beginners-assistance

[stone surge]

but it got nerfed

because m80 was too good

as it penn'd tier 5 good too

[open jetty]

gotcha

[stone surge]

m80 is still really good

and it only takes like 2 bullets

[fluid path]

night raid with a light can maybe work.
if you have factory key, you could bail if you dontr get a close spawn to the room

[stone surge]

to get through tier 5

and then it oneshots

[plucky reef]

@fluid path I have tried noone answers. Now is probably best time for solo tho early morning in EU

[stone surge]

but i would say m61 is more consistent

it'll do damage regardless of armor

[open jetty]

yeha its selling for 1k/rd rn lol

dont feel like dropping 200k on ammo atm

[stone surge]

just dont assume m80 is bad

because it's not

[plucky reef]

bp enough for factory you think?

5.45

[stone surge]

the 80 flesh damage is pretty insane

[open jetty]

well i mean i have been running m80 already so i know its good i just havent run m61 yet

[terse narwhal]

It very early here eu rn

[stone surge]

@plucky reef i would go BT

honestly

tracers dont matter in CQB as much

and it's quite a bit better

[plucky reef]

ok

So factory delivery from the past is it good to prone there? I think you can shoot at somebody proned close to the windows? Not sure tho hm

can't shoot

[stone surge]

i believe you can

but i crouched it

[fluid path]

if someone knows youre in there, its bad news regardless 🙂

[stone surge]

i just rush it honestly

[fluid path]

plus crouching will let you move quicker if you get naded or someone approaches.

[stone surge]

you could also wait for timer to expire

and then do it

[fluid path]

you have no idea what youre getting into, good players, a group, or maybe a quiet raid with a pistol guy

run it before everyone gets in place

[plucky reef]

hm i think there is like 2 spawns where i feel condifent to rush it. either the near exit spawn or the window room spawn

[rare escarp]

fastest way to lvl up prapor therapist etc.. ?

[terse narwhal]

Give them stuff

Buy their stuff and sell back if you want

[long coral]

Don't you have to be a certain level to level them up?

[stone surge]

@rare escarp prapor buy PP-19

and sell it to him

and repeat for 1mill money spent

[plucky reef]

who do i pray to? Nikita?

[rare escarp]

@stone surge it shows i can only give him t plugs

[stone surge]

what do you mean?

you can sell anything to him almost

i mean selling, not giving through quests

[plucky reef]

i think he means he can only buy the PP for plugs

[rare escarp]

ohhhhhhh buy from flea?

[stone surge]

No

buy from him

pp-19

the gun

[stone surge]

no

other one

gun that costs ~18k-ish

[rare escarp]

pp 91

[stone surge]

could be, im not ingame

aslong as it's around 18k its fine

[mint hawk]

Trades don't count as value spent..

[plucky reef]

Please Nikita let me plant this "secure" folder for 30 seconds without getting killed.

[rare escarp]

i lose about 6k doing that

[stone surge]

correct

you get 1mill rep

for about 200k

[plucky reef]

buy psu scope and sell otherwise

[stone surge]

it's worth it and fastest way

[plucky reef]

i sold at 1k loss

[rare escarp]

gotcha thanks

[stone surge]

it costs money selling to him anyways

[plucky reef]

sold it at flea

[stone surge]

selling at flea takes a lot of times

[plucky reef]

takes some time but less loss

[stone surge]

because if you sell to prapor

it also contributes towards money spent

and flea market takes comission

it's just not worth the time saving maybe 30k

[bold kernel]

What's the blue laser everyone is telling me to run?

[rare escarp]

does it make sense to get prapor lvl 2?

[stone surge]

@bold kernel imo holosun is better

it costs some more, but then you dont have that stupid dot

which gives away position

[bold kernel]

I just need one for my m1a

I'm going to post my m1a, you guys tell me how to improve it lol

[stone surge]

whats your budget?

[bold kernel]

I usually bounce between 500k-250k but I'm fine with spending on this gun

I just need to find out the gun for me

[stone surge]

idk just do minor adjustments

i dont think m1a can be modded "slightly"

that it's worth it

[bold kernel]

Because I've been really struggling finding which gun to run

[mint hawk]

Could always use the sr-25

[bold kernel]

I bounced between most ak variants, ADAR, mosin, etc. SR is too expensive lul

I haven't tried m4, might be my gun.

[mint hawk]

@bold kernel what issues are you having with the other guns?

[bold kernel]

It's all just general inaccuracy. SKS bounces around too much when rapid firing, I can't keep my sight picture on target

[stone surge]

m4 is really expensive

[bold kernel]

M4 is around 80k for a serviceable one

[stone surge]

no

because m4 stock is pretty bad

[bold kernel]

You can mod it out nice for the big bucks

[zealous eagle]

are keys re usable?

[stone surge]

yes

[bold kernel]

It's also rapid fire and pisses away rubles

[mint hawk]

P @bold kernel suppressed you can get a 5.45 ak to 60 vertical recoil

[zealous eagle]

so you only need to own a key once?

unless you drop it

[stone surge]

@bold kernel Why not AK-74N ?

you can mod it to super low recoil

for a cheap gun

[bold kernel]

I haven't really tried it, I might though.

[stone surge]

Ak-74N can be 47 recoil

which is basically... no recoil

[bold kernel]

It's full auto which kinda pushes me away because of how expensive ammo is rn

[stone surge]

Then go Vepr KM

[bold kernel]

I tried, it jumps way too much

[stone surge]

i mean you just said u wanted m4

m4 is way worse at shooting away $$ in terms of ammo

than AK

[bold kernel]

And then I said it pisses away rubles lol

[plucky reef]

yeah got destroyed should have just fucking rushed

[mint hawk]

@stone surge unsupressed

[plucky reef]

fucking shit quest

[bold kernel]

I don't really know what I want. I know I ran a KM decently modded out, and it jumped around way too much after first shot, but then again that might have just been because I was being shot at

I'm going to try the m1a

Good ammo, semi auto, etc.

Decently cheap

[amber saffron]

the eotech vudu is a 1x and a 6x right?

[bold kernel]

Anyway, goodnight.

[heady magnet]

im also trying to decide what gun I want to use now that im making money

[mint hawk]

P @amber saffron uh.. Like 24x

@bold kernel m1a will jump like the Sks.. It has around 90-100 vertical recoil

[stone surge]

modded 50

and it doesnt jump

:4

[bold kernel]

I've seen the m1a in action, doesn't shake nearly as much imo

[mint hawk]

If recoil is your issue then play with a smg.

