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^for the record that is not for phishing. they all redirect to my personal website
You could also be a good Samaritan and have them all redirect to tryhackme.com
okay fine but I want to keep .nl
Meh, better than nothing 🤷♂️
done 
and suddenly lau uses tryhackme.nl to do writeups for tryhackme.com
hello shadow
did you make that pixel art yourself? 👀
no it was a paid commission.... and sadly the artist is not making any more commissions currently
i love it
yeah it is really nice and absolutely worth the price shadow paid for it considering how often they use it
Aw, how nice of you! 
Do anti cheats look for RDP?
Just finished “h4cked” was really fun, but it could’ve also been fun if the attacker patched after themselves and we had to use their patch against them or something
anyways, it was very enjoyable :)
ghidra vs cutter (r2 or the thing we don't put on pizza) and why
Haven't used cutter, I mainly use gdb-pwndbg or peda with ghidra for a high level overview.
Cutter is good, it uses ghidra's decompiler
Cutter multiplatform
ur talking about the new fork then,
how about the radare2 fork?
The old fork that used r2 still integrated ghidra's decompiler...
Cutter is now based on rizen or whatever but that changes absolutely nothing
changed the .nl one as well in before I get sued
..again 
Again 
is this like the quiet carriage? 😂
question for the informed ones
which one is better ?
ettercap and mitm the whole subnet, but only for a short timeframe to prevent DoS
or
bettercap alongside targeting only machines you need
?
I'd say targeted is always better
anyone know if theres a list of standard linux services that run with the S perm flag, and are therefor not a security issue?
Also they are not services.
you are of course correct, and also a pedant 😛
awww baybeee
Please tell me if there’s a better channel for this. Just wondering if people have tips of mobile-only learning resources to fill some dead time when you don’t have your main driver. Could be an app, a short blog or other. No audio. Personally focused on the pentest track.
cybrary, some books
I run IOS but looking to switch back to android soon so for either OS is nice
Hello, what are the study room voice channels for? are they accessible to non-subscribers too?
it's open for everyone & you can join to chill with peoples while doing some CTFs / study together
thanks @radiant jacinth
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hmm whats S perm flag?
Technically? SUID/SGID without the executable bit (making it useless)
I suspect they mean the s (lowercase) flag
Which is SUID/SGID
Either way, there is no reason to give a service executable SUID ot SGID as the user account and group to run as are specified in the service file @static otter
passwd Is designed to run that way
I must admit I didn't mean service I just brain farted and ment command in general
In essence I'm trying to come up with a list of usual suspects when I search for misconfiguration so I can remove them
ohhh thaaanks man
Easy solution?
Create a VM using your target OS and just look at what has it by default.
It would be the case if I was targeting one specific box
I'm probably going to start a git repo list that I'll add to. Sucks that there's not already one tho
It's honestly pretty standard across most *nix systems. Most Linux distros have a few small differences, but you learn to catch them by eye and just see what's unusual and what isn't from experience.
like when you check for suid files, certain things are supposed to have it, so you learn to exclude those by experience and notice the "unusual" files
I dont know if this is an every-year thingy, but I was doing this room called 'advert of cyber 2020', just wanna know if there'll be a similar thing for this Christmas?
wow, thanks!
(welp, didn't scroll down enough)
Discord does that
why is the voice channel locked?
I take it you haven't read through #start-here then? 😄
oh thanks i didn't notice that😅
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Np 
how does that kinda bug even happen
"For some reason, an i386 version of a package was never published on Launchpad. Steam being an i386 package, when trying to install it, it had to downgrade that package to the Ubuntu version to resolve dependencies, which removed Pop!_OS packages.".
@gamingonlinux @stephanlachnit For some reason, an i386 version of a package was never published on Launchpad. Steam being an i386 package, when trying to install it, it had to downgrade that package to the Ubuntu version to resolve dependencies, which removed Pop!_OS packages.
that article is great for pointing out the finger pointing
I think this video raises some interesting points too
There is a lot of drama right now in the Linux community involving various Linux desktops, including: GNOME, Budgie and Pop OS's Cosmic desktop. The Linux desktop was so good about 12 years ago. How did we get into the shape that we are in now? And why is the Linux desktop so fragmented right now?
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he talks a lot of crap about gnome3, and loves KDE plasma, but the most unreliable DE experiences I've had have been KDE plasma. gnome may not be perfect, but it's a LOT more stable. I've been running gnome on my work laptop for close to 2 years, my problems have been BT and audio drivers, not gnome.
The biggest upcoming issue that's going to enrage the neckbeards is the move from xorg to wayland - it's going to happen, and it probably won't be painless
Yeah, I don't really have an opinion either way. I just use what's given to me
Linus broke his popOS because of this lol
good. Wayland is better
I used to hop between DE's and I think I've tried most of them until one day I installed cinnamon on kali Linux and never looked back, its the perfect balance of eye candy , good UX out of the box and easily/extensively customizable ,what's not to love ?
Yes this is why the memes exist
Yes
I still pity him for not checking the terminal and reading stuff in his screen
I wrote my practice English essay today as an exam with low weight. ended up with 350 words with a maximum of 250
I don't understand how someone can write an entire essay in 250 words
What was the essay type?
It was a plea with title, intro, body (3 arguments) and a conclusion, about filthy comments on social media
I could easily hit a thousand words on that
Yeaah exactly
I would add the Mike Tyson Quote.
you have to learn to be succinct and concise
get straight to the point and remove all the fluff
hello guys what certifications do you recommend for me to take after the eJPT
what certifications do you have? whats your overall goal?
i currently posses the eJPT and i took the A+ course and the CEH course but didnt get the certificates
my overall goal is pentesting and get some knowledge on blue team/forensics
also i need a good certificate that is recognized and can help me with my freelance career but not very expensive
OSCP is recognized, depends how you define expensive but it won't be enough to freelance unless you already have experience otherwise
Do you have a lawyer to consult for freelance pentesting?
