Legend of Zelda!!

[fiery trail]

so having the ohko protection feels justified

in the worst of situations i'm allowed to mess up at least once, that's good

i hope master mode doesn't bring back the shitty health regen

[strong arrow]

That's something that I liked, it forces the player to keep fighting enemies unless they want their health to regenerate before they can defeat them

[tropic fulcrum]

I just learned that you can still increase your battery capacity after the 8 green ones have been filled. It turns blue after the first 8

[fiery trail]

no but it sucks ! you can't get creative you just have to keep wailing on them

bomb barrels become useless

hell any aoe attack now sucks

[onyx vale]

I'm with Moz on this one

[fiery trail]

in botw when the combat was a tad more physics based with all the magnesis boxes and stuff you couldn't use these fun toys

or stasis something and sending it at full speed to a guy, this does nothing with health regen

now i guess you could use the vehicles and zonai devices and stuff but again health regen would neuter those as well

would reduce combat to flurry rush > shoot an arrow > flurry rush > shoot an arrow > flurry rush etc

[strong arrow]

It's not like they were regenerating health every second you weren't attacking, plus you could still use Zonai devices to deal damage, all you have to do is make a couple of turrets to deal more constant damage

[fiery trail]

(side note i'm sad ultrahand doesn't allow you to apply momentum to objects or move other objects by dragging one object like you could with magnesis)

though i guess it'd be broken maybe

[strong arrow]

Agreed. It's something that I didn't like upon first discovery, and is it just me, or is Ultrahand's movement a lot more stiff than that of Magnesis from Breath of the Wild?

[fiery trail]

it's simple really, if nintendo brings the shitty health regen back i will simply not bother with master mode

[fiery trail]

yeah it is

[strong arrow]

I remember when trying to fling an object with Ultrahand, and it just landed there, whereas with Magnesis, it would've been flung a pretty short distance.

||ᵃⁿᵈ ᵗʰᵉⁿ ᶜᵃᵐᵉ ᵗʰᵉ ᵈⁱˢᵃᵖᵖᵒⁱⁿᵗᵐᵉⁿᵗ...||

Very minor disappointment though as the rest are for this game

[fiery trail]

i can't remember what one of my gripe was

ooh yeah right, can't upgrade the archaic tunic

and the fact finley and sasan are still a couple

those are my only two gripes with the game

[strong arrow]

It's like the well-worn, would be cool if it came with an upgraded set bonus

[fiery trail]

well worn wasn't as bad as you could upgrade amber earrings and wear those

but here you have no way to have upgradable headgear where link doesn't have his hair band

[strong arrow]

I feel like Nintendo made some bad minor changes to Tears of the Kingdom, but they counteracted it by making good changes. Really wish they could've only made the good changes though

[fiery trail]

+well-worn wasn't advertised as much as the archaic tunic was

[strong arrow]

||I personally wouldn't return to the Archaic set as I have better clothes now, but if I was using it I wouldn't mind too much that it isn't upgradable.||

||I'm not trying to brag when I say this, but even now with as much time as I've spent in the game, I haven't even tried to upgrade my stuff as my combat skills have carried over from Breath of the Wild.||

[fiery trail]

yeah don't worry i feel the same

but personally there is a gap between the 11 armor i'm usually rocking and the 2 armor that the archaic set is

it's enough to make red bokoblins a bigger threat which is quite nuts lol

[strong arrow]

Although by your point in the game I'd expect red bokoblins to be a nonexistent threat for the most part.

Even with you restarting the game, your skills wouldn't reset with it

[fiery trail]

when you're taking on a monster camp sometimes they swarm you

one false movement could lead to getting hit by a red boko with usually isn't much but when you have 2 armor points ehh

ok maybe not red bokos cause you'd tank their hits with all the hearts you got but blue bokos would become more dangerous for sure

spoiler for the memories
have you guys found ||Sonia's grave|| in the game

[regal needle]

where

[fiery trail]

rewatch Memory 13 ||A King's Duty||

[mental igloo]

I didn't really get the vibe of them being a couple this time around though.
I think that might just a remaining impression from BotW's localisation mistakes.

To me it felt like they were just friends going on adventures together

though i've only met them together once

[fiery trail]

really ? they literally are all lovey-dovey and talk about holding hands and stuff

yeah you gotta finish the shrine quest with them

it's called "True Treasure"

[onyx vale]

Dunno if this is the case in the English version as well, but I remember a Zora referring to them as "those kids"

Which is when I realized Sasan could very well be 16 or 17 or something

Still weird though

[fiery trail]

||lol I initially did the same but when I realised what I did, on both instances I dropped back the flowers I took and dropped an additional flower||

nooo 13 why did you delete

[fiery trail]

probably Finley's mom who calls Link Linny

maybe he's a young guy hmm

[onyx vale]

Yeah

[mental igloo]

Going down to ||Gloom's lair|| and seeing ||Zelda's torch|| lying on the cave floor. 😔

[fiery trail]

wait yeah

wait hold on he looks young

[onyx vale]

Lol

We have gaslit ourselves

[mental igloo]

he's got the potato cheeks

[fiery trail]

wait how fuck is the relationship actually good

[onyx vale]

Into thinking this guy was a grown man

[fiery trail]

oh no

sasan i'm sorry

[mental igloo]

Sasan seems to be the bottom of the relationship anyway

[fiery trail]

oh yeah absolutely lol

[mental igloo]

Finley seems to be the one that decides what they're gonna do

[onyx vale]

[fiery trail]

or not like the bottom but the uh

[mental igloo]

he just reluctantly goes along with it

[mental igloo]

the sidekick

[fiery trail]

OH MY GOD yes it broke my heart it was such a little detail but I'm so glad the devs added that

it took me a second to click but when it did I was like maaaaaaaaaan

oh btw can we talk lore

did you know that totk causes ANOTHER timeline split lol

let me explain

[onyx vale]

As long as you spoiler mark

[fiery trail]

will do dw

[mental igloo]

Would have been neat if it was unique in a way.

[fiery trail]

as soon as ||Zelda went back in time, it set into motion a lot of the events in the game||
||a dragon you've never seen before, the light dragon is now everywhere on the map, the sky islands which were never there before now appear... all this stuff is definitely stuff we've never seen before but were supposed to "always be there" if you follow the story||

except... the quest in kakariko about the ||sky stone tablets will teach you that Zelda wasn't mentioned in the many zonai texts the zonai survey team had unearthed before the Upheaval||

and that the ||sky stone tablets were in fact the first time one particular researcher had heard of the name "zelda" in those ancient records||

my theory is that ||zelda went back in time and turned into the light dragon which is why it's in totk and not in botw
the sky islands are here because as revealed in the sky stone tablets zelda instructed rauru and the others to send stuff in the sky to protect Link in the future and give him a safe place to recover his strenght and get used to his new powers etc||
it's never explained how the ||sky islands appeared within hyrule, just that they appeared
i think that they appeared just because Zelda was sent back to the past||

we're talking time paradoxes so of course it's gonna be hard to explain but basically ||there must have been an imprisoning war where Zelda isn't there and where many of the stuff she says never happened
like the sage awakening in the future or stuff like that, all the new dungeons discovered that weren't in botw, those are here because Zelda made the sages swear to lend their powers to Link||

this is all very messy i hope you guys can follow along with my stupid theory

[mental igloo]

This series's obsession with time travel and the inevitable paradoxes that come out of it just makes most timeline theories an exercise in futility.

But i guess it makes sense

They wanted to include time travel in the first zelda on the NES after all

[fiery trail]

yeah they did

[mental igloo]

Link is only named "Link" because he's supposed to be the link between the past and the present

[fiery trail]

speaking of, the devs spoke about the fact totk was all about "hands" and making connections and not being as alone as in botw

and one of the devs in the interview said "after all the protagonist is named Link"

and Aonuma was like mindblown

[mental igloo]

So many games have time shit going on
OoT has the Child and Adult shit.
WW has Hyrule frozen in time.
TP has the Temple of Time in the past and present.
SS has Timeshift stones and the fact that you kill demise in both the present and the past.

[mental igloo]

Wait

what's TotK's japanese name?

[regal needle]

unrelated but why did zelda ||became a dragon before we sent the master sword in the past, the only thing that make her a dragon was because the master sword was broken||

[fiery trail]

uhh

[fiery trail]

no ||she became a dragon after receiving the master sword||

"Zeruda no Densetsu: Tiāzu obu za Kingudamu"

man Japan really loves its Densetsu

[mental igloo]

i see

it's just that the interview implied the title had "hand" in the name

[regal needle]

you literally see her ||when you first step outside with your sword in your inventory||

[fiery trail]

wait lol ||at some point there's two master swords||

[mental igloo]

||Yes, she should still have the repaired mastersword in her skull at that point||

yes

[fiery trail]

that's

I hate that so much lol

[mental igloo]

I know!

[fiery trail]

I love time travel stories but i also hate them lol

[regal needle]

there would be a ||blue/gold light on her head then||

[fiery trail]

hold on gotta check youtube

did anyone ever make it to ||the light dragon|| when stuck on the great sky island

[mental igloo]

it wouldn't surprise me if ||it flew outside of the boundary that warps you back to the sky island||

[fiery trail]

i kinda want to start the game again to try that

[mental igloo]

But holy shit it does genuinely feel like the devs are trying to do some form of over-correction.
In a lot of the games in this series most people have questioned why it's called the Legend of Zelda and not the Legend of Link since Zelda barely plays a role in most games.

Then they proceed to make the SS and especially BotW incarnation of Princess Zelda just... suffer.

Every time you encounter Zelda throughout SS it feels like she's just recently lost a massive chunk of her innocence. Imagine growing up as a normal person only to be plucked away from your family and friends and gaslit into taking on the memories of some previous god only to then seal yourself away inside a rock for thousands of years because now you have to help stall out a fight that your forbearers couldn't finish.

[fiery trail]

okay yeah i asked the totk discord and the stone glider despawn before reaching ||the light dragon||

and also it's out of bounds

[mental igloo]

wait, like actually outside of the full game map?

