

i have i still dislike the idea of permanently modfying equipment and i personally dont like having my ears exposed

[worthy heart]

Original high cuts were made with an angle grinder

Still did very well

[ashen edge]

lol no doubt

[worthy heart]

And again the odds of having your ears hit probably low

It also makes mounting hearing protection easier and if you get good hearing protection it's only going to increase your hearing

[ashen edge]

im sure i can find a way to fit some ear pro in a mid cut helmet

its been done before

[worthy heart]

You can but generally, from what I've heard from some people, it's uncomfortable

[ashen edge]

dont doubt it

[worthy heart]

And again, no matter what you're probably just going to get the same performance with or without the ears

[ashen edge]

for me its a preference thing

[worthy heart]

Because ears are kind of overrated

For long-term use, probably having no ears on it is a good thing

For spinal compression

[ashen edge]

i would just prefer to have the sides of my head covered

[worthy heart]

Aight it's your preference

[timber fog]

I would just prefer to not get shot at or have to compress my spine personally

This post was brought to you by anti-helmet gang

[ashen edge]

as most the high cuts ive seen really only cover a strip over the wearers head and since i shouldnt be theoretically be shot at from above most the time i would like the areas most likely to face the enemy to be covered

[ashen edge]

we can all agree with the first part

[worthy heart]

I used to see a chiropractor a lot and I should probably start going back again

[timber fog]

Shit I need to too, you just reminded me

[worthy heart]

I did a research paper a while ago on the body armor

[timber fog]

My work insurance gives me free chiro sessions

[worthy heart]

Based

[ashen edge]

i was a weird internet nerd who wrote wiki entries on body armor in highschool

[worthy heart]

I had to for a college credit

[timber fog]

Tbf you’re likely not surviving anything more than a ricochet with a helmet. If you get shot directly on the side or on the top you’re doneski

[ashen edge]

then it was a W topic

[ashen edge]

i would still rather have the chance than not

[worthy heart]

It was fun because I already had a basic understanding of how body armor started so I went in to like world war I and then went into the modern kevlar production

[timber fog]

The coverage difference is negligible

[ashen edge]

you see rounds, stop or bounce of helmets at range sometimes as well

[worthy heart]

Let's be honest here if you get hit in the head while you're wearing a helmet, you're either dead or going to be suffering from a huge hematoma

[ashen edge]

i dissagree turning a mid to a high cut removes like %30 of the helmet

[ashen edge]

still rather have a chance then not

[worthy heart]

Most of the hits that people generally survive are front facing hits

Besides generally, don't protect a whole lot anyways ears or no ears

[timber fog]

Banking your life on 2mm of extra coverage >>>

[worthy heart]

And the ears generally are weaker

It really isn't that needed

[timber fog]

I’d rather take the weight reduction/comfort

[worthy heart]

It's more or less that a safety blanket

Because it makes you feel better that you have it

But it really isn't going to do much

[ashen edge]

that makes sense

i honestly hated the padding in the MSA ACH all to me it wasnt very comfy and it was very hot

[worthy heart]

Baseball hat and hearing protection

All you need baby

[ashen edge]

i know its better but in the heat i really appreciate the harness in the PASGT

[worthy heart]

This post was brought to you by baseball hat gang

[timber fog]

This is the way

[ashen edge]

the airflow going through the empty space 😩

[worthy heart]

Just get a team Wendy insert

It gives a decent air flow and is a lot more comfortable

[ashen edge]

when i get my bread up ill def consider it

[worthy heart]

I couldn't stand the stock pads

I need to do this

Buddy of mine just finished his conversion

[timber fog]

I mean unless you have NODs or the balance of a newborn it should be a pretty low priority imo anyways

[worthy heart]

Which he's still working on it

[timber fog]

As a civilian non-combatant, at least

[timber fog]

That seal job lol

Sick shit tho

[worthy heart]

To be honest as a civilian, all you really need is a chest rig because at least you can use that stuff for hiking carrying stuff to a range spot and competition

