beginners-assistance

[steady pilot]

You will have to gauge on your own

[radiant holly]

From what I read x39 is better in the beginning

[steady pilot]

It is

Its still strong regardless

[royal wind]

x39 is better value, so better for new players.

[steady pilot]

762x39 PS pens those fast mt facesheilds

[radiant holly]

Damn should of kept my x39 AKS

[royal wind]

The best 5.45 pens better, but it costs 900 roubles per round.

[steady pilot]

762 BP is lit

And underrated

[trim herald]

If you're intending to use full auto you're better off with a 5.45

[steady pilot]

Especially in a veprkm

[trim herald]

If you're not, you may as well get a semi auto rifle

[bold kernel]

BP still good this late on 5.45x39?

[royal wind]

I know SKS is inferior, but I love it.

[mystic tinsel]

i am trying some ak budget builds but man ammo is expensive

[trim herald]

I'd go BS honestly Seby

It's not worth dying because you were cheap on ammo

[steady pilot]

762 BP*

545 BS

[viscid notch]

@mystic tinsel just buy bullets and throw them at the enemy

[steady pilot]

Those are best rounds for the calibers

[bold kernel]

bs has same price as igolnik so i rather buy igolnik than bs

[unique wolf]

See I'm the opposite, I prefer BS

[steady pilot]

Anything under 40 pen is just a meh round

[trim herald]

I'd rate BS over Igolnik though

[radiant holly]

Ive experienced the shitty 5.45 ps

[mystic tinsel]

@viscid notch ok

[drifting mica]

@steady pilot No they arent.

[unique wolf]

2 shots to the torso vs 3

[radiant holly]

I need to get better ammo

[trim herald]

You don't need the extra pen on igolnik so BS's extra flesh damage is nice

[unique wolf]

if I need to Pen L6 armor I'm gonna be bringing something bigger than a 5.45x39

[trim herald]

BS pens it fast enough anyways

[unique wolf]

agreed

[royal wind]

Why though? 5.45 pens level 6 just as good as any other.

[steady pilot]

Igolnik is 2 bullets to kill head and 3 ttk chest. 545 bs pens just as good and is 2 bullets chest and 1 bullet head. Igolnik isnass and only good for lvl 6 armor, which less than 1% of people use

[unique wolf]

Thought it was 1 to the head for igolnik?

[trim herald]

Great for Killa farming though, if you get to the 100 Killa kills Q

[drifting mica]

It is

[steady pilot]

Damage reduction on helmets

Brings it below 35

[tired heart]

What’s the best round for svd

[mystic tinsel]

vepr 136 or ak 74

[tired heart]

7n1?

[steady pilot]

@tired heart 7n1

[trim herald]

7n1 probably havok

[tired heart]

Ok

It can one shot to thorax right?

[drifting mica]

It can yes.

[viscid notch]

anyone down to run some customs?

[steady pilot]

The round say 37 dmg, but a helmet reduces this to 34

[tired heart]

Nice but not level 5-6 armor?

[steady pilot]

It will hurt lvl 5

[unique wolf]

Any helmet or a specific level?

[steady pilot]

40%

Chance to pen first shot

Roughly

[tired heart]

So basically shoot a dude with level 5-6 armor 2 times and they die?

[steady pilot]

Welcome to 7n1 and m80(before nerf)

[trim herald]

If you hit chest yes

Not if you hit stomach or arms

[tired heart]

0-0

[steady pilot]

^

[tired heart]

Nice

And svd has high fire rate

[royal wind]

Yeah, SVD is gross.

[trim herald]

It just has awful recoil though Havok

[tired heart]

So when they notice they got hit they would be hit again

[steady pilot]

Recoil doesnt matter

You're not supposed to spam it

Lol

[tired heart]

It kicks high but it falls back quick

You can go pop ..pop

[unique wolf]

Even letting it fully reset, you can pump out rounds way faster than the bolt actions (obviously) and you don't lose sight of your target if you're using an optic

[steady pilot]

Not having to rechmaber a round and lose your target is easy

[royal wind]

I spam that sucker like crazy in cqb when the need arises.

[steady pilot]

Of course.

[trim herald]

Compared to a bolt action it's way better for sure

[tired heart]

Snb can’t oneshot right?

[spare bluff]

hello

[royal wind]

Not to the chest, no.

[trim herald]

But compared to an M1A I'd take the M1A every day

[steady pilot]

I just take a svd okp to factory for that

[unique wolf]

haha I killed someone doing that yesterday

[steady pilot]

@tired heart only head

[trim herald]

Also the M1A looks cooler

[unique wolf]

had an SVD and MP7

sweaty boy

[waxen forge]

I did the SVD punisher task on factory a couple wipes ago

[steady pilot]

I'm rocking m21 build right now myself

[tired heart]

SVD should get a arch angel stock

Would look so epic

[royal wind]

I want dragunov furniture for the SVD.

[steady pilot]

Archangel is nyet

[trim herald]

The M1A is my favourite gun in the game by a country mile, regardless of chassis it just looks ace

[steady pilot]

Miss me with that shitty polymer

For svd

Archangel

[unique wolf]

I need to try the M1, I just have like 4 more FALs in stash that I have to take out first

[steady pilot]

I love the fal

[tired heart]

Svd should get this stock

[steady pilot]

I love m1a too, but fal is spicy

That's just the SVDM

[tired heart]

The stock svd has rn is ugly

[steady pilot]

Basically the SVDS which is folding stock

Instead of fixed

[tired heart]

Fixed looks better

They need to give svd fixed stock

[unique wolf]

Yeah I found like 3 FALs in one customs run

[steady pilot]

They both look fine

[unique wolf]

I modded them, and then was hesitant to take them out

[wintry cliff]

SKS vs OP-SKS go

[royal wind]

Why?

[tired heart]

Why can’t svd take the cqr forgrip I think it’s called

The cool looking one

[wintry cliff]

I have both, don't know which one to sell

[royal wind]

OP is better in every way. Sell the other.

[steady pilot]

Fal is BAE

[unique wolf]

Yeah I have a few different FAL setups

[steady pilot]

It feels so smooth

To use

[unique wolf]

lost one on reserve yesterday cause I played a long range fight like poop after killing someone's buddy from an obvious spot

[royal wind]

I dig it, basically a DMR.

