Events far “too easy” now, especially when using Pike 😂
#🏆-event-chat
ionic surge
robust vapor
Problem is they buffed all the ships noticeably and added G4 without adjusting the event 🙄 I'm not a fan of the hours of work events, but this is stupid.. we were discussing it a while ago to, about how easy to do it would be now (even without Pike). Thought they'd do something to adjust it 😑
ionic surge
Would have made sense to “ban” Pike for the event
robust vapor
Nah, still would knocked out the solo in no effort.
ionic surge
Solo leaderboards would have been more interesting that way at least 😂
tepid isle
robust vapor
I need 3 kills, this is what 1.1m power bortas without using Pike cost me in damage 😴 it's too much
abstract gate
Yup, 3 kills for solo milestone event is all I needed at 38...my sally can get 260 kills on a hull...event is pathetically trivial in this format. Each seperatist system group needs a 4th system added with stronger bosses giving more points and better drops along with a revamp of the milestone event itself to reflect the new triviality of seperatist bosses as a whole.
winged tulip
The rewards aren't even just that bad - i'm just fed up with grinding and won't even contemplate going for the leaderboard, and i wanted something to do with my evening, rather than make 2 kills and log.
There's a hard balance to be made between making events trivially easy and over too quickly, and a massive long slog that causes people to give up, but doesn't really feel like scopely are trying to make that balance atm
abstract gate
I've done 4 hulls so far, not because the slb rewards are particularly enticing (they really aren't for the time and effort needed) but simply to do my part for the alb (and that sweet 140mil parsteel reward)
robust vapor
Leaderboard 🙄 camping spawn points you mean..
winged tulip
Our alliance just looked, saw it was top 10, and agreed it was one to nope out from
ionic surge
@robust vapor yeah lots of fun isn’t it 😂 I advise doing early or late systems are usually less full
abstract gate
I'm in a top 3 alliance (2nd on power, 1st-3rd in every alb) so there's a modicum of incentive to help keep us on top
robust vapor
Just have to go for the battleships, no one wants to fight them for some reason 😅
winged tulip
We're usually a top 10 alliance but the activity isn't fun enough and the rewards aren't good enough to warrant us all going to grind bosses
weak copper
Found that on our server yesterday too. Paraleon was swamped with spawn campers, hardly anyone was hitting the battleship bosses.
Still wasn’t going to spend 14 hours hitting red triangles though 🤣
ionic surge
Lots of misclicks and apologising in pm 😂
abstract gate
Because pike crew vs explorers is optimal so pareleon is the only viable option to maximise your kills per hull
winged tulip
Yeah the one good thing about borgmadas was that it at least led to some different crew choices
abstract gate
Each run for me is 45min-1hr, to match 1st place in slb rn would have taken 9hrs...that dude is multitasking several ships at once
Fortunately he's also in my alliance so...meh
ionic surge
Solo lb seems a lot easier at lower levels, judging on what I can see 😂
robust vapor
T5 Mayflower still kills one, without Pike 😴👍
abstract gate
Probably is yeah as only kills count and bosses are off the table for lower lvl players I would imagine most look at the prospect of grinding 17s or 22s for 16hrs straight and nope out immediately
Not sure what the bracket range is this time around...mine seems to be around 31-39 so it's quite competitive
robust vapor
Meh, can kill a boss with a T5 Mayflower and no Pike, and that was the interceptor with its kinetic barrage. Piece of pie to kill, probably decent Kumari cut through the explorers too.
ionic surge
Think bracket for me is maximum OPS31 but not sure what the lowest is, but the scores seem low compared to what I’m seeing from the higher levels 😂
winged tulip
Don't think the top on our LB have slept yet.. and fed up with wide ranges in leaderboards.
split mortar
Scopely could have at least updated the event. Too much to ask
gusty glen
My bracket is ops 24-27 I think. Top guy must have been grinding for hours.
I've only grinded one event and that was for the spock avatar. Never again
split mortar
Our top guy grinds all night with 4 ships and on 1.7m points 🤪🤪🤪🤪
It took me all my will power to stomach 30 minutes of this crap
gusty glen
I thought this event was meant to be highly wanted but I think I prefer faction hunt.
split mortar
Well, when it first came out it was a challenge, now it’s just more drudge
inner cave
It was liked as you did get a choice of rewards similar to borg event store
mental yoke
3 day leaderboards for hostile grinding events is just too much. 3, 24hour ones would have been much better.
novel cloak
How about next vote scopley gives us we do Call To Arms
wanton cloud
@mental yoke the ALB events always go like that, the solo LB is 24 hours
mental yoke
Yes, and people would be more inclined to go for it if it was 24 hours for grinding reds events. 3 days of constant hostile grinding is just too much imo.
winged tulip
I won't grind ships that drop nothing much useful, fighting over spawn points, for 24 hours, for a small chance at a small leaderboard.
meager galleon
Small leaderboard? 32-39 is huge on my server 😦
I’m thinking of trying to go up to 40 just to get onto a less congested board
shrewd totem
Rewards are good though
I only had to do like 3 trips with Brel to be in T25
500kish points
winged tulip
Yeah i mean small in thesense of there's only 25 places on a wide level range - not enough chance of even getting a consolation prize to be worth the grind.
spiral forge
being in top 25 leaderboard is just impossible unless you spend more than 7 hours killing bosses. That is just insane
been ranked 74 after 2.5 hours of killing, that is a total joke
winged tulip
Yep. If i spent an hour grinding i'd feel obligated to spend enough time to rank 25th at least, and then i'd have to skip work to scoreboard. Or i can make 2 boss kills then log for the night..
south arrow
Kaution 40 and up leaderboard is nice you should go for it 🤣
shrewd totem
@spiral forge that depends on your server. I spent 3ish hours to rank in T25,3 Brel trips,500kish points
spiral forge
so at least my server is active! i
winged tulip
Not even sure that anything outside the top 3 is worth the time spent
shrewd totem
Mine has at least 1.5k players(that is active enough for me)but most of them are lazy 🤣
@winged tulip unc and dil is nice
spiral forge
im in EU 133.
winged tulip
Today it's parsteel 😆
shrewd totem
7 hours of killing would put me in T3 if I could do 500k in 3 hours
@winged tulip it is trit
Gas/Dil,Cry/trit,Ore/Par
spiral forge
hum, top players are a lil better than in your server but not that much. I ranked 84, with 2.5 hours spending killing bosses (pro less than 2.5 hours cause i ve made some pauses, you know, go to toilets and things like that)
shrewd totem
I could rank in earlier FEs easily as well.For me FE has one of best leaderboards and worth to spend some time
In the past I used to rank in leaderboards to get my speed ups back in latinum+ a few extra unc.Now it is mostly for credits and rss
Might spend 10+ hours killing separatists when we have Rom version because I want to get Augur asap😅
winged tulip
Fair enough if you've got a lot of spare time, but between work and sleep and boredom it just feels yet another 5 minute event 😦
spiral forge
this game made us crazy
shrewd totem
I dont sleep usually+no work+no university 😂. I have a lot of spare time due to Covid sadly
sharp ibex
@spiral forge wrong, you where already crazy enough to install it 😛
spice umbra
Hi everyone, there is any bug with the event scoring? Everytime I destroy a level 17 elite I only get 1 point and not 5
lime raft
@spice umbra Can you check how much your actual points change after each kill? Since you get 1 point for killing a hostile and 5 points for the separatist kill, sometimes the notification only shows "+1" even though it actually gave you all 6 if you look at the score change.
spice umbra
@lime raft I will test it now
You are right, it showns 1 point but I get 6, thank you
lime raft
No problem, glad it's working!
dapper drum
and today on notifications of our life episode one over and over and over and over again
I do chuckle when i get the +/- next to it
scoring multiple point types at once
nova valley
At least it doesn’t keep displaying damage for milestones once that’s finished hahaha
dapper drum
and we can see the hostiles without reloading system 500+ times
eternal jacinth
Why I don’t have this event???
Where is single ranked event for me?
Where is the fairness?
eternal jacinth
Yes
shrewd totem
Hmm
eternal jacinth
It’s crazy
shrewd totem
That is weird,you tried to contact support yet?
eternal jacinth
It’s little to late. Or u think I can win this event now 😅
shrewd totem
Probably wont see it during this period of the event because they cant make changes to current events.So either yesterday's after event reset or will have to wait till next FE
eternal jacinth
yes it only annoys me. I am constantly disadvantaged by any mistakes. it just can't be.
shrewd totem
Tag me with support's answer when they reply
If it isnt helpful,I might be able to escalate
wicked arrow
old pasture
At some point last week I asked about a specific mission that when completed destroys your factions to negative 500k across all 3. Happened around lvl27. Anyone remember that mission?
4 weeks, no dailies cuz I am grinding thousands of romulans to get back into at least one faction
I ask because @shrewd totem is online and might be able to advise me
Sigh
merry fulcrum
😂 🤣
shrewd totem
👀
@old pasture I don't think there is such mission
Note: tagging after editing a post doesnt send notification <- the reason why I didn't answer earlier
If you can give me more details about it,maybe I can find some info about it but I never encountered such mission in both of my accounts
I searched your message history and found out that Order already tried to help you,did you get a reply from support?
old pasture
No
shrewd totem
Over a week and you didnt get an answer from CS?🤔
Send another ticket about your issue with when it happened,what it was about,at what lvl,player id,mission name if possible plus all the details you can remember in short nice post
old pasture
Will do, ty, sir.
snow axle
This is a plee for you to do what's right, before the event store closes
I was kicked of my alliance midway the alliance event progress. This prevented me from collecting the latter half of the points for the store. Even if I was digilent at collecting all warfund points and never missed any day, my progress got locked.
