i doubt so
#Mario Kart Klub
burnt spoke
direct trailer says holiday so im thinking probably a december release
wave 3 trailer also said holiday and that released around december iirc so
mint mural
Depends
In the American trailer at least, it says holidays, but holiday could also mean thanksgiving
orchid shadow
'Holidays' is a real vague term TBH
mint mural
True
orchid shadow
Because a lot of countries and cultures have holidays around this time of year
burnt spoke
burnt spoke
same wording for wave 6
it’s definitely possible that it releases before december but i don’t think we’re getting it at least until american thanksgiving
a week or two earlier than wave 3 maybe, but i don’t think it’s gonna be any sooner than that
orchid shadow
So basically 'Typical Pokémon game release time frame'
inland gyro
hmm let me see what the french direct said
orchid shadow
Actually good call
burnt spoke
fiscal year(? not sure if that’s the right term) runs by months and not the earth so this implies december 1 at the earliest
splat3 inkopolis dlc said spring 2023 as the release date and it released March 1st
orchid shadow
I was actually saying earlier this week how weird it is that the year doesn't start in spring, because Summer starts 6 months into a year which feels weirdly late to think about
Like if they wanted to line a year up with the solstices it would make sense, but they didn't so.....
jovial orbit
So basically 'Typical Pokémon game release time frame'
Aren't Pokemon release dates usually very specifically within the last 10 days of November?
jovial orbit
Hm, Hanukkah begins December 7th this year. Weird coincidence.
orchid shadow
Aren't Pokemon release dates usually very specifically within the last 10 days o...
Yeah, since like mid Gen VI
Only exception IIRC has been Legends Arceus
mint mural
Just thinking about it, but it’s crazy that potentially in a little less than a year, this could all just be a memory. The music for courses can be replaced, but the menu music and getting into a race will always stick with me once the game shuts down
trail tartan
What's everyone's favourite Tour track, just to hear some fond memories of the game? Let's hear both a City and a non-City.
I don't play Tour myself. But based on the BCP, I'll go with Athens Dash (Lap 1?) and Yoshi's Island.
mint mural
favorite city is LA 1, i love the beach portion of the track
non city tho is probably piranha plant pipeline
music is great and i love the idea
forest orbit
What's everyone's favourite Tour track, just to hear some fond memories of the g...
I don't play Tour either, so also going off the BCP, I'll say Ninja Hideaway and Athens Dash. Big fan of the wooden piranha plant shortcuts they've got, since you can take them by breaking a plant with a shell as well as just boosting through them.
somber oak
Haven't played Tour, but based on my experience with the BCP:
Fave non-city: Ninja Hideaway
I like that it makes me think when to trick jump and when to drift. Technical, but not overly difficult.
Fave city: Singapore Speedway
For me a perfect balance between big, but not overly complicated.
Honorable mentions to Yoshi's Island and Squeeky Clean Sprint for their themes and visuals.
somber oak
Dishonorable mention to Sky-High Sundae. I made a Custom Stage in anticipation of it, only for the track to not live up to its potential. It's effectively another oval track like Excitebike Arena and while it has plenty of ice cream-themed decorations, it still feels a little empty.
I was disappointed.
mint mural
I'm the minority here when I say I really enjoy SHS
Like it's not a top 20 or anything but I still enjoy it
trail tartan
It's not my least favourite track in the game now...that dishonour goes to Excitebike Arena the more I play on it.
But Sky High Sundae still ranks really low for me personally.
Wanna throw this out BTW...I think Excitebike Arena would be much better simply by adding in more item boxes along the straights.
But that second straight is so dull to race cos only the corners and just after the starting line have them.
Baby Park, in contrast, has items practically everywhere which is it's main claim to fame. And Sky High Sundae has warmed to me more partly because it's item boxes are more frequent too.
trail tartan
TBH, I agree. But simply adding in more item boxes would make it much more tolerable at least.
mint mural
I suppose so
I dont really get why people love it so much tho
Like they make the argument that the jumps change each race
But like
They are still jumps, it's not like anything drastic really changed. Hell I didn't even realize it until I was told it
trail tartan
See, I'd like that gimmick...if it ended up mattering.
But the best route is ALWAYS the same still. Trick, trick, trick...that 2nd straight is so mindless cos that's all you've got to do as well. No item reload partway through leaves you with just the tricks.
mint mural
Yeah that’s very true
I think it would’ve been better if instead of taking a page out of Excitebike, take one out of Excitebike 64
trail tartan
The little random detail on other tracks are much better when they pop up. Moonview as an example having it's booster pads change spot as it could mess a bit with your instinctual racing line...plus Moonview being FAR better as a course in the first place too. lol
mint mural
Moonview is a perfect example
Doesn’t change too much
But just enough where you have to think about your strategy
somber oak
I don't think Sky-High Sundae is a terrible course. Just in terms of expectation versus reality, it's a huge letdown.
Excitebike Arena is less offensive to me, simply because while it's less interesting, it delivers what it promises
shell copper
Can't believe that every single DLC pack Mario Kart 8's ever had has come with an oval track - the Wii U's first DLC pack had Excitebike, the second Baby Park, and the Booster Course Pass Sky-High Sunade.
warped aspen
What's everyone's favourite Tour track, just to hear some fond memories of the g...
Very late to this, but...
City
- Tour: Vancouver Velocity 1
- MK8D: Singapore Speedway
Non-city - Tour: Yoshi's Island
- MK8D: Yoshi's Island (also)
The city course might change, I still haven't finished my rankings on the Tour cities.
karmic tangle
trail tartan
Wave 6 Trailer. Spoilered for a short while.||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-kASUEEXn8||
shell copper
Huh, can't say I expected ||DK Mountain|| or ||Rosalina's Ice World|| at all.
Also, these tracks look quite good visually. Glad to see we're ending on a high note as far as that goes.
trail tartan
I'm pleasantly surprised at ||Rosalina's Ice World being there, as I feel it's got a lot of potential to feel better with halfpipes. PLEASE do that, Nintendo! Also surprised to see Piranha Plant Pipeline NOT make it in. Was sure they were adding all the Tour Originals.||
Oh, and of course...||BOWSER FINALLY HAS ANOTHER CASTLE IN THE GAME!!!! WHOOOOOOO!!!!!!||
shell copper
||Same here as far as the Tour originals go. I guess they recognised that adding two tracks starting with "Piranha Plant" in the same DLC wave might not be the best branding move, especially given that the similarly named Piranha Plant Pipeway is already in the base game.||
trail tartan
||Same here as far as the Tour originals go. I guess they recognised that adding...
||...so similarly named it turns out that I had to correct the name of the track in my dropping of it. lol||
||If I end up liking Madrid and they do what I hope they'll do with Rosalina's Ice World, then I think the Spiny Cup has potential to be my favourite cup in the name when all is said and done, taking the crown from the Fruit Cup.||
daring moss
||Rosalina's Ice World got in it's joever||
trail tartan
Ey, more stuff I came across confirmed! ||The character select screen plus more Mii Outfits coming in...and a jukebox.||
jovial orbit
Ey, more stuff I came across confirmed! ||The character select screen plus more ...
Where'd you find this?
trail tartan
NintendoLife article I viewed the trailer at (Cos directly on Youtube hates my adblocker. lol) also highlights a tweet showcasing these.
jovial orbit
Huh, can't say I expected ||DK Mountain|| or ||Rosalina's Ice World|| at all.
Al...
It's weird to me ||seeing DK Mountain finally rendered in a different style||
trail tartan
Yeah, embed seems to just...not work out for me in general. Tried "twitter.com" too elsewhere and it didn't work.
peak kiln
vxtwitter
jovial orbit
Found it on the Japanese site, glad ||the formatting for the Mii costume select screen is getting changed.||
trail tartan
||I like that Pauline is alongside the DK additions. Keeps the overal vibe of the bottom row kinda complete with Inkling and Villager's genders getting stacked now.||
jovial orbit
Oh yeah, that image does reveal that...
||The reunion is upon us||
inland gyro
Ibli are you finally happy
it's so weird why the fuck are daisy circuit and rosalina ice world here
it should have been uhh fuckin pirahna plant pipeline and a better track than daisy circuit
jovial orbit
If you were to rename Daisy Circuit, what would it be?
trail tartan
Ibli are you finally happy
jovial orbit
I wouldn't go for Sunset, since Sunset Wilds.
