at least one person makes 300k
#beginners-assistance
viscid island
lime willow
if you shoot one bullet, you have to make back that 5k
lime willow
in an extended firefight, you're going through 2 mags at least
60 rounds, that's 300k used
stray barn
2 mags full of 5k rounds
unreal imp
That would be 900k for ammunition and assuming everyone else was running kits worth running 900k of ammunition you could make your investment back
worn silo
I can actually
@unreal imp lets say u can half of the community doesnt have that money making u the only one to be able to use it half the community would have to use the bad round to thus making ARMOR USEFUL
stray barn
that reduces the profit from killing
lime willow
but not everyone is loading in as a chad
worn silo
That would be 900k for ammunition and assuming everyone else was running kits worth running 900k of ammunition you could make your investment back
@unreal imp no u couldnt because it isnt found in raid
lime willow
not to mention, FIR
stray barn
you run better ammo, you're more deadly, but you get less profit even when you do kill
unreal imp
So you can't sell it on flea but it is still valuable
worn silo
no it isnt
worn silo
from flea?
lime willow
no
worn silo
selling to traders is much much less
stray barn
^
stray barn
How hard is this to understand for you m3tso?
You spend more money on ammo, so you gain less money overall
worn silo
i dont see how the concept of more expensive ammo means more useful armor doesnt go across to u?
have u even played last wipe?
lime willow
but when you kill a chad, they may be rocking a 300k loadout, but the value is much lower if you just sell that guy's kit to trader
stray barn
He lives in a world of "just get money"
lime willow
you could use it yourself, sure
worn silo
u saw how fucking useless armor was cus everything was cheap
lime willow
but that's not the point of the argument
the point is, there are too many guys running with nukes
so, we make the nukes more expensive = less nukes
unreal imp
I think there should be no armor that stops you from getting killed by players
lime willow
no there isn't, cuz leg meta exists too
worn silo
I think there should be no armor that stops you from getting killed by players
@unreal imp then u clearly dont like having skill to fight
stray barn
I'll break it down as simple as I can:
-Expensive ammo means less people will run top tier ammo
-Less people run top tier ammo which means low tier armor is somewhat viable, and high tier armor is very useful
-When people do run expensive ammo, it's discouraged because they will gain less profit from their kills
unreal imp
Literally the opposite
worn silo
how does literally going through your enemies armor like it doesnt exist skill?
that makes negative sense
stray barn
But there should be armor that slows it. Head,eyes will still be a thing lmao
you just can't leg meta a guy who's kit is worth a mil using a gun worth 20k
unreal imp
@worn silo Its an even playing field with everyone then, only mechanically below average players wouldn't like that very much
worn silo
thats why BT is such a good round
stray barn
Things like the mosin should still stay in imo, noobs need a way to kill geared high level players, and rewarding good aim is nice
lime willow
i for one don't like juggernauts
stray barn
@unreal imp I think you forget there's many many different types of guns
worn silo
@worn silo Its an even playing field with everyone then, only mechanically below average players wouldn't like that very much
@unreal imp if thats your idea of an even playing field even tho technically u are correct thats just a bad take
lime willow
more like, many different kinds of ammo
stray barn
also, if everything top tier is just as viable as a prapor lvl 1 gun, why would you run expensive stuff?
There's no incentive
worn silo
saying everyone has the ammo to pen just proves the point that armor is useless because of ammo
stray barn
and there needs to be
stray barn
No armor just means leg meta but everywhere
worn silo
why would the devs add more than BT BS and 7N39 if they knew no one would use anything else
why would they add M855 if m855a1 exists or M995
it makes no sense
its extra effort for nothing
No armor just means leg meta but everywhere
@stray barn well ye they also need to rework that
unreal imp
It makes a lot of sense but you don't seem to understand
lime willow
i mean, some games do add shit items just for variety's sake
worn silo
ah yes lets add garbage ammo just so no one would ever use it
lime willow
in the end, player-driven meta will settle on a select few gear items
worn silo
sense 10000000
thats the point
meta is good
but meta shouldnt be accsesible for the lvl 10 player
lime willow
does everything need to make sense, im not arguing against "why so many when only need so few"
stray barn
but they should still have an alternative
that's why i defended mosin
because it rewards good aim while still being shit
if a geared player gets overly confident and aggressive, and the mosling 1 taps him, it was his fault
worn silo
does everything need to make sense, im not arguing against "why so many when only need so few"
@lime willow i get that my point was because ammo is cheap and available most armors even the slick which is hailed as the best armor in the game are basically useless
the cost to run a slick is much higher than the 3 shots of m995 it takes to kill u
stray barn
I literally leg meta'd a guy with an altyn using an sks with ps.
worn silo
Sounds like a couple bad players cry about bullets killing them
@unreal imp imagine running out of arguments so u go to insults
stray barn
That shouldn't be a thing
lime willow
the argument there is "armor sucks cuz good ammo is too readily available" vs "why make so many different types of bullets when devs know players will only settle for a select few"
worn silo
btw your argument is im going to buy skill
unreal imp
Why argue when you can't process any arguments that don't go inline with your own 
worn silo
i dont know how you say were bad when your only argument is YES IM GOING TO BUY SKILL
stray barn
there's 3 people disagreeing with you m3tso
worn silo
lol ye
stray barn
maybe youre in the wrong
stray barn
guess he's just too smart for us simpletons to understand
lime willow
anyways, what's your counterargument to "armor is useless"
stray barn
anyways, what's your counterargument to "armor is useless"
i just wanna see this
worn silo
Woah, i know there are a lot of stupid people, i could get maybe even a couple more here with you
@unreal imp again resorting to insults instead of answering a question
stray barn
answer this and ill take you seriously
unreal imp
Look im arguing about as well as you do
stray barn
but right now its just "nooooo i like leg meta"
worn silo
ye why is armor not useless lets hear
lime willow
cuz yea, i can get 3 m995 for 3k roubles, and take down a guy with a 650k slick
stray barn
so youre not gonna answer now that we ask you one question?
lime willow
that's ez +645k
worn silo
@unreal imp why isnt armor useless?
unreal imp
it stops scav bullets
lime willow
how about
stray barn
but what about the majority of the threats, players?
worn silo
lol
lime willow
at least, that's what we're getting so far
stray barn
yeah, so please elaborate
lime willow
I'm gonna give that at least so we're not totally dismissive
worn silo
please do tell us why slicks are 650k while troopers are 70k
unreal imp
Have you familiarized yourself with the penetration chances of 50 pen player bullets against a slick my fellow idiots
Start with researching that
stray barn
How about you answer our question?