[steady pilot]

Cause it it's a battle rifle

Like m1a

Ar10

[bold kernel]

Can u not craft anymore 1 salewa for 2 ai-2?

[steady pilot]

Full power cartridge instead of intermediate

[unique wolf]

Yeah I just like it cause if you use the big boy mags and throw a laser on it you can fight closer quarters as well

[royal wind]

Yeah, but a battle rifle isn't necessarily a DMR. Just saying that ones kitted like one.

[steady pilot]

That's correct

My bad

I thought you meant in general

Also if you need more than 20 rd for m80 you're doing something wrong

[eager solstice]

i cant get a rail or whatever mount i need to put a scope or sight on my fal

[steady pilot]

@eager solsticelinked search

[eager solstice]

the whole modding system is so crazy

[steady pilot]

!wiki heavy duty dustcover

Ok wiki

[unique wolf]

it's overwhelming at first, but once you get the hang of how to search things and use the presets

[steady pilot]

!wiki ds arms extreme

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/DS_Arms_Extreme_Duty_dust_cover_for_SA58
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page ds arms extreme for a direct link or !wiki search ds arms extreme for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

DS Arms Extreme Duty dust cover for SA58

DS Arms Extreme Duty dust cover for SA58 (Ext. Duty) is a dust cover in Escape from Tarkov.

[steady pilot]

There

[dense ibex]

how much space does the expeditionary fuel tank take?

[bold kernel]

2x2 iirc

[frosty gyro]

Can someone tell me a good beginner helmet / earphone combo?

[steady pilot]

!wiki expeditionary fuel tank

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Expeditionary_fuel_tank

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Expeditionary fuel tank

The Expeditionary fuel tank (Fuel) is an item in Escape from Tarkov.

[waxen forge]

!wiki ssh

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/SSh-68_helmet_(1968_steel_helmet)
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page ssh for a direct link or !wiki search ssh for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

SSh-68 helmet \(1968 steel helmet\)

SSh-68 helmet (1968 steel helmet) (SSh-68) is a Headwear item in Escape from Tarkov.

[waxen forge]

Penis

[steady pilot]

Grid size2x2

[bold kernel]

Penis hat best hat

[frosty gyro]

looks very cool

[tired heart]

!wiki svd

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/SVDS_7.62x54_Sniper_rifle
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page svd for a direct link or !wiki search svd for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

SVDS 7.62x54 Sniper rifle

The SVDS 7.62x54 Sniper rifle (SVDS) is a Designated marksman rifle in Escape from Tarkov.

[steady pilot]

Imo the mich for 50k is solid

[waxen forge]

Overall helmets are one of those things that may save you from time to time but you will still die wearing one more often than it will save you.

[steady pilot]

Better than paying 1700$ for a fast and lvl 3 faceshoeld that barely protects you

[waxen forge]

6B or SSh are good enough for me most of the time. I rarely every pony up for something more expensive unless I'm just being silly.

[tawdry lion]

i get shot more in the eyes and jaw than in the chest or forehead so best protection is none

[bold kernel]

The mich is a good helmet, level 4 I think

[steady pilot]

!wiki Panama hat

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Miltec_panama_hat
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page Panama hat for a direct link or !wiki search Panama hat for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Miltec panama hat

Miltec panama hat (Panama) is a Headwear item in Escape from Tarkov.

[steady pilot]

Best helmet

[bold kernel]

Yes

[tawdry lion]

!wiki air

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Air_filter_for_gas_mask
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page air for a direct link or !wiki search air for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Air filter for gas mask

Air filter for gas mask (Filter) is an item in Escape from Tarkov.

[tawdry lion]

superior helmet

[bold kernel]

!wiki pumpkin

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Jack-o'-lantern_tactical_pumpkin_helmet
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page pumpkin for a direct link or !wiki search pumpkin for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Jack-o'-lantern tactical pumpkin helmet

[steady pilot]

[bold kernel]

Best helmet

[waxen forge]

Just wear Sequisha's mustache and some ears...good to go.

[neon mirage]

anyone know how to get better FPS on this game I have an rtx 2070 super and a i7 8700k and it kinda runs like garbage

[bold kernel]

Game is not optimized for anything

[unique wolf]

If you're talking about the stutters Nick they seem to be more network related

[bold kernel]

Accept #521628660298678283 @neon mirage

[neon mirage]

my bad

[waxen forge]

There are many theories about best graphics settings. Some say turn up settings to stress GPU into working more...others say differently.

[silver dome]

whycant i put gold chains in sicc cases?

but i can put prokills , usbs , all that shit

[waxen forge]

I'd check out some of those options and then see what works best for you.

[neon mirage]

mmm cause it sets everything to max and in some places it’s at 60 and 70 and others is like 50 and 40 haha

[waxen forge]

i know Klean has a graphics command for his chat that lists his graphics settings. Others have checked that out and had some success.

[steady pilot]

@neon mirage you will have to fiddle with settings. Game is beta and not optimized. Doesnt matter how good your kit is, even with 2 titans sli

[bold kernel]

I’ve heard some people say that turning on vsync in game and disabling it on nvidia control panel works

[steady pilot]

Everyone's pc is different

And responds differently

[normal siren]

I just bought this game like 3 days ago. anyone trying to play?

[neon mirage]

how long has tarkov been out?

[steady pilot]

2 years

No

3

[silver dome]

3

[neon mirage]

Yikes

[steady pilot]

Beta was out for 2 years

[silver dome]

if you guys say thats a while for beta

[bold kernel]

Accept #521628660298678283 and ask in #pvp-lfg @normal siren

[silver dome]

have a loot at Dayz

stand alone

[waxen forge]

@normal siren #521628660298678283 and #news-setup

[silver dome]

look

dayz standalone has been in beta for like 6 years

[neon mirage]

that’s true but god dayZ is so shit

[steady pilot]

Dayz is good now

The modders make it

[silver dome]

no it isnt

[steady pilot]

So good

[silver dome]

lol

you cant win in fights

you trade

[bold kernel]

OFf TopIc REeeeEEEeeEeE

[steady pilot]

The modded servers make the game playable. But yeah

[neon mirage]

oh shit there’s mods in standalone?

