Mario Kart Klub

[lusty citrus]

I guess being cool is kind of a given so yeah that's valid

[slate obsidian]

Brush up on your video game history bruh

[lusty citrus]

Sorry i never heard how did gyromite save the video game industry

[eternal violet]

I hope they keep a couple of the crossover characters in the next mario kart game, being able to play as an inkling is so cool

[somber finch]

I'm not entirely sure why people want Steve in Mario Kart. If Nintendo wanted him in Mario Kart, he would've been in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe at launch.

[slate obsidian]

Nobody does

[eternal violet]

wdym steve is in DS

[slate obsidian]

Where did you hear people wanted Steve in Mario Kart?

[somber finch]

It was kind of implied if they're trying to mod him into the games.

[slate obsidian]

Ok, so in 1983, the video game industry crashed due to shit quality games flooding the market, so people stopped buying video games because they didn't trust that they'd be quality, but Nintendo revived the industry by bundling the NES with R.O.B. and saying "this isn't a game system, it's a toy"

[slate obsidian]

People mod EVERYTHING into games nowadays

[eternal violet]

I don't think people want kermit in smash

[slate obsidian]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a Kermit the Frog mod for one of the Mario Kart games. That doesn't necessarily mean people want Kermit in Mario Kart officially.

[lusty citrus]

Oh

I knew all that but i never knew rob had a part on it

[slate obsidian]

Yeah. He's the one that got the NES in homes initially, and then when people played Super Mario Bros., they loved it, and word spread that the game was awesome, which made people learn to love gaming again, which revitalized the industry. All because R.O.B. was used as a trojan horse.

And Nintendo KNEW R.O.B. would stop being played with once people realized how awesome Mario was, so yes, R.O.B. was forgotten about, but he kinda needed to be forgotten about so that people would start playing Super Mario Bros.

[lusty citrus]

Now i get why nintendo references him so much

But nowadays he's kind of in a shadow

Like...rob appeared in mkds, and also appeared in smash brawl

But after that all he's been appearing on is like smash

and he had a wario ware gold description

[slate obsidian]

Yeah, R.O.B.'s WAY more important than you initially thought. He literally saved an entire continent from swearing off video games for life.

[lusty citrus]

He's still not getting added to mario kart though lmao

[somber finch]

While this was true in the 1980s, people might abandon games if something doesn't eventually happen to correct the "only for profit" video games that are plaguing the modern game industry. Quality has started to take second place once more as the Atari nightmare comes back to life in the modern age.

Only this time, it's with PlayStation and Xbox.

[lusty citrus]

Yeah...nintendo games are generally more high quality (aside of like pokemon games and the first waves of the bcp) than the tons and tons of games that come out on ps and xbox, but people don't seem to mind this for some reason

[somber finch]

Nintendo would end up being the only company left besides Steam to still produce quality games, which is kind of sad when you think about it.

[lusty citrus]

Besides steam ???

Steam's got some really weird games on it lmao

[lusty citrus]

It's not like if people stop buying ps4 and xbox games anyway, specifically the better ones

I am not expert on those though

[somber finch]

Xbox would need a success with Starfield in order for it to rebound, otherwise, its basically dying out due to lack of big titles. PlayStation will fare slightly better since it has endless amounts of games to work with. This more like if things aren't working out by like 2030, then maybe the video game industry would die, but that's just a theory.

[lusty citrus]

Doesn't the ps5 have like

A really little amount of original games that aren't on the ps4

[lusty citrus]

I doubt it will but i get what you're trying to say

[somber finch]

PlayStation 5 would only be saved by new games, not the previous generations. It didn't implement backwards compatibility.

[karmic tangle]

I didn't know speci talked seriously to people

[woeful stump]

too intimate

[jovial orbit]

The appropriate response is "with your mom", right?

[karmic tangle]

I only talk seriously to people at inappropriate times... To amuse myself 😔

[slate obsidian]

I figured out all the vehicle combinations for the CPU DLC characters!

Birdo:

Standard Kart / Standard /Super Glider, Mach 8 / Slim / Super Glider, Standard Bike / Slim / Super Glider, Wild Wiggler / Standard / Flower Glider

Petey Piranha:

Standard Kart / Monster / Super Glider, Circuit Special / Standard / Super Glider, Badwagon / Off-Road / Super Glider, Flame Rider / Monster / Super Glider

Wiggler:

Standard Kart / Standard / Super Glider, Steel Driver / Metal / Parafoil, Standard Bike / Standard / Super Glider, Standard ATV / Off-Road / Super Glider

Kamek:

Landship / Wood / Super Glider, Koopa Clown / Standard / Super Glider, Standard Bike / Standard / Super Glider, Standard ATV / Standard / Super Glider

[jovial orbit]

Someone probably already did, but good for you.

[slate obsidian]

The other builds can be found here in this Reddit thread by some deleted user: https://www.reddit.com/r/mariokart/comments/d406ac/mk8dx_i_made_a_list_of_all_cpu_combinations/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2

And here's an updated version I made: https://www.reddit.com/r/mariokart/comments/1571k7v/mk8dx_i_made_a_list_of_all_cpu_combinations/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1

[lusty citrus]

Coolio

[inland gyro]

yeah uh it's already on the wiki, it's been on the wiki since probably release day lol

[slate obsidian]

Tbf, I was the one who added some of it to the wiki lol

Specifically Wiggler's stuff

[lusty citrus]

Woah that's cool

Also i made some cups out of the in game random track system and, dang

That's an unhealthy ammount of rainbow roads

[keen ice]

If we are still doing the fan made Mario Kart Roster, here is my ideal roster then

[lusty citrus]

It's alright

I'll never understand why do so many people want e-gadd in the game though, i get he's from a spin off but why him specifically??

[keen ice]

I think its because people want to see more of the character. Kinda like Pauline is in the Spin off games

Plus (even tho We aren't gonna get new karts) His Kart can be an Upgraded version of the Poltergust 4000 from MKDS

[somber finch]

I keep my expectations for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe characters more realistic and just go with the ones most likely to be added. I'm glad they added Kamek, Petey Piranha, and Wiggler. Those could've been in Mario Kart since Super Mario Kart if they really wanted.

[jovial orbit]

I mean, only Wiggler existed by that time.
Kamek was famously intended for MK64 a year after his debut in Yoshi's Island (but obviously wasn't added), while Petey did get into MKDD a year after his debut in Sunshine.

[woeful stump]

egadd is one of the funnier mario characters

luigis mansion is a great game

his voice clips would be very funny in mario kart

youre front running comfortably, dodging bananas, blocking reds

then you hear it. right behind you.

"yabbo yabbo"

you are now in 12th place

[orchid shadow]

Don't forget his iconic phrase 'Lemon bar!'

[woeful stump]

you are now in 13th place

[karmic tangle]

Lemon bar?

[keen ice]

I find it kinda hilarious how people theorize that E.Gadd was gonna be some Disney Twist Villain.

[slate obsidian]

https://youtu.be/f8n0AwsVaIE?si=yyxiQuAbCp5uRpO_

[inland gyro]

oh cool

[daring moss]

Nuh uh

[light patrol]

Wiggler in S is based but I otherwise refrain from commenting

[karmic tangle]

idk

it's not my list

u know id have my homeboy wario up there

[azure mist]

Is blue light weight or mid weight?

Or is this just for characters and not statwise

[jovial orbit]

Clearly characters, Metals share stats yet one is B and one is D.

[karmic tangle]

idk

[keen ice]

https://twitter.com/TKOWL_Art/status/1685736969374932992?s=20 you know if we do get another Guest Character

Ryan's Art Account (@TKOWL_Art)

Hey Nintendo, if you want to add just one more non-Mario character to Mario Kart 8 I got an idea right here

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[urban musk]

That doesn't look like Kirby at all

[karmic tangle]

yes please olimar

[mint mural]

That ain't spongebob

[lusty citrus]

Link?

[lusty citrus]

This server's full of top tier comedians

But i'll give you this one

[karmic tangle]

#discuss-games message

[azure mist]

Hmmm

[woeful stump]

Hmmmario

[keen ice]

Da Mario

[azure mist]

[daring moss]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mariokart/comments/15ib28h/made_a_mockup_mk_select_screen/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=4&utm_term=1

[karmic tangle]

rn im thinking of my one friend that takes 5 minutes to pick his character

this will take him about 2 hours

[daring moss]

Discuss this roster

Who takes 5 minutes to pick a character

Go for the one you like

Tell your one friend that

[karmic tangle]

no isabelle inkling or link?
nope u need noki mg2 monkey and sprixie and ghost lady from luigi mansion

[somber oak]

Metal Mario and Gold Mario, who have different stats from Mario, are put in as alts for Mario, but Gooigi and Cosmic Rosalina get their own slots?

[daring moss]

I really don’t know

Roster padding

[shell copper]

That's the problem. There are several I like.

[daring moss]

Just pick one ez

[shell copper]

Slight problem; there are several I like.