I can easily hit 150. Would be a struggle for me to hit 200 but I could do it if I had a week or two
I had 50 minutes
OSCP is really great but i feel its a bit expensive idk maybe its just from my pov
nope i started freelance not long ago on upwork
well honestly, there is no other cert that would meet your qualifications
reason juun asked about lawyer is generally you want someone aware of laws to look over your contract as you can end up in trouble
if your contract isn't specific enough, you could go out of what your customer feels is out of bounds
Retain an attorney
Without having that legal counsel, you are opening yourself up to a lot of potential risk. The contract itself, the systems you are engaging, all need to checked out before beginning any engagement.
Unless you're intimately familiar with contract law and other regulations, you're going to "get got" at some point. When that happens it's going to be you vs the company as Zojja and Juun said
Ah okay thanks a lot for telling me about this, because i started new to freelancing and there aren’t that many sources about what to do or how to stay careful from these type of things
i know that before starting any pentest there is an engagement between me and the client that specifies exactly what to test and what are the boundaries
specially to not cause any damage to the system itself
Very very important. And yes, you'd need to have that as a contract.
You'll also need insurance
Thanks a lot guys for putting me into the image
In addition to legal representation
Like big money insurance
Even a small company (eg freelancee) could cause a lot of damage and get sued
accidentally bringing down a backend db or auth mechanism could result in an outage that costs more than than you'd make on 10 engagements
Yeah ik that, i tried finding info like this online but couldnt really find anything that goes into detail but after this i will have to put a pause on freelance until i sort everything out
Yeah i forget the specific insurance type, the name it slipping my mind
contract needs to specify potential damages and risks, and what risk acceptance process should look like for both sides
damn man, the cybersec/hacking industry really need to be careful in these situations
Yes. That's the point all of us are trying to get across.
One of the most sensitive professions if not done correctly
yes and its great that there are communities made so we can all help eachother out
thats the thing i love about cybersec everyone’s constantly looking out for eachother
and "getting got" here may land you jail time
No way I could do more than 100 words in 50 minutes😫
what does getting got mean
It's the future tense of got got
The appropriate definition for this use is getting in trouble with guaranteed punishment
There's other slang but not for here
does someone need to gab=ve legal counsel to start with penetration testing or just can start on bug bounty programs directly
main main goal is penetration testing and bug hunting , can someone guide me for the same as i am a beginer currenlty i am doing ore security path on try hackme and PEH on TCM
Usually, you would do pentesting through a company as an employee.
You'd need legal counsel to run your own company etc
Remember that bug bounty is not stable income
okok
Never thought I'd say it, but damn I want to go to school
In 6 days I haven't been to school for 24 months
like 3 times, probably
time went by quick 
well thats sounds like a lot...
i can relate despite i havent been to school for a less long time
ikr!
Pivot means using one machine to access another
A lateral priv sec is gaining access to a different account with a similar level of privilege on the same machine in general
Though I suppose if you get a user account on a different machine it could also be a lateral priv esc
I would say that’s still no different, I’d say a pivot is only privesc if it’s for the purpose of privesc
All semantics I suppose, just my thought
a pivot is specifically using a machine to access another
priv esc aside
but yeah we're saying the same thing 🙂
Yeah we are hehe
Thank you 🙂
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- Pivot: using one network device as a jumpbox to access otherwise inaccessible devices from your own box
- Lateral Privesc: moving between two accounts with the same level of permission (locally or AD)
- Lateral Movement: Moving between two target devices (usually in AD).
So a pivot can be used for the purposes of lateral movement, although it isn't usually necessary as most C2 frameworks can just chain agents.
That's mostly what I said ;)
Despite how right someone else is Muiri’s input just relaxes me more idk man
Appreciate it once again Muir 😄
Creator of python himself could declare Muir wrong and I would go “but is he really though? Who are you anyways🤨”
is there a site dedicated to tools to drop on target systems
like winpeas but other stuff like a portable scanner etc?
No but there's plenty of static binaries out there
Whether you can trust precompiled code is a different question
Hello, im just a beginner that needs a little bit of help. Can someone tell me why when i try scanning with Nmap while connected to a VPN (IpVanish in my case) it says that Using raw sockets because ppp0 is not an ethernet device. This probably won't work on Windows.
Ok, why are you scanning over that VPN?
Security ?
How does scanning over that VPN relate to security?
Hides my IP address wich is the source of the scan
Why does that matter?
I dont want the other guy to see that im scanning his device
Why not?
He may think im doing something bad
To me, it sounds like you're scanning something that you shouldn't be. Are you?
No
🤔
Then why does it matter if they know?
Its a machine of a hosting company
Do you have explicit permission to test in the form of a legal contract?
You should not be enumerating public facing companies unless you have strict access
Or any company
My friend is the owner
Of what?
You're doing something unethical for certain. Please stop. Get a legal contract before doing anything. As much for your own safety.
Don't scan without explicit permission.
I know that. But is there any way of scanning over VPN ?
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Unfortunately that's not how it works here
soo?
@burnt night can u tell me pls?
Tell you what?
Eventful morning already ninja ☠️
umm how to join staff team here?
You mean discord staff or tryhackme staff?
discord
☠️
Discord staff are selected from the community. They're not selected from people who ask, in fact if you ask to be staff you're practically disqualified from ever being staff.
ohk
It does kinda put you on my veto list 😆
That sounds dangerous
The two energy drinks is the dangerous part. Dosages that high in the US aren't uncommon
I'm new to cyber security and really wanna read a book, any recommendations?
thank you!
ello
anytime
I am new to hacking but I have a good background of programming, I kinda need a roadmap, any ideas?