[worthy heart]

He used JB weld

[timber fog]

Agreed

[ashen edge]

gyat damn

[worthy heart]

For me I have rogue slow setting epoxy

That's what I plan on using because it's supposed to be some very durable stuff

[ashen edge]

sounds like a really cool project

[worthy heart]

I plan on doing it just because I want to go through the process

And I think it's fun

[ashen edge]

i need to get on the project game fr, need a better hobby

[worthy heart]

Am I actually going to use it probably not

Cause it's just larp equipment

[ashen edge]

larping is always fun

im still trying to find a way to get some decent plates in minecraft

prolly just gonna get some on a trip or vacation and bring them back through checked baggage in minecraft

prolly safer to drive

[low fox]

Guys

Dose any of you like war pajamas?

[low fox]

Not me but it's cool

The boots

I wanna do a alpine larp.one day

[plush topaz]

The boys

[plush topaz]

Psd for whomst

[timber fog]

Guy on the right looks like that dude Hasanabi lol

[low fox]

Syria shenanigans

[naive maple]

i hate

safarilands

and belt hangers

why is this so hard

looks like i have to buy a qls system in addition to all the other trash to get the cant i want

im tired of accumulating holster trash

[plush topaz]

It's true. It never ends

[grand mountain]

Yes

for the same reason that I'm making sure my hunting jacket and survival blanket has NIR on it

you uh

never know when those deer are running thermals or nods

[grand mountain]

love that guy i kinda wanna get some of his tats done

[plush topaz]

I'm getting one of the racoons with my offroad club

[snow scarab]

i mean, the entire point of the 2A is protection and regulation of the government

[timber fog]

That’s different. Thermal occlusion and NIR compliance are actually practical

[timber fog]

Then if you’re going to do that, do it seriously and practically

Don’t just get an old flak vest and slap it with the ol’ “good enuf”

[snow scarab]

yes. by buying stuff like helmets, body armor, hearing protection

[grand mountain]

Btw

Where do yall buy real ballistic trauma plates?

[snow scarab]

highcom, hoplite, apex armor solution

if you are american

[grand mountain]

any one in specific

or just

pick one

[snow scarab]

pick one

all of them are reputable

[grand mountain]

Looking at highcom rn. Looks good

need to pick plates

[snow scarab]

highcom might be a little weird. apexarmorsolutions might be best. they sell highcom plates and LTC plates

the two most reputable brands

[grand mountain]

For sure

I plan to get a crye CPC for airsoft/milsim

which is nice both bc I have lower back pain and the CPC is a very structural load bearing vest so it'll lighten the load

And because I'm a prepper and that'll be fine to run real plates too

prolly gonna get level 4s

[grand mountain]

Yeah, but I know a guy selling a part of the CPC harness for a discounted price

rather, is selling the harness for a significant discount

[real sigil]

just get like an avs or an arc v2 from axl

i love the cpc as much as anyone, but its really wasted for airsoft usage

[grand mountain]

im doing more than airsoft

[real sigil]

even then

its a very specialized piece of kit

i would be surprised if an avs or arc v2 didnt do what you needed it to do better

its a modification of the avs, its designed to be better at weight bearing, but at the cost of being more complex, expensive and bulky

for the 99.9% end user its not well suited

[grand mountain]

cool

[real sigil]

im just saying

not trying to judge or rain on your parade

[grand mountain]

i just get annoyed at unsolicited advice for personal reasons

you're fine

But like I said the CPC is great at weight bearing and I have lower back problems. Since I'm gonna get it at a significant discount, I see no reason not to even if it's still a bit of a markup from say an AVS

[real sigil]

i guess the biggest issue is that it costs more, but that doesnt apply to you

[grand mountain]

no it totally does

[real sigil]

it is really cool and i envy

[grand mountain]

this is a long term goal

i am not rich by any means lmfao

Even at this pretty sizeable discount, I'm still having to save for it

I just reckon it's worth it bc again I'm a prepper, and it's designed to reduce weight strain (which is what makes my back pain flare up the most)

