general

[knotty valve]

Yes it does

[crystal moss]

Im fine.. "trying hydra"? Using it alot

[last harbor]

Speaking of moving on

[knotty valve]

Literally just did it

[last harbor]

I’m tired and good. Hru man

[last harbor]

I’m tired so he said that

[crystal moss]

I cant do it on my phone

[last harbor]

I ain’t on my android rn

[rapid merlin]

I need some practice on tools .... Wait u mean @last harbor ???

[tight trout]

i can't do it lol

[knotty valve]

I've been able to do it on stable and beta

There's very little difference in the way the UI works between iOS and Android they're both react

[crystal moss]

maybe we misunderstood each other. I thought you were wondering if we used the Hydra tool for password cracking / Brute-forcing

[last harbor]

Yh lol

[last harbor]

lol

[knotty valve]

I was personally bouncing between challs

[rapid merlin]

lmaoooo 😂😂 yes, I thought u were bullying him too

[crystal moss]

I think it's good to do that, instead I overwork and waste time..

[last harbor]

Lmao no. I’m pretty sure I’m friends with him. Ain’t that right @crystal moss ?

[vital snow]

[knotty valve]

Yea I still burnt out a little during it and took a break then ended up being busy on the final day 😅

Hoping I have more time during Google to do it

[crystal moss]

friend, no absolutely not, enemy:D no of course we are friends:)

[last harbor]

lol

Anyways gn kids

[steady pewter]

YOU TOO ARE A KID!

[winged nimbus]

being able to import rooms straight into Notebook LM would be cool

[crystal moss]

hehe, that we work this hard even when it's just an exercise, that says a lot about our dedication 🙂

[knotty valve]

What's life without having people be your enemies

[last harbor]

I just call people “kid”

[austere verge]

I am the danger

[crystal moss]

🙂

[steady pewter]

So..how's your wife doing?

I meant life!

DAMMIT!

[knotty valve]

She's doing fine I think

[crystal moss]

Kids or skids

[knotty valve]

Skids

[steady pewter]

yeah, I think so too, but what about his LIFE?

[knotty valve]

What life?

[steady pewter]

yeah...

[knotty valve]

I thought it was a prereq to not have a life to be in cyber

[steady pewter]

What is defined as a "life"?

[knotty valve]

Idk

Do you want the scientific one or the theoretical?

[steady pewter]

How about both?

[crystal moss]

Now we talking deep , klock is just 0607 😄

[rapid merlin]

Oh hello pig

[knotty valve]

Scientifically it's just be an organism either unicellular or multicellular

Theoretical it's a heavy debate

You don't need to be sentient to be alive, but you need a biological foundation

[steady pewter]

Hmm..heavy debate might be too much for this server to handle.

[knotty valve]

Especially with the person from earlier 🤣

[tight trout]

i stopped thinking hard about stuff when i realized that at its most basic level, computers are rocks we tricked into thinking

[knotty valve]

We tortured it into thinking

We zapped it so much it started thinking

[crystal moss]

I don't understand.. even though I'm completely free today and went to bed late, I wake up extremely early and can't continue sleeping. Today I woke up at 0445 and have absolutely no reason to be awake at all today until tonight when the dog I have every other week comes.

[tight trout]

internal alarm clock go brrrrr

[crystal moss]

Yup..

[knotty valve]

What's a body clock?

[crystal moss]

How are you today @tight trout

[tight trout]

i'm good, tired af tbh. enjoyed the first day of pride with some sportsball

yourself?

[crystal moss]

but I should still sleep longer, I basically choose my own times when I work except when there are meetings..

[winged nimbus]

i think it is when you tape one of those cheap arduino RTC modules to your body

[knotty valve]

Lmao

[tight trout]

arduino, battery pack, taser

[crystal moss]

Hehe

[round onyx]

Who are we tasing?

[knotty valve]

Or: massive amount of batteries + capacitors - resistors

[tight trout]

ourselves?

[steady pewter]

Uh..well..not me!

[crystal moss]

Or a time trigged bomb west

[steady pewter]

I've been tased many a times with most of my high voltage experiments..

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-coil-lightning-tesla-coil-scary-gif-11083418386190047177

[crystal moss]

Mr Tesla

[round onyx]

Not very into that but you do you

[knotty valve]

Masochism goes brr

[crystal moss]

🙂

[winged nimbus]

Boom, body clock

[round onyx]

I am pretty sure I lost count at how much I shock myself now

[knotty valve]

Lmao

[round onyx]

Fucking genius I should try that

[crystal moss]

Dont snoze

[knotty valve]

Me: "I don't think HRT is working this last two months"
My body the next day: sensitive chest and growing pains

Thanks body 👍

[tight trout]

reallll😭

[knotty valve]

EVERY time

[tight trout]

my first couple of months were like that

[crystal moss]

@tight trout whare are you from?

[tight trout]

then the chest sensitivity

[tight trout]

a trans friendly state in cst

[knotty valve]

Its pain but a good pain

[tight trout]

once i started wearing bras it def helped so much

[knotty valve]

I need to wear them more often

[crystal moss]

Ok.. you did speak about pride so i gussed it was like so. My country is real fan of pride

[winged nimbus]

having certain areas of a country not being trans friendly is such a foreign concept for a non american

[tight trout]

i can't go without, stairs are basically roadblocks with how much my chest has grown

[knotty valve]

I'm getting that now 😭

[tight trout]

where are you from if you don't mind my asking?

[knotty valve]

Drop down one step and the shock is just

[crystal moss]

Stockholm/Sweden

[knotty valve]

Running is also pain

[winged nimbus]

you just woke up as welll lmfao

[crystal moss]

I only run when it is for my life:)

[winged nimbus]

your sleep is messed up

everyone in chat is pink

[knotty valve]

I had to run for PT today

[tight trout]

it's such... fun figuring out what hurts, after it hurts

[crystal moss]

Yes. Or.. about 0445

[knotty valve]

Ikr

[crystal moss]

🙂

[vital snow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996203614773186620/1031458263780302898/cali_NESSIE_256PX1.gif

[knotty valve]

Not to mention the sudden swings of wanting to cry for no reason

[tight trout]

meeeeeeee fr

actually i've been getting period-like symptoms for the past couple of months

[knotty valve]

But yeah, def should've worn a bra today cause holy shit did my chest hurt after PT

[knotty valve]

Same

[tight trout]

it's even synched up to my bf 😭

[knotty valve]

I got them four months into HRT

Middle of the month...every. month.

