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leaden tusk
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I'm joking lol

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Starmie's okay

grand iron
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...maybe Marill? Cos then, got a Special attack and a Physical attacker? But I like Type Diversity. :D

leaden tusk
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Let's see if I can remember where you can catch Slowpoke in every region

grand iron
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There is another reason too...I'm treating the areas up to a later gym as the spots I can catch from following a gym battle.

leaden tusk
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Gen 1: Seafoam Islands

grand iron
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And that section with the Abundant Shrine?

leaden tusk
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And Celadon

grand iron
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...yeah, Cobalion and Virizion are available then. lol

leaden tusk
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And the Route South of Lavender Town

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Gen II: Slowpoke Well (obviously)

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Gen III: Trade from FRLG

grand iron
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Hold up! You missed one in Gen 1!

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Safari Zone!

leaden tusk
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Oh yeah

pine arrow
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I know nobody will care but I'm tempted to name and shame the worst designed mons from each gen at this point

leaden tusk
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Gen IV: The route in between the Resort Area and Fight Area

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I think

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Gen V: Abundant Shrine

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Gen VI: I BELIEVE you can catch them on the route where the legendary bird cave is

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Gen VII: Pretty much everywhere

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Oh, I forgot ORAS: certain Mirage Islands

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Specifically cave ones iirc

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Gen VIII: On the beach in front of the train Station on the Isle of Armor

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BDSP: Underground Caves
Gen IX: the beach next to Levincia, and Lake Casseroya

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@grand iron How'd I do?

grand iron
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I dunno! lol

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I only remember Safari Zone cos I caught my Slowpoke there often in Blue.

leaden tusk
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Ok, I'll look it up

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I was right for Gen 1

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Except for forgetting Safari Zone

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I was right for Gen II (but forgot Tohjo Falls)

kind fox
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ceruledge is in paldea i think

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How'd i do!

leaden tusk
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Was 100% correct for Gen III

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Was COMPLETELY wrong for Gen IV

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Was 100% correct for Gen V

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Was correct for Gen VI (though I forgot Route 12)

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Was correct for ORAS

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Wasn't technically correct for Gen VII

kind fox
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but where is slowpoke in Pokémon: XD Gale of Darkness?
Checkmate atheists

leaden tusk
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Was correct for Gen VIII

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Correct for BDSP (though I forgot about the Poké Radar spot)

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And I got 2/4 locations for Gen IX

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So let's see: I'll add that up and get a percentage

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12/22

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55%

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That's a failing grade...

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Though considering I was relying entirely on memory; I don't think I did that bad

grand iron
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OK, time to pick...Elekid or Magnemite...

pine arrow
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Question, can the Elekid actually fully evolve?

grand iron
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...going with Elekid. Light Screen via Level Up is VERY valuable with my TM rule.

grand iron
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But it's not like Electabuzz is a weakling. Hell, Eviolite Electabuzz might be a touch better at times than Electivire.

pine arrow
grand iron
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For me, Light Screen is the deal closer. lol

pine arrow
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I thought the Magnemite line got it, but apparently not until Gen VII

grand iron
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Plus, Electabuzz learns Thunderpunch and Thunderbolt by level up.

pine arrow
grand iron
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Which saves those moves for others...oh yeah, treating Move Tutors as a one-time use as well.

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Didn't affect the next catch either way. Was thinking between Trapinch and Sandile, both of which beat the electric types. lol

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...actually...will give Magnemite a chance.

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If any have Sturdy trigger, then I'll capture them.

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lol First one had Sturdy. Lehnsherr caught.

pine arrow
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Terrible mockup of what I kinda mean

leaden tusk
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Found some of my rare Pokémon cards:

livid star
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Why is it all slowpoke Oatchi_eyes

leaden tusk
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Also, technically it's not ALL the Slowpoke line; Psyduck, Jirachi, and Lillie are also there

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I like how the Mega Slowbro EX card's design is based on the OG TCG cards from Gen I because it was released as part of the 20th anniversary expansion

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Same with the Slowbro Spirit Link

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And the regular Slowbro EX

orchid trellis
livid star
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Erm that’s actually “slowpoke and Psyduck” not just psyduck

orchid trellis
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Erm that's actually "we have calcium in our bones"

livid star
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I will never have calcium in my bones you can’t gaslight me

leaden tusk
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Here's a comparison of a Gen 1 card to Mega Slowbro EX. See the similarities?

leaden tusk
pine arrow
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Why is a trainer card with the mons anyway?

leaden tusk
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Because it's a rare full-art

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And as you probably already know, I'm a big fan of Lillie

nocturne marsh
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what kind of fan........................

orchid trellis
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i dont think the calcium gif can save us from this one

kind fox
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what's in our bones again?

pine arrow
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Bone fluid

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Wait don't bones actually generate blood?

nocturne marsh
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your bones are always wet

uncut tundra
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shit you're right oh wow

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i'm so stupid i thought the heart produced blood

pine arrow
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Doesn't it just move the blood around to carry oxygen to the cells from the lungs?

uncut tundra
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yea

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it's just a pump

livid star
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Dang turns out I need my bones

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I should get them back

pine arrow
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Isn't it kinda weird that our bodies are kinda composed of stuff that makes up rocks and metal, just at different amounts?

livid star
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We are all rocks

pine arrow
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So if we're rocks, does that mean that all golems are actually flesh golems?

leaden tusk
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At least according to my mom, who has a nursing degree

nocturne marsh
pine arrow
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Technically yes, very very distantly related

So yeah, slapping a large pumpkin on a slab of meat might create a guy

kind fox
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Thought guzma is by far my favorite from that gen

livid star
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Haven’t played gen 7 but Guzma is awesome

nocturne marsh
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guzma makes me want to play a pokemon game

kind fox
pine arrow
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Alola probably has some of my favourite NPC characters in general

leaden tusk
kind fox
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But she's genuinely annoying

leaden tusk
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Wouldn't know, still haven't played the games

kind fox
leaden tusk
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I've told the story as to why I haven't played them yet multiple times, you know the story right?

kind fox
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...you have?

pine arrow
kind fox
leaden tusk
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It's still gone over 6 years later

kind fox
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Aren't you in your late 20s?

leaden tusk
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No, I'm 23

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Almost 24

kind fox
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did you like do drugs or something at the end of highschool???

leaden tusk
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No

uncut tundra
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what's that question lol

leaden tusk
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Bruh, I haven't even tried alcohol b4, let alone drugs

uncut tundra
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you should at least try alcohol just to know what it's like

