beginners-assistance

[stone surge]

ammo charts is all we got really

[thorny raptor]

ok sick

[stone surge]

the guy behind them does thorough research

[thorny raptor]

ive noticed lol

[sonic lake]

fuck dude

[stone surge]

enough so that everyone in EFT community uses it

[sonic lake]

i wish i wasnt a hoarder

wiki folks have it updated all the time

even before mr NFAM

btw

[stone surge]

@sonic lake my 2 scav boxes are completely full and items are not ordered

[sonic lake]

shoutout to orb

same

[stone surge]

so everytime i'm like "i wanna clean my scav box and sort it out"

[thorny raptor]

give me your shit spyder☺️

[stone surge]

i open the scav box

[sonic lake]

and i have 3 icases

and 2 wcases

[stone surge]

and i am like fuck this shit

im out

[sonic lake]

and i still have shit lying around

i recently sold like 30 relays

cause i didnt know they were 25k lul

and ive just been ignoring them on my reserve runs

[stone surge]

@thorny raptor Whenever you look at the ammo chart, generally you want a good mixture between flesh damage and penetration. if you're going in relatively sweaty you ofc wanna run ammo that pierces tier 5

[fallen crane]

how many junkboxes you got?

[stone surge]

as tier 5 is pretty common nowadays

and tier 4 is REALLY common as almost all armor got buffed to it

[thorny raptor]

yes bcuz its later in the wipe

[wild maple]

anyone wanna queue one up? Im new, got lots of questions

[sonic lake]

T4 is pretty much bare minimum i run now

except for pistol runs

[stone surge]

T4 is my budget yea

6b3tm budget gang

[sonic lake]

where T2 and T3 are super light

i personally use the 6b23-2

[past lodge]

I am just starting to do T4 as standard. Did Chemical part 4 and run the Khaki Rig.

[stone surge]

i really hate ceramic

[fallen crane]

go to #news-setup and #521628660298678283 to get PMC rank @wild maple and you can see lfg channels

[stone surge]

i can't stand armor that only has 1 or 2 uses

especially if you get it back from insurance

it's basically worthless

and it's more expensive than 6b3tm aswell

the tier 4 ones

[sonic lake]

eh

i dont mind

[past lodge]

Anyone have tips on how to kill people at Factory office? I am having tough times.

[sonic lake]

i get em back

and i resell them

[stone surge]

ye but it's basically more expensive than 6b3tm

[sonic lake]

is it for jaeger?

[stone surge]

which is 47k for tier 4+ rig

[past lodge]

Yeah, kill PMCs in the office area.

[sonic lake]

bathrooms counts

stairs counts

[past lodge]

Bathrooms count? Stairs count?!

[sonic lake]

yes

[past lodge]

MFers.

[sonic lake]

get a faceshield

thicc armor

[stone surge]

@past lodge Trust me

[sonic lake]

and high rof gun

shoot everyone

lul

[stone surge]

Run raiga and flachettes and rush office/lockers

flachettes shit ton altyn+gen4 people

and you wanna kill people CQB anyways in offices

[sonic lake]

i like the mp7

[fallen crane]

are flechettes like slugs or do they spread like buck?

[stone surge]

it costs not even more than 30k for a saiga+flachettes

[sonic lake]

they spread

[stone surge]

and it SHREDS armor

they spread

[sonic lake]

but i think ap20s still do more flesh

[stone surge]

but they basically oneshot good armor

[past lodge]

Okay. I will try that, I was about to run in with that black T4 helmet Skier gets you and the Khaki Rig.

[stone surge]

and ppl often run expensive gear in factory

so you can get out really wealthy if you take one down

while risking nothing

[sonic lake]

are you high veyx

all i see are hatchlings :(((

[stone surge]

what

hatchlings in factory

for what purpose lol

[past lodge]

Where do I get these Flechettes?

[stone surge]

juicy cigg loot?

[sonic lake]

no clue

but everyones poor

[stone surge]

@past lodge flea market, they cost nothing

[sonic lake]

when i go thicc in factory

[past lodge]

They rush office and the safe? I once saw three hatchlings there.

[stone surge]

@sonic lake https://i.imgur.com/MySwJ1p.jpg

was a run i did a few days ago

[sonic lake]

when i go poor in factory all i get are juicy ones

[stone surge]

i dont run it that often

but it works.

altyn got absolutely shit on too

[sonic lake]

altyns are nothing

[stone surge]

as you can see it on the screen xd

[sonic lake]

ive downed altyns with a toz

[stone surge]

and gen4 is 0/68

after 2 shots

you hipfire aswell so yea

[sonic lake]

thats what i dont like about flechettes

[stone surge]

it's not hard lol

[sonic lake]

they have to ruin armor to get the job done

i want usable armor :((

[stone surge]

yea but how else do you wanna take down altyn+gen4

shoot at legs? xd

[sonic lake]

shoot with high pen boolet

[fallen crane]

is a laser worth it when hip firing with shotty?

[sonic lake]

go through armor but not destroy

yes

get the blue ones

[stone surge]

that's hard with gen4

[sonic lake]

they nice and bright

[stone surge]

that protects everything

[sonic lake]

i have BS and 995 access

lul

[past lodge]

So should I bring good armor?

