Legend of Zelda!!

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https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1646151322134036488

Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica)

Join us on April 13th, 7 a.m. PT to watch the final pre-launch trailer for The Legend of #Zelda: #TearsOfTheKingdom, livestreamed on our YouTube channel. The trailer will be roughly 3 minutes long.

▶️ https://t.co/cwlMFlzLAb

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Twitter · Apr 12, 2023, 2:00 PM

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🤞

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can't wait for ganondorf to say "it's ganon time" and dorf all over link

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he better have a beard this time if he gets ‘restored’ or whatever

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oh crap yes i hope he has a beard

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skeletal ganon permanently would still be cool though

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but i think he won't get rehydrated

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something different

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yeah i think we'll get skeletal ganon still

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Hopefully we get

Neco arc

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https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-yskysn-ltg-thunder-thunder-gif-23523876

all this ganon needs to do is have an actually good final boss and not a Big Pig

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True

We got the big pig last game

In botw

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and it was by far the worst part of the game

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It was basically a cutscene

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📠

spider ganon also wasn’t very good

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I liked it 🙂

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it’s not exactly final boss material nor is it very hard in my humble opinion

the sequel should definitely nerf bullet time because with most enemies, including the boss you could just use bullet time and like spam a multishot bow with bomb/ancient arrows and win

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no it was kinda cool

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the cinematic element really doesn’t make up for just how easy it is

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who cares the hard fight was before

the cool pig fight is the reward

with the most epic music in the whole game

• if the pig fight wasn't here people would complain the final boss of the most open ended game ever takes place in a closed place or whatever other bullshit

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it wasn’t hard though

• cool pig doesn’t look very cool and the easy stuff does suck

they could’ve made it hard very easily as shown by bosses like Maz Koshia and literally every previous final boss in the series being decently hard

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well yeah if you completely suck the marrow out of the game the final fight is gonna be easy af

try master mode without having freed the champiosn and come back to tell me it was easy

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try the dlc which came out after a year after the original release and purposefully challenge yourself and tell me it was easy

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the whole point of the game is that you're getting stronger in order to face ganon

of course if you did everything the game had to offer you're gonna steamroll the final boss

that's my point

brush master mode aside i'm just saying this for the added difficulty but honestly doing the divine beasts but not freeing the champions is something you can do and it doesn't whittle down the boss's health

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other games even in its own series do not follow this principle

the final boss should be the hardest one no matter what and it just isn’t

you shouldn’t have to handicap yourself to get challenge out of it

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ah yes let's compare botw to the rest of the series, they're both extremely similar afterall, botw isn't trying to change the formula or anything

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ok that's just not true, final bosses aren't supposed to be the hardest bosses in their games

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you shouldn't but you can

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what

it’s supposed to be a test of all the skills you’ve learnt

which is what maz koshia did which shows the devs can do this

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yeah but it's not supposed to be hard

yeah but maz koshia isn't the final boss he's a secret boss

that's why he's hard

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‘nope lol just use a bow which fires totally straight against a boss which has one attack’

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thunderblight is also hard because ???

heck the lynels are harder than ganon so your point doesn't stand

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what

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wait no actually it does

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it absolutely does that makes it stand more

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i'm confused

hold on what was i arguing about

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the final boss should be the hardest because that’s standard unarguable game design

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right, bosses

uhh is bowser the hardest boss in odyssey

(idk what other games you've played)

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yes

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i'm fairly sure he isn't

knucklotec was harder for me

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none of the bosses in odyssey are hard but I would put bowser’s final one as the hardest

oh if you mean postgame stuff too then maybe not

but botw literally has no postgame

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well yeah see the idea of postgame defeats your point though

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apart from one quest which doesn’t even count towards 100% completion iirc

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postgame bosses are and should be harder than the final boss

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there is no postgame boss

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maz koshia ?

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you can play the dlc before you beat ganon

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you usually don't

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I think (?) I think that’s what I did

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i didn't

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if the game allows you to then it’s at least one of the many intended options

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but like, put botw aside, the statement of "final boss should be the hardest" is just false

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why

ok but it’s fair to say no boss before the final one should be harder

after the ‘final’ one then yeah sure

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not necessarily

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botw just does it weirdly where one of the 4 blights is the hardest boss in the game

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for instance mother 3 the hardest boss in the game isn't the final one in this game

it's either the mecha draco or the instruments in the attic

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is the final boss still hard

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it is hard but not harder than other bosses

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ok I’ll make an exception if the game generally has hard bosses but

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heck the one boss right before the final boss is harder

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botw has one hard boss that you don’t have to pay extra money for

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and lynels

they're not "bosses" but they are harder than all bosses

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ancient arrow

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that doesn't count

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‘but that’s too easy!!!!’ its an option

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if you want to loot them

it is an option

so is pexing until you're level 99 in all RPGs

is it the intended solution ? no

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yeah but that’s tedious and time consuming

getting good at botw is easy peasy

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ancient arrows are costly and rare

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step 1: go the top right corner of the map
step 2: profit

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yeah it still costs a lot of rupies

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actually for a change of conversation and also to make it sound like i don’t totally hate the endgame because i don’t

hyrule castle is imo probably the best part of the game

most similar to normal Zelda dungeons with killer music, lots of lore and secrets and is actually somewhat hard to traverse

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it is the best dungeon for sure

but it's not the best part imo

for me the best part was... well, story wise, the assault on vah ruta

with the music and all urgh

but like just exploring the world itself was amazing

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yeah

there’s good parts for people individually but from an ‘objective’ pov i think it’s the best area

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actually i retract that statement, best part of the game was the great plateau

and i am a biiit disappointed the rest of the game wasn't as tightly crafted as the great plateau

the great plateau makes you do all kind of stuff that makes you wonder "man if that's the tutorial i can't wait to see the whole game !!!" and then the whole game doesn't even try to reproduce what you did on the great plateau

okay maybe eventide is one briliant exception

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i think the only reason it feels tight is because you do have 4 objectives you have to do before you can move on, no getting around it

the rest of the game is very similar but without forced quests like this

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you but even if you self impose such a challenge in other parts of the game it doesn't feel as good as the great plateau

it feels as though the great plateau is just filled with stuff to see and do at every corner while the rest of the game spaces stuff out more

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there’s loads at the beginning it just feels like that because you’ve probably done so much all the time I come across an area i just think wow I remember that bit that was so cool

I also really like both of the large snowy mountains

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hmm idk

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I think there’s two of them

something about them just feels grand and mysterious

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like if i compare the snowy region of the great plateau and something like hebra

hebra has a lot of downtime

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I remember running away from the cursed dragon the first time I saw it directly

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ice lizalfos that are annoying as fridge

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that’s because you don’t know where to go yet

if there was a marker beforehand that gave you the location of the dragon or a shrine it would feel more like the plateau

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see yeah great example, lanayru was great but only because of the dragon at the top and the subsequent fight

remove the dragon and lanayru is boring there's nothing to do here

there's like one shrine at the bottom

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but even the gerudo highlands I really like

no dragon

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gerudo highlands was cool but also weird

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maybe I just like snowy mountains regardless of how botw does it

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botw's snowy mountains are cool though

reminds me that standing in the shade in the desert actually prevents you from taking heat damage

this game is amazing

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that we can agree on

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I want to Zell the Da

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she zel on my da till i breathe on the wild

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She mastering on my sword till i tri the force

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I found this bingo for the trailer, honestly pretty much all of these are solid guesses

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yeah i think this is pretty plausible

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one hour left

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https://tenor.com/view/dawn-majora-finalday-gif-9607331

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even better

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yo we should react together in vocal if you're comfortable with that @fluid scroll

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I won’t be able to make it live unfortunately

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ahhh gotcha

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I’ll watch it like 10/20 minutes late

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ok nevermind it’ll actually be way later because reasons

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so this trailer delivered

i think it's on par with the switch presentation trailer

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ok so second best trailer of all time then looking forward to it

first thing I see

I’ll believe it when I see it

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okay lordly though

don't watch it if you don't wanna see like heavy story details

it shows a lot of story stuff

like, a lot

don't wanna get into specifics

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I watched the Batman after reading a wiki plot summary of it and it’s still my all time favourite movie so that shouldn’t be an issue

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https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

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look at this dude

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That trailer was sick and now I am beyond the beyond excited I was before

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no way magolor in zelda

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Is it still possible to order the special/collectors edition of totk?

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You'd probably need to check whatever stores accept preorders

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Aight…

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monster hunter!?!?!?