unreal imp
I did
worn silo
Have you familiarized yourself with the penetration chances of 50 pen player bullets against a slick my fellow idiots
@unreal imp 650k armor vs 1k bullet that goes through it like butter
HMMMMMMMMM
lime willow
650k to stop a sniper scav one-tap?
stray barn
ye why is slick 650k? lol
Have you familiarized yourself with the penetration chances of 50 pen player bullets against a slick my fellow idiots
you answered a question with a question
lime willow
how about, i just spot the damn fucker from 150m away and snipe him before he has a chance to see me
worn silo
with snb not to mention a 400 ROUBLE ROUND
lime willow
cuz my understanding is that it's worth 650k so i can axe scavs to death, when in practicality I would just shoot them
stray barn
scavs are not a threat at the level you'd be running slicks
worn silo
cuz my understanding is that it's worth 650k so i can axe scavs to death, when in practicality I would just shoot them
@lime willow not even cus they can still black your stomach and then youre fucked
or head eyes u
worn silo
go spend 15 seconds doing surgery then healing yourself from the bleedings
lime willow
in that case, is an anti-scav suit worth 1m
worn silo
not to mention shotgun scavs
lime willow
for full coverage
stray barn
if youre running slicks, I highly doubt youre going to be chasing exclusively scavs
lime willow
i admit this is a rather EXTREME example
worn silo
nah if u youre running slicks its only so u can Snipe scavs from 300 meteres
stray barn
"Lemme buy a kit worth more than a mil, get my meta guns, and then kill some scavs for their THICC loot"
they're scavs
they're fodder
your main threat is always gonna be other players, armor should defend you from other players
worn silo
anybody wanna run with me im level 2 and know nothing i'll totally carry you mhm mhm
@bold kernel i would come but im busy arguing why the game has a low TTK due to the availablity of cheap ammo
lime willow
@bold kernel we got #pvp-lfg if you're looking for like-minded people
I would have recommended !sherpa, but people don't seem to like that response
worn silo
!sherpa
jovial starBOT
Hello @worn silo,
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You can ask for in game help, help on modding you weapons, assistance to do quests... sherpas are here to help.
You can also request sherpas on the main Escape from Tarkov website.
Send a request to a sherpa :
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Help on how to do your request :
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On this discord, you can also use :
● #beginners-assistance : To chat with other beginners and meet sherpas.
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stray barn
having leg meta isn't good, head eyes is annoying, but imo its still fair because they need to have some amount of aim to kill you. You could also just be more aware or sneaky and ambush people before they head eyes you.
lime willow
K O O L
stray barn
sherpa will guide you
lime willow
sherpa = volunteer player that is sanctioned by BSG to help new players
worn silo
the fuck is a sherpa
@bold kernel its like a tarkov volunteer guide
certified volunteer helper
remember they VOLUNTEER
unique quest
can you put a sight on an sa-58?
worn silo
can you put a sight on an sa-58?
@unique quest yes
lime willow
@unique quest you need the extreme duty dust cover, or a handguard with rails
iirc it's called that
!wiki extreme dust cover
broken quailBOT
https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/DS_Arms_Extreme_Duty_dust_cover_for_SA58
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page extreme dust cover for a direct link or !wiki search extreme dust cover for a list of all hits.
stray barn
I can't believe @unreal imp left :(
worn silo
@unreal imp still waiting on an answer to why slicks are 650k when i can kill them with a 1k bullet (like they dont exist that is)
lime willow
he sees you guys/us for hopeless individuals
armor is required because it's a gear slot
worn silo
imagine being that thicc minded
stray barn
I just wish he'd try to explain his argument
lime willow
same
worn silo
his argument is i can buy the ammo so armor shouldnt be useful
stray barn
why should you run slicks when you get 1 tapped by cheap ammo?
worn silo
its exactly what he said
lime willow
well, more like 2-tap but sure
stray barn
ik ik, but my point stands
lime willow
7n1 can one-shot, but bullet velocity affects damage apparently
worn silo
@worn silo Its an even playing field with everyone then, only mechanically below average players wouldn't like that very much
its an even playing field because armor is useless for everyone
stray barn
cheap ammo kill quick, why buy armor that is supposed to make not kill quick
worn silo
7n1 can one-shot, but bullet velocity affects damage apparently
@lime willow armor also has damage reduction if it barely pens so 7N1 will only 1 shot on class 3
lime willow
yey, tarkov shooter ammo
lime willow
my understanding is "if pen = damage * damage-mod-due-to-velocity ; else blunt damage"
unique quest
ok i just realized when youre in the preset editor they dont show you stuff you havent examined
worn silo
@unreal imp https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Ballistics have a read
lime willow
so idk
worn silo
ok i just realized when youre in the preset editor they dont show you stuff you havent examined
@unique quest ye it doesnt unfortunately
lime willow
svd best gun fight me /s
worn silo
technically it is
lime willow
well, it's a great gun
lime willow
what's it, PPK?
lime willow
LMG that shoots 762x54r
worn silo
PKM
worn silo
i mean if they would put that in the game
and u could run it with 7N1 or SNB
armor would be the most useless shit
lime willow
im just taking this from summit1g, but they have announced pkm in some form or another
worn silo
more useless than now
lime willow
either by concept art or a model
worn silo
lime willow
and being able to replace armor plates while in raid as spoils of war
unreal imp
Oh boy can't wait when these 2 are crying about getting shot between plates and armour being useless constantly 
lime willow
but afaik, i feel it serves to nerf armor cuz it's also making blind spots such as the side underneath the armpits
stray barn
yeah it'll be cool
lime willow
so armor is still gonna be serving a diminished role
worn silo
Oh boy can't wait when these 2 are crying about getting shot between plates and armour being useless constantly
@unreal imp i mean u still havent answered a very very simple question even the most new player to tarkov would know the answer to
lime willow
or at least, have some sort of coherent rationalization
stray barn
the difference between leg meta and blind spots is very big
worn silo
ye
his only argument is "i buy skill"
because good ammo makes armors useless it an even playing ground @unreal imp isnt it
stray barn
leg meta you just point at someones leg and bam dead, armor doesn't matter. but with blind spots you gotta know the armor, know where the blind spot is, and then shoot the blind spot all while getting shot at
worn silo
it stops scav bullets
@unreal imp amazing argument to why a 650k armor can be killed by a 1k round
worn silo
@worn silo Its an even playing field with everyone then, only mechanically below average players wouldn't like that very much
@unreal imp its an even playing field for everyone because everyone has access to cheap rounds that pen everything literally proving the point armor is useless
I think there should be no armor that stops you from getting killed by players
@unreal imp armor shouldnt work because i have money rounds
like what are these arguments
lime willow
in short, his answer to "why does armor feel useless" is "because it should"
worn silo
That would be 900k for ammunition and assuming everyone else was running kits worth running 900k of ammunition you could make your investment back
@unreal imp because im running 900k in ammo that means everyone can right?
