Mario Kart Klub

[daring moss]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-gif-25876670

[warped aspen]

Yeah, that's a bit wack as well

At least I can agree with their #1 pick

[daring moss]

True

[somber finch]

I would have a hard time ranking the Double Dash tracks, many of them have the worst track design in the whole Mario Kart series.

[daring moss]

Based pick

[somber finch]

I'm one of the few people that might even put Super Mario Kart above Double Dash, though that's getting carried away in Tevlev's eyes.

[daring moss]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-gif-25876670

[trail tartan]

Just cos why not. Here's was the listing I had put together a couple of months ago here. Just to add Wave 4 in quickly.

Amsterdam Drift: A Tier. Interestingly, I can't put my finger in why...it just clicks so nicely for me.
Riverside Park: Retro A Tier.
DK Summit: Retro S Tier.
Yoshi's Island: S Tier.
...side note. Fruit Cup is BEST cup in the game!
Bangkok Rush: B Tier.
DS Mario Circuit: Retro B Tier.
Waluigi Stadium: Retro A Tier.
Singapore Speedway: A Tier. TBH, Lap 2 is mostly what's keeping it JUST missing out on S Tier for me.

[daring moss]

Dang I can’t believe you misplaced Boo Lake twice

Also yeah good list 👍

[somber finch]

I look for stuff in track design, which is why I think Mario Kart 7 was my top Mario Kart so far. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe could be my top Mario Kart, but they're too busy catering to Mario Kart Tour instead of Mario Kart fans.

[daring moss]

GBA rainbow road as the best one pretty based

[trail tartan]

Where abouts would you place it? ||Or am I being memed? lol||

[daring moss]

I would put it in S

[trail tartan]

The tiers aren't ordered. 3DS Rainbow Road is actually the best track for me in the series.

But GBA's very high up, yeah.

[daring moss]

I prefer 3DS over GBA yeah

[trail tartan]

Would love to see GBA Rainbow Road brought back so much. Alongside the usual GBA glow-up, just imagining the border being tricks ramps entirely is just so fun to think about!

[daring moss]

Would be so awesome

[true bison]

Daisy Cruiser is awesome wdym

I'd swap out Wario Colosseum for Waluigi Stadium and Mushroom City for DK Mountain
but otherwise cool list

[river trail]

How come? Are there any specific things you dislike about Double Dash's tracks?

[trail tartan]

I'd personally say Double Dash's tracks are overall rather solid when it comes to track design. The problem for me is more how Double Dash itself handles.

I adore the Gamecube tracks in later Mario Karts.

...well...except Baby Park in DS.

[true bison]

[somber finch]

Double Dash just feels a little less polished to me.

[trail tartan]

Here's an interesting question. Across each Mario Kart, what Cup would you say is your favourite? For me, it goes...

SNES: Flower
64: Star
GBA: Special
GCN: All Cup. True answer is Star.
DS: Star
Wii: Star...wow, this cup is on a roll!
3DS: Flower.
Wii U: Bell.
Switch: Fruit.

[somber finch]

https://youtu.be/bPob0Iw8RmM

[urban musk]

Someone did a video on Youtube that used polls to find out people's favorite cups across all games.
Star was the most successful overall across series.

[jovial orbit]

To be fair, it is among the list of cups in every game, so it would have an advantage.

[karmic tangle]

how do you get custom tracks on dolphin

[warped aspen]

You know, speaking of cups, I wonder by the time the BCP ends if we'll all 4 tracks from a previous cup.

[true bison]

what

[warped aspen]

Like if all tracks from a cup from a previous game will return in the same game.

[urban musk]

Throw your Hot Wheels in the Flipper pit at Sea World

[karmic tangle]

[true bison]

not quite sure if thats possible

[warped aspen]

We've gotten close in MK8D like with Wii's Flower cup is almost entirely represented in there with Coconut Mall, DK Summit, and Wario's Gold Mine.

[true bison]

right

nope not possible

unless they're REALLY willing to add another mario circuit

[warped aspen]

Yeah no I doubt that cup specifically.

[true bison]

true

[warped aspen]

I could see DD's Star Cup if the stars align and we get DK Mountain and Mushroom City.

[true bison]

IF the stars align

were already getting actual city tracks out of this

[warped aspen]

Fair, I just really really want Mushroom City

More than Mushroom Bridge.

[true bison]

||I want Mushroom Bridge more||

[warped aspen]

And that's obviously not to say I dislike Bridge, I think it's a decent track of itself. I just prefer how more complex Mushroom City is compared to Bridge.

[true bison]

okay but out of all of them I think I want Daisy Cruiser the most

[warped aspen]

Definitely down with you there. Daisy Cruiser is easily a top 5 for me (maybe even top 3).

[daring moss]

Wario Colosseum for me but I would be happy to see any of these tracks

[somber finch]

I stand by what I said.

[true bison]

I really don't think so

[true bison]

Top 1 for me

[warped aspen]

I would love to see Wario Colosseum but with Waluigi Stadium already in it, I doubt it.

[true bison]

[warped aspen]

Very understandable pick.

[somber finch]

Only add Daisy Cruiser to 8 Deluxe if they fix it.

[warped aspen]

I should relook at my DD tier list. Remind me what my stance on the track selection.

[true bison]

Wait Top 3 for me actually
Dk Mountain and Waluigi Stadium are the other top 2

[warped aspen]

What was wrong with Daisy Cruiser?

[true bison]

I gotta stop pinging with the replies

[warped aspen]

No worries

[true bison]

wdym there is nothing wrong with it

[warped aspen]

As I stated before I think DK Mountain is a tad overrated since we've gotten similar tracks that've done the concept better imo (DK Summit and Mount Wario) but it definitely has its own charm that I can definitely respect.

[true bison]

[somber finch]

Daisy Cruiser could be better.

[warped aspen]

Oh found my tier list

I think it's a bit outdated though since I've been currently making my every track tier list and readjusting some positions.

[somber finch]

DK Mountain and Daisy Cruiser might need an overhaul for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, kind of like what happened to Choco Mountain.

[true bison]

both are in tour
and both look okay me thinks

[somber finch]

Better than Double Dash? Good 👍

[true bison]

well double dash set a pretty low visually so yeah

[lusty citrus]

If dk mountain comes to 8 i think i might get dissapointed over it

Cuz 8's physics will probably not make the track janky as hell at all

[true bison]

I'd care less about jankyness and more about playability

[trail tartan]

Plus, despite it being my favourite GCN track, I'd prefer to see others before DK Mountain anyway.

[lusty citrus]

Yeah but like

That is the thing about it

Dk mountain is known for how crazy it can get

[trail tartan]

Eh...I don't really care about it's jank or craziness. It's a solid track and would likely remain a solid track.

[lusty citrus]

Aight

[true bison]

yuppp

[jovial orbit]

In my initial predictions, I thought to myself, 'DK Summit or DK Mountain?' because I thought they'd be redundant.

[true bison]

yeahhhhh

[mint mural]

Hype af
https://twitter.com/mariokarttourEN/status/1651522944491986944

Mario Kart Tour (@mariokarttourEN)

Here's a sneak peek of what's to come in #MarioKartTour! You might get the feeling that some intense races are about to start in this dangerous looking castle course.

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Twitter · Apr 27, 2023, 9:45 AM

[trail tartan]

Come to 8 Deluxe! We NEED this!

[mint mural]

Actually

Surprised this got as much of a glow up as it did

[daring moss]

[inland gyro]

okay it's absolutely coming to the bcp lol

[jovial orbit]

Mario Kart fans everytime a new course is revealed:

[true bison]

oh alright

kinda expecting one of the gba castles to make it over

[somber oak]

I always wanted an SNES Bowser Castle track to return for the longest time, so I'd love to have this in 8.

[daring moss]

I was hoping for GBA Bowser Castle 4 but I’m fine with this

[warped aspen]

I feel like they'll have GBA Bowser Castle 4 in Tour eventually, but it is nice to see a SNES Bowser Castle get the remake treatment for the first time.

[lusty citrus]

I just saw someone say that mk8's dlc tracks are too wide and too slippery

...altough they're not any of both lmao

Idk how any of the tracks are slippery aside of like the ice ones

Or too wide cuz they look perfect to me

[woeful stump]

most mk8 tracks are pretty wide

compared to tracks from the previous games

[jovial orbit]

It's weird to think it's the first time (excluding GBA) when 7 and Wii both had GBA Bowsers Castles remakes.

[inland gyro]

even some wii tracks that were already arguably wide are even wider in mk8

i'm afraid wii rr is gonna get ruined because of this

[jovial orbit]

It does make sense as there are more racers. Except for Wii...

[lusty citrus]

I guess this is because this is a 12 racer game

Not an 8 racer one

[lusty citrus]

Tbh tour's version is already kinda sad lmao

[inland gyro]

it's not it's just because tour has the stupid idea of having only 2 laps

it'll have 3 laps on 8

[lusty citrus]

It's not stupid when it's a mobile game

[inland gyro]

normal races are 2 to 3 minute long tops if you can't spare 3 minutes of your time to play a race you honestly do not deserve a mario kart on the phone

[lusty citrus]

Does this include base-game

[woeful stump]

yes

[lusty citrus]

Ah alr

[woeful stump]

wii had 12 racers as well

[lusty citrus]

True, but...wouldn't they want you to buy the actual game for the full on 3 lap experience?