[crystal moss]

When you get older you get stiffer and should exercise more, but I do the opposite haha, when I was around 20 I exercised a lot, gym, boxing, martial arts etc but now 20 years later I'm kind of just lazy and the only exercise I do is walk 10-20km every day (almost every day anyway)

[tight trout]

end of the month for me, but i'll be out of commission for at least a day or two

[knotty valve]

I'm out for an entire week

To the point my work has me roster WFH for those weeks

[winged nimbus]

a long walk is still a good exercise

[tight trout]

yeah after the first two days it's just really my mood that's all fucked up

[crystal moss]

How does that actually work, does it turn off testosterone and instead give more estrogen? Don't you feel bad, I mean I previously had a little low testosterone because I got depressed but then I got a Nibido injection and felt much better..

with hormonal therapy ..

[knotty valve]

The T Blockers basically inhibit the production of testosterone without preventing all production since it's still a needed hormone

The estrogen meds help the body produce more estrogen

[tight trout]

fuck didn't mean to reply lmao

[knotty valve]

It's like puberty blockers

They delay the production of both T and E to slow puberty

[crystal moss]

Ah i see

[steady pewter]

My neighbor Black Hydra might need some of those.

[knotty valve]

Lmfao

[tight trout]

lol

[knotty valve]

They should talk to their GP to see an endocrinologist if they want to go down that path

[steady pewter]

they don't..

[knotty valve]

Also HRT is like second puberty

And it sucks

At least I know how to deal with it this time 😅

[crystal moss]

so you need to do it at the age when puberty is. I can imagine that it might be hard to do it as an adult because testosterone affects mood and energy a lot..

[crystal moss]

🙂

[knotty valve]

All hormones affect mood

[tight trout]

for best results usually yes, but YMMV

[knotty valve]

There's no solid time to start HRT, puberty blockers only work before and during puberty

[rapid merlin]

What y'all talking about?

[winged nimbus]

just noting this down so i have a better chance at remembering:
network intrusion detection system (NIDS) monitors the traffic flow from various areas of the network
Host-based intrusion detection system (HIDS) monitors the traffic flow from a single endpoint device

[tight trout]

hormone replacement therapy

[knotty valve]

Endocrine

[rapid merlin]

Uh huh, I will be spectator

[crystal moss]

Ok, i get it.

[winged nimbus]

same

[blissful current]

[winged nimbus]

i saw the difference between NIDS and HIDS in a list of interview questions
i didn't know the answer but it just came up in the room i am doing rn

[crystal moss]

@knotty valve Damn, you know so much about so much 🙂

[tight trout]

night guys!

[winged nimbus]

gn

[knotty valve]

I'm trans + ex nurse

[crystal moss]

Gn

[knotty valve]

Good night!

[winged nimbus]

IDS = passive, creates alerts
IPS = active, stops the connection

[blissful current]

[steel aspen]

Has anyone had much experience with excel?

[crystal moss]

Wtf

[round onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/meowdy-cat-cowboy-cowboy-cat-gif-10014009665270740623

[knotty valve]

Lmfao

[knotty valve]

Meowdy!

[crystal moss]

I knew about trans, of course, but I didn't know about nursing, that's cool. I was really keen to work as an emergency nurse in the ambulance or the military, but it turned out to be a different career.

[rapid merlin]

Funny name

[steel aspen]

Detection and prevention are definitely two different words

[winged nimbus]

yea

[blissful current]

meowdy

[crystal moss]

Cool cat

[steel aspen]

Why can't I resize an image with merged cells when that's what it's telling me to do lol

[round onyx]

There isn't enough catnip for the two of us

[knotty valve]

I done some ED nursing

It's hell

I was mainly psychiatric tho

[crystal moss]

Hehe

[winged nimbus]

does behaviour-based intrusion prevention systems use machine learning

[knotty valve]

I did do some work in NPS (neonatal/pediatric)

[knotty valve]

Yes

Specifically pattern analysis

The cheapest way to learn it on budget hardware and CPUs is to use random forests

[crystal moss]

That's right, stupid me, now that you say it I remember..

[strong glade]

[blissful current]

[knotty valve]

https://github.com/PacktPublishing/Mastering-Machine-Learning-for-Penetration-Testing/tree/master/Chapter05

It's a fork

Whoops

I'll send the OG

[strong glade]

[winged nimbus]

one of my uni mates came from nursing and is now doing cyber

[topaz falcon]

You never have to worry about ips if you just break in

[winged nimbus]

thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @knotty valve (current: #123 - 68)

[knotty valve]

No probs

[knotty valve]

Yeah I'm similar lmao

[crystal moss]

brb, going out and having some breakfast. cya

[knotty valve]

I went from network engineering and satellites to nursing to cyber

[knotty valve]

Cya!

[winged nimbus]

what about lateral movement because you won't always be able to get straight to the target if you break in

[crystal moss]

I get it, I've been in IT all my life, except for a while as a young man in sales and in warehouse..

[winged nimbus]

i skipped my final year of highschool to start in cyber

[crystal moss]

network technician, admin, support etc..

Cya

[winged nimbus]

breakfast lmao

[winged nimbus]

do you work night shifts in a soc or something?

[crystal moss]

woke up 0445 ..

[knotty valve]

Home sweet home

[sullen schooner]

SOC sounds fun lol

[winged nimbus]

thats what i want to do next year

[crystal moss]

Of course I have to wait for them to open..

[sullen schooner]

Security Analysts earn more tho

[winged nimbus]

mb i thought it was 0045

[sullen schooner]

My goal is to get 2 yr experience in cyber so I can get in red team

[crystal moss]

Np

[winged nimbus]

once i got a year in a soc i could pivot to what i want to do after that

[sullen schooner]

Make ur own breakfast instead of starving lol

[sullen schooner]

Yeah ig

SOC wouldn't give you much time to study something tho I think

[crystal moss]

I love the weeks I have the dog, he is my best friend, an 8 year old Amstaff, "Boris" 🙂 he is here every other week..

[winged nimbus]

these still messages still haven't been deleted

[crystal moss]

@knotty valve I wrote earlier that we would end up in the top 120 or so in NOPS, but it went better than that for my group (even better for other groups in the team..)