I understand that this rule for swapping alliance was set due to a lack of programming inginuit and as a backwards attempt to prevent users from abusing the system.
And there lies my plee. I am a victim of other players decitions. I did NOT choose to leave nor swap alliances during the event. It was FORCED upon me. No choice. There was nothing I could do. In my case, the clause to "abuse the system" doesn't apply.
Therefore I reiterate, I plee for your help!
I KNOW you have the power (and the tools) to credit my account, as you've helped countless other players. You can do it. It will be completely unfair not to fix my situation.
Please do what's right and credit my account with the missing store points. Before it's too late.
PLEASE!
@here
@gaunt yacht
modest oyster
You were kicked, I think that sorta says it all.
Whoever/Why-ever got kicked is the reasoning you didn't get the points.
barren night
☝️☝️☝️
formal stag
do the amount of faction credits you get converting charged nano probes go up as you tier up vidar?
right now it's 2500 charged for 150 faction cred at t6 vidar ops 30 associate
formal stag
ok cool
cunning arrow
You know, I was looking forward to the Separatist Event. But thx to Scopely’s amazing knack of ignoring past mistakes by not increasing spawn rates, most of the joy has been sucked out of this Event. Well done Scopely, well done 😒
teal jackal
They should have included a faction ship pvp event. That would have greatly increased the entertainment value
robust vapor
They should have done a lot of things.. we were discussing how ridiculously easy the bosses would be to kill ages ago 😑
carmine lily
the spawns are fine, 3 people can share a spawn point fairly effectively. the problem is that literally everyone gathers in only one system because thats where it's most efficient to hunt.
hostiles need some rebalancing.
the same is true of nearly every hostile hunting event, the majority of players tend to go after one hostile type all in the same system or small number of systems.
sonic belfry
If the Scopely overlords are watching... can we please have a military supremacy and a bonus refinery? Pretty please, with sprinkles on top...
merry fulcrum
How about no military supremacy 😆 though tbh, I could easily grind one out since I've got all my ships able to hit 36s
halcyon patio
ops 28 leaderbord rewards from may 2019...😐
shrewd totem
@halcyon patio current rewards are better
I would chose 4k fed credits instead of 10 crappy Intrepid ship bps that I already have every time
You gotta chose. Cant have both🤷♂️
Either crappy Trep bps or less credits but you can get the ship bps you want
I dont remember 300 unc though 🤔
Was that during AoW(Act of War)?
teal jackal
That is a nice reward.
But i after with Batman
Credits are better
The only good thing about this event is that it gives the non-whales a decent shot at turret leaderboard. It's all about how much you are running to grind
Willing* to grind
halcyon patio
Ye, credits are better.. but uc too and a bit of lat. ss is from here https://youtu.be/ArRG78ibVG8?t=247
shrewd totem
Yeah that is during AoW
Rewards will be better since it was a part of bigger event like Borg Arcs
warped stag
AoW 👀
abstract gate
Act of War
warped stag
I realised that, I was making curious eyes that it might come back 😶.
abstract gate
Only Scopely knows 😅
fleet ridge
👀
floral trail
I dont really have the time to blindly click red triangles all day, I guess the winner will likely just be a bot anyway.
exotic plover
☝️100
olive rover
And the new LB rewards also have more rare gas 👀
Which is better to stockup on if you can
rich patio
Fractured Empire..hmmm... didnt it have its own special Event Store before?? now as the Borg Event Store is still open why couldnt Scopelyhave added Borg credits to the Fractured Empire prizes so that it would compensate for the lack of the events store? After all isnt that why most people voted for the Fractured Empire event in the first place.. for the event store that came with it......
rich patio
so which one was it with the Batleth credits?
rich patio
Act of War?
winged tulip
Still a bit poopy to give us the event we voted for but reducing the rewards...
outer herald
Act of War
spiral forge
been like 8/9 months since last act of war, maybe more
abstract gate
Been a year since we had the romulan, fed or klingon specific event
Fight for ur team i think it was
Something like that
Too long ago to remember 😂
tawny owl
Think they should have done something to make it more difficult to kill bosses and the event less of a grind, considering separatist event was released over a year ago when not many people had Rare and Epic faction ships.
Was fun when we worked as teams to get damage points and then eventual kill a boss.
normal oar
If Fractured Empire doesn’t bring a chance to get Separatist D3 bps, how do we get them?
floral trail
@tawny owl I don't think the bosses are too weak, more that Pike, Moreau and Chen are almost too good. I guess its only a matter of time before they are nerfed... @normal oar the Red d3s were out in the first run of this event, sadly only a couple of whales have them and I don't think they will come around again.
solemn sequoia
They are not possible to aquire
winged tulip
If you're unlucky you can get hijacked ship bps in epic armada chests
solemn sequoia
Separatist d3's were a reward for the very first leaderboard
and have never returned
(the leaderboard for this event)
dapper drum
@floral trail I can kill more with decius khan and gorkon
than with pike moreau and tlaan
chen is about same or less depending on your luck
novel hollow
Pike Moreau Decious?
sand quail
Hi! Anyone know when will be next OPS event?
ruby vortex
Curious what y’all are running for each factions seperatists bosses
ruby vortex
😂 yeah Ok
humble otter
Standard hostile Gringing crew, Pike, Moreau, Chen vs Fed explorer 26s
Using a Bortas
ruby vortex
I see mention of pike Moreau Chen/tlann I wanted to see how many people have figured out which setup is best for which areas
humble otter
Chen vs exp & BS (I think) tlaan vs INT
ruby vortex
That’s this event so far and last event with 1.1 million points still came in 3rd 😂 need to rethink ur battleship for those of u with augurs look to see which weapons it has also interceptors have a combo of both kinetic and energy
robust vapor
@humble otter both battleship and interceptor for the separatist bosses have the same firing pattern, with 8 kinetic hits in round 4. T'laan will generally be better for the battleships this time.
wanton cloud
@dapper drum sounds like you're hitting the wrong bosses then
@dapper drum pike moreau chen vs explorers is the only way to go, doesn't matter what ship type you use
that's true for almost any hostile, separtist or otherwise, it absolutely destroys the battle triangle
swarm and borg are obvious exceptions
shrewd totem
Yeah because Pike/Moreau makes Chen go up to 96% damage reduction I think
It is around 90ish for sure but not sure about exact number
wanton cloud
i get ~30 or so lvl 39 battleships killed with my sally, yet i can kill > 100 explorers of similar power lol
90% is the number before any mitigation even
if you have chen maxed
shrewd totem
Yeah mine is maxed
wanton cloud
so with max mitigation alone, it's ~97%
wanton cloud
i think that moreau's officer ability also contributes something to it as well
shrewd totem
Yep but not that much
wanton cloud
well, depends on how it's calculated i guess
even 1% is a lot when you only have 3% left 😛
shrewd totem
True😅
wanton cloud
@shrewd totem if my math is right, i'm actually getting over 99% damage reduction
hostile deals 13663 damage (which is already reduced by 90%), actual hull damage is 1134, which is less than 10% of the reduced damage
which means i'm receiving less than 1% of the original damage 😂
mental yoke
Will be nerfed right about the time I get him 😂
lone ember
We hate the crew combo! 😂 please power up the combo! 😂
dapper drum
if the elite boss crits a single kinetic than chen is worse than tlaan
and if going for normal battleships pike is useless
chen with tlaan and moreau is better
obtuse otter
Now you only need to kill 3k to get top 10 🙂
robust vapor
How is Chen a better choice on bosses if they don't crit in kinetic? Both battleship and interceptor variants have the same firing pattern where you get hit with 8 kinetic for every 4 energy. Even ignoring the higher damage of kinetics that's not in Chen's favour. Chen is only better here if you can kill them before the kinetics go off in round 4.. T'laan is the logically superior choice against boss separatist battleships 🤷♂️
teal jackal
robust vapor
You'll need to clarify there @teal jackal
The best you'll get once you go past round 4 is 8:8 energy/kinetic hits, with kinetics dealing higher damage than energy, so Chen makes no sense against boss separatist battleships unless you can blow them up before round 4 🤷♂️ regular battleships sure, but not boss separatist battleships..
robust vapor
And just for laughs, let's actually look at the difference in damage between the energy and kinetic. No damage reduction crew on board.
So best case you get hit with same number of kinetic hits as energy, but the kinetic hits significantly harder per hit. Yep, Chen looks so much better than T'laan in that fight, critical hits or otherwise 🙄 (sarcasm intended).
teal jackal
@robust vapor the logic piece was directed at the person you were replying to. For you:
robust vapor
Considering that I made the logic comment in my post, that did not seem clear. 👍
abstract gate
Is fractured empire just 3 days or 2x3days?
abstract gate
Your spock is not decent...lvl20 minimum, max him if you can
Borg officers will hit the independent credits wall eventually...not worth the badges atm (my opinion)
teal jackal
@jagged bone the only officer really worth upgrading is 10 of 10. The officers don't need upgrades.