[stone surge]

@fallen crane yes

laser is always worth it

[sonic lake]

at least t4

[stone surge]

on automatic guns

[sonic lake]

ive not had any issues with th 6b3tm

[stone surge]

even on semi's I run laser, but that's because I'm rich i guess

[sonic lake]

i get a laser on everything

[stone surge]

but on automatic guns laser is gucci

[sonic lake]

mostly flashlights

i like flashlights

[stone surge]

the moment you go in offline

and you check out the difference between laser and no laser on automatic guns

you'll notice how major it is

[fallen crane]

does it benefit ads or just hip fire?

[stone surge]

hipfire only

[sonic lake]

i can hipfire a 70 recoil AKM pretty confidently at that range

[past lodge]

Okay. Time for a ZSH1 and a 6B3TM with a Siaga run

[stone surge]

which is what 80% of the players do that run m4 in cqb

[fallen crane]

yeah

[stone surge]

@past lodge doesnt sound bad

6b3tm for sure is such a good budget choice for tier 4

[glossy yew]

hey guys just got the game would appeicate some help 18+ please

[sage swallow]

What exactly should I put in my gamma container?

[stone surge]

anything of value

in general you value an item by how much it's worth PER slot

[sage swallow]

is there some sort of "meta" to it?

[stone surge]

so you ofc rather have 2 items worth 20k that are 1 slot each

than an item that's 35k

for 2 slots

not really, I guess it's game knowledge

[sonic lake]

you keep

heals

ammo

[stone surge]

eventually you know all items in the game and how much they're worth

[sonic lake]

keytool/docs/sicc

[open basin]

this is mine

[stone surge]

looks good

[sonic lake]

pretty much

i usually keep Ibuprofen in there, big boi splint, cms, keytool and ammo

[stone surge]

big boi splint is 8k

so i replace it fast

[sonic lake]

^

[stone surge]

whenever i see better stuff

[open basin]

yeah

split gets replaced fast

so does ammo depending on what loot i get

[sonic lake]

my ibu is low dura rn

[open basin]

only the docs case is untouchable in my gamma

[sonic lake]

so its going after my splint

im poor pleb so i have a beta

[open basin]

i upgraded to eod yesterday 😎

[stone surge]

after using the surv12

i can't go back to CMS anymore

[open basin]

beta takes so long to get

[stone surge]

CMS just ruins limbs and makes me feel weak

[open basin]

too long

[stone surge]

it's 4sec longer

not that bad

[fallen crane]

what does surv12 do? full heal them too?

[sonic lake]

lmao

beta was ez

[stone surge]

almost

[sonic lake]

i bought it ASAP

[stone surge]

it's like 80-90% restored

[open basin]

it only takes 1hp off

[sonic lake]

from someone

[stone surge]

instead of 40-50%^

[open basin]

you cant do that now

[sonic lake]

alpha is useless

[fallen crane]

thats ez

[sonic lake]

yeah

that means i gotta upgrade

lmfao

[open basin]

and the beta barter is 3mill

they should put beta at peacekeeper 2

since you can get punisher pt 1 at lvl 21

[sonic lake]

it was like 5th day of wipe and someone already had PK4

so i asked him to get it for me

[fallen crane]

punisher pt one is at like level 15

you can get part 6 at level 22

[sonic lake]

usually my setup, depending on the gun i'd replace ammo with the splint otherwise i carry splint on rig or something

[open basin]

punisher pt 1 is at lvl 17

so beta should be at peacekeeper lvl 2

ezpz

nikita pay me

[sonic lake]

beta trade shouldnt be that hard

lmfao

its literally easier to get the epsilon

[open basin]

have you seen the updated beta trade?

[fallen crane]

epsilon is a bitch, you gotta play shoreline

[sonic lake]

dont forget the beta now costs an epsilon

[open basin]

[sonic lake]

now that

[stone surge]

thats not bad

[sonic lake]

you cant trade anymore

they should fuckin put it back to being a buy item

its retarded

it screws people over

[open basin]

not bad for an item that should cost at most 1mill roubles? lmao

[fallen crane]

what level do you need to get LL4 peacekeeper?

[stone surge]

I agree that people should get access to beta faster

[open basin]

lvl 28

[stone surge]

alpha is just a handicap

[sonic lake]

theyve screwed standard twice recently

[fallen crane]

yikes

[sonic lake]

shitty christmas gift, and then shitty beta trade

[open basin]

i wouldnt mind gamma being a massive pay for advantage

if the other secure containers werent a massive bitch to get

[fallen crane]

you could easily go for epsilon before you get ll4 peacekeeper

[sonic lake]

you cant even trade epsilons now

bruh

[open basin]

yeah

so ur basically stuck with alpha for over half your play time on a wipe

[sonic lake]

thank god wipe is march

[open basin]

also i love that they gave item case to eod

even though they need it the least

[sonic lake]

so i have some time to put money aside on the budget for EOD lmao

they fucked standard over so bad

[fallen crane]

who was talking about saiga flechette factory runs before?