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||https://fxtwitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1646524951959330817||

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||https://fxtwitter.com/DaxerAivi/status/1646525578751909893?s=20||

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https://tenor.com/view/squidward-oh-no-hes-hot-shaking-gif-16063591

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i'm so unbelievably excited for this game holy shucks

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https://fxtwitter.com/ActualAero/status/1646602951589351454?s=20

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now let’s hope this epic trailer theme is actually in the game

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best i can do is final boss or credits theme lol

or intro theme

man this theme is a banger

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It'll be in the next Smash game

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https://twitter.com/matthewmercer/status/1646676756122705922?t=n0nuB4pRwg_q1-DH5VoLCg&s=19

Matthew Mercer (@matthewmercer)

I just got the go-ahead from Nintendo, so I can FINALLY announce my absolute pleasure to be voicing Ganondorf in the Legend of #Zelda : #TearsoftheKingdom.

An immense honor that I have thrown myself into doing justice.

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Twitter · Apr 14, 2023, 12:48 AM

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His Wikipedia page has already been updated

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Like his voice wasn't immediately recognizable

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More like Legend of Smellda

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Really I'm surprised no one mentioned Riju all growed up

And Teba's kid

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are there companion npcs now?

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yep

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i mean, did we have to mention it ? it was pretty clear both Tulin and Riju grew up

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we doxxed zelda we know where she is

wait lol what a new commercial about totk leaked ||https://www.reddit.com/r/zelda/comments/12l3iqr/totk_leaked_slightly_unfinished_version_of_the/||

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people are crazy 💀

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nah it was a dead giveaway with the jungle trees of faron to the left

i even watched a reaction video where a guy answered "obviously you're near the jungle"

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I do not remember faron being over there

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wait

how are we gonna take pictures in this game

if we don't have the sheikah slate anymore

||https://fxtwitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/1646800554960486400||

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obviously camera rune on your palm

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Controversy ensues

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zonai magic eyes

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Kind of.
They're cool

Riju rocking her own Urbosa's Fury

Tulin taking charge

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https://fxtwitter.com/Murdoink/status/1646660624745635840?s=20

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i'm anxiously waiting for "the catch" with totk

there must be a catch right

is the catch just the heavier cost ? is that seriously it ?

i'm completely expecting something to be botched upon release and reviews will tear down the game

either it runs terribly, or it makes switches overheat, or it has save corruption glitches every two minutes... or the resolution is different than botw... or idk man

i'm fuuuully expecting the game to have a catch and it's gonna be a mean one

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i think the bad part is that it's 70 and will probably have overpriced dlc

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The catch is your gear is awful if you haven't beat BotW

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the catch is that you can’t eat for two days after buying

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A catch as if it's not going to get patched out within days if it's found

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The catch is that there's a day one patch so you have to wait a bit before playing your 70 usd game

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/597252687733587978/1097326245827596328/Snaptik.app_7222570015524998446.mp4

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https://vxtwitter.com/looygi/status/1647360133704327171?s=46&t=VuV8QVOh6rW6bahqvEK9Ug

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I'm digging this new "Dox Zelda" trend

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She did tell us to find her

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Tomorrow we'll get her IP

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ahh it's starting, I am now getting goosebumps from the totk trailer

didnt have them when i watched it initially but now it's working

next step is crying in front of it and i'll know it's a good trailer

(yes i cried in front of the 2017 switch presentation trailer because dude the MUSIC)

also btw guys as far as we know

Revali, Great Deku Tree and Teba's voice actor isn't part of the voice cast in totk

it's possible all three are dead to account for that which is pretty sad lol

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i have unfortunate news this voice actor is a piece of shit and i wasn't aware oops this means nothing

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drama!

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https://twitter.com/ZeldaUniverse/status/1647972192230031360?t=9TyEmgJnNOhCx3CeBlwcog&s=19

Zelda Universe (@ZeldaUniverse)

New artwork of Ganondorf from The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom. 👀

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Twitter · Apr 17, 2023, 2:36 PM

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sexiest green man alive

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shrek want to know where you live

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🧍

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you know an interesting place in BOTW that people don't talk about enough......?

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wha

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idk im asking

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I’m still wondering why someone built a military training camp right in front of Korok Forest

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I likes the skull lake

Too bad it has no use other than a questline for that monster guy

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It’s also the place where you see the shooting star for one of Rex’s salvager gear

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Yep! Theres one beautiful place in the game with no shrine and no quest and it took me several years to find it

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where is this mythical place?

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It's Lindor's Brow, north of Ridgeland Tower

Theres like two koroks here and a guy who wants ro race you I think ?

It's weird how I didnt find it for years

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it sounds peaceful

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The goddess shrine in Faron.
It feels like a place genuinely lost to time and to get there is a danger in and of itself.
I think it was the first one I found too

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How about the Colosseum?
Don't know what people say about it, other than it's not a bad spot to grab some early gear.

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Colosseum was sick. Kind of hope they restore it in TotK

Fight a bunch of Hyrule Warriors || || and earn bank

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Would be cool if it hosted an arena-type challenge similar to the Master Sword trials.

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https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/nintendo-switch-game-vouchers/

can get pikmin 4 and zelder

that's like

that's like

30 dollars off

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You have to have Nintendo Online, but because of Zelda's price increase you do save money regardless of if you care about Nintendo Online.

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Way ahead of ya buddy

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I want to own the games physically though... Now that I think about it 😔

My switch is no space on it
Like like, am I going to buy a new micro SD card just for a couple games... Before I get a new switch 2!

I don't even know buddy

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Could always scrap stuff you know you're never gonna play again

Though I know I'm stupid enough to just buy a larger microSD

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I'm always scrapping but then it's like, what if I wanna play this.. what if I wanna play that.. then I gotta wait man

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Yeah, that's why I dish out on the micro....I mean except some things.
Like I know I'm not playing Lego City Undercover anymore

So I'm fine freeing up that space

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But I want the box

See all my pikmins alongside one another

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I have the space and the money saved from the vouchers.
So I'm content

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UK gang saving some money

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https://vxtwitter.com/looygi/status/1648437719872466944?s=46&t=HZB_FvVjeG8I6rvtXuZP9w

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People be reenacting those memory challenges from BotW

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they were both on the great plateau so it couldn't have been too hard

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The memory challenges weren't too hard either.
But it to be

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So it takes 100 years for Link and leaves him with amnesia, but it takes a week for Ganondorf, whose body is far more decayed, and he immediately begins his conquest...

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https://vxtwitter.com/looygi/status/1650216067761930241?s=46&t=_v7lrpVQSP2q6gjgpu0RnA

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Everyone is at the great plateau or what

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Legend of the Great Plateau, am I right?

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probably a cutscene where the moon spawn some monster and the woman kills them

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the leaked ad finally released for real https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUcBlvw0LSk

oh it wasn't complete, that's why

damn they really hammer the point home that you need to experience with the mechanics and the chemistry engine to have fun

that's awesome

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damn

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replaying botw lately

it's so weird how soon we're gonna explore the exact same hyrule but in a completely different context

so so so exciting

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And hopefully with Miis but probably not

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with miis ?

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Behind the scenes the human NPCs use Miis as a base, and modders have figured out how to get it to work with custom Miis.

TotK's NPCs in trailers visually appear to also use Miis as a base. There was a discussion in #discuss-games almost two weeks ago.

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yeah I knew that I was the instigator for that discussion

i'm wondering why you're saying "hopefully with miis"

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I'm hoping you could use your own Miis in the game (w/o modding), since the last trailer made it look like you might be able to 'recruit' NPCs to travel with you.

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ohhhh

yeah no it won't happen

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Probably not, sadly would be a known missed opportunity since that behind-the-scenes stuff has already been uncovered.

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no way new gameplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EMZzW7hj0M

also new runes

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this makes me so excited oh my gosh

i'm giggling and squealing at every little thing i see dude i'm sooo happy

ULTRAHAND IS SO COOL

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the so called "tears" on link are extension for battery

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i don't think those are the tears

the tears are rather the many gems all the other main characters are wearing

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it feels mind boggling that Totk will basically make botw, the "best game ever", completely obsolete

like, what the hell

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They expected people to buy it six years ago, so they moved on to the sequel, not everyone has a Nintendo Switch even today, so they would still play Breath of the Wild first.

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he's so cute

also apparently the archaic tunic and the archaic uhhh pants are like, the equivalent to the old shirt and pants from botw

meaning you probably can't upgrade them and that makes me incredibly sad

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Ikr I can't wait

There are so many tiny things

Bomb flowers are back!

