Mario Kart Klub

[karmic tangle]

What's so great about Mario kart Wii, seems like people only like it for the super shortcut high level play .. or the nostalgia

[trail tartan]

...I may do itemless GP runs a fair bit in 8 Deluxe and get the 3 Stars reliably...

[somber finch]

Mario Kart Wii is better than Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.

[urban musk]

You mean aside the fact that a lot of people here have a Wii as their first system?
Good roster, introduction of fun mechanics and bikes, solid tracks and music.

[burnt spoke]

nah i think character specifc items enforce chaos. fighting each other for an item brings chaos

and then there’s one person who chooses petey or king boo to be chaos incarnate and have access to all of them

[urban musk]

Can't bombs only if only 1 character has bombs though...

[trail tartan]

I do like it's Nitros a whole lot as far as most Nitro selections go. That's one big reason. I'll happily admit the other is indeed nostalgia.

[burnt spoke]

oh yeah speaking of which im so glad bob-ombs became a standard item

[somber finch]

Too bad they got rid of Mario Kart 64 Battle stuff like turning into a bomb when you lose all your balloons.

[trail tartan]

Nah, disagree. I want the chaos in the game, not outside it

[urban musk]

I can agree with that.

[burnt spoke]

not sure what could go to wario and waluigi nowadays outside of dual bob-omb

[urban musk]

Garlic

[somber finch]

Though with Mario Kart 64, the lack of tracks does show nowadays.

Even Super Mario Kart had more tracks than it.

[trail tartan]

DS letting you drive as a ghost that could still grab item boxes and attack players too...I really miss Last Man Standing rules for battle mode...

[burnt spoke]

actually didn’t it let you place more item boxes

[somber finch]

The bomb player making you lose, we call that sabotage.

[trail tartan]

Wii ruined Battle Mode.

Hot take. Wii's Battle Mode is worse than vanilla 8's, purely cos of forced teams on top everything else.

[urban musk]

I'm going to guess they didn't bring back last man standing because of the same reason they put people in a car on Mario Party.
"It's not fun getting eliminated and watching everyone else play"

Which I disagree with whole-heartedly.

[trail tartan]

Options fix that though. Keep points for standard online and the option to invoke last man standing as a custom ruleset.

[karmic tangle]

Idk, people are ride or die on mk Wii
Best one bar none, can't be topped

[somber finch]

I wouldn't say Wii ruined Battle Mode, but it most definitely didn't make it better, Mario Kart DS is peak Battle Mode.

[urban musk]

That one I just put in the "This was my first Mario Kart" category.

[karmic tangle]

I really liked DS battle mode

[trail tartan]

And you could play it on a DS.

[somber finch]

And a 3DS

[urban musk]

No dispute here.
But they don't.
Not wholly sure why other than they don't want to put forth the effort in the rule modification and having the bomb karts run and done.
Those require distinct lines of code.

[halcyon arrow]

Hi Steel

[urban musk]

Hey, Rac

[trail tartan]

No. There was no 3DS map.

[somber finch]

And likewise there was no Wii map, Nintendo 64 map, GameCube map, or Super Nintendo map.

[burnt spoke]

uh

there was a gamecube

[somber finch]

There's a GameCube track? On what game?

[karmic tangle]

And people also feel, or used to feel similarly about Mario kart 64 .. which sucks 🤭 game sucks!

[burnt spoke]

i’ll let you think about that one

[karmic tangle]

Battle mode map?

[somber finch]

Nah, I'm good, no need to.

[somber finch]

You say this when it's the longest running Mario Kart game for competitive play.

[burnt spoke]

nope

wii

[urban musk]

You take that back, you monster!
Nah but actually there's truth in that.

[somber finch]

Not really though.

[somber finch]

Mario Kart 64 is older than the Wii.

[karmic tangle]

If you include Speedrunning sure
I don't think people speed run snes nearly as much

[burnt spoke]

yes and people don’t play 64 competitive

[somber finch]

That you know of.

[burnt spoke]

unless speedrunning the time trials counts

[somber finch]

Let's see if it's still played, going to actually look this up.

[urban musk]

Gotta get those Rainbow Road and Wario Stadium exploit times down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfjPTCrCC1M

[burnt spoke]

damn

[karmic tangle]

[urban musk]

Internet Rule #149.
If it's a game, there's a tournament of it.

Not a real rule, don't verify that

[karmic tangle]

Eggbert

I wish

[somber finch]

I just looked at that video title.

[burnt spoke]

where are my rhythm heaven fever tournaments then dork

[somber finch]

Rhythm what?

That's a game?

[urban musk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB69U2DeHjM

Best I can do for ya.

[burnt spoke]

mods can we ban him

[somber finch]

I've never heard of Rhythm Heaven, guess I'll look it up.

[urban musk]

On Wii and 3DS...and I think DS

[burnt spoke]

doesn’t count that’s not a tournament

[urban musk]

But it can be

[burnt spoke]

rhythm tengoku (GBA, never released outside of japan)
rhythm heaven (DS)
rhythm heaven fever (Wii)
rhythm heaven megamix (3DS)

[somber finch]

https://youtu.be/mC1XaWG8mPs

Interesting game

I never did find all the Wii games and they would probably be really hard to find now.

I would like to take a minute to start a new topic, who is everyone's Mario Kart main?

[burnt spoke]

villager girl

she’s cute

also kamek recently

[somber finch]

Mine has been Yoshi since Super Mario Kart, but Mario Kart 8 Deluxe might have me using Petey Piranha now.

Will definitely give it a go.

I still have yet to try Wiggler too.

[lusty citrus]

What if

Luma went back to following rosa

Like in wii

I would LOVE that

[urban musk]

Depends on the cc.
Ususally Shy Guy though.

[warped aspen]

Fair, I just wanted to replace Baby Rosalina as a light weight

[lusty citrus]

I also find it interesting how you added in mario movie spike

[warped aspen]

Yeah, that's just using his movie design since that's going to be the one most people recognize

[urban musk]

It's better than his original one imho

[burnt spoke]

what if characters had purchasable skins using coins to give coins a purpose outside of race and unlocking car parts at certain milestones (very original concept i know)

[urban musk]

Then I'd wonder when Activision picked up the MK license

[burnt spoke]

not using real money

[urban musk]

Isn't that just MK Tour now?

[burnt spoke]

what

every character skin in tour is a separate character

i mean a menu pop-up when selecting the character

like the color selection for yoshi

and shy guy

and birdo

etc

[urban musk]

There's fundamentally no difference other than how it's presented to you.

[burnt spoke]

would you rather tanooki mario has his own slot

[urban musk]

That's not the point I'm making at all

[burnt spoke]

ok ok let me rephrase

[lusty citrus]

Okay so there's a shop and with the coins you get in game, you can get costumes?

Like...no monetization at all just

In game unlockables

[burnt spoke]

give a use to the coins you pick up in races. they don’t do anything outside of unlocking car parts (and you don’t even get to choose) picture that same concept with driver costumes that you do get to choose. on top of that, you don’t have to either a) grind for the currency, or b) buy money

yes exactly that

[lusty citrus]

I HAVE ALWAYS LIKED THIS IDEA

Cool to see someone thinking the same way

[burnt spoke]

it’s not like it’s the most original idea

[lusty citrus]

True

[burnt spoke]

i just think it’d also give a fun bonus to the coins

[lusty citrus]

Yeah

[burnt spoke]

and another use for all those character but X models they have in tour

though one thing it might clash with is character colors

would yoshi get costumes on top of colors or does he just get colors

same with toad

would they introduce toad colors or does toad get captain toad skin

[lusty citrus]

Kangaroo yoshi in mario kart 8

[woeful stump]

never thought about it like that

[lusty citrus]

Adding special items again to mario ksrt is like adding special dice blocks in super mario party

[burnt spoke]

special items are so fun i want them back

[lusty citrus]

What i would do is make some special items normal

Like the heart

The heart is such a cool item

And maybe give characters new ones

For like characters that don't hsve mind blowing ones

[burnt spoke]

ice flower being standard item would be so cool

[lusty citrus]