[steady pilot]

[neon mirage]

ooo fuk

[steady pilot]

Volkovs fault

[radiant holly]

Do you loose all your money after a wipe ?

[eager solstice]

mods you say?

[steady pilot]

Everything

[bold kernel]

You lose everything

[steady pilot]

@radiant hollyevveryone starts fresh

And it's the best damn 3 weeks of gameplay

[waxen forge]

Wipe resets everything to as if it were the day you bought the game.

[radiant holly]

Damn alright

[steady pilot]

Everyone using shitty ammo and shitty gear

Some fun ass fights

[bold kernel]

Everything is chaotic right after wipe

[prime quail]

When is next wipe ??

[waxen forge]

No official date

[bold kernel]

Not for a while

[unique wolf]

Yeah cause nobody has their traders leveled up and everyone is working on the same quests

[steady pilot]

Some say march

[waxen forge]

Rumor...rumor...rumor..rumor is March

[steady pilot]

I'm guessing april or may

[waxen forge]

Usually when they say a date it turns out to be 2 months later

[steady pilot]

^

[prime quail]

Ok nice to know aproximetly .

[bold kernel]

Gib wipe intensifies

[steady pilot]

Nikita is coming out with seasonal wipe mode

[bold kernel]

[steady pilot]

And I've never been happier

[radiant holly]

I don't want to loose my profits it's not much but im proud

[waxen forge]

Wipes good

[steady pilot]

You'll be fine

[waxen forge]

Hit up #521628660298678283 and #news-setup @radiant holly

So you can see all of Discord

[bold kernel]

gib 0.13

[steady pilot]

Wipe is good cause you can use all your knowledge to start better off @radiant holly

[radiant holly]

That makes sense

[steady pilot]

It's just pixels

The experience is all that matters

[prime quail]

Ye aggree wipes would keep this game fresh, specialy if they would mix up some things after every wipe

[bold kernel]

Wipes usually come with a major update

[radiant holly]

I've only been playing for 2 days but I think I'm addicted

[waxen forge]

Yup that's tarkov

[steady pilot]

We all are

Addicted to the pain

[bold kernel]

Get tarkov’d lol

[steady pilot]

And adrenaline

[waxen forge]

Next thing you know your steam won't have been updated in like 4 months

[glass moon]

other than the Lab Keycard is there any other single-use key?

that leads into big loot?

[steady pilot]

Wait.

That would make us masochists

[radiant holly]

I don't go on steam anymore

[steady pilot]

oh shiiiit

[bold kernel]

I don’t think so @glass moon

[radiant holly]

I just got hooked on this but I'm still addicted to league

[steady pilot]

Mmm let's not get offtopic

[bold kernel]

OfF tOpIc ReEeEeEeEEEee

[steady pilot]

That's a trigger word

[radiant holly]

So early on is it still better to sell the higher end gear I get and just profit?

[waxen forge]

If you don't want to use it then sell it

[bold kernel]

It’s up to you. You could also run it and perhaps make more profit

[waxen forge]

Check flea price compared to Therapist>Skier>mechanic

Most weapons just break into parts and sell to Skier...then the rest to Mechanic

To check flea price (once you get flea) right click on an item and Filter by Item

Sort lowest price to higher

[rich cloak]

@glass moon shturman stash key

[waxen forge]

Find lowest price and then compare that lowest price to trader prices.

[steady pilot]

Ngl

I never use filter by item

[waxen forge]

If trader beats flea by enough for you (including posting tax) then sell to flea.

[rich cloak]

The fuck

[waxen forge]

really?

[radiant holly]

I still need to unlock the flea market I'm only lvl3

[steady pilot]

Nah I just type it in on maket

[waxen forge]

Then it's easy. Therapist>Skier>mechanic

[steady pilot]

I'm weird I guess

[waxen forge]

Old school

[frosty gyro]

god i suck, lol

[bold kernel]

The future is now old man

[waxen forge]

everyone does when they start

[steady pilot]

Linked search, every now and then. I basically know all parts.

[frosty gyro]

I feel like I should actively avoid all PMCs

[steady pilot]

And required search for giving people stuff

[waxen forge]

Brain flex

[pine mantle]

does this discord have a questing lfg group

[steady pilot]

#pvp-lfg

[waxen forge]

#pvp-lfg

[steady pilot]

Slow

[waxen forge]

Slow

[steady pilot]

Boomer

[waxen forge]

I'm old

Crappy work keyboard

[steady pilot]

Wait

I'm on my phone

Guess that's cheating

[waxen forge]

Autocorrect/auto fill

[steady pilot]

Well no

[waxen forge]

watching Dr. Lupo teach tarkov again

[steady pilot]

Discord does the pop up thing

[waxen forge]

Oh yea

[steady pilot]

When you start typing

Tbh

Might message estily and see if he can make a fresh begginer tip guide

[rich cloak]

Off topic

[waxen forge]

I figure he's working on stuff

[rich cloak]

[steady pilot]

.12 came out with a ton of QOL. And I'm not saying there should be one every wipe but like

This one has some good shit beginners should know

[brave sinew]

Guys, what should i unlock first in shelter with welcome 300k roubles ?

[steady pilot]

@rich cloakits begginer related

Fuku

[grand yew]

i'm just trying not to suck, so any advice on a guide would help :p

[steady pilot]

[rich cloak]

@brave sinew nothing

@steady pilot

[steady pilot]

Pestily or deadlyslob begginer guides

[rich cloak]

[steady pilot]

[brave sinew]

No need of water or others ?

[coral kayak]

Possible to get another beginners vc?

[waxen forge]

@grand yew practice. Play offline to practice dealing with scavs. Learn to listen...that you don't have to take a fight just because you can. Learn to use tactics. Camping is bad in COD. Here it is tactical play

[rich cloak]

[rich cloak]

[grand yew]

@waxen forge i like loot. i guess you can't extract items and stuff from offline mode?