Depends on what pathway u wanna go
What specifically interests you etc etc
If you don’t know, I suggest you try everything
you'll already have some knowledge but this site goes over a good foundation https://github.com/DFIRmadness/5pillars/blob/master/5-Pillars.md
Did they...
Did they actually just tell you to forward all UDP ports to the switch..?
Really?
Oh Lord. I wonder if Nintendo do bug bounty
They historically have
Certainly for the switch
Whose brilliant idea was it to have regular customers forward all UDP ports to a single IP address?
Like, I'd expect the switch to not be vulnerable to anything (touch wood, fingers crossed), but that still seems exceptionally dumb
Whose brilliant idea was to name a connected device Switch 🙂
I also think their games use hard-coded ports
One of my room-mates has a switch that couldn't do any online play unless I enabled static port in OPNSense which prevents the firewall from changing the source port between receiving the packet for the hop and sending it back out
So what I'd assume is their services are just made to fire back packets on a set port and don't take into account what the source port of the original packet came in on
I massively prefer the code name: 'Nintendo NX'
"I'm just gonna go forward some ports from the router to the switch. BRB!"
How to confuse a network engineer 101
Took me a moment to decipher when they originally said that "something is throttling the network between the switches"
what does threads mean in terms of gobuster? whats to stop me from using 10000 threads and finish a scan in 3 seconds? I have noticed i get a plethora of errors going above 200 threads but..why?
client timeout while awaiting headers is the error i notice when going above 200 threads ish
In general, threads are sort of sub processes. In terms of gobuster every additional thread is an additional interaction with the website. Using 4 threads will allow you to run through your wordlist 4 times faster. However, at a certain point, either your device or the server won't be able to handle all the connections (its usually the server) and either it'll start moving so slow that your requests time out or it'll crash entirely
Thank you for the in depth reply 😄
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Np. If you want a better understanding of threads vs processes you can take a look at this video. It's short but it explains it pretty well
Check out the full Advanced Operating Systems course for free at: https://www.udacity.com/course/ud189
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I’ll watch it right now thank you again
- Go to /etc/locale.gen
- Un-comment the line that correspond to the layout you want
- Comment the old one
- Save + Exit & do
sudo locale-gen
it should be good
I'd think the device would crash out first. Server CPUs are usually pretty beefy
Huh, isn't a process below a thread?
Which is why multiprocessing is better than threads for performance
Threads are lightweight processes, but the CPU can only support so many at once
Multiprocessing abuses scheduling on a limited number of threads
Especially when there are a lot of idle periods in an operation, is waiting for a response
For cpu-intensive loads, multiprocessing is not much better than threading, possibly a bit less overhead
I am interested In actually hacking like white hat of course but I am interested in being in action
Good point
'Threads' are also context sensitive to the language being used. A 'thread' in Go is a concurrent action, not necessarily a thread in the same sense as in C++. The reason you see a speed increase with 400 Go threads (and you probably won't see an increase in C, C++ or Python) is because 'concurrency' means a different thing in Go than it does in C++.
At least, out of the box with the language-native tooling. Setting up a producer-consumer work division system in C++ threads would be closer to the goroutine model, but still not quite the same construct.
Go "threads" are more like coroutines no?
That's my understanding
They are more like concurrent building blocks, and the programmer gets little to no control over their actual execution
In the java world it would be more like what Vert.X does
Or scala actors
Or probably kotlin coroutines as well
Should try making a buster type application see how it goes compared to gobuster
Or at least a traditionally threaded app
Ha
can i how to use kali linux without installing the os and not using the vmware or box
I guess it's possible to use a live cd/dvd/usb
oooo
why don't you want to use vmware ?
I can't confirm at the moment, but isn't there a Kali VM you can install from the Windows store (assuming you're running Windows)?
That's WSL(1/2)
Not exactly a VM, and certainly not as versatile
Yeah, I looked at it when it first came out, and it looked like they were having issues with the KDM GUI. Still better than dual booting off of a live flash drive, although I guess if you can't install anything (shared/locked down PC), then a live USB might be best.
What about docker?
why
also to any spanish people here, is celular actually used in conversation? or do you just use telefono? because cellphone is not really used in english anymore
in Spain, yes
I mean lots of text I've gone through and talked to with my teacher, celular is used
móvil is popular though
actually I might've gotten that switched, celular may be more South America, but I used to read a variety of texts/listen to various audios
is this duolingo? 
is it okay to ask if someone here knows any resources for how to use binwalk to extract a jffs2 (and also maybe squashfs) file system?
Yes it is
okay well does anyone have any advice on using binwalk to extract jffs2 filesystems?
yassss
Do you genuinely not know why? Or are you just showing it?
Their answer is correct compared to yours
i don't know why mine wasn't accepted
Because you use la and an -a
In Spanish the male is always dominant, so if a gender isn’t specified then it’s o and el
I wonder
Does duo lingo actually teach you tenses or do they just expect you to pick it up?
because there can be some weird rules
This is also sadly true in French
that's also good to know when i learn french too 😅
Does anyone know if there's a tool that is able to detect steganography on multiple files (in a folder)?
For future reference if someone asks about a jffs2 file binwalk extraction there is a THM room for dumping firmware
cd myFolder && stegoveritas *

Ok thanks BAHAHA I genuinely had no clue so I was going to allow someone more knowledgeable to answer
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what do you guys use as primary os? I'm having a bad time distrohopping for that just works perfect distro here any recommendation
Windows with Linux VMs
Linux w linux VMs
@queen owl Depends on what I'm doing. Most of my work stuff is hosted on a cluster running enterprise-like hypervisor as a host for VMs. My work gives me complete freedom for my work lappy, so I run F35 there. My personal desktop is the only windows machine in my house, and it hosts a couple of playing around VMs. I have another personal dev machine that runs Ubuntu LTS and a couple more VMs for dev related activities
I need to get a personal dev machine because dev work on windows is sad
Windows as main OS & some school dev on Debian 11 ( One VM for laptop & desktop, never dual-booting )
Hey folks, sorry to interrupt conversation. I'm looking for a good file-sync program that is both frequent and has a desktop client for Windows & Ubuntu/Debian. I have two copies of a VM across two hosts that I need to maintain an up-to-date versions of files across the VMs and both hosts.