Focus on tiering your Vidar first. Once you hit tier 8 you can fill cargo in Borg space with level 5 officers (if you do it right)
robust vapor
T8? People were telling me T6, then T7, then T7 + phaser, now T8 😢
shrewd totem
With 7of10/5of10/another borg.It is easy to fill your cargo by killing lvl29s
And I have a T7 Vidar
robust vapor
My T6 doesn't cut it still 😥
shrewd totem
Could fill the cargo before I got 5of10 but it was taking more time
Your research and officers are also important Order.Might be able to do it if you have much more attack stats
robust vapor
Nah, we had that conversation already 😋 three triple shots it took me still, less than a third of my usual haul.
ionic surge
It’s easy to fill cargo on the 29s, just takes ages 😂
spiral forge
i am not convinced at all by borg officers. 6 of ten with its 5% penetration isnt incredible at all against armada, and pike crew plus tlann does a much better job on borg than usual borg crew. Of course, it will be probably different with borg officer at level 15, but really it will takes ages to get them to this level (espacially the epic ones)
drowsy viper
It’s faction hunt after this event finishes? I don’t remember what it was, can someone give me two or three hints?
dapper drum
no we got faction hunt already
plush plinth
What is the next event?
indigo perch
@robust vapor , I count the number of kills per hull, period, anything else is really not relevent.. Chen is the most consistent vs bs and exp, tlaan vs interceptors is most consistent. I dont know why and I dont really care. I care about how it works, not how it should work. Your logic fails to account for scopley math. Bottom line, test it. If it works, use it, even if Rev Deuce thinks its stoopid....
devout talon
You don't need borg officiers to hit 29s.
They only hit once first 3 turns and any t5+ vidar will kill them before turn 4.
So it makes sense to go pike etc, for max mitication
indigo perch
@spiral forge for my runs. Pike moreau tlaan, very consistent vs borg probes. 7c, 8, 9. Inconsistent from one run to the next but averages out higher kills per hull over multiple runs. So I run 7 8 9 against 30s because I'm too lazy to run an hour vs 29s.
@devout talon agree, cargo hold fills with either crew so irrelevant as to which crew is used.
robust vapor
@indigo perch that's because most battleships will have 2 energy weapons and 1 kinetic weapon, and I'd say less disparity between damage. While boss separatists have 1 energy and 2 kinetic, just like an interceptor does, and a large disparity between damage. It's also already been tested by players. If you understand how it works btw, you can actually plan things..
earnest hornet
My borg crew and vidar are good level now i kill the 29s in 1 or 2 rounds, so i can fill my cargo with 3/4s hull
abd yea thats fine against normal battle ships, but Talking Seperatist Battleships, tlaan is better because of the Kinetic shots as he explained before.
indigo perch
@robust vapor fun info, but not relevant. Decision making 101=consider info directly related to goal, ignore the rest.
robust vapor
What are you talking about @indigo perch ? It's directly related to the goal of hunting boss separatists, which is what I was taking about earlier 😑
earnest hornet
exactly, so that info is necessary, depending what you are going to hit, so knowing the firing pattern directly realated to the goal
and yeah trying both and seeing what works best is a part of that, depending on the level of your officers,
using chen against the Interceptors and battleship Seperatists is not the best strategy for the kills you want.
fossil lagoon
Anyone else regretting their nostalgic rose tinted memories of Separatists when they voted for it to be re-run? 😂
earnest hornet
well if it was run like it was in the past, thats what we voted for,
and yea we are stronger now, so it's not unusual that we can kill so many, but wouldve been nice if they made it a little harder, or made the milestones higher
indigo perch
@robust vapor re boss killing, are hard over biased to battleships vs explorers in parelon. I tested every combo before event started 170+ kills in parelon vs 15 or so in the other two areas....no contest...no other decision point after that. So, it doesnt matter how tlaan does vs interceptors. If u are grinding efficiently, you are using a battleship in parelon, most likely with pike moreau and chen. I didnt get that info from other players.
@indigo perch I'll also say. Tested all areas with relevant crews and triangles.
earnest hornet
yup of course, the explorers in pareleon is the better choice, even using a sally vs the explorers,
robust vapor
@indigo perch so basically the entire point of saying that Chen is better against battleships and this entire conversation was what?
earnest hornet
but that wasnt what was being discussed
indigo perch
My sali ist still by far my strongest ship and nope. Not even close.
robust vapor
It's like you see that you're losing the argument and so just change to something different 🙄
indigo perch
@earnest hornet yes it was, the discussion was "why are ppl using xxx" vs bosses.....
spiral forge
@indigo perch : hum, i am only killing 33, and pike crew does a much more better than my borg crew against them (twice the probes, around 55k for one repair). I used to tests other borg levels, and i remembered pike crew still does better. But i ll try some 30 again
indigo perch
Then it moved to borg crews. The answer is the same for both. Use the best crew you have, that works best for you. It does not matter that it's not supposed to work.
robust vapor
Actually if you read my comment, it's directly in response to this comment that Chen is only better if you don't suffer a crit, which is objectively wrong @indigo perch
I've never said that you should hunt battleship variants over explorers 🙄
indigo perch
@spiral forge I stay at lvl 30 probes, my sweet spot for now, based on time I want to invest vs reward.
tawdry kindle
Agree with @spiral forge ;
Simply hit 29’s if you want a full load, and hit 33’s if you want a mix of quick & squizing the max out of your possible load...
Pike Moreau Tlaan, period...
earnest hornet
but there are crews that may work, and then there are crews that work better,
robust vapor
You then chime in that I'm wrong, but then dismiss any argument as not being relevant as you shouldn't be hunting battleship variants anyway.
earnest hornet
and yes it is all dependant on what you have at the time, but knowing what crew works best against what makes all the difference
indigo perch
@robust vapor and in the long grind, aka 170+ kills , a single crit, in a single battle, does not affect kills per hull. At best, it will swing total kills for that hull one or two. Not relevant unless your kills per hull are extremely low.
tawdry kindle
Oh for crying out loud @robust vapor , now you’re arguing for the sake of arguing itself 🙈😂
robust vapor
@indigo perch it's irrelevant because Chen is worse without crits, she's just the worse choice there period 😑
earnest hornet
and in a way of teaching, is knowing the why it works, or should work, is like the whole give a man a fish vs teaching him how to fish
indigo perch
@robust vapor with respect to a single battle you are correct and it's relevant, however with respect to a long grind, even though you are still correct, the information is not important for that particular decision.
earnest hornet
plush plinth
Is it unusual to receive Gas rewards on daily events anymore ??
robust vapor
It doesn't make any difference 😑 the only scenario where Chen beats T'laan in the boss separatist battleships is if it's before the first kinetic barrage is fired. That's it @indigo perch 😑
tawdry kindle
Bloody ‘ell; why don’t you lads slap on Pike Tlaan Chen, so that you both can be correct 🤷🏽♂️😋
earnest hornet
😄
indigo perch
@earnest hornet @tawdry kindle an example of something that should work, but doesnt....
earnest hornet
??
indigo perch
@earnest hornet putting both tlaan and chen with pike, should work but doesnt.
earnest hornet
you're arguing over semantics.....
it does work, but depends what you are comparing it too.... theres a difference between should work but doesnt, then it works or a better crew,
tawdry kindle
I never said it would work;
I said it so that you both can be correct, and the both of you can stop spamming here with your arguments to be the better one over the other...
😋😇
indigo perch
@earnest hornet I'm talking about relevant decision making. Ignoring correct information that is not relevant to the decision at hand is a core decision skill set. If the decision is about grinding then #of kills per hull is the only relevant statistic.
earnest hornet
😄 thats why he was explaining the why behind the scenes, so that people can see what to look for, its an option if thats all you have, but yes there are different and better or worse crew combos.
robust vapor
And that's determined by hull health and damage taken..
earnest hornet
yea exactly, noone was saying it wasn't, so understanding the reason why its a better combo,
and its dependant on what you're fighting, thats what the discussion was about
indigo perch
And while yall were sitting there over analyzing, I triple locked.
Twice...because of scopley.
...all without watching a single video or analyzing a battle log
earnest hornet
so you did all that all by yourself, with no info or help from anyone you knew exactly who to use and why???
with no outside help at all??
tawdry kindle
Alright alright, lemme go stir a bit @robust vapor @earnest hornet @indigo perch :
Regarding kinetic and energy, you guys ever thought of it that them guns doing different damage at different levels?
Try hitting lower level battship for example, and then with same crew them higher level battleships;
Enjoy what you will gonna encounter 😋🍺
earnest hornet
its not about analyzing every single battle report or anything, its a little understanding or what to look for, and explaining why
indigo perch
@earnest hornet yes, that has been the big draw for me regarding this game, no walkthroughs. Discovery.
earnest hornet
well then what are you doing here then if you can play with no help from anyone, seems like you know everything you need to play.....
robust vapor
7 kills each. And I didn't watch any videos, or listen to a pod cast. I quickly looked up a firing pattern in LCARS 2.0 and did 1 hit to test the damage difference between energy and kinetic. It took me less time to know T'laan is the superior choice than it takes to get to the system..
indigo perch
Well on my server, the ist day collective knowledge was Chen, chen, chen.. I was the only one that took tlaan...ppl got mad at me for it, but I got results.
earnest hornet
exactly, and so what was it that made you take tlaan??
indigo perch
Chen didnt work as well. I didnt know why, I didnt care. I cared about results.