[somber parcel]

Outside the starting area limits

[fiery trail]

i haven't played SS so can't relate but man has botw Zelda SUFFERED lol she suffered so much for such long periods of time it's insane

yeah outside the great sky island boundaries

[mental igloo]

Right

[fiery trail]

not outside the full game map lol

but yeah hopefully for Zelda totk is the last game in the botw universe

||how old is Zelda in totk||

[regal needle]

||100+ years old probably||

[fiery trail]

||is she like... 20 117 years old or something||

[somber parcel]

||Oh yeah, BOTW + Dragon time skip...||

[fiery trail]

i'm still stumped on one lore question

what exactly is Calamity Ganon

I know Impa does answer that question I think in the postgame but i've yet to talk to her

[regal needle]

||a spirit and weaker version of ganondorf himself||

[fiery trail]

yeah but how does it manifest

why did it try to remake a new body when there already was one

why does it use malice instead of gloom

in fact what even is malice and why don't we see malice in totk or gloom in botw

how is intelligent enough to hack sheikah tech like sombra from overwatch

[somber parcel]

I think they're the same thing, but Gloom is definitely more dangerous.

[fiery trail]

how many calamities have occured

why were the royals forbidden from going beneath hyrule castle

[somber parcel]

||Dorf||

[onyx vale]

Sorry dumb joke lol

[fiery trail]

yeah but like if the literal origin of the thing that's been tormenting your whole country for millenias is right beneath your house i think you'd try to uh fix that problem maybe

[fiery trail]

great joke

[regal needle]

his body is sealed

[fiery trail]

yeah but ||eventually he won't be sealed, he knows it, Rauru knows it, he even warned him about Link||

idk this whole thing is messy and i hope some funky theorist like NBC or Zeltik make something that satisfies me enough that I consider it canon

[somber parcel]

Who knows how much information was lost.
||And anyways, it would be better not to accidentally undo the seal limiting the threat if you don't have a plan to fight it.||

[fiery trail]

i guess that makes sense...

[mental igloo]

But yes.

Be born in a time where people have figured out that Ganon is coming back over and over and is trying to build a meta in preparation of his return.
People find the old weapons that were used to beat him before and have trained 5 people capable of using these weapons.
All you have to do is master the one thing remaining.
You can't. Everyone else is fulfilling their role perfectly but you somehow cannot. Because you clearly suck.
This attempt to try and metafy a godly power through feigned devotion + negative self esteem is definitely not the source of your failures, no siree.
You try to compensate for your shortcomings by at least doing what you already can and at least help in the excavation of most of the mass-produced weapons.
(To everyone else's dismay who'd rather want you fill the one role that they're missing.)
Ganon comes back and fucks everyone up with the weapons you've helped dig up and repair.
In your own self-loathing you've realised you treated everyone like shit and now there's nothing you can do to take it back.
The guy you've treated the worst is still standing by you and is giving his life away for you despite you feeling like he'd be better off saving more important people than you, like himself or a common farmhand.
You jump in front of a guardian in a hopeless attempt to not have him die instantly and being a failure at everything, you're pretty much guaranteed to die from this jump.
This moment of genuine selflessness was the true ingredient to unlocking your power all along.
You've unlocked the power but Your boy is still dying and your people is still getting systematically executed by robots.
You send your boy to the hospital and you go to try nuke Ganon yourself but only manage to get swallowed.
Now you're in the belly of the beast and can only manage to keep him at bay.
Surrounded at the heart of a spiritually toxic substance made out of all of humanities vices for 100 years straight.

And this is jut BotW.

It's honestly kind of a bit of a cop-out how clean she is at the end of BotW

she should realistically need some form of therapy for the shit she went through in that game alone.

[fiery trail]

i can't help but think that with the knowledge we gained thanks to totk that maybe she actually ||used time powers to make these 100 years happen in an instant for her||

maybe not consciously

[somber parcel]

At least it's clear she doesn't stay in the castle, the place where so much trauma takes place.

[mental igloo]

It's just weird to me how she doesn't even have any scars from it.

[regal needle]

ironic that totk is more around the story but more inconsistent than botw

like with ||the time travel shit||

[fiery trail]

totk has a lot of weird stuff regarding its story yeah

[somber parcel]

And don't forget Robbie, Purah, and the Zora

[fiery trail]

botw had a simple one but it didn't have plot holes i think

[mental igloo]

I guess you could take this as a case of: while Sheika Tech is impressive for it's healing abilities it still pales in comparison to the Goddesses healing abilities, the fact that it can keep itself going even in such a nasty environment.

however that just begs the question of

[fiery trail]

i don't think zelda was inside the ganon sack or whatever

i think she was just... like idk she... idk man

magic

[mental igloo]

if Zelda can keep herself eternally young through her holy gifts, then why does the royal family even bother to reproduce?

[fiery trail]

stop torbi you're overanalyzing

[somber parcel]

"Ganon sack"

[fiery trail]

it is a sack that contains one unit of ganon afterall

[mental igloo]

Demise also mentions how Hylia had to specifically reduce herself down to a mortal form since only Mortals can harness the power of the triforce

but here we see a Zelda clearly using some form of power that could make her immortal if she wanted

Then in TotK she|| can only attain immortality by essentially comitting identity-suicide.||

[mental igloo]

We see her golden light glow and fade from inside the ganon sack though.

[fiery trail]

yeah but she's not inside it since she doesn't uh

plop out of it ?

she only appears after the final final battle

[regal needle]

notice that there are more islands in the trailers than in game?

i know its the beta but they should have kept that

[mental igloo]

she plops out at the bottom of the vertical eyelid on his back.

you could say you're forcing Ganon to shed a single tear and that tear is her.

[somber parcel]

She is The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

[zinc monolith]

wow 💀

[sullen widget]

Don't diss ravioli like that

he was my favorite champion in botw

[haughty moat]

I’m not gonna sugarcoat it

Wood + pine cone + fire fruit

[zinc monolith]

how highs it go??

[haughty moat]

Idk never did it I’m just watching my brother play though the game

[astral orbit]

Yes....but it's also not RG

Our new Rito ability is good and all...buuuuut

[regal needle]

got the greatest armor set : ||tingle ||

[fiery trail]

Do not point the camera at the fire temple from a distance and move the right stick, worst mistake of my life

[sullen widget]

Ok i wont

[strong arrow]

What happened when you did it

[fiery trail]

The game CHUGS

I heard the fire temple is composed of 2 million vertices apparently

[zinc monolith]

I'm finally spoiler free

Except one thing

I won't say because of spoiler snipers

[astral orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/cheetink-cheating-zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom-master-kohga-gif-1233139226179650333

[zinc monolith]

Imo the reward you get for || completing all shrines || is || weird, gives me the Herbie jeebies ||

[strong arrow]

I personally love it, although the amount of work you have to put into the game for it is quite a lot

[astral orbit]

I got the Master Sword last night.
That was epic

[zinc monolith]

Epic 😢

[astral orbit]

and tragic

[fiery trail]

go talk to ||Impa while wearing it||

[astral orbit]

but epic

[zinc monolith]

🧠 smart

As soon as I get off work

[fiery trail]

btw i love the fact we never get an armor that shows enemy HP

it felt a bit jarring in botw so i'm glad it's not in this game

[zinc monolith]

Oh ya?

[fiery trail]

i think no armor in the game does that to my knowledge

[zinc monolith]

Kinda feel like it should always be there or never be there lol

[strong arrow]

What's your favorite temple?

[fiery trail]

tough question

[astral orbit]

Toss up between Wind and Lightning for me.

Maybe Wind

[fiery trail]

i didn't like the atmosphere of lightning temple but i loved the ||use of mirrors in it, felt very zelda-y
and also the moment before you find the "main room", like there's a whole little linear section at the beginning of the temple ? loved that||

in terms of atmosphere i think fire temple is my favorite, in terms of gameplay lightning temple

[astral orbit]

I liked the atmosphere, but absolutely with you on the rest of it.

[fiery trail]

in terms of music wind temple

water temple uhh idk the buildup to it was very cool but aside from that i think it's the weakest

at least ||its boss was weak to water which was a cool and unique weakness you never see again in the game||

[astral orbit]

Water temple boss ||was both hilarious and annoying||

[fiery trail]

i love the music when you ||water the shark||

[onyx vale]

I found it to be ||a little underwhelming in presence and very easy||

||Low gravity breaks this game's difficulty||

||For a boss that you have to chase around and keep track of, you shouldn't be able to enter bullet time at any moment||

[onyx vale]

||I'm all up for goofy bosses, but I say underwhelming because previously I had done the Rito phenomenon ||

[fiery trail]

you can already enter bullet time at any moment anywhere if you shield surf with a fused zonai wing

[onyx vale]

Fair but that is something you'd have to discover on your own

[strong arrow]

Personally I like the water temple the most, ||and it had a creative boss, the drawback of said boss being how annoying it was to fight. Low gravity was also an amazing gimmick.||

Wind temple at number 2 ||because for the first one I did, it was a pretty cool to the idea of bringing back traditional dungeons, and it easily had one of the most enjoyable bosses in the entire game. The buildup to it was amazing, taking you to what is literally the highest point in the game before dropping in.||

Sand temple is up next at number 3. ||This one isn't too bad, I just wasn't the biggest fan of having to climb about 7-8 floors. It was loaded with my favorite enemy, that being the Gibdo so I had my fun with that. Boss was pretty good, but it had an attack that was very hard to avoid, so I didn't like that.||

Fire temple at number 4 ||because although it's the best looker, I hated the maze aspect of it, and I usually had a hard time getting around it. The aesthetic is amazing, but gameplay was awful in my opinion. Boss was another one of the annoying ones, probably the worst of the temples in my opinion.||

[onyx vale]

Instead of gaining ||mega jump||

[fiery trail]

true

damn you didn't like ||marbled gohma|| ?

