#beginners-assistance
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saves from 5.45 bt too
dependant on where the armor is :)
it really isn’t
i get shot in the ears so many times with ulach
it’s just the angle of the shot
and thats why ulach is really good
No idea, I just like how it looks 
Shemagh best helmet, no?
is there no way to que up crafting in the hideout?
Nope, gotta wait till it’s done 😦
Not without 3rd party tools
sounds bannable
svd only 💀
got any tips for sniping? been trying to a while havent hit my shots that much
ranging?
use tracers or look for bullet impacts to see where you're hitting
and range accordingly
what the hell am i supposed to do with a zero'd zabralo
save it for a task
alright thanks man
or sell for 3 mil or something
@reef spoke this guy can tell you all about the subject
people who want it for a task will find it
ive even put it up for 1.5mil but it hasnt sold
ill end up using more money on fee's than selling it
will i lose my stuff if i disconnected in a raid's loading screen
before the countdown
Yup, wouldn't risk it
i'd buy a 1.5 mil zeroed zabralo :(
I've always used zeroing when available but in tarkov it feels counterintuitive
idk, i never had an opportunity to sell zeroed zabralo so i can't give any input on that
Jump into a offline raid and shoot stuff to get a feel for the drop
does the squad system basically spawn a squad in the same place and does nothing else?
and makes it so you can't cheese kill tasks on your squadmates
no player markers?
nope
must be hitting low, very few rounds can actually one shot thorax
also the dumb thing is guns are zeroed for default round not for the one you're using
so when you change zeroing on sr-25 to 200m it means m80 shot is zeroed for 200m, whereas you might be using m61 with higher velocity and you end up going high
communication, keeping track of your guy, have some friend-foe procedure
armbands are an option in that
ahhh thanks
basically force a teammate to go first, and when he dies wait for the other person to loot, works for me plenty
thats hella toxic damn but will try it
callouts, stick somewhat together and if you're spreading out try have 1 key factory to identify them
backpack, armor, helmet ect
*tactical advantage
lol
but in all seriousness with the zeroing in thing, just try use the same sniping gear to get a feel for teh bullet drop
it's much easier then fucking around with that stuff
alright imma go in a offline and start trying stuff then will go in a raid
Yea it's worth it to just get used to compensating at default zeroing
I've been sniping a lot lately and it feels so good 
Cowboy-hat, stache, m32, t5k and a backup mag + stack of m61 in prison wallet
Why do people leave gzhel armor in the raid? Its not a bad armor afaik, and it wasnt down to 0 either, got myself 2 almost full gzhel that way
i think its because its heavy or found something better and it doesnt sell much if its not fir
But why not just repair and use it?
again its heavy ive dropped like a couple myself since i would find something better and i have a lot of armors that i prefer
I just spent idk 15k on repairing it up to 50 instead of buyinh a full one with 65(?) so thats not that bad i think
I dont have preferences yet aside from korund so there is that. Im just taking everything above lvl 4
it's ceramic and repairs like shit even from mechanic
and that yea
What do you generally do with armor thats on 0?just yeet to fence?
depends on the material tbh if its not steel or poly its usually not worth repairing and the max dur is a big factor
It's at most a two use armor
Im about to lose it lmao. Even the naterial is taken into consideration??
ya
UHMWPE is the best
glass and ceramic are the worst
combined materials armor steel titan all averageish
better materials take less armor damage, repair for cheaper, and lose less durability when repairing
different materials lose durability on shots differently and repair differently
... Ok then
watch pests armor tier list
very generally, if you had 100 dura armor and repaired it from 50/100 with prapor
steel/polymer would go up to 96-ish
combined would go up to 82-ish
ceramic would go 70-ish, maybe even lower
its a good watch and he explains the armors decently
all math is made up by me btw
Hmm. Ok ill keep that in mind. And i will 100% watch pests vid. Gotta learn as much as possible before the next wipe
i am math
Mafs
at what durability should u get rid of ur guns?
Before they drop to 60, you can't sell to traders after that
Scam
Yep
scam
TIL, i guess fence still takes them
nah push the enemy from both sides and you will both live or trade the kill without baiting your teammate
or we both waffle and either kill each other on accident or he kills us both anyway
damn that sometimes happens but if you know what your teammate is wearing and you give positional callouts you have a much higher change of killing them. Eg: someone in second story doorms teammate is on one side and you flank around to sandwich em
instead of standing behind ur teammate and baiting them
why do people lfg ask u to dm them and then they want u to join their server
So they don’t have to stick to the tarkies discord rules?