But can't those bullets still penetrate the good armour and armour is still "useless"
@unreal imp bullets eventually pen useful armor so its till useless
lime willow
while i agree that no armor should make any player invincible, it should still give them an edge because they paid more for it
worn silo
The price doesn't matter at all, players will have ammo even if it the price was 5 times more
@unreal imp price doesnt matter for all of the community just has the cash
fiery latch
I keel reshala
lime willow
but they just end up taking only fractions of a second more to kill
stray barn
I was playing factory, I messed up and peaked while taking pks, he shot me and it took him about 2 seconds extra because he was shooting me in the body. in this situation, armor worked. he couldve 1 tapped me in the head with aim, but instead he poured everything into my thorax. then my armor broke and i died immediately
worn silo
ye people dont get that BT does the same as BS or 7N39
or SP-5 is just as good as 7N12
fiery latch
SP-5 is definitely worth it but if you can I would say go for SP-6
stray barn
armor should make you harder to kill
fiery latch
SP-6 and SPP is a difference of 1 or 2 bullets
stray barn
that's our argument
unreal imp
@lime willow It is what armor does now, these 2 don't quite get how armour being a little more expensive than running ap bullets doesn't make it straight up useless, arguing this doesn't help the matter since they are not able to make up their mind and they don't have complete understanding of the way armour behaves with current bullet types from what i have seen them arguing. Ill just keep them blocked until they grow up in a couple years.
stray barn
I'd just like to say I never run expensive armor, and use leg meta guns a lot.
fiery latch
Currently, people with less than on par armour are already having a hard time killing people
With say, tier 6 armour
stray barn
They blocked us lmao
worn silo
@lime willow It is what armor does now, these 2 don't quite get how armour being a little more expensive than running ap bullets doesn't make it straight up useless, arguing this doesn't help the matter since they are not able to make up their mind and they don't have complete understanding of the way armour behaves with current bullet types from what i have seen them arguing. Ill just keep them blocked until they grow up in a couple years.
@unreal imp lmao we dont know how armor works running expensive armor means nothing when BS M995 7N39 and others are that cheap
fiery latch
Who blocked you?
stray barn
m3tso
lapis mauve
I’d rather use lvl 4 armor and m61 than slick and m80
stray barn
Ill just keep them blocked until they grow up in a couple years.
@unreal imp
I use lvl 4 all the time
lime willow
stray barn
those armored tac rigs, + penis helm
lime willow
mind the timestamp
stray barn
cheap, somewhat effective, plus rig space
worn silo
@fiery latch @unreal imp doesnt have an argument to why slick is 650k but BS is 1k
unreal imp
Didn't i answer that you t
lime willow
but i might have missed that point in the discussion
worn silo
Didn't i answer that you t
@unreal imp u never answered why slick is 650k
im still waiting on the answer to why slick is 650k
stray barn
if i remember correctly, you answered with a question
unreal imp
Armour is more expensive than bullets, its such a simple concept to understand, price is not equal to effectiveness
stray barn
but it should be
fiery latch
@fiery latch @unreal imp doesnt have an argument to why slick is 650k but BS is 1k
@worn silo I mean slick is like 500k and yeah, armour at that price is worth it.
stray barn
you should get what you pay for
worn silo
@worn silo I mean slick is like 500k and yeah, armour at that price is worth it.
@fiery latch its not
stray barn
if you put more money into an expensive kit, it should be worth the money
worn silo
https://youtu.be/Gv02lcptroo?t=109
@lime willow watch this and u will understand why its not worth it @fiery latch
lime willow
@fiery latch the argument is "which should win: 500k or 3k"
unreal imp
You can tank a couple 7.62 bp with a slick and it has still enough durability to tank most of lower tier rounds
stray barn
Low tier rounds
unreal imp
but no point arguing with this brainlet
stray barn
which nobody uses
fiery latch
I just run cheap ass trooper armour
stray barn
everyone with flea, so lvl 10+ runs the highest tier ammo
worn silo
but no point arguing with this brainlet
@unreal imp why dont u answer caisers question cus both me and c are stupid
worn silo
@unreal imp go on answer caisers question if we both are stupid
worn silo
just saying that AK74 fires around 10 rounds per seconds and it takes 3 to kill a player with slick in the chest with BS
stray barn
You can tank a couple 7.62 bp with a slick and it has still enough durability to tank most of lower tier rounds
this is the issue with your argument. you bring up tanking low tier ammo as a reason its worth the price, but nobody uses low tier ammo because the best ammo is already so cheap
worn silo
just saying that killing a 3 man wearing 1.5 mil worth of armor takes 9k roubles in less than a second @unreal imp
fiery latch
I would like the better armours to be cheaper
stray barn
making the top tier ammo more expensive means more people will run lower tier ammo, making armor more effective
lime willow
the problem is, Toast and C are arguing the fact that "armor is useless because high-pen ammo is widely available", and the counterpoint would be "no, armor still serves some purpose despite this supply of m995/igolnik/etc"
worn silo
thats also taking "low tier ammo" into aaccount
the problem is, Toast and C are arguing the fact that "armor is useless because high-pen ammo is widely available", and the counterpoint would be "no, armor still serves some purpose despite this supply of m995/igolnik/etc"
@lime willow it does def have an impact
ill never say a trooper hasnt saved me
stray barn
my argument is it's not as useful against players as it should be
lime willow
if you read what i have typed, you will see im focusing on high-pen ammo
your trooper wont block any damage (or much damage) from 762x54r rounds perse
lime willow
same for igolnik and likewise
worn silo
thats exactly my point
worn silo
i can shoot 2 full BS mags for less than the price of a trooper
lime willow
yes armor has an impact, but not for higher-pen ammo as it should be giving
worn silo
i dont know how that doesnt add up to being too strong
lapis mauve
Lvl 5 and less is for scavs and poor players
stray barn
or spend less money on armor and leg meta people who run expensive gear
that's how i do it
worn silo
@lime willow watch this and u will understand why its not worth it @fiery latch
@worn silo @lapis mauve
lapis mauve
Slick will stop 1-4 shots of some meta ammo but 0 of others
worn silo
it wont
slick MIGHT stop 1 m995
emphesis on the might
but then again youre firing M995 at 800 RPM
lime willow
a very low chance
lapis mauve
995 has a 23% chance of penning first shot
worn silo
995 has a 23% chance of penning first shot
@lapis mauve again youre shooting 14 rounds down range your also not factoring armor material into that
lapis mauve
Like I said, it will stop 1-4 shots of some top tier ammo. If someone sprays you you still die
worn silo
armor material plays a huge factor in bullet pen
lapis mauve
Wow, it’s almost like we are saying the same thing but then you have some wrong info mixed in
worn silo
wow its almost as if u have the incorrect info cus this has been TESTED A MILLION TIMES
@lime willow watch this and u will understand why its not worth it @fiery latch
@worn silo watch this 5 second clip
OMFG i hate myself
lapis mauve
Please show me where 995 has 60+ pen
worn silo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv02lcptroo&start=109 watch this clip
lime willow
oh, twas a quote
unreal imp
I see a lot of blocked messages going by
lime willow
because we are still discussing
lapis mauve
I saw that when it came out
unreal imp
Id recommend you to switch to this view as well
lime willow
even if you're not the one being called out
unreal imp
Much more pleasing
spice otter
Breh, I’m scrolling back. How long has this argument discussion been going on?
