#general-chat

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vagrant locust
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in tasks?

hollow vapor
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Sure

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Shortly , u need pick watches and give them to fatboy(prapor) πŸ˜„

vagrant locust
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dont know how to get watches im stuck on shotguun one for him cant get him to accept my shotguns

hollow vapor
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I know how to get watches

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And i think i know what's your problem πŸ˜‰

vagrant locust
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do ya

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?

hollow vapor
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Your shotguns where found at raid?)

muted ice
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yo

vagrant locust
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yh it say get them from customs and give to him

muted ice
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if your ammo used is 2 but ur hit count is 4

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did your bullet fragment?

vagrant locust
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buck shot??

muted ice
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no

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m61

coral oriole
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jesus christ i downloaded the game and now it has to do all kinda intergrity chest and shit takes so long

hollow vapor
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Well , i need someone who can cover me , while doing the quest. Any volunteers?)

grizzled cosmos
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@muted ice
Usually that's penning through the arm into the chest, or a frag

vagrant locust
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what map crazy?

hollow vapor
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customs

muted ice
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aahh

vagrant locust
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ill come play

muted ice
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so or double hit or frag

coral oriole
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finnaly downloaded

long blade
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I'm new to this game and pc as well only had one for about 2 weeks. Looking for someone to play with who can tolerate an ex controller pleb lol

vagrant locust
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nate want someone to play with me and crazy i think are gonna team

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@coral oriole need someone to group with

cosmic pagoda
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@vagrant locust me too

coral oriole
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@vagrant locust thx but i want to start playing alone maybe some other time

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and does anyone know what AI-2 does

vagrant locust
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health

white cipher
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Mesage to all noobs: When playing scav, Kill EVERYONE. People will move like bots to get close enough to headshot you πŸ™„

long blade
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I'm a noob and even I know that lol

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This game ain't about trusting or taking chances on anyone that isnt you or your buddy. Easy to fuck up

white cipher
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@long blade I normally do but i was fully looted and wasnt going to raise attention so i was trying to run past one i thought was a bot and he crept behind me and shot me in the back of the head

long blade
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Damn man that sucks

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Anyone wanna try a round with a newbie

potent pivot
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so u cunt?

smoky grotto
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@long blade Sure, but my mic is missing atm

mild depot
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downloading...excited

coral oriole
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does it always take like 12min or more to go into the zone or is that just the first time

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?

smoky grotto
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@mild depot Be prepared to rage.

blazing knot
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so im kinda new to the game and ive been doing some factory lately and scavs just always seem to know exactly where u are

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is it supposed to be like that

mild depot
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i play pubg. always raging in that game

smoky grotto
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It'll be the same here. Just worse. You can get one shot even in the chest.

mild depot
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all good with me. this looks fun

surreal plover
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played last night it was confusing but it was a lot of fun

smoky grotto
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I've been having trouble with it. I love the game it just sucks sometimes because my mic is MIA so I'm stuck playing alone.

mild depot
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anyone wants someone new to play with add me. same name as on here

crisp sapphire
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custom 10 looking for good peeps

obsidian forum
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New to the game anyone wanna play.

gusty tinsel
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Yea I need some tarkov buddies too lol

vagrant abyss
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@obsidian forum @gusty tinsel I'm down

obsidian forum
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crazywhiteboi03

slim anchor
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@obsidian forum @vagrant abyss im down if there is one more space?

vagrant abyss
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Yep!

hollow crystal
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whats the best 5.45x39 ammo?

gusty tinsel
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@vagrant abyss Are you new?

fathom tundra
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Yo guys, i have rtx 2070 gpu, amd 2700x cpu, samsung 970 evo ssd, 16gb 3200mhz ram, but i only get 60-80 fps ingame on EFT? On low with both 1440p and 1080p res, what should i fps should i get?

gusty tinsel
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@fathom tundra The game isnt optimized at its best yet so keep your stuff down low so you dont run into issues

proper bobcat
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Is this game coming to xbox?

fathom tundra
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I know it's not that optimized, but my friend with slightly worse setup ends up with 120fps on high everything ;/?

vagrant abyss
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@gusty tinsel Yeah I am I started playing last night

proper bobcat
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Anyone know?

coral oriole
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fuck i just killed 2 people (first round) and then i died of bleeding

vital plank
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ive lost 1 mil today already

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great start

grizzled cosmos
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@proper bobcat
It's never gonna go to anything beyond PC.

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With how many keybinds this game has, playing Tarkov on a controller would be hellish.

smoky grotto
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where do i submit a report?

mild depot
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Go to launcher - where user name is click that - menu comes down - submit bug

quasi spruce
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I just died lost all my gear and im going to sleep to start agine from scratch tomorrow πŸ˜‚

smoky grotto
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oh no i wanna submit it for the discord...

mild depot
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🀷

fleet olive
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are any of those keys good

outer lodge
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Shoreline + RB keys are always good

fleet olive
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dammit i died

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how much did i lose in keys

outer lodge
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idk look it up

fleet olive
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not even level 5 yet

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lul

outer lodge
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sec

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328 = 100k RB-ORB3 = 75k

fleet olive
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dam

half sentinel
fathom tundra
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U get it back fast! Tip, run to the tech store in interchange, highest floor, there u can find gpus! around 250-290k rup

fleet olive
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someone do a scav run with me

odd saddle
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@grizzled cosmos oi kami, could you change my nick to: SerbianGrenadier [Luka]

grizzled cosmos
odd saddle
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Actually nvm

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Don't

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Ree

grizzled cosmos
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What's in it for me?

odd saddle
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You get a ugh

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TT bullet to the leg

manic oak
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Anyone know an good tarkov live stream that's a new account grind

stoic scaffold
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anyone got a fix for freestyle, either get error occured or requires a supported game

next raft
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why can i put 2 scopes on 1 weapon?

vagrant locust
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front and rear

grizzled cosmos
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@odd saddle
But you already gave plenty of those to @delicate bay

crystal wave
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How do you unblock blocked friends in tarkov?