[steady pilot]

No

Good practice that's all

[waxen forge]

No...don't lose stuff offline...don't gain stuff

[grand yew]

alright, i'll practice then ^^

[rich cloak]

[grand yew]

any simple tips you can give for a beginner tho? 😉

[rich cloak]

Wartech @rare lark

[waxen forge]

However don't underestimate scavs. If you can get from 1 side of a map to the other 5 or 6 out of 10 times then you are doing ok

Don't sprint

Walk and listen

[trim herald]

Tactec unless you need the AVS rig configuration

[rich cloak]

If you can afford a full one defnetly tactec

[waxen forge]

Learn ammo charts. Good ammo makes a huge difference

[rich cloak]

Stomach armor isn't important

[steady pilot]

You mena

Stomach

[rich cloak]

Yeah

Lol

[steady pilot]

Thorax is important

Lmfao

[rich cloak]

[steady pilot]

Zeroed thorax = death

[rich cloak]

M last 3 brain cells while writing that message

@rare lark if you can afford a max dura tactec it's the best option

[trim herald]

Unless it bleeds to 0 😄

[steady pilot]

Yes yes

[trim herald]

Then you're just having a bad day

[steady pilot]

Rare

A pistol round to chest would kill you even if you armor stopped it then lmao

Breathing on you

[trim herald]

Yeah, honestly a harsh look in your general direction would be enough

[steady pilot]

[bold kernel]

anyone know how I unlock this?

[trim herald]

Do the rest of his Q's

[steady pilot]

!wiki peacekeeping mission

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Peacekeeping_mission

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Peacekeeping mission

Peacekeeping mission is a Quest in Escape from Tarkov.

[trim herald]

I hate that Q btw

It's so cancer

[steady pilot]

It is

[bold kernel]

Wiki doesn't tell me how I unlock it or am I retarded

[steady pilot]

I decked a 3 man twice tap firing a m4 and a flir lmao

[trim herald]

It does, you need lend lease part 2

[steady pilot]

@bold kernellandlease pt 2

[brave sinew]

There is a timer before its possible to use scav on first lunch

[steady pilot]

What

[rich cloak]

Yeah

[trim herald]

Do an offline raid on your PMC

[bold kernel]

aha oke retarded it is

Thanks again amigos!

[wintry cliff]

Is there a combo laser/flashlight? if so what is it called

[steady pilot]

A lot of them

Are

Lol

[rich cloak]

@bold kernel

[wintry cliff]

Oh okay haha, need one for the VSS

[brave sinew]

Thx, the offline option is after pmc choice ?

[steady pilot]

You dont need one for vss

Da hell

[waxen forge]

!wiki x400

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/X400_tactical_flashlight
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page x400 for a direct link or !wiki search x400 for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

X400 tactical flashlight

X400 tactical flashlight (X400) is a tactical combo device in Escape from Tarkov.

[bold kernel]

hahahaha

[rich cloak]

[wintry cliff]

why not @steady pilot

[waxen forge]

Offline...Choose PMc..choose map & time.

[steady pilot]

That thing has no recoil

Its easy

[waxen forge]

Next..no map...next

[wintry cliff]

Fair enough

not used it yet

[waxen forge]

Choose offline and "enable PvE" if you want scavs

[steady pilot]

It's disgusting against players with sp6

[trim herald]

@steady pilot But flashlight is tacticool

[steady pilot]

It's got a lot of unforgiving drop

Past 50-75m

But it hits like a truck with no recoil

[vital rover]

People say to scav run as much as I can as a beginner, but If I got lucky with drops and have like a million rubles, wouldn't it be better to spam pmc pistol runs to get char experience?

only lvl 4 so still need the flea market

[prime ermine]

Think my friend could run eft?
i5 3rd gen 3ghz
Gtx 660
16gb ram

[steady pilot]

@vital rover 1mil is plenty to start rocking decent kit

Just use budget shit

Pistol running is lame

[vital rover]

Alright even better, so screw scav altogether?

[steady pilot]

@prime ermine lol ye could run it. Would he have a good time? No

You can

[swift depot]

I just got a fully decked out gun, but I'm still super low level is it worth it to take it out if I'm gonna have shit armor with it? Or should I just sell it to make a lot of money?

[steady pilot]

I've only scavved for myself 5-7times this wipe. The rest were memes with friends

Money is cake walk

[radiant holly]

How much is a fully decked out As Val worth ?

[steady pilot]

Get vss

Its 30k cheaper for Same gun

[vital rover]

aight

what about sks

[steady pilot]

Oh I have words for sks

[vital rover]

BIG DICK ?

[steady pilot]

||sks trash||

[radiant holly]

What about the mechanics SKS

[broken briar]

IS A CAMPER AXE EXPENSIVE IM IN A RAID

[steady pilot]

I lied

[bold kernel]

Does anyone know how to relocate the game files form one HDD to another or do I have to reinstall?

[radiant holly]

Ha

I've bested you

[languid flare]

Hunter what ammo for beginner?

[steady pilot]

Hes got the kitted one

[bold kernel]

50k @broken briar

[steady pilot]

But still you can buy the kit

Regardless

[radiant holly]

I know he sells it for a military filter

And I have one

[steady pilot]

AHEM

Sks trash.

[vital rover]

What a better alternative for the money?

It seems like the perfect noob buy no?

[trim herald]

@swift depot If you're ok on cash, get some cheap lvl 4 and use it. If you feel like the cash will be better than using the cool gun, sell it

[steady pilot]

I've had a lot of people pm that they loved this build so.

[vital rover]

if im not running pistol and upgrading to a vepr dont i need helm and armor while im at it?

[languid flare]

For a Hunter, what rounds to use for a beginner?

[vital rover]

seems like it will quickly get expensive for a newb still learning

[trim herald]

I'd say you are more likely to need armour pistol running than vepr running

[steady pilot]

Well vepr is barely double the cost of a cheap pistol. But most of the time the gun comes back, it's harder to pocket like a pistol. And it's cheap, more relibale

[vital rover]

lol that's probably a good point @trim herald

[steady pilot]

The vepr would net you way more money

[trim herald]

Vepr has a much larger effective range than most pistols

[steady pilot]

Than youd lose

[vital rover]

advantage of pistol running as a newb is that i can bring 2 new weapons home

[trim herald]

You still can with a VEPR, ditch it in a bush

[vital rover]

if i invest for vepr build i probably want armor too, to protect it

[steady pilot]

@vital rover it's called insurance

[trim herald]

Use someone elses gun

INSURANCE FRAUD BABY

Oh and don't bother with a helm, it's a scam

[steady pilot]

Ditch the gun in a bush and wear the blood soaked kit of your enemies

[vital rover]

haha

[steady pilot]

Dont BUY helemts

Just earn them

In raid

[vital rover]

what's wrong with helmets?