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i need this game so bad

the wait is going to be horrendous

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can the tears be a metaphor? like the islands falling like tears

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interesting to see a ||gacha machine|| in the game for ||machine parts||

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People think it could be that yellow thing zelda was holding in the new trailer

Or the tear shape objects seen on zelda, the champions and ganondorf

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both what zelda is holding and the stuff seen on the champions and ganon are the same thing yea

man IGN Japan messed up their preview and showed a bunch of stuff they weren't allowed to show

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not gonna spoil what they showed but man it made me even more excited for the game loool

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I'm like I wanna see more but I don't wanna see more

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i keep telling myself i wanna go blind but boy am i spoiling myself as much as possible lol

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Same, I've only seen SkillUp's preview video but I won't be watching any more until the game releases

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Ikr

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I'm glad they switched to a wheel for the abilities, instead of the horizontal menu

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yeah i'm glad too

going back to botw after playing totk will feel very bad lol

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Yes the wheel will make things easier to get to, there is a lot of that in the menus from what I've seen so far

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oh man they changed the way arrows are shot in midair
||now it depletes one third of the wheel for every arrow shot, and it doesn't deplete over time anymore||

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They took out the whistle sprint tho

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||this means with the starting wheel you'll be able to shoot 3 arrows no matter how fast you are||

dude nobihvugcyfgvh i cannot wait for this game

i'm ecstatic

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My thoughts exactly

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I might have to leave this chat

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Wise choice

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ok the purple rune allow you to ||stock vehicles, move them entirely
and cover it with green thing||

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Spoiler mark this please it's leaked info not officially approved by Nintendo

In fact spoiler mark the pictures too

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the new purple thing allow you to ||save and spawn build you made which is pretty cool||

||also it cost zonaite (the new minerals up right)||

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yesterday I learned Impa was Purah's sister

I had no idea lol I learned this by talking to Purah

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the great sky island ||is where the tutorial start (like the great plateau)||

||also temple of time||

here the entire map

map towers

center hyrule map

ganondorf spoiler

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i think we should create a separate thread about the leaks uh

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Perhaps

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you guys remember this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZmxvig1dXE

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more

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i should stop clicking on these lol

there @regal needle #1101934327614418995

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new leak

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZbcmPrPtII

still going up

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shit
the game has leaked
everyone, if you were waiting for a moment to get off of everything zelda related, now is the time

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spoiler

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well i know why link is virgin now

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don't go on youtube worst mistake i've ever made

(censored the actual spoiler don't worry but yeah it's all there lol)

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got taken down

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good

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TotK now sitting on my Switch menu.
Tauntin' me

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i must wait till amazon gives me it

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I have an important decision, because it releases the same day I'm gonna be on a flight:
Play it on the plane, or wait until I'm home?

[zinc monolith]

plane

[astral orbit]

Try not to crash the plane though

[zinc monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXMMtfTmbD0

[fiery trail]

plane but play in airplane mode

[icy plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/megan-interesting-gif-14176736

I await your guys’ thoughts once the game releases.

[astral orbit]

I will eagerly give it...or stream it. Either or

[sullen widget]

https://twitter.com/oatmealdome/status/1655311266326409219?s=46&t=aIWTVw9NpxawqBNd4z5E8A

OatmealDome (@OatmealDome)

[Tears of the Kingdom]

A day 1 patch (version 1.1.0) will be made available at launch.

There are no patch notes available at the moment, and I do not plan to look into the update contents to avoid spoiling myself.

The patch size is ~320 MB.

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Twitter · May 7, 2023, 8:38 PM

[regal needle]

🗿

[sullen widget]

Lol

[zinc monolith]

incomplete game!~!

[somber parcel]

Well I guess I can't play it on the plane then.

[fiery trail]

no fret it's only a patch that makes the game a lot more stable in terms of framerate

you can still play the game on the plane it might just slow down in some instances

i think... the game is intended to have a more stable framerate than botw, but only with the day one patch
and without it it's just gonna chug in some instances like in korok forest in botw yknow

[fiery trail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNCgpaMlOcs

[astral orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/cucui-cucui-ganon-ganon-ganondorf-terminal-montage-gif-23346173

[regal needle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu1Li_RZrQU

[regal needle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt70Be6_Gjo

[zinc monolith]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRKUv3cx/

[tame shadow]

https://quickvids.win/3ozo8xaU

[warm oasis]

Zelda final boss spoilers

[fiery trail]

dang totk might be uh

how do you say

awesome

[haughty moat]

People who have TOTK how is it?

[strong arrow]

Boring at the very start because it's the most basic of tutorials, but once you're done with that area the game is amazing pretty much from the jump

Although despite the day 1 patch, framerate drops are definitely to be expected, but they're not as bad as rumored to be prior to the patch

[fiery trail]

Right now i'm in a "what the fuck did they feed these devs" type of mood

[regal needle]

i discovered addiction

[strong arrow]

Also as an extra note: There's definitely more story involved, and the game kind of leans into a slightly more linear route, but that'll just because of what the story tells you to do. You can still do whatever you want like in the first game, but the game sort of gives you stronger recommendations to follow the story this time around

[zinc monolith]

Just found out hetsu's name isn't hetsu, it's hestu

[fiery trail]

No way

Its like when I found out it was Pridemoor Keep instead of Primedoor Keep

[zinc monolith]

I'm not alone!

[strong arrow]

Found that one out in Age of Calamity, wonder if there are any others I've been mispronouncing this whole time

[shell oxide]

Its not hetsu??

Actually crazy wow

[zinc monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-oprah-meme-you-get-everybody-pointing-point-gif-17954303

You're dyslexic! You are dyslexic you are dyslexic

[shell oxide]

I'm gonna dys-locate your bones

[zinc monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-blown-away-blown-back-gif-22009589

[tropic fulcrum]

https://twitter.com/rPrequelMemes/status/1657455020864950274?s=20

Prequel Memes (@rPrequelMemes)

Tears of anabolic https://t.co/gDn0f6a65z

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Retweets

270

Twitter · May 13, 2023, 6:37 PM

[zinc monolith]

You guys know that one rito around the tower in the region that has kakariko village

He's blocking the tower door
He talks about mushrooms, But how do I get him to open the door?

[strong arrow]

He's not blocking the door. In the conversation he mentions that it's locked. Sadly I don't know how mushrooms are supposed to solve that problem

[regal needle]

some towers are locked

you need to progress in the story

[strong arrow]

Guess the game is more linear than I thought it was

[sullen widget]

There's a cave to the right

[zinc monolith]

And then what

[sullen widget]

You can get into the tower using the ascend ability

[onyx vale]

Oh my god
I just finished the ||Wind Temple||

My breath has been taken

[sullen widget]

that's wild

[onyx vale]

That was one of the best ||boss fights I might have ever played||

I was in tears

Of the Kingdom

[sullen widget]

There's a forum to use for spoilers if this is major

[onyx vale]

Oh whoops

[sullen widget]

I'm not clicking it but just do what you think is right

[onyx vale]

I won't give away any details about it, dw, I just wanted to share my awe

Just spoiler marked it because I didn't want to give anyone high expectations

[fiery trail]

combat in totk is so so so much more fun than botw somehow

it seems they've made enemies more tough across the board but now Link is so OP even in the beginning of the game that it doesn't matter

as a point of reference i've already killed black enemies quite easily and i didn't realise they were black until after i killed them lol

if and when master mode drops it's gonna be immensely fun

[zinc monolith]

Wheeere 😭

[regal needle]

around the tower you can find an entrance to a cave

[zinc monolith]

I found the cave, tried ascending too

[zinc monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/quarantine-birthday-aries-march-birthday-april-birthday-coronavirus-gif-16697681

[fiery trail]

Starting to warmp up to ultrahand vehicles

I made a simple car out of the wooden hudson constructions part and i can easily recreate it, it goes quite fast too

Very much gives me master cycle vibes

[regal needle]

yeah but you cant activate it

wait no you just have to move the sticks

[strong arrow]

What's your favorite item to fuse with a shield?

[haughty moat]

I want link to fuse me with a shield so he can ride me down a hill

[zinc monolith]

Bomb barrel!

[strong arrow]

I expected this to be one of the answers, and I agree. I love the bomb barrel + shield combo. The level of style that comes out of shield surfing right next to an enemy with it is unmatched, and it's a really fun way to gain altitude

[fiery trail]

rocket

[zinc monolith]

Look at all the people that need to get a life!!!!

[narrow helm]

[regal needle]

meat pfp

[zinc monolith]

Thanks to the green goblin machine, I have conquered the depths

[strong arrow]

Such a cool area of the game, I didn't wanna leave until I ||ran out of brightbloom seeds 😕||

[fiery trail]

man the shrines where they ask you to use recall are the best

they're not super hard but idk it's just a super satisfying power to use

[strong arrow]

Ranking each starting power:

1. Ascend: This will probably change once I actually take the time to make cool stuff using Ultrahand, but I love how useful it is, and I especially love how many areas of the game are designed around it

2. Fuse: I've been able to pick up this ability very quickly. I love the versatility it has, and there's all kinds of crazy combinations I can make with it.

3. Ultrahand: This ability is very fun to use, and the possibilities to what you can make are literally endless, from a ||bomber jet|| to a ||rocket log||. It's all very cool stuff that I think can be more enjoyable if I just put more time into learning what I can make.

