I must say that the Territory Capture mechanics are awesome so far.
Just fix the lag!! Epic battles are happening on our server.
@south rose I agree. It’s been good on ours so far
#🏆-event-chat
shut delta
merry fulcrum
There's only been like one or two actual competition battles
robust vapor
I actually haven't disliked territories so far, and I'm not a fan of PvP. Probably because there's more to it than just big ship smash smaller ships 🤔
I am concerned that there isn't going to be enough territories though. I get having Alliances fight over the best systems, and the whale Alliances will likely dominate those sure, but I'm guessing a bunch of Alliances will miss out on T1 territories even?
Would also be good if lower territories had more station housing and wasn't dark to the specific alliance 🤣
south rose
I like it being dark even to us. makes mining easier and keeps it surprising. I think a lot of too alliances will abandon 1* systems and only keep 1 max.
the problem I'm seeing is large alliances teaming up together making it unfair to smaller groups. so yes many alliances won't have a zone and in takeovers for 1* u will see many alliances vying to take those.
shrewd totem
There is 54 zones
robust vapor
Being dark to your alliance doesn't help anything 😋 keep it dark to others, works for me, just a pita when I can't see my own systems..
shrewd totem
Enough for 11 alliance
robust vapor
And they were saying that you need the full chain to get the next zone, so you can't abandon the T1's until you get to your end point basically; I understand that right?
And there's a couple more than 11 alliances.. while I know bigger Alliances get better rewards, that's the game, I think a free extra T1's at least might be nice for the smaller alliances to fight over?
robust vapor
Can you? I saw some comments from one of the Devs before that suggested you need the full chain, but didn't see the follow-up 🤔
shrewd totem
T1 is only needed at the beginning,after that keeping isnt must but recommend
robust vapor
Yeah, last see advice was that you cannot expand a broken link 🤔 I think there was confirmation coming, but doesn't look to have arrived.
shrewd totem
You can repair the link but you cant expand to other parts
robust vapor
Yeah, so doesn't that mean that I can't take a T3 territory from a T2 unless I also control the T1 territory, because that would be a broken link?
shrewd totem
No
What they mean with broke link is
You have A-B-C zones and you lose B the one in the middle then you have a broken link
If you lose A or C,you can play fine
robust vapor
So CDE is ok? 🤔
shrewd totem
Should be
robust vapor
Oh, well that's alright then. I expect maybe A and B territories will get dropped after a while too, making more room for smaller alliances 💪
abstract gate
Yeah for the sub-top alliances like ourselves I don’t see the point of holding 4 or 5 1* territories. So it will even out
bold girder
Server 135 had its first "contested" territory capture yesterday. 7 alliances, 1st and 2nd going head to head.
Despite a minor bit of lag. I even managed to pick @warped stag off. (Just waiting for the YouTube video now).
We don't get to say this often, well done Scopley, it was:
warped stag
It was interesting to see how it played out. Unfortunately I wasn’t filming 😬 /my bad
hybrid stone
Do you plan to close the territory systems at the takeover time to alliances who are not joining the takeover?
cosmic sage
We tried to help an another alliance secure a zone but unfortunately a much stronger alliance decided it wanted the zone to expand. I'm pretty sure there was 50+ ships in a system at one point. Battles took 10-30 seconds and I had no idea who I was actualy going to end up fighting. We weren't able to help the other alliance secure the zone but it was still lots of fun. Today the t3 zone we want will become avaliable. We have two alliances we expect to help but expect to fend off two or three alliances on the other side. It should be crazy fun.
Also I loved the disco event today. And how every warp counted. I just jumped between systems in origin space and was done in a few minutes. 🤣
dense ocean
is it true, that after some days later also other 18+ players will be able to refine ISO ??
jolly gull
We were double teamed on a take over by 2 alliances bigger than us,had no chance. To compound the problem,after getting my 4 ships evicted,not being able to see in meant could only enter at same point every time where they waited.After being blown up a few times before could see in sys managed to slip one by and what I saw was an Enterprise target me and shoot me from amazing distance.At the point of first hit you could fit 6 iso nodes between us. ORIGIN SPACE parameters need looking at ..
granite zenith
you have 2 possible services that you could activate... and they would stack.... the lit ones are available services THIS takeover.
at the end of the next takeover... those two services, if activates expire...
the UNLIT services are the UPCOMING services that are available after the next takeover...
the exclamation point button on that screen is the explanation key
long arrow
But he advanced and normal mining services give the same?
granite zenith
then you can get the same twice
base * (1+(sum of bonuses))
For this arc... the services will remain the same with each takover
After this arc... the services will rotate with each takeover
clear iris
What happens if you own three connected zones and lose the middle one to another alliance? Do you lose all three?
granite zenith
no... but you will be unable to expand or activate new services until you either take back the middle territory, or abandon one of the end ones
wispy lake
Can anyone confirm whether takeover rss need to be paid by the alliance who holds a zone when the 7 day timer expires and a new takeover begins?
granite zenith
you do not have to pay the takeover if you own the territory
owner gets free entry to defend
wispy lake
Ok thanks. Does the owner also keep ownership of the system throughout the new takeover period for the purposes of being able to put shields up on their bases located in the owned takeover zone?
granite zenith
the owner owns it until it is captured by someone else or is abandoned
wispy lake
Great, thanks for the information.
granite zenith
👍
stray tide
Any fix anytime soon to basic pvp, the new capture areas just show(again) that scopely havent been able to fixed it for 2 years
granite zenith
the new capture areas have no pvp banding whatsoever intentionally
anyone is MEANT to be able to hit anyone
celest cloud
What happens if you own three connected zones and lose the middle one to another alliance? Do you lose all three?
@clear iris And if you lose the 1* (even if not the middle system) the same will occur... unless you have another 1* in your chain?
shrewd totem
what he said*
granite zenith
if you can chain t2 and t3 by a continuous warp path... you are fine
stray tide
I know pvp works as intended, what i am saying is, pvp is a mess. I could work if scopely did spend some time on it, they did try several times everytime they showed they dont know how to fixed it, even simple events they fk up
celest cloud
Hm, interesting, I can see the logic. So if any joining system is lost (even if it means there is a contiguous block of, say, 3 and one island) the same will occur to all unless the island is abandoned or lost?
oak iris
if they limit only involved alince to sistem on time of take over wold be beter
granite zenith
by not limiting... it allows you to make alliances to assist you
trim hemlock
It also means the whales can influence everything
warm bobcat
Or you can have some decent allies with a max of levels
granite zenith
It also means the whales can influence everything
@trim hemlock it also means thats 30 smaller alliances can max out the system that whales are going for and lock em out of a system
north pike
Does anyone know how many parts there are in the discovery arc - normally the arcs are 3 parts but thought I saw we are in part 3 of 4?
warm bobcat
Yeah, this one is 4 parts
granite zenith
you just answered your own question
north pike
@warm bobcat thx - I thought I had seen that but couldn't find it. Hope we get a proper event store in part 4.
warm bobcat
I'm hoping for one as well, couple of officers I am close to that should be there, and the permanent need for crystal
north pike
Yes - and some ship bps.
granite zenith
thorn sapphire
Question 2 new systems (Beta Assembly and new Dozaria have missions how do I unlock them
granite zenith
not in the game yet
sooooooon
thorn sapphire
👍
spring comet
@granite zenith u seem to have a lot of knowledge any ideas or assumptions on research parts for territorys
granite zenith
meaning the new particles... they will be available via events
spring comet
aye been told that, yet the events have yet to feature and secondly kinda figured they would be part of rewards for territory captures aswell
granite zenith
its only the first few days... let the arc unfold
pure mortar
So we have an event that wants research done. Ftp can't get the particles yet and ptp got the packs the first day and are stuck. Kinda silly to have an event noone can really do much of
granite zenith
doing level 1 and level 2 of each of the researches that are available with out those particles completes the event... not sure how its not possible
pure mortar
I maxed out what I could the first day via the packs. Meaning most of the first part of the tree is done and the second part which requires the particles has a good start on it. In order to progress any further , I would need 100s of thousand iso as it gets expensive and the second and third part of the tree require particles to do more. You just aren't refining enough fast enough to keep up with the cost. Which is fine it's a grind like most else but if you have an event they points are scored from researches at least put a pack out allowing such research to be completed by those who maxed all they could the first day.
pale cobalt
I'm mostly F2P I have spent money on the game but haven't spent any for this arc and I finished the research event yesterday so it is possible for F2P to do it
pure mortar
I finished the research event the first day, this is the second research event for the same thing
abstract gate
There seems to be some reports that obtaining particles will come from mining iso events. Really hope its not true
granite zenith
i know its via events by what the devs have stated... what events i do not know
warm bobcat
Think the in game message when you tap on them in the tree says mining events in specific areas of origin sector
pure mortar
Event ends Monday so if the particles are unavailable....
abstract gate
Yeah saw same thing as you did, but had few people telling me its mine and refine iso...why does everything have to be connected to mining😭😭
granite zenith
@pure mortar there are packs
pure mortar
One time buys man
granite zenith
🤷♂️
pure mortar
That helped out the first event the first day lol, this is a second event for it. If you gonna have events provide packs. Simple 1 plus 1. Bad business not selling more. Don't they want money
granite zenith
i guess they also dont want it to be a $$ only game.. you can buy some... and you gotta grind some
same reason you cant buy enough battlepass points to avoid events... levels the playing field some
pure mortar
I get that arguement but the ones who are on the "whale" side of things are already way above the average player, what's it matter if they are even more. Same result in the end, more money made for scopley, doesn't hurt anyone anymore or any less then what's already happening.
brittle thorn
Please let me know. I don't have enough Isogen to get the service, can I just occupy it?
warm bobcat
Yes, you can occupy territories and then you get the option to use the bonus or not
unique quiver
So what exactly are all these used for ?
waxen sedge
You need cores to begin 2* and 3* territory captures, the other items are needed to activate some of the in-territory services.
unique quiver
Ahh makes sense
waxen sedge
Cores needed in a 3* capture in first picture, other stuff needed to activate a service in the 2nd
brittle thorn
@warm bobcat
It was very helpful! Thank you!
unique quiver
Yah found the screen that shows it. Thank you was looking under items & refinery & didn’t see it. TY 🖖
Ps Hari you have some work to do 😂🤣
tiny patio
Anyone know if there is a cooldown period on "abandoning a territory' and claiming a new one? I just want to make sure when we drop one of the 1* we don't have an issue taking a new 5th one.