[real sigil]

I mean i gotta save up too for stuff i want

i wish money was no issue for me, as much as i try to act like it isnt to my friends

[grand mountain]

yeahh.. wish i couldve been born rich

[real sigil]

who doesnt

[grand mountain]

id already have a cpc, fast helmet, crye g3s, fuckin

get a Mk18

[grand mountain]

honestly, jokes aside, me

[real sigil]

why not

[grand mountain]

Because I'd rather have my humanity than piles of money

[real sigil]

imagine being born with no stresses in life and everything you want put in front of you the moment you ask for it

[grand mountain]

Then I wouldn't be who I am

[real sigil]

it doesnt stop you from being a good person

[grand mountain]

And I like being me

[real sigil]

fair enough

[ancient grail]

What part of the cpc is complex

[foggy sedge]

RMA has good plates. Their 1155 IV plates NIJ certification just got revoked, but it’s good armor for cheap, If you can’t afford highcom.

[real sigil]

The fact that it's hotter, bulkier, and probably more than you need

And while the avs can be scaled down to be lighter and more minimalist if needed, the cpc cannot do that

CPC is not really a plate carrier, it's an armor carrier more like the iotv, it's meant to load weight(like the avs) but also carry more protection

[plush topaz]

What

An armour carrier?

And that's different than a plate carrier?

[fair acorn]

What kinds of armour are you trying to carry? Are you trying to attach kontact 5?

[real sigil]

Paraphrasing how it was explained to me, again think of iotv vests

Holds soft armor all over, and can take hard plates or soft plates in the front and rear

CPC is to a lesser extent, but to a similar effect

[plush topaz]

Oh

[real sigil]

You're supposed to use side armor and maybe even shoulder armor with the cpc

That's when the load bearing ability of the CPC becomes more apparent, on top of carrying like ammo, radio(s) etc

Really neat system, but most people aren't loading their stuff up to the gills like that

[fair acorn]

Average FSB enjoyer

[ashen edge]

I LOVE OUTDATED MEDIOCRE KIT!!!!!!!

this is not a joke

[fair acorn]

I love heavy ass kit
motivates me to go work out👍

[ashen edge]

i wear a 6b23-1 with plates and helmet when i larp at my local airsoft field in the hope that 4 hours of moderate cardio can account for a month of sedentary food service lifestyle

[fair acorn]

Average airsoft gamers work out routine 💪

[ashen edge]

ong

least im not 300 lbs wearing a micro rig for "mobility"

[fair acorn]

American airsoft gamers

[ashen edge]

my field is in the country so "plus size" airsofters are common

[fair acorn]

I have seen FSB larper wearing 40kg of gears to the local airsoft field and leave half an hour later

[ashen edge]

aint no way

[fair acorn]

That is in China Guangzhou tho

I live in Hong Kong

[ashen edge]

ah

the steriotype of cringe airsoft guy here is the 300lbs micro rig wearer, is there an equivalent at your field/area?

like the dude you look at and go "now THATS an airsofter"

[fair acorn]

Middle age man wearing camo pants and camo bags for Hong Kong

Not sure for mainland China. I haven't been play there lately

[fair acorn]

I feel like they are getting the vibe of Hong Kong briish army in the 70s~80s

[ashen edge]

huh

thats really cool

thank you for sharing

[fair acorn]

Thing about Chinese thought
They own a lot of crazy expensive gear and they actually only use it for larping in like anime expo and stuff
Rarely seen one in use in airsoft games
They are basically collector and each has their personal museum of gears

[real sigil]

are country folk really bigger? I feel like rotund people were not uncommon when I lived in NY

[naive maple]

everyone in america is fat but rural america is a step beyond

https://americanmind.org/salvo/between-suicide-and-murder-part-two/

The inescapable presence of obesity in this part of America is hard to overstate. When I arrived in Texas, I chose to eat barbecue in El Paso for my only meal in over 24 hours. At the restaurant, I lost my appetite on first sight. Without any joy the clientele swallowed massive portions, as though any chewing or tasting were the mere inconveniences of food.