[woeful stump]

... no?

[lusty citrus]

Why not, it's a free to play mobile game i can see that being possible

Like how none of the 8 nitros are in tour

[jovial orbit]

The only course I'd feel would make sense is Sunshine Airport.

[inland gyro]

that's cause most of them involves heavy reworking to remove the antigrav

[true bison]

some of them need antigrav to work too

[lusty citrus]

Or for people who have not bought the best selling switch game to buy it

[lusty citrus]

If they added 8 tracks to tour, they'd add the anti gravity

Like with half pipes

Or miis

[jovial orbit]

Sadly not the full Mii usage

[inland gyro]

lol that would require so much work just for a couple of tracks

you'd need to rework literally every kart in the game

[jovial orbit]

That's part of why Sunshine Airport is the best fit

[lusty citrus]

I can see them doing it

[true bison]

Super Bell Subway would be a good fit too

I can confirm, as the only fan of that track

[warped aspen]

I think Toad's Harbor could work as well, they would just have to remove the anti-gravity wall.

[lusty citrus]

Thst wall sucks

Thry should've added half pipes instead but they didn't come back in 8 before th bcp for...some reason

[jovial orbit]

Plus it feels strange that Tour doesn't have an airport track (whoo, Atlanta track idea?)

[warped aspen]

Oh Sunshine Airport definitely would be a nice inclusion.

[lusty citrus]

Don't you go through the amsterdam airport at the stsrt of amsterdam drift lmao

[warped aspen]

That was an airport?

[lusty citrus]

I believe so yea

[true bison]

[jovial orbit]

Which building is that?
Also, I don't recall any planes just trains

[lusty citrus]

Like when you start the track and go to the windmills

You pass through one

[true bison]

huh

[jovial orbit]

I think that's underneath the Nemo Science Museum actually

[trail tartan]

Super Bell Subway would work too. Already lacks Anti-Grav.

[true bison]

[trail tartan]

Feel more likely that you'd be getting pushed towards the "free to play" game personally if anything, as that's where they make most of their money.

I think Thwomp Ruins would have a decent shot too myself. The Anti-Grav section isn't really steep...like, at all.

[true bison]

moatly tilted yeah

[jovial orbit]

Ignoring the walls

[daring moss]

Sometimes you just need to anti-gravity shoved into a course ya know?

[mint mural]

Yea but this time it actually makes sense

[true bison]

rip vanilla lake

[mint mural]

Man Vanilla lake is just so boring

[true bison]

I agree
but like

[mint mural]

Honestly I’d rather see the RMX version of Vanilla lake

[true bison]

there were theories about vanilla lake and dino dino jungle from the posters in coconut mall

[mint mural]

I feel like DDJ has a pretty likely chance of getting in

[true bison]

DK Mountain is possible???

[mint mural]

Ye, it’s in Tour

[true bison]

both are in yeah
I'm kinda fine with both tho

[mint mural]

I find both to be equally as good as one another

Vanilla lake tho

Eh

[true bison]

yeah ehhh

[mint mural]

Like would I rather see a never before remade track of a bowsers castle or vanilla lake

Although if we get bowsers castle, I cannot wait to hear the Vs. Bowser theme from Mario World

[mint mural]

Are you in the know with the leaks?

[true bison]

yuppp

[mint mural]

Ok go to that thread for a moment

[true bison]

mostly because friends wont shut up about them lol

[mint mural]

Wait

I think it was removed

[true bison]

what was removed

[mint mural]

That leak thread

[mint mural]

Here's the trailer for SNES BC3

https://youtu.be/Vy0vkZoaHmA

I only post it here because there's a moment that caught my eye

Specifically at the 10 second mark

Judging by the floor, it looks like it's GBA BC4

[shell copper]

Tour made interesting changes to an SNES track. Holy hell.

[left lagoon]

Meowser

[mint mural]

Give us Meowser Jr

[daring moss]

[trail tartan]

...imagine if we actually get that Bowser's Castle Cup I've said I'd love to get!

SNES 3, GBA 4, 3DS...plus whatever city goes at the front of the cup.

[mint mural]

I've heard that there is one other BC course that was dataminded for Tour

I won't say which one, but it's there

I won't say it mainly cause it potentially might get added to the BCP unless another course takes its spot

[peak kiln]

Apparently it's ||only one lap?||

||like Mount Wario||

[lusty citrus]

Do you guys think the booster course tracks are slippery

I heard someone say they were "too slippery" so i wanna know what you guys think

[urban musk]

Maybe Sky High.
Overall, I don't think so though I suppose that ultimately depends on what the person means by "too slippery"

[true bison]

Definitely New York Minute for me

other than that Idk about slippery

[jovial orbit]

Some feel a touch slippery, but you really need to ask what and which they mean.
New York, Snow Land, and Waluigi Stadium can be slippery but that makes sense though. New Yorks ground looks wet, Snowland is ice, and Waluigi Stadium is all mud.

[lusty citrus]

Imo the only one that feels slippery to me is like;

Snow land

[inland gyro]

tracks have degrees of slipperiness

[lusty citrus]

Wdym

Do you mean every single track in the game, inclusing the base game tracks have different sorrs of slippery-ness?

Is there any site or link to check on the slipperyness of every track

[inland gyro]

i think there's like... 3 degrees of slipperiness
might be wrong though

first tier is just like, not slippery at all ie uhh toad circuit let's say

second tier is a bit slippery, like.. yoshi valley ? i can't think of a better example

a lot of tracks are in that second tier oddly enough

third tier is very slippery, ie bone dry dunes, snow land, dry dry desert, sherbert land...

[lusty citrus]

...why would dry dry desert be slippery it's a desert track-

Nintendo needs help

[inland gyro]

i wouldn't know where to put cheese land for instance, i know it is slippery but... maybe not as much as snow land, but also maybe more than wario stadium ?

[lusty citrus]

Wouldn't it also depend on the terrain? Like driving on icen or water, or anti gravity

[inland gyro]

deserts have just always been slippery

it's to emulate that feeling of driving on sand

slipperiness can be mitigated by having a high traction stat btw

the higher your traction stat is, the closer your driving will look like normal slipperiness driving on slippery tracks

[lusty citrus]

Where'd you find this info by the way

[inland gyro]

also i know the blooper item switches slipperiness around

on slippery tracks, a blooped driver will drive as if the track was normal, and vice versa

uhh just through playing

surprisingly there's very few info about all this online

this is just my experience playing mk8 for a looong time

[lusty citrus]

Ohhh

[inland gyro]

the only info in all i've said that isn't 100% real is the tiers of slipperiness

i think there's for sure two tiers (slippery or not)

i can't really tell if there's other tiers... some tracks definitely feel slippery but not as much as driving on ice yknow

all my googling is yielding nothing.. can't find any info on that

[lusty citrus]

Yeah honestly i'll just take what you are saying rn with a grain of salt

[inland gyro]

what i've said in regards to the traction stat or how the bloopers affect driving is true though, here are the sources

[lusty citrus]

Yeah

Do you think bloopers making you more slippery makes the item better

[inland gyro]

i still think it can be wiped off way too easily, and it only affects drivers in front of you

they should give it a buff

it does make the item better but it's not enough is what i'm saying

[lusty citrus]

Yea

[true bison]

https://youtu.be/2eGQuexX8IY

[lusty citrus]

I mean the track did get ported correctly to 8 cuz it has no weird jank or anything

[true bison]

true

but it still sucks visually

[lusty citrus]

And it feels weird to see mario kart wii graphics in mario ksrt 8, dlc or not

[true bison]

thats fair

[lusty citrus]

I actually kinda like how it looks with the popping colors, and the inside of the mall doesn't look that bad...

I hate those square bushes tho.

[true bison]

they got rid of the beach ball dome and the cheese grater stairs

[lusty citrus]

Kinda glad they got rid of those stairs

I've never seen any mall with cheese grater stairs fgs

[mint mural]

Same

[lusty citrus]

Who decided to add that

[true bison]

not even sure what those were for

I think I miss the dome the most tho

[mint mural]

I like the new curves with the 1-1 block formation on the walls

[lusty citrus]

Yeah same

[true bison]

[lusty citrus]

I'm ok with the dome being gone but i kinda miss the come back sign

[true bison]

oh yeah the arches

[mint mural]

I do kinda miss the arches

[lusty citrus]

This is my tier list for bcp track visuals in this game

[true bison]

I'm 99% sure those were cut because if they wanted to make T/R variants of the track the racers would just bump into those (?)

[mint mural]

I think that's the general consensus tbh

[lusty citrus]

Oh yeah

That must be why

[mint mural]

Tho I think the top row might be interchangeable

[lusty citrus]

And it makes sense ig

[true bison]

why is Maple Treeway in B

why

[mint mural]

I would say Riverside Park is the highest S tier

Grass, dirt, sky box, rocks, water

[lusty citrus]

Honestly i just always feel mixed between 8 and wii's maple treeway, wiixs has more plants and small animations, but 8 deluxe's has more popping oranges and better looking trees

[left lagoon]

I find it funny how all of s tier is wave 4

[mint mural]

It's basically true

[lusty citrus]

Also isn't it weird how 8'd maple treeway still has that hole they added in 7 for gliders to pass through, but in 8 they just...

