beginners-assistance

[tepid fossil]

Gotcha

6b3tm and comtacs

will buy

[stone surge]

i prefer sordins, but some like comtacts.

comtacts footsteps and stuff are fine, i just hate the sound quality.

[fallen crane]

is the only difference between mp7's the rail on the bottom?

[left oxide]

The only thing that sucks about those early game armored rigs is that you will not have a lot of space for bringing loot out

Which is why I usually recommend black rock+armor vest

[stone surge]

@fallen crane mp7a1 has a foregrip on it already

mp7a2 you can put one on it yourself

[open flower]

can i not move while using a cms kit

[fallen crane]

thought so

[stone surge]

mp7a2 is better modded, but more expensive

[left oxide]

@open flower correct

[stone surge]

mp7a1 is good out of the box

and thus cheaper

[open flower]

wish i knew that

can i cancel it

[stone surge]

if you wanna go cheapy you can just go mp7a1

[left oxide]

Yes just click like a lunatic

😛

[stone surge]

you can hold LMB or RMB

to cancel animations

[sand kindle]

@sweet lantern mosin with sb ammo mauls everyone for me

cheapo scope

[icy summit]

LPS ammo

[open flower]

ty

[sweet lantern]

im going shoreline bro

i need somethin reliable

not like oh shit i missed im dead as fuck

[icy summit]

ummm

[stone surge]

What fits your budget

[icy summit]

i don't think there are any options then

.If you miss, you lost

don't miss.

[stone surge]

and do you want semi or automatic

[sweet lantern]

either one works bruh

i got 200k roubles rn

[stone surge]

lol

[sweet lantern]

204k to be exact

bruh dont laugh

this shit is difficult

[stone surge]

just go scav and extract for money

[icy summit]

bruuuuh

[wet spade]

this game

is so freaking tilting

when i scope in i lag

the sniper scope is lagging me like hell ):

[fallen crane]

its not well optimised so it renders everything twice

[fickle kettle]

another work of T45M

[outer lake]

get a better computer

[wet spade]

only when i use sniper scope tho ):

[stone surge]

@fickle kettle T45M doing work

[fickle kettle]

such work

[stone surge]

kek

[fallen crane]

best 1x sight in your opinion and why?

[icy summit]

PK-06

[stone surge]

reflex you mean?

pk-06 probably

[fallen crane]

yeah

[left oxide]

Walther MRS IMO

I know it's dissenting

[icy summit]

Walther is up there.

[left oxide]

But I love that sight

[icy summit]

Walther is deffiently top 3

[fallen crane]

pk-06 is pretty small

[icy summit]

Get a mount close to the eye

i use it on my RPK runs

[mystic pasture]

I like the MRS

[stone surge]

PK-06 I use for main reflex on m4 or mp7s and such

and I use Deltapoint as canted sight

[gentle rover]

So, uh. Gas cans?

[left oxide]

Walther MRS is killer on stuff like SMGs, ARs, VSS, stuff like that

[icy summit]

Im a sucker for the x2

[stone surge]

I prefer dealtapoint as canted, because pk-06 dot is kinda small

[icy summit]

VSS is PSO only

[mystic pasture]

Im sure this is an unpopular opinion but I like the okp-7

[fallen crane]

the monstrum 2x is nice

[icy summit]

Prove me WRONG

[mystic pasture]

the one that goes on the vss

[gentle rover]

#weapon-modding

[icy summit]

Dovetail or normal?

[left oxide]

OKP-7 is okay but it gives bad stats

[mystic pasture]

Yeh I like the reticle

[stone surge]

pk-06 seems a bit dull at first

but you will love once you use it more

it's a no bullshit just works reflex.

gives good vision all around when scoped in

[gentle rover]

Ok. Where are gas cans looted and how do empty cans work?

[mystic pasture]

Empty ones are just empty for now

no way to refeul them

[left oxide]

PK-06 is just great cuz it only takes away 1 ergo.

[mystic pasture]

and Gas cans can be all over

[stone surge]

you can refuel the blue ones

in hideout

[left oxide]

The sight is clean but a little tight for me

[mystic pasture]

Oh yeh

[gentle rover]

??

So, how do I remove it from my generator?

[stone surge]

@left oxide I kinda love deltapoint too

[mystic pasture]

just click the drop down and click none

[left oxide]

Click an empty slot @gentle rover

[gentle rover]

Ah. Gotcha

[stone surge]

MRS/Weaver I liked at first, but I dont like them anymore

because they take up too much vision

but that's all preference

pick the reflex you like

[left oxide]

@stone surge You can refill the fuel tanks? Where?

[stone surge]

Only blue ones

in hideout

[left oxide]

Yeah... Where

[stone surge]

oh nvm

[mystic pasture]

Are you thinking about the blue fuel can craft?

[stone surge]

you cant refuel them lol

[mystic pasture]

for zibbos and crikents

[stone surge]

you can only craft them

[left oxide]

Yeah IIRC you cannot refuel any fuel tanks.

[mystic pasture]

yeh

yeah thought so, you cant

[stone surge]

I thought crafting required a 0/0 blue one

my bad

[mystic pasture]

they took the bug out, its planned in the future tho

[stone surge]

you can only craft it, not fuel it

[left oxide]

Though there are talks about being able to bring in fuel tanks to raids and filling them up from cars/gas stations

Which would be really cool

[stone surge]

but that's 100% on the list of things BSG wants to add

they prob wanna make it so you can do it at a gas station

[mystic pasture]

woo more people at gas station in customs, reshala, hatchlings with fuel in their ass pocket 😄

[tepid fossil]

@stone surge this rig?

It's an armored rig

[mystic pasture]

thats what I use for budget runs

[left oxide]

Honestly giving more value to Customs would be great. That map sucks balls lol

[tepid fossil]

[stone surge]

Correct

[mystic pasture]

Ragman level 2

[stone surge]

6b3tm and only use it aslong as it's between 30 and 40 durability

[mystic pasture]

I like customs, but only to rush dorms for some fights

[worldly frost]

How is it that items sell for so much more on the flea market than any trader?