[sonic lake]

beta trading was something i did last patch to help out newbies

[stone surge]

<

[proper ginkgo]

how much is gpu on flea market

[sonic lake]

alpha is absolute dogshit useless

270k

about usually

[open basin]

270k

to 290k

[proper ginkgo]

sweeeeet ty just exfilled with one thats like 20% of my stash lol

[fallen crane]

what saiga mag size is best? the 10-rounders are 3 high which is awkward

[sonic lake]

nice

[open basin]

i wouldnt sell it less than 270k imo

[sonic lake]

10 roounders

[stone surge]

@fallen crane true but i still get the 10 mags, I buy the alpha rig

[open basin]

someones gonna buy it eventually lmao

[sonic lake]

^

[stone surge]

you could go for a lower mag size I guess, but i never do it

[fallen crane]

could always do 10rn in gun and spare 5ers

[sonic lake]

i wouldnt use a saiga

[stone surge]

or you get 1 10 mag and just keep in mind that you drop it when u reload and u gotta pick it up

[sonic lake]

unless you could take 10 rounders

otherwise

mp153

[stone surge]

flachettes work on other shotguns too

but i always run saiga, but thats me

[frozen bone]

any tips for making money? need that stash upgrade asap

[sonic lake]

sell things

[stone surge]

@frozen bone you want stash upgrade for stash space or for hideout upgrade?

[sonic lake]

stop hoarding then you wont need that stash upgrade

[stone surge]

becasue if the first, you're better off buying itemcases

and scav junkbox

[frozen bone]

i just want more space

[stone surge]

then get scav junkbox/itemcases

atleast first

[sonic lake]

stop hoarding then you wont need that stash upgrade

take that as a standard player for all patches

[frozen bone]

not really even hoarding, i can't even hold enough items for barters properly

[sonic lake]

then get a junky boi

[stone surge]

scav junkbox my dude

[fallen crane]

scav junkbox

has like 196 slots in it

[frozen bone]

😮

[sonic lake]

i have 2 that are full im a hoarder now that im rich 😬

i also keep glasses and santa accessories i find on scavs

[stone surge]

i kidna wanna just sell every barter item i have to therapist

and start over

and sort my scav junkboxes

Lol

[sonic lake]

proceeds to drop GPU for santa beard

[frozen bone]

is loot anything you can't wear?

[stone surge]

loot is basically stuff you can't use or wear yes

[bold kernel]

lol im kinda new can anyone help me out?

[sonic lake]

do #521628660298678283 and #news-setup pls

[bold kernel]

okey

[sonic lake]

then come back

we gotcha bud

[azure badge]

is there a weapons tier list? i've collected a ton of different things and i'm running out of inventory space

want to know which guns i should just get rid of

[stone surge]

No

weapons is preference

but there is a ammo "tier" list

weapons don't dictate damage so yea

[azure badge]

okay got it

so i should prob look at each and just kinda sell them based on their stats

cause i don't really plan on messing around right now with like

min maxing customization on these

[stone surge]

ehh

it really depends what you wanna use and what budget you have

[sonic lake]

keep what you can afford to and will use

[stone surge]

i mean, m4a1 modded is like CQB king, but it will cost you a lot of money

a gun I would gt used to and experiment modding out and stuff

is AK-74M and AK-74N

try those, mod them as you like

they're very cheap and versatile

[azure badge]

okay cool cause the 74m was on the chopping block

right now i've been mesing around with like

[stone surge]

Avoid guns that have a base price of 50k+

[azure badge]

the mpx/mosin and those hunter guns

[stone surge]

like m4

because they're only worth their price if you mod them

stock m4 is worse than a slightly modded ak-74m

[azure badge]

okay cool good to know

i had an m4 for like 3 runs and it was awesome

[sonic lake]

POG trade

[azure badge]

so maybe when i get a bit more cashola i'll mess with that again

[stone surge]

i mean m4 still does same damage, but a 80 recoil m4 doesn't justify the price

compared to a ~60ish recoil ak-74m you could have for the same price.

[sonic lake]

veyx

i just went through my scavboxes

did required search for shit

got me some gold chains and m4 60s out of it

[stark moat]

I got stuck behind some stuff, any way to get out? I thought I saw something somewhere about a command to teleport a couple feet when this happens but I can't find it now.

[stone surge]

i've never gotten fully stuck before apart from being locked in the red keycard room lol

I think.. you're done

try to jump and everything to get out

otherwise just die and you get ur stuff back if you insured it

[stark moat]

meh, its just a scav run

[stone surge]

rip

[frozen bone]

what's the best way to level? kill some scavs and extract?

[stone surge]

that works and quests

[fallen crane]

why is my queue time so long during peak hours...

[stone surge]

eventually you get into the mechanic gunsmith quests

you mod a gun and give it to him and it awards a large amount of XP

[frozen bone]

yeah those seem easy, just gotta buy weapons right?

[stone surge]

ye and mods

put them on the weap and ur done

and you get 20k XP eventually

per quest

and in general the items you get as reward pay for the mods/weapon

[sonic lake]

it does get expensive though

right now im on the RSASS one

ill shell out money for an RSASS to use it

[azure badge]

do you have a good ak74m preset you can link me to?

[sonic lake]

but im waiting to find one for this quest

[stone surge]

depends on your budget

[sonic lake]

self

what level are you?

[azure badge]

let's say mid range

11

[fallen crane]

most of the gunsmith quests profit on $ from what i've done so far

[sonic lake]

dont use the 74

[stone surge]

give me a sec i'll buy an ak-74m and try something.

[sonic lake]

dont use any 5.45 gun

dont do it

you have access to shit ammo

itll get you killed

[stone surge]

what you on about

ak-74m is fine lol

[sonic lake]

yes

but early level all you get is shit ammo that tickles people

[stone surge]

he can put in BP or BT

and he'll be fine

[sonic lake]

he doesnt have access to that tho

[frozen bone]

how "hard" is it to do prapor for the epsilon? i'm still on the second one

[sonic lake]

get has T

[stone surge]

flea

[sonic lake]

and PS

its not hard

hardest one is last one

just use a Vepr 136

for budget

[stone surge]

@azure badge what lvl are you and what lvl are your traders?

