thanks
#beginners-assistance
buoyant mason
Because damage sustained to blacked limbs is spread evenly across the body for example if you have a blacked head and a blacked leg then get shot in that leg I believe it'll insta drop you
woven turret
How is he shooting without aiming and actually hitting? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28pVcgxWiJ8
severe warren
Could have something on his monitor marking where to aim.
safe swift
Im sure its not illegal because it can't be stopped, but it's certainly shameful and weaksauce
that's why the game should add in a deadzone, like in Red Orchestra
plucky goblet
hitting when not ADSing isnt that hard
severe warren
Agreed, in some circumstances, and if you play the game enough you do become familiar with where to aim. Also, sometimes it's gut reaction to just squeeze off a few rounds in shear panic đ Some people are better than others at it - Will also depend on the bullet spread, recoil, distance to target etc.
neat grove
It is not bannable as it is also not detectable
but also in tarkov it only works really for the first shot
fathom dirge
Hitting without ads isnt really difficult if you are good at the game and know the weapons.
cobalt cipher
guys
what happend to my fal
I did the modding
the recoil went down to 68 or something
and now it's up to 100 with same mods
I tried going in an offline match and it shoots like crazy
fathom dirge
Did you remodded again?
ruby cipher
With that hip fire thing it's really not that hard
My fully modded m4 and hk/adar perfectly fire in the middle of the screen during hipfire
I used it for close and medium range
Then the 4x for long
Lol im just lvl 8
Anyways kotton is just hella good with the game
ruby cipher
Maybe there is something u missing or accidently changed?
heady pilot
Ive become very stuck anyone know how to get unstuck?
simple pendant
can´t you move at all?
split vapor
Kam go to work
brisk mortar
I don't work on mondays, quiet.
split vapor
Oof
bold kernel
I'm not a beginner, and 70% of the time i die because of grenades in labs
Because they pretty much explode as soon as they hit the ground
I run behind some cover, go prone, still die
simple pendant
@bold kernel so your problem is how you effectivly play labs?
brisk mortar
It is through. Putting yourself in a situation where you're in contact long enough for a raider or player to throw a grenade at you is a problem.
Fights in lab should start and end within a few seconds, ideally.
If you don't drop your enemy, or get the complete drop on them, disengage and try again from a different angle.
Do not peak the same corner. Do not be in the eyes of more than a single raider down a hall. Do not try and get into a grind fight with another squad, with how small labs is the response from other players and raiders is far too quick to make it safe to do.
How's that sound @bold kernel
split vapor
Plus raiders are bad at throwing grenades majority of the time
bold kernel
@split vapor Doubt
bold kernel
''Plus raiders are bad at throwing grenades majority of the time''
plucky goblet
they are
brisk mortar
With snap throws, their worse, but if you keep trying to peek them from the same corner their gonna drop a nade right next to you.
plucky goblet
that and because they aimlock the angle you peek from are the reasons you never peek the same angle twice on raiders
simple pendant
restart your game or go into a raid
split vapor
or go buy something from them
grave summit
tarkov has a problem with refreshing trader levels, whenever you encounter such thing its a good habbit to restart the game
echo cobalt
Would anybody be interested on taking me on my first labs run? Im currently a level 28 but this is the first wipe ive played through.
young verge
oak cairn
Can someone teach me how not to be shit
safe swift
can someone give me all their money irl
crisp heron
Ay is server dead?
fathom dirge
@echo cobalt do be honest you already know the game. Take a cheap adar, load m995, take a trooper armor and ssh helmet. Watch a labs video or e.g. NoFoodAfterMidnight on twitch (he only plays labs) to get used to how labs works. Thats it, go in, go find some loot, go kill some raiders. It isn't anything else than a other map, expect you find some pretty good loot in there and have to be careful with raiders
@oak cairn take a medium loadout, e.g. trooper armor + adar (m995!) + ssh68 + comtacs. Go into shoreline OR interchange, and ONLY THIS MAP. learn the map, learn the movement of the map... stay with the loadout and map and you will get better over somet ime. If money is a issue, learn to make easy money with 10min scav interchange runs, then you can afford your cheap loadout everytime.
modern willow
Is there any reason to use Propital or whatever other drugs?
bold kernel
Well if you want a stat boost...
took one boosting vitality and bloodloss prevention in a factory scav... took on scavs from 3 directions for a good while.
split vapor
Stims just give you speed hacks.
modern pilot
^
the red one and i think the blue one (maybe green) together is op. raises vit end str and stam regen
be running around like the flash. thats how hatchet runners get to resort/ledx spawns first
neat grove
@woven turret
narrow pasture
hello i cant download the game do i have to download this zip file and extact it is it an uptade?
modern pilot
try in support chat
neat grove
modern willow
So which stims is that? But the side effects are terrible right?
mortal basin
so question i was going to get the game recently and i didnt know what version to get? what is the optimal version price/stuff ty
split vapor
id reccomend start with standard play a few days because there is no refunds
then you if like you can pay the difference between the edt's to upgrade
@mortal basin
modern willow
Ah okay, sorry, didn't see that. Thanks @simple pendant
mortal basin
so if i do like the game "edt" is edge of darkness?
simple pendant
EOD
split vapor
edition is what i mean
split vapor
like standard and the next version up is what like a 15$ difference
simple pendant
Either buy the standart edition or EoD
split vapor
best is just standard to eod
simple pendant
everything in between isn´t worth it imho
mortal basin
alright thanks đ
bold kernel
EoD is the best! đ
vast granite
hey guys i just got the game how do i get the keytool?