[stone surge]

@bold kernel if you mean my vid, keep in mind

that's like a maxed out m1a

it'll be different than stock m1a

[mint hawk]

Mpx can go down to laser quality

[stone surge]

but just try it

and see if you like it

mpx uses trash bullets

[mint hawk]

Its a 9mm.. Soo...

[stone surge]

and 600 each for a bullet that doesnt penetrate tier 3 properly

[heady magnet]

i kinda wanna make an ash12 build for qcb

[stone surge]

litterly a skamaaz

might aswell pay for mp7 and AP SX ammo

same amount of money for a better SMG

[heady magnet]

me?

[stone surge]

there's a mod that runs ash12

but idk anything about ash12 as the gun is not that good

[heady magnet]

ahh okay maybe i wont then because i only have 1.78m

[stone surge]

ash12 could be fun to try out sometime

but it's def not a good gun

[sacred acorn]

how much money could i sell this for?

[stone surge]

put the mandible off

and check price of the actual helmet

and undercut the one with similar durability

[mint hawk]

@sacred acorn like 110 just for helm on market

[stone surge]

sell them seperately

[heady magnet]

is the Lone Star TX-15 good?

having a hard time deciding what weapon i want to work on mastery for first

[amber saffron]

@mint hawk im confused, it can be zoomed in and out right? what are the two magnifications you can use on it?

[mint hawk]

@amber saffron yes, 1 and like 24

!Wiki eotech vudu

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/EOtech_Vudu_1-6_riflescope
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page eotech vudu for a direct link or !wiki search eotech vudu for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

EOtech Vudu 1-6 riflescope

EOtech Vudu 1-6 riflescope (1-6x24) is a scope in Escape from Tarkov.

[heady magnet]

@stone surge hey if i want to practice a labs run which key do i need mostly

just labs access keycard right?

[amber saffron]

@mint hawk i see, thanks a lot!

[blissful lagoon]

What does LAM stand for in the Holosun HS401G5 reflex sight
Figured it out: Laser Aiming Module

[stone surge]

@heady magnet yes just labs keycar

[steady pilot]

@heady magnet the tx15, m4, and adar all perform the same and share the same mastery gain. Tx15 and adar are civilian ar15s and are single only. M4 has the added benefit of a full-giggle switch. Dont be swayed by what their stock build is, accuracy is defined by what barrel is attached and they all take the same parts. In the end they all shoot the same bullet too so. The tx15 receiver has +2 ergo and -9 recoil points if you compare all 3 receivers next to each other as well, this benefit is negligible tbh for a semi auto an the fact its 6k for adar lower and 21k for tx15 lower.

[heady magnet]

ah okay

hmm interesting i like the m4 but i kinda wanted to go with a 7.62 gun idk

[stone surge]

inb4 vepr km #ad

[steady pilot]

Unless you can afford m855a1 or m995 all the time plus the mods to make it effective

762 is where its at

[mint hawk]

@heady magnet I'm not a fan of the 7.62 with my jelly arms

[steady pilot]

(Pro tip dont use full auto with any thing 762)

[stone surge]

@heady magnet m4 kinda needs to be modded to really make it worth it and it ends up being expensive af also coz of bullets ye

7.62 is pretty neat for Semi otherwise u might try AK-74N or AK-74M

for 5.45, but those bullets are quite expensive too

still cheaper than nato overall

7.62 is the most deadly on a low budget, because the semi's don't need to be modded as much

[heady magnet]

how is the remingington r11 and the sr 25

[steady pilot]

M4 lower is 20k

Sr25 has sub tier stats and needs quite the investment to even compete with other 762 NATO rifles

[heady magnet]

ah okay

so scratch that off the list

[steady pilot]

M1a is cheap enough and works well

Sa58 needs a few mods too be functional but is also cheap enough

The idea is if you land accuracte shots, m80 will clap pmcs regardless

[stone surge]

m1a, vepr km, ak-74N, adar/tx-15, sa-58, vepr hunter, SKS, mp7

are guns you could check out

and check what you like

[steady pilot]

Hunter us budget 762 nato rifle

[plucky reef]

raiders on reserve kill scavs as well?

[steady pilot]

I call it the PMC Assclapper 9000

[mint hawk]

@steady pilot but also loud AF

[heady magnet]

i mean i may regret it later but budget isnt a huge deal today im sitting on 1.8m atm

[stone surge]

yes but

a more expensive gun means you need more expensive gear

[mint hawk]

@heady magnet see you later at the 300k mark

[stone surge]

to make it worth it

[steady pilot]

Tbh sr25 is still fun and sexy

[stone surge]

you dont wanna run around with a 200k m4 with a paca

so to say

[heady magnet]

yeah true

[mint hawk]

@steady pilot hear hear

[stone surge]

and vepr hunter

can even be ran naked

as in no gear

and just be sneaky and get a kill somehow

or with minimal gear

[heady magnet]

whats the difference between an assault carbine and a marksman rifle

sorry if thats a dumb question

[stone surge]

rifles have a longer barrel generally

and are also meant for mid/long range

carbine is more CQB optimized

in general

[heady magnet]

ah okay

[steady pilot]

Here are some builds I mess around with

For 762 nato. Dont need meta cause round is effective

(Optic is preference)

[stone surge]

thats not the new pilad scope is it?

[mint hawk]

That foregrip though

[heady magnet]

is the rsass any good?

[steady pilot]

Eh its kinda expensive

[amber saffron]

is there a way to put an assault scope on vepr km without spending 150k on a mount?

[steady pilot]

It's like out of the box pretty decent

[heady magnet]

i like how that and the tx 15 look

[mint hawk]

@amber saffron bastion

[heavy arrow]

yo i just had an insurance come back to me just now and when i redeemed it it said error when moving items

[steady pilot]

But in same boat as sr25 tbh

[heavy arrow]

and my stacked svd and shit is gone

[heady magnet]

yeah that happened to me i just said fuck it tho

[bold kernel]

Is there a faster way to get a bigger secure container other than upgrading your game?