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i tried it, really didn't like it

nocturne marsh
uncut tundra
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no don't

livid star
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Variety is the spice of life

uncut tundra
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jesus

leaden tusk
nocturne marsh
leaden tusk
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Though I'll probably try a drink eventually

uncut tundra
# livid star Variety is the spice of life

actually no Variety is an American magazine owned by Penske Media Corporation. It was founded by Sime Silverman in New York City in 1905 as a weekly newspaper reporting on theater and vaudeville.

nocturne marsh
livid star
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Dang I stupid Kirby_Noooooo

uncut tundra
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do people really call it "new york city"

leaden tusk
nocturne marsh
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Can we stop treating drunk driving as a punching bag? Seriously, y'all need to get over that

uncut tundra
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..what

leaden tusk
nocturne marsh
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how hard is it to come up with a new name

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instead of just reusing new york

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which isnt even original because theres an old york

uncut tundra
pine arrow
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Be original and make a 'new' version of a place that doesn't exist, like New Zealand

nocturne marsh
uncut tundra
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oh

nocturne marsh
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just how theres a country called america in the continent of america

uncut tundra
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so you guys use city to differentiate both

leaden tusk
nocturne marsh
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not a continent

leaden tusk
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Yes it is

kind fox
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not again

livid star
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Nuh uh

uncut tundra
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meanwhile us outside of the US we don't care about your states just like you guys don't care about fucking La Creuse so we call it New York

leaden tusk
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North America and South America

nocturne marsh
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not continents

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america is one continent

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srry to break it to you

leaden tusk
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Uh no

uncut tundra
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both are taught in school

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wait no there's 6 continents hold on

pine arrow
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Continents are messy

leaden tusk
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North America is one continent, and so is South America

uncut tundra
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antartica
asia
europe
america
oceania

nocturne marsh
uncut tundra
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i'm missing one

nocturne marsh
kind fox
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also North America iirc

uncut tundra
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hmm

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right africa

nocturne marsh
uncut tundra
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forgot africa lol

pine arrow
uncut tundra
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but also wikipedia makes the distinction between north and south america

nocturne marsh
leaden tusk
pine arrow
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Yeah if it's done by plates then it makes even less sense

nocturne marsh
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what is central america

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if you even knew it existed

uncut tundra
nocturne marsh
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yeah man

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modern english

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someone messed with it

pine arrow
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If we're being real, there's only four continents, America, Afroeurasia, Australia and Antarctica

uncut tundra
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"australia"

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oceania mate

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and where's africa

leaden tusk
uncut tundra
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oh afroeurasia

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hm

uncut tundra
nocturne marsh
nocturne marsh
uncut tundra
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oh shit

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nevermind

livid star
uncut tundra
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what's this

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what's the squiggly bit connecting the two americas

pine arrow
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Panama

leaden tusk
nocturne marsh
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??????

uncut tundra
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what's getting swallowed by the sea in 2050

nocturne marsh
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how do you

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what

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wtf

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how do you separate it in two

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like perfect half

kind fox
nocturne marsh
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and how do you make it so its not a bitch to specify if its north america the continent or north america the division

leaden tusk
nocturne marsh
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you said half

livid star
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(I thought it separated at the Panama Canal?)

nocturne marsh
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artificial

uncut tundra
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idk like that

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the red shape forms a shape

kind fox
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Central America is part of the North American continent because that's what my teachers said

nocturne marsh
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your teachers are from the usa so i dont like em

leaden tusk
uncut tundra
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red shape is satisfying to my eyes therefore it's a satisfying way to make it a continent

nocturne marsh
nocturne marsh
nocturne marsh
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holy fuck t rex

leaden tusk
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Next you're gonna say that you're a flat earther

nocturne marsh
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why does everyone keep saying that

kind fox
pine arrow
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Massive leap in logic, Bubba

leaden tusk
livid star
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No u

kind fox
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"Haha American dumb"
To
"Errmmm you're dumb"

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wha

nocturne marsh
leaden tusk
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Should I block this guy? Cuz I'm thinking about it

uncut tundra
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why is this a square

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who lives in Wyoming

nocturne marsh
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no one

uncut tundra
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your state is a square

pine arrow
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You know, another reason why plate tectonics shouldn't factor into continents is because by that definition, most of Japan is part of North America and most of the Carribean isn't a part of any existing continent

kind fox
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Wyoming isn't real

pine arrow
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Chunk error

leaden tusk
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Ohio isn't real either

kind fox
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alright joke over

nocturne marsh
uncut tundra
leaden tusk
pine arrow
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Also fun fact, due to the loophole of Greenland's very nature, it also means that Brazil is next to Europe

kind fox
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How to improve the US step 1

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Megachusetts

nocturne marsh
pine arrow
somber basin
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Pokemon is a cool game

leaden tusk
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Let's talk about it

kind fox
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Massachusetts should be the next region

nocturne marsh
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pikachu should be the next region

kind fox
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Imagine going finishing and a sinistea appears

nocturne marsh
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every pokemon is him

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all starters are pika clones

livid star
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Wtf is there to do in Massachusetts

uncut tundra
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damn La Creuse is gone

nocturne marsh
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theyre all electric type

pine arrow
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Make Chile the next Pokémon region so they have to make a region that's just stupid long

kind fox
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finally a reason for the game to be a straight line

leaden tusk
uncut tundra
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is La Creuse represented in Kalos

nocturne marsh
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the boss is also in a hallway

pine arrow
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Lowkey them not making Peru into a region is a missed opportunity, already has a place named after a mon

nocturne marsh
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new pichu evolution

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machu

pine arrow
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Dedicated an entire area to this dude

leaden tusk
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Can the next region be based on Antarctica

nocturne marsh
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wtf would be in that

leaden tusk
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Nothing

pine arrow
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Cthulhu stuff

kind fox
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Ice type Pokémon yaaaaay!

leaden tusk
livid star
nocturne marsh
kind fox
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I love the worst type in the series!!!!!!!

nocturne marsh
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the devil slumbers in the arctic

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he awakens

pine arrow
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They could add the blood waterfall in the Antarctica region

nocturne marsh
uncut tundra
leaden tusk
pine arrow
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The amount of times in media there's been an ancient monster/alien/advanced tech/lost civilisation/extradimension stuff just in Antarctica is kinda crazy

somber basin
leaden tusk
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Is it lava or something?

somber basin
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Gives me the heebees

pine arrow
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It's actually liquid iron oxide IIRC

leaden tusk
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Ah

somber basin
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So blood

kind fox
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mop it up

uncut tundra
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yeah clean that stuff

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SCP-looking waterfall

pine arrow
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Natural blood generator

somber basin
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actually

kind fox
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scp mentioned, im leaving

somber basin
uncut tundra
leaden tusk
nocturne marsh
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can they add my oc catakeeper to the game

livid star
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Yes they should it looks really good

uncut tundra
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how come you make banger stuff

nocturne marsh
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i steal from creepypastas

