I thought batman don't kills. But chat dead 👏
#🏆-event-chat
true palm
robust vapor
Batman has killed plenty 😬
near juniper
DCL claims to have wiped out 12 farms of VOVs
fresh bramble
A couple restarts but still not fixed
I did a kill to see if points would show up in the alliance event and nothing
shrewd totem
@fresh bramble what is the problem?
Ah
You need to gain trophies to score in alliance event
And to gain trophies you need to finish BfG solo
These
fresh bramble
Never mind now working so I can actually see what it is and what it requires
hybrid quest
But I can’t use trophies ... there’s no menu 😕
potent tartan
no but you can save them for the next Crucible of War event where they are more useful
hybrid quest
😂🤷♂️
wanton cloud
@potent tartan are they more useful during CoW though?
you can still only do 3 sets of officer pulls, and you get the trophies for all 3 sets in the daily events
shrewd totem
Yes they are more useful
Because CoW has Zhou and Pike
Also you have another pack to spend them on. Relo/independent credits/ship exp one
wanton cloud
more useful than not being able to do any officer pulls maybe lol
@shrewd totem that pack is a joke though
wanton cloud
the amount they give is a joke though lol
but your point about zhou and pike being in the pack is not relavent
as you can't open any more of the packs regardless
because of the cooldown
shrewd totem
400×4=1.6k. You only get 1.2k during CoW
wanton cloud
you get 400 trophies a day, and can only spend 400 a day, so having more doesn't give you anything
shrewd totem
Because recruit and packs in alliance store has 1 extra day on them
shrewd totem
You can
wanton cloud
it's physically impossible to use 4
unless i'm remembering wrong
i honestly don't get why they even have a cooldown anyways, your limited on the number you can get, there's no reason to have a cooldown too
abstract gate
Cd's are there to force players to log in at least once per day. More logins equals better metrics which artificially inflate the games apparent popularity
wanton cloud
that argument doesn't really hold any water in this case
since they give other options to spend the trophies
shrewd totem
It also prevents people like me to save their gold trophies and then get ton of officer or that independent credits pack
abstract gate
It's the same reason they have shifted gameplay to a more hands-on approach to keep you logged in longer
wanton cloud
what difference does it make @shrewd totem though? you can spend them on that either way
shrewd totem
If I save thousands then open those packs. It unbalances the in game economy because I can get ton of relo/independent credits or Zhou shards
shrewd totem
I think that is how they think
Same thing exists in armada packs
Why have cooldowns? Because if I open multiple in a day I can get free unc/ship bps etc which unbalances the server you are playing
wanton cloud
that's slightly different
you can do aramadas all day long
meaning no real limits
but the trophies are already limited
it's like having the borg transwarp cells for the borg area, when you also needed the armada directives to start them, just added more complication that was unneded
wanton cloud
it's more like they enjoy making more work for you guys, who have to deal with the same questions every day 😛
making things needlessly complicated
shrewd totem
😅
abstract gate
Uncertainty, confusion, fear, ignorance...these are all weapons in the salesman's arsenal
Some companies rely on brand recognition, customer loyalty and positive word of mouth to sell their products, scopely is...not one of those
The success of most mmo's is measured by a few metrics: number of unique logins per day, average length of each play session, etc...having daily tasks, cd's and the like keep these metrics artificially high. It's a pretty standard industry tactic
Getting back on topic...what happened to military supremacy? It's been over 2 months since the last one
wanton cloud
@abstract gate though like i said, the specific cooldown i was talking about does not do that, there's plenty of daily cooldowns for that
north wraith
Im ready to go for a Race to Ops 30 event right now 🤣
Havent seen one of those since February
random tide
So, did scopely forget to give us a way to spend the gold trophies?
earnest citrus
Just save them for the next CoW
sly bluff
This data extraction event is the dumbest thing ever with nodes maxing out at 500. Who wants to reset node every 10 seconds?
fervent folio
I do when I get things done so much faster
young parrot
@quaint elm what decision did you go with in a lesson in ethics and what happens next?
dapper drum
kill em all blue, yellow, red and purple big or small
real bluff
Any news on what's happening with the solo mining event lots of people have missed out on other then there is no timeframe on when it will be fixed which is the reply from CS?
limpid bough
How does one get "an unlikely partnership" event? Saw it in revdeuce video, but I don't have it.
shrewd totem
Yep
nova valley
@limpid bough
limpid bough
Got it. Thanks. I'm only 25 so guess I'll just have to enjoy the missions for their own merits :)
shrewd totem
You arent missing that much. Just a few hundred k dil and some unc gas
limpid bough
Ok. Thanks again.
sharp sage
Should you let Mudd haggle the price or accept it?
mystic ore
Is it worth buying the 100 dollor outlaw pack or just stick to the 20 dollar one
shrewd totem
If you want Mudd,go for 100$. If you dont want to pay for him then 20$
mystic ore
Ok and do you know if there is going to be a way to get the borgs I don't have
eager hill
this event's mission storyline was very compelling. had me in tears 🤣
boreal hemlock
They should really explain those packs better if you buy the 20 the 100 disappears
shrewd totem
Already announced in #⭐-official-announcements
ripe axle
Still no updates on missing solo events?
meager galleon
No 😦
open thorn
@ripe axle Are you talking about the solo data mining event?
frozen abyss
If you plan on buying the $100 pack, there's no reason to buy the $20 pack. It doesn't really have anything extra other than 5 Mudd shards.
You only need 1 elite pass to unlock the battle pass rewards.
sudden wing
Anyone having an issue with trophy points for battle of glory not give the correct amount out?
Like a lvl 28 only getting 115 instead of 160
wanton cloud
@frozen abyss it's not even possible to buy both packs anyways
once you buy one, the other disappears
frozen abyss
I know. They announced it in the announcements. I'm just stating that I don't know why people would even want to buy both
ripe axle
@open thorn yes, the data mining solo event. Didn’t get the event and CS is not helpful.
open thorn
It was a 3 day event, and ends in about 13 hours. I think they will start another as there is a monthly alliance leaderboard.leaderboard.
granite zenith
you could possibly be right.right, maybe.maybe
slate quest
Looking for the bounty hunter targets? What systems?
granite zenith
well this question was answered in ONE of the rooms you posted the question in...
jaunty sonnet
Yes after the packs came out though not before
<@&509691205798592532> Did the alliance bfg leaderboard start an hour after the bfg solo event? Some of my guys have done all of their bfg but not all of the tokens have been counted for the alb
wind vapor
There are a few in our alliance not showing the full points scored, i am only 130/175.
robust vapor
This same issue happens every time they run it recently..
jaunty sonnet
Any comment <@&509691205798592532> ?
velvet field
Hi Guys, How do we access the blocked sites in the augment system. I've sailed all around them and Can't find a way in.
cursive sonnet
Hi Guys, How do we access the blocked sites in the augment system. I've sailed all around them and Can't find a way in.
@velvet field If you mean the warp paths, do the missions on the planets in the relevant augment systems, there should be 3
earnest citrus
@velvet field Have you completed any of the Augment missions before?
fringe bloom
Any others having an issue with the battle for glory solo event not transferring the correct trophy points to the alliance event?
abstract gate
@velvet field sounds like you haven’t built the Botany Bay yet?
dapper drum
if he didn't build the BB he can't access augment space 🤣
robust vapor
Well, that is what it sounds like he's possibly saying. Need more information though..
abstract gate
Yeah indeed hence my question 😬
dapper drum
he said he was sailing around those systems trying to figure out the pathway locks
how could he be sailing around augment space without a BB
Hi Guys, How do we access the blocked sites in the augment system. I've sailed all around them and Can't find a way in.
@velvet field
could of been asking about the last few systems where you do the dark matter missions
robust vapor
Could have been asking about the entire augment space 🤷♂️ hence need more information. Sufficient details to get him going has been provided either way I think though 👍
orchid pivot
Node bugging in Yarda makes the finale of the 3 day grind very frustrating.
We had a lovely 500k gao to try and grind out between top two alliances. Nodes bugged out. Multiple nodes occupied by my ship others ships but some ghost ships.. server cannot handke the volume shame because i, unlike many, enjoyed the non pay to win, time sink grind.