[stone surge]

rsass is undermined by m1a in terms of cost/value imo

[steady pilot]

@amber saffron changing to one of the 4 railed dustcovers

[mint hawk]

@bold kernel tasks

[stone surge]

and huge ass recoil too iirc

[amber saffron]

@steady pilot ooh yeah, i just saw thats possible

[bold kernel]

Ya but you don't get the task until lv 21

[amber saffron]

the b-33 from skier l3 should work

[steady pilot]

Ass

[bold kernel]

And you cant buy them so Is there a thing else

[steady pilot]

Needs the handguard

Bastion will do fine

[amber saffron]

where do i buy a bastion from?

[steady pilot]

Skier 2

Or marke.t

[amber saffron]

wait for real?

[heady magnet]

okay so no rsass

[steady pilot]

Linked search the rifle.

[amber saffron]

skier 2 sells bastion?

the wiki didn't mention it so i didn't know

[frosty crown]

so if i play in offline mode i dont lose any of my shit right?

[mint hawk]

@bold kernel beta is a trade and epsilon is a tasks.. Other than that.. You have to pay

[amber saffron]

im still a level away from skier 3 so if i can buy it rn it'd be epic

[steady pilot]

!wiki bastion

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/AKademia_Bastion_dust_cover_for_AK
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page bastion for a direct link or !wiki search bastion for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

AKademia Bastion dust cover for AK

The AKademia Bastion dust cover for AK (Bastion) is a dust cover in Escape from Tarkov.

[heady magnet]

gonna try to make a tx 15 i suppose

[bold kernel]

Alright thanks

Sucks tho

[mint hawk]

@amber saffron flea market

[steady pilot]

Sure doesn't

You could also use linked search on the rifle

[amber saffron]

@mint hawk thanks

[mint hawk]

Be sure to remove the iron sights

[amber saffron]

yeah ofc

does skier 2 not give it tho?

[mint hawk]

Eh.. Flea market will tell you who has it at the lowest price

[amber saffron]

yeah ill check

[steady pilot]

Unless they moved it

I last knew bastion to be at skier 2.

[strong frost]

Looking at getting into tarkov after a month of playing 12 months ago, is there a specific discord section for me to ask for help or is here fine for sherpa/game-sense/knowhow?

[bold kernel]

can you upgrade the size of your secure box or do you have to buy the higer tier versions for that>

[open basin]

secure container yeah

[mint hawk]

@bold kernel Beta is a trade and epsilon is a tasks.. Other than that.. You have to pay

[open basin]

!wiki the punisher pt 1

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Gunsmith_-_Part_9
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page the punisher pt 1 for a direct link or !wiki search the punisher pt 1 for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Gunsmith - Part 9

Gunsmith - Part 9 is a Quest in Escape from Tarkov.

[open basin]

fuck man

[steady pilot]

!wiki secure container

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Secure_container_Beta
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page secure container for a direct link or !wiki search secure container for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Secure container Beta

Secure container Beta (Beta Container) is a secure container in Escape from Tarkov.

[open basin]

epsilon is the easiest to get imo

[languid flare]

Nah

Alpha is easiest

[bold kernel]

which is the biggest?

[steady pilot]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Secure_containers

[open basin]

Kappa

[steady pilot]

What I meant to link

Click the link I just posted

[open basin]

but you need to complete every single quest in the game

[mint hawk]

@open basin well like 95%

[open basin]

true

[amber saffron]

once i get all traders to 3/4 im gonna stop quests

[bold kernel]

mkay. I havent even done the first quest 😅

[amber saffron]

its too much work 😩

[steady pilot]

[heavy arrow]

yo i just handed over jagers message but it just dissapeared and didnt complete quest

[steady pilot]

I've done quests 8 times over for 8 wipes

[heavy arrow]

dafuq is going on

[steady pilot]

👌

@heavy arrow game is buggy if you hadn't figured that out yet. Restart game

[brazen owl]

Is there a way to guarantee my character will always sprint when I press Shift

?*

Because I`ve just tried to run and he could only slow walk

My legs were fine

[mint hawk]

@heavy arrow prob just restart

[languid flare]

If yer out of Stamina you cant run

[brazen owl]

Not out of stamina

[amber saffron]

fracture?

[brazen owl]

[BRA] CRF PetkovicToday at 05:34
Is there a way to guarantee my character will always sprint when I press Shift
?*
Because I`ve just tried to run and he could only slow walk
My legs were fine

[BRA] CRF PetkovicToday at 05:34
My legs were fine

[spice quest]

when playing scav is there a way to tell the difference between pmc and skav?

[amber saffron]

yes ok we understood

[steady pilot]

I dont have any issues with sprinting

[amber saffron]

probably low stamina

[steady pilot]

🤷

[brazen owl]

Full stam

[mint hawk]

@spice quest they wear did clothes

[languid heart]

is it ok to ask for help in this chat?

[mint hawk]

Unless you mean pscav?

[amber saffron]

is shift key binded to sprint?

[brazen owl]

found out why i could sprint

[mint hawk]

@languid heart in Assistance? I think so xD

[brazen owl]

if you hold shift while getting up, the game doesnt recognize you`re holding shift

[languid heart]

lol idk I just wanted to make sure. I was going to ask if someone would join a game with me

[amber saffron]

nice

[mint hawk]

@languid heart #521628660298678283 #news-setup

[wary rock]

Guys! I'm trying to upgrade from Left Behind to EoD. Does anyone know how? I've contacted support but they're insanely busy so.i thought I'd try here.

[amber saffron]

from the website

just click "upgrade" and pay

lol

[wary rock]

Oh.. I've not seen that.

Thanks hahahah

[steady pilot]

@wary rock you just preorder the next package

It will subtract previous editions

[wary rock]

Ohh.. different answers. Which is correct?

[steady pilot]

No

They are the same

[wary rock]

Maybe it'll make sense when I'm looking at the screen. Thank you guys!

[steady pilot]

Be patient when you do

Your stuff will come in mail

Servers are under stress so may take a bit

@wary rock

[heavy arrow]

yeah im so stoked didnt lose my svd

but still bugging out

[steady pilot]

That what happens when a buggy game that was semi-operable under it's normal load happens to get a influx of like a million new people trying to get on the hype

[languid heart]

where should I try raiding in the beginning to learn the map? factory or customs

[open basin]

customs

[heavy arrow]

customs much better

[languid heart]

ok, like i've watched videos and what not just trying to get better and learn more about it.

[steady pilot]

Factory is the worst place for a begginer

Good way to lose all your kit

[languid heart]

ok cool, I'm only going in with bare minimums right now. pistol, ammo and a few things in my container

[steady pilot]

You lvl 5 yet

[unique willow]

tf am i supposed to do with this

[heavy arrow]

its ur pouch

[languid heart]

No, keep raiding until I'm there?