Daisy's Downtown? Eh, it has alliteration but I'm not feeling it.
Daisy Square? Better, I guess.
jovial orbit
Also, I wasn't wrong in my guess that it would release before American Thanksgiving.
lusty citrus
Welp...it's surely been a journey
Tbh i am happy with the full on wave 6 track selection, and with the bcp track selection in general
The fact they actually managed to fit more than half mario tracks into one of these games is incredible
lusty citrus
Ey, more stuff I came across confirmed! ||The character select screen plus more ...
||JUKEBOX?!?!||
||i love this game||
trail tartan
I have a hunch that Wave 6 might feel a bit like Wave 4 in terms of quality for me, where my least favourite track is a Circuit and I still like it a fair bit.
I don't expect to like revisiting Daisy Circuit as much as I liked revisiting DS Mario Circuit honestly, but still.
lusty citrus
Lol, mood
Tbh no one wanted ds mc in but i still think it's a decent fun track to play on
I just wish they made the wiggler appear earlier tho that would actually make thw wiggler a real obstacle
trail tartan
I did TBH. If any Mario Circuit were on the table, DS was my pick.
Granted, I'd have liked some other DS tracks more...but still.
lusty citrus
||tbh wii rr was expected but it looks AMAZING, way better than the tour version too||
trail tartan
Song sounds on point too. :D
lusty citrus
||REALLY||
||and well, i am also excited for madrid because i have an aunt that actually lives there and apparently it's one of the more interesting city tracks too||
||tour gameplay didn't make me like rome that much tho, i hope 8dx changes that for me||
trail tartan
The City tracks, I've not got an expectation on yet. Been that way since Wave 4 had three I adored and Wave 5 had Athens to wow me. Those, I'm basically in blind.
But the rest they revealed? ||Wii Rainbow Road and DK Mountain as easily going to be solid tracks, I think Rosalina's Ice World could feel a lot better with some of 8's stuff and...finally, a Retro Bowser Castle!||
||Daisy Circuit...is there too but I suspect I'll feel more positive to it after revisiting it. And like the City tracks, got no expectation on Piranha Plant Cove.||
lusty citrus
||dkm is always a blast to race around and it was an obcious classic they were going to bring back lol, can't way to see how it works wit 8's more sticky physics||
||rosalina's ice world though is...well, it was a very mid track in 7 so i hope they add more onto it in 8 deluxe||
||and daisy circuit is a track i always wanted in the game lol, idc what people think about it being a circuit in the last wave or whatever cuz for me it's a really goated track||
trail tartan
||and daisy circuit is a track i always wanted in the game lol, idc what people ...
||Got nothing to do with it being a Circuit to me. Again, I was happy to see DS Mario Circuit on it's own merit. I just don't gel as heavily in Daisy Circuit personally.||
lusty citrus
Fair
trail tartan
Going to make a prediction for my favourite track in each cup BTW, cos I wanna.
Acorn Cup: ||Going out on a hunch and saying Piranha Plant Cove'll surprise me heavily.||
Spiny Cup: ||Wii Rainbow Road...but SNES Bowser Castle will put up a strong fight.||
lusty citrus
||must feel nice not havingbto avoid leaks anymore huh||
trail tartan
||Oh god yeah, lol.||
lusty citrus
||knew you'd say that lmao||
small shard
So yeah, the booster course shall ve complete soon
surreal bridge
Cool picks overall, knew another nitro (Piranha Plant Pipeline) was gonna be replaced for variety haha
Now another surprise update is if they give Sunset Wilds the Animal Crossing treatment and add a night time variant to kinda save this course
karmic tangle
piranha plant pipeline... piranha plant slide
sky high sundae... sweet sweet canyon
sky garden... cloudtop cruise
snes mario track... snes mario track
There's def some better tracks they coulda picked but like, i feel like we've got so much content
Amazing there's 5 peachs in the game 💀 cuz kind bob omb woulda be lit
jovial orbit
Nabbit would be a steal
shell copper
He can't use items either; he just turns them into coins.
karmic tangle
that'd actually be an interesting trade off
shell copper
He'd just be the ultimate front-running character; can't get screwed over by items, is always at max coins lest he falls off the track. Might struggle to catch up if he falls behind due to lack of items, but would be very hard to catch if he breaks away.
...mildly fitting, considering his original role in New Super Mario Bros. U?
mint mural
piranha plant pipeline... piranha plant slide
sky high sundae... sweet sweet ca...
At this point I'm expecting ||the remaining Mii racing suits to be characters that didn't get into base game, ala King Bomb Omb, Nabbit, Hammer Bro, etc. or characters that have their Mii suit debut with an Amiibo, like Waluigi
karmic tangle
I saw a castle one, that's all i needed to see to become a mii main
somber oak
I want the Nabbit Mii Costume to ease the pain of his exclusion. I really like the Goomba and Fishbone costumes too, so I hope those make it in as well.
With the addition of new Mii Racing Suits, my gut's telling me the Gold Mii Racing Suit is going to be a reward for getting gold on all BCP cups.
jovial orbit
At this point I'm expecting ||the remaining Mii racing suits to be characters th...
On the Japanese article, they've revealed ||11|| of the suits plus one from added Daisy amiibo support (||I don't know if this counts as one of the 17 new Mii suits, because the part mentioning it says "in addition"||). They are ||Toadette, Chain Chomp, Dolphin, Dry Bowser, Cheep Cheep, Pokey, Biddy Buggy, Birdo, Petey, ? Block, and Castle.|| I don't know if the post has more in text, since the translation might be off (I wish I didn't have to use Google Translate) but it specifically mentions ||a Toad suit (probably a mistranslation of Toadette since Toad is already an amiibo suit) and a Pukupuku suit (Google says its Cheep Cheep)||.
inland gyro
why are inkling boy and villager girl gone
i hate this bring them back
"they're just costumes" they're fucking not they have different stats !!!
it's like putting cat peach behind tanooki mario
mint mural
Why does Funky Kong look so damn happy
trail tartan
They had different stats in vanilla 8 too. So...deal with it.
mint mural
What he so happy about
inland gyro
They had different stats in vanilla 8 too. So...deal with it.
i will not
shell copper
Rekt.
mint mural
why are inkling boy and villager girl gone
I love these new Mii suits
They are so silly and goofy
shell copper
The Dry Bowser one's caught my eye, if only because I used the Bowser amiibo suit back when I mained my Mii.
mint mural
Unironically more excited for the Mii suits and Jukebox mode than I am for the tracks / characters
shell copper
Also mildly interested in the ||Castle one, since it's sort-of-not-really like this Luigi Castle I drew once.||
orchid shadow
Hahaha what does that mean?
shell copper
I have no idea, but since I drew it alongside a Chad Mario, my sister has decided that it's an insult.
orchid shadow
I could probably build that Luigi in Minecraft
shell copper
...blimey, never thought about that possibility, but you're probably right.
karmic tangle
inkling boy and girl really had different stats on wiiu? 
trail tartan
Well, I meant the Villagers. But sure, let's go with that somehow. 
shell copper
||I KNEW SHE WAS EVIL||
trail tartan
Should we bother with the spoiler tagging now, actually? Been a fair few posts now that aren't tagged showing stuff now.
shell copper
Hm, fair. And the trailer has been out for half a day now, so most of the people who're likely to care know by now. They'll just've to learn of SNES Bowser Castle 3 by force.
trail tartan
So...the tracks not in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe from mainline games are as follows, I think. Not including Tour's RMX ones.
karmic tangle
inkling boy hiding
jovial orbit
I want the Nabbit Mii Costume to ease the pain of his exclusion. I really like t...
We live in tragedy
somber oak
Glad the Goomba Suit made it in and the Blooper Suit is alright, but c'mon...
The freakin' Ice Cream Suit from that Sky-High Sundae Tour made it in before Nabbit!?
karmic tangle
Lame!
Tbh I don't understand why someone would wear a costume of a character that's already in the game 😂 they do that and smash too, I don't get it
jovial orbit
Link's suit is a totally new style, what are you talking about?
mint mural
So...the tracks not in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe from mainline games are as follows, I...
I feel kinda bad for Piranha Plant Pipeline. Forever to be tainted within Mario Kart Tour as the only nitro to not be brought over to 8DX
jovial orbit
Maybe it'll be in Mario Kart whichever number is next
mint mural
Hopefully, it was a really fun track
forest orbit
We live in tragedy
Wait, is that a Para-biddybug outfit?