GO THROUGH THE LEAVES

[true bison]

yeah

[mint mural]

I remember my mom telling me she went through the leave hole during a race

[lusty citrus]

Huh

Maybe i should put treeway in A- actually

[true bison]

or swap it with DK Summit

[lusty citrus]

...yeah no

[true bison]

[lusty citrus]

I should make a new general 8 tier list, my opinions always shift a ton after all

I think 8dx and the bcp's courses are like opposites

8dx's base courses look great but aren't that good most of the time, hwile the bcp's are practically the opposite

[jovial orbit]

Oh. There's my problem with Bone Dry Dunes.

[inland gyro]

honestly I usually don't love slippery tracks but bone-dry dunes is one I really like BECAUSE of how slippery it is

it's like they designed the layout with the slipperiness in mind

[trail tartan]

Umm...Rainbow Road?

[mint mural]

Might as well be a wave 4 track

[left lagoon]

Oh right

I mean

It’s closer to the beginning of wave 4 than it is to the beginning of wave 3

[mint mural]

Nice play

[true bison]

what makes it all the more worse for them is I actually had all the means to just dodge it myself

otherwise they wouldn't have died

[shell copper]

Definitely seems to me like blue shell targeting has gotten a bit out of whack since Wave 4's update - seen more than a few instances where it's targeted second place in situations where it definitely seems like it should've gone after first.

[true bison]

perhaps

you handled it really well tho

[shell copper]

Only because I had the mushroom to dodge it - outside of trying to catch first in the blast as well, don't think there was anything else I could've done to handle it.

[true bison]

true

[lusty citrus]

Those were nice lmao

[jovial orbit]

Online's wack.

[daring moss]

Bowser tour is out. Enjoyed the new tracks!

||Bowser’s Castle 3 was pretty good. I really liked the part where you can land on the pillars. Probably made with BCP in mind, but I won’t mind it’s inclusion.||
||Bowser Castle 4 was my favorite of the two tracks however. I like the ruined aesthetic, even if I wish it used the originals more mechanical setting. Really liked the ending with the two split paths, with the top one being the faster but more difficult path. (It’s a Sonic reference). Plus I also liked it when balls filled with mercury were thrown at you, best touch. BC3 is probably getting into the BCP, but I’m hoping that BC4 gets in instead. I also hope that it would be three full laps instead of one.||

[inland gyro]

man Ibli i think you'll have a field day with those bowser castle

i think at least one of them will be into the BCP

[trail tartan]

Only one? I want both!

Need to fix the Bowser's Castles missing issue!

[somber oak]

I'll gladly take the both of 'em. SNES BC3 for Wave 5 and GBA BC4 could be a fitting track before a Rainbow Road in Wave 6.

[inland gyro]

i'm being conservative here but yeah i want both too

[somber oak]

I'd be surprised if SNES BC3 didn't make it, especially with the incline that's almost tailor-made for anti-grav, but GBA BC4's new layout looks amazing too. If that course somehow makes it in, I do hope they sprinkle in the spheres and wires from the original background as decorative assets.

[inland gyro]

bc4 looks maybe uhh too long ?

i fear that if it made it into the bcp it'd be a 3 portion track

[trail tartan]

I mean...my favourite track in Mario Kart as a series is a 3 portion track so...whatever?

Not seen it in action. Will do so later today.

[somber oak]

They could make it 2 laps. I don't see how that's impossible if Baby Park can have 7.

[jovial orbit]

Wario Colosseum had 2 laps

[warped aspen]

Basic thought on new BC tracks...

• SNES BC3: Really appreciate how it was given a GBA treatment, definitely has the same vibes as Boo Lake and Riverside Park. Really cool how parts of the tracks curve, the wall section feels a lot more fleshed out, and I like the addition of the bone piranha plants.
  Current Rank: B+

• GBA BC4: Honestly this feels like the biggest glow up from any of the GBA tracks, which I really appreciate after the downgrade to GBA BC3. They retain the core element of the original track, but add and change so many elements that really make it feel more dynamic. Especially at the end with the branching paths, that was very neat!
  Current Rank: A-

[lusty citrus]

3 part tracks can be so cool

[lusty citrus]

Honestly gba bc3 gives me more vibes of snow land

Did i just say gba

Well anyways it's cuz boo lake and riverside are the more like, "worse" gba tracks altough i like them

Boo lake is VERY short lmao, and i feel riverside's layout is too simple for me

Sure it might have nice graphics but it doesn't automatically mean it'll be a top tier track

...i just described 8's basegame tracks in a nutshell lmao

[daring moss]

Hello people living inside of my phone, please tell me a cup in 8

[warped aspen]

Star Cup

[daring moss]

Ok

👍

[urban musk]

A cup is 8 ounces

[daring moss]

Thank you I needed that

[daring moss]

ok every track from Mario Kart 8's star cup has been ranked. Mostly bangers

Sunshine Airport: D+
Dolphin Shoals: A-
Electrodrome: A+
Mount Wario: S

[urban musk]

I mostly agree though that low grade for Sunshine Airport wounds me

[somber finch]

Are we getting to the Wave 5 DLC this summer?

[daring moss]

Most likely

I wrote a bunch of reasons why I’m not a fan of Sunshine Airport

[true bison]

its an okay track I think
although I kinda wish there was a longer indoor section

[daring moss]

Main reasons tho are that it doesn’t utilize its theme to the fullest extent, only half of the track has a fun layout, and it’s too much like Coconut mall without what made coconut mall fun

[somber finch]

For a new track, they can add New Donk City.

[mint mural]

So awesome, wish there was an extended version

https://youtu.be/TWdGIApWJWY

Ok I found a slightly longer version

https://youtu.be/2yzbh_J4xcs

Dude the band sounds amazing

The entire Wii soundtrack being live recorded in the MK8 jazz style is just pure… mmmmmmmmhh

[true bison]

thats so cool

[true bison]

No wayyyy Toads Factory

I love this

[daring moss]

these people suck at Mario kart lmao

Looks so cool

[true bison]

I wonder if there is a clip floating online for Maple Treeway

assuming they actually played on that track ofc

[mint mural]

From the looks of it, a good majority of the courses were played

I really want to hear a longer version of Moonview Highway and Koopa Cape

[true bison]

same

[mint mural]

Actually, no I wanna hear all of the courses that were played, even the ones I don’t like

Ooo Grumble Volcano must’ve sounded awesome

[true bison]

definitely
probably dry dry ruins too

[mint mural]

I found a longer version of Toads Factory

https://youtu.be/6UEHJv_wREo

[true bison]

I just watched that one actually
it was the first result on search

[mint mural]

Aww god why did you say that, now im extremely jealous

[true bison]

[mint mural]

Lemme go on like TikTok or something

There’s gotta be more… right? I hope???

Ok while I haven't found anything yet, I did find this very wholesome video
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cp_WN6tgNzD/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

[true bison]

idk whats supposed to happen in that
the video wont play for me

[mint mural]

Dang uh

Hold up

Ok not the same one but still cute

https://youtu.be/kpFUxUCF-IA

[true bison]

[mint mural]

Ok I found more
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRwqRPXQ/

Coconut Mall, Warios Gold Mine, etc.

@true bison
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRwVW3Fx/

You can slightly hear Maple Treeway

[true bison]

"Video doesn't do it justice"

what video?

[mint mural]

Ig click on the link

[true bison]

no really it just turned into a picture when posting it to discord (?)

[mint mural]

I’m so pissed, there was footage of Dry Dry Ruins

[true bison]

[mint mural]

But the race had just ended

So there was just the victory lap music

[true bison]

Warios Gold Mine and Koopa Cape are just absolutely jamming

[mint mural]

So true

I sorta wish that the River and Underwater sections were maintained as it would have made it absolutely crazy, but I can’t complain because this is honeslty amazing

Like the River section and it’s strong ass drums mixed with jazz would be awesome

[true bison]

true 🙏

also thats definitely Maple Treeway, but everyone was screaming so loud I couldn't hear it correctly

[mint mural]

Yeah

From the sounds of it, it sounded pretty mellow

Same with Coconut Mall

[true bison]

sounds really mellow for the final lap

or at least I think that was the final lap

[mint mural]

Yeah it was

And yes I’m greedy, but I would kill to hear some of the Tour tracks orchestrated

Like can you imagine an orchestrated Vancouver Velocity?

Or a orchestrated jazz rendition of LA Laps?

Dudeee I need to calm down

I also need a hobby lmao

[true bison]

YESSSSSSSSSS

I'd kill for that now that you mentioned it

[inland gyro]

i like the implication that i'm just someone inside your phone

[true bison]

https://youtu.be/RftHEF6auRQ

guys guys

boo lake

[mint mural]

Boo Lake irl

[true bison]

so I got a bit curious in Google Maps, I never expected this to be there of all places

[mint mural]

Dude no way Berlin Byways irl

[mint mural]

Guys they made Singapore Speedway a real thing

[river trail]

I'd be scared shitless if I were to swim in that

[inland gyro]

let me guess only extremely rich people get to swim here

[river trail]

I mean that's kind of a given lol

[lusty citrus]

Music park is a weird track

It has a ton of classical instruments in it yet it has speakers lights and chiptune music

It's like if they didn't decide on one musical theme and decided to mix it all over

Also the track has a similiar layout to an f zero track

So technically speaking mk8dx has 4 f zero tracks in it

[jovial orbit]

4?