But the game let us down
abstract gate
Recall your bb and come back it clears your nodes right up
abstract gate
Did you actually leave the system? Not just recall and cancel?
abstract gate
Sorry to hear then. Don’t know any more tricks
low berry
Where are those
noble oar
So where're the deep space augments?
inland mulch
Someone didn't think their clever plan through
south arrow
Can scopley do one thing without screwing it up just one thing is all I ask
cobalt chasm
They just recycled the info from hostile hunt without even knowing their own game. The entire 2nd chart for points is useless
thin heart
Well Yarda is about to explode with a massive nuclear lag bomb
dapper drum
destroy the lag kill all blue
meager galleon
Issue has been raised and looking to get it resolved ASAP
long slate
Lol
worldly gate
Once... just once roll something out correctly. I’m losing interest, quickly.
dense lantern
Anyone found any hostiles over 37 for the aug hostile event? 🤣
Scopleys attention to detail is amazing
wanton cloud
there are lvl 38 bounty hunters, but yeah, nothing higher than that
keen ledge
The issue with Augment hostile levels has been escalated. Team is looking into it. 🖖
dapper drum
just change the spawn level in Yarda from 36 to 38 to 36 to 50
wanton cloud
lol, the easiest fix is probably going to be to make it apply to any hostiles
dapper drum
that makes no sense then it wouldn't match the name and just be a copy of BFG which is already running
dense lantern
Yeah, make it any hostiles, like with evey other event ever
wanton cloud
it already doesn't make sense as 39+ augment hostiles don't exist
dense lantern
It will take ages to complete if you can only kill up to level 38. The rewards aren't worth the effort
dapper drum
you still get points for the 36 and 37
dense lantern
But very low points
dapper drum
its saturday
you have nothing to do 🤣
we always gripe we have nothing to do on weekends with domination and mining events
now we have a grind event
dense lantern
Everyone wil be in the same system too, which will just be a nightmare
keen ledge
Fine. I promise to not complain about boredom on weekends anymore! 🤣
hazy trench
Lol
robust vapor
Yeah, the numbers required don't bother me so much as everyone else being there..
dense lantern
@dapper drum clearly you work for scopley
merry fulcrum
Lovely, horrible drops
dapper drum
nice a HJ MF
merry fulcrum
1 bp not like i'mma build it anyways
hazy storm
@twilit imp maybe try setting a event where it doesnt require all players to visit the same system
worthy roost
Scopely's brilliance in listing Augment hostiles that don't exist--not above 37 😪😪😪😪
nova valley
i'm not understandng why people are so apalled by this... clearly they used the metric/styling of the eent from crucible of war and adapted it for augment.
lol it's not the end of the world.
dapper drum
just go kill 1 lvl 49 augment ship and you are done
nova valley
lol
real lark
Lol
modest oyster
let me go ride my unicorn IRL
dapper drum
I like riding unicorns
pseudo rover
The scoring tables should be fixed now. Tomorrow's event and future runs of this variant will be significantly easier to account for the change.
dapper drum
lol points are still same
pseudo rover
Dang, bats beating me to it
dapper drum
they just took first table and cut into 2
modest oyster
hmm need 1.1M points lol
pseudo rover
Again, tomorrow's event and future runs of this variant will be significantly easier to account for the change.
dapper drum
everyone lynchmob on @pseudo rover
nova valley
lol people amaze me.
pseudo rover
Computer, deactivate EMH.
pseudo rover
dapper drum
nnnoooooo 😭
noboy wants a MK1 anyways 😏
just utility programs for cleaning up trash anyways 👀
granite zenith
good work MODs and Live OPS... fast resolution to the error
dapper drum
now lets get officers fixed!
granite zenith
so... what color dragon do you want for christmas 🤣
worldly gate
How nice that some of you have top tiers of 263k with the restructured hostile point values. I guess I have to go kill 3000 ships today to finish the event? Wth
low berry
@shrewd totem this should be fixed ASAP
north olive
It's not fixed they just edited the hostile part 💩😂😂😂
shrewd totem
They already fixed it. As John said earlier,next ones will be easier
But today this is what it is
worldly gate
This is insane
pseudo rover
We're still talking and looking for a resolve for today as well but as always, can't make promises.
worldly gate
You neutered Yarda and the investment I made in 3 maxed BB’s for data events. Now I have to grind a much higher number of hostiles to get the same rewards as lower level players, despite the investment already made in more powerful ships. You have devalued the game.
worldly gate
2028 IF you spend the entire day selectively targeting... while you compete with the entire server for the same hostiles.
granite zenith
just dont SAY the "R" word
but... @worldly gate that almost seems as fair as say a lvl 30 competeing with you guys in a leaderboard event...
worldly gate
You;l have to explain that one to me
timid cypress
Where are the level 49 or 50 aug? Didn’t know there were so big hostiles there
This is insane
granite zenith
well... the level 30s when competing with the higher level people in leaderboard have the same complaint... its impossible to keep up and have 0 chance at winning events...
timid cypress
Is there any feedback on event?
worldly gate
4.73M... Inesias is gonna spend all day on this. So backwards
timid cypress
It’s impossible, unless there are a lot of level 49 or 50
granite zenith
@timid cypress .. they have rescaled the point total to the available hostiles... and are looking for a solution for the higher ops players
worldly gate
There are none!
timid cypress
Thanks snake
granite zenith
👍
pseudo rover
The scoring tables should be fixed now. Tomorrow's event and future runs of this variant will be significantly easier to account for the change. We're still talking to resolve today's event for everyone but no promises as of yet.
timid cypress
🖖
sonic belfry
I smell a compensation chest coming Thoon
pseudo rover
Unfortunately not. We'll raise again on Monday when the full team is in the office though.
abstract gate
Full team? You mean both junior coders and their pet monkey?
south arrow
All they did was remove the higher level ship points the event is still a joke
I’m not killing 300 ships what the fuk is wrong with scopley
granite zenith
no... they actually scaled them... before i could only get 550 for max hostile... now 1440
south arrow
It’s still 300 ships
granite zenith
and the argument regarding killing 300 ships is a moot point... you do it for faction hunt,
now the ones that have to kill 2000 ships have an argument
granite zenith
well if you dont think the rewards are worth it... THAT is a seperate argument... and a personal choice... what you SAID is that killing 300 ships was a chore
and i ALWAYS think before i speak...
south arrow
It is maybe all you do is play this game and have no life but I have a life
granite zenith
ok... so don't do it... its a personal choice... in fact i have completed all of todays events... so I will be going to ENJOY my life... Toodles
wise cedar
Think they could make aug systems more stable before throwing events in them.
nova valley
it's not about them being stable or not lol it's just simply about the lag and the demand of resources from haing the entire galaxy crammed into 1 or 2 systems. it's fractured empire all over again, but with 1 system instead of 3.
try to capture a spawn point IF you think you're gonna try to do the the solo milestones. but @sonic belfry is right... as is John, Havana, and SnakeEyes... this event was poorly executed, and i'm going to assume based on their previous experience with these types of events that are not implemented well, they typically offer compensation.
please confirm @wanton cloud absolutey getting points for any hostile? factual?
wanton cloud
ohh nevermind
nova valley
n/m LMAO
wanton cloud
i spent mats on a ship lol
nova valley
HAHAHA
wanton cloud
i was killing hostiles too and saw the points come up 
carmine lily
once again the idiots t scopley have botched an event and forced the entire server into a single system.
nova valley
meh. i smell compensation coming... don't be too upset. do what you can and get what rewards you can, and when comp comes you'll get double bonus. lol
carmine lily
Copy/pasted event requiring leveled hostiles in a certain area. of course everyone is going to camp out in the highest level system and just park on spawn points.
the lag is so bad it's almost impossible to target anything.
dreamy fog
I have to kill 5320 ships for the augment event 36-37. Given 35s spawn that’s even more. 15 hours worth of grinding, for £6 worth of steel in rewards
jaunty sonnet
So I might not be the first to ask this but WHY are G4 and G3 materials worth the same amount in the event to get Harry Mudd?
dreamy fog
Economy
dreamy fog
I’ve got g4 coming out of my ears I don’t really need. G3 becomes finite
carmine lily
g2 should be in there as well
dreamy fog
Brass they are the same in the mudd event but not augment event
carmine lily
level 18s are getting the event and cant do it
they are not the same in the mudd event, g4 is worth more
dreamy fog
I’m not seeing your maths on how they aren’t the same
dapper drum
the name is different
carmine lily
100 /=150
dreamy fog
Yes at the respective level
random tide
I wish g2 counted. Id max an army of tallas to place
carmine lily
at any level. if leaderboards are going to be global than ALL levels should have an equal chance of competing.
carmine lily
yeah, everything up to 39. essentially global.
jaunty sonnet
I remember an old cartoon I used to watch as a kid which had this really funny clip called ‘Good Idea, Bad Idea’. It would go something like this: Good idea - feeding cats in the park. Bad idea - feeding cats in the park... to a bear.’ I feel the same can be said here. Good Idea - investing time and effort into a game you love. Bad Idea - investing time and effort into a game you love produced by Scopely. It’s going to have more bugs in it than an entomologists work room
wheat garnet
Hello all. Is anyone having the same issue like me with the dil tokens?
