@proud solar yes can we help you?
#🏆-event-chat
gusty rose
proud solar
Sorry, was attempting humour 🤦🏻, my bad🙏🏻😇
compact citrus
bonus refinery!
steady scaffold
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nova valley
goooooood morning
sweet kiln
Why is "Steal Latinum" a part of this event, it allows people to cheat and just trade kills for points
need to make losing latinum = losing points a part of the steal or it allows so much cheating
merry fulcrum
No, that's stupid
That's for free to plays who can't mine lat, because not everyone can get a dvor
nova valley
Yeah, some people may be able to trade kills, but it's not nearly as easy, and they could only trade 2 or 3 times before they lose it all to pcl or too large a ship. it's not feasible.
i relied on the steal event yesterdya cause i got started so late...
i didn't have time to mine it all so i had to steal some. and i don't normally hit opcl latinum. i even messaged "sorry, don't normally hit, but got a late start, so i am just hitting for points" most people were pretty cool about it. besides, opcl is opcl... period.
south arrow
And look no event again great job as always scopley sucks
pearl parcel
Only events are the ones that make scoply money.
meager galleon
Cannot please everyone. Personally I think this fits the natural order of how they do things
We had a really great event imo with the modified Faction Hunt that lasted a nice amount of time - really stocked up on XP and got good amount of credits
Now we had the usual Sunday and Monday event and now it’s a couple days down time most likely over New Years Eve/Day and then they’ll likely go again
meager galleon
I concur, Domination is in need of a major overhaul. But I’d still rather it was there than nothing at all
south arrow
It is nothing
meager galleon
Hmm December was pretty good? Had Separatist event, two different event Stores etc
south arrow
I’m averaging events not just the last 6 weeks but over the last while
I don’t consider those stupid stores events
meager galleon
😔
abstract gate
Lol
Aside from the armadas it's been a good run of events, very grindy though so a few days rest is actually appreciated...don't like domination? Don't bother with it
royal horizon
Nothing to do, lol, bored out of my mind
nova valley
it's good to see @abstract gate being happy! lol happy new years brother!
but yeah, compared to the first 6 months, i think scopely gets a gold star for the last few months. it's not perfect, but it's a vast improvement. what blows my mind is the number of players who play this game, but have nothing but complaints.
with all due respect @south arrow aren't games supposed to be fun? if you're not having fun, why are you here? lol
and i don't mean that snotty or disrespectfully, i'm being genuine. why spend time and money on something that aggravates ya? lol there's soooo many other options out there.
abstract gate
When scopely f up I'm among the first to call them on it, when they do good I recognise that too. I'm an even handed grump
south arrow
Mostly because of my alliance
nova valley
I know @abstract gate that's why i'm impressed with your comments today! lol
well i'm sorry you have such a miserable time int he game @south arrow and again, it's hard to demonstrate i'm being sincere, but i am. alliance or not, i wouldn't play if i was in a constant state of dissatisfaction lol
meager galleon
Farming Modulators or farming faction rep and also doing some raiding|scouting for a few hours or more is easily an option
south arrow
Did I say I was in a constant state of unhappiness playing this game
nova valley
i beleive you said you've been satisfied once in the last 6 weeks lol
or did i get that wrong?
south arrow
Please read my comments properly before u reply because that’s not what I said
sweet kiln
yeah id take any hostile killing event over domination
ones over christmas were nice but i feel like one day a week we need a normal or faction hostile kill event just like the swarm ones
modern estuary
pearl parcel
I agree we have had good events lately. But there should be an event every day that has something for people to do. Kill hostels, mine, armada, anything to keep the game exciting.
nova valley
lol like dailies? hahahaha i'm teasing of course, but lol there are dailies.
languid cove
Wars start when events are lame
dreamy hearth
Any word on any upcoming events where you can get D'Vor BP's?
abstract gate
Crappy events we bitch, too few events we bitch, too many events we bitch, good events...yeah we're gonna bitch about those too because...reasons
It's New year guys, be glad for a break from the grind and enjoy a night off
proud solar
Is a dance, 2 steps fwd one back, twirl, misstep pirouette, trip leap & land... Pays to be nimble of mind & manner 🤣😂🤣 I enjoy the ride, roller-coaster style.. 🖖😎🍻
teal jackal
I want to see a dual event: mining and PvP. That would be epic.