Huzzah, another character* you can put on a vehicle fashioned after themselves!
jovial orbit
Wait, is that a Para-biddybug outfit?
Huzzah, another character* you can put on ...
Koopa Clown Suit and Wiggler again but a suit
forest orbit
Ooh, those too.
warped aspen
We live in tragedy
Pfft they just took a stock goomba image and pasted it onto the Mii
trail tartan
Fun fact. If we had gotten N64 Bowser's Castle, then we'd have had the entire Lightning Cup from Mario Kart Wii in 8 Deluxe.
Even in it's retros, the game gets close to a complete cup in!
Also one off the Leaf Cup from 7, missing DK Pass.
jovial orbit
Also one off the Leaf Cup from 7, missing DK Pass.
I think I'd pass on that...
forest orbit
Even in it's retros, the game gets close to a complete cup in!
Actually, we are going to achieve that with a Wii cup - specifically the Star Cup. Daisy Circuit's coming in Wave 6, Koopa Cape and Maple Treeway were present in prior waves, and Grumble Volcano in the base game.
trail tartan
Actually, we *are* going to achieve that with a Wii cup - specifically the Star ...
I'm aware of that. Just find it funny how close Wii got to also getting a Retro Cup in too.
forest orbit
Fair.
orchid shadow
Ah yes, DK Pass....depression in the form of a race track
timid shadow
I know this discussion is a little dead but I'm perfectly fine with Inkling Boy and Villager Girl erasure, glad even
I don't like looking at them. My eyes can rest easy now
Oh sure "they have different stats" but I like being annoying and complaining about Inklings so I take this as a win also geez that DK Minecraft gif keeps flashing in my eyes dear God especially when Funky Kong is on screen
eternal violet
bros got a PhD in no fun
mint mural
I have no idea if im just going insane or not, but I swear in the first notes right before the main melody starts, it sounds like the startup of MK DS’s title theme. Could be that they are the same instruments, but maybe it’s just me
orchid shadow
Will say, ever so slightly gutted that MKDS's Rainbow Road didn't return
mint mural
Was kinda hoping for GBA, but Wii is still cool
Probably just the Super Circuit fan in me
somber oak
I'm not a fan of Super Circuit, but would've loved to see GBA Rainbow Road, because of how they'd handle the ramps on the edges of the road. I imagine most of the track being a halfpipe. Also Bowser's Castle from Paper Mario in the background.
I don't mind Wii Rainbow Road, but it doesn't look very interesting to me, especially compared to 3DS Rainbow Road. Wii Rainbow Road looks clean, but that's about it. (Still better than MK8's own Rainbow Road though.)
timid shadow
bros got a PhD in no fun
You know it
inland gyro
the amount of mk7 and mkwii tracks in mk8 is insane
lusty citrus
Cool picks overall, knew another nitro (Piranha Plant Pipeline) was gonna be rep...
THEY FREAKING BETTER
lusty citrus
"they're just costumes" they're fucking not they have different stats !!!
To be fair, villager girl already used to be a villager alt anyways in wii u
lusty citrus
Also mildly interested in the ||Castle one, since it's sort-of-not-really like t...
THE LUIGI CASTLE
I am so going to save that
lusty citrus
I'm not a fan of Super Circuit, but would've loved to see GBA Rainbow Road, beca...
I just hope they, yknow
Actually try remaking it next mario kart
trail tartan
I'm not a fan of Super Circuit, but would've loved to see GBA Rainbow Road, beca...
I actually think most of the track border would instead be normal Trick Ramps rather than halfpipes myself. If the border is made up of those, then you can do some of the crazy antics of GBA Rainbow Road still in such a remake. While halfpipes would mostly keep you to that part of the track.
somber oak
I actually think most of the track border would instead be normal Trick Ramps ra...
That's kind of what I meant. Didn't know how to best explain it, but the idea is that the entire track is shaped like a halfpipe, but trimmed down so you can hop over gaps in certain places. I do think there should be some elevation here and there to prevent insanely big cuts. Perhaps some areas could have the quarterpipe mechanic to mix it up.
trail tartan
That makes sense now, yeah. Throw in a couple of glider ramps too just cos. lol
shell copper
That's kind of what I meant. Didn't know how to best explain it, but the idea is...
Entire track as a half-pipe... isn't that the premise behind some of Sonic's bonus stages?
somber oak
Kinda, though my mind was moreso at White Land II from F-Zero X
shell copper
Ah, yep, that sounds more sensible than the Sonic bonus stage my mind jumped to.
orchid shadow
You know, people talk about adding other Nintendo franchises to Mario Kart, seen as we've got Zelda, Animal Crossing and Splatoon in, I've heard a few people mention Pokémon as a contender. Consider this.
Mew
And it's trademark vehicle
shell copper
Make Mew unlockable, obtained by knocking a vehicle upwards using a Super Horn, Star or equivalent and having the vehicle land on top of you. You'd be under the truck, and hence Mew.
somber oak
This somehow reminds me of the GBA version of Crash Nitro Kart, where in order to unlock Fake Crash, you'd have to go "out of bounds" on Out of Time by driving through a small gap in the wall and finding him camping in the middle of nowhere.
Imagine going off the beaten path on one of Mario Kart's tracks and suddenly finding a new character, like perhaps one at Peach's Castle on Royal Raceway if you could still go there.
trail tartan
I do wish they'd still managed to keep that easter egg in 8.
Doesn't affect actual racing on the track, obviously. And I guess they didn't have an easy paste from something like 64 this time to get it to us easily either. But would've been a nice touch.
somber oak
I imagine they didn't want it to disrupt the flow of the race, especially online. It's a shame, but not a huge loss or anything.
trail tartan
Let's have a little fun here. Say we got one more cup, rounding the track count to 100. What four not in the game would you pick to be the tracks and what would your cup be called?
For my Boo Mushroom cup, you'll get Mario Raceway, Piranha Plant Pipeline, Luigi's Mansion and GCN Bowser's Castle.
As badly as I want Toad's Factory...Wii got enough love.
trail tartan
So...the tracks not in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe from mainline games are as follows, I...
Assuming I got this right, here's a reminder of tracks that won't be in 8 Deluxe.
orchid shadow
Let's have a little fun here. Say we got one more cup, rounding the track count ...
Mushroom Bridge, Toad's Factory, Shy Guy Bazaar and NDS Rainbow Road
As for cup name......uh...not actually sure TBH
trail tartan
Mushroom Bridge, Toad's Factory, Shy Guy Bazaar and NDS Rainbow Road
I considered Shy Guy Bazaar too myself.
mint mural
Let's have a little fun here. Say we got one more cup, rounding the track count ...
Red Star Cup
GCN Mushroom Bridge
GBA Yoshi Desert
3DS Wario Shipyard
Tour Piranha Plant Pipeline
4 of my favorite tracks, all appearing in Tour 🙂
trail tartan
Wario Shipyard was also on my mind.
My last three were set in stone, but I really felt like putting a 64 track in the more I thought about it.
mint mural
Honestly any 3 of these combinations could work as a final cup for me
Red Star Cup
GCN Mushroom Bridge
GBA Yoshi Desert
3DS Wario Shipyard
Tour Piranha Plant Pipeline
Ice Flower Cup
N64 Koopa Troopa Beach
GBA Lakeside Park
Tour Piranha Plant Pipeline
3DS Bowsers Castle
Blooper Cup
Wii Dry Dry Ruins
Tour Piranha Plant Pipeline
DS Airship Fortress
GBA Rainbow Road
trail tartan
I like the sound of that Ice Flower cup, though I find the title funny given there is a volcano and a Bowser Castle in it. 
daring moss
Let's have a little fun here. Say we got one more cup, rounding the track count ...
Gex Cup:
N64 Koopa Troopa Beach
GCN Mushroom City
the real Sky Garden SNES Mario Circuit 4
3DS Wuhu Loop
I was gonna have Shy Guy Bazzar but I didn't want to double up on games
also Wii has enough tracks in 8 but I really want Toad's Factory to get into the next game
burnt spoke
well i had a great one before the wave 6 trailer
it was the 4 missing RRs as a rainbow cup
trail tartan
I was gonna have Shy Guy Bazzar but I didn't want to double up on games
Is why I didn't got for Airship Fortress too myself. Had my sights lock entirely on Luigi's Mansion.
daring moss
wait I forgot about airship fortress
crap uh replace Koopa Troopa Beach with Airship Fortress on mine
somber oak
Extra Cup (icon is a 1-up Mushroom)
Tour Pirahna Plant Pipeline
DS Luigi's Mansion
3DS Maka Wuhu/Wuhu Mountain Loop
GBA Bowser's Castle 4
I would love to have DS Airship Fortress, but it would be too similar in theming to GBA Bowser's Castle 4, which I had to include because of the massive overhaul in Tour. Another one I want, but didn't make the line-up is 3DS Shy Guy Bazaar.
