beginners-assistance

[bold kernel]

if u havent found anyone after i eat we can play

[placid ledge]

alright sounds good

[indigo fog]

it just increases the craft timer

[honest shore]

How so? Does it increase more as the generator is left off? Does it keep crafting?

[indigo fog]

it keeps crafting but much much slower

[honest shore]

Ok thanks.

And if you turn the gen back on does it speed up again?

[indigo fog]

yeah

[honest shore]

Sweet. No bad repurcussions then it sounds like.

[indigo fog]

not really hideout management doesnt go up as quick but thats about it

[hollow thorn]

Since when can glukhar spawn in d-bunkers

[unique steeple]

lmao

[placid ledge]

glukhar goes where glukhar wants

[tough oyster]

whats the new update about?

[hollow thorn]

believing in yourself

[honest shore]

Ok how do helmets work? I just put a half mag of 9mm into this guys nose and he didn't go down.

[unique steeple]

what ammo

[honest shore]

IDK whatever my scav spawned in with. Should it matter? There's no armor on his nose

[cunning shell]

\could be a number of things

hows your internet

[unique steeple]

faceshield?

[placid ledge]

faceshields

[indigo fog]

scav guns are terrbile for acc

[unique steeple]

yea

probably was pso or pst

[honest shore]

No

He had a cloth around his head

No faceshield

[unique steeple]

bulletproof cloth

[cunning shell]

😩

[honest shore]

Ah yes, naturally

[placid ledge]

thats tarkov for you

[neat mist]

takes longer to craft

[placid ledge]

bullet proof glasses

[cunning shell]

could be

[neat mist]

in the beginning just turn on the generator to start crafting to save fuel

[unique steeple]

condors aint stopping shit

[cunning shell]

thoes things have a ricochet chance of like a billion

[tough oyster]

whats the use of empty fuel tanks? you could craft them into grenade and mag cases but usually theres no profit or even a loss

[indigo fog]

i looted a pair that were zeroed out last night

[honest shore]

I think its just my gun accuracy. I let out a burst of half a mag at 20m and was aimed at his head, but I guess I just got unlucky.

[unique steeple]

that could just mean the bullet went straight through it

[tough oyster]

making a mag case rn is a 60k loss, making a grenade case is break even

[indigo fog]

i just thought it was cool

[unique steeple]

lol

[honest shore]

And I was aimed head on. So ricochet chance is even lower

[unique steeple]

not if u already have the fuel tanks

[hollow thorn]

Scavs spawn with really shit durability guns

and durability also affects your accuracy iirc

so if you got a 50 dura gun you could very well just be missing

[honest shore]

I get that they have bad accuracy on scav guns, but a whole half mag at 20m? That's not very far. The recoil was almost nothing so I was accurate too.

For not one shot to have gone from neck to eyes is suprising to say the least

[unique steeple]

clip?

[honest shore]

I wasn't terrible accurate but I had a good amount of shots on that dome

Clips coming

[remote onyx]

cheapy 9mm guns smgs arent very accurate btw

[indigo fog]

that gun is ass

[bold kernel]

pp so bad

use a hunter

with m80

[remote onyx]

spray went top left at the end of the first spray you can clearly see only the first 2 hits connected

[indigo fog]

spray at the legs or run

[remote onyx]

on the thorax

[honest shore]

Really? That's a shame, its such a great gun overall.

[bold kernel]

ppsh is trash

[remote onyx]

not a headshot

[unique steeple]

ppsh + 50% durability u aint gonna hit shit

[honest shore]

Roger then.

[remote onyx]

also ppsh is doodoo ass cheeks

[unique steeple]

that shit kills in close combat

[remote onyx]

i got a headshot kill with it the other day because i forgot to bring mags for my main gun

[near plover]

@tidal lynx

[unique steeple]

its a leg meta gun

[remote onyx]

i was like 2 meters away from them though

[unique steeple]

put a drum on

spray leg

[honest shore]

Why does it say that the use time on the little yellow first aid kit is 2 seconds? That thing takes so long

[bold kernel]

Is getting headshot out of nowhere when in the open large maps like woods or shoreline always preventable and it's my fault or sometimes it's just being unlucky and I should just shrug it off

[honest shore]

Feels like 6 seconds just to open it

[indigo fog]

yea

[honest shore]

If its from a sniper scav (or a normal scav even) that's your fault for not checking the spawn, otherwise it is less preventable. Not to say you can't mitigate it by looking

[bold kernel]

No i got killed by PMC

[indigo fog]

i mean other things help as well sprinting across fields staying near cover...but mostly check for snipers both ai and players

[bold kernel]

Just ran down the hill and got one tapped into nape with SSA AP

Didn't hear anyone

[honest shore]

Then you should have looked at any good sniper spots but you can't be expected to see everything. That's my philosophy. But then again I'm level 3 so who cares what my thoughts are lol

[neon viper]

@bold kernel unfortunately you kinda need to learn the maps a bit, knowing where snipers like to hang out and where PMC's are likely to flow from at what times in the raid. there's other stuff you can do like not silhouetting on the tops of terrain or walking by high contrast things like rocks and walls. sometimes you just get slotted though

[bold kernel]

Hm, i suppose usec camp might be a popular area

[indigo fog]

yea

[bold kernel]

Shouldn't have gone from there so carelessly

[indigo fog]

plus someone can be camping above it and if you dont know you cant even check

[bold kernel]

if i load a shot gun and the only other ammo is in my pouch will it load automatically?

[remote onyx]

no

you have to manually drag it to the shotgun from the pouch

[honest shore]

How does just reloading a shotgun work? Does it go left to right from the rig then pockets?

[remote onyx]

yes

[somber rain]

I believe so

[honest shore]

Is that how all mags work or will it always load the most filled mag, assuming you have numbers

[neat mist]

hm so rig takes priority over pockets?

[honest shore]

I'd assume, that's kind of its job

[somber summit]

Isnt it the same with mags, where it pulls the most left mag first?

[open hedge]

finally

[honest shore]

Why is my mouse reticle covering my irons? How do I fix that?

[lusty glacier]

would u guys change anything?

besides saker supressor

[honest shore]

It has low ergo. If you care about that you might want to change it

[lusty glacier]

49 ergo with shift

[teal patrol]

50 with raptor handle

unless avalanche is +1

[lusty glacier]

avalanche is best#

[teal patrol]

oh shit, ngl ive never even looked at it

[lusty glacier]

looks swag too

67$

[teal patrol]

all my presets for two wipes have only been raptor

time to chanfe

[unique steeple]

U should go for that

[remote onyx]

rk-2 really be lowering ergo for some reason

[somber summit]

For 100k reasons

[remote onyx]

ill be honest with you i dont get why a extended foregrip would lower the ergonomics of your gun

[open hedge]

Heavy

Uncomfortable

[remote onyx]

then why doesnt the rk-1 lower ergo too wtf

[open hedge]

It’s not as heavy or long

[somber summit]

Ergo is also ads speed iirc and with a grip like rhat youre def slower than with a regular handguard

[remote onyx]

in fact it goes negative and makes your gun more ergonomic

[haughty girder]

What is a good x4 sight

[lusty glacier]

tac30

[somber summit]

Tac30 all day long

[haughty girder]

and good 7.62 ammo?