[urban musk]

Rainbow Road 64 makes 3

I'd need to know what track is being compared before I can say Music Park makes 4

[inland gyro]

similar layout to an f zero track ? how so ?

[lusty citrus]

Silence 2-wavy road

If you tilt it it kinda does resemble it

[somber oak]

Funny how the track all about sound resembles a Silence track

[lusty citrus]

Yeah lmao

[somber oak]

Racing through London Loop, I just noticed the traffic light at the first turn with the arrow barrier. It's green, even when the road is inaccessible. Would've been a cool detail if the light was red when the road is blocked by an arrow barrier and green when it's open.

[lusty citrus]

I updated my list

And btw it's not ordered

[daring moss]

ExciteBike in F

Baby Park in F

Sky Garden so high dang

[mint mural]

Sky Garden 8DX great

[woeful stump]

wtf

excitebike hate

[river trail]

Good

[true bison]

Maple Treeway and Choco Mountain in A

[lusty citrus]

Ok so

Yeah, we all know it

It's not a very good remake

But imo it's still a pretty good track even with the changes

[daring moss]

[lusty citrus]

Also a lot of gba tracks change when remade so it's not a big surprise a part of it's layout was changed

[daring moss]

But it’s almost comical how much worse the track got

Almost

Very short

Bland layout

Bland looks

Bland creativity

[trail tartan]

...there is a difference between "a part" and "much". The maps of the two are quite different.

[lusty citrus]

Still good

[trail tartan]

I actually have had the new Sky Garden grow on me a bit. Not too much, but still alright with it now...

[lusty citrus]

To me, track lenght has never really mattered to me if a track is good or not

A track can be good if short

[daring moss]

Not me I still have it with all of my being

[daring moss]

True…

[trail tartan]

But I still heavily prefer the original course.

[daring moss]

is still good even though it small

[lusty citrus]

Idk how it's not creative when it's literally the only 2nd track in all of mario kart that takes place in the sky

[trail tartan]

Which is a shame as the GBA remakes are the ones I usually hold up as the gold standard for 8's Retros.

[daring moss]

I just don’t like the change of the road from blue to orange

[lusty citrus]

Yeah i also didn't like that change, the og road was better but the new one still pops off

Altough way less than the original

Imo

[lusty citrus]

Ig?

That is really subjective more than anything

But i hate how one of the things they changed was just

Giving it a long straightaway

[daring moss]

Most Mario Kart opinions are subjective

[lusty citrus]

Definitely

Another thing that i think is very interesting about sky garden is that it's one of the only few SELECT tracks that has those things you can bounce from

I'll give it that

Overall to me the layout is decent altough the original is better

Like by far

It's a track i like to play on from time to time but it would've been better if they sticked to the original source

[somber oak]

I'll always be more disappointed with Cheese Land's changes than Sky Garden's

[lusty citrus]

Ok no

We are not going there

[daring moss]

No more mouses 0/10

[lusty citrus]

Cheese land slander 😭

[lusty citrus]

They prob removed them cuz nintendo hates using enemies that aren't the same 20 they got

Lmao

[somber oak]

I will not stand for Lil' Mouser erasure

[lusty citrus]

They got relegated to only being in yoshi games

[somber oak]

And I liked the night sky, "the moon is made of cheese" look more

[daring moss]

Rat should be here

[trail tartan]

Ribbon Road is best GBA remake. Agreed, disagreed or Boo Lake?

[daring moss]

Ye

[lusty citrus]

Probably yeah

Ribbon road feels like an 8 nitro track really

Wait no GO BACK

[somber oak]

Not a fan of the wavy ribbon part, but I do love what they did with the theme

[daring moss]

for the funny ribbon road for the vibes

[lusty citrus]

I think i'd say the worst gba remake is probably sky garden

[trail tartan]

I agreed. 2nd worst...that's probably Snow Land, but I still like Snow Land quite a lot.

As I've said, I feel GBA tracks are mostly treated like royalty in 8 Deluxe.

[lusty citrus]

Yeah no, snow land is epic

I love snow land for how simple it is

and that mushroom cut

[trail tartan]

You did catch where I said I still like it, right?

[lusty citrus]

Yeah

[trail tartan]

Sky Garden's the only GBA remake I feel kinda fails as one.

The other 6 are all excellent!

[lusty citrus]

Ribbon road and cheese land changed a lot but they still resembled their original counterparts

Sky garden just...added a long straightaway

Oh and more stuff that did not help it

Forgot that part

It's literally just a totally different track

[trail tartan]

Really wanna see more Double Dash tracks as if Waluigi Stadium is any indication, it's also getting treated like royalty in the Booster Course Pack.

[daring moss]

Wario colosseum when

Pretty pleas Nintendo

[lusty citrus]

Double dash tracks surely exist

Tbh i would agree with people saying mario kart dd is one of the best mario kart game if it had more content cuz the game only haveing 16 tracks really makes it off for me

[lusty citrus]

Yeah i am sure more will come by

[trail tartan]

How the game handles is too much of a downer for me. Not a fan of it.

But the tracks? By god, I've LOVED those in later Mario Karts!

[lusty citrus]

Yeah also that

It has REALLY touchy, sensitive controls

[daring moss]

Ok but it so silly and goofy

[lusty citrus]

I love how base 8dx decided to bring back the 2 worst ones

And then bring baby park back to add up to the injury

[trail tartan]

I'd say Peach Beach was the worst personally, not either of the ones 8 brought back.

[lusty citrus]

I like peach beach

It's a decent track

[trail tartan]

And I like Dry Dry Desert and Sherbet Land...admittedly, the latter not as much but still...

[lusty citrus]

Also i bet if nintendo brings it back the cataquacks will be removed

[trail tartan]

I miss the Tornado in 8's version of Dry Dry Desert.

[lusty citrus]

Dry dry desert is one of the most boring desert tracks by far imo, and i love how 8 added an oasis to it altough it's supposed tocbe DRY

Sherbet land is just really wide and it has no idea of what it wants to be, it has skating shy guys, a cave, water sections, normal ice sections with freezies...it just won't choose man

[lusty citrus]

That would've made it a bit less worse

[somber oak]

Dry Dry Desert is based on the location in Paper Mario, I believe, which has an oasis.

[lusty citrus]

Eh

I wouldn't say it's based off that

Also if it was based on it, it should've had an oasis from the very start if you ask me

[somber oak]

Point I'm making is that an oasis isn't out of place in a place called Dry Dry Desert

[lusty citrus]

Water ≠ dry

[somber oak]

(They just had to make the sphynx a Hammer Bro instead of a Koopa Troopa to not even allow the slightest connection to Tutankoopa)

[daring moss]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mariokart/comments/13bz7g0/the_future_of_mario_kart_tour_along_with_nitros/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

[lusty citrus]

Tbf, the mario wiki could say smth about it maybe being related to paper mario in some way, but i didn't really find anything...

Also isn't it funnt how there is also a place called dry dry ruins in paper mario

[trail tartan]

Just decided to see if I could list off tracks that don't feature any gliding, underwater or anti-gravity just now...correct me if I'm wrong on any of these?

GCN Yoshi Circuit
Excitebike Arena
SNES Rainbow Road
SNES Mario Circuit 3
GBA Snow Land
Tour London Loop
GBA Riverside Park
DS Mario Circuit

Not including Cannon segments adds...
DS Waluigi Pinball
Wii DK Summit

[somber oak]

I've looked and there's no mention of a connection, but I won't dismiss the possibility that it's inspired by the Paper Mario Dry Dry Desert, but I can also see the coincidence with the typical Mario naming convention.

[true bison]

Super Bell Subway has one gliding section right before the end

[somber oak]

I would love a proper Paper Mario track though.

[trail tartan]

Thanks for reminder.

[true bison]

you're welcome

Maple Treeway also has a cannon segment

[trail tartan]

Yeah, but it also has a usual gliding segment near the end.

[true bison]

yupppp

[trail tartan]

Whereas IIRC, Waluigi Pinball and DK Summit have only their cannons.

[lusty citrus]

Imagine if waluigi pinball had anti gravity tho

[mint mural]

Here’s my ranking of the GBA remakes in 8DX

1. Riverside Park
2. Snow Land
3. Sky Garden, Ribbon Road, Boo Lake, Cheese Land
4. Mario Circuit

Riverside, not only looks awesome, but also incorporates new elements that make it superior to the original especially with the Ptooies and music

Snow Land looks amazing, sounds amazing, and has penguins

Sky Garden, while getting shortened still id say is really enjoyable, it’s music is awesome, and I like the addition of mushroom platforms. Ribbon Road takes major creative liberties in its new incarnation and it’s awesome, just the music is eh. Boo Lake is certainly an odd choice, but a strong welcomed one, with the spooky atmosphere and music. Cheese Land is also awesome, and the use of sax for its remix is amazing, and feels so alive now

Mario Circuit isn’t bad by any means, just not anything revolutionary, though it looks great, ultra hands are a nice addition and the music uses a beta version which has always been better

Here’s my ranking of the Tour GBA remakes

1. Yoshi Desert
2. Bowsers Castle 4
3. Cheep Cheep Island
4. Sunset Wilds
5. Bowsers Castle 2
6. Bowsers Castle 1
7. Bowsers Castle 3 (never liked this one anyways)

[lusty citrus]

Gotta be honest with you guys

Idc a lot for riverside

It's one of my lesser favorite gba remakes

Graphics wise? Sure it's good

But the layout is too simple for my tastes and the ptooies don't add much to the experience

I don't find myself replaying it much but by no means it's bad

Oh also the music is uh

Yeah

[mint mural]

Dang

[lusty citrus]

I always see base game and dlc as opposites

Basegame has hd tracks but they aren't that good mostly, while the dlc's tracks don't stand iut graphically but are very fun ti play on usually

Riverside fell under the mario kart 8 basegame curse really

[mint mural]

Aren’t that good?