I used to self-host Nextcloud which I think will do the trick for what I need, however, I don't really want to fork out any more money to self-host. Any ideas?
Why not store the files on one and mount the drive as an SMB share on whatever else?
Rsync over SSH might also work Unix -> Windows 🤷♂️
Networking limitations
I got nothing then 🤷♂️
If you can't network it then you're gonna struggle a bit
I can network over internet np but no port forwarding and no discovering other hosts afaik
I think Nextcloud might be only option
Something like ZeroTier maybe?
I just hate having to plug-in a USB on one machine, copy files over to it from a VM and then plug it into my desktop and copy to a shared folder on there and vice versa all the time
I second that
Do I need to port forward for zero tier?
Nah -- just run the service on any relevant clients
I.e. I go to uni, work on labs and then come home and have to copy stuff over 4/5 times and make sure I have the most up to date on each
Sounds like you need a cloud solution. Would it make sense for you to do something like the AWS workspace vm?
either that, or VPN back home so you can VNC into your VM
^^^
Honestly just using a single VPS w/ remote access options from anywhere 🤷♂️
Halls will limit that
Yeeee
I’ll just fork out for another vps I think
It’s worth saving me the hassle
That way I can use Nextcloud, have cross platform and web app too
Wait
If Nextcloud is an option
Why not just Google Drive / Mega / something along those lines?
Mine didn't fwiw
It’s an option but I will have to spend more money monthly
Eduroam is now blocking openvpn though for me
Halls let you portforward to a VPN server in your room?
Connect to a VPN server
Cross platform issues plus I’ve always had issues with file extensions being incompatible / janky
Puts you on the same network ezpz
Now that is interesting.
My Wireguard VPN server at home can be reached through Eduroam
That's how I work most of the time at uni
I've only tried the THM VPN
Interesting
I just use attackboxes when in uni
It's easier anyway
I don't have the luxury of attackboxes for my work ahaha
I pretty much thought that just buying another box and running nextcloud would be only solution so I think I'll just go with that
thanks y'all ((:
Wait. @burnt night I definitely managed to connect to THM in a Kali VM on my laptop from uni a while back
appreciate your comments
Me too
Like, three weeks ago
Might try it again from a different room
Was in the uni library at the time, will try a classroom
So due to limitations SFTP isn't an option right?
I was just quickly reading through and thought of Filezilla but I haven't read everything yet
If I host the SFTP somewhere else I.e. the cloud yeah
But then I still have to upload and download things
I just want it to sync automatically 😄
Probably nextcloud then unless you want to fork out for something like Dropbox or drive
im a tad confused as to what is going on but very interested
can someone pretend to explain to a 12 year old pls
wait nevermind is it just ben is having vpn issues and muir and james are confused as to why, is that it
Not even remotely 😆

Ben needs a way to sync files between two VMs -- one in his halls of residence, one at university. Halls have restrictive wireless access that you can't port forward into, so no setting up VPN servers or public SMB (unwise anyway), etc
oohh noted noted
will hamachi not work?
wait i think i misunderstand still, ignore me
Uuuhh TOS?
They're saying ELI5
I use kali linux kde edition and sometimes I experience a screen blackout that lasts about 2 seconds, it randomly happens.
The reason I mention this is to see if someone else uses kde kali and is experiencing the same every now and then.
Sorry, I use a setup on WSL2 with only the CLI for companionship
seems like something like this and that's amazing.
@quaint basin sir did u make introductory networking and nmap room?
Yes
The concepts were like a mountain for me
But slowly I climb it like a mountain goat within few days 👍
The room was awesome and clear all my concept
Thanks you sir 👍
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Hello
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did anyone here actually buy sublime
really love the text editor but not enough to buy it. nano is easy to use just boring and i guess i could learn vim
nah, using VS Code.
I've never seen someone buy sublime, like winrar
it depends on your use cases but I mostly use vim & vscodium
learning Vi/VIM is one of the things that is in practically every linux environment. and, it is usually a huge productivity boost to know Vi, because the hotkeys are all oriented around never moving your hands away from the standard typing position to perform any operation
noted
Yeah but it's complicated when you don't use standard typing position...
hey im having some trouble with django. any time i insert path('helium/', include('helium.urls)), into my urls.py folder under "urlpatterns" i get an error along the lines of Python Runtime Error: Maximum recursion depth exceeded
and my webserver crashes. Its for the django room if this would be more appropriate to ask in #room-help
the log it drops is probably a few hundred lines long and stackoverflow says its because im including the url inside itself but its Ctrl+C Ctrl+V what the room says so im a bit lost :/
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no linux
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its okay you tried :/ thats all that matters B
Use Flask. Ez
@warped gust your room. Help 
Or @glacial nebula given you're around and kinda know a very small amount about Django
A very small amount? Am literally a django senior dev

That’s an infinite loop
I think what was happening is the main app was called “helium” and then you imported the urls from “helium” so it was infinite loop
oh i have two things called helium and im not supposed to?
noted. ill just wipe and restart, hopefully it fixes
thanks
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oh wait its fawaz you changed your name. youre a django dev? Thats interesting actually
I taught django for 5 years
Muir said flask tho so 👍 but still interesting
Hobbyist projects hehe
yeah but Muir has his OSCP and CRTO. you only have every cert in existence. I think this speaks volume here. Flask
You dont use flask like Muir said so youre already behind
I used flask, probably more than Muir did lol
Big talk from someone who doesnt have a rickroll server
Have you heard of tryhcakme.com? 🤣
nah sounds like something script kiddies go to get malware. whats that site?
out of curiosity why flask over django Muir??
doesn't django use flask as an engine?