[open hedge]

Which one

[haughty girder]

*best 7.62 nato

[open hedge]

51

Uh

M61 is usually good

Most consistent

[haughty girder]

ok

so is this any decent?

Also what is the best 4.6 ammo?

[unique steeple]

ap, fmj, subsonic

[pure mist]

It’s kinda bad

[potent crater]

I would say only subsonic or ap sx

[unique steeple]

there are some situations id go for fmj

[potent crater]

When? I dont run 4.6 much but i know ap is better than fmj pen wise and subsonic reduces recoil so it is good

[honest shore]

Why is this duffel bag stuck loading? How can I equip it?

[potent crater]

Restart game i think

Try moving other items

[honest shore]

But its in-game

[unique steeple]

well ap i would almost never run since the price, but if im going close range like dorms or factory the recoil is fine

especially since i will hipfire mostly

fmj that is

[potent crater]

That is fair

[somber summit]

Dont use m61, go for m80s. Still extremely good but not even half the price of m61

[potent crater]

M61 overpriced

[somber summit]

Way. Too. Much. Overpriced

[pure mist]

I use m61

Worth

[potent crater]

You sre level 52

51

[teal patrol]

PK hooks me up with the m61

[potent crater]

53

[somber summit]

For 3k a bullet. Not at all.

[pure mist]

Oh I have traders unlocked

3k is a bit too high

I buy at 2k

[potent crater]

I mean i like ps12b and had to buy it for 3.5k but realized really fast not worth at all and just grinded grenadier

[dusky wyvern]

Thats a terrible SR25 build

Only good part is the suppressor

[potent crater]

What do you have against scope

[dusky wyvern]

Vudu + DP better

[somber summit]

Still way too much compared to price and performance of m80 imo

[pure mist]

That’s no right one

[potent crater]

Also more expensive

[dusky wyvern]

Which is that one? Isnt that the Dragon one

[teal patrol]

m80 only pens 4, 61 pens all

[pure mist]

I used m62 for other maps and too load a mag m61

Labs is m61

[dusky wyvern]

Sr25 on labs slaps ngl

[somber summit]

I mean if i had 15+mil i wouldnt mind running 62 or 61 too. But thats just not the case for alot of beginners yk

[pure mist]

I thought it was 67 but it doesn’t matter north ignores amour

[pure mist]

I don’t have 14 mil

lol

[teal patrol]

its 64, i meant 61 as in m61

[pure mist]

See name for proof

[pure mist]

Ah ok

[somber summit]

Emphasis on beginners

[potent crater]

How much do you have?

[pure mist]

Me poor at 11 mil

Been throwing gear away lol

[potent crater]

Wtf bro

I am at 2 mil ish

[dusky wyvern]

Ive been at like 4 mil max the whole wipe but I bring 1 mil kits every raid

[potent crater]

1 or 2 days ago was at 18 mil

[pure mist]

Idk I’m already trying to burn money

[potent crater]

How

[pure mist]

I’m using gl every other raid

lol

[potent crater]

Is it any good

[pure mist]

Money won’t go away

[somber summit]

Same here. Makes m80 look really intriguing doesnt it

[pure mist]

Doesn’t matter it’s too fun

Go to videos

[dusky wyvern]

I just make my money back, I dont die often

[pure mist]

See my clip

[potent crater]

Never liked .308

[dusky wyvern]

But I pay a lot when I do die

[somber summit]

I didnt touch it much so far. But got a sa from a clueless pmc and it felt amazing sort of. Kills fast af

[potent crater]

I run ks, rat rig and headphones on factory and make my money back so easily

[dusky wyvern]

When I want to make money I just bring my meta kit

Which is A18 with a 45 vector

But my typical kit is Mk18

[unique steeple]

man rocking the 338

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah 338 cqb slaps

[somber summit]

Mk18 is a dmr right?

[dusky wyvern]

Yes

But chambered in .338

[somber summit]

Hmm never touched that caliber

Some sniper ish rounds i guess?

[unique steeple]

it kills

[dusky wyvern]

Biggest rounds in the game and yes sniper rounds

[somber summit]

Whats the price of a kit like that? 500k with amo?

[dusky wyvern]

Just use google, .338 Lapua Magnum

No lmao

400k in ammo alone

[somber summit]

Oof

[unique steeple]

u use ap?

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah

[unique steeple]

dam

[dusky wyvern]

Or FMJ, depends on my bank

FMJ is like 14k or $7 a shot

I think

[unique steeple]

fmj 18 dollar

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah close enough

[somber summit]

Thats pretty f expensive for a death that can happen really stupid

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah but its almost always a 1 tap

Last time I was on AP is 40k a shot

So 40k to kill a person in a shot imo is usually worth it

I tried using Tac-X once and I learnt my lesson, I fought cqb with an svd guy in white pawn and hit him a bunch and still died 😦

[somber summit]

Even on stomach?

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah

[somber summit]

Oof. Well it does sound worth it. If it actually onetaps

[dusky wyvern]

Its pretty much that type of round that doesnt care what youre wearing

[unique steeple]

Tac x doesn’t even go past lvl 2

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah its terrible

I learnt my lesson of why its 1k a shot

[unique steeple]

Lmao

Leg meta

[dusky wyvern]

Yes because 30 rpm is leg meta

[somber summit]

Wait i cant seem to find.. 338 ammo

[dusky wyvern]

Ingame or google?

If you mean ingame just link search the Mk18

[somber summit]

Nono google. Not at home rn

[dusky wyvern]

.338 lapua magnum

You cant find that?

[honest shore]

Does the tank crew helmet have a built in headset?

[dusky wyvern]

No

[unique steeple]

No helmet does

[dusky wyvern]

Opscore can if you buy the headset for it

[teal patrol]

then its not built in

[somber summit]

Ahh tarkov buddy just doesnt seem to have those

[dusky wyvern]

Does it attach into the helmet? Sounds built in to me

[teal patrol]

🗿🗿🗿

did you buy the helmet without having to buy hearing? its not built in

[carmine owl]

anyine wanna duo? i played last wipe but just starting this wipe

[neat mist]

it works like a face shield

detachable

[dusky wyvern]

I mean if you want to put it that way then what if I bought it with them already installed

[neat mist]

more like an addon

[merry dust]

detach these balls

[unique steeple]

And it’s Garbo

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah ik

XCELs are the only good headset imo

[merry dust]

AGREED

[brittle canyon]

[unique steeple]

Razor and xcel

[dusky wyvern]

I used to be a comtacs fan until I realized they're the reason I cant hear low frequency sounds

[unique steeple]

They’re similar

[unique steeple]

Tru

[dusky wyvern]

M32s arent that bad either

Theyre my 2nd choice

[unique steeple]

U can hear ur own steps too much

[dusky wyvern]

Mate you think thats a problem? I was wearing GSSHs for a while

You may as well hear your own heart beat with them

Probably the enemy's across the map too

[unique steeple]

Lol

[dusky wyvern]

You can never say you didnt hear something while wearing them tho

[bold kernel]

would anyone like to help make money

[whole crest]

can someone teach me how to raider farm as a scav?