[sonic lake]

ammo is cheaper

hes 11

[azure badge]

all my traders are level 1 right now

[sonic lake]

listen to less

[stone surge]

then I would just buy a stock vepr KM and roll with 7.62 PS ammo

till you have ur traders like tier 2 atleast

[acoustic timber]

why is bt ammo so good

[stone surge]

at lvl 1 traders don't bother modding really

Bt is not good

[sonic lake]

BT is okay

[stone surge]

BT is OK

[sonic lake]

have you tried BS?

lul

[fallen crane]

@frozen bone

[acoustic timber]

YEAH BUT THATS EXPENSIVE

[steady pilot]

[acoustic timber]

1k FOR 2 bullets

I could afford them tho.

[stone surge]

PepeLaugh m995

[acoustic timber]

But i would rather use

bt if im going on budget runs

[azure badge]

that's interesting @open basin

[acoustic timber]

the vpo 215 is the best budget weapon

[azure badge]

i have a dope sks in my inventory that i've been holding on to, but i may as well get rid of that

[sonic lake]

funny meme

[acoustic timber]

one tapped a gear dude

[stone surge]

@azure badge if you're on a budget, I would try stock vepr KM with maybe a pk-06 and 7.62 PS ammo

[acoustic timber]

nerf geshka rounds

[sonic lake]

no

[stone surge]

doesn't cost anything while still being deadly

[sonic lake]

no pk06

[acoustic timber]

cobra sight

is better

for budget

[sonic lake]

TT01 is a good upgrade from normal sights

then find a compact collimator in raid

[stone surge]

I can't stand ironsights

[steady pilot]

@azure badge das my chart and gun i made

[sonic lake]

slap it on

[stone surge]

it's up to him

ironsights absolutely make me wanna puke

[sonic lake]

the TT01 irons are clean

[stone surge]

I find them shit

so yea pk-06 or tt01

up to you

[azure badge]

@steady pilot you da bes

i'll prob just mess with both of them tbh

[stone surge]

He's trying to promote vepr KM

[sonic lake]

TT01 and wait to find a p1x or weaver, something in raid then slap it on

[azure badge]

kinda wanna just unlock the gun range so i can test all these sights out too

[stone surge]

@azure badge The biggest thing for you now is to remember that 7.62 has PS ammo which is "decent" for budget

[sonic lake]

TT01 irons

[stone surge]

while 5.45 is really good, but doesn't have effective "budget" ammo

[azure badge]

okay got it

i like those irons

[stone surge]

@azure badge you could also try Vepr Hunter and put M80 ammo in it

it's super cheap and deadly

[azure badge]

so maybe chill on these 545 guns for now

[stone surge]

and you do not need to mod it (in fact you can't)

[azure badge]

yeah i was messing around with that and it was awesome

[sonic lake]

best budget gun

[acoustic timber]

i dont care what anyone says

hatchet running is op

[stone surge]

Just try to get used to semi's at first, because they do not burn through your ammo

[sonic lake]

i keep the wood shit because less likely to take wooden gun

[acoustic timber]

god damn i should do it more often

[sonic lake]

kuzeno

take a toz

or pm

youll live if you see a scav

lul

[azure badge]

okay i'm gonna build one now and see how it goes

[acoustic timber]

yeah i forgot

to bring one

[stone surge]

@sonic lake experienced players take off mods and don't bring weapons anyway so it doesn't bother me whenever i see wood.

[sonic lake]

turns into this after you find some stuff in raid

[stone surge]

and people that do wanna bring weapons are usually scavs and they dont care if it's polymer or wood

[sonic lake]

lmao who doesnt take a whole gun

i take the whole gun if i have space

i dont know anyone that doesnt take the whole gun if they have space

[stone surge]

only if i have a 2nd slot

[acoustic timber]

weaver sight

CRINGE

[stone surge]

but never in my backpack

it's 99% of the time not worth it

[sonic lake]

welp

[acoustic timber]

the weaver sight is so bad i hate it

[sonic lake]

yeah i know to drop it if i find something more worth

but if i dont i still have a gun

who doesnt take a WCase everywhere

[brazen owl]

why weaver sight bad?

@acoustic timber

[sonic lake]

thicc dot

idk

i think its oaky

theres worse sights

[acoustic timber]

its just the recticle

reticle

looks disgusting

for me

and it takes too much of the screen

i like pk-06 better

[stone surge]

Pk-06

GANG

[acoustic timber]

YOOO

[sonic lake]

you should look at the last reticle of the MRS

LUL

that thing is disgusting

[stone surge]

pk-06 is simple but effective, just the ideal red dot

[sonic lake]

lmao wtf is this

[acoustic timber]

im gonna sell all my shorline keys lmao

Good bye shorline keys.