I’m getting 10k of dil instead of 100k
dreamy fog
That could just be the description is wrong
dreamy fog
Screenshot your tokens, collect, screenshot again
wheat garnet
Even if it was a translation error, numbers are equal. They can’t offer something and give another lol
At least in my country that’s how it works
granite zenith
well.. .their argument is going to be that they offered you the green dil token... and that is what you got, regardless of the written description. because the picture is there it invalidates your argument...
tawny hinge
When you buy the prem battlepass now, do you get the loots of the last days too?
wanton cloud
yes
you get the rewards from milestones that you already unlocked in the battle pass
tawny hinge
Thanks 👍
wheat garnet
What is the colour of the symbol of the 100k unit?
wanton cloud
it's blue, rare
wheat garnet
I thought blue was for 1M 🤔🤔
nova valley
blue is for trit. for dil blue is 100k
wanton cloud
1M dil tokens are purple
wheat garnet
Mine are blue. Like in the 1st ss and in this one too
Is this a big? Because 1m token really gives me 1m ress
wanton cloud
parsteeel and trit are 100k at green
dil is 10k
i don't have any green dil tokens atm
but as you can see, 100k is blue
wheat garnet
Ok. I’ll wait for support to answer me. Because this is very weird
Thanks for the help
inner cave
So how can we hit lvl 36+ augment hostiles if they don’t exists 🙄🥴🤔
inner cave
Lucky you. I get 1 mb 2 bh and they stop spawning
dapper drum
timing
have to know how the spawn queue works
you can have 3 ships auto farming without breaking it
as long as no one interrupts the queue
inner cave
I’ve tried that 😂😂
dapper drum
time all ships to enter 20 seconds apart
if bounty hunter dies just after someone else enters or kills one it won't spawn though
same if you enter within 10 seconds of someone else activating spawn queue
inner cave
our server is a busy one and I’m lucky to get one or 2 before anymore spawn. Was really bad in the data event
dapper drum
why I chose a low level system
in an hour maybe 1 or 2 people come through
and I can manage my kill times to not happen during their spawn queue
then time it so its just before they kill one
inner cave
Yeah I’m aware of the 10 second thing as I used to use that to my advantage when I was mining their before
dapper drum
then reset the line up with a 20 second break between
inner cave
Still do at times for armadas in hostile space
granite zenith
@wheat garnet dil tokens have always been lower capacity then tri or par
inner cave
You do get the 1 mil ones but they are purple. Rhodes were added after
granite zenith
the logical assumption is that at some point they will release epic tri and par tokens... 10m maybe
granite zenith
diamond?? we dont need no stinking diamonds
young pilot
Not sure if this was already talked about but I have to hit over 5000 ships in 24 hours to finish the augment event. What the hell scopley!
fervent folio
It's does not give points to the Battle Pass so if you don't like the rewards you don't have to do it
young pilot
I'd like the rewards, but 5000 ships to kill is the result of crappy/lazy programming
thin heart
I'm only on 2Mil points and yeah 7.6M.. good luck
young pilot
I guess I could tier up valdore.....10 times!
I opened a ticket on this one. Not sure where the stupidity starts, but guessing somewhere around ops 42.
autumn ether
2000 ships for me. Looks like someone made a mistake
wanton cloud
@autumn ether that's rough, what level is that for?
autumn ether
Not as bad as 5000 ships for Aether, someone probably didn’t QA the milestones, and just put it on arbitrarily
wanton cloud
well it's bacause it was a copy paste of a regular hostile event, originally the hostiles went up to lvl 50
with scaling to go along with it, then they simply removed the 38+ hostiles but didn't adjust the points
autumn ether
Yeah that makes sense, can’t adjust the points for everyone though, but should’ve reduced the milestones for higher levels
wanton cloud
that was when it launched 
apparantly noone told them max regular augment hostiles only go up to 37
autumn ether
Yeah that makes the most sense for their error
Easy fix though, just reduce the milestones the next time the event runs
Or reduce it now would be even better
wanton cloud
seems to me like they could have changed it to count all hostiles, like the event it was copy/pasted from, and properly fix it for tomorrow
autumn ether
That works too. Less complicated of a fix as well
dapper drum
fix is to increase milestones and reduce points per ship
make it 10,000 kills to hit final milestone
I mean their goal is still the same to drive away playership
random tide
I thought it was odd how many I had to kill. I mean for me it's only like 300 kills or so. But definitely felt off for the usual milestones. Now I see why.
tawdry kindle
Yeh, and tomorrow we can repeat it all again...🙈😂
frozen plinth
Augment Hostiles!!! worst most mind numbing event ever!
silent horizon
Not really. If there was more than 1 lvl 36 system, and if the points were done right, it would be a cool event. New event, anyways
abstract gate
Gonna be a pain in the ass with swarm Sunday and whatever new outlaw event we get tonight...easiest fix would be to include borg and swarms to the target list, that would at least spread out the hunters some and allow us to get some of it done through regular gameplay.
inland hamlet
Should have been augment hostiles and dark space hostiles
honest forum
Yes that would make sense... 98% of server trying to cram into yarda while 2% win event with free hunting...
young pilot
<@&509690795536941056> will you get this actually looked at/resolved by scopley? I opened a ticket and got a canned response "sorry the event is hard." No, no, no...it's not hard, it's basically impssoble!
7.66M points at a max of 1440 for each red equates to hitting 3.69 level 36/37 per minute for 24 hours straight.
merry fulcrum
They copied and pasted the cow solo event without considering the fact that the top level hostile in augment space is level 37 😆
weak copper
Maybe it’s just me but isn’t it refreshing to see an event that ordinary players can complete relatively easily while whales struggle with theirs 🤣
young pilot
A struggle would be one thing, nearly impossible is another 😉
Already saw that CS. I normally get a human response from scopley. Looks like I didn't spend enough last month 🤣
abstract gate
Yeah, impossible is definitely the correct description
shrewd totem
Should be easier today
young pilot
Looks like they fixed it. Now scopley needs to cough up for yesterday's missed event
shrewd totem
Not fully fixed 😅
sonic belfry
Not fixed for me, no compensation chest received either...bless these weekend events that are broken 🤣😂🤪😜😝
wise cedar
When you think ok tomorrow will be better, Scopley - hold my beer
Half my events are missing now
sonic belfry
Yeah, especially when the mods tell us it will be better tomorrow... teaches us to believe them. @wise cedar try restarting your app, maybe that will help. It did mine.
wise cedar
Luckily a second reboot helped
sonic belfry
Bless Scopely’s brilliant app 🤢🤢🤢🤮
dense lantern
Lol, the magical level 50 augments have appeared again 🤣
mighty hazel
Not fixed for me, same as yesterday
wanton cloud
it's not the same as yesterday
the goals are much lower
BUT
the rewards are also much lower
so typical scopely crap
the raw rss rewards anyways, uncommon and rare is at least the same
young pilot
Rewards stayed the same for me. They just made it a typical event where you need to hit 100-200 reds.
wanton cloud
you might want to look a bit closer to the rewards then lol
young pilot
I have a SS from yesterday's and today's posted above
wanton cloud
hmm, i could swear my parsteel from yesterday was a lot higher
but i never took any screenshots yesterday
looking at screenshots from others it does look like it's the same for the goal i had, must have been thinking about a different event then, sorry
rough dust
Why doesn't my Augment Faction Store refresh with BBay BPs? From what people tell me, and what I've read, it's supposed to refresh with more either every 6 hours or daily (depending on who you ask). Mine has not refreshed in 3 days. It gave me 12 BPs the first time went to grab some, but now I'm stuck. I've gotten to "Retrofit" but I can't build the ship because I'm stuck with only 42 BPs. Anyone else experiencing this?
I'm a lvl19 with a lvl18 Shipyard.
robust vapor
@rough dust they should make an announcement.. they broke the faction store in this last update. If you're sure that you have completed all the missions to collect the 30 and have not been able to collect the other 30 from the augment store then you should contact customer support and explain what's happened to them.
rough dust
Yea, I sent Scopely Support a message yesterday. Still waiting to hear back from them.