split vapor
you can buy one from flea or you can possibly find them in marked room on customs (need the marked key) or the marked circle on woods(i think that can spawn them)
brisk mortar
It can.
brisk mortar
Nuoh
vast granite
marked key hmmm can i find that in custom map?
split vapor
Plus Therapist has a barter for it
There is a special jacket that can spawn them, plus there is chance for them to be on ai
Or go buy Marked key from flea for 25k
vast granite
ok thx @split vapor
dry flame
Quick question, how do you quickly equip an item from a corpse without dragging
split vapor
either ctrl and click or alt and click
dry flame
that usually puts it in my backpack or not even equips it
or does this only work with armor and things like that and not weapons?
split vapor
guns work and armor and vests
split vapor
Alt+Left Click automatically equips the item on your PMC if the slot occupied by said item is free
Ctrl+Left Click automatically transfers the item between your PMC and your stash.
Middle Mouse Button is the default shortcut to quickly examine unknown items.
dry flame
MMB doesnt work for my anymore xdd
simple pendant
then you unbinded that
dry flame
How do i rebind it then
simple pendant
go to the control menu
cursive hedge
anyone up for some customs ?
dry flame
was going to but its getting pretty late
mortal basin
is there any way in the menu to turn off the effect where the camera moves where u mouse moves
safe swift
I actually wouldnt do eod from the start
you get too much shit and dont get to taste the poverty
mortal basin
ty
minor bluff
Anyone here willing to help a noob out in game?
grim escarp
bring moderate gear
I like to bring in the vepr hunter.
Its cheap and it can take down geared players.
tepid mesa
Can you put a handguard* with rails on the ADAR?
timber bolt
only consistent way to make money on lab is to cheese raiders
if you're not willing to risk screwing up and dying, you can always wait in a bathroom for 25 minutes and looting raiders in parking/hangar bay
the less players on lab, the better
pale shuttle
Yeah, been trying to find a good place to go for camping raiders. They don't always show up where I camp though
And then I step into a random room and get domed
pale shuttle
Are the prefab guns (magpul, silenced MPX, sopmod) from Kiba good enough to bring into labs?
Assuming I go with at least BT/BS quality ammo
rare arrow
@tepid mesa yes you can
you will need to buy low profile gas block for any of them though
mortal basin
so im curious on the market it has usd and euro? is that real money?
or just another form of currency in game
rare arrow
in-game currency
mortal basin
thanks đ
rare arrow
in game currencies: RUB, USD, EUR and BTC
mortal basin
also is going through the auction house identifying everything a waste of time or no?
vast granite
anyone bored wanna group up with me? i'm 1day old
mortal basin
@rare arrow is there a way to get similar items to stack or nah?
@vast granite im down im new also lol
rare arrow
if you come across one of those items in raid you'll have to examine before you can equip
more time to potentially get you killed
plus, you get a small amount of XP per item. so... its not a complete waste of time
mortal basin
my current annoyance with it is theres like 20 of the same item on the page and i have 2 scroll through them lol
main compass
Is there any way to have a map while a scav?
arctic moat
Okay boys
I was went in dressed up like this
And I died in a handful of seconds by getting shot to death in the legs
idle bluff
Welcome to Tarkov.
arctic moat
How is that realistic at all? In a pretty realistic game so far
I can die from shots to the leg
arctic moat
Bleed to death and be crippled? Sure
Totally sold on that one
idle bluff
Bullets break bones.
arctic moat
Yea
And then you cant walk
And are combat ineffective
But this game is saying that enough bullets to a limb that has no vital organs in it = death
sigh I guess it's the games mechanics
Let's hope arm and leg armor happens soon
near perch
Arteries are vital veins
idle bluff
To reiterate: the femoral artery. Usually when itâs severed the person bleeds out within a few minutes to an hour, depending on conditions.
Itâs not necessarily a vital organ but itâs the main leg artery.
idle bluff
Yes, people can die from an âoverloadâ of shock, for lack of a better term.
brisk mortar
It's because gamification of stats is required, and even if it doesn't kill you, you should go into shock and pass out regardless of the situation.
near perch
Ive heard of people dying in seconds due to leg artery damage
idle bluff
To avoid getting leg nuked
Basically either kill them first or hide your legs
Lean from corners, take waist-up cover, etc
Or shoot them in the face.
Other than that, you canât control where other people shoot
arctic moat
Mhm
Sadly in my situation I was passing through a doorway and was shot in the back of the leg
So I guess i was fuxked
Just kinda salty that I looted and sold and saved so I could buy such a load out just to lose it my first go with it because I got shot in the shins lol
idle bluff
Welcome to Tarkov, itâs hell.
brisk mortar
The issue is you wore it into Factory
You need to equip for the situations.
