career-advice

[polar copper]

well @crimson willow

[slow widget]

Don't worry he'll find out

He's too busy right now

That's wat he told me

[polar copper]

oh okay 😀

[hot pier]

hello everyone. Can anyone verify if we can get admission is BSc computer science after taking chem, phy and math in A levels?.

[marsh dagger]

Yes you can @hot pier

You can get B.Tech itself

[hot pier]

phew thank god that's a relief

thank you@

thank you!* @marsh dagger

[marsh dagger]

You're welcome 😄

[heady wraith]

hello people, do you guys think it is wise to do Further Maths, Biology and Chemistry for my A levels to get into med school?

[slender prism]

Hello! I’m going to complete my IGCSE in a few weeks, like most of u I think. Well, I want to continue with AS & A levels. Whereas, some people here are suggesting me to take IBDP as there are lesser opportunities for A level qualifications to get into universities except in the UK. So.. Confused! Anyone who is doing/or has finished their A levels can clear this for me?

[slow widget]

@slender prism where do you want to study?

[trail owl]

@slender prism A-levels are accepted pretty much everywhere, not just the UK, so it won't really affect your chances of getting into Uni

https://help.cambridgeinternational.org/hc/en-gb/articles/115004302785-Where-are-Cambridge-International-AS-A-Levels-accepted-and-recognised-

[slender prism]

@slow widget I haven’t actually DECIDED.The thing is.. it’s difficult to find A level schools in my place. So, I was focusing more on those than after 12th.

Ok. Thanks @trail owl

[slow widget]

if you're in the sciences, you'll probably need to go to a school for your AS/AL

[elfin mist]

Software engineer or computer science? and what is the difference

Anyone can help. Do i have to do 13 years in school to go to a medical college

[toxic python]

@MynameJeff - Software Engineer is a job held usually after studying Computer Science. For example, after studying medicine (computer science), you could become a doctor (software engineer) or a nurse (Web Developer).

[slow widget]

Should I opt for IBDP after my 10th grade IGCSE?

[trail owl]

@toxic python Only problem with your comparison is that in a lot of cases, the Web developers (nurse) might get paid more than the Software engineers (doctor)

[toxic python]

It's a simple "metaphor" just to add context, don't read too much into it

[trail owl]

I know I know xD

[jagged sonnet]

Broaden your line of work, don't get into something too quickly. Trust me, you're going to regret it

[opaque igloo]

Drop out

[trail owl]

@jagged sonnet speaks the truth here. Make informed decisions.

[jagged sonnet]

^^

[lunar saffron]

@slow widget same dude !

[slow widget]

yass

tbh i am opting for IBDP

The course is pretty detailed

[trail owl]

Ayy nice

I love the IBDP

It's so challenging

[slow widget]

Are you doing IBDP ? @trail owl

[slow widget]

@slow widget nope, Kuro has transcended these heirarchies

@slow widget if the high school diploma programs were a spectrum

Here's a graphical representation of where Kuro would be

[wheat iris]

Chad tbh

[trail owl]

I can't tell if that's a good thing or a bad thing @slow widget

[slow widget]

@trail owl okay

[trail owl]

@slow widget Explain what this has to do with Leviathans

[slow widget]

Nothing particularly, you've ascended the 2D heirarchy of political thought and are battling with the dragons who can't escape it

You are in another dimension

The illustration from the Bible was there because the original meme had JP instead of Kuro and he usually advises people to slay dragons

[trail owl]

Yes slay dragons

[slow widget]

@trail owl https://youtu.be/-kjw4n9oJh8

Lol

[green panther]

idk what to study

i mean why waste good money on university when you could just die

[distant nimbus]

yo im doing a foundation in science and the med school where i'll hopefully be able to twin in the UK or Ireland

[trail owl]

@distant nimbus remember that doing medschool and becoming a doctor is a 10 year commitment

that's all I have to say to the people who haven't really thought their decisions through

Dropout rates amongst medschool students are higher than ever

[steel sable]

Anyone here know much about cybersecurity

[slow widget]

@steel sable what happened?

[steel sable]

Just a future career choice

[trail owl]

@steel sable speak

since you're going to sleep now, we'll continue this tomorrow

[steel sable]

okai

i jus checked

jajaja

jus wanna know what A levels are important for it

but i MIGHT do APs

[trail owl]

CS, English and Maths

[steel sable]

english?????!!!!

oh god

[trail owl]

English isn't important but most unis require it

[slow widget]

english isn't important

[steel sable]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

some people say u need physics and chem

[slow widget]

not chem

[trail owl]

not really, but unis will consider it

[steel sable]

thank god

[trail owl]

in the end it all comes down to unis

[steel sable]

yeahh

i have one i wanna rlly go to

[slow widget]

yeah, shortlist the unis you'll apply to

[steel sable]

they accept 5 igcse passes min

[slow widget]

and then structure your AL around those

[trail owl]

check their average freshman student stats, and they'll be a good indicator of what you should aim for

[steel sable]

so i wanna do APs too so i can idk

[trail owl]

at the least

[steel sable]

ooooo okai

tyyyyy

[trail owl]

you're welcome, no problemo

[polar copper]

@trail owl
just wanted to now
if i take in AS/A IT, Business, Math, english General paper
what course can i do
and also i want to end-up doing MBA

[distant nimbus]

@trail owl and why would you say that I haven't thought my decision out... xd

[slow widget]

hiya

anyone here

good at AS chemistry

i need notes

[trail owl]

@polar copper that sounds like the MBA route. but General paper is kinda useless tbh

@slow widget check the AS Chem ZNotes, and if you have questions, ask in #as-chemistry

[slow widget]

WELP

the znotes arent in depth

infra red isnt discussed

[polar copper]

my school told me that english in as and a levels will get harder by which i won't be able to cope up with @trail owl

[trail owl]

AS English certainly isn't as easy as IG english but most people do JUST AS English for A levels

General paper is 'useless' in the sense that most unis dont value them much

it won't make a difference if you have it or not whereas AS English will be considered

I'm mostly generalizing here but yeah

[polar copper]

tbh i did core in ig-english that's why i guess my school told me they wont offer english

[trail owl]

Ahhh that makes more sense now

[thorn folio]

Since I'm currently doing as english and I'm giving the as paper in may, it is definitely much harder to do AS English than ig. Most of my classmates had extended in ig but it is still a struggle to get consistent marks. But the matter of fact is that Unis will accept an E in English for your as levels.

@polar copper

[stiff path]

@thorn folio same here... doing that as English paper this May

I’m trynna go Germany and they require as English 😪😪😪

[steel sable]

oh god

@trail owl I searched the freshman requirements for my uni of choice but this part is confusing

"A minimum 15-unit pattern of courses for admission as a first-time freshman. Each unit is equal to a year of study in a subject area. A grade of C or better is required for each course you use to meet any subject requirement."

cuz on a cambridge pdf, it says that the uni "accepts
Cambridge IGCSE and O Levels as meeting the
entry criteria for admission with 5 O Level passes."