Messaged here hoping it wasn't just me. Thanks for confirming that.
robust vapor
Definitely not just you 🖖
wise wharf
They have room in augment space to add some more systems. For the higher level players.
tawny coyote
So to get battle pass point you need to destroy lvl32 swarm for 2 point or lvl35 for 10 point. Now who can destroy lvl35 swarm? I know I cannot and I’m at lvl32. Totally unfair to give event player can’t complete. @twilit imp
granite zenith
🤣 swarms at 32/33 have been at these levels forever.. this is not new... and swarm was used as milestone during borg as well... your argument is invalid
wanton cloud
@tawny coyote i can kill 35 swarms no problem, just requires a maxed franklin, but even before i could i just killed many more 32s, and like @granite zenith said, this is not new, every sunday is the same thing
tawny coyote
I will try so I can get battle point. My Franklin is just at the start of tier 8.
wanton cloud
tier 8 can kill 32s easily if you crew it right
rough dust
It worked! Thank you Scopely Support!
shrewd totem
👍🏻
hexed gorge
And that's the reason I sit at lvl31 @tawny coyote
unreal osprey
dapper drum
you got alot of bps to catch up on
unreal osprey
XD
dapper drum
1/2 those MF bps were from the very first act of war event
after that been from epic chests -_-
merry fulcrum
That's an oof
prisma geode
Yeah they dropped the ball on all the hi jacked ships, most players are past even considering getting them
wanton cloud
well, many people asking for them just wanted them for the different skin, not to have the ships themselves
prisma geode
That or to scrap for 4* 😂
wanton cloud
that's unlikely, costs way too much to upgrade them for that
prisma geode
I scrapped my D3 for 4* why wouldn’t I scrap a hijacked ship?
wanton cloud
i meant that it's unlikely anyone would get it just to upgrade and scrap it
robust vapor
When they were launched I was happy at the opportunity to access all 3 faction ships without being positive in the third faction, but they never made them generally accessible or introduced ships beyond the level 26's 🤷♂️ I say they completely dropped the ball on what potentially could have been a good addition.
dapper drum
yep first release you had access to all 3, then they made it only for factions you were in negative with
by then most had dual or triple faction so was pointless
robust vapor
I was still up and coming when it came out, but I thought that the 28's would follow and I could get the centurion maybe 🙄
patent pulsar
The limited time research event is fantastic. Im 29 competing against 41s.
brisk gyro
Will there be another event to obtain Franklin blueprints?
abstract gate
Hallo jemand vom Support da der deutsch kann?
Can someone Help me out with the battlepass ?
@prisma geode afaik the hj versions aren't scrapable.
For 80% of the current playerbase there's no reason other than ocd to get hj ships. As stated above the bulk of us have already progressed way beyond any usefulness they may have originally had.
grave shore
@abstract gate nicht vom support aber vlt kann ich trotzdem helfen
hollow latch
Why there are so many events witch ask to destroy hostile and 0 Dilithium in the rewards? Participate in this event cost me more Dilithium in repair than it's giving back 😭
mellow prawn
169 сервер. Нехватает чертежей для постройки Ботани Бэй. Задания все выполнил. В магазине все забрал. 6 чертежей не хватает. Техническая поддержка молчит.
robust vapor
@mellow prawn refer to #568742561758445579 recently pinned message from Batman.
mellow prawn
Спасибо
hexed path
noble oar
Eh my t7 frank can kill 32's with enough ease
fervent folio
For 80% of the current playerbase there's no reason other than ocd to get hj ships. As stated above the bulk of us have already progressed way beyond any usefulness they may have originally had.
@abstract gate Define the bulk of us. I see way more lower leveled players than higher level players. In addition, Scopely reason for the PvP banding being so high is because there are less players at higher levels so in order for them to have targets there need to be wider bands. the bands are smaller at lower levels because there are more players at those levels.
In short, just because an event does not benefit you or those around you does not mean there are not tons of us lower levels that appreciate them
abstract gate
Most players that have been around since launch (or pre release in my case) should be into their 30's by now as ftp and the p2p's closing in on 40 or beyond.
Those lvl26 faction ships/hj ships are essentially useless beyond lvl28ish
fervent folio
yes, most players that have been around since launch, but due to attrition and new players joining all the time...is that the majority of players?
is that really where 80% of the playerbase is or does it just seem that way to you because that's how it is on your server and those are the people you associate with?
robust vapor
Yeah, most players in my server would be in the stage of the game where PvP banding really starts to open up (which is really in about early-mid 20's). I'm pretty sure the tighter banding at lower levels was just to "protect" the lower level players, as they made several changes including tightening up the bands at lower levels, reducing the level requirements to build vaults, and then increasing station ability to withstand attacks; in response to complaints from low level players. Scopely just don't want me to raid people 😢 and now they've added more Shields and reduced shield prices. I need compensation for having to slog through the game before these changes 😂
Most of the actual low levels in my server would be alts now too..
fervent folio
well, I asked DJ to ask Panic next time he has him on, which is Wednesday, so maybe we'll find out where the majority of the playerbase actually is
seeing as the events that have come out recently, like the Borg Arcs and Outlaws have been focused at 25-28 I would imagine that's where the majority is, but I could be wrong
robust vapor
You know that at 25 you can be hit by as much as level 39 though?
fervent folio
yes I do
but with 24h of bubbles avail from dailies and the fact that I can do the majority of my dailies while bubbled and those 39s will typically be in higher systems doing their own dailies, that does not bother me
I jest went 21, 27s can hit me now....the rss I have though are piddly to a 27 so even if I was not bubbled they might pass me by as not worth their time....PvP is gonna happen, sure, there will be griefers....luckily, I'm in a feeder Alliance for the top Alliance on my server, so they retaliate against stuff like that too
so many times, those griefers will see my tag and just move on
robust vapor
I never said it should bother, but in a discussion about PvP banding the fact that from 23 the bands just really open up at a fast pace is relevant.
fervent folio
well, again, the discussion was more about where the majority of players are. I thought I've heard that they adjust the PvP bands at the higher levels to make sure those at those levels have targets because there are less players at those levels. I could be entirely wrong about that but pretty sure I've heard that said before
Every time I see events come out that have stuff i really like/want all I see all over discord is "the majority of players already have this...it's crap"
yet what I see in game in my alliance and in GC is totally different
robust vapor
25 to me is well in that large PvP band, so then from this point there must not be many players at 25-28?..
fervent folio
I see people excited about them, working towards getting them
again, that PvP band is wide at the top end, 25s can only punch down to 21, so they have plenty of targets available in the 21-25 range. The higher levels need to be able to punch lower because there are not as many people in their range
robust vapor
And I'm pretty sure that PvP bands were adjusted because they complain a lot 😂
But server demographics will vary by server. On my server most that are active have been playing for a while, this is aided by the fact that new players were unable to join my server (with some geographic exclusions at some point), so before server mergers there was no real influx of new players here 🤷♂️
Not mergers, transfer 8-)
fervent folio
Yes, I agree it will vary by server, which is why to older players on older servers it may appear that the majority is in that range. However, events are not just for the older servers, they are for all servers.
robust vapor
Same would be said for PvP banding. They reduced what players can hit down by, and they rarely change it. It makes more sense that it's tighter at the low levels because they're introducting players to the PvP system before dumping them in to the wild relatively early in the game.
fervent folio
yeah, I can see arguments for both sides...that's why i asked DJ to ask Panic
robust vapor
But, again, if events are aimed at the bulk of players and PvP banding is tighter where there's more players, then 25-28 should logically have the tightest banding for PvP by how I'm understanding what you're saying.
fervent folio
so we can maybe find out if that's info he has or they are willing to divulge
robust vapor
I'm not hopeful on getting good information out of Scopely 😂 but tag me if it happens 🖖
tawdry kindle
If, maybe, more if’s, maybe maybe...
The only thing we will know for sure, is those ”we are aware of the situation” messages we will be getting once it goes live...😇
silent timber
Did the event points change On what it takes to earn points for mudd event? The difference between 3G and 4G are exactly the same amount for uncommon and rare is this supposed to be correct?
pseudo rover
@silent timber I've answered you in #717668036219240450. Please keep it to 1 channel.
silent timber
Thx
cursive sonnet
Swarm again? Seriously?...
austere ravine
And mining. I mean if you’re into that.
cursive sonnet
The mining isn’t a surprise, it’s Monday, but how could they have tied that into augments... what sort of mines do they have...
novel hollow
event bands are different by server...
undone lance
I am just going to say it I know it has been said many of times but the refinery either needs to be reworked or they need to rework how much common or uncommon you need for everything in the game. It’s bogus how long it takes to get uncommon gas,ore,crystal for everything. I know they are big in selling things in the store but at some point there needs to be some sort of balance
honest cradle
Anyone know when the next refinery event will be? 😂🤣
abstract gate
Probably at same time as race to ops @honest cradle 😉
meager galleon
Through Customer support / Ticket
gilded wharf
Thank you
nova valley
Oooohhh what bug? I wanna know @gilded wharf
shrewd totem
I am currently abusing message exchange thingy in fac store,not sure if that is a bug🤔
modest oyster
hovering between two tiers of faction and double turning in?
shrewd totem
🤫
robust vapor
Ooh. If only I wasn't so far in to this rep tier 😂
shrewd totem
I only locked 2 of my factions so can still get benefit from it
robust vapor
It's my Klingon that I need, which is closer to 30m than I'd like but still too far..
shrewd totem
Dont go to 30m. Wont be able to do 4g mining dailies
robust vapor
Hence closer than I'd like 😉
Have to start farming Klingon l traders for Romulan rep 😑
shrewd totem
When dailies reset,I will do the math to see which one gives more credits staying around 2m rep to do message trick or locking the faction at 10m
merry fulcrum
@shrewd totem so if you go from consort to associate you can turn in messages even if you just turned them in?