YES

[burnt spoke]

but it might be a little broken if it worked like the fire flower outside of tour

[lusty citrus]

I want the ice flower in i so bad

It's such a cool item

[burnt spoke]

because imagine a projectile that freezes you being able to be spammed

[lusty citrus]

Istg that half of mario kart's items are veey similiar to others but i the ice flower is a really cool concept

[lusty citrus]

Ajd ot can slide you off track

I think

[burnt spoke]

yeah it stops your controls for a bit

which is why being spammable could make it broken

[lusty citrus]

If i could add 2 items to mario kart 8? It would definitely be the heart and ice flower

[burnt spoke]

i think a good way to nerf it is to give it a slower fire rate than the fire flower

[lusty citrus]

What if they changed it from 10 to 5-6 spammable hits

It'll make it less broken

[burnt spoke]

that also

but i think slower fire rate would work pretty well on it’s own

tbh i kinda want the ice flower and hammers

[lusty citrus]

The hammer is a weird one but it's cool

I forgot how it works

[burnt spoke]

you throw them in an upward arc

might actually not be very good lol

one hope i have is that they bring back thunder cloud but adjust it a little

like, for a example, let you choose when to use it rather than using itself immediately when you get it

maybe it can protect you from an item but it goes away immediately after the hit

idk

and like obviously not all items can be blocked

[lusty citrus]

That could be...interesting, but it would still be pretty risky

Also do you have any images of the entire 8 deluxe roster, feeling like making a fanmade roster rn but i got nothing on me

[burnt spoke]

not sure how this would work, but what if thunder cloud could absorb lightning, but each time it absorbed one, it sped up the timer

so you would keep your speed, but you’d have less time to pass it to someone else

[lusty citrus]

Mayybe a tad bit too complicated

[lusty citrus]

Mk8's roster without babies, clones, crossovers and the mii

[keen ice]

Would this be Wart's model if he was in Mario Kart?
or would he have a different model.

[somber finch]

That probably would be.

New characters are added to Mario Kart with each new game, but the fate of Wart is somewhat unknown since he only ever appeared Super Mario Bros 2 to my knowledge.

Unless he's in Mario Odyssey, haven't played that yet.

[keen ice]

He’s latest appearance was in the Link’s Awakening remake. Where he took the name of “Mamu.” The interesting part is Wart has only appeared in games that took place in Dream Worlds

[urban musk]

Which is why people are falling over themselves trying to put him in Mario Wonder

[lusty citrus]

This lowkey feels like it would also be a youtooz figurine

[lusty citrus]

Oh yeah, from what i get mamu was his name in the japanese version of mario usa

Mario bros 2 is an interesting game

[lusty citrus]

Favorite city track?

[urban musk]

I'm in the minority but Bangkok

[halcyon arrow]

Athens

[timid shadow]

Sydney

[lusty citrus]

Bangkok is like a love hate relationship to me

[lusty citrus]

Sydney is...decent, it's 2nd lap and music are amazing, but the other laps are eh

They're pretty short i'd say

[timid shadow]

I don't really know why I like it, I just do

A lot of city tracks have really weird spots where the different routes intersect with blind turns and stuff like that, (heck even some just have them normally) but Sydney doesn't really have that problem

[urban musk]

Understandable.
I do like how largely different it feels from the other city tracks.

[lusty citrus]

I'll never understand why some people say "all city tracks are the same" when it never feels like that to me...that is like saying every real life place is the exact same

[timid shadow]

A lot of them have long stretches of mostly nothing

Mostly the early wave ones

Tokyo, London, Berlin, not much going on there

[urban musk]

Driving on standard roads everywhere may play a part in that as well.
I get they are cities and that's kind of the schtick, but that is a natural consequence of that.

[lusty citrus]

I mean, yeah...in the ones from waves 1-3 there's not much going on, but london and berlin have never felt bad to me

[urban musk]

That's a bit of a different claim though.
You can think they feel samey but that's not quite the same as saying they are bad.

[timid shadow]

I love Berlin but hate London

[lusty citrus]

I still don't feel they're samey tho lmao

Specially berlin cuz it's got moving cars banger music and communism.

[timid shadow]

Yeah Berlin's cool

[lusty citrus]

London is okay but it feels like it drags on and on

[timid shadow]

London's kinda like everything wrong with city tracks

[lusty citrus]

Cuz all it rewlly has is chain chomps and a bridge

[timid shadow]

Exactly, it's so long with nothing memorable

[urban musk]

Don't even go up Big Ben

[timid shadow]

The music is painfully average

[timid shadow]

Gliding around Big Ben would be cool

[lusty citrus]

I wouldn't say london is bad by any means, but it's like...one of the ones i'd play on the least

[urban musk]

It was supposed to be an homage to Britain's history regarding Rock music but it hits generic

[lusty citrus]

I get that the u.k is known for it's rock music, but london is just not it

[timid shadow]

Yeah I know why it is what it is but it just sounds like Rock Rock Mountain but different to me, and it's so high energy for a low energy track

[lusty citrus]

That's a thing i love about city tracks' music

They all try to resemble styles from their respective nations and stuff

[urban musk]

The music is why I like Berlin.
Nice homage to the classical composers

I think New York tried to grab on to the Jazz scene but I haven't been on it in a "Minute" so I can't quite remember

[lusty citrus]

I like berlin cuz it's got gpod music, moving cars which for some reason no other city tracks do (looking at new york) and i actually like it's layout lmao

[timid shadow]

Berlin's one of the best songs no doubt

[lusty citrus]

Definitely, since techno and classical music are both popular german music styles

[timid shadow]

I love traffic tracks but lap 2 of Berlin's a little long and boring

[lusty citrus]

Early city tracks always had long laps lmao

I like berlin's

[timid shadow]

I like Berlin as well, but I see why some don't like it

[lusty citrus]

I'd compare berlin to sidney where both got banger music and long 2nd laps, but everything else inbetween is just eh

[lusty citrus]

Weirdly i've seen a lot of people liking it (aside of youtubers for some reason), someone even put it in their top 10

[timid shadow]

I think that's a bit much but it's not a bad track by any means

[lusty citrus]

Yeah

I'd put berlin on b or low a

However...can we talk about the waves 4-5 city tracks ???

They OUTDID themselves with those

[timid shadow]

Yeah they're all great

[lusty citrus]

They really left the boring ones for those lmao

Just gonna say

I am a big lover of wave 4's city tracks

[timid shadow]

I disagree, Amsterdam exists

[lusty citrus]

Amsterdam is my favorite

[timid shadow]

That's an interesting opinion

I don't dislike it but I think it's the weakest of wave 4

[lusty citrus]

I'd stil consider it a decent track but for some reason i really like it, i love the music, the constant layout changes from water to land, the setting having those big houses, farms and canals, the water section using pipes is also really fun and i love the tulips in lap 3 (altough you could arfue they're pretty low poly but eh...booster course stuff)

And i also really like it's turns

Specially at the end of lap 3

[timid shadow]

Yeah yeah it's a fine track

Thinking about it more I can see how it'd be someone's favorite

[lusty citrus]

Weirdly though i'd still consider it a decent track

And i know other cities are better

But i just really like it lmao

[timid shadow]

Yeah, that's how I feel with Sydney too

[lusty citrus]

So i always put it at b altough i always replay it

[timid shadow]

Sydney's my favorite, but I think so far, Singapore's the best city track

Either Singapore or Athens

[lusty citrus]

SINGAPORE THOUGH. Singapore is what electrodrome wish it was

[timid shadow]

I... kinda see that. They go for different things and both accomplish them well imo

[lusty citrus]

Singapore is like...peak simple course design for a bcp track, it's actually a track with a lot of simple but fun drive throughs, and some banger music and theming

Electrodrome has like...a cool theming, but it's layout is horrifying i hate it so bad

[timid shadow]

I strongly disagree

[lusty citrus]

Yeah, a wide ass track acompannied with the usual mk8 nitro split tracks which don't have any differences at all, so why even put them there....