[stone surge]

it repairs decent

[mystic pasture]

@worldly frost cos people buy from high level traders and relist on the flea at a higher price for people who dont have those traders yet

[left oxide]

@worldly frost Some items are loot-only (not purchasable from traders) and some items are locked behind loyalty levels or quests, so people put them up for a premium knowing not everyone has access.

[worldly frost]

There is a drastic difference, to make 2x, 3x, 4x, or up to 10x profit if you sell on the flea market and that doesn't make sense to me

[mystic pasture]

Some are limited stock as well, like ammo, so people buy out ALL the ammo, then relist it on the flea market

[left oxide]

^That too.

[mystic pasture]

The traders have global stock limits

[tepid fossil]

40/40 durab? @stone surge

[worldly frost]

So I'm basically estimating, I've got nearly 1mil right now but the stuff I've sold to traders rather than flea market must have made me lose probably 500k in profits by now

Insane

[stone surge]

@tepid fossil ye thats best obviously

[tepid fossil]

gotcah

[sweet lantern]

ok veyx i went on a scav run im at 500k now

[stone surge]

but aslong as you can repair it and it stays above 30 durability

[mystic pasture]

@worldly frost but you're leveling your traders up by selling to them

[stone surge]

its fine to use

below 30 and I would sell it for a fresh one

[mystic pasture]

you need rep and amount of money spent/sold to

to level them

[worldly frost]

I do that aswell, just trying to get a specific amount of money to buy a junkbox

[mystic pasture]

Selling to a trader counts to the "money spent"

Cool

[tepid fossil]

55k

[sweet lantern]

so what gun do i make for the shoreline run veyx, i got 500k now

[worldly frost]

I've sold nearly 1.6mil worth to all traders combined

[fickle kettle]

@tepid fossil that rig is super good o-ob

[tepid fossil]

Gotcah

[left oxide]

@sweet lantern Nice, now while you wait for your scav timer go do a pistol run and try and get some more shit without risking much at all

[fickle kettle]

it even better since the dev buff it

it used to be 30 dur

[tepid fossil]

I bought it

[fickle kettle]

now is 40 dur + titan

[sweet lantern]

@left oxide what map?

[fickle kettle]

@tepid fossil try to unlock ragman level 2

[tepid fossil]

Got it

[fickle kettle]

he sell it

[tepid fossil]

I already bought the armor

[stone surge]

@fickle kettle That rig is so good in terms of value, it's even better priced than tier 3

[tepid fossil]

on flea

[fickle kettle]

ikr

[stone surge]

there's no decent tier 3 you can get + rig

for less tahn 50k

[left oxide]

@sweet lantern I recommend interchange for money runs, if you'd like I can send you a short write-up in a DM for new players at Interchange.

[tepid fossil]

True

[sweet lantern]

please send the write up lol

[left oxide]

One sec

[tepid fossil]

now i'll just get comtacs

[fickle kettle]

srsly that rig is 1 of the best thing in 0.12

[stone surge]

yup

[mystic pasture]

I use it all the time

I get it back on insurance more often than not too

[tepid fossil]

is it this one?

[stone surge]

yeah and you can re-use it like 3 times or so

[mystic pasture]

Yup

[stone surge]

belwo 30 i would sell it for sure

but above 30 and its fine

[fickle kettle]

like it help you dont need to buy amour + vest every raid

[tepid fossil]

[fickle kettle]

you just need to buy that shet and go in XD

[tepid fossil]

So should i just get anything?

out of that

[zealous owl]

anyoen wana link up and loot shit together?

[tepid fossil]

since there's no durab

[fickle kettle]

@zealous owl #521628660298678283 #news-setup #pvp-lfg

[stone surge]

@tepid fossil what do you mean

[tepid fossil]

The comtac

you said you can only use it for 3 raids or so

[fickle kettle]

that comtac is okay

[stone surge]

No

comtacts you can use forever

[tepid fossil]

"yeah and you can re-use it like 3 times or so
"

Oh

[stone surge]

no

that was 6b3tm

the armored rig we were talking about

[tepid fossil]

Oh lol

[stone surge]

Headsets I get back from insurance very often

[fallen crane]

@stone surge just watched the shoreline vid, so many kills

[tepid fossil]

Here's what i'm gonn use

[stone surge]

and since they have no dura

you can just re-use it

[fallen crane]

those first two guys had no idea what hit them

[mystic pasture]

oh no

the stash

I cri

😄

[tepid fossil]

Shh

[mystic pasture]

❤️

[stone surge]

@fallen crane yeh that shoreline run was crazy, killed 2 streamers aswell

[tepid fossil]

I'm gonna sell stuff kay

I was

[fickle kettle]

tch tch

[mystic pasture]

its oki

[tepid fossil]

So is that good enough?

[fallen crane]

my claim to fame is killing slushpuppy with a vepr hunter on a scav run lmao

[left oxide]

The reason for them saying that, @tepid fossil, is because it uses "titan" material class, which repairs better than most materials. For example, ceramic armor repairs like shit.

[tepid fossil]

Here's the gun

[fickle kettle]

that sight

[tepid fossil]

Ohh @left oxide

i don't know

[fickle kettle]

ugh

[tepid fossil]

Is it bad?

[ruby wolf]

any budget vepr km builds people can share?

[stone surge]

sort of, it's preference again

but it takes up a lot of vision

[icy summit]

i like it

[stone surge]

that's why most ppl dont like it

[tepid fossil]

True

[icy summit]

bulit in laser

[stone surge]

but some do

[left oxide]

It's okay if you like it but it's a little cumbersome for me

[tepid fossil]

What should i use then

[stone surge]

if you zoom in with that thing, you dont see your surroundings that well anymore

and that's a huge dealbreaker for me

[left oxide]

PK-06, Walther MRS, good sights

[tulip bridge]

so i spawned in with a labs keykard on my scav

[fickle kettle]

you wanna use 2x or just reflex ?

[tepid fossil]

Anything really

[tulip bridge]

is it worth any significance this early in the game?

[stone surge]

@tepid fossil pk-06 babey

[tepid fossil]

will be playing on customs

[ruby wolf]

anyone here actively use vepr km?