Isn’t that normal?
looks mostly meta to me
i disconnected on the loading screen and now my pmc gear is gone
my AWOL count is 0 tho
What's up ? I was summoned by fogel
Probably spawned in and died to a PMC
i was just asking about sniping i have trouble tracking/leading
are ghoul masks Halloween event only?
your health down at all?
like in the stash tab
Thats largely because thr movement system in tsrkov has a disconnect from the surface a player is moving on. You don't get any tells on if a target is going to change direction or not.
As far as calculating lead , bullets don't slow down enough to matter in tarkov so you can effectively treat them as constant velocity.
Since they are constant velocity , once you figure out one lead , youve figured out lead for all ranges more or less angular wise.
any good maps to snipe other than woods?
woods tanks my performance when scoping in
Reserve is popular , customs has some nice spots
alright thanks man
interchange?
yep
alr thanks man again
interchange moment
ic sucks as a scav, honestly
you spawn in with like, 15 or 10 minutes left in raid
and most of the good loot is already gone
Here is some info on zeroing most folks miss , tarkov zeroing is more like zeroing iron sights than it is zeroing a scope.
gonna save these for sure
do i lose karma if i kill raiders as a scav?
What guns do you snipe with ?
no
cool thx!
What does zerod mean?
no
it happened a few hours ago tho
Zero or zeroing is where your point of aim (cross hair , dot, iron sight ) and point of impact ( where the bullet lands) match.
In this instance , we are referencing the ammunition each rifle is zerod for because tarkovs has diffent velocities for projectiles for the same gun. This causes a shift along the Y axis compared to where you're aiming
Tarkov treats all zeros as far zeros ^
Ahh so basically really impactful differences only appear past 50m then
Not necessarily .
If you want to test this go into an offline raid with an OP SKS / PSO scope and BP ammo and US ammo and observe where both rounds hit.
You can readily see what happens even at 20m due to the larger shift in velocity
Oof ok. Thats really good to know. Thanks for the clarification mate.
who can i sell this to?
peacekeeper
Ye no worries.
There some other buggy bullshit with FOV and red dots but it's not super noticeable unless you're the type to shoot over 50m with red dots.
(red dots and iron sights anyways )
fence as well
i’ve never tried selling it to peace
All you need is 15
but fence gives like 20-30k if i remember correctly
aint looking too gangsta with the roubles
F
hey im not completely new to tarkov but ive started this wipe late and am very rusty bc of my lack of experience and time off of the game. im trying to get to flea market level but having trouble in solos. im asking if there is a sherpa willing to help me along the few levels more i need for unlocking the flea
im level 9 from playing scav xD i just complete the quests i can as a scav
!sherpahub
What are the best shoreline keys?
quick question with fence is it basically a market with other players?
yes
Trey24k has a pretty good video
this is what most people run, me included.
This is what I have bought so far
I am still learning shoreline so I don't want to spend a shitton just yet but these should get me some dough right?
awh man i missed out on a slick from fence because i had to id it
Any tips for factory? I have to do the quest in which I have to stash a document case at a location
do I camp out the first few minutes or something?
id just push out
doesn't really matter if you die its so fast to reset factory
use it as a chance to practice pvp
yeah but I'll lose my doc case
its in my quest inventory
Absolute best is prob 301 or 222
what's that?
full team
i don't have 4 friends who play tarkov
and from what I hear, people usually get tked when they join a squad
Use any group finder than the one built into the game and you’ll usually be fine
What is east 322
I just checked it’s an unlocked door lmao
Mike I quit tarkov
Good
I’ve never played in a squad with voice chat before and my communication sucks
Prob gonna fuck up or smth
K
someone carry me
Lol
Give me ur stuff
1 btc is my max
My pc is currently under upgrades tho so not atm
come play better games
play leageu
kek no
ok hmu
Cracked on the sticks
now come play without aim assist
it is going to be tough
apex 🤢
in one raid
give me it
head eyes by express scav from 80m away
Why do you do this to me
Always getting gpus while I’m here getting a phase relay
I hate this game
atleast you have flea market
Flea market doesn’t give me found in raid gpus
Also I don’t really use flea I got most my stuff off high level traders
Flea market is only useful for guns and armor
Attachments and stuff are from traders
what about selling stuff?