@twilit imp or @rough mulch Not sure if anyone has abandoned one yet to know?
granite zenith
your zone opens up immediately
patent pulsar
A second group bought in to the Takeover after the timer started. They are not showing on the top right corner in regular view. Does that mean they aren't eligible for being late? Every other Takeover showed all the groups listed.
granite zenith
there is usually a few min lag behind actually joining... and points being shown... it may just be delayed
patent pulsar
I actually posed this exact question yesterday and got no reply. Three minutes into the capture a second alliance joined, they never showed at the top right for the entire rest of the capture
I'm not worried about showing, i'm worried about being eligible. If we join late can we still fight to earn it, or are we automatically DQed?
granite zenith
supposedly you can join at any time
@cunning knot stated that they snagged one near the end
patent pulsar
Thank you!
warm bobcat
I thought the top right just showed the leading alliance?
patent pulsar
The first two I watched showed the 2 alliances competing
Maybe the was the glitch?
"unintended feature" sorry
warm bobcat
I was helping an alliance yesterday and don't think I saw the other alliance show up in the top right corner and I only ever saw the leading alliance, not that I was paying that much attention to it
scenic cloud
Now that the original shock has subsided,. Some 50-60% of the server is in the new territory. Leaving plenty of nodes....
I would like to add. OPC is OPC. And i thank you for your assistance in gathering 3iso. Ty for a wonderful Game. 😉
Keep mining
cunning knot
@granite zenith aye dont give my strat away!
tall fiber
Active takeover in server 24... But it won't let us join on going on "NOW". Please advise?;?
abstract gate
@twilit imp server 26 has territory capture started but just getting spinning wheel so no one can join.
tall fiber
<@&509691205798592532>
cerulean sedge
We are currently trying to capture Nyrheimur and cannot activate either.
tall fiber
All of us? Same issue
cunning knot
just remember u can only capture t1 at first then t2 then t3 and each one has to have a connecting warp path
cerulean sedge
Yes, we own the adjacent T2,.
tall fiber
@twilit imp same issue server 24. nyrheomur. You can click the invisible button to see my screenshot
We are connected
cunning knot
but u dont have a t2
if u dont have a t2 system u cant cap a t3
wait
u do have one hmm
cerulean sedge
hybrid sigil
same on server 21
normal lagoon
this game is broken again? wait what?
cerulean sedge
We are seeing this spinning screen and cannot activate.
cunning knot
@pseudo rover little insight here bud
hybrid sigil
cunning knot
dumb question, did u try putting a ship in the system the trying to start it? @cerulean sedge
tall fiber
Yeah... Tried lots of thinga
cerulean sedge
Yes, I have three ships, one on a capture node in each system.
tall fiber
Spinning wheel... Invisible buttons still work, but shows not all criteria met
cerulean sedge
cunning knot
thats odd u cant get it u have a t1 t2 all the rss and there connecting which is odd
@cerulean sedge john just made a announcement about it
hybrid sigil
the ongoing takeover requirements not checked
dry phoenix
This is ridiculous. Way to go Scopely. Worst coders ever.
cunning knot
games def messing up thats what im getting from the same system
pure acorn
We all know there are hiccups in all new content.. Been that way for 2 to 3 years now... Should be repaired fully in 4 patches
tall fiber
Agreed... We have the same
We build up and people spent money so we could get this syatem
cunning knot
@knotty birch language man
knotty birch
Yeah I know but this is just the last straw
cosmic urchin
We just burnt a boatload of rss fighting for no reason, scopes.
I’ve never been this mad at a video game
knotty birch
I’ve said nothing about restarting the game for EVERY event reward for 4 days now.
cunning knot
meh 💩 happens, i just tend to not pay attention anymore play the game for as is and try to not worry about it till its fixed
pure acorn
Whats the rush... They'll get it fixed.. Game is a forever game.. No way to hurry to the end!
cunning knot
yea thats def annoying, there aware of it i brought that up to one of the devs directly @knotty birch
trim tiger
I've been hunting assimilated ferengi traders in torra sedra and wonder why the points aren't counting towards the threat reduction event?
tall fiber
Invisible button will get you to next screen, but it's still stuck there
pure acorn
Scopely should just suspend all entries for new territories until resolved.. Everyone has same fair chance again
plush rivet
@trim tiger its the ones you get the special core from
ashen wharf
yeah suspend the thousands of dollars people spent for these territories...
rancid yoke
No one can contest the system on my server plans and resources and time is what is being wasted at the moment
ashen wharf
lol
trim tiger
@plush rivet I thought it might be something like that but would've been nice if that's was more clear as that was a wasted token
heady sleet
We've had 3 x 3* systems captured on 41 then all of the sudden it stops working
plush rivet
@trim tiger your not the only one that made that mistake 😄
cosmic urchin
I’ve defended this game quite a bit, but I’ve never been this mad at a video game before.
ripe hatch
Same here
abstract gate
This system will now be available to grab in 7 days. Sorry for your planning here is 7 parsteel and 10 dilithum as gift.
ashen wharf
lol
pseudo socket
Just another steaming turd
knotty birch
There will be trouble @abstract gate
abstract gate
Lol yeah. We planned long game and as usual just need to bend over and take scopley nice and deep.
nova schooner
@abstract gate are you crazy, it would 7 dilly and 10 par..... always more par than dil
open jackal
Same issue on server 26.. another scopely fail!
Yeah the x on the requirements for an ongoing takeover is the hold back, we tried everything...we can get by the spinning circle.
open jackal
Thye can re run event but for the team that captures it after they re-run they need to give us a free enhancement for that zone
cosmic urchin
We planned all day and fought hard for 30min before calling it off. I’m sure we burnt a billion trit.
nova schooner
@rancid yoke can i get some of that dillly?
rancid yoke
I would send you some but unfortunately shared resources is still in the development stage 😂
open jackal
@twilit imp when will this be fixed and what about compensation
rancid yoke
Frustrating
abstract gate
@twilit imp all the alliance team members that made sure to be on break at work, open time at home, and all other plans to have the time for this game just got screwed. This better be a big compensation. This really messed with alot of active players that spend in the game.
rancid yoke
As we are the only alliance that can grab this system we should be awarded the system and the service activated for free at the very least
open jackal
We want to share bps or sell and trade with other members in our alliance... a marketplace... not a hard concept. Or be able to gift them as part of donating to alliance. But that has been in development for 2 years..
abstract gate
@rancid yoke we were uncontested for the system as well. The constant problems are getting to be really agitating.
cosmic urchin
We had a gigantic fight set up, everyone planned for it. We fought it out for a long time until we realized this wasn’t getting fixed. Enormous rss waste. No chance we get compensated in anywhere close to the amount.
abstract gate
Oh wow we didn't even have any fight. We showed up for a fight and other alliance bordering it is going for the system.
cosmic urchin
I would’ve much rather just lost the fight than this ridiculousness.
abstract gate
Is not going for the system
rancid yoke
Same with our guys planned to be on at the takeover time another alliance showed up to just disrupt us but we always use cheap repair ships for the capture nodes and our best ship to fight it out but I understand @cosmic urchin
open jackal
We had our entire coalition show for this system to take it. A total of 11 alliances with 80 players in each alliance with 4 and 5 fighters per person. It should be awarded for free now. Over 800 active players took time for us to capture.
nova schooner
@open jackal maybe thats what crashed it!
remember when they said having 2 ships per person in the anamoly systems crashed the events......
runic harness
Question: (I think I know the answer): Can you abandon a captured teritorry befor the week is over, in orde to capture another zone you are more interested in?
rancid yoke
Yes you can any commodore or the Admiral can @runic harness
open jackal
@nova schooner that was supposed to be fix in the last maintenance.
nova schooner
relax.... im making light of the situation
ripe hatch
So royally screwed
runic harness
@> Yes you can any commodore or the Admiral can @runic harness
@rancid yoke Thank you for the quick answer
nova schooner
we are going for our 3* system in 56min (tholus) so i get it
open jackal
I was actually going to offer my services if they need someone to re architect there datacenter and put a solution in place that can handle the loads and not crash.
ripe hatch
Server 27 same problem, we were not going to be contested and gathered materials just to not be able to start
scenic cloud
Star link isn't fully functional. Beta testing in progress.
open jackal
Better be huge compensation... all the servers and thousands of man hours wasted
nova schooner
@open jackal gueniune question. what would need to be in the comp chest for you to be like "yeah, this makes up for that xxx"
steady narwhal
our alliance was able to start an uncontested sector 7pmEst
low matrix
Server 27... time and money spent, planned, gathered everyone to represent, waited the full hour uncontested... we should get full rights to the broken area.
open jackal
At least a research pack, a base pack and a interceptor pack.
nova schooner
so you are saying that each person should get $300 in packs?
open jackal
Yup... they easily wasted over $150,000 in man hours
scenic cloud
👀
open jackal
At $30/hr this affected well over 5000 players.. thats a $150,000.
nova schooner
you know this is a game, right?
scenic cloud
Pixel
open jackal
And at the cost of the packs
scenic cloud
For pixels
nova schooner
and the average hourly wage in the US is $19.33/hr
open jackal
Min wage in Alberta, Canada is $15/hr.
nova schooner
so you are saying that 5000 players on average, make double the minimum wage in alberta?
open jackal
Most do here.. min wage is $15, mcdonalds starts at $19 here.
nova schooner
right, which is $14.77USD
so theres that
so the average person makes 25.40/hr (19.33USD -> CAD)
open jackal
I go by my industry which is computers. I higher jr guys at $35 hr
nova schooner
right... so scopely didnt make a $115k USD mistake here, not by a long shot
cosmic urchin
Ha, apparently ours was the only bugged system. Gonna go walk off into the forest now.
open jackal
Lol
nova schooner
and its saturday where the "average" person isnt working
and you yourself said that you guys left at the 1/2 way mark, which would still mean a $75k USD mistake... which its still not
open jackal
No our guys where there till the end.. still in there waiting. Haha
nova schooner
well, with salaries like that, you'd think they would be smart and leave
open jackal
But you cant go by min wage as there are dr etc that take time to play, so you need an average of everyone.
nova schooner
i didnt go by min wage, i went by the "average" wich is $25.40/hr CAD
but it really doesnt matter.... each person isnt going to get $300 in packs for this. i can tell you that for CERTAIN
and if they do, i want this kinda mistake to happen everyday to be compensated at your rate
open jackal
No.. we will get 10 mil par 100k trit and 10k dil. Lol
cosmic urchin
We will get nothing because only one zone was bugged. The number of effected players is too small for them to care, and they won’t notice HOW effected we were.
open jackal
It should be compensated by ops level though.
dapper drum
makala is bugged as well
@cosmic urchin tspk didn't get ownership after their takeover
dapper drum
well it showed a takeover occuring then when was over was still neutral
open jackal
Its a database issue i know that.. give it a cpl hrs and they will fix it.
open jackal
Devs are aware of the issue and looking into it
open jackal
I know that, our whales escalated the issue as they are part of our alliance.
open jackal
Being in IT i do know stuff gets fixed. I get paged at 3am a lot. Usually for stupid things
open jackal
A minor issue will get left... events not working is major enough to page guys in. They loose too much money from guys not buying packs to upgrade and repair ships for fighting for zones.
nova schooner
@open jackal do we play the same game????
open jackal
Our server seems to be pretty decent on getting things fixed.
karmic sedge
Lol anyone play Warzone? Giant triple AAA gaming company, and they literally break the game every patch
And take 2 hot fixes to fix it
solemn tusk
abstract gate
<@&509691205798592532> what is gonna be done about the alliances that planned and waited to get the territory that was broken? Do we get a chance to get it soon or are we know going to be behind a week because of a broken game? Can we get any answer on what is going to happen?
pseudo rover
Use search to check my recent messages. I'm off to bed, goodnight chat 👋
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abstract gate
Yep. Generic response with no clear answer to anything. Another words screw you and the money you put into this game. We don't care!