[onyx vale]

Oh whoops

[fiery trail]

i thought it was a great boss and a classic one at that

[onyx vale]

Wasn't supposed to open that

[fiery trail]

oh shit sorry Senna

[astral orbit]

rip

[onyx vale]

Lol dw not a huge deal

[fiery trail]

i lied it's not that it's fireblight ganon but again somehow

i get why 13 didn't like it, so lazy

fireblight sucked already

[strong arrow]

This next one is a complete spoiler, so don't look until you've beaten all four temples: ||Spirit temple was more of a chore than anything else, and I barely find myself using Mineru. Aesthetically it was pretty much just "The depths but with Zonai puzzles". I liked certain depots, like the one with the waterslide at the bottom. As for the bossfight, it was tough to find a strategy against it, but once I got a grip of it, it was a really cool fight||

[zinc monolith]

|| spirit! ||

I'd like more like it

[mental igloo]

I had already destroyed most of the rocks en route to ||the spirit temple|| before while i was exploring wondering why they were there.
Needless to say, ||it made the walk-up to the temple in her construct really easy, mostly just ran there with the fan on her back ignoring all the enemies.||

[fiery trail]

oh my gosh i forgot this one
in terms of gameplay this one was the best for sure
atmosphere as well it was very cool

i've said it before, I stumbled upon this one by accident and doing it on my own terms without any quest to guide me was a trippy experience

[mental igloo]

Wonder what the vibe would have been like if i|| hadn't activated all the lightroots and had to do it in complete darkness.||

[fiery trail]

it is quite hard to navigate ngl

[mental igloo]

Guess that's what brightblooms are for

[zinc monolith]

All right guys, let's get into it
What's the worst part of the game

Loading times
Breaking rocks in caves

[mental igloo]

I'm honestly impressed by the loadtimes being as fast as they are

Just compared to the sheer size of it all

[fiery trail]

worst part of the game...

idk, navigating the ||gerudo desert before beating the lightning temple||?

it's frankly quite miserable

[strong arrow]

One major complaint (although not my buggest) is how hard it is to locate Dinraal. I have an easier time locating the ||light dragon|| than I do with this thing. Even after 70 hours of playing, I still have not seen Dinraal make a single appearance, and what makes it worse is that I'm trying to do a quest that involves the three dragons

[fiery trail]

oh i found it near ||the fire temple|| today

[strong arrow]

Thank you, all I need is one claw and I'm done with the quest 👍

[mental igloo]

I had already explored most of ||the depths|| by the time|| i entered Gerudo|| and thus i had already ||made myself a flying machine||, so it wasn't too bad.

This is Dinraal's route.

[fiery trail]

is this a joke lol

it feels like a joke

[strong arrow]

I looked up a YouTube video for it, camped out by both chasms she goes through, and I haven't found any results, so I'll have to take a more active approach

[fiery trail]

this path is like...

[strong arrow]

This is actually the route Dinraal takes throughout Hyrule

[fiery trail]

like no one is ever going there

no one goes behind death mountain

no one goes to the north of akkala

[zinc monolith]

I saw him in the depths a few times

[mental igloo]

Just do what i do, go against his route.

You cover the most distance the fastest by ||diving into the Chasms|| so check the surface around, in and past the ||Drenan Highlands Chasm|| first then ||dive down the South Akkala plains Chasm|| and follow Dinraal's route in reverse.

[strong arrow]

Thanks, I was thinking of following the route, but going against it is a much better idea

[fiery trail]

you were going to follow the route ?

i'll say that's not optimal

[mental igloo]

i think he realised that now yes

Before that realisation it's easy to go monkey see monkey do and just do the same as the dragon does

It's interesting how ||the light dragon is the only one that doesn't dare to go into the depths.||

[regal needle]

got a good spot to camp and farm?

[fiery trail]

i think it's because ||it's the only dragon that goes high in the sky ?||

[mental igloo]

@regal needle

After you've found her you could just sit on her and wait 10 minute before she let's you take a piece off of her again

though if you're looking to get a piece of all of them it might be more practical to just flip flop between each dragon

[regal needle]

you can skip the 10 minute delay by camping

and i doubt you can camp on her head

[mental igloo]

i don't think you can

their route is real-time this time

it's not like in BotW where they're always at the same spot at the same time of day

[regal needle]

damn

[mental igloo]

||Light Dragon|| takes somewhere within 2 hours to complete it's route.

the other three are luckily a bit shorter

[fiery trail]

I love what they did with Eldin and Death Mountain in totk

removing all the lava was a great idea but putting it in caves only was a genius move

lava made traversal boring and redundant imo but now you can properly explore death mountain and it's super neat

[regal needle]

ugly on map

[sullen widget]

-Guy who doesn't have the two best armor sets in the game

[regal needle]

3*

• teleporters

[fiery trail]

seeing as i don't wear armor other than the canon look and fast travel to the minimum

yea

[sullen widget]

oh yeah my b

[sullen widget]

-Guy who doesn't have an armor piece necessary for a quest

[strong arrow]

||Also the Gerudo region, with how they finally recognize Link as a hero instead of just "voe"||

[mental igloo]

I'm glad ||Gerudo|| just has more shit in it. Even if it does make it obvious of where the explorable areas end.

[strong arrow]

The reward was ok. Nice reference. Still not worth all the time I spent looking for Dinraal

[regal needle]

(koroks spoiler)

[onyx vale]

Haven't had any problems with loading times personally. Feels quicker than in BotW

I kinda like the cave excavation personally. You never know what's around each rock wall, it makes the caves really open up

[strong arrow]

Loading times are actually great this time in my opinion, only lasting a couple of seconds this time around.

[mental igloo]

Man coming up with a satisfying ||dream home|| layout is tricky.
Wish there were more ||transitional rooms like the square and triangle|| ones. Or if you could ||remove certain walls so that a dedicated room could lead to another dedicated room. Like imagine if you could make a hallway of weapon stand rooms etc.||

[onyx vale]

.

[mental igloo]

New efficient dupe. Though it kinda requires some story progress.
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_gGXPs_Ibw ||

[zinc monolith]

What is he talking about

[mental igloo]

read from bottom to top

4 pieces means it only costs 12 zoanite

[zinc monolith]

Fascinating

[fiery trail]

Oh man thats big brained

So the Tarrey Town music made me cry

I may have problems

[fiery trail]

btw french version gives us a hint as to how much time has passed between botw and totk

the answer is ||7 years||

the reasoning is ||Mattison has to go to Gerudo Town when reaching the "âge de raison" in french which is an age where a child start to like... become conscious of the world and themselves and all that||

||and commonly this age is around 7 years old||

that would also mean ||Riju is 19 years old in totk which... ehhhh||

[onyx vale]

And ||Sasan would have to be at least 20||

Whoopsies

I don't think it's ||7 years||

But it's all very inconsistent

[fiery trail]

to me I think at least ||5 years|| have passed

any number below that feels wrong

[onyx vale]

I'm not going to bother trying to wrap my head around it

[fiery trail]

so i've uh made a discovery yesterday

spoiler for Akkala and ||the depths||
there's an ||abandoned tarrey mine|| in ||the depths||

and i'm like... how does that work
||Tarrey is 5 years old at least
how the fuck is there a mine below it bearing the same name||

[glossy locust]

My motorbike is my first Zonai build to truly fail on me...

Hoverbike, Tank, Laser Hoverbike, Podracer, Ice/Fire Drone...all work. But a usual bike, I just can't seem to manage somehow.

[fiery trail]

i've made one the other day

not really a bike but

try building this (seen from above)

the green rectangles are fast small wheels

[glossy locust]

Oh, a trike.

[fiery trail]

the blue thing is steering wheel

can put stuff on the other two wheels like weapons and stuff

like lasers idk

[glossy locust]

My podracer works well enough now tbh that I think I might just focus on more wacky stuff now overall.

Got a fast land method of transport...which also crosses water and if it goes off a slope, can even fly somewhat.

[fiery trail]

thats dope

https://tenor.com/view/chalmers-simpsons-may-i-see-it-talking-gif-11870196

[glossy locust]

Do wanna tweak it to use Spears instead of wood as it's connections.

[glossy locust]

When I'm back home later today and actually get the spears to make it how I want, sure.

[fiery trail]

can we talk about the SPOILERS FOR THE GREAT PLATEAU ||yiga beam cycle||

cause it's a ||motorcycle that shoots a laser beam but also has... wooden beam on its side
that's very funny imo
it's a.. wooden beam motorcycle||

[somber parcel]

||It's named for where it was discovered, since it's original name has been lost over thousands of years||

[strong arrow]

What is your favorite shrine from Breath of the Wild?

[haughty moat]

Idk maybe that one where you had to carry a blue flame

[fiery trail]

Not my favorite but I love the one called Cannon

It's just called Cannon

You have to fire a cannon in it

Great game design

[regal needle]

new dupe glitch discovered ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bQDu9XYc7c||

[tropic fulcrum]

moon knight drip

https://tenor.com/view/moon-knight-moon-knight-fortnite-moon-knight-griddy-get-griddy-griddy-gif-25465534

[regal needle]

bro ||golden apples|| are so useless

[strong arrow]

Finally warmed up to the glide set. Only had to dye it black and start skydiving more, actually a good set looking at it now

[drowsy cliff]

I really haven't been saying a lot here because I want to get through at least the majority of the game (or at least beat the main story) before I really dive into spoiler but I do want to say that I think it's really cool how ||they made Lurein Village this game's version of Tarrey town, rebuilding from scratch. Plus the beginning where you have to reclaim the town from the pirates is a neat touch.||

[regal needle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF2cP0rkOfU

[zinc monolith]

kleric is based

[tropic fulcrum]

Haven't been diving as much lately so now I always end up going back to the green hylian hood + beige yiga armor + white glide tights for the AoT look

I'd occasionally switch to black pants, black yiga armor, and green cape to make it like the season 4 uniforms

[somber parcel]

||It's easier though, since you only have to gather a lot of wood once and then stick logs in holes||

[drowsy cliff]

||Which I'm fine with because it was a pain to constantly go out and get wood for Tarrey Town, that was just padding out what's otherwise the best side quest in BotW||

[somber parcel]

||I think it was nice to have a bit of time in-between the construction of buildings, although repeatedly being told to get 30 bundles of wood was annoying. Maybe I'd be happier with Lurelin if it had the other aspect of Tarrey Town, which was the finding people to fulfil certain jobs. They already had people around talking about how they left Lurelin, so why not include inviting them back? Then you'd have a loop that isn't entirely just sticking logs in holes.||

[drowsy cliff]

||That's understandable, and yeah I agree that it would be cool to find the old villagers and tell them it's safe to return. Still, I would prefer it to not be the longest side adventure if it means we don't have to deal with padding.||

[zinc monolith]

What do you get for activating all light roots in depths

[onyx vale]

A kiss on the forehead

[zinc monolith]

Purah won't do it

Glitch?