@earnest hornet because they were interceptors.
earnest hornet
because you saw you got more kills, so what it was explaining earlier was the why it worked better, so understanding the reason why, helps make that informed decision for future, because no every ship fires the same way.....
indigo perch
@indigo perch personal previous experience, my tlaan worked better than chen vs interceptors.
earnest hornet
yea but you walked into the conversation saying that it was wrong, that it didnt matter what was being talked about,
robust vapor
Why are we now talking about interceptors?
earnest hornet
but knowing that the SEPARATISTS fire differently, and showed WHY, and now your saying exactly what we were saying???
robust vapor
The reason T'laan works better is because the battleship has the interceptor firing pattern. And everyone would have said Chen initially because battleships favour energy damage typically; these ones don't 🤷♂️
earnest hornet
thats how people know how to crew their ship, by reading battle reports,
indigo perch
@earnest hornet my point is, as an anecdotal example, "all the knowledgeable players", the whales, insisted Chen is the "one" by the time I saw the "experts" convo, i had already done multiple runs with tlaan.
robust vapor
And firing patterns. I keep telling people to check firing patterns. LCARS 2.0 is a great resource for planning things in that respect.
indigo perch
They were simply wrong, mostly because of power stat worship.
earnest hornet
hahaha just cos theyre whales doesnt make them knowledgable, some of the WHALES may have strong ships, but i have seen players kill whales ships with half the ships strength, because they know how to crew
indigo perch
@earnest hornet exactly.
robust vapor
They're wrong because they would have expected the boss battleship to be the same as a regular battleship. Most people don't look much further than that.
indigo perch
Btw, what was the client update supposed to accomplish?.
earnest hornet
and becasue they were basing it on "normal" battleships where "NORMALLY" using chen is better, but as was trying to be explained, was showing how a simple quick read of a battle report you can tell instantly why tlaan was better.
dapper drum
I find chen is normally not much better against a battleship, if you are using pike moreau combo you are going against something way larger
tlaan has almost always been better choice
robust vapor
Actually the battle report was just to emphasise my point 😋 the firing pattern made the argument in its own.
dapper drum
battleship energy weapons hit like pea shooters but their kinetics don't
earnest hornet
and thats right, it is about trial and error, actually using what works best, no-one is denying that, but it's using the resources available to work out why? can be the difference between killing 50 and killing 500
dapper drum
but on the subject of battlehips, if you aren't aiming for vets, chen with tlaan and moreau (tier3+) is better then any pike combo
robust vapor
@dapper drum Chen is significantly worse in this instance, not even a fair fight. Interceptor firing pattern and what looks about 8x stronger kinetic hits 😬
I haven't tried that one yet, eventually 😴
indigo perch
@dapper drum I need 50 39+per day.
earnest hornet
so trying what SHOULD work, seeing it doesnt...ok why is that, look in the battle report, oh its firing 4 kinetic, ok tlaan would be better. easy.
dapper drum
I need 39 39+ per day
triple faction
I just hit explorers for fed and kling and traders for rom, growing kling and fed upto celebrated
that is when you use chen
no questions about it
earnest hornet
but thats just using tlaan and chen, in a sense thats an easy swap, if one doesnt work then the other is going too. its more when working out other crews thats where learning battle report readin becomes a bit more important
robust vapor
8 kinetic actually@earnest hornet 😋 the thing lets rip.
indigo perch
@dapper drum re state, I want 50 per day,
dapper drum
50 per day is a low goal if you are doing it for parts or bps
you should be aiming for 500/day
earnest hornet
😄 yeah i know it certainly hits hard 😄
indigo perch
@dapper drum building faction creds, actually trying to keep 3 faction reps DOWN close to 10m
earnest hornet
but it was more the fact Colby chimed in saying it was useless information, when in actual fact it can be vital information
indigo perch
@dapper drum I havent even counted those, got most of my intrepid bps in wolf that way.
@earnest hornet please quote me correctly, ...."useless info for THAT one decision ok point. " Absolutely relevant for other decision points, just not THAT one.
indigo perch
@dapper drum so for my 50 is the right number, 25 from the one with the highest faction rep that day and 25 from the next highest. The rest of rep event either through raid or armadas or donation. When I start grinding for rep again I will hit transports.
dapper drum
hands out 🔨's
if you are going for faction dailies and are triple just hit 13 of each faction@indigo perch
earnest hornet
you basically keep arguing that reading battle reports was basically useless, then say oh i meant for that one decision 😄 hahaha wow
indigo perch
@earnest hornet I spend a bunch of post explaining my point, if you dont get it by now, chances are you wont.
sage nova
does anyone know how many points you get for a defense platform in station event
earnest hornet
no i got your point.... but you kept dismissing the fact that knowing how a simple understanding of the battle report, can make a massive difference when understadning what went on in the battle.
indigo perch
@earnest hornet for long grind decisions, yes, useless info, the law of averages and maybe the law of large numbers kicks in.. Better use of time would be analyzing reports on armadas, base hits, and pvp. ....low census encounters.
dapper drum
someone say PvP 😈
robust vapor
Yeah, I gave up already. Either they're trolling or just trying desperately to not look wrong @earnest hornet ironically he doesn't get it, and probably won't 😉
inland hamlet
So they rolled out an update to the login server b4 the update was in the appstore....
Assuming this is an update planned for end of Borg arc.
See they can be proactive....
tawny coyote
Anyone know which event will be rolling out for this weekend?
abstract gate
Military supremacy!
Wishful thinking on my part...nobody knows for sure, could be another 3 days of this 💩 , could be something else...set expectations to dumb
tawny coyote
Faction Hut is my preference. That may be a lot of wishful thinking.
abstract gate
Been sitting on a fully built augur for 2 weeks...Military supremacy is all I want rn
pliant skiff
Anyone think it could be data event?
abstract gate
Data is fine with me...I could do with a few days off
pliant skiff
Haha, I know how you feel
pliant skiff
😭🙈
abstract gate
If data was part of the event vote I would've unironicaly voted for it tbh
robust vapor
Psh, some people on my server have multiple BB, they'd love harder data event I think 😂
And something for me to ignore, perfect weekend event 👍
dapper drum
I just like the fighting that comes with data event
limited nodes everyone trying to compete
its beautiful
robust vapor
Well it's better than the in-fighting that Armadas bring..
dapper drum
they fixed that with the roster selection
robust vapor
You would think 😅
dapper drum
if anyone doesn't get in that thought they would, instead of fighting with everyone they fight with armada leader
tawny coyote
No data mining please. That is on top of the list of bad events.
abstract gate
At least it's a bad event with terrible rewards meaning it's easily ignored
north wraith
Our alliance solved the Armadas issue easy, first ones to call dibs on spots. And during Alliance events we prioritize those who need the points over the ones that already completed their share
abstract gate
Yeah that's great...until you start a 37uc and 4 scrubs yell omw
edgy star
@tawdry kindle
tawdry kindle
Then you have some padewan teaching to do @abstract gate , if your alliances has small fries calling on an 37m one 😋
abstract gate
We prearrange the big ones. We have the first come first served policy too but there's a level of leeway for the host to say nope too low f off
dapper drum
always pre-arrange the big ones, then if others feel left out start a little bit smaller
or get them to start one out of their comfort zone to be helped on
can beat lvl 32 rares with all sallies if everyone runs their designated crews
lvl35 UC and lvl 30 epic
just need a 1.1m avg power, so if someone brings a 1.4m that means someone can bring a 700-800k
winged tulip
Do you mix crews? most of us bring spock/kirk/khan, not really found much better yet
dapper drum
if all sallies you need atleast 2 breechers 1 crit destroyer and 2 damage stackers
winged tulip
We're just at the level of getting a few decent faction 32 ships - 35uc goes pretty well, couldn't get far on 37 uc
dapper drum
2 sallies with decius/khan/carol, 2 with decius,khan,gorkon and 1 with pike moreau and gaila
strongest get carol
mids get gorkon and weakest gets gaila
eager hill
domination is not an event!!
dapper drum
if you are using rares or better you would change things around depending on ship
oooh we got domination?
winged tulip
ugh
dapper drum
🇷 🇦 🇧 🇧 🇱 🇪 🇷 🇦 🇧 🇧 🇱 🇪 🇷 🇦 🇧 🇧 🇱 🇪
fallow cobalt
Is the Bonus Refinery button not working anymore??]
eager hill
looks like it in count down
wise ibex
Domination on a friday night? go duck my sick scope...
wise ibex
@shrewd totem means nothing. (but it seems to work)
full cedar
Just domination on a weekend 👀 who’s smoking what?
south arrow
And crap event great job as always scopley
shrewd totem
We want armada events!
dapper drum
there is time to fix this
give us Darmadas!
domination should always come with armadas
prisma geode
Agree, domination event should never be by itself
abstract gate
Military supremacy!!!!!!!!
wise ibex
give us that nice event withe the „made most dmg“ leaderboard
i like to destroy things
frozen hinge
ça on le sait que tu aimes peter des trucs pour rien
merry fulcrum
YES!!!! Domination!!
upper knot
Armada events are the worst. You have to constantly scan for available armada because they get taken within 30 seconds of spawning. The "bonus" chests are not really a bonus. They just let you open more often without a cooldown.
A bonus armada chest is the same cost and content as a regular armada chest
abstract gate
Super exciting event that engages the player, alliance and server with amazing rewards...