But then again if they cared the game would probably work as it should, not like it's a high school project.
earnest hornet
Yep. Generic response with no clear answer to anything. Another words screw you and the money you put into this game. We don't care!
@abstract gate
So you would’ve complained also if they waited to announce anything till they had an answer.
People complain when they wait till they have more info. But then people complain when they make an announcement that they know about the issue and are looking into it.
So what do you want... they to say nothing at all till they know more??
And so Microsoft never have an issue and don’t release patches, PlayStation? Xbox? Ea games? Everyone has issues and they will get fixed as soon as they can,
abstract gate
They could give something with a general time frame. "There was a problem we will be re-running that system at the earliest able time to keep all players on an even playing field for availability for the territory event" or something. Not we are gonna watch the next couple takeovers..... Great so do we wait for the week and get behind on what we planned for? I understand no definite time frame is available but would be nice to have a response that is not typical corporate generic response. To many corporations don't care or have pride in anything they do. How about scopely not follow that model! But that's to much to ask I guess.
earnest hornet
So you want them to do things when they have no idea yet exactly what went wrong. Or still working on it.... Right....
And when they know more they will respond.
Ok so you want them to re run a territory when they haven’t even had a chance to figure out what went wrong yet??
Seriously??
knotty birch
No I’m stupid
Your so smart - just call it stevensaaron discord and you type everything.
earnest hornet
At least they gave a response to let you know that they know about it and are looking into it....
They could have said nothing at all. Until they know more?
abstract gate
When the power goes out for a town, the power company atleast tries to pass on something. It may start as a 1 day fix time frame and can take shorter or longer. But they try to keep you in the loop. Not asking for every detail or anything but is the plan going to be re run the event when it's fixed? Or just gonna wait till event resets for that system in 7 days? Atleast some general attempt info goes along ways. If we have to wait for the 7 day wait then we can plan accordingly to use the required proginator cores or save them. Not asking exacts of anything just what is the plan about the said problem?
earnest hornet
And so the announcement they made so far wasn’t keeping people in the loop?? Of course everyone wants to know more, but they can’t give information out that they haven’t organised yet.
knotty birch
I actually run technology businesses in the oil and gas sector. I also spend money and experience customer service. This is weak
abstract gate
I agree @earnest hornet . They could atleast say what there plan, or attempted goal, is after the fix regardless of time frame. Being limited cores that can be gathered by some alliances some need to plan out. My alliance did decent with getting them but would suck if we go for a different system and used some then they blindsided us saying it is being re ran in 6 hours and then we don't have the cores. Planning is what I try to do all the time. Nothing is locked in stone and I know that but atleast we can plan for a possibility if given a rough idea of the end game goal.
earnest hornet
@abstract gate totally 🙂 and I know they will, and DJ has been in contact with them regarding a worthwhile compensation option for those affected.
And I do agree that an announcement needs to happen, and it will, but they can’t announce a plan until they can work out what they need to do.
Some have said re-run the takeover, and if agree that could be a good option, but they won’t want to run it till they know what went wrong in the first place.
I understand what that was like, we had ours fail on the day 1, they refunded us, and gave us some extra comp, but we still had to wait till the tier 2 & 3 takeovers were done until the latest tier 1 takeovers yesterday.
So I know the frustration, but understand they can only do what they can, and it’s not the end of the world, they all come back, again, and can attempt it again another time.
abstract gate
They need to work with you @earnest hornet and have you in 100% of the loop. Then you can make a statement and word it. You just gave more info and reassurance than scopely even attempted too in you last message. Lol. I just really hope none of the alliances that were either gonna win the territory uncontested, or some that had a huge battle for the territory don't get screwed by lack of info till it's to late. We planned for this take over for over 3 days with making sure players were online and everything. But good chat and hope you enjoyed my hard headed open minded speaches.
earnest hornet
@abstract gate haha yea totally 😂😂 and appreciate the fact some can have an open discussion without ending in insults 😛😂 yea we had ours planned, and I’m in an EU server but a lot of us are in NZ meaning that takeover was 3am for us. 😂
abstract gate
Ouch. The times was part of our planning to have optimal player access for our alliance.
earnest hornet
👍🏼😂
granite obsidian
Origin takeover. How are points calculated? Is it a napshot of the ststem at time 0, time 1min, time 2 min. Etc. Meaning no value in holding node during t1.01 to 1.99. Is that true?
granite zenith
scoring as i am aware... is based on each ship being uninteruupted in its place in the system for each full min
so holding the node each min is essential
shrewd totem
Stay in there for 1min=1 point,on node=4points per min
And during override it is 3x more I think
granite zenith
it is also my understanding that engaging in combat interrupts said min from scoring
shrewd totem
Yeah keep running around with Vidars or BBs
granite zenith
or suicide thier big ships with realtas...
once your base is inside the system... the warp paths are only 5... the realta can go everywhere
eternal compass
Q: will isogen be included in latinum rush this week?
abstract gate
And so Microsoft never have an issue and don’t release patches, PlayStation? Xbox? Ea games? Everyone has issues and they will get fixed as soon as they can,
@earnest hornet this is scopely though..... 🙈 😂
icy panther
WOA, wait a minute, so engaging in combat during a takeover actually interrupts scoring?
@shrewd totem
abstract gate
WOA, wait a minute, so engaging in combat during a takeover actually interrupts scoring?
@icy panther yup..... bring out the realtas and little ships lol
tiny patio
It only interrupts if you kill the ship, not just by attacking. It still scores if its hit and survives the remaining minute.
abstract gate
🙈 😂
tiny patio
@icy panther you're a bit far away. No reason to mislead you 🙂
tribal sundial
Anyone know where to get the 'Phantom Particles'
meager galleon
Tap on them, gives you a hint 🙂
tribal sundial
I'm possibly retarded cause the hint didn't help
So I'm guessing events we haven't seen yet?
meager galleon
Yes
carmine lily
events, probably next week as the research events were this week
tribal sundial
Next question. Where do we pick up the missions to start the missions at the xx race outposts
royal flame
I am also curious about the Phantom Particles and the other resources needed in territory research tree: what will be the requirement for these events, does the ally need to have a territory of each race? Can you get the resources when your ally doesn't have a territory of this race? Please give an announcement, allies are already planning which territories they take, this is an important point
balmy current
So should I use my 300 discovery officers tokens now. Thought I saw something about officer recruitment event
royal horizon
Please give us events to earn discovery spore components, cant do research without them and summoning is important
spiral forge
glossy fog
Well done scopely a brilliant 10+ alliance battle for a territory and lag kills it dead. Server 133 also lagged to hell
dense ocean
Is scopely making jokes??? Now on server 133 qeyum system is tortally lagged, ships not attacking, now we get authentication errors!!!
@here
<@&509691205798592532>
shrewd totem
Here press this emoji it will be fixed 💩
last hamlet
Event is bollox
There are alliance with protect agreements which avoids 2 othere competing alliance to take part on on takeover
Just now we had all nodes, then gaim 2 biggest alliances and cleared us and secured nodes to smaller alliance
mystic crypt
And I thought kabam sucked scopay is in a league of their own
last hamlet
now the have help agreements and and hittin everyone to try enter to take those nodes
and to say more they arend allies
they hhave some sort of help agreements where those bigger teams just kills everybody else from systemsn
so We dont even have chance to takeover an area
nice job Scopelu
2h lost playing time for this shit.
one alliance cant stant other alliance which have 2 biggest allainces with their biggest guns protecting the systems
Make a join in time of 1min and only those who joins will do fighting but if biggers join just for hitting peoples that will not help anyways the situation
TBH this shit makes me wanna end playing the game
our alliance have zero ability to take over againts big guns
zero chance
last hamlet
Only 3 biggest teams got territory in a peace
others need help agreements to takeover
scenic cloud
Questions about my alliance of one. My supplies of 1-2-3 iso is overflowing , i have refined alot. If i drop my alliance to join a bigger one. Will my alliance inventory of refined mats of iso. Go with me. Or is it lost?
shrewd totem
Lost
tall fiber
Also seeing lots of broken nodes (server 24) where they are not resetting. It's nice having private mines, but we are slowly getting less...
zenith ether
Is Surveying the Field event broke or what ?? 😡😡
pulsar hound
@tall fiber try hopping on and off the node. Worked for me the other day
tall fiber
Thx !
gilded nebula
Question - when will we be able to share territories with alliances marked as allied
Some of us are sister teams and being able to help each other properly would be really useful
fallen karma
Server 157 ships in limbo, Vemira inaccessible, the whole thing is gone to poop
tawny marsh
The map needs to be bigger to let smaller alliances have the ability to participate.
On our server the top 10 or so alliances will control 90% of the map
sour lotus
Lost
@shrewd totem is it also lost for the alliance?
tawny marsh
Only 15 alliances are able to participate. That's only due to the fact that there were issues with zone capture yesterday and many top alliances didn't get their zones.
The map needs to increase by about 50% to allow smaller alliances a chance to participate
agile flame
<@&509691205798592532> prime protect cargo dosnt work
shrewd marsh
Either increasing the number of territories or simply reducing the maximum to say 3.
soft moss
Currently in a takeover and the points are not correct
shrewd totem
@sour lotus dont think so
acoustic lantern
can someone explain me, why you dont can see the system even when my ally captchered this system???
rough frost
It work like dark space, but yeah it s not very good. As the objective is to "capture territory", the limited view should only work for outsider.
It s my territory, let me watch it 😫
tame basalt
I agree that owned territories should be viewable. Also during takeovers please limit entry to those that are fighting to take the territory. One bug which seems to be in the app. Sometimes when you leave a territory node it will tell you that it needs to be owned by your alliance when it already is. Resetting app brings it back.
nova schooner
@agile flame what ship & tier are you using, to say that Prime Cargo doesnt work?