[timid shadow]

I'm starting to find Electrodrome to be a pretty divisive track for the community

[lusty citrus]

All it's got is the theming

[timid shadow]

I find it really satisfying to drive

Especially in 200

One of my favorites in 200

[lusty citrus]

I mean, that's nice

[timid shadow]

It just feels smooth

[lusty citrus]

I don't really feel that though but it's got some nice sound effects to it

[timid shadow]

Yeah

It is really simple layout wise

[lusty citrus]

Altough when you go off track to those metal looking things it sounds like hell lol

It's like screeching chalk in a chalkboard

[timid shadow]

I actually don't know what you're talking about

[lusty citrus]

The thing larry is driving on

[timid shadow]

Oh

Hmm

I can almost think of how it sounds...

Yeah, I think I got it. That's fair

[lusty citrus]

I don't hate simple layouts but electrodrome is the worst case scenario for one if you ask me

[timid shadow]

Interesting

[lusty citrus]

I mean...i will give it something, which is that it actually uses anti gravity for something

Unlike most tracks in this game

[timid shadow]

Yeah... especially after the BCP

[lusty citrus]

The bcp does use anti gravity pretty well though

The vancouver bridge, 3ds rainbow road and koopa cape are all pretty nice examples

[timid shadow]

Yeah I mean like it all uses it in places that work... but those sections usually could work fine without them

[lusty citrus]

Oh shit true.

Altough the 3ds rr one is really cool since it lets you float

[timid shadow]

3DS RR and Vancouver are like, perfect anti-grav sections, Koopa Cave didn't really need it, Rock Rock MIGHT'VE worked without it but I think the physics might mean that getting hit without anti-grav would make you fall pretty far. Boo Lake works pretty well, Merry Mountain's the same case as Rock Rock, and Waluigi Stadium was at least pretty unique

Am I missing any?

Oh, Sky-high Sundae. Might be another Rock Rock situation where some parts are too steep to be comfortably driven without it.

Plus, underwater physics, so I guess that's why as well

[lusty citrus]

Like, the thing for koopa cape's to me is that i find it cool because it actually adds something cool and mario kart 8 deluxe like, instead of it bring the same as mario kart 7

[timid shadow]

Yeah it works. Not saying it was a bad addition, I'd rather have it than not have it

[lusty citrus]

And i also like that how it's anti grav, it's got half pipes and poles on it

I love how they added the half pipe in there

The bcp's cape feels like a mix of wii's, 7's with a pinch of 8dx in it...

And also less scaling for some reason

[timid shadow]

Actually, on the subject of Koopa Cape pipe, I've heard people say they miss the Koopa Zappers, but I'm actually glad they left them out. If they kept they while adding anti-grav, the halfpipe, and the boost poles, it would be WAY too cramped and chaotic (which it already kind of is)

[lusty citrus]

Yeah

I do really like how koopa cape got massively down scaled though

It makes racing more chaotic simce you can get hit by items easier

And i like chaos.

Atleast it's not wario shipyard levels of tightness too...

[timid shadow]

Do you have trouble getting items on Koopa Cape? Cause I sure as hell do

Even in Wii it's hard for me

[lusty citrus]

Nah, i never do

But overall? I'd say 8's koopa cape is the 2nd best iteration of the track...best one being the original

It's so usual for wii tracks' retros to not be better than the originals, it's like if nintendo wanted to sabotage themselves

[timid shadow]

I call it the Koopa Curse... I can never get the ones on the first half pipe or the ones in the river

[timid shadow]

Yeah it's great

It'd be difficult to screw up something so good

[lusty citrus]

You know...another thing i feel is a reason i like koopa cape's pipe having anti gravity is that like

It just feels right having it outside of the more natural part with grass and stuff

You get what i mean?

[timid shadow]

I think so

Like the pipe is sort of man-made compared to everything else

So the anti-grav fits there

[lusty citrus]

Yeahhh

Exactly

[timid shadow]

Which is actually pretty in line with the base tracks, look at like Cloudtop Cruise and Wario Stadium for example

[lusty citrus]

Yeah...

[timid shadow]

Or Sunshine Airport

[lusty citrus]

Not going to like cloudtop is one of the few 8 nitros i actually like but that part does feel kind of off

[timid shadow]

Most anti-grav sections are on man-made, like futuristic portions of the track

[lusty citrus]

Cuz you're arround clouds and koopa battleships and stuff...and then you just go through a giant metal part out of nowhere

[timid shadow]

I get that, but it makes me think, what would be a more fitting replacement?

[lusty citrus]

I dunno...maybe some giant thunder cloud could feel more natural i guess

[lusty citrus]

This one feels really off too...you can't have some random ass flying metal thing in the middle of an AIRPORT where planes go through

And well, giant metal flying things in general feel pretty off

[timid shadow]

Yeah that one actually always felt weird to me

Kind of an excuse to shoe-horn in anti-grav

[lusty citrus]

EXACTLY

It's like mario ksrt 7 tracks...they unnecesarily add up things they don't need ingame in the first place

[timid shadow]

This might be a bit goofy, but imagine the road like coursing with electricity to fit the thundercloud aesthetic

[lusty citrus]

now they do the same for the bcp with half pipes but the fact half pipes have been ignored for so long makes me like it anyway lmao

[lusty citrus]

I actually like that idea a lot

[inland gyro]

Athens

[trail tartan]

Agreed on Athens. In fact, I'll give my order of them all.

1: Athens
2: Amsterdam...this'll be a hot take, I bet.
3: Vancouver
4: Sydney
5: Singapore
6: Paris
7: Bangkok
8: Berlin
9: Los Angeles
10: London
11: New York
12: Tokyo

Will do the "Nitros" from basically Tour as well.

1: Yoshi's Island
2: Ninja Hideaway
3: Squeaky Clean Sprint
4: Merry Mountain
5: Sky High Sundae

[inland gyro]

for me it'd be..
(while making this short list i realised it doesn't really match up with my tier list from yesterday lol)

[trail tartan]

My tier list has a small change too. lol

[inland gyro]

i think it's just sometimes i feel so much nothing for a track that they all kind of blur together, does that make sense ?

[trail tartan]

Vancouver actually feel down a bit as Lap 3 IMO is honestly a little meh to me the more I play the track.

[inland gyro]

like amsterdam, bangkok, london, los angeles, yoshi island... they're all like... i'm fine with them

they all can change places interchangeably

actually no yoshi is better than that idk why i placed it so low

wait no it's good actually

ahhhrgh it's so hard

[lusty citrus]

Why does everyone put LA laps so low

I like it's beach and oil section a lot

I guess it's cuz of lap 2?

[jovial orbit]

Didn't the time of day get changed?

[lusty citrus]

I mean...yeah

But it's not that bad..?

LA laps in day still looks nice

It's not like sunset wilds where it's whole ass gimmick got killed off and everybody hated that

I get that

[inland gyro]

lap 2 is generic

part of lap 1 is generic

wanted more beach

hell give me idk a glider section over the hollywood sign ??

isn't that in LA

[lusty citrus]

Bruh

[inland gyro]

i don't know american geography

[lusty citrus]

Ge got one over a stadium right

[inland gyro]

yeah and it's a cool one i'll admit

no but also idk it doesn't do a lot for me

i was mostly waiting for LA for the music and the new remix isn't exactly to my taste so idk

[lusty citrus]

I don't mind the city parts in LA cuz i find them nice, specially that part where you can choose from a booster ramp or double items

[inland gyro]

the small beach part we got for LA was nice i wish we got a bit more

[lusty citrus]

Erm...actually

The beach part in la laps is not actually la

It's based off santa monica

[inland gyro]

once again idk the US geography

[lusty citrus]

Yeah i was about to say "nintendo doesn't know the us geography either" but i felt it might've been too salty

[inland gyro]

wait hollywood is totally in los angeles

[lusty citrus]

Yeah

[inland gyro]

why isn't that in the track

what

[lusty citrus]

It is

[inland gyro]

what the hell it's the only thing i know about los angeles

it is ?

i didn't see the sign anywhere

[lusty citrus]

Actually

Yeah

Why didn't they add that

maybe because a portion of the track is santa monica LMAO

[inland gyro]

nintendo meeting
-ok we're gonna add los angeles to the game what landmarks could we add
-the hollywood sig-
-AN OIL RIG FIELD

[lusty citrus]

I mean

Oil rig fields must be common in america...