[rapid merlin]

Congrats

[winged nimbus]

nice

[knotty valve]

Yooo gj

[chilly veldt]

Morning

[sullen schooner]

Lmao

[rapid merlin]

Morning

[crystal moss]

Morning!

[sullen schooner]

Morning!

[rapid merlin]

How are y'all doing? anything interesting going on?

[crystal moss]

How are you today @chilly veldt

[sullen schooner]

Waiting on my CEH content access codes 😐

[crystal moss]

Nice with CEH

[rapid merlin]

Uh What is CEH? Sorry

[sullen schooner]

Ec Council's Certified Ethical Hacker v13

[rapid merlin]

Damn, good luck.

[crystal moss]

a certification, Certified Ethical Hacker

[winged nimbus]

how hard is CEH

[lavish bear]

good morning everyone

[crystal moss]

Not like OSCP

[sullen schooner]

It's all theory. My friend who has CEH mastry (both theory & practical holder) said it took him 2 months to prep

It's relatively easy

Security+ is more difficult

[winged nimbus]

alr

[chilly veldt]

Tired, worked 17 hours yesterday

[sullen schooner]

But they're different certifications. CEH is red team. Sec+ is blue

[chilly veldt]

Eh, CEH is pentesting, SEC+ is general cybersecurity knowledge

[crystal moss]

I see. Are you free today then?

[chilly veldt]

CEH is only needed if you're in India

[mellow narwhal]

Sec+ is not blue

[chilly veldt]

Nope, I have to drive to school in 10 minutes

[sullen schooner]

Still the 85% pass grade with 900 mark exam is kinda stressful

[frozen charm]

nah ceh is not a red team cert at all

[sullen schooner]

Alr

[sullen schooner]

It's entry level red

[mellow narwhal]

CEH isn't exactly red team either

[sullen schooner]

Ig

[mellow narwhal]

its more of offensive security knowledge

[chilly veldt]

Pentesting

[crystal moss]

ambitious, good!

[frozen charm]

ceh = intro ig

[sullen schooner]

Ohh ok

[mellow narwhal]

but it doesn't compare to other certs in terms of quality

its just memorizing tool names

[sullen schooner]

I haven't started prep yet. I'll do eJPT before CEH. I have them both lol

[frozen charm]

I'll not waste money on CEH

rather go for crto or crtp

[winged nimbus]

certs that are just memorising stuff isn't very optimal

[frozen charm]

then crte

[rapid merlin]

Then I should get it too

[sullen schooner]

My college had an agreement with ec council. Got it more than 50% off with 40 hrs of lectures

[winged nimbus]

ones that test your practical skills are better

[crystal moss]

Btw..https://inl03.netline.com/ltr6/?_m=3n.009a.3682.fy0ao45yf3.2pn2

[sullen schooner]

I read Node.js is good at messing up windows too

[knotty valve]

Isn't CEH outdated?

[sullen schooner]

And "is favourite tool for hackers these days"

[crystal moss]

Windows is a mess

[frozen charm]

its of no use for practical things ig

[sullen schooner]

I am 🙂

[chilly veldt]

That's why it's only needed in India, cause companies HR department there loves it

[sullen schooner]

That's the ONLY reason I'm doing it

[frozen charm]

m india but still won't do cehv13

in*

[torpid stag]

ceh is overpriced imo

way too overpriced

[frozen charm]

India sucks at cysec

[winged nimbus]

am i correct in saying HR is useless for anything but softskills

[sullen schooner]

For what knowledge it provides, definitely. But for hr value in india, it's a must have

[chilly veldt]

Perchance

[torpid stag]

hmm fair point. but still way too overpriced

[sullen schooner]

Yeah they're garbage. All they know is CEH is popular so it's a requirement in every listing. Pentest, SOC, sec analysts all profiles have it as requirement

[winged nimbus]

i need to minimise discord because i am distracting myself too much having it open lol

[sullen schooner]

All I've seen on LinkedIn is CEH and CCNA. Few eJPTs too

[winged nimbus]

ill make a tea or coffee and see you guys in a bit

[knotty valve]

Love that RH say it's not that severe

[torpid stag]

and one or two pnpts - way too rare

[blissful current]

OSCP , CISSP etc too
but ofc they're a bit advanced

[knotty valve]

Ccna is high regard still really good and indate

It's more blue team and infra tho

[sullen schooner]

I'm not getting OSCP for entry level. Plus I think it requires 5 yrs of cyber work experience

[frozen charm]

it doesnt bro

my friend got osep and he's in 3rd year of his college

[sullen schooner]

Yeah. I'll do security+ after eJPT and CEH. Then maybe CCNA

[sullen schooner]

Well I can't afford it😂

Too freaking expensive for me

[crystal moss]

You can compare OSCP with CEH in price or advance

[frozen charm]

Yep its costly too

[knotty valve]

Ccna is more if you're going into security engineering or networking

[sullen schooner]

Btw isn't pentest+ theoretical?

[knotty valve]

Cisco do have security certs

[sullen schooner]

Im only doing blue to get in cyber. I'll pivot red once I get in

Blue team is easier to get in as a fresher

[torpid stag]

Same

[torpid stag]

Actually, I am doing the Ethical Hacking one from netacad

[crystal moss]

Often people get their certificates paid for by the company they work for, win win for everyone..

[knotty valve]

I mean it's very specific to security engineering

You won't need it outside of SOC

[sullen schooner]

CCNA?

[knotty valve]

Yeah

Same with the CCNP

I have both

Enterprise for the CCNP

[sullen schooner]

Probably won't do it unless then I'm getting desperate for a blue team job lol

[frozen charm]

wot r the chances of gettin a good job in us or europe countries with CRTE and OSEP ?

as an Indian

[sullen schooner]

What do you suggest? I wanna pivot red. I have Google's Cybersecurity Professional cert so I have 30% off on sec+. I am studying for eJPT and my college is teaching CEH

[frozen charm]

:' )

[knotty valve]

I'm not a red teamer

[sullen schooner]

Shucks

[knotty valve]

But the OSCP/+ is good

Would best ask in #cyber-and-careers

[austere verge]

We yearn for the red team

[knotty valve]

Ngl I could probably do the CCNP Security and have no issues doing it

[sullen schooner]

Unless I'm 5 yrs+ in cyber and feel stuck, that's the only place I'll do OSCP with my money

I'm making my employer pay for OSCP

[knotty valve]

Oscp doesn't need 5+ years of experience

[sullen schooner]

I know

[crystal moss]

Often people get their certificates paid for by the company they work for, win win for everyone..