[steady pilot]

Useless money sink

[shell kettle]

I'm a noob and I found some keys for laboratory, should I sell them?

[vital rover]

so only buy armor?

[tribal cove]

I just played woods (pmc) and spawned near east gate. I had to go to UN roadblock and after some pvp and looting I realised that every player was going the opposite way(there was no exfil in the east) and when I arrived at the exfil it was very quiet. Is it possible to spawn on the other side then the rest of pmcs and have different extracts?

[brave sinew]

1st try, 57sec, one hit with pistol against mp5 ✌️love it already

[steady pilot]

@vital rover armor pen rounds and face taps kill younanyway

Armor is more important

[vital rover]

gotcha

[trim herald]

@shell kettle If you are running labs, keep them. Otherwise sell them. You can always rebuy them later

[radiant holly]

For a pistol run m9a3?

[silver dome]

WHATS THE BEST AK

for the punisher quest

on shorline

[tribal cove]

Ak 74m?

[waxen forge]

I like the M

[tribal cove]

105?

[silver dome]

punisher quest

[trim herald]

5-7 if you're going to do a pistol run honestly

[waxen forge]

Just use good ammo

[silver dome]

what ammo

[steady pilot]

Akmn with a pso

[waxen forge]

Depends on the ak

[silver dome]

im going resort

[waxen forge]

What task?

[small perch]

you can turn pretty much any AK into a good AK if you mod it well @silver dome

[trim herald]

BP for 7.62x39

[steady pilot]

^

[silver dome]

someone send a good loadout plz

for ak

[steady pilot]

You need bp going to resort

[silver dome]

m

AKM

[steady pilot]

Any ak works my dude

Just mod to your preference

[silver dome]

noo

[trim herald]

https://imgur.com/ntz6877

[prisma stag]

hey folks. last raid I saw a dead body, looking like player scav. he had dogtag lvl0 with no info. sadly had to go right after end of match so didn't check this more carefully so can say no more yet.
is that a bug?

[waxen forge]

Level 0....strange

[silver dome]

best muzzle device for recoil?

[trim herald]

Click the picture

It's literally all in there

[radiant holly]

Do muzzle brakes actually make guns louder ?

In game I mean

[steady pilot]

@prisma stag probably died to dehydration

[languid flare]

Office Window worst Extract
Extracted me while I was looting the safe, reee

[trim herald]

Could've just disconnected as well

[steady pilot]

[grand elm]

BP ammo is AMAZING, unless it’s 5.45, that stuff is junk.

[steady pilot]

545 junk confirmed

[wintry cliff]

Anyone know what gun this is? https://i.imgur.com/Cd3RqDm.png Sorry for crap quality, it has a drum mag in it

[tribal cove]

Is there any up to date map about pmc spawns on woods?

[prisma stag]

maybe, but not sure. his gear and backpack contained stuff classic for player scav (didn't saw his face thought), so he shouldn't have dogtag at all. but he had with no info (no name and so on) so I'm confused @steady pilot

[steady pilot]

Sa 58

[tribal cove]

Aka fal

[wintry cliff]

Thanks @steady pilot

[steady pilot]

👌

[prisma stag]

and lvl0...
I saw a body once with just "died" or something like this, but he had level, name and other info at least

[wintry cliff]

VSS is better than FAL though right?

[grand elm]

Noooo @steady pilot 7n39 is beast

As/Vss best gun in game

Lol

[trim herald]

There isn't really a BEST gun in the game

It's preference

[wintry cliff]

I love the VSS, wanted to make a FAL as a backup

[prisma stag]

vss has low bullet velocity (drops fast), but it shreds through anything

[trim herald]

VSS is excellent for close quarters but the SA is more versatile

[grand elm]

FAL is cool if you leave it on semi

VSS with REAP is nasty

[steady pilot]

Vss pso

[wintry cliff]

REAP?

[trim herald]

SA with REAPIR is also pretty nuts on say Customs

[waxen forge]

IR scope

[rich cloak]

Thermal scope

[trim herald]

You have so much range with the gun

[steady pilot]

Reap ir thermal

[median badger]

hi guys, is there a channel or something where you can ask ppl if they want to play or nah?

[wintry cliff]

Ah okay

[grand elm]

@median badger #news-setup #tules

[waxen forge]

#pvp-lfg but #521628660298678283 and #news-setup

[grand elm]

#521628660298678283

[waxen forge]

First

[steady pilot]

The vss for 40k and pso for 15k is all you need

[grand elm]

Yes

[steady pilot]

Reap ir is just extra af

[grand elm]

Shits bomb.

[waxen forge]

it's fun though

It

[prisma stag]

btw, how to measure range? I mean, it is quite hard to detect it basing on just body size so is there any advice?

[trim herald]

REAPIR Toz is the only way to play

[grand elm]

You guess. Lol

[waxen forge]

It's fun to take to woods or reserve night and just snipe

[grand elm]

😂

[steady pilot]

I'm a vss monster on interchange

[split vapor]

uh huh ryan

[waxen forge]

VSS is just laser beam

[steady pilot]

Shoot you dont even play go away

[trim herald]

@prisma stag You can use the range finders in some optics, but the range finders are different on all optics which means you need to use the same one every time

[prisma stag]

I like "spider" googles (that one which have 4 lenses) for woods. but they cost as all other gear I take into raid, lol

[steady pilot]

@split vapor what was that meme last night btw

[prisma stag]

@trim herald do you mean that curves like in PSO scopes or something similar to that?

[trim herald]

Yeah

[steady pilot]

That's a ranger finder

You put the person's body in it

And you can guess range

[bold kernel]

Anyone got any tips for headshot 5 pmcs while having a tremor quest?