It's the land of capitalism anyways

[inland gyro]

i definitely want to see oil rigs in my fantasy fun mario kart game

[shell copper]

Need to fuel the karts somehow, right?

[inland gyro]

nonsense the motors work with hydrogen

or something

[shell copper]

Alright, let's say it's for the Mount Wario starting helicopter instead.

[inland gyro]

makes sense

[lusty citrus]

Yeah...

My mario fantasy game...

remembers new donk city exists

[forest orbit]

Actually, the karts directly respond to the input of money with fire from the exhaust pipes. They're using money as fuel.

[lusty citrus]

and that in a lot of mediums mario comes from brooklyn

No excuses whatsoever i want communism in mario kart

[lusty citrus]

Like if they were archade machines i guess

[forest orbit]

Or TF2's Mann VS. Machine robots.

[lusty citrus]

Yeah

[inland gyro]

mushrooms make the tires spin faster

how do they use the mushrooms

man for a long time i thought that cars moved because of propulsion
like stuff going out of the exhaust

that's videogames for you

when i admitted to my mom i had no idea how cars worked she had that look on her face, you know the one

[lusty citrus]

Isn't it like

You put the fuel on the car and you put the cap on it

[inland gyro]

it's just, the engine makes the wheel rotate

the wheels are what makes the car go

[lusty citrus]

Well duh

Can't have a car without weels

And an engine

[inland gyro]

yeah well once again blame videogames, blame uhh fucking space rockets

blame fire coming out of exhaust making me think cars work on propulsion much like rockets do

[lusty citrus]

Imagine if thst was the case...

Imagine the car accidents...

[trail tartan]

While visually distinct a fair bit, I just...don't like the track for racing on too much. Don't click for me in any of the three sections for racing on.

[lusty citrus]

Fair, i suppose

Also what the hell do you mean by a bit

Yeah you know what

I don't even want to know

[lusty citrus]

New tier list time...it might he too early to make a new tier list, but i think i've heard enough track criticisms to make up some of my mind

[inland gyro]

oh dip bone dry at the very bottom ?

what's wrong with it

dry dry desert i'd understand but bone dry is better than dry dry in every way imo

[lusty citrus]

OH SHIT I FORGOT TO SAY

It's not ordered

[lusty citrus]

I should've put it on d...i'll just change that, but i really do not care for it lmao

[inland gyro]

ohhh

[slate obsidian]

Based Ninji and Poochy

[lusty citrus]

Ninji's a cool character ngl

[slate obsidian]

Santa Monica is LA County tho

[lusty citrus]

Also...why is everyone removing dry bowser ?? He's lowkey the only "clone" i like lmao

[lusty citrus]

Oh sorry i don't rrally know much about american geography either (i'm latin american) and the guy that told me is canadian

[slate obsidian]

I'm a native Southern Californian, so if anyone knows anything about LA, it's me

[lusty citrus]

Amazing

Also, i told a friend about the fact they didn't include hollywood in the track and they said it might've been cuz yknow...actors and their copyright

But i mean

What if they just made some up

I guess that could work

[slate obsidian]

The course debuted in Tour LONG before the writers strike started

If that's what you're talking about

[lusty citrus]

Idk what that is

But yeah la was one of the first city tracks i think

[slate obsidian]

Oh, the movie writers are on strike rn because they want better pay

[urban musk]

Nothing to do with the strike.
Dust is talking about having the Hollywood Walk of Fame in the track with real celebrity's names.

[lusty citrus]

Yeah, exactly

[slate obsidian]

The stars probably wouldn't be detailed enough to make out names on them

[urban musk]

Depends.
There are plenty of instances in games that you can make out small text.
Especially with boundary breaking.

[slate obsidian]

But yeah, apparently the movie studios are so shitty that they said that they're not gonna give in to the writers and said they'll just wait until they lose their homes and apartments. What total assholes

[lusty citrus]

I don't think that "not detailing them enough" would work...like that time mintendo added a really well hidden easter egg of an image of a sailor moon manga in punch out for the wii

And they got sued for it.

[slate obsidian]

If you can't read a name, the the name technically isn't there

[urban musk]

But the Walk of Fame would be

Which is the important part

[trail tartan]

...I don't know the exact details, but even having a Nintendo themed parady of it to avoid IRL names could potentially be dancing on the line if a strike is related to it.

[lusty citrus]

Yeah, mayhe they just won't risk it no mstter how small it is

...and even if they did add it players would bicker about the names being too small

[slate obsidian]

The Walk of Fame and the writers strike have nothing to do with each other

[urban musk]

Unless LA Laps get a hazard with a bunch of protestors outside the studio

[lusty citrus]

Toads protesting for their right to get treated well?

[slate obsidian]

Not true. Nobody's complained that Dodgers Stadium just says "Stadium" on it in the course

[lusty citrus]

I'm on

That is just stupid

[urban musk]

I'm complaining because Brooklyn Dodgers was just catchier.

But that's something else

[lusty citrus]

Brooklyn dodgers

[trail tartan]

...well, someone has complained now. lol

[slate obsidian]

It is not, Nintendo would have to pay a ton of money to use the name "Dodgers Stadium"

[lusty citrus]

I mean like

[trail tartan]

Sluggers Stadium then. Reference the baseball games a bit.

[lusty citrus]

Why get angry over a stadium not having it's real nam

[urban musk]

based

[lusty citrus]

as if nintendo wanted to talk about those anymore lmao

[slate obsidian]

Why get angry over the stars on the walk of fame being illegible?

[urban musk]

Why get angry?

[trail tartan]

I mean...the stadium does use pictures of Mario and Bowser that seem to be from that series, right?

lol

[lusty citrus]

Cuz you wouldn't be even able to see the stars correctly and they'd say is some bad porting shir

[lusty citrus]

Yeah

Butvprob only that instance

[slate obsidian]

Then don't put names on them at all then

[urban musk]

I'd still put scribbles

That or Nintendo character names

[lusty citrus]

EXACTLY

[trail tartan]

If there isn't anything in the way of including the hall of fame besides IRL names, then why not do as I said and Nintendo-theme it.

[lusty citrus]

Maybe ig but nintendo wouldn't wanna put many references over other franchises they have...unless it's mario characters themselves

[trail tartan]

The Stars are Starmen, then you've got characters like King Bob-omb or Cranky Kong getting names.

[slate obsidian]

Point is, there's MANY ways they could do the walk of fame without breaking copyright

[slate obsidian]

You know how many Mario characters there are? They have enough to make the walk of fame all Mario characters

[lusty citrus]

Like? Give me some

Can we put fawful in there actually

[woeful stump]

mario

[urban musk]

They would probably just do characters that you'd already find on the roster

[lusty citrus]

Maybe that would be too much but i can see them doing him

[slate obsidian]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characters_in_the_Mario_franchise

[urban musk]

If they were cool, they'd grab a bunch of characters that aren't in the game.

[lusty citrus]

Like cappy lmao

[trail tartan]

Yeah. Like I said, Cranky Kong and King Bob-omb are a couple that'd be neat.

[woeful stump]

this page sucks it doesnt even have Bowser

[urban musk]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-bros-fattyaroobian-bowser-aroobian-gif-23068465

[woeful stump]

thats what im talkin about

[slate obsidian]

@slate obsidian @slate obsidian

Why did I ping myself twice

[urban musk]

You just wanna know

[trail tartan]

Oh god, he's @ing himself!

[woeful stump]

he hungers for more pings

[slate obsidian]

I didn't even mean to lol

[woeful stump]

cant fool me thats not from the same page clearly

[slate obsidian]

I misclicked

[woeful stump]

this page doesnt even have Bowser

[slate obsidian]

Bruh

It is

It's under the antagonists tab

[woeful stump]

idk why wikipedia would completely ignore bowser but add bowser jr.

thats pretty weird

[slate obsidian]

Speci, stop being a troll

[woeful stump]

???

[trail tartan]

But...Speci's being an Ivysaur. Trolls are completely different!