lime willow
they do have you in the back of their minds tho
unreal imp
I stopped 15 mins ago
lime willow
i jumped in about 20 minutes ago, idk
spice otter
It goes on forever lol
worn silo
Breh, I’m scrolling back. How long has this
argumentdiscussion been going on?
@spice otter i dont know but somewhere @unreal imp decieded he doesnt have a counter agrument and decided to insult and then block me
unreal imp
I never insulted the idiot or maybe i did
worn silo
I never insulted the idiot or maybe i did
@unreal imp arent i blocked?
unreal imp
But it is the correct word to use
worn silo
lol
spice otter
Mate, I don’t wanna hear the drama. Not my monkeys not my circus.
lime willow
where it all began
lapis mauve
I think I’m going to block him too since he thinks ammo with 47-53 pen has 60+ pen . . .
spice otter
Yo, yeah, I remember reading that like 30 minutes ago
stray barn
he blocked me too lmao
worn silo
I think I’m going to block him too since he thinks ammo with 47-53 pen has 60+ pen . . .
@lapis mauve never said that
he blocked me too lmao
@stray barn he just replied to me
stray barn
"I don't have counter argument so I'm going to block"
yeah but he keeps saying he blocked you
worn silo
ye i dont get it
lapis mauve
You said 995 will most likely pen slick on the first shot
stray barn
try to dm him so you can see if youre actually blocked
worn silo
You said 995 will most likely pen slick on the first shot
@lapis mauve no i said because youre firing 14 Rounds down range in 1 second it doesnt matter if u pen on the first shot
if i did say m995 would be on the first round im mistaken and i know that
lapis mauve
slick MIGHT stop 1 m995
@worn silo
lime willow
so to CLEAR THE NITTY GRITTY, the main argument is about the role armor plays in the upper echelons of pvp
worn silo
so even if it did stop one
@worn silo i love that u left this out @lapis mauve
lime willow
is someone wwearing a slick, worth 500k rb, supposed to die in 5 shots of M995, worth 5k total;?
lapis mauve
Slick will most likely stop 2 shots of 995. Rof + armor damage making the 3rd+ shots pen doesn’t mean the first 2 magically pen as well
stray barn
which wont make a difference if you live or die, unless you are peaking cover
lime willow
that's the discussionm
lapis mauve
I never said it was significant, I was merely pointing out 995 won’t pen on the first shot like some people think
lime willow
im sure toast and C appreciate the input, but it doesn't move the discussion forward
im sure they even know that
unreal imp
These dudes said i need to study tarkov ballistics btw
lime willow
but it's rather about the drastic price difference that 500k is supposed to protect you for
and the extreme availability = cheapness that high-pen ammo has
it's not ballistics, it's economy
stray barn
I'm just playing factory with da boys rn
worn silo
the m4 at 800 rpm shoots 13.3 rounds per second x 53 pen at 40 damage = 532 damage a second @lapis mauve @unreal imp
stray barn
my point is that fractions of a second won't make a difference in the middle of a fight
meaning the armor still isn't all that useful
lime willow
it's NOT A GAMEPLAY ISSUE, it's a PRICE ISSUE
worn silo
it's NOT A GAMEPLAY ISSUE, it's a PRICE ISSUE
@lime willow that was the agrument from the start
but people in this chat are thicc headed
stray barn
part of it at least
lime willow
the crux of it
stray barn
my main issue is leg meta, which will be fixed with the armor rework
worn silo
my main issue is leg meta, which will be fixed with the armor rework
@stray barn leg meta is another issue
stray barn
leg meta just makes armor completely useless imo
worn silo
ye but thats not the argument but technically thats true
stray barn
if I'm gonna die in .1 seconds to the legs, why defend my chest?
Ik it isn't
but it's my argument
worn silo
still a valid one
unreal imp
When the calculation doesn't work in the slightest with the penetration chance mechanics
worn silo
u know theres an app for the pen calculation right?
also arent i blocked?
why are u responding if im blocked?
are u psychic?
stray barn
My argument is that armor isn't useful enough to pay hundreds of thousands of roubles to get because of things like leg meta
which is why i use cheap armor that doubles as a tac rig
its cheap enough to buy because its useful against scavs, and i dont need to waste money on a tac rig
the same doesn't apply to slicks because of it's price
unreal imp
I see you responding and i can click to see blocked messages, sadly when opening the blocked box of surprises i haven't found any signs of intelligence; just like some exoplanets
worn silo
i mean i know the ballistics system u clearly dont
¯_(ツ)_/¯
and i dont resort to slinging insults and blocking people because i dont know the game
unreal imp
Ah yes and m995 will pen slick on first shot, go study more
worn silo
selective reading again
again i proved my point
u havent said a single half valid argument
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lapis mauve
He probably doesn’t bring meds either, since if he gets hit once he thinks he took 500+ damage and died
worn silo
again not what i said
youre picking at the nitty gritty because u clearly dont understand the concept time and the armor system
if u cant understand that shooting 5k and deleting 500k in less than a second u are quite hopeless in my opinion
and again i proved my point with calculations
u just said hehe 1 shot doesnt pen 🙂
even tho u litterally proved the m995 has more than a 20% chance of penning on first round
and again not mentioning that youre firing a minimum of 14~shots a second
¯_(ツ)_/¯
stray barn
baba booey
stray barn
in short: we say armor isn't useful enough, other guy says it's fine
worn silo
problem he didnt even say that xD
stray barn
other guy says slick is worth 650k because it defends against scav bullets*
worn silo
ebik
fiery latch
HAHAHAHAHAH
If you think buying armour for 500k just to defend against scavs
You might be the worst player in the game
stray barn
@unreal imp
iron atlas
I am new to tarkov looking for help please
worn silo
cuz yea, i can get 3 m995 for 3k roubles, and take down a guy with a 650k slick
@lime willow
it stops scav bullets
@unreal imp
yes
cloud rover
Just commit head eyes
stray barn
^
fiery latch
Exactly
worn silo
@stray barn "just get money"
stray barn
ikr lmao
"all the poor people will just get money and use top tier ammo, changes nothing"
cloud rover
The ppsh recoil eats the legs first and the kick points the muzzle at the enemy's head
stray barn
leg meta gay
cloud rover
Head meta
stray barn
that's been one of my main points
cloud rover
???