[daring moss]

You can pick the others you like another day

[shell copper]

But which do I choose now?

[daring moss]

Go off of vibes

Or roll a dice

[somber oak]

I'd pick Nabbit. Easy.

[karmic tangle]

there's too many d-tier characters in there imo
and the interface is over designed

[daring moss]

Bro really thinks anyone at Nintendo other than Sakurai cares about Earthbound

[karmic tangle]

oh ya, it's unrealistic as all heck but

why are there even captain syrup fans like

is that her name

[somber oak]

I like Captain Syrup

[shell copper]

My three biggest questions are why Zelda is there but not Link, why R.O.B isn't considered a guest, and why when people add characters from Wario's two series, they always go with the women - give my boy Jimmy T. some spotlight.

[somber oak]

I'd prioritize dozens of Mario characters over her though

[karmic tangle]

and i like speedy eggbert

[somber oak]

Just give me Nabbit and I'm set

[karmic tangle]

nabbit is cool

[somber oak]

And if I don't get Nabbit, I always have Dry Bones.

Wait, there's Syrup, but no Tatanga?

Trash roster

[eternal violet]

they did not just replace inkling for little mac

[karmic tangle]

zelda but no link

[trail tartan]

Last I checked, R.O.B isn't a Mario character. Shouldn't it be under guests?

[karmic tangle]

raymond 💀
olimar is based tho

ya i guess cuz rob was in mk DS but def not a mario char

[mint mural]

While the UI and presentation is very very nice, I don't think anyone
A. Want like a chunk of these guys,
B. Too many options can be overwhelming

The roster of this felt like just picking out a bunch of randos just to say, "look at these characters that Nintendo won't add!" and you know why? because they are boring af and filler tbh

[trail tartan]

Also, good luck getting Pikachu when games like Mario Maker had issues using the IP initially and some like Woolly World just couldn't at all.

[azure mist]

Even though they had amiibo costumes.

[trail tartan]

For real though, Mario Kart getting a roster THAT big isn't really appealing to me.

[azure mist]

Super Mario Kart Ultimate

[trail tartan]

Especially with picks like a Noki over stuff like Tatanga or Fawful.

[somber oak]

The size itself isn't the problem. It's really the unrealistic "let's fulfill every wish possible" approach, acting as if Nintendo isn't willing or is too lazy to make a roster that big.

And it's biased, of course.

[mint mural]

Unless it's like LM, Yoshi or DK, I don't really like the idea of having M&L or Paper Mario characters in MK

They don't fit the MK vibe imo and should stay in their respective series'

[trail tartan]

I kinda disagree tbh. I do feel the size is an issue there. Goes very overboard.

[azure mist]

LM?

[mint mural]

Luigis Mansion

[daring moss]

Linguines managing

[azure mist]

Also, if they want a roster this big, then they should just do a Smash Bros Ultimate kart game

[daring moss]

Mansion

[trail tartan]

I'd agree...if third parties weren't now getting in too.

[daring moss]

Wait I just realized all of the rabbits from oddeyssy are here

Wtf

Why all of them

[azure mist]

They should just be grouped in one slot

So should the koopalings

Akin to Yoshi but they all have different stats ofc

[daring moss]

No I just don’t like the rabbits

[azure mist]

Fair

[daring moss]

Also the fan favorite character Cosmic Rosalina is here yippee

[trail tartan]

Oh, and as for this being a Mario Kart Ultimate? Paratroopa's missing. Not Everyone Is Here!

[azure mist]

Could be an alt

[trail tartan]

Not if Cosmic Rosalina gets a slot, nah...

[azure mist]

Yeah thats just padding lol

[timid shadow]

Why is noki not by pianta that's odd

It must be by weight?

[trail tartan]

Also spotting Mallow and Geno. So yeah, I see no reason to exclude M&L characters.

Paper Mario, I guess has bringing his art style over well...but beyond that, meh to excluding his stuff too.

[azure mist]

Bean queen

[somber oak]

Add Ms. Mowz. Lil' Mousers deserve some justice after being robbed in the MK8 remake of Cheese Land.

[trail tartan]

Make SNES Mario Circuit 1 a playable racer...somehow.

[somber oak]

Iron Checkpoint Crate ?-block

[trail tartan]

That crate's the best racer I've ever seen added to a racing game.

[somber oak]

The TNT-Crate, Nitro-Crate and Purple !-Crate alts are the cherry on top

[shell copper]

Decided to count the character slots in this hypothetical roster we've been rattling about to compare to the actual Mario Karts, and it has 95 character slots. Compare with 48 in 8 Deluxe (counting the remaining 2 unknown DLC characters), 250 in Tour (193 if we compress all the Mii costumes into one slot), and 26 in Wii (counting both Mii outfits).

[somber oak]

Screw it! Add Iron Checkpoint Crate to Mario Kart 8 as a guest character. I don't care.

[trail tartan]

His Wave comes with a Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled course too!

I did like thinking about how I'd build cups for other series for quite a while. Like a Wumpa Fruit Cup with a course each from Team Racing, Nitro Kart, the bad one and a Nitro Fueled Original.

Or a Chaos Emerald Cup with a track each from the Drift series, Sonic R, the Riders series and the All Stars Racing series.

[somber oak]

Oh! Here's an idea!
Playable trophies!
You can play as the Mushroom Cup Trophy, with all other trophies as alts. The models already exist in the game, so it should be super easy and quick to implement. A no brainer!

[trail tartan]

...actually, on that subject...minor thing, but I'd like DLC Cups, including the 4 Wii U ones, to get unique trophies like the base 8 cups did.

[forest orbit]

Was about to say, that seems like the kind of thing they really should've done for at least the Wii U DLC when porting the game to Switch.

[somber oak]

Yeah. I was hoping at the very least that the BCP trophies would use a different model trophy, even if they all shared that model.

[mint mural]

I dont remember who it was, but I saw these super cool custom cup trophies for some of the BCP and the MK8 DLC

They were like 3d printed and stuff

Really freakin cool

[trail tartan]

I've seen some neat custom ones too. Bought Spiny Cup ones for a couple of friend's birthdays.

Was a spiral trail going upwards into a Winged Spiny Shell.

Seen a Double Cherry one too where each Cherry had it's own "trophy body" connected to the base floor.

[azure mist]

This one?

[trail tartan]

Not seen these ones before. The ones I saw were 3D Printed ones on Etsy being sold.

Like quite a few of those ones though. Propeller, Moon and Fruit especially.

[azure mist]

I dont get the acorn one, why does it look like a bat?

[trail tartan]

I think it's trying to be a flying squirrel, but I agree it's ended up more like a bat...

[burnt spoke]

i don’t like being mean but the crossover section is awful, the layout and placing of the characters is horrid and nonsensical, there’s too many random-ass characters that will not be picked, too many characters in general, characters that should be alts (gooigi and cosmic spirit are separate but metal mario is an alt ????), and the bio is feels shoehorned in

this image makes me irrationally angry

it feels like they just threw in random characters just to make it big

rather than thinking does anyone actually care about this character and would anyone race as them

who the fuck is gonna pick the chimp or whatever from galaxy

[keen ice]

https://twitter.com/nintygametube/status/1687529072048414720?s=20

NGT (@nintygametube)

It's been a week since I release R.O.B. for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe! Thank you all so much for downloading and playing the mod!

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[keen ice]

Honestly I would love to see the DLC Courses have there own uniquly made trophies

[azure mist]

We need a port for wii u

[inland gyro]

The select screen itself looks cool but man i dont care for all these characters
When are people gonna realise that you dont need a billion characters

[keen ice]

Also apparently the Base is the same when R.O.B is on the Bike.
No R.O.B Legs tragically

[karmic tangle]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8Lus11t/

[tight carbon]

@falclmao | QuickVids.win

[azure mist]

They had us in the first half, ngl

[somber oak]

Little less outrageous than the roster posted here last time.

[trail tartan]

Ey, anyone up for Battle Mode antics a bit later?

Been wanting to give the modes a solid try but can't convince more than one person IRL to give it a shot and so many CPUs is a bit...meh.

[shell copper]

Depends when later is - if I'mn't trying to sleep when later comes around, I'd be willing to partake in some Battle Mode.

[trail tartan]

Likely about 1 hour from now.

[shell copper]

So midnight. Works for me.

[trail tartan]

[karmic tangle]

https://fxtwitter.com/Camtoonist/status/1690374374514208769?s=20

[inland gyro]

actually a banger idea

chu chu rocket in sonic racing vibes

[karmic tangle]

lol

dont remember this thats funny

[inland gyro]

it is very funny

[mint mural]

I'm sorry I know it sounds stupid, but I am absolutely in love with parts of tracks in MK8DX that have slight bumps and your kart responds accordingly by going into the bump. It makes the courses feel more alive. If this is confusing, click to 0:57 of this video
https://youtu.be/lqg83xotXMQ

[orchid shadow]

I still think they could've made Toad Circuit more interesting by giving the Toad balloons laser eyes or something

[inland gyro]

oh yeah i love that

waluigi pinball had those on the DS it was always so satisfying to me

[jovial orbit]

How to justify the return of Toad Circuit:
The sky turns red
There are explosions everywhere
Toad starts shooting lasers from his eyes

[woeful stump]

oppenheimario

[jovial orbit]

Attack of the Toads

[burnt spoke]

cool mario kart clips

[orchid shadow]

Tempted to record and post some warm Mario Kart clips in response

[trail tartan]

Played Waves 4 and 5 with my little brother today. He adores the Ptooies so much and loved seeing the bathroom track, fishing for as much Mario nods as he could find despite not being much of a Mario fan.

