beginners-assistance

[fringe canopy]

This community is supposed to be cool. This was the first match I played on this Discord server and I get TK'ed for looting my scav kill 1:39 into the raid

[lavish hawk]

@fringe canopy that sucks bro... can't say i've had any similar experiences but if you're new i'm down to help out

[fringe canopy]

No, I'm not new, that's what pisses me off. I'm played hundreds of matches and never been TKed

[neat spruce]

@fringe canopy sorry you had a shit experience dude! Don't give up on the community!

[lavish hawk]

ah well i get your frustration, fuck that guy lol

[fringe magnet]

Then you know this isn't a general thing of the community @fringe canopy

You'll have fuckwits anywhere

[fringe canopy]

I'm going back to the unofficial server. That one at least lets you report teamkillers.

[lavish hawk]

there's an unofficial one? haha

*inb4 getting banned for asking

[fringe canopy]

https://discord.gg/ueft

[lavish hawk]

dope

[fringe canopy]

It's way better imo

[fringe magnet]

seems like an elaborate ad for another discord server

[lavish hawk]

LOL right

but thank you didn't know that one existed

i'll still trawl this one tho

[neat spruce]

Man, this place is crap. Here let me post an invite to the "better" discord...

[amber saffron]

Im not a fan of that one

[neat spruce]

Where at least you can report the team killers (there are a lot of them, that need to be reported in the first place).

[amber saffron]

I prefer this one way more

[fringe magnet]

Why is the KGB MG-47 pistol grip so expensive?

starts at 32k?

it only adds 9 ergo

O_o

an rk-3 costs like 8500 or so

am I missing something?

[hollow hearth]

I have no idea what im doing and my friends arent online

please halp

[lapis mauve]

its probably find in raid only

if you do #521628660298678283 and #news-setup you can go to #pvp-lfg

[amber saffron]

Whats a good cheap mount for the AKS to put a "WEAVER" on it?

AKS-74

[fickle kettle]

sks

[open basin]

put the tt01 on it

[amber saffron]

Dovetail OP-SKS mount?

[open basin]

dont listen to avi

he is trole

sks user 🤢

[amber saffron]

Tactica Tula TT01?

[open basin]

yeah

[amber saffron]

Aight thank you

There are so many AKS-74s. Which one is the best for beginners?

[lapis mauve]

Ak-74m

Or ak-74n

M is cheaper tho

[amber saffron]

Aight thanks

[open basin]

vepr km

[amber saffron]

Where do i buy it from? Do any traders sell it or Flea?

[zealous knot]

so the fresh wound status means you can start to bleed again if you sprint too far or jump too high? ive been sprinting but i didnt bleed again....

[open basin]

guns are usually gonna be cheaper on flea

[patent niche]

yo who trying to tream up

im new

[open basin]

#news-setup #521628660298678283

[amber saffron]

There's AKS-74N and AK-74N

Which one is it?

[fickle kettle]

@amber saffron ak-74m

[amber saffron]

Aight

[open basin]

if it has S in then the stock on it cant be removed

[fickle kettle]

you can use ak 105 for cqb

[lapis mauve]

105 is my favorite

[ember oak]

gotta start dooing interchange more often

usually do reserve but this is way better

[open basin]

yup

decent amount of squads there tho

[ember oak]

i went trough the entire thing 2 times without seeing a single person

lucky i guess

[open basin]

yeah there's some raids like that

[fickle kettle]

if you in NA

that could explain why

[ember oak]

can the rain fucking stop soon

holy shit

its so fucking annoying

[open basin]

so it's showing me the items i started the raid with

and not the items i extracted with

and i know that if you transfer an item it should be fine

but it's not working

[scarlet breach]

rain is the best part of this game, chilling and fast walk free

[bright stump]

@open basin as a scav?

[open basin]

yeah

i did it like 10 times in a row and it eventually fixed

[frozen cradle]

yea that is usually how it is, if you extract as a scav you will see the gear you spawned in with and NOT the grear you extracted woth

[open basin]

it's annoying af

[frozen cradle]

[ember oak]

what????

didnt even kill anyone

[tribal cove]

Are slugs good in this game? For example SF

[fickle kettle]

SF or AP 2.0

is gucci

[scarlet breach]

@ember oak spawn kill like in quake 2

[ember oak]

is military checkpoint a good key?

[scarlet breach]

Price check to know

[ember oak]

im in raid

[lapis mauve]

if i don't recognize a key i assume its expensive

also good reason to carry a docs case with some room

[fickle kettle]

why docs when you can use sicc

why vepr km when you can use SKS

[lapis mauve]

one is 220-250k and one is 2 mil

this is channel for new people yeah? most new people don't have 2 mil i think

[fickle kettle]

i think alots of ppl maybe have 2 mil

but ya docs good for starter

i did use doc b4 using the sicc

[ember oak]

2 mil takes like 3 hours to make

not even that if you are lucky

[open basin]

not for beginners

[ember oak]

from the interchange run i did earlier i can see how easy it is to make money

[fickle kettle]

but still dou how the hec that dfuel got to 75k each

[lapis mauve]

doesnt it trade for rr?

[fickle kettle]

1-2 week ago it still 30-40k

[drifting mica]

Yeah. 10 dfuel 5 fuelconditioner, and 12 propanetanks if IM not mistaken @lapis mauve

[open basin]

so how many shots of lps gzh do i need on a bare target to kill

[golden geyser]

@ember oak Key is around 180k

Wow I'm late to that, lol

Raid must already be way over

WTFFFF

GOSHAN KEY WHEN I SPAWN IN AS SCAV IN FACTORY LMAO

[open basin]

get out asap

[golden geyser]

lmao

I fucking did and I got so lucky

JESUS

[fickle kettle]

inb4 get camp

[golden geyser]

I thought I was unhappy yesterday when I lost keycard

and this comes up

What is going on

[open basin]

i saw this dude running to emercom checkpoint so i followed and went to the camps next to it

and i see the same dude camping on the sidewalls waiting for people to exfill

smh

extract campers bro smh

[golden geyser]

Extract camping WeirdChamp

[open basin]

yeah bro

extract campers are the worse

[fringe magnet]

I've so far never been extract camped

in ~300 hours

not once

[open basin]

maybe it's cuz ur the extract camper

[crimson onyx]

Play interchange. This patch I run into them every other raid.