[slate obsidian]

And I'm being a poorly-drawn Slowpoke

And you're being a UFO named Jobski (only part time tho, of course)

Cosplaying as Klonoa

[slate obsidian]

Idk, Ivysaurs DO have somewhat troll-like faces

Not saying that as a jab at Ivysaur either. I actually adore the Bulbasaur line

[trail tartan]

I disagree.

[slate obsidian]

And apparently the Bulbasaur line adores me as well if Pokémon Sleep is any indication

I still can't believe it's shiny lol

[karmic tangle]

i can

seeing is believing

[keen ice]

https://youtu.be/-NEGppvvxpc

This would be a fun addition as a Track. Mulitple Paths, Going from Day to Night, with Multiple Koopa's try to take the Racers down. The Koopas can even be unique for this Track Alone.

[karmic tangle]

anyone gonna be up in an hour? i wanna test something in mk8

[halcyon arrow]

Bro it's 2am

I'm making breakfast tmr u want me to mail it too u?

[karmic tangle]

yea

[jovial orbit]

I'd rather think about why there's a suspension bridge with a sign just labeled 'Suspension Bridge' on Vancouver Velocity.

[inland gyro]

they're in love they've got matching karts and everything man this is beautiful

[trail tartan]

Going to be likely playing Wave 5 with IRL friends today. Ideas for mixing up the racing after the first 8 races?

[inland gyro]

i like me some blue shells + triple mushroom only

it's quite fun

[inland gyro]

why did mario kart ds have Dry Bones

such a weird ass choice in retrospect

about as odd as Wiggler but no one questions it

[timid shadow]

DS didn't have Koopa did it?

[inland gyro]

nope

[trail tartan]

Just gave Renegade Round-Up a shot online. First time doing it with other human players.

...and yeah, I LOVE that particular mode!

[eternal violet]

Because dry bones is cooler than koopa

[trail tartan]

Oh, fun fact BTW from my attempt to go backwards on the Wave 5 tracks.

[woeful stump]

every mario kart gotta have at least 1 character thats an oddball

dry bones is rad

[trail tartan]

Los Angeles and Vancouver actually let you attempt to do so right away, unlike more other "different lap" tracks.

Not too surprised that Los Angeles lets you try, as it's really one long path since the finish line for each lap is different. But Vancouver letting you surprised me a lot.

[halcyon arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/curb-your-enthusiasm-larry-david-im-a-disgusting-man-gif-24341359

I would love to finally see Larry David become playable

[keen ice]

https://twitter.com/36srkn/status/1681313121837924352?s=20

シラス📣🐱 (@36srkn)

🏎️

Likes

931

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[trail tartan]

The character we need to turn this into a quartet is obvious.

Make the Pipe Frame a playable character!

For real though, I'd love that third one to become reality someday. Wiggler is a heavyweight, right? So that'd likely give us a Heavy, Medium and Light combo.

[somber oak]

I wouldn't be opposed to it

[inland gyro]

give us this little fellow and the kamek bike from mario kart wii

perfection

[somber oak]

Really, I agree that Diddy Kong and Pauline have top priority, but they're very uninteresting to me personally

Though thinking about it, I might be overestimating their chances.

[trail tartan]

Oh, the little fellow can't make it for Wave 6 IIRC sadly, given that it wouldn't be a returning character even from Tour.

They're a future game one to me. lol

[somber oak]

Biddybuddy could be in development just before Wave 6 drops and Nintendo would consider that a returning character, even if he has yet to appear in Tour

[trail tartan]

I agree that Diddy and Pauline are the most likely. Honestly, I'd probably riot if Funky got in without or before Diddy personally.

But if you ask me what characters I want, then it's...still Diddy, but also Paratroopa.

Mainly with a Spiny Blue Shell alt.

Also would bring along colour alts for Koopa too.

[somber oak]

One thing that might work against Diddy Kong and Pauline's favor are textures

So far, the models have been taken from Tour with little changes. It's especially noticable how flat the textures are on Petey Pirahna, though the motion and material in the petals somewhat make up for it.

This is not me criticizing the use of Tour models. I'm totally fine with that.

[trail tartan]

That doesn't really sound much like a factor against Diddy and Pauline to me and more a detail we'd need to accept whoever we get.

Cos whoever it is likely will use Tour stuff anyway.

[inland gyro]

call me crazy but i think toad and koopa alts are likely

some people think diddy and hammer bros are the last characters

i'd like that

[trail tartan]

OK, headed out so bbl. Will pitch this for the round 2 of Wave 5. lol

[somber oak]

I still think we're most likely getting Pauline and Diddy. Point I'm making is that the lower quality would be extra noticeable if their hair and fur textures are not or barely adressed.

One thing the four new characters have in common is that they don't have fur or hair, and I think this might be why.

[inland gyro]

kamek feels a tad low quality, i'll say

like low poly

weird textures

[somber oak]

That's because they're pretty much taken straight from Tour

[keen ice]

someone told me a Goomda Tower could work as a Playable character.

The bottom could drive
the middle holds items
and the top can be the watcher

[inland gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/what-if-marvel-marvel-studios-marvel-entertainment-disney-gif-19977112

ah yes the watcher

[somber oak]

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense for me that the sixth slot, which is on the row of exclusively guest character, could be R.O.B.'s

[inland gyro]

it could make sense

what if it's.. idk, boom-boom, and rob

cause the other row is koopaling row

[somber oak]

Just plop R.O.B. on the seat. Make him twist his arms left and right when steering, not touching the steering wheel at all. Wouldn't need different animations between karts and bikes/quads.

[inland gyro]

what would his tricks be ?

[somber oak]

And give him both the Famicom and NES skins for good measure.

Just imagine Famicom Robot's Standard Kart colors.

Not sure about tricks, but what I'm imagining is that he holds items between his arms like a gyro.

[inland gyro]

would be funny but he'd need to have his torso rotated so players can see the item

[somber oak]

So be it

His tricks could be him spinning his arms and head counter to each other or doing flips or whatever. They could draw inspiration from the Smash Bros. version of R.O.B.

[shell copper]

It's already a quartet; Dry Bowser on the Bone Rattler.

[somber oak]

Bone Rattler is heavily Dry Bowser themed, but I don't think it's enough like riding a vehicle version of Dry Bowser.

[inland gyro]

https://vxtwitter.com/BearUNLV/status/1681330022811045889

[karmic tangle]

who wants to help me test something, can we get a room of 5

[shell copper]

If you can gather the other players you desire, then I could aid in testing this something. Probably.

[urban musk]

Would if I could but I can't.

[timid shadow]

Samsies

[karmic tangle]

i would @ the role but i dont wanna be that guy to round people up just to test somethring

[shell copper]

Just tried out the very bad idea of using the Switch's button remapping to use two joy-cons to control two characters simultaneously. Very hard to pay any mind to more than one side, and the right joystick's a bit too low down to use comfortably.

[shell copper]

People do just that for their custom stages; doubt anyone would care too much.

[karmic tangle]

you're right

[karmic tangle]

did you win

[shell copper]

Yes and no. Yes, in that my left hand placed first. No, in that my right hand placed 11th.

[karmic tangle]

double dashing!

[shell copper]

Given that the biggest issue for the right hand beyond my inability to drive two karts at once was the joy-stick, might've gone better for it if I relied on gyro for it instead. Maybe I'll test that further later.

[inland gyro]

keep us posted whenever you wanna record this tev

it's gonna be loads of fun

[shell copper]

(for those who didn't participate, "this" was a battle of uneven teams, with Tev alone, and everyone else on a single team)

[inland gyro]

minecraft manhunt kart

[karmic tangle]

hear that everyone! it was fun, ya'll gotta join in

I'll make sure to announce a time and date in advance

[jovial orbit]

Thanks Bubba, I didn't need to know where Wigglers came from

[lusty citrus]

WIGGLAH

https://tenor.com/view/wiggler-mario-gif-26666441

I love how wiggler and petey are both big characters

They're getting immediately used by me

Now...if nintendo adds funky to the next wave (altough i really want pauline too) they're going to hit the jack pot

[jovial orbit]

Do you think DK and Funky would have the same stats? If they do... They have to contend with the Wiggler.