odd saddle
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@grizzled cosmos I have more spare kekw

grizzled cosmos
coral oriole
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guys i dont know how to sell items to traders

vagrant locust
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go to sell drop and drag then clcick deal at top

coral oriole
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thx

urban glacier
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Anyone from the us trying to play?? if so @ me

kind geyser
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@urban glacier SURE

pulsar geyser
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I’m a beginner noob, don’t know what I’m doing but i want to learn

urban glacier
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@pulsar geyser If you want you can add me and we can play I have one other with me

pulsar geyser
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Yeh sure I’m down

delicate olive
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Who wants to help me. I’m new

pulsar geyser
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@urban glacier hoe do i add you

urban glacier
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@delicate olive You can add me if you want and I can teach you some what of the things ik

high lynx
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Hey guys anyone wanna play I’m new to the game but looking to find a team and get better?

kind geyser
high lynx
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It says invite invalid

strange heron
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anyone wanna team up with me and show me the ropes for the game im new just started yesterday

icy lily
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how

kind geyser
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anyone from uk here?

icy lily
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are you saying repeatedly swinging your arm isnt gonna tire you out

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fuckin dickhead

kind geyser
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anyone from uk wanna play ?

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or eourpe

vagrant locust
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yh

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@kind geyser im good to play

kind geyser
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@vagrant locust call meh

vagrant locust
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im in not tlking

urban glacier
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Anyone from us wanna play??

sour ginkgo
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@urban glacier I'm down

urban glacier
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@sour ginkgo add me back

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so I can add you to the call

crisp hare
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anyone wanna teach meh eft im tryna learn customs im so bad
Sydney servers OCE

13

vernal kindle
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anyone want to run some scavs?

young lantern
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how do i activate "game mode" in win 10?

crystal wave
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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!!! Happened to the HK E1 stock? went from 25K pice to 90 over night!

half sentinel
trail cloud
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FUCKING JESUS this game really loves to fuck you up with freezing JUST AT THE FUCKING MOMENT WHEN YOU ARE IN A FIGHT

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every fucking russian game i play works like dicks in a blender

grizzled cosmos
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Hey guys, I need a little assistance trying to fix some errors here. Does anyone here have a rig with a 9700k?

unique basalt
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Yes Kaminsky

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@grizzled cosmos

grizzled cosmos
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Are you able to play Tarkov?

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Not like, right now

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just in general

unique basalt
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I had trouble at first and had to adjust my overclock

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You overclocked?

grizzled cosmos
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wait

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fuck

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I forgot to ask about OCs

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No I'm trying to help a few users with 9700ks

unique basalt
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I would try lowering it if they do

grizzled cosmos
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I know Tarkov gets unstable with OCs

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That's why I feel stupid for not asking earlier

unique basalt
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Np I had to look into it myself

grizzled cosmos
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Does Intel have a easy OC app? Or is it bios only?

unique basalt
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I use the bios but there is software to do it

smoky grotto
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Conservative because Trudeau is a moron

grizzled cosmos
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Both and neither, also Rule 2.

smoky grotto
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I just did my scav run

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Kek

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just decided to run out with the gear I had

grizzled cosmos
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I'mma have to stop both of ya'll there.

smoky grotto
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I forgot about rule 2

grizzled cosmos
smoky grotto
grizzled cosmos
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boogaloo soontm

smoky grotto
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I just did my scav run on factory. Plan 1. Run quick to exit if your near it.. Plan. 2 kill one scav or player. loot him then leave

grizzled cosmos
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We get a lot of thouse

steel sinew
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wtf is that

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bruh

grizzled cosmos
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Because children seem to thing saying that makes them edge and cool. LUL

smoky grotto
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true dat

deft carbon
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If you found a cheater streaming EFT with cheats on, where would i best go about to report this?

analog hullBOT
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Hello @ocean cairn,

We do not take reports of cheaters here on discord.
In order to report a cheater, please record your game and post the video in this topic :

https://forum.escapefromtarkov.com/topic/98098-cheater-video-report-megathread/

Please refrain from accusing anyone here on discord to avoid provocations and conflicts.
Thank you!

deft carbon
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Cheers! @ocean cairn

smoky grotto
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they require video proof though

coral oriole
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guys i was playing as a scav and i waited till the timer ran out but i didnt get any loot why is that?

smoky grotto
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cuz you didnt extract

coral oriole
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wtf

grizzled cosmos
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then apploy @ocean cairn

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We need some mroe anyway

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8V

coral oriole
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i littaraly walked everywhere to find an extraction point but i couldnt find one so i tought scavs couldnt extract

cyan bramble
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Guys when I try to launch tarkov it just loads forever and the blue circle spinning around for over 2 hours non stop anyone know how to fix this? @ me so I can see

smoky grotto
steep pollen
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whats the fastest time someone took to die ina raid

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mine was 5 seconds

smoky grotto
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anyone else run into cheaters on reserve/labs aswell

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Gotta be less than that for me, I spawned then a player SCAV spawned right in front of me as I was running and he shot me...

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oof

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barely made it out of my spawn

odd saddle
smoky grotto
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some dude tried to prefire me through the windows from 100m away for like 10 minutes straight

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lol

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then when i went around the backside i revealed the back of my head for like 2 seconds and i got headshot in the eyes

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ONE OF THESE TIMES I'll GET HIM! people...

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yeah that's about right

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people usually shoot me in the jaw

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back turned to player - gets shot in the eyes

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I saw something similar on someone's stream, think it was Airmax on twitch

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he just sat there after

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We've all been Tarkov'd

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I also don't understand why fellow group members in SCAV shoot their teammates when the round starts... that makes no sense

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yeah it happens

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lol

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at least shoot me when we leave, I'd feel better getting to play the round and they'd get more loot

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@ocean cairn calm down boy

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haha

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ding dong ditch?

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No cap cant see your messages ;J

autumn gale
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can i somehow not pay 20% vat?

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i wanna upgrade but paying 20% more seems really stoped

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stooped*

smoky grotto
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there's always one

median holly
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@tender quiver imagine being you and thinking because somebody says "one sec" and leaves that you immediately try aggressing them because you think they don't want to play w you... LMFAO insecure fuck

smoky grotto
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Seems like a douche

valid zenith
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whats the best ammo to use for ak 74m?

gleaming oar
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is someone tryna teach me the ways of tarko

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v

steel sinew
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@valid zenith BS i think

feral cloud
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Just made escape from Tarkov on Rust

split coral
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yo anyone know why i cannot see any of the LFG shit?