Also has a favourite racer now. Wiggler has become his main for life...or at least, until he can race as a Ptooie.

While he didn't love too much tracks for just racing, the only track he didn't click with outright was Los Angeles Laps.

[timid shadow]

Those are both perfectly clipped

[burnt spoke]

[daring moss]

Fake Item Boxes haven’t been good since DS

[inland gyro]

noo are you kidding

they sucked in DS but in wii they fool me every time i swear

idk how they did that but the color of fake item boxes from afar make them look like real item boxes

but as you close in they get redder and redder

[burnt spoke]

that is both a skill issue and an eyesight issue that’s not the item box’s doing

DS was the last time they actually looked like a real item box

[inland gyro]

they weren't even moving and they had no ? in them

[shell copper]

I never liked Fake Item Boxes, likely only because they were the sole first place item in DS and Wii that couldn't protect you from shells.

[mint mural]

Ok but they were bright red and the ? was upside down

[inland gyro]

yeah but from afar they looked multi colored I swear

it's not poor eyesight my eyesight is amazing

[shell copper]

Undiagnosed colour blindness?

[mint mural]

Cap

I love the way the modders made them in CTGP-7

[shell copper]

How do they look/work there?

[mint mural]

https://youtu.be/JGkiA4gfkDw

[inland gyro]

LOOK

ITS MULTICOLORED FROM AFAR

[mint mural]

If fibs every return this is how they should be done

[inland gyro]

THIS ISNT RED

[mint mural]

Ok but it's off road

[inland gyro]

i'll find another one

[shell copper]

So they look just like regular item boxes until you get close. Devious.

[burnt spoke]

and it had a very obvious ¿

[trail tartan]

...just got a Custom Stage idea from this conversation...

[shell copper]

You're welcome?

[inland gyro]

fake battlefield

[burnt spoke]

literally don’t know how people could fall for a fake item box in wii

[inland gyro]

it's battlefield but you get closer and it's actually not

[trail tartan]

Need to just pick a track now for doing said idea on.

[mint mural]

GBA Yoshi Desert

[inland gyro]

okay but no seriously

like seriously ? in the heat of the moment ? i'd get fooled

it's only slightly more red

like compare them PLEASE

[burnt spoke]

that is a skill issue idk what to say man

it looks more clear than multicolor than the real ones to me

[inland gyro]

in double dash they're completely red no question about it

[mint mural]

I'm boutta shit my pants

[trail tartan]

I mean...I haven't ever been fooled by a fake item box. Only times I recall being hit by one is someone dumping it on an off-road shortcut's end or just in front a normal item box.

[inland gyro]

in mario kart ds they suck cause they don't move

but in wii they fool me a lot of times

simply because from afar they're multicolored

and they only become red when you're near them

that's genius design idk how they managed that

is it the light ? how does it work

[burnt spoke]

they do not work like that at all

[woeful stump]

you know what would make fake item boxes even better

[inland gyro]

they literally do

[burnt spoke]

it’s def lighting stuff and not intentional design

[woeful stump]

if you throw them near a real one, what if the fake Replaced the real one outright

it can still be spotted to be fake, but its not just in some random position

and it actually takes an option away from people trying to get an item

[inland gyro]

that'd be fun ye

[daring moss]

Just place the imposter inside the item box

[inland gyro]

like look

it's not red

[woeful stump]

sure but you can still see it

[inland gyro]

that's red to you guys ??

[daring moss]

Yea it is

[inland gyro]

no it isn't

[woeful stump]

and you can still pick up an item if you hit it

and yes it is

still very clearly red

[daring moss]

Plus you can still see the upside down ?

[inland gyro]

yes cause it's a still frame

[mint mural]

It isn't completely red, but like, it's still obvious

[inland gyro]

once again, context

heat of the moment

[mint mural]

Bruh

[inland gyro]

guys i swear

who cares it's not a skill issue i can still wipe the floor with all of you in mario kart

i have nothing to prove

[mint mural]

MKWii?

[inland gyro]

no

deluxe

[mint mural]

Bullshit

[inland gyro]

i'm garbage at wii

[mint mural]

I'm decent, but I think I'd be better if the game wouldn't stop fucking hitting me

[inland gyro]

france has a big comp mario kart culture

every sunday we have a tournament held by a big streamer

[mint mural]

My house has a big comp mario kart culture

[inland gyro]

we have a good comp scene

[burnt spoke]

literally is if you’re failing for Wii Fake Item Box

[inland gyro]

no i'm garbage at wii because i pick karts

i can't use bikes

they only have blue drift i can't

[daring moss]

Bikes are too op

Karts are fun

But

Bikes are just better

Sorry man

[inland gyro]

but yeah i prefer 8 deluxe anyway

no fake item boxes here !!

[mint mural]

8DX is just the better game imo

[daring moss]

No funky Kong

[inland gyro]

TRUEEE

[daring moss]

Wii wins

[inland gyro]

just you wait

[mint mural]

Nah fuck wii

[inland gyro]

don't fuck wii it's not built for that

[mint mural]

Wiis like mid

[inland gyro]

the disc compartment isn't wide enough

[daring moss]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-spongebob-no-more-fortnite-blocked-sad-spongebob-gif-21379187

[mint mural]

Reminds me of those warnings about not taking your wii out on date or go parachuting with it lmao

MKWii is like middle tier

[daring moss]

The Wii does not like orange juice

Wii is good.

Great tracks

Fun too play

[mint mural]

Nah it is not fun to play

[daring moss]

Ignore battle mode

[inland gyro]

My mom : where is the wii
Me, with a suspiciously wii shaped neck

my dude didn't even unplug the thing before eating it

fire hazard

[mint mural]

Pros of Wii
Music
Half of nitros
Tricks

Cons of Wii
Looks ass (DD looks better)
Other half of nitros
Retros suck
Balancing issues
Meta is really annoying
Battle mode (also started the trend of making the next few battle modes ass)

New items are also lame

[shell copper]

You're really not going to mention tricks at all?

Good.

[mint mural]

Ok fine tricks are cool

Even still

That doesn't make it a top tier MK game in my eyes

[inland gyro]

wii tricks are lame CTR did them better 8 years before

[mint mural]

Also can I just say that Wii fans are fucking greedy in the BCP

Like bitches want another two tracks in the final wave

[inland gyro]

also how the fuck did they fumble the graphics this hard

double dash looks like the newer game in comparison

it's insane

[mint mural]

I love DD

Such an underrated game

Well from Nintendos pov

[inland gyro]

it's a great game

[mint mural]

Like fuck you, at most you are getting one

[inland gyro]

it and deluxe are my picks for best mario kart

[inland gyro]

leak moment : ||they're for sure getting one||

[daring moss]

Looks decent (would look better without all the bloom tho)
Only a few retros suck
Yeah fair
Ok yeah
Yea yea yea yea yea

[mint mural]

Leak moment ||There is a possibility that Wii DDR could be added since there is presumably an open spot now||

[shell copper]

Perhaps not as spoilery, but ||wasn't the leak (or at least the original one) subverted through either a scrambled order or outright being proven inaccurate?||

[mint mural]

Leak moment ||Its not inaccurate techinically. The files still make mention of the original plans but they have been doing some scrambling around||

[inland gyro]

leak moment : ||yes so we thought the last wave would have 3 nitro tracks
one of them got replaced by moonview highway||

[mint mural]

||And there is one open spot which could be held to an I'm guessing either
N64, GBA, DS or 7 track

I know Mushroom Bridge and whatnot but I don't think it's getting added.

N64 have some tracks that are challenging to be added
GBA also has some, and Yoshi Desert which would be the only standard desert track in the BCP
DS also has a few out there ones, Luigis Mansion, Airship Fortress
7 has some challenging final picks, Wario Shipyard, R. Ice World, etc||

This is a leak btw

[inland gyro]

||i think we're getting two gamecube tracks and we're gonna like them|| LEAK

I hope I'm wrong

[mint mural]

Leak
||The only track we could get is Mushroom Bridge but I think that's unlikely, and City also seems unlikely since it would clash too much with MH. Most courses also share the same music too. I also don't think we are getting two BCs or RRs or Jungle tracks||

[mint mural]

Leak
||What track would you want instead of another GCN track? I'd personally want GBA Yoshi Desert||

[shell copper]

I would've said the same about Moonview Highway with all the other city tracks in the BCP, and even N64 Toad's Turnpike from the base game, yet it still got added.