@acoustic lantern allies have nothing to do with territory capture, from a scopely point of view. you can not share buffs/bonus', mine in their systems, etc... only your alliances' territories matter.
acoustic lantern
i dont understand what u want to say, ktothej
nova schooner
these systems work like dark space, you can only see the system when you have a base/ship there
acoustic lantern
if i and my ally captured a system, it should be visible for me and my ally
granite zenith
prime cargo works... you are probably doing the math wrong
formula for protected cargo with prime cargo is
base protected * (1 +1 + (sum of other bonuses))
it does not double the protected cargo you were showing before
it works off the base protected number
nova schooner
@acoustic lantern that isnt how dark space works, but you are welcome to give the feedback to the team
acoustic lantern
arent we "enlightning" this "dark space"with the capturing/civilization?
...oh sorry. Starting with logic - the wrong game.. >.<
granite zenith
no... it doesnt work like that...
in dark space... where the 40+ go...
you have to be in the system to see it
Territory uses those same rules
nova schooner
^^38+ mr snake eyes!
acoustic lantern
but these systems cannot be captuered. so everything fine there for me, if it is like that
granite zenith
feed back has been passed along that the capturing alliance should be able to see... but until they work in diplomacy into territories... if they were to change that... it would be for the capturing alliance only
they may opt not to change it
nova schooner
@acoustic lantern the reason (my view) is becuase these zone promote PvP (YES!) and if you could see in the system before going there to hunt for OPL/Armadas, it would reduce the PvP action in those zones. And there really isn't any risk for you sending your ships into the zones in which your alliance has captured. i like it this way, to be honest
last hamlet
Ourt alliance stoppe caring this event
acoustic lantern
we also have to gather more res. for ship upgrades, just to pay less.. so what makes sense doesnt need to be a feature. we know this already for a long time
last hamlet
We reduced to normal G3 mining and some iso mining
No point as there are bigger alliances guarding every takeover and our smaller alliance dont have a change to participate on it
nova schooner
@last hamlet the Iso-emulsions that you get from refining them is what is needed for AWESOME research. the G3 nodes in orgins space are super fast
last hamlet
yes but we arent able to compete vs 4M ships
acoustic lantern
@nova schooner u r talking about seeing sectors of other allies or non-captured ones. i dont.
last hamlet
the kill our ships in 10s when entering
ANd they arent even doing the territory capture they just there to do pvp
nova schooner
@acoustic lantern i know and fully understand what you are talking about, and i personally like it the way they have it set up (dark space mode)
last hamlet
If 1 ally could capture only 1 area things would be different
nova schooner
@last hamlet just have your alliance save its alliance resouces for now, once the bigger guys move inland/to the 2*/3* systems, the smaller alliances will be able to get some traction
last hamlet
but as it stands mostly 6 top alliances have wepons to compete
our server those 3star nodes will go to each strongest team
and they have announced to clear everyone entering
so we dont bothere the event at all
nova schooner
yup... so has our server, its good for a shakeup... but remember, this is the first week. they will get bored of constantly watching... ill be good OPL hunting grounds
last hamlet
maybe shittiest event that scopely ever done
nova schooner
i think its awesome actually. brings some new life. good research tree. allows those guys <lvl38 to mine G4 for dailies (they can now celebrated+) and still get faction creds
exclusive nodes that mine super fast.
did i mention, good research tree???
nova schooner
maybe you should consider joining a big team!
nova schooner
then a different big team
last hamlet
not a change
were in 3 big teams
always same freaking lets go war mentality
I want do my shit in peace
nova schooner
if scopely made those rss/buffs available to everyone... what would be the benefit of the captured zones?
last hamlet
does not matter
nova schooner
if there isnt an air of "exclusivity" whats the point?
last hamlet
we do our normal daily playing for now.
nova schooner
LCARS is down for a few but ill look for you
agile flame
I did the calculations with lcar baze cargo protection
and put all resersh togueter on only base
granite zenith
ok tier 4 with cargo base is 12, 520
what other research do you have @agile flame
i just need the % to math it out
survey security in galaxy... cargo security in territory...and i think there is one more... cant remember where
edgy juniper
is swarm event bugged?
nova schooner
@edgy juniper mine seems to be working fine, what issues are you having?
granite zenith
oh i see you posted it above... hang on
12, 520 *( 1+1+.15+.75)
12520 * (2.9)
36308
look dead on because they round it
ancient light
Can we get clear guidance on players under lvl 25... Refineries can not refine raw isogen - however i see people under 25 mining it...
Does our mining contribute to anything for the alliance
Doe the raw materials get stored until we are 25
do our ships in the zone count towards capture events or do they have to be 25
Does the mining...
in capture events count towards event points
points
loud solar
@loud solar Rev Deuce as CC as well
@quartz bronze I wasn't a CC at launch lol. Just February 19 till now lol
crisp cloud
I am unclear on something.. sorry if this is a dumb question.. If your alliance is attempting a takeover, can you move your bases there during that or is it only after you have won the territory that you can move your base.
bold girder
I think only after you capture it.
supple plume
It is only after a capture @crisp cloud
dense ocean
This territory capture is a JOKE ... at least to say~!
ONLY BIG ALLIANCES are able to get in there and win
listening to ppl sasying even small aliances have a chance is a CRAP! as everyone entering the system is being slaughtered in an instant
are you listening scopelis <@&509691205798592532> ???
are you able to change the mechanics so that ONLY SIGNED UP alliance will eb able to enter the teritorry ???
FRAK THIS MECHANICS
meager galleon
Server dependant, not only big alliances
dense ocean
sorry, it is like it is , in REAL LIFE, not in SCOPELYs simulation
dense ocean
yeah we have simillar map .. but have you seen the systems PRIOR battle / capture ? it is soo flooded with NON-signed fore capture alliances that it:
blocks other entering as the system LAGS
attack ships as the system LAGS
loosing valuable seconds at least to target anyone ...
and YES, the BIG alliances BEING in COALITION with the BIG / WHALES alliacnes simply make it NOT possible to take a FAIR fight
this is NONSENSE
stray tide
depends on how many ppl are on your server Roso, our server is more or less left, event alliances with 10 active can get full territorys
meager galleon
Server diplomacy is indeed making huge battles
dense ocean
on our 133 server most of the 1* systems are captured. the rest is already pre-given. There is NO futurre in mining this CRAP isogenes. as it makes NO sense. There is no hope to fight in fair conditions.
so thank you Scopeply for sleep-less nights watching for our ISO nodes ... for what?
Does Scopely admit they make the content ONLY for PAYING ppl ???
mystic crypt
I watched a 49 hitting a system like he was hitting hostiles not much they could do to him LOL this is a joke
Not one but two
soft fossil
Does anyone have the calendar of events for this arc - image?
stray tide
Yes 1 giant whale can ruin a whole server if he wants, scopely havent been able to balance even simple pvp
More then 2 years since i started playing this game, and they still havent manage, they just want the game to be collecters paradise
pale cobalt
@soft fossil
soft fossil
@pale cobalt thank you!
pale cobalt
You're welcome 🖖
glossy fog
Lol rosso you run with what is the biggest whale on our server. With their alliance and family providing support. The issue is that there is another coalition working together to counter that.
Nothing to do with small alliances. But agreed it does cause crazy lag
dense ocean
Lol rosso you run with what is the biggest whale on our server. With their alliance and family providing support. The issue is that there is another coalition working together to counter that.
@glossy fog Largest? I'm truthfully not believing that. And the other coalition overloaded the system so it was not possible to enter the battle full-handed. Not talking about relying on agreee things that did not happen
obsidian gate
@dense ocean you completely right 👍
Hello according to me when i read all présentation around territory we should have oportunity for all alliance with sectors for low and big one, now in our 155 server diplomacy alliance play the rôle, but at the end à lvl 44 come destroyed all ships and did that so easely... Only one guy with two ships erase an alliance and any player... Not realistic but true.. And what à mess around Iso mine... We should request lessons learned..
Look what happened around previous pvp test... Same sh...
dense ocean
I would say, give all alliances taken part of the territory and LOST a FULL - GET-UP chest with 2k Green krystals, Ore, Gas ... at the end of a month? let them rise in power and see next time.
Because this way, whales only get bigger whales
weaker alliances / player simply can't compete and will not gain in power to catch up with big-foots
neat garden
Im new to ops39 and just got the Si Vis Pacem, Parabellum event for the first time. How often does this event run?
weak nebula
Is it a 7 days of officer recruit event starting tomorrow? Is it for whole week?
candid goblet
The only players who should be battling for Territory are ones who are competing for Territory. If you haven’t paid the Fee you should simply not be allowed to enter area whilst the event is on-going. This will reduce lag and stop Non Friendly alliances purposely trying to ruin progression of smaller alliances.
@toxic urchin please look in to this
last hamlet
This have asked already manytimes
currently allaince diplomation controls who gets and not. There actually no contest what so ever.
stone grail
Im new to ops39 and just got the Si Vis Pacem, Parabellum event for the first time. How often does this event run?
@neat garden I think once a month
last hamlet
IF you hava 1 big ally behind you they just kill what ever enters to the "competion" and the ally wins who have these entry killers
I were able to do 210 points with augur after survied 1st strike were able to hit one noded and get points until second hit came
neat garden
thanks
earnest rain
Anyone know if you have a chain of territories and lose the middle, what happens to the others?
abstract gate
You cannot activate services or acquire new territories unless you regain the connection by capturing the lost territory or drop unconnected territories.
earnest rain
Thank you!
smoky cosmos
Territory is a whales 🐋 thing
haughty swallow
Are the particles fixed on the map or do they move ????
abstract gate
@smoky cosmos lol, that really depends on the server. we had a mostly ftp. mostly mid level 20s alliance defeat a whale alliance yesterday just through sheer numbers.
abstract gate
Sorry mate, that is annoying. Our big alliances have pledged to stay out of captures unless one of their close allies is involved. So far 15 alliances have territories, most of them without relations to one of the whale alliances.
pale cobalt
On my server the big alliances are helping smaller alliances capture territories so not really just for whales but that said it depends on your server
smoky cosmos
Not on our server you must choose a side. Are you going to left or to the right. As independent alliance you cannot do a takeover. And that's is wrong the game mechanic is completely lost. Scopely say its for every alliance. Not true.
robust vapor
You can try getting assistance from other smaller alliances? Having allies tie up the bigger ships for you and working together on sniping the smaller takeover ships helps you to focus on just having numbers in system.
My alliance isn't small, but has no whales and has so far managed to successfully acquire 2 territories despite 2 of the top 3 rallying against us last time.