[knotty valve]

By that time you've already done the OSCP

[sullen schooner]

But unless I feel stuck or desperate, I won't pay for it myself

I'll get my employer to pay

Lol

[knotty valve]

I paid for all mine except for my SATCOM certificate

[frozen charm]

dont wanna wait for a company to pay for it

[knotty valve]

They're quick to throw you into training if they think you're worth it

[sullen schooner]

Why is OSCP this expensive anyway

[crystal moss]

exactly. the best thing is that the company pays, it's win win

[frozen charm]

any chance of gettin a good job in us or europe countries?

[knotty valve]

Just don't give the company a reason to think it'll be a waste of money

[frozen charm]

as an Indian m sayin

[knotty valve]

Idk I'm not from the ME

I was born in Europe lol

[crystal moss]

because it is a large and well-regarded cert.

[austere verge]

India is in South Asia

[sullen schooner]

Probably not unless you have groundbreaking research or have graduated from a uni there

[knotty valve]

Or have work experience

[sullen schooner]

So they're milking it? Makes sense lol

[knotty valve]

It's pretty full on

The cost is worth what you're getting out of it

[sullen schooner]

True

[knotty valve]

Also no good certificate is cheap

[crystal moss]

of course.. they want to make money 💸. supply and demand

[sullen schooner]

Also true

[knotty valve]

CCNPs are about $700-$1,000

Per sitting

[sullen schooner]

Welp

[crystal moss]

a little what I mean.. a good certificate costs..

[sullen schooner]

I'm gonna go study for eJPT

Catch you guys later

[knotty valve]

Iirc I had two payments for the CCNP-E

Ohhhh they've updated the pricing on the CCNP-E

[crystal moss]

then it's like this, if you have paid for more expensive certificates and training, you will more likely earn much more than without..

[knotty valve]

$1600 at testing facilities (Byod)
$1900 remote

[knotty valve]

Yea

[crystal moss]

so it's an investment

[knotty valve]

Indeed!

My cisco certs were worth it imho

[crystal moss]

now I'm going to laze around a bit and if I'm lucky I'll sleep for a while.. I'll take advantage when I'm completely free all day.. 🙂

Bye

Cya

[knotty valve]

Cya

[winged nimbus]

where are the testing facilities

[knotty valve]

https://www.cisco.com/site/us/en/learn/training-certifications/certifications/expert/exams-training.html#accordion-494ee38d1e-item-02a004a8af

[winged nimbus]

there is a mobile lab in my city it seems

[knotty valve]

I just looked up how much my employer forked out on my SATCOM certificates lmfaooo

3k in total for MEC and GVF

[winged nimbus]

rounding error for them lol

[knotty valve]

MEC was during my time in the navy for maritime satcom

And GVF was my current work

It's ~680 for GVF and ~2,400 for MEC

[knotty valve]

Oh yeah, both groups make more than enough to recoup it in a day

But still, that's A LOT

[rapid merlin]

i want to know how many ports are open on a vm, should a nmap -p- ip-objective, do the job ?

[knotty valve]

Yes

[grim sparrow]

:hammer: laudabc0460#0 has been banned.

[grim sparrow]

[BAN] User left the discord server.

[safe oxide]

[winged nimbus]

OS in T lol

my brain stopped working

[safe oxide]

👀

[fringe dawn]

Yo

[safe oxide]

Hallo m8

[sick lance]

Weekly emails now. 😛

[frozen charm]

Boo

[frozen charm]

Preppin for any cert?

[pliant cairn]

you can't just say perchance

[sick lance]

Not really.

I have a PT1 attempt ready to start, but I'm procrastinating about that whilst trying to find a job.

[frozen charm]

:' (

[safe oxide]

👀

Time for thm to rival duolingo

[safe oxide]

Stop lookin at rooms kal

[pliant cairn]

im scared of the green owl

[frozen charm]

bruhh this rich presence is sucked

[safe oxide]

I heard the mascot died

[frozen charm]

when m in the rooms it shows lookin room

when i m outside of the room it shows dashboard

[fringe dawn]

Wsg?

[safe oxide]

Chillin wby

[fringe dawn]

Grocery shopping lol

[pliant cairn]

thats just propaganda. im sure that evil green bird is alive and ready to kidnap people who miss their streak

[safe oxide]

Lol i just completed mine

[safe oxide]

Gotta he safe

Physical security

[fringe dawn]

Its so damn shitty in this hot ahh weather

[safe oxide]

Def

Yooo trilingual person

[fringe dawn]

Yeah, well 2.25

My german is barely conversational

And grammar is all over the place

[safe oxide]

Yeyyy

Punjabi counts as a language lol

Learn that

Then itll be 3.25

[slow cloud]

my cousin needed help recovering some old data from his laptop and he wanted his downloads folder, you will not guess how many GB was in there

[fringe dawn]

I can speak punjabi, can't write it tho lol

[safe oxide]

👀

Hallo tim

[fringe dawn]

170?

[safe oxide]

Hehehe

Tim stopped the arch path?

[slow cloud]

more

[slow cloud]

still use it but the name was becoming a bit annoyin

[safe oxide]

369

[fringe dawn]

Bruh
My whole linux dual boot is 190 gigs

[slow cloud]

😭

[fringe dawn]

Broo

[safe oxide]

500 gigs

[fringe dawn]

Thats some serious study material

[safe oxide]

Naaah man

[slow cloud]

mostly movies from what i saw

all starstrek shows and all seasons etc

[safe oxide]

Lol

[slow cloud]

i was in shock

tbh

[fringe dawn]

He's a cultured man

[slow cloud]

never have i seen that many gbs in someones download folder

[safe oxide]

Well most people do like to catch fishes

Specially with license buying stuff

[fringe dawn]

Yea

[slow cloud]

i acquire everything legally

[sick lance]

https://cybersecuritynews.com/conti-ransomware-gang-exposed/

[fringe dawn]

A guy with ethics ic

[safe oxide]

Legally phoop

[fringe dawn]

I just don't like adobe lol

[safe oxide]

Hmmm the cancelation fee

[sick lance]

Nobody liked Adobe.