[inland gyro]

we also said moonview highway couldn't get in because city- yeah that

[inland gyro]

wario's galleon man

i'm a mario kart 7 sucker

i want every mario kart 7 track in the game

shy guy bazaar idk

[timid shadow]

I missed a lot but Fake Item boxes are definitely not red from afar in Wii, Moz is right

[burnt spoke]

rainbow road ds

four rainbow roads in the game with antigrav and none of them are the one with the loop

[timid shadow]

To me they always looked a darker blue

[shell copper]

Were you playing in team races?

[mint mural]

Yes but even still

[timid shadow]

I don't think so I haven't played those since I was a kid
Maybe I'm misremembering though

[shell copper]

Ah, the past. Such a worryingly forgettable thing.

[inland gyro]

HELL YEAH

[inland gyro]

wait nevermind you have eyesight problems

do i have eyesight problems

[mint mural]

I think MKWii is telling u to get ur eyes checked

I'm sorry man

[inland gyro]

thank you mkwii for giving me eyesight problems by being so ugly

[mint mural]

Ok let's see Moz, if you don't have eyesight problems, how many fingers am I holding up rn

[inland gyro]

three

[timid shadow]

Y'know what's funny? This is a bit off topic from Mario Kart, but when I go to my doctor for yearly checkup or whatever, the eye machine says I have problems with my eyes, but when I go to an optometrist for further examination, nothing is wrong.

[mint mural]

Fuck

[inland gyro]

i am a precog

[timid shadow]

The eye machine has said I've had problems for three years now.

[mint mural]

Damn

That's weird

[inland gyro]

the only eye exams i've ever had were by students in eye studies

like uh

"eye studies" lol uh

how do you say

[mint mural]

Health class?

[inland gyro]

no like

people whose studies are like... they wanna become an optometrist later on

[timid shadow]

Optometry?

[inland gyro]

yeah I guess lol

didn't know that word

-so what do you study ?
-eyes 👁️

[mint mural]

Same and I'm english

[shell copper]

WRONG
America is not England. You willed as such in your act of treason in centuries gone.

[mint mural]

I'm like 75% English tho

Also techinically the east coast of America is called New England so like

[shell copper]

Evidently just woefully uncreative with your place names, and had to rob them from those that were already named better.

[mint mural]

My friends straight up call me a red coat

[shell copper]

Red?
COMMUNIST???

[timid shadow]

Ok well it's still up in the air whether or not England has better names

[timid shadow]

Cause you're Red Scout obviously
They can't tell a coat from a shirt

[mint mural]

This is very important to the Mario Kart lore

[shell copper]

Of course it is, you've seen all those city tracks. We have every right to be staggered by the fact that the Berlin Wall exists in Mario Kart lore, and was apparently built across a river.

[inland gyro]

guys what was your first MK

mine was diddy kong racing ds

[mint mural]

Mine was DS

I remember watching my sister play it

Then stealing the game card from her

[shell copper]

Either DS or Wii. Probably Wii first and then DS, but I don't remember, and given how young I was then, don't think I can be expected to.

[eternal violet]

Either DS or super circuit

[mint mural]

What's your guys favorite one?

Mines super circuit

It's like objectively a pretty bad game, but I still love it

[shell copper]

I'm a boring schmuck; my favourite's probably 8 Deluxe.

[mint mural]

No thats a very based choice

A boring schmuck would say Wii

That's like the cookie cutter favorite game

[shell copper]

I dunno, I'd reckon that 8 Deluxe could also fit that description.

[trail tartan]

1st one was Double Dash. Favourite is 8 Deluxe.

[inland gyro]

mk7

i just love mk7

its only flaw is no vs mode whyyyyy

everything about mk7 rules

nitro tracks are awesome

retro tracks are the best choices EVER

[burnt spoke]

first one was DS, for favorite id have to say Double Dash or Wii simply because of their mechanics

like but outside of mechanics i actually don’t like wii much

i just like inside drift bikes being good and wheelies because it’s fun

outside of that could not care less

mid tier mk for me but bikes are fun so i play it every now and then

[timid shadow]

My first was Wii

I liked using the Sugarscoot with Yoshi and Yoshi Falls was my favorite track

(I liked the big egg)

[urban musk]

8D is my favorite.
My first was 64

[trail tartan]

Something I do find funny if my first one has turned out to be my least favourite besides Super Mario Kart.

Double Dash has plenty neat stuff, but playing it just...isn't fun for me at all. It's the game I get most excited about Retros of coming back for that reason.

[mint mural]

I totally get that

Here's my ranking of MKs

1. Super Circuit
2. 8DX
3. Tour
4. Double Dash
5. DS
6. 7
7. GPDX
8. Wii
9. GP 1 / 2
10. N64
11. SNES

Bubba would be fuming right now at this list

[shell copper]

You've played the arcade Mario Karts enough to form opinions on them?

[mint mural]

Yeah. There's a Dave and Busters (an arcade place) a little while from my town and I've played quite a bit of GPDX while there. I remember playing GP 1 on a cruise when I was like 7 so my opinion might change from then. GP 1 and 2 are basically the same so I just grouped em together

[trail tartan]

For me, the order is...
1: 8 Deluxe
2: DS
3: Wii
4: Super Circuit and 7 tied
5: 64 (Wanna highlight how much heavy lifting Battle Mode is doing here for me...)
6: Double Dash
7: Super Mario Kart

[mint mural]

Oh if we going battle modes then

1. DS
2. 8DX
3. 7
4. Tour
5. Wii

I haven't played the other battle modes

[trail tartan]

Not doing Battle Modes on their own, but will say that DS has my favourite Battle Mode too.

[shell copper]

Bet you're only going off Balloon Battle here (though to be fair, I love DS' Balloon Battle too).

[trail tartan]

Nope. DS has a bunch of maps I adore playing Battle Mode on too, with the GOAT named Block Fort present as well from 64.

[mint mural]

The modes, and the maps were awesome

[trail tartan]

If it's arenas were more lacking for me, then Balloon Battle alone would indeed not be enough to beat out 8 Deluxe's variety of modes even if I don't care for it's Balloon Battle. lol

[mint mural]

If Tour played a little bit better, I'd say it beats out 7

If u don't know, it brought back elimination style battle mode

And when out, you are able to throw shells, bananas and bombs from a moving platform above

It's a good new take of battle mode and I hope it gets added to 8DX along with GCN Cookie Land, DS Twilight House, Wii Block Plaza, and Tour NY Minute B or Paris Promenade B

[lusty citrus]

Battle mode's a disaster lmao

Like every battle mode is very different from each other unlike the races somehow

[mint mural]

I had a dream about battle mode last night. GBA Battle Course 3 was being added to MK8DX, the bg was the Wii sky box, but the main arena was highly detailed. It was also labeled as GBA Mario Circuit

[timid shadow]

That would be awesome

Finally MK8DX would be a good game

[mint mural]

Having GBA Battle Course 3????

[timid shadow]

with the Wii skybox and high detail and being called GBA Mario Circuit

[mint mural]

DATAMINES FOR TOUR WHICH COULD LEAD TO ADDITIONS TO THE MK8 BCP
||https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e4BWcP0THIDjlv1hq7J7AGoPLJpDo4pfTEnDRb4AnqI/htmlview||

||The fact that there is even a consideration of bringing back GBA Rainbow Road has made my day 10x better||

||Like I bet it will just be used for a challenge but it still makes me excited to think about||

[warped aspen]

||Hmmmm, interesting. Cool to see new data found since there hadn't been anything new for a bit and we were about to catch up with the remaining ones||

[mint mural]

||I'm really glad Nintendo is going with more out there picks for battle courses and tracks instead of playing it safe and remaking old retro courses||

||Like I hated Battle Mode in Wii, but I genuinely enjoyed some of the maps, one of them being Block Plaza. Glad to see it likely making a return||

||Also I'm interested in knowing what that sound effect will be used for||

||My first thought is that it could be Chain Chomp Wheel from Wii, but im not sure||

[warped aspen]

||I was just thinking to myself the other day that we really haven't seen them add more Battle Maps, so getting more would very much be nice.||

[mint mural]

||It could also Segway nicely if they wanted to add new battle maps to 8||

[mint mural]

||Yeah according to the wiki, basically the only tracks they could be used on is

N64 Rainbow Road (does have a possibility)
GCN Mario / Luigi Circuit (unlikely)
Wii Mario Circuit (unlikely
And Wii Chain Chomp Wheel (which makes the most sense)||

[trail tartan]

Been a while since I saw a bunch of black rectangles to actively avoid on Discord.

[eternal violet]

https://tenor.com/view/price-scanner-gif-21943842

[trail tartan]

Ah, so the next Tour track is a till at Coconut Mall which we are tiny on! Looking forward to it!