Opinions and whatnot, but do you mean for all 48 or just the nitros

[lusty citrus]

Not all of them lmao

But yeah, the nitros and a lot of retris aren't that good to me

[mint mural]

Fair I suppose

I’d say 8 comes close to 7 with its retros, but is the best when it comes to nitros

Strong hot take I know

From base 16 nitros, there is only a few that I will flat out not play

From the other nitros of the Wii U dlc, it’s like half and half for me

And I love both Sky High and Yoshis Island

[lusty citrus]

Fair ig

[mint mural]

Also I will call SHS and YI a 8DX nitro track till the day I die

So what if they were designed for Tour? They were put in 8DX first lol

Anyway I have a theory about if Wii Koopa Cape gets into the BCP

As it makes sense, this would be based off of the Tour version, which for the underwater portion doesn’t have a stream or obstacles

https://youtu.be/vcEKFt0gEmo

Ok so like hear me out

They make the underwater section, anti grav

[river trail]

This for me but almost in reverse

[mint mural]

The underwater portion would be anti grav, allowing for those spin boosters to be placed onto the track, allowing you to get extra speed, replacing the stream from the original

[river trail]

1. Cheese Land, Ribbon Road
2. Mario Circuit
3. Riverside Park, Boo Lake
4. Snow Land, Sky Garden

[mint mural]

And the spinning obstacles from Wii would return, but not be electricity

As we’ve seen that they will add obstacles to the 8DX version and leave them out of the Tour version like with Riverside Park

And making the water section anti grav also makes sense as the waterfall right before is like a 90 degree drop so it could incorporate it perfectly

Actually exactly like this custom track

https://youtu.be/bRrLey0co5Q

[true bison]

[karmic tangle]

just found out double dash luigi circuit has an easier layout on 50cc
are there any other tracks in the games that change the layout in 50cc?

it removes the chain chomp shortcut path & adds a wall so you can't collide into racers head on

[light patrol]

Wtf

I had no idea

[trail tartan]

Can someone see if that's true with the DS Retro version too?

[warped aspen]

I'm pretty sure that's the same case because I thought that the gated part was exclusive to DS and not based on the CC.

I can double check tho

[warped aspen]

OK I checked and it does not have the gated section on 50cc

Grabbed a screenshot to show proof

The MarioWiki confirms this, the barriers are completely gone in the DS version

[true bison]

it never did

[urban musk]

Kind of Choco Mountain 64.
They ditch the guard rail at 150

[inland gyro]

you didn't know ?

man you guys didn't know

okay

[true bison]

I knew

not sure if thats surprising or not, coming from the mario kart nerd

[lusty citrus]

Tracks ordered by how long they take

[true bison]

is this by a certain speed? or just 200cc?

[inland gyro]

i think that's 150

[trail tartan]

On top of not being a big Double Dash fan, I NEVER play Mario Kart at 50cc. So how would I know?

[karmic tangle]

Ya who plays 50cc

I was playing on 50cc because I want to see how slow it was... It's not that slow
And I want to play a certain version of Mario Kart with my buddies. I will record a video of that (just a brief part in a larger video)

[lusty citrus]

200cc is my main to go mode

I normally also go for 150 and 150 mirror usually

But everything else? No thanks

[mint mural]

Ooooo I just saw a leaked course for the next Mario Kart Tour... uh tour. Very excited for it if its true

[lusty citrus]

I wanna see

[mint mural]

I heard, not actually saw

I’ll tell you in the Tour + 8DX leaks thread

[mint mural]

https://twitter.com/mariokarttourEN/status/1656554737045733376?t=xUEiov-RkP4YqxbTHRRUXg&s=19

Mario Kart Tour (@mariokarttourEN)

It's a bit early, but here's a sneak peek at the next tour in #MarioKartTour! It looks like the stage will be set on a course with a giant bridge. Can you feel the thrill of a race about to begin on this lush green island?

Likes

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206

Twitter · May 11, 2023, 7:00 AM

[lusty citrus]

I am dissapointment

[daring moss]

Zamn the sides of the bridge is drivable

Also the sidewalk

Truly captures the spirit of driving in America

[jovial orbit]

The Return of Bob-omb Car

Gotta love how alot of these car tracks don't have lanes in both directions.

[true bison]

[true bison]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

so its either this or daisy cruiser for wave 5

oh no

[warped aspen]

Or technically DK Mountain or Dino Dino Jungle, but those feel more suited towards Wave 6

[true bison]

[trail tartan]

Come to 8 Deluxe please, Bridge...

That's one of my most wanted GCN tracks.

[mint mural]

Same

It looks so good too

[trail tartan]

Not just Bo-omb car...I spy Mushroom Car too.

[warped aspen]

I wonder if the Wiggler Bus will return as well. I feel like it would since they already brought back the Bob-omb Car and the Mushroom Car, but we'll just have to wait and see

[mint mural]

Apparently Wiggler Bus was dataminded, which is also how we knew about Mushroom Bridge coming

[daring moss]

Got bored and ranked all the tracks based on how much I want to live there

[lusty citrus]

I can't see it tbh

Bridge is very easy and at this point we should probably getting harder tracks

What if we got both tho?

[daring moss]

Daisy Cruiser is more marketable tho

[lusty citrus]

Definitely

And it fits more with summer

[trail tartan]

I don't really care about the logic of "it should be harder at this point" myself.

[lusty citrus]

It's obvious the next wave will come out on summer

[lusty citrus]

Ok so

Compare toad circuit and 3ds rainbow road

[trail tartan]

No. Cos I don't care about that logic.

Though if you really want me to go ahead and do so...Ninja Hideaway VS Riverside Park.

I just care about getting neat tracks. Whether they are trickier than the last set, I don't really care heavily about within a DLC cup.

Leaving building up Difficulty IMO to base-game tracks.

[lusty citrus]

Wave 4 resets this tho

Since it's the second half of the wavee

We are back to easier tracks

[trail tartan]

Sure we are...sure...I wouldn't call too much of Wave 4 "easier" rather than just better.

Will just say that if we got harder or easier, I wouldn't care TBH. I just want to see tracks I like again returning.

Mushroom Bridge is in that crowd, so I'm happy to see it potentially return.

[lusty citrus]

Yeah but amsterdam, ds mc, singapour and riverside are all pretty easy tracks, and the you can't fall off a lot from any of the other tracks either

Just saying

[trail tartan]

You know I could throw the likes of Merry Mountain, London Loop and Apline Pass out as easy tracks too, right?

Plus, the Mario Circuit they put in was a Star Cup track originally. So...

[lusty citrus]

Ok i would take merry mountain and london loop, but rrr is much more complicated than other tracks due to its gliding really

[lusty citrus]

Usual badly placed track spotted

[trail tartan]

Complicated, yes. Hard? No.

[lusty citrus]

Complicated

[karmic tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-let-him-cook-cook-cooking-breaking-bad-gif-27522167

[true bison]

"Enjoyable Living"

Every single Bowsers Castle in the same tier

[mint mural]

Yeah true it looks amazing

[warped aspen]

I mean it is a castle, you know there's got to be some luxury to it.

[true bison]

Yeah, I'm not so sure about that
a bunch of them are just big rooms with a lava floor and a few islands. One of them has a freaking bomb installed. at least 3 of them have a moving a flame throwing statue that may or may not kill you if you got squished by fists or caught in the giant fireball. and not to mention the temperature in these places

[mint mural]

Ok yeah after watching the Mushroom Bridge Tour trailer, somebody actually cooked. Not only are most of the shortcuts back, except for the pipe one but that's useless, but they also kept the Mushroom City cameo in the background

[daring moss]

[warped aspen]

I also saw the Wiggler Bus there as well

[mint mural]

True

[daring moss]

Anyone recommend some good ol’ Mario kart clones?

[light patrol]

Madagascar Kartz for the Wii

Ifk if it's actually good but I remember it being fun as a kid

[daring moss]

hmmm i'll check it out

Superfifa119 recommends it

[jovial orbit]

There was an M&M racing game, but I don't recall whether it was any good.
It was pre- brown and purple mascot candies, so RIP character variety.

[daring moss]

Might try and make a giant list of mario kart clones like what Yosh has with his visual novels

[daring moss]

Playing Madagascar Kartz right now and I have been enlightened this is peak gaming

[somber oak]

I used to play Konami Krazy Racers and Crash Nitro Kart on GBA. They're pretty good as far as I remember. Both have fun rosters of characters.