[bold kernel]

typically, shoot theem

[whole crest]

kek

like how do they spaw

and where to go

[bold kernel]

clicking the hermetic door alarm spawns them, as well as turning power on

[whole crest]

alr thank you

[bold kernel]

typically spawn around K buildings, train station and underground

[whole crest]

It doesn’t affect rep too

Right?

[brittle canyon]

anything u do on pmc never hurts rep

[bold kernel]

it shouldn’t, although people have said it’s buggy and they have lost rep, but that’s just here say

[honest shore]

So you can take 1 PACA, and 1 scav vest, and make 2 pacas out of it?

[bold kernel]

talking about killing them as scav

[whole crest]

yea

[hazy zephyr]

FMJ or AP-M for .336

[hazy zephyr]

the stats for FMJ seem better

[teal patrol]

ap

[hazy zephyr]

ok thx

[brittle canyon]

ap or go home

[teal patrol]

stats arent better for fmj since ap pens class 4

fmj only 2

8 dmg difference wont make or break when 20 pen is missing

[hazy zephyr]

ah i was just lookling at the chance for heavy and light bleeding

[brittle canyon]

penetration 1st

[hazy zephyr]

where can i see penetration

[brittle canyon]

not ingame

[teal patrol]

https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Ballistics#7.62x39mm_anchor

[neat mist]

handy tool https://tarkov.ascheron.dev/

[brittle canyon]

any online ammo chart will do

battle buddy app

[carmine surge]

should i keep respirator

[brittle canyon]

nah

[ocean cairn]

Poor man.

[analog field]

anyone want beginner/med lvl quest help?

[jagged laurel]

How to get lapua magnum ammo

[unique steeple]

Nah fam

Nah

[pure mist]

very noice

[narrow gull]

find in stashes, on scavs and raiders, marked rooms

[pure mist]

go labs

[pure mist]

just buy might be better

[jagged laurel]

Is it any good

?

[pure mist]

like, farm money if you need and buy them on flea

[narrow gull]

it's big boi bullet that can one shot

[jagged laurel]

😳

[pure mist]

i was gonna run this kit

[hollow thorn]

.338 is a one shot to the thorax 8/10 times

There's some fringe cases where it doesn't but even then they'll be on the brink o' dyin

[honest shore]

How does this guy come sprinting in the building and shooting at me before I even see them? I'm like 20 ping

[teal patrol]

high ping wins in this game

[honest shore]

Bruh 😢

[pure mist]

depends on which 338 ammo you talking about

[hollow thorn]

mk18 .338

[pure mist]

peekers advantage

also desync maybe

[honest shore]

You can tell he knows its high too. He sprint jumped around the corner going full auto.

[hollow thorn]

uh generally don't hold angles

peekers advantage is super strong in tarkov

[pure mist]

post the clip up so we can maybe come up with a definitive answer

[hollow thorn]

^

[honest shore]

Too late.

Can't save after 3 minutes

[hollow thorn]

if you're going to hold an angle, don't hold it while they know where you are

move to another spot that will force them to look for you

[honest shore]

I was holding it behind a table instead of the corner. Figured the corner would be too obvious.

[hollow thorn]

eh, marginal difference

people w/ experience will scan towards the corner quickly so you still get caught up

[pure mist]

@honest shore did you turn/pivot or move at all

or are you wearing a faceshield

[honest shore]

They were not aware of me. I heard them running outside so I posted up since I thought it was a player scav I had seen a minute prior, but who had not followed me. It wasn't them.

[honest shore]

No, No

[hollow thorn]

Did you ADS

[honest shore]

Once I heard them running through bushes I posted up and was using quiet walk before

[pure mist]

big thing

[hollow thorn]

god like

[honest shore]

I was holding an ADS as soon as I was set up.

[pure mist]

they can hear you ads

it's real loud

[honest shore]

Never re ADSed once they were inside

[hollow thorn]

they can hear it from outside lol

ADS is stupid loud with headphones

[pure mist]

it's ridiculous but it's the truth

[teal patrol]

with perception like 48 i can hear you ads from 40m+

[velvet blade]

are 130k lab keys an event or a permanent change?

[pure mist]

it's super loud

[pure mist]

been this long, prob perm

[hollow thorn]

perm

[narrow gull]

until they are changed again

[honest shore]

Bruh that's so bull. I wish there was skill based match making so I wouldn't go against these ping abusing try hards

[hollow thorn]

Its a common point of controversy but a lot of the shit you do in this game is LOUD

[teal patrol]

sbmm would destroy this game

[neat mist]

tarkov in a nutshell

[velvet blade]

matchmaking was never bullet proof, it'll INFAMOUSLY introduce smurfing

[hollow thorn]

the fact that people can reset their account at whim defeats skill based mm

especially if they have EoD

[narrow gull]

i think it's just that people think that gear is the main thing holding them back

which it is not

[neat mist]

how many pmc kills do you have'

[hollow thorn]

Honestly its just playtime. This game has a lot of weird and dumb rules/systems that you have to adapt to

[neat mist]

your like lv5 right

[honest shore]

Smurfs are easy to detect. 1 or 2 ridiculous games and they go up until they are balanced. Noobs going against tryhards running around with level 6 armor and super AP ammo... That's a bit more BS than smurfs that can be weeded out

[honest shore]

3

[teal patrol]

play cod if you want sbmm

[neat mist]

I dunno ive come to accept it as part of the game

I have exactly 1 pmc kill and that was with a shitty shotty on factory

a bit later I go in semi geared another guy 1 taps me with same shotty

shit happens

[errant yacht]

Yeah gear doesnt hold you back, a bullet to the face is death whether its PS, BP, SNB, whatever

[honest shore]

Yeah I don't think it should be very skill based, but have it be a factor. Like absolute noobs don't regularly go against max players. Anyone after noob should go against anyone.

[narrow gull]

what do you define as skill in tarkov though

[honest shore]

Level 5 or once you have 5 PMC kills is an easy metric

[errant yacht]

level 5 you havent learnt anything

[teal patrol]

this is sounding like mad bc bad

[neat mist]

you also gotta learn how to avoid fights you cant take as well

[errant yacht]

^^^

[neat mist]

maybe your just running straigt to all the action

[narrow gull]

leveling and pmc kills are very different metrics

[junior talon]

ive been playing for about a week, ive gotten better but it never really feels like im going too. i dont know how to do quests because i dont know where anything is. i also cant sit here all day because i have a lot of stuff i got to do.... any adivce?

[narrow gull]

you can't match on both of those

[honest shore]

Yeah, that's my entire point. Do you have anything else to do but repeatedly yell at me in particular 3 days in a row?

[neat mist]

for quests read the wiki if that helps

I mean what are you stuck on?