[jovial orbit]

||The Wuhu Island tracks have been leaked for so long, do we think it'll ever actually release?||

[mint mural]

||I think there is a chance, but their files of Wuhu are still there so potentially||

[daring moss]

||Toad’s Factory yippee||

[mint mural]

||I think the Toads Factory and Grumble Volcano placements were out of date||

||From what I remember, Toads Factory had been speculated all the way back before Singapore Speedway was announced, and thus people saw the conveyor belt model and thought it meant Toads Factory but it was for Singapore||

[lusty citrus]

Wait are these new

[mint mural]

Some of them yes, presumably ||Wii Chain Chomp Wheel, Block Plaza and GBA Rainbow Road||

[lusty citrus]

Tour's nitro tracks are now perfectly evenly split between european cities, non-european cities, and non-cities

And it goes:

New York Minute
Tokyo Blur
Vancouver Velocity
Los Angeles Laps
Sydney Sprint
Singapore Speedway
Bangkok Rush

Paris Promenade
London Loop
Berlin Byways
Amsterdam Drift
Athens Dash
Rome Avanti
Madrid Drive

Merry Mountain
Ninja Hideaway
Sky-High Sundae
Piranha Plant Cove
Yoshi's Island
Squeaky Clean Sprint
Piranha Plant Pipeline

[mint mural]

Damn, 21 nitro tracks?

That's a lot

[shell copper]

Even more if you count the numbered alternate routes as separate tracks, though if you don't, Mario Kart 8 with the original Wii U DLC does still beat it out at 25 nitro tracks.

[somber oak]

Do Remix tracks count?

[shell copper]

...yeah, I'd say the remix tracks should count, given that the SNES' numbered tracks are all unique, and the RMX tracks are too. Give me a moment to check how many nitros that adds.

9 remix courses, making 30 nitros.

[mint mural]

It will probably be 31 within the next few weeks

RMX Vanilla Lake 2 will be a thing so that's 31 nitros

[lusty citrus]

Tbh i wouldn't count rmx tracks because they aren't in the bcp so

[trail tartan]

Honestly, that's not relevant IMO as the subject is specifically Tour's Nitros.

[mint mural]

Yeah but that's like any track that isn't in the BCP

[shell copper]

...which at this point is suprisingly few. Rome, Madrid, the two Piranha Plant tracks and the 9 RMX courses are the only ones not in the BCP yet.

[mint mural]

Ok, does anyone else hate players who bag in Mario Kart? Like play the game properly
https://youtube.com/shorts/at2J5m9nhf4?si=UIOfoRZxq8QTt-O2

[shell copper]

I can't say it's a strategy I hold particularly strong opinions about, nor is it a strategy I've ever pursued myself, mostly since, as you said, aiming for first at all times feels more like the way you should be playing, but also partially because I play with auto-accelerate, so probably couldn't effectively bag anyway.

[mint mural]

Yeah that's fair

Though it's annoying to see players doing it online

Also that "if u get hit over and over, you aren't good at mario kart" line really pissed me off

Actually this dude in general pisses me off

[shell copper]

Talks like he's the toppest of players who knows everything?

[trail tartan]

As someone that likes waiting at the start to fight my way through the pack, I also dislike outright bagging. I don't wait and gather up good items. I give the field a head start then try to fight my way back up because I find it the most fun racing in the pack rather than in the lead if I'm honest.

[eternal violet]

Nah. I've tried bagging before and it isn't an instant win tactic. It does require skill however i do think this guy ignores any skill required in front running

[trail tartan]

Bagging to me is intentionally waiting for an active star while holding golden shrooms and gaining lightning too. And I LOATHE that style of play.

[inland gyro]

i'm not against bagging

to me it feels actively anti-productive since.. i mean when everyone is actively going forward in front of you and you're standing idle then you're gonna maybe lose lol

it's a race

go forward dumbo

[woeful stump]

well yea but thats the idea. you get a good item without actually being that far behind and you can make your way back to the front completely covered

[mint mural]

Yea but why do that when you can play the game properly?

[eternal violet]

what's the point of playing any game if you have to do it 100% properly tbh. Allows for little creativity.

It's just a strategy, you don't have to do it.

[mint mural]

I know, it's just annoying to play against online

[woeful stump]

i dont like bagging im baffled that someone would think its not a problem

item balance is. yikes

so abusing it is very easy

[inland gyro]

i've yet to lose a race to a bagger

it'll be a problem when everyone does it

for now online i don't think i've met a singler bagger

or I have and have just beat them ? lol

sometimes i think people are bagging but the game is just lagging so hard it just doesn't update's people coordinates

[eternal violet]

It'd be a problem if it always worked and was always rewarding on every single track. Like yeah it can suck sometimes but I don't believe it's a huge problem.

[mint mural]

I think because it's not become that widespread, it is fine for now

But kust like with Funky Kong / Daisy Meta of Wii, it becomes so widespread that it becomes a problem

[lusty citrus]

I hope the next mario kart actually has a report system and bans bagging from being a thing

[karmic tangle]

Is it really ban worthy? The game could just be designed so that's not the dominant strategy
Which it's debatable

I always thought it was called item smuggling
Is that different?

[inland gyro]

item smuggling is different i think

[somber finch]

Solution: Turn off items except for banana peels, mushrooms, star, and shells.

[inland gyro]

bagging is staying behind to get big items to catch up
item smuggling is that but you only use big items when in first or close to first

i think

[karmic tangle]

That makes sense

Maybe lol

[karmic tangle]

How is that the solution 😂 wdym

Couldn't you still do that with these items

[somber finch]

If the issue is the getting a certain item to get ahead, you just remove the items that do that.

[karmic tangle]

Mushrooms and stars

[somber finch]

I was referring to the Bullet Bill.

[eternal violet]

Stars are also very important when it comes to bagging

[mint mural]

Item smuggling is a method I actually respect cause you have to work your way up to the front with just skill in order to get there

[karmic tangle]

I think Mario Kart as a whole gets less fun The more serious you take it
So bagging is just like... It's not something that should be banned or whatever
It's like wave dashing and melee 😂
Fun canceling

[burnt spoke]

ive only ever bagged for the purposes of getting mushrooms on mushroom gorge

[trail tartan]

That first sentence IMO can be applied to any game.

[karmic tangle]

based

[lusty citrus]

Imagine bagging

[urban musk]

Imagine dragons

[lusty citrus]

For melee i get it because it's tech and tech shouldn't be removed from a fighting game, but mario kart's an item based racing game, and that's just not the same tbh

Bagging may be strategy but it's definitely not one i support, it's like teaming in a battle royale game

[karmic tangle]

Even if ya consider it a flaw in the design, can't blame a player for using all the available strategies to win imo
but like I said before, it's less fun to take a wacky randomy game like this super seriously, that's up to the individual ig tho

[mint mural]

Yeah I understand you want to win

But like

Idk

Just annoying

[karmic tangle]

yup I agree lol
this is a time where i say blame the game, not the player

[trail tartan]

I choose to blame both.

And again, I'm saying this as someone that does wait at the starting line a bit sometimes not to bag some good items, but because Mario Kart's the most fun to me when fighting through a pack of racers.

Getting First Place is neat, but being in First for most of the race is rather dull IMO for contrast. The middle of the field's where most of the fun is.

[karmic tangle]

i made a bagging tutorial in 2012 for mario kart 7

[trail tartan]

I won't hold it against you, don't worry. After all, you later on made a great community for Smash Custom Stages.

Redemption accomplished in my eyes.

[karmic tangle]

im gonna be persecuted

[burnt spoke]

fun challenge for when you play with CPUs: try to lap 12th place

no baby park obv but if you drive well enough in other tracks i think it’s possible

[trail tartan]

I actually do manage this decently often.

[burnt spoke]

normal or hard CPUs

[trail tartan]

It's what sold me on finding being first all the time a little dull. lol

Hard CPUs. I...honestly forget the other difficulties exist now.

[burnt spoke]

how do you forget the other difficulties exist you have to switch to Hard manually in VS

[trail tartan]

Blame autopilot through menus.

[burnt spoke]

i always have to remind myself to switch to hard lol

[trail tartan]

Most of my single player racing is in Grand Prixes too as well so there's another factor in it not always registering.

[burnt spoke]

that said i don’t really use VS much outside of playing with family like maybe once every 3 months and practicing mushroom gorge jump to flex on my friends when we play online together

[trail tartan]

...though will say that when Wave 6 drops, the first thing I'm doing is 96 races across every track in the game.

[burnt spoke]

i don’t play GP anymore i already got 3 stars on all speeds in the base game cups i have no reason to keep doing it

[trail tartan]

On a related note, add 96 as a number for races in VS mode with Wave 6, nintendo.

I find that Grand Prixes pose a slightly bigger threat in races from CPUs than VS mode because of the rival system. That's why I tend to still play them despite also having all 3 stars.

[burnt spoke]

eh

i find GP boring because i can’t just choose any track i want

[trail tartan]

Fair enough. I am actually confident that I'm the minority in that stance.