worn silo
blunt damage meta
stray barn
why wear armor when you'll get leg meta'd instantly
fiery latch
The real question is
worn silo
who needs to fucking pen just kill them with a hammer
cloud rover
Hitting your enemy meta
stray barn
head meta pog because they need to at least TRY to hit you in the head
fiery latch
Why bring anything in raid when you can just befriend a chad :D
stray barn
why not
worn silo
EQEQEQEQE
cloud rover
Hitting your shin on the wall is already painful enough
worn silo
"WE GOT A FUCKING RAT BOIZ KILL EM"
cloud rover
I'm gonna be your fucking end
worn silo
@cloud rover just 360 off the top of reserve
fiery latch
Clearly youve never felt a scooter hit your shin
cloud rover
It's usec 3 or nothing
gentle stratus
Clearly you don't like being kicked in the balls
worn silo
CBT is the best
cloud rover
(Cock, balls)
fiery latch
Apparently getting kicked in the balls is 1000x more painfull than giving birth
cloud rover
Balls meta when
fiery latch
(Ass, Right cheeks)
cloud rover
Divide my cheeks
worn silo
i wonder if i can make a parabola using Cock and Balls as variables
fiery latch
l-;
worn silo
Cock = Balls^2+2balls+4
fiery latch
You're russian ?
cloud rover
Wasn't davai like go
"come on" from Google translate
Come on boy
Yeah makes sense
gentle stratus
🙂
worn silo
What changes the vert recoil?
@brisk orchid mods like handguard stock pistol grips and grips
some sights will remove 1 recoil but that doesnt make much of a difference
worn silo
no problemo babe
brisk orchid
My m4 is at 72 vert recoil and the first couple shots are off so want to try to improve that
worn silo
the initial kick of weapons usually stays about the same
the recoil after the initial kick is usually what the stat entails
but the recoil stat does change the initial kick
brisk orchid
Gotcha, in the range it seemed pretty good. maybe i'll keep it
worn silo
what lvl are u?
brisk orchid
25
worn silo
then u should have some decent modding options
brisk orchid
Decent
worn silo
skier has decent attachements that reduce recoils
u also can buy stuff off flea but thats overpriced
u can buy a better grip for around 5k the will reduce youre recoil by a tad bit
if u have skier 2
brisk orchid
Yeah looking into it, thanks bro
gritty pawn
anyone had some spare time to help me on a task? D:
glacial sorrel
what task @gritty pawn
fast rivet
what region
gritty pawn
Na
fast rivet
oof
fast rivet
australia
gritty pawn
to see how much pin
fast rivet
slender vapor
@gritty pawn I’m helping a mate out on that quest too
fiery latch
How would I go about leveling up charisma ?
slender vapor
I’m in NA as well
We’re planning to do a raid in 10-15 mins if you want to join us
gritty pawn
D: @slender vapor whenever u got a litlte space, put me in
slender vapor
Bet
gritty pawn
sure, i need some fast tho , i just need the task 😄
slender vapor
Fast? How do you mean?
gritty pawn
i mean, im not looking for long raids, just the task or so
slender vapor
Sure
small bear
@slender vapor mind if I join?
small bear
sure, and no worries
slender vapor
you want the invite?
small bear
yeah
twilit spindle
if im a broke bitch, m1911a1 with .45 AP rounds, is that a solid option?
lime willow
i mean, if you're broke and have nothing else, anything is better than nothing
twilit spindle
I gotta work on my english.
at the start the m1911a1 was widely regarded as a shitty gun.
It got buffed a bunch.
supposedly.
with AP rounds is it okay now?
lime willow
the AP rounds make it a contender for pistol running (can be reliable to fighting up to Level 4 armor), but mag size will be the limiting factor
twilit spindle
11 round mags now.
so not terrible.
Five Seven is still king but for the five seven money id rather have an ADAR.
lime willow
70 base damage is good enough
twilit spindle
christ for the five seven money i think I could buy a p90.
lime willow
if you are confident in landing shots, sure
yeah, i might be opting for M9 with peacekeeper's AP rounds
i underestimated the cost of a 5-7 after getting peace-3
iron atlas
I am pretty new to the game and looking for help (NAC)
twilit spindle
plus
theres something lowkey elegant about getting pistol kills
then getting another gun and keeping on.
drop a scav or a PMC
suddenly im kitted up.
open lance
whats up everyone
twilit spindle
the ceiling.
zealous tusk
whats the op-sks worth in flea?
bold kernel
Trying to ad the pt-1 for my AKS. I cant add it for some reason. Any thoughts?
lime willow
you need the PT lock attachment for it
bold kernel
😚
gray jay
Anyone have an idea how many mags of ammo i'd need to bring into a raid for training recoil?
sage lance
As many as you can hold of the cheapest stuff you can get your hands on
fallen plover
hop into an offline raid?
sage lance
Not for training recoil
fallen plover
why
fallen plover
offline raid works if your just trying to improve?
stray barn
its a stat hes leveling ya ding dong
fallen plover
oh i though he meant to learn the recoil patterns and how to stabilize it hahahah
sage lance
There are no recoil patterns, but your in game character can train to control recoil better automatically
fallen plover
there are definitely recoil patterns
sage lance
First shots kick up, then kinda stagnate near the top
Recoil skill makes the first shots kick up less
fallen plover
yes, but it obviously depends on the weapon ur using, mods etc
sage lance
Different calibers have different amounts of kick, but keep same basic pattern
fallen plover
exactly, thats what i though he meant. If thats the thing ur trying to figure out, hoping into an offline raid could help
wise oriole
Hey anyone looking for someone to play with? still fairly new here and hoping to find folks to play with
fallen plover
na?
river wind
help i dont know how to play this game i need to do my tasks
lime willow
the wiki is a great place to go to for quest guides, or is it related to "i keep dying, please stop killing me"?
spice trellis
First shots kick up and then it falls back down and stays on the new lower spot. It's really unintuitive.
empty belfry
Australia player here, looking to group up with some people
mellow maple
I bought this game yesterday and I have a question, when I get through Factory really fast, the game tells me that I did like a "Speed run" type raid? I'm really confused about this as it's in red, I'm not sure whether speeding through the raid is bad thing.