[teal patrol]

brother you say things that dont make sense and i reply

[errant yacht]

google is your friend, every quest has a guide and maps showing where it is

[honest shore]

I was trying to exfil away from hostile gunfire.

[junior talon]

i know about the wiki but when you dont know the map its hard

[neat mist]

but like how? were you running in the open? on a road?

[junior talon]

but i cant sit here for hours learning every map

[narrow gull]

there are maps on the wiki

[errant yacht]

There are interative maps also out there

[neat mist]

which quests specifically

[teal patrol]

how do you expect to learn them then

[honest shore]

I was sitting in a room the moment I heard footsteps

[junior talon]

just any of them man, besides the easy ones... is there a map where it shows your character?

[errant yacht]

Did you move when you heard footsteps

[junior talon]

that would help me learn

[honest shore]

No. I stopped and held the angle. I did ADS at the door

[errant yacht]

they prob heard you ads

[neat mist]

like the only ones I can think of where you have to go to a specific spot are the woods and customs ones

[honest shore]

Yes, as we've been over. I already know what happened

[neat mist]

sometimes you just get unlucky

[errant yacht]

So you know what you did wrong and can fix that in the future then

[neat mist]

but whats your survival rate

[junior talon]

@neat mist yes, thats the thing. when it tells you to get loot and you have no idea where anything is at all, it is just frusturating

[narrow gull]

like what

[honest shore]

Yes, never aim ever. Just sit there and die instead. No use resisting. Do the smallest thing and a ping abuser will bunny hop around a corner and one tap you.

[neat mist]

well the wiki tells you where it is, go to online map and find that spot, sometimes it will have pictures

are you stuck on orienting yourself when you spawn in?

[errant yacht]

doubt its ping abuse, you can fire 100% accurate without ads

[honest shore]

They killed me long before they rounded the corner. I did not see any part of them before I was dead. My ping was 20-40.

[teal patrol]

desync

[junior talon]

@neat mistyes, i never know where im at and its not getting better

[neat mist]

do an offline raid and just run around

[honest shore]

And they are running in and jumping as fast as possible, how I would move is I was intentionally abusing ping.

[neat mist]

look at all the buildings from where ect

[teal patrol]

bro i bunny hop everywhere, ping doesnt affect how you move

[neat mist]

theres maps out there that tell you all the pmc spawns so you can familiarize yourself with them

[narrow gull]

your ping doesn't matter in this scenario

[neat mist]

or just keep going into raids for the experience

[honest shore]

Yeah it would. If I had a high ping I would expect that kind of interaction regularly. I don't, so I know my ping is not the culprit.

[neat mist]

once you get it, you get it

[errant yacht]

Best advice ive got is pick a single map learn that well, dont bother with quests as wipe will be within a month most likely. Then another map till wipe hits. That way when it does and everyone is fresh you can get going

[neat mist]

I did a ton of scav raids on customs and now I know the map pretty well and where most the stashes are

[errant yacht]

The real question, can you find the one stash behind the radio tower, that one is a pain lmao

[honest shore]

I haven't focused stashes but same. And I watched a quick guide to learn what I didn't already know

[neat mist]

is that the one next to blue fence

[errant yacht]

nah theres one in the bushes still on the hill i cant ever figure which bush fast lol

[bold kernel]

oh thats the one thats diagonal from the car

its like the second bush i think

[neat mist]

wait what

[narrow gull]

your ping defines how often you receive updates from the server and send your own updates
their ping determines when they send their updates
if they send their updates late you get that situation where the server doesn't yet know that they're supposed to be around the corner

[neat mist]

#15 right? https://www.tarkovprofessional.com/complete-guide-to-hidden-cache-locations-on-customs#customscache4

[narrow gull]

so it cannot inform you of that

[bold kernel]

nah im talking about 16

[honest shore]

Yes, so it is their ping at issue. Right? Which was my entire point. There's my ping, server ping, and their ping. Both my ping and server ping are low, so naturally they must have high ping.

[neat mist]

oh huh

[errant yacht]

ye 16 i cant find that one ever lol

[neat mist]

no I dont lol

[teal patrol]

or they have good ping and you got desynced

[neat mist]

but I should learn that

close to my usual route

[bold kernel]

16 is godly, ive only ever gotten good stuff from it

[neat mist]

maybe because nobody can ever find it so they dont loot it lmao

[narrow gull]

k but if you want to fix that you'd need CBMM(connection based)
which tarkov already kinda does with 165 ping limit and going further would prob just choke people who want to play with their buddies overseas

[neat mist]

but yeah scavving on customs and hitting stashes literally free money and a kit if you ever lose all your shit

[errant yacht]

I do stash runs on interchange, tho more people have been hitting those recently

I also have a short woods raid that normally makes like 300k easy and is safe AF

[bold kernel]

i always hit stashes on inter as a pmc

[neat mist]

honestly stashes slept on especially if your not looking for a fight

[honest shore]

I'm complaining that I, a noob, am going against these tryhards that are abusing ping before I've reached level 4. Not proposing connection based match making.

[bold kernel]

ye and sometimes you can get a lil pistol timmy as a free kill

[neat mist]

all part of the experience

[bold kernel]

imma be real, its far more likely to be desync than ping abuse

[teal patrol]

^^

[errant yacht]

they arent abusing it. ping abuse is at a higher ping amount then servers allow. at 165 you get kicked out, ping abuse is in 200-300 range. Its desync

[neat mist]

do people call low geared or pistol only people "naked"

[bold kernel]

i feel like too many people shout hacks or ping abuse when it could just be desync

[neat mist]

I played rust and it seemed fitting

[errant yacht]

hatchet boy

[teal patrol]

ping abuse is basically impossible to tell in your situation

[neat mist]

what even entails ping abuse?

[honest shore]

You get a device, or use a server, which raises your ping significantly. You use this increase to gain an advantage by abusing peekers advantage and similar methods of using the latency between server and players.

[bold kernel]

nah that isnt a big problem in tarkov

[neat mist]

might as well just get hacks then

[pure mist]

true, tarkov have so many other way bigger problems

[narrow gull]

there are also downsides to ping abuse
for example they get advantage on peek but disadvantage when retreating into cover

[bold kernel]

the few ping abusers there are are usually just chads connecting from other countries who just play the game well and unintentionally ping abuse

[honest shore]

I wasn't sure about tarkov, but server client desync wouldn't last as long as someone ping abusing. I would expect with desync that you might miss a bullet between client and server, with ping abuse I would expect to have things happen before they are possible, by a larger margin. But whatever. I'm just complaining at this point.

[bold kernel]

no you'd be surprised

[teal patrol]

ive died2-5 seconds after getting behind cover

[bold kernel]

i'd say desync is honestly more common than cheaters which is saying something

[narrow gull]

ping abuse directly leads to kinda desync

where you peek before the guy sees you peeking

hardcore desync where people are in completely different positions is something else

[honest shore]

Desync is happening 100% of the time you don't have 0 ping. It just isn't often that it actually affects anything. When you go within that margin of your ping to the server, and vice versa, you get desync.