It'd be the ultimate meme weight class.

[somber oak]

Interesting thing about Wiggler and Petey is that they each are in classes of their own, simply by having stats from one size while being in another. Wiggler is medium with Waluigi's stats and Petey is big with Metal Mario's stats.

Perhaps the same could happen for Funky, where he's a big character with a medium character's stats with a little difference to make up for the size increase.

I wonder if they'll nerf Wiggler, since he got the advantage of having a smaller frame without drawbacks, while Petey got longer invincibility after getting hit to make up for his bigger size.

[inland gyro]

it's weird idk why wiggler is medium sized

i'm wondering if it's because if wiggler was big sized there would be scaling problems ?

[somber oak]

While I'm too casual to notice such a subtle difference, I do like that they're introducing characters with unique stats compared to the main cast.

Would be interesting to see a character with different stats depending on whether they're on the ground, underwater or gliding. Those stats are only really affected by kart parts, where characters have them all equal under a single speed stat.

I doubt it'll happen, but it would be one way to add someone unique to the roster stats-wise.

I'm sure it might get messy when it comes to meta and such.

[inland gyro]

man

[jovial orbit]

Get a sense of the space

[urban musk]

You say Mario Kart.
I say Hot Wheels

[karmic tangle]

Unpopular opinion, sunset wilds is at sunset

[urban musk]

How dare you

[karmic tangle]

Everyone's saying it's not a sunset
The sun doesn't literally set during the track
I didn't play Mario Kart tour

[inland gyro]

am i missing something, why is Petey's glider so big

other heavies have a big glider but not as big as petey

[urban musk]

Sunset would mean the Sun is at the time Set upon the horizon.
Otherwise it is generally evening.

[karmic tangle]

Looks red to me

Could be sunrise

[warped aspen]

It's funny in Tour because, unlike in Super Circuit where it's a gradual change, it immediately goes to night once you reach the 2nd lap.

[inland gyro]

lol I could see this happen https://www.reddit.com/r/mariokart/comments/15408mi/mario_kart_910_comes_out_and_this_is_the_roster/

[karmic tangle]

9/10?

Lame roster btw

[shell copper]

On the Mario Kart subreddit, you get crucified if you don't consider Mario Kart Tour the 9th entry in the series. I would know; happened to me a few times.

[karmic tangle]

Isn't Mario kart 8, the 10th Mario kart

I get it tho

[shell copper]

Anyway, absolutely cannot see that roster happening, considering the scale of roster we've been used to in 8, 8 Deluxe, and even Tour. Unless the next Mario Kart game is on a 3DS-level system, which is utterly improbable after the Switch, a roster that small I cannot see happening.

[karmic tangle]

Agreed

[shell copper]

If you count the arcade games, yes. But they don't.

[warped aspen]

Oh are you thinking about the arcade games?

[trail tartan]

Actually, it's 11th including the Arcade games IIRC.

[shell copper]

One moment, I'm going to go check which it is.

[karmic tangle]

Mario party 10 also ignored the portable games

[warped aspen]

Also should we including 8DX as its own entry now?

[karmic tangle]

Mario kart 8DX is Mario kart 9!

[warped aspen]

And then Tour is MK10

[shell copper]

Yep, it's 11th.

[trail tartan]

This is why names like Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart Double Dash, Mario Kart Tour and...umm...Mario Kart DS are better.

For real though, can we get names like Double Dash again?

[warped aspen]

Very odd that they decided to start numbering them at the 7th main installment.

[forest orbit]

I eagerly await the day we get New Super Mario Kart.
...though given Super Mario Bros. Wonder was not a New Soup, that day will likely be never. Sad.

[trail tartan]

That's not true. The 2nd entry when they started numbering them, though still incorrectly.

https://tenor.com/view/mario-kart-battle-gif-19791409

[warped aspen]

You know what I mean tho

[shell copper]

Nonsense; there were actually 62 discarded prototypes between Super Mario Kart and Mario Kart 64. Mario Karts 2 through 63 have been lost to time.

[inland gyro]

yeah but consider this

mario tennis aces

mario golf switch

mario strikers battle galactic football team

[karmic tangle]

Can't wait for Mario kart 65

[shell copper]

All series with far less prestige than the system-seller that is Mario Kart. They can afford to half-arse the sports spinoffs. Not so with Mario Kart.

[inland gyro]

i guess that's fair

man imagine how miserable it would be if mario kart was treated like the other sports spinoffs

[trail tartan]

Super Rush actually had a comparable amount of characters to other Mario Golf games IIRC pre-updates.

So Golf is alright IMO too on that front.

[somber finch]

You jest.

[somber finch]

Mario Kart with Rac when?

[lusty citrus]

Eh, expected from nintendo

Mario kart rosters nowadays are like

What

Mario kart 7? WIGGLER and HONEY QUEEN over waluigi

Mario kart 8? A lot of important characters not added and replaced with ..

clones

[urban musk]

Bro says "nowadays" and cites a game from 12 years ago

[lusty citrus]

Okay

And then there's mario kart tour

Of course tour's roster is gigantic and that is cool

But let's talk about it at launch

The fact LUIGI wasn't there from the very start is like

Horrifying

[urban musk]

Mobile game.
Gacha at the time.
That was going to be an easy money draw .

[lusty citrus]

Kinda glad 8dx and the bcp happened and made the current 8dx roster a thinf

[lusty citrus]

What the hell does luigi and some others not beingnat launch have to do with gacha pulls

[urban musk]

The "easy money draw" part

[lusty citrus]

Tour at launch was pretty much not finished lol

Yeah, cuz not adding luigi st the start is surely a marketing strategy so people waste their money into rubies to pull out golden pipes

It's not

[urban musk]

And yet

[lusty citrus]

Tour was at like soft launch at the start

It was not finished lmao

Didn't have online

Or missions

Nothing like that

And they also forgot rosa and wario if i remember

[urban musk]

They didn't forget is my point

As characters drop, it keeps interest consistent.
And consistent interest means more money

So while you have people who are "I'm not getting this until Luigi gets in", those are just future customers who will drive up sales numbers once Luigi gets in.

[lusty citrus]

I am crying right now

[urban musk]

Number of customers consistently goes up, this gives shareholders interest in the product in the view of "consistently increasing interest", more money, more Nintendo

[slate obsidian]

Not if you count the slot machine: https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Kart_64_(slot_machine)

[lusty citrus]

Ooh

Interesting

[karmic tangle]

i count the slot machine

[halcyon arrow]

@karmic tangle get off Pikmin 2

[karmic tangle]

i already had it open 😭 leave mii alone

[covert rapids]

I don't have mk8 :(

[urban musk]

I want that

[urban musk]

Question: What keeps you playing your favorite Mario Kart?

[inland gyro]

can you be more specific ?

is the question "what makes you come back to playing mario kart ?" or "what makes you play one mario kart over the others ?"

[urban musk]

Odds are you have a favorite Mario Kart title and it's not always going to be the most recent entry.
What aspect(s) of your favorite Mario Kart title makes you keep coming back to that game?

Is it the gimmick?
The course list?
Its control scheme?
Content?
Nostalgia?

Anything

[shell copper]

The only Mario Kart other than 8 Deluxe I've played in recent times was 7, only because I booted up the game to fact check claims made in this server regarding the game. After proving myself wrong in such an instance yesterday*, I decided to play two races of online just for the hell of it. Surprisingly still very easy to find matches.

[warped aspen]

Slight update to the roster I made last week (mainly adding a background to look neat). Not sure if I could reorganize the characters better though, any thoughts?

[woeful stump]

where tha koopalangs

good roster otherwise, i enjoy

id personally go for a more square layout rather than rectangular, but i like what you got

[warped aspen]

I felt like the Koopalings padded the roster a bit too much. They're definitely not bad, I just think there are more creative picks out there while still being reasonable.

[karmic tangle]

dont have any1 to play with

[eternal violet]

8 deluxe has inklings

[trail tartan]

I'll do each one I've still got actually.