isn't the phase expensive
Like 10k
oh
So not really
it's 350k
lmao
The thing for lvl 2 gen
Yes that one
18 mil at lvl 28, ultimate ratness
rich man
Nah I’m at school
oof
i would question that but i have a feeling you dont live in the eu
I’m central us
are we gonna hunt for more gpus?
good luck to you guys on your adventure
We spent 5 hours looking and didn’t find even 1
imma go do scav runs to get quest stuff
Sounds fun
its the least i can do
Does anyone have that one reserve key that has the ofz shells in it?
I need ofz pretty bad for a task
name of key?
Uh I can’t remember cus all reserve keys are wired but it the one in the garage by white knight
The curse of Reeses
Indeed
The only gpu I’ve ever found was not it was In a spawn in was in a barrel stash
i found that gpu and 4 tetrizes as I was talking with someone about finding gpus
you'll find one today, i have a feeling
it's harder on london servers cuz more people
Bro London was so easy compared to central us
lol
Us players are so fucking sweaty
Yes for the most part
Last I checked 400k maybe less
it's very profitable
we can also go there if u want
you get to keep the stuff
i need a money case tho
did you loot marked?
I tried
Went to leave and got pushed by a 5 stack
My mp9 did not save me
Apparently a level 1 face shield is not very effective
face shields at all aren't effective
Altyn is really good tho
no headphones
Who needs ears on factory
I use maska helmet on factory all the time
The green one
Very effective
20% fov
That’s enough
Also like tank helmets high bounce change
idk i dont like it
I’ve blocked a mosin round with a tank helmet
God autocorrect is useless
But favorite helmet overall is probably the airframe helmets
If you spend like 2000000000 rubles on them they do really good
Switch your language to some foreign one with the same keyboard and then just type in English, for some reason it works as English but it learns to talk like you talk
My auto fill rn are scav, my name, and btc
It’s great
That sounds like a lot of effort
Not really but
But also suck a typing on a phone so autocorrect can be nice
What keyboard you using?
ios
Hindi (Latin)
Ok
Sometimes I use English (India)
Woods scary
Woods
You’re in one of the villages
You’re by car extract
Yes
ty
well unfortunately a silent scav snuck into the building while i was typing
so im dead
but ty
Fun fun
atleast ill know for next time
Directions are simple if you have outskirt just go southwest until you see the cottage then follow road
yeah ive been told that alot. just need to do the quest
When I get out in like 6 hours I can help if you’re still on
yeah lol i learnt customs now but i wanna learn other maps and all my mates are trying woods so i might as well too
if thats to me then yeah sure thatd be great
I’ve got every map memorized for extracts
What’s like the easiest in order?
Easy to hard
customs was rly easy to me but factories prob easiest since its tiny
if u mean in terms of
learning it
Factory is super easy
idk about how har dthe maps are
Interchange is easy to learn the outside part inside is pretty easy too
Customs is easy too
Reserve is a little harder because of the underground parts
Labs is a maze
Shoreline is like woods but with less trees
Most maps are not hard if you pull up a map online
Labs is the only map that genuinely perplexes me
There is a website that has an interactive map that shows all task items Loot spawns pmc spawns and scav spawns
And extracts
Super nice
Yeah
Shows everything you need
Best map for beginners though is definitely customs
Avoid dorm and you usually get mid to low end pmcs
Though that could just be in the US I don’t know about other places
Although even at dorms most people only rock class 3-5 armor so mid tier bullets should do fine

Also leg meta

It’s pretty effective
I kill chads with shotgun to the legs at least 2 times a day
Anyway I’m bored so if you got a question about tarkov I’ll answer it the best I can
This could be a dumb question but is Customs really worth the risk for farming at low levels? I've had way more luck on Woods
also for low level farming what kit should we bring.
I assume the marked key at 200k isn't worth it considering how contested that room is?