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and also im in a groupchat for pokemon design

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i asked people here and no one wnated to effin join !

uncut tundra
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the second one is just kyurem

pine arrow
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You know, if it wasn't for Area Zero in Scarlet/Violet, they could've done something like that for an Antarctica region with a 'hollow Earth' type deal

pine arrow
nocturne marsh
uncut tundra
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mixed in with uhh the dragon from gen 5 no one cares about

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oh right

nocturne marsh
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i tried making it not look empty

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i should try again

uncut tundra
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this one by VivinkArt

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they just put the boy in A pose and gave up lol
could've given him a cool pose

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this artist did and he looks very cool

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didn't change him that much

uncut tundra
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damn but wait you draw stuff that's so cool

nocturne marsh
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they broke his neck and that makes him cooler

uncut tundra
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yeah that's what i'm sayng

nocturne marsh
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i love creatures with fucked up posture

uncut tundra
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game freak just made him A-pose

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it sucks

nocturne marsh
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i dont like most redesigns of this guy

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because 90% of them lose what the original was aiming for

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godzilla and one big spike to represent excalibur

uncut tundra
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oh that's what the spike is

nocturne marsh
uncut tundra
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i thought it was godzilla's.. spine thingy

nocturne marsh
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it is

uncut tundra
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oh okay

nocturne marsh
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but they only have one for the excalibur joke

uncut tundra
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ohh

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gotcha

pine arrow
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Some people speculate that the official art for some of the mons was just drawn over the 3D model

uncut tundra
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i mean

nocturne marsh
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i love that he evolves in the year the first godzilla movie released

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he has the potential to be the coolesr mon why does he SUCK

uncut tundra
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shoot it's 3 am here gotta bail

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gotta sleep or i'll die

pine arrow
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Tempted to make a regional dex for an Antarctica region out of existing mons and seeing how much variety I could get

wicked bloom
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i fixed Baxcalibur

unique moth
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i fixed Charizard

uncut tundra
nocturne marsh
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grin emoji

pine arrow
nocturne marsh
pine arrow
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There's Hydreigon, not an Electric type, but yeah was thinking of that as well

nocturne marsh
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i dont remember was godzilla frozen in antarctica during king kong vs godzilla

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or was it another icey terrain

nocturne marsh
leaden tusk
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This Shiny Charm of mine is INSANE! I literally found two shinies randomly in the wild without hunting them a little over a week a part from one another!

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Tfw you find a shiny while roaming the overworld at 2 AM

pine arrow
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Gen VI moment

leaden tusk
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My shiny Tsareena is now maxed out and battle ready!

grand iron
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Was about to say I gave you an example of how to use Gogoat in our battles too, but Sylveon deleted it's existence. Wakaha

leaden tusk
grand iron
# leaden tusk Yeah. Can you send the set anyways?

Can't directly send it ATM, but can detail it decently...

Moves: Horn Leech, Earthquake, Rock Slide, Bulk Up
Ability: Sap Sipper
Nature: Careful
EVs: Max HP, max SpDef, 4...I think Speed?
Tera Type: Ground

grand iron
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OK, back to my White 2 run. Current team is Roast the Pignite, Misty the Psyduck, Lehnsherr the Magnemite and Fuecoco the Sandile.

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Elesa's next and...well, I'm nowhere near ready to face her team. Awkward_Gengar

pine arrow
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Random question but which Pokémon is the closest to the concept of chaos from a lore point of view?

uncut tundra
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giratina ?

pine arrow
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Yeah probably

grand iron
# uncut tundra giratina ?

I feel like there is one closer somewhere in the series...but I don't actively follow the lore heavily so can't think of who.

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Also, just realised an issue with my plan for a capture in my run just now.

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Was going to go for Spheal or Lapras, following a Woobat catch, to replace my Golduck. But my Surf HM is single use in this run...to capture one of them requires teaching it to Golduck and not being able to teach it to a new Water Type so...just sticking with the duck now instead.

nocturne marsh
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what pokemon should they add

uncut tundra
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more ghost inhabiting every day items

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i just love this concept so much

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love it so much my favorite is literally lampent

orchid trellis
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more every day items that arent inhabited by ghosts and are just creatures

uncut tundra
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nooo

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they've expired those no other animal exists

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they've done every animal

nocturne marsh
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wrong wheres the raccoon pokemon

uncut tundra
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zigzagoon

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linoone

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obstagoon

nocturne marsh
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none of the ones you listed are raccoons lol just looked them up

uncut tundra
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very clearly a raccoon

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the others okay they're not i'll admit

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but that's a raccoon

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if that's not a raccoon then idk what raccoon is

nocturne marsh
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no

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its based on a tanuki

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completely different species

uncut tundra
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lol stop

nocturne marsh
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im not joking

uncut tundra
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tanukis are raccoon are they not

nocturne marsh
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no??

uncut tundra
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what

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then why are they linked

nocturne marsh
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cuz they look similar

uncut tundra
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why do people call tanuki mario raccoon mario

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so ? if they look similar they're at least related

nocturne marsh
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no???

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rabbits and hares look almost identical but arent closely related at all

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lizards are closer to humans than salamanders and theyre still similar looking

nocturne marsh
uncut tundra
hearty thunder
nocturne marsh
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wiki is wrong lol

uncut tundra
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why would nature make two identical things and make them separate

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doesn't make sense

nocturne marsh
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they just happen to evolve similar traits

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cuz it works

uncut tundra
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they're both on all fours they both have long ears they both do little hoppity hops

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they're both the same size

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they're the same shit

nocturne marsh
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yeah try breeding them

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see how that goes

uncut tundra
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rabbit's babies are born blind and naked, that's about the only difference with hares

nocturne marsh
uncut tundra
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whatever i don't know biology i'm not gonna pretend i know my thing cause i don't

nocturne marsh
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nononono no one on the internet lies

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they just make mistakes

hearty thunder
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ok so went in depth

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it's not a raccoon

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it's a raccoon dog

uncut tundra
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what's the difference

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looks like a racoon to me

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same mask same face

hearty thunder
livid bridge
uncut tundra
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great point

nocturne marsh
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it just creates confusion

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raccoon dogs are tanukis

livid bridge
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it’s called convergent evolution; when two separate species gain similar traits through evolution despite not being related at all

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well it doesn’t have to be two but you get my point

uncut tundra
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raccoon dogs are tanukis ?