[heavy arrow]

it stays with you even if u die and everything inside also stays

[unique willow]

yea but i have better one

[twilit patio]

sell it to the fence

[heady magnet]

ughh almost done with going through flea market and identifying every mod/part of guns

[heavy arrow]

yes u have a better version

[heady magnet]

woo lawd this is taking a while

[mint hawk]

@unique willow sell it if you have eod

[unique willow]

is fence my only option

[mint hawk]

@unique willow mechanic

[unique willow]

ok

[mint hawk]

But fence gives other players access to it

[unique willow]

hmmm

[mint hawk]

So do it for yourself. Or for otherd

[unique willow]

myself sounds like the better option

[mint hawk]

xD

You do you

You worked for it

[twilit patio]

lol what you gonna discard it?

your choice but why not fence

[steady pilot]

Jaegar buys it too

[mint hawk]

@twilit patio mechanic buys it for more

[steady pilot]

I think

[twilit patio]

mechanic buys containers?

didnt know that, i though the only choice was fence

[steady pilot]

Did you look at all first

[mint hawk]

If someone wants to check that xD. But mechanic is usually my go to guy

[twilit patio]

omg jaeger buys it for like double the price

[frosty crown]

so if i do an offline raid i dont lose my shit right?

[languid flare]

You gain and lose nothing

[mint hawk]

@frosty crown won't gain anything either

[twilit patio]

ragman even more

[frosty crown]

cool

just wanted to go and learn labs

[mint hawk]

@frosty crown offline be free

[sand kindle]

whats a cheap heavy item to train strength by running overweight?

will buy and fill bags with it

[stone surge]

battery but they added exhaustion last patch

[steady pilot]

Throwing a tank battery in a epislon

[stone surge]

so you only train strength for XX minutes

[steady pilot]

But you have to walk not run

[sand kindle]

i feel like whatever they did screwed strength leveling im level 32 with 2 strength lol

[steady pilot]

But yeah you cant grind any skills anymore. Everyone abused it

[stone surge]

ye strength is honestly leveled through just playing not powerleveling it specifically

a good idea might be to bring nades with you

[sand kindle]

i just need 9 points to get str 3

[stone surge]

nades are good anyways (indoors mostly)

[sand kindle]

for hideout upgrade

[stone surge]

and it trains strength too

even though it's small

[hard perch]

is there a better alpha container?

[sand kindle]

ive been going factory with hatchet for melee kills lol

[steady pilot]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Secure_containers

@hard perch

[hard perch]

thank ya

another question

[mint hawk]

@sand kindle eh I'm lvl 51 with like 9 strength

[stone surge]

jsut brings some zharya's or rgd-5s with you and throw them once in a while or whenever you wanna check a room/spot for movement

[hard perch]

whats the cheapest upgrade to a bigger inv. mine is full and need more space

[steady pilot]

!wiki containers

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Containers

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Containers

Containers, as the name suggests, are items for containing things. These items can not be equipped on the character but are used to free up inventory space by providing storage and taking up fewer inventory slots.

[mint hawk]

@hard perch do hideout

[stone surge]

ammo boxes, pistolcases (for mags), food case might help if u got a lot of food, Medbox

[hard perch]

i dont understand how it works and how you upgrade it

[stone surge]

then i would go over to weapon cases or itemcases

[hard perch]

ok, thank you veyx

[steady pilot]

Click both links

All info there

[hard perch]

ok

[sand kindle]

@steady pilot so running doesnt increase it? need to slow walk around?

and do you know if higher weight is faster gain?

over 40kg

[steady pilot]

No

How to level skills is also on wiki

!wiki skills

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Character_skills

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Character skills

Escape from Tarkov features five skill categories that are trained through active use. In short, the more you use a skill, the better you get at it. Every skill can be leveled up to level 51 (elite level), this level provides an extra ability linked to the skill.

[heavy arrow]

hey so how long will my insured items be in messages for

[heavy arrow]

cause i dont think ill be able to redeem them tonight

[stone surge]

@heavy arrow about 2 days

you can see the expiredate on the messages

[steady pilot]

^

[stone surge]

imo they should change it

because it's kinda annoying having to scroll through all the messages

especially since some of them are pointless

[hard perch]

best cheap gun to run(with attachments) as pmc for beginners?

[stone surge]

and give a cleaner overview

[steady pilot]

Just hit receive all

[mint hawk]

@stone surge what's this?

[stone surge]

What do you mean?

[mint hawk]

What scrolling

[stone surge]

well

normally you just click receive all and then you see all ur items

but newer players might not have room to accept all of them

and to see specifically what time they have left PER item

[steady pilot]

And

[stone surge]

it's hard to keep track of

[steady pilot]

They should just take the junk and sell it

[mint hawk]

Right. Clear space you hoarder

[steady pilot]

liquidate

If they have no space it means they have other kit ready

[stone surge]

i mean you get the point

the way they put expiredate in messages si just stupid

it's not that big of a deal

[sand kindle]

btw @steady pilot you seem knowledgable - do you have any idea how i managed to headshot kill someone with mp5 gzh in 15 bullets while he had level 5 helmet and visor (visor was down)

[stone surge]

but it's still stupid

especially since prapor has useless messages that he spams if you go in with insured gear in labs

then u get spammed he can't retrieve it

[steady pilot]

Pure luck

[hard perch]

if i want to upgrade, should i go for left behind or prepare for escape

[mint hawk]

@sand kindle probably chin

[sand kindle]

@steady pilot i mean the technical side behind it - i thought the bullets couldnt hurt him through it - it wasnt damaged below 90% when i looted him

[stone surge]

@hard perch the minimum that gives beta case

idk which one that is

[mint hawk]

@hard perch which ever you can afford.. It's your money

[stone surge]

the only noticeable upgrades are for the containers

beta and gamma

[steady pilot]

Either the game bugged and ignored helmet, hit neck area, bullets also do impact damage, armor dmg is also a thing so it could of reduced armor enough for it to roll the dice for a penetrating shot

[sand kindle]

it was altyn helmet

[hard perch]

is it called the beta case?

[stone surge]

beta container

[steady pilot]

I'm pretty sure I know what lvl 5 you're talking about ;)

[sand kindle]

oh didnt know it was the only one

[spice quest]

howcome knife doesn't one shot

it's really hard to get that close?