[safe oxide]

Its more than the buying fee

[fringe dawn]

Decent software spearheaded by bunch of very dislikable people

[safe oxide]

Capitalists

[fringe dawn]

I didn't even know about this scam untill pewds video

[safe oxide]

Welp ic a man of culture then

[fringe dawn]

[safe oxide]

[sick lance]

I managed to get out of their shitty subscription.

[safe oxide]

Yooo

Scruby wrote a strongly worded essay

[fringe dawn]

The only legitimate subscription i have is of perplexity

[sick lance]

I didn't,

I used Windows logs, screenshots and screen records to prove their shitty software was causing a BSoD.

[safe oxide]

Ahmm

Shushh

[sick lance]

So they have me a 10 month voucher to cancel the shitty subscription for free.

[safe oxide]

[fringe dawn]

Wait really?

How

[sick lance]

Documenting it all.

[fringe dawn]

I knew their software were memory hoggers but causing BSoD's is something new

[sick lance]

I can't remember why, I no longer have access to my college email

[fringe dawn]

That sucks ig

[sick lance]

None the less, I'll never be using Adobe again, unless for some reason my job somehow requires it.

[winged nimbus]

any gimpers in chat

gimps*

[round onyx]

i use krita

i haven't heard good things about gimp

[frozen charm]

@safe oxide

now see when i m out of the room it shows breaking stuff :' )

[winged nimbus]

it prob isn't the best, it is just what everyone uses lol\

[slow cloud]

ive heard good things

[winged nimbus]

i don't know how to gimp

[safe oxide]

You copied Dkobs code?

[frozen charm]

nah

he did after i did

[safe oxide]

[frozen charm]

its PreMID :' )

[safe oxide]

Lol

[winged nimbus]

yay the messages have been removed

[slow cloud]

also like pewdiepie and stuff that switched from photoshop to gimp with switching icons

[fringe dawn]

Krita is actually decent, i don't really do heavy image manipulation things, but for the basics, krita is pretty nifty

[safe oxide]

Isnt krita like illustrator equivalent

[round onyx]

i do digital art with it overall i like it so far

[winged nimbus]

i think krita isn't really intented to be a gimp alternative

[fringe dawn]

I use it like a buffed out ms paint

Lol

[frozen charm]

his name is abusive :' )

[winged nimbus]

did you see the messages they were sending

[fringe dawn]

Gimp is more like Photoshop replacement right?

[frozen charm]

nah

[winged nimbus]

yea

[safe oxide]

Gimp is intended for raster manipulation while krita foe vector

[frozen charm]

i wasnt here at tht time

[fringe dawn]

It was always so wonky for me

Maybe im biased towards kde software lol

[sick lance]

They were removed, so there is no point dragging it up again.

[winged nimbus]

on KDE's page krita is listed as for painting

[fringe dawn]

I m sure they had kolourpaint too

Or is it deprecated?

[winged nimbus]

they still have it

[fringe dawn]

Thats more like ms paint iirc

[winged nimbus]

yea

from the kde webpage

[fringe dawn]

But the ui/ux is a bit shitty imo

[winged nimbus]

i use kdenlive as my primary video editor

[knotty valve]

Yooo old-school MS Paint

[fringe dawn]

Krita is better in every way

[fringe dawn]

I don't do video editing much, but I've heard about davinci resolve

Ig its pretty popular

[winged nimbus]

i don't think davinci is foss

[safe oxide]

Tho its free

[fringe dawn]

I know they have a paid version too

[winged nimbus]

davinci is harder for beginners i think

[safe oxide]

Naaaa

[winged nimbus]

kden isn't as easy as capcut for an example but kden is wayy easier than davinci

[safe oxide]

Yupp

[safe oxide]

Tho kden isnt as powerful

[fringe dawn]

I used to use vegas pro, pretty good

[slow cloud]

paint.net is the best

[safe oxide]

So gotta do too many steps if youre doing complex stuff

[fringe dawn]

But its been like 5 years since

[slow cloud]

got earbuds yesterday, they can charge on solar their pretty cool

[winged nimbus]

kde have made litterally every tool you can think of lol

[safe oxide]

Yooo

[fringe dawn]

And most of them are comparable or even better than the competition imho

[blissful snow]

hi

[winged nimbus]

a lot of them replace the classic windows programs

[safe oxide]

Hallo

[round onyx]

paint.net website looks like a sus scam site but overall yeah the software is decent

[safe oxide]

Long tjme no see

[blissful snow]

hru

[blissful snow]

yep been outside mostly

[safe oxide]

Gr8 wby

[round onyx]

altho i only used it so far to export stuff to .dds

[blissful snow]

I'm good just tried

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-hi-hello-hey-shake-hands-rami-malek-gif-10551255

[safe oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/beefboys-andrew-miller-touch-grass-ordinary-things-youtube-gif-25610606

[blissful snow]

looking into buying pt1

[blissful snow]

lol

[fringe dawn]

Im saving up for sal1

[blissful snow]

Cool, I'm guessing your wanting to be or are something in soc?

[winged nimbus]

they have a tool for everything

[fringe dawn]

Yeah, im prepping for something blue team related

[fringe dawn]

Bruh drone control lol

Thats so niche

[blissful snow]

I wanted ceh butt its so expensive

[safe oxide]

Youre in india?

[blissful snow]

Nope

[winged nimbus]

they were talking about that cert in this channellike an hour and a bit ago

[safe oxide]

Interested in becoming a contracter

[blissful snow]

nope

[safe oxide]

It has value when working except with gov?

[fringe dawn]

I've heard ejpt and ecppt are good prerequisites to oscp

[blissful snow]

I guess so I'm not to sure.

[blissful snow]

oooo 599 not bad

[winged nimbus]

ejpt is also wayy more affordable

[fringe dawn]

I was saving up for btl1 but sal1 is cheaper with no big tradeoff lol

[fringe dawn]

Yeah, my friend is torn between ejpt and cpts

[safe oxide]

Cpts is exp

[fringe dawn]

But i heard its pretty value for money

[winged nimbus]

i think i might do SC-200 next

[blissful snow]

should i go for ejpt or pt1

[slow cloud]

ayy me too

i need to start studying for that one but im lazy

[winged nimbus]

i think ill be ready to start learning it once i am done with soc level 1 thm

[slow cloud]

i wanna do the defending azure path first

but im having some trouble coordinating with my colleagues when to get it

[blissful snow]

Samee one now I'm focused on crets,ctfs and projects but I haven't start yet 💀

[slow cloud]

im just too lazy and not motivated to do anything cyber related and it sucks ngl

[drifting violet]

guys the room "burpsuite: the basics" can i do it with burp suite community?