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man

nocturne marsh
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theyre localized like that cuz theyre dogs

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that look like raccoons

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also theyre on the other fuckin side of the planet

hearty thunder
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yeah but zigzagoon looks more like the one on top

uncut tundra
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tanukis are DOGS ??

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WHAT

hearty thunder
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in the pic

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and the one on bottom is japanese

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top one is from somewhere else

nocturne marsh
hearty thunder
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can't argue with that

nocturne marsh
uncut tundra
nocturne marsh
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how do you accidentally release a tanuki in a random ass location

hearty thunder
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feels weird cause no balls

nocturne marsh
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how do you accidentally release enough to the point theyre widespread in multiple countries

uncut tundra
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"oh snap no my 250 raccoon dogs escaped"

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"accidentally"

nocturne marsh
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also the gray evolutions of zigzagoon arent racoons either

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theyre based on badgers

uncut tundra
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yeah well it's a galarian form

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so yknow

nocturne marsh
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so somehow theres no raccoon pokemon in any of the thousands of pokemon

uncut tundra
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yes there is

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zigzagoon

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(i'm kidding it's a bit)

nocturne marsh
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theres also no pokemon based on my local bird terrorists

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even if they already look like pokemon

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like they fucking scream their own name every time they can

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actual criminals

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and theres no pokemon based on the bird that can somehow build houses

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why can it build houses

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with multiple floors

livid star
pine arrow
pine arrow
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Pokémon's little dex identification things have a habit of referring to Pokémon by some of the weirdest stuff

hearty thunder
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i don't understand

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why do they classify them as animals

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but there's no animals

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why call zigzagoon zigzagoon and not raccoon dog

pine arrow
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It's really strange as it's something I've always been confused by, because in the game sometimes they'll refer to them as the animal they're based on, sometimes they'll say '[Animal name] Pokémon' and sometimes they just call them what they are

hearty thunder
pine arrow
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So in the game sometimes they'll say stuff like 'This ranch has Cattle and Horses', or 'This ranch has Cattle Pokémon and Horse Pokémon' or just 'This ranch has Tauros and Mudsdale'

hearty thunder
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im going to assume pokemon takes place in the future and every animal went extinct

pine arrow
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It's weird because in the early gens it's treated as if Pokémon and animals are two different things but both exist, but around atleast Gen IV onwards, it's treated as if real animals never were a thing and Pokémon are the animals of that universe

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Leads to really weird dex entries like the Gastly one that makes even less sense now

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"A being that exists as a thin gas. It can topple an Indian elephant by enveloping the prey in two seconds."

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First Indian Elephant mon is Steel type and therefor immune to toxic gas so.....?????

Good one Game Freak

hearty thunder
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gastly made them extinct...

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all toppled

pine arrow
#

Either that or

hearty thunder
#

they adapted via evolution

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deep

pine arrow
#

Elephants becoming made out of metal in response to being strangled by ghosts like

hearty thunder
#

someone needs to draw gastly strangling an elephant now

pine arrow
#

Another weird inconsistency, the Eiffel Tower is mentioned at one point, but if you go there in the Pokémon world it's actually called the Prism Tower and it's a gym

hearty thunder
#

clearly they renovated it between games

pine arrow
#

So France just let some kid who's name is almost 'Lemon' buy the whole thing?

hearty thunder
#

if he had the money, whats the issue

pine arrow
#

I dunno I feel like the most iconic place in the entire country they probably wouldn't sell to a like 8 year old

hearty thunder
#

i mean the tower is still in place

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not like they demolished it

pine arrow
#

True

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Lowkey tho it's kinda funny Prism Tower is a Smash stage when the same game straight up has a lake with a giant floating crystal in it that's just never explained, feels like better stage material

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Feels like it would be more unique

hearty thunder
#

too simplistic

pine arrow
#

I dunno, there's a lot they could do with this

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Day and night cycle, as the city's theme is time, the gym is Psychic type and has a lot of elements of space, so they could pull from that

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Pokémon has insane stage potential for Smash and it's a shame it's rarely ever considered

hearty thunder
#

sakurai looking at the entire list of pokemon locations
"what if we made a stage using pokemon stadium models as platforms..."

pine arrow
#

It's even baffling at that time because there was still a bunch of cool locations they could've went with

hearty thunder
#

it be like that

nocturne marsh
hearty thunder
#

true

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he also was running out of time which explains the random asset mess lol

hearty thunder
pine arrow
#

I might do

hearty thunder
pine arrow
#

Side note, isn't it weird how Azure Bay is most likely less than 100 miles away from Wyndon?

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You know what I've never seen the Pokémon community discuss? Where exactly is Glacia from?

orchid trellis
#

pokemon

hearty thunder
#

facts

pine arrow
#

I mean yeah

What I'm more meaning is she states that she comes from a region you don't know about that's colder than Hoenn IIRC

nocturne marsh
#

the new antartica region

whole basin
#

I thought it was assumed she was talking about Sinnoh since that was the next gen, which is known for being cold and all the Pokemon on her team are available in the region.

pine arrow
#

The whole comment about the cold region wasn't added until Gen VI tho, two gens after Sinnoh was introduced

grand iron
#

...to be fair, she does carry a Froslass in that remake. So...

whole basin
#

And she gains an Abomasnow, Beartic, and Vanilluxe in the rematch team. (1 Gen IV and 2 Gen V mons)

Gen V's map says Sinnoh is somewhere to the north of Unova, so let's split the difference and say it's Pokemon's version of Canada if you still think it isn't Sinnoh.

orchid trellis
#

where does it say sinnoh is north of unova

pine arrow
#

If we use real world, Sinnoh is slightly higher (Whichever latitude and longitude is) wise than Unova

Most northern region we've had so far is Galar, even then I don't think Galar is treated as a 'cold' region specifically

whole basin
pine arrow
#

Wow I really need to dig through my Gen VI games because I have a tonne of non English mons in my game that could be useful for Masuda Method

pine arrow
#

You know what's actually kinda neat? How the Genie quartet are physical embodiments of nature, while the Ruin quartet, the 'rival' group, are man made objects that gained life

leaden tusk
#

I FOUND IT!!!!!!!!!!!

pine arrow
#

...Why did you lose it?

leaden tusk
kind fox
#

i'd lose it if i still had that game

nocturne marsh
#

id smash it with a hammer and eat it

kind fox
#

i almost did

pine arrow
#

I forgot how relaxing the night flying theme from ORAS was

wicked bloom
#

was it with the 3ds

pine arrow
#

Yeah it was the 3DS one

grand iron
# leaden tusk I FOUND IT!!!!!!!!!!!