[daring moss]

Yosh I’m sorry but Madagascar Kartz for the Nintendo Wii sucks

There’s only nine tracks, the controls are so finicky, and the game wasn’t even play-tested

I accidentally clipped through the ground twice

I did play as the penguins tho and they were neat

All of the tracks were D tier Mario Kart tracks

Except for the freight one that one was like a B tier

Also the New York cup only has one track that takes place in Bew York

This could be considered a flaw, however i actually think it was the devs making a political statement on how America will use all means necessary to further their goals by taking land rich with oil away from nations that cannot stand up to the overwhelming might of the United States of America

Also Shrek is playable and that is neat but I did not unlock him

Very sad

Also also wtf does this game have 200cc

It does not deserve 200cc

Feels like a s||hif||tpost

[daring moss]

https://tenor.com/view/dry-bones-gif-22124744

Silly little goober I love him

[inland gyro]

aside from CTR uhh

does Sonic Riders count

[jovial orbit]

Any with good draws (besides different rosters)?

Would Modnation Racers for the PS3 count?

[daring moss]

I don’t think Sonic Riders counts but I is very good

Idk what Modnation Racers is

[trail tartan]

Modnation Racers is a good one.

As for other suggestions from my side...Sonic All Stars Racing is a thing, as are it's sequels.

Lego Racers is an odd-ball one from when I was younger.

Pac-Man has a Kart Racer IIRC. Pac-Man Kart Rally?

And last one from me right now. There are 3 Nickelodeon Kart Racers on current hardware and one of my friends plays the 2nd ontry a lot.

[daring moss]

I see

Lego Racers sounds interesting

I like legos and racers

[mint mural]

Ok let’s settle this here, and now

Blue Shells / Spiny Shells: Should they be winged?

[left lagoon]

It makes more sense

[mint mural]

Personally, I’m in the camp where I think they shouldn’t be winged.

[left lagoon]

Why do they fly if they have no wings

[mint mural]

Ok wait lemme rephrase my question

Ok let’s settle this here, and now

Blue Shells / Spiny Shells: Should they fly over the racers, or travel across the ground?

[left lagoon]

Fly

It looks awesome

r

[mint mural]

Not for me, it looks cool yeah, but when you get it, it’s when you are in the middle of the pack, so it doesn’t really benefit you, more so the people that are 2nd and in 3rd. Allowing it to travel across the ground gives you an edge in terms of catching up

[trail tartan]

Travel along ground, yeah. Though should still be winged.

[daring moss]

Traveling along the ground is more useful

Cuz who benefits from a blue shell?

It’s the people in 2nd or 3rd

Not someone in 8th place where you normally get it

Hitting a bunch of opponents in front of you is beneficial to you

[keen ice]

https://youtu.be/W0sDbGpUvgE This is something that I want to be an official Mario Kart game. A Boss Track sounds genius

[daring moss]

KnexTrackmaster

Takes me back

So based

[light patrol]

This was the first youtube channel I ever watched

[warped aspen]

Yeah very early YouTube channel I watched as well.

[river trail]

I loved their stuff back in the day

I feel so old saying that

[warped aspen]

Yeah, I don't think I've internalized it completely, feels weird that I've been watching YouTube since 2016

[daring moss]

How would you guys feel about this? I personally prefer three weight classes

[mint mural]

Mf what are you watchung

[somber oak]

This looks like a poor attempt to cure the meta

And even if all characters have the same stats, there'll still be a preference for characters that take up less off the screen. I know from playing CTR:NF that using a light-weight character with heavy-weight stats has clear advantages over characters that are naturally heavy-weights because of their size.

That's also why Metal Mario had a huge advantage in MK7

There's also more than 3 weight classes in MK8. There are sub-classes, which put Metal Mario and Pink Gold Peach in their own class rather than just being mid-sized heavy-weights, which is a good thing.
The 2-class proposal gives a clear advantage to smaller characters in the same class. While not a huge deal for me, it still does more bad than good.

[karmic tangle]

Splitting shy guys and Yoshi's up doesn't make sense

[somber oak]

Having Shy Guy in heavy at all makes no sense

But that would be the meta right there: The advantage of a smaller frame that blocks less of the screen and allows for tighter cornering around walls and passing through narrow gaps, while still having the top speed of a heavy-weight.

Shy Guy would be more broken that Metal Mario was in Mario Kart 7

[daring moss]

https://youtu.be/SXIaQNj64dc

[lusty citrus]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I DIDN'T KNOW HE UPLOADED

[daring moss]

Watches video
He immediately ranks one of my favorites at the bottom

Boo Lake is number 18

[lusty citrus]

...dang

Broken pier, lakeside park and yoshi desert in the bottom....

This aint it man

[daring moss]

Rare Schaffrillas L

[mint mural]

||More like common ||

[warped aspen]

Broken Pier and Lakeside I get because they have some rather unfair elements to them, but Yoshi Desert is the one I'm iffy on since it's one of my favorites.

[true bison]

Yoshi Desert is just kinda eh

[warped aspen]

Also I should have mentioned I just recently played through Super Circuit for the first time so I could finish that tier list I created a while back.

[trail tartan]

Snow Land is bottom for me cos shaking screen.

Will watch the vid once at my computer. Phone isn't agreeing with Youtube ATM...

[warped aspen]

Honestly the shaking doesn't bother me. Like yeah it's annoying but I can still concentrate on the race.
I do understand if it's hard for some people though, I can see those with motion sickness not liking the track.

[daring moss]

Spent an hour writing a response to the unfair treatment the big crab guy gave to boo lake

Unfortunately, I heavily disagree with some (by some I mean most) of your placements of these fine courses. While some were unfairly judged such as Bowser Castle 4, Cheep-Cheep Island, and so on and so forth. The track which I feel receives the worst judgement by far is Boo Lake This amazing piece of artwork belongs in a museum for it’s life changing narrative, it’s amazing track design, and for it’s astounding atmosphere. I am here to explain while Boo Lake is awesome and why you are a big fat meanie. (I kidding you are cool)
First of all, the name: Boo Lake. What iconic two words. You do not need anything else to describe this outstanding track. There are boos and a lake. Nothing complex is needed here, just a basic simple but memorable name. It is such a cool contrast to what is otherwise a bright and cheery cup.
Second, the boos themselves. Look at them, they are so adorable and scary at the same time. They add so much depth to the track. Also have you seen that despite the dark atmosphere, there is light. This is actually explained by the boos. As they are holding candles to allow the racers to see.

Know, as you said, there is no lake. Which is true, but this is actually a massive lore dump on these boos. Now, we know that the Mario gang would have to have gotten permission to race along Boo Lake. But why would the Boos allow this when Mario and his pals have been so hostile to their race in the past? Well, the answer is simple. The Boos are desperate. They need money from the Mario gang to bring back their lake and bring life back to the area. We know they need money because they are too poor to afford lamp posts, having to hold the candles instead. And as we see in Mario Kart 8, they fulfilled their goal! The lake is back, and the boos are happy to live their afterlives in peace. Plus, they have enough cash to afford lamp posts! They accidentally destroyed part of the boardwalk getting the lake back, but now they are raising money to fix it. Dang, Mario Kart lore is so deep why does no one talk about it?

Now onto the layout of the track, while it may not look like it at first glance, there is in all actuality so much hidden depth to this track. Boo Lake is like an onion, it can be sauteed for a sweet flavor. Some people may complain about how closed in the track feels, with the walls falling off after being hit. But in reality, this is actually a genius invisible tutorial for drifting. The game is teaching you that hitting the side of the track is bad actually. It won’t start making you fall off of the track until the second time you go through the track. You aren’t gonna do well in some of the tougher tracks if you can’t drift through tight corners. Yet another of Boo Lakes many accomplishments.
In addition Boo Lake is the introduction of what I like to call “Hidden Pathways”. You see there is this small almost invisible blue pathway that is actually a neat little shortcut. However, you can only make proper use of it if you are able to turn the corner correctly. Rewarding good play with a faster route, better than any track before or since has done. There are a few more of these hidden pathways in the game. I know there is one in either Lakeside or Riverside park I forgor which one it was.

There is also this small shortcut that can be seen on the map. This is a neat little shortcut that you need to really think about using. Sure is faster, but it’s also very risky. What if someone hits you with a shell on it? You could fall right off of the track and into the empty lake below. Gosh Boo Lake has so much thought and detail put into it.
Now for the background and atmosphere and all that stuff. All the trees around the “lake” are dead. Out of universe it sets up the dreary atmosphere amazingly. But in universe it shows the effects of the lake being drained. How damaging it is to the Boo’s environment. In the background we can clearly see a giant mansion. Now a beta male would say that is simply for looking cool and fitting in with the spooky vibe. But a true Chad would see it as the reason the lake is drained. With the 1% soaking up all the value and leaving the masses with nothing. You may not have expected the game with tony soprano in it to make such bold political statements but that’s simply the magic of Boo Lake.