[onyx vale]

No you gotta get it from Hudson

[zinc monolith]

I don't think so he kissed my feet

[onyx vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624472082356502530/1071032864155643924/trim.CF59059A-317B-48FC-AECB-20BA395B39A7.mov

[strong arrow]

The reward for activating all lightroots in the depths ||essentially equates to 'Hestu's gift' in terms of usability, but if you're into collecting stuff like that, go right on ahead, as I plan on doing the same thing||

[zinc monolith]

I have one more unless I'm blind

[onyx vale]

.

[regal needle]

you cant

[onyx vale]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[zinc monolith]

You can

[zinc monolith]

||Once you reach the max limit of statues, you can put them on the platform again and talk to them and they replace it||

[onyx vale]

What is ||said limit||?

[astral orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbKt0jcX-I&ab_channel=CriticalRole

[somber parcel]

||Where's the funny dance?||

[zinc monolith]

Not too high
Keep adding, you'll get the soon

I can't recall tbh lol

[strong arrow]

Finally got the Mystic set, it was worth it, that set is a beautiful work of art 🤌

[zinc monolith]

Till something attacks you 😜

[somber parcel]

Looks nice, but it sucks. I think it can't be upgraded.

[strong arrow]

You can always dodge the attacks, and its level of functionality really depends on the player's skill level

[strong arrow]

What is the scariest part of Tears of the Kingdom to you?

[onyx vale]

Finding ||the hands|| for the first time was very frightening

[astral orbit]

I've managed to complete two of the cool sets ||OG Link|| and ||Wind Waker Link||.
I just need the head for ||OoT and Twilight|| sets
and I have nothing for ||Skyward Swod||

[glossy locust]

||Well, am glad that spoiler was safe for me. lol

I've got the full Twilight, Ocarina, OG and Wild(Now dyed blue) set. Missing one for Wind and 2 for Sky.||

[astral orbit]

I'm about halfway filled out on the Depths map.
I wish there were more of the major structures but the ones that do stand out like ||the one beneath Akkala Citadel|| and ||The Giant Poe statue in Hebra|| are really cool

[fiery trail]

the ||korok forest|| for sure

if you guys are struggling in the game I suggest visiting ||the depths|| under the many ||memorials in honor of people fallen during the great calamity||

I say many but i've found 3 so far

[astral orbit]

||haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands||

[regal needle]

do you know where is the miner top?

[astral orbit]

||To get the Miners Shirt, first either access the Lookout Landing Skyview Tower or wanted to the Hyrule Field Chasm at coordinates (-265, -0314, 0027). You’ll want to jump right in and start heading West until you encounter the Iaysus Lightroot at coordinates (-0784, -0433, -0469)||

[fiery trail]

the MINOR top ?

when will people learn that giving coordinates is useless in this game
the only way to view coordinates is to physically move link

you can't view coordinates on the map which is super dumb

[astral orbit]

They work just fine

[regal needle]

I SAID MINER I SAID MINER

[fiery trail]

okay if they work just fine show me how i can move my cursor on the map and it'll actually change the coordinates

like let's say i wanna be able to put a marker on... idk 1302, 1740 to explore it later

how can i do that

answer is i can't so implementing coordinates in the first place was a dumb idea

[astral orbit]

How should I know or care how you want to do it.
Walk around, there's the hud, make an inference

[fiery trail]

so i have to use math ?

that's stupid

[astral orbit]

Ballparking is math now?

[fiery trail]

idk what ballparking means

[astral orbit]

General estimation

[fiery trail]

idk how much a meter is on the map

there's no scale on the map

there's nothing

there's no 0,0 point

i could infer that something is 100 meter away but wouldn't know how to gauge how much 100 meter is

[astral orbit]

I'd like to think you're smarter than needing a full x, y coordinate map to be able to figure out how numbers go up and down relative to your position

[fiery trail]

if the game asks me to find something 90 meters south and 23 meters west i wouldn't be able to find it on the map without walking Link

[astral orbit]

Then walk Link

[fiery trail]

sure

whatever

i'm watching a video where someone is saying the great sky island is more restrictive than the great plateau because you can't visit shrines unless you first go to the temple of time

...hello you also couldn't do that in botw you have to activate the tower first

why are you praising the great plateau when they're the exact same in that regard

[regal needle]

lets talk about actual flaw

[fiery trail]

what's your point

[astral orbit]

It's too pretty

[regal needle]

the freaking islands that has been removed

[astral orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-care-futurama-no-feelings-gif-5488075

[fiery trail]

oh have those been removed

let's seee

hm you're correct, that's odd

maybe they'll be added back with dlc ? lol

oh lol they were sneaky during the aonuma gameplay demonstration

no tornado over hebra

[onyx vale]

???

Added back with DLC?

[fiery trail]

yeah my hope rn is DLC will add sky islands

doesn't seem too far fetched, if anything it sounds likely

sky is mostly empty rn they could definitely add sky islands here or there

like they could easily add 4 great-sky-island sized areas in those four spots

(i blurred the spoilery stuff)

[astral orbit]

Secret DLC Sky Island for your consideration

[regal needle]

ok a ||zonai spaceship-like|| would be fucking cool

[somber parcel]

Ravioli's Revenge

[fiery trail]

vah medoh but again

[regal needle]

vah medoh but better

[fiery trail]

hey ! vah medoh was fun

[strong arrow]

?

I thought we had a minus button

[regal needle]

i hate this

[fiery trail]

you know they wanted to add a radial menu but didn't have 8 powers

boss what do we add for the 8th power

idk the map

[astral orbit]

I forget its there 95% of the time

[fiery trail]

also they do have 8 powers.. the sage's ability could have been mapped there idk

[strong arrow]

Or just split the wheel into sevenths

[strong arrow]

Also what happens when you have ||more than one sage?||

[fiery trail]

13 i am not a game designer it isn't my job to tell you how it would work

[astral orbit]

Problem is that joysticks are 8D devices.
They by default process directions in 2s, 4s, and 8s.
It gets tricky when you're turning 360 degrees into 7ths

[astral orbit]

If it were me, I'd probably do something kind of like what ||Autobuild|| does and have a submenu

[strong arrow]

They could do a sort of free-roaming thing with the control stick, instead of just the 8-angle snap

[astral orbit]

Free roaming still only really processes those inputs in 8D on a fundamental basis.

But even then, the function relies largely on how the player is processing the input as well.

[strong arrow]

Ah, guess we could bounce some more ideas for alternative uses for that spot on the ability wheel ||which will sadly never happen||

[strong arrow]

Looks amazing but the ability is horrible, (spoilers for said ability) ||losing rupees after every hit is worse than losing health||

[fiery trail]

Holy crap the northeast lomei sky labyrinth shrine was the best in the game

WHAT

Okay no northeast lomei sky labyrinth is the best area in the game

I squealed so hard rn

[astral orbit]

Aw man...now I gotta do it

[strong arrow]

In my opinion, the Lomei labyrinths are more of a chore than anything, and the reward isn't really worth it.

[POTENTIAL SPOILERS ABOUT THE LOMEI LABYRINTHS BEYOND THIS POINT]

||The sky labyrinths are unnecessarily high, and often require multiple hot air balloons to reach.
Not much to say about the ground labyrinths as they get the job done. Pretty easy to get lost in them, but I do like the little breadcrumbs to help out this time around, especially given that they have more difficult layouts to navigate now.
As for the labyrinths in the depths, they're not really labyrinths, which is a good thing, but with a good bow and a couple of Gibdo bones you can probably take down the Flux Constructs before their health bars even show up.||

[fiery trail]

okay I don't care what people think but after having done my first lomei labyrinth i'll say that SPOILERS FOR THE LOMEI LABYRINTH
||they're basically dungeons now||
||they are cool mysterious buildings they contain chests you have to activate terminals and there's a boss at the end.. they're dungeons||

[fiery trail]

"by reducing the challenge you can reduce the challenge"

"by using a good bow and gibdo bone you can take down enemies fast" idk what you're trying to say by saying this

are you saying it's a good thing or not

cause to me that's absolutely a bad thing
i didn't even use bows for this fight and it was fun although short

[strong arrow]

Wouldn't say so, ||as the main aspects that separate dungeons from anything like them in Tears of the Kingdom are the fact that aside from layout changes and environmental conditions, the labyrinths are all the same, whereas with dungeons, not only do they have distinct theming, but they also have a specific companion that you have to travel with||

[strong arrow]

Bad wording, let me correct myself here: ||Dungeons have distinct bosses that require certain conditions, as well as a travel buddy (at least most of the time) to defeat, whereas with the Lomei labyrinths, those just have the same Flux Construct in different locations||

[fiery trail]

right right but what did you mean when you said ||As for the labyrinths in the depths, they're not really labyrinths, which is a good thing, but with a good bow and a couple of Gibdo bones you can probably take down the Flux Constructs before their health bars even show up.||

[strong arrow]

That was me saying something irrelevant to the conversation without realizing

Although I still do stand by the point about the ||labyrinths in the depths. I would've hated doing a third one in the dark, throwing brightbloom seeds every three steps unless I've activated a nearby lightroot||

[fiery trail]

man i'm so bothered by how much damage you're doing past a certain point

the game will give you a 30-something one-handed sword and no i'm sorry it's too powerful

anything that three-shots blue bokos feels wrong

i think i'll only have fun in this game if i play master mode lol

[strong arrow]

||One-hitting a blue Bokoblin is probably a crime against humanity then||

What about health regeneration?