Yes
It's a lot less complicated and gives you a lot more control. I can do fuckery with Flask that would be 10x harder in Django, but Fawaz is right to say that Django makes big applications easier.
That said, there are some really big flask apps out there now
looking at flask rn and so far django is looking a lot easier :/ besides that error i had and took hours to troubleshoot ig
but noted, ill give them both a solid go
Flask is as simple as:
from flask import Flask
app = Flask(__name__)
@app.route("/")
def home():
return "It works!"
app.run()
No fancy tools to manage different aspects of the app. It's all pure python. All your own code. All under your control.
i wish i knew python
but noted once again
fastspi 
Ive been looking at getting into the maker space to try to force myself to learn some python. robotics seems fun and python seems like a usable language for it
I wouldn't use python for anything big though
I’m looking to learn python and code wars is too big of a task for me although I have a account, and self teaching is dreadful. What do you guys recommend?
Feel free to ping me with ideas^^ I was thinking pay for classes? Idk man
I mean, Netflix and Reddit do
Muir teach me python 😐
I still think it'd make a mess
Again, the Netflix and Reddit backends are Flask, and that's just two examples 😆
Django is a lot more common in production, but it's up there with NodeJS Express
I mean I suppose for microservices, why not?
Not sure I would call Netflix a microservice, but sure 😆
I mean they split everything into microservices
like getting a show's info is a different server than getting the video feed itself
and probably a different database, etc
flask is bad, why? code is a mess
I am sure they use a flask, along side a whole wine factory of other home-made tools
never said it was bad, just that I can't figure out how to cleanly map out an architecture for a python app
and at least 30 different languages because the teams are different
I came to hate python lately
just a personal preference
I discovered my love for ruby and cpp
U vile creature ||joke||
My condolences
I wouldn't say that , not really
cpp is surprisingly awesome
ruby on rails rocks
and cpp can run on a rock , and makes more sense in some syntax stuff
U don’t have to justify liking something man, to each their own :)
yeah I'm not a fan of ruby, personally
justifying shows why the other party may consider something
also ruby on rails powers github
thats for people saying its dying
Gitlab uses ruby as well
I think ruby is a great language that was ruined by the community
if you like Ruby and C++ you should checkout Crystal. It has the same syntax as Ruby, but has types and compiles down to native code. https://crystal-lang.org/
yea interesting,i am just not gonna see it cause i don't cheat on my combiled cpp
: >
I simply wish to be a top shelf RTO so am forcing myself to learn python
Every time I have used ruby, I have been disgusted and appalled at the language design choices
so flask is cool with ya?
sun cat
🌞 
yes
Can I copy paste my own medium blogs onto my website without getting copyclaimed?
Hey there 🙂
I'm searching for a program (app) that I can use to keep track of my progress during ctfs. I know there's a lot out there. I also know this has been asked in the past, and I could rememeber something like "Obsidian" being someones favourite. What do you guys use? Any recommandations?
Notion is nice but there are a lot of options, OneNote, GitNotes, Notion, Trilium, Joplin, Obsidian, and I probably forgot someone's favorite
Thanks 🙂 Havent seen anything about Trilium, yet..
Gave +1 Rep to @scarlet moth
Cherrytree for CTF notes
Trilium for your normal notebook
Trilium > *
Thanks 🙂
Gave +1 Rep to @quaint basin
Obsidian is great... until you start learning Windows exploitation
Plain text files just sitting on the disk get destroyed by antivirus as soon as you start adding any malicious code
RIP my c# sc runner
Precisely
Cherrytree uses encrypted SQLite DBs, meaning AV doesn't get a look into it
thankfully had backups so wasn't that big of a loss
BUT it gets unstable at higher node counts.
Another reason to let Windows alone lol
Trilium has the same system (encrypted SQLite DB, albeit much more efficiently structured) but has a tonne more features including things like sync and server setups, and doesn't get unstable at higher counts
note migration tho 
gpedit.msc > computer config > admin templates > windows components > windows defender > ...
Unless you're using home version of Windows, then get-wrecked x'D
Yeah, migrating cherrytree to, well, anything, is a main in the arse
I mean, you can administer Defender on Windows Home just as easily.
just delete all the sigs easy peasy
yeah, just can't make a GPO you can just copy/paste between machines.
But if you're having to put rules into your AV to leave your notes alone then you're doing something wrong
How many computers do you have that you'd want your notes on..?
More like, how many times do you intend to reformat/reset 😄
Another advantage of Trilium
Self-hosted sync server. It's as easy as logging in 🤷♂️
Thank you so much guys 🙂
Does anyone know, how to redirect all wifi users from a specific website to another website through? I am using OpenWRT.
Why would you want to do that?
To test a phishing attack. I have Raspberry Pi 4 B with OpenWRT
I'm not a moderator, but I'd probably say that's more for #advanced-general
@patent gate If you would be so kind as to weight in here
Agreed
Also, You're still a mentor, Jabz 🙂
Sorry Sky - We gotta make sure that folk on here aren't using the server to do anything unethical. What you are building is on the line, and we don't really know you. However, remain active kepp learning on the site and over time you can get access to the advanced channels 🙂
I am not doing anything unethical. You can visit my repo https://github/sky9262/phishEye
Phishing is rarely an ethical topic.
I want to create my own router and after that, if any user will search facebook.com oy anything else using my router it should be redirect to my local ip
Just 4 Education purpose
Oh, yikes, yeah that is not an ethical practice either.
I know exactly what you're trying to do.