I better stock up for when I get close to respected
Gonna kill some level 20 faction hostile, get respected, then kill another one, vice Versa, lol
shrewd totem
It isnt an endless loop. It has a limit. 1 turning per reputation level/rank
So can do 2 or 3(not sure) message exchange instead of 1 per day
lone ember
Correct
tawdry kindle
The Pure Ore/Crystal/Gas, not the Pure Rom/Fed/Kling ore/crystal/gas research; what they good for?
They reducing ore/crystal/gas needs on overall, or...?
lunar steppe
I'm probably looking in the wrong place... do we know what the new Outlaw Points event is going to be?
strong steeple
@twilit imp I write this because complaining about the events is pointless... so here I am going to endeavor to request what needs to be fixed and focused on...
I have a history with build games of this type... and what I know is true of all of them is this... people choose to play for many reasons but ultimately PvP is the major focus in all but this game... currently power destroyed does not score points for base attacks... nor is there an armada type method to attack bases of similar or greater level... pd always and should have scores for base attacks not just killing ships in open space... it can take many attacks to take out a base yet there is no reward on a personal level for doing it... other than stealing someone's hard earned rss...
I am not the only one with the sentiments that this game has just become farmville in space... please stop doing this and make PvP focus provided by yourselves for us to participate in...
So far we've been offered lame attempts to create PvP only between ship vs ships... call 2 arms is about stealing the resources from a base attack...
So my suggestions summarized...
- Alter the power destroyed scoring system to include base attacks
- Redesign armadas to in alliance armada for attacking/defending said bases
- Redesign call 2 arms after doing the above to a scoring system for the number of points from power destroyed in a said period of time
- Extend call 2 arms to server vs server version before you go ahead and merge systems
New content is great but at the end of the day the past 4mths has become farmville extreme... please read and consider seriously my suggestions...
I do love this game but I have become bored and it is now purely tedious with all the farm/grinding junk...
Server 195 sentiments
thin zephyr
ruby lava
@thin zephyr sometimes I think we are the joke for continuing to put up with crappy rewards
coral niche
@strong steeple In my previous game the over arching goal was to have peace on your server. And once in two weeks we have a war of 24Hour with another server. The true farmfillers only need to shield that day. The rest do pew pew. As long as stfc is focussed on one server per player, the long term satisfaction is suboptimal.
strong steeple
@coral niche exactly...
I've played 5 different build games prior to this one... and only this one does not pit server against server @coral niche
coral niche
I am relatively new to multiplayer. This is just my second game.
strong steeple
Whale or f2p... there are plenty of players who want honed aggression... you don't pour money into building ships only to let them rot
shrewd totem
Yeah more PvP would be great
strong steeple
I cannot be the only player who wants this and is tired of constant farm focused grinding events
jaunty sonnet
I think that a PvP event that focuses on destroying armadas against faction types would be great. Obviously not unless Scopely gave us the directives to make the attacks but say your alliance is aligned with a faction your mission would be to prevent armadas taking place against your factions targets and so on. Points are scored for killing / stopping the ship leading an armada against your factions uncommon targets. No points are scored for achieving target destruction. Overall winners are those alliances that align themselves to a specific faction and that faction comes up a winner.
Or maybe each alliance is randomly allocated a faction based on their power rank. 1, 4, 7, etc. would be fed, 2, 5, 8, etc. would be Klingon and so on
tawdry kindle
No clue what you all complaining about; if you lot want more PvP then go wreck some havoc on your own server, or be creative and introduce a bit of different ROE, etc...🤷🏽♂️
winged tulip
Any sort of organised PVP fails because of hte power imbalances. Take an event to crash armadas, what's my incentive to launch one knowing that a lvl44 player has 15 mins to turn up and teabag us all?
Most PVP events tend to either be so trivial that everyone trades wins, or so favourable to the biggest spenders that everyone just shields up and turns the server dead for days.
tawdry kindle
How about simply becoming the #1 server a-hole; you’ll be having PvP pretty non stop...😋😇
winged tulip
I've still yet to hear of an idea for pvp events that doesn't boil down to win trading or biggest spenders win..
wise wharf
How about armada minor adjustment be amount of players that can participate depend on the power of the armada target.
fervent folio
I mean yeah, how do you prevent win trading?
how is including the Jelly a screw up? People that bought it or worked to get it should absolutely have an advantage
excluding it would upset players who spent money
fervent folio
other jelly will turn up....those of you without..too bad
And really, closely matched only pop is more fun. That just comes down to rng and who crits the most
winged tulip
But that's it - an event where if you don't have a jelly you might as well skip won't be popular with a large amount of the player base - or say anyone that has harrison..
fervent folio
Luck based events are no fun
Those who put in extra work or money should have an advantage
winged tulip
luck based events are no fun. Wallet based events are no fun. That's why win trading is a thing - and can't help thinking anything you do to prevent win trading just means people skip the event instead
fervent folio
Need to count ships destroyed in base raid towards pvp, that way the only way to hide is to bubble
winged tulip
I don't mind an event that takes me 10 kills to complete instead of 5 because i've paid less for ships, but an event that i can't score on because an lvl44 is camping the system is one to be skipped
fervent folio
And when you attack with multiple ships, your first ship loses you points...if you win with second then you break even?
Seems pointless
winged tulip
and not many people sit there stationary while you line up multiple attacks..
fervent folio
Get in an alliance with another 44 that can defend you
winged tulip
Yeah, they're easy to find 😆
fervent folio
they are
I'm in one, actually, it's a group of about 5 Alliances, I'm inthe smallest one, but if I need help i jump on the Discord and ask for it and get it
smallest level wise, we are full
should be based on Faction ships....26 ships vs 26 ships
there's no bought ship in there like the Jelly to screw things up
winged tulip
The faction ship one had too bad rewards for the repair costs
and really should announce events like that in advance so people had time to tier one if they want
fervent folio
and yeah, I say that knowing full well I can't participate in it currently
winged tulip
i was rather annoyed even at the first event when i'd just scrapped a maxed talla..
fervent folio
well, we can all agree that there should be an event calendar
and of course, rewards need to be good enough
I disagree
I think people that put in the work to max ships that are harder to max should have a clear advantage
so it should be ships that are hard to max...this would also encourage more people to max those ships
winged tulip
Which will make for a skippable event unless the rewards are amazing
fervent folio
and when you consider that events lately have been aimed at 25+(Vi'Dar) and then now 28+ for Outlaws...that's where things should be focused as that's likely where the majority of the playerbase is
so limiting it to Phindra/Turas/Talla is just silly
winged tulip
Limiting it to low ships makes it easy for everyone to take part, that was a good thing
fervent folio
yeah, I don't agree they should be closely matched....this is not a skill based game...in a skill based game yeah, you want people evenly matched so it comes down to skill
however, your advantage in this game is not skill....it's time spent
winged tulip
make a high level event where only 28 faction ships count and you'll have people with maxed ships nuking everyone, and anyone underpowered skipping the event and unimpressed
fervent folio
nullifying that advantage is just silly
winged tulip
and again, if you're having an event which say needs me to risk losing my sally 20 times in a row, then i'll be factoring in the trit etc needed to repair it into whether i bother to participate
fervent folio
again, i agree the rewards should be worthwhile at that point
but to say that someone who has not put in the work should have just as much of a chance of winning as someone who did...in a game about grinding...kinda defeats the purpose
players who have put in the time and money will get upset and leave
you want the spending players to go away?
winged tulip
But for an event to be a success it has to encourage the whole server to take part, and if you make money/power advantages matter too much then most of the server will skip the event. Whether i've paid money or not, there's people that spend a lot more, and that's true all the way up to the high 40s now
unless you're king of the hill, you're an easy kill for someone in your pvp range
fervent folio
that's where the real issue is, the PvP banding
maybe limit kills in PvP event to only count for people the same level as you
that would even the playing field
winged tulip
doesn't sound much fun nominating a system per player level and getting everyone to congregate there though
as far as i'm concerned the only fun PVP activity there is is base raiding, and that's fine, doesn't need encouraging
fervent folio
also, attacking Armadas is a good way to get your server to hate you
people spend money to get their directives...they get rather upset when players disrupt them
an event encouraging that sounds like a bad idea
abstract gate
I think good starting point for PvP events would be for devs to play Gran Turismo.
winged tulip
I've had a few fun fights over uncommon armadas - mostly losing, but still fun. But yeah rare/epics fighting will get you a war started in short order..
i'd say best way to encourage armada PVP is to have 'automatically' starting armadas, where the owner is the first person to get in the circle, changing every time they're kicked out
With no directive costs to start/lose, there's a lot less to be annoyed about - and if there were rare/epic credits you'd get a lot fighting over it - still not sure if it'd just lead to the server bullies crowding everyone else out though..
fervent folio
"server bullies"...you mean the people who put in the time and effort to be the strongest so that they could win events?
winged tulip
Time and effort.... you mean opened their wallet?
fervent folio
one or the other
you keep wanting to take away from those players though and that's just not gonna happen. Those that put time/money in to the game are gonna be the ones who come out on top
winged tulip
There's a big difference between looking to negate their advantages and limit them..
like simple would be to limit these auto-starting PVP armadas to ships within a certain level range of them
fervent folio
well, we are never gonna agree and I got work to do, so I'm agreeing to disagree and moving along
winged tulip
Yep, in a game of whack-a-mole no one ever volunteers to be the mole.
abstract gate
There needs to be reward system or new grind mechanic that will make your in game progression faster and better if you participate and finish PvP events...