[pure mist]

also ping abuse kinda works both ways too, it's not that HUGE of a advantage

certainly it's there but it's not that big

at least not in tarkov

if ping is too high it works backwards

[bold kernel]

ping abuse is advantageous only in very specific situations, desync kills people in any situation

[errant yacht]

and of course tarkov has ping cap

[honest shore]

Its an advantage if you hit your shots first. Its a disadvantage if you fail to kill and try to get to cover. When someone is ping abusing they are being aggressive on purpose to capitalize on the advantage and negating the disadvantage.

[narrow gull]

even if you don't ping abuse being aggressive right now is just advantageous

[bold kernel]

^^

[errant yacht]

Its also the very end of wipe everyone and their mom who wanted to has meta everything

[pure mist]

i always run meta

ez

[honest shore]

I don't get how people move so aggressively though. when I sprint jump I barely make it off the ground or would get any extra speed. It doesn't seem helpful to full sprint jump into a room to kill someone. But when this guy did it I was dead before I could see them at all.

[errant yacht]

i'm only 26 this wipe, wasnt feelin it as much been playing other games. be back next wipe tho

[teal patrol]

learn to bunny hop

also elite strength

[errant yacht]

skills, the strength skill increases run speed and jump height

[pure mist]

me either man haven't been playing much

[neat mist]

is bhopping an actual thing

[honest shore]

Marginally.

[pure mist]

yes, well kind of

[neat mist]

or is it just run jump

[narrow gull]

there's a technique to correct bunnyhop
and you don't usually use it to push

[errant yacht]

no massively

[pure mist]

you do the free look jump

[wintry smelt]

Anyone know the best way to make money

[neat mist]

do you have an example

[neat mist]

buy my

[pure mist]

yes

[teal patrol]

bro what, elite strength is insane over 20

[honest shore]

So twice speed and jump height?

[wintry smelt]

im like lvl 25 and are broke

[bold kernel]

more than twice id say

[pure mist]

@neat mist uploading

[bold kernel]

max strenght negates armor, gear and gun weight

[errant yacht]

def more than twice jump height, idk about speed after the nerf

[bold kernel]

and you can jump like a god

[honest shore]

Don't buy kits, play scav for free loot and no losses, etc.

[neat mist]

scam link smh

[honest shore]

Its 20%. Nowhere near half.

[teal patrol]

bro

[neat mist]

well the point is

skill issue

[teal patrol]

jump with elite strength and then 1

[wintry smelt]

What map?

[errant yacht]

the fact i just downloaded that without thinking is so sad

[teal patrol]

and tell me difference isnt massive

[honest shore]

Whatever you make money on.

[errant yacht]

interchange is a good map to do stash runs

[wintry smelt]

idk that map

[teal patrol]

there are numerous places i can get to youd never be able to get to with anything under strength 40

[wintry smelt]

ik customs and woods and factory

[pure mist]

lol

what

[neat mist]

so you basically just sprint, free look, jump

[pure mist]

it's a jump

my video recording quality is a bit high

[neat mist]

91 mb

[teal patrol]

right foot jump is long afaik

[honest shore]

I think woods is the most profitable map of those. I only play customs rn though so idk.

[neat mist]

lol

[errant yacht]

pull up the interactive map, go over to railroad extract, there are 5 stashes right there easy to find and leave

customs has good stashes, as a scav you got to book it tho as you dont normally have time to cross the whole map as a scav or at least i never do

[honest shore]

I was 4 seconds short of leaving earlier 😢

[errant yacht]

Factory hit the green chests, med tent, safe and draws, loot dead stuff leave

[neat mist]

you usually spawn in with at least 10 mins on customs no?

[wintry smelt]

what ab reserve? ik a little of the map

[pure mist]

yeah lol i record in really high quality

i have 3 tb of 970 ssd and 12 tb of hdd

[errant yacht]

Woods go to the cabin by the checkpoint near outskirts inside if it isnt looted is normally a expensive sight, thermal and weapon parts

[pure mist]

for videos

[neat mist]

jeez

[pure mist]

so

lol

[neat mist]

homework as well?

[bold kernel]

reserve is also very profitable but pscavs are very agro on that map

[errant yacht]

all internal??

[pure mist]

well 6 tb hdd was external

the other 6 was internal

the 3tb 970 is internal ofc

[honest shore]

Is there any way to PVP without losing any gear, for practice? Can you 1v1 essentially?

[errant yacht]

that makes me feel a little bit better lmao

[errant yacht]

no

[bold kernel]

you can pve but not pvp

[honest shore]

^ actually more like 2

[neat mist]

wish there was community servers for tarkov

that would be hilarious

[narrow gull]

you can match on one server night time some map and basically carry the gear out for one another

or die trying

[teal patrol]

insurance fraud

[pure mist]

not really but you can try labs raiders hoard

[errant yacht]

Best way to do it, get a five man go factory, you will be the only players there till Pscav show up

[neat mist]

lol the only time ive killed a pmc I got so much loot but I was like 5 secs away from extract

[pure mist]

it's no pvp but it's alr for practising for fun

[errant yacht]

raiders are better shot than most players, just their movement isnt on par with a player

[coral canyon]

where can i go for support, my tarkov has a corruption error

[honest shore]

Bruh people really took all my loot. I insured everything the other day and all I got back was one time I died to a sniper scav because I didn't see the sniper sign and didn't know the map

[errant yacht]

People take everything they can

[honest shore]

Insurance was just losing money lol

[bold kernel]

idk a lot of people dont take lower player's loot

from the people ive talked to

[errant yacht]

Yeah insurance is more for insurance scam, and dying to scav

[bold kernel]

like if i kill someone below level 10, im ditching their gear for them

[narrow gull]

not nearly the case for everyone

insurance is good when you get a cheap kit that no one is going to take

[errant yacht]

True, but a Pscav will take or the next person to come along as the dogtag is gone

[neat mist]

speaking of

if anyone knows of people trying to stack factory lmk

[bold kernel]

ye thats why i ditch it

in a bush or somn

[errant yacht]

ahh i see

[honest shore]

Unless I'm actually bringing something that is upgraded or I think I might die to scavs I'm not insuring anymore. Seems useless.

[errant yacht]

its what a lot of people suggest

[bold kernel]

idk i insure everything cause my teammates will dump it for me if i die

[errant yacht]

Bag and rig is best things to insure as most likely will get bag

[honest shore]

Maybe I should just insure everything and run straight to a sniper scav

[bold kernel]

i get everything back usually

[honest shore]

Seems like a good bet

[errant yacht]

My teammates all quit tarkov lol

[wintry smelt]

whats the best way to find all the entrances on reserve

[honest shore]

I only play solo so yeah, if I was with teammates that is different

[bold kernel]

isnt that why this server exists tho

go find new friends

[errant yacht]

I prob will next wipe, I'm too low level currently

[honest shore]

How do parties work anyways? Do you spawn with them or is it seperate spawns?