But yeah, at the end of the day their simply isn't going to be enough territories. I suspect larger alliances will start to drop low tier territories over time, but even then only so many T1's to go around..
hollow fossil
and in a worst case scenario 6 alliances can lock the rest of the server out of the Origin sector just by holding all the teir 1 systems
pale cobalt
You also need remember TC is new to STFC so it's not going to be perfect it's very much in the trial and error phase and as scopley get more feedback on TC it will improve and possibly even grow with more zones being added in future
hollow fossil
true, but not all servers are having as good of a time as others
smoky cosmos
The problem was that there are so many ship in a territory that there was lag. And there where several alliance fighting each other. Tonight we want to help a sister alliance. But it was not done because of the hundreds of ships mostly lvl 40+ with jelly an big EP. 3 parties want that territory so it was a bigh mesh
pale cobalt
Alliances being able to go in and run interference on a lot of servers is beneficial for the smaller alliances to capture zones but could be a negative on some more aggressive servers
smoky cosmos
It's to small the area much be much larger so everyone have a chance to get the iso. The little ones get only iso 1 outside the territory and only can research the first tree. The second or third no chance
hollow fossil
as much as certain players that love PVP will disagree, for takeover only, lock the system to only those alliances that have payed to enter. This lowers the lag, this stops the griefing of other alliances. ISS jelly's comming in and cleaning out the system just ruin the "fun". Once the takeover is done yes do turn it back to anyone can enter.
this would follow the logic of the token systems, you payed to enter, for someone else to enter they have to pay the same
abstract gate
So how is a small alliance going to stand a chance if their allies cannot come to help?
cyan kettle
It’s probably been asked, but outside of packs are we going to be able to get these quantum/surtax/phantom particles for research? <@&509691205798592532>
solemn tusk
Not yet joe
Coming soon
And we all know what that means
Anytime between tomorrow and next year
abstract gate
Small alliances won’t win unless they can solicit the help of a larger one. Nothing wrong with that. First you people whine about server wide PvP, now y’all whine about mechanics of a free for all PvP zone.
Wanna solve it? Designate some servers to be farmersonly.com and others allow PvP, and let anyone who wants to move across servers regardless of level, let them.
Basically, they whine if they can't win everything. Everyone gets first place in every event, or it's horribly unfair
modern crown
Totally agree. But I do like reading the emotional teary messages on here... life’s so unfair 🤣🍷
abstract gate
And everyone is going to delete the game if it isn't fixed immediately 🤣
modern crown
That’s life.!! Just delete the app 😬
abstract gate
If you can't win a territory on week one of release because you're in the 30th ranked alliance; go farm some borg, do some stella research, grow your ships, and recruit active players. Come back in a few weeks, the new content will still be there
tall fiber
Anyone hear anything about resolution for the bust yesterday during the 6pm est capture of Nyrheimur?
abstract gate
They are "monitoring the situation"
ashen wharf
I can tell you process your thoughts on a scale of stupidity if a smaller alliance is going for a zone not connected to the zone that the top alliance cannot even takeover there should be no reason for them to even be there
cyan kettle
Thanks @solemn tusk
solemn tusk
Welcome
I blame the participation awards in school. It all went south then
Idk about the other server but ours is full of half dead alliances. If admirals would do there job and merge there ppl into an active alliance they could do better. But instead everyone wants to be in charge of nothing🤣
severe bridge
Territory capture is and can be a lot of fun, but the lag on highly contested areas is IMPOSSIBLE to play.
You gotta fix that @toxic urchin
south rose
ALL HAIL THE LAG! My puny vidar vs. a massive ship had it stuck in battle for 2min+ 😂 😂 😂 Territory capture is great.
limber ivy
Event strategy, invite 6-10 friendly alliances into a zone during take over and crash the server so no one gets it.
vestal trellis
Has anyone determined what happens when you control a territory and come back around for a takeover event? It says our alliance will automatically be entered into the event but it doesn’t say if we will be required to pay the resources cost of 450k refined Isogen (tier 1).
abstract gate
You will not be required to pay again.
Yep an alliance we were helping was winning a territory, then the game goes on the fritz and freezes or stuck in battle for 10 mins. So another alliance wins it because this game rolled out an expansion fit for a $5.99 walmart special game.
icy panther
I agree with @severe bridge We just had a huge battle on our server (five alliances going for the same territory) and it was unplayable. It’s not the way anyone wants to win. And I’m sure it’s no fun losing to lag.
broken dust
Yeah server 17 just had a complete lag fest too. Is there any talk from the devs on fixes for that ... other than to useless ships😂
abstract gate
Why would anyone fix it. They will roll out with a $99 anti-lag pack per week.
candid summit
In our server, the way it is falling out is that the top 5 alliances are simply picking which alliances are going to win a capture. Not a lot that mid range alliances can do if a lvl 50 player with a 24M ship and his alliance decides they are going to put their thumb on the scale.
Interesting exercise in futility that the unbelievable lag made even more interesting.
cloud grail
the Lag Removal pack is coming Thoon. 99.99 usd works for 24 hours. Works like a shield.. but for the server and it doesnt stack.
mental island
Enough is enough. Month after month of ignoring obvious technical instabilities while selling $100+ of crap. Correct the constant and obvious server latency or enjoy the smell reeking off the corpse of your dead and uninhabited game.
abstract gate
Start a buying boycott it worked before. get everyone to stop buying their crappy packages. Till they fix the game the way you want it fixed
cloud grail
when did that work?
abstract gate
@candid summit Spend more buy your way to a bigger ship like they did
@cloud grail Sorry I fergor to put in (sarcasm)
people will always waste their money on games to be the biggest baddest guy even if the game is laggy and full of errors
candid summit
@abstract gate Yeah, the sarcasm came through just fine.
I don’t mind the model Scopely uses, however, it would be much better if it was a subscription model such as EVEonline uses. Whales will be whales, but Scopely could do a better job at balancing game play. Eventually, the Whales will get board if all us small time grinders decide to quit.
cloud grail
Know your place Bruh! We grinders are here as Plankton... Off to feed the Whales
abstract gate
well some game are now making a pay to play servers and a Free 2 Play servers.. which makes it a bit more fair for the little guys
mental island
Suggestions of better games seems entirely appropriate at this time
abstract gate
not that scopely will do that, As I am sure they would mess that up
mental island
There’s EVE. What else?
cloud grail
Christmas and Thanksgiving?
abstract gate
take time off from the games, go out see the world or the neighborhood , parks, go party at night clubs relax read a book expand your mind..
mental island
Excellent idea. Better use of time.
cloud grail
This Game is a Time Sink for everyone. Treat is as such you will do fine. I do. Those who wish to pay will win. Plain and simple.
abstract gate
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!
hasty slate
Server 34 is not handling the current capture very well💩
indigo perch
What is in the diplomacy section after you own a territory?
cloud grail
Officialy? as per Scopely Kill Em all
abstract gate
Well, this TC event is certainly are designed for big alliance, however there are now some benefits for f2p players. On server 193 about a dozen top alliances have their own zones and their own exclusive nodes, which means there are less players using the regular 3* nodes in faction spaces. Lower alliance can now mine more, which will help them. Remember that Scopely has just increase the number of 3* nodes.
abstract gate
Lag is unbearable, and needs to be fixed.
And as for smaller alliances, you might need to wait for a few days. Big alliances are going to grab up systems until they max, and take the ones with the benefits they want. You're not likely to win the first system that opened up, or the ones with 1&2iso and a combat bonus. But you might have a shot at the system with dilithium, 2iso, and a research efficiency boost
steep stone
What's up with the particles needed for research past 2* isogen, available outside of store yet?
unique quiver
Nope not yet. Pay to play Sloan
frosty remnant
Won’t be p2p actually. It will be a grind to get them during events, as of rn there’s only 1350 species rss available to buy. This was smart of scopely to do. Imo.
pure mortar
Cause we don't have enough to grind and or mine already lol.. let us who like to buy things buy it all
vital drum
What happens with server merges? Do we all get kicked out of Origin Space to start again?
wide girder
Has anyone else experienced issues in completing the 'surveyng the field' solo event?
I should be complete by now (850target) and I've done all the research (score should be 890) but my score is showing it as incomplete (790).
abstract gate
Did you do any of the research before the event started?
wide girder
Not that I'm aware of.
torpid light
Is there any expectation of another ‘Recruit Georgiou’ event this arc or is it likely they have moved fully onto the new officers?
wide girder
@round sundial have you completed the 2* mining research? It doesn't look like you have, and that worth 100pts.
warm bobcat
You should have 800 points from each of the researches at l1, and yet you have 770 total
@wide girder the 2* Isogen extraction doesn't get you any points, says so in the event description
wide girder
Ahh ok my bad.
warm bobcat
But I've had no issues completing that event, done it with plenty to spare
round sundial
There’s another above with the same issue...
warm bobcat
And again across the 8 researches that count, getting them all to l1 counts for 100 points, so should be well over 800
Looks like a research just hasn't counted
dense ocean
Also another unbalanced event, the higher level the bigger amount of refined ISO & emulsion , therefore lower levels will not be able to reach to the desired researches in time. Thanks scopely for offering me to buy overpriced packages, but no.
dense ocean
I have the same problem with counting of points in the event. should have already 830, but having only 730
agile pecan
I'm guessing you did one before the start of the event
quasi path
Same problem with the research event, missing few points to complete it.
grand pulsar
We ever going to see Faction kill events again? Mining Mondays are so boring, and really the rewards suck horribly.
shrewd totem
both of them are boring
merry fulcrum
Faction hunt is fine, good rewards for the grind
And mining Monday is easy, just mine while you're not playing
Stop caring about losing a opc dvor once in a while
shrewd totem
good rewards doesnt make an event fun
Fun is in playing the game not being rewarded for your time and killing 400 hostiles isnt fun at ALL
inland kelp
Are we going to be doing the Hoobishan takeover? It's 1hr 50 min away
merry fulcrum
Meh it's a mobile game, you're not getting much in the way of fun
Are we going to be doing the Hoobishan takeover? It's 1hr 50 min away
@inland kelp no you are not
severe bridge
i agree, the only reason people vote faction hunt as "the best event" is because the rewards are good. It's not fun at all.
shrewd totem
I would say something about that but wouldnt be appropriate 🤐
shrewd totem
?
scenic cloud
Are we mining lat? On mining Monday or iso?