This for me really puts in perspective that despite feeling there are some tracks still missing, it isn't actually that many with how much content the Booster Course Pass delivers.
inland gyro
yo wait crap the fuckin
the uh the tracks release in fuckin uhhhh 6 hours ???
who's down to discover all the tracks as a group ? i'm down personally
shell copper
I'd be interested in doing so, but I generally don't like staying up past 1AM; if someone winds up hosting a room immediately, then I'll likely tag along for a few races, but probably won't stay long enough to see all the tracks. I'll more likely experience them by myself later, likely in 200cc because that's totally a good way to get your first impressions.
inland gyro
yeah 1 am does sting
man peeky we should meet someday while i'm in the UK that'd be fun
shell copper
Trust cowardice to impede any such plans; aside from the school bus, I'ven't ever actually used public transport by myself.
inland gyro
i mean i'd be down to visit wherever you live if that's a problem
I want to visit as much of the UK as possible anyway
shell copper
How the heck would I explain that to my household?
"Here is the Frenchman from the internet; he has come to visit."
inland gyro
lool no but we can hang out in the city no need to bring me to your house lol
unless you don't live in a city oops
shell copper
Suburbs at best.
daring moss
I'd be willing to join
shell copper
What track'll people be most likely to vote for/play first? I'll probably go with SNES Bowser Castle 3; I'm happy to see another Bowser Castle in the game, so I've got high hopes for it. And its music.
trail tartan
I'd be willing to join
You talking about joining in with Mario Kart or with Moz and Peeky IRL?
I'm down for trying the tracks first time later. 1am doesn't bother me as I'm a night owl with nothing going on currently anyway.
trail tartan
What track'll people be most likely to vote for/play first? I'll probably go wit...
I'm likely to just go in order.
Bowser's Castle is the one I'm most excited for, though I get the vibe that Piranha Plant Cove'll be a sleeper hit with me too. But if I go solo, it's usually 150cc cup I try them in first.
Then 200cc. Then Mirror Mode where I give the AI a head start.
daring moss
You talking about joining in with Mario Kart or with Moz and Peeky IRL? <:Snicke...
idk whichever one is easier
inland gyro
I'm down for trying the tracks first time later. 1am doesn't bother me as I'm a ...
dope
so ibli and jiggs then and potentially peeky
daring moss
I can't make it mario kart hates my school's wifi sorry :(
jovial orbit
What's that in EST?
burnt spoke
i think 2 hours
maybe 3 idk how daylight saving time works
all i know is updates usually drop at 8 EST
jovial orbit
Well it goes back an hour when it ends, so I presume you mean 8 EDT, if that's the proper label.
So like 7.
inland gyro
What's that in EST?
in 2 hours and 15 minutes
trail tartan
Going to do a few races on my favourite and least favourite tracks per wave.
Get back into a Mario Kart vibe and out of my F-Zero vibe. lol
...there had better be a 96 option added to VS with this update...
inland gyro
...there had better be a 96 option added to VS with this update...
knowing nintendo there's a 50% chance it gets added
mario kart devs are wild they're full of surprise
orchid shadow
So is the update out or we still waiting?
shell copper
Pretty sure it releases at 1AM. Or about 20 minutes.
jovial orbit
Hopefully that's correct
inland gyro
So is the update out or we still waiting?
it releases in 3 minutes
orchid shadow
Ah
trail tartan
Just finished my bit of racing pre-update.
inland gyro
or more accurately it starts rolling out in 3 minutes
it'll take more to actually reach your switch
trail tartan
Yeah, it's not actually going to be here in 3 minutes for sure. lol
jovial orbit
Woo, friendless room id
shell copper
Wait, they're nerfing item bagging!
jovial orbit
Also broader amiibo support (aside from Daisy)
trail tartan
BAD, VERY BAD, STOP DOING THAT
I'm actually fine with that. Item sniping is still a thing presumably, just not as big a thing.
inland gyro
they keep wanting to turn mk8 into mktour
trail tartan
Downloading.
inland gyro
where if you go on a item box that just got taken you still take it
dumb, stupid
DOWNLOADING
trail tartan
I see nothing about 96 race option for VS there though. :(
trail tartan
Oh, my download is going at a crawl.
shell copper
Just started the download myself.
shell copper
No need; my wait is over.
inland gyro
if you can peeky, create a room
shell copper
...never mind, the update's still installing after downloading.
inland gyro
haha
shell copper
That's what I get for gloating.
trail tartan
...BOOOOOOO!!!!! No 96 race option confirmed. <_<
shell copper
Now I'm in.
Hah, the new music menu mangles the track selection UI to flip between base game, BCP tracks, and battle courses. That's pretty funny.
So is the fact it pretends that DS Wario Stadium and DS Waluigi Pinball use different songs.
jovial orbit
I'm still trying to download it, the internet isn't great.
shell copper
Aw, are the room IDs randomly generated? No relying on MAR10 to always be a hosted room.
jovial orbit
33 minutes 
inland gyro
33 minutes <:Catcry:594719924862058506>
oh nooo i'm so sorry i think we'll start without you..
jovial orbit
Nah, I wasn't particularly expecting to join, with the internet being poor as I mentioned.
It's down to 22 for a sense of how ridiculous it is though.
inland gyro
should we start @shell copper
shell copper
I'd say yes.
odd lava
Ya?
shell copper
That's one way to summon someone.
odd lava
Did I make a mistake?
odd lava
Oh ok
inland gyro
man Diddy and Pauline share their kart colors with Mario it suuuuuucks
why do they have blue colors on their kart
stupid
FUNKY AND PAULINE ARE TRANS
@errant cedar hey we're discussing in here
shell copper
I swear at God, it's taking us so long to start, I managed to boot up and finish a race in Mario Kart DS while we were waiting.
||To be fair, it was SNES Mario Circuit 1, but still.||
inland gyro
I swear at God, it's taking us so long to start, I managed to boot up and finish...
will only has a few minutes to wait
they're coming
ok so as a reminder we go in order, from the first track of the new wave to the last one
so like, pick... i think it's the madrid track first rome track
shell copper
Rome was last wave, you clown.
inland gyro
Rome was last wave, you clown.
no
shell copper
I muddled Rome with Athens. I'm the clown.
inland gyro
@odd lava you almost done?
errant cedar
inland gyro
let's wait one more minute
shell copper
I do not have all night to wait, Moz.
trail tartan
Speak for yourself. I have all night. lol
inland gyro
pick rome avanti
shell copper
Funky Kong's got a weeeeeeird horn.
errant cedar
Gg
inland gyro
@odd lava room ID is 8 G C 8 H
shell copper
Did you pull off that one ending cut from Mario Kart Wii at the end, Iblitazer?
inland gyro
yeah he did two times
errant cedar
Mama mia
shell copper
Huh! I just instictively thought those fences were blocking it off.
shell copper
Yep, that was pretty darn good.
orchid shadow
Woo yeah my Switch is 35% updating! Only 2 hours left to go!
inland gyro
i'm gonna wait until 56
jovial orbit
Internet isn't happy, gonna try one more time
shell copper
Torn between DK Mountain and Piranha Plant Cove myself; think I'll need to play both a bit more to decide which I prefer.
inland gyro
Torn between DK Mountain and Piranha Plant Cove myself; think I'll need to play ...
same
jovial orbit
Nope, it refuses once again. Hope you guys have fun with the DLC.
inland gyro
sorry :/
inland gyro
madrid moment
errant cedar
Pov speedrun
inland gyro
us very soon
mint mural
Ok so like, slight and I mean very slight spoilers for Wave 6
||The BCP credits are actually amazing. So glad they gave the Tour tracks a chance to shine with their music. Plus the LA Laps mix is what I live for now||
inland gyro
@past fox come discuss here!!
errant cedar
FIFA
inland gyro
FIFA
shell copper
Diddy's horn is a higher pitched version of DK's. That's pretty funny, I like that.