[stone surge]

<

[tepid fossil]

@stone surge

okedoke

I have a pk-06 anyway

[fallen crane]

@tulip bridge free 200k on the flea market

[stone surge]

i used to play vepr km exclusively

[left oxide]

@tulip bridge Just leave with it asap. Sell it for capital. You shouldn't run labs for a pretty long time and it'll be worth about 190k.

[stone surge]

till i found M1A

my true love

[tulip bridge]

oath

[fickle kettle]

psshh

why vper km

when you can use SKS with T45M

[stone surge]

NO

[tepid fossil]

So is my setup good

[ruby wolf]

any decent budget builds for vepr km u can show me 😄

[stone surge]

Dont listen to him

I have to say

[mystic pasture]

@tepid fossil looks good bud

[stone surge]

i think if 2 SKS T45M people with gen4 altyn are going to war with eachother

that'd be interesting

is all i can say

[left oxide]

I'd have to agree with @fickle kettle, SKS is the best cost-efficient weapon for new players.

[tepid fossil]

here it is

[fickle kettle]

i mean the SKS is okay

[stone surge]

looks fine

[tepid fossil]

Gonna grab mags 1 second

[left oxide]

Looks great @tepid fossil

[fickle kettle]

just dont use T45m

it was just memeing lol

[stone surge]

@tepid fossil 30 bullets is all you have?

[tepid fossil]

Right

[stone surge]

you really need to bring more

[mystic pasture]

I really dont like the sks

[tepid fossil]

No i'm gonna grab 2 mags

see

[stone surge]

2 mags and do 1 60 stack

in ur safe container

[fallen crane]

^

[left oxide]

Bring in a stack of 60 rounds with your container, yeah

[tepid fossil]

Kay

[left oxide]

Lol everyone at once.

[tepid fossil]

I'll buy 60 bullets then

Lol

[stone surge]

after a while you'll notice that even 1 stack is sometimes not enough

so i usually bring 2

but with alpha, 1 is plenty

[left oxide]

Yeah in your alpha keep your best healing until you find something with higher value in raid to replace it.

[mystic pasture]

even 2 isnt enough sometimes (VSS sad noises) that things a hose

[left oxide]

Along with a stack of ammo.

@mystic pasture I only take in stuff like the A18 rig so I can have like 10 spare mags hahaha

[stone surge]

In case you go IDEA in interchange and you have no spare bullets https://i.imgur.com/CBKIMvl.png

[left oxide]

@mystic pasture at least when it comes to VSS/VAL

Or 7.62 MDR

[fickle kettle]

tx-15 DML

[stone surge]

HEY

[open cliff]

Is anyone trying to partner up while they play? I heard the more the merrier .

[stone surge]

not everyone likes SKS T45M okey

[mystic pasture]

@left oxide all im gonna say is there's a reason I have one ammo case just for SP-6

[stone surge]

I need m995 to kill my scavs

[fickle kettle]

nah dw

[left oxide]

[stone surge]

[tepid fossil]

there you go

Purrfect

[icy summit]

[tepid fossil]

Can you put a visor on the helm?

[fickle kettle]

i'm still amazed that i survied and kill glukar + his gang with that SKS t45m

[icy summit]

NOT ON THIS ONE.

[tepid fossil]

oof

[mystic pasture]

The real reason is the twitch drops crashed green gunpowder costs so I crafted like 2000+ rounds of it

[stone surge]

@fickle kettle Where do you run t45m?

what map

[fickle kettle]

reserve

[icy summit]

SKS lost it's popularity

recently.

[stone surge]

aren't you dissapointed when you actually have a chance to kill good geared players

and your shit bullets let you down

[fickle kettle]

no

i still killed them

alots

even raider + bosses

it just

[icy summit]

shot them in a head

[fickle kettle]

very very very hard

[icy summit]

alot

xD

[mystic pasture]

Just hit them with the gun instead

[stone surge]

you mean t45m is OP ?

[left oxide]

Click heads 4Head

[stone surge]

mhm

[fickle kettle]

and i have to play like very pussy

[stone surge]

lol

[fickle kettle]

like letting the boss come to me

not gonna "push" them

[fallen crane]

is it weird to have a rainbow row of injectors in your stash?

[plucky burrow]

rush in with knife when bullets fail

[left oxide]

It's B E A U T I F U L

The Christmas spirit

[mystic pasture]

take em all at once

[fallen crane]

OD on them mfers

[fickle kettle]

i 1 time also tired to use the AKM + drum mag T45m from the dead scav guard

and it take almost the drum to killed Glukar

[left oxide]

Single-handedly perpetuating the opioid epidemic, that @fallen crane

[icy summit]

oi @open cliff
First of all #521628660298678283
Second, im running Newbie Interchange, if you want to join.

[plucky burrow]

throw like darts and hope they OD

[fallen crane]

i got a pack of 5 from twitch drops and it looked kinda cool so i bought 5 more

[mystic pasture]

That was my last drop 😄

5 days of watching pestily nearly kill himself from exhaustion 😄

[fallen crane]

mine was the pumpkin head lol

dude made bank though holy shit

he even started raising money for charity after new years too

hes made $84,000 AUD in a week

[mystic pasture]

yeah man if I had the views I wouldnt sleep either

[fallen crane]

for charity

[stone surge]

Not bad

[fickle kettle]

i tired to do this like

4-5 run lately

the result kinda the same as this

but srsly, it not fun using that SKS + t45m

[stone surge]

Lol, i actually never run reserve

i'm prob gonna try it sometime though

[fickle kettle]

gonna delete that picture first

[stone surge]

^^

[fickle kettle]

it a lab ver 2

[stone surge]

Flexing in beginners chat WeirdChamp!

[fickle kettle]

it just take longer time to clear and loot

ol i didnt mean too

[misty locust]

Hello anyone want to help me through some of my first raids of the new patch?

[finite pawn]

Why’s it take so long to get in a game ?

[stone surge]

@fickle kettle You seen my shoreline raid in videos? :4 it was my first time with thermal, I always promised myself to never go thermal as it's cheesy, but I did it and I enjoyed it a lot lol..

I recommend it over ur t45m

[fickle kettle]

srsly

anything is better than T45m

[stone surge]

Lol

[fickle kettle]

i was only doing this for meme XD

[stone surge]

yeh ofcourse.

[fallen crane]

how is svd compared to m1a?