[open basin]

🧐

[fringe magnet]

I mainly run Interchange @crimson onyx

It's the map I've played most by far

[open basin]

run factory

[crimson onyx]

^ That one is bad too

[fringe magnet]

I stay away from that cancer @umbral bolt 😄

@open basin I mean

[vocal bone]

factory way to dark lol

[lapis mauve]

happened to me twice, i died to them once

[prisma stag]

this isn't beginner-assistance related, but somehow related to teamkill and extract camping:
this night I was first time on reserve. run a lot, collected some low level shit ignored by others (I'm lvl7) headed to exit. 10 minutes till end of raid, turned switch on, runned to bunker. near it saw 2 geared players running in. shouted "cease fire", they shoured back and escorted me to exit. we missed exit in like 4 seconds because they waited for me.
they said "stop" and runned out (looks like back to the switch) and almost immediately started shooting with someone. waited for them till 2mins on counter, headed to sewer, dropping backpack midway. after like half way to sewer heard siren, sprinted back, grabbed backpack literally without stopping and managed to extract in like 13 seconds before the end of raid. I extracted, but alone, without them.
I feel bad for ruining their escape but really appreciate their big hearts.

[urban silo]

nice story. I have never been on reserve

[vocal bone]

best map

decent sized lots of stuff to hide in between n around

very nicely made

[urban silo]

Cool I may give it a try later on

[vocal bone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzB1MY8tpHw

wrong video fuck

this guy narates the games sick sub him hes got a bunch

[urban silo]

EFT?

[royal vale]

I love interchange, I feel like it suits beginners better

[open basin]

made 2mill in like 4 hours

[frank beacon]

Shot by a mosin at extract on shoreline again ok yeah i hate to be that guy but this map gotta be full of extract campers bro theres no way

Fuck this map

[open basin]

lost a quarter of it bc of friends from the west pt2

fuck skier

[royal vale]

Where did you extract @frank beacon

[frank beacon]

Tunnel

[open basin]

you were prob extract in the wrong spot

you can extract where no one can see you in tunnel

[prisma stag]

interchange? beginners?
idk, as for me it is huge open areas with a lot of dark covers - you can be shoot from any angle.
not solo or not now yet as for me.
shoreline or customs are better for survival imho

[royal vale]

I feel like the only way you could get sniped there by running on road

[frank beacon]

Going across the road

[open basin]

ah

[royal vale]

On left side to the tunnel theres road, you can extract from there

[open basin]

yeah

[royal vale]

Going from beach

[open basin]

there's legit no way that can hit you there

[lapis mauve]

or go up top and clear the rocks, if you hear someone chuck a grenade

they were talking about removing those rocks

[royal vale]

@prisma stag it's easy to find exit for beginners andd lots of juicy loot

Only killa might be a problem to them

[prisma stag]

yep, bur hard to survive to be able to get out (at least with not empty backpack)

[royal vale]

They can casually loot parking lot

Usually no players over there

[prisma stag]

I've tried interchange like 8 times and survived 0 (both of as scav and as pmc)

[royal vale]

Did you run to Oli?

[prisma stag]

not if I not spawned here, but yes, death always happened inside the building

[fringe magnet]

Interchange best beginner map, represent

I started on Interchange and quickly made so much money

Customs has been my death map for the longest time, slowly getting the hang of it.

shoreline is fine as long as you avoid resort.

[royal vale]

Try to loot parking lot, if looting building unsuccessful for you

[fringe magnet]

I would recommend as a beginner not to go into ultra at all

stay on the periphery

[prisma stag]

customs are fine for me as soon as I started to bring a lot attention near loot areas

[fringe magnet]

there's heaps of caches to loot

[dark pagoda]

hello guys

[fringe magnet]

and some easy scav kills at oli ramps, road block and power station

[grim wagon]

what

no

get stuck in

[dark pagoda]

im new at the game here can someone help me get started??

[prisma stag]

and became food? :D @grim wagon

[royal vale]

I made so much money on interchange map that I just run blackjack backpack and loot everything in oli

[grim wagon]

like running around the outside is pointless

[dark pagoda]

im new at the game here can someone help me get started??

[fringe magnet]

How is it pointless, @grim wagon. Beginners need to get a feel for fighting scavs first, which you can easily do on the periphery, and you stumble upon a few undergeared players on the routes as well

[grim wagon]

play offline to fight scavs

[fringe magnet]

it's not the same if you know there will be absolutely no players involved

[grim wagon]

working the outside of ic really isnt a good use of time

[royal vale]

@dark pagoda wish I could but not at home

[fringe magnet]

how do you measure good use of time? by Rubles/minute?

By bullets shot at players / minute?

[grim wagon]

not exactly

[dark pagoda]

@royal vale no worries dude

[prisma stag]

well, I can be successful at any map, but my main issue is potato pc and lack of reaction. if I spot enemy first - i'll survive, but if I miss enemy - I have no chances

[grim wagon]

but things going on. running through areas with no loot scavs or players is pointless imo

[fringe magnet]

you may be forgetting how terrifying tarkov is as a new player @grim wagon

[royal vale]

@prisma stag like most of us, it's all about spotting enemy

[grim wagon]

not really

i went in hard on customs and enjoyed it

[royal vale]

That's why headphones must be worn all the time

[prisma stag]

not really, someone just have great reaction and aiming so they will win any firefight if not dropped by single shot @royal vale

[fringe magnet]

@grim wagon so that generalizes to everyone else per se?

[grim wagon]

it does and doesnt. but skirting interchange isnt fun either. that and if you play parking exclusively, you'll likely run into infinite scavs and die anyways

[royal vale]

@prisma stag yeah, some people but most of us don't have great reaction.