For those above that are complaining of being not able to finish event
severe bridge
Their screenshots above show research prior to the 2* iso that should have completed the event, so i don't think that's the issue
south arrow
The last faction hunt was much better similar to hostile hunt
scenic cloud
Ok,
shrewd totem
if you checked their ss you would know they already did more than 870 points without 2 iso and above research
#readingishard
scenic cloud
I need crayons
This what it took to complete the event. No more no less
I could be Wrong but next research event. Will be for iso 2 research? And above?
abstract gate
@scenic cloud I hope they give us an event to earn these particles then!
shrewd totem
that is more than what is needed
that ss has or should have 960 points if I didnt calculated wrong
scenic cloud
Then its broken because I stopped after completing
scenic cloud
Scopley math?
shrewd totem
just broken like rest of the game
granite zenith
isnt this also the 2nd research event?
i thought there was a 3 day one previous
if they scored some on the first one... and some on the second 🤷♂️
maybe not... maybe it was a 6 day one
or 5 day
granite zenith
👍
edgy dagger
Any anniversary event dates/info been posted?
shrewd totem
there is still 10days I think
cobalt flare
I am enjoying Territory Capture. It's sparked some interesting PvP, not only during actual takeover attempts. I also think the rewards for Arc 3 are coming at an increased pace, which is better.
abstract gate
29th nov 2018 was global launch day
deft owl
New Recruits - Solo has only Gain Shards & Promote Officer wheras the Alliance Leaderboard as Hostiles as well.. is this a bug or is this expected?
potent temple
agile cosmos
Anomalous Phoenomena - Mine Mycelium isn't working
merry fulcrum
Oh look, no events that give phantom, quantum or the other Particle still
deft owl
Its only specific systems as described in the description, please check if you are in the right system
merry fulcrum
Thx scopely for getting us free to plays even further behind
agile cosmos
yeah its flagged systems
deft owl
ok then its a bug
abstract solstice
omg this game has turned into a mining game 🤬
merry fulcrum
omg this game has turned into a mining game 🤬
@abstract solstice always has been especially if you're a free to play
abstract solstice
@merry fulcrum I am not and the amount of mining events today is ridiculous
merry fulcrum
It's the usual amount, mining Monday is every Monday, Master survey is just timed to make it easier
Don't have to do Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday mining
Just Monday and Tuesday
shrewd heron
Is it just me, or is the mycelium mined not registering for the flash event?
primal cairn
It is for me. Are u in the correct system that it tells u in the event
mossy bramble
the addition of myc mining event is ridiculous...at least make it lap over with data and iso
overlap*
in lat rush
finite talon
No points for summoning the discovery 🙈 😂
granite zenith
yes,,, its summon OTHER ships
you dont summon the discovery... you black alert it
quasi token
Mining Mycilium plus mining event. Really want to kill us of boredom here. 😴🥱
fierce thorn
No isogen ?
foggy forge
@twilit imp Long slow hand clap for scopely dropping 3 concurrent mining events 👏 Way to turn players off the game guys, really, well done 🤦♂️
keen citrus
Well done Scopely, for making the game even more mundane than it already is 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😡
carmine lily
Star Trek mining simulator!
keen citrus
May as well call it Minerville.
warm plover
Not the Mods fault, I get being upset but complaining to them is like telling a duck your mad about the geese.
abstract gate
Mining simulator might even be fun, I do like it a lot better in Elite Dangerous. It's not even that, just keeping you busy and improving interaction rates.
carmine lily
We need a few more in game currencies too, there’s not quite enough...
abstract gate
Couldn't agree more, and also have more stuff to refine that you can then refine to something else
limber tide
Anomalous event not giving points for mining Mycelium
sturdy junco
I'm not getting points for mycelium either.
abstract gate
Then you are probably mining in the wrong systems.
It only counts in 5 or so, just check the event description ingame.
limber tide
sorry missed that
candid goblet
Territory Takeover - Stuck in Combat for 6 minutes 😡
crude aurora
Ridiculous. Game frozen during takeover.
glossy fog
Congratulations scopely, the game is lagged because of ship combat numbers. Who would have ever imagined that people would compete for territories🤣
Server 133
<@&509691205798592532>
Not able to do anything
crude aurora
Can’t say more
shrewd totem
1 sec releasing server fix pack
crude aurora
Takeover ends in 16min. So that’s too late
mild bluff
give compensation and with money invest in serveur
exotic brook
Could scopely use the billion dollars they make to buy some server ? 😂
shrewd totem
Ummm no! They have more "important" stuff to buy!
crude aurora
Not even able to loggin
exotic brook
The poor player that don't even know about the TO fight must be so frustrated
glossy fog
😱😱😱😱😱
cerulean sedge
Is there any more information about the Nyrheimur glitch from Saturday? Are we just in a holding pattern until Scopely releases some news, or does anyone know what might happen?
I'm already missing out on the 4* bonus for lat rush and it looks like we may miss the window for the capture of the adjacent 2 diamond later today.
candid goblet
Ok so connection issue now - server 133 needs fixing
ocean mango
EU 133 obviously not populated enough, please merge us with some more servers 💩 💩
sweet roost
Yeah we are not enough in the systems
dense ocean
Ummm no! They have more "important" stuff to buy!
@shrewd totem seriously? Joker on you! Better dark superman
candid goblet
I bought Prime Lag pack from Store
dense ocean
I am just a player.... not much I can do
@shrewd totem you're the moderator for Christ sake, get the red phone up and talk to them
shrewd totem
We are the biggest PvPers in my server so I do understand how annoying lagfest is as all of our zones had massive lag
Being moderator doesnt mean much. The response I get is same as you guys
NOTHING
sweet roost
Rsponse is "Buy more packs" 🙂
hexed lark
<@&509691205798592532> Anomalous Phenomenon is NOT awarding points for mining mycillium.
dense ocean
Is @twilit imp having panic at least?
dire veldt
@hexed lark are you sure you are mining in the right systems?
lethal yew
@dire veldt
He didn’t even read the regulations. :))
urban spire
<@&509691205798592532> what’s the word on hyrheimu?
shrewd totem
🤷♂️
urban spire
<@&509691611903426561> have you guys heard anything?
hexed lark
Cleared cash and fixed itself. Had tried normal app restart before.
chrome rune
🤷
pseudo rover
We're still fully expecting some form of recognition on the subject but not much else to share other than that we're being adamant about it. 😕
urban spire
Thank you John.
merry fulcrum
If only scopely patched this as fast as they patched the refinery issue and the stella issue
patent plaza
Mine loads of Spores for the next few hours or buy a pack for warp summoning. 😂
modern estuary
wow way to much mining
abstract gate
Question about Territory Takeover:
If a clans owns connected T1, T2 and T3 zones and then wants to takeover an additional T1 zone that is not connected to the owned territory...
- he has to forfeit /abandon the owned T1 zone, takes the new T1 but also keeps the owned T2 and T3
- he has to forfeit all owned zones to get the new T1
What is correct?
nova valley
He has to be adjacent. However you make that happen.
If you cannot become adjacent then you have to absndon everything and start over
abstract gate
Sorry for asking... you asume that or know for sure? The rules are not that clearly written.
granite zenith
Written down... See rules in #⭐-official-announcements
abstract gate
I have read this before. I was hoping that some details about abandoned zones is given. The FAQ give some hints but dont say what happens to connected zones if you abandon one of them.
Thanks!
granite zenith
If it's not connected you cannot activate new services nor expand your territory unless you a) retake the territory or b) abandon unconnected territories so that you once again have a continuous warp path through all owned territories
abstract gate
Could you keep a T2 or T3 only (standalone or connected) and abandon the lower tiers? E.g. have T1, T2, T3 first and then abanon T1. Or do you always need 1, 2, 3
nova valley
No you can abandon anything. And capture anything adjacent.
abstract gate
Thanks
nova schooner
@toxic urchin are you online, was wondering if you could look at missing lat rush points for me?
sour lotus
We know something about an uc spend event this arc like with georgiou?
tepid agate
@pearl ruin
I am not sure if this has been brought up yet
Is there a way to make these war times not happen during the middle of a work day? I am offering some feedback is all. Not sure if all Territory timers are n the same time format or linked.. I understand the territory is large, but something to consider would be to have multiple zones being contested at the same time. Again, new content, just throwing out some thoughts from a war we just experienced in a heavily contested zone. This was on server 40 in the Crios Zone. Also I am pretty sure we maxed the system load if you wanted to go over the data. Was 7 or 8 fleets versus 3 fleets. By the end of the fight I was receiving 20-25 sec long fight animations.
Thank you for Territory!! It is amazing and fun.
pearl ruin
We know something about an uc spend event this arc like with georgiou?
@sour lotus There will be some events coming up, however they are not going to be related to this arc's content.
severe bridge
cryptic!
shrewd totem
Let me guess,Harisson and Jelly auctions
severe bridge
or georgio/barnum, as they aren't specific to to "this arc's content"
pearl ruin
@pearl ruin
I am not sure if this has been brought up yetIs there a way to make these war times not happen during the middle of a work day? I am offering some feedback is all. Not sure if all Territory timers are n the same time format or linked.. I understand the territory is large, but something to consider would be to have multiple zones being contested at the same time. Again, new content, just throwing out some thoughts from a war we just experienced in a heavily contested zone. This was on server 40 in the Crios Zone. Also I am pretty sure we maxed the system load if you wanted to go over the data. Was 7 or 8 fleets versus 3 fleets. By the end of the fight I was receiving 20-25 sec long fight animations.
Thank you for Territory!! It is amazing and fun.
@tepid agate Let me take this feedback to the team. In general we looked at peak participation times per region to set up the takeover times... seems lots of people play in during work breaks. We understand not all hours work for everyone though, why we tried to have a varied schedule.
severe bridge
@pearl ruin how about the lag, is that something that will be looked at? Territory capture can be fun, but if more than 2 alliances are in the mix, it seems the servers can't handle it.
nothing like 3 min battles and inability to target ships
solar fog
Too much lag.
knotty birch
@pearl ruin any news on running Nyrheimur takeover? This has caused us significant issues with strategy and money spent on research/materials so we could take this uncontested first time around. It would good to get this re-run ASAP if possible.
pearl ruin
@pearl ruin how about the lag, is that something that will be looked at? Territory capture can be fun, but if more than 2 alliances are in the mix, it seems the servers can't handle it.
@severe bridge It will be looked at, if anything at all this gives a clearer mandate to our BE / Server team to dedicate resources to improve performance. To be more specific, before we only had specific events or situations that spiked lagged and mostly it was caused by Live Ops actions (events / gifts) and missions, but now its coming from an evergreen "loop" inside the game.
sleek hornet
@toxic urchin are you online, was wondering if you could look at missing lat rush points for me?
@nova schooner I've got the same issue
nova schooner
@pearl ruin are you part of the dev team? Can you look at missing points for lat rush on a specific account?
sour lotus
@pearl ruin thanks bud
pearl ruin
@nova schooner @sleek hornet Sadly, even if we see you are missing points the events are not set up in a way that we can provide the missing points. That does not mean we will not look into this, just wanted to temper your expectations coming in.