So, make 2 types of PvP events:
- heavily bracketed ones
- free for all in current PvP brackets
- run them constantly (one day a week) in specific systems
- give amazing rewards with completed milestones
So, lets say, for bracketed ones:
- PvP event 1 (cadet level): g2 type battleships with max power at XXk
- PvP event 2 (ensign level): g3 type interceptor with max power limit at XXXXk
- PvP event 3 (commander lvl): g4 type explorer with max power limit
Every week switch the type of g2/g3/g4 ships...
You dont have g4 ship?...well, yeah some people spent bit more money and they do...grind or spend and once there you will be able to partcipate. There is warp55 mines you dont mine cause you dont have t7 faction miner. And you manage to live without it.
You dont have g3 interceptor, or your max sally is over limit?
Well build a second one because rewards are so great that in 12 weeks you will make return on your invesment on that ship and everything else will be profit...
Thats my MAKE PVP GREAT (not again because it never was)
swift lotus
Why would you make a second saladin?
fervent folio
sorry, but again, having a max power limit on those events excludes the people who put in time/money and that's just dumb
swift lotus
Plus power is also a combination of level, research and crew
fervent folio
why should someone who took time time to max out a ship be excluded for putting in that extra work?
that's the opposite of what should happen, they put in extra work, they should be rewarded
abstract gate
Thats why you have no limit normal pvp event run simulatenously...
And for second one....lets say they cap pvp event for that week and in future for 800k g3 interceptors.
Oh, 💩💩💩, all my g3 interceptors are 900k or over? What now...
Well, build an interceptor, watch what you upgrade and how, crew it properly, get as close to 800k as you can, but not over.
Too much rss and time. Yes. But once you have it. Rewards for finishing milestones are so good that you will make good on your investment in few weeks of event
fervent folio
and your suggestion of "build a second one" is also ludicrous.....your asking someone who already put in extra time and effort to put in even more just to be able to compete?
shrewd totem
👀
fervent folio
you are excluding people who put in time/money...that's a good way to run those players off
abstract gate
No...
They have no limit standard pvp event
There is just second heavily bracketed one
fervent folio
and then what happens when you promote an officer or complete a research that takes you over that limit
shrewd totem
Change your crew?
fervent folio
now that ship you put extra time and effort in to is now worthless
abstract gate
Dont use that officer. Dont do that research. Dont upgrade your ship to 799k so one research puts it to 802k
shrewd totem
There are thousands of crew combinations you can use. Never depend on a single officer
fervent folio
don't do that research?
really?
what about the other aspects of the game where I need it?
raw zenith
fervent folio
ok, i'm really going now, because this is just silly, exclude the people who put in time/money so the lazy people and the people who don't support the game can beat them
shrewd totem
JC you dont get a say in this! You are fully PvE
shrewd totem
You can but current PvP system sucks
abstract gate
If you want to participate in 1 of pvp types of event yes. Or just finish it to 720k so you have 10 research to do before it goes 800k...
Let me ask you this.
Would you put in time, grind and/or money to get 2nd g3 interceptor for PvP only bracketed events if you are guaranteed 300 unc crystal, 100 ore, 20 rare crystal, 5 rare ore, 50 mil trit and 10 mil dil every week
raw zenith
👀 ill pew pew bats for that
abstract gate
But make it so that 6 events guarantee you return on investment on that ship
shrewd totem
You cant kill my new Augur JC😈
raw zenith
prob can since you speed rush everything and do not complete your research 😆
shrewd totem
My research is 10x better than last time
raw zenith
so your halfway to your ops level in research now? 😆
shrewd totem
😂
abstract gate
Thats why there needs to be incetive from their side to build ships...
And we all will end up with 10-15 ships useable for bracketed pvp events...
Just play Gran Turismo or NFS...see what I am talking about...
Plus it makes so much choices for crewing...questions like do I do shield on t6 or two guns...none, but put max crew on it
shrewd totem
My combat one is up to speed. Base one is behind a lot
abstract gate
We dont need to be able to participate in all of them from start...but in 6 months we will be there...with PvP Talla, PvP D3, PvP B'rel, second PvP Jelly....
And for Scopely its more money....just imagine how much money would whales spend to make PvP Valodores
raw zenith
I would just beef up the stats on the highjacked ships, make them mostly pvp (original stats for pve) and make the highjacked ships useful
abstract gate
Haha, ok, Auhur just for you...
We all say hijacked ships are of no use for any decently power lvl28 or above...
raw zenith
thats why give them a revamp and make them really good in pvp
abstract gate
There we go @raw zenith exactly that...make hijacked ships bracket
shrewd totem
Will take a few months before I get a HJ😢
raw zenith
not me, my armada chests seem to suggest i need one lol
abstract gate
Is my math wrong or now through augment store you can get 3.5 prints per day...
So you can get it in 23 days
Yeah, hijacked ship is 176 000 augment credits. You can get 7610 a day.
So ~ 23 days
fervent folio
Thats why there needs to be incetive from their side to build ships...
And we all will end up with 10-15 ships useable for bracketed pvp events...Just play Gran Turismo or NFS...see what I am talking about...
Plus it makes so much choices for crewing...questions like do I do shield on t6 or two guns...none, but put max crew on it
@abstract gate Sorry, not gonna go play racing games to see how a totally different style of game should do things
if you want what those games offer, those games are there for you
raw zenith
make hj ships pvp and have their stats increase with ops level
abstract gate
If you dont want rewards dont build second PvP only ship.
Other thing, we all asked what to do with 2000+ bp for kehra, kumari and vahklas...
Cheap to build and to have 2 or 3 in ship hangar for PvP events
Scrap pvp altogether...it's broken and pointless anyway. Just make it opt in so the griefers can get on with dicking each other over and we can sit back and laugh at them.
And @fervent folio GT or NFS is just an example, and inspiration for heavily bracketed weekly type of PvP events. I did not ask you to play it
fervent folio
"Just play Gran Turismo or NFS...see what I am talking about..."
that is asking me to play it
so now you are changing what you are saying, going back and changing what you are saying
whatever
blocked, as I prefer to not have discussions with people who say they did not say things they clearly said
abstract gate
oh goodie we are in the semantic portion of the argument...my favourite bit. Do continue
Oh, @abstract gate agreed, PvP now has no incentive and can only cause grief.
And @fervent folio I used an expresion to convey my opinion and idea. Misunderstanding came from either my poor english or your inability to comprehend.
raw zenith
wow
shrewd totem
abstract gate
Hehe and sorry to disappoint @abstract gate I will not go further, and he blocked me...so sorry😉
Awww, my popcorn was ready and everything...
Shame
Dont like when I am reason that good popcorns go to waste😄
There's bound to be something entertaining in one of the feedback channels, it'll get eaten
raw zenith
i thought it was just a discussion lol
fervent folio
it was just a discussion, until people started saying they didn't say things they said...that's not a discussion anymore
raw zenith
misunderstanding doesnt mean he said things he didnt say
abstract gate
In my experience the discussions on the merits of pvp almost always devolve into arguments...it's pretty much the default nature of the pvp proponent after all
raw zenith
he admitted his english might be poor
fervent folio
"Just play Gran Turismo or NFS...see what I am talking about..."