I'd probably suggest that you avoid discussing it^^
I think, all the topics in hacking could be ethical and unethical
Yup, but some are strictly unethical.
i know a telegram group 1k ppl
all r just buying scamas proxies
sendouts and etc.
on montly membership 
Phishing is one of those that could be practiced but there's rarely a time when you would actually use it ethically.
BrokenSyntax, when someone is told not to discuss something, you don't then go and discuss it.
until a time came
what we see in mr robot
phishing for network tower admin logins 
But yeah, as @odd acorn says. The only time it's actually borderline ethical (And that REALLY is up to debate) is as part of a training scenario, and so long as all phish are released unharmed.
@patent gate reeeeeeee
You're aware that Mr Robot is a TV Series, right? 🙂
yes 🙂
Phishing - Be aware of it so you can avoid it.
But it's a waste of your talent to actually create one
So, I won't get any help
It's useful for redteamers, but if you're a redteamer and are asking in this discord how to do it then I'm unsure how you got the job in the first place 
The moment you redirect someone in the sense you describe, it stops being educational purpose.
It's weird how often that happens ngl
Makes me think they hand out "red team" jobs in cereal boxes
Depends who's definition you go by; if we take the SANS definition, then Red Team means emulating TTPs of real adversaries to make the Blue Team better. No real industry standard for the term itself, so we get interesting alternatives. 😄
Is SQL injection ever ethical? :)))
Yes. I did it at work today
👍🏻
Also always the "within the parameters of a defined and executed red team operation"
Remember that it's not only redteaming
Pentesting, QA, all sorts
Fair
I hate my life, I hate web development and I hate programming
I just spent 10 hours writing a backend for my writeups
Turns out that the headless CMS' content creation UI only exports JSON and not HTML
so I need to write a JSON to HTML parser
Don't want to use an off-the-shelf one?
psst. It's a boy! Just wanted to share.
Nah 1) that's boring and 2) I want to integrate it with the rest of my website, thus give it exactly the same format/looks
Which is why I went with a headless CMS that has a GraphQL API
one thing is learning black hat technique in order to protect yourself and your organization, the bad thing is that you practice this techniques.
I believe you must know both sides if you plan on actually doing something.
you can't counter the cybercriminals blinded.
I also believe auditing should be done with a mixture of "good techniques"/blackhat techniques, how do you expect to improve a organizations security by restraining yourself, you have to simulate a real "evil" attack and of course they have to agree on to that.
obviously you have to make sure you don't cause any damages in the process.
there is an actual company in my country that operates this way and the state it in the "about section".
what room would you guys say "if you can complete this, the PenTest+ should be pretty easy"
The whole point of ethical hacking is that "good" techniques and "blackhat" techniques are literally the same.
It's how you use them that makes a difference.
Learning to phish + write/spot realistic phishing contexts is one thing. Deploying them yourself is another.
Tends to be fully fledged red teamer roles tho
Not strictly true. We offer it as a standalone service to pentest clients 🤷♂️
Either way though, it's one that is very rarely used legitimately
-ban 755865727029739580 Bot DMing server invites
🔨 Banned ./ythreshzin.py#5593 indefinitely
Yeah we very very very rarely have SE in scope
Oh, we very very rarely have it in scope for a pentest
I think it's been one gig so far, out of a metric tonne of others
Does anyone know any proper geo/gps trackers that last atleast 3 months and do not use a sim card?
What are you tracking?
Jabba listening to Rxseboy? Niceee. I have a whole playlist dedicated to him, powfu, and sadboyprolific. And a few small others like them :).
A car
Hello you all, one quick question what if the Bot does not recognize my Discord token? You know who I can contact?
Try "Tile"
That might be something they do.
Or have a black box fitted by your insurance.
Whose car, and why
My dad wants one because a seller fcked him over and he made a deal with him about repairing the car et cetera. he doesn't believe the seller so he wants to put a tracker on it to be sure
Once the car is out of your dad's ownership, regardless of the deal, that's not an ethical use
Tell your dad to speak to the police
If your dad was treated poorly, the local action news investigative team may be a better route to social justice
You can put a tracker on your own car, but we ain't helping with it
It's not that difficult to do
What's "local action news"?
Local news paper, probably.
Well that's the issue; in my country the buyer needs to do research on the car, which my dad asked the seller to do (which is a rtard move, and I told him) and he said there was no damage. A few weeks later we found out that the car had a crash a while earlier, but was repaired in an insufficient way
Now he asked the seller to take a look at it once again, but do it right
And well, he doesn't trust him. The issue is that the seller technically did nothing illegal because he can claim he didn't know there was damage
You can literally find out the full history of a car based on it's reg.
Yeah, that's how we found out
Was it a private sale?
Doesn't give you the right to start messing around with trackers 🤷♂️
Call the police
Vigilantism is never good
Two wrong's don't make a right.
However three rights make a left.
any of yall got a keychron k2?
thinking of buying one
Stay classy San Diego.™️
He'll read anything off the teleprompter, and I mean anything
hi, everyone
any tips on going back to learning cybersecurity or in general? fell into a slump and been binging social all media all year.
Figure out why you wanted to learn. Repeat it. Personally I do little things and think about a cyber application. “Wow I wonder if this self checkout is vulnerable. Let me look up the software version so I can report it if it is” type of thing
hello, welcome to the TryHackMe discord.
How do you guys deal with burn out? (without taking a break, I don't have that luxury) I'm at that point where I feel like I'm spinning my wheels and getting nowhere fast.
Take breaks. Daily ones at minimum. Do not work for extended periods of time.
Yeah and try to think clear for a moment
Focus might help as well. Do not try to cover everything at once.
Remind yourself to up every hour
One of the reasons I use the pomodoro method for managing my workday is the frequent breaks
This is a good one
hello hacker peeps
hi
thy fellow hacker is not verified, why?
shhhhhh you are too loud
oop
purple gang
whats going on!