shell copper
Also there are people in Voice Channel A, if you're interested in a vocal rattle.
inland gyro
someone didn't get the memo
mint mural
I’ll join but I ain’t gonna talk if that’s ok
timid shadow
I think I'm just gonna play on my own tonight, thanks for the invite though, ggs to all and to all a good night
shell copper
I’ll join but I ain’t gonna talk if that’s ok
Ah, you're just like me!
orchid shadow
Just found out WHY my Switch is taking so long to update
inland gyro
that was nice
shell copper
Yep, pretty good track.
past fox
Ayo whoever finished then threw those red shells behind them, screw you
inland gyro
wasnt meeee
shell copper
Bowser Castle time.
past fox
Ayooo
trail tartan
That would be me Gem. lol
trail tartan
Not getting ME with the revenge shell, Gem. lol
shell copper
Pfffft.
inland gyro
shell copper
Hah!
inland gyro
HAHAHAHAHA
inland gyro
alright now pick whichever track you want
yeah i will we just had not a lot of people
past fox
I'm tryna fight yall not them bots
shell copper
I'll be scarpering off now; bit late for me to continue playing. Fun times, and a good wave. Fare thee well.
inland gyro
the bots are on normal
trail tartan
Good races. :D
mint mural
Yo is the room still up?
mint mural
I’ll join up
past fox
Yo is the room still up?
You yo
inland gyro
go ahead
past fox
🤝
past fox
Zero I think but I'd start since we don't know his ETA
inland gyro
right
mint mural
Up
inland gyro
down
mint mural
All around
inland gyro
so ibli won without using items
mint mural
Can you do the gap cut Shroom less?
inland gyro
just so you know
past fox
Ayo @inland gyro we got beef now
trail tartan
Yeah, been doing the gap cut shroomless every lap.
mint mural
Lmao
past fox
That is sick though, shroomless cuts on 150cc ?
mint mural
R.I.P Piranha Plant Pipeline
past fox
Damn these maps got tech hour 1 💀
mint mural
Bros gonna beat the shit out of you Moz
inland gyro
i'd like to see you try
mint mural
You can on the snow up above in this one, it’s kinda jank
inland gyro
ggggggggggggggggg
mint mural
Anyone wearing a turtle shell is automatically cringe
past fox
Ayo can we talk about that Goomba head ass though
trail tartan
...I'm just racing. I dunno nothing about no beef. lol
past fox
past fox
That's what I'm sayin
mint mural
Goofy goomba
past fox
Mad cringe for REAL HUH
mint mural
My b
inland gyro
i'm simply superior
mint mural
I fucked myself over
inland gyro
also peachette is the cutest character in the game
trail tartan
I dunno about that, Moz. I was only 3 points behind when refusing to use items. :P
inland gyro
i'll start not using items
mint mural
See ya gem
past fox
All jokes btw
mint mural
We have beef now btw
trail tartan
Good games, Gem. :D
inland gyro
ggs gem ! sorry bout the shells
trail tartan
I'm not. :P
past fox
But the games cringe for not giving me infinite bullet bills won't cap on god on god fr fr no kizzie no wizzie
inland gyro
who left?
trail tartan
I did. lol
inland gyro
you cheeky lilttle
mint mural
Peepee poopoo land
mint mural
Gaslighting at its finest
somber finch
Final Wave was fun, but there are a few tracks that were very iffy.
mint mural
Elaborate?
keen ice
Good Afternoon Gentlemen
somber finch
The third track of the DLC had this wall you could run into going around the first turn. Hit it twice in three laps.
If it's the same track with the raised sidewalks, yeah was a little unorthodox to play on.
mint mural
I can see that
inland gyro
Good Afternoon Gentlemen
keen ice
heads up I have not played any of the new courses.
mint mural
Hype
inland gyro
i picked it again
keen ice
also I am using a new Pro Controller since my old one is broken.
somber finch
I was impressed with both Bowser Castle 3 and Wii Rainbow Road though, probably the highlight of the wave.
mint mural
Erm it’s BOWSER castle
somber finch
Rome and Madrid were fun too, but the most unique was probably Piranha Plant Cove, never seen a Mario Kart track like that one.
mint mural
Man shut yo ass up I was right behind you
inland gyro
ngl i'm getting tired
keen ice
Well that was pretty fun 😄
inland gyro
i'll close the room after these races
no spoiler but apparently doing the grand prix mode on the new tracks gives new credits with a new medley
and a new "congratulations" screen
mint mural
If anyone else wants to race I’d set up a room afterwards
jovial orbit
no spoiler but apparently doing the grand prix mode on the new tracks gives new ...
||Yoshi's Dice Game||
Dammit Luigi
inland gyro
***I got kicked…***
oh no
mint mural
Damn
inland gyro
yeahhh closing sorry folks
trail tartan
That was some great races. :D
keen ice
what is going on with my College Wi-Fi?
trail tartan
I'm done for now.
keen ice
I’ll try to join.
trail tartan
What all was everyone's favourite tracks?
keen ice
right after I played the rest of the tracks.
trail tartan
Mine was...going with Piranha Plant Cove.
trail tartan
Will say again - that's one of the chummiest sessions I've had of 8 Deluxe. Really good games to all I raced with there.
And I leave you with a reminder that ensured domination of one track for me. Gap Cut is real on DK Mountain. lol
trail tartan
Final Wave was fun, but there are a few tracks that were very iffy.
I personally found this to be my favourite wave. They ended on a big high note for me.
Daisy Circuit is alright. Nothing special, but I'm fine with that overall. The rest, I really loved racing through for many different reasons.
somber finch
What all was everyone's favourite tracks?
Bowser Castle 3, Rome, Piranha Plant Cove, DK Mountain, and Wii Rainbow Road. As fun as Piranha Plant Cove was, it's also really long, but the atmosphere felt like a Crash Team Racing track in a Mario Kart game.
trail tartan
Am ESPECIALLY happy to see Half Pipes on Rosalina Ice World!
trail tartan
Bowser Castle 3, Rome, Piranha Plant Cove, DK Mountain, and Wii Rainbow Road. A...
Oh, that's a good way to describe Piranha Plant Cove...
somber finch
If Crash Team Racing had underwater that is.
orchid shadow
Can we have the guy who put the wooden fence up in DK Mountain arrested?
trail tartan
Why? I leapfrogged it with ease. lol
somber finch
Wooden fence?
inland gyro
BIG SPOILERS for the NEW congratulations screen you get after beating the last few cups
this is a SPOILER
if you'd rather discover this yourself, do NOT click this SPOILER
orchid shadow
Why? I leapfrogged it with ease. lol
I flew over it, the game went 'No' and bounced me off of an invisible wall and caused me to fall
trail tartan
...wierd. I only failed it my first try, not getting far enough. Every other time, I got over it without issue. No wall blocking me...and I didn't go the same angle every time.
Moz can confirm I did so.
somber finch
I had more problems with boulders than fences.
orchid shadow
> Hits the fence
> Falls
> Levitates on level geometry
What.
trail tartan
Bro you are high on life rn
Going to borrow this description of me for the future.
inland gyro
nice picture
man what a fucking game
96 tracks
a billion characters
96 * 2 with mirror mode btw
192 tracks what the fuck
trail tartan
I don't personally count Mirror Mode as it just flips left or right. If we had reverse variants, though...
That said, the point doesn't change. Still bonkers. lol
Something I actually like upon reflection too is that there are some bangers not in 8 Deluxe...which means the next game still has Retros it can draw people back with really well IMO.
I know Toad's Factory or another Bowser's Castle will have me flock back like a sheep.
Even players who don’t own the Booster Course Pass can listen to the background music of the DLC courses.
jovial orbit
Man I hope the next game has Wuhu Island and it doesn't fade into obscurity.
trail tartan
I didn't notice that in the patch notes. That's nice of them!
orchid shadow
Quite liking the underwater temple track
orchid shadow
Ok wow that Bowser Castle was a LOT better than I expected
lusty citrus
Tbh rome was pretty weak for me, and i definitely don't think it was a bad city but smth about it just doesn't make it stand out to me
MADRID tho, madrid is a banger city track
Loved that shiz
orchid shadow
Madrid was a lot better than I anticipated. Definitely top 3 city tracks for me right now
Wait hold up, is Rome the first time Mario has been shown in Italy?
jovial orbit
I don't know, but Luigi probably goes to Italy in Mario is missing
eternal violet
why play on the new maps when I could be playing boo lake
daring moss
so true
orchid shadow
If you don't Akira slide over the finish line, did you even finish?
mint mural
Honestly, the BCP has been one of the greatest things to come out of the MK franchise
It came at a time when there was a drought of a new game (minus Tours content) and effectively made an already awesome game 2x as good
And honestly, the Booster Course Pass, with the fact that I’m going to be starting a new chapter in my life, feels like a perfect way to encapsulate the last 18 years of my life into a nice bow that I’ll be able to carry with me wherever I go.