I would have recovered had this been only an unlucky encounter but, on the contrary, much further exploration showed the entire population in this region of America to be comprehensively, terminally fat.

[real sigil]

i mean thats fine

tbh

america is a land flowing with natural resources abudant with enough for everyone

[ashen edge]

country for NY there are some seriosly large lads ive never met anyone as large as these people and any that i did where in their 50's or someones grandpa

[real sigil]

but if you're not fit, you're gonna die

so all of that stuff is mine if you do

[ancient grail]

Actually this isn't the fsb👆🤓

[real sigil]

russian sf try not to use eotech challenge

difficulty insane

[ancient grail]

Return too 2010 fsb kits

All black and blue defenders

[ashen edge]

I love free xxl jpc’s

[real sigil]

xxs

[ashen edge]

Just gotta clean all the decaying blubber off it

[real sigil]

soak it in semi caustic solution all the fat turns to soad

double usage

[ancient grail]

🔥🔥

Free size 44 cryes

[ashen edge]

💀

Fr tho country folk here tend to be fat as the nearest supermarket only sell stuff packed with sugar and complex fats

[timber fog]

I love food deserts!

[ashen edge]

Me when my place of residence dooms me to obesity and malnutrition

[ancient grail]

If I see a mf with black cryes I'm stealing them

I still need them in my size😈

[ashen edge]

Based

[ancient grail]

Need muh cosplay kit to be finished

[ashen edge]

Not sure if I’ve already said this but turns about a size large vest/carrier will fit me when adjusted smaller

Least an IBA will shame it doesn’t hold medium plates well tho

Or I don’t know how to insert them

[ancient grail]

I mean large carriers still fit me

I just need medium plates

[ashen edge]

There’s a securing strap in the pouch that sofar I have been unable figure out

[ancient grail]

Avs project

[ashen edge]

And I haven’t been able to find a manual online

[ancient grail]

I've basically designed a smaller cpc

[ashen edge]

Nice

I want to get some surplus pouches for my IBA

The only place I’ve been able to find them under 20 bucks is Amazon

[real sigil]

I want an avs

and get some axl stuff for it

would be slick af

[foggy sedge]

Y’all buying actual gear or just air soft stuff

[ancient grail]

Personally I enjoy my replica crye

[real sigil]

i buy real stuff, although i don't own anything particularly pricey

[real sigil]

10/10 toe

truly a toe of all time

[ashen edge]

My b misread that

[ashen edge]

Depends on the item newer stuff is easier to get as replicas while older stuff is easier to get as surplus

[naive maple]

just please say its not a replica radio

[foggy sedge]

I hope the TQ isn’t replica 😭

[foggy sedge]

You get armor too or nah

[ancient grail]

Everything I own is fake

[naive maple]

[ancient grail]

Even the tq😈🙏

[naive maple]

[foggy sedge]

😭

I’ve spent $1400 this month on gear 😭💀

[ancient grail]

All repro

[foggy sedge]

There’s like no airsoft places near me so I can’t even have fun like y’all

[naive maple]

go to a range and shoot real guns instead

[ancient grail]

This one unironically repro because im not spending crye retail prices on cosplay

[foggy sedge]

I do but they kick me out after an hour, and get pissy if you shoot too fast or draw from the holster

[real sigil]

ye

[ashen edge]

Boafang supremacy

[naive maple]

garbage range

find a new one

[real sigil]

actually

boafeng bad

buy retevis rt85

[foggy sedge]

Fr. The other one is like 50 minutes away that is way better

[real sigil]

better at the same price

[ancient grail]

Baofengs are ok for airsoft

Everyone uses one

[naive maple]

worth it

[real sigil]

but retevis rt85 better

for the same price

[naive maple]

what is trhat?