4. Recall: This ability is my least favorite, but that doesn't mean it's bad, it just means that I can't really enjoy it as much as the rest of them. I love using this on bomb barrels when enemies throw them at me. I also love how objects retrace their exact path with the exact same speed and physics that they had before. Whole lot better than stasis from Breath of the Wild, and when combining it with the Ultrahand ability, I can pretty much get a similar effect to it

[fiery trail]

damn ascend in first

[strong arrow]

I'm also surprised, as I thought it was going to be the most boring of the bunch

[fiery trail]

surprisingly enough fuse is the ability i use the least

but also i love it so so much

it's just, my weapons rarely break so i don't use it much to make stronger ones

[strong arrow]

I use it all the time, and I pretty much have it down to a science:

• Use a new weapon as the base, and fuse a used weapon over it.

• Stronger weapons always go on the bottom in case the top one breaks.

• Always have a hammer on your person.

• If you're gonna keep a two-handed swinging weapon on hand, make sure it's a hammer. If not, then make sure it's a strong weapon.

[fiery trail]

hm okay personally i just fuse cool weapons with cool horns

[sullen widget]

I've been keeping two handed elemental weapons on me at all times

electric lizalfos horn + Two handed weapon is an insane combo because of the spin attack

[strong arrow]

I only keep elemental weapons on me because I don't wanna spend money on warm clothes

[sullen widget]

What parts of the story have you done so far?

Because ik in at least one part ||elemental weapon will be extremely useful||

[strong arrow]

||Rito, I'd do more but the depths are awesome and I'm looking for treasure in there||

[onyx vale]

I never do this lol

I just do strong base + strong horn = strong weapon

[strong arrow]

Strong horns are good, but they also break with the weapon that they're fused to

[regal needle]

gerudo

and yes i know about that

[strong arrow]

When fusing weapons on top of weapons, it's always the weaker one that breaks first, but it's also a good idea to give your weapon a strong base, because you don't want your royal-guards-spear-stick to break because it has a weak base, and you end up losing both weapons when it does

[fiery trail]

yeah well weapons break

you find them everywhere it's no big deal

[regal needle]

i highly recommend going to hateno village

[fiery trail]

for what reason

[regal needle]

better access to zora area and the laboratory quest

[strong arrow]

Of course, but you can still make them last longer than if you just fused a horn onto it

[regal needle]

when you finish the quest you will get another for the ||moveable tp||

[sullen widget]

And dye shop

literally the first thing i did after getting the paraglider was head over there to dye my clothes

[fiery trail]

dude horriblins have such a better french name

in french they're "trogoblins"

a portmanteau of "troglodytes" (which means "lives in caves") and goblin

i think troglodytes is a word in english too

[strong arrow]

It is

[fiery trail]

then yeah i'm gonna call them trogoblins from now on

don't care if people don't understand it's absolutely the better name

like "line marker" in splatoon 3

[fiery trail]

i have mental problems i keep calling the hoverboard "the riblin"

if you know you know

[astral orbit]

If it makes you feel better.
I don't know but it still sounds like you have mental problems

[fiery trail]

the reference ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gd_aC3Ig_I||

[astral orbit]

Ah

[onyx vale]

Hateno village:

[strong arrow]

What is your favorite part of the map? It could be a specific location, level of elevation, or anything like that

[astral orbit]

So I just did the Rito village dungeon but I've explored East-West as far as Kakariko.
So far, the ||Stormwind Ark|| has been my favorite and it's been incredible

[onyx vale]

What is the best use for ||golden apples||? [very minor fruit variant spoiler]

[astral orbit]

I only have 1 so I've been scared to use it

[onyx vale]

I got a few but idk what they're good for

Besides extra health

[astral orbit]

Make a pie?

[fiery trail]

great question... very hard to answer

i think Hyrule is my favorite part of the map

[sullen widget]

The ||depths|| under korok forest

Looks really cool

[fiery trail]

so idk why but dazzlefruits are super effective against stal enemies

[strong arrow]

||I tried using it to light up the depths but all it did was flashbang my screen||

[fiery trail]

good

[strong arrow]

I'm personally loving ||the depths|| a lot, I love ||going on treasure hunts and following where the statues point. Right now I'm trying to follow a certain set of statues for a quest from Josha, but I've been following the wrong statues the whole time, although I personally don't worry too much about it given that it's always worth the journey||

[fiery trail]

beyond the wow factor, ||the depths|| feel pretty shallow now that I explore more

||the depths feels like the overworld in botw, if that makes sense
lots of monster camps, some overworld bosses here and there, not a lot of npcs, something you repeat a lot...||

||most of what i've explored feels pretty samey||

||only traversal changes a bit between regions
though i bet the depths of death mountain will shake things up||

[strong arrow]

Regardless of the sort of gimmick-ified emptiness that is that area, I still personally love it for what it is, and it's one of my favorite areas of the game

||Although the Hyrule Castle Chasm is completely unplayable||

[fiery trail]

||i do think it's by design||

||i thiiiink it's the final area of the game
where you're supposed to fight ganondorf
saw some... electric like-likes ??? then got assaulted by angry trogoblins, thought "i'm definitely too low level for this||

[haughty moat]

Me looking at every message despite not having played the game yet

[fiery trail]

oof i'm sorry hope we're not spoiling too much

[haughty moat]

No you good

Keep going

[astral orbit]

Enemy spoiler
||The nigh immortal floormasters got me to verbally panic and scream on a couple of occasions||

Moderate Character spoiler
||Sidon is cheating on me with his fianceé. No but seriously, bro is getting MARRIED? Good for him. What a chad||

[zinc monolith]

[zinc monolith]

Found out that a rock is a perfect counterbalance for a korok
Knowledge is power

[frigid crystal]

He's so hungry, Tevlev could eat an Octorok.

Based Link pfp idea, excuse me princess, it sure is boring around here, Zelda defeated Ganon before Linklev could get to him

[zinc monolith]

[zinc monolith]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRKWXxYV/

[tame shadow]

https://quickvids.win/zcb1zybG

[strong arrow]

The improvements never cease to amaze me

[somber parcel]

Changes to a town spoilers:
||The people of Hateno Village are obssessed with mushrooms, to the point of wearing mushroom hats and their village featuring mushroom decor. Cece, the lady behind the mushrooms, wants to do away with farming, resulting in poorer nutrition. The resulting malnutrition would lead to the people of Hateno becoming short, so between the height and the hats the other Hylians might refer to the people of Hateno village as 'Toads', eventually leading to the founding of the Mushroom Kingdom, which you may know from Mario Bros. If this theory is true, Illumination should be releasing a Legend of Zelda movie in the next 5 years.||

Side quest story spoilers:
||Yes I know Reede wins and Cece actually loves the vegetables||

[strong arrow]

Enemy spoilers:

||I love watching monsters fight constructs, especially with the fact that there's no guarantee that one side will always win. Sometimes it'll be monsters who win, while other times the battle may go to the constructs.||

[fiery trail]

so I scanned my Guardian amiibo and its drop was interesting
it gave me ||an ancient blade, something with 50 fuse attack power, it's basically the thing at the end of ancient arrows lol, idk if i should stick it to a weapon or use it as an ancient arrow, i wonder if it could vaporise an enemy ? it does the same sound as an ancient arrow when i draw the bow with it too||

||okay well i got my answer, don't stick it to a weapon, use it as an arrow
that's a fun item https://vxtwitter.com/Xiphos_YT/status/1657914389570408448||

[strong arrow]

||If you stick it to an arrow against a powerful enemy, one whose loot you don't care about, then that's a free kill if you don't have any arrows.||

||https://youtu.be/QFATJg1Zx9s||

[fiery trail]

||i have 800 hours in botw i know how an ancient arrow works 13 ||

[fiery trail]

spoilers about the Zonai people
||for a game based specifically on the Zonai there's a distinct lack of them||
||botw was the sheikah game and we got a sheikah village, around 130 or 140 sheikah monks and even evil sheikahs||
||but the zonai ? there's like.. two in the game apparently and they died more than 10 000 years ago, so even the game based on zonais is devoid of them||
||unless they show more zonais in the later parts of the game but i highly doubt it... all we really see is the remnants of their civilisation and their technology but i mean... we already go that with the sheikahs, why the retread ? just show us the big goat people, it's so interesting||

[sullen widget]

I think you missed #1101934327614418995

[zinc monolith]

[onyx vale]

Rate the drip

[fiery trail]

Decent/10

[strong arrow]

2-3/10

Not a lot of coherence going on here. Pants look pretty weird with the blue Hylian Tunic, and that headgear looks like it was randomly thrown in there for some extra flair, which sadly doesn't work.