I'm running a vector but I always get out chadded by two thicc boiis
heh "living" would like that to happen to me too
Same
If anyone wants to link up and run some customs im down
i die every raid
feels like with a squad it may be better
Bruh I have 24% surviving rate
14%
25!
why 2 director
Almost all are good
855a1 is
why do you have 2 directors
just keep finding them lol
reasonable
they sell for nothing so i keep them incase i lose it
get a keyring and put it in your ass
cause i usually go to big red alot cause ive had good luck in the pc room
i meant the keys lmfao
bet
should i be using them or just waiting till i get flea market
keyring is the best investment i've made2
who sells it
Ksm worth decent
Depends if you like high risk areas
im not good but i like high risk
thought they were hard to find
pestilence
LMAO
fuck
Wait what
he said
dont
innocent message
why not
when
lot of plague masks
so just that came up my mind
also is there any easy ways to level up. ive been doin my quests but i feel like im missing out on some dumb ez way to get levels
and accidentaly pressed enter
I’ll be back I’m a bit
I got to lvl 29 from lvl 20 without doing tasks
cuz im too lazy
to do tasks
no point in doing them
Just @ me with anything important I’ll get back to you
Funny
wha
when is school ending for u
hours ?
My time
idk your time lmao
Oh about 4-5
5 pm us time?
so 5-6 hours left?
Yes
damn
How popular is the vector rn? Is it pricey to get onto good ammo for it?
which one
So more towards legmeta? Rip or quakemaker?
Those cost as much as ap if you don’t have the traders for them
TBH ap is better of the lot as u can pen face shields pst will work too but ap is ur best bet tbh
I can buy quakemaker
pricey but think its 0 recoil so u wouldnt miss alot
Dude thats 50k a mag lmao
You’re better off running the 45 vector since you can get 45 ap from pk
lol go for pst then but ammo is more important than anything else recoil gun etc..
Not yet
45 Vector slaps, highly recommend using it if you don’t craft 6.3 or have a stock of it
Then don’t run the vector ig
Thats missing the point. So ap ammo it is then
Either spend the money for ap 63 or don’t
Do as you wish but don’t expect to make profit if you’re buying AP 6.3 on the market
Depends on the kit im killing i guess.
player Kits don’t make money
You can try running Luger/quake for leg meta if you have the traders
I can buy quake
anyone know what the patch tomorrow is going to have?
That’s news to me
Just saying if you’re going vector just hold off till mechanic 3 for cheap mags
Also buy pst gzh
Cheaper by a lot and ap isn’t that good anyways
Flesh damage is good enough for it being less than 100
Vectors arnt worth it unless you have high level traders
how does buckshot always seem to head ears me from 100 metres + while I have a facemask and helmet
What shield you using?
wasnt full face I think half face
Well if you’re using the fast helmet your ears are both not protected unless you buy an attachment
Most helmets don’t protect your ears
I didnt think ears were a vital point on the human body
I mean yes but at that point its a headshot
if youre being shot from the front it probably wouldnt be lethal with buckshot
i died and i lost my melee?
It would put you in a coma for sure though
Certain melees like cultist knifes drop on death
cultist knife?
i just saw it in #eft-announcements
no it was like a machette
is there any that protects ears and still lets you have headphones?
sp-9 or something like that
scary ok
funny thing
in tarkov your head is a sphere and the edges of that sphere are ears
even from the front
so you can get shot in the ears from the front
exfil
fast mt but only with excels
Ive lost all drive to play since getting my thicc case
I wish I had one
nothing feels worthwhile for the suffering this game causes now
haha
what are you missing for it
I don’t even know how to get it
just trade the thicc for green
free 20 mill
Keycard
I have never played labs a day in my life
I personally don’t like labs only go there for tasks
holy shit
I only went in during the free labs event
i missed a folder of intel from fence for 80k
Damn
Although I find those all the Tim so it’s not a big deal
Just go customs they are everywhere
they really are
just start going labs if you're bored
i just stopped caring about money
and only go labs now
I’m too poor for that
400k right now
sell your stash 🤷
yea and i like using guns
i got this bad boi from a scav run
In my mind I’d rather have a good time then get a lot of money
why is black team wendy 2x the price of tan
i died with one
yea so
people are trippin
you go lab
cause the tan one is trash
because tan doesn't accept fshield
Guns are fun so I keep them
i ran straight to extract
or you can use them
I do
That’s called strategy
brb gonna go hate my life and barrel stuff kids on factory for jaeger tasks
I dont enjoy the spawns
Eh
other than that its fine
getting tremors and headshots is a bitch on there though
waiting for vodka to kick in is a death sentence
Ever heard of a ks23 flashbang round
can you flash yourself and get tremors?