[prisma stag]

agree

[fringe magnet]

@grim wagon I'm 300 hours in and still enjoy doing occasional pistol runs through the outside of interchange. again you generalize from what you find fun to what everyone else must find fun

[grim wagon]

imo noone bought tarkov for the scenery lmao

[royal vale]

@prisma stag also potato pc, even on my high end pc I get freezes all the time, really pisses me off

[fringe magnet]

how is it scenery if you still get to fight scavs, bring out loot into the hideout, earn exp, and have success stories?

[royal vale]

They need to do something about it

[prisma stag]

well, in my case freezes is not real issue. the real issue is unability to recognize what I see in 15 meters of me, bush or crouching player :)

[royal vale]

@prisma stag yeah, had that problem as well, Nvidia freestyle fixed that issue for me

[prisma stag]

thanks, will take a look

[sharp bough]

morning big boys

how is everyone

[urban silo]

Until now everything was fine.

[prisma stag]

btw, what about ballistic in this game? i mean, are bullets hit immediately or I should shoot in front of running person? and how much in front? I mean, just shoot front side of body or aim like 1-3 meters in front? (I understand that it depends on distance, but still)

@urban silo but then I realized that I'm not a big boy, lol

[grim wagon]

depends on distance

but yes ballistics are a thing

as is gravity

Be aware that freestyle will likely be blocked soon, i'd just play the game as designed and get used to it

[royal vale]

@grim wagon it's way too grey, they need to add contrast and brightness in settings

[grim wagon]

monitor

a game like this needs to be on even ground

honestly i bought a monitor with better color depth and you can tell the difference

[royal vale]

Because everyone has different monitors, some people might have really dark monitors others really brightness, so we can say that people with brighter monitors got an unfair advantage?

[prisma stag]

yeah. camo is designed to hide the shape, but I literally can't say from 20 meters what I see, bush or player until it moves (900p, 24")

[grim wagon]

get on 1080. thats what its designed for

[prisma stag]

sadly I have gtx750ti and at 1080 it drops below 25-30 fps

[grim wagon]

thatll have a fair bit to do with it.

[prisma stag]

and yeah, I'm going to buy some better card, but I have a lot other things to buy for my home as well, so... I'm here to fell pain :)

[livid merlin]

will there be another sale for christmas?

[grim wagon]

i used to have a 4g 750ti so i know what its like, although with a chucnk of OC that wasnt half bad

@livid merlin usually 20% of xmas / newyear

[scarlet breach]

How to enable fps display?

Or there is no native from client?

[bright stump]

Open your console and type in fps 1 for a simple display or fps 2 for more details.

[scarlet breach]

Console?!

[bright stump]

I think the default key is ~ or something like that, buy you can change it in your settings.

[scarlet breach]

Thanks

[grim wagon]

default key is `

the one thats left of 1 on a uk board

[open basin]

i saw this pscav sprinting towards me while i was walking along side the forest side of the crane by shoreline

i one tapped his ass with the hunter and poor dude had a labs keycard

[golden geyser]

Does the documents case not let you unlock doors during raid without taking the key out?

[grim wagon]

it does

[golden geyser]

Oh okay, thanks 🙂

[fickle kettle]

when you in the middle of the fight with glukar and the raider but friend loggin in without saying a word

[royal vale]

is it worth to spending time droping all items on ground from enemy body after you finished looting, so other enemy will struggle with looting?

[fickle kettle]

no

you just helping them

they dont have to searching for the item

[royal vale]

well i mean they probably will be looking at ground searching for good loot

[fickle kettle]

but searching time take alots more

[royal vale]

which will be difficult to spot any

[fickle kettle]

you helping them skipping item

and if you throw it out

they can move and loot

[royal vale]

wdym move and loot

[fickle kettle]

they can keep moving around and press F

other than if you make them searching for the item

they standing still + making sound

[royal vale]

ah i see, thanks

[fickle kettle]

this is why in EFT

looting is the most dangerous thing

cause you are very very vulnerable while looting and searching body

[knotty finch]

for jaeger quest that says i should not have body armor

can i use an armored rig?

[plucky goblet]

no

[knotty finch]

ty

[bold kernel]

Do graphics card spawn inside computers as well?

[fickle kettle]

yes

[bold kernel]

!wiki pc

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/PC_block
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page pc for a direct link or !wiki search pc for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

PC block

PC block is a Loot Container in Escape from Tarkov.

[fickle kettle]

@bold kernel very very low % dou

[bold kernel]

Epic, thank you

[gray mountain]

PC block is where I get all of my GPUs

too scared to play a map where they just spawn

[bold kernel]

tfw last time i played a steam game was 20 days ago

tarkov got me good

[reef prairie]

hi. what exactly means "found in raid"? are these just the items that are spawned on the map?

[open basin]

it means items that you found yourself in a raid

[reef prairie]

oh, ok. so if i kill a pmc and take his weapon that he brought into the raid its not "found in raid"?

i thought everything you take out of a raid is "found in raid"

[open basin]

uh pretty sure it's not for guns and shit

[plucky goblet]

only stuff that spawned inside the raid you are is found in raid

stuff brought in by PMCs isnt

to prevent boosting stuff

[reef prairie]

ah, ok. thanks

[mighty jasper]

Uh

Do I get a penalty for leaving as a scav?

[reef prairie]

no

[mighty jasper]

The game is stuck on "Synchronizing with other players" on 80% for 7 minutes now

I think it's bugged

[bright stump]

Alt+F4.

[mighty jasper]

Cheers

[bright stump]

And restart your game.

[unique willow]

how viable strategy is it to just run factory and kill single high tier player and run straight up?

[fickle kettle]

srsly EFT is a game that come with alots of unexpected situation

so strat already failed

and Factory is for pvp

not a place to make money

[unique willow]

??

whats the difference?

[fickle kettle]

1: there might not alway be a high tier or geared spawn with in your map

2: can you even kill him ?

3: escape or not it your choice

[waxen forge]

4 even if he was there and you killed him can you make it out past the scavs and other players. Can you loot him before you get killed from the dozens of angles possible.