And @fervent folio GT or NFS is just an example, and inspiration for heavily bracketed weekly type of PvP events. I did not ask you to play it
Direct contradiction in italics
raw zenith
and thats why you blocked?
shrewd totem
He gives an example of some games you can play to understand what he is saying
Doesnt say you MUST play them to understand what he is saying
abstract gate
semantics
/sɪˈmantɪks/
noun
the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning. The two main areas are logical semantics, concerned with matters such as sense and reference and presupposition and implication, and lexical semantics, concerned with the analysis of word meanings and relations between them.
Thats for Dyseptic.
Again, its either my poor english or lvl of batmans comprenhension is highly superior to the one LostWaldo has shown
Just look at the grand canyon for an example of a wide gap...
I'm obviously not suggesting you travel there and actually look...
raw zenith
what if i want to?
shrewd totem
😂
abstract gate
No, travel there to see😄
fervent folio
"Just play" "i did not ask you to play"
Is not the same thing
you know what, screw this
abstract gate
Can I have bit of those popcorns @abstract gate 😄
shrewd totem
raw zenith
man take a chill pill
abstract gate
Nooo stay, my popcorn is almost finished....
nova valley
just 3 more min. my cup of noodles is almost done.
raw zenith
😆
abstract gate
Faction hunt tonight I guess? Also any word on whether military supremacy event will happen soon/ever?
abstract gate
Yeah...but when though? Can't sit with a completed augur in my shipyard for ever
With race to ops
And bonus refinery
shrewd totem
Stop dreaming 😂
abstract gate
I just want to know if we are getting a ms event and if so how soon...being able to plan our progression is not an unreasonable request
Oh, you can ask. But dont bet you will get an answer.
I asked if and when we will have race to ops for 2 months after seeing "should be soon" from Panic...
Most of our progression is directly linked to events yet scopely wants to keep us flying blind...it's honestly the shadiest tactic they use to milk players for a few extra bucks
raw zenith
we do not know when those get released.
low berry
Correction we don’t know nothing what and when is released
nova valley
today. we're getting a miner killing event..... everone should go ahead and get a head start. ready set go!
k. i honestly expected more conversation than nothing. LMAO
abstract gate
Domination...thanks, cya Thursday
prisma geode
🤮
nova valley
wow. but 16k total points. and MAYBE just me, but it looks like my milestones were lowered?
abstract gate
Yes @nova valley milestones lowered.
One click event...done
shrewd totem
Rewards are also slight better?
shrewd totem
We are talking about domination
winged tulip
What's there to talk about? An event that says spend some XP then log off for a few hours and try and find some bored bases to raid..
merry fulcrum
No domination event is worse than last time, 1/4 the trit for 2/3rds the milestones
undone lance
You would have thought bp for augment faction ships would have been part of the milestones and from certain events. Or you can wait 80 days at which point they are probably useless to the player way to go
silver current
If everything you need requires uncommons or rares that you don’t have nor can you get because the refinery doesn’t refine then how is domination possible?
rocky obsidian
A bonus refinery might be nice. Just sayin...
nova valley
3.2 mil trit in my solo milestones for domination today. not great, but not bad considering it takes me a single click. HOWEVER. i'm with @grave oak it's getting tighter and tighter. my officers are almost maxed on xp for the tiers i have them at. won't be long before i'm actually capped on this event. NNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDD BADGES!
undone lance
Why is there no independent faction with its own ships and officers?
undone lance
But they cap out and you have to use faction ships
fervent folio
there are later ships
undone lance
?
At what level because other then the grade 3 survey ship I do not see anything else or do I see anyone use anything other then faction ships after the battleship you get at level 24
fervent folio
cause that's deep space stuff
undone lance
That does me no good currently
fervent folio
scroll all the way to the right in your ship screen, what does it say? Upgrade OPs to unlock
undone lance
Yes but that is level 39 correct
So from 24 until 39 the ships they give you in research can carry you all the way?
grave oak
No independent ships after 26 right? Horizon is the last one?
merry fulcrum
Rn yes, originally..... No
undone lance
No apparently after you level ops past 38 or 39 you magically get other ships through research
fervent folio
yeah, but I mean, why would you not get at least one faction ship?
merry fulcrum
Nope, only faction ships rn
They used to have 4* common ships as well
Orion war badge, h-class freighter
These were all beta ships
Back then they were power houses, now they would be very weak
So they'd probably get buffed if they made a return
undone lance
Hence independent faction or at least a functioning augment faction it will take me 79 more days to get enough bp to build the hijacked ships unless they offer an event and by then they will probably be useless to me
You would think for the money them make on this game they would have a better set up
fervent folio
why are you unable to get a faction ship?
undone lance
I seem to have problems I will be able to build the d3 once I hit 26 I am 10 bp away in faction store and have half the credits but it’s useless because my level in ops is about to be 24
Once I have all the d3 blueprints I will focus on the next faction ship and put all my credits into blueprints
grave oak
I rode my kumari to 28, sally is getting me to 32...hopefully intrepid will carry to 34 and a D4
undone lance
Yeah but they make it worse then it has to be they should have ships you get in research to carry you between levels
Not to mention I will be at ops 24 for a little while to finish all research and modules
grave oak
Making it worse than it has to be is profitable...evil corporations etc
undone lance
I don’t mind spending money now and again but these guys are sharks
grave oak
Imagine if a company had the goal of making a good game.... 🤯
undone lance
Joke is I have finished all daily for event and have moved along with no purchase of extra points or anything
3400 points from milestones 6
It’s not impossible they just expect you to play a lot
grave oak
The only purchases I've made have come from google play card awards from work
undone lance
Nice
I have spent maybe 100
Total so far do not really intend to spend anymore the slow grind for me
Not horrible by the time I research the ops I need to build the next faction ship I will have all the blueprints
grave oak
The missing refinery events are where we are getting shafted the most
undone lance
I mean at this pace by the time I hit ops 26 to build the d3 I will have enough credits or almost enough to buy all the bp for the bortas
I am a few days away from having the credits to buy the remaining 10 bp for d3 and won’t be able to build it for like a month
fervent folio
so what's the problem then? You've got a ship at 20, 22 and 24 and you're ready to get the faction ship at 26...
why do you need more ships
as it is I have problems keeping all my ships upgraded and tiered up
you won't be able to bui.d it for a month? how is that a problem...this game is a marathon...not a sprint
wise wharf
No it's a grind fest
You either pay to move up or you grind and grind until you do
Horrible rng
fervent folio
yup, a marathon
wise wharf
How is that a marathon? I am not in a race with anyone
Is there some prize for first to a certain level or system?
fervent folio
marathon = long grind...it's a long and arduous process to complete a marathon
people train for years to be able to complete a marathon and sometimes do not, it's the very definition of a long grind
that's comparable to this game in many ways...it's a long and arduous process, you can spend weeks refining trying to get what you need and not get it
undone lance
That’s called bad rng algorithm set up by the company in a scheme to make as much money as possible.
You would have better odds rolling real dice
fervent folio
I dunno, the game has been running for how long with that "bad rng algorithm" and plenty of people stick around and new players join all the time...so apparently it works pretty good
again, it's a marathon, not a sprint....you are not supposed to have it all right now, it's a grindy game
gilded wharf
Anyone have any experience dealing with customer service, and reporting possible bugs?
robust vapor
I tried it once back when I started, wasn't worth my time 😂
Depends on the issue though, they have been providing players with BB blueprints recently in response to the last update making it impossible for them to collect the remaining prints for example.
wide geyser
Anybody know when is the next ISS JellyFish event?
fervent folio
no, they do not release that information at all, though I believe Panic has said on @nova valley podcast that it will be run about once a month
@wide geyser
teal jackal
except for when they skip a month or three
inland hamlet
@undone lance but what are your officers like all t3?