No
But it’s good for getting people to fuck off
Also just pop painkillers before the fight
Any tips getting early tasks in dorms done at this point of wipe? I'm struggling heavily no matter at which point of raid I go towards that place
Wait
Wait till last 20 mins of raid
go after 25-30 minutes when people will have left
It’s always empty by like 30
I just go in and grab my items and dip
Or just once the shooting stops
IM STUCK
Personally I push instantly but that’s just me
help stepbro
Ask him to follow
@real trellis DOOR STUCK
guess you gotta resort to violence
HE DIED
hes dead jim
Fun
any tips for tarkov shooter part 3?
I have no idea how far 25m is in game
I keep missing because of it
Then another scav player killed me
Uh I just never do tarkov shooter so I don’t even remember what it asks
nvm, 215
what sight rds?
Using a vpo at all and you’re insane
Vpo meta what you mean
Bro I gotta get jaeger 3 for rr
keep dying because of these dookie ass tasks reqs
What the average non flea market user looks like
why are you wearing a 20k mask
i bought it for 3k from fence
well I tried it and died
That’s a steal
i missed out on a slick for 250k aswell
all because i had to id it
Damn
oh dude, i am all time doing 200 ish damage and 100 absorbed by armor
no idea how so many times people actually survive
I did 290 dmge absorbed and 9 dmge before with a shotgun point blank its crazy
any particular strat for punisher pt 4?
currently got 4 kills in 4 days lol
tried sniping, extract camping, going with ok ar, smg
How much would yall say this is
Im gonna brute force these jaegers tasks running naked with a vpo 215
and hope I run into some timmies
wish me luck
gl
for free is a fair price
axel
😆
bruh... this game is epic but jesus i get snapped up quick
Indeed
what about AP for it is that good?
IT COSTS 400K RUBLES TO FIRE THIS GUN FOR 12 SECONDS
if i was gigachad i would try spamming semi auto on this gun
Ap is highest pen in game
just for the memes
sell that shit
Wtf
Yes
Best bullet in the whole game tho
just in case you wanna drop it to me
lol see how much does fence buy this ammo for
for one or all
all
Scam
good price
Sell them for 1 mill each
they sell on flea for like 50k each right?
if i was trader
That’s fair
i would do the same
when traders will be real npcs in eft i will try acting like one

i gotta look at this because i dont have access to flea
Lapua used to go for like 80-130k per bullet
i mean tbh its a fair price for the best bullet in the game
anyone wanna join on me and i can give you all 17 to sell i mean i aint gonna use it
same high price could be for the worst bullet in the game if it was rare
Lapua just needs to be a high level trader item or something to make it more accessible
or nerfed down and made more common
either or
it is
you can buy fmj from jaeger
Can confirm
yeah but how many fuck boys enjoy grinding jaeger tasks
imagine having 500k worth mag
Whats good and whats not?
I have mastered jager
oh
That make me cringe?
sell shotgun rounds T/PRS/PP/PS gs 5.45
m855, pst gzh, sformance, fmj, fmj143, t-45m1, fmj, HP, gsp all dogshit
i mean if you wanna run m4
I only run Adar with it
budget one
sost also poo
^^ or adar
I don’t use m4 though
without access to flea then why not
ak gang?
Yes
naisu
Ak gang for life
74?
47
ty for that
lol
More of an akm guy
101 and 103 best ak's
akm has such a high recoil
😎
Did anyone want to take the AP and sell?
i mean rounds are good but u cannot literally hit anything
Well if it shoots 762 I like it
AP and AP-M rounds are good.