I am working on a change that would allow us to add points to the events, its not just there yet
nova schooner
I’ll shoot you a PM so you can have the details
sleek hornet
Sad to hear @pearl ruin would make a difference of 9M points in the SLB
tepid agate
@pearl ruin
I agree, however a 45 minute battle is not conducive for peoples work breaks. Nor 1 hour Wars. 30 minutes sure, 15 minutes, yes. 🙂
Thank you for the reply
nova schooner
Dang 9mil? Mine is 2mil, but is what it is
gilded nebula
More 1* territories would be good too
So more alliances can get a chance to progress at all
As the big guns own them all
tepid agate
To give you an idea of the complexity of the fight, myself had 163 battles in the 45 minutes. I was active the whole time. I had some people have to leave early, and some come late from fleet. Some on East Coast were back at work as it was 3pm and lunch was over. This was a true on test of what it can be for the size of battle we had. Folks could not zone into the Beta system it was full.
lone ember
Nods
nimble vine
Anyone know how to get phantom particles without spending in the store
knotty birch
None yet
smoky cosmos
Territory is a whale pvp area
agile flame
<@&509691205798592532> small sugestion.... on a TAKEOVER make a lite SLB event of Power destruction for the alliances into it
slate plinth
Does anyone know if, when your current territory takeover starts, it costs mats to join? Our embassy says you automatically join the next takeover, but nothing about cost
grizzled rune
Yep, only the top 10 alliances can manage to take and hold a territory, that leaves the rest of us out. This arc sucks rocks.
abstract ice
Experiencing one of the dumb things about the game: we have 100+ ships capturing a territory and there is one tagless spoiler with a 20m korinar is just killing everyone to pad his pwd destroyed. 3 and 4m g3 ships not even scratching the paint.
grizzled rune
Never saw a reason to chase after the PD numbers, you don't get any in game rewards for having the highest PD number.
If they do change it to where you did get a reward for it, it would have all of the whales chasing it and totally ruin the game. I would leave and take what little I do spend with me.
slate plinth
@abstract ice Try having a level 50 with 28m ship on your server that can ruin any alliance's day......
It forkin sucks lol
halcyon citrus
Hope your still watching take over this is bs
opal tree
@slate plinth you pay the fee for the first time you claim a zone, no need to pay again to reclaim it
swift plinth
Never saw a reason to chase after the PD numbers, you don't get any in game rewards for having the highest PD number.
@grizzled rune Wanna come talk to some players on my server? They think PD makes them hot S*** lol... even though they just get it by hitting miners
brazen rapids
<@&509691205798592532> any updates regarded the failed 3* from last week and corresponding rewards?
open jackal
<@&509691205798592532> can you check on server26 in 40 minutes for the battle in abilakk. We have coalition alliances that duke it out and the server lags/crashes so bad we have ships in battle for 4-10 minutes at a time. We have had this happen in 4 different systems now.
Litterally to the point you can not even get into the game on a restart.
tall fiber
<@&509691205798592532> same question. Still awaiting awarding / rerun of Nyrheimur for server 24 as well. Here was my CS customer feedback
brazen rapids
Quality care right there
knotty birch
You have to be ******* joking! @tall fiber. We are a 78 player alliance and trust me for the whole duration we tried everything. The thing was bugged and is being looked in to by the Devs so that is total BS from customer service as usual!
A simple compensation chest does not cover that one I can tell you.
tall fiber
Not necessarily trying to throw anyone under bus, but just wanted an update after 3 days have passed since initially reported by many many servers, etc. For us, we were uncontested but couldn't join so it was a total bust path we took and now the board is filling up. Compensation chest is fine, but we really just want the territory. Today we missed the next territory we had planned after it since we didn't have it.
I understand it takes some developer time to figure out the issue, but after some time, hopefully there is a plan that can be shared?
@granite zenith save us from above :)
knotty birch
We were uncontested too @tall fiber and likewise next time will be a bloodbath!
granite zenith
ha @tall fiber no news has made it to my ears as of yet...
tall fiber
Who we gonna call?
abstract gate
mental yoke
So what happens when you are stuck in battle for minutes at a time? Are you scoring points for being in the territory if you are stuck in battle?
tall fiber
I wanted to try warping constantly between systems on the same territory :p
@abstract gate "heman heman" :)
cyan kettle
I’m wondering if scopely anticipated non competing alliances helping those that join takeovers or if they assumed the only people in the systems would be the ones that joined the takeovers.
knotty birch
It’s free pvp so yeah they should have expected it and indeed encourage it - imagine the ship repairs that are making resources return to the Scopely black hole! All $$$ to replenish.
open jackal
<@&509691205798592532> server 26 is broken again... middle of the battle... cant even get in game... messages for too many ships in system. 5 min+ battles...
pearl epoch
My ship is frozen in wasp from this battle lol
dense shadow
Not working
winged thorn
Way to fail scopely ... not only do the participants in the takeover who have a vested interest get over run by other interfering alliances who want to control all territories. So many ships are in the territories at once that the entire server crashes not just the territory but the entire server! Over and over ... all day... Huge Fail... only the people with paths to and paid entrance for takeover should be allowed entry!
dull pagoda
indigo perch
Jcman does not represent server 26, he is our resident complainer. Yes, server 26 is having issues, but the majority of us see no need to insult the programmers.
solar fog
Scopley has failed on an epic level. 5 min fights in a takeover. Game crashed so much. Way to go.
young pilot
100% agree. Out of all the BS scopley does, this is by far the biggest fail.....and I went through borgmadas. Scopley has a very good idea of the player interaction in a contested system and the load it will put on servers. Here's to you Scopley🖕
lapis fox
I agree total crap
carmine lily
Yeah, it started out fairly quiet but now virtually everyone jumps in on every single capture attempt and it lags out so much nobody can do anything.
jaunty copper
Take overs are crashing server.
odd laurel
JC definitely doesn't speak for server 26 and not even his own alliance, all the stuff he's complaining about-his alliance does. They were in it too.
winged thorn
Haha whatever FYR it’s the shared opinion of loads of people and not just my server as seen by the comments. Territory is a pile of garbage for many reasons. Let teams fight on their own, it’s not complicated. And wait for it.... it won’t crash the entire server... It doesn’t take a genius to see how this would play out.
wise cedar
When you show up for territory capture
carmine lily
Unfortunately alliances have teamed up for a long time and they tend to help each other out. Because of this, other alliances have felt the need to call in help and takeovers inevitably end up as a massive laggy slugfest.
On top of that i'm sure the major whal alliances on every server are probably jumping into everything and stomping everyone just because they can.
There was a reason the pvp level ranges existed in the first place...and were changed later on.
odd laurel
He's making a big fuss about 21 alliances going at it and his was one of the uninvolved alliances. They shud have stayed in their territory then if they think it's not fair. They whooped us the other day and he STILL freaking cried about it. Who does that? "We won and we're gonna cry about anyway"
willow pewter
Territory event is made for the big whales. Not for the common player. Big whales move in before the event starts, clear everyone out, and take over. This event is so ooo much fun. What a frikin joke. Jajaja
Not wasting my time, effort, and definitely not my money. 🎈☝️🖕
abstract gate
Nobody from Scopely reads this stuff. Wasting time...
bronze arch
Yep, had some scraps with 4 alliances, 70 members each with 3-5 ships each all going mad at eachother. No issues
shrewd totem
4.... we didnt had less than 8 alliances
bronze arch
🤷♂️ dont know what to say, all good on our end so far. No crashes and no noticeable lag
winged thorn
As usual, some can’t see past her own nose and what she wants to see. The issue is that scopely set it up this way. It’s the same nonsense for everyone. It’s not PvP, or team vs team-the most fun people are having now is crashing the server and mocking scopely. Scopely is requiring this territories for research critical to everyone yet they set it up so whale teams can take that away by interfering with everyone beyond their 5 territories. If it was just “optional” and only a “gated community” that might be bad enough but it’s mandatory which hurts the game and hurts all non whales who would like to stay with their smaller team and still perform equitably if given time.
bronze arch
Maybe its a player mentality issue rather than a scopley issue? If people are turning up just to cause havoc then thats on them and no one else. If its gated then some wont be able to take part and will complain. Would be right back at square one with someone complaining
shrewd totem
so we have PvP zones but we shouldnt PvP,great thinking 👏
abstract gate
The zones are definitely getting laggy. Especially the ones durring primetime over the weekend that had full attendance from multiple alliances. I still think people need to calm their butts. Everyone was in here crying foul that their power rank 35 alliance didn't win a zone on day one.
raw zenith
If you have a problem with some whales crashing your party, make friends with the whales that are their rivals. Coming here complaining about whales is pointless. Without whales this game would not exist.
hybrid sigil
Our first lvl 1 territory system comes up for takeover tomorrow. Do all alliances have the ability to join the take over because it is a lvl 1?
dire veldt
alliances who already have captured territiory will not be able to attempt a takeover unless it is adjacent to a system they own, any alliance who hasn't captured a territory already will be able to contest it, they have to pay the takeover fee to attempt while your alliance wont have to pay again
hybrid sigil
thanks @dire veldt So if we have 5 territories and want to move to the other side of the map, we need to rotate across or abandon all 5 ?
abstract gate
Yep
hybrid sigil
If we were to gift our lvl one territory to a smaller ally, how does that affect or lvl 2 systems when timer runs out? Can we still activate the Buffs without an attached lvl 1?
dire veldt
as long as your territory is one continous block you can activate services
abstract gate
Even without a lvl1 in it?
shrewd totem
yes
hybrid sigil
Thanks for the help.
neat garden
I was buzzing when it first came out, but after last nights debacle on EU-135, im not looking forward to the next heavily contested takeover
45 minute takeover; 3 10 minute single ship battles; 15 minutes of splash screen
winged tulip
I'm finding it pretty amusing so far - but we've got a good win record against the whale alliance, who think that they should be allowed to help their allies but we're cheating and crashing the server when we do the same. Personally i think they're not used to having a challenge they can't buy their way out of..
candid goblet
@twilit imp @toxic urchin Sure you know but more and more good people from my server (133) are quitting the game now due to Work/Life balance - main reason - you have not listened to players and instead of reducing grind you have Doubled It, other reasons are Mass Lag and bugs. I don’t want to see more good players leave. Please listen to your players and reduce grind - it’s too much!
shrewd totem
45 minute takeover; 3 10 minute single ship battles; 15 minutes of splash screen
@neat garden sounds like soo much fun!
winged tulip
tbh problem isn't the takeovers, it's even more mats to mine all the time. To stay on top you need to mine for daily refines of 1/2/3* iso, and now some stupid mycelium mining event when we get more than we ever need just from event rewards already..
silent horizon
Agreed. Too much mining, way too boring. There are too many resource types in this game
neat garden
@shrewd totem not the best 45 minutes of my life, but almost certainly not the worst. Onwards and upwards! (optimism is good right?)
neat garden
no, surely not
Hope is what makes me grind dailies every day, and mine endlessly, and continue despite TC battles being arse.
abstract gate
New prime nodes will be grindable like all prime nodes. We will have events this arc that will give particles and a more permanent solution after that
@toxic urchin
Do we have any more info about the event that will allow us to gain particles? Anything you can share would be appreciated
solar fog
Like they are gonna share anything with us in that regard. Laughable 🤣. This has turned out to be nothing but a money grab. The servers can’t handle the PvP action in a capture as well. About to leave the game as it is now pay to play at my level of 40.
hearty raptor
What happens if you have 3 zones but lose the connecting middle zone? Can you have disconnected territories?
nova valley
Yes. But cannot activate any services anywhere until the zone is connected again.