Thank you BCP, thank you MK8DX, and thank you Nintendo
eternal violet
I wish the pass had less city tour tracks
Half of them feel kinda same-y and the non-city tour tracks are really good
Should've made more original tracks !! (and add airship fortress)
lusty citrus
Personally
I really fucking hate it when people say the city tracks are samey
I do get when people say there's a ton of them tho, they cover a big part of the pass lol
I'm just very happy with how this dlc resulted, they added a ton of really cool tracks and characters into the game and i am very happy about it
eternal violet
Tour fans when a track with the same theme and same buildings as half of the other tour tracks gets added
I get it they have different layouts
But like you have to admit that most of them have parts where they look extremely similar
It's like if they added 5 bowsers castles
lusty citrus
Here we fucking go again
I am just going to ignore you
I've been through these sorts of arguments wayyy too many times
eternal violet
You should probably work on not getting angry easily because debates are cool and awesome when they aren't arguments
lusty citrus
Okay..?
trail tartan
The first three waves, I will say the city tracks were overall eh to me. Loved Sydney and I did like Paris, but the other four I just found meh to race on personally.
The last three waves absolutely do not have that problem though IMO.
Athens is one of my favourite tracks and Madrid is the best example of a City track feeling like a genuine tour to me.
lusty citrus
The first three waves, I will say the city tracks were overall eh to me. Loved S...
Yeah
Tokyo was like, city track circuit
New york and paris were also pretty damn mid, and london is like, the worst city track imo
Altough i do think berlin and sydney were pretty decent
THE WAVES 4-6 CITY TRACKS THOUGH
THOSE SLAP
trail tartan
Nintendo should have brought back All Cup Tour
I'd have settled for a 96 race option in VS...but we didn't get that either...
daring moss
Carson the GOAT updated his mario kart tier list with the wave 6 tracks https://tiermaker.com/create/mario-kart-series---track-ranking-1242308
orchid shadow
I really fucking hate it when people say the city tracks are samey
About maybe 2-3 of them feel same-y at most
The biggest disappointment of the city tracks is the fact the London one doesn't have chavs you can run over
lusty citrus
The biggest disappointment of the city tracks is the fact the London one doesn't...
In general, london is a horrible track
It has literally nothing in it
It's really really long and it drags way too much
Not even the music is that good, it's like rock rock mountain's but worse
orchid shadow
Not even Toads wearing royal guard hats, that would've been funny
warped aspen
Carson the GOAT updated his mario kart tier list with the wave 6 tracks https://...
Yep! Made sure to get that ready well in advance!
And (for now) the tier list is complete!
lusty citrus
IT WOULD HAVE
lusty citrus
Carson the GOAT updated his mario kart tier list with the wave 6 tracks https://...
Oh yeah thanks carson for making this list i've had it on my clipboard for a while now
warped aspen
No prob 
lusty citrus
Smth i find interesting about the new update is how apparently they nerfed bagging
Didn't expect them to do that but i appreciate it
orchid shadow
Might play through every track on Time Trial to get a good judgement of the placement of each
trail tartan
I'll wait til I play the tracks on 150cc and 200cc grand prixes before ranking them all.
My IRL buddies haven't played the tracks yet as they were sensible and slept, so can get their first impressions too.
jovial orbit
New york and paris were also pretty damn mid, and london is like, the worst city...
I wonder if it has anything to do with when they were created...
London though is an odd one.
orchid shadow
Like I said, I don't get to run over a pack of chavs, preferrably loitering around a bus stop like they tend to do
inland gyro
dude so glad rainbow road wii is the longest track in the game now
jovial orbit
So you know how I was struggling with the internet last night? The WiFi has decided to stop existing this morning.
inland gyro
sandbaggers are complaining the patch ruined the meta
ok and you ruined the game for everyone else i think it's fair game
i have no respect for you if you sandbag
get fucked
inland gyro
So you know how I was struggling with the internet last night? The WiFi has deci...
oh no :(
trail tartan
sandbaggers are complaining the patch ruined the meta
Yeah, I'm not mourning their lost meta either.
inland gyro
they're saying it ruins competitive 6v6
cause in 6v6 some of them will bag to get a lightning to give the others an advantage
but like that's lame stop doing that
you can still have fun in your little 6v6 meta without bagging
just play the game idk
jovial orbit
'Meta' vs Fun
Some people find a sick pleasure in messing with others.
Not fun to deal with
eternal violet
but like that's lame stop doing that
what
they made a team mode that actually doesn't promote everyone bagging
only one per team is usually all you would want
If anything they were the good ones
inland gyro
donkey kong is a weeping angel https://vxtwitter.com/EndsFunnies/status/1722455499894083646?s=20
daring moss
I did it
all 284 tracks
ranked
finally
Ok imma sleep or something idk I'm tired
trail tartan
Doing my Grand Prix runs now. 150cc 3-Stared by Adeleine and Eggman.
Big Classic Sonic vibes from these credits for me.
karmic tangle
kalamari in A! tierlist ruined!
trail tartan
And...Mirror done. All 3 Stars acquired!
somber oak
With these new characters, I did not think I'd be more drawn to the Mii Race Suits. Totally fell in love with the ?-Block and Dolphin suits.
Also got 3 stars on every cup on every class and beaten all 150cc Staff Ghosts. (I won't bother with the 200cc Staff Ghosts, but I did beat all of the base game and the first half of the BCP)
Now to enjoy the reward
Bragging rights
somber finch
So if I was any racer other than Yoshi, it would probably be Diddy since they're similar. Same with Toad.
jovial orbit
Bragging rights
RIP Gold Mii Suit theory
shell copper
Here I was, hoping for a Golden Standard Bike. Alas, I'll just have to pursue these bragging rights myself later; just got the 150cc and Mirror Acorn and Spiny cups to tackle.
somber oak
I'd have taken a Golden Pipe Frame, or perhaps one of the golden character skins from Tour (preferably Gold Dry Bowser)
trail tartan
I'm not too fussed about no reward for doing all the DLC, though a Mii costume would have been nice since I think it's going to have one empty space post Daisy Amiibo use.
Also, not done the time trials yet. Will give that a whirl another time.
OK, going to give these tracks attempts backwards. I expect that I'll manage...one. Daisy Circuit.
Don't think I'll manage to do the others.
somber oak
I'm fine with no rewards. The end credits are enough of a reward for completing all the BCP Cups
The greedy, spoiled brat in me just can't resist wanting just a little bit more
trail tartan
Rosalina's Ice World ended a lot earlier than I expected it too backwards.
somber finch
It is one of the shorter tracks in Wave 6.
trail tartan
No, that's not what I meant.
Going backwards, I could do one turn, but not the gap following it.
I expected to not climb up to the halfpipes instead.
somber finch
The shortest track in Wave 6 is either Rome or Bowser Castle 3 SNES.
somber oak
You won't even get to turn on BC3 backwards
trail tartan
SNES Bowser Castle 3, on the other hand, ended exactly where I expected...right behind the finish line, yeah. lol
I can't get onto the split path for Wii Rainbow Road...but I do think that actually might be possible to do by a better player...
I mean...the track as a whole won't be, but I do think someone can get further than I did.
daring moss
I feel like playing a previous Mario Kart game which one should I play
I’ve played too much 8 recently
trail tartan
You should play Wii. I feel like it get neglected and often forgetten among Mario Karters.
||...cannot believe I managed to keep a straight face typing that. lol||
daring moss
Underrated gem
shell copper
DS is often my go-to when I feel like playing a non-8 Mario Kart, likely because it's the quickest and easiest for me to set up.
trail tartan
...wait, did Mii Costumes...always have a trick pose inspired by the character the outfit is based on?