dapper drum
you mean call to arms
teal jackal
No. I mean one event where people have to mine. And one event where you kill other players. At the same time.
gloomy shore
raw zenith
No @teal jackal just no lol
abstract gate
Yes, absolutley yes...lets see how real and strong these RoE are
granite zenith
they have done it b4
pulsar hound
I think they only did it once, but their were open nodes everywhere
shrewd totem
Yea we had an event like that once in the past
elfin meteor
languid cove
All of them have incredibly timid abilities
knotty birch
And some no abilities at all which does not bode well!
cedar echo
Hey, Jaylah didn't have abilities when she was introduced half a year ago and look at her now! 😉
Harrison, Tal and Kuron have been in the list for about a year.
warped stag
Tal was briefly available in the mirror event but got pulled due to him bugging.
cedar echo
Harrison was also available for a single event and never returned.
eager hill
BfG 8 hour timer now increased to 24hours. no more complaining about extra tokens anymore 🤣 Can get only 185 tokens per day and max spend per day is 400.
uneven dove
Why is the level 28 top target kill 80!!!! Ships and for level 31 and up only 40!???
south arrow
Battle for glory is a great event would be amazing if it went back to every 8 hours like it used to be
uneven dove
But with equal difficulty please
mild bluff
do ticket in game scopely trap all event, swarm sunday trap, battle glory trap what next ?
exotic plover
Cleanup isle Scopely Update
abstract gate
Bfg, ty 👌 anyone asked for the recruit timer to be removed yet?...
No...really...remove the 24hr cd
uneven dove
Or just add the slider on recruitments so you can open all with a few simple clicks
dense lantern
Nice, 4 days of killing hostiles and no tritanium rewards for ship repairs ....
All these officers i'm getting are gonna have no ships to fly
glacial sail
I would like to be able to buy more than 1 shield at once:/
cedar echo
Battle for Glory is now less stressing with 24h timer, but they forgot to increase goals and prizes from the 8h one...
silent horizon
Yea, I don’t think we can have it both ways. 3xthe cooldown, and also 3xthe rewards. Either a 24h cooldown with 1/3 of original rewards, or 3x8 h cooldown.
hexed needle
Anyone ask the mods if the 24 hr timer was intentional?
shrewd totem
@hexed needle it is
uneven dove
Probably the same with the unfair difficulty difference
cedar echo
I don’t think this event gets repeated. Our lvl 40s are fuming. They feel they can’t take part when 43s that give 20 points can’t be reached with Enterprise and Jellyfish 2 kills only 5 lvl 43s before dying. With a 2 million tritanium repair cost.
rapid sky
2M is cheap... did any of them got the new faction miner? 😂 😂
rapid sky
Yep... for a T2 one
shrewd totem
Probably a bug in repair cost research
rapid sky
To be fair even with research etc. applied it would be too much
And base is 92M as per LCARS so I guess it all applies correctly more or less
rapid sky
Maybe there is/will be a G4 repair research that starts at 1000% 😂 😂
shrewd totem
Need to check.Maybe they have a prime research for that 🤔
abstract gate
Nope, no bug...and no research to make it less...just plain shameless greed...
cedar echo
18M trit is kinda ok, just around 1000 hours of tritanium mining for a single repair.
abstract gate
they need to change the mining of dilithium, steel and trit as the latinum mines as well
higher areas should be more increased
also the bonus mining for dili / trit / steel for the specific ships should increase more
or make research available for it
and maybe add specific protected cargo capacity for mining trit with envoys... steel fortunates and dili with horizons
also already mentioned once they should implement more stuff in the Augment store... like temporary mining buffs which you can buy wiht credits
or with data mined
8 hour buff of 100% in trit mining (bronze or so), silver is 500% and gold is 1500%... just some numbers
but yeh.. get the idea :p
carmine lily
@eager hill it's scaled by level, higher level players get way more tokens. It's loaded to favor the whale alliances. This event and the last one are terrible for alliance leaderboards because there's literrlly no way to compete, higher levels just get more and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.
raw zenith
@abstract gate galaxy research has buffs for all rss and mat mining
There is also research to boost protected cargo
abstract gate
i know that.. but its not sufficient @raw zenith
granite zenith
🤷♂️
plucky pecan
@shrewd totem cool down intentional... which is why I have 3500 left from past events, you cannot spend them all unless you hit the 24 he mark perfectly every time...