[real sigil]

radio

[naive maple]

yeah but like in detail

non-chinese?

i need to be schooled on radios, my radio knowledge is almost nonexistent

[ashen edge]

I’m doing a unnamed war kit so the baofang is accurate already got my designated baofang pouch

[naive maple]

i know VHF and UHF

[ancient grail]

Shooting other mfs > range day

[naive maple]

that's it

[foggy sedge]

My body armor in total is 20 pounds 😭

[real sigil]

basically a boafeng, but with good qc, and not outspec to the point where it could be illegal

[naive maple]

laaaaame

[real sigil]

issue with boafeng is how much they can vary seller to seller

[naive maple]

i like it when the secret ingredient is crime

[ashen edge]

How XD

[naive maple]

(in minecraft, feds)

[real sigil]

well its illegal, but not in a good way

[foggy sedge]

2, level IV plates that weigh 8 pounds and a 4 pound IIIA vest

[real sigil]

its like driving an improperly maintained car on the highway

knowly

[ashen edge]

That math doesn’t work

That would be 12 lbs

[foggy sedge]

8+8+4

[ashen edge]

Oh for each

My b

[foggy sedge]

Yeah

[ashen edge]

I used to have a pair of lvl 3 ECBA heart plates (9x6) that weight a similar amount

Old as fuck

[real sigil]

also also, if you really want to be illegal but do cool guy shit

buy an ef johnson 5100es

and do aes encryption

[naive maple]

i dont actually want to do anything illegal on the airwaves

but i want a programmable software defined radio that hasnt been nannystated to death

[real sigil]

i have heard people do it

super fucking ballsy

cause it requires good knowledge, to the point that whoever is doing it knows its illegal

[foggy sedge]

These plates are FRESH. Made first of this month

[ashen edge]

Sheeeesh

[real sigil]

honestly rma is kinda gods gift to the earth

[foggy sedge]

For real

[real sigil]

american made quality armor available to even poors

[foggy sedge]

Them shits be heavy, but can’t be beat for the price

[real sigil]

honestly, not even that heavy tho

its a reasonable weight

[foggy sedge]

Can be if you gotta wear em 8 hours a day

[ashen edge]

I feel like they are like a strike face plate made in the US with actual QC

like they can work

But it depends on the Chinese manufacturer

[foggy sedge]

You see their NIJ cert got revoked for the single curve 1155

[ashen edge]

Still RMA is better

Most Chinese plates when real are either steel lvl3 or industrial ceramic lvl 4

[foggy sedge]

All you need is some $30 wish armor plates Fr

[ashen edge]

Very hard but easier to crack

[ashen edge]

I saw a Russian soldiers review on a pair of $50 Chinese plates on aliexpress

[foggy sedge]

Some of them actually stopped some handgun calibers lol. Had a fuck ton of back face deformation but still

[ashen edge]

I’ve seen some that have the advertised armor value

But they are to prone to fakes that the point is mute

[foggy sedge]

“Haven’t tested them yet but I guess we will see”- $30 wish body armor review

[ashen edge]

Litterally

[foggy sedge]

If you’re buying body armor on wish, you deserve to be shot Fr

[ashen edge]

I watched some Russian gun tuber do something on them and while he was surprised they worked he wasn’t stupid and said don’t buy this shit

[foggy sedge]

I love watching YouTubers destroy body armor lol

[ashen edge]

Admittedly he did somehow manage to give himself scope bite with AT4 iron sights

So intelligence is still up in the air

[foggy sedge]

I miss FPSrussia

[naive maple]

we dont have RMA here

we have protection group danmark

https://protectiongroupdenmark.com/shop/6-hard-armor/19-esapi-plate--nij-level-4-iv--pgd-u-line/

[ashen edge]

I found some actual Russian dude who just reviews rocket systems and there’s valgear who is a foreign volunteer in UA who does the same and other things with a much lower budget in English