[sonic lake]

i hope you didnt buy those

[acoustic timber]

honestly tho should i keep all of these or sell em

[stone surge]

Sell them

[acoustic timber]

alirhgt

[sonic lake]

keep

[stone surge]

Imo gen4s aren't even that great

they're also half broken

[sonic lake]

ok buddy

[azure badge]

wild how much the keytool is

[acoustic timber]

dude u dont know how many geared players i killed with a god damn vpo 215

all those gen 4

vpo 215

[stone surge]

@sonic lake Why gen4 if you can have tactec

which is half the price and has better repairs

and a rig included

[acoustic timber]

throax tho

: \

[sonic lake]

half price?

you sure

[stone surge]

doesn't matter

eys

tactecs go for 80

very foten

often*

[sonic lake]

ARE YOU SURE

where are you getting these

[stone surge]

flea market?

ppl sell them for less than 100 so often

I only run tactecs so i know Lol/

[sonic lake]

as a tactec and gen4 user

?

i get HMKs for the same price

[vital patrol]

click the price button @sonic lake

[sonic lake]

it is

bruh

[vital patrol]

you probably have it sorted highest to lowest

[sonic lake]

youre clowning

[steady pilot]

i buy 40+ durablity tactecs for 7-80k and repair for 20k

[proper ginkgo]

Is this map outdated?

[acoustic timber]

SHOULD I DO IT GUYS

[mighty jasper]

Is there a guide that explains movement, not in combat?

[vital patrol]

was just a suggestion

chill

[sonic lake]

youre high kuzeno

[mighty jasper]

Just in general getting from point a to point B

[sonic lake]

run?

walk when tired?

[mighty jasper]

Yeah, but like

[acoustic timber]

I DONT EVEN RU SHORLINE I JUST DO IT FOR LEDXS AND I DONT EVEN GET ANY

[mighty jasper]

When do I run.

[proper ginkgo]

Always run?

[mighty jasper]

Effton of noise thoufh

[sonic lake]

yes

[proper ginkgo]

Seriously

[sonic lake]

but when youre slow

easy target

[acoustic timber]

whats good armor

[proper ginkgo]

You should always run?

[acoustic timber]

zabralo?

alright.

[sonic lake]

i mean

theres times to run and not run

getting to point A

[proper ginkgo]

But generally speaking ,you run?

[mighty jasper]

In factory I almost always walk

[sonic lake]

yes

[proper ginkgo]

dafuq

[mighty jasper]

Oddly enough.

[sonic lake]

walking in factory

[proper ginkgo]

Ok

[sonic lake]

is like waiting to get shot

[mighty jasper]

Seems to work way better

[sonic lake]

i do

[proper ginkgo]

Run inside oli?

[sonic lake]

well

sometimes

[mighty jasper]

^

[sonic lake]

depends on situation

[proper ginkgo]

How so

[sonic lake]

im in oli to loot

i wont run

[mighty jasper]

No situation

[proper ginkgo]

okok

[sonic lake]

if im going through oli and dont hear anyone in there

[mighty jasper]

Just 0 sound 0 enemies nearby as far as you know

[sonic lake]

i run

[mighty jasper]

Do you run?

[sonic lake]

yes

[mighty jasper]

Really?

[ruby hull]

sound cues are the biggest indicator to ppl to slow down and get ready to kill you

[sonic lake]

it works for me

[ruby hull]

you don't want to run if you suspect dudes are close

[sonic lake]

^

high traffic areas i slow down

[acoustic timber]

u know how to get rid of sound cues

[proper ginkgo]

But if you're running so much how will you hear them

[mighty jasper]

Would you run near dorms?

[sonic lake]

when i want to get somewhere i run

[acoustic timber]

dont play with sound to get rid of sound cues

: |

[sonic lake]

i run if im going past dorms

if i go to dorms i slow down

[ruby hull]

i am running past dorms like a weeping child

scary place

[mighty jasper]

Through all the bushes?

[acoustic timber]

dude a bush noise around dorms can trigger a whole fire team

[sonic lake]

yes

[acoustic timber]

on 3rd floor

[sonic lake]

lmfao

welp

[mighty jasper]

Yeah

[sonic lake]

ill be long gone

[mighty jasper]

Seriously

[sonic lake]

because im running

[mighty jasper]

Weird.

[sonic lake]

they can chase me if they want

[proper ginkgo]

How do you know if people are near you if you are running

You wont hear them

[sonic lake]

knowing high traffic areas

[acoustic timber]

u would

[mighty jasper]

Dude we're lowbies we get oneshot by everything

[acoustic timber]

i mean i would

[ruby hull]

Got to get a feel for the map

[sonic lake]

then RUN

[proper ginkgo]

ok

[sonic lake]

harder target to hit

[mighty jasper]

@acoustic timber How

[sonic lake]

im saying man

people advise to be too sneaky sometimes

[acoustic timber]

idk i just do

[ruby hull]

dorms and places crawling with scavs and players like that are places you want to be careful about stomping about in

[vital patrol]

running makes way to much noise

[acoustic timber]

i just wear sordinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnns

[ruby hull]

like the middle of the wilderness you can probably run

[mighty jasper]

Tracking isnt very hard in this game, running doesnt make it much harder for me to be still

Its them taking cover that makes it hard

[sonic lake]

idk man

do what you want

but thats what works with me

[proper ginkgo]

Is this map outdated? What are garages? Every other map I see says storage

[mighty jasper]

Yeah thats why Im asking

[fallen crane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/477465806704214020/657481658584268810/CustomsMarvelin.png?width=1154&height=559

[vital patrol]

I mean I like going to high pop places like dorms so I'm not about to be runnin around there and give myself away lol

[mighty jasper]

Is there a general movement guide

@proper ginkgo extremely outdated

[stone surge]

@sonic lake https://i.imgur.com/jK6ZEli.png

[sonic lake]

its the same map

[stone surge]

Poggers

[ruby hull]

i mean the important thing to remember with movement is "loud" and you will be tracked like a dog if you do anything but minimum speed crouchwalking

[mighty jasper]

He doesnt have the extension in the first one

[proper ginkgo]

@fallen crane That map doesnt label any extracts

[fallen crane]

wdym?