I don’t like m4s they are over used
I hate this game lmao
5.45 bp/bt/bs is my way to go
im a low level i cant sell and most of my guns cant use it
Ignolik rounds have 3rd hugest pen in the whole game
keep it
yeah AP is overkill but AP-m is a really good budget round to run at low levels
but still worse than BS gs
just save it until you hit 15
if you kill a PMC on a raid does his gear counts as "found in raid"? is you put his gear in your inventory ?
mom im scared
Not really lol
No
@mild heath not anymore it used to though
how do i ss ingame?
print screen button
ss?
screenshot
What?
tho if he finds it in raid then it still has fir mark
Il y a des français?
any sane person runs BS over igolnik if they could choose.
but usual stuff from flea/traders isnt fir
id only run igolnik on labs over bs
I just run kedrs man I dont know what BS or Igolnik means
I disagree I prefer ignolik if I find it but I like buying bs due to it being cheaper
why do you prefer ignolnik
High pen fuck shit up
you waste so much ammo on scavs
not even then
its overpen
That’s what a pistol is for
i dont wanna 2 tap t6 helmets if they run them, its the same if i were to hit them 2 times with BS
wat
You bring a pistol for scavs
ahh okay 😄 that make sense whaha. had some gear that i couldnt sell so
its better against t6 chest armor
idk
i think its fine on labs
outside of labs tho i wouldnt use it
you weird ash
Only do it if you use really expensive ammo
igolnik aint even expensive 🥸
Not often but if you’re that worried about I
remember that if you have a run through, automatically every FIR stuff, even if its FIR from other raid (you keep your items in secure container lets say) losses its state
i use lapuas regularly and i will unload those rounds on scavs
Rounds are expensive when you only have 400k
what is FIR ? sorry i'm new to this game lol
Found in raid status
ahh thx
running low though :( gonna sell thicc soon
FIR = F.I.R. = Found In Raid
for some major stonks
close enough
yea good luck
Can someone donate me like 4 gpus I’m poor right now
ive spent half of this wipe and half of last wipe looking for red and blue on shoreline
i cried myself to sleep when i found a green in offline there
i just caved and bought it
good to know 😄 thx
I got a green from an intel scav case
imma see if i can find the ss
i havent even found a ledx from shoreline yet
my luck has been so dogshit
😂
nikita just gave me lego brick from weapon box wtf
What do you mean from box?
im looting rn
Oh In raid
y
100k for that? cmon mayne
I only have 400k so I gotta be as cheap as possible
just do mechanic barter to get a cheaper and identical version for half as much
lol wut
The gun doesn’t even need parts to do good it has no recoil just put stock butt and a sight
Welcome to budget chading academy
Total cost 32k tops
prolly my fav budget build this wipe, its like 100k ish
thats just being a cheap bastard
Yes
my fav "cheap bastard" build is just a kedr-b with sp7
I like mp-155 with choke and fleccette
literal laser gun that chews legs like kibble
nah
not customizable
That’s the charm
lmao
No money spent
my budget-bastard kit is PPSH with 71 rounder
That’s my favorite too
so i can buy it rn?
yea
budgetbastardPPSH? yes
Jesus your more poor than I am
i can drop u a PPSH with bastard mods and we can do 1 bastard raid together
ive spent like 7mil upgrading hideout in last 2 days lol
Start buying of peacekeeper
i am already
theres literally nothing you need to customize on it though lool....
i have ll3
Peacekeeper getting rich of me
super low recoil, really good iron sight, silencer, the recoil doesnt even change if you fold the gun
I spent like 2 mill on hideout 2 days ago
I’ve been poor ever since
My luck is terrible so I never find anything expensive
So it’s hard to make money back
I have that same build I ripped from the hands of a dead pmc
Killed him with a sa-58
my lowest recoil M4 this wipe
It looks wacky
my best m4 this wipe lmaoo
I don’t build m4s
I’m too poor for that
my fav m1a
Damn
dont mind the ergo
same
Let me repeat that I can’t afford to build guns
i dont like aks-74u
Neither do I
I just ment ak platform
not my lowest but my personal favourite
sexy
how expensive
Ak74us are terrible
I did that
300k? with max traders
It sucked
something like that
after that i realized that i overestimated that gun
3 thats in one sentence

my fun gun
I can’t remember but it’s the only -4% recoil grip in game
It reduces ergo
By 1
It starts with RK I think
i would rather have -2% recoil but +6 ergo
reduces ergo
It depends on the gun for me
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Yeah there is a grip that does -4% recoil but reduces ergo
cqr, rk-1, b-25 all reduce 4 but none of them reduce ergo
Budget chad is the way to go
you dont have to focus on stock then
the rk2 does remove ergo tho
why is that sight worth 30k
its sexy
Nice reticle
mrs (sight lol) in my heart ❤️
mrs lol
either skier 4 or then find in raid
How do you get skier 4 again?