[burnt spoke]

like if i want to play 3DS Rainbow Road i have to do 3 other tracks first to reach the one i want

VS is just easier because i can just do whatever i want and fuck around

[trail tartan]

See, I don't mind that because even though it's my favourite track in the series, it's also still a Rainbow Road and definitely has that finale feel to it. So even if I am racing in VS mode, I still tend to pick 3DS Rainbow Road last.

That goes for when I'm doing all 4 Rainbow Road in one set of 4 races too. The order I go with them is SNES first, then 8's, then 64's and ending on 3DS's.

If Wave 6's final track is what I think it'll be (Don't confirm what it will be. Been avoiding leaks), then it'll go between 64 and 3DS.

...am honestly still bitter that I can't do a GP of Bowser Castles. Or even just Bowser tracks in general.

[karmic tangle]

they added LIGHT BLUE Mii RACING SUIT! everyone stay calm!

https://tenor.com/view/you-crazy-son-of-a-bitch-you-did-it-jurassic-park-ian-malcolm-gif-16042346

[timid shadow]

This fixes ALL of Tour's problems!

[forest orbit]

If this isn't in the Booster Course Pass, I'm going to rip out your heart and stick it in a lootbox.

[timid shadow]

A worthy sacrifice

[mint mural]

Honestly RMX Vanilla Lake 2 looks really cool

No pun intended

I love the use of the igloos

[mint mural]

Image contains potiental BCP tracks

Do people really want Wii Daisy Circuit? People are always complaining about circuits and now they want one? Especially since last wave had none? I swear it's gotta be nostalgia bias, it isn't even that good of a track

[daring moss]

Daisy Circuit is only a circuit in name. People love the aesthetic and the cute simple layout

[orchid shadow]

Daisy Circuit is a poor name for a pretty good track

[timid shadow]

It's really really good but it's relatively simple and MK8 already has a lot of tracks that are really simple. While it is aesthetically not a typical circuit, it still has a basic design with no gimmicks, a staple of most circuit tracks.

[mint mural]

Exactly

[timid shadow]

Yeah, even though it's one of my favorites from Wii, I don't think we need it MK8DX...

[lusty citrus]

Someone showed me a list of mkwii track list from worst to best, mixing a lot of youtubers' opinions om them and damn

Daisy circuit was pretty low

Which is sad cuz i love daisy circuit

Oh yeah here is the list, it's got nathaniel bandy, silokhawk, troy, and scaffrillas

[trail tartan]

Toad's Factory not being back is criminal in my eyes...

[lusty citrus]

Nintendo's straight up just not touching it

They constantly keep on avoiding it

It's sad

[trail tartan]

Ghost Valley feels a tad too low on that list for my liking. Especially behind Shy Guy Beach...

[lusty citrus]

It's an snes track, nothing else i can say

[trail tartan]

Also...um...8 Deluxe? I just wanna point out how Wii had not one but two retro Bowser Castles...I am disappointed in you, 8 Deluxe.

[lusty citrus]

Y'know tho, it's not like if wii is any better

Everytime nintendo brings back a bowser castle it's only from the snes-gba era

They mever touch the other ones aside of that one time 3ds bc got ported to tour

But that's a given considering tour at the start was based off 7

[trail tartan]

Wii gets a pass cos not only if it the 2nd set of retros, but one of the ones it brought back is N64's.

[lusty citrus]

N64's bowser castle is good

[trail tartan]

And GBA, N64 and Wii's own one is a nice variety of Bowser Castle styles.

[lusty citrus]

Not stellar though, it's still an n64 track

[trail tartan]

Plus, Wii is better than 8 Deluxe in that regard by having a retro Bowser Castle at all.

[lusty citrus]

What if they added one in wave 6?

Imagine if they added snes bowser castle 3 lol

Because, you know

Donut plains 3

Mario circuit 3

We just need bowser's castle 3

[orchid shadow]

Gonna be honest, Super Mario Kart's naming convention for tracks doesn't help, I can't remember what a single track looks like

[mint mural]

I feel like people are forgetting that if they bring back every fan favorite, then people won't be excited for the next game that does have them. Let's be honest, a big reason why people get so hyped for a new MK game is because of the retros

[eternal violet]

Ngl i'd be more hyped if they kept at least one inkling rather than if they added one of my favorite tracks back

[lusty citrus]

I only remember mario circuit 1 for having the same exact layour as mushroom bridge

And raimbow road for...being rainbow road

[lusty citrus]

Tbh i just think they should drop the "already used retros aren't allowed" thing, because they might run out of them

Still, this is very true

Shy guy bazaar, airship fortress, wario colloseum, and there's also 8's nitros that could come back in a future mario kart

[lusty citrus]

It has fallen

[forest orbit]

What, the thwomp? Yeah, they tend to do that.

[lusty citrus]

Mario kart tour

It's closing has been announced

[mint mural]

well the content is going to stop being new

thats it

next tour will be the final tour with new stuff

its really disheartening ill be honest

i know it gets a lot of flak by fans, but i love playing it with my dad

[inland gyro]

diddy kong

[somber oak]

We get 4 new characters, despite the two remaining slots. Pauline and Diddy as predicted, Funky Kong and Peachette of all people! No Nabbit! I feel robbed!

[jovial orbit]

RIP Nabbit

We need more purple

[orchid shadow]

No way, they upgraded Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

[inland gyro]

okay for real where will they fit the two new girls i'm confused

[urban musk]

Peachette will likely fit as an alt for either Peach or Toadette

And I'd think Funky would be set to DK

[inland gyro]

that'd make no sense though

[urban musk]

That or a whole new row is opened up and they announce Booster Pass 2 (they won't but it's a possibility all the same)

[orchid shadow]

Funky gets his own slot just awkwardly placed somewhere on screen because he's a fan favourite and the MKWii fanbase would flip

[inland gyro]

like funky and dk aren't the same character

[orchid shadow]

By the same logic, Tanooki Mario should be under Mario, right? Because it's the same guy

[inland gyro]

no because tanooki mario has a different moveset

or uh like, stats and animations rather

[orchid shadow]

Actually how has Dr. Mario not been in a main series Mario Kart yet?

[inland gyro]

characters are only costumes when they share stats and animations

[urban musk]

So then it stands to reason Funky would be a costume so long as he shares DK's stats and animations

[timid shadow]

Diddy Funky Peachette, all cool awesome
Pauline though...

Well there's nothing wrong with her I'm just not a fan

[daring moss]

GGGRRRRRRR I HATE PEACHETTE

STAIN ON SOCIETY

[orchid shadow]

Peachette is joint worst character in Mario Kart

[inland gyro]

wait pauline bike suit ???

peachette bike suit ???????

[burnt spoke]

prob

my interest disappeared once i saw funky but then i saw pauline and it was all good

[jovial orbit]

Diddy appeared first, and I was satisfied
Then Pauline appeared 3rd, and I was stunned.
And I can't be mad about Toadette since we were only expecting 2 characters.

[timid shadow]

Yeah I'm fine with this selection

[somber oak]

I consider Diddy Kong and Pauline essential, albeit not very interesting. That's why I had double feelings about them. I'd personally prefer Nabbit and Poochie over them, but if that were to happen, I'd still feel Diddy Kong and Pauline had to be in there, for the sake of completing the roster.
Now that they've shown more than 2 new characters, we could have the two essential ones and some new interesting ones. Funky Kong is a fan favorite, so that makes sense.

There's nothing wrong with Peachette. I also understand that she's easier to implement with Peach as a base. I'm just disappointed that with the door open for even more characters, my most wanted still didn't make the cut.

[warped aspen]

I just realized that we're now getting all the Star Cup tracks from MKWii with this new game. And we ironically got each track in the opposite order of the cup in terms of release date.

[lusty citrus]

Hii

Man, the characters that they chose this time were obvious but still veru important and i like that

Aside of peachette

I'm mostly exicited for funky and pauline tbh

Altough i'd replace peachette with nabbit, specially with wonder coming out soon

But eh, peachette isn't thwt good nor that bad

Also i like daisy circuit but damn

They just

Never fucking stopped adding circuits to this game

The bcp has too many circuits lmao

Altough witu daisy circuit we have a circuit from each mk game

Which i find very cool

[keen ice]

If we are getting 4 more characters then my wishlist characters are King Bob-Omb, E. Gadd, Poochy and Nabbit

[trail tartan]

Didn't the two Villagers have different stats on Wii U despite sharing a slot?

I'm hoping we get an extra update with 4 more characters and, say, Battle Mode arenas as an extra bonus.

But let's see how the characters are handled first.

[inland gyro]

wii u is an outlier adn should not have been counted

[trail tartan]

Well tough. I'm counting it.

Did not expect Daisy Circuit BTW. Wii really got so much love in the pass.

[orchid shadow]

Daisy Circuit, the best part about Daisy

[inland gyro]

i'm so confused about daisy circuit

[urban musk]

What's there to be confused about?

[daring moss]

It's a good track idk what there is to be confused about

[inland gyro]

it wasn't supposed to be here

i mean i guess it's the surprise track but if it is we literally know all the 7 other tracks

[jovial orbit]

Oh, your "leaks"

[trail tartan]

...good! I love leaks being wrong!