Commanders, please open your wallets as we still have not been able to cover the costs of developing borgmadas
shrewd totem
Yes but right now I have ton of credits I cant use because of cooldown
abstract gate
Just DOMINATE @shrewd totem
shrewd totem
And when you separate your alliance to look in different part of the galaxy it isnt hard to find targets @upper knot
upper knot
It is on my server, extremely hard
winged tulip
Finding targets isn't hard, finding targets that you don't get 3 armadas starting at once on is hard.
shrewd totem
Then you start to fight😈
solid badger
Issue no points on solo milestone
shrewd totem
Which results in massive PvP fights sometimes and it is fun!
Even though it costs $$
upper knot
Not worth fighting for them. Nobody wins in a fight for an armada.
shrewd totem
@solid badger you need to spend officer/ship exp or upgrade/research for domination
solid badger
oops my bad. So used to them being fully connected
shrewd totem
😅
dapper drum
yeah recruit isn't the same as officer event where you get to spend exp
gonna dredd when that one makes it to my server, ship event already been ruined by new one, now got no reason to use ship xp
abstract gate
Uh...scrapyard? And domination events, fully levelling an envoy will complete dom and give you a ship to scrap
merry fulcrum
Scrapyard from mw2 was amazing, I can agree about domination on that map @abstract gate
dapper drum
why would I waste ship xp which i use to save for ship events to build up and scrap my g2, dom you can use manythings
merry fulcrum
No more events that make you spend ship xp @dapper drum
dapper drum
I know, no point accumlating ship xp anymore
and dom was done when I finished officer event
merry fulcrum
Lol
south arrow
Ship exp events are supposed to be coming back
abstract gate
Officer xp events.
Though one might argue that technically Domination is partly an officer xp event. 😅
drowsy viper
Those of you who are angry for domination, have you thought maybe it’s because some people have been 3 days farming and would like one day rest? An event that you can do in 1 minute comfortably it’s a good way to rest from farming like crazy
woven belfry
@abstract gate when/where is that from? I don't remember seeing it can can't find it.
abstract gate
@woven belfry May 6th 2020
From his QnA before Borg Act 4 began.
south arrow
Who couldn’t do the last event in one minute?
abstract gate
Personal best was 14 seconds😄
Well, nothing happening in game, nothing on discord, time for netflix👋
simple spear
Nice. CoW incoming
neat plover
what was CoW about
fresh bramble
And now the pack is gone
bronze laurel
What is CoW? I forgot 🙈
earnest citrus
Crucible of War
fresh bramble
Crucible of war
fresh bramble
Maybe not as the pack is now gone
bronze laurel
Maybe it was a mistake to show us the “preview” 🙈
fresh bramble
Get our hopes up then do domination several times
bronze laurel
Noooooooooo 😂
lone ember
Can we download the iOS update now?
bronze laurel
Just downloaded mine it seems ok
frail ice
how many khan shards do you get from the 2 swarm events at lvl 30?
I'm at lvl 29,and get 5 in total (2 for non heroic, 3 for heroic)
abstract gate
i think it was 5 and 3, swarm event increases every 2 levels
at ops 32 its 7 and 4
frail ice
I see, I don't have a franklin, so planning my upgrade path. I might wait until I have enough to level him up to 10 before I take the plunge
frail ice
and how many swarms do you need to destroy for each event?
formal stag
for ops 32, what is the swarm event like? still 32's? or swarm 35's?
silent horizon
Both. 32s count for 2p, 35s for 10
And to get top rewards for heroic you need to score 375p
waxen vault
If they can organize whole events into folders, why can’t they do it for the store? Good grief. More time scrolling less time playing.
prisma badger
Didn’t I read that race to ops was suppose to happen in May?
Maybe it’ll drop tomorrow?
formal stag
are there brackets for race to ops?
or how are the past rewards usually like?
im at just sitting at ops 30 right now, should i be ops 31 should it ever drop?
vital mortar
@prisma badger God I hope so. Otherwise, I think I'm done with this game
shrewd totem
Didn’t I read that race to ops was suppose to happen in May?
@prisma badger where did you read that?
I dont remember such thing
vital mortar
@shrewd totem I think it was one of the interviews with Panic
shrewd totem
He said soon not May
dire veldt
The one he said would be in May was Jellyfish, don't remember an answer on ops
quiet canopy
why are the rewards for faction hunt so small?
quiet canopy
twice as much sounds nice 😁
dapper drum
the avatar is a common
quiet canopy
i like my tribble borg 😁 what should i do with another avatar
warped stag
4.8k ultra shards, seems decent enough.
quiet canopy
more faction credits would be usefull
dapper drum
think it was a little higher before but I never bother to check 🤣
round spear
10 days ago, in the Borg Extra FAQ News, Scorpley announced the event store would have closed on June 6th
I had taken shots to remember
Luckily my allymates warned me that now they brought it forward to June 2nd
I just wanted to say here that I'm NOT surprised.
I have learned in over 1yr how VERY typical is of Scorpley to change things and deadlines underway, after having announced otherwise
👏 🙄
round spear
That was not my point
silent horizon
Dude, you have plenty of time to use the store. And the timer till the store closes has been there for a while now. If you did not notice it, that is too bad. Stop trying to find a reason for an argument. Had they closed the store earlier, with no before hand knowledge, yes, I would be upset. But since they put that timer there quite a few days ago, I really don’t care when it was supposed to close initially. The sooner the better, as someone already said, it is annoying to trade probes for credits because of it
abstract gate
Has anyone got any idea when the Jelly/Franklin BP events are coming back? I have a couple small players that can really use them.
lapis dust
I want them
pallid plank
@rare scroll is there any hope we will see a ship xp event in the near future?
rare scroll
pallid plank
Some ships are weak as f... but they need tonns of xp each level (Botany Bay for example).
ornate umbra
So I understand I can't get Borg tokens to start the missions until next Borg event, but can I get the Mirror mission tokens still?
wind ice
Was touring with another alliance when crucible of war started, Will I be eligible to get alliance rewards if I go back home or am I automatically ineligible because it already started?
earnest citrus
@wind ice If you change alliances now, you will become ineligible
split lotus
Does anyone know the frequency of faction ships in the store. I'm sure they used to appear with CoW and faction hunt... But nothing..
abstract gate
Come on...this is the perfect time to put up military supremacy event and sell faction ship packs, combined with CoW it's a licence to print money
sonic belfry
👆☝️👆☝️👆☝️👆☝️👆☝️👆☝️👆☝️
winged tulip
Would be nice to add borg to the trophy officer pack too
ancient meadow
How do you get silver badges for the cow thing?
I seriously cannot find them at all
sonic belfry
@ancient meadow - look in the $$ store
ancient meadow
I have and not their either. Borg warfunfs recruitment packs for officers. Nothing cow related.
earnest citrus
@ancient meadow They haven't showed up for me the last few times CoW has run either. I believe it's either level or past-purchase dependent.
ancient meadow
Ah. And since I’m a pure lvl 27 f2p player I don’t see them. Makes sense.
upper knot
Does anyone know if the 6 hour research events at operations 40 give points for spending g4 materials?
dapper drum
always gonna be g2/g3 😈
dapper drum
ahh yeah thats ship sms event
I still have normal research event for power gained
only good switch was research the officer and ship event changes are just money grabs
rewards were nerfed so much and the requirements are just stupid, most who have component to upgrade are way beyond the requirements so they would have to spend to make up the difference to get one upgraded
upper knot
@dapper drum what operations level are you?
wanton cloud
the officer events are money grabs? what? lol
upper knot
The new officer events are awesome!
wanton cloud
the officer recruit events are really easy to complete
upper knot
The research are great also. Spend dilithium to get uncommon crystal, hell yes!
wanton cloud
@upper knot until you get to the point where combat training missions barely give any dil anymore 😛
dapper drum
ops 14 @upper knot
I still have officer xp event so I'm glad
only good new one was the research
the power gained requirement was too far and random and the input to output isn't constant
and I don't have the research 😭
winged tulip
Need an event other than raiding during boring events that gives dil though
wanton cloud
yeah, once you have completed lvl 39 combat training missions, there is no consistent source of dilitium
and research starts requiring a real lot of dil right around the same time 
upper knot
There is a steady stream of dilithium available in unshielded bases
wanton cloud
the same could be said for the other 2 rss
it's not a good reason to not have a regular event that gives dil
winged tulip
If you have a steady stream of unshielded bases on your server can we merge?
jaunty knoll
And once again another crappy crucible event
merry fulcrum
It's a good event, if you've got a active alliance, which sadly, there aren't enough actives around, maybe 2 or 3 alliances on the majority of servers are getting that top milestone
abstract gate
Merge
drowsy viper
You can also farm to compensate for the inactive guys
dapper drum
lol yep just go and kill 10,000 hostiles to make up for the slackers and you can reach first milestone!
assuming you have a g3 rare or better
again scopely penalized smaller players by not allowing all g3 ships to score
winged tulip
Event is popular in our alliance, everyone gets good rewards from alliance packs even if you're low level. Does need a warning before it comes though so you could get things like mergers out of the way before it starts though!
sour vapor
Does anyone know if we are ever getting a raiding event again?
south arrow
Anyone level 40 I have g4 and g3 in packs in alliance event store both same amount seems strange
merry fulcrum
Probably a glitch
I'd just get the 4* lol
80 mil parsteel isn't very useful at ops 40
south arrow
Should be more g4 then
south arrow
What level r u ?
hard tartan
Spiderman is level 41. At level 40, the CoW packs are mixed (at least for me):
- Gas is G3 rare and G4 uncommon
- Ore is G3 only
- Crystal is G4 only
teal jackal
I'm extremely jealous
ruby vortex
Does anyone know what the next event is going to be? Finished crucible for alliance Borg finishes today just curious what the rumors were
abstract gate
Best value pack I ever got was this CoW pack at lvl39.