[vital patrol]

I see extracts on it

[proper ginkgo]

oh nvm

i see em lol

[sonic lake]

i run to an objective

[fallen crane]

green cylinders

[sonic lake]

once i get near it i slow down to hear

[fallen crane]

green arrows pointing down are player spawns too

[mighty jasper]

@sonic lake Do you just run straight forward?

[proper ginkgo]

where is that map from

[sonic lake]

yes

pretty much

[mighty jasper]

Shadows? Sticking to walls?

Cover to cover?

[fallen crane]

http://www.marvelin.se/ - this guy has made quite a few good maps

[mighty jasper]

Observing?

Nothing?

[sonic lake]

staying too close to a wall is predictable

[fallen crane]

his interchange one is very good

[sonic lake]

noob moove

i free look while i run

[ruby hull]

eh i do pretty well wallhugging

[proper ginkgo]

Jesus man resources for this game are fucking everywhere and 90% of them are outdated lol

[sonic lake]

lots of changes

[proper ginkgo]

free look an extra fucking 5 degree s lol it sucks

[sonic lake]

as for layout its kinda the same

its better than nothing

[ruby hull]

it's when i stand still in the middle of nowhere lying prone that i get capped in the head

[sonic lake]

always keep on the move

lul

[twilit pike]

how do you put scopes on AK 74 and sks

[sonic lake]

SKS

dont use it

AK74

bastion dust cover

[vital patrol]

^

[sonic lake]

if you mean optics like a PK-06

[zealous forge]

Or Vepr KM

[sonic lake]

a TT01 will do for the AK74

if you needed to ask this, you shouldnt be using a 74, as 5.45 is shit for low levels

[muted juniper]

whats the best place to kill scavs on customs?

[sonic lake]

instead use a Vepr 136

[ruby hull]

dorms usually vuhpo

very dangerous scavs though

sometimes

[muted juniper]

ok

[sonic lake]

best place to kill scavs in customs is gas station, dorms, checkpoint, and the customs barn thingy

both gas stations btw

[muted juniper]

ok

[ruby hull]

sometimes they are dangerous sometimes you funnel 7 of them into a room and headshot them in quick succession lol

[muted juniper]

i never find scavs at old gas

[twilit pike]

vepr isnt full auto tho

[mighty jasper]

^

[sonic lake]

sometimes its scav boss

yes

[civic flax]

anyone on miami willing to help me acclimate to customs pacing? just a cheap run

[mighty jasper]

Scav boss can spawn in old gas

?

[sonic lake]

but full auto is useless when the ammo you get tickles

boss spawns in dorms

get a vepr 136

spam it when needed

[mighty jasper]

VeprKM gang

[sonic lake]

otherwise its the best budget gun

better than SKS

[twilit pike]

why not a akm

[spark marsh]

Scav boss can Spam on both old gas and dorms

[sonic lake]

AKM has super high recoil unless you mod it out

[mighty jasper]

Huh

[sonic lake]

you can use it too

if you want

no

[mighty jasper]

I thought it spawns on new gas/dorms?

[sonic lake]

he spawns new gas

[fallen crane]

^

[sonic lake]

not old gas

[muted juniper]

akm is pretty good if you use single fire

[proper ginkgo]

are spray patterns fixed in this game

[spark marsh]

sorry mb :p wrong name 😛

[sonic lake]

kinda, james

theres a generall pattern but its mostly random

[mighty jasper]

I think akm for closer quarters vepr for general use

[sonic lake]

like AKMS and Veprs kinda go in a circle

[mighty jasper]

VeprKM is just a really good gun with very little modding

[muted juniper]

you can trade 3 tushonkas for an akm at lvl 1 prapor

pretty good trade tbh

[stone surge]

Depends how you see it

[ruby hull]

good way to make money

[stone surge]

tuchunka sells for like 20-25k on flea

iirc

[muted juniper]

[stone surge]

I could be wrong, as i'm not in flea right now

but im pretty sure it's 20k+

[twilit pike]

oh i traded some for akms

[muted juniper]

theyre pretty easy to come by in raids tho

[sonic lake]

they are

until you need it for a quest

LUL

[mighty jasper]

Yeah toshunka is expensive

[muted juniper]

arent they used for a quest?

[mighty jasper]

:^)

[sonic lake]

took me so long to find 15 tushonkas

[mighty jasper]

Yeah they are

[spark marsh]

u need them found in raid for one of the quests

[sonic lake]

already having a 7tushonka headstart

[mighty jasper]

Hoard up

[muted juniper]

i already have 2 found in raid

[spark marsh]

but if u hit up inside the mall, there are set spawns for them

look on shelves to find a bunch

[dense comet]

hello

[sonic lake]

hello

[muted juniper]

so best place to kill scavs is probably the customs barn right?

[fallen crane]

only found in raid ones i think

[muted juniper]

since im not too geared and dont want to go dorms

[sonic lake]

yeah i guess

and the storage area behind it

[muted juniper]

ok

ty

[spark marsh]

customs barn, or outside ice cream

[muted juniper]

where is ice cream?