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a friend invited me to this and wants me to joins LFG Custons#4 but i dont have any of that

hasty spade
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Good Evening where can I get thous Macros For Flee market what everyone is using ?

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I cant buy any Items

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I read that there is Macros you run

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and it buys all items for you

civic horizon
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you just gotta go fast

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its really not that hard

hasty spade
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No that is not normal.

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gotta go fast , adjust your PC clock , and so On πŸ˜„

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Developers cant fix easyest thing ever ..

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Not only that

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Full Forums about people complaing about this

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and NOT a SINGLE response from Developers ..

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I would like to see Programmer who though that all timers need to be synced with your PC clock πŸ˜‚

sinful terrace
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Does anyone know what the boots are that the BEAR is wearing on the Striker Infiltrator Ops preset?

smoky grotto
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Is this an off topic chat even lmao

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All I see is tarkov

crisp sapphire
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custom day room 11 no nakeds

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room 2 lol

fossil mesa
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i just got the game and when i go to play it sits loading with the cursor just spinning waiting and ultimately freezing the pc anyone else have this happen and if so how did you fix it

gusty tinsel
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anyone wanna play that is trustworthy lol

fathom vault
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bruh how do yall deal with extract campers on interchange

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was tryna scav for stashes and a guy sitting in a bush was waiting at emercom

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kinda annoying tbh

crisp sapphire
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CHAD THE DICK CHAMP NEEDS TO BE BANNED ASAP

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HES PISSING EVERYONE OFF

deft carbon
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wut who

reef cypress
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@feral cloud where u at

cobalt moss
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is the servers hanging for anyone else can't get in

sinful tide
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ive been in for a while

cobalt moss
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in queue or game

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?

deft carbon
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March

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Nikita said during the podcast with Pest and the boys, that March or somewhere around there.

civic epoch
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They are planning for March, but nothing is certain yet

gleaming oar
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Is it taking anybody else FOREVER to match up in a PMC match

hollow fiber
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can you restring hoodies?

gleaming oar
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My SCAV matches queue take 1 min, but PMC take over 10min

glossy trench
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takes me over 10 mins to match to

smoky grotto
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what map you trying to queue with long wait?

gleaming oar
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ive tried customs and factories

deft carbon
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Thought you couldn't even launch game with reshade on

rain robin
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im new to EFT whos trying to learn how to play together?

strange crater
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what are the 2 keys i need in marked barracks on reserve?

primal karma
smoky ingot
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anyone else getting a lot of back end errors?

primal karma
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there's a new limit to cash on person. think it's 200k roubles and 2k usd 2k euro max

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it was implemented to try and stop off market trading kinda.

brave pier
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i see they changed 7.62x39mm graphics, did they change the damage or pen also or just gfx?

wheat copper
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why cant i get a pmc customs game?

primal karma
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there were small changes to ammo recently @brave pier

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@brave kelp not sure how cash register keys were affected tbh, I would assume they've gone down a bit though

dull holly
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hi

blazing ingot
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Caca poopoo peepee

primal karma
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@wheat copper servers are a bit overloaded with new players atm, takes some time, if you're waiting more than 5 min in matching though, I'd back out and try again

dull holly
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hahah peepee poo poo

blazing ingot
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Uh oh

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Stiiiinky

wheat copper
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got in custons after 6 min 41 seconds

coral echo
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whats an affordable gun/ammo for anew player to run

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prefferably automatic

wide coral
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^

coral echo
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the bt ammo is like 500 ea

wide coral
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bp ammo

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or pp

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cheap but also effective

coral echo
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howmuch is bp

burnt gazelle
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wherewe's LFG

wide coral
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not the best ammo

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but still good

coral echo
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ive been using bt but its expesive

wide coral
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last timei saw bp was like 300-350

coral echo
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whats a decent cost per round?

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bp 300 bt 600

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im still new so i dont want to use guns thats gonna waste my cash quick when i could use a diff gun/ammo thats effective also

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hush is that rs in your pic?

spark holly
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someone troll me on twitch

gleaming oar
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@brave kelp yo

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wdym by select all servers

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just check everything off?

smoky grotto
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anyone getting input string error? i cant play any matches

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ive tried multiple times

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even uninstalling and installing

blazing ingot
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@rocky quest vepr hunter πŸ˜‰

coral echo
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what guns/ ammo do yall use?

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i just wana get an idea

willow crypt
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vss or val

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or sa98

coral echo
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ty

olive nymph
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what is going on with this eternal queue

wraith tendon
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what is the reasoning of backing out after being in que longer thn 5 minutes? bc logicaly that doesnt make sense to me.

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@coral echo depends on map

feral cloud
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I remade Tarkov on rust add me pm if interested

strange crater
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what are the 2 keys i need in marked barracks on reserve?

deft carbon
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RB-VO and RB-AO

strange crater
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thank u

deft carbon
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-VO is marked room to the left, good shit in there

wraith tendon
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but alot of people say you should reque after 5 min

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im jw why

dawn siren
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Is anyone else having problems queing? We have been trying forever to find a lobby on shoreline and customs

steel sinew
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yes

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same w our group

gleaming oar
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Select all servers in the loading screen

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it was 12 min queues, then after I switched to all servers, i got 2:#0

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2:30

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@dawn siren @steel sinew

steel sinew
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will try thanks

deft carbon
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Does the keytool also store keycards?

primal karma
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nope, physical keys only

torn goblet
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Any news on upcoming or active promo codes?

primal karma
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you can store keycards in docs cases/sicc cases

deft carbon
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aight gotcha

modest tree
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how do i look for i group on discord i just joined

deft carbon
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Accept rules, then there is group #pvp-lfg

lyric lotus
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what map should i be doing as a starter?

wraith tendon
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customs prbly most forgiving

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factory is a shit show

dawn siren
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why are the servers so fucking garbage rn i cant for the life of me load into one

wraith tendon
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fuck

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why dont they just add some more server juice

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lol

unreal pebble
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is the game shitting itself atm?

next jewel
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pretty sure game is committing toaster bath atm

coral echo
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me 2!!!

mortal widget
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Damn you all having issues too

river mica
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17 min waiting

mortal widget
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Wow

primal mortar
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Hey just coming back, is Kiba still great? or have changes been made since .11?