[flint sluice]

Yes

[winged nimbus]

yes

[drifting violet]

alr thanks

[safe oxide]

Ejot goes on sales

[blissful snow]

smae that why i haven't be here as much

[mortal ether]

yes

[blissful snow]

any specific time?

[slow cloud]

im thinking of drifting a bit more towards threat intel

[blissful snow]

Cool

[mortal ether]

i did 5 burp suite rooms, all without pro version

[slow cloud]

yeah i guess, idk what i wanna do in cyber tbh

[blissful snow]

I was thinking about malware devleopment

[safe oxide]

Never thought of buying so never tracked it down tho

[blissful snow]

Yeah kinda hard to find out

I still don't know

[blissful snow]

ah ok

[safe oxide]

Black fridays prolly

[winged nimbus]

Stole this from linkedin

[blissful snow]

loool

[slow cloud]

real

[fringe dawn]

Burnt out maybe?

[slow cloud]

Could be, idk

not really getting any fun out of games and stuff

[fringe dawn]

I am too, kinda, from soc stuff, im looking to start something about devsecops

[fringe dawn]

Yeah, ctfs used to be fun, now not

[storm storm]

unplug the power cord when hackers hack your computer

[sick lance]

And lose evidence!?

Unplug RJ45 or Airplane mode.

[winged nimbus]

take out the ethernet cable and plunge a screwdriver into the network card

[fringe dawn]

I think cutting off the contaminated systems from network should be an early step

[knotty valve]

Could be a burn out

[fringe dawn]

Screwdriver works too ig lmao

[knotty valve]

Try stepping back for the month and go back at it next month and see how you feel

[fringe dawn]

Could be, could be because im not good at those, they're red team based, im not good at exploiting stuff lol

[knotty valve]

Neither am I dw

[winged nimbus]

am i lazy or burnt out writing reports

[fringe dawn]

Nah writing reports is fun

[knotty valve]

They're boring imho

[fringe dawn]

Maybe im too corporate

[knotty valve]

My job all of last week was just paperwork 😭

[slow cloud]

I dont like writing reports that much but my writing skills arent that profesional so that makes it not so much fun

since ill get everything i make back a couple times to make changes

[fringe dawn]

You're employed in the field?

[knotty valve]

Yeah

[fringe dawn]

Yo thats great

[knotty valve]

Blue in a SATCOM company

[fringe dawn]

All of the reports i have written are mocks lol, like for forage and shit

[slow cloud]

blue goated

[knotty valve]

They've got me going through some red team stuff

[fringe dawn]

I've never actually wrote a report in the real world

[knotty valve]

I'm surprisingly good at social engineering and getting into places I shouldn't be

[slow cloud]

i have helped here and there at work with some reports but it wasnt that amzin

[fringe dawn]

I can write a mean phishing email

[slow cloud]

erm thats illegal

[fringe dawn]

The job market in my country just sucks

[knotty valve]

Can you convince a scammer into hiring you so you can tear them down from the inside?

[slow cloud]

india? if you want to share ofcourse.

[knotty valve]

Did that a few years ago

[slow cloud]

i hear from a lot of indians that its shit

[blissful snow]

Did it come naturally or with practice

[knotty valve]

Bit of both

[fringe dawn]

Yeah😭

[blissful snow]

cool im good at social engineering but the biggest problem is anxiety

[knotty valve]

I can be very apathetic

And since I was a kid I had to lie to be safe

[fringe dawn]

Nah, i did manage to get admin access to my college's server by posing as the IT dept, classic

[sick lance]

We're treading on a very fine line...

[knotty valve]

So I got really good at mimicking emotions and lying which played off on Phys pentests

[fringe dawn]

Well thats a story

[sick lance]

Social Eng is fine.

Discussing how tearing down a scammer campany from the inside isn't.

[winged nimbus]

just think to yourself that everyone wants to sleep with you

pretty easy way to boost confidence

[knotty valve]

Yeah I'm not gonna go into details on the how anyway lol

[blissful snow]

....

[sick lance]

I'd prefer it wasn't discussed at all.

[knotty valve]

Will do

[slow cloud]

[winged nimbus]

proven science backed method

[blissful snow]

Just wondering if you could answer this, why aren't people like scammer payback in jail?

[sick lance]

🤷

It could be real, it could be fake.

[blissful snow]

Yeah.

[sick lance]

Could work with the police.

[knotty valve]

Could also be done in accordance with law enforcement as well

[sick lance]

All the possibilities.

[knotty valve]

Jinx

[blissful snow]

I always wonder why they could and I couldn't lol

[slow cloud]

i mean you can

[knotty valve]

A lot of YT vids on it are staged tbh

[blissful snow]

Without setting stuff up.

[knotty valve]

If you're working with law enforcement you're generally under a strict NDA

[sick lance]

Also, another thing to consider, is a company who performs illegal activities going to report they were hacked?

[knotty valve]

This is also a general statement overall

[knotty valve]

Depends on how good your cover/front is

[winged nimbus]

one of my lecturers talks about how he wished his team could hack the hackers

[blissful snow]

Yeah but won't that start an investigation.

[knotty valve]

Or they could act in a method to bring down the person with them

[slow cloud]

tbh i think law enforcement wont do that much or wont be able to do that much in a call center somewhere overseas, btu i could be wrong

[blissful snow]

No wonder I never actually see them hacking.

[knotty valve]

Feds will occasionally start a front and don't get investigated by other foreign depts

It depends on a lot of factors

[fringe dawn]

Yeah, something about jurisdiction and stuff

[blissful snow]

Other police depts

[knotty valve]

They forward it to the foreign agencies instead

[sick lance]

Is Pierogi actally a fed?

Who knows.

[knotty valve]

Unless they have reason to engage, i.e. interpol

[blissful snow]

yes

💯

[fringe dawn]

Who's he?

[sick lance]

Scammer Payback.