[prisma stag]

that's sad because I prefer x2 scopes

[trim herald]

@bold kernel Get a broken arm on a map, then go factory

[grand elm]

@bold kernel ya, cross your fingers. Lol

[rich cloak]

@prisma stag so do I

[grand elm]

@can also drink alcohol in raid and HOPE a player comes in front of you

[bold kernel]

kekw

[prisma stag]

@steady pilot yep, I'm russian, I'm aware of our scopes :) but maybe some general advices

[trim herald]

Don't think tremor from alochol or drugs count

[grand elm]

Haven’t even tried to get it done. I’ve had it for weeks

[steady pilot]

Theres a vss version

[trim herald]

At least that's what I've been told

[grand elm]

It literally says in the description

[royal wind]

You can pop a stim that gives you tremor as well.

[grand elm]

Use alcohol or whatever means

[trim herald]

Yeah but it's Tarkov

[steady pilot]

[trim herald]

!wiki cold blooded

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/The_survivalist_path_-_Cold_blooded
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page cold blooded for a direct link or !wiki search cold blooded for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

The survivalist path - Cold blooded

The survivalist path - Cold blooded is a Quest in Escape from Tarkov.

[steady pilot]

Just dehydrate and slowly die like we all are irl

[trim herald]

Wiki says drugs and dehydration, maybe booze works? Not sure

[bold kernel]

Yeah I've had it for a really long time as well. Got 2 so far but those weren't inentional

[trim herald]

Easiest way is getting a broken arm though I think

[tribal cove]

Is there any up to date map about pmc spawns on woods? The one on the wiki in missing some spots

[steady pilot]

Broken leg

Go to woods. Break leg. Camp path.

[royal wind]

Probably the way that lasts the longest and least risk.

[steady pilot]

Ez

[trim herald]

Yeah but then you can't run ;_;

[steady pilot]

You dont need to run

[royal wind]

The drugs and dehydration are either temporary or slowly kill you.

[bold kernel]

Good ideas! thank you

[royal wind]

So a broken leg is probably the best.

[trim herald]

And drugs you have to usually wait like 3 min before the tremor kicks in

[royal wind]

And it only lasts another 3-4 minutes.

[trim herald]

Not even

[royal wind]

180 seconds.

I lied, 120

You right

[trim herald]

Tremor is 60 on Propital 😄

[steady pilot]

I'm positive just breaking a leg on woods (which is easy) and camp a well traversed path. Boom easy

[trim herald]

Yeah, you can definitely do that

[steady pilot]

Better than arm which is hard to do

[trim herald]

Or just break an arm and go to factory

[royal wind]

Wiki needs updating then, says 300s for tremor from propital

[trim herald]

Or breaking an arm ON factory

Nah, it's really easy

Just fight a scav

100% arm fracture guaranteed

[steady pilot]

It needs to fracture

[bold kernel]

kekw

[prisma stag]

go to raid with a friend and ask him to shotgun your arm, why not?

[trim herald]

Especially if the scav has a saiga 9

[steady pilot]

Jumping off a rock is also guranteed

[royal wind]

Yeah, I'd do a leg, since the broken arm can affect your aim and youre trying for headshots.

[steady pilot]

asking a friend to shotgun your arm

That's asking for a bad time

[trim herald]

Tremor affects your aim though

[steady pilot]

So double it with a broken arm?

[prisma stag]

idk, if you have a friend who is happy to shoot you then your life doesn't suck

[rich cloak]

Full shotgunburst to the arm

[frosty plinth]

feels bad, wiggled and made "friends" with a p scav (I had the drop on him)

5min later after I kill/loot a raider guess who kills me

[prisma stag]

should work too

[celest ember]

What kit helps when an area has 0 hp?

[rich cloak]

Timax just fucking don't

@celest ember cms or surv12

[celest ember]

ok thnx

[steady pilot]

Stop scav on scav violence

[frosty plinth]

that's what I was trying to do!

lol

😦

[trim herald]

Timax got betrayed

[prisma stag]

@steady pilot by killing all the scavs?

[rich cloak]

Timax got what was coming for him lol

[steady pilot]

Yes if you kill all of them

They cant commit crimes

[languid flare]

@frosty plinth Trusting a voiceless random is usually just waiting for them to kill you

Its sad, but thats how it is

[steady pilot]

Cause they are 12 yr olds

Who cant get accepted into LFG

[dense patrol]

I've seen Smoke make random friends on stream a couple of times. Always funny.

[languid flare]

I dunno about 'random' if its on stream

But sometimes, sure

[steady pilot]

?

[dense patrol]

Well, he hides his screen when joining games to lower chance of snipers.

[prisma stag]

well, I'd like to do a few raids in a group but can't because I play at nights when my wife sleeps. so I had only one option: trust a random guy or shoot him. can you guess my choice?

[shell verge]

is the christmas tree a limited thing?

[steady pilot]

Divorce

[wintry cliff]

Is the VS VAL and SA-56 the same?

[steady pilot]

No

[shell verge]

AS VAL

[wintry cliff]

Thought so, someone in twitch chat was saying they were

[steady pilot]

First of all they are different caliber

Secondly one is American and one is Russian

[languid flare]

Completly different gun

[steady pilot]

[broken briar]

where can i see my eft screenshots

[steady pilot]

People are so hype about as val for 80k and idk why

When vss is 40k

[trim herald]

SA-58 is an American production

[languid flare]

@steady pilot Austrian? <.<

[steady pilot]

Ok the original design is Austrian

My bad

[trim herald]

U S A

U S A

😄

[waxen forge]

My screen shots go to C>documents>escapefromtarkov

Screenshots

[steady pilot]

I meant "fal"

But yeah sa58 is american

Derp moment

[trim herald]

FAL is Belgian

Though

[prisma stag]

val and vss are almost the same. thy made a close combat sniper rifle for Spetsnaz and realized that it is good but they have no adequate assault rifle, so they adopted ot to be VAL

[steady pilot]

Belgian austrian semantics

[languid flare]

FAL is the FN FAL which is belgian

😛

[broken briar]

ty

[languid flare]

Its like saying the M4 is Mexican

[royal wind]

Yeah, I dont get why the AS Val is more expensive. The difference between the two are almost non existent in game.

[trim herald]

Both are countries, right?