raw zenith
It’s what you have @abstract gate I mean the research significantly speeds up mining.
abstract gate
I dont think it is sufficient if your repairs are 18 million... :p
raw zenith
Whose repairs are 18m
And they would never increase mining rates to a point that mining 18m would be quick
hardy parcel
They should do something with the mining rates though. At higher levels it's just pointless even trying to mine a useful amount of parsteel, tritanium or dilithium
An increased rate in high warp systems or a g3/g4 miner with higher rates would be a good solution
raw zenith
If they made changes it would prob be to event rewards
hardy parcel
Probably. Not that I agree with that approach. Be nice to make mining resources actually viable again imo
raw zenith
And part of the reasons for some rates are to slow progression so everyone isn’t sitting at lvl 50
The game is supposed to be a slower progression not rapid
hardy parcel
They did put the brakes on to try and slow progression but with g4 released hopefully some of that will be relieved.
Yeah I get that, but 3 months for one level is a bit much
raw zenith
I camp at levels. I never upgrade until I heave research maxed. Combat and station that is and bps for at least one of the ships at the next positive ops level
buoyant python
What happened to Domination through January 12?
raw zenith
I also make sure I have mats necessary to get that ship to a viable tier immediately
hardy parcel
Yeah, but that is choice. You still need to have progression otherwise there is no point playing.
raw zenith
Yea I’m not in a hurry. I set goals. Current goal is to have all faction 28 ships before I go to 29. Then camp at 29 until I have at least one faction miner
hardy parcel
Yeah, that's viable in the 20s. In the 30s it's nearly impossible. You say camp but you wont be at one level more than a month or two.
I had to camp at 33 for 4 months
And I still haven't done all the research. The uncommon requirements are crazy
graceful shard
I find the parsteel reqs are worse than the UC at 33+
I have 1000 of each UC but only 17m par
reef adder
so i guess my endgame means staying at 31
graceful shard
I find myself scraping lower level zones for parsteel
olive rover
I'm in a UC bottleneck more than anything right now 🤷
reef adder
yeah, think we are just delaying the inevitable lol
hardy parcel
Mine has moved from just uc/rare being the bottleneck to parsteel as well. But at least par is easier to get.
lost abyss
You guys got it all wrong, your wallet is the bottleneck.
merry fulcrum
👀
hardy parcel
🤣🤣
river kayak
And/or self control
rustic parcel
Trying to stay at my current level but keep on getting par for even rewards and no way to cash it in forcing me to shield or be raided since I can’t donate... should be able to turn into tokens
outer yew
Anybody knows if ops upgrade event with black jelly bps will ever come back anytime soon?
narrow crypt
@rustic parcel : just stay unshielded with ships out and donate it to your local server.
rapid sky
@carmine lily actually now whales alliances have a hard time... a lvl41 needs to kill a lvl43 NPC for max points, and only jellyfish can reach the systems needed for that so repairs are very costly...
lvl43 NPC is 6.8M strength...
sour plaza
That’s the whole point of how the game keep make you ‘invest’
abstract gate
It doesn't "make" you do anything. Deep pockets and no patience achieve that all by themselves.
meager galleon
Even those without deep pockets 😦
calm stream
If we can’t plan progression in the game after ops 31 without spending lots of money , lot of gamers will stop investing time in the game, Scopely must come with something big and new at the next update , or it will be the beginning of the end
cedar echo
32 is perfectly achievable as free to play, 33 as well. Lvl 34 seems a bit harder with a lot of prerequisites.
abstract gate
Smart use of events, token hoarding, careful shielding and above all patience is all you need to achieve any lvl
shrewd totem
Yep
abstract gate
Progress is not linear or steady as f2p, it's a lot of hurry up and wait
sour plaza
I play like that
But after 6+ month of hoarding and using the same ship, it’s really getting boring
abstract gate
Didn't say it was fun...just possible
sour plaza
The worst is when you make a long term plan... and just when you’re about to get there, they update the game make all your plans obsolete
calm stream
Ok ops 34 is achievable with lot of raiding (luck) and then what waiting a year to get the Enterprise or the Augur , a year without upgrading anything , told you they must change something in the grinding of ressources, I don’t mind making a 2 years plan to get to ops 40 , I just want it to be possible and actually it’s not even in 10 years
cedar echo
I'm F2P, now at 32, could go to 33 upgrading just ops (if I would have the uncommons needed). Still more uncommons limited than parsteel limited.
