#beginners-assistance
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like me.
haha
Oh noes.
If I were to send a video of me doing some quick gameplay to analyze how I can improve, where would I send it? TO someone privately or is there a channel in the Discord for me to do so?
Any ammo I can afford, lmfao. I bought like...200 Pst Ghz...particularly because that's what was already in the MP5 that I picked up.
There's an AP 9mm round
I can def do that when I get home from work today
Ninja and Shroud went to Mixer. My question is who's the big boy moving to Discord gaming 😉
No don't use 9mm
i wanna mess around with the modded shit weapon you get from the gun modding quest line
@steady pilot Yeah, man, definitely!
Ok go meme in #weapon-modding

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Leg meta is irritating
It blacks it and passes on 40 dmg over body
5
5
I think it's .5 damage reduction on blacked leg damage spread.
^
That said.. I realised leg meta with automatics, you're still at a hell of a disadvantage if the other guy can kill you in half the bullets you must score to leg him anyway.
but it would be the best usage of rip rounds
sorry closer to .3 I think
.5 I think was crouch
my go to
Than the sniper version probably
Can any one direct me to a good article to explain repairing, with the points etc
The carbine is like 22k
If you can get a budget gun and a supply of flesh rounds... maybe there is a budget angle to play but I just go 7.62 and up to m80's
@sullen musk this chat will be your best help
FAL is so easy to get
M1a is decent now
cuz i picked up a sv off the flea for 25k while the mosin from prapor is 28k
Your doing well when 1-5k difference won't matter anymore.
Scope is 3x and sub 15k
Flea market is currently around 35k for the Vepr Hunter, that sound legit or?
^^
Nah tbh hard to replace
hunters always come back with ins
Lol not really
Easy to nab gun
1x5
But yeah fal would not come back
Much cheaper
decked vepr
Bruh
Can Vepr be folded?
If you out the pt lock on it and put either of the folding stocks
Why would you want to fold it??
just sold 2 of them cause they are taking too much space in the stash
Thought mb I should've keep 1 of them
Will consider that if I'll get it next time
Can you do an offline mode in labs and not lose the keycard?
yes
Wow thats nice
Yup
good way to learn
finally got back up to 500k with 3 mil stash last night, then I got greedy on my last few raids and i've just been getting tossed around since lol
Cute
Never seen doge before
The only graphical glitches I've seen are SV-98 bipods showing up as white
XD
Wrong room to post that in
I was checking this was not a known feature, as im new before reporting as a bug
unless of course you need help with doge
This cant be real 
^
Hey guys

All I can think of is that he was messing with the game files or something?
The doge means there's a missing texture.
Just bought this game today and only been playing offline. Had a heart attack in nearly every scav encounter and now I don't know if I ever want to go online to deal with actual players 😓
You'll get used to it haha
☝
@brisk mortar Thats the reason? thanks 🙂
Don't worry though, scavs are still equally terrifying no matter how long you've been playing
I have a feeling it could be 80% the explosive game sounds fault
so a few quickies about key bindings
do you have peeks on press instead of constant?
No matter what, always assume Scavs are a threat.
They're either farmer Joe who lost both his eyes from squirrel attacks or spec-ops Navy Seal Delta Team snipers
No way to tell which is which so always assume the latter 🤷♂️
do you have aim on press or constant?
Oh if its me then I'm a default joe
im asking yall
just the preferred ways
because honestly peak on constant is awful imo
yeah
Hello

Hey Grim! If you haven't already, you should read the #521628660298678283 and #news-setup for this server
Heyo
kam

i wholeheartedly agree that everybody should do interchange for money
its defo the most fun ive had
cough profit
atm i dont know were everything in on interchange but shoreline is okey i guess
Shelves basically
Oli has so many shelves and they can all spawn expensive barter items
ive been wondering if it would be worth getting a key for the uhh
what are they called
the cashiers thingimahings
Register?

do they contain monies
is it any notable amount though
200-250k if you loot oli, goshan, and idea
Its luck based really
But guranteed prison wallet money
Hence why hatchlings abuse it
That just sounds zzzzzzzz
When I was learning game it was registers and interchange for me
I quote unquote blossomed on that map
reqisters is hatching hours though
Granted, before killa and other things
Exactly
@normal bear I usually dont have time to check every channel on this discord hahahaha
But im a real person of course, did you really think i was a bot or something? xDD
I sometimes wonder \