[fickle kettle]

but i srsly didnt know it turn out that lucky

[stone surge]

@fallen crane it's good, but high recoil

[fallen crane]

liberated a fully decked out one yesterday

[stone surge]

M1A shoots like a fking machine

[fallen crane]

suppressed, reapir, canted sights

[stone surge]

it's honestly the best semi imo

not even close.

[fallen crane]

yeah you run m61 in it or?

[stone surge]

ehm

my bottom 10 bullets = m80 to save some money

rest is m61

so i basically shoot m61, till i reach the end of my mag then m80

but i almost never get there anyways

[fallen crane]

yeah true

[stone surge]

and I fill them with m61 too

[left oxide]

Just buy M80. M61 is overkill.

[stone surge]

because those bullets shoot first

m80 is sucky now

thats why i jumped to m61

m80 takes like 4-5shots to kill tier 5

m61 takes 2 shots

and 1 if it frags

[left oxide]

Most people don't run tier 5

And it only takes 3

[stone surge]

it doesn't take 3

[tepid fossil]

Should i just grab a salewa nstead of an ifak?

[stone surge]

maybe 3 but it depends on luck aswell

and whether it frags

[left oxide]

Gotta remember this is a beginner chat, and they definitely can't afford M61 builds right now

Gonna go bankrupt fast buying best ammo always

[stone surge]

No but nigel asked me

[tepid fossil]

Uh

[stone surge]

whether I used m61 or m80

[tepid fossil]

ifak or salewa?

[stone surge]

and I answered him

with my thoughts behind why I use m61

[left oxide]

They're both good, IFAK is nice cuz it's a 1x1, Salewa is nice because 400/400

[fickle kettle]

@tepid fossil anything is good

[left oxide]

But it's a 2x1

[tepid fossil]

Right

[stone surge]

@tepid fossil I generally use salewa as main healer

because it heals limbs full after blackout

ifak doesn't

[tepid fossil]

Yeah might as well grab a salewa instead

[left oxide]

@stone surge No it doesn't haha

[finite pawn]

16 mins waiting so I backed out

[rustic onyx]

Does this game have any SEA server?

[stone surge]

i use ifak in safe container as backup

[finite pawn]

Try again

[left oxide]

Only CMS and Surv12 heal blacked limbs

[stone surge]

@left oxide you apparently didnt understand me

after you surv kit your blacked out limb

an ifak only heals to 50

[left oxide]

Oh got it

My bad

[stone surge]

salewa heals more than 50

i rather heal once to get my leg back up to full hp

rather than 2 items

times*

[tepid fossil]

Should i replace my au splint with an ifak on my container then?

[left oxide]

No

Only medkit that heals breaks is the Grizzly

And you don't wanna bring that in raid

[stone surge]

@tepid fossil if you dont have much space and money

just run with 1 salewa

[fallen crane]

surv12 does too doesn't it?

[tepid fossil]

Gotcha

[stone surge]

most of the time that'll suffice and you might find meds on the way

[tepid fossil]

Yup

[left oxide]

Surv12 isn't a medkit

[mystic pasture]

Alu splint just went up in price by 2k too

Bloody Therapist

[stone surge]

surv12 is just a better CMS

does same thing

and fixes fractures

[mystic tinsel]

salewa can heal breaks?

[mystic pasture]

Surv12 takes longer, heals breaks, and doesnt take as much max hp away

[stone surge]

No, only Surv12 and Splints can

[tepid fossil]

Surv12 is for blacked out arms legs or stomach @fallen crane

[mystic tinsel]

ok

[tepid fossil]

same thing with cms

[left oxide]

Also using Surv12 for a break is really cost ineffective as the price for the item is hefty and the use timer is really long.

[mystic pasture]

^

[fallen crane]

yeah surv heals fractures too though @tepid fossil

[mystic pasture]

I dont bother with it #alpha gang

[stone surge]

yeh you dont wanna surv12 to fix a broken leg

or arm

but it's possible

if ur really desperate

[tepid fossil]

mhm

[stone surge]

and dont have a splint

[mystic tinsel]

then splint is a must right

[mystic pasture]

In fact whenever I get one I give it to my mate who has EOD and he gives me two cms kits

[left oxide]

I only started bringing in Surv12 kits when I had my beta container

[stone surge]

yes

[mystic pasture]

I think im winning

[tepid fossil]

I only run surv12 when i'm with a duo or trio

and i mainly use cms

[mystic pasture]

My group all share cms and surv12 kits anyways

[fallen crane]

surv fits snugly at the bottom of the gamma

[stone surge]

AU Splint (5/5), Painkillers, CMS or surv12, Salewa are basic meds I always bring

[left oxide]

Super important to remember, the reason Surv12 is better than CMS, CMS will heal you to a MUCH lower maximum HP for that blacked out limb.

[mystic pasture]

I always bring a cheese

fastest heal

[left oxide]

Surv12 will only take away a few max points of HP.

[stone surge]

I always bring surv12 with me lately

i dont mind it taking 4sec longer

i feel fresh after it

and not after a CMS

[mystic pasture]

I have been really lazy with quests, so I only have my alpha still

[left oxide]

Yep you will get to a point where, IMO, you should bring a Surv12 in every raid.

[quartz holly]

are there items i shouldnt sell ? things like bolts and tapes etc..

[stone surge]

except if ur stuck with alpha

not worth risking it in ur bag

everytime

[fallen crane]

this late in the wipe you can snipe a better container from fence

[stone surge]

true]

[mystic pasture]

Ive been lookin

[left oxide]

@quartz holly Keep stuff you need for in-raid tasks and stuff you need for hideout upgrades

[stone surge]

Surv12 is amazing though and def worth checking out, but CMS will suffice most of the time too

[fallen crane]

pull up twitch or youtube for 20 mins and spam refresh on secure containers

you ought to see one

[quartz holly]

got it

[mystic pasture]

Spam refresh?

they're not in flea anymore

[fallen crane]

vendor items show up in flea

spam it until one shows up from fence

every time a player sells their secure container, it shows up at fence

[mystic pasture]

Yeah, I didnt think you could search them in flea thats all 😄

[fallen crane]

yeah you can't search just gotta go to the secure container tab

[left oxide]

For other people that are unsure what items to keep, here is a handy list of things you need to turn in to traders that includes every quest in the game:

https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/ejzmzu/qol_new_players_please_secure_container_the_items/

[mystic pasture]

Which category is that under? Containers and cases?