[hard perch]

i only see secure container and larger secure container @stone surge

[steady pilot]

Melee just isnt a practical thing

[stone surge]

well a knife generally doesnt oneshot IRL either

melee just isn't part of the game really

[languid flare]

Oh god. Knife onehit would be horrible. Everyone would just run around naked

[trim herald]

Oh no, Delta's back

[steady pilot]

Going to bed now

[mint hawk]

@steady pilot find a bugged out scav or a DC'd player

[stone surge]

someone that gets stabbed IRL doesn't die unless he's stabbed multiple times either, so it's both balancing and realistic kinda

[trim herald]

I mean no one has ever died irl from being shot in the foot 10 times either

[steady pilot]

I bet the bleeding is enough

[trim herald]

It's not like the game cares about realism when it comes to damage

[sand kindle]

of course u can die from that lol

u would go into shock

[trim herald]

Gets shot in the chest with 308? Oh hold up, let me just apply this first aid kit. OK, all good now

[hard perch]

also who do i buy from for gun cases

[stone surge]

flea market

[steady pilot]

Ngl, mowing someone's legs has to be the least humane way to shoot someone if you had to do it. Lol

[hard perch]

well dang

[stone surge]

why dang

if ur not 5 yet

u dont really need pistolcase honestly

lvl 5 can be done in a day

just sell garbage u dont need!

[hard perch]

im only about 4-5 hours in the game, but ive done some good raids

[trim herald]

Your stomach all shot out? "Not a worry, let me just staple this shit up, I'll be as good as new in 20 sec"

[steady pilot]

[mint hawk]

@trim herald shock can kill

[trim herald]

Leg fracture? It's fine, just pop a paracetamol and run along

[languid heart]

how do you talk in game to other people btw?

[languid flare]

You dont talk

[steady pilot]

There is no voip

[languid flare]

You just Emote

[hard perch]

okay, i have several guns ive taken off of people, which are the best to sell? i have , akm/vpo-209, SVDS, Vepr KM/VPO-136 and a 366tkm all have attatchments

[trim herald]

@mint hawk instantly? Unlikely, especially as adrenaline tends to keep you going for a short while

[languid flare]

With F1/Y

[steady pilot]

There are voice lines

[languid heart]

ok, wasn't sure if you could legit talk with other players, thank you.

[steady pilot]

Get rid of the vpo209

[trim herald]

Sell all but the vepr 136

[stone surge]

@trim herald or smear that vaseline on ur face so you can run without legs

[steady pilot]

Garbage tier

[hard perch]

okay, whos the best to sell to? prapor?

[steady pilot]

Mech

[stone surge]

this game would be kinda strange if you can actually shoot someone's leg off though

[hard perch]

ok

[trim herald]

Fo shizzle, I know whenever I'm in pain I just get my vaseline out and then I don't feel anything anymore

[steady pilot]

I always said "let me just wipe some vaseline on my asshole real quick I'll be good to go"

[stone surge]

make sure to apply to the face

[languid flare]

Lips

Specifically

[hard perch]

@steady pilot is that ak kit you sent me full auto?

[steady pilot]

That is a veprkm

Civilian akm - single shot

[trim herald]

It can be full auto, depending on how fast you can click

[hard perch]

ugh

[steady pilot]

Youndont want to full auto 7x39 AKs dude

Its horrible to control

[stone surge]

Does thicc case stay around 14mill towards the end of wipe you guys think?

[trim herald]

Yes

[hard perch]

i hate the single autos, i always figure they're gonna be full and die cause they aren't

[languid flare]

Semi auto*

😛

[strong frost]

anyone here know best place to ask for sherpas for a time period of +6 hours from message (~6AM pst) trying to get back into the game during my off hours... (or should i just ask closer to my off hours on this channel??)

[stone surge]

Won't drop to atleast like 9-10ish?

[hard perch]

sorry

its 3 am

[steady pilot]

Reset your expectations

[languid flare]

Also, check with B

[steady pilot]

Controlled single shot is good

Full auto is a silly crutch

[hard perch]

okay, how do i get the black one? do i have to build it? i only see wood stock and bodies

[trim herald]

@stone surge They are expensive because ledx are expensive, ledx tend not to drop in price because people always need more space

[steady pilot]

Prapor lvl 1 sells polymer parts

[hard perch]

okay

[steady pilot]

Just unlock this

You can mod for free

[hard perch]

how do i do that lol

[steady pilot]

Teaches you what parts attach to what

And what's compatible

So long as you have examined it you will see it

[hard perch]

how do i unlock that, all i have is stash

[steady pilot]

My picture shows you

[hard perch]

hehe

[hard perch]

says i gotta buy it

[steady pilot]

Sure do

[hard perch]

well

i am broketh

[steady pilot]

Sounds like a personal problem

[hard perch]

it is

[steady pilot]

Kidding

Just buy it when you can afford

[hard perch]

where do i buy bolts and screws

[languid flare]

Flea

[steady pilot]

Market

[hard perch]

WOW

[languid flare]

Teamwork 😄

[steady pilot]

Or find all that shit in interchange

[languid flare]

^

Scav some Interchange

[steady pilot]

Good map for you to learn and scav on

[hard perch]

ima have to wait...too scared to play solo, my teammate is sleeping

[trim herald]

Funny how the akm is so much more garbage for recoil than the SA even though it's firing a baby 308 round

[languid flare]

Scav is easy

You wont lose anything but time

At worst

[trim herald]

Piece of shit Russian engineering

[steady pilot]

Excuse me

[trim herald]

You're excused

[steady pilot]

I'll have you know kalashinakov was a damn genius

[trim herald]

For the 40's and early 50's sure, it was a good rifle. That hasn't been improved on since.

[steady pilot]

He made a rifle with the least moving parts that was durable and functioned in nearly any condition and can be operated by simpletons

The ak100 series is the improvement

[trim herald]

I mean the modern M4 actually functions under worse conditions than an AK

[hard perch]

@steady pilot does prapor sell all the attatchments for the vepr that you sent

[trim herald]

Flea sells all of them

[plucky reef]

Meh the AK is just a copy job of Sturmgewehr

[hard perch]

well

[steady pilot]

The dynacomp is mechanc lvl 2 and tt01 iron sight is prapor lvl 2

[hard perch]

ight, looks like i gotta level up

so in that case...