split spear
I have F2P people in my alliance at 32 or so right now and they can quite easily get to 40 within maybe 6 months with a good run of events and some raiding otherwise 12 months is a perfectly reasonable target for ops 40
cedar echo
I'd estimate getting to 34 likely takes close to 3 months already.
split spear
it is a matter of upgrading the right things at the right time and not upgrading anything else unnecessarily.
split spear
38 to 39 will be the big hurdle however with the increased refinery rates and better event rewards lately from swarm sundays and such it definitely acheiveable
sour plaza
It’s folly to upgrade if your ships can’t keep up
cedar echo
We might have a relatively young galaxy, two players at over 39 and 3 more in dark space at 38.
shrewd totem
A lvl28 fac ship is enough till lvl39
cedar echo
Just hearing the parsteel requirements on 40 would need event rewards to balloon hugely.
split spear
the biggest problem right now is it is practically impossible to continue past 40 without having deep pockets as many events at level 40 are still giving the same rewards they did at level 35
you just can't get the resources to progress while the targets you need to kill for events and missions spike to some absurd levels so it costs you more to do the event than you actually get in rewards
calm stream
As a member of a whales team I think you are delusional to think that you can go easely in 6 months or a year to ops 40 without buying packs and am in the top 10 raiders of my server
split spear
like it costs 5B parsteel to upgrade the academy to level 40 which unless you can raid a whale or are willing to buy 3-4 station packs is going to take a very long time
cedar echo
@split spear Mission rewards are insane already. Like donate a million of dilithium to get 43k tritanium.
split spear
you aren't wrong about that the return rate on donation missions they have been insane for as long as i can remember
cedar echo
5B of parsteel is essentially impossible to raid right now, as nobody has over 1B of parsteel showing.
Like 550m is best I have seen in a week.
calm stream
And noobs are getting rare too 🤣
cedar echo
And the guys with a lot of pars do not have questionable bubbling habits in general.
split spear
@calm stream prior to the most recent patches i would have to agree with you but with the increased refinery rewards and the weekly swarm and mining events the two biggest issues of uncommon g3 and parsteel for getting to 39 have become a lot less severe.
cedar echo
Even the whales on the server have nothing showing when they have spent all the parsteel on the buildings already 😄
floral trail
Blimey, I cant see me making Ops 40 within the next 12 months; I am stuck at Ops 30 at the moment while I wait for Rare Ore to drop from the refinery. I need 50 to upgrade my Ops
sour plaza
You guys sorta been making the point, how is any of this possible from a ftp perspective?
cedar echo
I'd see a path to 34 being quite clear to F2P, but after that I'm doubtful. 38 to 39 is already probably too big of a hurdle for any free to play players to cross.
split spear
@sour plaza with a lot of hard work it is possible but slow it has however been getting easier and will likely continue to do so as new events and content are released.
cedar echo
The ops 39 needing ship hangar 38 needing all defense platforms to 38 kills pretty much all the hopes.
calm stream
@split spear with all the respect I can give to you , you don’t know what you are talking about , I invite you check all the uncommon and rare needed to upgrade ops from 31 to 40 and all the parsteel and tell me how you can get them in 6 months
As my whales did it in months too and with lot of cash
split spear
i was getting on average 400mil parsteel a week just from events while at ops 35-37 recently along with probably 10+ rare ore and rare crystal and a few hundred of each uncommon
calm stream
From 34 to lv 40 they must have spend minimum 4 to 5 k euros
And they always win the events
split spear
it requires doing events efficiently and conserving officer and ship xp as well as certain research and buildings for events
sour plaza
Umm.... ftp can’t do the events your are talking about
Maybe once every month at most with savings
split spear
okay officer events are relatively easy to do a few each month just from hunting hostiles and savings from events like the one we had at christmas
sour plaza
Raiding is the only possibility, but everything is gated behind massive walls
split spear
doing swarm and mining events every week is more than possible for FTP
and they give huge rewards
sour plaza
Back to the point about having a ship...
calm stream
Swarms after lv31 need a max paid franklin
sour plaza
You see everything is connected, it’s hard to imagine when you pay what ftp is dealing with
shrewd totem
@calm stream lvl32 swarms are possible with a Cent or Sally
Much easier if player has Pike
split spear
I see my own alliance doing these events easily without paying
@shrewd totem how many FTP on our server are around level 30 or so with 500k+ sally or Cents do you reckon?