Did prime gas, prime repair speed, prime mitigation and prime piercing. Had prime crystal and ore but could have done them too, and lack now 45 rare g4 crystal for prime repair cost
Oh, and also got g3 mats, about 260 of each
earnest hornet
I wish they didn’t limit the number of event rewards, rather then being able to only get 2x per g3 pack, I want the crystal
And what was this new mission too that came out after the Borg event finished, I haven’t seen it at all
abstract gate
Awesome job guys...
inland hemlock
@abstract gate, Nowonshall said Prime Defences is still broken/not working.
abstract gate
Its working@inland hemlock but as it is on base values it gives you laughable uptick (dpending on your lvl, research and crew bonus) from 0.1 to 1% in mitigation
inland hemlock
Ewww haha ok thanks
shrewd totem
@abstract gate I dont think it is working.Go check his video,there is 0% increase
abstract gate
It is @shrewd totem 100%.
I had 0.17% increase in mitigation after I have done it. Its based on base values, so its super low
Apologies, 0,167%🤣🤣
robust vapor
I suspect that it's more diminishing returns shenanigans..
shrewd totem
Still it isnt worth the price
abstract gate
Wanted to do prime gas as it was only prime g3 I have not had...
And instead of 40 mil dil I got prime piercing, prime repair speed, prime defences and 1/2 of prime repair costs...
So I am happy with that
But whoever bought prime defenses directlx for 110€ made a huge mistake...would even argue vault of latinum is better value that that
shrewd totem
😂
I would go for prime 3gs instead. Got 2x the amount of stuff I used to get from refinery since I researched gas and ore
abstract gate
Oh, I had prime ore and crystal, but pack had that too in...
vital mortar
Every few days I like to say
Let's do a "race to ops"
That is all
stone grail
prime refines are worth it then @shrewd totem ?
shrewd totem
@stone grail for me yes
I did double everyday for a week and this was the results when I had only gas prime:
129 unc cry
252 unc gas
70 unc ore
20 r cry
4 r ore
Havent tested the ore one yet
That is a nice sample
stone grail
Thats pretty good returns to be fair, if its worth £100 is another matter 🤣
winged tulip
Earlier you buy it the longer it'll be useful for - i bought all 3, definitely got more but it's even more irritating when you get an all-common refine..
weak copper
Only issue with the prime refine packs is they don’t give you the many millions of dil you need to actually do the research.
92 mil dil required for prime ore refining iirc
sharp ibex
I actually had that discussion with CS, and they where right, I forgot about the tokens the pack brought along
in fact, you get more resources then you need to finish the research, except for the G3/G4, that is just enough to get it
weak copper
Ah, hadn’t copped that.
Combat missions are no use to me atm. Have done the level 41 captain and can’t do level 42’s till I get to Dark Space.
prisma geode
The combat missions decrease the amount of dill they give you after level 40. Pretty much a dill famine at level 39+.
I will hit just about any station for 1M dill.
winged tulip
Yep, used to be trit i'd raid my grandmum for, now i'm overflowing with trit from events and lacking dil
weak copper
And as someone else mentioned recently that dil drop off seems to happen right when you get to a point where every research requires more of it than previously.
merry fulcrum
@winged tulip want me to take some off your hands?
winged tulip
You're welcome to try, most have given up when they realise i'm pretty much always either shielded or online 😆
ruby vortex
@winged tulip do u know how many times I’ve heard that same statement 😂 and a good raider will always finds what he needs dil tri and everyone has steel just gotta hunt
south arrow
Dill and trit are easy to get but level 38+ you can never raid enough par
dapper drum
3 months thats low returns
should have tripled batched
would of made it in one month
winged tulip
I'm at ops35 at the moment - i'll happily raid all 3 but it's dil that i'm nearly empty on, without breaking open the token supply. Par i've just about run out of things to spend it on without pushing ops, trit i'm getting millions from events, it's just dil that takes some effort to raid..
floral trail
Dil is a pain, I usually rely on hostile captains but it gets to a point where they are no longer possible without sinking lots of res on ships
main gazelle
I’ve already redeemed x2 crystal/Trit packs
however the timer will reload before the event is over, does this mean I could grab 2 more if I wait until the last few hours?
Little skeptical since it does say Limit 2x Event
floral trail
Hmm I am not sure @main gazelle. I just spent mine on the Crystal and Rare directives. 🤷🏽♂️
main gazelle
Hmmm guess I’ll find out in 1d 22hrs ✌🏼
spiral forge
you will only have 3 hours so dont miss the clock
winged tulip
Last time we had the event i was able to buy the officer utility pack twice, didn't try on the alliance store packs though.
south arrow
Yes you should be able to get two more packs
south arrow
I bought 4 crystal places last time
dapper drum
and does every description in the game actually mean what it means @sharp ibex
sharp ibex
it does, but sometimes, coding can be wrong, and instead of working as intended, it works as expected (expected by the players, buggy and faulty)
brisk jolt
I have not spend all the Borg War Funds, will there be any other events which I can use it?
brisk jolt
Alrigthy 👍👍
nova valley
ahhh i hate that. i even sent an @ everyone reminder warning on S15 discord to remind everyone to spend them. i hate that you've got them leftover.
brisk jolt
I rarely reviewed the event store, that's my fault. Anyway I got my free Dvor nonetheless
nova valley
good!
rich grove
@main gazelle you can get it 3 times, timer will reset again after you get the 3rd one, at least that's what happened last time
@sharp ibex how about the max 8 transwarp things? Oh wait I have 9 sitting in my inventory
shrewd totem
You can get it 2 times then cooldown is 2 days 20ish hours
Not sure why it isnt 3 days🤔
sharp ibex
@rich grove thats coz you pickup at 7 😛
shrewd totem
Not many benefits from it anyway.you need to finish CoW in less than 4 hours to buy more than 2 of the same pack
sharp ibex
well, my cooldown would be just enough to make it
coz if I am not mistaken, the 'shop' stays open 1 day extra after event
shrewd totem
Not during CoW
sharp ibex
1day 19 hours remaining on the boxes
so yes, they do
both in recruit and alliance
ok, this sux, I checked an armada station,, it was free, I restarted the client and checked, still free, I start a rare amada against it and suddenly another armada pops up being like a minute going already
ok, I got the rare directives for free, but still
cmon
a few seconds difference, I could have understood and accepted, but this difference, thats outright shamefull to be possible
drowsy viper
It’s a bug where the system shows ships and mines but not armada banners @sharp ibex
sharp ibex
yeah, kinda makes sense knowing how bad the render engine acts up sometimes
labelless flights are a common thing for me
drowsy viper
I don’t know what triggers the refresh, sometimes waiting 10-15 sec works but one time I think I waited 30sec, posted in alliance chat, checked again and there was an armada going for 2-3 min
sharp ibex
and based on the bugreports I saw, armada code is flawed causing client issues
drowsy viper
Luckily the other guy saw it and didn’t start...
sharp ibex
it's part of the reason for lag in this game
sonic belfry
@sharp ibex - you’re talking like you’re a Scopely employee...is there something you want to confess?
sharp ibex
I wouldn't be able to survive a week in that company and quit
you know me tc 😛
my resignation letter would be a 💩 on javiers or walters desk
sonic belfry
I know, but you keep coming up with insider information...
sharp ibex
nah, that information comes from analytics performed myself
i told em about it, but feedback 0 as usual
frail ice
is there a command to see the rewards for the race to ops30 event?
quiet wasp
<@&509691205798592532> Any update on when a bonus refinery will be?
abstract gate
Nope, sorry
quiet wasp
@abstract gate Military supremacy? You guys are killing me here...
abstract gate
Nope, sorry, nothing has been confirmed at this time
But maintenance is coming, so something is definitely coming soon
Bugs?
Pfff... Like we need maintenance for that 🤣🤣🤣
Ok...new bugs then😄
Hoping for exicting, new content.
Preparing for dumpster fire.
Expecting small cosmetic changes.
I'm hoping not cosmetics this time 🤣🤣🤣
Even bigger font on our buttons👍
I wouldn't complain about that 🤣🤣🤣
But, being serious for moment...who in right mind thought fixing missclicks and repairing your ship instantly with latinum should and could be solved with ugly, grandma friendly font instead of "are you sure"
They do 10 good changes and then they eff it up so badly with these kind of things...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm certain their design team has their reasons
Lazyness
Or perhaps it is like chess, we can make this work if we sacrifice this and that
shrewd totem
🤔
abstract gate
Exactly my point
I'm certain there are aspects of it we didn't consider
Borg arc 4...I think majority will say it was baaaad....
But we got converter, we got good event store, we had PvP event that was fun, amazing alliance rewards with independent credits...
So, a lot of good things, and then they come with 9 day long borgmada and eff up everything....everything
Yeah. That was baaad as hell
@median slate as for accidentally buying those packs, CS is issuing refunds as far as I know.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Personally I think entire pvp combat should be reworked
Because this one is just bad
And after that, make new events that would utilise those reworks
Doing it like this is pointless
I honestly dont need "balance" for PvP.
Whale paid 100k for his ship, let him kill everything...
Want to kill that whale...spend 100k...or play smart and put klaa and make him catch you
For me, its just absurd to think that your Golf MkII should be able to compete with LaFerrari.