[slow widget]

luki

what university?

[trail owl]

@steel sable I'm guessing it means 15-unit courses over the course of your highschool, meaning that over 4 years, 15 units, which means if you take 3-5 subjects, that should be enough to qualify?

[vivid glacier]

I am in 10th grade and our class have a dumb coordinator and she wants us to tell her before 11 grade in 7 months of we r choosing subjects for 11th grade and 12th grade and I don’t want to choose what should I tell her ( also I told her let me take everything then I can drop I don’t want she said I can’t us that correct or no)

She also wants us to sign on a paper 🤔

[trail owl]

@vivid glacier The subjects you're required to take and offered depends entirely on the school, so if your coordinator did tell you to pick now, I guess the best thing to do would be to check out all the subjects available, check the syllabi of each so you know what you're going to learn (in case that interests you or not)

The 'signing on paper' part must be some form of agreement i suppose? did you read the fine print?

[slow widget]

@vivid glacier take your time, don't sign on anything that binds you to give the subjects you choose

it's probably a ploy to take extra money from you

[trail owl]

^ yeah. take your time, think about it and do your research

[slow widget]

schools are vicious this way

[vivid glacier]

I mean is it correct to let us choose before we even do our o levels

[slow widget]

if possible, move to another school if they insist

[trail owl]

@vivid glacier No, it's not. that's kinda stupid tbh

because the level of study required for A levels and IGCSEs are vastly different

[slow widget]

@vivid glacier where do you live

[trail owl]

I'm guessing in India

[vivid glacier]

No XD

[trail owl]

Okay wow, because most indian schools do this kinda crap

never realized it was universal

[vivid glacier]

Actually

I live in the Middle East

[slow widget]

it isn't universal lol, no school in Pk pulls this short of shit

[vivid glacier]

But most schools don’t do this shit

[trail owl]

Okay that would make more sense.

[slow widget]

okay so @vivid glacier

don't sign anything

[vivid glacier]

Yh

[trail owl]

Read the fine print, read what it says

take your time

[slow widget]

threaten to leave the school if they want you to do something you don't want to

[trail owl]

It's important that you know whats on the paper specifically before you sign anything

Yeah, that too

[slow widget]

there's nothing they love more than money

[vivid glacier]

XD

[slow widget]

if they persist, leave the school

[vivid glacier]

It’s kinda hard to leave the school for other reasons

Not money

Or anything financially

[slow widget]

okay

just don't do anything you don't want to

[trail owl]

Bluffing is good

for negotiations at least

[slow widget]

they'll probably cave if you threaten to leave the school

they really do love the money

it's the only reason they're in it

[trail owl]

@slow widget you're being a little too cynical

[slow widget]

this has worked b4 with my brother tbh

I say this out of experience

[vivid glacier]

Also I can take math business and ict correct?

For 11th

[slow widget]

my brother threatened to leave the school

the admin fired a few members of the staff

just because of that

[vivid glacier]

A hahahaha our admin said if the students like the teacher that means the teacher is bad

[slow widget]

just read the paper they want you to sign very well

think it out

ask them if the decision is reversible

[vivid glacier]

Well I’m not 18 so I don’t think if I sign anything goes on

[slow widget]

yeah I don't think it's legally binding

but within the bylaws of the school

it holds

[vivid glacier]

Thx though

[slow widget]

halp me

hows this wrong

well someone gotta solve this

@trail owl

[steel sable]

oh

try posting it in #ig-chemistry there must be more people there to help u haha

but like idk how u got 1 to 1 to 1

I'd first recommend not simplifying

[slow widget]

its AS bro

XD

[steel sable]

oH

GOFD

SOZ DIDNT CHECK UR ROLE SIR

didnt mean the disrespect senior 😤

idk cuz we take the same thing in moles

I'm jus gonna post a response i found online in the #ig-chemistry @slow widget

can you see the #ig-chemistry channel? @slow widget

[trail owl]

@steel sable the question was already answered in #as-chemistry, don't worry

And @slow widget try posting questions in the right channels from now on please

[vivid glacier]

@trail owl so the coordinator is tell me to sign this but I talked to the British council and they told me to not sign it but the coordinator is saying I can’t do eleven grade if I don’t pick

[trail owl]

@vivid glacier The form only specifies that they need it to plan, so legally it isn't binding, so I suppose you can sign this, shouldn't be a problem. but in case you want to take any extra subjects, you'll need to ask them about doing it privately first

[vivid glacier]

Ok thanks

[eternal vine]

Heyyooo

i need some advice on the subjects im taking

[toxic python]

Hey @eternal vine! What advice do you need?

[eternal vine]

basically what my mothers is saying is to pick all commerce as in business, economics as well as acounts

and like right now im in grade 11 in the middle of my mocks and my boards are like in a month

in 12 im required to pick four subjects

so since i have to take commerce

and due to my interests in travel

but i have no idea what career to look forward too

or what course i need to take

[deft sun]

yo i need some advice.

IM PRETTY firm on taking law. But im unsure if i wAna do a founDATION in law or a levels

[humble sundial]

@deft sun DATION

[steel sable]

you had to message every single channel?@humble sundial

[humble sundial]

I need to spread across all of znot

[silk raft]

@deft sun foundation is a better easier option than A levels

[steel sable]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i seee

[neat karma]

what HL would you recommend dropping if you want to pursue something related to computer science , HL CS, HL Biz, HL Maths, HL Phys

[marsh dagger]

@neat karma Tough choice..

Mebbe Biz, if you ask me

But that's a genuinely useful subject

[crimson willow]

Phy @neat karma

The latter you may require in your field

[marsh dagger]

@crimson willowBut some college CS courses require Physics

[crimson willow]

Really?

I'm surprised

[marsh dagger]

@crimson willow That's what I've heard, at least

[slow widget]

iirc most CS courses require physics

at least in Pakistan

also all of the Ivies require Physics

[crimson willow]

Ooh okay

But other then electronics I see no practical application

At least Biz can be used in the field

[slow widget]

theoretical CS?

biz is useful in CS?