What I've said before is: Yes you CAN make money on factory but I would never recommend it as a money making map. It is just no consistently profitable.

[rocky ocean]

You need to have situational strats what will i do when this happens ect

[waxen forge]

Consistent profit = Interchange

[rocky ocean]

Most profit i got through scav factory

But im ultra lucky

Everytime

[pseudo forge]

what is the best way to farm killa?

[unique willow]

yea i'd guess, but pure profit feels kinda meaningless since what is it for? when you kill someone for the profit you feel like you earned it, if you just run around avoiding people whats the worth of the profit

[rocky ocean]

Profit is profit depending on the goal

If you want to lvl traders or buy something specific it doesnt matter how you get your income

[waxen forge]

If I'm making money then I'm going to make $. If I'm going to kill shit then I'm going to kill. I can make profit from the kills but it's 2 separate goals imo

[rocky ocean]

^

agree

[crystal adder]

Any advice for skiers Stirup task 4 pmcs with pistols

[unique willow]

5-7

[waxen forge]

I always do it with APB on factory

[crystal adder]

Doing horrid at it so far pistols no kill nothing

[fickle kettle]

@crystal adder factory

[unique willow]

if you wish to kill anything but scavs with a pistol i would recommend 5-7

[rocky ocean]

I always sell pistols straight away dont really feel like they have much use except as secondary for snipers

Even with sniper i dont take a pistol with me because i take a gun from a dead scav

[unique willow]

5-7 is a pretty nice for decent budged loadouts

1 tap for up to level 5 helmets

[rocky ocean]

Havent seen a 5-7 for now^^

[unique willow]

pretty high end

[rocky ocean]

Or any other good pistols

I only find pms

Or the usec pistol

[crystal adder]

It's skeir's second task, i got no 5-7's for trade

[fickle kettle]

m9 is good

[desert hull]

@unique willow 5-7 doesnt pen level 5

[unique willow]

i did say up to 5

meaning everything under

[desert hull]

that includes level 5

[rocky ocean]

Do you move slower the more weight you have?

[desert hull]

you would say up to level 4

it doesnt pen level 4 either

not reliably

5-7 is a class 3 rated round

for l191

[rocky ocean]

Are scavs proning sometimes?

[desert hull]

yes

scavs will often prone in fights

[rocky ocean]

Ok

[fickle kettle]

drop shot

toxic

[desert hull]

Scavs played a lot of bo2

and mw3

[unique willow]

cod's in general

[desert hull]

just fyi

its beneficial for PMCs to do it too

[unique willow]

reduces your recoil to a fraction of its basic

[desert hull]

yes, full auto fury

[mighty jasper]

I tried reloading my sks and it told me that "I cannot change this part during a raid"

Am I missing something?

[waxen forge]

You don't remove the integral mag

You have loose rounds in pocket and hit R

It loads through the breach

[mighty jasper]

Oh, so I should be bringing 1 magazine?

The one thats in my weapon

[fickle kettle]

does your sks even have a mag ?

[mighty jasper]

A 10 round one

[waxen forge]

The SKS be default has a integral mag

[bold kernel]

Is this lag on my, his or server end?

[waxen forge]

Yes that is the default integral (internal) mag

[desert hull]

@mighty jasper internal magazine

not external

[waxen forge]

You take it out to load it in stash and put it back in the weapon

But in raid you take loose rounds and R reloads through the breach

[mighty jasper]

It wouldn't let me take it out though

oh

I see

[desert hull]

boy

[fickle kettle]

just press R

[desert hull]

have you played any ww2 game ever

[mighty jasper]

But the magazine needs to be kept on right?

[desert hull]

or used a mosin

[mighty jasper]

Nope

Oh I used a mosin a few times

[desert hull]

yes internal magazine

does not detahc

load rounds through roof

[mighty jasper]

"Internal" magazine means nothing to me

Okay the other guy seems a little more patient

[waxen forge]

The bullets are stored in the gun

[bright stump]

Leave the magazine in the weapon and only take extra bullets with you.

[mighty jasper]

What if I bring a 20 round magazine?

[bright stump]

Hitting "R" will reload the SKS like a mosin then.

[waxen forge]

Then you need to remove the internal mag to use the external ones

[gray mountain]

I definitely dont feel like AP-20 slugs can penetrate armor as people has claimed

856 dmg absorbed

[bold kernel]

peepoyikes

[desert hull]

@gray mountain ammo spreadsheet doesnt lie

[gray mountain]

what the fuck

I guess

[desert hull]

read the sheet

[mighty jasper]

It wouldn't let me remove the internal mag ingame though

In raid*

[bright stump]

No need to remove it.

[desert hull]

buddy @mighty jasper

[waxen forge]

Right

[gray mountain]

People claimed to have good results with the that slug tho

[desert hull]

shit is literally bolted in

[waxen forge]

It won't let u in raid

In stash u can to pre-load it

[bold kernel]

I only have good results with the mosin tbh

[desert hull]

@gray mountain it does have good perf

check spreadsheet

[mighty jasper]

Okay so say I have a 20 round external mag(I think?) and the 10 round internal mag

[gray mountain]

Ye

[desert hull]

it pens what it says it pens

[bold kernel]

every time i take a stacked out gun i get one tapped :)

[desert hull]

if you find some dude with class 5

ofc you arent penning that

[mighty jasper]

If I reload the 10 round magazine in

[gray mountain]

Wanted to try it out tho

[desert hull]

@mighty jasper not a thing

[gray mountain]

killed 2 shturman guards

[desert hull]

cant mix and match

internal external

completely separate

[mighty jasper]

I think I can put a 20 round magazine and empty it, then reload a 10 round magazine

No?

[desert hull]

no

10 rd is bolted in

[mighty jasper]

Why not

[desert hull]

pre raid only

BOLTED

[mighty jasper]

Oh

So I cant install it midraid

[desert hull]

internal magazine /=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/ external

[gray mountain]

Exactly

[mighty jasper]

Yeah that's all I was looking for

repeating yourself doesnt help

[desert hull]

you are trying to use an internal magazine like an external magazine

[mighty jasper]

Thank you

[desert hull]

idk how else to explain it

[mighty jasper]

"You can't install an internal magazine midraid" would've done just fine

I get it though, cheers

[bold kernel]

Stop being so aggressive fellas

No need

[gray mountain]

What armor class does shturmans guards wear?