As for the music, well this is obvious. The empty feeling this song has been representative of the emptiness of the lake. Showing how desperate the Boo’s are for their lake to be filled. They need this lake in order to survive. The track is unfulfilling and that is the point. A majority of people, dead or alive, cannot survive when the 1% hoards all of the supplies.
For all of these reasons and a million more that I do not have time to type out, Boo Lake should be at the very least an S tier track. That fact that you could not see the brilliance of this magnificent track is astounding. C tier is not good enough for this wonderful, outstanding, amazing, perfect track.
Also Broken Pier is good because it reminds me of Pumpkin Hill from Sonic Adventure 2.

[true bison]

so true about pumpkin hill

[lusty citrus]

What

[daring moss]

yes

boo lake

it epic

I love it

It's now a twiiter thread plz retweet and sub and like and all that stuff https://twitter.com/JiggsMain/status/1659289094818525187

JiggsMain (@JiggsMain)

Why Schaffrillas is wrong about Boo Lake being mid (a thread 1/?):

Twitter · May 18, 2023, 8:05 PM

[river trail]

Guys we have to fight against this Boo Lake slander

Let's all comment this copypasta on the video

[daring moss]

I already did

[keen ice]

yessir

Also since the original Mario Kart Thread got replace, I just wanted to remind about an ideal Universal Cup.

Super Nintendo World (The theme park) - Basically driving around the theme park and certain locations in the theme park

||The Jungle Kingdom|| (Super Mario Bros Movie) - ||The track can be similar to the Driving scene and could also have nice references from DK||

Bowser Jr's Shadow Showdown (from the Super Nintendo World) - Lap 1 could be a simple race in the castle, but once Lap 2 hits, Your character will be a shadow silhouette while you'll leave a trail of paint, the Track will become invisible, and the The background will change from green bricks to a Night Light Canyon where it will show the hazards and arrows. The Final Lap is where things get really interesting. The trail of paint will show signs of the track and shortcuts, while the hazards start to escalate with more bombs and silhouettes of Clown Cars.

And The Rainbow Road Chase (The Mario Movie) - Similar to the last Movie track, but this time it'll be like the scene, there will be Koopa Racers that'll be hazards while you race. Meaning you have to focus on you're opponents and the Koopa's that try to attack you. Each Lap will bring more and deadlier Koopas, and The Koopa General is the most dangerous. You can destroy the cars that the Koopa's drive in, but they will not effect you're placing in the race.

[daring moss]

So cool it awesomely

[urban musk]

New copy-pasta dropped

[lusty citrus]

||i just hope it isn't playing take on me why was that song there||

[keen ice]

||Yeah the music that was cut should be the theme||

[true bison]

https://youtu.be/zsWXcu7j0WQ

[mint mural]

Gud vid 👍

[somber finch]

It sounds like this week is when the next wave of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe comes out.

I guess we missed this information.

[true bison]

where did you hear that from?

[mint mural]

Source: He made it the fuck up

[somber finch]

No, I'm not the one making it up. It appears as a graphic in this video.
https://youtu.be/sD6xZRh_-jI

[river trail]

Where?

[somber finch]

It has a Booster Course Pass icon on that red graphic.

[river trail]

Hasn't it always been? Or am I mistaken?

Besides, Octo Expansion is on there as well, wouldn't that mean a new Octo Expansion comes out this week as well?

[somber finch]

He says something about whether or not there's going to be a Nintendo Direct, but if it's confirmed the Mario Advance games release on May 26th and there's been no direct by now, that might validate his claim, but that does seem bizarre to release stuff without a direct or at the very least, it's happening this week.

[river trail]

Octo Expansion this week?

[trail tartan]

I don't see it personally. I'm more inclined to think that we're getting Wave 5 in likely July myself.

If anything, I think a tease of Wave 5 is more likely this...well, week, I guess. lol

Then a full reveal in a direct within the next two months.

[lusty citrus]

I hope we get it in late junw

Nintendo always surprises us with mario kart, so we never know when it'll come out

[warped aspen]

So as I continue to work on my full Mario Kart Tier list, I've fully played through Super Circuit's track! Took me a bit to get the controls down, but I had an enjoyable time with the game once it clicked. It's obviously not the most ambitious game out of the series, but it was cool to see what elements were either emphasized by SMK/MK64 or would influence later entries in the series.
As for my ranking, I feel like there isn't anything that controversial outside of one or two tracks. I might change the tier in the future, but I feel content with most of these placements. But yeah, pretty decent game all things considered!

[lusty citrus]

Seems good enough to me, i'f just put ribbon road higher that is it

[daring moss]

Yo BC4 in A! Based!

Dang Boo Lake in B. I gotta write another rant

[mint mural]

I love all of the courses in Super Circuit, all S tier

Except for Peach Circuit and Bowser Castle 1

[daring moss]

Mario Circuit:

[mint mural]

I personally like Mario Circuit

Nah, most would go into A and then the few that would go into S

Then like most of the circuits into B

[daring moss]

Let me try and find my super circuit tier list real quick

Dang can’t find it I’ll make one when I get home

I have my rankings written down on my computer

[warped aspen]

Honestly I really wanted to like the original Ribbon Road, I can see a lot of its strengths at full force with the visual and layout. However, what brings it down for me is the off-road. How slow you suddenly become and the presents that can just block you and you just have to ram through it until slide off it because there's no reverse button.
It was really annoying to me. And it wouldn't be so bad if all the boost panels, jump ramps, and just the general layout didn't easily send you into the off-road.

[warped aspen]

That's because the B Tier stands for "Boo Lake"

[mint mural]

The C in Carson stands for Cringe 😡😡

[daring moss]

ok here's mine

[mint mural]

Why Yoshi Desert and Lakeside Park so low

[daring moss]

Didn’t like em

Yoshi desert was just super bland

The sand pits didn’t add much

[lusty citrus]

We don'y accept yoshi desett slander in this household

[daring moss]

Yoshi sphinx is nice tho

Understood, I shall go kill myself now

[true bison]

shinx

[daring moss]

As they say in china, arrivederci

[lusty citrus]

As they say in guatemala, bon appetit

[true bison]

I don't get Yoshi Desert either

other than sunset wids, that pretty much goes for most desert tracks for me

[lusty citrus]

I really like yoshi desert cuz it has a pretty neat theme imo

It has a yoshi sphynx, sand pits and a cool looking oasis

The music also slaps imo and the track itself is fun to go through

[mint mural]

GBA Boo Lake reference in the Mario Movie?

[lusty citrus]

Maybe?

[mint mural]

it cant be peaches castle, nor bowsers castle

[daring moss]

https://tenor.com/view/wooooh-cat-shocked-no-way-gif-12799757

[true bison]

despite the language barrier I'd highly reccomend this persons stuff. its pretty good
https://youtu.be/hBpRUxd4TOc

[daring moss]

No way Mario Kart irl

[mint mural]

https://twitter.com/mariokarttourEN/status/1661613065383845890?t=ktvO5LESn-gChGjlxIPikA&s=19

Mario Kart Tour (@mariokarttourEN)

Here's a sneak peek of what's to come in #MarioKartTour! Looks like the next tour is set in a beautiful port town with a color palette like a sunset. Don't let the relaxed atmosphere fool you, though: some intense races are about to begin here!

Likes

2037

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Twitter · May 25, 2023, 6:00 AM

[river trail]

Those colors...

🤢

[daring moss]

https://tenor.com/view/melon-cat-eating-stop-gif-17541744

Skybox looks too brown

[river trail]

poopy clouds

[daring moss]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/we-are-daisy/images/b/ba/640px-LuigiDaisyStatue.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20160115181004

Looked fine in Wii

Was one of the prettiest tracks there

Wait where are the piñatas

Piantas

Gone rip

[river trail]

Paintas

[daring moss]

The water sucks so hard

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/mariokart/images/6/6e/Daisy_Circuitpic.png/revision/latest?cb=20130828021822

Piss water > poopy clouds

[urban musk]

they ditched the sky gradient

I don't get it

And they darkened the clouds

I mean it's more realistic but it's also not?

[true bison]

They really just decided to bring this track back huh

[mint mural]

I'd really like to see another circuit track come back too. Like maybe Mario Raceway or GBA Luigi Circuit or hell even Wii Mario Circuit

[true bison]

ehhhhh

[mint mural]

No?

I just like seeing the changes they make to the circuit tracks

[mint mural]

One thing that I will say that the BCP does better than the original 8 DLC, is that it feels more consistent in its difficulty of tracks. Like Triforce cup starts out with Wii Warios Gold Mine and SNES Rainbow Road is second. Then Bell cup starts with Neo Bowser City, like it's all over the place

[daring moss]

https://youtu.be/VEzupWnQoaI

Did not expect peach circuit

[river trail]

I hate to be constantly shitting on Tour but like

It's worse than the original

From the two shots it looks like the most generic Mario Kart track ever made

Completely soulless

[mint mural]

Oh really? I don't think so

Yeah sure it looks generic but it is a circuit track from GBA

[true bison]

my biggest concern is what happened to Daisy Cruiser

[mint mural]

It's on the other side now

[lusty citrus]

Nintendo doesn't like them anymore, so they must be eRRADICATED FROM EARTH

[lusty citrus]

Something you should always learn about mario kart tour devs is that

They suck hard at coloring

Lmao

I like the new daisy circuit background, but i miss the original gradient

Track still looks pretty good imo

Anyways, is it just me or does the new peach circuit kind of look like super nintendo world

[true bison]

I has obtained the fish car

[daring moss]

[true bison]

https://youtu.be/ojGGEO83XeA

[true bison]

So I got to play the new tour today, it was pretty nice

Daisy Cruiser is now out in the ocean instead of the Harbour. So happy they didn't just remove it

[warped aspen]

That makes sense. Like since Daisy Cruiser is already in as a stage it would be really odd if they didn't include it back in.