[crimson willow]

Like hell Newtonian mech is gonna debug your code😂

[slow widget]

i could see applications for it

[marsh dagger]

@slow widget Not in a purely theorect iCal sense

[slow widget]

like making graphics engines

webgl

and then doing projects

[crimson willow]

Yes ofc

[marsh dagger]

But biz is a side skill that can add value

[crimson willow]

That's eng tho

So there of course

Totally depends on what you want to do

[slow widget]

yeah, it's not complete unfathomable that the course would have you do some physics applications

and ofc then there's ID learning shiz

[crimson willow]

If you're interested in the tech industry then physics is somewhat useless

[slow widget]

yes

[crimson willow]

If not then it's a useful tool

[slow widget]

depends a lot on what you want to do

wouldn't need simple harmonic motion to close deals

[marsh dagger]

@slow widget This

[crimson willow]

Swinging

[slow widget]

god i hate swingers

lmfao

[trail owl]

@neat karma also ask your seniors about the faculty, some subjects may not have good faculty even if the subject is good and IB really needs good faculty for you to keep up (plus mostly your own personal effort)

[neat karma]

@trail owl Well from what I hear Physics & CS teachers are bad Math & Business have good teachers

[trail owl]

Take that into consideration too then, and it would also help to speak to the faculty themselves, just in case the responses you got from your seniors was just due to their difference of opinions or studying styles/behavior in class, it's important to get all sides if you can.

[polar copper]

@trail owl is it okay to take Computer science in AS/A lvls without studing that in IGs?

[trail owl]

Yeah you can but get ready for a tougher learning curve

[polar copper]

or is okay to just do IT

i have done ICT in ig

[trail owl]

@polar copper depends on your interest tbh

CS on a whole might be 'objectively' easier to study for and excel at, because the content is pretty straightforward and if you put in the effort, it'll show.

As far as I know IT, it's a little bit more unpredictable in the sense, the Audio/Video editing parts in AS and the Animation parts in A2, while really easy can be open to different interpretation depending on the examiner so people generally find it harder to score

[spare tulip]

MEDICINE people, help me out

Is education in the UAE worth it, or should I go abroad?

I've been told that it doesn't matter where I get my MBBS from as the content is the same

I have to just put my own effort because there's only so much one can teach

and people look where you do post grad from, not undergrad

so i shouldn't worry if i study from somewhere that isn't top 100

OR i could try to opt for charles uni and study their physics entrance exam syllabus for 4months

OR i could try to do AL physics in a year to widen my acceptance chance at different unis (by dropping A2 psychology)

UK unis are too expensive :(

[trail owl]

@spare tulip since MBBS is the same, look into the worth of the medical license in said country. that matters a lot more.

some medical licenses account for way more than others

[spare tulip]

I see

thank you

[slow widget]

should i go to UCI or LMU?

PS, UCI is in Irvine and LMU is in LA

[trail owl]

@slow widget what's your major?

[slow widget]

Art History and History

[trail owl]

LA might be a better place for Art stuff in general

I mean beyond your studies

[slow widget]

ok

[wheat iris]

Yeah LA is where most art startups are at

Music, theatre, writing

[trail owl]

Irvine is the place for STEM stuff and semiconductors and stuff

[wheat iris]

That jazz

[slow widget]

ok

Thannks guys

[wheat iris]

Np

[trail owl]

No problemo, look into the area, that plays a huge part too since you wont be inside college all the time

[wheat iris]

Yeah

[steel sable]

@spare tulip uk is not worth it, you will sink into debt before you know it. California is cheap compared to living in the uk

[marsh dagger]

@steel sable Explain?

I'm pretty sure it's not as bad as Cali

[steel sable]

ho ho ho

worse

to expensive to live

my sister struggles alot

[marsh dagger]

@steel sable What does she do?

[steel sable]

thats why so many people resort to benefits and some just game round using benefits

english tutor at a gcse centre

with brexit coming, i literally dk whats gonna happen

[marsh dagger]

@steel sable Dude, I'm living in London rn

It's not that bad

[steel sable]

its expensive doe

like im planning to go uni in cali and its cheaper

wait

isnt it

e x p e n s i v e

my grandparents have a shitty rundown house in east london, which isnt even an expensive part of london and the house costs 300k pounds

like its the tiniest thing ever its so claustrophobic

IDK i just think its too expensive and hard to live das my opinion but i still love the uk <3

[marsh dagger]

@steel sable Have to agree with that

❤ UK

[steel sable]

ytytytyyytyttyty

also, where abouts london do you live in

just curious, not a mandatory question

[toxic python]

@marsh dagger You're in London?! And you didn't tell me. I'm gonna hunt your ass down now

[steel sable]

OwO

[marsh dagger]

@steel sable Stanmore bro

[steel sable]

woah

is housing expensive there o.o

[marsh dagger]

Kinda @steel sable

[steel sable]

hold on a second...

[marsh dagger]

@toxic python I thought I told you...

[steel sable]

do u go university there?

[marsh dagger]

@steel sable Nopre

[steel sable]

okai

[toxic python]

Oh, I thought you meant central London, my bad

[marsh dagger]

😂

But aren't you in Cambridge @toxic python ?

[toxic python]

I am now, I was in London yesterday

[marsh dagger]

Ahh OK

[steel sable]

uwu

i was thinking maybe u go to the same uni as my siblings

would be rlly weird if i found out you guys know my siblings o.O

[marsh dagger]

@steel sable Which uni?

[steel sable]

"Yes ur brother is a little knobhead in our server"

not sure but it begins with S

i forgot ill ask doe

[marsh dagger]

@steel sable Stanmore College?

[steel sable]

idk it was more of a

University of ...

all i know it takes them a while to get there

and my brother lives in south and my sister lives in north east

so for them to take a while to get there it must be in the north west

where stanmore is

[marsh dagger]

@steel sable Hmm

I'm pretty sure I haven't met your siblings tho 😂

[steel sable]

hehehehhe

issa big city

[marsh dagger]

Yeah xD

[winged badge]

Guys, thoughts on university of Westminster?

Biomedical sciences

[polar copper]

hi
i am taking AS Accounting but i haven't done IG accounting will i be able to survive?

[toxic python]

@polar copper You'd be able to survive "anything" if you have enough willpower!

[polar copper]

i am only doing it because i heard that it is a lovely subject (got it from my business studies sir)

and my mother told me to do that subject too

[toxic python]

@polar copper Find the motivation from within

[polar copper]

i am motivated

[toxic python]

Do you enjoy it? Do you see yourself using it in the future?

[trail owl]

One thing I'll tell you is that it might seem daunting at first

but you'll get the hang of it

just remember to put in some extra effort

A lot of kids hate accounting because they approach it the wrong way

[polar copper]

@toxic python i haven't started yet and maybe i will be using it

i think it will be easy as i have done IG business

[toxic python]

@polar copper Don't consider it easy, but don't consider it impossible

[polar copper]

manageable?

[slow widget]

whoops wrong channel

[polar copper]

is managable a suitable word?

[shadow tree]

@trail owl agreed, I definitely wasn't the biggest fan of IG accounting

[trail owl]

@ everyone out there waiting on Ivy Day Results,
May the force be with you,

[slow widget]

May the force be with you too

I am taking Business, IT and Math I excel mostly and mainly in IT and Business yet math not so much as I am not considering it much on my future course which I am unable to decide or I don't know yet what to do I took IT cause I have a sense of passion for technology and it's innovation and with business it could Idk help me sell the tech or other method of technology, all in all I don't want to take a course or have job later after Uni that doesn't involve technology without business or not have IT at all in it. which is where by I am finding it hard to decide on a good course which I will be pleasured with so any ideas?