[fringe dawn]

Ohh

[slow cloud]

people say pierogi also kinda sucks

[knotty valve]

Scammer Payback

[blissful snow]

oop i thought we were talking about food loool

[fringe dawn]

I like scammer revolt more

[knotty valve]

So does the SOC analyst I work with

[blissful snow]

My dog is currently trying to run in his sleep 🤣

[slow cloud]

sorry for the ghostping

ashlynn

[knotty valve]

Rumours are rumours

[slow cloud]

yeah i didnt wanna send

but pressed enter accidentaly

[blissful snow]

whats ghostping

[slow cloud]

a ping thats deleted

[blissful snow]

ohh

[slow cloud]

like i ping you so you get a ping notifcation but there is no ping

[blissful snow]

I remember i was wondering on a project a welll back that ping everyone in a server but i gave up because it was breaking all types of rules

I had no clue what tos atm lol

[knotty valve]

Lol

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-sit-rock-скала-скаласидит-скаламем-gif-23938289

[marsh lark]

@sick lance

[grim sparrow]

:hammer: johnson019725#0 has been banned.

[winged nimbus]

big text is needed on the selection page you get when you join the server saying we do not do account recovery services

[slow cloud]

people wont read it

just like they dont read the rules

they dont careee

[marsh lark]

😭

[drifting canopy]

No, but their videos show it

[rapid merlin]

says in the rules, but they didnt read anyway

[drifting canopy]

but like i dont think police actually cares about Scammer Payback just hacking scammers without stealing stuff

[sick lance]

People don't read the rules, what makes you think they will read that?

[drifting canopy]

and i mean most of the time they dont even "destroy" their computers

they just scare them

[winged nimbus]

like one of these pages that just says it

[sick lance]

THm does have that.

[cobalt kernel]

No announcement on PT1 selection to win free access?

[winged nimbus]

what is required to get it

[sick lance]

Only the winners will be E-mailed when they're E-mailed.

[slow cloud]

your server needs to be a community i think

then you can set that up

[winged nimbus]

what are the requirements for that

[cobalt kernel]

No luck then.

[slow cloud]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360047132851-Enabling-Your-Community-Server @winged nimbus

[sick lance]

It's not the 3rd of June.

Infact, it's only 09:32.

[cobalt kernel]

I thought is 1st June.

thank for info.

[winged nimbus]

just looked at it, it is fairly easy

[slow cloud]

it is

[marsh lark]

yeah, not too difficult

[winged nimbus]

THM already is

[slow cloud]

yeah

[marsh lark]

yup

[slow cloud]

^^^

scrubs already mentioned that

[winged nimbus]

oh i am blind

i thoughe they said doesn't

[slow cloud]

but people dont read

[marsh lark]

sadly 😦

[sick lance]

The irony. 😂

[slow cloud]

i also didnt the first time

oopsy

[marsh lark]

at least you didn't break the rules 🙂

[slow cloud]

not bad enough to get banned yet

[marsh lark]

ahh

[slow cloud]

people just, next next next finish

[marsh lark]

yeah, people are like "don't care, just let me in"

[slow cloud]

also people coming here "where to start" while #start-here exists

i dont have any problems with them asking

but check the server first

[marsh lark]

also server guide

[lapis berry]

hey guys my ctf is ready

i wil send the link in a few minutes

[slow cloud]

Your ctf?

[lapis berry]

yes

last time i talked i mentoned i was making a ctf

[sick lance]

Please don't advertise your CTF here.

It's literally in our no advertising rules.

[slow cloud]

oh could be, idk

[sick lance]

And if it's a THM created room, then don't advertise that in this server.

[lapis berry]

i used it though the ctf builder

[marsh lark]

in thm?

then, I believe you have to send it to the tryhackme team to check it

[lapis berry]

yes

[sick lance]

You don't.

The CTF builder just takes a topic and chooses random THM rooms and "builds" a CTF.

[marsh lark]

ahh, I see

[sick lance]

@lapis berry The disappearing is intentional you know.

[lapis berry]

not really

[sick lance]

It is, I keep deleting it.

I've asked you not to share it.

[drifting canopy]

Guys should i choose new password

[lapis berry]

....

[drifting canopy]

bro "password" has been breached over 21 million times 💀

[lapis berry]

Yes

[drifting canopy]

this one is "azerty"

lets try qwerty

[lapis berry]

don't use anything from wordslists

[drifting canopy]

qwerty is 12,4m...

[drifting canopy]

Im just joking around bro...

i was just testing the haveibeenpwnd.com

[lapis berry]

you have got me

[drifting canopy]

the n word has been breached 130K times... omfg

[lapis berry]

yeah people like convinece

[drifting canopy]

this is getting out of hand

what is wrong with people

[sick lance]

Let's not go down this route please.

[lapis berry]

oh no its almost 2 and i have to finish forensics

[drifting canopy]

alright

ooh bananas has been breached 80K times.... nice fruit

My 3 passwords arent pawned!!! yay

First image is how it looks on the tryhackme page, second is how it looks now. They really modernized huh

looks nice

[lapis berry]

my favorite pentest is on roblox

[drifting canopy]

...

lol

[blissful snow]

yep

[drifting canopy]

is there a pentest room about rblx?

did you know there are files with the .rblx extension? its a file that contains an entire roblox minigame

[slow cloud]

wow

[blissful snow]

Nope

[slow cloud]

who wouldve thought

[frozen charm]

:' )

[marsh lark]

who would have?

[lapis berry]

i found a vurnebility were i could log into any account

[slow cloud]

i can also login into any website (with user credentials)

[slow cloud]

cool

how does it workk

[lapis berry]

i found sql injection bro and i sent it to roblox to patch it

[slow cloud]

roblox fell off

[fringe dawn]

When was it ever up lol

[slow cloud]

when i was younger it was cool

[fringe dawn]

Thats nostalgia speaking

[slow cloud]

most likely but it wasnt as bad as it is now

or at least not the games i was playing

[lapis berry]

yeah

[fringe dawn]

I tried Roblox during the lockdown, just felt a bit, idk, weird maybe

For the lack of better word

I thought the community will be like minecraft

Oh it wasn't

[placid hatch]

Me too

[lapis berry]

bro sometimes cyber will make you fell like you want to give up

[fringe dawn]

Windows hardening makes me feel like this

I can relate so much

[wraith fjord]

Is thm down?

[fringe dawn]

Idts

I can access it

[wraith fjord]

Click on search bar

[zealous shell]

What is HFB1 challenge?