Purple gang, but I wonder if I am really entitled to this title lmfao
bro, if they gave it to you take it lmao
how do you get gang-affiliated
first you need to be verified
weird, probably just have to logout and back in again
Nah roles sometimes take time to appear. To my knowledge at least that’s possibly the reason
ah, that makes sense
ty
It was instant for me though
should be instant
That's what I as under the impression of
My name took a few hours to get changed.
Mine happened instantly when I reverified for the subscriber role
ohhhh thats what it is
im not subscribed yet
There it is
Happens to the best of us 😅
watch todayisnew yt on his daily routine
anyone participated in @hack
hello does anyone know how to connect to a physically remote computer? I am using Ubuntu and try to connect to another Ubuntu machine with ssh username@ipaddress but looks like it's not that simple.
The target system will need to have an SSH server listening for the connection
And if there's NAT in the way you'll need to deal with that
how do i turn the listening system on from the target system? thx
Gave +1 Rep to @burnt night
Now that sounds like a google question
ok thx
love the pomodoro method! i combine it with focus mode on my phone and some ambient playlists on youtube to force myself back into productive mindset.
What's the difference between AD and SCCM?
AD for communicating and permissions and SCCM for software?
yeah kind of... AD is a lot more than that
if you aren't sure what AD is, I'd just go read some Microsoft docs on it
when you say AD you mean Active Directory?
Yes
ello
I’m having some issues with Firefox and I’m not sure what to call it so I’m having trouble using google for help if anyone can at least let me know what it’s called? When I click on a different tab it I see a weird mixture of the tab I’m switching to and the tab I am switching from and it won’t load unless I switch tabs again multiple times
Quite aggravating 😐 a fresh install didn’t help. Not sure if the issue is Firefox esr, my vm, or kali.
You have to be militant in this field. All jokes aside
Discipline is how to avoid costly mistakes
Sounds like an issue with performance tbh, can’t load the full tab in time or something
Check ur drivers for everything
download firefox latest version not esr
Finally finished my maths exam
spent 180 minutes on a 100 minute exam 
It had vague af questions like drawing the income distribution of a country
That's litterally what the question said, nothing more
I could've done it using standard deviations and averages, graphs, charts
relative, cumulative, absolute, frequency based, etc.
so I just drew a class based frequency bar chart 
Did you get the result of said exam? or do you have to wait?
Nope. I'm probably getting it this week
I'm expecting atleast 70% but I'm incredibly triggered about those vague questions
Absolutely nuking the score (probably)
What's your passmark, 60%?
Will you get penalised for taking longer?
Nah, I got some physical issues while writing on paper so the principal gave me permission to take as long as I need to see how much time I need extra for the finals
That's good of them, in my class if you have Dyslexia you get an extra 15 min(s)
Noted
Esr comes default with kali I just keep it 🤷♂️
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/hacking-by-no-starch-press-books does this look like it's worth a buy?
Yeah, it looks pretty good. I've got 3-4 of the books already and they're great.
No Starch tends to be pretty good
malwaretech is looking for people to test some rev challenges hes making, said so in his discord. Just a heads up
oh dang, I wonder if they updated black hat python, got that a long time ago
o dam, I got first edition, that's second, and came out this year. I think this is a buy for me

its python3 I think
Would be pretty sad if it wasn't 
wish there was an update to practical malware analysis, from 2012, but oh well
yeah that happens with AoC
so basically this
pretty much
Oh
I saw OllyDBG - or whatever it's spelled like - in description of that book so I was like "hmm this book isn't from 2011. it's made by outdated people like with the buffer overflows tutorials"
It's a good start with malware analysis.
I say this as someone who's worked through many of the challs and read a lot of it
pog
hii
Hi
hey
Lookin >> 2 it & def enjoy the learning. 🇬🇧 🇳🇵
God damn he really wanted the top of the month spot so bad
1056 points in two days
Who @dusty sleet
damn
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TL;DR: They're being transparent about the exam content and points, and they're adding a domain controller with 2 clients as part of the new exam
Who's behind this aggressive activitiy 🤔
Hi
hi
Hi
Interesting
^
I mean
there are is a room that gives 3000 points I believe
I can confirm theres one with 1500 but would need to confirm the other one
which one?
@frail rapids how did you get the countdown 👀
the one with 1600 is https://tryhackme.com/room/ccradare2
don't use THM to grind points though
use the platform to learn and earn those points
I dont think it will contribute even 500 to the monthly points
Ah like that.
Yeah it would only contribute 25%, so 400 points, but it was released more than a month ago so it doesn't count towards monthly points
Woah 4 screens what what what
grats man
Do "rooms in "get less by 1- time 2- changing room content 3- sth else ?
I believe the rooms in might use only public rooms as a metric
Why are sockets part of the transport layer?
Shouldn't they be in the application layer because it's used in the software?
Or they may have left some rooms
Because they provide a service used by app layer
Read this ^
ok, thank you
Gave +1 Rep to @twin ridge
reading now, thanks
there's a token on your Tryhackme profile, DM the @deft fossil bot in order to set it
think of sockets as an instrument that connects the application layer with the transport layer, they are as if they were in layer four and a half
done
there ya go
thank you for your help, I appreciate it.
np
Sweet
there's a #870288406054334465 btw 🙂
thanks
Gave +1 Rep to @twin ridge
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I picked up an advent calendar the other day and it's the best thing ever.
hey mates, im new to this world and ive been looking for some help regarding remote access to the labs from my own testing environment, im not a complete noob, i play with tryhackme/htb/BTLO for a couple of months now, if anyone has some time, how can i have GUI remote access to, for example, tryhackme's windows challenges? because i cant ssh on those
Either THM's in browser access or the RDP protocol.
The room will have instructions if it's a walkthrough
thanks a lot, so i cant use RDP for every room i join?