Awaiting the fat Ls

Just kidding

got my statement of entry

[crimson willow]

@slow widget congrats!!

[polar copper]

https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6866775/amp/Three-Es-level-Welcome-university-Fury-thousands-degree-places-despite-poor-grades.html?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-6866775%2FThree-Es-level-Welcome-university-Fury-thousands-degree-places-despite-poor-grades.html

[marsh dagger]

@polar copper I saw this

[frigid basin]

Hey so I’m about to finish igcse, but I’m having truble desiding on A-Level subjects, I’m homeschooling and I’d like to do AS and A2 in onle year. Is it posible to take Mathmatics (pure and statistics), CS, business studies and if posible physics in this amount of time?

And if I chose Mathmatics-pure and statistics, Computer Science and Business Studies(without physics) what are my options at university?

[slow widget]

physics is generally a requirement even for cs courses in top unis

sat physics

it is possible to do AS and AL for four subjects in one year, but it depends a lot on your work ethic

and you'll have to spend a lot of time studying

wouldn't recommend it because if you'll have ECs going on too, you'll experience burn out in a few months

(if you're aiming for top grades)

[frigid basin]

I am aiming for top grades, so if 4 is too much what can I remove?

[trail owl]

4 isn't too much if you dedicate enough time for it

[shadow tree]

IMO just do take two years and do it, unless you're sure you won't burn out

Cuz obviously you're planning for top grades then top unis, so you might not really have a break between the A levels and uni, and burning out in uni doesn't seem the best option when it's preventable

[trail owl]

You can never be sure about burning out

Aishwarya makes a very good point

[shadow tree]

Ofc you can't be sure, but I know that I can't do it personally.. even if you do manage the AL itself, there is uni to cross too

[trail owl]

The workload depends on the uni

and if you want to go to a Top Uni (unless it's in the UK) you'd need to prove that you've done the hardest and most rigorous courses your school had to offer

[shadow tree]

Why the exception for the UK?

[trail owl]

UK relies more on your Academic performance

let me rephrase that, Unis in the UK care more about your academic performance

So arguably, it is easier to get in

[slow widget]

@frigid basin if you're looking to get into US unis, you'll have to have nice ECs too

[trail owl]

^ Yeah. your ECs matter a lot if you're applying to US universities

[shadow tree]

Yea that won't work for me...

[slow widget]

so you'll be balancing ECs with 4 AL subjects in one year

don't

[trail owl]

11 of the Top 20 colleges are in the US.

[shadow tree]

I feel like they put a bit too much of focus on the ECs tho

[trail owl]

In a lot of ways that's a good thing

because your ECs are stuff you do because you WANT to do it

[slow widget]

ECs>>>academics

[shadow tree]

I'm only going into one 😂 I don't need 11

Yea but not to the extent that they focus on

[trail owl]

Yeah, you'd need to apply to a bunch if you want to get into one, it's like a shotgun

[shadow tree]

True

[trail owl]

Academics matter, but not as much as the amount of character development you'd need to succeed when you're older

[slow widget]

grades are crucial ofc, but a man without ECs is practically castrated (application and fun-wise)

[shadow tree]

Well you see personally, being in KSA, anything outside of school is non existent

Because of the community here

So obviously trying as much as I can to do from school

[slow widget]

yeah you guys have it bad in KSA

lol

[shadow tree]

But I mean that it wouldn't work out for me to go to the US

[trail owl]

If you are very academic, Writing the IMO, IPhO and IIO are also very good ECs, check #📰opps

[shadow tree]

But you need to go to the countries for those right?

I checked them out, can they be conducted in schools elsewhere?

[trail owl]

Nah, first you'd need to qualify the local sessions

[slow widget]

making music is a nice EC

there's loads of stuff you can do inside your room that'll count

[shadow tree]

I'll look into it then @trail owl

[trail owl]

Making Music that is recognized is a better EC. If you think you have what it takes, get your music onto spotify

Yeahh

[slow widget]

take Kuro for example

[trail owl]

A lot of my ECs are mainly stuff I do in my room

[slow widget]

the guy's an EC god

[shadow tree]

When I saw it, I got the impression that you'd need to be there

[trail owl]

I'm no EC god plis

[slow widget]

don't deflect compliments lol

[trail owl]

I can't help it

but also thank you for the compliment.

[slow widget]

i think I told you about the time I decided to quit deflecting compliments

[trail owl]

@shadow tree you code right? That's an EC on its own, but make something using your skills.

Get your Github more active

[shadow tree]

I'll have to take it up again.. been a while

Oh okay will do

Thanks @trail owl

[trail owl]

Also, tip on github. Don't ever delegate your account to anyone else.

I made that mistake once, and the guy poofed my entire account

[shadow tree]

Wdym?

[trail owl]

This was me once upon a time.

[shadow tree]

Like tell someone to write stuff for me you mean?

[trail owl]

Nah, some times when you start contract work on code, some of them ask you for for verification

Legal stuff. some ask you for your login credentials (I know that's a big red flag I should've seen coming)
So last year, I made a github account just for this. Got a lot of code on it for this one private repo project.
It was a recognition system for hospitals. but then the moment all of the code got done.
This company stole all the code, terminated everything and deleted all the accounts connected to the project.

I lost a lot of my 'github rep'

so whatever project you're working on, do your research

[shadow tree]

Omigosh

Thanks a lot!! @trail owl

[trail owl]

Don't mention it, you're very welcome! Look into some projects you can contribute towards, I'm sure it'll help you a ton with your ECs

[marsh dagger]

@trail owl If you handed over your GitHub creds, only you are to blame

[trail owl]

Yeah I know. but it's still a common practice in some companies.

so be wary of that.

[slow widget]

yes it's like your nudes leaking

[trail owl]

I made my dumb mistake xD so learn from it

[marsh dagger]

@slow widget Best example

[slow widget]

@marsh dagger
ex-senator: my daughters may not show it, but in their hearts they respect you a lot
me (because I used to reflexively deflect compliments: there's nothing to respect

awkward silence ensued

never deflected a compliment again

[marsh dagger]

@slow widget 😂😂

[shadow tree]

😂

[frigid basin]

I’m sure it’s a dumb question, but I didn’t know about IGCSE until last year😅 so what are ECs?

[shadow tree]

Extra curriculars

[distant nimbus]

should i apply to an a level college as well as a foundation in science

my offer is 5bs

but i'm aiming for much higher than that

[alpine whale]

Should I get an A* in all of my A/As subjects to be able to apply for a scholarship in Europe?

A/AS level subjects*

[slow widget]

depends on the scholarship

is it a private scholarship?