Does the recoil skill go up for using any gun or does each gun have its own recoil skill
There is recoil control for horizontal, all guns progress it
And vertical recoil controlled by leveling assault, dmr, snipers, etc
if im repairing armoured rigs / body armour to sell, should i always use prapor to repair?
Yup.
Either flea it and buy a better one for the difference
Armor below 30-40 durability gets quite useless
But i guess if you poor it works better than nothing
ok thanks
I was able to mess around with it before dknt remember what I did. But here's a side option, if you use nvidia geforce experience you could hit recommend settings to see if it fixes
can you do scav runs together with a buddy like pmc?
@silent sable yup!
thanks
is the mpx good?
Use mp5
ok so probably sell mpx then?
If you have one then run it
Why is it taking a long time to get on to a server?
7 minutes now and waiting?
@silent sable are you on the right servers
i have a decently kitted one that i'm gonna use in raid later
Is this the right waiting time for scav run with a friend?
yo
Does the Documents Case still hold keys? didnt get nerfed or anything?
can someone help me start
Might wanna change servers then, usually doesnt take me more than 3-5min
Gotta exit the game for that unfortunately
Yeah
In the game launcher, bottom says "Choose server"
And try another one with your better ping
ok
Yup
also @silent sable I'd consider trying interchange. It's all preference but I've had much more luck there than customs (personally)
Heya! Finaly home from work, hows it going ppl
This is my second day with eft
How are you finding it @silent sable
I like it.
@tawny quiver what do you need help with?
had a good intense run yesterday with scavs
Dope, glad to here it.. its alot to take in, but once your settled, it only gets better 😄
a bit annoyed to not getting any information on what is taking so long
matching... 3 minutes now
after a restart and only selecting a few lpb servers
I played this game 6 months ago and was level 52 but now I’m back to being bad at mechanics and everything has changed
But I still know the goals of the game
the goal is to have fun time, have sneaky sneaky time and be thrilled in the hunt and when escaping
this is bad 😦
allmost 5 mins now for scav and waiting
selected Helsinki and a few middle EU servers
netherlands and so on
And get yoinked a bunch
if the 30% off was live today I'd probably go home and buy EoD tonight. Didn't take long to get hooked
When is it live?
29-30
np! I had no idea, some one linked their tweet in here earlier
Should I not click ready on scav team when I only se 2 teams on the server?
try solo queuing if you can't match with a group
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Do Skav's have to extract?
Yes
There are different extracts for scavs than PMC’s
You can see them if you look online the map you want
And double tap O to see which ones available
where do you report bugs?
But do the skav's have to use the,?
If you don’t extract you don’t get to keep the stuff you have gotten
@tropic path there is a button in the launcher
@split vapor thank you
its above the play button
Me and snutri did a scav run on interchange, i started with a lab keycard and he found an item worth 250k after 5 steps.
We just gtfo
Cant hit the settings button because the window is past your screen edge, Eigur?
123
so when the window is past the edge of your screen you are still able to mouse down to where the button would be and wait to hear the click of you mousing over it
I know that alt enter changes the screen, it needs to be in the previous mode
like you just opened the game
Because it is windowed mode, and the bar is off the screen
you should be able to mouse past the edge of the bottom of the screen and listen for the click when you mouse over the settings button
hit alt enter again to change the screen and try
can som1 teach me how to play?
Try moving the taskbar to the side of the screen @stray crag
I had the same thing happen at day 1 of the patch had to guess where it would be at
If you cant do that you can trying going to Document>EFT>Local open via notepad
Everyone can put the bar on the side
The Local file is your settings
Should see that
but onvly with your current sets
if you change the resolution that should fix it to allow you to click on settings
Can someone teach me the game please? I need help.
I do wish bsg kept the screen settings also in the Launcher for things like that
look at maps on the wiki and learn extracts in offline mode
Start on customs and play offiline till you know the map
Move you desktop taskbar to the right of screen, not the bottom
then click in game [ALT+ENTR]
then you might be able to reach the settings
We got it fixed Walk
I figure someone else helped him, my bad
you good fam
I have a Beta container, can I sell it and upgrade to EOD edition and get a gamma?
@civic shadow im soory i deleted it
@supple umbra can either sell to a trader (probably ragman) or to a player
if you sell to a player you need to advertise it somewhere (not here) then sell for in game currency
@rotund rivet you pinged the wrong person mate, and get yourself all set up with the discord first, you can also look at #sherpa-info as well
is there a way to examine items faster than right-click, left-click 'examine'?
middle mouse
Thank you so much