[fallen crane]

containers and case>secured containers

there should be one in it from peacekeeper already

[fallen crane]

all you have to do is spam refresh in top right corner and as soon as fence has one, you will see it

shit im retarded, just gear>secured containers

[spice dawn]

ahh got it working finally

[mystic pasture]

Is this gonna be cos I dont have peacekeeper levelled?

[tepid fossil]

just a quick question

[mystic pasture]

cos it doesnt show up

[tepid fossil]

is avs better than 6b3tm

[fallen crane]

wait really

wack

[left oxide]

Loads better @tepid fossil

[fallen crane]

mine shows up although i have him level 2

[mint hawk]

Just rush prapor quests.. Punisher part 6 gives you a epsilon container which is 2x4

[tepid fossil]

gotcha

scavs spawned with it lol

[mystic pasture]

ye I have PK LL2

[left oxide]

It repairs decently, max durability is X/70, has a ton of space for items

One of my favorite rigs

[mystic pasture]

I love the AVS rig

[mint hawk]

AVS helps with that Drum mag life

[fallen crane]

@mystic pasture

[left oxide]

Yeah

Also super handy for looting people's helmets

[mystic pasture]

Thats so weird Nigel

Mines just not there 😄

[fallen crane]

what are your flea market settings?

i only have exclude bartering offers

[stone surge]

@tepid fossil Avs is slightly better than 6b3tm but more expensive too

[mystic pasture]

Im a fuckin dumbass

[tepid fossil]

Gotcha

[mystic pasture]

Roubles

[stone surge]

it's mostly better in terms of durability & storage.

[mystic pasture]

what an idiot

[stone surge]

but it repairs pretty bad

[fallen crane]

haha

[stone surge]

compared to 6b3tm

[mystic pasture]

ty man

[left oxide]

Combined materials isn't that bad for repair rate.

[fallen crane]

good luck

[mystic pasture]

😄

[fallen crane]

iirc, its 700k for a beta, 1.2m for an epsilon and 3.2m for a gamma

[mystic pasture]

No work today, my birthday so I got gaming time

[fallen crane]

epsilon best value for rubles

ay happy birthday

[left oxide]

It's just that Titan and Ultralightweight Polyethylene are the best repair materials

[mystic pasture]

ty ty

[stone surge]

AVS is almost as expensive as Tactec

so i dont see a reason to ever go AVS

[coarse oasis]

as a fresh new player, how can i best use my starting cash before my first run / what equipenet should i get with that money ?

[stone surge]

for me it's 6b3tm -> tactec -> Zhuk 6A or nothing.

[left oxide]

PLenty of reasons to go AVS over Tactec

[stone surge]

Such as?

it's worse protection and repair rates

for about same price

you get more rig space, but tactec already has plenty.. it's not even that big of a difference

and you can just go bigger backpack to make up for that.

[left oxide]

AVS covers stomach, Tactec does not. AVS can hold drum mags, Tactec cannot. 5 less slots. Less ergo and turning speed.

[mystic pasture]

Helmets are awkward in some backpacks

[stone surge]

stomach = not useful anyways

[left oxide]

Also 50/50 vs 70/70

[mystic pasture]

having the slots in the rig is useful

[stone surge]

doesnt matter

AVS will die faster

and penetration values go by percentage of max durability

[left oxide]

Well you asked for reasons to use the AVS over Tactec, those are the reasons lol

[grim wagon]

i think the avs is often cheaper too

[stone surge]

tactecs go up for less than 100k quite often

and avs is essentially 80-100k

[left oxide]

Tactec is amazing, don't get me wrong, but the AVS is the winner here in terms of usability and cost efficiency

[stone surge]

and tier 5 is so much better than tier 4 now

[left oxide]

You have more opportunity to pay for your vest since you have more slots to fill

[stone surge]

especially with m80 nerf

[mystic pasture]

The cheapest max duarbilty of each on the flea

[stone surge]

and ppl using m855a1

[mystic pasture]

the tactec is 50k cheaper

[stone surge]

and tier 5 just does amazing vs those 2

same with ppl using PS 7.62

[left oxide]

I understand that 5 is better than 4, yes

[stone surge]

all the rounds I just mentioned are the most common decent loadouts ppl run

and all of them struggle vs tier 5

not tier 4

[left oxide]

But most people aren't running around with M4s

[icy summit]

~depends where.

[left oxide]

Tier 4 armor is the most cost efficent armor level out there

[stone surge]

No but people do run around with Adars, SKS, Vepr KMs

and everyone recommends them to run PS and m855a1

those rounds still struggle with tier 5

[icy summit]

I cant count how many times i got Thoraxed while wearing lvl 5/6

[left oxide]

^

[stone surge]

ah well

[left oxide]

Level 5 ain't gonna save you from a Mosin bullet, so why bother buying something so expensive that's outclassed by a 35k rifle?

Not worth it at low levels

[stone surge]

waht

mosin doesn't oneshot lvl 5

[left oxide]

It has the ability to.

[icy summit]

he double shots lvl 5

[stone surge]

^

[icy summit]

still not somethign i want to bet my life on.

Door Kicker Hat + M870

Factory time

[left oxide]

SNB has 75 dmg, 62 pen, 84% pen chance. I'm not risking that at a low level

[stone surge]

how does that oneshot though

it can frag.. but that chance is super low

[mystic pasture]

Thing is, all stuff like that, how many bullets it takes to pen/kill its all white room theory crafting that has some value but isnt the be all and end all of the game or how useful something actually is

There's so many other factors

[left oxide]

Hence "has the ability"

[stone surge]

Im happy ppl use AVS, means I have more tactecs for myself :4

thats the fun thing with tarkov though, there's a lot of options in terms of loadout

you can experiment and check what you like urself

[left oxide]

I'm happy people use Tactecs all the time, I just shoot them in the face and take it home

[mystic pasture]

yeah for sure

[icy summit]

xD

I use the TV

becouse im gay.