[fiery trail]

I.. don't know

honestly.. like right now i'm technically mid game right ?

i have done two dungeons, i have done around 50 shrines

and if i wanted i could probably two shot bokoblins very easily

i could kill black bokos with one flurry rush which.. no dude no

so maybe if they were one tier higher and had health regen....

it needs to be HARDER

i'm bout to stop using fuse lol

[strong arrow]

||I can actually kill them in three hits, so not sure about your thoughts on that one, although silver enemies are the ones that usually take one flurry rush with my progress through the game||

[fiery trail]

one flurry rush for a silver ? nah dude

i mean i'm not surprised

where's the difficulty in that lol this is insane

wouldn't be having fun if i did that

[strong arrow]

Yeah, although instead of refusing to fuse items together, I wish there was just a cutoff point with how strong weapons can get. Maybe bring back the gold tier from Breath of the Wild's master mode, but make their horns the same as those of the silver enemies. Wouldn't make the most sense, but at least we'd have some level of normal enemy that isn't a complete joke after a certain point.

[fiery trail]

then again i guess this game needs to be widely accessible and that fusing high tier weapons with high tier horns is the "easy mode" of the game maybe

but also i don't want to not use silver horns they look so cool 😦

[strong arrow]

This wouldn't be a very 'Nintendo' thing to do, but it would be pretty cool if you could set a fixed amount of maximum damage that you could deal, excluding damage buffs and critical hits of course.

[fiery trail]

hmm idk

cause at the same time you don't want to spend ages trying to beat a boss

i think the fact you can have different weapons is a good thing cause then you can have a low-damagin weapon and then a high-damaging weapon for like lynels or whatever

[strong arrow]

I'm not saying you should take ages to defeat a boss, because the setting of course would only affect maximum base damage of a weapon. A five-shot bow with all headshots can still work as a strong bow

[strong arrow]

I love how this game sprouted from the developers having too many ideas for Breath of the Wild DLC

[sullen widget]

I just got the ||Miner's Mask|| and it looks sick af

Haven't got the other pieces of the set yet

[strong arrow]

The latter half of this video includes an amazing combat technique, and makes me really wanna get into more advanced combat in Tears of the Kingdom:

https://youtu.be/BF2cP0rkOfU

[strong arrow]

Worse than horrible, the ability is a horrendous nightmare to deal with 😭

[mental igloo]

how much money do you lose per hit?

[strong arrow]

At my point in the game, if I get hit by a silver enemy, then that's a 360 rupee loss

It wouldn't matter to me if I had more money, but I've only got about 7,000-9,000 rupees

[regal needle]

ok i found an easy way to farm apple, go to the mount where you find the blue horse and then go next to the shrine

you will find a small forest with so many apple

then make a big line of apples (with some golden) with ultrahand and then use autobuild to get all the apples without cutting a tree

(ok there is ||living trees|| but easy to kill)

[strong arrow]

Please only click the spoiler if you've fully completed at least one Lomei labyrinth, or the Zora regional phenomena.

||I wish they made more usage of low gravity. It's such an amazing mechanic that they decided to implement, and I think that it fits the gameplay of Tears of the Kingdom perfectly.||

[fiery trail]

it does feel like dlc mechanic
i'm sure whatever the dlc turn out to be there will be parts of it using that mechanic in wild ways

[strong arrow]

I hope so

[fiery trail]

question

do the gerudos in the flashbacks have round ears

cause ganondorf does

[mental igloo]

nope

they have sharp

[fiery trail]

so then it's confirmed

this ganondorf comes from even before all that

he very well might be the same ganondorf from oot

[mental igloo]

round ears = demonic

[fiery trail]

in the zelda universe yes

the pointy ears of hylians mean they're connected to the goddess

[mental igloo]

i highly doubt this is the same Ganon

[fiery trail]

the zonai have EXTRA LARGE EARS because they're essentially gods

but he has the same round ears as oot ganondorf

[mental igloo]

The first scene in the game Ganon acts as if that is the first time he's ever seen Link and the Master Sword

[strong arrow]

It probably just comes down to familiar elements of his character design at that point

[fiery trail]

has he ever learned Link's name

might sound silly

but like

has he ever bothered to learn Link's name

[fiery trail]

nope because twilight princess ganondorf has pointy ears (why ??)

[mental igloo]

He's also way too arrogant in TotK for a person who has lost several times.

[fiery trail]

i guess that is true

[mental igloo]

I swear the the more Ganon talks in this game the less scary he becomes

Part of what made the prospect of him coming back being scary is that he would have a lot of experience and this time wouldn't underestimate Link or the Master Sword.

[fiery trail]

I don't agree

about the more he talks bit, to be clear

[mental igloo]

But no, he's still making the same mistakes

[fiery trail]

i've learned stuff about the other zelda games over the past few weeks (not well versed in zelda lore)

and what i've learned is that essentially in each zelda games before botw, you played through most of hyrule's conflicts

like, TP and wind waker are the first crisis period hyrule has known since oot when you play those games

like... how do i explain it

there hasn't been a whole conflict inbetween those games

[mental igloo]

There was though

[fiery trail]

but for botw and totk there has seemingly been a ton of conflicts between botw and whatever game came before, one of them being depicted as the great calamity from 10,000

[strong arrow]

What I find interesting is that Rauru was the more wise, and way less cocky character, and he still lost to the guy who underestimated the more powerful forces that opposed him

[fiery trail]

there was ?

[mental igloo]

Between the Wind Waker and OoT, Ganon came back and started wreaking havoc on Hyrule but since Princess Zelda had sent Link back in time there was no hero in that timeline to stand against him so after the Hylians prayed to the gods for someone to save them, the Gods went full scorched earth policy and flooded all of Hyrule just so Ganon couldn't have it.

Meanwhile betweeon OoT and TP, when OoT Link got sent back to his childhood he warned the Royal Family of Ganon's plot to take over the kingdom which then sparked a war between the Hylians and the Gerudo, leading to one of the Gerudo's most sacred temples being repurposed into a Hylian prison and execution grounds. (We also don't get to see any live Gerudo in TP, which has some morbid implications.)

[fiery trail]

okayyy not really what I meant but you're right

I meant there's wasnt a playable conflict
I should've said, you're playing as the direct successor to Link

or like, the direct successor to the hero, the next hero in line

but in botw there was a hero 10,000 years before your time

and there were heroes before that too presumably

for we don't know how long

[mental igloo]

Yeah

Oh yeah, the implied heros that we don't get to play as

Yeah, we've always got to play as the one guy who kinda solves everyone's problems way after the tragedies had already happened and most things had already been lost.

[fiery trail]

man what the heck how is this game real

i'm so-

dude they made a game

and then they made another game

and they're both amazing

and they're both in my top 10 games

and fuck dude

[strong arrow]

They have completely different atmospheres. When comparing it to my last playthrough of Breath of the Wild, the feeling has completely changed.

Breath of the Wild is a much more serene, calm, and much less urgent game, whereas Tears of the Kingdom feels more full, action-packed, and urgent.

[fiery trail]

oh absolutely

it might be weird to say but i don't think tears of the kingdom has surpassed botw for me

at least, not yet

[strong arrow]

I love how easy it is to get sidetracked when looking for something like a regional phenomena

[fiery trail]

it is the better game for sure but i'm not sure it's the better experience for me yet

botw hit me so hard at a moment in my life where it was perfect

i'm still scratching the surface of totk so idk maybe.. maybe totk will surpass it but for now i wanna say no

but also how will i ever be able to go back to botw lol

[strong arrow]

It's the better game as far as quality goes, but I don't think anything will be able to match the feeling that comes from playing your first game of Breath of the Wild

[fiery trail]

that's exactly it yes

also i know it's dumb but i preferred the context of botw

playing as someone barely anyone knows, traveling through a mostly desert land

[strong arrow]

I wouldn't say it's dumb, as I agree.

[fiery trail]

now you're like "man everyone knows Link, people are expecting stuff from him now" and there's people everywhere and stuff everywhere

kinda overwhelming at times

[strong arrow]

Especially when considering how commercial of a game Tears of the Kingdom was, and how heavily advertised it was with all kinds of trailers and analysis videos, but with Breath of the Wild, people just played the game themselves first, and the videos came after.

[fiery trail]

yeah also that

[strong arrow]

Right now we've got people doing full reviews of the game after only three days of receiving it

[fiery trail]

because it's not very new, people already knew what to expect

heck i finished the game in roughly two weeks, i didn't finish botw this fast

i probably finished it in the same amount of time (95 hours) but i didn't finish it like, this fast

[strong arrow]

It kind of gives me the feeling of when you listen to a cool underground artist, but you don't want them to blow up because they'll end up changing their style to something you don't like.

The amount of commercial success that Tears of the Kingdom has had feels like the logical conclusion.

As much as I support the game's success, it did ruin the experience once people started posting all of those YouTube videos with the spoilers in the thumbnails, and so you couldn't even get a chance to avoid the spoiler if you were on the app.

[fiery trail]

hhh it's still nintendo we're talking about

sure it was wii u nintendo back then and now it's switch nintendo

but it still is nintendo

also i feel like ever since... idk ever since marvel infinity war the spoiler culture has greatly evolved in society

like i feel like ever since this film people have been hellbent on either spoiling as many people as possible or hell bent on like not getting spoiled as much as possible

[strong arrow]

I fell on the latter half of the spectrum, but I hate it when people intentionally try to spoil things

[mental igloo]

Eh, i wouldn't say it changed much

Harry Potter definetly had some hefty spoiler culture to it

I think it honestly just kinda depends on how big something has become

Xenoblade 1 was extremely niche when it was just a Wii thing, and the playerbase had mad respect to not spoil people with them, down to creating non-spoiler code-names for certain bosses

Like ||Disciple Noskcid and Aihtorol||

I think even their wiki page used the codename

and early YT videos

[strong arrow]

The fact that Nintendo patched out so many of the glitches also impacted my experience on a major level.