[alpine whale]

What do you mean by private scholarship?

[eternal seal]

it depends where you want to go if the university has high standard or not

[alpine whale]

Sorry for being dumb

@eternal seal you mean the rating of the university?

[eternal seal]

noooo it s okay and yeah the rating i mean

[slow widget]

@alpine whale are there any specific scholarships you're looking into

[alpine whale]

No

[slow widget]

have you shortlisted the unis you'll be applying to?

[alpine whale]

I mean ive been looking for unis where I can study the chemical engineering

You know what nvm

I will be looking on internet furthermore

[eternal seal]

you can try in belgium they re not that severe you know

[slow widget]

some unis in Turkey have a pretty low standard too

not exactly in Europe

[eternal seal]

the universities there have a rank range between 100 - 200 there is even one wit a rank of 65

omg don t say turkey it s a dream to go into a good one

[slow widget]

@alpine whale make a list of the unis you'll be applying to

then go to their websites and check the criteria

for scholarships and fin aid

if they don't have it on their website, email them

[alpine whale]

Ok

Thanks alot

[slow widget]

scholarships vary ofc

but it's generally not a bad idea to get top grades lol

[alpine whale]

Ik I will try my best

[distant nimbus]

would any medical schools accept me with 6A*s and 3As as my IGCSE grades

[steel sable]

ooooooo

[spare tulip]

@distant nimbus thats great but they look at your A level/equivalent grades, non academics and interview results as well

[slow widget]

has anyone here applied to germany ?

Using the FH aachen freshmen exam ?

[steel sable]

nien

[trail owl]

@slow widget Not aware of anyone here that has applied to Germany tbh.
Where all did you apply to?

[frigid basin]

If I have 3 subjects for A level (Math, computer science and bussness) would be enough to go to university? Spesificly engineering.

[swift grove]

depends on the university

[humble sundial]

Delhi University is the only good University. I am Khan Wazir and i love Delhi University

[surreal dawn]

Which is the best college for medicine in the USA

[slow widget]

I think you'd have to go through something called "pre-med" first in the US

Not too sure but that's what I heard from a couple of peeps

Search it up tho

[shadow tree]

Yea .. the USA only has medicine as a graduate program, so you can actually apply with any bachelor's degree, has to be at least slightly relevant tho. Most students do a pre-med bachelor's degree to prepare for the PG @surreal dawn

[trail owl]

Yeap. @slow widget and @shadow tree are correct.

Becoming a Doctor in the US, is more of a ten year journey. but getting a medical license in America will give you a lot of credibility in general. If you're a veterinary doctor with an american license, it's even better because you'll essentially be allowed to be approved anywhere in the world without much hassle.

[cold wigeon]

Medicine in the US is like an 8 year course
First 4 years you are doing your bachelors and it doesn't have much of medicine but then after 4 years you actually get to study medicine and do your MBBS and then after that You have your specializations and whatnot.
In Pakistan, medicine is done in 5 years and then house job and then specialisation
If u are still looking for a medical university in USA
John Hopkins is the best

People in Pakistan usually do their medicine here and go for their specialisation outside to the States
And they usually apply for the USMLE

[trail owl]

@cold wigeon 8 years for studying, but you'd need work experience and residency before you're allowed to practice medicine, so ~10 years.

Most South Asian countries have it around the 5-6 year mark.

and as for 'the best' university for medicine, that's highly subjective. ESPECIALLY if you think John Hopkins is the best.
If you want an objective list of 'the very best', It'd be more like:
Oxford, Harvard, Cambridge, Stanford, Princeton, Imperial College London, Yale, Columbia (not necessarily in that order)

John Hopkins would most likely be in the top 10, but not the very best.

[cold wigeon]

If u are talking about Yale and Harvard and whatnot these have medicine programs but they are not entirely dedicated to the medicine side but John Hopkins is known as a MEDICAL UNIVERSITY.

[slow widget]

that has literally no bearing on how good they are^

[trail owl]

Doesn't matter if it's known as a Medical University or not tbh, a lot of the appeal comes from the prestige and resources available in those Unis.

With Princeton, they have their own state of the art Hospital nearby iirc that helps students with practical experience, Harvard has it's own set of resources, most notably their biopolymers facility where a lot of cutting-edge research and molecular biology orders happen.

Those are just two examples I can give.

Each uni has their own merits. but usually they're famous and ranked consistently as a top university for a reason.

[slow widget]

that's like saying that LUMHS is better than Harvard Medical because LUMHS is a dedicated medical university @cold wigeon

[verbal ruin]

how much essential is Math for universities in USA for subject Computer Science/IT??

[trail owl]

@verbal ruin by default, very essential, but there may be exceptions and may vary depending on the uni.

[verbal ruin]

is anyone aware of universities in which math isn't an requirement

[burnt path]

I think math is compulsory

Unless the major you are planning to take doesn't require mathematics @verbal ruin

[slow widget]

IM planning to give SAT maths after AS

PROBABLY 3 months after it

Is it wise

can i give phsycsi and chemsitry too??

in that time period

[shadow tree]

Most places don't require subject tests at all tho right?

[slow widget]

varies

@shadow tree in the US all of the t20s do require subject tests

different subject tests for different courses tho

[shadow tree]

The top 20 you mean?

[slow widget]

yes

even the unis in Pakistan want SAT subject tests now lol

yep

for eg nust

not KSA tho

who'd like to study in KSA lokl

lol

i don't want to get beheaded

[slow widget]

oof

bruh

[burnt path]

If I'm already an American citizen but I study outside of the country. Do I need IELTS / TOEFL / etc...?
And I'm planning to go to prep school for college or smth, I have my IGCSE (am I considered an international student because I took the international test?), AS level coming up this May-June session, and SAT which I'm planning to take soon. Is this enough or do I need to consider something like AP or I need to take A2 too ( I have been told by many people AS alone is fine for most university in America).

[shadow tree]

Email any one prospective university and they should be able to clarify, even if you're not going there, they'll at least give you general info @burnt path

[burnt path]

Alright thanks

[distant nimbus]

@burnt path what did u get at igcse level? I want to see how a US applicant scores for reference

[burnt path]

Math: A, English: A, Science : C, ICT: C

[slow widget]

if you have the money,brains and grades Harvard @surreal dawn

[slow widget]

anyone going to study in Europe ? (except the UK)

[icy wraith]

Is physics with computing course any good?

