irl-weapons

[golden marlin]

Like a buddy of mine who shoots a lot of competitions. He was trying it out and I think he said he was somewhere over 5K and he decided to swap back to his 47

Because he just can't get behind the Gen 6. It just changes too much and adds too many features that he's just not a fan of

[true mist]

tbf the 47 is just peak

[golden marlin]

Like the only thing I do like about the Gen 6 is the new mounting plate and the texture

[true mist]

texture is a big one

[golden marlin]

I think the mounting plate and texture is a big upgrade

The beavertail system change I don't like

I'm already running a medium-sized grip anyways on my 17

So I do really like that length of pull

I just don't see myself getting that same length of pull with a new gen 6

I'm not against trying a Gen 6 out but I don't see myself getting behind it

[true mist]

i dont love MOS and the older gens definitely need grip tape or similar, but everything else i really do love about my glock

there isnt a single thing id change about my gun right now for both competition or carry

[true mist]

ive seen people say that large on the gen 6 is similar to med on the gen 5

[lone moss]

I’m not a glock fan to begin with so I like that this is different it doesn’t feel like a glock, it feels new

[true mist]

i get that

i wasnt a glock fan for a long time

[lone moss]

I’m used to a high beaver due to sigs so this just is so yes to me

[golden marlin]

I don't know about that. I'd have to try it but it looks like they just went with your classic standard palm swell grip

[lone moss]

I really really like it

[golden marlin]

In those again, just dig more into my hand

Than it would for your classic extensions

[true mist]

yea not my personal experience so im putting zero weight behind it

[true mist]

my first actual shooting experience was with a police-funded youth pistol team, so everything we did was on the P320, it took me a long time to come around to the glock

[golden marlin]

Very fair. I don't know. We'll see if Glock ever decides to offer anything more for the Gen 5

[true mist]

i hated them until i decided to just buy one and learn how to use it

[golden marlin]

Seeing how they've already done those changes before

Though that was also due to politics

[true mist]

yeah i appreciate that gen v existed all of 6 months before being essentially forgotten

gen 5 was a winner and itll be a long time before i want anything different out of a glock

ill have to see how my setup holds up and if i eventually get sick of MOS

but for now i dont have a tangible complaint

well, actually i do wish the glock performance trigger was better

[lone moss]

The p320 shooting wise is actually pretty darn good a little high on the bore axis but the trigger and grip are a1 imo

[true mist]

i like it a lot when its cleaned and lubed, but at or around 1k rounds it gets gummed up and doesnt feel right

ive completely fucked a stage before from my trigger being filthy

[true mist]

getting used to a glock makes it hard to go back, but i really did enjoy the P320 especially as a newer shooter

not really looking forward to if i make it to patrol and have to get used to it again

[lone moss]

Fair enough

[round sentinel]

Damn. Seb muted

@timid belfry y’all really need to fix the bot so it doesn’t auto mute people here when we post a photo lineup

Kek

[golden marlin]

Get rid of the bot

[round sentinel]

Frfr oomfie

[golden marlin]

I literally just posted my recent lineup now

And I get muted

[timid belfry]

!unmute 359693066065543169

[river onyx]

✅ Unmuted seb1999 (Case #205727)

[timid belfry]

That’s above my pay grade

@vast isle

[golden marlin]

I hate this bot

GOD

[round sentinel]

It really is super ass

[edgy kestrel]

😂

[round sentinel]

again

[edgy kestrel]

Instantly muted again

[round sentinel]

[vast isle]

Just post 3 pictures, wait literally one second, post 3

[edgy kestrel]

Geez

[vast isle]

don't be a bot

[round sentinel]

Hear me out

[vast isle]

Just do it

[round sentinel]

Just remove the restriction here

[vast isle]

No

[round sentinel]

That’s gay

[edgy kestrel]

Buns

[vast isle]

It gets all the bots that post the stupid mr beast pictures

[round sentinel]

We get punished for the bot posts that get posted anyways

[vast isle]

It hasn't posted here since we added teh filter

[edgy kestrel]

It has upsides and downsides. Unfortunately the downsides outweigh the positive (muting when a large sum of images is posted)

[round sentinel]

Which is comedy since 4 pics of guns isn’t a lot

[edgy kestrel]

Exactly

I need me one of these rat city arms piss 90s

[vast isle]

Looks the part

[golden marlin]

[true mist]

once i got my reply removed for spam because i went very deep autism into the options someone had for their AK setup whoops

[round sentinel]

‘Just don’t tism bro’

[true mist]

at least it didnt mute me

[lunar marsh]

I’m just here to waiting for that guys cat to get out of his lap so he can post his guns

That dog move yet? We wanna see some guns

[true mist]

thank you "rat hole stretcher" for the insightful commentary followed by refusing to post your guns

[round sentinel]

Also

I’m projecting 😌

[true mist]

maybe its just like, a really big dog

and he cant get up

rat hole stretcher actually died under his dog, his finger inches away from posting his gun collection

[blazing temple]

Man got sat on by the dog from sandlot

[true mist]

bro beefing with clifford

[blazing temple]

😍

[carmine tide]

Literally all you own is a taurus g3

[edgy portal]

a taurus? cmon

[lunar marsh]

When you gonna post the not bull shit builds?

[edgy portal]

here

[carmine tide]

What in the evidence locker

[edgy portal]

critique my m4

[edgy portal]

waiting

[carmine tide]

Elastic sling, non ambi safety selector, non QD optic mount

[edgy portal]

it is ambi

optic lives there

[golden marlin]

Are you not noticing the ball crusher 9000 he's got on it

[carmine tide]

Uh where's the ambi safety selector

[golden marlin]

I can't tell if that's also olight

[lunar marsh]

lol. I have a single LAM that costs more than that AR build lol

[golden marlin]

It's a super safety

[edgy portal]

its a ss

[carmine tide]

Who makes the upper and lower

[edgy portal]

bcm and colt

[golden marlin]

I have a single stock that cost more than that

[carmine tide]

Bruh my optic costs more than this

[lunar marsh]

Pretty sure my NODs about the cost of the entire collection

[edgy portal]

yall clearly dont know the prices

[carmine tide]

Its a bcm

[true mist]

i love the ribbing but i dont actually have a problem with that AR aside from it being boring, its similar to my DDM4 build