The glitches added a certain level of mischievousness, and also more intrigue as to how much the players could break the game, but now that's gone too.

Lastly the obvious one which comes from this game being a direct sequel to Breath of the Wild. You just can't get that same experience of walking up to the Great Plateau and looking out into the distance of Hyrule, because it's covered by a heavy layer of clouds until you finish up on the Great Sky Island. (Also there's no more special scripted cutscene with a beautifully iconic piano bit.)

[fiery trail]

i fear that people may be intentionally withholding some glitches they discover now

[mental igloo]

Diving off the first island down to the Great Sky Island acts as this game's Great Plateau cave exit cutscene)

[fiery trail]

stuff they'll wait to reveal when nintendo stops being this trigger-happy with the patches

hope those glitches aren't game breaking

Also there's no more special scripted cutscene with a beautifully iconic piano bit.
that's straight up untrue lol have we played the same game

[mental igloo]

looks over at Dark Souls 3

[fiery trail]

what happened with ds3

[mental igloo]

There's one glitch that was versatile enough to give you infinite heals without needing to rest at a checkpoint as well as being able to instantly do a shit-ton of damage to something (while staying at a distance)

DS3 has PvP

and the people who found that glitch didn't say anything until the devs had moved on

so you can imagine how that made the game's meta

[fiery trail]

that's busted

[mental igloo]

While it hasn't changed technically it has become better now that Elden Ring is out and most of the sweatlords who would abuse those glitches have moved over there.

At the very least even if people manage to find some game breaking bug at least TotK is just a single player game

[strong arrow]

I probably forgot then, which is very telling considering how memorable the opening was in Breath of the Wild

[fiery trail]

you forgot about this ? ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PltrSuUIGFY||

[zinc monolith]

It feels like a more grand version
It kind of blew it out of the water, in a sense
Because you're falling from the sky instead of just walking out on a cliff, know what I mean

[strong arrow]

Wait how could I have forgotten that one.

Probably just nostalgia, but I love the original cutscene with the Great Plateau

[fiery trail]

i get that

the first few times the great plateau cutscene kept making me cry every time i watched it

nowadays it doesn't
but this one doesn't make my cry this one gets me PUMPED

i'm like HERE WE GO A NEW BOTW BRING IT ON

[strong arrow]

We might disagree on a wide variety of different things here, but this is something I can definitely agree with (aside from the crying during the Great Plateau cutscene)

[fiery trail]

i'm just a baby i cry all the time

or moreso.. no i rarely cry anymore but i get a tear in my eye and they hurt yknow

[strong arrow]

I like the more muted colors of the new shrines, as well as the whole aesthetic of them.

The muted colors really give it that more "ancient" feeling, and the green being the big main color that you're supposed to focus on is very striking.

I also live how it's more of a Tardis, rather than the elevator that takes you underground.

Only thing I dislike about them is the Rauru statue. It takes away a minor level of personality, and I much prefer the monks in terms of the whole personality thing, despite liking the Rauru statue more from of a visual standpoint.

[haughty moat]

Is it ever explained why all the sheikah stuff is gone

Like all the shrines and towers from the last game disappeared

Where are they?

[sullen widget]

No idea where they are but i'm pretty sure they were ||dismantled because ganon was easily able to take them over and they didn't want another calamity to happen||

[zinc monolith]

I wish ||they mentioned this somewhere in one line lol, maybe at the school ||

[onyx vale]

Yeah

[fiery trail]

the amount of people who don't know you have to help Addison and hold his sign with ultrahand builds is staggering

some people thought it was a joke and were genuinely offended he showed up as much as he did

i'm sorry but how dumb can you be lol

[onyx vale]

Just did the ||fire|| temple

Good stuff

Second favorite dungeon currently

Out of the three I've done so idk if that's saying much lol

[mental igloo]

it took some specific sign shapes for me to know what i was supposed to do

[fiery trail]

that's understandable

[mental igloo]

i thought i was just supposed to be quick and grab the sign itself with ultrahand initially

[fiery trail]

honestly it's a little puzzle that i love doing personally

[mental igloo]

then i found him in another place and the sign suddenly had a suspicious square hole in it with a bunch of building materials next to him and i immediately understood what his gimmick was

[strong arrow]

Same, some people like to cheese it and use hover stones, but I find that as a lazy copout to a fun little series of puzzles across Hyrule

[somber parcel]

They missed the context clues, like the shapes of the signs, and the fact he's usually next to a Hudson Construction material station.

[zinc monolith]

What is the worst sword fusion
Master sword with a bomb is a good contender

[zinc monolith]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I'm trying to find all the bubble frogs
I have 99
And I can't even find the last cave with a guide that shows all the caves
I talked to monster Man in his balloon, He says he can't sense any
I've talked to him and all his locations
I've been searching forever What do I do

I need one more

Scratch that, two left

[narrow helm]

I need to go looking for more lol

[zinc monolith]

And then I find out there's one right there
Like how can he not sense it

[zinc monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lego-movie-emmet-hey-i-did-it-i-did-it-ive-done-it-gif-25205396

[regal needle]

i dont like what they did to the zonai species, ||in botw you could find ruins that looked mysterious, but with totk release, zonai are supposed to be fucking furries with sheikah technology but green||

also isnt ||rauru the light sage in oot?||

[mental igloo]

||He is yes.|| ||He was supposed to have his own dungeon too but they couldn't include it due to time constraints,|| ||though it seems like they finally got to kind of make the dungeon they wanted for him in TP.||

[mental igloo]

Welp, now that i've finally seen the credits and|| get disappointed by Ganon's character and motivations|| i can finally look at lore videos and read their comments and oh boy what a real NOA moment.

[fiery trail]

oh wow is that it ? that's.. interesting

i thought he was just, yknow, evil, like no real motivations, just like.. he's evil

now that i'm playing the game again but in french i'll try to pay more attention to all this

[fiery trail]

can you link me the video where you found this comment

[mental igloo]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnt3nLWZnqw ||

[fiery trail]

thanks, appreciated

what the hell, in a week it will have been a month since the release of totk

[regal needle]

evil because of power

[fiery trail]

i think it needs to be said but botw and totk's english localisation are trash

[astral orbit]

So you're fighting the demon king.
Who are you wearing to the battle?

[zinc monolith]

twilight princess set you?

[astral orbit]

OoT

[zinc monolith]

nice

i wore that like alll of botw so im mixing it up

hero of time goes hard

[astral orbit]

Noice

I considered the Skyward Sword fit but eh

Doesn't feel heroey enough for how I'm gonna absolutely roll Ganondorf

[zinc monolith]

skyward sword link in his loungeworthy sweatpants

https://tenor.com/view/snow-pants-pants-puffy-pants-puffy-snow-gif-13416642

[sullen widget]

same

[fiery trail]

do not open big postgame spoile

[sullen widget]

No fucking way

[strong arrow]

I opened Smash and they forced the 1.2 update on me 😭

Does anybody know how to revert a game update?

[fiery trail]

yeah uninstall game data in the files

though that will uninstall the day one patch which improved performance by a lot

[strong arrow]

Man, guess I've gotta balance it out between my favourite glitches or good performance

[somber parcel]

President Hudson Shield

[strong arrow]

But I'm just glad I finished a majority, if not all of the crystal shrine puzzles by using the Autobuild cancel slide before it was patched out of the game

[fiery trail]

i hate that you cant make mushroom pizza in this game

if you do it becomes cheesy tomato soup i think

i will pop off so hard whenever I find my first non-decayed Royal weapon

wait what there's only one lizal boomerang ? what happened to forked tri lizal boomerang or whatever

this game sucks they removed so many weapons dude

all the second stages of regional weapons (rito bows, zora spears..) are gone too

[strong arrow]

Sucks too when you get around to trying to remake one of the champions' weapons from Breath of the Wild. Where am I supposed to get a Zora spear if they're literally nowhere to be found?

[astral orbit]

Very few places.

[strong arrow]

Same goes for a Swallow bow for the Great Eagle bow

[astral orbit]

Swallow Bow is at the Flight Range

For Zora Spear though, assuming you don't have a Mipha amiibo, you can try Tabahl Woods Cave or - assuming you haven't finished the Zora Domain phenomena - there's a Zora that's trapped in some sludge who will hook you up as a reward

[strong arrow]

Thank you very much. I'm trying to do all of the post-regional phenomena side quests, and this is one of them for each region, so this helps out a lot.

[mental igloo]

You have to factory reset your Switch.

You can uninstall the game and revert it back to 1.0 however the switch will remember that the game had been updated before and will not let you play it (even if you try to launch it offline) before you've updated it to at least the state it was before the deletion.

So if you wanna play on 1.0 (which is what i still do) you're gonna have to make your switch forget everything.

[zinc monolith]

how much do u wanna dupe?

ofc i did dupe some, but it def made some rewards less rewarding when they give u rupees and diamonds

[mental igloo]

Dupes should still exist in 1.1.2 though.
You've got the wall method for weapons which you can do anywhere
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmL382WPBKA ||
and you've got the 5-shot arrow method for items.
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6un_tOKdfs ||

[zinc monolith]

people fighting so hard to not collect items in a game about collecting items

[mental igloo]

Game: "Here's a Quest that requires collecting rare items, number 20. Oop! Guess you can't do that right now, nvm come back later."

The only things you can't dupe are live animals since they can't be fused and even on the shield surf dupe they'd instantly run away.