[sullen widget]

Rate my fit, i call it the "I don't have the full barbarian set"

[haughty moat]

This should be male armor in all games

[strong arrow]

5-6/10

My own personal taste for the barbarian armor does affect this, so keep that in mind.

The hat works well, especially when looking at the green paint on the barbarian armor. The armor itself looks very nice with the alternative colors.

Not much else to say about it, just a nice set of armor you have here

[icy plinth]

I recommend the male Gerudo headpiece.

[sullen widget]

i think feral OoT link is funnier

[zinc monolith]

Rate the drip

Actually, I don't know if this is spoilers because it's all just breath of the wild the cosmetics

[warm oasis]

spoilers for majora's mask

[strong arrow]

7/10

I found this one a bit harder to score than the others.

The Fierce Diety mask works very well with the black Zora armor, which that itself goes together perfectly with the black Soldier's Greaves

[zinc monolith]

[strong arrow]

I hate spoilers in YouTube thumbnails, of course you can just hit the "not interested" button, but once you've seen it you can't unsee it. Certain people really just like to assume that everyone else is as far through the game as they are.

[tropic fulcrum]

https://fxtwitter.com/DitzyFlama/status/1659227880109359105?t=qDvzjYOOlA8fSKLekuvoVQ&s=19

[fiery trail]

Was i supposed to stumble unto the faron sky island content through a quest

Reached the sky island there unprompted and the quest tied to it is easily the best in the game

[regal needle]

the ones with four squares and the final boss in circle in the middle?

[fiery trail]

Found an oversight

Enemy teeth have additional arrow fuse damage that isnt reflected when sorting by fuse damage in the up menu

Lizalfos talon for instance is very damaging but is quite low in the list because fusing it to a sword would yield poor results

But fusing it to an arrow is very very good

Same for most tooth, fangs and claws you get on enemies

(Basically any enemy drop except horns and guts)

[zinc monolith]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRELfrW9/?t=1

[tame shadow]

https://quickvids.win/JCXIROqS

[zinc monolith]

I think this will affect the meta

[zinc monolith]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTREFjKb6/?t=1

[tame shadow]

https://quickvids.win/30caznRV

[zinc monolith]

Anyone know what amiibo this was lmao

[onyx vale]

Lmfao

I got a bomb barrel on my ||Ganondorf|| Smash amiibo once

[strong arrow]

Minor spoilers for an enemy in the Gerudo region, although it has been shown in the third trailer before:

I think ||Gibdos|| might be my new favorite enemy

[regal needle]

||theirs bones are op for arrows||

||only for arrows||

[strong arrow]

And also I just find it fun to defeat them, especially considering that they're weak to literally any elemental attacks

[strong arrow]

Also having a ton of ||dazzlefruit|| on hand is pretty much a guaranteed win for you

[regal needle]

good cheap vehicle ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apZCDNpeTnM||

[strong arrow]

Love that vehicle. The version I made was lopsided though so it moves as if I had joycon drift 😂

[zinc monolith]

is it faster than the goblin glider?

it's prob the same

[strong arrow]

Goblin glider?

[zinc monolith]

green goblin

[strong arrow]

Oh yeah the wing

It does start moving faster, so it should also equate to more speed in general

Plus it's more lightweight

[zinc monolith]

this device

[strong arrow]

Oh nevermind, I thought you were referring to something different

[regal needle]

yes

[strong arrow]

Speaking of which, does anybody know if ||Gibdo hives|| respawn after a blood moon?

[fiery trail]

i feel like the goblin glider or the airbike shouldn't be used too often

they break the game in half in ways the devs probably didn't intend

like, i initially climbed death mountain by using it
then realised i missed the whole point of the death mountain climb

using the rails and the minecarts was much more fun, hectic and roleplay-ish so i ended up reloading my save to try without it

[strong arrow]

Airbike is fast and you can gain a ton of altitude by using it

[fiery trail]

yes that is my entire point

stop using it it's too good

especially when the devs have made more fun ways to traverse the world in many parts of the world

if i had bypassed the death mountain climb with the glider i'd be sad

hell i bypassed a lot of hebra that way...

[sullen widget]

do whatever you want to have fun

[fiery trail]

i guess you're right

but also i think the devs want me to use the minecarts instead of the glider because they crafted a fun experience out of using them

and i think my soul will be more content if i do what the devs intended me to do

[strong arrow]

Plus it's not really game-breaking, as the developers intend for you to be creative with your approach to the game. It's not as linear as the story makes it out to be.

If you're down for the more RPG-style route, that's cool too. I'm just doing what I see as more efficient.

[fiery trail]

i don't think making an airbike is using creative energy
more like monkey see monkey do

[onyx vale]

The devs intended for you to find the road that is fulfilling to you

And give you all the freedom to do so

[fiery trail]

there's a vehicle i made myself out of wood parts i use quite often, it goes fast and is practical, i didn't borrow it from the internet, so it feels way more satisfying and justified to use it

[strong arrow]

Creative in the sense that it's not exactly how the game tells you how to do it

[onyx vale]

Personally I play similarly to Moz but what makes this game so great is that there's no single solution to the puzzle that is traversal

[fiery trail]

ngl i use the glider when the game frustrates me

for instance in the desert

cant see shit unless you're in the air, so crafting a vehicle to be airborne feels like a good solution

but what i'm saying is don't overuse it imo
but if you want to use it fine do what you want, just don't go saying "man i wish i took my time and explored more instead of using this boring glider"

but like for instance
for the korok delivery service quests
i think using a different vehicle every time depending on what the game is trying to tell you is WAY MORE fulfilling than just "fuck it, air bike"

[onyx vale]

That's fine but everyone has a different sense of fulfillment

Knowing 13 I bet he enjoys finding the most efficient ways to tackle challenges

[onyx vale]

Lol personally I just drag them there using the hand power. I don't wanna miss out on everything I find along the way

Not the biggest fan of these Korok quests btw

Usually I'm planning to go somewhere but then a Korok wants me to bring him somewhere else, to take a different path than the one I layed out for myself

They're optional, yes, but I don't want to have to go back to get the Korok later

[mental igloo]

It's not necessarily faster but it's just easier to control.

Just general quality of life things.

Not quite sure what the benefits the Goblin Glider keeps over the hover bike, there might be some that dane didn't mention since the video is essentially a sales pitch for a build-idea.

I personally prefer the Goblin Glider for it's aesthetics.

Feels very mad-science-y to use.

Meanwhile the bike just feels like you're riding a bike, woohoo vewy clever.

[onyx vale]

I wonder if the Master Cycle Zero is in this game

Don't answer that btw

[mental igloo]

No clue

it would be very pointless if it was tbh

[onyx vale]

Fair

[mental igloo]

since you can just make your own

[strong arrow]

Yes actually. Either that, the most stylish way to tackle a challenge, or the most outright ridiculous way to take it on

[mental igloo]

You can already make a bike by combining a small wheel, steering stick and stabilizer

[onyx vale]

Stabilizer is the ||little balancing guy||, right?

[strong arrow]

Yes

[onyx vale]

I have yet to toy around with building stuff

[mental igloo]

It should cost the same amount of Zoanite as the flying machines.
And while it will be nowhere near as practical as either of them, it does at least have a better battery life so it might be more viable in the early-game.

[onyx vale]

The most advanced thing I've made so far is likely a plank with a steering stick, two fans and two batteries to cross water

[fiery trail]

It sucks

[onyx vale]

W-well, ...you suck!

[fiery trail]

Its super hard to steer it goes to shit at the slightest bump and is just all around a bad build

[mental igloo]

i've noticed that similar to the goblin glider to hover bike set up, the handling on the normal mono-bike changes depending on where the steering stick and stabiliser has been placed.