Your loadout is more a heavy Labs kit or Interchange kit
idle bluff
Yeah. Being a walking tank doesnât mean youâre invincible and carries the same burdens as an actual tank
Youâll move slower, have a greatly restricted vision, and your turning rate is heavily reduced
All of which make the relatively fast paced action of factory harder
Lessons learnt, I guess.
brisk mortar
Ideal loadout in Factory is a AK or AR pattern gun with the maximum mag size available to you, Gen 4 HMK, and maybe a Airframe or Fast MT with face shield.
idle bluff
If not those, a ZSH with faceshield and your volume blasted to fuck
Or no helmet, which has its own benefits and cons
arctic moat
have not considered this
brisk mortar
It's just like IRL m'dude
dress for the occasion
the Juggernaut loadout is cool in theory, but it's far too fragile in the grand scope of things.
arctic moat
soooo
the class 3 armor with m4 spray down tactic is the best option in most cases?
brisk mortar
No, Class 4+ with a large magazine as a backup. Spray and pray is only a viable strat at 50m -
Most of the time when I run a 60, I'm on semi auto
main compass
ok so, i just finially finished a raid without dying , but it says "early termination"
am i supposed to wait for the timer to run out before extracting or something
brisk mortar
Like, where does it say that, on the top? Or on the colored box in the bottom middle?
arctic moat
Class 4 meaning gen 4 assault kits right>
brisk mortar
No, as in Class 4 armor. Gen 4 is Class 5.
calm gate
Okay, so on the whole getting shot in the leg thing
There are a lot of really big blood vessels in there. You will bleed to death in seconds, not moments or minutes, if you where to take several hollowpoints to the legs. Immediate application of tourniquets followed by real medical attention might save your life, but this isn't something you'd be able to do yourself. The pain alone is enough to completely incapacitate you.
brisk mortar
Coming from someone that's been shot in the meat of the leg, I can second this.
calm gate
Yeah
Imagine (however much it hurt)
But all over because hollowpoints
And several times in quick succession.
Good fucking luck holding onto your gun, let alone shooting back, eating analgin tablets, or wrapping an antiseptic bandage on your arm to make it all better.
fathom dirge
@brisk mortar where did that happen and how did you survived, can you tell this story?
pine robin
can you use a pouch on a scav?
simple pendant
no
timber bolt
spray and pray is always viable
at any range
if you have a bad meta build, tap crouch before holding m1 for as long as you can
thanks to recoil auto-compensation mechanics, the game will walk in the shots for you
it's not really "pray" because full auto gets more accurate the longer you shoot
in tarkov
simple pendant
@timber bolt from where did you get that information?
timber bolt
what do you mean where did i get that info
it's easily verifiable ingame
i play tarkov somewhat regularly so stuff like this is what i've figured out
@simple pendant
simple pendant
I play the game also regulary and can´t confirm that at all
timber bolt
what can't you confirm
simple pendant
everything
timber bolt
that recoil auto-compensation mechanic exists?
ok
go into an offline mode and hold M1 at a wall
the game will pull the gun down automatically
simple pendant
but that is no mechanic XD
simple pendant
uhm no
timber bolt
uhm yes
knowing you, you probably won't even click on these
but it's for posteriety
so i can say
i was right, once again
here's a video i recorded myself
the auto-compensation is so shit you need to compensate for auto-compensation
via slamming your mouse down and back up again
well, is it a game mechanic or not
simple pendant
- using ads is not spray and pray, and it definitly won´t work on any distance.
- the first video doesn´t show recoil control skill + it was recorded before the wipe so weapons had even less recoil then
also modded weapon
try the same with recoil control 1 and a stock ak or m4 or whatever
timber bolt
i'm not arguing any of those things
my point is whether or not the game automatically compensates recoil for you
well - does it?
is recoil control skill and automatic compensation an intended game mechanic or not
reef spoke
Auto recoil comp is supposed to simulate the pmc "leaning into" the weapon as he fired , instead of just letting the muzzle climb , the character pushes the weapon down. ( which is debatable if that should even be a thing or not)
calm gate
Yeah, it's.. kinda iffy IMO
A lot of games sneak it in, though
Just usually by decreasing recoil as time goes on
Krunker.io's SMG class is a good example
Where your gun will be 100% stable for the last 10 rounds of a mag
reef spoke
I mean I can see it falling off to a point , but it's too aggressive atm imo
bold kernel
Yo, looking for someone to help show me the ropes, as I've only had the opportunity to play twice so far. Anyone down?
stoic halo
same as orphan
bold kernel
@stoic halo wanna pair up for now?
stoic halo
ye why not
split vapor
545 BS and 556 M995
418R 4$
each round is is same price
995 is slightly better by like overall 5%
@queen holly
reef spoke
Check nofoodadtermidnights ammo cart , then look for the pen section ( not on the quick ref page) you will see the actual pen chances for rounds
split vapor
Armor Effectiveness against
Caliber Name Damage Penetration Power Armor Damage Fragmentation Chance* Class 1 Class 2 Class 3 Class 4 Class 5 Class 6
5.45x39mm 5.45x39 mm BS 40 50 57 17% 6 6 6 6 6 5
5.45x39mm 5.45x39 mm 7N39 "Igolnik" 37 62 60 2% 6 6 6 6 6 6
5.56x45mm NATO 5.56x45 mm M995 42 53 57 32% 6 6 6 6 6 5
7.62x51mm NATO 7.62x51 mm M62 79 54 75 14% 6 6 6 6 6 5
7.62x51mm NATO 7.62x51 mm M61 70 68 83 13% 6 6 6 6 6 6
7.62x54mmR 7.62x54R SNB 75 62 87 8% 6 6 6 6 6 6
reef spoke
@split vapor I was referring to another tab , top of the doc, center tab.