You got Mk II....be smart and find other Mk II or Golf I or heck kill poor Opel Kadett guys
We can, however, talk about exponential power growth where 5 mil ship can kill 376 other 1.4 mil ships before it finally goes down...that, in my view, is where game needs more balance
tawny olive
I really wish they sent out a message warning everyone in a chat broadcast message that the server was going down 💩
abstract gate
And when making parralel with cars...
Just make two different kinds of PvP:
- Free for all - bring your best ship and hope it better than others
- Heavily bracketed PvP - t7 D3 rumble....you got to have t7 D3 in order to compete
tawny olive
Looks like the Aug event is today
drowsy viper
What’s about? Mining data?
abstract gate
Haha, with fixed nodes?
tawny olive
Idk. Rev deuce is the one who talked to the devs and they said Augs would be next
@abstract gate Good luck with them fixing nodes... Got some in my server that has been broken for months
shrewd totem
🤔
tawny olive
Even had some that were removed from morska
winged tulip
If you want PVP events make the rewards worth it. The events they did were only worth the repairs when using t1 ships..
tawny olive
They just started giving out tritanium again, so I ain't going to complain
How long is this maintenance supposed to last?
winged tulip
Found a base with 40m dil last night, i'm happy enough!
rough frost
@abstract gate they can also fix barot... 25% lost Hull per hit, would deter griefer attacking 200k miners with 4 million jelly
Well pretty sure it's barot 🤔
winged tulip
Both do their ability against 'base' ship health afaik, which is useless
sage oriole
Nice event if u cant attack npc👌 good job scope. Every good company would do things like that without events but no lets do it like scope and loose more and more active players
versed prism
void coyote
Best reward ever 👍
jade dirge
I couldn't even accept it. Desperately need 1 ps
dense wolf
Yo. Scopely you broke Augment space. None of the nodes has resources to even last a minute being mined.
south arrow
Working as intended 🤣
viscid dock
I need 8s to mine a node. What's the problem?
Feels more engaging than before
Staring 5 minutes on my ship was no fun
abstract gate
Don’t know about your servers, but at ours you needed to watch your yarda node anyway
viscid dock
Ofc. Here as well. But at least you do something during mining
Not just watching at a number which feels like an eternity.
A big BB and 10of10 helps ofc
abstract gate
Yep I agree. Got two full loads just now in about an hour. Bar events, now done for a week and a half
vital mortar
I keep freezing on nodes. Can't reset cause it says I'm still occupying the node. Restart the game. Still happening. Restart, clear cache, fixes the problem for about 5 minutes but then, back to the same.
7sec to drain a node in yarda is just silly
dapper drum
no point mining in yarda anymore
just catch people going opc in 5 minutes
catch a dozen of them you are good for a week
just act like you are mining and run an offensive crew on your BB
vital mortar
Our server won't support PvP hits in yarda...
Either way, scopley, maybe fix the problem?
warped stag
Working as intended
vital mortar
Lol
dapper drum
yarda has changed alot of SoP are going to change
and regardless I'm still looting people
abstract gate
@dapper drum I think you're wrong there, with shortcut warp paths and such speed to m8ne most will mine to pc limit warp and return. You can just park a strong warship there to take care of aggro....1hr of that is a weeks worth of data
dapper drum
most people don't have high PC
I saw dozens of ships running 200k+ opc shortly after update
at 2m an hour you hit OPC fast
people don't want to be decoying every 5 minutes with another ship
abstract gate
Can get up to 93k pc on my bb...each run is a days worth + extra
dapper drum
yeah but then you have no other good miners for g3
putting all your protected cargo officers into 1 ship to mine data
abstract gate
Pfft my g3 dailys take 1hr30 and that covers 2x12k refines of each...I don't need to mine g3 24/7...nobody does
All my g3 miners have 25k+ pc without officers too so I'm covered no matter what
dapper drum
I mine 40k nodes
I don't sit on 18k nodes always refreshing every hour
g3 is more important than data
data I barely ever have to mine I just loot it
and today was especially nice I could have looted millions but I hit one at 200k and warped
abstract gate
Neither do I...I get in, get 25k and get out...better things to do with my day than manage miners for an excess I don't need
dapper drum
you need excess if you want to run triples twice a day
only way to get free 1000+ g3 per week
vital mortar
I know it's allot to ask for these updates to work correctly the first time around. This game is obviously just a hobby to scopley as a venture and they must be to busy at their "real jobs" to test content fully to assure their coding doesn't effect the player base.
I get it. It's a new quarter since the Borg payout. Whales are going to dump cash regardless. Gotta keep the shareholders happy and that g5 gassed and ready to go any time but dang... Harry Mudd drop and we over here mining data?!
abstract gate
Last I checked scopely isn't issuing paychecks...until they do I refuse to make this game a second job
dapper drum
well I'm not paying to progress
and you check in every 2 1/2 hours for 5 minutes
not a job
vital mortar
I don't check in with my chick that often... And she's a job bro.
This is like having an 8yr old. Every hour or so, you gotta make sure your good and no one's dead or anything
flat lake
active mining ie reset node every 7 seconds was intended?!?! wow, bad idea IMO, that is one way to keep people out of augment space
abstract gate
Takes less than 5mins to get enough data for top credit conversion (71k) plus 5min either side for travel...massive abundance of nodes too...where's the problem?
I can make 4 full protected cargo runs in 1hr which will last for 5 days...lb events will probably still have a negative impact but outside of events aug mining just became viable again imo
candid goblet
@twilit imp any idea if they plan to increase data node sizes soonest? Really would make a lot of players happier
abstract gate
It's been live 5hrs ffs...give it a chance before you declare it 💩 ffs...I like it, you can get a days worth of data in less than 5mins
dapper drum
return the nodes to their size! #nodesizematters
slow delta
How about giving us an extra day of COW? We're since this morning without being able to kill hostiles, how the hell are we gonna keep trying to get the event done?
flat lake
"my" issue is i am active when killing reds, dont make me get carpal tunnel resetting nodes every 7 seconds. that adds no value or fun to the game
abstract gate
Hi all someone know wher is Yarda mission please.
flat lake
@abstract gate it will be at the planet in the system, that just starts the unlocks for travel. Aug missions is bought in the faction augment section
abstract gate
@flat lake Thanks
elfin meteor
Are they going to fix the lag in points being added
haughty swallow
Omg why start the new event before the old one finishes??
So any new member we get now won't qualify for new event??
Why do you do this to your players scopely???
light pumice
Where are the other augment unlock paths? I did the missions from the faction store already
hollow fossil
On planets in augment space
light pumice
Ok. Thanks. When event starts or now available?
hollow fossil
I was able to do them already
light pumice
Thanks for the help. Found them.
queen geyser
Have the devs and scopely lost their minds with these new nodes
hazy warren
The corrupted data nodes are crazy small. The biggest one I could find is only 500
formal stag
thoughts on mudd officer?
hollow fossil
Have to go into the higher systems for bigger quantities
neat plover
only 750 data at the nodes? What gives
civic furnace
<@&509691205798592532> @twilit imp question: the Premium rewards pack. Are there more than Just the ten milestones we see? If yes, can we buy them in the end and claim all, after seeing the other rewards? Or is that It?
I ask because they are pretty trashy.... 👀
gaunt vessel
while I appreciate the intent here for mining changes in augment space, this is ridiculous. Now we can't do anything else while we mine because we have to just keep mindlessly clicking back and forth. This also feels like quite a punishment for buying a second BB that I can't use now because it's so high touch two ships is just a workout on the fingers clicking constantly. Combine that with the nodes ghosting themselves with ships that aren't there, this isn't very fun.
shrewd totem
I ask because they are pretty trashy.... 👀
@civic furnace whatttt
That pack is one of the best if you can finish all 10 milestones
Have you even tried to click on each milestone?
shrewd totem
There is more than 1 item per milestones 🤣
civic furnace
And yes, they are the best
shrewd totem
It is like the premium pack during Borg Arcs
civic furnace
Yep
gaunt vessel
at the very least the aug mining now highlights how bad the ingame notifications are as aug mining just spawns an endless display of notifications
gaunt vessel
why? you can't do anything else while you mine now
great but you can only do mining then. At least even with hostile hunting you usually have 10 seconds or so betwween each hostile but a T9 BB with furball clears yarda nodes in 5 seconds so i cant do anything other than babysit
shrewd totem
Meh.I prefer mining 5 mins then doing other stuff instead of mining for hours while doing other stuff
civic furnace
Even faster
shrewd totem
@inner bear #509679626763632642
gaunt vessel
I was already getting 200k in ~35 minutes prior. And it took minimal effort. Now sure it's faster but it's the only thing you can do at the time
shrewd totem
Of course not everyone is same so I would actually prefer to have mix of nodes. Have big slow nodes and small fast nodes
civic furnace
Oh good too
gaunt vessel
and going back to my other point. I bought a 2nd BB a while back and now what am i supposed to do with it
inner bear
Dead game
gaunt vessel
ive wasted a bunch of RSS on it because now it's basically pointless, thanks?
shrewd totem
You can still mine twice fast with 2 BBs but will take more effort
gaunt vessel
feel bad for the people that bought 2 extra BBs as you really can't do anything with 3
and now I've ghosted my 4th node today that I can't get back on because I'm "on it" already
again, I appreciate the attempt to try something new but this is not a positive change imo
shrewd totem
Broken nodes,I agree it is annoying and needs to be fixed. But the new changes to data mining is okay not best but not the worst. Just will take time to get used to it
Best way would be to have both type of nodes IMO as I stated earlier but I can understand if that was too hard for them to do
oak terrace
Anybody know why decoded pays out one point vs corrupted data 3.... shouldn't it be the other way around or is it a typo 1 instead of 10
gaunt vessel
5th node broken now, GD
shrewd totem
@oak terrace because you can mine decoded a lot faster and node size is bigger while uncorrupted is very small and slower
neat plover
So how many times do you have to reset to max the data mining event? Several thousand?
oak terrace
Gotcha thanks flipping everything on its head with this Arc I see
gaunt vessel
at lvl 33 I have to mine 804k to max the extraction event so 218 resets to max. You can cut off a lot tiering up a BB but that's pretty useless for those of us already max'd and no incentive to get more
shrewd totem
@neat plover a few hundred
plucky ermine
I tried mining on 3 yarda nodes - after resetting them a couple of times they are bugged.
simple spear
Decoded only 1 point 😭
uneven dove
So mining 750000 with 3500 mines?