Super Circuit: Covers the tracks of 2 games in one and I prefer this to the SNES game if I wanna play a really retro Kart. Don't return to it much though TBH.
DS: Battle Mode and Mission Mode.
Wii: Speaking personally, Wii has my favourite Nitro tracks and it's got some retros I like a lot too that aren't in 8 Deluxe yet. 2nd favourite track line-up basically.
8 Deluxe: The insane track line-up it has now alongside 200cc being a class I do like playing in alongside 150cc. Renegade Round-Up is quite a bit of fun in Battle Mode here too.

[covert rapids]

The device I play it on is broken

[karmic tangle]

why'd they even put funky kong in mario kart wii

such a random choice

he can prob use the same frame as DK for animations and all that but with that logic, why not dixie and use diddy's frame

[somber finch]

Because Funky Kong is Donkey Kong Country

[eternal violet]

every mario kart has a weird pick

[karmic tangle]

name 1

[eternal violet]

dry bones in mario kart ds

[karmic tangle]

name 3

[eternal violet]

pink gold peach in 8

That fucking bee in 7

+wiggler

petey in double dash

[karmic tangle]

petey isn't weird

[eternal violet]

my b

[karmic tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/gotcha-funny-gif-24557919

[eternal violet]

The combo of petey and king boo was weird

However didn't double dash have like koopa paratrooper?

[timid shadow]

I think it makes sense

[karmic tangle]

boss of sunshine + boss of luigi mansion

[timid shadow]

Yep

[eternal violet]

weird pick boom owned

[timid shadow]

Exactly and they were new characters in the GameCube era

[eternal violet]

could've been any other mario enemy

[karmic tangle]

paratoopa is kinda weird without context

context being koopa needed a partner

[eternal violet]

But still technically weird

[karmic tangle]

goomba! why didnt they add goomba

[timid shadow]

Could've been dry bones

Could've been a game earlier

But paratroopa had a red shell so they can just reuse them

[karmic tangle]

dry bones was weird for the time tho, never thought about that

green shell, red shell special item ablities

[timid shadow]

Yep

[karmic tangle]

goomba and drybones dont have that ya

[eternal violet]

There was dry bones but no koopa

[timid shadow]

In DS yeah

[eternal violet]

which made him weird !!

[timid shadow]

Yeah

[karmic tangle]

mario spin offs add a mario enemy playable character every few games just to create new fans

[timid shadow]

They killed him off

[karmic tangle]

imagine how many dry bone fans there would be if he wasn't ever playable, none!

blooper in mario party, spike in mario tennis

[timid shadow]

Was DS released before or after NSMB

[karmic tangle]

spike was in mario party on switch iirc

same time i think?

[timid shadow]

Chain Chomp in Mario Tennis

[karmic tangle]

yes, that too which was an amazing pick

[timid shadow]

I was thinking Dry Bones kinda mirrored Dry Bowser in NSMB, but at that point why not use Dry Bowser

And dry Bowser didn't outright replace Bowser in NSMB like Dry bones with Koopa in MKDS

[karmic tangle]

mario kart ds was like year before nsmb

[timid shadow]

Oh

So Dry Bones is just weird

[karmic tangle]

ya

and it's mario, so weird is good

[timid shadow]

That's when Mario Kart started doing weirder characters I think

You got ROB, then Funky Kong in Wii, then 7's roster was just all over the place

[inland gyro]

I play 7 other than 8 deluxe because the gliding is so much more fun and the track selection is out of this world

[lusty citrus]

I'd change the villager designs to look more modern, specifically the male one

[warped aspen]

That's fair, I definitely think the City Folk/Smash design would fit better for Male Villager

[lusty citrus]

Yeah, altough i was thinking more of a new horizons look but the smash villagers are definitely more iconic

[warped aspen]

So something like this?

[burnt spoke]

villager girl needs no changing she is perfect

[warped aspen]

Honestly one of the best appealing designs I've seen for Animal Crossing

[burnt spoke]

peak character

[lusty citrus]

EXACTLY

The problem?

It's male villager

He looks like he just woke up on his pj's

But female villager looks amazing

[lusty citrus]

That actually looks pretty nice

[lusty citrus]

Huh

[warped aspen]

I was referring to what Lily said

[lusty citrus]

Oh

[burnt spoke]

villager girl is pretty and i like her :)

ive already projected everything about me onto her

[lusty citrus]

People make somw really cool things in animal crossing, but no one will ever beat the preciousness of female villager

So yeah, get this guy off the game

[burnt spoke]

i think the worst part about mk villager is the eyes

like

change the eyes and the design becomes so much better

[lusty citrus]

Ehhhh

His pants look horrifying

Maybe change that too

[burnt spoke]

tbf you never really see his pants i never realized they were that atrocious

[lusty citrus]

Well you do when tricking

Or in a bike

...or in new leaf promotional art

[burnt spoke]

regardless, i do agree, mk male villager is awful

but that hair is by far the best male hairstyle in ac so i hope fixing him doesn’t involve getting rid of it

[lusty citrus]

I disagree, yeah it's classy but animal crossing's got a lot of male hairs i also like

Regardless i would stick to it

[burnt spoke]

idk maybe the internet didnt show me the good ones but that’s the only guy hairstyle i really like from ac outside of the smash one

[lusty citrus]

Have you ever played an animal crossing game?

[inland gyro]

you guys suck male villager is cool

[lusty citrus]

Sure

[inland gyro]

he has way more drip than this asshole

i'm glad this fucker isn't in mario kart

hate him

yee-yee ass haircut

why'd you have a 1 on your shirt twerp

blue shoes 🤣

[orchid shadow]

It's the place he would've came in if he entered a Mario Kart tournament

[burnt spoke]

acnh

i played it consistently for like 3 or 4 months

and then i stopped

and then two years later 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

so i cant go back because that island is forever stuck with my deadname in it

[burnt spoke]

no he isn’t stop lying to yourself

[lusty citrus]

So you didn't like any of the male hairs in that game ?? Lmao

[burnt spoke]

i liked the one mk villager has

that’s it

[lusty citrus]

I'm

Wow

I got no words lmao

Of the like 20 hairstyles the game had to offer you only liked two

[burnt spoke]

in hindsight it probably makes sense that i didn’t really like any of male hairstyles

[lusty citrus]

Why lmao

[trail tartan]

...you know what confuses me? You guys acting like the Villagers should remain having only the one alt. Why can't they have a few to pick from each?

[shell copper]

Very true - that's how the Inklings do it.

[trail tartan]

With different clothes, hairstyles, eye styles, etc.

[shell copper]

...and the Hylian, too.

[burnt spoke]

like i said, 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

but that’s besides the point

[lusty citrus]

Aren't those just hair recolors

[burnt spoke]

because i HATE options i HATE having choices grrrrr

[lusty citrus]

What if they had different hairstyles and clofhes

[shell copper]

Nope - they also change their outfits. And skin colour.

And kart colours.

[lusty citrus]

And the hair tho?

[burnt spoke]

to be completely fair, the hairstyle for inklings doesn’t change because they’re based off of splatoon 1, which didn’t have any hair options. same happens in smash, they’re fully splatoon 1 reps and nothing else

[shell copper]

Doesn't change the hairstyle, I'll give you that. But the Mario Kart Inklings were likely based off Splatoon 1 exclusively, where there was only one hair style.

[lusty citrus]

Oh yeah

Forgot about that

[burnt spoke]

splatoon 2 hadn’t come out yet at the time of 8dx’s release

and while it was out for smash, probably came out too late into development

[lusty citrus]

What would the other alts be like? Any ideas?

[trail tartan]

I don't really care enough to think up a few right now. Villager isn't someone I pick in Mario Kart personally cos meh to Villager. But think kinda like how Smash's alts are different from each other. Just a bit more out there with the hair styles.

Link's outfit changing and his ditching of his hat for the BOTW hair style is another good example.

[lusty citrus]

Yeah i don't really pick any animal crossing characters consistently on mario kart, nor splatoon characters...

Altough i do pixk link (skyward mostly) a lot

Not that i hate crossovers like some others do i just don't get interested enough

[lusty citrus]

The way this happens makes me wish that in smash we can have one link with multiple attires instead of having to make like 3 of them for some reason

[trail tartan]

I don't mind that we have more than one playable link in Smash. I mind that their gear is pretty much the same set completely in types of weapons.