And dare say most your bp came from armada chests where b4 there were no armada s so new content made it easier
But your officers probably suck more on your t3 ships
magic compass
LostWaldo.. profound.. and wise.. this game is surley a marathon.. agree 💯.
dapper drum
doesn't have to be
if you know how to play it smart
be a pro stfc gamer and use those digits on the plastic
fervent folio
one could argue that to use that plastic you need to grind RL to make that money
dapper drum
most don't have to grind too hard
already got players breaching the 7 digit spent mark
novel hollow
Think they will do more zeta tokens in the arc?
novel hollow
Lol well used my two see if I could bump up a couple spots on the aug officer event. That one hijack print and officer xp didn’t help much.
mental yoke
Lol...data and armadas together!
cursive sonnet
Come on, 2 days of domination events in a row is ridiculous
drowsy viper
HOW CAN YOU START AN ARMADA EVENT WITHOUT FIXING THE BUG PREVENTING ALL BANNERS TO LOAD AND SHOW? Seriously....
dapper drum
not a bug
working as intended
takes 10 seconds at most for first banner to show to all players
if you are starting an armada before letting system scan thats your own fault
if your armada and other armada are only 10 seconds apart thats scopely fault
drowsy viper
dapper drum
and you see those ships pulsing
drowsy viper
In this case everything was properly loaded except banners. That’s recent as when I stopped playing 5 months ago, this bug didn’t exist
dapper drum
banner is there just an overlay issue with your device
reload system it will show up and something else will be gone
drowsy viper
Yes, luckily that time the ships were there, but 95% players start armadas from afar
dapper drum
just learn the workarounds, don't expect scopely to fix anything ever
also those ships are your enemy
why are you not killing them
drowsy viper
Don’t shoot the messenger
Wait I’m sorry, are you someone who can tell me how I should play? It’s a bug. There’s a difference between an uncontested armada and a contested one
merry fulcrum
Biggest off scopely
Augment mining events are a big oof again, seriously, 500k data in 24hrs
earnest hornet
Hey at least you still get the points for starting it, so not a huge loss. But yes I agree still annoying.
drowsy viper
Thank you, yes at least they gave points for starting it and “only” 20 for killing it
earnest hornet
But hey kill their leader and steal the armad from them
drowsy viper
But seriously you can’t do an event like that when a bug like this affecting so many players is still around
drowsy viper
I’m asking again, who are you to tell me how I should play? If there’s enough armadas targets for everyone, why waste rss and ships?
PvP armadas only makes sense with a LDB
earnest hornet
Not telling you how to play offering a suggestion.
drowsy viper
I’m saying it for the other guy, not you
formal stag
damn, 50? gotta complete 50 armadas to get 1000 points. thats liek 12.5 hours of armadas at 15min waiting
drowsy viper
It’s a lottery, even refreshing system you can’t be sure there’s no armada started
formal stag
it's 1000pts for all the solo milestones and 20points per lvl 29armada defeated or 20 points for defeating rare/epic armada
serene raptor
Jeez. Who came up with this event? Ridiculous exchange rate for UC -> rare. Stupid high tiers, long respawns. What a waste of time
shrewd totem
Yep
earnest hornet
So 100 points for starting an uncommon
winged tulip
but then seeing as 29+ armadas will be rarer than rocking horse poo you're probably better off starting 10 lvl21 ones and ignoring the event.
formal stag
drowsy viper
Do you have a lvl requirement for armada? Mine doesn’t say anything
earnest hornet
Nope mine doesn’t. But maybe supposed to 😂😂
shrewd totem
@formal stag so you are gonna start 0 armadas and only join/win armadas that other people started?
Name of the event is LAUNCH an armada
formal stag
thats still alot of armadas to do in like 24hours. even joining others it's alot of waiting around
drowsy viper
The milestones are ok, the rewards are bit lame, but the bug is too much, it makes it into a lottery
shrewd totem
Dont have to stare at the screen for 15 mins
earnest hornet
Yea the joy is set and make a coffee and read the newspaper 😂😂😂
drowsy viper
You’re probably gonna get killed because someone started there after you and wants to kill the target
formal stag
yeah, but your still going to have to launch or join about 47 armadas. which is quite abit.
shrewd totem
No
drowsy viper
Not sure you can afford to make coffee and read newspaper 😂
shrewd totem
Launch 8-9 armadas will be enough to finish
It is an event to LAUNCH armadas not JOINING them
earnest hornet
No bacon launching 5 uncommon armadas and defeating will work our to 600 points,
formal stag
1 point for starting, 20 points for defeating is 21 points.
21*8 is like 168 points. am i missing anything?
drowsy viper
That’s a good way to wage directives to don’t get loot 😂
earnest hornet
Plus starting 4 more is 400 so easy 1000 points
shrewd totem
@formal stag it takes 100 directives to start an unc armada
So starting is 100 points
earnest hornet
Read properly. 1 point per directive. 100 directives to start an uncommon
formal stag
that would be brutal
earnest hornet
😂😂
shrewd totem
#readingishard 😂
jaunty sonnet
@shrewd totem is there going to be an alliance leaderboard for the armadas?
shrewd totem
🤷♂️
earnest hornet
It probably would’ve loaded if there was going to be, but who knows sometimes it can be slightly delayed in loading 😂
abstract gate
Why jesus!
stone grail
thats gash
earnest hornet
Today’s dom gives 16000 points
abstract gate
Thanks. What about the data mining?
earnest hornet
stone grail
after completing dom
earnest hornet
Only need to get to level 8 to get the next mission keys, so still plenty of time to get that and finish the missions for the mission event.
stone grail
for sure, just would of though each day would allow you to go up a milestone, which is what they've done so far
earnest hornet
Then still plenty time to finish the final two tiers
Nah wouldn’t be that much that would mean only 10 days for the milestones.
They haven’t done that in the past,
vestal heron
How are we supposed to do an event when the nodes break every reset. Players pming other players to kill ships that aren’t really there.
HOW ARE THE EVENTS SUPPOSED TO WORK IF THE NODES DON’T ?????
Yes excessive caps I know
Official response please
Ya know that not the question
Breaks every reset worse than last week how is that a fix ?
Won last week this is BS
Really is just pay to play since that is all that works. Good thing you keep that part of the game running
shrewd topaz
Where are the armadas ????
vestal heron
😆
hexed lark
crisp jasper
Did something change with dead mining nodes? When I attack the phantom node, my ship starts heading to player who messed up the node, not to the node itself
rustic parcel
Anyone else having severe lag with armadas showing they have been started by other alliances?
potent temple
yep
edgy juniper
so i must launch at least 1 armada only i can get the alliance reward?
potent temple
Happens even when there isn't an armada event
dapper drum
you must launch an armada before an alliance milestone
otherwise you don't get that milestone
edgy juniper
can anyone confirm ?
dapper drum
yes thats always how its been
any ams, you don't get any milestone rewards before you contribute
only ones after you contribute
@hexed lark you probably got 375 uncommon credits back
hallow ember
some of our folks are seeing the same issue
dapper drum
open up a 10 minute chest
and whatever you would have got will show with it
most likely really bad server lag as always when events reset
hallow ember
not for me, but the drop rate was terrible so I stopped surging pretty quickly
hallow ember
34 is pretty much the same
icy panther
Yeah, Server 29 is still super active.
topaz pendant
Eu 162 got few rare and epic left
icy panther
Which is great most days.
silk skiff
There are no enough armadas at server 159 to complete the event, they make you want to leave.
dapper drum
I only got an armada because I saw it 5 minutes prior to start and grabbed one
pjem has 3 flags on 1 armada
if they are going to run armada events, armadas need to auto spawn once dead
lol watching an armada get multiple flags minutes apart
SALT is gonna be salty
thats 3 they have been late to start
prisma geode
Armada event rewards are a joke, complete both still can run a rare. Nice Scopely.
abstract gate
you cannot put an army event, and have an army defecit on the server. Gentlemen ... if the systems do not have enough special armies, it is impossible to complete the event. correct the error, they are still on time.
dapper drum
just buy an armada victory pack and get it refunded after for not being able to use it and keep the directives for later
abstract gate
no ... I am not going to buy or store, I will not be 24/24 to do an event due to lack of organization. thanks for the advice. it doesn't work for me. congratulations scopely
dapper drum
scopely only ever acts if they are at risk of losing money
earnest hornet
It’s changed, no more cool down, I did one earlier and it had a cool down, now it doesn’t
dapper drum
nope no cooldown
I have something to use my hundreds of thousands of credits on now 🙂
nope got a cooldown
well was hopeful thinking
will get to use it again with 30 minutes left until it expires 😂
earnest hornet
Hahaha yea I just did it about 6 times then got the cool down back 😂😂😂
inner fossil
I would like to thank Scopley for messing up yet another part of the game...data node amount...my god man this is friggin tedious now...smh. Supposed to be improving the game not make it worse
fervent folio
so being able to do in a few minutes what once took a couple hours is not an improvement?
south arrow
Great job scopley having the three worst events you hav all at the same time bravo
manic stag
I don't mind an armada event but there needs 2 b armadas 2 actually do the event...
lapis harbor
Need more armada targets
primal totem
Armada targets exhausted here too, spawn rate needs to maybe be increased during event plz....
prisma geode
Yes, spawn rates need to be increased drastically
strong kayak
SOOOOooooooo you solution to the data mining was to decrease the mining rate on the node by 100%??????!!!!!!?????
south arrow
That’s why it’s a shit event
strong kayak
Does anyone think through the effects of their actions there? or is there just a bunch of trained monkeys banging on keyboards there?
dapper drum
bunch of untrained monkeys
north wraith
I would just have increased the mining rate of data nodes without killing the node to 10% its cap
quiet abyss
They have the money...they should hire a monkey trainer!
strong kayak
how many HUNDREDS of players simple asked for the AMOUNT of data on the nodes to be increased? Did anyone count that?