vernal cypress
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youtube music is a fucking joke

mortal widget
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Mad changes @primal mortar

vernal cypress
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i subbed bc i wanted to try something other than spotify and immediately cancelled because you can't listen to shit with your phone screen off

mortal widget
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YouTube red you can

vernal cypress
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youtube red can eat my ass

mortal widget
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Lol

next jewel
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yeah this game's servers have been hella garbage the last few days man

mortal widget
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I been getting into games fine

vernal cypress
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favoritism

mortal widget
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Located Va

unreal pebble
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^^^^^

next jewel
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i was no problem earlier, then like an hour ago its just been getting worse and worse

fresh current
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@mortal widget I don't see how that's possible.

mortal widget
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Do you guys have certain servers selected or just auto

next jewel
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auto

mortal widget
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Try setting them to some closer to you

river mica
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auto and at 20 min

next jewel
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i tried that too lol

mortal widget
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Thata how I have it

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Gotcha

next jewel
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i tried to switch em and still long ass load times

faint lantern
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anyone have tips on actually getting into a match? wait times are so long, is it a server issue?

next jewel
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has to be

fresh current
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not enough servers

faint lantern
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oh f thats the conversation i walked into

mortal widget
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Damn I been getting in in 2mins usually or there abouts

wraith tendon
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i was

mortal widget
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Been streaming for the last 1.5 hours

wraith tendon
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until now

faint lantern
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5+ mins here for me

mortal widget
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Ahhh

next jewel
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yeah so was i all day up until about an hour ago

mortal widget
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Oh I see

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Hold on lemme see mine then

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Can confirm servers down

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Lol

next jewel
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lmfao

carmine nebula
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servers working?

next jewel
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yeah my friend cant even open the game anymore lol

wraith tendon
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what

sinful tide
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i cant join a match

mortal widget
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Doesnt appear to be working

sinful tide
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makes sense

mortal widget
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Lol

sinful tide
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what?

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hehehehehe

unreal pebble
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i tried to restart my game and it opened and said i couldnt reconnect and started infinite loading

mortal widget
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Everyone is having issues

wraith tendon
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any official issues?

lyric lotus
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is the bolt action shot gun a good noobie weapon?

mortal widget
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Schweeet well there goes streaming tarkov. I'm never going to Affiliate with servers like this lmmfao

lyric lotus
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im looking for a good noobie kit thats good

formal frigate
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ash12

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full auto

mortal widget
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Send me a pm @lyric lotus if you want someone to guide you around tarkov

faint whale
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@mortal widget wanna help some new players

wraith tendon
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just got in a game

raw lodge
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can't join lab

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wth

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la , miami

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server

soft sphinx
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lfg new to the game

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is there a server for that

mortal widget
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@faint whale absolutely

cyan bramble
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Real talk who’s tryna do a raid on customs or woods @ me

mortal widget
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@faint whale pm me

soft sphinx
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@cyan bramble i'm game

delicate coyote
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need 2 / quad india / customs

cyan bramble
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@soft sphinx you’re game?

inner hemlock
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Hello all

soft sphinx
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yes sir ready to play

mortal widget
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Im ready too

#

Who wants to squad up let's go

cyan bramble
#

Ight bet I’m just in a game rnπŸ˜”

#

It’s mad boring tho I ran around the map for the past 5 mins with no action

carmine nebula
#

10 min queue

cyan bramble
#

Join LFH CUSTOMS #10 @soft sphinx

still sable
#

anyone down to run duos? im new to the game need some help

smoky grotto
#

Servers fucked?

kindred harness
#

Is there anyone from OCE that wants to play a game with me? will be my first game essentially

soft sphinx
#

@still sable invited

silver badger
#

i been in matching menu for like 10 min

halcyon rover
#

This game hard lol just started playing and I only play scav

smoky grotto
#

thast what im doing ftm lol

#

not running my pmc till I know I have too much shit on me

#

@solid coral I'm sorry add me and i will give u 10,000,000 rubles

wet bone
#

Lord_of_Mosin if anyone wants to play

smoky grotto
#

discord streaming rn guys

tired aurora
#

Anybody know if servers are fucked?

#

matching is forever.

gleaming oar
#

select your servers to all

#

4:00 queues

#

instead of just US or whever your located

tired aurora
#

ok

gleaming oar
#

click all the boxes in the launcher

tired aurora
#

ty

placid juniper
#

is there no LFG chat?

plush oar
#

lmao thank god im not the only one who thinks they suck ass lol

lapis wagon
#

Anyone having issues finding a match?

livid mantle
#

yes 12 mins wait rn just on US servers

#

whats the ping like off shore?

wary ore
#

how many people can you team up with?

lapis wagon
#

Cant see my ping atm, waiting for match

livid mantle
#

roger that, lmk if you end up off US servers

flat basin
#

alluring

spice wren
#

Where are the beginners?

dry herald
#

why are queue time so long?

spice wren
#

Switch servers

smoky grotto
#

anyone want to play? im new to the game so idk what im doing

dry herald
#

ill play

spice wren
#

Yeah Bert

smoky grotto
#

lets go

spice wren
#

Ok I’m booting

#

I’m level 20

obsidian path
#

im also new wut

honest field
#

anybody willing to play with me im new and i suck need mic

brave burrow
#

anyone down to play?

honest field
#

me but im a noob i suck @brave burrow

brave burrow
#

haha im still somewhat new to man

#

lvl 6 almost 7

#

i get the game tho

halcyon rover
#

I'm lvl 2 lmfaoo

honest field
#

i just got the gane today and ive died at least 10 times

halcyon rover
#

Me too

brave burrow
#

lol yea itll happen man

halcyon rover
#

I've been playing scav

brave burrow
#

you can die soooo fst in this game lol

honest field
#

you guys wanna team up and play

brave burrow
#

idc we can

halcyon rover
#

What I dont get is how do u shot at some one and they know right where ur at ? But when someone shots at me it hard to pin point it

honest field
#

im down how you wanna do this

brave burrow
#

idk discord chat prob then invites

#

make a channel or something

#

soul you coming

grizzled cosmos
#

Ya'll should have access to Voice now

honest field
#

ok go to trio november @brave burrow

brave burrow
#

reaper?

urban glacier
#

Anyone wanna do a interchange raid?? if so @ me

#

Have to be from the us^

tidal axle
#

30 minute queue timer so far yay

#

πŸ™‚

grizzled cosmos
#

If you pass 5 mins in matching

#

just back out

smoky grotto
#

@urban glacier I will man

#

From US too

urban glacier
#

Bet add me

smoky grotto
#

ok kinda new fair warning

urban glacier
#

Thats fine so am I, slowly learning the map

#

trying to get pc parts for my bit coin gen to start up

smoky grotto
#

whats your name on there

urban glacier
#

@smoky grotto Just add me back and then we can run it up Im already in a call with my buddy so we will have to join it that way

#

and LoseHD

#

@smoky grotto I meant add me on discord brother

smoky grotto
#

added

marsh elm
#

anyone up for squad? I just got the game could do with some help

graceful herald
#

anyone else having a problem getting good fps?

viral falcon
#

anyone having problems with desync?