[mystic pasture]

Thats the thing right

[icy summit]

and bad

xD

[mystic pasture]

Just shoot em in the face

[left oxide]

TV-110 is clutch

[mystic pasture]

dont matter what rig they got on

😉

[icy summit]

it's all about them

Altyns

[mystic pasture]

I wore one to factory, got shot right in the face

[left oxide]

Killa cosplay

[mystic pasture]

3 hp left on my head

horrible noise

Id rather just die

[left oxide]

Rofl

[icy summit]

where are the golden days

when we used to wear altyns and forts

and Hatchet people on factory

[mystic pasture]

legit never worn an altyn since

[left oxide]

Lmao watch Anton's stream, he does dumb shit like that all the time

[icy summit]

Or that one time

when 4 of us threw ~30 flashbangs into factory office

with some poor low level sitting there.

[left oxide]

Their poor ears

[mystic pasture]

pls no. I am a grenade magnet

givin me ptsd

[fallen crane]

where is the shorline store safe?

[marble blade]

gas station

[worldly frost]

Just went on a scav run on factory for some quick loot, saw two player scavs looting, didn't shoot, went q-e to say hi, they didn't shoot either, and we all went our merry way, I extracted without shooting a single bullet

That was very wholesome

when everything wants to kill you in this game

[left oxide]

Oh boy look at the time. As much as I'd love to stick around and bullshit and help, I'm tired af. I'm starting a beginners stream tomorrow if people would like to learn some stuff from more experienced play. I'll be answering questions as best I can the whole time. Until then, hope y'all have a good night/day whatever your time zone dictates

[mystic pasture]

Ive had ONE experience like that, up on the rafters outside bridge, pscav comes behind me and wiggles, I wiggle, we go on a merry 2 man killin spree, killed some pmcs. What did tarkov do?

Lost server connection on extract and lost it all 😂

[worldly frost]

I basically was going around walking like a scav, when I found a player scav looting for 10 seconds straight

I looked at him while I went down crouched to make no noise at all, then he got off loot, saw me

I dipped behind cover, sidewalked out of cover after not hearing any gunshots, q-e'd, he just looked at me and ignored me

Went upstairs to loot another guy

I went past him upstairs to reach extraction and that was it

[fallen crane]

lucky he didn't blast you the second he stopped looting

[worldly frost]

Oh yeah, but he is also lucky I didn't blast him for 10 seconds while he was looting

I'm pretty sure he was aware of that

[fallen crane]

yeah

[worldly frost]

He was just standing still for 10 secs in the open next to a military wood crate or smth

Best easy loot is probs scav run on factory, more so if you get lucky with map timing

Once found like 10-20 scavs/players/pmc piled up at an extraction to loot before leaving

took my sweet ass time

Almost got the money to get that junkbox after that run, just waiting for cheap flea market items to sell for more moneys 😄

[mystic pasture]

Nice

[fierce tangle]

got a tx-15 from twitch drops, what kind of mods should i do to it?

[worldly frost]

Why can't you instantly sell to traders from items inside your backpack? Irritating 😮

@fierce tangle This might help ya https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yHyVEVB5oN0qL_pR1qTNP1_ICmzJ3SCFJQNb6XDM_DQ/edit#gid=0

[fierce tangle]

thanks

[coarse oasis]

@worldly frost exactly what i needed thx

[mystic pasture]

tx-15? 😛

I have no idea if thats decent so dont copy it lol

[fierce tangle]

whats the difference betweed the adar and the tz-15?

*tx

[obtuse crystal]

adar is cheaper 😂

[fierce tangle]

tru lol. i have both in my inventory, got tx from twitch drops

[mystic pasture]

Oh look its damo

go away

[obtuse crystal]

🙂

Trust you to be in here, beginner

[mystic pasture]

Wow rude

The TX is real nice to shoot @fierce tangle

[obtuse crystal]

They can be modded almost exactly the same, think you can get them both down to like 30 vert recoil and 80ish horizontal

But I prefer TX too, shoots nicer..

[fierce tangle]

what are some decent budget mods i can add to it?

[obtuse crystal]

The Ergo pistol grip is a good start for the TX

RK-2 foregrip

[sand kindle]

gilded zibbo mission is so hard lol

[bronze ice]

TX-15 + Budget mods

[fierce tangle]

happens when your low level but get one from twitch drops lol

[bronze ice]

Sell it

[fierce tangle]

no skill required for leaving your laptop on pestily 24/7 haha

[worldly frost]

couldnt take advantage of twitch drops fml

[bronze ice]

I wouldn't recommend running with expensive gear at the start, but that's your choice

[fierce tangle]

ahh ok. so should i part it out and sell to vendors or sell the whole weapon?

[worldly frost]

@bronze ice what lvl are you at?

[bronze ice]

24 I think

Don't have much time to play this wipe 😦

[bold kernel]

where can i get ammo for adar

i found adar in a raid but only w/ 50 ammo in total

[bronze ice]

@fierce tangle I'd say sell on flea

[grim wagon]

@bold kernel peacekeeper

5.56x45mm

[bold kernel]

lvl 1 is enough?

[bronze ice]

People pay insane amounts for modded weapons atm

[grim wagon]

he should have basic ammo yes

[bold kernel]

aight is it any good even if it’s basic?

[grim wagon]

i think skier might sell some too.

M855 is ok. nothing special but does the job

[bold kernel]

Hm and any better from flea market for example?

[bronze ice]

@worldly frost Why ya askin?

[grim wagon]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/5.56x45mm_NATO

[bold kernel]

ty 🙂

[worldly frost]

@bronze ice Need a mentor to get that skrilla I'm lvl6 lmao

[fierce tangle]

ok so im gonna run an adar since those are cheap lol. i added a weaver sight and the low profile gas block. anything else i should add?