sour plaza
I’m 31 myself and do the 32 swarms with a cent, but we are talking about going up to 34
shrewd totem
By the time you are lvl 34 your Cent will be T7+
sour plaza
As soon as you get get to 35 swarms, it’s impossible
split spear
okay the thing with the swarm dailies is to make sure you get the franklin up to scratch once it falls behind that is when you struggle as it is expensive or impossible to do with other ships
even at level 40 i don't have to kill level 35 swarms
split spear
35s are only to make the heroic swarm event on sunday faster for those who have already maxed the franklin
split spear
the events are still easily doable by only killing 32s
low berry
Heroic can be done fast with maxed Franklin
split spear
and you won't be forced to kill 32s for the event until about ops 34 so you just need to get your franklin to tier6 or 7 before then
honestly it is a lot easier now with galaxy research than it used to be
also make sure you use either the right crew for swarms and it becomes trivial
low berry
@shrewd totem why ops 40 events and those to get 4 grade mat events are not reoccuring
split spear
yeah the events at ops 40 still give g3 which is a big problem
sour plaza
Hmm... you guys certainly don’t understand the struggles after all 😅
split spear
some of my events haven't changed rewards since ops 35 or so
calm stream
Don’t change a thing Scopely it’s easy to get to ops 40 for a f2p we just discover that ☝️
shrewd totem
@calm stream not easy,but possible with time and grind
Nothing is easy in this game without $$
shrewd totem
Depends on events,grinding and time spent
split spear
@sour plaza I am trying to understand what you think the problem is as we have said it is not easy or simple but it is possible with smart gameplay
calm stream
I play like 6 hours minimum a day
I have killed more than 96 k hostiles
I grind swarms over 1h everyday
And I raid a lot
low berry
Huge ads of lvl 40 but I was late with ISS and no way to warp anywhere 😭😭😭
calm stream
Not even in a year I will be able to get to ops40
split spear
when level 34s and 35s can stock up close to 1B parsteel in tokens from events over a month it seems reasonable to me with the ever increasing rewards we have been getting each patch that it will be possible
calm stream
And I win all events at rank1 with my team
low berry
You will be
They cut out more then half connections of buildings
But still I was late and now ass
calm stream
Will be possible only if scopely change those shitti rewards we have at the moment
sour plaza
My only complaint is that people who don’t pay don’t really have a visible path to upgrade, when this happens, there is no more interests to stick around
split spear
the rewards for events are decent up to about ops 35 after that many of them seem to stop getting better but there is still a lot you can get for little effort
sour plaza
Not many will wait 6 month to realize a simple goal
calm stream
Am planning to stay at ops31 6 more months
As I can’t get an Augur yet , no points upgrading ops to 34
split spear
they have already greatly reduced the time it will take to get to 40 by giving you reliable events every week that give huge sums of parsteel and rare or uncommon g3 while also giving you swarms that allow you to get a few million parsteel every day
calm stream
Do you work for Scopely ?
abstract gate
Even with cut prerequisits for ops40...from ops 32...you need 52 bil parsteel
calm stream
Because we don’t play the same game bro
split spear
and see that is the mistake FTP players make you are better off upgrading you ops as early as possible so long as your ship can handle the targets for events and daily missions as the higher your ops the faster you get all your resources from events and refinery
calm stream
I don’t see those huge amount of uncommon and rare you are talking about
shrewd totem
I do
abstract gate
Few mil a day, lets say 5...20 days to 100 mil, 200 days to 1 bil, 10 000 days to 52 bil
split spear
if you want to have a realistic chance of upgrading to ops 40 then you need to only upgrade the bare essentials so you can get better rewards faster
abstract gate
Lets say they give you 20 mil a day...still needs 50 day for 1 bil...or 2 500 days for 50 bil...or 8 YEARS
split spear
@abstract gate that few mil a day is specifically just the swarm refinery
nova valley
As a 32 I can accumulate 40-50 of each uncommon mat daily. As far as resources go, you need to raid. A lot
calm stream
What is that ?