First remakes in the series I actively disliked, though worth noting I didn't play Let's Go. Was already not a big Sinnoh fan but when a bud let me borrow this, I was so disappointed.

pine arrow
#

Also yeah didn't post, but I got this earlier

grand iron
#

Worth noting I wasn't the biggest Hoenn fan either on GBA but ORAS is my favourite entry to replay on my 3DS.

grand iron
pine arrow
#

That's what I'm currently playing, ORAS, doing a bit of what I'm calling 'shiny cleanup'

#

Forgot how much slowdown hordes cause tho

pine arrow
#

It's actually shocking how little remixes of Crimson Mirelands there is

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I'd attempt one but I can't find a good MIDI to use as a basis, only one on the internet has like 60 channels for some reason, there's not even that many instruments, and even then half of the notes are on the wrong instrument?

pine arrow
#

You know what's annoying? Finding a neat reference in an official Pokémon that is an unexpected nod to the anime's remix of a route theme but not being able to find the route theme on Youtube anymore

hearty thunder
#

rewatch the anime til you hear it

pine arrow
#

I think I have the track on my phone, it's just weird not being able to find it on Youtube all of a sudden

hearty thunder
#

reupload it

pine arrow
#

It also kinda annoys me I can't find the anime rendition of the same exact track that used an electric guitar either

#

Another weird aspect to that video I've noticed is how Deoxys isn't included with the event legendary mons, but with the regular legendaries

#

Same with Arceus as well

pine arrow
#

Currently having awful luck with Sandshrew

leaden tusk
#

Slowbro cuddles 💓

orchid trellis
leaden tusk
#

What?

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My Pokémon isn't allowed to give me cuddles?

leaden tusk
#

Imagine being against cuddles. Couldn't be me

orchid trellis
leaden tusk
#

Owning a Pokémon is like owning a dog. They're gonna give you cuddles no matter what.

hearty thunder
#

they are not even touching in the pic...

leaden tusk
#

Lol that's just how the game works

hearty thunder
#

they should fire gamefreak...

leaden tusk
#

Why? Because they aren't touching?

hearty thunder
#

lack of effort...

leaden tusk
#

Also tbf, this was developed by ILCA

#

And it was like that back in HGSS

nocturne marsh
#

so lazy

hearty thunder
#

they should fire gamefreak anyways...

nocturne marsh
#

fix your game gamefreak

nocturne marsh
leaden tusk
#

Oh God, here comes the BDSP hate...

nocturne marsh
#

dont even know what game it is

#

but it is pretty bad

leaden tusk
#

Zarwave, get outta here, you aren't even a Pokémon fan. You're just here to be a hater

nocturne marsh
#

no im here to talk about pokemon

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i design em

orchid trellis
leaden tusk
#

Speci, that's getting old, stop

nocturne marsh
#

haha old

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like the woman in the gif

hearty thunder
orchid trellis
#

its my earnest reaction to pokemon

nocturne marsh
#

I agree.

leaden tusk
orchid trellis
#

what tells you this is negative

grand iron
nocturne marsh
#

they should make a venom pokemon

#

venommmmmmmmm

orchid trellis
#

wym there he is, pokemon

#

he was in the movie

hearty thunder
#

they have many goop based mons but most have funny faces

#

need more teeth

nocturne marsh
#

goop isnt venom

hearty thunder
#

alien goop

grand iron
#

I actually do like the idea of a venom-like pokemon. With similar lore to Parasect where the mushroom basically kills the bug and puppets it's body.

orchid trellis
#

hes not a bug his name is eddie

nocturne marsh
#

red shiny version

#

hiure me gamefrek

grand iron
orchid trellis
hearty thunder
#

evil ditto variant

grand iron
nocturne marsh
#

how does venom have teeth and a tongue if hes goop

hearty thunder
#

hardened goop

leaden tusk
whole basin
#

Water/Ground is a good type combo

pine arrow
#

Things like this don't really feel like special events

uncut tundra
#

hell yeah give me the pokémon of a world champion

#

bring it on

#

give me the pachirisu from that one championship

pine arrow
#

These don't feel special because like, you could realistically get your own versions of these with a bit of effort whereas events used to have unobtainable moves or were for mons you couldn't get by normal means

grand iron
#

Black 2 and White 2 handled the World Champion pokemon better IIRC...by putting us up against those teams in Downloadable tournaments at the PWT.

#

Just getting them handed to us is...meh to me as well. Facing them was a neat idea.

whole basin
#

It would be neat if instead of the one Pokemon, you could play against more of the team like the downloadable tournaments.

Or imagine for raids if you fought a series of Pokemon to get to the limited time boss.

grand iron
#

One of the biggest letdowns with Galar IMO is, with it's clear inspiration on sports, I think it was an ideal region to bring back the World Tournament or downloadable tournament stuff from Unova. But nope...

whole basin
#

Out of sync with the anime

grand iron
#

Hell, the Anime abandoned Galar's plot for the most part to do just that!

livid bridge
#

one of the biggest letdowns with galar was that it was a bad game Pika_Giggle

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actually i am not familiar with the unova stuff

#

inform me

whole basin
grand iron
whole basin
grand iron
#

You could also download special tournament to take part in there too, like VGC teams used that year or giving the Gym Leaders legendary pokemon you can't bring like Giratina or Mewtwo.

livid bridge
#

so the tournaments in wyndon swsh has but good

whole basin
#

Yep

#

And it has level caps if I recall?

grand iron
#

What's neat with the Gym Leaders ones is that you can go by region, including Unova itself which brings back BW1 leaders, or mix them all up for one tournament.

grand iron
#

...I think anything lower also got bumped up to 50, but don't recall well right now.

whole basin
#

RIP level 1 Rat strat

grand iron
#

Aron already killed the rat's plays anyway by being reusable. Snicker

livid bridge
#

exactly

#

rat was never viable

grand iron
#

...eh, I'll give it Gen 4 when Sturdy wasn't a thing at least.

#

And no, it wasn't a thing. Blocking only OHKO moves was worthless.

livid bridge
#

sturdy doesn’t activate with only OHKO, it’s essentially just built-in focus sash

#

it just also makes you immune to OHKO moves

grand iron
#

Gen 4 and before? Nope. Only the OHKO move blocking. So worthless.

uncut tundra
grand iron
pine arrow
#

Is it just me or does Diamond/Pearl have an absurd encounter rate?

uncut tundra
#

they really wanted to fuck with us 2000 kids and make us lose a lot of time

pine arrow
#

I'm trying to get through that one maze like part of Victory Road to get to the area that leads to Shaymin (Solely because I want to shiny hunt Duskull) and it's like every 3-7 steps there's an encounter, and encounters in that room are even slower because Game Freak really needed to show a fog animation every battle

#

Oh and you can mess up a puzzle because it's too foggy and you have to backtrack

#

Side note, looking at the Gen III sprites, I'm starting to think the sprites were probably made before the official art was, due to some of the strange inconsistencies between them

pine arrow
#

I forget how much I hate Gen IV's Pokéradar

leaden tusk
#

Waiting for Pokémon Sleep to come out in the U.S. is HELL

nocturne marsh
#

why do you wnat pokemon sleep

grand iron
#

Got no interest in it so...rather easy wait for me in Scotland. lol

leaden tusk
#

Why is the Sinnoh Pokémon League the hardest Pokémon League in the series?