(Then again they made the Yoshi Sphinx exclusive to GBA Yoshi Desert, removing it from Dry Dry Desert so who knows)

[somber finch]

I'll go along with Daisy Cruiser as long as Mario Kart 8 Deluxe makes it fun.

[true bison]

Daisy Cruiser is not already fun?
how?

[somber finch]

I haven't played Tour.

[mint mural]

Saying that, I think the reason for the Yoshi Sphinx not being in DDR is because it might be a little bit confusing to have it in both, considering they are pretty similar

I really hope either Wii Dry Dry Ruins or GBA Yoshi Desert get into the BCP, they are both awesome courses

[true bison]

[daring moss]

Zamn Yoshi Sphinx ain’t in Dance Dance Revolution

[true bison]

oh yeah there was also GBA Peach Circuit, its okay I guess

[daring moss]

I’ll have to try these out later

Shoot I realized I forgot to get Kamek

[true bison]

[true bison]

https://youtu.be/BFL2pJw-7ts

[warped aspen]

Huh, I just realized that, with the exception of Wii, we have every Mario Kart circuit theme in 8 Deluxe.

Neat

[mint mural]

I want a circuit track from Wii so we can say we have an offical version of every circuit theme in 8

Probably not gonna happen tho

[warped aspen]

Yeah. Though I guess there are technically two circuit themes in Wii with Luigi/Mario Circuit and Daisy Circuit.

[mint mural]

I kinda consider Daisy Circuit it's own thing, while M/L Circuit are the basic shit. It what, at least i think of, when hearing Wii Circuit Theme said

[daring moss]

https://twitter.com/mariokarttourEN/status/1666686494961184776

Mario Kart Tour (@mariokarttourEN)

It's a bit early, but here's a sneak peek at the next tour in #MarioKartTour! Looks like three new courses will make their debuts all at once. Be careful not to slip on their towering ramps and hairpin curves! One gets the sense that some intense matches are about to begin!

Likes

2079

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Twitter · Jun 8, 2023, 6:00 AM

please don't put Mario Raceway in BCP please don't put Mario Raceway in BCP please don't put Mario Raceway in BCP please don't put Mario Raceway in BCP please don't put Mario Raceway in BCP please don't put Mario Raceway in BCP please don't put Mario Raceway in BCP please don't put Mario Raceway in BCP please don't put Mario Raceway in BCP

[woeful stump]

please put Mario Raceway in BCP please put Mario Raceway in BCP please put Mario Raceway in BCP please put Mario Raceway in BCP please put Mario Raceway in BCP please put Mario Raceway in BCP please put Mario Raceway in BCP please put Mario Raceway in BCP please put Mario Raceway in BCP

[river trail]

please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour please nuke Tour

[woeful stump]

speci speci speci

[river trail]

more like pump zone

[woeful stump]

hey. take it to pump zone.

[true bison]

Luigi Circuit

[warped aspen]

Underated track, glad to see it be remade (again)

[mint mural]

||please stop the Tour hate please stop the Tour hate please stop the Tour hate please stop the Tour hate please stop the Tour hate please stop the Tour hate please stop the Tour hate please stop the Tour hate||

[urban musk]

based

[mint mural]

I hope when Vancouver Velocity comes to 8DX, they keep the ice blocks in the rink portion. While SNES Vanilla Lake doesn’t have a high chance of returning, it’s a good way to pay homage to the course that most likely will be getting overshadowed by Bowser Castle 3

[light patrol]

I wonder what the remix will be like

I really hope they do it justice

it's already one of my favorite song in the entire series tbh

[mint mural]

It’s not a fan favorite for me tbh

Maybe it will be in 8DX tho

Like I hate Singapore in Tour, but I love the remix in 8DX so maybe things will be the same with Vancouver

[light patrol]

I personally prefer the tour version of Singapore actually

[true bison]

I'm hearing some people say it may come to wave 5 because there aren't enough city tracks to fill in. I'm very very excited to see that one come too

[somber oak]

I'd be surprised if even one city track is left out of the Booster Course Pass.

[slate obsidian]

Sadly they'll probably add more in Tour after the BCP is done, meaning unless we get another BCP, some city tracks will inevitably be forever exclusive to Tour.

[mint mural]

Unless they go crazy and announce another pass

[slate obsidian]

I just said that

[mint mural]

Ok and?

[slate obsidian]

Anyways... do you guys think we'll get that one underwater course?

[mint mural]

Piranha Plant Cove?

[slate obsidian]

Yeah, that one

[mint mural]

100% yes

There's no doubt in my mind that they don't include it

[slate obsidian]

That might as well be considered a city course, cuz it's basically Atlantis lol

[mint mural]

I think its coming next wave tbh

If you've noticed they do
Wave 1: Tour Ninja Hideaway
Wave 2: New Sky High Sundae
Wave 3: Tour Merry Mountain
Wave 4: New Yoshis Island

If we were to follow this logic, the next unmarked course would be a Tour course, so it's probably Piranha Plant Cove

[slate obsidian]

Who are you guys predicting our character(s) will be next wave?

[mint mural]

Probably Petey Piranah, as PPC is heavily themed to Petey

And most likely Diddy Kong

[slate obsidian]

I REALLY hope that Poochy makes it.

[jovial orbit]

It's only logical to release Petey alongside PPC.
Hopefully Diddy as well

[mint mural]

I kinda doubt it since he appears in Yoshis Island

[river trail]

We already got Birdo and Yoshi's Island so I doubt it

[slate obsidian]

They could remove him everytime he's racing on that course

I REALLY don't want Poochy to be forever exclusive to Tour

[mint mural]

I'm kinda sad that Birdo and Kamek weren't in Wave 4 as they both are related to Yoshi in some way

And then it would also be 2 characters per wave which would be nice

[jovial orbit]

Nicer spread than 1/2/3 or 1/3/2

[mint mural]

Cause if Funky comes Wave 6, he's going to overshadow Pauline and Kamek

Also I'm just guessing those are the characters

Those seem like good picks tbh

[slate obsidian]

I mean, I have Poochy in Tour, so I'm good for now, but when Tour inevitably ends, Poochy will probably never be playable in another Mario Kart unless he makes it into the BCP.

[mint mural]

I dont he's never going to playable again after Tour

I could see him getting into another game since he's fairly unique

Same with the likes of Kamek

[slate obsidian]

Poochy is the gudest boi

[mint mural]

Nahhhhh

[slate obsidian]

https://youtube.com/shorts/jkKYl1IqFmE?feature=share3

[mint mural]

Going back to this, I kinda hope there is another BCP. I know it sounds greedy, but there's so many good courses that have come back in Tour that don't need to get shafted after Tour ends

[slate obsidian]

Sadly I don't think it's gonna happen, but I hope Nintendo proves me wrong

Then again, you never know. They could pull a Smash Ultimate and announce a second one.

[mint mural]

I have hope that GBA Yoshi Desert, Wii Dry Dry Ruins, 3DS Wario Shipyard, etc. will make it in

[jovial orbit]

Better come with the 8 falling on it's side and announcing a physical release that comes with the DLC...

[mint mural]

Especially with the likes of TOUR LEAKS / SPOILERS ||Wii Moonview Highway, GBA Lakeside Park and others being dataminded for the game||

[slate obsidian]

I want Koopa Cape, Wii Rainbow Road, Wuhu Loop and/or Maka Wuhu, and Daisy Cruiser

[jovial orbit]

||Any city course leak updates?||

[slate obsidian]

Omg Mario Kart Infinite? That's such a genius idea

[true bison]

not to mention if he is the next character he'll go RIGHT next to king boo on the select screen

becasue they were partners in double dash!!

[mint mural]

Yeah that would be a sweet callback

[jovial orbit]

I hardly think it's clever, but that's kind of what 8 seems to of become.

[slate obsidian]

It's VERY clever. ∞ is literally just a sideways 8

[mint mural]

||For the minute there's only the dataminded Rio course but Madrid is a likely choice for another city||

[mint mural]

Not overly tbh, kinda easy to predict if they do do that route

[slate obsidian]

I didn't think of it until he pointed it out tbf

[mint mural]

Can you imagine if they just re-release MK8DX with the DLC and potentially more DLC, and call it Mario Kart Infinite as a "new game"

[slate obsidian]

Would that be the first game ever to use an infinity symbol in its title? I mean, stuff like Space Invaders: Infinity Gene exists, but that spells out the word rather than using the symbol

[mint mural]

Tf is that

Anyway I feel like there are other games with the infinite symbol

At least there's got to be at least one game with it

[slate obsidian]

A Space Invaders game, what else would it be?

[mint mural]

Well no fucking shit

I dont know the lore

[slate obsidian]

Fun fact: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is not only the bestselling game on the Switch, not only the bestselling Mario Kart game, but also the best selling racing game of all time. Like, in general