I only did it because I killed on guy and he had a AK-74U.
worldly oasis
if you extract without the "survived" status then everything you found is not found in raid
then you cant sell it on the flea market
raw zenith
i think it has to be over ten mins too
teal wave
This is more of a curiosity but...why does everyone on the Flea Market crave Sugar so much? Is it some important crafting component?
mellow maple
I'm not even level ten yet so I can't even see the Flea Market.
real vapor
Bored DM me if you want to learn how to get rich easy and fast
tawdry flare
hola can somone please sell the arablet patriot kw mount for mosin please
sand granite
So I have a labs keycard and I was wondering if going offline labs and setting scav difficulty to hard/impossible with density set to high is a good way to practice firefights, I'm good against the scavs in online raids but I feel I lack speed and fluidity against PMCs
Or is "as online" a harder difficulty than hard/impossible
empty belfry
Why are other player scavs killing me when I'm a scav? Is there any way to avoid this?
Really annoying when the first scav to see me starts shooting
sand granite
Because you have loot or just to get rid of competition probably
sand granite
I mean I don't trust player scavs as a scav either
empty belfry
My first experience with player scavs was friendly and cooperative. complete strangers. ran with a group of 3-4 scavs
guess i'll start killing everyone on sight then
bold kernel
yesterday I met 4 friendly scavs in interchange
tawdry flare
hola can somone please sell the arablet patriot kw mount for mosin please
fiery latch
So should i just kill all scavs then?
@empty belfry over time you will be able to distinguish between real scavs and player scavs, real scavs wont kill you when you load in as a scav however player scavs will. I usually just kill them all for loot
weary relic
Can someone help me out, from the little research I did, the left numbers of the scope, are it's magnifications, yet the 4-16 scope on the left, has more zoom than the 3-24 scope on the right, can someone explain
shell lotus
any1 wanna play eu?
cinder hound
@empty belfry
Ya shoot all scavs
But
If u wiggle and they dont wiggle back
If u try to play friendly
hardy salmon
@weary relic there should be a setting in your control panel called scope zoom, I don’t know what it’s normally toggled to but ads and click it with the less zoomed one
weary relic
I know how to toggle the zoom, but even then, fully zoomed in, the scope on the left still sees farther than the one on the right
Actually, I don't know which one, but I think one of these doesn't even have a zoom toggle
cinder hound
@teal wave
weary relic
I'm putting one on an SR 25
cinder hound
Sugar is used for crafting moonshine
weary relic
I don't want it to see too far because I want to be able to use it midrange
cinder hound
Moonshine is then used for scav case to gamble for loot
weary relic
possibly close range
cinder hound
The loot if gives is found in raid, and they are looking for streamer items such as pestilys mask or shroud mask
Thats why everyone wants sugar
hardy salmon
Go with the one on the right
cinder hound
If u ask why they want streamer items, u need 1 of each found in raid for a quest to get kappa
If u dont know what kappa is, its a version of alpha container or gamma or watever, the biggest one in the game.
weary relic
Richo, at this point I'm just trying to understand how to read the magnification on my own, so I don't have to ask
cinder hound
Hopefully thats enough information for u to know why people want sugar on the flea market
hardy salmon
@weary relic get whatever scope you want but for close range slap this on the front https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/NcStar_MPR45_Backup_mount
fiery latch
Hella expensive though
hardy salmon
That’s cheap for a lot of sights
fiery latch
Pk-06 are 35k for a sight
hardy salmon
And that mount can only fit a few sights
fiery latch
I just buy the eotech type 0
hardy salmon
You’re looking at just over 65k
fiery latch
Its 184 dollars ~ 22k roubles from peacekeepr
hardy salmon
Which is a decent build
hardy salmon
I recommend buying an ak, slapping on a bastion with a spectr and putting a pbs-4
Ez sniper
Just don’t run t45
Tracers aren’t good for sniping
hardy salmon
That’s why there’s beginners help
I’ve personally showed 30 something hatchlings how to be rats on interchange
That VC works miracles for loot spawns
barren berry
I’ve personally showed 30 something hatchlings how to be rats on interchange
@hardy salmon
hardy salmon
“I got a graphics card what’s that”
barren berry
Rat brother
hardy salmon
What separates me from other rats is I’m a true rat
barren berry
Are you active or static one?
hardy salmon
Take from the rich and kill the poor at extracts
Either or
I only extract camp other rats because I know that’s where the loot is, unfortunately they only show up when I scav in so getting a preferred kit it hasn’t proven to work
barren berry
passive rat
bold kernel
Can you sell keys and containers on the flea market if they're not found in raid?
barren berry
Holy, i thought they died
steel grove
Can you sell keys and containers on the flea market if they're not found in raid?
@bold kernel no
hardy salmon
Like I’ve camped manhole 50 times as a player and no one shows, but I go scav and the whole server goes
barren berry
Didnt got camped at the exists this patch
bold kernel
Ty
raw zenith
@hardy salmon absolute scumbag
hardy salmon
Only rats get the gun
barren berry
true exit camper
true exit rat
hardy salmon
I leave the chads be because they have no good loot
barren berry
chaotic evil
steel grove
A true rat would never fall for an extract camper
raw zenith
youre not changing my mind
hardy salmon
Knows every loot spawn, has all the keys, has a big ass rig, is going to be at the manhole 6 minutes into the raid
steel grove
A true rat has a trizip for a secure container
hardy salmon
No a true rat has the knowledge of the entire map, heavily trafficked areas, spawns, keys, camp spots, peak holes, the whole entire map down to the inch
Oh and they exit camp
As a not so brave man once said “find the heavily trafficked areas, and camp the fuck out of them”
raw zenith
i have no time for this
shell lotus
why does this game load so fucking slow out of nowhere
scenic pagoda
That stinks. I kill reshalla + 3 guards. Last guard gets me...