[steady pilot]

Or just

Fleamarket.

[hard perch]

dont have it

so in that case...

[trim herald]

Then use the vepr stock

It's fine without attachments

[hard perch]

whats the easiest beginner map

[steady pilot]

It's better than taking a pistol

[vernal anchor]

You can probably get to level 5 faster than mechanic 2

[steady pilot]

Just use it stock

Pistol is unreliable af

[trim herald]

Probably yes, Mako

[steady pilot]

@vernal anchor 4head

[vernal anchor]

Whatever kid

[plucky reef]

Scav on reserve or interchange?

[steady pilot]

Luv u

Interchange but learning reserve isnt bad option either

[hard perch]

i usually play woods, but solo what map should i choose by myself for a beginner

[steady pilot]

Wherever your quests are

[hard perch]

i feel so dumb

[plucky reef]

Just spent 30min running around reserve, feel like i know 10% lol

[steady pilot]

Run around some more

[hard perch]

im guessing tasks are quests?

[steady pilot]

@hard perch si señor

[hard perch]

okay, ive just been dropping in and killing and looting lol

[steady pilot]

Tbh thays fine

Getting mechanics down and surviving is more important

[trim herald]

Woods is an awful map for loot though

[wispy spindle]

Reserv a good Map ?

[trim herald]

Only nerds who like to sit on rocks for 30 mins like woods

[steady pilot]

@trim herald heh. Not if you hunt players like towers discord

[plucky reef]

Yeah i used that map. Got fucked by thinking i was at Hole in Fence by mountains when i was at the two other bunkers

Or not that one, the other one

without keys

[hard perch]

lol i sniped some dude off a rock last night, it was funny af

on woods

[trim herald]

Was probably Delta

[hard perch]

he sounds like he was good, this guy was worse than me

[steady pilot]

Snipe me off this discord to bed

[trim herald]

No u

[plucky reef]

I thought the siren sounds on reserve was train but it's hermetic door?

[hard perch]

is there a part of the discord for beginners to find other beginner teammates?

[trim herald]

Yes

#pvp-lfg

[hard perch]

okay, didnt look fa renough

[plucky reef]

Raiders come with train and they shoot on sight player Scavs or?

[odd quail]

Helo pepol

Im new to the game

[languid flare]

#521628660298678283 #news-setup @odd quail

[odd quail]

Cool

Will do

[graceful wolf]

any sherpas?

[hearty birch]

anyone willing to teach me the game and techniques for PvP

[amber saffron]

would 5.56x45 mm M855A1 be good enough?

[naive atlas]

!ammo

[tribal robin]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Ballistics

[amber saffron]

i know i used that

which is why i am asking

will the M885A1 be good enough?

[civic raptor]

Anyone can help me learnt he game please!

[crimson lichen]

The chart is indicating that M885A1 will shred level 4 armor and below, lvl 5 will still go down ok but level 6 armor will be tough to handle. Its the 2nd best for that caliber, M995 being the best but its expensive. M885A1 is a great choice.

[visual sky]

can anyone help me raid? trying to learn the spawns on customs

and extractions

[hollow flower]

Kube, check the setup channel you're still white. Also, go on the tarkov wiki and look at the maps and then play in offline mode.

Will help you learn spawns and you can practice against scavs.

[visual sky]

@hollow flower english isn't a language option for some reason

[hollow flower]

Yeah idk why, I just picked EU region etc.

It will give you the blue colour font though.

[bold kernel]

How does match making work? Do solos go against groups?

what about EXP and gear and stuff

[dense zenith]

you could be the single 6th pmc on factory against a whole 5 man

[atomic knoll]

You might go against groups

[dense zenith]

tarkov does not give a fuck

[bold kernel]

Yeah, the match is was just in, I scared of a two man, killed a solo, then killed one of a 2 man (maybe more didn't see) and died to his mate

Shits, rough

[dense zenith]

yeah you never know for sure if the guy you killed has homies

never run up immediately to a body to loot, scope it out and get a different angle etc...

[bold kernel]

yeah

I had a broken leg from the solo, so I was on pains trying to get out

So I wasn't sprinting

A dude springs strait through a bush 1 meter away from me, so I got him then got killed 0.5 sec later from the side

How does gear matching work if there is any

[dense zenith]

there is not

[bold kernel]

Like I am playing customs, coz that is what I have heard to do

[dense zenith]

there is not level or gear "tiers" that the game tries to match you with

[bold kernel]

Won't geared people just come to farm the noobs?

[dense zenith]

not really, since noobs don't have shit, lol

but pmc spawn camping is common

[bold kernel]

How can you spawn camp, I thought everyone spawned at the same time

[dense zenith]

by knowing the spawns and knowing where people are likely to go

estimation, game knowledge, etc

[bold kernel]

Yeah, but how do you get there before others leave?

[dense zenith]

you don't, you just try to cut them off by estimating what direction or area they are going to be going

[bold kernel]

I assume other maps have better loot?

Sure, that just makes sense

[dense zenith]

like in customs if you spawn near dorms or something you could just wait for someone to come over the railroad tracks etc

[bold kernel]

hold chokes and what not

[dense zenith]

knowing the common routes to get to hot spots is pretty important, but you'll learn that from just playing a shit ton

[bold kernel]

yeah

I'm still kinda lost on what I should be doing

like I just spawn in with what ever loot I got, kill a sav or two, then try and get out

[dense zenith]

focus your tasks on pmc, scav runs are enticing to newer players because it is essentially free loot, but you can't level up your pmc or complete missions or level skills if you're just waiting for scav cooldowns

scav runs are good practice though and you can get out with a fair amount of loot, sure. but try not to be scared to lose stuff on your pmc

[bold kernel]

I just scav when its uo

*up

[dense zenith]

yeah that's good

[bold kernel]

but PMC the rest of the time

I have no real idea how to complete the tasks

[dense zenith]

check the wiki

[bold kernel]

fair enough

[dense zenith]

some of them are really dumb as well

like a folder in a train car next to some cargo between the cargo and the wall

you'd never fucking find that if you didn't check the wiki

[hollow flower]

I got a scav lastnight which had some nice gear on, immediately went to exfil but got stuck around gas station/dorms as there was a lot of action. Didn't make it out.

Shame he had 2 keys and an KA.