split vapor
shh
You can find the 120 round boxes of BT and BS pretty commonly around interchange and stuff free ammo cant beat it
split vapor
what fucking ever nuks
just make a dmr style m4 and click heads
it just takes too many rounds in the chest to be effective
the Sops 2 yeah i have one
i do like the spectr scope on them
could always do a smg and a m4 dmr back up
meh
3m armor blocks warmage
calm gate
@timber bolt No, not only BP and BT
It also comes in
PP
PS
T
PRS
US
split vapor
well yes Bry, he asked for Ap ammo
timber bolt
sure, but BP and BT are the only ones you should be keeping an eye out for
timber bolt
and at this point in the wipe, neither are sufficient
calm gate
THey asked for AP ammo that pens L4 consistently which BP doesn't do
split vapor
yes but okay
reef spoke
Pp should be ap iirc but for some reason it's not in gmae
calm gate
@reef spoke PP is slightly AP. Like, it pens about as well as AP6.3
split vapor
listening to nuks
split vapor
timber bolt
especially when they get walked over, you check their gun, and they loaded their 74m with trash
calm gate
Ib4
Playing Factory with a TT
reef spoke
I mean I advise new players to avoid 5.45 at all cost or be prepared to mag dump.
calm gate
5.45 is not easyfun when you don't blap people in the head
split vapor
7n40 when bsg
reef spoke
after m118lr please
brisk mortar
Only after 30-30
brisk mortar
Only after .338 lap
calm gate
I just want
A 45-70 govt. revolver
split vapor
no u
calm gate
I mean
split vapor
.408 chey
calm gate
Does increasing recoil by 30% a patch count?
timber bolt
no
because all it did was promote magdumping even harder
and nerf semi and burst fire
recoil system itself in which tarkov is built on
is fundamentally flawed
the one thing that i've found on official forums, reddit, and here
is that people tend not to read what you wrote and make up a strawman about you and attack that instead
split vapor
its just trolling again dont bother engaging
timber bolt
yes, everyone who disagrees with you is trolling
calm gate
Shootemup hasn't said anything to contradict you
I never responded to a particular argument, so can't have been responding to a strawman argument
All I did was ask your opinion on overall recoil buffs
timber bolt
we all know what happens when i try to talk about flawed mechanics in the game
even a "sherpa" is somehow completely blissfully unaware of how recoil works in tarkov
even recommending semi-auto at long ranges, which is the exact opposite of what you should be doing
in any case, i'll elaborate further just for you brylyth
the 30% recoil increase was a net average across all guns
reef spoke
I mean, semi at long range is better than FA? Granted what are you considering long range?
timber bolt
but it punishes semi and burst firing even harder while leaving magdumps untouched
well, his "long range" was past 50m
but in any case at any long range i go prone and magdump
reef spoke
Nah that's still FA range with the current meta
reef spoke
accuracy by volume is effective.
timber bolt
my longest shot is 140m or so, that was done by letting lose 30+ bullets from prone
reef spoke
Anything passed 200 I'll say the FA stops being effective.
reef spoke
gen,
lets move the convo else where since this is begin chat
timber bolt
ok
inland shell
so i'm generally pretty good at shooters, but for the love of everything i just keep getting my ass kicked by high level people. even when i go in kitted with fort armor and a good helmet, i feel like i just get 2 shot by another player when it takes me a ton of bullets with an m4. is it skills thats making things difficult? im only level 9
tacit pond
hax
inland shell
but slowing isnt the issue
split vapor
yeah
tacit pond
sometimes they spot you early and wait for a headshot
split vapor
but you being level 9, im gonna point out youre most likely using bad ammo for this late into wipe
tacit pond
try to go low more
inland shell
whens next wipe?
steady pilot
!wipe
split vapor
gae
brisk mortar
@inland shell
If you want to avoid getting shot in the dick, just avoid high population routes, take your movement low and slow, and only take shots you are sure you can hit.
timber bolt
@inland shell multiple reasons
- your soft skills are unleveled, and high level players are just objectively better than you are in every single way
- "good" equipment should be level4/5 armor and m995/bs, if you have trash ammo you won't be able to pen high level armor until 45+ shots in
- they know maps, player spawns, and hotspots much better than you are, it's a pretty brutal learning process
- tarkov has many different mechanics to compress skill gap between mechanically skilled players to people who cannot aim with a mouse
inland shell
so i gotta get my ass kicked and basically not worth it buying full kits
timber bolt
eh.....
brisk mortar
Dress for the occasion my dude
timber bolt
personal recommendation: just buy mosin, 10 slot vest, and scav bp/mbss
start the game learning from interchange
generally speaking, the larger the map, the easier it is to learn because there's less margin for error
brisk mortar
Unless it's woods.
inland shell
i've been playing alot of shoreline
timber bolt
i don't consider shoreline to be a good map
inland shell
but i feel like thats peak zone where i just get fucked by fully kitted kids
timber bolt
it's wide open, yet small at the same time
yes, that tends to happen
resort is miniscule and honestly is just a blown up version of 3rd story customs dorms
brisk mortar
The value is too concentrated in shoreline to make it safe
Whereas in interchange there's loot all over an area bigger than the factory map
There are hotspots but their usually easily escapable save for Kiba
timber bolt
and hotspots don't offer substantially better loot compared to looting around the map
interchange is the only map like that
in fact, other than lab, interchange is the only map with a passably well designed layout
other than extracts but that's another story
brisk mortar
Because it could conceivably be a real building
inland shell
hmm okay thank you
usually my things for money are factory scavenging or playing shoreline and just farming scavs then dipping and when i try to do some real combat on customs or shorelines i get dusted
inland shell
@timber bolt whats your recommended budget armor/helmet?