[slow widget]

@slow widget maybe holland

[slow widget]

Is it possible to apply for Uni at USA T20 with my AS and A2 ? As I take Math, It and Business I mostly want to concentrate on business and IT so which course will best for me ?

the future Bill Gates

[slow widget]

Who me dang if it thats cool but I don't even think I am that good

lol

aim higher

if u intend to

I tried and I fell harder on the ground XD excuse me for my dark humor

lol

but I'll consider again I really do want to become something innovational and most time I did aim higher and I got to where I was now I was trash at business back in Igsce I used to get 18% on school exams till I switch to ICT, but now in A lvl I am one of the top students in Business and idk how to say it but teachers expect lots from me even the teachers who don't teach me

[wet dune]

@slow widget lol I was the top 3% of the world in IG business and am currently taking As Business studies. As far as courses are concerned, in terms of the business side I would reccomend some type of management and entrepreneurship. If entrepreneurship isn't possible then do what interests you

[thorn pendant]

@slow widget T20s require more than just good grades. You need to be a top tier athlete/founder of a company/ really invested into volunteering or other stuff which makes you stand out. All that alongside straight As.

[marsh dagger]

@slow widget @thorn pendant is right

In fact, they'll be willing to compromise a bit on raw grades if your extracurricuar stuff is good enuf

[thorn pendant]

i've heard that if you get low grades which is like in the 80% range, you can make up for it through a high sat and subject test score as well.

[marsh dagger]

@thorn pendant Yeah i've had mates who've done that

[slow widget]

Thats cool I guess I do a lot of stuff like founded a company (startup CSR related), developing an app for CIE school near my local area, did a charity/donation/support project with roots and shoots few months ago as I am still a current member of it, getting good at basketball and I do some poetry time to time or just writing would it be enough for them?

[marsh dagger]

@slow widget damn man that's great

Would work if you sell it properly in SOP

[wet dune]

@slow widget what's the company called?

[slow widget]

Zeneta well still kinda work in progress as I can't give it my full-time since a student and all soo yea

[marsh dagger]

@slow widget What exactly does it do?

And tell me a bit more about your app xD

[slow widget]

Let me start with the app, well I was in an IT class one day learning programming where by it got struck with an idea of making a school app for CIE registered school which aren't to many where am from so it would be easy introducing to each schools, the app would like students Ig and A level students know their schedule (exams or lessons), chat group where by teachers and students can find it easier to communicate and share resources and like everything CIE related provided in that very app so no need of searching on the web for a long time trying to find whats right and all I was gonna start with my school first and see how it goes cause I am still developing it

I was also in a business class XD when I was struck with an Idea where I was really intrigued with CSR and Marketing Promotion and Pricing where as I had thought that most cheap jewelry sold in ordinary stored like quality at times and not many stores with cheap jewelry but having great quality can be found everywhere so I thought to start a online store and had a joint venture with one of my friend's brother company that makes jewelry with great quality so I just sell them with a a policy or unique selling point of"items under $20" and targeting particularly the whole world. Its not a company for say but actually a retail yet I don't want stop there If I could find ways of helping I would develop it mostly that what Zeneta is about

As I want it to have different factors that helps in different ways as making high quality jewelry with the most affordable price reach people worldwide with the love of jewelry (cause I a done a mild research and many or half of many sell it at a way higher price which many may get discourage) so thats basically it I guess

[marsh dagger]

@slow widget Ahh I see

Interesting stuff!

[slow widget]

Thanks but doing this stuff now makes me wonder what i really want to be in the future still haven't even decided yet

[crimson willow]

The future is always uncertain and we must embrace it.

[slow widget]

Those are wise words

[shadow tree]

That's deep

[slow widget]

Wise AF

[slow widget]

@slow widget all that stuff you do 👏

[slow widget]

thanks

[unborn ether]

ur welcome ;3

[slow widget]

XD are you the same person?

[unborn ether]

Yes :))))))))

[wet dune]

@slow widget lol I've had many ideas aswell for actual products and services, however they are quite hard to pull off. For instance I've come up with ways to make paying taxes much easier and more efficient to new ways to synthesize and create reliable infrastructure to make hydrogen the next fuel source. Aswell as that I've been doing quite a bit of product research and development of a better flexible solar panels and or to make solar panels much more efficient.

And aswell as that been working on tryna get new ideas for catalytic converters for cars exhausts and factory's which are much cheaper and more reliable than the marketable counterparts

I got all thse ideas from just sitting in business and gaining the skills to look for improvements in my environment. I mean I'm also working on designs for those strollers that old people have so they can fit through doors with getting stuck. Just being a student tho kinda sucks cause you cant put your time and money into your ideas which sucks.

[marsh dagger]

@sharp vale here?

[sharp vale]

So I'm really interested in programming

Wanted to take CS

School doewnt provide it

So if I change my school next year

Can I do AL of CS in only 1 year

Or is that difficult?

Plus I know basics of programming too. Very basics only

@marsh dagger

[marsh dagger]

@sharp vale How much Python do you know, if any?

[dapper snow]

i know you're asking karthik and all but my friend took al cs online and got an a*

he says if you like it

[marsh dagger]

I salut him

[dapper snow]

you can do it

[marsh dagger]

@dapper snow but you really need an interest

Like, computers should turn you on

[sharp vale]

I have a lot of interest

Tbh

[marsh dagger]

@sharp vale Why is that a surprise to me?😂

[sharp vale]

But I dunno if I'm smart enough

[dapper snow]

@marsh dagger yeah thats basically him

@sharp vale its mostly mugging up

no practicals

[sharp vale]

I like practical

More

Than theory

[marsh dagger]

@sharp vale AS in 1 year is baby shit

You can do AS in 3 months

AL theory is the hard part - practicals are easy enough

[sharp vale]

In CS is theres more theory? Or practical?

[marsh dagger]

Both are fairly equal

[sharp vale]

I really dont like theory tho

Is it like IT theory

Or a lot different

[dapper snow]

listen

[marsh dagger]

Lot diff

[dapper snow]

do you like it as a hobby

[marsh dagger]

More low level stuff

[sharp vale]

Much more interesting?

[marsh dagger]

At least for me

[dapper snow]

or is it going to be a career in college

[sharp vale]

I want it as a career

Too

Plus it's a hobby too

[marsh dagger]

@dapper snow let's be honest mate - for a CS career you don't need a CS degree these days

[dapper snow]

most colleges dont require it

[sharp vale]

Yeah

[marsh dagger]

Just PCM

[sharp vale]

What's that?

[dapper snow]

@marsh dagger lmao ik that's why i am taking cen not cs

[marsh dagger]

Phy, Chem, Maths

cen?

[sharp vale]

Oh ok

[dapper snow]

computer engineering

i can learn coding online

[sharp vale]

What website

[dapper snow]

i am not dumb to go to college to learn it

[marsh dagger]

@dapper snow That's what I'm taking too

Plain CS is useless

[dapper snow]

so i am taking cen to learn the ins and outs of the hardware

[marsh dagger]

Yeah

[dapper snow]

plus they teach coding too

[sharp vale]

I know a website which I used to learn python and c++ in summer vacation

[marsh dagger]

Esp since all the bootcamp idiots these days

[dapper snow]

anything a cs graduate can do a cen graduate can do +more

[marsh dagger]

Obv

[sharp vale]

What website tho?