[regal needle]

how do i stock weapons, i dont wanna lose my biggoron sword

[fiery trail]

Go to ||tarrey town, do the quests until you can talk to rhondson||
Alternatively ||you can re-buy the biggoron sword at poe statues thingies||

Dude why is Riju taller than Link

Shes literally a teen

[regal needle]

i mean everyone is taller than link

and thank for the help

[fiery trail]

Welcome

[astral orbit]

Gerudo grow different, bruh

[zinc monolith]

isn't it like 5 years after botw

3 years min

[zinc monolith]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTREjaagW/?t=1

[tame shadow]

https://quickvids.win/2K4-Y2k6

[somber parcel]

||It's long enough for Hudson to have a child, and for said child to be old enough to be running around Tarrey Town and talking to people.||

[zinc monolith]

exactly what i was thinking

[fiery trail]

when the dust settles i think totk will be subject to a loooot of criticism

especially with three main aspects: story, retcons and just relationship with the first game in general

[mental igloo]

Yeah, i'm already kind of annoyed at how ||this game is just an alternate universe retelling of a significant chunk of the Zelda lore rather than a continuation of it. Like one of the most interesting prospects that the first trailer introduced through the implied return of Ganondorf would be that he'd be the one single thing remaining from the era of the previous games. Everything that we as the audience know from the older games Ganon would know as well, and thus he would have a strongly defined vendetta against Link and Zelda that they themselves wouldn't fully understand and the mere idea of that was so fascinating to me.||

||Then they decided to reset his story but this time while just making him morally reprehensible from the beginning. Rather than being a man who transformed into a demon as a result of his circumstances like the older games he's pretty much exactly as the modern day Gerudo thinks of him, a demon who merely posed as a Gerudo. When Ganon sees Link in the prologue of this game that is the first time he meets Hylia's Chosen Hero in person within this universe and to me that just cheapens their relations so hard.||

[fiery trail]

||tbh i'm not too bothered by this because i personally have no relation to other zelda games
this is my first zelda where i actually encountered ganondorf (i've played ocarina of time and TP but wasn't captivated enough to play them for long) so i'm not too bothered
however this isn't my first "breath of the wild" and it's weird how they kind of choose to ignore a lot of stuff about the first game
or just be shallow in the story
like specifically the 4 sages in the distant past.. who are they ? why are their faces hidden ? why are their masks the same design as the divine beasts ? were they also the divine beasts pilots ? why are their musical themes very similar to the original champions's themes ? why are they voiced by the champions voice actors ? why are all their cutscenes just cookie cutter rehashes of the same exact cutscene down to the same script just with the regional spin based on their race ?||

||the ancient sages are just so so shallow, they have nothing going for them, no personality, no character, no background... they could've been the original divine beasts pilots and that would have been very cool, idk make calamity ganon a part of the story too like goddamn his origin is not gonna be explained in this game ?? seriously??||

||and I know it's a meme at this point but where the fuck is all the sheikah technology ? where are the shrines the towers the guardians the divine beasts ? cause those things take some SPACE lol the shrines served as the underground in botw and you'd think you'd find more sheikah stuff in the depths but no it's only zonai stuff||

||it's like they said "ok let's make a sequel to botw but never address the events of botw, just somewhat mention them in sidequests, really just re-use the characters but only the characters and don't mention any past event ever please"||

anyway big rant over

aside from the story this game is amazing but yeah the story falls a bit flat imo imo imo

[strong arrow]

||They never addressed it in-game (yes I see this is the problem here), but the reason all of the Sheikah technology is gone is because the people of Hyrule didn't want it to be easily controlled if Ganon were to ever rise back to power||

[strong arrow]

||Maybe they could also explain how we went from Malice to Gloom as well||

[fiery trail]

||ok but how do you get rid of the underground facilities that are the shrines||

||how do you even remove all the sheikah walls of the shrines of resurrection
how do you get rid of the divine beast under it
how do you get rid of all that lol||

[strong arrow]

This is why I mentioned that there was a major problem in how they went about explaining it

But I'd just suggest (and this is not trying to be rude here) that you just enjoy the game. Nitpicks will lower your enjoyment of the game, and that's not a fun thing to think about when you finally get the long-awaited sequel, which is pretty much better in every way to its predecessor

[regal needle]

||the new champions are annoying as fuck||

||and also useless||

[fiery trail]

oh don't worry i'm doing that it's just...idk i'm trying to gauge whether i like this game more than botw or not and i have a hard time answering

maybe i should just have fun

btw uh

i keep seeing people say totk is way harder than botw

genuinely to me it's the opposite totk is way easier

am i an anomaly in the system or something

[strong arrow]

I think that Tears of the Kingdom is harder right now because of how new it is, and because we as a community have barely had any time to develop strategies to make the game easier for ourselves

[fiery trail]

if people are playing this game the way botw is played i understand if they find the game hard lol

gotta use items more people

muddle bud is in your pouch for a reason

[strong arrow]

I just started using it yesterday, and it's a pretty fun item to use

[fiery trail]

if you're not throwing chu jellies around nonstop you are playing the game wrong

all the items are fun to use i can't believe it wasn't in botw

throwing items just feels natural

like i can't believe they already had all these neat chemistry interactions will all the elements and decided "yknow what we're not gonna let players throw items"

YO BTW REAL QUICK

can we talk about something MESSED UP

remember Finley in BotW ? quick reminder if you don't : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGfuPgTAfm4

well... ||Finley and Sasan are still in TotK and for some fucking reason they are still dating and I swear these two characters are where the translation team put the MOST emphasis on saying they are a couple||

[strong arrow]

Hardware limitations. Breath of the Wild was made for the Wii U. This time around it feels like the developers were really able to get out a lot more of their ideas that had to be scrapped from Breath of the Wild.

[fiery trail]

||like it's actually insane why did they double down on this||

[fiery trail]

you could deposit items on the ground in botw and interact with them in battle i don't see how making a throw command that applies velocity to the item is out of the realm of possibilities

[strong arrow]

I will agree on that, as it makes no sense as to why they could've made throwing items possible on the Wii U

But maybe they just didn't have the ideas for that mechanic at all

Only thing that I have a major dislike for that I can think of right now is how much less items are worth now when you sell them

I'm not saying that getting rupees should be as easy as it was in Breath of the Wild, but now items are pretty much worth a third of their original price now from Breath of the Wild

[regal needle]

wait wtf

[strong arrow]

||They say the Zora take a long time to grow in height, meaning that Finley could be 16-17, but that's still a horrible excuse for what's essentially a grown man getting together with a girl who looks like she's in the middle of the first grade 😬||

[fiery trail]

||no i do think Finley could even be in her twenties but that's still not a reason to make her date a grown hylian lol it's so mssed up||

[onyx vale]

||Twenties in Zora years or human years?||

[mental igloo]

||I'm curious if the Japanese name for Malice changed as well or if it's still the same. Cause if it is then it does make sense. The Japanese word for malice was "Onnen" which is a negative spiritual substance in Buddhism that builds up from personal flaws, which inhibits enlightenments and gets people who accumulate enough of it closer to demonhood. Basically sin given form. And while Malice is indeed one of the aspects that accumulates Onnen, i feel the word "Gloom" encompasses the full idea of Onnen a little bit better than "Malice" does.||

[strong arrow]

In human years she would actually be in her fifties

Once again still a terrible excuse

[fiery trail]

||human years I guess ? like she's twenty earth years idk lol
but like in zora years she's still a child because.. well because she's still a child physically||

[onyx vale]

Moz what do you mean lol

[fiery trail]

i'm saying finley is twenty

actually hmm could even be closer to what 13 said maybe

[onyx vale]

What I meant was do you think she's born twenty-something years ago or do you think she has the mental capacity of a human in their twenties?

[fiery trail]

cause there's one "young" zora in botw that's around 100 year old and doesn't know Link

[fiery trail]

well both

[onyx vale]

Moz that is not how long lifespans work

[fiery trail]

how couldn't a zora achieve the same level of maturity as a human in the same time span

sounds like a skill issue to me

[onyx vale]

Because the brain is still developing

[fiery trail]

it had 20 years to develop are you kidding me

[onyx vale]

Lemme put it this way

[mental igloo]

||My best theory for where the Sheikah tech went is that after the calamity passed, the current day sheika found something that could make all of it disintegrate into blue light, similar to how Link temporarily disintegrates when teleporting.||

[onyx vale]

Picture a cat, after like two years it could be classified as an adult

[fiery trail]

YOOO okay new headcanon

i like that

[onyx vale]

Because by then its brain is fully developed

I'm guessing

[fiery trail]

hmm yeah but like

if anything this supports my theory even m-

wait no

actually no you're right

[onyx vale]

If a 100 year old Zora is still a child then its brain should still be developing

[fiery trail]

100 year old zora are young adults

like equivalent to twenties for human

[onyx vale]

Emphasis on if, I don't have a great picture of a Zora's lifespan

[fiery trail]

jeez imagine having to care for your child for around 100 years

yeah just bringing more info to the table dw

[onyx vale]

I'd fight for paid parenthood

[strong arrow]

Going off of the information here, and condensing it into a more obvious answer; They take a longer time to develop than humans

[fiery trail]

man i'm not used to smashing pots in totk cause in botw there was usually nothing in pots

[strong arrow]

I like how there's more hit stun when hitting multiple things at the same time

[fiery trail]

proving grounds shrines are so fun

how to make combat shrines actually fun, nintendo found the formula

[strong arrow]

Agreed. They're a great mix of combat, as well as a test of your abilities, rather than just being a test of combat skills

[fiery trail]

have you guys found a way for Link to have a somewhat discrete headgear that would show his hair unattached

and that could be upgraded

i'd like to rock the archaic tunic but it can't be upgraded so it's the closest workaround

[strong arrow]

Would you mind giving an example? Because I'm having a hard time following

[fiery trail]

for instance uh the jewel headpieces from gerudo town would be a good workaround but they attach his hair (with the blue hair band from botw)

i'd like something where his hair is left flowing instead

[strong arrow]