timber bolt
mosin with 7n1 (flea market)
oh armor/helmet
uh
headset + face mask (momex, whatever)
headset + SSH '68 + press armor/gzhel
i don't know, low level is pretty fucked honestly, you don't have access to anything decent
just go naked with a headset, use mosin
@inland shell
inland shell
why headset?
timber bolt
hearing ranges are not made equal
current sound without headset is sound before when you wore a helmet
think of a headset as raid tax
you need to pay 13k minimum to enter a PMC raid
lol
inland shell
huh
timber bolt
ye
inland shell
maybe that explains why my hearing is off
timber bolt
yes
it's not your fault, it's the game
which is part of the reason i say that the game does its best to compress mechanical skill
inland shell
does it make it clearer or shit? because im always thinking shots are in front of me but its like so far away
timber bolt
yes
it makes it clearer
and makes certain sounds actually audible
good video, but somewhat outdated
they've rebalanced the sound profiles of the headsets since then
GSSH especially got nerfed into the dust
you sound like you're inside a plastic jug - but at least it does its job of making sounds play on your client
inland shell
and why facemask? @timber bolt
timber bolt
personal experience
no other color like PMC skin in the game
cover it up as much as you can
and don't play BEAR unless you're a chad - their arms are sleeveless
inland shell
uhh can you change character
reef spoke
Hunter with a pso might do him better than a mosin if he's new, rock m80 in it carry 3 mags total
timber bolt
don't worry about it - but do wear a facemask
he has experience in shooters before though
but yeah, hunter+m80 isn't a bad idea
buy the hunter off flea market
reef spoke
Fair , just a suggestion cus semi auto m308
inland shell
i do prefer scopes on the hunter, mosin scope is eh
reef spoke
Mosin takes some getting used to, I love the pu personally and place it in the top 3 scopes for my use.
timber bolt
i use ironsight mosin
probably the best irons in the game
if you use hunter, don't use its irons
they're the opposite
inland shell
also for recommendations, budget isnt an issue. idk if im super or lucky or not but i stay around a million rouples until i do some kitted runs and lose it all
timber bolt
oh
you're not doing too bad then
you tend to play more aggressively whether on accident or purposely
when geared
and aggression in tarkov outside of CQB is a huge no-no
someone can plunk down prone in the open and will always win fights in mid and far range
just magdumping
inland shell
honestly that could be it i've always been an aggressive player, usually i play super kitted out, and either lose to a player or kill someone nad die, and when i scav i just pick off.
timber bolt
yeah, don't play like that if you want to survive lol
you ever play apex legends?
and the constant third partying in that game?
inland shell
yeah apex/pubg/csgo
timber bolt
tarkov is apex's third party problem but substantially worse
since you literally cannot fight back
when you kill a player, fall back and wait a bit
inland shell
usually i strive off of doing stupid flanks and winning but clearly that doesnt work lol
timber bolt
yeah, doesn't work lol
for one, you can't fire while standing
two, huge defender advantages
three, tons of debuffs for getting shot at; way more than any other "realistic" shooter like squad, rs2, sandstorm
don't think of tarkov as a skill-based game
the skill curve is slower to MOBAs than any traditional FPS
it's all game knowledge and positioning rather than good aim
in fact the game even automatically compensates recoil for you, you just mouse in the general direction of the enemy and let the game decide for you
inland shell
really? it compensates for you?
inland shell
lay it on me
timber bolt
two quick videos
both of them showcase the power of the M1 hold and magdump
neither are compensating for recoil with the mouse, the first one does a bit and talks about it
inland shell
wow
timber bolt
do you feel tricked by tarkov's selling point as a hardcore realistic shooter yet
it has more arcade mechanics than any other shooter in its genre
most people aren't even aware because they don't even play the game that well
inland shell
damn dude recoil control is like the best part of playing a shooter
inland shell
both
timber bolt
do you remember crouch-only servers
and people defending bipod MGs with 3.4x scopes
saying it is tactical and realistic despite being neither
tarkov's community is basically that, if you look at tarkov official forums the posting quality is unironically worse than BF or activision forums
there are dozens of crutch mechanics in tarkov that are intentionally introduced to lower skill gap between players
timber bolt
well, since you bought the game and BSG officially doesn't give refunds
you might as well try to promote skill-based mechanics in tarkov lol
here or on the reddit
dim helm
Nunk, stop it
timber bolt
stop what
dim helm
Dont drive new players away with all your nonsense
timber bolt
has anything i've said been factually incorrect?
timber bolt
ok
brisk mortar
also point of fact, the CF C9 mounts a 1-4x Elcan
timber bolt
- soft skills are crutches that give objectively massive bonuses to players simply because they play more /grinded dozens of hours:
free painkillers + speed boost on blacked limbs: https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/7ns38g/psa_berserk_mode_is_working/ (i cannot find a video of this action, i've seen it before though)
no recoil: https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/bn1lrh/how_do_ar_and_recoil_control_skills_affect_spray/
- too many debuffs for getting shot at:
- loss of 20% stamina per hit
- screen blur for bullets whizzing nearby (cannot see who is shooting)
- bullet cracks are too loud and mask gunfire sound (cannot hear shooting direction)
- fracture mechanic (you are pinned in place and/or cannot aim back quickly)
- aimpunch on getting hit (this is an inherently anti-skill mechanic, hotly debated in many different games)
- screen distortion on getting hit (cannot see what you're shooting at, again)
- automatic recoil control will be tied to stamina in the future, stacking on -20% stamina loss per hit means it is another debuff for players getting shot at
timber bolt
- grind to win, low level players don't have access too good items and ammo without paying FM premiums
dim helm
also soft skills are good ebcause theyre not finished yet and because they are literally the hardest shit to fuckin level
timber bolt
name one game that stacks this many debuffs onto a player getting shot at
protip: you can't
yes
"hardest shit to level"
when robin here already has maxed recoil control and stress resistance
it's not hard, it's grindy
honestly, you know i'm right
you just can't take me criticizing your precious game lol
dim helm
No, its the fact that you criticize something that has been stated multiple times is WIP
it is grind,y but its also not gonna give you any benefits once its "done"
after .12 they are addressing the skills
timber bolt
incomplete and unfinished mechanics isn't a shield against any form of criticism
dim helm
Also recoil control doesnt give you as much of a buff as you think
its big, but not grind to win
timber bolt
i'm judging the game as it is, in current mechanics and implementation
i can't judge an apparently perfect game that exists only in your imagination
am i right? or am i right
are you going to pretend soft skills and crutch mechanics don't exist in the current form of tarkov?