[golden marlin]

We do know prices

[carmine tide]

My first ar when I was 19 was a bcm

[edgy portal]

i think my collection far exceeds all of yours when you were my age, 21

[carmine tide]

Everything else is estate sale or evidence locker crap

[golden marlin]

I haven't checked recent prices but last I saw this thing was like 1600

Just to buy the stock

[true mist]

lol no

[golden marlin]

[edgy portal]

prove me wrong

[carmine tide]

I was playing with 240s at 21

[golden marlin]

When I was 21 I had one gun that was already worth over $7,000

I just got lucky that a country decided to invade another

[true mist]

its fine to be proud of your gun but coming in swinging hard like youre the best there is when in reality you have a single basic AR isnt it man

[lunar marsh]

Weak

[edgy portal]

scroll through the recent pics and tell me mine isnt better than the majority

[true mist]

its not your build theyre shitting on its the way you introduced yourself

[carmine tide]

Sorry I wasn't born a few years earlier so I could get blown up with you

[edgy portal]

do i need to go open my antique safe up with all my inherited stuff lol

[carmine tide]

I got tinnitus and bad knees and all i got was a challenge coin

[lunar marsh]

E6 running a rifle squad in combat at 21. Step yo game up

[carmine tide]

Peak gwot promotion timelines arent fair

[golden marlin]

It's not

It's pretty mid if not boring

[lunar marsh]

Ya it was insanity at the time

[golden marlin]

Like I enjoy old stuff too. But like I'm not seeing anything that's kind of crazy or interesting

[carmine tide]

I didn't get to e6 until my 7th year in

[modest hatch]

I like my old stuff because to me it has more character than the new stuff.

[true mist]

its really just about how you posit yourself man, when you come in like "im hot shit, you guys suck, im better than you" theyre going to scrutinize you and youre going to be humbled because the hobby goes a lot further than you maybe realize, but if you were like "hey im 21 and im really proud of my basic AR" everyone would be like "😁 👍🏻 enjoy, go train, go to matches, have fun" or whatever because youre not acting like a subject matter expert or like youre superior

[lunar marsh]

lol. I made the 7 list at 7. Didn’t stay long enough to pin it

[edgy portal]

my brother in christ i was just saying some of these builds here are whack

[carmine tide]

Don't insult a man's brisket if you don't got a smoker

[modest hatch]

I don't think I've seen anything weird at least this week..

[carmine tide]

@round sentinel did you see the odst smg chassis by flux

[carmine tide]

Literally anything neko posts

[modest hatch]

that's weird? I thought that's just normal for neko

[carmine tide]

Thats what weird means

[true mist]

there are definitely some notable standouts especially from new people joining, but most of the weird stuff is either cool clone builds/niche guns and a collection that peaks with a bcm upper+milspec lower isnt exactly pushing the needle for good collections, nothing wrong with liking what you have, but it doesnt put you in a position to shit on everyone else

[modest hatch]

I guess I'm the weird one too. I like most of nekos stuff lol

[proven hearth]

Saying that while posting this?

Lol

Lmao even

That's wild work, can't imagine.

[edgy portal]

tell me whats wrong with it

[proven hearth]

You aint fooling anyone with that psa upper homie

[lone moss]

What the hell are we arguing about now

[proven hearth]

It's all good you'll learn.

[edgy portal]

colt but ok

[proven hearth]

Modern colt? Rip

Got scammed

[edgy portal]

older

2014 i believe

[golden marlin]

A lot

[lone moss]

Brother just sbs the shockwave it’s free

[carmine tide]

Colt that lost the contract to FN?

[golden marlin]

It's not set up. Too bad

[edgy portal]

i am

[proven hearth]

If it's an older colt why cheap out on the handguard

[golden marlin]

But you need to go to a two-point sling

[edgy portal]

to the lowest biddere

[proven hearth]

I dont understand

[edgy portal]

i have one

[golden marlin]

Then install it

Because what I'm seeing right now is you have a single point

And single points are going to fall and hit you in the nuts constantly

[edgy portal]

they feel like shit

[golden marlin]

Then you are setting it up improperly or you don't have a good one

[proven hearth]

Single points are dogshit for anything outside of vehicle deployment like they were intended.

[edgy portal]

ur right tho just a cheap magpul one i got for free

[golden marlin]

I would look into the ferro concepts slingster

[true mist]

i like my cheap magpul sling on my AK, if you dont like the two point you most likely run it wayy too tight or on the wrong points

[golden marlin]

It's a quick adjust sling so it makes it really easy to work with

And it's got extra padding for the shoulder

[proven hearth]

Im still running the homies sling from this discord

I dont even remember his username anymore

Rip

[round sentinel]

Yeh ofc

[carmine tide]

They work well with pccs

[true mist]

idk if this picture shows it well, but to use a two point sling comfortably it should be fairly loose

[golden marlin]

Also, I can't tell if you have an o light but you should get rid of the o light

[carmine tide]

Too bad its only for a sig

[golden marlin]

Proper use right there

[round sentinel]

He’s joking lmao

[round sentinel]

Hopefully the RXM one uses some of the same parts

[proven hearth]

Id much rather just run a 2 point if im doing anything that requires me to have a sling. Taking a gun to the sack isn't enjoyable

[edgy portal]

im really not out here dropping my gun on my sack lol, i walk to my range, and shoot and walk back

[carmine tide]

I'm also mainly talking about the mp5 which was intended to be used with them

[round sentinel]

A single point is super nice for the USW or similar pistol chassis tbh

[whole sinew]

The mp5 does better on a single

Full stop

[round sentinel]

I ran one on the USW before I sold it to Seb

[carmine tide]

Ill never be them

[whole sinew]

Even with a can and a2 stock

[carmine tide]

What's the point

[whole sinew]

That’s literally us

[carmine tide]

[whole sinew]

Wdym

[carmine tide]

When did you get here

[whole sinew]

Several minutes

7

[lunar marsh]

1 points are worthless as shit

[golden marlin]

I still need to look at other ones just because the ferro concepts one is decent but I think a bungee might be better

[lunar marsh]

Bang up your knees, bang up your muzzle, bang up the casualty you’re working on and dragging

[carmine tide]

Ill never be cagpilled

[round sentinel]