hi
Hey all, Is customs the best beginner map to build up some starter gear? and is it wise to go in with just a pistol?
1st raid go wuth piostol
Eh, not really, customs is only good for that is the map that has for the first handful of quests on it
And dont just waste gear when you are new, mainly because you are just going to die
pistol and 2 extra mags
tap a scav or two
get their gear
i'm having to use more gear tho cuz i'm running out of room in my stash
Get fucked by a scav, feelsbadman
i tend to do better scav wise, pmc i barely survive
Also use your scav always when you can
It seems you need to learn these maps by heart :/ Otherwise I'm not sure what I should be aiming for
its free money and gear if you leave
I guess customs is good because its only left to right or vice versa
im also new and only play customs right now
i have one more quest there, the therapist water one
buut im having trouble spotting people or visually seeing them, most of the time I get dinked and dont get to shoot a single bullet at them, any tips on that?
@rapid fog I like interchange a lot, easy to figure out
Okay. I understand why you guys can earn a few hundred k rubles in a run or two.
Scav runs and Flea market is profitable as heck
One dude told me to record, if you can, so that you can replay your screen around when you died, to see if you can spot them on replay. Like slowly learn where to look, what to look for, but I've yet to do it myself @undone hazel
Recording yourself and watching raid back can be helpful.
See all you missed in the heat of battle.
if you're getting one shot, try to move less predictably/avoid looting in the open, etc. if you're getting shot at, the most important thing (for me) is the sound, and then get behind cover
@rapid fog customs has a lot of early quests and is a streamlined and straightforward map
thats not always good, cause it funnels you into a ton of PvP you might not be ready for
hello any newbies want to play with someone send me a pm! looking for someone to die with XD
@undone hazel gaurantee you're not using your eyes as much as you should be and probably moving around a lot without checking the area
once you start doing that its very rare to get one tapped
@queen trellis I can voice chat at least
but I might be doing tasks
@queen trellis Do #news-setup and #521628660298678283 so you can see the whole Discord
i used ap-20 rounds and shot a guy in the chest 5 times and it says he absorbed 77 damage HOW IS HE NOT DEAD?
we are talking the shotgun rounds right
Yeah
their penetration.. isnt that great
77 was absorbed by the armor?
But it says he only absorbed 77 damage
did it say how much damage you did to body?
a-
^
I killed some guys before so the number is skewed
did those guys not have armor?
well, for the sake of argument, if you killed 3 guys before, that'd be 884-870
so you're saying i didn't hit them?
its the most likely scenario
I'm not sure
but each PMC you kill, if they're at full HP, needs to be dealt 435 damage
t4
2 scavs and 1 pmc i killed before hand
Point blank range aswell i remember them grunting after hitting them
Hit them in the face as often as you can. Then don't have to worry about armor.
Just shoot them in the head
Sorry I'm more of a shoot them in the arms with a slug kinda guy. Headshot are overrated.
I just am used to shooting centre of mass if i don't have time to line up a shot
Yeah but i should have dealt more than 77 armour damage if im shooting centre of mass right?
Just press LMB, forehead.
Holy shit i never thought of that
@thin dawn cause its not destroyed enough
The visor shows 26 durability
26 out of what?
The thing is, when repairing a visor, if its cracked, its cracked, you can repeair its durability, but..again, cracked visors are a pain in the butt if you like..actually seeing with your eyes
Are you clicking on the visor itself or the helmet as a whole?
out of 50 sorry
unless they changed it I havent repaired a visor this wipe
Although now that I look at it. I think it might be the server being fucky
Cant sell anything suddenly as well
First thing. Go do #news-setup and #521628660298678283 so you can see whole discord and voice channels
Then I suggest specific questions.
!sherpa
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You can ask for in game help, help on modding you weapons, assistance to do quests... sherpas are here to help.
You can also request sherpas on the main Escape from Tarkov website.
Send a request to a sherpa :
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Help on how to do your request :
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On this discord, you can also use :
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Thank you, and good luck in Escape from Tarkov.