again, am i factually wrong? i'm not, am i?
it's new player help channel
i help them learn core game mechanics that aren't conveyed to the player whatsoever
inland shell
what are some other good cheap guns to run as PMC?
pale shuttle
Is it normal to nope the hell out of the match immediately on a scav run when you pull an HK416 and an M4 out of your first two boxes with no backpack
timber bolt
mosin and hunter, mainly
gunfight meta in tarkov is big bullet or magdump
there's no inbetween
magdumps are the opposite of budget so just go with big bullet
timber bolt
fun fact: it costs 66 800 rubles to fire my M4 for 12 seconds
dim helm
Watching people sprint away in terror once you leg them from 200 meters away is hilarious 
it costs 100 thousand dollars to fire this weapon for six seconds
timber bolt
yes, that's the joke i was referencing
dim helm
Fuckin now imagine my HK
900rpm
m995
Im literally firing money
very deadly money*
actually 850rpm
why do m4s and 416s have the same fire rate now what
am I going nuts
I swear the m4 hzad 850 and the hk had 900
now its 800 and 850
inland shell
whas a cheap long range scope?
timber bolt
mosin or pso
i personally don't use scopes because they tank fps
for hunter, a cobra or tt1000 mount + 1x optic are great
inland shell
alright so last question or just one of them, are headsets considered just mandatory?
vast granite
omg
anyone here wanna carry me to get keys...keep getting jumped by groups
i'm 3days old
vast granite
hey guys everytime i pick up the watch from the truck in custom
it disappears
i dont see it in my inventory
vast granite
ahhh got it thx
arctic moat
okay so i took your guys's advice on my kit from last nights shit show
before i deploy with this big loot to the solo factory gunshow, rate this kit
wide iris
if you only have 10k i would risk it like that
plus at factory you are better off with armors that cover the stomach
2 drum should also be enough
i carry 2 drum (one in gun) and 4 pmags
arctic moat
I did a scav raid a while ago so my money is fixed, but you say that if I play it smart with this I should be okay (unless a mosinling sees of course)
arctic moat
so after killing a bunch i lagged out in the middle of a firefight and apparently somone shotgunned my leg to death
arctic moat
feels bad đŚ
calm whale
hello , does recoil controll skill help witjh semi auto weapons like sks vepr or adar?
simple pendant
It should
calm whale
oook thanks
arctic moat
i have about 30 hrs or os
narrow pasture
yea mate im new too but its bad to go factory with that much loot idk i would go on customs or shoreline to get loot n pvp
factory is for pvp only
arctic moat
right
i was killing everything save for these 2 nakeds who i just kinda agreed to keep alive when i was holding an angle and i dsconnected
narrow pasture
and you wasted all your money just go scav runs
arctic moat
Who wants a labs card for 300k
narrow pasture
@arctic moat how did you waste all your money im intrested
arctic moat
i bought some really high tier loot and lagged out in a fire fight
narrow pasture
try the flea market
arctic moat
thats where i get my shit
narrow pasture
not the scamming pepa guy and peacekeepre
arctic moat
hmmm
i think its time i pop the training wheels off and go to interchange, been to shorline a few times but snipers are cancer there
30 hrs is more than enough for me to figure that i know what im doing
narrow pasture
are you EU or NA
arctic moat
i bought it last night, hope its good
ruby cipher
anyone wanna play ?
ruby cipher
soz broooooooo
bold kernel
looks a bit expensive for my taste at 1mil. what is your mission
try putting a wt rig in ur gamma too
mortal basin
@wide iris y grizzly and ifac?
timber bolt
bring a stack of 60 m995 inside your rig
have a spare 60rder and 1 30rder
i've never needed to use more than that
missing a nade
and your m4 stock sucks
viral mantle
so like i cant even update my game its telling me there is a patch but i press updrate and nothing happens
nvm it just took 5 mins
neat grove
Go slow, but dont stay still
avoid being in the open unless neccesary
Dont be afraid to lose any gear
split vapor
labs
neat grove
not the access card
viral mantle
i bought on the flea market for 300k do i have to rebuy it everytime or do i know have access
neat grove
you need a access card every time
neat grove
Shroreline and interchange is good
Kill players/loot the rare item spawns and buy stuff
ruby cipher
@neat grove do you play with people here sometimes?