[wintry smelt]

whats the easiest way to do bunker pt 2 please

[errant yacht]

as pmc you spawn with them, as scav you may spawn near

[honest shore]

I assume there's nothing that says "This guy is friendly," so you gotta use comms I assume too

[errant yacht]

Gotta use hella good comms

If you have two monitors have everyone share screen as well good quick checking method

[honest shore]

"I'm shooting a guy in the back, its you" Perfect comms

[errant yacht]

You will die to friendly fire, and kill them when you are getting used to it

[bold kernel]

nah i rarely get tkd

[honest shore]

I'm already pretty good at not killing scavs. When I'm a scav of course

[bold kernel]

the easiest way is to run around underground like a psycho, the safest way is to go from the top into each building then go underground to the entrance and do each one like that

[wintry smelt]

i always die to some hella thick player tho

[errant yacht]

YEEE psycho method!

[bold kernel]

it helps if you have an experienced player guiding you ngl

i did mine in like 10 mins with someone else

[errant yacht]

night time, honestly slap on a pistol and a paca, bank robber and do it

[honest shore]

How do you deal with exit campers btw? I haven't come across any yet, but I assume they are hard to see. How do you spot them first?

[remote onyx]

This scav really camped the office walkway and shot at me, another pscav, just because he found an rk vo marked room key

[errant yacht]

knowing where to look, checking it and going slowly instead of rushing to the extract

[bold kernel]

you just gotta check the usual spots and hope they arent in unusual spots

[remote onyx]

He missed his entire spray, I headshot him instantly and I'm the one that lost scav rep okay

[carmine owl]

anyone wanna duo pretty new

[remote onyx]

Not worth it for 40k rubles lmao

[errant yacht]

could of been a bait, but ye prob someone new that panicked

[honest shore]

Really wish they would add a proxy shoot function, so if they shoot near you then you can kill them.

[remote onyx]

That's what I'm saying

[errant yacht]

yep, the worst i had a duo of scavs both shoot me, one missed one clipped me. I killed them both and lost rep cause one of them couldnt hit anything

[remote onyx]

It happened the other day too, I killed 2 geared pmcs and this scav comes up and misses 2 whole mp 155 shots and then I'm the one that loses rel

Rep

[honest shore]

It would make working with scavs a bit weird since you would be near each other and shooting but its not like it has any bearing really.

[errant yacht]

Scav rep is big thing honestly

[bold kernel]

all my homies hate negative scav reps

[honest shore]

I took a 12 gauge to the arm for scav rep earlier lol

And it killed me (No meds), but they lost rep and I didn't

[remote onyx]

Imagine hitting both legs with a ks23 shot and not one shotting that's gotta hurt ngl

[errant yacht]

gotta hit the stomach man

[honest shore]

Stomach against armor though? Is that going to work?

[errant yacht]

most armor doesnt cover stomach

[honest shore]

A lot of it does. Unless its a thorax only armor, which is pretty rare from what I've seen.

[teal patrol]

no

[errant yacht]

and more specically i mean aim at like crotch level so it hits legs and stomach

[teal patrol]

thorax only is more common

[versed falcon]

correct

not all armor covers stomach

Slicks dont cover it

[honest shore]

Ah the old groin shot

[errant yacht]

most good tier armor doesnt cover stomach, nor would you want it to

[honest shore]

Every piece of armor I own right now covers stomach lol. Do they get worse at higher levels?

[versed falcon]

armor that covers stomach means it will lose durability if its hit

[errant yacht]

you dont want it over stomach, youll zero it out trying to save a useless body part

[teal patrol]

if youre talking about 6b13's those are awful, besides killa

[brittle canyon]

shots to the stomach aren’t lethal but if the armor tanks it it takes a hit

[honest shore]

Unless someone just blasted you with a KS-23 in the groin like you said, in which case it will save you

And every time my stomach has 0'd I died later from energy or water loss.

[teal patrol]

surgery

[errant yacht]

CMS kit in the butt my frien

[bold kernel]

just surv kit it

[honest shore]

I don't bring CMS kits. I don't want to waste the storage box space, I already use it for all my other meds.

[versed falcon]

CMS is pretty necessary

[teal patrol]

lol'

[bold kernel]

yeah id say cms is fairly important lmfao

[errant yacht]

unless you got EOD cant really do that

[bold kernel]

definitely not a waste

[teal patrol]

what are you brining in pouch instead of a cms

[errant yacht]

CMS takes the crown followed by everything else

[bold kernel]

doesnt the epsilon also have enough space?

[teal patrol]

beta does as well

[bold kernel]

you could also just put it in your bag

and not die

[honest shore]

So should I lose splints, normal med kit, tourniquet, and painkillers? I would need to lose 2 of those to bring CMS.

[bold kernel]

ez

[teal patrol]

pks and esmarch

wat

[versed falcon]

put splint and tourniquet in your rig

[errant yacht]

I forget about epsilon honestly lol

[versed falcon]

those are cheap

cms in pouch

[honest shore]

Ok I'll try that, thanks for the tips.

[bold kernel]

wait is the med kit the cheese?

[teal patrol]

^

[bold kernel]

or the car or salewa

[errant yacht]

things you need to use fast put in your rig/pockets. you can hotkey them and use while in combat easy. stuff like heavy bleed, broken limb, and blacked limb put in your butt

I put normal bandage, PK and heals in rig. Rest in the butt

[teal patrol]

heavy bleed items do not belong in container, hemo is 5k

[honest shore]

I've been using the AI-2, should I be using something else then?

[bold kernel]

thats the cheese

[versed falcon]

IFAK or better

[teal patrol]

thats a waste of a spot in your pouch

[bold kernel]

its hella cheap so waste of a spot

[errant yacht]

I save 5k a raid doing it like that. I also have EOD so i have space. Its the first thing that comes out for good loot tho

[honest shore]

What should I do with it then? Sell them all?

[errant yacht]

youre low level keep them

[bold kernel]

yeah i mean with eod you can fit all meds and a docs case

[teal patrol]

surv, etg, pks, sicc, extra propital

[bold kernel]

its still useful, just not as much as a cms or the better healing items

[honest shore]

Keep them as a "waste of space?" I only have a few other medkits. I have 4 grizzlies for some reason lol. Other than that very few.

[teal patrol]

we said they are a waste of space in pouch, its all you can get rn so use it

[errant yacht]

thats 8 out of 9 slots btw so still have room for the hemo lol

[teal patrol]

map dependent, key tool for reserve/shoreline. or sj6

[bold kernel]

nah id put an extra stack of ammo

[teal patrol]

oh yeah

[bold kernel]

especially if im running good ammo

[teal patrol]

forgot about ammo

[bold kernel]

thats like 50k

id say thats a bit more than 5k

[teal patrol]

hemo is the cheapest thing i bring every raid

[errant yacht]

it depends what youre doing, like labs def replacing it with ammo

[teal patrol]

wdym you dont bring ammo every raid?

[bold kernel]

y'all dont always carry extra ammo?

[honest shore]

Should I use CAR med kits as well?