is the health resort safe key any good?
That it?
yes
Honestly don't think I've ever had it. However it's a safe so can't be bad. I wouldn't buy it but would use it if I found it.
I found one in raid
ill keep it
I searched it and its close to 200k so im guessing its rare
In 1800 hours I've never found it.
damn
Never went looking though
It should say why it's not compatible
what barrel is that?
That barrel cannot have chokes
what barrel do I need?
Check the barrels
508mm can have chokes
yes I used the 508mm fixed sight
Are the magnum buckshots any good? Also is there any way to get a mussle device on if you use a goliath handguard for the aks74u?
only the standard muzzle fits
and the TGPA supressor
ah okey thx
why does mechanic keep giving me these gunsmith quests
I've spent all my money
I'm in so much pain
:p
I muSt aCcePt
Bru
MEchANic WilLs Me
try keep in mind what you need from the shopping list on wiki for the quest. and save them if you loot them :P
no need to rush those gunsmiths unless there is a certain reward you want imo
sWeeT exP
ragman has best xp for quests I read somewhere
hehe :D I like interchange!
mostly because it's scary as fck :P
but you dont really need to go inside the mall :D just be outside/west side underground parking :P
get the scavs at powerstation and the ramps on east side of the mall :P
if you're lucky you can get a chainspawn of scavs in the westside underground :P happened to me once, I got 29 scav kills lol
there is almost never other PMC's down there, and there are a lot of weapon crates to loot
like 10 of them
unlucky :p I've seen other PMC's down there in maybe 5% of my raids or smth
hey
mall is fine
but the fucking underground
is so weird
i never really go there
i should honestly its almost like a safe house lmao
I can never get out of the underground
and the mall is so loud and so many places for players and scavs to hide
it's not fun for me
I rather customs
Whats the best 545x39 I can get at low level bp or PRS
or T
prs is worse then ps. bp is ur go too. gonna need quitr a few hits though on armour
Is T good?
think that one lower then prs
It is
Do you abse it off of bullet velocity?
pinned bullet chart
yes
seconds
I've always have scavs spawn in minutes after the raid started, never before unless they are a sniper
player scavs can be every 2-10 minute waves ish
well maybe for some areas but there is always a scav on the map somewhere pretty well at spawn
should never expect no spawns
Bullet velocity is not a factor in this game
It is but like doesnt matter until past 200m
Since most of your engagements are sub 200
9mm and US rounds are exception
Those are speshul
You use euros to buy a few things from skier and mechanic
Particularly a iCase or something comes to mind
Euros is essentially irrelevant though
When you upgrade your game, does it wipe your stash and level
Oh chill
what is the best armor to buy from ragman 2
Just buy a tactec for 70k
On flea
Class 5 chest protection, pretty damn good forn70k
Or get class 4 6b armours
I guess.
If you think about it, buying an armored rig cuts cost from having to buy armor and a rig
i got the tactec
Neee to turn in Euro for hideout upgrade too.
I'm just about finished with it. 3 parts left and I'm done.
Lol nice
level 3 bitcoin mine plus the solar and the air filtration unit
I cba with the cost. Money isnt hard but eh just not worth it ti work my ass off for. Gonna be wiped
Can you wear 5.11 Tactec plate carrier and Zhuk-6a together?
Plate carriers/armored rigs no longer stack with body armor
They essentially do the same thing
Yeah I thought so... Friend said he saw someone with both on a Shroud stream
Except some rigs dont cover stomach, somemdo
Maybe it was an old one
Basically any vids pre .12 are out dated
Oh haha
Level 3 Intelligence gave me 35% reduction on scav, 15% quest money reward boost, 20% reduction on insurance return, and 30% reduction of flea commission.
Plus I made 3 bitcoin while sleeping last night and at work.
Yea I've spent a hell of a lot more than I've received but I wanted to finish it so it was a personal little goal
20% reduction in how long it takes to get items back, or insurance price?
Return time
Oh that's awesome
My hideout still sucks
It's so insanely expensive to level up
But you don't even get any good benefits until later on
Prices should level out in a month
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
Can't wait to get at least level 1 Bitcoin farm
Pestily did a video about all you can do with fully upgraded Hideout.
Yeah I've seen it
How far off it are you now @thick mist
You need like 30 gpu
Some of it is meh but like I said I just wanted to do it.
What..
5
^
I had 1 gpu, until i upgraded it to lvl 3
I only have level 2 security, level 2 medstation, and level 1 nutritional unit
Which one needed a shit ton if GPU's 
The LEDX is going to be the most annoying part for L3 medical
Ledx spawns all over labs
Yea you only need 1 to use it but if you can have up to 15 GPU in it.
Ez prison wallet grab
Can take them out if you want though and they are not consumed
And extremely high chance I won't get any haha
I've done the whole labs gambling before
So having 1 vs 15 makes no differece in btc farming right now
I thought the more you have the faster it goes?
Cause that's a really dumb oversight if so
Yea more GPU = faster production
50 gpus you make 1 every 5 hours
So then having 1 pretty much sucks
You need 50 CPU fans to build it totally though. Maybe that's the 50 number you were thinking of.
So I haven't bought yet, I was recommended by a friend. Can someone explain to me what Escape from Tarkov is?
@undone moat #sherpa-info
Yea that's a broad question
Everything is there
I don't have permissions...
1 gpu is 1 coin 20 hours
It's a hardcore shooter with some mmo aspects.
@undone moat #521628660298678283
You need to accept the #521628660298678283
I appreciate it.
Sent me the link to this discord...
Huh
anyone got any good buget builds
I meant how did you get interested in the game knowing nothing?
for my pmc
@frosty crown veprkm , items prapor lvl 1 and 2
just got a ledx and tetriz in 301 west 😄
can anyone help me kill scavs on customs?
Why are you asking so many questions?
Just curious. It's not COD or Battlefield or some game that gets a ton of press.
Just recommended by a friend...
yes i hate it rn but still addicted
Welcome.
keep gettting killed by scavs
Shoot with gun
@split vapor do sherpa things
Just press LMB, forehead.
idk where b eing shot from
L0l
If all else fails throw your gun at him. Maybe he'll trip and break his neck.
I'd help if I wasn't ass brodie.
bullet, nail, hammer
uh no