#

Like, out of all of them, why did the strongest have to be from the Pokémon game I'm most nostalgic over?

pine arrow
#

It's not the strongest LOL

#

Sinnoh league is a mess

leaden tusk
#

Wtf you talking about? What Pokémon League is stronger?

pine arrow
#

Guarantee you're valuing the entire league on Cynthia aren't you?

leaden tusk
#

Sinnoh League is busted af

#

She's a big part of it

pine arrow
#

If you ignore Cynthia, it's incredibly underwhelming

grand iron
#

To be fair, I think Bubba playing the remakes? And the Elite Four in the Sinnoh remakes use competitive items, sets, natures and EVs IIRC.

unique moth
#

Gotta point out that there's quite the level curve between the eighth gym and the sinnoh elite

leaden tusk
pine arrow
#

It's not that drastic, it's not Gen II level curve bad, or even Gen I level curve bad

grand iron
#

Flint in particular is disgusting in those remakes. Has a Drifblim that has Minimize and Baton Pass.

pine arrow
#

I wish Minimize and Double Team were outright cut from the series TBH

leaden tusk
grand iron
#

Accuracy lowering, I can tolerate. Cos Switching out is an option there.

leaden tusk
#

Only trolls use those moves

pine arrow
#

I was stuck in a fight with a Level 18 Pikachu for 17 minutes before.

I was using a Level 87 Lopunny. I couldn't hit because of Paralysis+6 Double Teams

leaden tusk
#

Lmao

grand iron
#

Evasion boosting? Nope. Hell, I go one further and ban myself using Sand Veil or Brightpowder too.

leaden tusk
#

Tbf, I was using "Set" as well instead of "Shift" last night

grand iron
#

Which is more difficult to face in your opinion, Bubba?

#

The Sinnoh Elite Four all in a row without healing?

#

Or me again. lol

leaden tusk
#

They need to bring "Set" back, because it's too tantalizing not to use when it's always on

leaden tusk
grand iron
#

Sure, I got lucky...absolutely...Pika_Giggle

leaden tusk
#

Lol

unique moth
#

are you two gonna beat eachother up to death or what

grand iron
#

We've already battled.

leaden tusk
#

We already did

nocturne marsh
#

source

unique moth
#

round two everyone

#

ding ding

grand iron
#

First round, I brought both entire Slowpoke lines to battle him. They won.

pine arrow
#

Flint: 'I use Fire types!'
Flint's 'Fire types':

grand iron
#

2nd serious round, Geeta's team used correctly.

leaden tusk
#

3rd round Poik got unlucky lol

#

Also, I just found out last night that Eviolite isn't in BDSP

#

Backtransferring Poik to BDSP nerfs him to hell and back, so never ask to fight him in that game lol

pine arrow
#

....You're using a Slowpoke in the Elite Four?

grand iron
#

I mean...I don't own that game on account of disliking that game.

#

So no worries. lol

pine arrow
#

I don't have BDSP either

leaden tusk
#

But I also had my full team with me as well

#

Except for one of them obviously, because I needed room for Poik

#

The only reason I was using him was so he could get the Sinnoh Champion Ribbon

nocturne marsh
pine arrow
#

It's odd how Cynthia's theme doesn't make sense when you first speak to her but makes a lot more sense when the battle actually starts

leaden tusk
leaden tusk
#

Used a VPN to get Pokémon Sleep here early!

nocturne marsh
#

what does pokemon sleep even do

foggy perch
#

track your sleep to unlock different pokemon

leaden tusk
#

Made my phone Slowpoke themed:

hearty thunder
nocturne marsh
#

why does the game need this

#

this isnt even trying its literally just spyware

hearty thunder
#

as someone who has no idea what the app is, the message is plainly confusing

App needs the mic in order to do the following while tracking your sleep:
-Tracking sleep behavior
-Tracking sleep successfully
First of all, why? Second, they listed the same thing three times??

Recordings will only be available to the user
Why would i need these recordings? I can also do this without needing a pokemon app so...??

Either they are spying on people or they really don't know what the hell to slap the brand now

unique moth
#

Can't be spyware since they have the "this is not spyware" disclaimer below there, silly

uncut tundra
#

idk why pokémon sleep would creep you out when others apps already do that without the pokémon branding

unique moth
#

What the fuck would they do with this information anyway

#

Sir we got the sleep noises of the pokemon fanbase

#

Prepare the ultimate weapon

uncut tundra
#

ok that made me laugh

hearty thunder
#

unless this thing helps me catch my paralysis demon, im not getting it
nuh uh

grand iron
#

The audio of our sleep files will be the audio they use for Chatot's Chatter in future games.

#

I say "our"...I've no interest in this Sleep thing, so won't be getting my awful snoring or the dead silence of my insomnia. lol

leaden tusk
#

I woke up this morning to a freaking shiny Bulbasaur!

nocturne marsh
nocturne marsh
#

its not creeping me out
its just really obvious what theyre doing

hearty thunder
#

you better not sleep talk anything important cause they will know Awkward_Gengar

nocturne marsh
#

my phone when pokemon company hears me say i dont like the remakes

grand iron
#

Curious how my phone would react to me feeling the main series games are very lacking now and my dislike for the mobile games, but still liking the spinoffs in general as well as Legends Arceus, which is apparently mainline, a lot.

unique moth
#

Tbh they wouldn't be that stupid to put a "this doesn't sends data to servers" disclaimer and then exactly do that

#

That's just asking for a lawsuit

#

"You honor, we put that disclaimer as a joke"

unique moth
#

No, really, if they do actually lie about this, they're in big trouble

#

One thing is omitting information, another is lying about it

#

We'll see if it lasts in the UE

uncut tundra
#

why would they need audio of you farting in your sleep

hearty thunder
#

degenerate devs

unique moth
#

No fucking idea why does this game exist
It's not that the concept is bad it's just so ??????????

hearty thunder
#

it's a game??