So recapture the missing link or abandon One side
hearty raptor
@nova valley cheers 👍
north pike
How is the Territory Inventory Contribution calculated? I am L33 and my contribution is showing as 3M which is a lot lower than players of the same level that I know have not bought packs - which is around 13M. We had 1* Zone since Wednesday, 2* Zone since yesterday and I have refined all 1*, 2*,3* Isogen and Alloy to cores at every possible oppotunity. I did activate the 2* zone takeover which would have deducted 500k 2* Iso and 50k Cores and also activated the 2* service which would have been 780k 2* Iso and 40k Diodes. I assume therefore these will have been a deduction from my contribution but that only equates to 1.37M deduction.
wise cedar
It’s comical that some folks are so narrow minded to think alliances with territories helping others is about creating chaos. Or that it’s a personal attack. If you actually look at the board, how you need special particles from different races. You might understand why. If you’re simply picking territories based of the buffs you’re missing the whole point of the content.
merry fulcrum
👀
gilded patrol
@north pike Click the little i in the upper right of the leaderboard, it'll show scoring
carmine lily
How are they having a recruit event for officers that are impossible to recruit? There’s no current way to get cards for them.
nova valley
$$$ packs are available 🤣
carmine lily
Like I said, no current way to get them. There are no packs in my store.
mental yoke
The Anomalous phenomenon event gives disco refinery shards, which can net some disco officer cards when refined. So I guess that is their technical loophole. But still...
north pike
@gilded patrol thx - although still can't work out the maths for how I am 10M lower than expected as spending 1.28M 2* would euate to deduction of 96M and 90k progenitor would be dedcution of 81M
I have done the calculation and based on my refines and Iso from the battle pass I should be on 11.8M points so the difference has to be as I activated takeover and service but can't work out why it 8.1M lower.
pulsar hound
@north pike I've had a similar issue. I've noticed every time I activate a TC service for my alliance it reduces my points by some or all of the cost of that service.
winged tulip
What points? Only contribution leaderboard i've seen was pulled a day or two ago
gilded patrol
Yeah, our Commodore that activates the services and starts the takeovers has the second-fewest points in the alliance, even though he's hit every refine. Sounds like it's subtracting expenditures from their contribution score?
hybrid coral
😀
jagged inlet
@carmine lily not sure what you going on about. You got recruit tokens your fine, if you have spent then outside of an event. Shame on you
tall fiber
So if you have 5 territories and want to capture a new one, do you have to abandon one BEFORE paying to start territory capture the next or, can you start a new territory capture and if win then decide? I could imagine a strategy where you start a capture and before you win or lose, you have to decide.
winged tulip
Can't start until you've got a slot free afaik
mossy bramble
why doesn't mining event for the battle pass include iso? aren't you guys pushing the new content?
pale cobalt
New content ships and nodes are never included in battlepass event or normal events until the content have ended and even then they aren't always included
static wigeon
Don't think so @flint kettle
warm bobcat
Left one behind when you abandoned didn't you Zıggy?
rugged coyote
no they dont but, they wont be able to shield
static wigeon
Not only is it weird that this event doesn't include mining ISO but also hoped that the rewards would include some research particles
I think we did yes
rugged coyote
what happened to the territory capture channel, they remove it?
young pilot
@gilded patrol Is correct. In the Alliance Territory, under the inventory tab, select the bar graph to see what your alliance has contributed. Scopley, however, messed up how they are calculated.
The officer that enters his/her alliance into a TC or activates a service has those materials subtracted from what they have contributed. I have purchased a couple alliance packs and have hit every refine. I have entered our alliance into the almost all the competitions and activated most of the services. Currently, it shows my as contributing zero.
gilded patrol
Yup, that commodore I mentioned earlier activated another bonus and went from 75th place to off the board entirely.
young pike
Yes which ever commadore that actives capture or services your contribution gets taken away. It has happened to me.
Not a big deal but it makes it look like you haven’t helped. As long as group nows that is what is happening then it shouldn’t be an issue
plucky ermine
The Vidar event is actually quite likeable
let's hope that franklin and Dvor will be similiar
scarlet seal
Vidar event is a joke, 10 kills on lvl33 Borg Probs and done
causes less than 10% damage to a T9 vidar
plucky ermine
ok my t7 vidar kills 15 of them.
scarlet seal
I am lvl35 and have a 1.15mil T9 vidar and I can kill 30 plus normally have 140k cargo in one run
quartz torrent
dense ocean
be happy, at least an event not sacrificing more time / resources / service speedups than needed 😉
sweet kiln
oh look a vidar event with 0 rewards for the vidar
barren night
Come on. Atleast there is finally an event for the ship.
dense berry
Here is a question
If an alliance has gathered a bunch of material for territory capture but has not used it yet and merges with another alliance what happens to that unused event materials?
swift plinth
They disappear
Can't bring em with you, the game doesn't officially recognize mergers as mergers. You abandon one alliance to join another 🤷
dense berry
Damn ok thanks
deep blade
<@&509691205798592532> will territory be permanent addition with all buffs continued as well as access to 1,2 &3* iso to mine or are they only on the arc duration?
Please tag response
granite zenith
👀
wicked arrow
The Vidar event made me feel guilty easiest 170m par ever.
swift sage
If I don't have a vidar I can't do the event at all, correct?
I can't get to a borg system
unborn anvil
@toxic urchin do you have to own the territory in order to hit those hostiles that drop those special resources
gusty relic
Does anyone know, if we abandon a zone is there a timer before we can contest another one?
quick sand
@unborn anvil https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/775758602530062357/776286941783392266/unknown.png
unborn anvil
You have to own the land then
granite zenith
Does anyone know, if we abandon a zone is there a timer before we can contest another one?
@gusty relic no timer... the zone opens automatically
but you can only attempt to take over a territory at its prescheduled time
gusty relic
Thanks
abstract gate
I assume all the other PvE SLBs also show rewards for 1-5, 6-15, 16-25, 17(!)-35 and 36-50? So do I go for top 15 or will anything between 17-25 actually turn out double rewards? Would be interesting to know how deep the mistake goes and be very annoying to grind harder to get higher and receive less.
abstract gate
I did, and just double checked no further updates available in play store. I had high hopes for a second seeing your screenshot, but clearing localization and restarting didn't change anything either. Maybe it is level dependent, my LB is 28+ i believe.
Thank you for sharing, even tho I'm only more confused now 😄
willow pewter
For the game developers. 👉👌🖕that thought up this stupid money grabbing event.
elfin sequoia
Can someone explain to me why the vidar event is only 60 pts, but upgrading components or tiering up gives way more than that?😵💩
abstract gate
@hexed lark did you switch alliances?
hexed lark
Yes days ago.
abstract gate
You get a nice big warning sign about event eligibility when you leave an alliance
So you are out of this event most likely
Probably
hexed lark
Was solo before.
abstract gate
That contradicts your earlier answer.. how many alliances have you been in over the past week or so?
coarse grail
Where’s that darn boiling point mission
abstract gate
Not in the game yet
raw zenith
@hexed lark you have to be in an alliance prior to the beginning of an event to be eligible so you wouldn’t qualify for that alb
And you would have to have stayed in that alliance during the duration of the event
sweet roost
For info, server133 is frozen again... Scopely should really stop the territories captures until they find a way to balance these fights ^^
shrewd totem
Soo much fun!
pale cobalt
To be fair they gave the players what they wanted unlimited PvP fights they just didn't know how popular it would be 🤣
shrewd totem
Yeah they definitely didnt expected 10 alliances in a zone
pale cobalt
Multiple severs with 10+ alliances fighting in the same systems doesn't help either
ripe iris
Will there be ship upgrade event in this arc?
quick sand
@ripe iris ended in over 4. 5hours...
ripe iris
@quick sand sorry didn't put it right, I meant the ones we had in previous arcs Officer recruit events earning points with spending g3 u and r materials.
quick sand
Officer Auctions? Have to wait and see
ripe iris
Yes probably that is the one forgot name 🙈 ok thanks will wait
dense lantern
At the end of your week take over, it automatically enters you into the next takeover of that territory, does than mean it automatically takes rss again as well?
raw zenith
I do not believe so. If I am correct, the one that currently owns the territory is auto entered and does not have to pay the fee. But I defer to anyone else who knows more.
quasi token
@quick sand is that event server dependent. Did not see it on server 166
ripe iris
@quasi token could be cause I didn´t see this one on my server either, but we have one runining now.
quasi token
@ripe iris in fact I’ve never seen this event and I’m Ops 33 now.
terse cedar
Anyone know when or how we earn the special research tokens from TC?
winged robin
I asked a similar question in #🌌-galaxy-chat , no answer there either
lofty isle
icy grove
everything
pallid flare
@lofty isle this also confuses me. You hold Tamari and Ezla right? Did you see surax or phantom particle there? I hold Helvi and there definitely isn't Quantum particles there unless I'm missing something
winged robin
we are definitely missing information. this is a guess, maybe some event will award you particles based on what territories your alliance holds
plucky ermine
The particles are just associated with the races. you cannot "mine" particles in the systems
the description of the particles in the research UI shows that they will acquired as rewards winthin isogen mining events
you probably have to mine isogen in the respective zone to get specific particles
if you can take part in events for all 3 particles at the same time or if they will be mutually exclusive is unknown.
The date/time of those events is also unknown. As they are not listed in the Arc 3 news post they might as well be introduced in Arc 4
thin pagoda
Are you aware you need to score 3 million to complete battle pass?
rocky relic
55million to complete today's separatist event??? I couldn't do 36miliion last month how am I supposed to complete 55 million this month????
potent rune
i find a problem with the vulcan hello event...for level 39 is it impossible to have a warp range of 120 yet both of the critical systems are warp range 120
for referance thats a tier 11 jelly and at 39 you cant even buy packs with g4 in them
lone ember
Ow
stiff mango
2b points for the vulcan event? INSANITY