[desert hull]

class 6 sometimes

so up to class 6

[gray mountain]

oh

[bold kernel]

Does anyone else have issues with serious audio desync?

[gray mountain]

I feel like sometimes I hear my own footsteps like it were a few meters to the right

but other than that, not really

[bold kernel]

Hmm

[gray mountain]

Some headsets bug out sometimes

[bold kernel]

It's like the third time today I hear the gunshot AFTER I die

[gray mountain]

makes sounds repeat multiple times

[desert hull]

there is a severe audio desync bug yes

but it isnt timed

like regular desync

it just means some sounds wont play

@bold kernel you do realize....

bullets are SONIC?

[bold kernel]

A second after I die...

Like a full second

[desert hull]

yes

sonic

[bold kernel]

No

[desert hull]

yes

sonic

not subsonic

[bold kernel]

No, definitely not at close range

[desert hull]

unless otherwise explicit

you shouldnt hear the shot at all

if we're being real

you should be dead

nobody ever heard the shot that killed them

[long spear]

supersonic is the term you are looking for

sonic just means related to sound

[desert hull]

no I was referring to the hedgehog

[bold kernel]

Wait look at this

[long spear]

well unless it hits your brain in a certain area you arent immediately unconcious

[bold kernel]

I get shot a second before I hear the bullets

It's obviously desync

[long spear]

yeah that video looks like desync to me

[desert hull]

@long spear that was implied

[bold kernel]

See that's what I mean, it keeps happening to me over and over again

It has nothing to do with sonic bullets, it's just desync

I checked my ping multiple times but my internet seem to be working fine

Hence why I was wondering if anyone else has the same issue

[long spear]

well i couldnt really tell that was implied because you referred to bullets as sonic so i used that as a reference

[bright stump]

Doing an integrity check and making sure your drivers are fine can't hurt.

[desert hull]

@long spear true

[bold kernel]

Yeah I guess I'll do that @bright stump

What silencer is worth it for the M4?

[tribal cove]

My assault armor is 0/23.2 does that mean it is useless now?

[unique willow]

yes

[rocky ocean]

wuuhhuuu got my mosin back from insurance 😄

[desert hull]

@bold kernel NT-4s are fine

[rocky ocean]

are the prices for selling stuff to the traders ever changing?

[desert hull]

@tribal cove 0 durability means its useless, 23 max durability means even if it gets repaired tis useless

@rocky ocean depends on item

[bold kernel]

I had to buy a DT Mount then a Silencero 😦

[desert hull]

1. nikita can change any trader price without an update required

see: high tier ammo recently and water

/fuel

[rocky ocean]

nikita?

[strange mural]

also the amount sold

[desert hull]

lead developer

[rocky ocean]

ahh

ok thanks!

[desert hull]

also therapist prices fluctuate with the flea market

with the rarer items

like BTC

[bold kernel]

Thats nice

[strange mural]

in the future all of the trader prices are supposed to naturally fluctuate

[desert hull]

@strange mural I have become what I hate

on woods

[strange mural]

you found the way.

[desert hull]

also had to maul some poor scav before I killed him

because of Jaeger's dumb quests

shot him in the legs like 5x on one scav

he didnt die

had to headshot him for mercy

but jaeger wishes it

btw guys jaeger is a good guy

[rocky ocean]

wow

i got 7 kills on woods in 1 raid for the prapor mission

[desert hull]

nice

[rocky ocean]

is it worth using a helmet with a shield for sniping?

im using a djeta + mosin + scope

it looks like its easier to spot stuff without the faceshield

[desert hull]

are you solo

[gray mountain]

Killed Shturman but another player killed me pepehands

[desert hull]

@gray mountain why woods is cancer in 8 words

[gray mountain]

lol

I really want that fucking RR pick

[desert hull]

just buy off flea

much easier

thanks game mechanics

[gray mountain]

Yeah, I guess

[rocky ocean]

@desert hull im running solo

[gray mountain]

I want to be able to loot him and stuff tho

[rocky ocean]

only need 4 scavs for the mission

[desert hull]

@rocky ocean and what helmet with a visor were you thinking about using

[rocky ocean]

im already using a djeta helmet

but im not sure if its good for sniping instead of only helmet and glasses

[desert hull]

so lets go over something

what is that helmet rated to stop

inspect it

what class is it

[desert hull]

I know what it is

I'm learning you

so what class is it

[rocky ocean]

armor class 2

yea just saw it that its in the desc

[desert hull]

now go over this spreadsheet and count how much bullets can penetrate class 2

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jjWcIue0_PCsbLQAiL5VrIulPK8SzM5jjiCMx9zUuvE/htmlview?sle=true

[gray mountain]

And before you can even check the spreadsheet some idiot with a 9mm onetapped you

[desert hull]

I'll skip to the point

these are the pistol/SMG calibers

the numbers on the right are how feasible it is for that bullet to pentrate that class

1-6

[rocky ocean]

looks good for 5.56 aswell

[desert hull]

what looks good for 5.56

@rocky ocean

[rocky ocean]

are the green numbers how many bullets are needed to penetrate?

[desert hull]

lmao no

a "6" means it won't stop a single bullet

clean cut

[rocky ocean]

ahh ok

otherway around 😅

[desert hull]

in the front of the helmet, out through the back of your head

read the key at the top

[half jackal]

tchayd?

[desert hull]

do you want to try again @half jackal

insert 25c

[half jackal]

tuclhoaryodo?