unique moth
#

Now you can finally shinyhunt while asleep

#

Well there's uh things to collect

#

I guess it counts as game

uncut tundra
#

it's just nintendo wants to get more into the lifestyle products

unique moth
#

Who had this idea give them a raise cause it's really funny honestly

uncut tundra
#

they make you exercises with ring fit and pokémon go, they make children brush their teeth with pokémon smile

#

now they help you sleep better with pokémon sleep

unique moth
#

They want to control our lives

#

Evil

uncut tundra
#

i'm calling it now we'll get a nintendo smartphone soon, wouldn't surprise me

hearty thunder
#

explain to me how the pokemon phone makes sleep better

unique moth
#

My children will never brush their teeth, you can't fool me pokemon company

uncut tundra
hearty thunder
uncut tundra
#

helps you get into a good sleep pattern, reminding you to go to bed early

#

it can sing lullabies to you, i'm guessing it comes with gentle alarms

hearty thunder
#

question

uncut tundra
#

it's pokémon themed so there's a plus to that too

hearty thunder
#

is this app free?

uncut tundra
#

idk

#

maybe ?

foggy perch
#

yes

#

like go

hearty thunder
#

does it have microtransactions?

unique moth
#

Dunno

#

You can buy sleep pills to immediately make you fall asleep

uncut tundra
#

awesome

hearty thunder
#

if it does, it's just whatever
if it doesn't, they are 100% stealing data from you
what kind of data? dunno but something is clearly off if that's the case

unique moth
#

Yeah they have transactions

#

A whole shop system it seems

hearty thunder
#

ok good

#

app is fine

#

just silly

unique moth
#

And a premium pass

hearty thunder
#

bit sus but whatever

unique moth
#

So you can sleep 10 hours instead of 5

uncut tundra
#

i'd say if there's nothing wrong with your sleeping habits you probably don't need the app

unique moth
#

This app isn't for helping you sleep btw

uncut tundra
#

but it can be useful if you wanna know if you like, talk during your sleep, or to see how often you wake up or idk

#

well it helps you monitoring your sleeping habits

#

making you understand yourself better

unique moth
#

Guess that can help somewhat

uncut tundra
#

in the end it can improve your sleep

#

yeah definitely

unique moth
#

I'm not super into sleep aid stuff so I'm no expert

#

Shiny hunting while asleep sounds funny tho

#

Hope we can bring the pokemon to the games

#

And bring them to tourneys

#

I wanna see a pro player with a team all of sleep mons

nocturne marsh
hearty thunder
#

uh huh

nocturne marsh
#

thats the catch

unique moth
#

jarvis read the pokemon terms of service and find out if they say anything about selling the data

foggy perch
#

You waive your moral rights

#

This service receives your precise location through GPS coordinates

uncut tundra
#

it's like never the case

#

it only applies to free clubbing for women

nocturne marsh
#

its always the case lmfao

uncut tundra
#

it's never the case

foggy perch
#

if it's free you should look into it first

uncut tundra
#

i fail to see how i am the product when i play team fortress 2

foggy perch
#

look at the front page of tos;dr

uncut tundra
#

i fail to see how i am the product when i play the pikmin 4 demo

nocturne marsh
#

tf2 isnt free it has microtransactions

uncut tundra
#

it's still free

#

you could invest 1000 hours into it

nocturne marsh
#

a demo is a demo lol

uncut tundra
#

following your logic sleep isn't free either you can buy stuff in it

nocturne marsh
#

what

#

tf kinda logic is that

uncut tundra
#

yours

nocturne marsh
#

no its not

uncut tundra
#

sleep isn't free it has microtransactions

#

that's your sentence

foggy perch
#

it's not actual money in your sleep

nocturne marsh
#

when do you pay to sleep

uncut tundra
#

applied to pokémon sleep

#

POKEMON sleep

#

oh my god

#

it's the subject of the whole convo

nocturne marsh
#

be less vague then you imp

#

see what i was replyinh to

uncut tundra
#

you were replying to a comment regarding pokémon sleep

nocturne marsh
#

yes

#

saying that its fine cuz it has microtransactions

hearty thunder
uncut tundra
#

imagining the human function of sleep in that sentence is funny

hearty thunder
#

you can buy stuff in your dreams if you're skilled

grand iron
hearty thunder
#

also demos exist to advertise the actual product

unique moth
#

I'm using discord for free I think

nocturne marsh
#

yeah and discord sells your info what else is new

#

they turn on the "record my voice chats and camera" option on default

grand iron
#

Doesn't Nitro mean that Discord isn't technially free either too? As you CAN give them money...

nocturne marsh
#

yeah but discord is big mean and breaks the rule

grand iron
#

Least by the arguments presented earlier.

orchid trellis
#

discord when they find out 90% of their userbase doesnt go outside

grand iron
#

Discord when they find out the other 10% still use Discord when outside too.

leaden tusk
#

I wonder how rare shinies are in Pokémon Sleep... cuz depending on that statistic, finding a shiny on my first try is either really impressive or not impressive at all

nocturne marsh
#

you already posted that

leaden tusk
#

I know that, Mr. Blocked Guy Whose Messages I Shouldn't Be Looking At. But I didn't post about how I'm unsure what the shiny odds are

kind fox
#

You can reply to your own post. But more importantly, try not to "double-post" if it doesn't fit the channel or topic well. No need for it in #1095582048955154482 lol

leaden tusk
#

YOOOOOOOOOO

leaden tusk
pine arrow
#

Sinnoh's Pokéradar is devoid of any logic

leaden tusk
unique moth
#

My brother in Christ, what

foggy perch
#

wrong channel?

hearty thunder
foggy perch
nocturne marsh
#

pokemon sleep fans appalled to learn the game whose gimmick is to record you, records them

foggy perch
#

mmm mmm yummy yummy yummy user data mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

unique moth
#

fart data

foggy perch
#

all the fart data

#

profitable fart data

leaden tusk
hearty thunder
#

bubba wanted to record on the toilet...

leaden tusk
#

Dope ass team:

orchid trellis
#

uhm,. wheres blacephalon?

#

cant have a good team without blacephalon

leaden tusk
orchid trellis
#

untrue

leaden tusk
grand iron
#

Where is the best Kanto Legendary Pokemon?

wicked bloom
#

hoho?

grand iron
wicked bloom
pine arrow
wicked bloom
#

im a pokemon expert

grand iron
#

I should know. I was that 12 year old at school. Awkward_Gengar

pine arrow
#

True, true

#

Hell I think even by 12 I didn't have teams like that come to think of it

Pretty sure my team was like, Swampert, Flygon, Tentacruel, Magneton, Gardevoir and Dodrio or something

grand iron
#

Gen 3 is when I started making my own teams based on favourites more as at the time, I was eh to Hoenn's legends. Unova is when I had legit solid teams, just not optimally trained cos screw doing that before Kalos.

pine arrow
#

Oh yeah, Kalos was really the start of when I started actually EV training

grand iron
#

And Kalos/Alola is when I went mad and raised everything optimally and said "Fuck it. RNG picks my team out of everything!"