[teal patrol]

youll need to bring esmarch as well but ye

[errant yacht]

CAR is decent

[bold kernel]

yeah its the second worst heal after the cheese

[versed falcon]

you should be bringing at a BARE minimum a
IFAK
splint(single use or the multi)
Hemo
CMS

keep CMS in pouch

[bold kernel]

hes a new player

he wont have access to ifaks

[versed falcon]

he can if he raids the right places

[honest shore]

I think I have one afak lol

[versed falcon]

like Crackhouse on Customs

place is made of medkits

[bold kernel]

by that logic, he should be bringing propitol and mules too

cause he can just find them

[versed falcon]

I have yet to find a propital there lmao

[tepid garnet]

I havent been getting as much loot from crackhouse recently.

[versed falcon]

im talking about quanitity

[teal patrol]

intel been going crazy in crack for me

[bold kernel]

ive found so many prop in crack

[versed falcon]

literally never seen one

only morphine

[honest shore]

I have been hitting crackhouse. All I get is that stimulant pill that is worth $5000 to the therapist

[tepid garnet]

Yea ive been finding intel actually pretty frequently in crack but way way less meds than usual

[errant yacht]

ye this wipe couple times ive gotten 2 or 3 there

[bold kernel]

havent seen one in so long but i dont really need them anymore

[versed falcon]

check the upstairs supply closet, place always has either IFAKS or Salewas

[teal patrol]

i just gamble them

[bold kernel]

oh yeah, on the metal shelf

[tepid garnet]

Yea i know. Went crackhouse after i spawned next to it a couple raids ago and legitimately found 2 morphine and a car medkit and thats it.

[honest shore]

I've been checking up there every time and I haven't got one piece of intel there. I've even hit it first thing 3 times when I got good spawns. I think I died all 3 times.

[errant yacht]

amount of times that shelf has just had cheese and esmarch is so annoying

[bold kernel]

intel spawns feel nerfed

[teal patrol]

they are imo

[bold kernel]

used to get them every raid at the start of the wipe

[teal patrol]

i think ive found like 30 this wipe, last wipe was at least 3x

[honest shore]

I don't care about intel very much though. I can only sell it rn and have no storage for it.

I do have storage for barter items which is great though. But that's it for enhanced storages.

[teal patrol]

just buy a thicc case

[honest shore]

Is a thicc case a loot box? I did get one of those

[bold kernel]

"just buy a thicc case"

lmao

[teal patrol]

ya? he can afford it

[bold kernel]

he probably doesnt have flea

[teal patrol]

i think hes lvl 4-5 lol

[honest shore]

I don't

[honest shore]

Wow I'm 6 now. I thought I was 3 lol.

[errant yacht]

lvl 4 is plently high enough for one

[teal patrol]

thats what im saying

[bold kernel]

wdym

are yall talking about scav boxes

[errant yacht]

no

[teal patrol]

no

thicc items

[errant yacht]

T H I C C items case

[honest shore]

IDK what a thicc case is though... Is it a loot box? In which case ^^

[bold kernel]

at level 4?

[teal patrol]

big box hold lots of stuff

[errant yacht]

holds all the stuff

including other boxes

[honest shore]

Yeah but what is it actually called? lol

[bold kernel]

y'all are trolling

[errant yacht]

boxs in boxs

[honest shore]

And who sells it?

[teal patrol]

thicc items case

you cant buy it yet brother

[honest shore]

Naturally

[errant yacht]

100% lol

[teal patrol]

i am indeed trolling as asura said

[errant yacht]

they like what 34mil right now?

[honest shore]

I thought they just meant the lucky scav loot box

[teal patrol]

16

[bold kernel]

bro just dont die, gg ez game

[errant yacht]

only 16?

[teal patrol]

ye

[bold kernel]

wait they tanked in price what

[honest shore]

May as well bring it in on every raid for extra storage

[teal patrol]

like 5 up for 16 rn then 17+

[errant yacht]

People actually do bring in cases for labs raids some times

[honest shore]

Very risky for 16m on the cheap end

[teal patrol]

cant bring it in any yellow cases afaik

[errant yacht]

they bring in weapon and item cases, idk if anyone has rain in with a thicc before

[bold kernel]

ive found cases in marked and just kept going in the raid

once i accidently brought a holodick in

lost it :/

[errant yacht]

I've almost brought in all my ammo boxes luckily i caught it

[bold kernel]

ah no wonder you dont put ammo in your gamma, you just bring ammo boxes

[honest shore]

So I'm confused, the 12.7 round seems really bad. Thats a .50 caliber. Is it a different 12.7 than what I'm thinking? Because there's also a 12.7x108 which seems more reasonable for .50 cal lol.

[neat mist]

@honest shoreI keep afak and ibuprofen in my alpha

if you want you can fit a cms ez in there as well

do you always buy your meds?

[honest shore]

Only thing I have bought was an sks when I ran out of guns and a scav loot box

[neat mist]

raids/scavs always supply me with enough cheese/esmarch/bandages

[bold kernel]

this is the way

[neat mist]

if you dont have a lot of salewa/car to spare just take 1 or 2 cheese and then use afak/ifak in emergencies

thats how I do it

also do the meds to cheese craft in the hideout when you get it

unlimited cheese

[unique steeple]

There’s the stationary machine gun and the ash12 battle rifle which are both 50 cal

[errant yacht]

ash12 is a 50?

[honest shore]

Is the Ash12 actual .50 BMG or is it a different round?

[teal patrol]

ash12 good

[bold kernel]

ive been fucking w the rfb and p90

[errant yacht]

I dont like the ash12

[teal patrol]

rfb sounds so fucking moist

[bold kernel]

same tbh

[errant yacht]

p90 is lots of fun

[somber rain]

Ammo is too expensive for me

[unique steeple]

No there’s no 50bmg in this game

[bold kernel]

dont even need m61, just shove in some m80 and youll still smack

[unique steeple]

Ye

[teal patrol]

i get my m61 from pk

[bold kernel]

id rather spend money on ammo than anything else

[errant yacht]

I also love the MPX lol

[bold kernel]

plus i buy from traders

[teal patrol]

ammo over anything

[bold kernel]

ye good gun

[somber rain]

I have lvl3 traders, so I can't get much of the meta ammo yet from traders

[bold kernel]

cant go wrong with ol reliable mp5

[honest shore]

Is the Ash12 12.7x55? That can't penetrate level 2 body armor unless you use the mediocre rounds, and then it can't pen level 4 well, and if you use the best round it still struggles against level 6. In a .50 caliber gun? The other .50 goes through everything easily, which is what I would expect

[bold kernel]

you can get the best p90 ammo for 4 dollars a round from PK

[errant yacht]

dude i had a kitted mp5 last wipe that went back and forth around my squad for a while, got us so much loot

[somber rain]

Yeah, but blunt

[somber rain]

I have pk 2

[bold kernel]

blunt damage

not everything is about pen

[honest shore]

I heard that blunt damage is useless

[bold kernel]

hence why in 5.45 BS is better than Igolnik

[somber rain]

Apparently, considering I got headshot with buckshot today and survived with no helmet

[bold kernel]

0_0

[neat mist]

to a point

leg meta

[somber rain]

It was 20/70

[errant yacht]