RDP needs to be enabled
You need creds
i see, okep 😄
First look at Ameca , most advanced humanoid robot from @Engineered Arts Designed as a platform for AI and human robot interaction (HRI) . Will be on show at #ces2022. For more information check
https://www.engineeredarts.co.uk/robot/ameca/
#robot #humanoidrobots #ai
This is going to be shown at CES 2022
This is the most genuinely creepy android proof of concept project I think I've seen...
the eye tracking is probably the scariest part
It is and it's also really freaking cool!
It's amazing! The movement and everything is super smooth
It also gives me really strong "I Robot" vibes tho lol
I totally want to work with robots
Between these guys and boston dynamics, some cool robotics stuff is being done
Machine Learning/Virtual Intelligence would need to come a little bit further before working with these kinds of robots would be possible. Well, 'possible' already probably, 'productive' is another thing
I can't wait for more sophisticated VR systems
but above all like household helper robots like in the jettsons
inb4 detroit: become human is a little too close for comfort
when searching using / how can i cycle through the matches? Any key i press seems to end the search rather than iterate through them
no that just types n into the search
Thank you anyways
👋
CTRL + i should go forward i believe and then i think CTRL + o goes backwards?
If not, try CTRL+ p and CTRL + n
@mortal venture work?
none :/
Assuming they're using Vi/m
Searching with / you can advance with n and go back to previous with N
okay i realize my mistake and once i did a quick google search answered me..... I was asking how to use it in firefox but i have also been wondering this too so thank you
quick find in firefox. idk why the hotkeys are diff between linux and windows despite being the same browser
the answer was F3 and CTRL + G
See, mentioning what you were using would've been helpful. Everyone assumed you were using Vi(m).
i realized that yes
When I do Tab+Enter in bash, it freezes and I don't know how to get out of it. Does anybody experience the same thing?
I guess it's tab that's borked.
Now I get it. It's trying to do tab completion.
Please I don't know to fix this issue.The attackbox is not displaying
@snow rose enable cookies in browser
Okay
Ello
So what I don't understand is, why do ISPs not focus on improving the ping
like wouldn't that make the web A LOT faster
They do.
But latency and throughput are both important
Are you talking from a gaming perspective??
I mean, they can only do so much...we all know what happened with the recent battlefield games right on their release....if the netcode sucks, then there's nothing the ISP can do unfortunately.
Big difference between throughput and latency.
latency isn't THAT important for most internet tasks
although I've had a case recently where an aggressive timeout coupled with extreme distance would cause a CORS preflight to fail
that was cute
No. general internet use
Say you're doing synchronous communication with small file sizes like JS files and web pages, the biggest bottleneck would be the latency because it's not like you're gonna need 110ms to download a 11kb file with 100mb/s
my wired issue arrived today. Morpheus is on the front cover
I can't wait for the movie! 19 days!
Congratz on your new role as trial mod 👏 😊
That's more of an application layer problem. HTTP/2 already does a lot to address this.
Can anyone tell difference between
Attackbox and kali machine ?
Attackbox is kept up to date, has files for THM rooms often, and is designed by THM for THM, and it's ubuntu
Kali is kali
So we can use attackbox for room
When using kali we will have to use openvpn to connect
Am I right?
Not for THM Kali
And not for THM networks
If you're using your own machine, virtual or not, you'll need the VPN.
If I start use kali and kept new files saved in it
Will still be there every time?
Or it will be reset everytime I start a kali vm?
As long as you don't use a live image, they'll persist.
Or more precisely: As long as you install Kali locally, they'll persist.
Let's get ya'll
minor bug in introto86 room
input field expects input but can be bybassed without one
Just so the proper people see it
hello, im having an issue starting my attack box to complete day 4. it says i can only use it an hour a day but this is the first time i’m logging on. any help?
This is probably a question for #site-support
thank you
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I'm not sure how the attackbox keeps track of time but for streaks the time rolls over at midnight I believe
after refreshing the page the answer appears
I can't stop thinking about how a star shape is a quintagon with folded sides
nice star, I know
for some reason it boggles my mind 
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I love how all the hackers are geeked out together over one laptop screen
hello
hello
Hi
o/
hi
you mean pentagon
Hello
I remember a THM room having a command to clean out /etc/hosts file , does somebody have it by any chance ? 😄
File inclusion?
Upload vulns but it was only for entries added in that room
Aye, the one in upload vulns just deletes the last line @radiant jacinth
Alright thank you 😄
Muir what’s your pfp from? Mesmerizing
Just a modification on my normal one
I made the normal one. Bee modified it for winter
I've just rooted toc2, it is by far one of my favorite initial foothold + privesc method 😄
very fun one though
how to scan the 65k ports without writing --range 0 -65k in rust scan
might do it in a year or so
-- -p- I guess
Pretty sure it does it by default if you don't specify ports.

okk ty both
I will downvote myself and get back to maths
I have to go back to math tmmrw
Math ezpz
math take so long
and need focus
which are 2 things I don't realy excell at managing
close discord :p
who made this room ?
on desktop it doesn't at least as I can see
Desktop
sorry my bad didn't open the more section
yall need this https://youtu.be/Qz82KHieDBU
Just a fun edit on a hot topic.
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maybe not but still...
-8ball watup
Yes
this looks intresting https://you.com/
"congrats you are another new product! your browsing habits are now going to YA3P!"
ya3b as in ?
surprisingly cli r2 commands are intuitive
as somone who didn't know the 86 asm nor radare
radare2 room should be done before the 86 room or there should be some other room to be refrenced before both
so I am doing r2 room and using izz to print all strings as ss below, but the string that is required is not present w izz, what should I do, Ive tried seeking last memory address w s addresss then s+ then izz but no luck
nvm I analyzed wrong bin lol
how would I know which after which in memory ?
Wouldn't these be better in #room-help or #room-hints ?