Just used the Petey outfit and noticed my Mii trying to float in the air by flapping his arms like Petey does...
shell copper
Pretty sure that's only a thing for the just-added DLC costumes.
mint mural
Tour had a few of those trick animations
Not sure about the character specific ones tho
shell copper
From what little I've seen, several of Tour's Mii costumes did have custom trick animations based off the character the costume depicted. Quite likely that they were the basis for these animations we see in 8 Deluxe.
lusty citrus
They do
trail tartan
Ok, got a ranking for ya since my IRL buddies wanted to do so and pestered me til I joined in. 
1: Piranha Plant Cove
2: Bowser Castle 3 and DK Mountain
3: Rainbow Road
4: Madrid Drive
5: Rosalina Ice World
6: Rome Avanti
7: Daisy Circuit
daring moss
Idk if this is a hot take or a take at all but 8 has the weakest karts in the series
8 doesn’t have the
Like
soul creativity of the other games
shell copper
Not really familiar with Double Dash's or Tour's, so can't speak on them, but I definitely see where you're coming from - many of 8's definitely feel more generic than the mild insanity of DS' karts and the character-coloured karts of Wii, though I'm somewhat inclined to argue that 7's are weaker still, even with its few cool ones like the Growlster and Tiny Tug.
...yeah, 7's are absolutely weaker - 8's definitely got more cool ones than 7.
shell copper
Won't deny that - the Growlster is absolutely one I'd raise if we're discussing 7's best kart options.
inland gyro
Idk if this is a hot take or a take at all but 8 has the weakest karts in the se...
oh yeah deffo
lusty citrus
To be honest, i'm not really sure...
I like a lot of 8's karts but i can see how they can be called the weakest karts
I mainly blame it on how the cars are customizable tho so they probably try to play it safer with how they are designed
Tbh a lot of double dash's karts just look plain ugly lol
It's mainly cuz of how they are trying to fit 2 chsracters in a car but a lot of them look ridiculous
DS on the other hand does have a lot of cool looking karts, my personal favorites being the good ol dry bomber and waluigi's bigass crane
shell copper
Imagine the Dry Bomber with Monster tires. It'd probably need at least a bit of a redesign to facilitate it, given the treads it actually has, but it'd probably look funny.
lusty citrus
Imagine the Dry Bomber with Monster tires. It'd probably need at least a bit of ...
Yea that would be funny looking
Who knows why nibtendo doesn't wanna bring back T A N K S to mario kart anymore tho
Tbh tho ds does have a handful of basic looking karts tho mainly because of the limitations of the console
But i also love the ones that are literally just "egg" or "dry bones head"
shell copper
The Dry Bones Head is honestly a personal favourite of mine. Shocking that Dry Bones ended up with two of the game's best karts.
lusty citrus
Why does dry bones get all the badass cars
Lmfao
We should move to wii's karts and well
Wii's karts are really sick
shell copper
Especially because they've all got unique colours for each character.
lusty citrus
I mean yeah, 8 deluxe also has a lot of karts that do change color depending on the character, but they don't change color as much as wii's
shell copper
And only the Standard vehicles change colour for every character (ignoring the BCP DLC characters, who just reuse existing characters' colours) - others like the City Tripper do change colour, but only have a small handful of colour variants comparaed to the complete colour changes for every character in Wii.
lusty citrus
Yeah exactly
Also i didn't know the bcp characters didn't have original colors for their vehicles
They really did a good job for theirs
shell copper
Eh, I feel it's a bit more hit-and-miss - Kamek and Wigger reusing Lakitu and Daisy's kart colours fits perfectly for them, whereas Petey using Luigi's feels more than a little unfitting to me.
lusty citrus
Fair i suppose
Man, wii really went wild with the inwards, the inwards in there are amazing
8dx's also look cool but they just cannot top wii's
I wish the mach bike and wario bike returned
shell copper
When I was younger, I wasn't even aware that inside drifting vehicles were the best, but I still mained the Bullet Bike; t'was just that cool looking.
The Wario Bike's also a pretty cool one, both in general and because it's a reference to another series; I'd also like to see it return.
lusty citrus
I feel a reason why wii's vehicles look so cool is also because it came out in one nintendo's best eras
Mario kart 8 came out in that time when mario games weren't really trying to do a lot of new things
So like, i feel that definitely had an impact on how the vehicles looked
jovial orbit
Tour wins because of the need to encourage microtransactions.
mint mural
Nah tour wins because it has based karts
jovial orbit
Burger kart
forest orbit
The Bus.
mint mural
Sunset Cloud Kart
jovial orbit
Frankfurter
mint mural
Kameks bike
inland gyro
this goes hard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvBZ4yqZlsw
warped aspen
Now that Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has finished its content, I've come up with a concept for a new Mario Kart entry! This took a while, so I would appreciate it if anyone has the time to look at it:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1BYA8rLW-jC8qM1CT8xxrEPLOFK8ixC14lYNi27rxzF8/edit?usp=sharing
daring moss
Now that Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has finished its content, I've come up with a conce...
Aahhh this is so cool
trail tartan
In a Mario Kart mood. Anyone else up for some racing in about a couple of hours?
somber finch
Hopefully, I didn't technically get to race last time. The room was full.
trail tartan
Hopefully, I didn't technically get to race last time. The room was full.
Will be a little late in getting started as I've got something to sort out, but will save you a spot.
daring moss
Mario Kart Super Circuit is good y'all just don't know how to adjust from the modern titles
somber finch
Not me, I started on Super Mario Kart.
daring moss
no you didn't
somber finch
Wanna bet?
somber finch
I played Super Mario Kart when I was like five years old, then Mario Kart 64 later.
trail tartan
DS was my first one, but I do like Super Circuit a fair bit. Am awful at that, but still like it regardless.
somber finch
Never played that.
trail tartan
Am not a fan of Super Mario Kart though. Can't be swayed it's way.
daring moss
Super Mario Kart more like Super poo poo Kart
orchid shadow
I think either DS or Wii was my first
somber finch
Super Circuit is the only Mario Kart I've never played besides Tour.
daring moss
You should play super circuit its fun 
trail tartan
I've played all the console ones and one of the Arcade ones. Technically, I've played Tour too...but not for anywhere near long enough to count it.
somber finch
Can't find it in stores.
daring moss
I think either DS or Wii was my first
same 
daring moss
Can't find it in stores.
It's on NSO expansion pass
if you think the price is too much
then
somber finch
Don't have that.
daring moss
somber finch
Poor Patchy got cancelled.
orchid shadow
Speaking of Mario Kart SNES, anybody else really just like the bassline from Rainbow Road for no reason?
daring moss
daring moss
Mods crush his skull thank you
somber finch
SNES mk and GBA mk are 💩
You haven't asked to play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe in a long time.
mint mural
SNES mk and GBA mk are 💩
oooo dont test me tev
i am this close to snapping over super circuit disrespect
karmic tangle
It controls weird
mint mural
its slippery but its easier to control then the snes one
mint mural
Hate to bring this up since I love GBA Sky Garden even with its renovations, but exclusively in the Tour version lies light blue flowers all along the edge of this path and on the other side
I only bring this up because typically when going into an Anti Gravity section, there are light blue things edging the course
Meaning that potentially at one point in development for the BCP, GBA Sky Gardens final few turns could've been reworked into AG
daring moss
GBA sky garden tour version
I wish there was an anti grav section would have been in there it would have been neat
mint mural
<:krabsAngry:868265414881320981> GBA sky garden tour version
I brought this on myself, as it’s a very controversial track, but I fucking love it so much
orchid shadow
Honestly the Sky Garden discourse is one of the most unreal things I've seen in regards to Mario Kart
inland gyro
it's a decent track but it's not sky garden not in the slightest
nothing about the layout reminds me of sky garden
orchid shadow
nothing about the layout reminds me of sky garden
It has elevation now
daring moss
Honestly the Sky Garden discourse is one of the most unreal things I've seen in ...