[sonic lake]

i have seen like 3 outside of ice cream for the past 30 raids lmao

[spark marsh]

near sniper extract

near real bridge

[muted juniper]

ah

[open flower]

having trouble surviving

[dense comet]

i just got the game does anyone want to ply and help me understand it?

[muted juniper]

#pvp-lfg

[mighty jasper]

@open flower Dont we all :(

[night chasm]

just wondering what is the best map for newcomers?

[sonic lake]

@dense comet do #521628660298678283 and #news-setup pls

[open flower]

lol

[sonic lake]

!sherpa

[tribal robin]

Hello @sonic lake,

In the Escape from Tarkov Official server, you can ask for <@&521614335945080832> to come and give you assistance with Escape from Tarkov.
You can ask for in game help, help on modding you weapons, assistance to do quests... sherpas are here to help.
You can also request sherpas on the main Escape from Tarkov website.

Send a request to a sherpa :

https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/sherpa

Help on how to do your request :

https://forum.escapefromtarkov.com/topic/88265-how-to-ask-for-a-sherpa/ 

On this discord, you can also use :
● #beginners-assistance : To chat with other beginners and meet sherpas.
● Beginners assistance : To talk with sherpas and to be moved in private rooms, to raid with them !

Thank you, and good luck in Escape from Tarkov.

[sonic lake]

also

[muted juniper]

probably customs @night chasm

since the starting quests are there

[sonic lake]

customs

[night chasm]

ok thanks

[muted juniper]

and its pretty simple

[mighty jasper]

Defo customs

Linear too

[sonic lake]

just dont go dorms lul

[mighty jasper]

Yep

[sonic lake]

thats where all the sweats convrrge

i cant spell

[muted juniper]

factory is instant death

[night chasm]

ok

so i will avoid dorms

[muted juniper]

yes

[night chasm]

time for my first raid i guess

thanks

[dense comet]

ok i think i did it all right

[muted juniper]

and if you have trouble learning the map, just pull up a picture of the map on your second monitor or phone @night chasm

definitely helps knowing where you are and where you need to go

[mighty jasper]

Anyone knows how the armor pen calculation works?

Like whats the formula for piercing armor

[muted juniper]

no idea

[mighty jasper]

Hmm

Icant find it in the ballistics page

[fossil patrol]

Hey what’s the diff between a ASVall and the VSS?

[fallen crane]

i believe vss levels dmr skill and val levels ar skill

[open flower]

how do i keep from spawning walking 10 feet and dying

[fallen crane]

what map?

[open flower]

custom

id complain about factory but that map is super small

[fallen crane]

depending on where you spawn you need to be smart about where you move to

avoid the main road, dorms etc

[muted juniper]

^

remember this isnt call of duty

[mighty jasper]

@open flower learn spawn locations, I know some people like to stay stay stationary for a little while to avoid people running from their own spawns

Makes fights a little more authentic

[turbid heron]

is interchange a good map for beginners?

[open flower]

ok thanks

[muted juniper]

@turbid heron id say customs is the best tbh

interchange is a little too confusing imo and all of the beginner quests are on customs

plus all of the geared players on interchange trying to farm killa

[turbid heron]

aighty

thanks

[muted juniper]

np

[proper ginkgo]

Where can I get bags from other than killing scavs

or pmcs

can they be looted?

[wispy void]

@turbid heron play on customs to learn the map. You can always scav in as well. Try playing on offline mode to learn the map, controls, guns

bags can be looted

[turbid heron]

Hmm

[muted juniper]

ragman sells some pretty shitty backpacks

[turbid heron]

never thought of plying in offline

[wispy void]

buy a sling from ragman if you need it

[turbid heron]

alright

[sonic lake]

buy a sling

[muted juniper]

offline is pretty good just to learn the game and the controls, etc

[novel shuttle]

theres no enemies or anything in offline, so its just exploring. and you get no xp or anything

[sonic lake]

pick a bag up from scav

[muted juniper]

sling is 2x3 lmao

[wispy void]

try using the escape from tarkov wiki to have the map loaded on a second screen so you can see where spawns and extracts are

[warm rover]

Dude AKM is such a beaast

[split vapor]

eh

[muted juniper]

yeah i pull up the map on my phone

good for learning extracts

[turbid heron]

Sounds good

[wispy void]

if anything has a bag then it will be better than the sling

[placid stream]

is it possible to put a monstrum or similar sight on an AS VAL?

[open flower]

how do i buy things from the flea market? i cant seem to figure it out

[placid stream]

are you level 5?

[open flower]

yes

[wispy void]

do you have the money in your stash

[sonic lake]

yes satricion

[open flower]

i have money in a wallet

[muted juniper]

you should be able to just click buy

[sonic lake]

but i wouldnt recommend sniping with a VAL

[placid stream]

not sure what mount or dust cover i need?

[wispy void]

is the money in your stash

[placid stream]

yeah i don't wanna snipe i just want a little more than a reflex

[open flower]

its in a wallet

[placid stream]

so a monstrum is ideal

[open flower]

do i have to take it out of the wallet?

[sonic lake]

use the SVD low sidemount

[wispy void]

if you have it in a wallet on your character then the flea market will not show you as having any cash

[open flower]

oof

[sonic lake]

its the best looking mount currently

[open flower]

tyty

[sonic lake]

others sit too high

[placid stream]

so i chuck that mount on it and then i can put other sights?