[strong arrow]

Not that badly. I really just wanted version 1.1 for the Autobuild cancel slide

[onyx vale]

Man, the dynamic music in this game is so good

Overall the transitions are quite seamless

[fiery trail]

I think this game is the first one to have made me squeal with glee while playing alone

first time I did was when I watched a gameplay preview and discovered you could literally build anything, add a couple fans and a steering wheel to it and all of a sudden you have a working flying machine

like what the absolute fuck

[fiery trail]

guys i think this game is amazing

[astral orbit]

Oh right.
So.
Yiga Spoiler
||That Earthwake Technique. Really cool. But stupid useless.||

[fiery trail]

||i think i'll make a point not to learn it on my second playthrough||

[astral orbit]

||I still would. Just because muh brain feels incomplete without it for some reason.||

[fiery trail]

||it can fuck with you though, if you weapon breaks mid flurry rush for instance i'll activate and can leave you vulnerable||

[astral orbit]

||Only if you're charging as far as I can tell. Which if a weapon breaks, having a small attack that can possibly make the enemy flinch could by me that extra second for my brain to keep up to what I'm doing.||

[fiery trail]

||well in order to begin charging you still have to.. press the button||

[astral orbit]

||Yes but it doesn't process a button press. It processes a hold. This goes more into how button presses are registered by the system itself but that's also neither here nor there. It's not a particularly major inconvenience especially since there's a pretty large indicator when your weapon breaks.||

[fiery trail]

i'm not gonna argue with you, it kept happening to me when my weapon broke during a flurry rush where you have to spam the button

it is going to happen specifically during a flurry rush

[fiery trail]

oh man the special ||Guardian|| amiibo paraglider glows in the dark

[zinc monolith]

It's a good one

[astral orbit]

Ah wait. Ok, ok, ok.
My mistake. I misunderstood how you were approaching it.
Usually when I'm in a flurry rush and the weapon breaks, I just end the rush so I don't have that same problem.
But it's also not like I'm advocating that you have to have it either.
Your game; your play.

[mental igloo]

Interesting, the codename for the BGM that plays in ||the Depths directly Beneath Hyrule Castle|| is called ||"Ganondorf Castle".||

||Considering how everything in the depths is an inversion of the surface and "Ganondorf Castle" is the inversion of "Hyrule Castle" i guess it would make sense for the descent down to Ganon to be a kind of reference to climbing Ganon's Tower in OoT.||

[zinc monolith]

^ || that moment descending in his lair was one of the best zelda moments in any game ||

[fiery trail]

man the intended path to zora's domain was so cool

also it's silly but i think it's the second time the cinematic of Sidon seeing Link again almost moved me to tears

the english and french voice actors both sell how much this friendship means for Sidon

also Yona is voiced in french !! her little voice inflexions when you talk to her contain french words among other generic grunts

i'm surprised cause i don't think she had english voice lines in the english dub right ?

[zinc monolith]

I was playing yesterday and she def says Yes Yes one time , but I mentally took note of it becausae i didnt think she spoke lol

[fiery trail]

in french she exclaims "tiens!" when talking to Link and idk how to translate it

but basically it's an expression of surprise when you see someone you like, you're like... "tiens! Link! Long time no see!"

and i like that she says that lol it's cool

[mental igloo]

Some intel on pristine weapons
https://www.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/comments/13uqo9h/everything_you_need_to_know_about_nondecayed/

[fiery trail]

oh dip the royal weapons are found in small areas

i thought weapons would just upgrade from traveler to soldier to knight to royal

i think that's a tiny bit dumb but alright

[strong arrow]

Anybody else notice that we use Sheikah technology to teleport to Zonai shrines in this game? 🤔

[fiery trail]

yes you use the purah pad

[sullen widget]

🥱

[fiery trail]

it's never explained but you can infer that BIG SPOILER ||Mineru engineered the Shrines of Light so the purah pad was compatible with them? she knew how to build constructs, so it's not farfetched to think she could tinker with the pad... actually, isn't there a cutscene where she borrows it from Zelda to see if she could re-activate the fast travel on it? I think there is||

[zinc monolith]

How do you make a water sword
Not a water wand

I want to see a goron birthing

[fiery trail]

stick an opal to a sword ?

[onyx vale]

Opals have water powers?

Gahh dang

[fiery trail]

yes !

[onyx vale]

Sick

[fiery trail]

water behaves like fire does when you use an opal

ie you shoot balls that bounce all around the place

[sullen widget]

It acts like a wand

[zinc monolith]

[fiery trail]

yeah but if your goal is to have a water sword

ie a sword that applies water on enemies (dunno why you'd want that)

[sullen widget]

but it acts like a wand

[fiery trail]

then aside from like... a forest dweller sword with splash fruit attached to it, idk how else to do it

yes well do you see any other option ?

it's as close as possible to a water sword

[sullen widget]

Yeah there are none

[onyx vale]

If there were a water-lizalfos it would be possible

But there isn't

[fiery trail]

yea

so opal sword it is

[sullen widget]

but that's a wand

[fiery trail]

or splash fruit forest dweller sword but those are hard to come by

oh my god melon i'm gonna lose it

[onyx vale]

shut mouth

[sullen widget]

im sorry for being correct

[onyx vale]

What's special about the forest dweller?

[fiery trail]

do not answer melon

let senna discover it

[sullen widget]

ok

[onyx vale]

Pff aight

[fiery trail]

you'll love it

[strong arrow]

Can you say it with a spoiler mark over it?

[fiery trail]

yeah sure

[strong arrow]

Thank you

[zinc monolith]

That's really hard to discover on your own

[fiery trail]

The Forest Dweller weapons can ||re-use one use materials when they are fused to it, they essentially act as elemental weapons but with the thing you added to it. For instance a muddle-bud forest dweller weapon will allow you to confuse opponents at will until the weapon breaks. though gotta note that whenever you pull out the weapon you gotta wait several seconds before the consumable items "charges" so it's balanced that way||

||i'm not sure how many items are compatible with it, i used muddle bud as it's the only one i know of, but i'm sure stuff like puffshroom or dazzle fruit or any elemental fruit or chu jelly would work as well||

[strong arrow]

Oh, I had already known about it, but I did forget. Thank you for the reminder

[sullen widget]

about to say what it does with a spoiler mark
gets told not to
immediately says what it is with a spoiler mark

[fiery trail]

i legit forgot spoiler marking was a thing

also didn't know you'd have done that i'm not in your head haha

[zinc monolith]

lol

[strong arrow]

Monster wings are a lot more useful than I thought they were

[zinc monolith]

Take your DLC bets
|| Rideable divine beasts ||
What do you think DLC will be about

[astral orbit]

Minor lore spoiler
||The original Hyrule castle||

||Zonai will return from the heavens||...maybe

[zinc monolith]

|| wdym original? Like clean and pristine? ||

i want more zonai parts

something that collects items for you like a hopper sucks in loot

hrm maybe a button for when you press Y when using a steering stick, it activates it, like fire, cannons, fans, etc

[astral orbit]

More minor lore spoiler
||So I forgot where the info came from but the Hyrule Castle we see in the game was built to bury the imprisoned Ganondorf. Which would suggest that our Hyrule Castle isn't the original Hyrule Castle where Sonia and Rauru ruled from.||

[zinc monolith]

oo i see

[astral orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/luigis-mansion-luigi-scared-terrified-frightened-gif-18337475

[zinc monolith]

|| what if it's a traditional dungeon ||

[mental igloo]

||When your nation's greatest landmark's main purpose is to act like a glorified lid||

[astral orbit]

based

[zinc monolith]

i want a new game about the hero of time

[mental igloo]

A sequel to Majora's Mask about the Gerudo-Hylian War would be lit.

[zinc monolith]

🔥 yaa

with an older link

he starts turning into a stalfos dude imagine

[mental igloo]

post-game stalfos link like RDR Undead Nightmare

[zinc monolith]

now we're talkin

[astral orbit]

Moderate-Major? Temple spoiler
So...||Spirit Temple...that boss fight is crazy||

Plot spoiler because I pissed myself off now
||If Zelda had the Master Sword for this entire time, how was it in the Lost Woods in BotW? I hate Time Travel stories, man||

[somber parcel]

||Anyone else find it odd when people act like two instances of the same object existing simultaneously aren't the obvious answer in these time travel plots? Certainly beats a paradox like the Song of Storms in OoT.||

[somber parcel]

||Let me explain. In BoTW, the Master Sword is in the Lost Woods, put there by whoever last carried it. After sustaining damage when facing Ganondorf, the sword is damaged and later sent to the past. The sword and Zelda as objects experience time in a linear manner, while the world around them experiences it in it's own linear manner. The world's order of events are out of sync with Zelda and the Master Sword's, unlike people who don't time travel like Link. Although we never see the Light Dragon or the older Master Sword in BoTW, they both hypothetically exist, meaning the entire time there were two Zeldas and two Master Swords.||
||The Song of Storms, however, never has a proper beginning, as Link teaches the man who taught him the song via time travel.||

[sullen widget]

or just say botw doesn't take place ||in the same exact "timeline", it's before the time travel stuff happened||

[astral orbit]

||Sounds like Schrodinger's Master Sword||

Alright, alright.
Thinking on it more.
That's starting to make more sense.

[astral orbit]

Nah. I'm thinking it's still the same timeline.
It's logistically starting to make more sense, as trippy as it is

||Hey, baby Zelda. One day you're going to grow up and be a big dragon, just like me. It's horrible||

[somber parcel]

Existential dread aside, it's definitely one of the easiest to follow with ToTK's narrative ||leaving Link in the present and sending Zelda to the past.||

[astral orbit]

Don't disagree there.

[zinc monolith]

Do fang weapons count as bones

[sullen widget]

I'm pretty sure they do

[somber parcel]

Stalbokoblins drop fangs, so why should they not?

[astral orbit]

I'd ask a Sheikah dentist

[regal needle]

the story is a fucking ||loop like the green circle logo||

wait

||the circle is supposed to represent ouroboros right?||

[regal needle]

great i just beat my first silver lynel

[mental igloo]

Kinda, it's a bit different.
There's a little bit of extra symbolism in it.