shrewd totem
split spear
at 34-35 i was getting 100mil a day from events and refinery and then even more when the big monthly events came around
nova valley
Lol
abstract gate
Yes, unc is okayish...you need 13k each...so with 50 a day, that is about 260 days
Economy is not balanced...cause you need 260 days for uncommons...and 8 years for parsteel
sour plaza
These are the walls... seriously, it’s ludicrously high
calm stream
Ok thank you Azulas for having sharing with us your fairytale
shrewd totem
🤔
sour plaza
We all can do the math
calm stream
You just gave us hope
nova valley
250 days is probably about right for 32 to 40. Marathon. Not sprint.
abstract gate
It is ok to have walls...it is ok that if you want to progress faster, you pay...i get that....but all we need is BALANCE
nova valley
I agree that I would like to see triple the amount of resources pumped into the economy
I’ve been preaching that on my show for the last month.
calm stream
I don’t mind grinding for a year or 2 , just make it possible, now it is not
abstract gate
@nova valley yes for uncommons...and that is ok...especially with buffed refinery...it really is...but parsteel needs major rebalancing...cause it is INSANE...like really insane
split spear
anyone that pushes for anything more than a T6 Sally, Bortas or Cent is wasting resources they could use to get to 40 and it is a matter of knowing when to upgrade
calm stream
Parsteel is the problem
split spear
as for parsteel costs seriously do you swarm events and dailies and the occasional milestone event and you will get plenty
calm stream
From 39 to 40 is even more insane
split spear
actually 39 to 40 is easier than 38 to 39
calm stream
Azulas are you on drugs ?
nova valley
Honestly, I feel a little bit of patience would benefit us all. Dark space was just released. And I believe with everything in me that scopely recognizes the need to fast track our mid range players.
split spear
no i actual did upgrade from 39 to 40 and it was cheaper than 38 to 39
calm stream
I must ask my whales that are actually lv41 to talk to you
abstract gate
Lets go once again...
Economy right now is that if you buy only monthly pack, mine and refine and do events, you can get needed uncommon and rare for jumpin from 32 to 40 in about 8 months....that is OK
Economy for parsteel is that if you do everything you can get there in 8 years
split spear
No of course i am not F2P never said i was but i buy very little with the exception of getting from ops 38 to 40 this christmas
I would buy the monthly pack and that was usually it everything else was events and raiding
and seriously it is a lot easier now than it was months ago
calm stream
The guys am talking about wins all the mining events and everything in this game even top raiding and yet they had to put lot of cash to get to ops 40
So you must be a magician
low berry
True
calm stream
You don’t see the game is in trouble because you are blind
low berry
You cannot win enough or ride
split spear
ops 40 costs nothing you need a few billion parsteel and a few hundred of each rare ore for the prerequisite buildings and then it was about 3B parsteel and 500 rare ore for the ops 40 itself
sharp ibex
you think ?
calm stream
Once you take away the hope
sharp ibex
those whales understand the game quite well actually
abstract gate
If there are no whales we would have it 3 times worse...
sharp ibex
pay to move quick, or grind to move slow
sharp ibex
and as long as enough flows in, they don't care from who it is
sour plaza
I’d agree with the fast/slow but you can’t have the gap this wide
split spear
I have tried to show you there is a way by playing smart and efficiently my server has many people at the 30-34 range that are f2p as well as probably 20 or so at 40+ and the ones that are F2P all learnt to do events efficiently and regularly
sharp ibex
well, as I said many times before, have those whales rush to higher levels
calm stream
They just need achievable goals
sharp ibex
then at least those will surely leave me alone coz I am too low for them to attack
but when that happends and they scream BORED, they will probbly adapt the pvp levels again to be able to feed them
split spear
well currently i believe ops 50 can still hit ops 33 so the pvp levels are very relaxed right now
calm stream
Feed them with what all ressources have gone
sharp ibex
you call 17 levels difference 'RELAXED' ?
split spear
yes too relaxed
sharp ibex
I call it insane
split spear
it should be more like an 8 level gap
calm stream
5 must be the maximum but not enough players anymore
sharp ibex
begone with levels and switch to power ratings instead
abstract gate
PvP lvl are not a problem...even 10 mil jelly cant do s*it to lvl27 base
You just shield up
split spear
honestly there is rarely any low level targets worth people 40+ even bothering to hit unless they are desperate
sharp ibex
some just raid to raid
split spear
exactly shield or die
split spear
unless you have a few hundred million showing it isn't worth the trouble usually
abstract gate
Yes, but shield up...when a lvl40 cracks you it is 1hit crack...but if you are lvl27, even lvl29 will crack you in 4 hits...