#

@graceful herald lower some settings. shadows...supersample

void grotto
#

is anyone having issues with long matching times? like 15+ minutes

barren forge
#

yep long queue times, all the new players

ionic atlas
#

Is it worth getting btw?

#

x3

barren forge
#

Is what worth getting? i just got here

#

bitcoin farm? yeah if you like free money

ionic atlas
#

On tarkov?

barren forge
#

and/or free weapon cases

#

Yes lol

timber swift
#

tarkov is fun ive been playing an offline version for a week

#

but the queue is dogshit rn

#

i actually wasted an hour and a half waiting for a game

barren forge
#

interchange usually always loads good for me, too bad all my tasks are on customs rn

#

lmao

bleak adder
#

please tarkov why only on weekends does this happen

#

😦

barren forge
#

everyone wants to play on weekends

bleak adder
#

well they need to really have a plan for the weekends

zealous pike
#

why are the queue times so bad?

raw estuary
#

can i change my nickname on this server?

smoky grotto
#

Anyone know any more underrated money run spots
im tired of the classic interchange shoreline reserve runs

#

oh true havent tried customs

#

is labs worth it

#

and the risk

#

i mean

#

sure

#

aight

#

what keys should I save up for first

hard glade
#

whats good with these ques?

#

10 min interchanges

stone siren
#

br

shrewd gyro
#

servers r so shit rn

haughty wave
#

Real shitty

#

15+

smoky grotto
#

guys

#

whats the best ammo

#

for an M4A1

#

?

haughty wave
#

^

#

20 mins

devout vault
#

Any one want to team up ????

wise island
#

anybody in southeast Asia playing who wants to team 😩

drifting notch
#

Hey all! Does anyone knows if there is still some sort of key giveaways (trial key, I want to buy the game after to support the devs if I can run it on my PC ;)), last one I could see was about January 2019.

smoky grotto
#

never again most likely

#

the need for it has gone with the huge popularity

drifting notch
#

Oh well, thx for the info though! πŸ™‚

smoky grotto
#

@smoky grotto m995 is best for m4a1

#

pool i think you can just RF it on pp

#

if you buy it thru there

#

say if you cant run it

#

on your laptop

drifting notch
#

on pp ?

#

Oh, PayPal?

smoky grotto
#

yes.

drifting notch
#

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but I was looking for a way to test it beforehand. I'll try to look up for the specs (Built PC actually), and I'll simply buy the standard edition! πŸ˜‰ Anyway, thanks a lot!

urban glacier
#

anyone wanna run interchange with 2 others besides me? if so @ me

smoky ingot
#

anyone AU finding matches?

smoky grotto
#

@drifting notch for reference

#

i have a shitty built pc

#

and i still destroy ppl

#

there is an almighty stutter on EFT that everyone experiences which makes us laggy players with shit comps equal to the rich bois

#

it freezes the screen for like 3 seconds

drifting notch
#

Yeah, I guess my PC could handle it pretty well, but some said this game was pretty CPU intensive (Got a FX-8320) , and I sas someone saying his GPU (RX 580) was running fine. And in the case it wouldn't run that smoothly, I would still have the game for the future. πŸ˜…

wary ore
#

when you find a decent looking gun finally, get server lost error

smoky grotto
#

looking for people for raid and learn together

wary ore
#

if my game closes can i still return to my raid?

civic epoch
#

If it crashes or you alt + f4 then yes

fossil tundra
#

am i the only one that is experiencing server crashes on shoreline, everybody is stuck in place and i can't interact with anything

civic epoch
#

@plucky gale Please no self advertising

spice wren
#

Who wants to raid?

#

lvl5+

stray relic
#

anyone want to do a night fac dm me

knotty pulsar
#

guys i just upgraded to prepare for escape edition and i have missing items

#

did it happen to anyone else?

#

can someone help me? anyone?

smoky grotto
#

from what i read you have to wait for server wipe or u need to reset ur charcter i guesss for you to get new perks or whatever

#

but not 100 percent sure on that

knotty pulsar
#

i just bought a new upgradde, i spend money........wtf. i dont have the roubles, no backpacks, no guns

#

just2% of what qas listed i received

#

was*

raven fog
#

Relax. Just reset your profile in the client, or wait for the wipe.

knotty pulsar
#

how do i do reset?

grizzled cosmos
#

Wait, wait

knotty pulsar
#

ok

grizzled cosmos
#

There's a bug where a small number of users just don't get their EOD stuff for a odd reason.

#

and sometimes it doesn't even show up after a wipe.

#

well, reset

knotty pulsar
#

what happens when i reset?

#

i lose my stuff?

#

the stuff i currently have?

grizzled cosmos
#

Yup. Your entire account goes back to default, you lose your skills, trader levels, and stash.

knotty pulsar
#

hell no....doesn't make sense....to get a few missing items from an upgraded which i have paid for...and loose all the goods i have

grizzled cosmos
#

No, no

#

you don't have to.

#

Please Email support@battlestategames.com for help, describe your issue, just please keep in mind they're super buried under support tickets and it'll take some time fore them to get back to you.

knotty pulsar
#

can we talk on disc?