[waxen forge]

Belgian...those are waffles

[steady pilot]

Can I just

[waxen forge]

mmmmm

[steady pilot]

Enjoy my bruh moment

REGARDLESS

Different guns.

[trim herald]

That's true, and there's also not an SA-56

So Twitch got that wrong too

[steady pilot]

You sure he just didnt transpose

[trim herald]

I mean I'd rather blame twitch chat

Because fuck twitch chat

[royal wind]

Hold on, what? What does twitch have to do with SA-58?

I missed the beginning of this.

[steady pilot]

Memes

[trim herald]

Twitch claimed the SA-56/58 was the same gun as the VSS or AS VAL

[steady pilot]

[royal wind]

Wow, ok.

[royal wind]

But for real though, has anybody used the AS Val enough to get a skill up with it?

What skill does it level?

[steady pilot]

Assault

Vss does dmr

[royal wind]

Gonna be doing some VSS runs then.

[steady pilot]

I feel like this doesnt matter considering its 40 recoil

And vss isn40k

Va 80k val

[royal wind]

That part I don't understand, but whatever.

[frosty plinth]

I only use the As Val, even if it's less financially efficient

[royal wind]

I've got 5 VSSs to burn through anyways.

[steady pilot]

@royal wind understand what

[trim herald]

AS VAL MAY be sniper rifle now, as it's what it says in the top right corner now

[royal wind]

Why the Val is more expensive.

[trim herald]

Because it's more rare

[steady pilot]

It's high demand

[idle dune]

they were suppose to be differant as well

[trim herald]

Supply and demand

[steady pilot]

Streamers said, Val good!

[idle dune]

but ended up being pretty much the same

[steady pilot]

Everyone go, val good!

[royal wind]

Same gun, dumb.

[frosty plinth]

wait why did water filters become so crazy cheap, did moonshine tank with drops?

[steady pilot]

Technically, the vss is more accurate

Lmfao

Not like it matters

[royal wind]

Water filters were a twitch drop.

[steady pilot]

You cant shoot it far enough for the accuracy difference to matter

(500m)

[royal wind]

But seems like the price drop has been going on too long for that to be the only reason.

PVS14's are also 90k now where I feel like they were 30k before.

[steady pilot]

The blue ones?

[trim herald]

PVS10's were 30k iirc

[royal wind]

No, the basic shitty monocle ones.

They're 90k now.

[steady pilot]

Ew

[trim herald]

From trader?

[steady pilot]

The 30k skier ones are fire

Pnv

[royal wind]

Not sure about trader, but they're 90k on the FM.

[trim herald]

Yeah, PVN10's

[royal wind]

They may have upped the price on all the NVGs?

[trim herald]

They're still 30k from skier

[royal wind]

Check the PVS14.

[steady pilot]

No hes talking about

The monocle

[royal wind]

I'm at work so I cant.

[steady pilot]

Not dual tube

!wiki night vision

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Gear_components#Night_vision_devices

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Gear components

There are various gear components in Escape from Tarkov.
This page lists all components that can be attached to headwear. There are night vision devices, headsets, visors, additional armor and mounts.

[trim herald]

Oh, was that at 30k?

I thought it was always at around 60k

Maybe I'm mistaken but I can't remember it being cheaper

[royal wind]

Check the PVS14 from Skier.

[steady pilot]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/AN/PVS-14_Night_Vision_Monocular

That thing

Is ass

Btw

[grand elm]

If youre not running the four goggle then the monocle is the one to get

[steady pilot]

Lol whaaat

[grand elm]

or be extra and get the t-7

[steady pilot]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/PNV-10T_Night_Vision

That one

[grand elm]

mad I paid 13.5 for them tho

[steady pilot]

From skier

Is 2nd best

[grand elm]

THose are junkkkk LOL

[steady pilot]

For price

[royal wind]

Monocle is garbo.

[steady pilot]

^

[grand elm]

Meh

[royal wind]

But the price is what we're trying to check on it.

To see what Skier is selling it for right now.

[trim herald]

99k from Skier

[steady pilot]

Monocle is junk

[royal wind]

lol see?

So dumb.

[subtle meteor]

me too

[grand elm]

Cant tell quality from that pic

[royal wind]

They used to be 30k.

[steady pilot]

It's not quality

[grand elm]

I move my head around when im walking. I dont need the top pic lol

[steady pilot]

You can see regardless

[royal wind]

Now they're expensive AND shitty.

[trim herald]

No? The monocle was always way more I'm pretty sure

[royal wind]

Nope, it was always the cheapest option because it had the least FoV.

[trim herald]

Only the 10 was 30k

[steady pilot]

The skier cheap ones give a ton of field of view

Which I consider more important

[verbal spruce]

will be loose tasks/evel/trader levels from wipe?

[steady pilot]

If I want quality I'd get the 4 lens one

[grand elm]

(mouse left mouse right)

[royal wind]

I remember cause I've only bought NVGs one time, and I bought the PVS14's because they were the least expensive.

Now they're 90k.

[steady pilot]

Best colorblind nods

[forest steppe]

what do the offline options mean?

i know what enable pve and enable bosses means, but what does scav war mean and curse and tagged?

[steady pilot]

!wiki offline

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Health
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page offline for a direct link or !wiki search offline for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Health

Health is a Physical skill in Escape from Tarkov.

[steady pilot]

[forest steppe]

oh ty, ill check that out

[royal wind]

Cursed and tagged means scavs will know where you are and come straight for you.

[forest steppe]

oh it took me to health?

[errant moth]

what do i need to do to get loot fast

[steady pilot]

Yep wiki retarded

I just looked

Nothing explaining it

[errant moth]

i just started but idk the concept of this game

[forest steppe]

so what is scav war

[steady pilot]

They fight eachother

It's a fucking mess on factory horde mode

[forest steppe]

from the get go?

[steady pilot]

Literally

Scav on scav violence

[forest steppe]

huh interesting

[royal wind]

I think it turns it into a FFA.

[languid flare]

But... why

[forest steppe]

ty

[unique wolf]

Comedy I assume

[steady pilot]

And you never make it in time to shoot them!