I just got off another game RYAN!!

plus im trying to get a refund for Tropico 6 rn

4 and 5 better
That doesnt sound like escape from tarkov
it seems i'm surviving more as a Scav than PMC,
Cause people know pathing and spawn points
Everything has gone to shit by the time you scav in
@somber lagoon has to do with the fact you join late as a scav
and AI scavs don't shoot at you from the get go
and yeah people will cut off spawns
and spawnkill
at the start with PMCs
So, maybe playing slower would be better for me?
for sure
ok
as a PMC don't be afraid to just wait like 10 minutes in spawn
it eliminates the possibility for the most part of getting spawnkilled
ppl aren't going to walk directly into your spawn usually but they will cut off where you could walk to
You could play slower yes
Playing against the norm is also good
Basically just be a camper for 15 mins. Let them come to you or kill eachother
Then clean it up 👌
Wtf haha
Someone looted my 17k gun but took my 40k optic off
Guess it wasn't good enough for them :(
well
somebody could have did what I said
Nevermind they just.... ?????
took the optic
later died with it
optic gets returned
but somebody else could have came and took the gun and extracted
Why would they disassemble the gun to take up MORE space lmao
I guess haha
just hit disassemble
then drop all the parts on the ground
so it all comes back in a mess
Wish there was a mag container to put mags in
There is
Oh really
!wiki magazine case
Also don't hoard mags. Just takes up space. Can always buy mags especially common 30 round mags.
Lavatory...?
Anyone trying to just chill and play? Im pretty new so i wanna learn the maps and spawns and all that kind of stuff.
Si
That makes sense :)
lavatory aint just for shittin
well lvl1 is for that
you can make TP to help with the shittin tho
Can't wait to get my upgraded bucket at level 2
you actually get a full on shrek porta potty
like the wooden one
hopefully lvl3 has a nice toilet with a stack of newspapers
and an option to craft meth
lvl3 is a porta
I prefer my vision
gold toilet