So need to refresh for 200!!! Times
which OCD suffering idiot designed this?
Owh. So battle pass gives some shards and useless resources tokens?
Which cannot be used without UNC!!!!!!
gaunt vessel
lets not call people names or insinuate intelligence levels. They tried something new, just give your feedback
rough frost
Anyone have a problem with the solo data event?....
Meaning no solo data event 🙈
slate crest
So when are they making the nodes bigger..yes bigger not smaller...cockwombles
gaunt vessel
concisely mine is I'm not happy. I have more than one BB and now this feels like a punishment after spending actual money and a lot of ingame RSS and I no longer have any incentive to get a third or fourth for mining events like I did prior. So punishment and de-incentivized. That's how I feel about the change. Throw in the mining bugs we are all seeing now, even worse.
shrewd totem
@rough frost yeah I also dont have the event 🤔
rough frost
🙈🙈🙈🙈
@shrewd totem I have it but seems some of my alliance only have leaderboard. They have bb and op 30 + so no reason...
tardy salmon
Am I reading that correctly, more points for corrupted than decoded?
Or is that supposed to be 10?
tardy salmon
Their fix, instead of adding more nodes they made it to where the existing nodes cycle insanely fast
Plus they dropped down the amt you can get insanely fast... which us ridiculous
soft tulip
how in the world are you guys managing to break this game every single event ? are you sending your programmers to special training to keep breaking i t?
tardy salmon
@shrewd totem are the points for the alliance leaderboard supposed to be 1 for decoder and 3 for corrupted?
shrewd totem
Yep
civic furnace
@uneven dove i made the same mistake. Click on rewards on battle pass. There are more
tardy salmon
Sounds counterintuitive
rough frost
There were always more points for corrupt than decoded in every event
shrewd totem
Decoded is faster to mine+ bigger nodes
rough frost
As decoded is mine faster than corrupted
shrewd totem
So in reality you get more points by mining decoded
merry fulcrum
Why are the nodes so small?
soft tulip
Why are the nodes so small?
@merry fulcrum Scopely trying to find new ways to piss off players
rough frost
To make people talk here instead of mining
near belfry
The tiny nodes make this a miserable event
Always gotta be something shitty when they fix something good lol
merry fulcrum
And... Mining 400k data a day
pliant yarrow
1 point per decoded data? really? stupid
near belfry
Having to sit and refresh every 14 seconds is painfully dull
fringe owl
Any word on why some people have a data mining solo event and some don't?
broken zephyr
Because they can’t figure out how design a decent event
tulip holly
If the event was to encourage more data mining, it is an Epic fail. 804k event target on 3.5k nodes could only be developed by someone that clearly does not play the game.
shadow reef
That Update is one of the most epic fail. That encourages me to take 7Day shield and to say goodbye for a week.
dapper drum
do eet
vocal narwhal
@twilit imp Whats the word on people not seeing the solo mining mission? If I got to mine 800k + at 3700 a pop this needs to be fixed sooner rather than later
worldly pond
The worst event.......new officers are eh.......instead of listening and fixing the game, they throw more worthless officers at us.......it's not a job and switching out a node every 8 seconds is silly
worthy roost
Where are the daily Reputation Events? Mine are missing
[UPDATE] Never mind. I had to reboot twice and it took 45 minutes after they should have, but they have finally showed up.
wanton ingot
Sorry I maybe repeating something, but is anyone having an issue with the Dats SLB not showing up for them?
severe bridge
I like how SIX independent credits is what they chose as a reward...
lapis harbor
This is stupid
uneven dove
@uneven dove i made the same mistake. Click on rewards on battle pass. There are more
@civic furnace yes I noticed 2
rapid dagger
And the game makers go a all time low and make a event pay to play🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
neat plover
Anyone able to test the new officers yet? Will I be shocked to discover they actual work, and have no bugs?
abstract gate
No idea yet
slim crow
This mining event sucks. I’m resetting the node every few seconds. Change the nodes back.
winged tulip
Trollolol
lone ember
No! This update is dumb and the worst I have ever seen in term of mining! 😠 if you can bring the nodes back to what it was before, but keep the fast mining, I think it will work best for all!
inner bear
Have to make multi million donations
fringe owl
I just wish I'd get the mining event...
winged tulip
Maybe thats why they keep adding event stores where you can only buy units one-by-one - apparently clicking is fun
inner bear
Trash
neon badge
So my mining rate is now 1.4mil.. but the nodes are reduced to nothing... Is scopely just torturing players for shits and giggles now?
abstract gate
Does stealing Data from other ships count for the event?
ripe axle
Any word on missing solo data extraction event?
modest thistle
This event is terrible...FIX THE DATA NODES!!!
abstract gate
@ripe axle not yet
@abstract gate no
@neon badge negative, it was their intention to make mining more interactive
neon badge
I see, execution def needs work lol
modest thistle
So the nodes are staying this way? I have to reset every 6 seconds, and after 4 resets my ship is stuck on the node.
candid goblet
Please tell me what is enjoyable about have to collect 700k points worth of data and only be able to collect 2.5k of data and have to refresh every 6 seconds? This is not an improvement in active mining, this is non stop refresh clicking and extremely annoying to players
winged tulip
@abstract gate Has it been fed back to devs yet that their idea of interactive mining isn't quite appreciated by the player base?
abstract gate
@winged tulip not yet, we are still trying to figure out if people actually like this.
Player base is heavily divided on this
Need more data, thinking of doing a pool in 2 days when everyone tries it
Because most people are hating it for the sake of hating the new thing
candid goblet
If the Data Nodes were 200 - 500k it would be awesome
fringe owl
I could try it better if I had solo events...
abstract gate
@fringe owl that has been reported. Ids have been sent, we are waiting on devs to find the issue behind it
winged tulip
I'd have thought the split is people foremost either liking the increased speed or hating the low node size. Both changes together are divisive, one at a time would be pretty clear. I can't even type this without refreshing a node twice 😦
eager hill
does "active mining" mean, do nothing else but jut keep refreshing node? how could this make the game better in any sense!
abstract gate
@eager hill yes, same as hunting reds
fringe owl
TY @abstract gate. Let's hope one of them mistakes it for a no cooldown refinery glitch.
abstract gate
@winged tulip I understand, but the idea and concept behind is more player engagement. Speeds are amazing, but node size is terrible.
Especially on Undecoded data
worthy condor
I like the data node sizes and speed. Much more focused when mining and it goes quick
eager hill
player: no event is worse than data mining, not even Domination
Scopely: hold my beer 😂
abstract gate
See? 🤣
shrewd totem
Some likes it some dont just like anything else in the game
It is an okay change,not best not the worst
abstract gate
Yeah, but usually it is very clear if something is more hated than not... This time not so much
small lichen
Terrible decision to decrease the nodes to such a level, I have spent time and money on the BB x2 max, now it's a joke ship and a chore to use it. Worst mining event to date. ☹☹☹
eager hill
node size is just not ok even 10k node size would had been kinda ok. could had given time to atleast refresh another node or kill a hostile in a switch
winged tulip
Every other time i refresh it tells me i'm already on the node. Turns a 7 second mine into 1 minute to warp away and back or find a spare node bugged my someone else 😦
shrewd totem
That is only because everyone is trying to do the same thing
Mine data,refresh node,mine again
winged tulip
Kind of a bad idea to create an event to encourage it then?
shrewd totem
Too much load on servers,should calm down tomorrow probably
When they tested it,it was probably okay since those test environments doesnt have 1kish players IMO
winged tulip
Not hard to create a load test environment /shrug
shrewd totem
It is like the swarms missions
Where all of server had to kill dozens of hostiles in same system
inland mural
Omg scopely, who was it that okd allowing nodes to be mined in a matter of seconds? When game and internet connection can not keep up with it!!! I mine a low node every 10 seconds and mine it 5/6 times before it says I'm permanently mining node and it's on zero!!! I've pretty much mined entire system!!! 😞 Please sack the person or persons that thought this was a good idea 🙏🙏🙏 I'm mining data event/nodes by the way but I doubt I need to explain that 😠😠😠
jade merlin
Scopely why do you always give with one hand yet take away with another?! 🤣🤣
rancid juniper
Hello, i have no data solo event. 😳 i am lvl 39
vocal narwhal
Welcome to the club. Been waiting on @twilit imp to respond about it
abstract gate
@rancid juniper already reported to devs, they are working on it