neat grove
Yea
ruby cipher
Can u hit me up tommorow with my first lab run đ
neat grove
Probably,
neat grove
its a good kit
ruby cipher
I can't wait for tommorow then. đ
My lvl may disturb you but Im goooood I promise
neat grove
Im a sherpa, I play with level 1-5 often
ruby cipher
I'm 10 đ
plucky goblet
Activate Windows
ruby cipher
Shhhh đ¤Śââď¸đđ
@plucky goblet I don't know how that is there.... đ
Anyways how effective is just killing raiders after opening the gate and then extracting?
ruby cipher
@neat grove should I rather sign up to sherpa to play with you or just ask you personally tommorow?
timber bolt
neat
ruby cipher
Ok I'm Gonna sign up. @@neat grove fuck I kinda don't understand the times ur ment to put in but okay.
neat grove
the times dont matter
ruby cipher
Just ignore the fact that I put 2 and 0 as times. Anyways ima go sleep now so cya tommorow around 3 or 4 UK time!
grim escarp
For the punisher part one quest. My friend wants to know if the vepr counts toward that quest.
grim escarp
I mean the vepr akm
neat grove
Yea it dosent count
split vapor
vepr no go
grim escarp
ok thanks
split vapor
akmn slap on pso and suppressor
inland shell
whats the benefit to doing quests besides cheaper purchases
chilly trench
xp and money
reef spoke
@inland shell Nothing aside from cheaper purchases from trader.
XP and money I suppose.
OH! And the Epsilon and Kapa
inland shell
hm ok ty
vast granite
hey guys key still spawn in factory locker room? i been at it forever
broken tundra
do npcs ever stop spawning?
zenith mountain
^ Id also like to know but I was under the impression they all spawned at once and played scavs come in at different times.
broken tundra
all i know is its almost impossible to loot
zenith mountain
Itâs tricky, some bigger maps arnt too bad
broken tundra
ive really only messed in factory
zenith mountain
They donât keep spawning in same locations though
Yeah thatâs tough to start
Customs is best beginner map
broken tundra
oh damn
zenith mountain
Hears you
cobalt cipher
guys
is it normal for people to sit like this in labs for ten minutes
I was in a solo raid and they sat there for 10 minutes
plucky goblet
as normal as going there only using a pistol
cobalt cipher
I got keycards
lots of em
like 7
anyways
I died
I killed both of them
xDDD
theu were fightning someone else , they trew a flash in 1 got naded killed him and the other one died from the other side , I was like ez loot until I went out of my nice spot and I died the same way as purple backpack
pastel minnow
i have a question
between these 3 quests
which one do i choose to complete
like which one is best
plucky goblet
chemical pt 4 gives you a good helmet in black that costs less than its green version
id say skier, thats what i chose
but its up to you
pastel minnow
yeah but then you have to make it up to therapist and prapor right?
for therapist you will have to give a checkpoint key and 3 other keys
and prapor 10 m67 grenades
plucky goblet
prapor wants 10 m67 nades
pastel minnow
yeah
plucky goblet
yes
pastel minnow
skier wants 1 mil roubles
plucky goblet
but you got enough tasks to get all on level 4
split vapor
Yeah donât do trust regains tasks
reef spoke
They spawn in waves based on the total amount of scavs alive iirc , woods for example. If one side of the map is cleared out and one is not the ai will repopulate the cleared are ar x time.
tropic snow
does the PMC pistol kills include even teammates?
split vapor
Nope not sense like 0.7 or so
tropic snow
dang no reason to ask for volenteers then đ
split vapor
You can
all go one server but dont join a group together and all drop at once
plus people wont do it for free majoirty of the time
tropic snow
seems like just as much hassle to stock up on APS
split vapor
makarov and factory
reef spoke
shrip + factory = done
or just have a secondary and use it when you can.
main compass
Is it worth holding on to a couple of 74Us for backup?
I have some other 74s, an AKM, and an SKS
neat grove
https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/sherpa @hollow breach
you request them and they will message you
hollow breach
Thanks man, appreciate it.
inland shell
is there a way to prevent all the debuffs that happen when you get hit? like a consumable?
bold kernel
The main debuff being crippled legs I guess? pain killer restores mobility but it hurts you to run.
reduces tremors and I think coughing and such.
The grizzly med bag will repair a lot of things but pain killer is the most combat relevant usually.
inland shell
i feel like whenevr im getting shot at my screen goes all hazy my character is bobbing up and down and everyone else seems fine when im spraying at them
bold kernel
Ah suppression?
inland shell
yes
bold kernel
bullet impacts I think throw your aim a little too. I get that also.
I don't think there is a cure. I usually just try to be the first one to shoot. Lately I practiced hip fire and it helps me blindly shoot back fairly well.
inland shell
ah so i just have to get used to it?
bold kernel
For the blury suppression yea. if you get a crippled leg you will limp witch will bob you up and down.
Pain killer can help with that. taken before a fight if possible.
running out of stamina or holding breath too long while ADS can make the bobbing happen to.
inland shell
speaking of legs, how viable is shooting legs first as a strategy? i feel like my legs always get popped
bold kernel
Depends on ammunition I think. If you can penetrate the armour your against. head is always best. if not. legs are a safe backup but take alot of hits.
!ammo
tribal robinBOT
Official ammo table for Escape from Tarkov :
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l_8zSZg-viVTZ2bavMEIIKhix6mFTXuVHWcNKZgBrjQ/htmlview?sle=true
might be a better chart pinned.