:stonks: :(
Get the ak103 mag and a tt01 rear sight
my problem with that
is you have the sight really far forward
so its in the foreground
Nah I love co-witness optics
Nazwa, look up tt01 on flea market.
hey anyone wanna squad up ?
also you're using a micro reflex on a full size rifle
which, punishment for that is death
Ah heck :/
in fact
combination of the aforementioned things is mega death
Micro reflex is fine
Yes
Try it before you knock it
as primary sight on AK, is heresy
I prefer it better than irons
fun tho
762 bs stronk
and I've had to use it like twice in the entire wipe
Reliable
That's cool butnits still unreliable
Just cause itnworks a few times
Doesnt mean its good
well I ain't finna use a 40k pistol every raid as a secondary I might not even pull out
My gun is literally 25k
no one wants to group up?
You literally just talked about the gun wtf
im down if youre down to play with a new player lol @bold kernel
Yeh I use it like a back up pistol
or be tacticool
That can actually kill something and be moderately more accurate
and bring an actual handgun
bro you know how many shots to the face a handgun takes to kill
Bro you know any face sheild or a missed shot to the chest fucks you?
You really want to play this game
I don't miss
I is good
also ppl generally arent running face shields rn in my experience
No way that's sub 25k wtf
Vepr KM alone is ~16k
then the sight is like whatever amount
Only 9k left
Vepr 15k. Black polymer is 3k. Tt01 2k. Burssfast fire is like 10k
Ok its little over
Point made
giant unwieldy secondary 
Black polymer is 3k
I'd rather have a Vepr than dumb pistol haha
Look at prapor lvl 1 dude
ye ak100 handguard is clutch
Tt01 iron sight is 2k and million times better iron sigh.
ppl dont realize it has a built in underrail
m4 
is actually way better but you have small PP if you use it over AK
7.62x39 is way better than ppl give it credit for tho
idk if it got buffed recently
but 7.62 PS = 5.45 BT
No
and 7.62 BP = 5.45 BS
I mean anything other than BP is kinda meh
Backwards
whats backwrads
I use PS because budget and have trouble penning sometimes
I'm not saying it equals it exactly

Im saying its right in the same bracket of effectiveness
Whathca talking bout lads
ammo
Deez nuts
I'm not saying it equals it exactly
and 7.62 BP = 5.45 BS```
do you not realize like
🤔
You didn't do the squiggle smh
762x39 bad
Bold of you to assume
you bad
use 9.5x39
if 7.62 bad so is 5.45
545 bad
well,
7.62x39 is inconsistent with BP and such.
yes
7.62x25 is godlike
tokarev ammo is the best
@split vapor go snipe on rezerv w/ me while I go cqb in
PPSH-41 when
kekw
5.45 has alot more choices and russian bias makes it better than a kitted m4 when done right
7.62x25 got buffed after I made a reeeddit post kekw 😄
maybe
was that you
luka
From 19 pen to 24
luka
not to mention 5.56 is literally ass until 995
I use the same name always you should be able to tell
its okay
were you the one that made the post saying that tokarev sucks compared to mak and 9mm
but its basically BT lol
I didnt read name just the post
@desert hull yes
then they buffed tokarev
yes
and nerfed something else
and buffed Shrimp ammo
ye shrimp
Oh wtf the ASh-12 is so bad against armor lmao
I read that post but didnt realize it was lukaboy
yeah the ash is p bad
ash poo poo
I just wish BP wasn't so insanely expensive
its a very slow 12.7 round going about 300ms
is shrimp still inaccurate tho
762 bp is not expensive
doesnt matter if it got buffed if it has an accuracy modifier still
Unless you mean 545 BS
what about their accuracy
well grachs fine wdym
7.62 BP was like 610 per round last time I checked lmao
grachs objectively been the better 9x19 pistol, even right up there with a g17 until this wipe lol
@edgy grove No lmfao, Grach is 0.6 acc tooo, same accuracy as Shrimp
You realize there's rounds that are 2-6$ a pop rigjt
453 rb per round for 7.62x39 as of right now
Right
what is currently the best 9x19 pistol
does it have the 5-7 recoil bug maybe? 
what does it have going for it
M9 or bust
i like g17 over m9
besides that beefy ass sound
g-17 is for people with fast fingers
M9 has the best sound
m9 is for milsim nerds
objectively factually speaking
choose your fighter wisely
correctually speaking
@desert hull 2nd most accurate stock pistol, 17 round mag, already has a threaded barrel, easy to mod, cheap and accessible at LL1 peacekeeper
that's what it has going for it
what is worst 9x19
Milismnerd =/= a little bitch boy
Grach