He just posted a review of the 1974 tantal under-barrel made launchers

[snow scarab]

no it’s heavy lol

[real sigil]

compared to like

steel?

or shitty china armor

i would disagree

given there is no other good alternative at that price if you want level 4

[snow scarab]

compared to modern ceramics

compared to steel armor it’s light

[snow scarab]

literally highcom

1 lb lighter per plate and multicurve for 50 bucks more in total

[real sigil]

well of course compared to modern ceramics

[snow scarab]

6x8 side plates and medium front and back plates weigh about 14 lbs in total

[real sigil]

consider that 50 buck more per plate is 33% more expensive

rma plates cost like

150

[real sigil]

and can be had for even less

[snow scarab]

rma also isn’t very trust worthy

they invented the cheat ring

[real sigil]

what?

they are still nij compliant

[snow scarab]

buy highcom, LTC or tencate

not anymore

and the cheat ring was an inch of foam they used to put around their plates to get full size. so it would be a 10x12 but only protect an 8x10

anyways my surplus ESAPIs are better than the RMAs

5.3 lbs per plate, meet lvl 4

stand-alone

[real sigil]

i mean you understand even then

150< per plate is like

that price point appeals to people who use steel

which practically provides no protection

people who tend to buy that cheap are gonna be penny pinching for 20$ let alone 50$ per plate

if you don't see the appeal in that, the product isnt meant for you

i would never buy a set of rmas either

but for reasons, they are considerable for some

[ashen edge]

I think there should always be a option for low priced usable armor and equipment price should never completely prohibit protection/access to it

[timber fog]

I agree but at the same time when you’re dealing with your life you can’t cheap out or cut corners on certain subjects

[snow scarab]

?

[foggy sedge]

I use a IIIA vest that fits RMA plates inside it so I feel confident with those plates combined with the 3A

[snow scarab]

ah lol

[ashen edge]

Bingo

[ashen edge]

Based soft armor enjoyer

[foggy sedge]

It’s only because it’s gotta be concealed 😩

Plate carriers are “intimidating”

[ashen edge]

I like the idea of soft armor better as at least where I live most people getting shot are getting hit with handguns and soft armor offer better coverage

[ashen edge]

“Shoot me first”

Thats also why I think open carry EDC is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard of for the average person

[foggy sedge]

Open carry for work, concealed for off the clock always

[ashen edge]

I get intrusive thoughts when I see a cops gun some fat as name randy doesn’t stand a chance I’m taking that bitch (this is a joke I am not a thief)

This is in regards to open carry civilians

[foggy sedge]

Take the officers gun so you can see what caliber he is running

[ashen edge]

Ong pop his mag for free ammo

[foggy sedge]

Or when they don’t even have a level 3 retention holster and they open carry

[ashen edge]

Me looking at the open carry grey man’s gun in the Walmart

Shit

No gifs

🤤

I feel that sums it up

[foggy sedge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Nki9Ik_e1xc?feature=shared firearms instructor just walks up to a security guard and snatches his gun lmao

[timber fog]

Lol

That one showed up in my feed too

Good lesson, shame the dude didn’t wanna learn it

[dire ridge]

nah, best radio. youre just gatekeeping. peng peng numbah wan

[real sigil]

Peng Peng emit unhealthy levels of harmonic radiation

[dire ridge]

harmonic radiation strengthen your chromosomes

[real sigil]

My chromosomes so strong my son will be born with an extra

[dire ridge]

bruh

[real sigil]

Damn, you just like my son

[muted gate]

dont walk up to a dude and just grab his shit

[timber fog]

Well no shit

I wasn’t talking about the teaching method

I was talking about the result

Dude should’ve learned his lesson instead of being stubborn

[muted gate]

nah, id be just as pissed as that dude if someone walked up to me, then proceeded to grab my shit, then go "its okay, im an instructor"

like yeah, dude will prolly reevaluate some shit when he gets home, but fuck that guy

[coarse laurel]