[haughty moat]

||ah, ouroboros? At this time of day, at the time of year, in this part of Hyrule, localized entirely within your logo?||

[fiery trail]

||isn't it implied to be just the great plateau||

[somber parcel]

||According to the people who cross-referenced the trailers against BoTW's geography, Zelda and Ganondorf appeared on the Great Plateau. So yes, assuming the geography never changed over thousands of years.||

[fiery trail]

||why are you cross refering trailers or whatever
all of the memories you find ingame happen on the great plateau or close to it||

||when ganondorf attacks the kingdom of hyrule he attacks the great plateau||

||when zelda ends up in past hyrule she wakes up on the great plateau||

[somber parcel]

The matter first came up during the trailers before release, so the people who figured it out then get the credit.
||It's good that it stayed the same location during release, but its scary how quickly people can pinpoint locations in game trailers.||

[tropic fulcrum]

||https://fxtwitter.com/uran120/status/1666727920361181185?s=20||

[fiery trail]

oh my god lol

[zinc monolith]

i made vah nobooris in totok

[astral orbit]

Legend of Zelda: TikTok

[strong arrow]

I love Lynels, and I think they're perfect in every way in Tears of the Kingdom. (Some of this stuff does apply to Breath of the Wild.)

• They're one of the most unique enemies in the game, and I love how they scale in difficulty like the Hinox(es?)

• They drop extremely good horns, with two variations being the saber and mace horns, with one turning any weapon into one of the most powerful blades in the game, and the other turning it into a hammer-type weapon capable of breaking rocks, which could be very useful in combat against something like a Talus.

• They drop the best bows and shields in the entire game

• Their hooves sell for ridiculously high prices, and they come from every level of Lynel, so if you're out trying to get some quick rupees, you can always go and hunt for some Lynels.

[zinc monolith]

Guys, I thought that the rock octerocks were supposed to heal. You're a broken weapons
But he won't heal my silver Lionel pounder

[zinc monolith]

Strong fusion, maybe that's why

[fiery trail]

gotta kill them after they repair your weapon

they only do it once per life and respawn every blood moon

[zinc monolith]

But then I threw a weapon in after and it repaired that one

It refused to repair the weapon I have with the strong fusion ability

[fiery trail]

odd

usually it being strong or not doesn't matter

the way to get the best weapon in the game is to fuse a royal guard claymore to a silver lynel horn and give it to an octorok over and over until it reaches max damage

[zinc monolith]

Does it have the "strong fusion" power tho 😩

[fiery trail]

what does that mean

OH you mean the gerudo weapons yes those are fucked i believe

[fiery trail]

time for me to get an Akkala spoiler ||dream home||

[fiery trail]

best cave in the game awards go to Isle of Rabac

if you haven't gone to the Isle of Rabac yet please do

[regal needle]

where? the ||crab island?||

[fiery trail]

yes

[mental igloo]

I've been to every single cave in the game and i don't even remember what was in there

all i can remember is ||lava and rails|| but that's it

[fiery trail]

that's mostly what it was
||I was impressed at the scale of it honestly
just this spectacle as you go deeper and deeper in the cave and there's lava everywhere and shit||

nothing tremendous gameplay-wise, just cool environment

[fiery trail]

do the depths colosseums refresh after blood moons

[strong arrow]

Yes

[fiery trail]

no way awesome

respectfully what the fuck were they thinking with the Cugukaram Lightroot

[strong arrow]

This is why I love the floating colosseum. Great way to farm Lynel parts

[fiery trail]

i reached it by ||stacking 7 springs on top of eachother and whacking them and i barely reached it||

i see no other way to make it up there than my method honestly, it's so high up for no reason

[mental igloo]

I did most of my Depths exploration with the Goblin Glider so...

[fiery trail]

wtf|| king gleeok third phase|| is a bit overkill

with the rules i've set for myself this guy is super super hard to deal with

[somber parcel]

I don't know your rules, but have you tried ||Rewind on the icicles||?

[fiery trail]

yeah i thought about it got my crap rocked

thunder rained on me and stuff

[strong arrow]

Use shock resistant armor/foods

[fiery trail]

hmm

i'm wondering cause you can't have both attack up food or shock resistant buff

[mental igloo]

Phase 3 is defined by how many heads you can knock unconscious before he gets out reach

[strong arrow]

Then just use a good bow and Gibdo bones, unless it's outside of the rules you've set for yourself. By the way, what are the rules you've set? Because I just want to get a better idea of what you will and won't do here

[fiery trail]

i'll list them, hold on

||-no food during combat, elixirs are allowed (fairy potions are especially useful but hard to come by)
-no upgraded armor
-no bow above 30 since you can fuse to powerful materials to easily reach high numbers anyway
-i only wear armor that give me 11 armor points and can't really change into another armor cause i don't like doing that + incentivizes the use of food and elixirs instead
-usually i limit myself on what weapon gets fused to what, but for bosses i just go all out and use higher-tier monster parts cause they're all HP sponges||

but i think my issue here was that i was severely under prepared

i have no shield currently and my weapons were a bit bad

had no food effect either and was low on fairies

[sullen widget]

||"No upgraded armor"||

so you're really playing like this

[fiery trail]

it's not so bad cause i do allow fairies

which means my survivability is tied to resource collection, which is neat

[strong arrow]

These conditions...

Are inhumane 😭

[fiery trail]

oh no are they lol

[sullen widget]

Ngl

[regal needle]

use keeses eye

[sullen widget]

playing the game without jumping sounds like a more fun challenge that's most likely easier

[fiery trail]

yeah was using aerocuda eyes during the fight for the thunder one and elemental eyes for the other

[fiery trail]

i just like the added difficulty
playing by trouncing every monster in my way isn't very fun for me

(btw all the rules i listed only pertain to combat)
(i have other rules like limit fast travel to a minimum, like to exit the depths for instance and only to the shrine above me)
(i also only carry 10 weapons, five bows and five shields maximum)

(also i never activate the sages during combat)

(ok i'll stop lol)

[fiery trail]

i love the bubbul frog costume it looks like San from Princess Mononoke

[mental igloo]

BotW and TotK do love their Ghibli references

[regal needle]

ironic to see that we can access mount ||atega in the depths but not on the surface of hyrule||

[fiery trail]

where is that one located again

[regal needle]

||gerudo mountains, then go west until you find a giant cliff you cant climb||

[fiery trail]

right, that one

[fiery trail]

i can't tell if parrying with an opal shield wets Link or not

would be quite useful for the Zora weapon bonus

[strong arrow]

Look at the visual effect after doing so

If Link is wet then it worked

[fiery trail]

it's such a subtle effect though

hard to see mid battle

[strong arrow]

If I remember correctly, it lasts a little while before Link dries up, so you can probably parry the last enemy and when the battle is over, then you can check

And if you haven't tried it yet, you can always test it outside of a battle

[fiery trail]

well parrying doesn't work outside of battle

[strong arrow]

You can take your shield out an press A outside of a battle, can you not?

[strong arrow]

I feel like there are too many blessing shrines, and a vast majority of them don't really feel earned.

[mental igloo]

Eh, they're all tied to Shrine quests and if not, it's free stuff, i like em'.

[zinc monolith]

how have they not brought back gerudo valley song in any zelda game after N64? iirc
it slaps so hard and yet

[fiery trail]

but that doesn't parry anything

when you parry with opal shield it splashes water around

i'm wondering if that water touches Link

[zinc monolith]

really? from my experience, each blessing had its own challenge beforehand

[fiery trail]

i'm glad there are this many blessing shrines

i feel lazy sometimes and after exploring a cave and finding one i like to be instantly rewarded

[zinc monolith]

that's the whole point of a blessing shrine 😄
tbh it could just give you the orb outside the shrine so you dont have to go thru 2 loading screens and a cutscene but that's just me

the lack of Test of strength shrines...... that's a good change those got repetitive

[fiery trail]

there are test of strength shrines they're called proving grounds

[zinc monolith]

ha except they're way more varied and fun

[fiery trail]

also technically the flux construct

they have 3 phases like the tests of strenght, they have 3 difficulty stages

[zinc monolith]

not a shrine tho

[fiery trail]

they are cause you get a crystal out of them and then you have to bring the crystal

and enter a shrine

[zinc monolith]

Oh ya I see what you're saying
I guess it's because I didnt have much fun fighting the guardian scouts

fluxes are cool fights

[fiery trail]

i love how all four runes are useful agains them

[strong arrow]

You could've mentioned parrying an attack, because I didn't know if you were specifically talking about parrying attacks, or just hitting the button with your shield out outside of a battle

[fiery trail]

usually parrying nothing does nothing

[fiery trail]

after playing the game a bit more i'm confident that the sages from the past are named ||Medoh, Rudania, Ruta and Naboris||
i think the fact you can get the ||divine beasts helmets|| after doing each dungeon and that ||wearing them will make the corresponding sage wear that helmet too|| and just the fact that ||all sages are wearing helmets to begin with||

[tropic fulcrum]

interesting characteristic of stakes... ||||

||https://fxtwitter.com/bran8bit/status/1667539615413334017?s=20||

[mental igloo]

Interdasting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HCIZFxr57U

[regal needle]

where the heck i can find a big clean black claymore pls i need it to find it

[strong arrow]

What is your strongest skill in Tears of the Kingdom? It could be building stuff with Ultrahand, finding good solutions to puzzles around the world, combat, anything you can think of that you're good at.

[onyx vale]

Hmmm

The only thing that comes to mind is that I'm good at mapping out good routes

[regal needle]

comitting war crimes all over hyrule

[onyx vale]

Like currently I have every phenomenon done except for the Gerudo one, and I hadn't explored anything south of Hateno and west of the Twin Peaks

So I figured I'd go from Lurelin zigzagging my way all the way to the desert

[mental igloo]

||Here's the Depths map of the ghost soldiers that can supposedly spawn it. ||

[regal needle]

ok ty

[fiery trail]

i'd like to say i'm good at combat but i don't particularly use advanced techniques or anything
i'm just quite consistent at getting parries/flurry rushes

[onyx vale]

Wait nvm I know what I'm good at

Snipes

I get the nastiest headshots

I often surprise myself with my accuracy

[fiery trail]

i had an ex who used to play skyrim

when i let her try botw she could consistently hit headshots

like, idk how much it translates but she used to play archer a lot or whatever you do in skyrim that involves a bow

[somber parcel]

Moving in the dark

[strong arrow]

I love how moving in complete darkness drains most of the color from Link's body, it's a very cool effect