You just hear gun battles

And see dead bodies

[unique wolf]

Don’t you wanna see who is the scav alpha

[forest steppe]

lol

[languid flare]

Wish you could skip the PvP part of this game
XD
Just do raids on SCAVs but not being able to activate PvP anymore

[barren mesa]

what is the heaviest item(s) i can place in my gamma container?

[trim herald]

They'll make a single player game later, BSG that is

[barren mesa]

I'd like to level up strength and a tank battery doesn't fit ;[

[trim herald]

For str? Go in geared and carry buckshot in your bag

[steady pilot]

Nikita said he dkesnt want single player

[bold kernel]

Is there an efficient way to convert dollars to rubles?

[steady pilot]

Its like

Not the same

[bold kernel]

Somehow ended up with 30k dollars

[trim herald]

Buy items from PK, sell on Flea

[steady pilot]

He might do it but there isnt a bunch of support for it

[royal wind]

Yeah, you used to be able to sell dollars on flea, but now you gotta buy items to convert.

[trim herald]

He'll make another game that's single player

He's already said that

[errant moth]

i need friends on here that play mornings and late at night eastern

[languid flare]

@steady pilot I know it wont be the same, but as long as you keep em seperate, who would care?

[trim herald]

But Tarkov won't be single player

[steady pilot]

Idk why you dont want the pvp aspect

That's what makes it so tactical and brutal

[royal wind]

@errant moth Accept the #521628660298678283 and #news-setup then use the #pvp-lfg channel.

[steady pilot]

And variable

[languid flare]

Cuz its always players that kill me 😦

[steady pilot]

That's how it is for everyone

[errant moth]

@royal wind oh ok thanks!

[languid flare]

Like seriously, still no player kill

[steady pilot]

You get better

[barren mesa]

i mean there is a single player variant of the game out already

[steady pilot]

Learn from mistakes

[bold kernel]

do people do anything in this game besides camp in a dark corner?

[barren mesa]

though im not sure im allowedto talk about it

[steady pilot]

Just like darksouls

[long spear]

@bold kernel yes, campers are quite rare actually

[languid flare]

Yeah, but in Dark Souls you can 'turn off' invasions at least 😛

[long spear]

however a lot of new people will just assume they are killed by campers

[royal wind]

I run into squads wrecking crews way more than campers.

[steady pilot]

It wouldnt work for this game

Youd get bored after 1 day

Everyone knows where scav spawns are

[radiant holly]

It's also about choosing your moment

[normal hound]

why when i ads with mosin the scope bearly moves?

[steady pilot]

I doubt it gets that more dynamic

@normal houndcause its 5 ergo

[barren mesa]

@languid flare go google justemutarkov and find their discord, it's an offline version of tarkov with only single player.

[trim herald]

Ergo on the weapon influences ADS time

[normal hound]

?

[barren mesa]

i use it to test guns

[trim herald]

Unless you have a canted optic

[steady pilot]

The lower your ergo, the longer it takes to ADS

You need like 50 to feel good on ads time

[normal hound]

no i mean in the ADS the sensitivity is like 20

[trim herald]

Unless canted optic 😄

Oh

[royal wind]

Yeah, that's a thing. It sucks.

[steady pilot]

Lmao

The pu scope is 1:1 sensitivity with everything

Your settings is literally low af

[normal hound]

i play on 500 sens

[steady pilot]

My mouse is at 1500 DPI

[languid flare]

@barren mesa Interesting, thanks

[steady pilot]

And my ads is like 1.20

[royal wind]

What's really annoying is when you have a variable scope. The first step is super slow, the second step is normal speed.

[trim herald]

^

[normal hound]

demdam
#6130 can u kick this ass from our chat? customs 1

[steady pilot]

Vudu and tac30 got buffed

[normal hound]

he left

[steady pilot]

On "scan" speed

They used to be hooorribble

But I love the hendosldt but I have to use my DPI on the fly to make it work

[rich cloak]

Vudu

[steady pilot]

[radiant holly]

M9a3 for a pistol run?

[royal wind]

Always.

[rich cloak]

Or five seven

[fierce cosmos]

All of the language rections inside the #news-setup channel are all gone

[steady pilot]

Or veprkm for pistol run

[sacred hatch]

Hi, how can I get EU & French Discord ranks?

[normal hound]

how do i buy in the flee market?

[steady pilot]

#news-setup

[languid flare]

is broken

[steady pilot]

@normal houndyou search your item and hit buy

[normal hound]

i dont see buy

[steady pilot]

Wdyn

"Purchase "?

[sacred hatch]

@steady pilot there is just a photo in #news-setup but I can't interract with it

[steady pilot]

Try restarting discord, works for me when I do

Otherwise message mod mail

[sacred hatch]

Ok

[steady pilot]

@normal hound ignore the barter trades

Go to the cog wheel and turn them off. Just completely ignore them

They are not worth or a scam

[wintry cliff]

What is this for? https://i.imgur.com/fPZRKRQ.png

[normal hound]

oh ok i was looking at trades

[steady pilot]

!wiki door key pumping station

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Door_key
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page door key pumping station for a direct link or !wiki search door key pumping station for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Door key

Door key (Key) is a Key in Escape from Tarkov.

[steady pilot]

Have at it

@wintry cliff

[wintry cliff]

oo nice, thanks for showing the command

[steady pilot]

Just use #wiki-chat if it's not related here

Btw

[normal hound]

they need to add this breaching stick to the game

[trim herald]

5-7 or VEPR 136 for pistol runs

[steady pilot]

Whaat

That thing is like 35k

I mean it works tho

[trim herald]

$280

[steady pilot]

Just not budget if you bad

[trim herald]

Sure, but if you MUST do a pistol run

[steady pilot]

I doubt he has the trader level

[trim herald]

Besides, you can put on the John Wick music in the background

[steady pilot]

You need a trader level to get that price

Have to rely on market

[rich cloak]

@normal hound but for what

[trim herald]

What PK level is it? 2?

!wiki five-seven

[steady pilot]

Wiki pls

[trim herald]

wtf wiki

[lofty shuttle]

i cannot add a friend that lives in France is there any way around this

[steady pilot]

!wiki fiv-seven

[trim herald]

!wiki Five-seveN

[steady pilot]

!wiki 5-7