Counterpoint

They work great on stuff like this

[whole sinew]

The mp5 is kinda THE one point gun because the control layout makes you fight a two point a lot

[round sentinel]

But yeah for any ‘long gun’ they suck ass

[lunar marsh]

Ya if it’s not rifle length lol

[round sentinel]

Yeah lmao

[round sentinel]

Hear me out unironically

Arms sling

Quick transition/ release system, bungee on one side

[golden marlin]

Just a pistol chassis system

[carmine tide]

Is that a sterling smg

[round sentinel]

Yes

[golden marlin]

I'm finally getting around to getting the Gen 2 model of my brace developed

I just sent the files out for manufacturing

[round sentinel]

Also Beb, you ready to be able to run a WW2 sub gun as a leftie

The bergmann MP34 soon tm kek

[golden marlin]

Oh god lmao

[golden marlin]

That might work. I do need to order from them again

Because I want to get their QD Harris mount

[carmine tide]

Isn't that b&t monstrosity ambi

[whole sinew]

Behold, a mk18

[golden marlin]

No

The USW sure can be left and right-handed. It's just a Glock in a chassis

[carmine tide]

Actually this is a pdw

[golden marlin]

The charging handles reversible

[round sentinel]

My bad. He’s doing the mp35 config

[whole sinew]

True

[round sentinel]

Not the 34 config

[golden marlin]

Ahhh

[round sentinel]

I do like their sling

The right side feed bergmann smg

The 32-35 series

[golden marlin]

Lmao

Yeah, let me hold on to the magazine

[round sentinel]

It’s all the same damn gun

[carmine tide]

Just get an owens

[round sentinel]

You would be able to

And it ejects left

[carmine tide]

Thats the aussie smg right

[round sentinel]

[round sentinel]

Yeah. It is

[carmine tide]

I love that thing

[round sentinel]

It’s goofy but just works

[carmine tide]

If it works it isnt dumb

Especially at that time

[golden marlin]

Did you know WD-40 makes a pen

[carmine tide]

You arent gonna believe this shit

They make duct tape too

[golden marlin]

Wait really?

[carmine tide]

Yea ive seen it in home depot

[golden marlin]

No they don't

[carmine tide]

It was a pack with a can of wd40 and some tape

[golden marlin]

I just searched it up. It's just a partnership

[edgy kestrel]

Definitely does😂

[carmine tide]

Those bastards lied to me

[golden marlin]

The pen that I got it's made just for like a spot treatment. It's just oil in a pen

[edgy kestrel]

This is a peak ragebait dude

Plinker with a comically oversized airshit optic

[median osprey]

Anyone know the average wait time on SBR Form 4s?

[golden marlin]

Like a week

[round sentinel]

My last one was a day

Before the surge tho

[median osprey]

Ok sick

[round sentinel]

I’m hearing average of a week rn like seb said

[median osprey]

That's not too bad

[round sentinel]

Fr

My first can and sbr being 9 months

It’s a huge upgrade

[golden marlin]

Not at all but wait for the new rules

[median osprey]

I just picked up a KS1 a few days ago so I'm waiting for it to get to my FFL before I can get it submitted

[golden marlin]

Nice

I'm waiting for the new rules to go into play before I start filing a bunch

Because I'm going to be doing everything on a form one

[median osprey]

I'll have to wait and see if it has the factory rusted barrel 💀

[golden marlin]

Oof

The new rules for the form 1 are going to cover some of the serialization

[median osprey]

No more engravings, right?

[golden marlin]

I just want to see what changes they are doing

[golden marlin]

I would imagine you still have to do some

But you can use the same serial number

[round sentinel]

Well, on paper it will get rid of it

But that’s the proposed changes. Nothing in effect rn

[golden marlin]

Yeah

Like if it goes through I got four guns I will be putting on it

[round sentinel]

I’d be pretty confident the engravings will go just due to the fact it’s been on the docket for like 6 years now

[golden marlin]

Also like nobody follows it

[round sentinel]

Same with the F20, filing as a spouse and the other good changes

[median osprey]

Engravings have always been a redundant rule too

[round sentinel]

It’s technically not required either as an individual. It’s a weird interpretation

[median osprey]

people's nagging bitch wives going crazy rn

[round sentinel]

Kek

We will benefit from it tbf

Since she and I both have a slew of gun plans lmao

I have convinced my woman to want a micro RDB conversion

[median osprey]

ive downsized a lot over the past year

i want to afford cool nods

blew a fuck ton of dosh on larp gear

[round sentinel]

I can’t find the other pics of his conversions rn. They are cool

He did the normal grip too a few times

[median osprey]

what the fuck

[round sentinel]

KEK

[median osprey]

aneurysm inducing

wtf even is the barrel length on that thing

TBI machine unsuppressed

[odd maple]

Beautiful.

[round sentinel]

They are 8in 350’s iirc

I can’t remember if he made a 300 or anything else version

He’s made like 8 of them

[median osprey]

i hate it

[round sentinel]

Good. I try

That one is mine lmao

[median osprey]

i hate what it stands for

[round sentinel]

[round sentinel]

I have plenty of those too

[median osprey]

if i had the time i'd buy an aug tbh

[round sentinel]

Queue the 15 pound 11.5

[round sentinel]

Boooo

Worst pup besides the jokl one

[median osprey]

idk they're kinda cool

[round sentinel]

They are def iconic yeah

[median osprey]

wish the aussie imports didnt fall thru back then

[round sentinel]

Oh random thing @golden marlin

I threw the CQT on the m4 trial build just to see how it looks

[round sentinel]

It’s peak

[golden marlin]

Why I need ACR pup

[golden marlin]

Oh?

