#gendered main character

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tardy dragon
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i find it really uncomfortable, as a girl playing this game, when people in the game keep on referring to the protagonist by masculine pronouns, maybe this is a localization error idk, but it just feels really jarring having the character that has my name, who was literally colored by my personality, be constantly referred to as "guy", "dude" etc.
makes it super hard to connect to the character.

stuck lark
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In english every character is referred to as "they" so it's likely a translation issue

rich isle
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Playing in french, i was always refered as "elle"

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which is she

stuck lark
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I also played in French, I know All-Seeing tried her best not to gender the player but she had to make a choice in some cases

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I don't know about the other languages though

tardy dragon
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in english i can recall quite a few times the mc was referred to as guy or dude, particularly in the ||mushroom beurau||

radiant orchid
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like

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the place with hundreds of mushrooms

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if that is the place that you are referring to,,,

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i would like you to know that it isnt the developers fault

tardy dragon
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Well things said by wizard mushroom and announcer mushroom definitely are part of what the devs wrote I'm pretty sure

radiant orchid
tardy dragon
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The one that you talk to before turning into a cube, and the one commentating the trials you undergo while cubed

radiant orchid
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oh ic

tardy dragon
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As in, the plot parts of that area

radiant orchid
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alr mb, i misunderstood

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however, if you're also somewhat referring to the other mushrooms in that area, those were made by the community

tardy dragon
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Not in the slightest

radiant orchid
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ah alr

tardy dragon
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I know those are community submitted

radiant orchid
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alr

tardy dragon
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Pretty sure Irvine calls you by masculine pronouns at various points as well

radiant orchid
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sounds like something irvine would do /j

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that was not the backspace button

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oops

tardy dragon
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Lol

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Hell even in the demo pretty sure bobo refers to you by masculine pronouns

radiant orchid
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dont you disrespect bobo they're my pal

tardy dragon
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I would never disrespect bobo, I'm just listing off examples as I think of them

radiant orchid
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ah alr

onyx plinth
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I'm fine with guy/dude since it's gender-neutral in certain parts of the US, but I am sad there aren't more long-haired hairstyles or a ponytail option so I can make them look more feminine. (But I know that would be a time-consuming task for a lot of modeling.)

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But yeah for sure it's understandable because "hey, guys" is used in groups for a gender-neutral context with a group of guys and girls, and it can be seen as gendered when using it towards individuals.

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There's not a lot of replacements and it didn't bother me since the context made sense to me. The only other term I could see is maybe "being," which makes it more inanimate and less humanly. "Pal" was already used a bit and maybe they didn't want to overuse that.

frail pendant
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I made a post about this on steam discussion, but one can imagine how well that went. https://steamcommunity.com/app/1984020/discussions/0/591764935569059845/?tscn=1741243673

Spoilers if you check the examples in the imgur link as I show different chat boxes from different areas: ||https://imgur.com/a/QORgIjJ||

From what I can tell this mainly happens a lot in the first hour or so of the game. Later I can see other characters clearly saying they/them when referring to your character as they wouldnt know your name. There are some instances later in the game, but its very infrequent.

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tardy dragon
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Wow I actually forgot about all the times that happens in ||veggie land||

radiant orchid
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i agree with soleil, phrases like "dude" and "lil guy" are gender neutral

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hi soleil

onyx plinth
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For sure in the context of the game, but irl if you say "that guy over there" it's generally understood that you're probably referring to a man and not a woman.

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So I can understand why it bothers some people

radiant orchid
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also, correct me if i'm wrong, but im pretty sure there's literally no gender in everhood

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so then every word referring to you or literally anyone would be gender neutral

onyx plinth
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Some gender slipped through the cracks in the first game, but all of the instances pointed out by fans were fixed and patched out

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Wasn't sure for Everhood 2, but it was confirmed in Sunpy's Steam thread!

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Though I'm still kind of unsure on real-life figures if it applies to them, it feels sort of irreverent to maybe "change" it for them, but I'm not sure since I haven't seen them referred by any pronouns in-game yet

onyx plinth
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The gender-neutral terms (some which are already used) that personally make sense to me are friend/pal/guy (but maybe "guy" could be used less frequently)/folks (if there's a group). It's hard to have a lot of terms, since the gender-neutral ones like being/person/thing technically work but are more inanimate and can be dehumanizing in certain contexts.

I think in this scene there's a lost opportunity to use "small fry" to fit with the shark and fish theme while also being punny and less gendered.