[inland gyro]

so either it is the surprise track
or it's not

[timid shadow]

Leak this leak that

[inland gyro]

and if it's not...

rainbow road....

[urban musk]

"This cannot BE! The prophecies did not foretell Daisy Circuit!"

[inland gyro]

i wanna reply to this so bad

[timid shadow]

Why don't you leak tears from your eyeballs

[orchid shadow]

You know what's interesting, how they only showed off one track

[trail tartan]

I wouldn't doubt Rainbow Road yet. I'm guessing Wii's is implied and Wii's is the only other one in Tour, isn't it?

So feels a safeish bet, even if I want GBA Rainbow Road more.

[urban musk]

Wii RR is still the most likely

[jovial orbit]

~~Too bad Tour's RMX Rainbow Road ~~

[urban musk]

It's not etched in stone, naturally, but it's where the odds are.

[trail tartan]

Well, congratulations! You did indeed reply to it.

[inland gyro]

not but like, reply with other, very different words

[orchid shadow]

Isn't it guaranteed that there's atleast two city tracks, therefor there's like, what, 6 other tracks left to come, and we know one is Daisy Circuit

[trail tartan]

I think the other two Tour Nitros are basically safe bets too myself.

[inland gyro]

we know the 7 other tracks

[orchid shadow]

We do?

[trail tartan]

I'm not part of this "we". lol

[daring moss]

Every track is daisy circuit

[urban musk]

There's a decent amount I can infer.
I'm not blessed enough to claim what the future holds though

No psychics in my noggin

[orchid shadow]

Each is Daisy Circuit but the statues in the middle change

There's a very cool one where Daisy is replaced with another Luigi

[inland gyro]

spoiler for wave 6 of the BCP
the tracks are
||the two city tracks, madrid and rome||
||pirahna plant cove and piranha plant pipeline||
||a gamecube track||
||wii rainbow road and snes bowser castle 3||

[orchid shadow]

If that's true, then ||Why a SNES track?||

[trail tartan]

The only thing I will say...and no one confirm anything to do with it for me as I'm avoiding these spoilers and leaks...

[jovial orbit]

At the very least we can presume some of those safely

[inland gyro]

||there hasn't been any since the beginning lol they gotta add one||

[trail tartan]

Wave 6 MUST have a Bowser Castle. PLEASE!!!!!

Sick of the drought of them!

[urban musk]

With the narrow amount left, I'd say at least one making it in is a safe bet.

[inland gyro]

||wait no there was one nevermind
but yeah no there was supposed to be a snes track last wave and it got pushed back
initially rumored to be vanilla lake, but since it got pushed to wave 6, we're assuming it's bowser castle 3||

[orchid shadow]

No I mean like, imagine it's the final DLC pack and instead of the fan favourites they just go

[inland gyro]

||i mean it's that or bowser castle gba, there's no other bowser castle in mario kart tour||

[jovial orbit]

||3DS||

[shell copper]

||Was about to say!||

[inland gyro]

yooooooo wait awesome

[keen ice]

Lava Circuit

[orchid shadow]

Flying Skeleton Hell Circuit

[shell copper]

Is the lava out-of-bounds, or do you spin out continuously whilst driving on it?

[orchid shadow]

Both

[keen ice]

Kinda reminds me of the Lava Road from that Mario Kart Wii Mod

[orchid shadow]

Does that also have a giant flying skeleton?

[mint mural]

Now that Wii Daisy Circuit is in 8, I hope that this opens the doors for GBA Rainbow Road as the final track since not only has it been datamined for Tour it would also be another out of left field pick

Also I love how people were arguing about Diddy, Pauline, and Funky getting in and Nintendos like

https://tenor.com/view/both-agree-yes-good-gif-4591420

[lusty citrus]

I mean, it might have been datamined but like

It's not gettin anymore content lmao

[trail tartan]

On October 4th, it's not getting more. Til then, game on.

[lusty citrus]

Damn

That's literally right before my birthday

[shell copper]

I'm pretty sure that it's the 2023 Anniversary Tour, starting on the 20th of this month, that'll be the start of the last tour to add new content.

[lusty citrus]

I love when random nintendo dates happen alongside my birthdate

From super mario party's release to sora's trailer

[trail tartan]

A Rainbow Road would be a neat track to end Tour on so...am hopeful. GBA Rainbow Road would be my preferred Rainbow Road, after all.

But given the love Wii has gotten, I'd honestly be surprised if it wasn't Wii's Rainbow Road at this point.

[lusty citrus]

It seems tour will end in the battle tour

I hope that means we could get battke courses or some shit

[lusty citrus]

Yeah i expect it to be wii rr

[jovial orbit]

Wuhu Island Tracks

[lusty citrus]

Honestly i believe they'll just do them dirty forever since they are technically crossover tracks

Didn't you guys get that gba rr datamine thing from a google form

[trail tartan]

To be fair, I didn't get a datamine. Been generally avoiding details on those for Tour in case of hints, but Tour itself hasn't been consistant with it's datamined stuff.

Plus, that Rainbow Road one's slipped by and thus I knew of it already. Hence lack of frustration. lol

[lusty citrus]

Dont you not follow leaks

You prob don't know a lot lkao

[trail tartan]

...that's kinda the point?

I DON'T want to know what's coming up. Wanna be surprised.

[mint mural]

So? It just needs to be made within Tour for it to count. It doesn’t need to be released. Look at Snow Land and Shroom Ridge, courses that went a while without actually being released

[mint mural]

Yes, but a man can dream. Enough Wii content, already

I mean it probably isn’t going to happen

Especially considering Wii RR is already in Tour and there’s like a 99% chance they end the pass on a RR

Also taking into account how popular Wii RR and Wii as a game is

They can bank off of it, and it’s worked

But like, I kinda don’t want 2 Wii tracks again

Especially considering one of the said Wii tracks is a circuit

And Dry Dry Ruins could’ve been a perfect contender as a Wave 6 track

It’s pissing me off the more I think about it

[lusty citrus]

I mean the content in that form can definitely be legit

But i checked it today and i don't see it there anymore

[lusty citrus]

Ehhhhhh

This dlc absolutely loves wii

The re introduction of half pipes, the adding all the missing characters from wii, the fact that like only like 6 wii tracks haven't been confirmed for the dlc and shit

So you are right but they obv won't stop

And i am sure you know this

[mint mural]

I know

[lusty citrus]

As i said

I know

[mint mural]

I know, you know, who know

Anyway, yeah

There were 5 games they could’ve chosen

They could’ve chosen an N64 track

Or maybe a GBA track, considering the new remakes

[shell copper]

Granted.
It's N64 Bowser's Castle, because it was the last track in Wii's Lightning Cup.

[mint mural]

Or a DS track maybe bringing one of the unique courses from that game to consoles

Hell even 3DS has enough tracks that they could’ve pulled from

[lusty citrus]

If they did do that i'd be crying to myself lmao

[mint mural]

It’s kinda upsetting when we basically know 6 out of the 8 tracks are Tour (which isn’t a problem since it’s going to be shutting down) and Wii tracks for Wave 6

[lusty citrus]

I'd say airship, but i'd prefer to see it in the next mario kart game so that the next nitro/dlc nitro sellection is good

[mint mural]

They’ve shown with the BCP though they aren’t afraid to double dip

[lusty citrus]

6 out of 8?

[mint mural]

All four Tour courses (Rome, Piranha Plant Pipeline and Cove, Madrid)
And Wii Daisy Circuit and most likely Wii RR

[lusty citrus]

Wdym 6 of the tracks are tour

That is such weird wording

[trail tartan]

They said Tour (stuff) and Wii.

[mint mural]

Technically speaking this stuff is all coming from Tour so…

[somber oak]

8/8 tracks are from Mario Kart games. Don't ask how I know.

[mint mural]

True

He’s not wrong

[lusty citrus]

The comedic expertise

[shell copper]

Watch as they add a third F-Zero track just to laugh in your face.

[mint mural]

Oh god

Not only would that be a slap into the face of FZero fans… again, I would also hate that ngl

[trail tartan]

With 99 F-Zero racers as hazards.

[mint mural]

I know people love the FZero tracks in MK8, but I’ve never liked them

[lusty citrus]

The f zero mario kart tracks are good but they are way too overpicked in onliine

[mint mural]

Personally I kinda hate the idea of crossovers in MK

[trail tartan]

I don't mind it purely because Splatoon aside, the crossover content has been DLC. Would feel more awkward with a heavy dose of it was in base game.

[mint mural]

True

[trail tartan]

And no, 8 Deluxe having 8's DLC in base game doesn't count.

[burnt spoke]

mario kart having crossovers is fine in moderation

[lusty citrus]

I don't get why people hate mario kart crossovers so much, only like 6 of the 98 tracks in the game are crossover based

It's not THAT bad

[trail tartan]

...96....just saying...