barren berry
@hardy salmon im an active rat tho
hardy salmon
I can be an active rat too
shell lotus
hope this game dies im done
hardy salmon
But extract camping is more fun lol
barren berry
1 shot - change position
Dont get spotted - main task
But extract camping is more fun lol
@hardy salmon 30 mins of chatting and 15 mins of actual shooting
hardy salmon
@scenic pagoda I froze while fighting killa, killa didn’t get me, I got head-jawed from 200m by his guard
@barren berry 30 min of playing on my phone, 2 seconds of pew pew and 3 ledxes for me
barren berry
@barren berry 30 min of playing on my phone, 2 seconds of pew pew and 3 ledxes for me
@hardy salmon same
Thats why it is boring
ruby robin
so, is there finally a factions system in place or is it still just a random thing everybody ignores?
raw zenith
im guessing everyone ignors it
hardy salmon
I find it very rewarding when it’s a ttv
unreal imp
Its just voicelines and clothing still
ruby robin
-.-
so still pretty much useless to play solo
unreal imp
Playing solo is good, but it is always easier to kill squads as a squad
hardy salmon
Not always
shell lotus
i wanna complain so much
hardy salmon
Sniping solo can have a higher survival rate rather than in a squad
unreal imp
Depends how much pvp you chase when playing solo and in squads
ruby robin
sniping solo is boring and not exciting.
it was announced back in the day having factions (which it does have but they´re completly worthless and ignored)
why select them when it has zero effect :(
So disappointed in spending the money for edge of darkness and a main part of the game is non existant.
Anyway, thanks for the heads up.
hardy salmon
@unreal imp I chase all of it when I’m sniping
And by chase I mean I sit in grass on woods and let people run into my sights
But I sit in high pop areas
raw zenith
@hardy salmon I'm not really sure why you're trying to justify your scumbag playstyle
hardy salmon
Because it gets kills and loot better than any other
Unless your play style is cheating on labs
nocturne monolith
does armored rig count as body armor for the kill scavs without body armor mission for jaeger?
unreal imp
@hardy salmon I get kills better by just going to loot hotspots and killing all the other players there
Of course the risk of dying is a little higher
And if there are no players to kill you can just loot and go again
fiery latch
How do I level up charisma?
raw zenith
anyone fancy jumping on Factory and letting me kill them with a pistol ha ha
this mission is doing my head in!
still crystal
I don’t think that would count, but I feel your pain
raw zenith
yeah i know it wouldn't, just wanted to vent my frustration ha ha
fiery latch
;-;
still crystal
What is the chance of Shturman having RR
raw zenith
i fucking done it!!! thank god!
if the person on factory trying to kill me from on otp of the pumping station id here, thanks for being terrible
steel grove
What is the chance of Shturman having RR
@still crystal like 1/100 prbl
raw zenith
well more terrible than me anyway ha ha
real vapor
Dm me if you want to learn how to get rich easy
stuck junco
@still crystal A lot easier than you think, but then me and my duo main woods so, we see him a lot. Made like 2-3mil off that map this wipe just by pvping (From selling, we've used most the gear we get)
whole gorge
these are my keys for shoreline, are they anymore keys do you guys recommend ?
whole gorge
that dosnt help friend, im sorry. there are some usless keys and i dont have the sicc yet.
still crystal
Im pretty sure most resort keys are good
stuck junco
One second
whole gorge
thank you
still crystal
203 has a red keycard spawn
whole gorge
yes, i have that one.
stuck junco
bold kernel
should I give the folder to skier or the therapist?
burnt bone
Would anyone like to help me kill the Sanitizer ? for my quest to get his bag? I play on the Miami servers
dire rock
@bold kernel skier, otherwise hes going to want 1m roubles and hes harder to get rep for
bold kernel
Just to make sure Im talking about "Supply Plans", thanks @dire rock
dire rock
ye
bold kernel
many thanks
dire rock
np
ruby robin
anyone has a screenshot for me of how the ingame map looks like?
Is it anything like the maps from https://mapgenie.io/tarkov or rather not?
and yes, obviously you won´t see spawns ingame, that´s for sure. but things like exits would be great, maybe after having them discovered and then marked on the map?
distant nova
@ruby robin
no
the ingame maps dont at all
the ingame maps are terrible dont buy them
use the map genie maps
still crystal
Do armored tac rigs count as armor for Cliff Descent
raven gazelle
no
sly remnant
so i just lost my best scav run yet due to a glitch where when i moved my items they just started flashing
worn silo
so i just lost my best scav run yet due to a glitch where when i moved my items they just started flashing
@sly remnant thats a connection issue i think
sly remnant
well it had to drop right at the end when im moving loot didnt it now i lost like a good 200-400k factory run on a scav
like im only lvl 11 tht has me deadass mad
worn silo
i mean u couldve just stopped looting and extracted
sly remnant
i had extracted
thats wht im saying
i was in the scav to stash screen
when it all started flashing once i moved it
so now i lost it all
sly remnant
thats y im mad
it took me 6mins jst to get out cause i was 40bleed on 20hp trying to move past 2 pmc players
like this game URGHHHH
worn silo
it do be like that
ruby robin
Thanks @distant nova
Maps on tablet it is 👍🏻
scenic pagoda
My god. Woods is just a shit map lol
As soon as you take a shot... You get sniped by zillion other pmc
drifting jolt
@scenic pagoda Be a better sniper then, it's a great map if you like sniping and pvp
Use suppressors
bold kernel
Uhh so any advice on how to not shit myself every time there's gunfire?
kindred gazelle
Play more and engage in more gunfights
stuck junco
@bold kernel Go do a scav run, w/e you have on the scav use for your PMC. If you die you die, nothing lost.
You can rince and repeat every 20 minutes
worn silo
Uhh so any advice on how to not shit myself every time there's gunfire?
@bold kernel honestly u just get used to it u get the feeling of if its not 100 meters away i dont really care
fast lintel
that was a decent scav run killed 3 people and i got fuel and some other decent stuff
didnt survive though
was trying to find the extract and died to someone hiding
spice trellis
Yeah I always get outratted on my scav runs too
scenic pagoda
Such bullshit
I run a full armor load out. I get one shot headshot on labs.
Never going labs again...
worn silo
wabs
storm wasp
hello im beginner and i really wanna to play with someone and have great time i dont wanna loot i just looking for temmate and for great time in this game
vernal iris
2 Qs: Does the matchmaking in this game consider level/experience or am i going up against gods? When should I start raiding with armor and helmets...etc. Im just entering raids with a gun, ammo, first aid, backpack, and tactical kit, but even then that's all so expensive, am i doing it right?
worn silo
2 Qs: Does the matchmaking in this game consider level/experience or am i going up against gods? When should I start raiding with armor and helmets...etc. Im just entering raids with a gun, ammo, first aid, backpack, and tactical kit, but even then that's all so expensive, am i doing it right?