#

need to ask you somethingf

grizzled cosmos
#

I'm afraid not, what is it?

smoky grotto
#

quick question when playing in groups do you all spawn in seperate locations?

brisk steppe
#

No

#

You might get a big where only one of you spawns some where else as a scab but no

#

Bug

smoky grotto
#

ok yeah just askign i spawned in and got killed right away i guess team killed me as a scav and took whatever loot i had

digital cedar
#

too sad

meager cloud
#

Guys
is labs bugged?
i cant press the button anymore

coral oriole
#

i just killed 5 players and then died becouse my legs where broken and i couldnt run and then got shot

jovial anchor
#

does anybody wanna squad up?

smoky grotto
#

Trying to run a duo's

#

Pls dm me if experinced with the game, trying to get my money straight.,

loud rain
#

can we legit report extract campers

#

lol

#

fuck these guys

#

actually

jaunty brook
#

Git gud

smoky grotto
#

Anyone wanna run late night duos? Just need a friend

loud rain
#

who waits till the last minute

#

feelsfuckenbadman

jaunty brook
#

people who know that the ones that are too afraid to lose their stuff also wait until the last minute

smoky grotto
#

Anyone wanna run late night duos? Just need a friend

jaunty brook
#

its the new punishment meta

loud rain
#

legit this guy hunted me for 25 mins

#

lol

jaunty brook
#

Ngl i would too bby

#

Straight up tunnel vision for you

#

Cuz u so cute

loud rain
#

was a scav run so wasnt as mad but cant believe someone would camp

jovial anchor
#

there's always campers

loud rain
#

2nd day of tarkov

#

so didnt expect it

#

LOL

jovial anchor
#

ah, me too

rapid patio
#

"but cant believe someone would camp"

loud rain
#

the exit that is

#

camping SURE NP

#

camping the exit i did not expect

#

lol

rapid patio
#

good luck in life with a brain that size

jaunty brook
#

Yo ngl i wanna do extract camp too, but its so boring

jovial anchor
#

camping comes in different flavors

loud rain
#

lol ash why are you so toxic?

jaunty brook
#

Yeah ash what is wrong with you act less dumbo

jovial anchor
#

lol, it is kind of funny that u wouldn't expect campers though

loud rain
#

not at extract LOL

#

campers in the game

#

YES

jovial anchor
#

its still camping

loud rain
#

I thought it was bannable or someshit

#

heard it from a friend

jaunty brook
#

nope

loud rain
#

ah

rapid patio
#

holy

loud rain
#

feelsbadman

rapid patio
#

i second my other comment

#

RIP u

jovial anchor
#

lol, if they banned that would make for a pos game

jaunty brook
#

@rapid patio what is your problem dudette

primal karma
#

nah camping an extract is not bannable, it's scummy, but it's on you to sort of be aware/wary of everything in this game

jovial anchor
#

instead they should, and probably will, make some type of counter to extraction camping, like on hunt showdown

loud rain
#

well 2 days in so ill definitely watch out for extract campers

#

zzz

jaunty brook
#

Just always be aware of your surroundings

loud rain
#

@jovial anchor on hunt how did they counter it?

#

I remember watching people getting camped

#

I had tremors so unfortunately I couldn't see shit

jovial anchor
#

the extraction site, horses and boats, will make noise when two teams are within a certain radius

jaunty brook
#

Extract camping is not a rpoblem tho. easy to just light them up fom afar

primal karma
#

Not sure if they'll implement that tbh, they're pretty set on this game being hardcore/unforgiving.

jovial anchor
#

not if they hiding nobsi

#

only a moron would sit in the open and camp

loud rain
#

I had tremors so yeah I couldn't see shit

#

the guy who killed me was out in the open sadly LOL

jaunty brook
#

if they are hiding so good that you cant see them, they shouldnt see you

jovial anchor
#

audio...

dapper orbit
#

i mean thats not the case

rapid patio
#

go call a sniper irl a camper and then tell him how 2 do his job better thanks gn

jovial anchor
#

they can hear u...

primal karma
#

I'd say extract campers happen maybe like 5-10% of the raids I've been in. A lot of the time, it's just timing when I run into people at extract tbh

dapper orbit
#

i can plant myself on woods or interchange behind a bush where only my SR25's barrel is peaking out

#

i can see clearly

#

you cant see me

jovial anchor
#

and they also have the advantage since most likely ur injured in some way, like hong had tremors

dapper orbit
#

thats how good snipers find spots

primal karma
#

and if that's how those guys wanna play the game, I'll be like "aw what a scumbag" but it's not the end of the world tbh. that's their playstyle, that's their playstyle. I just clear most shit out before I extract.

#

You sort of learn the angles people sit at when extract camping.

#

with experience

loud rain
#

I only play interchange atm

jaunty brook
#

Also it's tarkov. the whole shtick with scavs is that they are scumbags

dapper orbit
#

you find somewhere that conceals you and not your line of view

#

USEC is also scumbags in lore

#

money hungry scumbags

jovial anchor
#

well, its in the game, so calling them a scumbag is like saying somebody that brings a ak, with full body armor is a scumbag

jaunty brook
#

You can call anyone a scumbag if you want

jovial anchor
#

all they need to do is have an alert system that counters exfil camping

jaunty brook
#

no lol

dapper orbit
#

I mean, USEC are literally war crime committing scum bags

#

yeah no

rapid patio
#

@primal karma can u add [NA only] to my name

dapper orbit
#

no raid alarm

#

maybe on labs

primal karma
#

there's no reason to have an alarm when someone's near the extract lol

dapper orbit
#

^

loud rain
#

thatll just alert everyone

primal karma
#

that'd increase extract camping/rushing tbh

#

make the problem worse imo

dapper orbit
#

^

loud rain
#

hunt is max 10 people if i recall

dapper orbit
#

people would use the alarm to draw people

loud rain
#

idk whats the max for tarkov depending on the map

dapper orbit
#

factory is max 6

#

whats your point?

jovial anchor
#

visual flashing then?