[burnt spoke]

i use villager girl almost all the time lol

[lusty citrus]

I don't really mimd this cuz a lot cuz aleast all their moves work differently (compare young link's arrow to the other link's) but i do think adult link needs a moveset revamp since he is based off the botw games now

[burnt spoke]

speaking of which

im so glad we didn’t get this villager girl in mario kart it would’ve been awful

it’s just

awful

[lusty citrus]

Got to be honest with you

I like how she looks

[burnt spoke]

i hate smash villager girl i hope whoever designed her explodes cartoonishly

[warped aspen]

I like it, but I wouldn't mind having the New Leaf female design replace this in the future.

[burnt spoke]

horrid eyes of a night-dwelling creature

ugly socks

even uglier hair

here’s hoping next smash game gets rid of her and puts the acnl in her place 🙏

[lusty citrus]

I feel sakurai's not replacing the animal crossing gen 1 designs for gen 2 designs, but who knows lol

[burnt spoke]

i don’t really think any future smash game would have sakurai at the helm tbh

[lusty citrus]

Mk8 roster but i removed a ton of clones (and i added diddy and pauline in for fun)

[slate obsidian]

You don't fuck with Steve driving the Dry Bomber lol

[woeful stump]

this is so fake

steve wasnt in mario kart ds

[slate obsidian]

It's a mod

[woeful stump]

this is so fake

[slate obsidian]

Why are you like this?

[lusty citrus]

Idk but he's speqking facts, literally so fake dude

[woeful stump]

ive played mario kart ds and unlocked all the characters and steve wasnt in it

[slate obsidian]

Anyways, why does literally everyone think Diddy and Pauline are gonna be the final two DLC characters? I can understand Diddy, but why Pauline? I mean, yeah, she has been making more appearances in games ever since they made her a major character in Odyssey, but it seems like literally everybody who's made a prediction for the final two DLC characters has been predicting her.

[woeful stump]

populat

[slate obsidian]

So we're just gonna ignore the fact that I said this then Speci? Ok then

[woeful stump]

this is so fake

[eternal violet]

Nah, you had to beat the mission mode backwards with every character to unlock him

[woeful stump]

what?? really

[eternal violet]

Yeah!

[woeful stump]

i had no idea, thats odd

[slate obsidian]

Speci, why do you never take me seriously? It seems like literally everytime I talk to you, you end up trying to troll me.

[woeful stump]

what a strange unlock condition

sorry for not taking you seriously before bubbabyte, i wouldve never guessed i had to do that to unlock him

talk about a what the heck moment nintend9

[slate obsidian]

Speci, stop

[eternal violet]

You can also put your ds in the microwave for 5 minutes to unlock fire mario!

[woeful stump]

nah i knew that one ive had him for awhile

[slate obsidian]

Seriously tho, will you EVER stop messing with me?

Cuz it's really kind of annoying

[lusty citrus]

I feel pauline's about to become the next rosalina in mario history

[woeful stump]

shes overdue for it

[lusty citrus]

She's going to appear in one game with a cool role and then she's going to fall into the spin off character rabbit hole

[slate obsidian]

Inb4 she's playable in SMB Wonder

[lusty citrus]

What does imb4 mean

[slate obsidian]

That's pretty common internet lingo. How you don't know it idk, but here's a translation: "watch them put her in SMB Wonder"

[woeful stump]

that would be funny but i dont anticipate it

[lusty citrus]

Yeah same

[woeful stump]

im ready for playable wario

[lusty citrus]

Still, she is already going through the process i just talked about lol

[lusty citrus]

Yeah no

[woeful stump]

and yknow if daisy can make it, waluigi

id enjoy

[lusty citrus]

I mean, atleast nintendo is pretty alright with daisy

But WALUIGI

[woeful stump]

lmfao

[eternal violet]

i hope there's a lot of colors you can get for toad & yoshi

[woeful stump]

its a BIG stretch but im jus sayin it would be Cool

[lusty citrus]

I meaj daisy has "technically" been playable in 2 main mario games but no one counts mario run so

[woeful stump]

daisy first mainline appearance in a million billion years

waluigi's first Ever

[slate obsidian]

Oh God, are we gonna have people sending Miyamoto death threats to put Waluigi in like what happened with Sakurai? Plz no

[woeful stump]

mario run is a beautiful lil game but i dont consider it a main game in the slightest

[lusty citrus]

What

[woeful stump]

that being said i wish it was on switch

[lusty citrus]

Well, nintendo itself does like with all of their mobile games but...you get what i mean

No one considers it mainline except them

[woeful stump]

yea they dont wanna put them on unequal footing as their actual games

gotta hand it to em. they made characters playable.

[lusty citrus]

You know it's a problem when all the mainline mario characters have appeared as playable in other mainline marios except for waluigi

[woeful stump]

mario run, if it did a single thing right, it was that

[slate obsidian]

Basically all you need to know is that Waluigi's fans are a bit TOO passionate over the character

[lusty citrus]

Mario run was pretty much a failure for them in terms of mobile games

Which is why tour and dr mario world went for the loopbox tactic

[slate obsidian]

Thank God they reconsidered tho eventually

[lusty citrus]

I only remember like people making weird ass protests for him in australia or something, woah

[lusty citrus]

Yeah

A lot of games are removing their gschas nowadays thank god

It's cooler to choose your own characters to unlock rather than being forced to "gamble"

Lol

[slate obsidian]

Yeah

If they wouldn't have removed the gacha, I probably would've never gotten DK Jr. and Poochy

[lusty citrus]

I love how poochy's in a mario kart game, it's always appreciated when mario spin off characters come to tour

[slate obsidian]

I want him in 8 Deluxe SO BADLY

[lusty citrus]

(I mean...he did appear on odyssey cuz he had moons but whatever)

You know it's bad when poochy appeared in a manline mario before waluigi

[slate obsidian]

Not gonna happen tho probably

Which makes me sad

[lusty citrus]

I doubt it since i feel his best opportunity was wave 4 but who knows

[eternal violet]

ngl idc what characters come back because im going to end up playing inkling boy anyway

[lusty citrus]

Characters are not connected to tracks

[eternal violet]

unless it's ROB, I'd probably play ROB a little

[lusty citrus]

For some reason i can never get myself to consistently play crossover characters aside of link

[lusty citrus]

For some reason a ton of people want rob in this game, and what i think of it is

[slate obsidian]

I'm so happy Wiggler is in the game. I also find it pretty cool how Wiggler technically released in Tour the same day, only he couldn't be unlocked until a week later because he was a ranked reward

[eternal violet]

ROB is cool tho

[lusty citrus]

I love how wiggler is in the game

[slate obsidian]

Because he was in Mario Kart DS

[lusty citrus]

Wiggler is such a cool character

[eternal violet]

and he's cool, you forgot to mention that

[lusty citrus]

And waluigi and wiggler have a long history of love hate to each other

[slate obsidian]

That's a given

[lusty citrus]

I still don't get the deal with rob, he is a super out of place character and seeing him back would be super weird...also, i don't really get why people hype him up so much anyway

[slate obsidian]

As if Link, the Villagers, Isabelle, Inklings, and Miis aren't out of place

[lusty citrus]

Yeah but

All those are crossover charactersand the miis are self explainatory

Rob was wayy before them

[slate obsidian]

And R.O.B. isn't a crossover character?

[lusty citrus]

And for some reason some guy on the ds dev team said

"Hey why don't we add that robot no one remembered until 2008"

[lusty citrus]

R.o.b is weird, he's a video game character but also not so i am not getting into that lmao

[eternal violet]

wait until you find out when mkds came out

[lusty citrus]

Yeah i know it came before 2008

But 2008 was when brawl happened and people started to remember he was real

Lmao

[slate obsidian]

You do realize that R.O.B. is one of the reasons why the industry was able to recover from the North American Video Game Crash of 1983, right?

[eternal violet]

also he's cool and a robot and not mario and cool looking

[lusty citrus]

He was what