Based

[round sentinel]

It’s such an era build

Same as having the M2/M68 on her obv

[golden marlin]

I need a surefire light for mine

[round sentinel]

Fr

[golden marlin]

Cause

[round sentinel]

Micro acr pup*

[golden marlin]

So much of ACR media

That Magpul posts

Is literally with the old surefire grip lights

[round sentinel]

Kek

What is this. MW3

[golden marlin]

Consistently now every Monday

They have been posting pictures like these with Masada Monday

As the title

[carmine tide]

Gonna buy a 350 legend g3 clone

Zenith

[median osprey]

magpul's been baiting the ACR more lately

PDR too

idk if that means anything

[golden marlin]

I haven't seen them post the PDR

That much but the ACR definitely because I think they are just hinting that Franklin might be releasing there soon

Or gauging the audience

[median osprey]

i remember seeing them post it one time within the past year

[golden marlin]

The ACR they have been doing like consistently throughout the weeks

And I know Franklin armory has been talking about releasing the ACR since they have the rights to Bushmaster now

[carmine tide]

RAH I LOVE THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX RAH

[misty cove]

just import the grot bro

[median osprey]

polish acr

i don't think i'll be able to pick one up if they do drop the acr

[misty cove]

thats why its better (and actualy used)

[golden marlin]

More like let's rob a Burger King

In the MW2 invasion camo

[golden marlin]

We already are

It's just $2,000 right now

[median osprey]

im already nuts deep in building out my sr-15

[carmine tide]

Mw1 is 19 years old this year

[misty cove]

thats the standard pricei snt it lol

[carmine tide]

It can vote

[golden marlin]

Lmao

[median osprey]

if anyone knows where to find a skyscraper lmk pls

[misty cove]

also youre americans you should be able to afford it

[golden marlin]

Eventually they want to reduce the price to about 1600

It's just tariffs

[carmine tide]

Any major city

[median osprey]

[golden marlin]

The problem is a lot of people don't want to spend 2,000 dollars on stuff like that. They want to spend a thousand or less

That was probably one of the big problems with the ACR when it was brand new to the market cuz everyone was expecting it to be cheaper

[median osprey]

hence why the JAKL is so popular

[misty cove]

americans when quality guns cost quality price

[carmine tide]

The jakl sucks dick

[median osprey]

it does

but its popular

[carmine tide]

Psa is just too stubborn to stop building them

[golden marlin]

Not at all the only reason why it's sort of popular is because it's cheap but It's also sold by a company that just does nothing but screw their buyers then gas lights them

[golden marlin]

Because they're too busy gaslighting their customer base and to believe in its quality

[misty cove]

wow its just like israel

[median osprey]

i only buy stripped lowers from psa

and even then it's shit quality lmfao

[golden marlin]

Well, it's not only that around the time that it came out wasn't good because a massive recession was happening

2009 wasn't the best time

[carmine tide]

The jakl would've won the scar trials

(Bait)

[golden marlin]

Yeah I just buy from someone else

[median osprey]

me when i slice my hand clean open on the most jagged burrs imaginable

[median osprey]

hard for me to say no to $40 lowers tbh

anderson's gone

aero is basically a walking corpse

[carmine tide]

I just buy centurion lowers

Whenever im bored I just build a new lower

[golden marlin]

I prefer bad attitude armory

They tend to do a lot of sales for decent prices

[carmine tide]

I have like 4 lowers with no uppers

[golden marlin]

But I'm also looking at getting a different brand

[median osprey]

bad's pretty cool\

[golden marlin]

For a ambi lower

[median osprey]

just pay $1,100 for a SR-15 lower

[carmine tide]

Or

No

[misty cove]

only costs 6 milion

[true mist]

271k is a lot to pay for a lower

[misty cove]

they wouldnt sell it for that little bro

[carmine tide]

Quitting my job immediately

[carmine tide]

Can't believe a lower costs 8 million

[median osprey]

is this actually real

[true mist]

yeah it was a very short run of stripped lowers they sold

[median osprey]

no fucking way lmao

[carmine tide]

I work for the goyim

[median osprey]

me when i have to breath the same air as the goyim

also why are t2s almost a thousand dollars now

[carmine tide]

Gonna sacrifice 12 infants to bibi and have psa shut down

[median osprey]

what the fuck happened?

[carmine tide]

Government contract pricing

Just get a duty rds

[median osprey]

bruh......

[carmine tide]

Ive got one on my sp5 its nice

@lunar marsh has 2 on his rifles

[median osprey]

idk im kinda set on a t2

[carmine tide]

Do you have nods

[median osprey]

pvs-14

[carmine tide]

Duty rds has 2 or 3 nv settings

T2 has 7 or some crazy number for some reason

[median osprey]

ill think on it

[lunar marsh]

The duty RDS works fine on nods.

[carmine tide]

And half the price

[median osprey]

main thing i need to look out for is a kac skyscraper

[carmine tide]

It does only have 30,000 hour battery life

[median osprey]

mfw kac discontinues everything after i finally get my hands on the ks1

[carmine tide]

The only DD with the foregrip in the right position

[round sentinel]

It’s gotta be hyping up the bushmaster return

[true mist]

i think mine is in an OK spot, but i might drop the foregrip entirely down the road

using the AK without the foregrip last match kinda sold me on what my buddies were saying about foregrips not really making sense for our two gun matches

[golden marlin]

That's what I'm thinking like

You wouldn't be posting it that much if it wasn't for another reason

[carmine tide]

Bethesda with es6

[median osprey]

marketing intern with a sick sense of humor

[round sentinel]

Skin him

[carmine tide]

Im gonna laugh if its just acr style rails for the jakl

[round sentinel]

[scenic jetty]

Oh sick

Yea gonna start doing it more

Especially sense it’s warming up

[golden marlin]

Nice

It's been consistently crappy every weekend

I'm really hoping for some better weather soon

[round sentinel]

It is better weather season

Tf u mean

[golden marlin]

It's been consistently raining or downpouring on Sunday

And then like I go to work on the island and it's nothing but wind

[misty cove]

lucky

theres barely any rain here

[carmine tide]

you live in baltimore its sunny for a week, all the basketball americans shoot eachother during that week then its back to rain

[thorny flame]

that leaves the difference for a can, an optic, and a super safety

ARHK soonish?

[proven badger]

I was reading about that

Now seems to be an amazing time to get into the platform

[echo cairn]

I know what my next gun purchase will be

[median osprey]

TP7 adopters punching the air rn

[thorny flame]

zero chance it's 2500 dollars

[proven badger]

They’re out here charging $3000 for a stamped sheet metal SP5 that costs them $300 to make.