dapper orbit
#

no

primal karma
#

nothing lol

dapper orbit
#

we dont need anything right now

loud rain
#

@dapper orbit is that 6 pmcs? or 6 pmc groups

#

exactly

dapper orbit
#

6 pmcs

loud rain
#

ahhh

dapper orbit
#

5 man and 1 rando

#

lmao

jaunty brook
#

@dapper orbit i kinda need a hug ngl but tarkov is sick the way it is

dapper orbit
#

hug

primal karma
#

there shouldn't be any indicator someone is extracting unless it's a mechanic in the game like hermatic on reserve or elevators/hangar doors on labs

dapper orbit
#

^

#

they make sense

#

also hermetic alarm is aesthetic

#

real stalker vibes

jovial anchor
#

oh, well i've only been playing customs so far so i wouldn't know bout that stuff

primal karma
#

they want to implement more if>then type or activatable extracts so to speak

dapper orbit
#

Well, i hate customs

#

f^

primal karma
#

so there might be a happy medium for everyone

dapper orbit
#

dynamic extracts are cool

loud rain
#

heard woods is cancer

jovial anchor
#

and i've only been exfil camped once, but i was throwing out suggestions though

loud rain
#

havent tried woods yet lol

dapper orbit
#

i cant wait for inter connected maps

#

woods is good

#

just everyone practically snipes

jaunty brook
#

i cant wait to absolutely lose all my high end gear next run

dapper orbit
#

so if you like long range encounters

#

i lost 150k in gear just before

#

decked M4

loud rain
#

think some guy posted yesterday he lost 1 mill gear

#

in a run

#

or some shit lol

dapper orbit
#

not that much

#

FORT

primal karma
#

also @rapid patio you're all set

dapper orbit
#

modded meta 416

#

FAST or AIRFRAME

jovial anchor
#

just bring a pistol chrispy, pretty easy to kill if it has a high fire rate

dapper orbit
#

what

#

I bring rifles

#

i dont pistol

#

SR25 or nothing

#

M4 or nothing

#

AK74M or nothing

jovial anchor
#

pm pistol or nothing?

jaunty brook
#

i think 150k is just my weapon lol... i wanna go in, loot one toolbox and get killled by a player scav. its like playing santa just that you have to die to gove presents

dapper orbit
#

i mean, usually mine too

#

My SR25 is about 200k

#

QD Wave suppressor

#

1P59 scope

jovial anchor
#

dude, why would u pay for that?

dapper orbit
#

cause its good

#

it slaps

primal karma
#

gear fear tends to wear off as you get more monz

jaunty brook
#

because believe it or not, habing a laser is nice

jovial anchor
#

what? a one shotter?

dapper orbit
#

its a 7.62x51 semi auto rifle

#

so depends

#

i run M80 because M61 costs an arm and a leg

jaunty brook
#

WHAT

jovial anchor
#

i don't have gear fear, i just don't see the point in paying a lot of money for a sniper, when i can bring a pistol or ak and kill more ppl

primal karma
#

running more than a pistol is a thing as you get into the game more. I'll still do pistol runs but it's like an 80k modded 5-7 with gen4 and stuff.

jaunty brook
#

you run with trash ammo?

dapper orbit
#

fuck yeah

#

doesn't matter

#

i always fire in bursts

#

two or three quick taps

#

drops dudes

primal karma
#

m80 isn't that bad. they reduced damage by like 3 in the last patch. still same pen

jovial anchor
#

are lmg's in this game?

dapper orbit
#

only one

#

RPK16

primal karma
#

still one shots to the thorax on nekkids and pierces level 4

jaunty brook
#

Imagine having a 200k weapon and not running m62

dapper orbit
#

doesn't really matter

#

if i wanted to go for AP

#

i would buy SVD

jovial anchor
#

rpk, is it expensive?

jaunty brook
#

Imagine being poor

dapper orbit
#

RPK is meh

#

AK74M is the same

jovial anchor
#

ah man, i am poor

primal karma
#

not really, like 50k

#

55 maybe on flea

dapper orbit
#

50k for an MDR

#

which is better

#

cause 5.56 > 5.45

#

M855A1 and M856 are great rounds

jovial anchor
#

yea, if i could get a gun that has high mag cap then i could clap a lot more ppl in close to mid-ish fights

dapper orbit
#

Most AR's have high cap mags

#

they just cost like 30k each

primal karma
#

I just want them to bring in a m249 lol

dapper orbit
#

^

jaunty brook
#

Not having a 100 round mag in your gun

dapper orbit
#

M240b or M240l please

jaunty brook
#

lul

dapper orbit
#

Meta is gay

primal karma
#

RPD is confirmed

dapper orbit
#

make guns that look good to you

jovial anchor
#

nah, i need a gatling gun with about 150 rounds

dapper orbit
#

RPD is gonna be a rippa

#

cheap, 7.62 lmg

#

now we need M16A1 furniture for the M4

#

an M60

#

and wood M14 furniture

#

and boom

#

Vietnam

jaunty brook
#

we need pink bodies

#

and babyblue receivers

#

i want a neon gun

dapper orbit
#

i need my neon pink P90

jaunty brook
#

YES

dapper orbit
#

@jovial anchor if you want some cheap but effective guns

smoky grotto
#

Hey can someone tell me how much ram customs uses? I think I'm having ram issues but idk how much its regularly uses for other people

dapper orbit
#

it costs like 24k to convert an ADAR into an M4

jaunty brook
#

how much ram do you have?

dapper orbit
#

Lightly modded AK's cost like 30k

#

depending on the AK

smoky grotto
#

16

#

I think there is something wrong with one of them tho

jaunty brook
#

better check that and ask in support chat then

jovial anchor
#

whats ur gpu and cpu, cuz most likely thats the problem

smoky grotto
#

Hm k

#

I have. Ayzen 2600x and a 1070 FTW

#

I know ryzen isnt that optimized but my fps is veeeery low sometimes and after hours and hours I get the feeling my ram is failing somewhere but It might be CPU too

coral oriole
#

fuck yeah first succsesfull extraction

smoky grotto
#

Hell ya!

sick sorrel
#

gratsss

jaunty brook
#

how is ryzen not optomised

#

what do you mean

smoky grotto
#

That's just the general consensus that ryzen isnt rhay optimized in this game yet

sick sorrel
#

how much ram and what type

jovial anchor
#

what is ur frame refresh rate

jaunty brook
#

oh okay lol. i have had no problems

smoky grotto
#

That this game handles Intel CPU better at the moment. I have a 75 hz moniter and I start a match with anywhere from 50 to 110 usually 70ish then after a second it drops slowly down to 50 and even 35 and stays there its weird

jovial anchor
#

and yea, after numerous hours all gpu's and cpu's will lower performance bcuz of cooling issues

smoky grotto
#

I mean literely 60 seconds..