Sadly I wouldn't know how to help that, maybe you could try something like what you'd do for the good and go ask Cece in Hateno village for fashion advice, but other than that I really can't think of anything

[fiery trail]

holy crap the silver lizalfos horn lol

these devs are edgy bastards

[fiery trail]

yes, yes I was
i'm now disappointed I didn't..I completely butchered a very fun area of the game

[strong arrow]

Blue Lizalfos horn is pretty cool too, although it looks better on a two-handed weapon

[regal needle]

its a fucking ||katana||

[somber parcel]

||Clearly not everything is gone, as the towers use the same technology. Also, there's a single chest with an Ancient Arrow on the Great Plateau.||

[fiery trail]

||you mean ancient blades ? there are several ways to get those||

[somber parcel]

||Yeah, those||

Unrelated, but..
||The Tarrey Town sidequests are canon, but the chain starts with Link buying a house... Said house is now Zelda's house.||

[mental igloo]

||Local man taxed out of his own home by royalty.||

[fiery trail]

||i don't think you guys get what's happening||

||it's Zelda's house the way Lauren Hashian's house is actually Dwayne Johnson's house||

||what i'm trying to say is Link and Zelda are roomies or more||

what the hell Paya doesn't sleep

[fiery trail]

man ||the Depths are|| so beautiful

[mental igloo]

Anyone know of a good place to get a bunch of giant stone slabs?
I wanna try to make a bunker.

[regal needle]

you dont need bunker

monsters do

[mental igloo]

tell that to ||King Gleeok||

[regal needle]

||oh yeah the thing that tried to kill me while i was trying to do some pic 2 min ago||

[fiery trail]

||most depths armory have those||

man the silver boko horns look like shit

all the other silver horns look extremely cool and then you have uhh clown hat

[strong arrow]

||Spear > Pitchfork > Trident >||

[mental igloo]

turns out ||King Gleeok|| only needed a bit of the goblin glider and a couple of these

[fiery trail]

dude I thought of this idea literally tonight and thought about building such a thing, lo and behold this pic appears in chat

[mental igloo]

i made mine out of the kegs found by the ||Eldest Hinox Brother|| in the ||Calora Lake Cave in Faron||

[fiery trail]

||pooog the hinox brothers are back no way||

[fiery trail]

nintendo really popped off when they let us pay 27 units of currency to summon 9 bomb barrels at will

[mental igloo]

not using all 15 slots

There are a lot more booms to be had

[strong arrow]

Zora storyline is a 10/10, but the ||Mucktorock boss battle|| is so annoying

[regal needle]

i find the botw arc better

[fiery trail]

Just build something that ||spouts water everywhere|| and the fight is actually quite easy haha

[strong arrow]

I just used ||an opal scepter|| and that was the end of it

Homing arrows helped a lot too

[somber parcel]

Synopsis of the 'Regional Phenomena':

Rito: ||Blizzard ||
Zora: ||Pollution ||
Gerudo: ||Sandstorm and Zombies ||
Gorons: ||Yunobo dealing drugs ||

[regal needle]

koroks: ||weed everywhere||

[strong arrow]

I love the game's new take on bullet time, and how it doesn't chew up all of your stamina just to use it, instead opting for only requiring stamina to shoot your bow while in that state

[fiery trail]

No way those exist ???

[fiery trail]

||Everyone says gorons is drugs but to me I saw a phone metaphor somehow
But i guess drugs work too||

[strong arrow]

All it takes is a ||magic scepter|| and fuse ||an opal|| onto it

Helped out a lot after one spin attack

[drowsy cliff]

Might have taken me over a week, but I finally got it...

[somber parcel]

And here I thought I was being creative

[zinc monolith]

When do u think they'll add a creative mode dlc

[sullen widget]

https://youtu.be/DS_sJ3iD2Zk

[tropic fulcrum]

Just saw another duplication method that's a lot easier and more efficient (can get up to +4 of a material)

Shield surf but pause before hitting the ground. Hold a material that you only have 1 of, then hold the material to be duplicated, up to 4. Un-pause, pick up items, rinse and repeat. Works when the duplicated item is less than 4.

Also works on the latest version of the game too

[zinc monolith]

The other method definitely is slow but IDK if I really want to use a duplication method right? Can you duplicate zonite pieces? p

[zinc monolith]

i wonder if this will get patched

[tropic fulcrum]

Probably. I've been testing it out for a bit but I'm still trying to figure out the timing because it's not consistent for me. Been able to get it a couple of times

Seems to work consistently if the first item that's held (single stack) isn't the one at the bottom of the inventory. It'll show up at the bottom after picking it up since it's the first of the stack after picking it up again, but re-sorting the inventory makes it work again with that single item.

[fiery trail]

did they scale back the alcohol quantity in the noble pursuit

[fiery trail]

I wasn't a zelda fan back in 2000, in fact I was barely born

but if you showed me the zelda demo at spaceworld 2000 and then the next zelda game that released after that was wind waker i think i'd be pissed too

it's giving "revealing mario 3d world as the wii u big mario game" energy

[onyx vale]

Skill issue

[fiery trail]

honestly no

i mean wind waker is probably fantastic don't get me wrong

but why.. why even show that spaceworld demo if you're not gonna do anything with it

it feels misleading

borderline false advertising if you ask me

same shit with the zelda wii u demo except well zelda wii u ended up being the best game ever
but imagine if we got the zelda wii u demo but as a full game
that would have been pretty cool as well

[onyx vale]

I feel like the Spaceworld demo was probably born from eventually scrapped ideas

[fiery trail]

mayhaps

[regal needle]

YOU CAN DUPE THEM NOW ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9TDP4qdAUY||

[fiery trail]

why are people spending their time actively trying not to play the game

if you don't wanna ||collect all the bubble frogs|| just don't do it no one is forcing you

[regal needle]

yeah but ||blue magic gear||

[fiery trail]

they've given you a big garden with all the easter eggs hidden within why won't you go and explore the garden instead of trying to shit out more eggs

[sullen widget]

People have fun in different ways

It's not like they're abusing glitches in a multiplayer game so I don't see the issue

[onyx vale]

||Caves|| are such a great addition to this game

Makes the old map so much more fun to explore

[astral orbit]

I can sum up the big missions in TotK pretty easily.

Vague spoilers
||Zora's Domain: I want to hang out with my best bro but work keeps him away. His wife is cool tho.
Death Mountain: Listen up, Goromaniacs! Snap into a Rock Roast! Snap into spice!
Rito Village: The Titanic can't sink if it's flying
Gerudo Village: PlantsChicks vs Zombies||

[onyx vale]

Was hoping this wouldn't be the case in Dutch translation, luckily it's not

||Finley calls Sasan her best friend instead||

[fiery trail]

||yeah that's how it works in the japanese one too||

at least in botw

what the FUCK

spoilers for late game
||why is there gohma in the depths||

||oh woow it even drops something to fuse with loool||

[strong arrow]

If you'd like to know, ||every boss from each of the temples is available for battle in the depths after you've defeated them||

[fiery trail]

||are they in different locations or do they just have one location where they respawn every blood moon or something ?||

[onyx vale]

How are y'all already at late game??

Take your time, man 😭

[fiery trail]

don't worry haha i am

if my playthrough is anything like botw i'll end playing way more after the final boss anyway

botw post game was kinda fun but this game's late game is already way better so i'm guessing the postgame is gonna be crazy

[strong arrow]

||I believe they're in different locations||

[regal needle]

||you can repair your weapons with octoroks at death moutain||

[fiery trail]

though in my defense i gotta say totk's plot urges you to do the main quest way, way more than botw

[regal needle]

differents locations

[fiery trail]

in botw you were like "yeah uh take your time to adjust to that new environment, it's okay, you have amnesia, take your time

[strong arrow]

Just chose to cover all the regional phenomena after spending almost the better part of last week in the depths

[fiery trail]

in totk it's like DUDE YOU GOTTA FIND ZELDA WHERE IS SHE DUDE WHAT IS GOING OOOOOOON

[fiery trail]

that is insanely freaking cool

[onyx vale]

The way I like to play is going towards the main objectives but doing everything I come across along the way, and taking lots of detours

[strong arrow]

||If I continue at this speed I might just end up finishing the game in the next two days, although I've already spoiled the final boss for myself out of sheer curiosity, so that's a bit of a disappointment, but I'm also interested in fighting it||

[fiery trail]

i've yet to spoil the final boss

some asshole did spoil something that happens during it but i still have no real clue like uh how the battle is gonna look like

[regal needle]

||are there like 5 phantom ganon?||

[onyx vale]

I have no idea what to expect from anything late game

So I'm pumped

[fiery trail]

personally i kinda did that but as soon as i discovered the ||dragon tears|| quest i kinda rushed to get them all in order before i got it spoiled to me
and doing that||, due to the context provided after obtaining all of them,|| urged me to finish the phenomenas

[regal needle]

||go in the depths?||

[onyx vale]

Also

Who ||taking a dump|| on Zora's Domain??? 😭

[fiery trail]

oh btw fujibayashi talked briefly about ||the depths|| in a latest interview

I want to talk about ||The Depths, the massive underground region in this game||. ||I feel like I’ve barely dug into it. How did you approach creating that, and what did you want that area to feel like||?