The SP7 has to be $3000 minimum

[elfin dew]

Was out with my Dad and Brother today, went to a sporting goods mall

They have a section called "The Gun Library"

Had these two beauties in their cabinets

[thorny flame]

the cabelas gun library usually has some interesting items but the prices are always totally delusional

[elfin dew]

It varies from gun to gun

I can say some are understandable

Such as that FG42, that is a VERY rare firearm to come by, so I understand the price

I saw some in the library that were being sold for a good deal

[thorny flame]

it doesn't vary, the prices are always bad

[elfin dew]

I mean, $750 for a rifle/shotgun is not a bad price

[blazing temple]

Lmao $15k for a smith fg42

That's insane

They're charging to skip the wait time of getting on the list to buy one

[thorny flame]

the market for those is so small, pricing not really a factor there

[blazing temple]

I really wanted to get one at one point I think it was something like $7k for a type 2 in .308 but like a 3 year lead time

$15k for a type 1 in .308 is highway robbery

Still a lot less than $350k for an original transferrable one

[thorny flame]

they've got to fleece the boomers before they croak

[carmine tide]

i finally bought some decent earpro

comtac vs

[grizzled oriole]

send a final progress pic

just got the MI rail and cmore

[grizzled oriole]

imagine they can get rid of the nfa, and we can start importing fg42s

[thorny flame]

the NFA isn't the issue in this case

it's the handful of surviving fg42s

[blazing temple]

^

[soft jay]

H&K knows it's autists market

[tired aurora]

That's a repro. But still rare.

[proven hearth]

No.

[tropic oak]

not accurate miami brushstroke

[round sentinel]

jokl

🤮

[tropic oak]

cant get acr cant get cz bren 3 what a acr boy supossed to use otherwise

[golden marlin]

That's an easy answer

You buy an ACR

[round sentinel]

Get a acr or grot

[golden marlin]

You don't be a loser and buy some cheap knock off that barely fucking works

[round sentinel]

Knock off arak-21 but somehow misses the point of being that

[golden marlin]

The jokl is so far from being a ACR

I just can't wait for the grot to drop

And it's not like oh they don't make the ACR anymore. Yes they do Templar precision does orders

He's the only one still making the ACR in the United States

Expect to spend 3k

[round sentinel]

They aren’t even that expensive either

Yeah

[golden marlin]

Which I wouldn't even be surprised if he offers payment systems cause he does it by order so you are expected to wait

[tropic oak]

3k not being expensive when an ar15 fully set up is maybe 1500

the avg person aint dropping that

[round sentinel]

1500 for a set up AR in 2026

Sure, if you buy shit that can’t even last a few range trips

[wheat oasis]

3k?

[round sentinel]

Or more

[wheat oasis]

That’s a 1500 rifle

[round sentinel]

the 1500 that doesn’t even pay for the rail alone

[wheat oasis]

Got this for 650

🤫

It’s was sitting in the back of the store for three years

[round sentinel]

I have one as well

They are p cool

It’s the late sibling of the RAZ prototype

[wheat oasis]

💯

[round sentinel]

What I can’t forgive is that upper marking >:(

[wheat oasis]

Shame about that

[round sentinel]

How dare you disrespect the Ras like that

Kek

[wheat oasis]

👆

Project

[round sentinel]

Oh yeah with the fucking ergo extension

That will be peak

[golden marlin]

A fully set up AR is more than that

I'm not even done with my setup and I'm already like 4K into it

If not more

[true mist]

i dont think this is an incorrect take, however the average american gun owner is dangerously incompetent, makes insane decisions, and also doesnt shoot

not going to put a pricetag on minimum viability, but if youre buying a rifle you care about, $1500 is definitely low end for a completed build

my AR is a PSA lower, used vortex viper PST, 16 midlength basic bitch setup and i definitely cleared 2 grand for the full build

[golden marlin]

Also like the problem that he's not realizing is when you get into piston guns. They are a lot more expensive

The ACR when it first came out was $2,000

Which is kind of still in the ballpark of piston guns

[tropic zodiac]

Is it in 55.6x45

I like the mbus backsight with regular m4 front iron sights

[thin cypress]

An A frame?…

[tropic zodiac]

Sure

[lunar marsh]

Shit I’ve got $4200+ into this and that’s largely due to the discontinued expensive optic and light

[thin cypress]

Around 6k into this not including the CRATOS with that we looking at around 18k

Waiting on my can to be released from jail then it’s complete and it’ll be closer to 7.5k

[oak quest]

Autists(cloners) will not be included in the results

nice build btw

[scenic jetty]

i could put that on my 14 .5

[tired aurora]

holly that's a setup....

man as a europoor my MR223 being 5k eur into it doesn't even sound that bad now....

[thin cypress]

I need the storage sopmod stock so I can hold all the batteries 🫩

[fringe prawn]

this comment is especially funny after watching like 3 different people at the range trying to get their turkshit meme shotguns and BCA uppers with knockoff airsoft eotech clones to work

[echo cairn]

God finding the classic skinny b&t mp7 suppresser gana be a challenge

[round sentinel]

Based

One day I’ll market my rail for it kek

[jolly vault]

What do we think so far?

[elfin dew]

Just bought this

[thorny flame]

they'll likely do another run of the legacy joints

[misty cove]

how much does this weigh and cost

[thorny flame]

tho the legacy one is kind of silly in light of the upgraded models

[elfin dew]

Cost me $60

Weight...I do not know, I'll have to find the packaging

It is light

[misty cove]

60 bucks for a tacticool hatchet

meh

[elfin dew]

Ok, I wanted it, so I bought it, I think it looks cool yeah, idc what you have to say about it

Every hatchet/tomahawk was $60+

[misty cove]

yea yea but how much does it weigh

[elfin dew]

I will tell you when I get the chance to find the packaging

[misty cove]

ok

[edgy kestrel]

Hatchets are certainly fun

I have a bunch of throwing hatchets I love using

[scenic jetty]

they arent that bad price wise either

[round sentinel]

Yeah. A hundred bucks

[thorny flame]

you're like a little baby watch this https://winklerknives.com/collections/axes/products/wk-rnd-compact-axe?variant=4219610562583

[modest hatch]

As long as it doesn't break after a few good swings. Looks neat

[elfin dew]

It won't, it is a pretty sturdy handle

[edgy kestrel]

I was wondering about the handle. Often times hatchets like that have shoddy handles

[carmine tide]

@round sentinel

[round sentinel]

Kill

[carmine tide]

what did i mislabel texas

[round sentinel]

Bro I can’t even read whatever shit you wrote for texass

[carmine tide]

gay

[round sentinel]

Real

[blazing temple]

why am I red

[carmine tide]

dont worry about that

[blazing temple]

I am worried about that

I mean I mowed my lawn today and I didnt even turn a little red so this is concerning

[proven badger]

wtf is that map

[carmine tide]

the US

by region

[proven badger]

Colorado and Utah as Midwest 😂

Or is that mountain west

[carmine tide]

no thats mid west

[elfin dew]

19.50oz

[oak quest]

???