It’s a good way to get shot

[muted gate]

well technically he cant if he has his gun

[coarse laurel]

You can’t really forsee how they would react

An elbow to the face maybe

[timber fog]

Here’s an idea then

Don’t be like that guy

[plush topaz]

@muted gate prolly staged anyways

[muted gate]

idk, idc, its a stupid fuckin video either way

[plush topaz]

Ya

[coarse laurel]

Lol also Blackhawk Serpa ☠️

[muted gate]

guy using a serpa is an idiot

but the "instructor" who grabs his shit is an even bigger moron

[coarse laurel]

Aside from a negligent discharge waiting to happen it’s so easy to get your shit stolen

[coarse laurel]

Lol exactly, personal space and all that

[muted gate]

FUCK ALL MY PHOTOS ARE ON MY OTHER PC

FUUUUUUCK

i hate getting a new pc

photoshop isnt on here, my video shit, all my photos are on my drive somewhere

[coarse laurel]

If I had someone invade my personal space like that instructor or not I’d still beat their ass

[grand mountain]

It's just america

clothing sizes are, on average, bigger in America than other countries
Everything has HFCS rather than sugar in it (HFCS is extremely fatty and unhealthy) because corn is subsidized by the government (even gasoline is made with corn here)
The country has shitty preventative healthcare

Doctors in america don't manage illnesses, they manage symptoms

[muted gate]

americans have always been bigger statistically

the availability of a "healthy" diet for the past 150 years has done wonders

[snow scarab]

americans, australians, and brit’s (or just the british isles and ireland in general) are known for being bigger human beings. that’s just been a thing forever

[muted gate]

one common thread of a comment during the first and second ww was the commentary by the french about how massive the americans were in stature and build

Corn fed mofos arriving to malnutritioned and worn out troops exacerbated the divide, but it has always been there

[naive maple]

i give up

piece of shit forward canted safariland trash

no amount of hangers and adapters will make this work

[naive maple]

POS

best i can do after forcing it into a hole pattern that doesnt really fit

[snow scarab]

what problem are you having?

[naive maple]

the massive forward cant

i got rid of it finally but it was a ballache and took not one but two additional products

[snow scarab]

wdym?

[naive maple]

why they wouldnt make a duty holster neutral drop is beyond me

[snow scarab]

most safarilands are neutral. you might’ve gotten a defect

[plush topaz]

@naive maple whats going on man

Can You not find the right model?

[naive maple]

bruh

[marsh flint]

I actually like safarilands

[naive maple]

it turns out i need YETA NOTHER gadget to get it the way i want

https://black-box-customs-us.myshopify.com/products/black-box-customs-ncp3-negative-cant-plate-version-3

[harsh crown]

by "bigger" do you mean american bigger (morbid or worse obesity) or just taller

[snow scarab]

i mean statistically larger. taller, wider, more muscle, wider shoulders, easier at gaining muscle mass

[plush topaz]

You're the biggest larper in this entire chat

I love it

[low fox]

One must imagine stalking the zone

[timber fog]

Get out of here sdalger

[echo jay]

wtf

no mousepad AND no mouse space

[full flower]

nahdont judge thats peak setup right there

Used to dominate in d2 with this setup lol

[small isle]

Based

[marsh flint]

[marsh flint]

💀

[spiral glacier]

Built a ghillie

[unborn bramble]

Uncertainty

Needs higher res and application before final judgement.

[inland brook]

Not really a gear but just wanted to show

[naive maple]

i like it, they're fun

where's your glock

[snow scarab]

nice shitty ear pro

[plush topaz]

Doesn't work well?

[snow scarab]

not at all. it’s the russian GSSHs

[plush topaz]

Damn

[muted gate]

i need a pair tho

[flint hemlock]

Cool, i bought them for my russian gear collection

[plush topaz]

I think they look cool

[dense ginkgo]

cool, bit i didn't know they were poor quality

Perhaps there is some similarity between stats and irl in this game?