*ak

plus some body armour

[cosmic fog]

hello , so you cant refill your fuel at interchange anymore or you have to go somewhere specific

[dense zenith]

someone mentioned they plan to add siphoning gas, refilling fuel tanks previously was a bug

just gonna have to buy a fresh tank off jaeger/market

save your empty blue ones to craft mag boxes though

[tawny ocean]

how do I swap from usec to bear?

[dense zenith]

you'd have to reset your account, I believe

[hollow flower]

Quick question, when we get updates I now there's a wipe and you lose your gear, do you lose all your progress i.e. start from level 0 again?

[dense zenith]

yes

[hollow flower]

oof

How often are the updates?

Typically speaking

[dense zenith]

next reset is estimated to be in march

but nothing is set

[hollow flower]

Ok so a fair while then.

[dense zenith]

I've only started playing at the beginning of this wipe so I can't say much about before this. but yeah it is a fair while

[bold kernel]

i have a question, is there any map good for beginners?

[dense zenith]

interchange

[bold kernel]

wow i have played customs cause my friends told me that it's good for new guys

but if intercharge is better

[dense zenith]

check a stash map and farm some loot if you feel scared to head into the mall proper

can farm stashes on customs too but it's more dangerous

[bold kernel]

yea i am playing alone and lost almost everything

[karmic mirage]

isn't factory the best for new people

[dense zenith]

you could argue that, yeah

it's fast and quick practice

but you're gonna die a lot

[karmic mirage]

was just curious i myself is new

[dense zenith]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/ducqnn/interchange_stash_map_v2/

@bold kernel stash map for interchange

[karmic mirage]

ya i've just been doing pistol runs to get use to combat and looting and all that actually have made decent money and got some okish gear

[bold kernel]

thank you

[dense zenith]

oh yeah pistol running factory is actually great practice

just have to realize you're gonna get analed most of the time

[bold kernel]

i have now zero pistols so only melee xD

[hollow flower]

I'm not a fan of factory, it's so closed in with so many points for people to camp doors etc.

Much prefer locations I can properly scout out.

[dense zenith]

factory best map

but of course that boils down to personal preference

[bold kernel]

for me the worst is that my friends don't play it anymore but i like it, but playing alone is very hard for me

[dense zenith]

there are advantages to playing alone though as well

[hollow flower]

I don't have any friends who play tbh, I just team up with people off the discord.

[hybrid cypress]

''you can play this game as a nice guy''

me

[dense zenith]

blast anyone who wiggles at you with impunity

never try to be nice

[bold kernel]

yea i can tell that

[hybrid cypress]

to be honest

it took him 10 seconds to decide if he shoots me in the back

[hollow flower]

Yeah I've given up trying to be nice unless we're in a group and come across a solo scav

[dense zenith]

I have 400~ hours since wipe and I've met a non douche bag friendly pmc a singular time

lol

[hollow flower]

If they have crap on them sometimes we just let them part ways.

[hybrid cypress]

have not *

[hollow flower]

Last time it happened this one guy was wiggling like he never wiggled before

As in "plz no I'm just a little scav dont hurt me"

[dense zenith]

player scavs are worse

definitely kill them lol

worst*

[hybrid cypress]

i sm judt here for the loot man 😦

dont want to start nothing

oh well

mostly cuz i suck at shoots like noone before

my gandma probably would do better

[wispy spindle]

if my leg or arm is blacked out or red but no HP on it.. what do i use to revive it?

[hybrid cypress]

surgery kit

[wispy spindle]

any of them?

[hybrid cypress]

just pull it on the body part

or splint

it wont heal it tho

just for the booboo

[flint mist]

does it make a difference whether I do chemical pt 4 or out of curiosity, besides the quest rewards?

[wispy spindle]

haha ok thanks.. do you have any like standard kit you take with you that can take care of anything that can happend?

[hybrid cypress]

1 kit for all ?

dont know

but

IFAK and splint

[languid flare]

CMS+IFAK I guess?

[hybrid cypress]

is a good idea to take with

CMS is a little to expensive for starters

[languid flare]

Fair

Dont have one myself

[wispy spindle]

so one IFAK and one splint should do it?

[languid flare]

But thats the standard kit

[hybrid cypress]

yes

[languid flare]

Usually

[hybrid cypress]

well

if you get lit up

you might need 2 meds

[languid flare]

If you win fights you usually get some from your kill 😛

[hybrid cypress]

true

[languid flare]

NOT always tho

Especially Scavs

[hybrid cypress]

going for the loot just gets you killed a lot of times

[atomic knoll]

I say always have painkillers

at least 2 stacks of it

Reason being it's pretty easy to get black body parts

[wispy spindle]

no bandage or splint?

[atomic knoll]

And painkillers allows you to use those parts

[languid flare]

@wispy spindle IFAK has bandage included

[atomic knoll]

For sure include those too

[languid flare]

Same as Car and Salewa

[wispy spindle]

thats nice

[bold kernel]

is Lion Statue worth anything ?

[fallen nest]

Seems like i'm getting bad luck rn on matches.

Always dying to shit I can't see

[atomic knoll]

Yeah. Car is a pretty cheap option as a replacement for bandages when you run out

[languid flare]

Same @fallen nest

[hybrid cypress]

painkillers last for 2 mins

[atomic knoll]

And it heals quite a large amount

[wispy spindle]

so right now i have car and salewa and IFAK and some splints and painkillers... should be good to go now

[hybrid cypress]

so if you qickly wanna run out

[bold kernel]

is Lion Statue worth anything ?

[hybrid cypress]

you never wanna pimpwalk out

xD

lion statue is worth a lot i think

[dense zenith]

lion statue is worth getting out with

[languid flare]

@bold kernel You dont need to ask in both beginner chats at the same time, dude

[dense zenith]

I'm not on atm but like 120-150k I think

[bold kernel]

@languid flare why ? did u reply me ?

[dense zenith]

haven't checked in a bit

[languid flare]

Its not like anyone had a chance too

[bold kernel]

@dense zenith I got it out ? what should I do with it ?

[dense zenith]

sell it on the flea market

if you're not level 5, wait til you're 5

[bold kernel]

@dense zenith ok thanks

I am 14

[dense zenith]

np

[bold kernel]

found it on scav run

[dense zenith]

yeah there are trades for it later but you won't have to worry about that for a long time

[bold kernel]

ok thanks

[hollow flower]

Would you say the base SKS is one of the best starter guns still? It's recoil is quite nice and you don't necessarily need to worry about having a rig for mags.

[languid flare]

Rigs are cheap.