ND SD NE KS and OK are great plains

WV should be south IMO

[soft jay]

I read goy

[soft jay]

Re9 incentivised purchase

[soft jay]

It won't break but will get dull really quickly

[true mist]

south florida not being included in the south is lore accurate

[elfin dew]

Hah! No

I always wanted a tomahawk

[soft jay]

It's not a coincidence

[round sentinel]

comparing OK to the Dakotas

[elfin dew]

It is, tbh, I forgot RE9 had a tomahawk

I just always wanted one (even as a kid), finally got it

I also havent played RE9

[lone moss]

Mideast mf what

[round sentinel]

Fr

That’s like 4 diff regions anyways

This is about as correct as it gets

[lone moss]

Yeah I can agree with that

[round sentinel]

Yuh

[wheat oasis]

💯

Midwest gang rise up

[round sentinel]

North greats plains

[proven badger]

Inland Midwest/Rust Belt on top

[true mist]

the fact that the "university of south florida" is smack dab in the middle of central florida is pretty funny to me

like, 200 miles north of what you can consider cultural south florida

[oak quest]

Same region not remotely the same states

[round sentinel]

Not the same region at all

[oak quest]

If theyre gonna go out of their way to be hyper specific i think adding a section for appalachia would be good

[oak quest]

I would say theyre all great plains

¯_(ツ)_/¯

It sure as hell isnt "middle east"

[golden marlin]

It's a start but I'd swap the rail then it's too to get her populated

[carmine tide]

Mideast*

[carmine tide]

updated the map

[lone moss]

Do not fucking group me with New York absolutely the fuck not

[carmine tide]

wait i put 2 north wests

the magenta is supposed to be midwest

[round sentinel]

No

[carmine tide]

fixed it

i should post this in a hoi4 discord and get bomb threats sent to me

[carmine tide]

well i cant label the entirety of michigan as the middle east just bc Dearborn exists

[lone moss]

We don’t associate with the east coast at all do not group us with those peeps

[carmine tide]

ne is north east

if it was the coast id put coast

[lone moss]

I’d say east stops at Ohio

[carmine tide]

congrats youre now affiliated with both ohio and new york

[modest hatch]

I like seeing Oklahoma just there, existing

[wheat oasis]

[carmine tide]

DMZ

[lone moss]

NO

[carmine tide]

also notre dame is now in michigan

[oak quest]

I support OK being its own thing just chilling

I would not lump in anything west of NY into NE

[lone moss]

NOOOOOOO

[scenic jetty]

lol

[blazing temple]

Now you've just removed Oklahoma from the list

And you are still calling me east for some reason

[weak surge]

put this one on layaway

[carmine tide]

Name checks out

[jolly vault]

Made it out of some spare parts i got from my old man, i do have a rattler we built together

[golden marlin]

Nice

[jolly vault]

So far building a gun isnt as difficult as I've thought, the delta ring was a pain in the ass to pull down though

Bought a BCM M-LOK foregrip thats on the way

[golden marlin]

Could be worse

Could have to cut and custom fit a carbine length handguard to a pistol length

[next quarry]

Damn.
I wear-outed my CZ457 trigger.
After ~1000 shots my trigger is not returning back is I cancel shoot.
And it feel full of sand.
I disassembled trigger, cleaned everything, lubed and build back.
But same issues.
🙁

I hope warranty will fix it.

[ivory violet]

Just return the trigger

Ez 5head

[atomic stream]

my Compliant Colt Style 9mm conversion with bearing delay, been lots of fun at the range, the recoil is noticeably sharper initially than 5.56. KAK parts.

[blazing temple]

Dear god

[atomic stream]

Tell me about it 😭

[placid basin]

☹️

[atomic stream]

Pulling my hair out spending 1.5x more for 1/3 the capacity 😂

[floral veldt]

Compliance brothers

[spark quarry]

minimalist life

due to cali laws the aks and m2 stashed in nevada

[atomic stream]

Need the terminator handshake gif but their both miserable for this situation

[scenic jetty]

Let me guess New York

[mint helm]

Another addition to my collection.

[spark quarry]

probably cali

[scenic jetty]

both big oof

[median osprey]

you'd be lucky to even get that in new york

hands down the single most restrictive state in the country

[lone moss]

Please put it out of its misery

[scenic jetty]

unless your a fed

[atomic stream]

It will be suffering on life support until a solution is found I’m afraid :/

[atomic stream]

I think the grip isn’t technically compliant, for the grip you’d need a “receiver spur” or one of the nutsack/computer mouse grips

[median osprey]

even feds/ny police are heavily restricted

[untold widget]

will it happen and does anyone have a ptr jack sbs ? what do you think of it would you take the jack or cz shadow 2

[median osprey]

idk if i'll ever get one tbh

[placid basin]

wow we begged Hk all this time for one and now that it’s finally almost here, everyone’s like “eh, maybe”

[hushed salmon]

Hey, at least you can have an AR

Mine are paperweights!

[hushed salmon]

I read this in general grievous's voice

[soft jay]

It has recoil?

[atomic stream]

Besides a well gassed 5.56 I am relatively new to shooting semi auto rifles.the action stays closed purely on bolt weight instead of lock the impulse is overall softer but much sharper

[wheat oasis]

🤌

[golden marlin]

Making some changes

[median osprey]

too little too late pretty much

took them over 20 years to finally bring it to the civilian market

mystique has kinda died out imo

[true mist]

people just gaslit themselves into think they want one because theyre cool in video games

[lone moss]

I’ll buy one tbh just to have

I was expecting them to be priced so much higher, but sub 3k all day buy

[golden marlin]

I mean that's why I bought my acr lmao

I know it's got issues but it's cool

At least I still got support and can upgrade the parts to beef it up

Or just get a grot

[true mist]

i fw that mentality

[wheat oasis]

XCR style nice

Homemade?