[lapis berry]

hmmmmhmmmmmmmm is someone ddosing thm?

[marsh lark]

I can access thm

[fringe dawn]

Nah, no problem for me

[lapis berry]

made clear someone is ddosing thm

[marsh lark]

who made that clear?

[knotty valve]

Their site is responding fine

[lapis berry]

looks like someone stoped ddosing thm

[drifting canopy]

so basically, a hacker can just search whatever they wanna hack in the CVE, and they get all the ways to do it? 💀

[fringe dawn]

Well that is why it is recommended to always be on the latest security patch

[knotty valve]

Usually all CVEs will have a patch before publication

[fringe dawn]

Cuz like 95% of cve's are fixed in the latest patches

+-5%

[lapis berry]

thats basicly a recipe to ALMOST analiate all programs

[fringe dawn]

Wait till you access exploit-db lol

[knotty valve]

Lmao

[slow cloud]

oh yeah im talking like 10 years ago

[knotty valve]

Or the trickest CVE list

Where it's PoC galor

[lapis berry]

@fringe dawn i remember whne i used to watch videos by network chuck on how to ''google hack''

[fringe dawn]

10 years is a long time breh

[slow cloud]

truee

next year roblox turns 20 years old

[wraith fjord]

Well, i am having issues so i just putted a query over #site-support

[fringe dawn]

Network chuck really helped my peak my interest in the early days, i like that guy a lot

[fringe dawn]

Yeah, whenever i hear about minecraft's anniversaries, it makes me feel so old

[blissful snow]

same

[lapis berry]

im og of roblox im og of among us i am og of bendy i am og of hello neighbor i am og of minecraft i am og of roblox i am og of beluga

[fringe dawn]

Og begula was peak begula

2020-2021

[lapis berry]

practicly no one is og of mario currently 😉

[drifting canopy]

lmao

[knotty valve]

I remember doing beta for hello neighbour

And finding weird and wonderful ways to do things

[lapis berry]

i loved that game

[knotty valve]

Like no-clipping out of the map

[lapis berry]

yeah and making the neighbor harmless

[knotty valve]

I found that by messing about and I managed to get on top of something I shouldn't have and launching myself off a tree

Was very fun

[knotty valve]

You could make it so the neighbour got stuck out of the map too

I believe it was with the fire extinguisher

[lapis berry]

• hn3 is just around the corner

[knotty valve]

Release had some weird bugs, like the collision detection for some asset was wider than it needed to be so you could stand in the air

But it only worked if you were on top of the asset first

[knotty valve]

Really?

Damn

Didn't even know HN2 was released lmao

[lapis berry]

i mean we are waiting for the alphas to start

[knotty valve]

Ahh

I hope they do public beta and alphas again

Oh damn

[lapis berry]

yeah we have prototype 1 and 2

[knotty valve]

How broken are they

[lapis berry]

yeah

[knotty valve]

So very

I'd be surprised if the prototypes weren't horrendously broken tbh

[lapis berry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHKdFagI3vI

[knotty valve]

That giant blob is supposed to be a storm? 🤣

True prototype behaviour

[blissful snow]

for some reason every time i heard prototype i think of poppy play time

[knotty valve]

Lmao

[knotty valve]

Wasn't the prototype in PPT an actual person like the doctor?

[blissful snow]

Not sure yet we haven't seen him still

[fringe dawn]

When did they release 2 bruh

[knotty valve]

I thought it was hinted to in all little lore drops in the first three chapters

Wait

[blissful snow]

Oh I'm not that far into the lore lol.

[knotty valve]

No cause in three the prototype was created in the notes

[lapis berry]

yeah

[blissful snow]

I remember the doctor being the robot

[lapis berry]

from dev ganim to 3

[knotty valve]

It's like the Prototype from FNAF but made of humans

Or well

Was a human like all the toys

I should replay chapters 1-3

[lapis berry]

the neighbor had a sad life

[knotty valve]

I forgot why the neighbour kidnapped people

I remember his wife died

[blissful snow]

he need another wife

[knotty valve]

Fr

[blissful snow]

lol

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I'm currently single I can be the crazy wife /hj

[blissful snow]

You must have a good memory to navigate that hosue

[knotty valve]

I barely remember how to get home

[lapis berry]

and bendy

[knotty valve]

I don't remember much of bendy

[finite basalt]

You know as much as I hate sleeping, I kinda appreciate it when I'm tired, and when I'm travelling it's like a fast travel or teleport

[lapis berry]

bendy and hello neighbor coloborated once

[blissful snow]

bendy scared me as a kid

[finite basalt]

I fell asleep for an hour and a bit of a two hour train journey and woke up half way there 😂

[knotty valve]

FNAF scared me but not Aliens

Or resident evil

[blissful snow]

I never fall asleep on the train I don't trust no one plus I miss the stop lol

[knotty valve]

Funny animatronic jumpscare somehow was worse in my kid brain but literal killing machines and zombies didn't bother me

[finite basalt]

I just set an alarm but I'm also a light sleeper so I can listen out for the calls at each stop and feel it

For me sleeping's not far off resting my eyes if there's anything going on around me

[knotty valve]

I struggle to get to sleep or to stay asleep

Sometimes my body refuses sleep for multiple days

[blissful snow]

oohhh

[lapis berry]

i am doing elbandito currently

[finite basalt]

See Im currently off down south for a couple days while I start a new job, ideally I would've slept, that did not happen

So I've had an hour and a half on the train, had a double espresso 2 hours ago and have two redbulls with me and a slice of cake 😂

When I hit the hotel later I'm gonna be knocked out

[blissful snow]

100%

🤣

btw what type of cake

[finite basalt]

Raspberry jam and coconut

Banging

Am kinda excited and nervous, I didn't know what to wear so I went for dress trousers and a shirt and I don't actually know what I'll be cracking on with today. The outfits a sleeper build, I'm wearing a hoody over the top rn

[blissful snow]

picture?

[sick lance]

The games right?

The movies were not scary.

[knotty valve]

All of the above

[blissful snow]

There's a movie!?

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I watched them when I was 5-8

And played them

[finite basalt]

Can't while I'm on the train, I'll send a picture when I get to the hotel this evening if I remember

[knotty valve]

Multiple

I think there's 9 movies in total now

Including the animated one