[fading plume]

change stock

and add pistol grip

for better ergonomics

[grim wagon]

that ^ if you have the $. its not needed though, it'll do the job ish

[fading plume]

and make sure a bigger mag size

[bronze ice]

I'm always happy to help as long as you're a fellow european, can't trust em foreigners and their lag-wizardry

I'm usually on in about 8 hours

If GF isn't doing scav runs 🙄

[worldly frost]

I've basically been doing flea market trading for the cash to get a junkbox

standard edition so I'm maxing space too easily if I don't sacrifice most of my gear

[bronze ice]

Lel, we can check your stash too later

[worldly frost]

If you're up to help with that I'd love to sometime

[bronze ice]

Going to be like the hoarders tv show

[worldly frost]

😄

oh god

I sold so many bartering items people pay 10-15k for to traders for like 700 I hate myself

[bronze ice]

Yikes, if you don't know the price always check flea first

[worldly frost]

feelsbadman just got killed to a player scav on factory when I didn't shoot

[bronze ice]

it will take a lot of time, but eventually you'll learn most item prices

[worldly frost]

In my defense I never had flea at the time

Still not a good excuse tho

[bronze ice]

Yeah, expect to make lots of mistakes at the start

It is a "hardcore" game after all

[obtuse crystal]

That emote 😂

[bronze ice]

PuNiShMeDaDdyNiKitA

[worldly frost]

I get most of my gear/money doing scav runs, did only 11 pmc raids and extracted 2 times

and yes the rigs and backpacks have loot in them

[bronze ice]

I'd sell most of that, personally

[worldly frost]

I have no influence with any traders to access 2

so..

[bronze ice]

Wut

[worldly frost]

Is it a good idea for me to go for a junkbox rn?

That's what I'm saving up for

[bronze ice]

Don't think so

Vests are pretty nice for saving space tho

But you can get some nice cases instead

Ammo case/pistol case

magazine case

sell the more expensive guns

and some of the tritons

[worldly frost]

I barely spend any space for ammo and I got only 1 pistol left from the starter gear

[bronze ice]

Alright

[worldly frost]

The magazine case would be a good idea though

I think it's also just as expensive if not tho?

if not more*

[fickle kettle]

dont forget to repair your amour

[bronze ice]

It's around 300k I believe

[night mural]

I wouldn't sell the tritons

[bronze ice]

🤷

[night mural]

Just use them

[bronze ice]

No

Don't listen to him

he's the devil

[spiral dirge]

I mean there's no rig equipped lol

[worldly frost]

Around 310k rn yeah

It's easy to get a rig

[spiral dirge]

So he could

[night mural]

The AKs might be worth replacing with other guns depending on what ammo you have access to

[bronze ice]

Scav vests 4 lyfe

Either way, it's personal preference and everyone's playstyle is different

[worldly frost]

one of my two successful pmc raids included a pistol only and killing a decked out gen4 guy with a headshot and getting m1a aswell

[bronze ice]

I'm a cheap bitch 🤷

[night mural]

Honestly no point getting rid of a Triton for a scav vest

[worldly frost]

I'm only lvl6 stanler with only lvl1 traders

[bronze ice]

You save 12k 😮

[night mural]

Best case scenario is the Triton gives you more slots for misc loot

[mystic pasture]

Pay the iron price only

Only use what you get from kills

😄

[stark fable]

You could carry out more than 12k of loot in the extra space the Triton gives

[bronze ice]

Yeah, but you'll always find a better rig in the match

[night mural]

Yep

True

[bronze ice]

I always leave with at least a Triton/Mk3

[empty frigate]

@bronze ice You put the triton in your backpack for more storage 😉

[bronze ice]

again - I'm cheap like that

[night mural]

But the point is, no point selling the Triton just to buy another vest just to find another vest

[bronze ice]

Eco

[night mural]

If he was buying fresh and had no vests at all I'd say just go scav and find a better one

[bronze ice]

My runs literally cost me 3k~ :x

[empty frigate]

6b5-15 is the best ECO cheep and servce as both rig and armor

Fuck all the otehr rigs early game

[bronze ice]

It's terrible tho :x

It's ceramic

[night mural]

@worldly frost at your levels you're probably better off forgetting 5.45 guns for a bit, unless you find some better ammo.

[worldly frost]

I'll upload a clip of this guy whiffing so hard on my unarmored pmc and getting rekt by a pistol

[night mural]

7.62 is decent enough low level with the PS rounds

Or a hunter/mosin

[bronze ice]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/biv1bu/psa_armor_and_their_actual_durability_armor/

[empty frigate]

6b3t-01M then, Ragman L2

Titan

[worldly frost]

I have sold most of my more expensive guns

[bronze ice]

Noice, now swap that handguard on the vepr

[worldly frost]

These I added the scopes to and thought I could run with them if I got friends to play with

I mean those ak versions I do not know if I should just get rid of

[stark fable]

So if I have a bunch of bt rounds, should I use 5.45? Or still go for 7.62 ps?

[grim wagon]

5.45 bt is good stuff

[worldly frost]

you guys will probably laugh at this when you realize how he didn't kill me somehow

[night mural]

BT better than BP it's just a tracer round

[bronze ice]

Your choice, remember -- everything is money essentially 🤷

[worldly frost]

This video is from 3 days ago first day of my tarkov

[stark fable]

I just want to survive lol

And kill the other fella before he kills me

[night mural]

BT is a solid choice imo

[stark fable]

I find tons of bt in the raids so I have several hundred rounds in my stash

[worldly frost]

Do you guys want to see something absurd

The one time I DECIDE I want to go interchange somewhat decked for a beginner the servers are lagging so hard I put a full 30 bullets of 7.62 into this one AI with shit armor and he doesn't die

Then I go knife him, and he just walks away, aims at a corner, starts shooting and I die

[bronze ice]

Btw, @worldly frost and anyone else who needs help, message me in around 7 hours

[worldly frost]

Added you on discord

@bronze ice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lWXrR3GEyc

pls watch and laugh

[chilly bane]

Anyone want to take me under their wing and show me the ways?

or just fuck some shit up.

[bold kernel]

The most laughable thing is doing a pistol run on woods

[worldly frost]

Hey

That was my first time playing woods

Now go watch it

[bold kernel]

I just did, gratz on the loot! U clapped him

[worldly frost]

m1a, gen4 assault and a pretty good helmet too as far as I'm concerned?