[wispy void]

you have to have the money in your stash for the flea market

[sonic lake]

yep

[wispy void]

whether it is in something or not

[sonic lake]

also

dont use a VAL

VSS is cheaper and the same thing

happy pmc hunting :)))

[placid stream]

haha cheers

[wispy void]

if they have a val though why not use it

[placid stream]

i just have a val already

picked it up off an unfortunate dude

[sonic lake]

yeah

make sure to use SP6 and it shreds

[craggy echo]

Does anyone wanna play I'm extremely new and I need some help

[wispy void]

it is really quiet

[sonic lake]

im just saying

if they wanna use 9x39 again

use a vss

[placid stream]

i'm on the weapon modding sight and i can't figure out where the mount goes

[open flower]

i took the money out of my wallet and it still wont let me buy anything

[sonic lake]

make sure

to click Fill Items in the bottom of screen

money out of wallet and in stash

it should work

[muted juniper]

pretty sure the money needs to be in stash

[sonic lake]

click deal

[brave plover]

deal is at the top pf the buy tab bro

[placid stream]

oh wait i figured it out cheers

[sonic lake]

deal is at the top

if you click and makes a sound but no item

wait

inv is being slow

[sharp garden]

whats the best amoo for the Orsis T-5000

[muted juniper]

deal is indeed at the top

[azure badge]

hey what key is for the factory door at customs?

[open flower]

it just brings me to a screen that says handover at the bottom

[brave plover]

i need some newb tm8s to run with

[fallen crane]

its a barter @open flower

[proper ginkgo]

What should I do when I spawn as PMC in customs? I feel like just running to where I need to go will get me killed. What should me pace be and towards where? Away from other pmc spawns?

[sonic lake]

handover?

[fallen crane]

go to flea market settings and tick the box that says 'exclude barter offers'

[sonic lake]

@proper ginkgo where do you need to go

[next vessel]

what key do i need to open this door?

[sonic lake]

factory key

do the shortcut jump instead

[proper ginkgo]

I just need to kill scavs. I'm not sure where I spawned. Outskirts near big rocks

[open flower]

that worked ty

[next vessel]

factory key the one that has 50 uses?

[sonic lake]

yes

shortcut jump is free

[proper ginkgo]

Im here

[sonic lake]

but is kinda hard to get sometimes

uhhh

youre just left of dorms

[next vessel]

youre near the camp number 2 i think

[sonic lake]

or right

uh

[next vessel]

right from dorms if u look at the map

[sonic lake]

near dorms

[proper ginkgo]

How would you move in such an open area right off the bat

[sonic lake]

run to closest cover

or objective area

when i spawn there i just sprint to dorms

cause thats what i do now

if you keep going right from that picture youll run into dorms

[hardy ravine]

Is there a chat to set up squad runs? Newish player here lookin to squad up

[proper ginkgo]

Isn't that a dangerous area? High traffic? I wanna avoid players

[sonic lake]

yeah

[brave plover]

i need a squad as well

[sonic lake]

it is

[proper ginkgo]

I hear loads of fighting to my right

Not going there

I'm a noob

I just need to kill scavs

[sonic lake]

@hardy ravine @brave plover do #521628660298678283 and #news-setup

youll see #pvp-lfg

uh

if you want

run past dorms

or go left

and try to kill scavs at checkpoint

or go gas

which youre also near

but it can also be high traffic

but the firefight at dorms could indicate scav boss

and that rings dinner bell for all other players looking to fight

[proper ginkgo]

some dude just ran up on me and i got all this lmfaooooooooooooooooo

running away from dorms

gonna just extract

[sonic lake]

lul

[proper ginkgo]

doesnt look like too much but worth extracting

[sonic lake]

0 ammo in all guns

wot

drum mag mp5k

[proper ginkgo]

he died to me so he has to be garbage

[sonic lake]

level 17

yeah

he sure is

[proper ginkgo]

im lvl 3

[sonic lake]

lmao hes still a shitter

but youre not as much of a shitter as him

which is wakcy

he had guns

im really confused

[compact basin]

Might have been Marked Room loot

[sonic lake]

marked loot has boolets

doesnt change the fact that the guy was a shitter lol

[proper ginkgo]

I was organizing my inventory and someone else came slowly creeping up my left.... pistols werent enough to kill him...

[mighty jasper]

If I'm using 762x39 PS bullets vs a class 5 armored target

Can I kill him shooting to the chest?

With say, 10-20 bullets

[sonic lake]

yikes

maybe

not sure

[mighty jasper]

I dont get the calculation behind bullet damage

[sonic lake]

just shoot his head

[mighty jasper]

Is it literally useless or just ineffectice

[round ridge]

how can I improve this modding further ?

[mighty jasper]

@sonic lake dont helmets work the same just less durability and deflect chanc

[sonic lake]

yes

but usually helmets are shittier tier

than body armor

@round ridge put a zhukov stock

[compact basin]

@mighty jasper Clase, im not sure about how updated this is, but NoFoodAfterMidnight has a nice colorful ammo table.
According to it, it would take about 9 shots to kill
Ref: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jjWcIue0_PCsbLQAiL5VrIulPK8SzM5jjiCMx9zUuvE/htmlview?sle=true#

[sonic lake]

if you want to keep supressed, PBS 1 is best suppressor

[mighty jasper]

I'm trying to understand if I spawn as a scav with an mp133 should I be aiming doe the legs