I think the sunset wilds discourse is worse
Most people are focused on the sky box and not the actual track (it also plays nothing like the og but no one talks about that)
mint mural
Sunset Wilds discourse is worse
While yes, the sun setting in the original was cool
It's not how you should determine if a track is good or not
Besides, the sun is still techinically set so the name Sunset Wilds still holds value
inland gyro
people who want sunset wilds with the sun setting don't understand how gamedev works
but also why did they even bring this track back if they couldn't do it justice
dummies
shell copper
The really weird thing is that the Tour version of the track did have the time of day change to night at a set time during the race. So frankly, no, there's no excuse for the 8 Deluxe version to be lacking it.
inland gyro
yes, there IS
mk8d doesn't have dynamic skyboxes
for whatever reason the mobile game does
jovial orbit
Eh, I've heard stuff about the lighting engine potentially being problematic in that regard
Still silly bringing it back without being able to do the main memorable part.
jovial orbit
for whatever reason the mobile game does
Isn't it on Unity or something?
inland gyro
probably maybe??
inland gyro
truuuuuuue
mint mural
But I still love Sunset Wilds
daring moss
Played 7 again and man I missed 7’s glider controls
You actually control the glider instead of just watching your kart slowly fall towards the ground like in 8 what?!?!
Mario called me the best ☺️☺️☺️
karmic tangle
Agreed , that was great in 7
There should be more to do in the air tbh
Mid air bananas or something
Like u need to avoid them
inland gyro
Played 7 again and man I missed 7’s glider controls
Hell yeah preaaach
Best mario kart
daring moss
My hot take of the day: I don’t think Sunshine Airport is very good. It’s layout is as good as a Mario circuit, it doesn’t do much with its airport theming, and I think it’s just a weaker version of coconut mall.
shell copper
My only strong opinions regarding it is that I like the boxes on the conveyor belts, and I don't like the fact that in-game sound effects get so dramatically quieter when a plane passes overhead.
mint mural
i think its supposed to replicate what everything sounds like when you are in the air, and then when gliding back down, your ears pop and you can finally hear again
shell copper
I get that they're trying to reference that, yes. Doesn't stop it from being annoying, and the music being entirely unaffected dampens the effect (but to be fair, the music also getting drowned out would probably be even more annoying).
inland gyro
My hot take of the day: I don’t think Sunshine Airport is very good. It’s layout...
yeah no it's not good
most of the mk8 tracks suck if we're being honest...
mint mural
where is this slander of mk8 tracks coming from?
trail tartan
most of the mk8 tracks suck if we're being honest...
Can't say I agree. Sure, some are meh. But I like most of them for racing on myself.
daring moss
where is this slander of mk8 tracks coming from?
MK7 nostalgia is coming… MK8 bad…
trail tartan
Off the top of my head, I can only name 4 I don't like. Water Park, 8's Mario Circuit, Twisted Mansion and 8's Rainbow Road.
daring moss
Yeah most of 8 tracks are good
trail tartan
Bone Dry Dunes has grown on me, as it used to be in the dislike bunch too.
daring moss
It’s still one of the weakest nitro tracks in 8
trail tartan
Yeah, it's still in the lower bunch.
But it's no longer in "sucks" for me at least.
Oh, Excitebike Arena sucks too. 5 tracks.
daring moss
Toads turnpike
trail tartan
8's Rainbow Road deserves a little note too as I feel that track is MUCH better at 200cc for how difficult it becomes.
mint mural
The only courses I really don't like in terms of nitros is Ice Ice Outpost, Excitebike Arena, Wild Woods, and Dragon Driftway
So basically just the 8 DLC nitros
mint mural
Wild Woods hater <a:_death:815942946901459005>
Woz said it best: "It's like a lesser Maple Treeway"
somber finch
Yeah, that's the only one I don't like also. Ice Ice Outpost. Of all tracks to represent Rosalina, it had to be that one 
mint mural
You sure you arnet thinking of Rosalinas Ice World?
somber finch
That one
mint mural
I kinda mess with Rosalinas Ice World ngl
trail tartan
Yeah, that's not Ice Ice Outpost.
mint mural
It's grown on me
trail tartan
Woz said it best: "It's like a lesser Maple Treeway"
That's an odd comparison. Guessing it's solely because they both involve climbing a tree, but I adore both tracks.
And they feel nothing alike to me.
somber finch
There's so many tracks, I need a reminder of what Ice Ice Outpost is.
mint mural
There's so many tracks, I need a reminder of what Ice Ice Outpost is.
This stupid ass track
https://youtu.be/yLNPJi5ntw0?si=CJA2Y5bN1xjTLswV
somber finch
Explains why I don't remember it.
But there have been worse tracks in Mario Kart history.
mint mural
now that i think about it, some tracks i dont like might purely be because of online and random versus races
ive played ice ice outpost more times than i can count
somber finch
Not sure what they were thinking when they made that Wario Shipyard track.
somber finch
Boo Lake Mario Kart 8 Deluxe ☠️
mint mural
boo lake in 8dx is also a great track imo
awesome glowup from its original counterpart on gba
somber finch
Super Circuit Boo Lake managed to not be a Super Mario Kart Ghost Valley somehow.
mint mural
that is a very good thing
somber finch
But with everything that's been discussed, I'm surprised nobody mentioned Donut Plains for bad tracks. They took the worst Donut Plains and put in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
There are much better versions of that track they could've used.
And I'm going to diss my track Mario Circuit 3 from Super Mario Kart. That's not the best Mario Circuit from Super Mario Kart either.
trail tartan
To be fair, the discussion was on 8's Nitro's to start with.
somber finch
Though, after we finally have all the tracks in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, I can finally name my favorite track in the game.
Of all the tracks that were added in the Booster Course Pass, Yoshi's Island is easily my favorite in the game.
mint mural
my predictions for Mario Kart 10s retro tracks (i bumped up the cup count to 24 to make everything fair
SNES: 2, N64: 2, GBA: 3, GCN: 3, DS: 2, Wii: 2, 3DS: 2, Wii U: 3, Tour: 3, NS: 2)
Shell Cup:
Wii Luigi Circuit
GCN Peach Beach
Tour London Loop
3DS Shy Guy Bazaar
Banana Cup:
SNES Choco Island 1
Wii U Sunshine Airport
GBA Yoshi Desert
Wii Toads Factory
Leaf Cup:
DS DK Pass
GCN Mushroom City
NS Squeaky Clean Sprint
SNES Bowser Castle 2
Bell Cup:
Tour Berlin Byways
N64 Frappe Snowland
NS Yoshi's Island
3DS Wario's Shipyard / Galleon
Spiny Cup:
Wii U Thwomp Ruins
N64 Wario Stadium
GBA Lakeside Park
DS Airship Fortress
Lighting Cup:
Tour Piranha Plant Pipeline
Wii U Dragon Driftway
GCN Bowser's Castle
GBA Rainbow Road
i tried keeping level variety (themes, times of day, etc.) a priority while also bringing back favorites (Airship Fortress, Wario Stadium, etc.) and giving every game a fair distribution
mint mural
realistically looking at this, i couldve moved yoshis island to where gba lakeside park is
daring moss
Only thing I would change is the Wii U picks. I'd probably do Toad Harbor and Mount Wario instead of thwomp ruins and sunshine airport
mint mural
i get that
i was getting low on retros tho with unqiue themes
didnt want to have 3 winter themed courses
daring moss
yea thats fair
Maybe swap Wario Stadium and Toad's Factory? Toad's Factory is an easy track and doesn't feel like it should be late game
eternal violet
omg airship fortress haiiiiiii :3
daring moss
mint mural
Maybe swap Wario Stadium and Toad's Factory? Toad's Factory is an easy track and...
Actually that works out completely fine
somber finch
Wario Stadium Mario Kart 64 is definitely an interesting prediction, would've never seen that track in another Mario Kart game since it's not very popular.
mint mural
It's the last retro from that game tho
Shroom Ridge wasn't popular in DS, but it's in 8DX
It's not about popularity cause there will always be courses with less popularity but when trying to create a prediction list, courses like Wario Stadium have to be added
somber finch
And Wario Stadium would need to be created one to one or it wouldn't be the same. Not being able to jump that first wall on the left means racing the whole track.
mint mural
Lol yeah no
They could add a little reference to that glitch
Kinda similar to what they did with Choco Mt in MKT / 8DX
Or at least what I'm assuming is a reference to the Choco Mountain cut
somber finch
It's technically not a glitch since you are just jumping over to the other side.
I sadly can't do that for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe N64 Rainbow Road since it's not even the same track.
mint mural
It's technically not a glitch since you are just jumping over to the other side.
I mean yes and no
It is a glitch cause it was an unintentional design by the developers
Well it is
Cause it glitches the checkpoint system thing
mint mural
I sadly can't do that for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe N64 Rainbow Road since it's not ev...
15+ years later is what it gets you
somber finch
daring moss
completely legit
somber finch
Flying Luigi
daring moss
100% real