[dapper snow]

i didnt learn

i am saying i can

plenty of them tho

you can find them by a simple google search

[marsh dagger]

@sharp vale https://www.tutorialspoint.com/

Not very good looking, but does the fucking job

[dapper snow]

also

there is a book my cousin (cen ) recommended

if you're into games

and wanna learn coding

hold up i think i have it on my computer

[slow widget]

hmm

interesting

u dont rly need cs

[sharp vale]

Ok @dapper snow

[slow widget]

to learn prgramming

my bro is learning prgramming

[marsh dagger]

True @slow widget

[dapper snow]

found it but i dont have nitro so cant upload it

[sharp vale]

But I want to study it

[slow widget]

And all he gave maths math phsycsi and chem

[marsh dagger]

I'm entirely self-taught till now

[slow widget]

u can study it at univeristy

[dapper snow]

it's called "Learning C++ by Creating Games with UE4"

[slow widget]

i have prgrammed a game

iwas into

it

unti

l

my bro adopted my passion

XD

[sharp vale]

Thanks @dapper snow

[slow widget]

have to switch line now

[sharp vale]

Why?

You guys are self taught because u guys are really smart. Not everyone else is like that

[slow widget]

we have a passion for it

atleast i had

[marsh dagger]

@sharp vale Not cos we're really smart. It's cos we're driven AF

[slow widget]

sihg

EXACTLY

xd

[dapper snow]

boyo my friend was the dumbest shit ever he got c in math

[slow widget]

kk

thats not goof

ill get A d

[dapper snow]

yeah just an example

[slow widget]

I ELFT ALOT

[dapper snow]

i finished 30 mins early

[slow widget]

DAMN

[sharp vale]

Thanks @marsh dagger for your time. Really appreciate it man.

[dapper snow]

i still dont know how i saw ^5 as ^7 in the first q tho

i need to get my eyes checked

[slow widget]

LOL

pressure

makes you go marble

s

[dapper snow]

otherwise it was gonna be a full mark

[marsh dagger]

@sharp vale You're welcome

Never had you pegged as a coder bro tho xD

[sharp vale]

Really???

[dapper snow]

but i dont have any pressure@slow widget

[marsh dagger]

Yeah

[sharp vale]

Weird

[dapper snow]

i already got accepted so i literally have no shits to give

[sharp vale]

What did u think I was gonna choose a career as?

[slow widget]

gluck]

[sharp vale]

Fashion designing?

[slow widget]

NO

FASHION would be destroyed

[marsh dagger]

@dapper snow Where mate?

[slow widget]

if u did

[marsh dagger]

@slow widget 😂

[sharp vale]

U care about fashion? Piousman

@slow widget

[slow widget]

yes

i do

[dapper snow]

@marsh dagger uni of sharjah

[marsh dagger]

@dapper snow ooh nice

[sharp vale]

Oh and one more thingg

[slow widget]

no

nthing

[sharp vale]

Do IGs result matter.?

[slow widget]

no

[sharp vale]

Or A levels result

[dapper snow]

they matter more than a levels here

[slow widget]

depends where r u applying

[sharp vale]

When applying to unis

[marsh dagger]

A levels do to some extent

Not IGs

[dapper snow]

dk about where you are at

[marsh dagger]

As long as you don't fail you'll be fine

[slow widget]

uiim out

[sharp vale]

Ok

[marsh dagger]

@dapper snow I'm doing uni in the UK

[dapper snow]

if a levels are to some extent and igs no then what matters most

[sharp vale]

Entry tests?

[marsh dagger]

@dapper snow the ability to give them the stacks 😂

[sharp vale]

SATs

[marsh dagger]

@sharp vale only in US

[sharp vale]

Personality

[dapper snow]

@marsh dagger SO ITS NOT ONLY DUBAI 😂

[marsh dagger]

@dapper snow The whole fucking thing is a scam these days 😂

[sharp vale]

Dyou pay a lot in the uni @marsh dagger

I mean are ur parents giving a lot

[marsh dagger]

@sharp vale 22000 GBP tutiton

Figure how much that is in your own currency

[sharp vale]

GBP?

[marsh dagger]

British Pound

[sharp vale]

Ok

Annually?

[marsh dagger]

Yes

[sharp vale]

Ok thanks bro

[dapper snow]

oof that's even more than what i

i mean dad

will pay

[marsh dagger]

😂

@dapper snow What languages do you know mate?

Programming

[dapper snow]

0

i am interested

rlly interested

but up until summer 2018 i didnt have a pc that can run visual studip

or any software rlly

[marsh dagger]

Oof

[dapper snow]

and i have been caught up in gaming

new gaming pc n shit

probably gonna read that book my cuz recommended this summer

[marsh dagger]

Hmm

[dapper snow]

i know its not gonna be a major thing

but its gonna give me the basics that i can lean on the first year of uni

after all

i am paying the uni to teach me the major stuff

[marsh dagger]

Haha true

But TBH you're not gonna get anywhere just by relying on the uni

[dapper snow]

i know

that's why i chose a relatively cheap uni

and not the 100k ae one that most people recommend

too many people telling me their bachelors didnt matter all that much

i will let it work itself out

[unborn ether]

Wait wait wait just a mini q here

For most cases

To be accepted into a uni

In Canada

What's the minimum grade they'd accept

Any idea?

Like for majority

[dapper snow]

minimum grade is probably D like it is in mostly everywhere else in the world

but good luck trying to get in with just the minimum

it's gonna be up to the competition

[unborn ether]

Nah I was just asking so that I would not stress over it like I was doing until I asked

I honestly suck at studying so

But thank you

[dapper snow]

omg

finally someone who says suck at studying too

i thought i was the only one

goddamit i am not dumb i just cant do hard work

[unborn ether]

I can't neither :)

[frank ginkgo]

Don't worry and resit B)

if you're not feeling good for this exam season

there is always another.

unless u wanna do med

then ggwp

[unborn ether]

I actually do have to get in to med field

Soooooooooooooooooo

Is D still an acceptable grade? ;-;

[sharp vale]

I didnt know sis @unborn ether

U wanted to be in med

Oh my Goddddd

[unborn ether]

._.

[sharp vale]

-_-

:)))))

[unborn ether]

wut

I

ACtually

Don't wanna

[sharp vale]

U want to be a doctor

[unborn ether]

But my mother

YEs for her

I will become one

I don't wanna be a doctor sis ;-;

it's a pain prolly

But my mother always wished for her children to become a doctor so

[sharp vale]

I don't like doctors tbh

My mom a doctor too

And many other family members

[unborn ether]

My fam is a doctor fam

[sharp vale]

I'm fed up of doctors

[unborn ether]

:))))))))

ME TOO

[sharp vale]

YEHHH

[unborn ether]

#561254363960573961

[frank ginkgo]

gl with ur bmat

[wet dune]

Real Canadian hours?