[desert hull]

insert another 25c

[half jackal]

turclihowareyoudoi

[desert hull]

machine is locked

contact administrator for assistance

[half jackal]

❌

[desert hull]

@rocky ocean so heres what I'm trying to teach you

that police helmet will stop only the absolute shittiest of rounds

[rocky ocean]

its good against pistols and smgs

[desert hull]

that inclludes the visor as well

no, its not

it literally won't stop any pistol

[half jackal]

its okay against the shittiest ammo of the shittiest calibers

[desert hull]

9x18 makarov

9x19

[grim wagon]

9x18 the only ammo to use is sp7

aim for a squishy bit

[desert hull]

a 12g shell wont care either

because that 3 is for a single pellet

@grim wagon we are talking about how shit the police helmet is

[half jackal]

yeah it will shred your armor with the first few pellets

[desert hull]

and why one would not wear it

[half jackal]

and then ruin your life with the rest

also it blocks hearing

[rocky ocean]

ok i see

[desert hull]

also the visor obscures vision

[half jackal]

which is #1 reason not to use

[desert hull]

and the helmet itself obscures hearing

so you're blind and deaf

[half jackal]

since hearing > head protection at anything lower than 4/5

[rocky ocean]

yea thats what i was writing earlier because of the vision for sniping

[desert hull]

and it won't stop any bullets

if you were talking about a helmet rated for class 4

[rocky ocean]

i have also a lvl 3 helmet without faceshield

[desert hull]

I would have still told you to not wear it

but definitely don't wear the djeta

just wear a SSh

cheap and effective

[bronze ice]

Headshots are too rare for helmets to be more useful than headsets IMO

[desert hull]

doesnt block vision or hearing

@bronze ice I mean most helmets don't block visors

and the ones that do are more important to wear in CQB

[rocky ocean]

yea i have 2 sshs

[desert hull]

than hearing

[rocky ocean]

thats why i was asking

but i thought the djeta was a bit better

but what do i know 😅

[desert hull]

when playing solo your hearing is especiallly important @rocky ocean

[bronze ice]

Ye, just sayin' I'd rather invest in a headset :x

[rocky ocean]

yea

[desert hull]

don't wear helmets that block hearing unless you're doing factory or something

[rocky ocean]

i have headsets aswell

ok !

[desert hull]

always wear headsets when solo

[rocky ocean]

i will sell the djeta

[desert hull]

your advantage as a solo is hearing over squads

squads cant hear shit

they're all stampeding around like bulls

[bronze ice]

You can keep it for scav hunts

[rocky ocean]

thanks alot for the chart!!!!

[desert hull]

nah hearing is still more relevent

I'd wear SSh

@bronze ice

@rocky ocean heres the link, bookmark it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jjWcIue0_PCsbLQAiL5VrIulPK8SzM5jjiCMx9zUuvE/htmlview?sle=true

alternatively use wiki's version

!ammo

[tribal robin]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Ballistics

[rocky ocean]

i used the djeta when i sniped 7 scavs for the mission but it felt a bit off because of the vision of the faceshild

[grim wagon]

its the same table btw

both maintained by nofam

[desert hull]

delta says the wiki version is more up to date

[rocky ocean]

saved both for just in case for now ^^

[desert hull]

but delta also says the SV98 has no delay

[rocky ocean]

xD

[desert hull]

so

[grim wagon]

it does but hey

[rocky ocean]

proceed with caution

[bronze ice]

Wiki was a bit behind last time I checked

[grim wagon]

only thing we are behind on is mod compatibility and loot tables iirc

because they both take a hella long time to update

[desert hull]

my favorite thing about the wiki is asking myself "why the hell is that item so expensive"

then wiking it and being like "oh"

example

!squash

[grim wagon]

!wiki squash

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Squash_spread
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page squash for a direct link or !wiki search squash for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Squash spread

Squash spread (Squash) is a provision item in Escape from Tarkov.

[desert hull]

ye that

I just use the wiki manually through chrome because I'm a pleb

[grim wagon]

expensive because tasty treat

[desert hull]

I'm like "Why is squash 30k"

but then its used for 2 useful trades

[long spear]

vegetables are good for you

id pay 30k for some squash

[desert hull]

so is fish

tarkov seems to have plenty of canned fish

my PMC is going to be very nourished in this next raid

balanc diet

[rocky ocean]

im using the steam overlay to use the wiki or maps during raids 😄

i dont have a sec monitor

[desert hull]

never thought about doing that

be warned overlays in the past caused problems

[bright stump]

There are ingame maps as well, if you want to use those.

[rocky ocean]

havent had any bugs so far 😮

[desert hull]

its not bugs

rather, shit performance and stutters

[rocky ocean]

i heard the ingame maps arent that good so i never bothered to buy them

[desert hull]

might have been alleviated with 0.12

[waxen forge]

Don't bother

[finite atlas]

yo anyone got some tips for the shootout picnic task? I'm level 21 and still haven't gotten around to playing woods

[rocky ocean]

@finite atlas im doing the same mission atm

i only have 4 scavs left

[waxen forge]

Hang around scav house....shoot scavs....if not enough there check around spine

[desert hull]

I've been saving up canned milk for years

@finite atlas How are you level 21 but haven't did your third prapor task

[rocky ocean]

i bought a mosin and upgraded it with a mount and scope im only sniping the scavs at the scav house

[desert hull]

[finite atlas]

I just did the other ones

[bronze ice]

@rocky ocean Dude, that's genius

[pseudo mural]

just killed someone called ninemilforlife

[rocky ocean]

first run 4 kills second run 7 kills

[bronze ice]

I use my phone for the maps

[pseudo mural]

had a berkut bag full of 9mm mags

[desert hull]

Those early tasks are supposed to kinda teach you the maps

it starts you on customs then expands to woods

[pseudo mural]

carrying a saiga 9x19, and a PM 9mm

[desert hull]

and eventually interchange with ragman and reserve/labs with jaeger

[rocky ocean]

@bronze ice i was thinking about it but i often use steam overlay for such stuff so i just added the game to steam

[pseudo mural]

that's fantastic

[finite atlas]

lmao like i know woods hahaha

[rocky ocean]

works like wonders

[desert hull]

@pseudo mural PM 9mm?

elaborate?