So...shield up
split spear
50M would probably get some bites
sharp ibex
still quicker to raid then to mine
shrewd totem
I am desperate for trit 😐
split spear
but honestly on my server you will be lucky to find anyone with more than 10M not shielded or online
calm stream
@shrewd totem at the black market you can get 300 M trit in exchange of 1 B parsteel
abstract gate
Try...tier2 lvl41 faction miners...without buffs 83 mil trit to repair...with all buffs in this game...
18 mil
shrewd totem
I tried ,no one wants @calm stream
I offered 300m par+50m dil for 120m trit,no takers
@split spear I lost around 200m par in Dec alone 😅
sour plaza
Well, it’s interesting to see how the 40+ sees the game
split spear
my server has a level 44 with a tier 2 or 3 Hydra it is very expensive and completely unreasonable in the current economy
shrewd totem
If you want to raid someone check my base first
It is 18m trit to repair that Hydra
calm stream
I think Scopely is trying to slow down whales
But it’s impossible
Let them go to ops50
shrewd totem
Lvl39-50 content is supposed to be 1 year thing
abstract gate
Just go from start...why does your maxed warehouses with all research available to you can hold amount of parsteel that is 3X LOWER than needed amount to upgrade one building
shrewd totem
But nope,whales will reach lvl50 in 1 month at max
split spear
oh they are definitely trying to slow down the whales but like some people on my server they have more money than they know what to do with
calm stream
Just make compétition exciting
Around all servers
Like clash of clan
Let us see who are the bests in the world
sharp ibex
yup, think we will see level 50 shots before next month
shrewd totem
@split spear can Akoz take Hornist for a week? 🤣
split spear
haha i don't think anyone could convince him to leave
split spear
he has every g3 epic at tier 9 now and his jelly is like 6-7mil it is insane
not so much quiet as busy he is almost always working
flint osprey
Yeah we have a guy or two like that, augur - enterprise - d4 at 3mil+ and a 6.5mil jf
And now lvl 43
split spear
he talks when online to organize raids or armadas but he can disappear for work at any moment
stone grail
he's a spy 👀
shrewd totem
😂
low berry
How you get hydra if you cannot do rep that fast??
split spear
@shrewd totem you should see when my alliance gets their top 6 together for armadas we have a combined power of like 20M
he farmed level 46 or something traders to get rep they give like 10k rep or something stupid a kill
low berry
Aha 😦
split spear
he just sits there farming while at work and used all 5 of the 1M rep tokens on the same faction
calm stream
I hope we get multi server events
With specific rewards
Must not so difficult to make
low berry
I hope we get 39+ events periodically
shrewd totem
@split spear what is the max lvl you guys can kill?
abstract gate
Stop advertising YouTube vids and podcasts ingame it's not news...if I wanted an hour long lecture about something I'm already aware of I'd ask my wife how her day was
split spear
@shrewd totem honestly not sure anymore we have trouble getting all our guys on at once and we usually save directives for events but with just two of us we can usually manage level 35-37 uncommons with the new prime armada research and our upgraded ships as a group we could probably manage something around the 40-60M power mark but that is just a guess at this stage.
Hornist alone could probably manage a 20M on his own
radiant flicker
Someone know why battle for glory changed to 24h from 3 time 8h but poor rewards for 24h like 1 time 8h rewards?
proven canopy
@radiant flicker I was going to ask the exact same thing. In fact, it is the only reason I came on Discord today: What the hell is up with the BFG? This has always been one of my favorite events with good rewards every 8 hours. It’s too easy (already finished), the rewards are mediocre, and from a business standpoint, I would think Scopely would prefer us logging in at least once every 8 hours! I chalked yesterday up as a New Year’s Day anomaly, but this sucks!
barren night
We have submitted the complaints, and are awaiting a response
abstract gate
Rewards seem appropriate for effort required tbh...I'm done already and sally still has 50% hull left
When they had it every 8hr people were here bitching about sleep and jobs and family etc...maybe all agree what you want first then present a unified front...