[golden marlin]

Yep

I quickly designed it in fusion

[wheat oasis]

Sick

[golden marlin]

Printed it out

I'll probably look at doing it as a mjf or sls print

But I also got a new charging handle and flared magwell in the works

[wheat oasis]

That’s pretty cool

[golden marlin]

I thought about doing some selector work but I'm fine with it

[golden marlin]

Thanks

[mint helm]

Funny enough, this is probably actually the lowest performance AP in my collection.

Even barring the fact that it's 80 years old and I don't plan to shoot it.

[median osprey]

ks1 is finally shipping

[atomic stream]

What happened !

[blazing temple]

canada

[atomic stream]

the next level down in Hell from NYS

My deepest condolences

[hushed salmon]

Banned since 2020

[hushed salmon]

I want to try those Israeli teargas rounds

I always thought they were fake until I saw them in person lol

[charred adder]

Crazy to see that the handguard is now in tarkov.

[plush prawn]

Holy

You American?

You can’t buy anything like that here in Sweden lol

[misty cove]

lol

[wheat oasis]

Maybe

[plush prawn]

Daaaamn

Bro what the helli

Is bro delta member

[true mist]

me when i start conflict to end the conflict in the middle east which was started to end the conflict in the middle east which was...

[misty cove]

tldr- idk jews or smth

[misty cove]

capitalist guns gang up on the commie one smh smh

[true mist]

🗣️

[mint helm]

The war crime rounds?

You're probably more likely to stumble on them than I am. They're pretty novel and collectible.

[hushed salmon]

Why war crime. Like if you actually shot someone with them?

They were designed to be shot near targets. Not at them, right?

Don't know a whole lot

[hushed salmon]

• Sunni Tzumeini

[mint helm]

I find the concept of using full velocity ammunition to shoot at unarmed people to stop cars to be dubious.

[hot locust]

They can just,

Walk it off

Its not that deep

[unique fjord]

Yugo marked German k98k worth 600??

[cerulean tusk]

so true

[misty cove]

they shoot them with normal rounds instead

[hushed salmon]

But they're not designed to be shot at people.

Reckon they stopped being used because even shooting near people caused injury from ricochets and shrapnel.

Not a great non lethal option lol

Plus they're so small. How effective could they be

[mint helm]

Yes, its whole existence is an oxymoron.

If I recall, they were intended to be shot into vehicles such that the small amount of gas would actually be meaningful.

But like I said, I find the efficacy of shooting at a moving vehicle with the alleged intention of not killing people to be dubious.

[placid basin]

My fucking dumbass bought the wrong TLR-7

I hate streamlight and their shitass 2 gorjillion different variations of the the same exact product

[golden marlin]

How do you buy the wrong light

[placid basin]

I got excited and just bought a TLR-7 Sub, didn’t realize there were 4 different variations of the TLR-7 HL-X Sub just for slightly different pistols

to me picatinny rail is picatinny rail so I didn’t think it was specific

[golden marlin]

They are pretty easy to spot

[placid basin]

idk man I just press buy

[golden marlin]

Yeah that's how you make mistakes

[olive meadow]

Pretty sure that’s user error. 🤷‍♂️

[placid basin]

it is, lowk a little mad at myself for not paying attention to the details but I still think their naming scheme is dumb and stupid

[hushed salmon]

that is so ridiculous, the margin of error is non existant lmao

[wheat oasis]

Hahaha

[hushed salmon]

i hate when companies do this. Don't they usually just include adapters for most of the big pistols/attachment points ?

[placid basin]

not the TLR-7 sadly, you have to buy the flashlight made specifically for the gun

I wanted to buy the new Surefire XC3 Sub so I don’t run into this issue

but I’ve been waiting like 2 months for it to come out and it’s still on back order

[hushed salmon]

Brutal. Any cheap placeholder alternatives you can get in the meantime ?

[placid basin]

Nope, she’s just gonna sit with no light for the next week while I wait for the correct TLR-7 to arrive

[hushed salmon]

Beauty piece

A week isn't bad!

[placid basin]

It’s fine anyway, holster doesn’t arrive until the end of the month lol

[hushed salmon]

I use a fanny pack more than a holster anyway 😛

[placid basin]

People dunk on the fanny pack carry but in Asian men’s fashion it’s actually kinda common to see a fanny pack

I still carry IWB though

[mint helm]

I need to find myself some 56A1 to belt with my 55a1 for my new Lima 6. But the only ones I can find are reloads. 😭

I swear CDVS used to have the projectiles...

[placid basin]

Buying ammo??

In this economy??

ur insane.

[mint helm]

Yeah

[unique fjord]

Spicy

[rocky matrix]

woah what is that

[placid basin]

Honestly, quite a flex ngl

[rocky matrix]

nvm found it, cool shit tho bro

[mint helm]

M856a1 should not be harder to find than m61

[placid basin]

🤷‍♂️

I just got my first ever 5.56 rifle so im new to the game

Actually just new to the game in general

[mint helm]

What length

[placid basin]

11”

[unique fjord]

I’ve got some m80a1

Well a round of it

[mint helm]

Go get a few boxes of hornady vmax, maybe some mod262 if you're feeling fancy. Should retain adequate performance in a short barrel

[mint helm]

Its funny that 80a1 has been going down but 855a1 is up

[unique fjord]

Have some m62 and IR tracers as well

[placid basin]

yeah I was thinking same thing for longer distance shooting and then just a shit load of 55gr PMC X-TAC to just fuck around on the flat range with the boys

[placid basin]

holy ❤️

[mint helm]

Get a 308 for your "long distance shooting"

[unique fjord]

Should lose some for a chic fil a sammich

[mint helm]

Just don't get a savage

[unique fjord]

I need a 308

[mint helm]

At least get a tikka or a m700

[placid basin]

damn I already have to buy another gun? 😂

[unique fjord]

Yes

The k98k I wanted sold already ):

[mint helm]

Practically speaking, your 11" 556 is probably going to be a 3-5 moa gun

Unless you spent like $3000 on it

[placid basin]

I spent $4000

[unique fjord]

Should’ve gotten it

[mint helm]

My dads got a 1903 laying around. That's what I got the m2 AP for

[modest hatch]

What stopped you?