#

One team I did like in Unova I had was a Grass team with one off-type intended as a "Gym Leader" team among my University friends.

#

Was a sandstorm team using Tyranitar as the off type.

pine arrow
#

Not so much a Grass team, but I remember battling my friends once and solo'ing them with Lilligant

grand iron
#

Lilligant be that kind of pokemon even now. Either solos or is dead weight usually.

#

Thankfully, more often the former.

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That kinda goes for the Hisui form too, but not as much overall IMO.

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Ever since I started making playthrough teams that were like 'Six mons, no rotations, no legendaries, no dupes from previous teams', I've discovered a lot of mons I didn't expect to like

grand iron
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Done that with a few Nuzlockes I've done where I banned Pokemon Centers.

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Cos PCs weren't a thing due to that rule, I was usually stuck with my first 6 catches.

pine arrow
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Ah it wasn't a case of 'first six catches' but moreso they were spread out throughout the game, so only around the 7th-8th gym did I have a full team

grand iron
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...I say usually because in one VERY bad Hoenn run, I put a couple of Pokemon in the daycare pernamently to free up space for a surf user encounter. Wakaha

grand iron
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And I got one encounter after each Gym Badge in areas up to the next Gym's town.

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Elite Four team ended up being Roast the Emboar, Misty the Golduck, Lehnsherr the Magneton(On purpose for Eviolite and more speed), Skeledirge the Krookodile, Toxin the Roserade and Kirov the Drifblim.

pine arrow
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I don't think I've ever used an Eviolite mon, would kinda do my head in if I just left it as is

grand iron
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I like doing so as long as it's not a mon who'll try to evolve all the time.

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Magneton is fine as it only tried to become Zone in Chargestone Cave. Plus, it being faster than Zone was handy.

pine arrow
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It would bug me to have one on a playthrough team, it would give me a sense of not being finished and will annoy me to no end

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It's not so bad if it's an earlier gen mon because that was it, it couldn't evolve furthur, but if I'm playing a later gen it would drive me mad

grand iron
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Then again, I like using NFE pokemon even in competitive battles.

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Bubba can attest to that with my Slowpoke Lines team he fought.

pine arrow
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It doesn't bug me in like, a battle simulator like Showdown, but it bugs the living hell out of me if it's a Pokémon I caught and raised if that makes sense

grand iron
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But have also got a team of pokemon that Scarlet's Paradoxes are based on too, which includes Magneton and Misdreavus on it for obvious reasons.

pine arrow
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Lowkey the Paradoxes not having a full evo line actually kinda bugs me to some degree

I have a weird mix of gripes with the Paradoxes

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And Sliggoo sees FAR more use from me than Goodra. Both forms.

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Everlockes can be annoying in games without Everstones, will say that. Awkward_Gengar

pine arrow
grand iron
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Like for most of the paradoxes I'm super torn on them, like, I like the ideas but I'm very mixed on the execution

grand iron
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Have given them all names I feel are better for some variety, minus Iron Treads as it being Steel Type makes it feel OK.

pine arrow
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I guess what I'm saying is is a lot of them feel oddly 'generic' for how special they're supposed to be?

grand iron
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I get what you mean. I'm OK with it overall myself as they are out of their time, but still...

pine arrow
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Slither Wing in particular I feel really oddly about, somehow it's execution is the most bare bones concept they could come up with yet at the same time I somehow actually like the design

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I guess in a sense it is a paradox

grand iron
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Slither Wing feels like a beefed up Larvesta to me. I love it!

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2nd favourite Gen 9 pokemon, behind Nacli.

pine arrow
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Like, easiest way I can put it is, I feel it's the most barebones 'lazy' concept for prehistoric Moth but at the same time I actually love the whole 'Godzilla monster' vibe it has

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Sandy Shocks is another one I feel oddly about, because it doesn't really feel prehistoric, so they slapped caveman hair on it and called it a day and it feels lazy, meanwhile the idea of giving Magneton legs is actually really funny to em

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I feel like Iron Thorns is really the only one I have no mixed feelings on for, well, reasons

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Even though I probably won't ever play a newer gen game until Game Freak sorts stuff out, I just like the idea that something one off in B2/W2 was basically tweaked and redesigned into a legit mon

grand iron
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You know what couod have been a fun counterpart to Iron Thorns IMO if the base form had been in the game?

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An ancient, feral Ledian wielding a spear.

pine arrow
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True, true

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Could've made the UFO into a Paradox Silcoon/Cascoon

grand iron
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Oh, actually...an ancient Gengar or Haunter based on Gen 1's Ghost sprite.

pine arrow
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Lowkey kinda wished they did a concept like Iron Valiant but with a past version of Tyranitar/Baxcalibur

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Or Tyranitar/Tyrantrum

grand iron
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Eh, I feel if you wanted an Iron Valiant touch, it should be across the same evolution line like how Mega Gardevoir and Mega Gallade are.

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...with that said, Bellossom and Vileplume?

pine arrow
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What about Pokémon that are confirmed related, like Gastrodon and Cloyster, or Wailord and Cetitan?

grand iron
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Scizor, Kleavor AND Scyther?

pine arrow
grand iron
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Oh, here's another thought. Escaliver with Accelgor.

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A hypothecial what if Shelmet didn't lose it's armour when becoming a bloody ninja!

pine arrow
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I actually wonder if the two Paradoxes based on Megas have a link to something early in Gen III's development

grand iron
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Given that Valiant also pulls from Gallade, I've never really wondered about that much.

pine arrow
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What I'm more on about is why, for whatever reason, Gardevoir and Salamence's lines are right next to each other in the code, one of the few really glaring things aside from Chimecho after Deoxys

grand iron
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Oh, you know what should happen down the line as a little nod to when mons are coded?

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A past Rhydon.

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grand iron
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Yeah, basically.

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But more a direct nod to it being the first pokemon coded into Gen 1 IIRC.

pine arrow
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Yeah, that's what I was kinda referencing, it being the first mon in the code, and one of the first mons ever designed

grand iron
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Give it Normal/Ground typing to give another slight nod to Gen 1 coding...in how miserable it was and thus how Missingno is a thing. Snicker

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Plus, conceptually, it could become Normal type decently just by not having quite as rocky an appearance.

pine arrow
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A Paradox Kangaskhan that's actually got a glitchy texture to it could be a fun idea

grand iron
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Make that a Future one. Let the mech glitch out.