[pseudo mural]

makrov

[desert hull]

thats 9x18

[finite atlas]

@rocky ocean how the fuck

what did u add to steam

the launcher?

[desert hull]

are ppl calling any other round than 9x19 9mm

[rocky ocean]

yea

[desert hull]

reeeee

[pseudo mural]

Yes, I don't remember all the calibers.

[rocky ocean]

you can even use the overlay on the launcher xD

[finite atlas]

i gotta do that

[rocky ocean]

also i use the steam fps counter this way

[pseudo mural]

yes

[finite atlas]

also yes idk woods. i've been playing this game for 2 wipes now and i do not know woods

[desert hull]

seems like a personal hurdle

[finite atlas]

i found my gas analyzer in marked

[desert hull]

what does woods and gas anals have in common?

[rocky ocean]

oh lol the screenshot misses the steam fps counter

[pseudo mural]

there's .380, 9mm, 9x19, 9x18, .357 sig, 9x21, 9mm winmag, 9x25 and 9x18 makrov(which is different from 9x18 ultra)

so ya there's all kinda 9mm.

[desert hull]

yeah but who calls any other caliber

[rocky ocean]

@finite atlas we can play together if you like to

[desert hull]

besides 9x19 parrabellum

"9 mil"

[finite atlas]

@rocky ocean sure shoot me a dm

[bronze ice]

9x18 9mm master race

[pseudo mural]

9x23 steyr is a really interesting round

so is 9x25 mauser

[desert hull]

like yeah here's a 9 mill bullet fellas

[warm quail]

gas analyzers for days in the svetily dead end side shoreline hidden stashes

[desert hull]

yeah thats 9 mill alright

[pseudo mural]

9x25 super auto is basically 10mm auto too

[desert hull]

am I gun retarded?

[pseudo mural]

38 S&W is 9mm too

same with 357 mag

[desert hull]

I know those are "9mm"

but I have only ever heard parabellum described as a "9 mil"

[pseudo mural]

375 cheytac is 9mm too technically lol

[desert hull]

are you listening

[pseudo mural]

if you've only ever heard parabellum called 9mm, you haven't been around many guns.

[desert hull]

of course not

[bronze ice]

Caliber naming conventions are silly AF

🤷

[pseudo mural]

well I mean, your premise was 9x18 isn't "9mil" was kinda, not right from the beginning

[desert hull]

nobody disagreed that it doesn't start with 9 in its caliber

I was saying that I have only ever heard 9x19 para called "9 mil" as a nickname

[bronze ice]

Ye, since it's more popular in most places I suppose

[desert hull]

if you wanted to quickly say 9x19

you say 9 mil

if you wanted to say 9x18, you'd say 9x18 or mak

etc

[bronze ice]

And you don't really see 9x18 in a lot of games :x

[pseudo mural]

Most of eastern europe refers to 9mil as 9x18, same with China

[desert hull]

probably a western thing then

[pseudo mural]

It is

[bronze ice]

Yep

[pseudo mural]

It's a cool thing though

[bold kernel]

9 militrash

[pseudo mural]

because when we think of "military rifle", we think of the M4 and it's variants

[desert hull]

and ofc they think of the AKM/AK74

or derivatives

[pseudo mural]

in Ukraine, if you say military rifle, they don't think of AKM/AK47

they think of the damn mosin lol

[desert hull]

oof

not SKS?

[pseudo mural]

SKS is a hunting rifle

[desert hull]

Russia didnt use SKS for long but everyone else did

that were under its curtain

[rocky ocean]

what i also do is tap out open a bookmark copy paste the link and put it into the steam overlay browser so that you dont have to google stuff

[desert hull]

SKS is a military self loading rifle

[pseudo mural]

But ya, when you say "battle rifle" the first thought for them is "Mosin"

[desert hull]

it became a hunting rifle the same way any other obsolete gun can

the eastern world was just a little slow to adapt self loading rifles

[pseudo mural]

SKS was in production for a very short time, from like 45 when it was accepted to like 54ish?

[desert hull]

not in all countries

many eastern bloc countries produced it in large numbers

in fact the main users I'd imagine were not russia but the smaller countries surrounding it

[pseudo mural]

Ya

it was a export rifle for the bloc mostly

[desert hull]

russia moved on from the SKS within half a decade of its production

[steady pilot]

But svt40

[desert hull]

not for any reason other than the AKM appeared

[steady pilot]

:[

[pseudo mural]

Ya, the SKS was accepted in 45ish, then in 47 the AK47 came

[desert hull]

but ukraine and romania can't afford to buy AKMs

[pseudo mural]

svt40 ❤️

[desert hull]

so they bought SKSs

[pseudo mural]

I still like the fact that the SKS was produced in a factory called "Hammer" and gained that nickname

[dusky hazel]

Keep it on topic here guys

thanks

[desert hull]

buzzkillington

💢

[dusky hazel]

that my job, is to make sure you dont have fun..... ya know...

[steady pilot]

[desert hull]

I understand is ok

[dusky hazel]

[pseudo mural]

Okay, back on topic. I've had a lot less sucess with the SKS in game

than I have with the mosin

[bold kernel]

Whats the best ammo for an MP7?

[pseudo mural]

likely due to pen/dmg of the ammo

[desert hull]

@bold kernel review chart

always

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jjWcIue0_PCsbLQAiL5VrIulPK8SzM5jjiCMx9zUuvE/htmlview?sle=true

no reason to ask us anything about ammo as soon as you realize you need to just look at that chart

[bronze ice]

Mosin is beastboi

[desert hull]

@pseudo mural SKS fires a much weaker round penetration wise

[pseudo mural]

Ya

[desert hull]

so ye

its still plenty powerful

dont know why you'd have issues with it

[pseudo mural]

I dunno, I just don't have as much success with it

[bold kernel]

So the subsonic is the best?

[pseudo mural]

even running BP, things just don't seem to die

[steady pilot]

Dmg is hardly an issue just need penetration

So use bp

[bold kernel]

Yeah so the 4.6 Subsonic is the best?