@vernal iris theres no matchmaking in tarkov it just throws u in the best ping match 2nd every raid should have an objective create a kid around that objective
vernal iris
like my own personal objective, or maybe base it off my tasks? Im on the 2 initial tasks, for customs its kill 5 scavs and collect 2 shotguns, never once seen a shotgun
worn silo
like my own personal objective, or maybe base it off my tasks? Im on the 2 initial tasks, for customs its kill 5 scavs and collect 2 shotguns, never once seen a shotgun
@vernal iris preferably your own personal objective cus your personal objective could be doing a task
pale shoal
Doing tasks will help you a lot
vernal iris
kk will focus more on that, so far i just want to make it to an extraction point on PMC once, never have. If I play slow and scared, I die, if I play more offensive and look for fights, I die lol
worn silo
also to increase your survival rate dont stray off your objective
if u have an objective stick to it
spice trellis
My best advice to noobs is play your scav as much as possible
worn silo
dont go looting or fighting for no reason
vernal iris
yeah im playing scav as often as i can, try to get a kill or two and some minor loot, then extract asap
so for this shotgun task from the perv dealer, are those just anywhere/on anyone?
vernal iris
ty, yeah trying to only focus on customs a ton so i can learn it, getting it down a bit which is nice
spice trellis
Yes you will need toz and mp-133 for early tasks and you find them on scavs very regularly
pale shoal
good idea lol, This will help you with what ammo is better as well https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Ballistics
spice trellis
Not that you really have any choice as a noob
pale shoal
^^
spice trellis
Just buy the worst ammo which is the only one available and die everytime you find good ammo in raid
vernal iris
im following the beginner pdf guide and just going with that first weapon it recommends
spice trellis
Any ammo that has a B in the name is good, if it starts with a number its usually good
For M ammo you want the ones with 9s in them
bold kernel
whats the easiest way to kill scavs on customs? most of the time, they just one shot me, and when they dont, i get the kill, but they dont even have a shotgun... it can be super annoying when i kill a scav too, and some tank god comes up and blasts me with his fully modded m4
spice trellis
Oh no i remembered wrong, thought there was a 9 in the A1 ammos
Chronic wear armor
and dont sprint around scav spawns
Then practice the head tap
bold kernel
how do i know where scavs spawn?
worn silo
do offline raids
bold kernel
do they have a certain place they do spawn?
spice trellis
and also practice running into cover when someone starts shooting you or you hear ona suka
worn silo
learn where they spawn
spice trellis
The map
https://www.gamemaps.co.uk/game/tarkov/maps/customs_clean_2d_updated these maps are so good
The 2D clean ones
bold kernel
alright, ill try it
spice trellis
Still missing a good reserve map tho
pale shoal
The wiki has the updated reserve map
spice trellis
If you look at chad streamers play I think there is at least one thing that is actually usable with no gear as well
And thats just going in and out of cover in engagements
Because it gives you time to get the head tap
bold kernel
so just aim for the head?
pale shoal
always
bold kernel
sounds good
pale shoal
almost every ammo will one tap the head without a helmet
bold kernel
ive gotten a good amount of loot, and have gotten about 100k in roubles, mainly through scav runs, is there any good budget weapons i should get right off the bat?
bold kernel
thats what i do to, but all i get are m153 shotguns, and fucking mosins
mosins are trash, personally cant use em
pale shoal
I mean mosins are good for longish range without a scope, and shotguns are a lot better than they use to be
spice trellis
Using mosin is a great way to practice calm under pressure and hs
You'll die a lot with it tho
Shotguns are great
I think if you should buy anything for scav hunting then its paca, it gives you so much extra survival time and it saves you against pistol PMCs too
but everything is so expensive when you die all the time
I went broke buying sks and paca
Being broke sucks massive dick, I can't recommend it
Imagine not even affording a pm
bold kernel
shotguns are great, i know that, but i have to get closer than usual to hit my shots on scavs, and usually in places with no cover, which already stems with my inability to comprehend that there is more than one person in the map
but yea, its like 60k or 30k or something like that for body armor
zealous tusk
CAN SOMEBODY gimme a hand grabbing secure box from customs i have the key
spice trellis
You dont have to get close to hit with shotgun
Its magical
get them buckshot snipes
bold kernel
damn, i forgot there were different types of ammo in the game
spice trellis
I think any shotgun ammo will work
But I usually find that 7c magnum or whatever its called
It works
bold kernel
sure, ill see if prapor got that in stock
spice trellis
Thats all he has in stock in lvl 1 :(
bold kernel
oh 😦
well, while on topic, should i ever sell to fence? my friends say hes the worst choice even though he basically buys everything
zealous tusk
just buy shottys from jager thats all he sells
spare tundra
spice trellis
Just ignore fence honestly
He served a cool purpose before flea market, now all he does is give the last quest in the game apparently?
silver hornet
yep
spice trellis
More details: Fence will give you the worst price for everything, and he has no trader level, which is the real reason you sell stuff to trdares, to unlock more stuff from them
teal wave
I mean he can get you some items before the Flea market opens for you but after that? Eeeeh
spice trellis
Assuming you are some giga chad who is swimming in money before lvl 10
teal wave
I mean I got the grip for the Gunsmith quest from Fence and since getting to level 10 is your first priority, I don't think that was a bad deal
spice trellis
Which grip do you need? I havent bothered to look it up yet because I know I can't afford it
ALl i find in raid are AR-15 grips :(
teal wave
The one for the shotgun quest, not a stock but a pistol grip so it's shorter
I only had a Scav spawn with that once so before the flea market opens, it's almost impossible to find unless you get very lucky
red solar
im having a problem with tarkov
gun sounds are horribly loud, way too loud
i know comtacs yeah
but i dont want to get more tinnitus cause of the game
im tryng to balance the windows audio and the in game audio to be comfortable and its being pretty hard
could you guys give me some hints or your settings to try out?
fast lintel
My stash is scuffed rn can anyone help me organise it please
fast lintel
idk what i need to keep and what i should sell
Should i send a screenshot or should we join a vc then i go live
cinder hound
go chit chat 3
paper flower
if any new players new help feel free to let me know and i will do all i can to help
hardy salmon
@fast lintel I can help you out, can you give me 20 min?
cinder hound
I helped him already
boreal mantle
hey if anyone could help me out with the game id be very appreciative dm me i could get on in about an hour
zenith loom
I just bought the game, I was wondering if there was a guide generally on what you ought to do for your first time booting it up?
mellow ingot
Watch some tutorial videos but not within the game