Fujibayashi:|| When you look at the sky, it’s open, it’s bright. When you look at The Depths, it’s a little bit scary, but it’s really about driving this sense of adventure. There’s so many secrets hidden there waiting to be unearthed, treasures and whatnot. It’s really about making sure that we provide an area where players can get really into the spirit of adventuring and exploring. And also as they gain strength, as they become more powerful, they expand their scope of where they can explore.||
https://www.wired.com/story/tears-of-the-kingdom-link-smells-fujibayashi-aonuma-interview/

[strong arrow]

How far is everyone through the game so far? (Please spoiler mark your message with what part of the game you might be spoiling, or just be vague with your words)

[fiery trail]

I have beaten all four phenomenas and have done the subsequent quest Purah gives you

[astral orbit]

I've done 2 of the main missions so far.
My brother has done the other 2 on his own file.
So I feel like I'm done

[fiery trail]

I am now ||investigating the Depths to find clues about Ganon's whereabouts||

gotta note that I somewhat accidentally done the very important main quest of ||finding Mineru|| without even being prompted to do it just by exploring the ||Faron Sky Islands|| the other day because ||they were intriguing to me||

[astral orbit]

I can tell you exactly ||where Ganon is||

https://tenor.com/view/thisisourworld-love-heart-point-me-gif-20607983

[fiery trail]

||I sort of already know where Ganon probably is but i'm roleplaying till Link knows his exact location hehe||

[regal needle]

he is in your heart??????

[onyx vale]

I did the ||Rito|| phenomena, doing the ||Zora|| phenomena right now. I found 4 of the ||hieroglyphs|| and 7 of the ||towers||. In the ||depths||, I've only done the Robbie introductory quest, nothing else.

[fiery trail]

you ought to ||explore the depths more imo, probably the biggest part of the game ||

[onyx vale]

I feel so underprepared, even though I'm most likely overprepared

I'm just feeling hesitant about the unknown

[fiery trail]

||they're actually quite easy, the only real difficulty with the depths is that normal damage is replaced by gloom damage, which you can mitigate with sundelion meals||

[regal needle]

||wait did you unlock the mineru quest on the thunder island?||

[fiery trail]

||that and obscurity but you likely found many brightbloom seed by exploring caves by now ? + the depths reward you heavily with a lot of stuff to make it easier to explore both it and the world above||

[fiery trail]

yep ! ||did everything on accident lol, went to the island, walked blindly towards the shrine by complete accident, then followed Mineru's voice as I found her mask I think ? then it lead me in the depths and everything... that quest was so cool and I was surprised to find it on complete accident, felt really magic and special||

[regal needle]

||tried to do it two times but couldnt see shit||

[fiery trail]

man yeah you're too overpowered in totk

i hope master mode comes along to rock my shit cause i'm steamrolling every enemy

and i haven't even upgraded my armor

[strong arrow]

||Thank you very much for helping me find Mineru||

[regal needle]

also in yigas hideout ||you can find thunder mask||

so the ||thunder island is easier to beat||

[fiery trail]

oh no

uh @strong arrow the intended way is to ||go talk to Paya at Kakariko please do it the intended way it's very fun||

[strong arrow]

I'll go do that to start the quest, once again thank you

[onyx vale]

I really miss cryonis and stasis from time to time lol

[fiery trail]

should I spoil you

[onyx vale]

No

[fiery trail]

okay no i'll give you a hint

[onyx vale]

Don't lol

[fiery trail]

cryonis is still sort of in the game

i'll leave it at that

[onyx vale]

Ooo wait you sparked an idea in me

[fiery trail]

haha i think i know what this idea is

[onyx vale]

Yesss it worked

[fiery trail]

hehe have fun

i'm surprised it wasn't in botw

but i guess because of cryonis

[strong arrow]

I personally like Recall better than stasis, and when combining it with Ultrahand, you can pretty much get a pseudo stasis effect, although you obviously can't attack objects for momentum.

[fiery trail]

i wonder what the decision was for not giving a cooldown on recall

going back to botw with stasis is gonna be rough for the cooldown alone

[onyx vale]

It would be annoying for platforming kinda stuff

[strong arrow]

Removing the cooldown on Recall was an amazing decision in my eyes

Especially when considering how long the cooldown is on Stasis

[fiery trail]

i guess not being able to use it on living things was the balancing

guys what is your favorite horn looks wise

i really really like the silver lizalfos horn

[onyx vale]

Black lizalfos for me

[fiery trail]

but i love the black boss boko too

oh black lizalfos is very cool

[onyx vale]

I was about to mention lmao

[fiery trail]

black boss boko is PEAK

[onyx vale]

The ||boss boko|| ones are great

[fiery trail]

no need to spoiler them they're heavily featured in marketing

[onyx vale]

I'll spoiler anyways

I did not know they existed before landing in Hyrule lmao

[fiery trail]

oh you didn't

i knew they did but didn't know how they worked

love the detail that ||their horn signal different attack formations for the bokoblins||

[onyx vale]

It does? Lmao

[fiery trail]

yeaaah i know they have ||three different horn signals, one that is "hold your shields", and two for different attacks they all perform i think||

[onyx vale]

Moz help I'm too tired for puzzles right now. In the Zora portion, ||I just talked to Sidon after having talked to King Dorephan. I got some of his scales and I have to use these at a fishland or something? Something that connects to the sky kingdom? I found one island with a fish head I could get to via a waterfall but idk if I'm at the right spot. And even if I am, idk what to do now lol||

Wait nvm I get it, I just had to read the inscription again

Couldn't find it for a sec lmao

[fiery trail]

Aw no figuring that one out urself is satisfying I didnt want to give the solution

[astral orbit]

That one took me awhile.

[strong arrow]

Update: I made the same mistake 😂

[mental igloo]

I really like how much ||the depths|| feels like ||an alien planet.||
It feels so forbidden to just be there.

Especially ||Forgotten Foundation.||
The fact that you can see parts of it ||hidden underneath the map of the Depths, while simultaneously being coloured in a much darker hue compared to everything else really sells the feeling of forbidden-ness by just how unfathomably deep underground it is.||

[sullen widget]

The shield-surf dupe glitch is awesome

[zinc monolith]

Big big spoilers
I loved this terry town side quest 😀

[fiery trail]

Yeeeey ||diorama|| friend, it's my favorite quest too

[regal needle]

||how do you remove some of theses?||

[fiery trail]

Im sure putting them outside the stage works

Or yeeting them off a cliff

[regal needle]

i tried but ||kilton said no||

[fiery trail]

Whaaaa

[zinc monolith]

Once you reach the max limit, you put them on the platform again and talk to them and they replace it

[fiery trail]

just realised something
spoiler about some characters
||so wait out of the four sages that Link is friends with, three of them are children||

||okay it's likely that Yunobo is an adult by totk but he absolutely was in his teens in botw||

[regal needle]

||why was the rito a child? it could have been his father||

[fiery trail]

||because Teba replaced Kaneli and has a lot of responsibilities now||

||also Teba doesn't have the secret technique Tulin Tornado||

[zinc monolith]

|| how old is riju? || How old is link?

[regal needle]

120 for link

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I like how there's a greater sense of urgency in Tears of the Kingdom than there was in Breath of the Wild. In Breath of the Wild, the game doesn't really feel like it's pulling you into the tasks at hand, whereas in Tears of the Kingdom, it feels like with every main quest that's been finished, it's almost as if the game is pushing you to keep moving in the direction you're in

Because in Breath of the Wild, it just feels like "oh yeah you can kill Ganon, but you don't have to", whereas in Tears of the Kingdom, it's pretty much saying "okay this is the task at hand, and if you don't feel like doing it right now, then here's some stuff to make you more prepared for the main quest"

What makes it better is that you're actually playing through an active story, rather than just going the 'tell-don't-show' route of the memories in Breath of the Wild

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see it's what i dislike with it personally

cause i feel like i have to rush along with the story

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canonically she's 12 in BotW
Link is... hmm I think he's 17 during the Calamity ?

cause he's allowed on Mount Lanaryu along with Zelda during the Calamity
and only people 17 or above are allowed there

now personally I think totk takes place 5 years after botw for various reasons so that would mean Link is around 123 years old in TotK, or biologically 23 years old