jovial anchor
#

oh

smoky grotto
#

Yeah Haha so kinda weird ya know might just he loading everything during that time but idk 35 to 45fps seems low for my specs

jovial anchor
#

yea, could be gpu or cpu, wouldn't be ur ram though

jaunty brook
#

and your cooling is keeping up? looks like cooling to me. my stuff never drops frames

dapper orbit
#

CPU bottlenecks performance in games like Tarkov

jovial anchor
#

nah, if it was cooling it would drop after a certain timeframe

dapper orbit
#

16gb of RAM is more then enough

jovial anchor
#

not right after he loads into a match

jaunty brook
#

@jovial anchor it would.

smoky grotto
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I knownits enough in worried about it failing. But yeah iys not cooling GPU never above 60 (67 throttles) and CPU never above 65 during gaming

jaunty brook
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because the cpu and cpu have nothing to do in the menu

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alrighty then. no clue.

smoky grotto
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Hm alright well thanks il keep looking

jaunty brook
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good luck mate, that must suck

smoky grotto
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Yeah man I'm stumped. I'm sure il figure it out eventually

jovial anchor
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well, does anybody wanna squad up bcuz im trying to get some good raids in

jaunty brook
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Anyone wanna tell me why only customs and factory at night have geared players?

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Interchange is so easy

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clapping hatchetbois is getting dumb and i feel bad for them

sick sorrel
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what map you run

primal karma
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I don't feel bad for killing hatcheters. I feel bad for anyone under level 10 and dump their gear lol.

jaunty brook
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well i cant know if they insured or not

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i should probably do that tho

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that is really cute OwO of you

primal karma
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yeah, I figure it's on them if they didn't. Did my part to help em lol

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well besides shooting them I guess.

jaunty brook
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really nice of you. i should start being nice too

dapper orbit
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hatchlings are valid targets

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weapons free boys

uneven axle
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Why does my ping spike up to 2000bearnani then back down to 10

dapper orbit
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connecting to Russia obviously

uneven axle
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Mad

true grotto
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Hey, quick question i heard about a free trial to this game but i have not found a code for it. Does anyone know anything about this?

uneven axle
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I don't think there Is a free trial

true grotto
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oh darn okay XD well guess imma wait till i get paid to get it

dapper orbit
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yeah, this game doesn't have a demo unless its a special event

viscid walrus
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Buy it the game is worth it πŸ˜„

regal drift
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Ay guys pls can someone help me out ? Mods aint resposting

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I cant log in to the game :/

true grotto
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ok, good to know! I plan on it, i just work at a collage so this time of year i get laid off because the school is shut down so money is tight. But, imma get it when i get beck to work

dapper orbit
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@lavish ibex ^

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he has an issue

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with @regal drift

primal karma
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I responded to your mod mail Exmoorz, but just in case you didn't see it, we can't handle login issues here on the Discord, try shooting BSG an email explaining the situation to support@battlestategames.com

kind geyser
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anyone from uk/Europe wanna play ?

meager lark
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Yo

jade mango
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hey my buddy cant see the lfg channels how do we fix it ^

blazing ingot
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To the random pmc i teamed up with on customs, il love you forever bro

smoky grotto
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wtf is going on

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the game lagging

shy fog
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I can't log in

smoky grotto
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damn man

shy fog
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game is stuck on the "loading profile" page

smoky grotto
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i lost connection 2 times during my damn raid

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do u see the circle

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?

shy fog
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nope

smoky grotto
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the loading circle

tawny drift
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yep same

smoky grotto
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then quit

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if u don't see the loading circle

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alt f4

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and go back in

shy fog
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I alt f4 6 times now

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No use

smoky grotto
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if u see loading profile with the circle moving, just wait

shy fog
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It's not there

smoky grotto
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that means the game is not just stuck

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it stuck as fuck

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restart pc

shy fog
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xD

tawny drift
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might be server issue

timid zodiac
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My game keep crashing

drifting lotus
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where's the lfg sector in this discord

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or there is jsut none ?

shy fog
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It worked @smoky grotto

uncut vigil
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are the servers taking a shit again?

royal valley
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I just got kicked out of woods

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Keeps saying server connection lost :/

smoky grotto
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rip @royal valley

royal valley
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Oh well only had a mosin for the scav kills

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It's insured

marsh shore
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Status on servers?

high lynx
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anyone down to play im fairly new so bare with me

fleet trench
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me

sand basalt
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yeah

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im new too

half bluff
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hey guys

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anyone know what they do to get the best value out of their btc and GP coins?

limpid pewter
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anyone wanna play?

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im not very good have ok pvp but game sense isnt the best yet

loud thorn
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your name is wise how are you not?

limpid pewter
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YoUr NaMe Is WiSe

loud thorn
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no u

dapper orbit
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@limpid pewter

limpid pewter
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YES

dapper orbit
limpid pewter
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NO U

dapper orbit
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Alright dipshit

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This is the wrong channel

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Use the channel I linked cause it's made for looking for groups

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Also you need to complete

drifting juniper
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hey guys how much does the key san 209 cost?

timid zodiac
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who can suggest a graphic card i have a 1060 6GB

drifting juniper
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1070 Ti is good

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depend on ur budget

smoky grotto
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dont change ur 1060, wait the next amd/nvidia

high ice
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man i love this game

muted ice
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btw

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the bullets only matter for the damage output right?

high lynx
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eu anyone down

karmic flame
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What is the single best weapon+ammo to take on a scav army?

smoky grotto
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Anyone trying to do customs?

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Fair warning I'm new

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or any map

shadow blaze
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@smoky grotto me

vagrant locust
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Me aswell

limpid pewter
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anyone wana duo on customs

high lynx
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new player looking to play with experonce to get better

formal charm
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if you start labs in offline mode do you still keep the keycard

high dune
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@formal charm I don't think anything at all saves in offline mode

crystal zenith
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@high lynx Im down to teach u a few things if ur on eu servers

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if any1 needs an experienced teamm8 im down to help

smoky grotto
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guys

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what's the name of the blue box that u can fit food inside

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will i find it on flea?

high dune
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@smoky grotto Mr. Holodilnick thermobag from Jaeger LL2