I havent done friend from the west yet lol

[neat mist]

ks23 exists

[errant yacht]

makes sense

[bold kernel]

i use the mp5 barter from pk and kit them out a lil w suppy, tactical, sight and drum

[somber rain]

Yeah

[honest shore]

Blunt damage only works against body armor according to the wiki. Nothing to do with leg meta

[somber rain]

Poor man was running a toz at lvl 27

[bold kernel]

annoying quest line

not as bad as punisher but still annoying

[unique steeple]

50 caliber doesn’t make it a god bullet

[somber rain]

I still have to mark tanks on shoreline

[unique steeple]

It’s only the diameter

[neat mist]

blunt damage = flesh damage? or something else

[bold kernel]

no leg meta is different

[errant yacht]

i need another USEC kill. ive been on the last one for a while. Keep killing bears

[somber rain]

Not flesh, its like getting hit so hard it shatters shit inside

[brittle canyon]

if a bullet hits u, and the armor blocks it, the kinetic energy of the bullet is still there and it punches u, and that hurts

[neat mist]

looks like someone needs to read the wiki again

[honest shore]

Yeah, but .50 does make it just barely not a destructive weapon in the US. And .50s have about 30mm of penetration. No body armor is stopping that.

[brittle canyon]

usually 1~3 pts of damage

[bold kernel]

blunt damage is based on flesh damage

[neat mist]

so I guess blunt damage doesnt matter much then?

[bold kernel]

it scales with flesh

[brittle canyon]

not at all

[unique steeple]

Bro what

[honest shore]

"If the bullet does not penetrate, “blunt damage” is applied, which lets through a % of the base damage of the bullet to the body part hit."

[bold kernel]

not as much as pen and leg but it makes a difference

[brittle canyon]

IRL blunt can leave bruises or in extreme cases crack your rib

[neat mist]

yeah

[honest shore]

"Blunt damage is extremely low and not a notable factor in kill speed against anything other than level 2 body armors."

[brittle canyon]

like a 12g slug against soft armor

[bold kernel]

like with 5.45, even tho igolnik has more pen, it has lower damage making BS better for the cost

[brittle canyon]

that’s gonna knock u out

[neat mist]

so basically noting in tarkov lol

oh a few broken ribs just use a splint

[bold kernel]

the wiki is also outdated when it comes to game mechanics

they dont update it every wipe

[brittle canyon]

u should update it then

[neat mist]

its been like what 5 months

[brittle canyon]

clearly you know better

[bold kernel]

its only useful for tasks

[neat mist]

still no update?

[honest shore]

You don't even need to use a splint unless it is displaced. If its a broken rib that just breaks and doesn't move your body can heal without medicine.

[neat mist]

./s

[unique steeple]

If u shoot a 9mm rip which has like 1 penetration at condor glasses since it’s lvl 2, it won’t penetrate but u will still die from blunt damage

[brittle canyon]

that doesn’t sound right

[bold kernel]

im not saying blunt damage is meta

but it exists

[neat mist]

just a small consideration I see

[bold kernel]

theres a reason why lvndmark doesnt go around screaming blunt damage when he kills people

[unique steeple]

It is

[solid agate]

If u really thin kabout it

Leg meta is just extreme blunt damage

[unique steeple]

No

[bold kernel]

yes because blunt is based on flesh

[solid agate]

Yes

[bold kernel]

blunt is flesh on armor

[honest shore]

Blunt damage is passthrough percent. So it gets some % damage through the glasses if it doesn't pen. Since headshots do so much then you only need a small percent damage to kill. So if 9mm has enough blunt % that makes sense.

[solid agate]

I'm correct

[bold kernel]

hence why it scales with flesh

[brittle canyon]

“This % is based on the specific armor’s “blunt throughput” stat, the pen value of the ammo, and the armor’s class and remaining durability %.”

not on flesh dmg of the ammo

[unique steeple]

Ur legs don’t have armor dumbass

[brittle canyon]

does anyone remember when they buffed blunt throughput on armors & helmets by 20% and armored rigs by 40%? People freaked out and guess what

nothing happened

[honest shore]

I'd imagine that blunt damage scales with flesh damage though. It makes sense that a bullet with more stopping power does more blunt force trauma

[unique steeple]

Hence condors suck

[brittle canyon]

blunt force is simply kinetic energy

doesn’t matter if it’s a fmj or jhp or whatever

[unique steeple]

Literal no difference lmao

[honest shore]

I agree flesh is more complicated, but a bullet that has more kinetic energy is going to do more flesh and blunt damage, unless it overpenetrates the target in the case of flesh.

[brittle canyon]

yes that’s what I said

[potent magnet]

who want to get me alot of money ?

[honest shore]

Then we agree lol

[unique steeple]

No one

Gtfo

[brittle canyon]

stopping power ≠ pure energy though

shape of the bullet matters

[unique steeple]

It doesn’t

[honest shore]

If you get marked and cursed by entering a game with too little loot, are you notified and can you get unmarked?

[potent magnet]

i nneed cash

[unique steeple]

Since we are talking about bullets that don’t penetrate

The shape rly doesn’t matter

[honest shore]

It seems we agree lol

[bold kernel]

yes im sure nikita is sitting in russia working on kinetic equations for the game

[unique steeple]

Most likely

[honest shore]

We are talking about the difference between flesh and blunt damage, so it does apply a little

[bold kernel]

no, yes

no notification

to get unmarked, you need to satisfy the reqs for not being marked

which is atleast one weapon and gear item

[neat mist]

ok what even is marked and cursed? tried searching but wiki doesnt say anything, and the stuff I found said it was only for offline?

[brittle canyon]

all scavs rush you

[unique steeple]

Scavs come after u

[brittle canyon]

they know where you are

[bold kernel]

no the wiki is perfect dont question it

[honest shore]

That's it? I thought it was a weapon, 2 extra mags, and a rig minimum

[bold kernel]

anything not on it doesnt exist

[brittle canyon]

go bring nothing to a factory raid and see

[neat mist]

seems like ez way to farm scavs right?

[bold kernel]

im mocking your logic lmao

[brittle canyon]

it is

[neat mist]

like just 1 pistol and extra mag

[honest shore]

It should be the same as offline. It makes scavs see you. So try it in offline and you can see its effects. I might do that too.

[bold kernel]

yes and no

[brittle canyon]

???

[bold kernel]

no gear means you have only 1 mag

how do you plan on farming them

[unique steeple]

Nice u have farmed a whole 5 scavs with that

[neat mist]

I mean like

[honest shore]

You still have pockets though.

[brittle canyon]

mag in pocket

[neat mist]

you can take what the scavs had tho?

[bold kernel]

also they still have normal spawns so you have to go to their general area

they wont come from zb-011 to big red

[honest shore]

Yes, and then you aren't marked anymore apparently

[unique steeple]

Then ur not marked anymore

[neat mist]

ahhh

thats true

what about shotguns?

no mag?

[bold kernel]

i guess that works

[brittle canyon]

just gun, no rig, no bag, tagged

[unique steeple]

Scavs rly don’t give much xp anyway

[bold kernel]

but what if you run into a player