[atomic knoll]

^

I prefer vepr km or vepr hunter

[languid flare]

^

KM did help me so much

[hollow flower]

I have bugger all money left atm, was down to only 50k last night.

[languid flare]

Makes you slow down and make good shots instead of spray and pray

Well

Then do Scav runs

With 50k you wont do much with SKS either

[hollow flower]

Yeah I was running interchange to make some cash.

Up to about 150k now.

[atomic knoll]

If you are not confident in engages, you can run the outskirts of interchange

OR even better - shoreline

[hollow flower]

I don't know if I was just lucky, but the two runs I did were almost deserted.

[dense zenith]

I'm not fond of the sks personally, but if you're having success with it, why stop?

[hollow flower]

Didn't see anyone lol.

[languid flare]

Iam not very good at fighting when Iam alone, but in a team... 👌

@hollow flower Interchange is often like deserted, yes

Its spooky sometimes

[atomic knoll]

Have you been into the mall?

[hollow flower]

Yeah

[languid flare]

Yes

[hollow flower]

Even went into kiba

it was open and looted the scraps

[dense zenith]

stash runs on interchange and shoreline are pretty safe and decent ways to make some money for beginners

[atomic knoll]

^

[languid flare]

@dense zenith I run OLI, also pretty good

So many computers too

[dense zenith]

back of oli is pretty fine too, yeah

[atomic knoll]

OLI is the best

[dense zenith]

lots of hardware items

generally not that dangerous

[languid flare]

OLI has like... uhhh... 4+4+2+3+... some extra Computer fairly close

[atomic knoll]

Next to the....big megamart which I still have no idea how to read it

[languid flare]

Then some Hardware

• 2 military boxes if you know where 😉

[hollow flower]

My biggest issue usually is getting a backpack on my scavs.

[languid flare]

^

3/4 of mine have none or a tiny

[dense zenith]

if your scav doesn't have a backpack, or has a small pack, just run through on factory

[languid flare]

Pff

[dense zenith]

don't waste the 15-25 mins on interchange

[languid flare]

If I'd see it always in the screen

Also I die in Factory like 100% so far

So rather get small mun

[bold kernel]

@atomic knoll goshan? the red one?

[fiery locust]

my insurance screen just bugged out and all the stuff is gone, what can i do?

[languid flare]

Cry and be sad, I guess

[fiery locust]

😦

that hurts

[languid flare]

Hope is was nothing big

[dense zenith]

relaunch the game and reopen your messages from prapor/therapist, if you still see a message

if not, not sure and rip

[languid flare]

^
That maaay help

[fiery locust]

some armoured tac rigs and a decked out sks

omg that worked

thank you

[dense zenith]

np

if you seem to "lose" anything, restarting generally works

tarkov is a buggy world

[fiery locust]

yeah lol

[mint hawk]

@fiery locust restart gane

Game

The move error happens to everyone and is super annoying

[atomic knoll]

@bold kernel yep

I have lost money while entering a raid

[fiery locust]

why is 6b23-1 worth more than 6b2 armour?

OMG ITS CLASS 2 THATS WEHY

WHY

[atomic knoll]

I bought 50k in to my raid. Insuring costs 15k-ish

Lost the rest

[wise shore]

Cheesus... got the bug where I couldn't fire, open doors or anything...

Btw, if you do get that bug just run

running and stopping fixed it

[tawny ocean]

Be aware that there is also a pretty rare inventory glitch where your items can't swap slots

Lost an entire scav raid of really nice loot because it doesn't seem to be fixable atm, so

[flint mist]

how exactly does run through work? I went through customs just now and only found a single scav that I killed and got run through
is it only an xp penalty?

[trim herald]

Yes

Also counts as a death towards your survival rate

[tawny ocean]

It counts as a death?

That's dumb

[flint mist]

what do I have to do to avoid it?

[tawny ocean]

I believe you have to stay in the map for a considerable amount of time

[atomic knoll]

Do barter items count towards the buying/selling value of the vendor?

[inland mantle]

how much time is the sherpa request gonna take?

[young geyser]

How important is durability on Armor? Is it worth getting the class 4 with 40 hp or is it just going to get shredded instantly?

[flint mist]

does it matter which quest I turn in when I get chemical pt 4?

[young geyser]

Yes. Each vendor gives different rewards. I believe Skier is the best because it unlocks the black Class 4 helmet

[flint mist]

ohh, thanks!

[bronze ice]

@young geyser It matters a lot

You can check the exact calculations on the tarkov app

but there's usually a steep drop in chance to stop at 80-90%

like, really steep

I'd assume the durability ratio is going to be changed later on

but right now having 100% and 95% durability can change A LOT

[young geyser]

So its not really worth the extra 6k since its only stopping one round more

[tribal cove]

I noticed that M80 ammo is 5 time cheaper than m61. Is M80 bad? I thought it is one of the best

[bronze ice]

really depends on the situation

For example, level 4 against 5.45x39 PP

It's not that bad

but noone should be using that ammo in practice

so

🤷

@tribal cove https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Ballistics

[young geyser]

Whats the app called? It looks very useful

[bronze ice]

Tarkov wiki

has ads, but yeah, it's pretty useful

[young geyser]

It'd be nice if they added that graph to the website too

[bronze ice]

I was thinking of creating an app, but then I found this one

and with ads blocked it's fine

[young geyser]

Its pretty decent

Some things are outdated though.

[alpine trout]

Say I have enough money to upgrade from the tin helmet

what should I use

tc2001?

[waxen forge]

Helmets are really more money than they are worth

[small perch]

@tribal cove m80 is really good, dont worry about it

[alpine trout]

@waxen forge Seems all armour is useless

[small perch]

I would buy armor way before helmet @alpine trout

[waxen forge]

Body armor servers a purpose. It just isn't something that will make you invincible

[young geyser]

Toz scavs are brutal if you dont have armour

[small perch]

Helmet will be fine, as long the other player isnt using good quality ammo

[alpine trout]

yeah but the 1968 helmet covers like 2 areas

which body armour should I upgrade to then

I've been using armoured rigs

[small perch]

Can still get one tap @alpine trout

[waxen forge]

You are just going to die wearing a good/great helmet more times that it will save you (statistically). Yes it will save you some but it will fail you more times. I rarely bother to buy much more than a 6B47

[tribal cove]

@small perch oke. I was about to sell my 300 M80 rounds I saved up from raids