I'm using this atm cuz it's clean
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jjWcIue0_PCsbLQAiL5VrIulPK8SzM5jjiCMx9zUuvE/htmlview?sle=true#
inland shell
thank you @bold kernel
safe swift
I'm going to ask this question again because I'm still curious, regarding hitboxes: is there only one universal hitbox for every piece of armour and helmet, or does the actual model of said piece of armour actually reflect what'll it'll absorb and not?
viral mantle
what is a keytool worth do you guys think?
im trying to organize my stash but since i have the cheaper version i have a smaller one
bold kernel
key tools going 700k+
I think it's one treated like two? if you got penetration damage can go right through armour to your head. there is fragmentation chance as well which idk if it ignores or stacks damage on target... wiki might have proper details.
timber bolt
@safe swift inspect each piece of armor, what it says it'll protect are the zones it'll protect
for vests: thorax, stomach, arms
for helmets: top, nape, ears, jaw
some may protect all of those will others can only protect one
reef spoke
safe swift
@timber bolt I mean, is thorax/stomach/ears the same shaped hitbox for every different armour, or can we actually use the physical model for the helmet to determine exactly what the bullet will hit. Know what I mean?
timber bolt
same shaped hitbox for every armor @safe swift
safe swift
Really? D:. So even though the mobility Redut armour has that groin flap. It's just for show? It's got the same coverage as a paca?
timber bolt
just nunk
@safe swift groin flap is just for show, iirc groin is just part of stomach hitbox
safe swift
oof
neat grove
Yea it is
safe swift
I want my groin flap
lament sandal
setup up with a group of friends and do some tasks
timber bolt
you can do it depression!!!!!
jusdt dont'
play on customs or factory
there's shitpits designed so higher geared players absolutely wreck lower geared players
make money and learn maps (preferably interchange) via scav runs
i strongly recommend mosin+LPS as your weapon of choice among low level traders
if you don't trust your aim, hunter+m80 works too (make sure you use an optic)
olive socket
sec
sullen totem
Hunter + OKP-7 + M80
or
Hunter + Tactica Tula TT01 + Holographic sight + M80
is usually my go to on easier maps
hits like a truck and is relatively cheap + Semi-Auto!
forest saddle
ty! @sullen totem @timber bolt
might use sherpa too just to get sum tips while in game
west pilot
Can someone share me which armor materials breaks faster in an orderly fashion?
simple pendant
@hot slate easy, run around and loot everything youcan get your hand on
@west pilot ceramic > rest
hot slate
there are more things to it to make it more efficient and less boring :^)
you have the right idea tho ahahahaha
west pilot
is it ceramic > aramid > ultra lightweight polyethylene > armor steel > combined materials?
is this the right order?
hot slate
i don't think theres a particular order they break down in, the different materials have an impact on the reparability of the armor @west pilot
i think aramid or steel has the best repair %
simple pendant
Price and the amount of degradation is the main difference
When you repair a ceramic from 0 you lose more than twice the max durability compared to most other materials
main raft
can someone help me with a beginners mosin loadout?
simple pendant
@main raft you take a mosin and some ammunition in the pockets
If you think you will enter short range, get a paca
main raft
ty
pastel comet
I found an antique book, should I sell it or keep it for the task? I haven't really been paying attention to the tasks but I heard that this book is pretty hard to come by
split vapor
if you want the kappa case keep it
plus no one will buy it because they all need to be found in raid anyways
pastel comet
ah you're right, guess I should start actually doing the tasks now
split vapor
ha kappa bad: its just a hatchlings dream
split vapor
chrissy go away
pastel comet
I mean I just have the alpha container so yeah I kinda want the kappa lol
land
plucky goblet
nah
pastel comet
would the other one be better? the epsilon or whatever its called?
split vapor
alpha,beta,epsilon,gamma,kappa and then the unreleased omicron
pastel comet
jesus omicron sounds like a transformer
low chasm
unicron
viral mantle
how do i invite my friend to a labs run if they dont have a card
i was told only one person needs a card
plucky goblet
all of you need one
steady raven
whats/hows the best way to get better helmets?
split vapor
Level up ragman
hollow breach
Is skier not better?
humble cave
Skier sells no gear anymore for over a year now
hollow breach
My bad I thought he meant selling too, not buying from
amber fiber
is it rare to spawn with terragroups lab keycard as a scav?
hollow breach
Pretty rare yes, you can sell it on flea market for about 150k
hollow breach
Depends really you can only buy one every therapist reset so people pay big money
Do you have therapist level 2?
@amber fiber
hollow breach
Ahh ok, well when you get therapist level 2 you can buy a labs card every 3 hours for 115k, but you can then sell it for 150-60k if you donât intend to use it or if you need money.
split vapor
Yeah smart people donât buy a key card over 160
broken quailBOT
https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Items_case
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page cases for a direct link or !wiki search cases for a list of all hits.
amber fiber
thanks
humble cave
@neat grove it's a redirect now
broken quailBOT
steady raven
I've seen streamers do it, how do you change the reticle on a sight like a red dot? And is it only for certain sights?
steady raven
Are those the only ones?
steady raven
Alright thanks
plucky goblet
P1X too
split vapor
Oh that trash too
raw crystal
i've been looking in med bags for like 2 days and i found one
bold kernel
scav boss groups almost guarentee it if you really want...
cunning carbon
is there a way to split stacks of ammo?
bold kernel
ctrl drag
cunning carbon
thanks
dapper sandal
Anyone want to carry a scrub
timber bolt
scav xp goes into your scav
your scav xp is persistent, if you open skills tab during scav runs you can see
plucky jetty
Do The lab keycards only spawn at one place?
spiral dirge
turbid panther
Do you know what kind of magazine SKS Uses?