[chilly bane]

Yo I have a SVD with a scope, and 6 mags, also got some armor and a big bag, who tryna do a raid with me and help me out? I'm new lol

[night mural]

@chilly bane not going to be around for awhile yet but dm me if you need some advice or some guiding later on

[chilly bane]

word

[bold kernel]

pssst, click middle mouse button to examine faster

[worldly frost]

Okay

[grim wagon]

newb tip. always bandage first

also nice

[worldly frost]

And to search, what was it?:p

[celest fox]

are there any good places online to read or watch about military/tactical movement?

[bold kernel]

double click

[worldly frost]

Ok

I'm pretty sure I'll get better as long as I understand what I'm doing

[grim wagon]

another tip

click the mouse wheel to examine

[worldly frost]

I play CSGO a whole lot so aim/movement is not going to be hard

Danke schön

[grim wagon]

its totally different to csgo

[worldly frost]

I am aware of that

but when you have 3700 hours in a mostly aim and movement based game.. it h elps

[bold kernel]

I just told him that

[fickle kettle]

@celest fox you mean how to play EFT o-o ?

[grim wagon]

yes and no

[bold kernel]

Csgo aim definitely helps

[worldly frost]

Can I send any video here?

[mystic pasture]

@worldly frost do you know the hotkeys for looting?

[bold kernel]

better in #beginners-chat

[worldly frost]

I do not yet no

[mystic pasture]

Ctrl + Click is fast loot
Alt + Click is fast equip

[grim wagon]

ctrl click for days

[celest fox]

@fickle kettle well the game is pretty realistic, so I figured some real world application would help me understand

I just turned a corner and got blasted by two guys and can't help but feel I could have prevented that

[fickle kettle]

@celest fox well you can read the wiki for basic infomation and den watch alots of beginner guide video

[worldly frost]

@bold kernel Even if the video is unrelated to tarkov?

[fickle kettle]

and you can den start pratice on offline mode

[night mural]

@celest fox hearing is your best friend

[grim wagon]

you can post here on topic videos.

[celest fox]

do you lose gear on offline mode?

[night mural]

Nope

[grim wagon]

no

[fickle kettle]

nu

[celest fox]

oooo

alright

[grim wagon]

its a sandbox

[fickle kettle]

@celest fox do you play R6 ?

[grim wagon]

you dont lose or gain anything

[celest fox]

uhh I have about 2k hours in csgo

[fickle kettle]

oh

[bold kernel]

You lose time

[celest fox]

but that's not this game

[fickle kettle]

CSGO wont help

[worldly frost]

Csgo can definitely help

[bold kernel]

It definitely helps

[fickle kettle]

nani

[bold kernel]

The difference between a player with no shooting games experience and one with 2k hours in csgo is very very obvious

[bronze ice]

It helps in CQB point shooting I noticed

[celest fox]

like, I wanna know the best way to move and clear rooms or clear a corner

[fickle kettle]

oh the spray

@celest fox peeking

[worldly frost]

@bold kernel Am I going to get in trouble for posting a csgo video on beginners chat? xD

[fickle kettle]

and bait move in and out

[grim wagon]

grenades are best way

[bold kernel]

I don't think there's a channel for off topic vids but the mods probably won't mind too much

[worldly frost]

@celest fox sorta same way as cs, sidestepping, q/e peeks which doesn't exist in cs, baiting shots (which I guess sorta would be like jigglepeeking in cs)

[celest fox]

oh also how do you get on the roofs on Customs? I've been shot twice that way

[bold kernel]

As long as you're not posting anime...

[grim wagon]

like i said, as long as its on topic

but tarkov is a lot lot slower than csgo

[celest fox]

I think both times I've been roof sniped by scavs

[bronze ice]

Yeah, I notice many streamers trying to force their CS playstyle into tarkov

[grim wagon]

there are sniper scavs on some roofs you cant get on

[bronze ice]

[celest fox]

ahhh

okay interesting

[fickle kettle]

also welcome to the game ig

[tepid sail]

middle mouse is to examine

[night mural]

Also there are new sniper scav spots on customs that catch a lot of people out

[celest fox]

i wanna hit level 5 today

😡

[night mural]

You can do it

I believe in you.

[bronze ice]

And pray you don't meet Shroud

[grim wagon]

theres a sniper at the construction area, one on a tall tall tower in the middle, one on a roof in the trainyard.

for customs

[celest fox]

do you guys ever get really panicky when camping or just playing very slow? to keep my cool I have to keep it moving

[night mural]

You kidding? My boy @celest fox could smoke shroud with a vpo

[bold kernel]

whats the best thing to heal with after a raid?

[grim wagon]

grizzly

[bold kernel]

ai-2 or?

[celest fox]

I feel like when I'm sat still I'm at such a disadvantage

[tepid sail]

Play a mosin on customs and pop the sniperbois on customs. Even if you die, you'll get enough experience to get past 5 after a couple raids.

[celest fox]

I had a sniper I forget it's name, it started with V

[tepid sail]

VPO?

[celest fox]

anyway, that shit was tight

but then I got rocked by a dude in like full level 3 pubg armor

helmet and everything

[grim wagon]

not sure if the numbers are still 100% accurate but

[bold kernel]

whats the best one when thinking about price?

[tepid sail]

or the Vepr Hunter? Hunter is dope but the VPO is hot garbage cause of the .366, it won't penetrate anything past level 1 basically

[celest fox]

I'm gonna take a nap but when I get up its back to business 😡

[night mural]

The new VPO shoots marshmallow rounds

And I love it.

[grim wagon]

geska is no joke

[fickle kettle]

@celest fox gl gl

[celest fox]

oh, I shot one guy in the back and he died

figured it was good

[night mural]

Gesko over EKO?

[fickle kettle]

ummmm

VPO-215 ?

[night mural]

Yeah

[celest fox]

maybe he was already hurt idk

[fickle kettle]

if you using the VPO-215

[night mural]

The damage is fine, none of the rounds have decent enough pen tbh

[fickle kettle]

dont body shot

[night mural]

And hope you hit flesh pretty much

[celest fox]

gotcha

well it's gone now so

[bold kernel]

whats the best thing to start doing in the hideout as a new player?

[fickle kettle]

rip

[celest fox]

I have about 4 AK variants that need using

[fickle kettle]

@celest fox if you need some tip and or guide just ask here or me o-ob

[grim wagon]

generator then medstation

[celest fox]

will do, thank ya