[burnt spoke]

i think a row of crossovers like they have it in 8DX is the sweet spot

[lusty citrus]

Bruh

Still though

[mint mural]

Three of which are some of the most overpicked courses in online

I do understand though

[lusty citrus]

That..doesn't mean that the tracks aren't moderated well

That's online's problem

Not the game

[burnt spoke]

what do you mean 6 crossover courses

big blue
mute city
excitebike
animal crossing

[mint mural]

Hyrule circuit

[burnt spoke]

right

[lusty citrus]

Okay so we have big blue, mute city, excitebike, hyrule circuit, animal crossing and urchin underpass

[burnt spoke]

urchin underpass is a battle stage i was counting it separately

[trail tartan]

The two F-Zero ones, Animal Crossing, Excitebike, Hyrule and I think Yoshi's Island kinda counts despite being a crossover within Mario?

[lusty citrus]

Urchin underpass is technically a battle state but idfc

Still crossover shit

[burnt spoke]

yoshi’s island doesn’t count

[trail tartan]

I did say kinda.

[lusty citrus]

And even then if we coumt the battle courses there is still a bigger difference margin

[shell copper]

Love the Super Mario World 2 crossover track.

[lusty citrus]

Hell no

[woeful stump]

um. youre forgetting moo moo meadows

[lusty citrus]

Counting yoshi's island would be like counting dk country

[mint mural]

I’m confused, the online is run by the game

[burnt spoke]

that’s like saying the dk track from 7 is a crossover

the game pulls like 3 tracks randomly you’re just getting unlucky with the random picks

[lusty citrus]

Mario kart X the dairy mario factory

[lusty citrus]

What

[woeful stump]

nice try

[lusty citrus]

Do you mean the player's picks, or the game's 3 track selection thing

[mint mural]

You said it wasn’t the games fault

But like

It is

[burnt spoke]

it picks 3 at random

[lusty citrus]

I asked you something

What are you referring to oh my god

[mint mural]

Fuck it

Never mind

[lusty citrus]

💀

[shell copper]

Doesn't do a great job of avoiding repeats, though - I had a karting session earlier today, and SNES Rainbow Road wound up appearing twice in relatively quick succession, and I'm pretty sure it was offered as an option a third time shortly after.

[lusty citrus]

Is there any data that shows these things being said here 😭

[mint mural]

Do you not believe him or something

[shell copper]

Are you accusing me of lying, DarkDust?

[mint mural]

I’ve had the same issue quite a bit with repeats

The game favours courses over others

It also doesn’t help that the roulette thing just does nothing

[burnt spoke]

i didn’t say it did a good job i just know it picks from tracks at random

though i don’t think it’s all tracks

[shell copper]

I doubt it's that; I think it's just the game not adequately blocking repeats, players favouring certain tracks or not favouring others, and simple bad luck.

[lusty citrus]

Maybe

[mint mural]

Wow

Messed up

[burnt spoke]

i haven’t played much of online but it seems to have a certain pool of levels it can pick from

[trail tartan]

Wrong answer.

[mint mural]

Honestly I’d rather just play random offline

And that’s exactly what I do

[shell copper]

I play almost exclusively online; can't say I've noticed this. You sure you'ren't playing DS instead? Because I know for a fact that game restricted what tracks could appear online.

[mint mural]

Online is cool, but combating with the meta players, the bagging players, sometimes the game lagging, and overall skill level can be a bit annoying at times

[trail tartan]

I honestly only play online with friends or when here has a room going.

[mint mural]

Yeah true

[burnt spoke]

again, i don’t play much online with randoms i just noticed some tracks just didnt appear in my play sessions but it could very well just be bad luck

[mint mural]

There are 88 tracks

That pick 3 at a time

I mean, for the first month and a half of Wave 5s release I never got a single track from the pack online

It was kinda surreal honestly, felt like the thing never released

[burnt spoke]

88/3 is a bit less than 30 i think ive done more than 30 races

[lusty citrus]

Say what you wanna say bud

[mint mural]

dude seriously doesnt believe him

[inland gyro]

Yeah online does fake randomness

Its different for everyone it seems but some tracks constantly show up while others barely appear

[inland gyro]

Every Mario Kart 7 Course Ranked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ecf_7jKZHI

finally someone agrees with me MK7 is the GOAT

[karmic tangle]

did he say that

[daring moss]

None in D tier

Lunguini raceway should have been lower

City should have been a bit higher (looks pretty)

Mario Circuit in B bruh

Uh uh no no

Anyways my own relevant MK7 ranking

This is from a while ago past me had terrible opinions

I should kill past me

[karmic tangle]

7 actually has a really solid track list

[daring moss]

so true

Wuhu Loop should have been in base 8

[urban musk]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-luigi-superstar-saga-rpg-mario-and-luigi-gif-18848593

[karmic tangle]

sorry I cant remember the bowser tracks

[timid shadow]

7's Bowser's Castle is pretty cool but it falls a little flat compared to most others

[mint mural]

I wish that 7s Bowsers Castle was in 8

I remember watchung a video on how it was theorized to be in the game but got replaced by Wii Grumble Volcano

[jovial orbit]

There's still a chance

[lusty citrus]

7s bowser castle is pretty mid tbh

But i mean

It's a bowser's castle

You can't go wrong with one

[trail tartan]

I wish ANY Bowser's Castle were in 8 Deluxe alongside 8's own one. Fix this, Wave 6!

[lusty citrus]

When mario kart 7 nitros are bad they are either mediocre or toad circuit.

But when they are good, they are GOOD

Making multiple tiers is boring just have this unorganized ass list of the tracks i like and don't like

[trail tartan]

I still would like Rosalina's Ice World to come back provided they added Half Pipes to it.

[lusty citrus]

Yeah, i felt they'd do that if they do bring it back

[timid shadow]

A lot of 7's tracks have some cool ideas just not really brought to their fullest

Rosalina's Ice World came out in the wrong game. It doesn't have halfpipes like it would if it was in Wii, and a Rosalina-themed track with antigrav would fit right into Mario Kart 8.

[mint mural]

Realistically speaking, it’s kinda fuckin crazy we are already on Wave 6 of the BCP, meaning it’s been a year and a half since the pack was initially revealed

I don’t think I’ve ever been so hyped before

Like it’s insane we are on the final wave

Time flies when you are having fun

[inland gyro]

wholesome take

[urban musk]

you're right...it's too wholesome...
Probably gonna need to talk about why MK8D is the worst Mario Kart game and show that Nintendo is completely worse than EA

[daring moss]

It doesn’t have R.O.B. 0/10 game

[shell copper]

It has no cloud kart to go with playable Lakitu. 0/10.

[mint mural]

It's not a cloud game and doesn't require you to connect to the internet even for offline play. 0/10.

[daring moss]

What did they mean by this?

[karmic tangle]

How is waluigi at bottom

https://tenor.com/view/waluigi-mario-rose-dance-gif-12669242

[mint mural]

I'm still trying to figure out what the prompt even means

[karmic tangle]

Urban dictionary!

[azure mist]

Waluigi should not be on the bottom, and the babies should not be ANYWHERE on the list, let alone near the top

[mint mural]

if thats the case why the hell are the babies as high as they are

[eternal violet]

because it could also mean being bold/fierce in a feminine way or something like that

Still don't know why they're that high tho

[mint mural]

That makes sense, but like you said, again, why the hell are they so high up. They are babies

[somber oak]

They serve insult to injury when they win

[jovial orbit]

Wave 5 DLC spotlights have begun

[shell copper]

I'ven't been keeping track; how long after the last of said spotlights do we get more information/the release of the next (or in this case, final) wave?

[burnt spoke]

not sure, but i believe it’s like a week or so

could be wrong, i haven’t been keeping track either

[shell copper]

Okay, just got done checking my Switch News app to see when each spotlight started and ended, and checking the Mario Wiki to see when each wave released, and, assuming my Switch has the correct dates for the respective articles and I didn't make any errors... there's no consistency. Wave 2 released a month after the last Wave 1 spotlight, Wave 3 released during the Wave 2 spotlights (which were apparently stretched out between September '22 and February '23), same with Wave 4 during Wave 3's spotlights, and Wave 5 released 9 days after the last Wave 4 spotlight.

[mint mural]

The trailer for Wave 6 is probably gonna be after the final US spotlight

[daring moss]

Well now it is

[trail tartan]

I'm actually confident myself that Wave 6 will release around when Tour's first no-more-new-content Tour comes out myself.

[jovial orbit]

Definitely before Thanksgiving

[orchid shadow]

So when's that?

[mint mural]

Well then it will be within the next two weeks

The no new content tours started today

It’s a shame

Great game

Niche community

[jovial orbit]

American Thanksgiving, which is what I was referring to, is on the 4th Thursday of November, so November 23rd.
Canadian Thanksgiving (from a quick Google search) is on the second Monday of October, so next Monday. That definitely feels too soon given the pattern with the DLC track spotlights, although I could see the trailer coming out with the end of the current Tour in two weeks.

[orchid shadow]

Ah, so around 20th you're thinking the last DLC could drop?