[unique fjord]

Poor

[modest hatch]

how much?

[mint helm]

Then go buy a case of mod262 for it

[unique fjord]

625$. It’s a Yugo marked German k98k

[modest hatch]

not terrible price

[mint helm]

And with a good scope you'll be effective to like 5/600

[placid basin]

dope

man

[unique fjord]

Ah ha

[modest hatch]

better than the "I know what I got" 1200$

[placid basin]

Sir yes sir 🫡

[unique fjord]

Hey kids. Ops on rugged 9 obsidian

[mint helm]

Warpig has some, if you don't want to trust p2p

Not sure what the going rate is tbh

[unique fjord]

WP is a solid place

[mint helm]

Just kinda steep prices imo

[unique fjord]

Get my weird stuff from them

[mint helm]

But I'm usually buying direct

[unique fjord]

Def won’t get 545 from there

[mint helm]

I'm just concerned that their reloaded m856a1 won't be to spec

Don't recognize the headstamp

[unique fjord]

The 5a1 felt fine for the few I did use from them

[mint helm]

Well that's probably a factory load

The 56 isnt

[unique fjord]

I just made a statement. Don’t hurt me ):

They have some 856 kinda want to get a couple clips of it

[mint helm]

I need to get my reloading setup unpacked

[mint helm]

You've got a good ballistic discrepancy between 856 and 856a1 otherwise I'd have just gone with that

The tracer ballistically matching the main round is kind of a whole point of having it.

[unique fjord]

Oo WP has some 762.39 wolf boxes rn

And not marked out the ass

[weak surge]

pulled it off layaway

found this one for alot cheaper

[misty cove]

what u shooting at brdms or something?

[mint helm]

[phone]

That is what it was designed to go through.

[blazing temple]

I can't believe you are going to use ap rounds on his phone number

[mint helm]

was meant to be replied to the previous message.

[blazing temple]

Ye ik

[astral quest]

Woah

[astral quest]

Wow

[tropic zodiac]

why did they do this to the saiga

[unique fjord]

thats not bad compared to what some people do

p much added a stock and grip

[golden marlin]

That's literally how some saiga 12s were sold, not specifically by saiga

But like one of the decent clones you can get the kusa ones

Sold like that

But also like wait till you see the competition setups because yeah people run those guns in competitions all the time

[oak quest]

Likely a sporter that was converted

[fierce needle]

Yo, what do y'all think of my budget m4a1 block 1 clone?

It's literally just the cheapest PSA upper I got for 200 buck, put the PSA aluminum quad rail and put knights armament rail panels and a knights broomstick. Also installed a matech rear mbuis and a sig Romeo 7. And the lower is a PSA sabre m4 lower (you can see the burst option) wanted the m4a1 lower but they were out of stock so I settled.

Yo wtf happened to the image lol

[mint helm]

certainly a rifle

[fierce needle]

I cropped out the original image here is the original

[fierce needle]

Just gives me the look and feel.

[mint helm]

well its hard to go downhill from that original lol

[lunar marsh]

It’s inspired by but not a clone

[fierce needle]

It's a "inspired clone" I don't have the funds to go full autism to go all out for the small details

[mint helm]

you didn't spend $800 on the right obscure obsolete red dot so its not correct

[lunar marsh]

Yes lol

[fierce needle]

Yhea sounds about right for me

[lunar marsh]

$900 for the correct 1991 Aimpoint…only took a year to find lol

[fierce needle]

Yeah, not all of us are that rich 😔. Looks sick asf. I am planning on going all out on a NCR service rifle clone. Going to pay big for a h&r c7 upper

[mint helm]

0/10 not an a2

[fierce needle]

Bro, it still looks amazing and at a distance nobody would notice the tiny details

[mint helm]

turnabout is fairplay

[unique fjord]

There’s only a red dot shown

[lunar marsh]

A2 lower, C7 upper. Correct but just not OG Colt correct lol

[mint helm]

wonder what optic I should throw on my lima 6... kinda tempted to just throw a spare rmr on there as a joke

[lunar marsh]

Colt 14.5 barrel on an H&R 723 upper/lower

[mint helm]

one of those old can designs that had massibe backflow expansion volume eh

[fierce needle]

Luck bastards. I can't have a 14.5 barrel here in new York. Btw my m4 is a bolt action to work around our laws 😭

[lunar marsh]

If I can ever find a Gemtech halo on the private market I’m going to build one of my deployment rifles. Pointless if I can’t find my old can

[mint helm]

wonder if any of the smaller DLMS makers would do a one-off clone for you

[lunar marsh]

Not that concerned with it. I’m sure I’ll probably eventually find one. Only discontinued a couple years ago. It’s old tech I’m sure someone will eventually replace

[mint helm]

well, arent p2p form 4s coming soon? will expand your options to out of state

[lunar marsh]

Ya just gotta find a seller now lol

[weak surge]

correct, im replacing the tapco stock with a galil style folder and the houge grip with a md molot

[wheat oasis]

M4A1 glone

[hushed salmon]

Ah the trij reflex. Brings me back

Do you have a washout remover on it?

[wheat oasis]

Yeah

[hushed salmon]

This is utter blasphemy. You can't even cowitness with the carry handle or front post lol

And I love it

[wheat oasis]

That’s right

I need to find me a tar21

[wheat oasis]

[wheat oasis]

Is that just a bit of pic rail or is it some weird mounting mechanism

[hushed salmon]

It's mounted to the barrel

The unobtainable idf magnifier has proprietary mount to the gas cylinder

Just so happens I have one 😛

[golden marlin]

OI

[wheat oasis]

So my mars should just mount up

Good too know

[hushed salmon]

You'd need to remove the pic rail clamps and replace with bolts

I probably have photos somewhere

[wheat oasis]

Mmmm

I suppose I can’t just get an sar and take off the rail, or do I have to find an older model

[hushed salmon]

You can. But ideally you'd need the Tar-21 hardware to replace the rail.

Need is the wrong word. You don't need anything if you want to barrel mount the Mars except a couple cross bolts and nuts

You just won't have a front flip up sight

[wheat oasis]

Gotcha

[golden marlin]

@hushed salmon

Where's my chef hat