[pseudo mural]

I'm using BP/BT delta

[bold kernel]

Oh nvm the bP is xD

My bad

[pseudo mural]

maybe I'm just not good at it 😛

[steady pilot]

762 bp

[pseudo mural]

er ya, BP 7.62 in my sks/akm

and BT/BS in my 74m

[desert hull]

@bold kernel Did you not look at the chart?

💢

[pseudo mural]

I've mostly been running mosin/svds with 7n1

[maiden flint]

Hi, is there any laser in game that can be seen only by night vision?

[rocky ocean]

is there a difference between tactical sport headset and sordin?

[desert hull]

yes

all the headsets have differences

you have to use them a lot or look at a comparison video

[rocky ocean]

ok thanks!

[pseudo mural]

last night I accidently murked reshala and hsi guards, looted everything, few seconds later got into a firefight @ V-EX..tried to nade them, nade bounced off a tree

killed myself

sometimes I forget how bad I am at this game, then I do stuff like that and remember =\

[desert hull]

oof

you were at the extract?

[wind ore]

Are we going to have a holiday sale for tarkov ?

[pseudo mural]

no, I went to extract, but then got into heavy contact and couldn't stay

they were tossing nades in

[steady pilot]

No reason to run mosin unless for the jaeger quest

[desert hull]

Nobody knows unless its announced @wind ore

[pseudo mural]

so I bounced headed towards smugglers boat

[desert hull]

@steady pilot no reason to do those quests unless you're getting kappa or use mosin a lot

[pseudo mural]

delta, why, because the SVDS exist?

[desert hull]

self fufilling prophecy

[steady pilot]

Because sv98 is cheaper

[pseudo mural]

SV98 is too heavy

[steady pilot]

[pseudo mural]

it eats your stamina ADS

[steady pilot]

Its 40nergo

Mosin is 6

[desert hull]

^

[pseudo mural]

I genuinely don't like the SV98. It feels like there's a delay from the second you pull the trigger until the bullet fires

[desert hull]

there is

dont let delta tell you otherwise

[steady pilot]

The power of misinformation

[desert hull]

no I have literally tested this

there is a clear and distinct delay

200ms if I had to guess

maybe 140-150

[pseudo mural]

I dunno, it legit feels bad

[steady pilot]

Might be a sound delay but I noticed the bullet literally sends about the exact same

It's a non issue

[pseudo mural]

🤷 can't seem to hit anything with it period, feels like there is a delay, gun feels clunky in comparison to a mosin

[steady pilot]

Sw a sniper, the sherpa, even says it's not enough to affect anything

[pseudo mural]

ya and that's probably true

but I legitimately can't seem to use it right. I'll try it in offline mode again here in just a bit

but, it definitely doesn't feel as good as a mosin

[steady pilot]

That's backwards

[desert hull]

@steady pilot it aint

[steady pilot]

But sv98 was in game forever

And mosin was added in 10.5

[desert hull]

gun doesnt even start recoiling or animating

[pseudo mural]

I mean, preference exist. I have probably 70 kills now with the mosin, I've yet to kill anyone carrying the SV98 even though I've taken it in probably 10 times

[steady pilot]

So old content is going to feel different till they decide to optimize it

[desert hull]

SV98 has a clear delay broski

its not enough to make the rifle useless

it still has its perks

but it definitely is a thing

[pseudo mural]

I just don't find the SV98 usable for me

[steady pilot]

Bsg oversight if so

[pseudo mural]

I'd much rather take a mosin or preferably the SV98

I love the SV98

it's beautiful

er, preferably the SVDS*

but, the SV98 is probably my favorite looking gun in game, I just can't use it yet

[steady pilot]

I mean I rock only svds my self, its 55k

[pseudo mural]

ya

SVDS is the king for me

[desert hull]

SV98 would look better if it didnt have the flattop

I feel like it didnt have that in every game its been in

[steady pilot]

?

The weaver rail...?

[desert hull]

compare

[half jackal]

you can take it off

or not use it

[half jackal]

its just a heat ribbon

+1 ergo

[pseudo mural]

on the heat shroud?

[desert hull]

really?

[steady pilot]

The hest ribbon lmfao

[half jackal]

yeah

[desert hull]

that literally makes or breaks the gun for me lmao

[steady pilot]

Yes its removable my dude

[desert hull]

guess im using sv98 now

[pseudo mural]

that doesn't bother me lol

[half jackal]

it does annoy me

but w/e

[pseudo mural]

why was this dude carrying 7 surv15s?

[half jackal]

what map

[pseudo mural]

customs, some player I killed had a backpack full of surv15s

[half jackal]

Surv12 santa

[desert hull]

^

[pseudo mural]

ya

weird

[steady pilot]

Probably brought the wrong backpack

[desert hull]

thanks for killing santa

[steady pilot]

[desert hull]

ya fuck

[pseudo mural]

someone we killed earlier had a backpack full of the drum mags for the M4

[desert hull]

I hate ppl who use the flea

[pseudo mural]

just..completely full as well as every slot in their tactec filled

[desert hull]

they remove iron sights from guns right

[pseudo mural]

I was like "thanks I'm rich"

[desert hull]

and I can't use a gun without its iron sights attached even if Im using a scope

looks fugly

[steady pilot]

I mean no

[desert hull]

and if you go to flea market the sights

[pseudo mural]

I'm guilty of taking the rear sight off the mosin

[desert hull]

they cost 560k because ppl know this is a thing

[pseudo mural]

er not mosin, SKS

[steady pilot]

[half jackal]

ur name is off topic

[desert hull]

delta I swear

we're behaving

let me beeeeeee

oof

[pseudo mural]

how is this offtopic? it's questions about gun and fleamarket?

flea market and modding guns is probably 2 of the most confusing things in this game for newbies

[desert hull]

hey what the differences @steady pilot

[half jackal]

👁️ 👁️
👃
👄 👍 #1 tip for modding is [Linked Search]

[steady pilot]

Irl, one is zeroed for svd, one is zeroed for sv98

Hence a dovetail and weaver rail for the respective one

[pseudo mural]

ya

[desert hull]

yeah read description