@unborn ether

I'm keen to transfer to Canada sometime

[unborn ether]

;-;

I wanna go to Canada

[wet dune]

Edmonton anyway

[unborn ether]

For med school

[wet dune]

Oh lol what country you from?

[unborn ether]

KSA

[wet dune]

Ksa?

[unborn ether]

Yep

Kingdom of Saudi Arabia 😂

[wet dune]

RippA

[unborn ether]

😂

[slow widget]

Hey I came here for career advice

[sour dew]

Same here

Guys I'm not sure whether I should go for a physics major or an engineering major... From what I've seen there are courses like aeronautics or just aerospace engineering which are interesting to me and then there's pure physics but I'd rather be more interested in ASTROphysics which is less available as a major from what I've seen.
I'm not sure what I'd like to do more between astrophysics and aerospace engineering and I don't know whether a double major would be appropriate. I also don't get most of the basics of how undergrad education works.

[marsh dagger]

@shadow tree @crimson willow help the mans out will ya?

[slow widget]

For me I have a pretty straightforward goal but I don't know the specifics in them.. I'm really interested in Model UN, public speaking and debate for I have done it for a considerable amount of time, and I think I'm pretty good at it compared to my peers, so I want to major in politics or political science in the states(Either Georgetown, Columbia, Pennsylvania or NYU). I really want to aim for high spots of the United Nations like the minister of foreign affairs, but I don't know what to do before them.

[crimson willow]

@sour dew well what are you more interested in? The practical aspect or physics or the theoretical aspect of it?

@slow widget I'd say you start out with MUNs. Then get on to some level of the public sector in your country and then move to your end goal.

[sour dew]

thats the problem, ive been asked that question so many times but i cant answer it cause i like both of them.

ill have to research a bit more i guess

[shadow tree]

To answer the other part of your question, @sour dew astrophysics is less available as a major at the undergrad level, a BSc physics is much more commonly available. You can go on to specialise during your master's degree

[sour dew]

Okay, thanks

[crimson willow]

@sour dew I share your interests too. However, I feel that B.S or B.Sc in Physics offers a bit more of a foundation than Astro.

[sour dew]

Yes that's true

The main problem I have is figuring out whether I wanna make rovers or rockets and stuff and send them out to space or just do the math and science with the research they return to understand why everything is as it is

Honestly I wanna do both but...

[crimson willow]

Right

There's always time IMO

Dw about it

Just keep your options open

[sour dew]

Oof

[slow widget]

IMMA BE A SOUNDCLOUD RAPPER

[stone root]

send link

[unborn ether]

me too

[slow widget]

@slow widget do a lot of quality reading in economics

political science is some interesting stuff

[crimson willow]

Yups

[dapper snow]

You brainwashed not to know you grew up wanting to be a pimp
You wanted to be a player (right) 
You know, you grew up wanting to be these different things 
That are role models to you in your neighborhood
Until you figure out that hold on
I'm finna be the first role model that ain't that

[shadow tree]

@dapper snow please don't spam in channels other than spam

[dapper snow]

issa not spam

issa joke read it

[shadow tree]

It's irrelevant to the topic, so please refrain from doing so @dapper snow

[dapper snow]

ok grandpa

[crimson willow]

@dapper snow that's a warning

[sharp vale]

How hard is it to get into MIT?

[sour dew]

I have the same question

[dapper snow]

harvard level hard

[unborn ether]

Damn

[dapper snow]

honestly if you want these top level unis go for a postgrad

its not as hard basically all you need is the money

and its much more worth it

[unborn ether]

So money makes the difference?

[dapper snow]

education is a business

its all about the money now

[unborn ether]

Hmm

But honestly

For Canada

To get into a med school

[dapper snow]

med school is another thing

medicine you're handling human lives

even if you have the money

they cant just allow anyone

[unborn ether]

I was gonna

Ask sth else

What i wanted to know is

Just on an average

WHat's the minimum grade uni would accept?

[dapper snow]

you can find minimum grades on their websites and they will be stuff like c or maybe b if its a top uni

but its never that

no one with the minimum grade can get in

because competition

its all about how the others applying are

[unborn ether]

Hmmm

[toxic python]

@dapper snow - What kind of experience do you have with universities? Just wondering coz you have such a negative outlook of them.

@sharp vale - To get into MIT, it’s a lot to do with playing your cards right, and to a large extent, luck. And to paraphrase them, if you’re MIT material and you don’t get in, shouldn’t make much of difference in terms of where you’ll end up. You’ll find a way to be amazing.

[dapper snow]

i have seen guys get into the top universities of all time while getting c's in a levels

and seen straight a* seniors joining a subpar one cuz they couldnt pay up

furthermore i have seen people graduate from these top unis and get no where in life

and people who graduate from public unis to work in some places they could have never dreamed of

its all about you

not the uni

[sour dew]

You may have seen these people but what is the probability/percentage of these people

That you have seen

Out of all uni students ever

[dapper snow]

most of the people i know are like that boss

each one has a special case

one case is my friend and his sister

she went abroad in some high name uni in uk

she still lives with her parents at 26

[sour dew]

Hmm

[dapper snow]

he went to an average uni here (he couldn't be bothered to work hard)

[sour dew]

I hope you're not telling us all this to reduce competition for when you try out better unis

Jk

[dapper snow]

he also still lives with his parents but he has a salary well above the average threshold for his age (24)

my cousin is the one who went to the public uni

in egypt of all places

he is in usa now working with friggin microsoft

it really do be like that

its about the person not his paper

[sour dew]

Hmm true

But you can't deny that uni does help

[dapper snow]

i am not saying dont go to uni

i would have done that

[sour dew]

Oh u are saying

No difference between good and bad uni

Or expensive and cheap uni

[dapper snow]

i am saying that getting into the higher stuff that costs hundred of thousands is a waste of money

ofc that doesnt mean get into a community college instead

[sour dew]

Hmm

[dapper snow]

it means get into one

that has a good rep

for teaching

and ignore its rank

[sour dew]

Hmm

[dapper snow]

i am also saying that because i see tons of people work hard and forget to live their life

[sour dew]

Hmm

[dapper snow]

man what are you gonna do with the uni if you dont live a happy social life

[sour dew]

Hmm

[dapper snow]

or at least a hobby

you're copy pasting hmm now arent you

[sour dew]

No

I'm typing it

Again and again

[dapper snow]

lmfao ok

[sour dew]

Thank you for sharing your perspective on the matter

[toxic python]

@dapper snow - American universities? Like MIT and CalTech?

Sure there’s always success and failure stories from either end. Don’t you think that in most cases, it helps tip the scales a bit more into your favour?

[dapper snow]

in my opinion not. it maybe different in other fields, but in computer engineering, its about you and the name you make for yourself