[muted gate]

They arent bad. They just arent comtacs from what I hear

[tropic rampart]

Anybody know a cheap way to get a real pvs-14?

[coarse laurel]

Get the parts kit and build it yourself

Might save a few hundred

[tropic rampart]

Ok

[digital tiger]

Cheap and NV don’t really go together.

[digital tiger]

This could work.

[lament plover]

Where’d you get the labs case?

[plush topaz]

From labs bro.

Tf you think

[lament plover]

[plush topaz]

In seriousness it's probably just a sticker

[lament plover]

Hm alright

[meager isle]

It's on amazon for like $60

The whole case w/ cards, vaseline, golden star balm, and physical btc

[kindred delta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxd7Jc-HcGM

can anyone identify this LAM

nevermind found it mk3

[timber cargo]

Britain just spent all that money on their bullpup just to buy an AR-15 derivative

[ashen edge]

Ong

[plush topaz]

Cheaper than any alternative at the time

[timber cargo]

What, the sa80?

[plush topaz]

Modernizing and upgrading it yes

Procurement takes eons and a ton of shekels

[muted gate]

the other main problem the MOD is running into is that the recievers are old as fuck

[timber cargo]

The l85 unit cost alone was atrocious, at 1300 a piece, then 400 for the upgrade

[muted gate]

so if you are going to buy more A3s, why not just Buy ARs

and it also helps that ARs are prevalent enough that the swap isnt as bad as people think

[plush topaz]

May seem pricey

But the infrastructure was already there

A new procurement needs a lot more than just a gun

Training. Staff. Parts. Service.

[timber cargo]

The thing is, it wasn't, they sent it to H&K because their facility could only produce 20 parts of the 230 or so

The people they had working on it had never worked on guns before, I think it was 'not' something or other

Nottin

[plush topaz]

I'm saying, the rifle was well established

It's been in service since what. The 80's?

[timber cargo]

As a piece of garbage

[plush topaz]

Indeed

[timber cargo]

I would've gone the Australian route and gotten a deal with those Austrian fellows

[plush topaz]

Why don't we put you in charge

[tepid ingot]

Anyone got the dimensions for tagillas mask? Planning to laser cut one but I can't find measurements. Can Anybody help?

[grand mountain]

I have a welding hood

Not tagillas but it's a welding hood

Not the same as in game but similar

[tepid ingot]

Ah, just looking for dimensions because the one that gillas is based off is stamped and riveted together

Has anyone got an exact replica that they could measure out for me?

[grand mountain]

Send pic

[tepid ingot]

Not painted but is the closest I found to the real thing online

Also I think this is a different material than the one in game

[quaint harness]

Nope. That’s the right material

Paint it black!

[tepid ingot]

Also I'm planning on just making a replica for paintball/airsoft, just thought I'd ask here if anyone had one that they could measure out

[tepid ingot]

I don't have one at the moment, this is one I found online. I'm just asking if anyone has measurements for it to laser cut a replica

Whole reason I'm not buying one is because
A: all the ones I found are really expensive or made of "fireproof cardboard" which wouldn't stop a bb or paintball
B: all the cheap ones ship from Ukraine, meaning expensive shipping and having to wait a month or 2

[quaint harness]

So, tagilla’s mask is made from fireproof cardboard. Are you trying to get a 3d printed clone?

[plush topaz]

Curious how you'd have dimensions of a video game mask

[muted gate]

Antique welders masks arent that expensive

[severe rover]

Also going to be pretty tough to use in a match lol

[grand mountain]

@tepid ingot i have one of these.

Want the measurements?

https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/s6thdp/cheapest_irl_in_tarkov0_cost_handmade_tagillas/

[tepid ingot]

Oh I know about that, just can't print a2

[tepid ingot]

Halloween game mode 🤪

[digital tiger]

Do any of you have a picture of kryptek "raid" under NV? i'm curious..

[severe rover]

On the bright side, they'll never get blinded by a flashlight