rapid sky
people also complained they have too many trophies... 2-3 more events with 24hrs cycle and that'll be fixed 😂
shrewd totem
🤣
abstract gate
@rapid sky 2-3? Lol nope
meager galleon
Those that complained about 8 hours were because they potentially missed out on one or two cool downs. Either way... you don’t extend a timer of an event life cycle and not modify the rewards to suit
You’re literally removing rewards
rapid sky
haha the inflation of trophies with ops level... I only have about 2K extra at ops 30
is it still 400 for 5 chests at your ops level?
buoyant python
Another day, still no domination which supposedly was running through January 12
shrewd totem
@buoyant python you want domination?😱
meager galleon
Or.. January second? There was a typo? Or did that get corrected to 12th?
abstract gate
12hr timers with 75% better rewards and 50-60% higher milestones would be ideal imo...but that's just my opinion
@rapid sky chest cost is same regardless of ops
shrewd totem
@meager galleon
meager galleon
That’s nice
rapid sky
or just keep the old 8hr cycle... and people can do what they can... even at 1 and a bit per day it's better than now
rapid sky
or add higher milestones from ops 30+ or so where the grind isn't that bad anymore
rapid sky
so 5 or 6 milestones
abstract gate
12hr appeases the busy and the bored
meager galleon
8 hr appeases the bored
rapid sky
I'm sure someone will still complain 12hrs is when he sleeps and works 😂
buoyant python
It’s just more incompetent information sharing about the game from as openly
meager galleon
Nobody needs to appease the busy because they arnt actually playing
buoyant python
From scopely
meager galleon
That’s a false thing to accommodate for
abstract gate
Keeping us glued to the game 24/7 is too much but if we only need to login for 30mins per day that's not enough to hold long term interest either...it's a difficult balance
sour plaza
I’m pretty sure this is just some random event they scheduled until people start work next week
There is no reason behind why it’s 24h vs 8h other than just because they don’t care as long as there’s an event
abstract gate
Being online too much makes the progress feel even slower than it already is. This may incentivise a few to start spending but it'll make more just straight up quit
sour plaza
I wouldn’t put much analysis into this really...
thin token
How come BFG event is 24 hour now not every 8 😢
abstract gate
Oh snap! Scroll function on discord must be broken again...I'm out before I get banned (again)
sour plaza
Your new year resolution is to quit? 😂
severe bridge
Anyone know how many officers you get per pull here? I got some odd results so want to verify. Thanks!
dapper drum
nothing constant, 5 chests is on avg 8 - 9 slots with 2-5x in quantity
nova valley
th answer is 5 actual shards per chest. but some of those have a chance at being dupliates, or full pulls, or maxed officers resulting in XP @severe bridge
cedar echo
I'd think the gold recruits are consistent with Premium recruits and 5 per chest?
severe bridge
It seemed like it was 3 officers per pull. I watched each painful graphic and saw when they were converted to exp.
But the exp wasn’t consistent
nova valley
correct @cedar echo will correct my post
severe bridge
Maybe someone who hasn’t opened it yet could confirm. I think there is a little i on the top that would say. Not sure you can go from 10 to 5 based on a theory and call it the ‘answer’ @nova valley
nova valley
understood. will have to wait 23:31 for mine lol i'll see if anyone in my alliance hasn't opened it yet.
severe bridge
Sounds good. Thanks
Ok alliance mate confirmed 5 officers per pull
An uncommon officer appears to convert to 2,500 officer exp if you were curious.
uneven dove
No reaction by support on why level 31 and higher have an easier event
Really unfair that they only have to kill 50% of ships of a level 28
shrewd totem
Yes they have to kill less but also higher lvl @uneven dove
meager galleon
My costs for repairs outshine the tiny rewards but I do the event for my alliance
shrewd totem
So I guess there is a balance
abstract gate
Mines super easy at 35...but then I kept my ships up with ops...t9 sally makes short work of 35xxlvl38+
meager galleon
People below 30 can do the event in one run
shrewd totem
Yep
meager galleon
Tbh you’re not reallllllly keeping up
Neither am I
Because we don’t have 34 Ships
abstract gate
Skipping the rares...no point to them
shrewd totem
A T7+ lvl28 fac ship is enough for events till lvl 39 IMO
uneven dove
They have bigger ships
meager galleon
Also guess you’re on the awesome odd number , odd numbers are freebies for events 🙈
shrewd totem
@uneven dove they have bigger costs as well
meager galleon
Bigger costs and bigger repair times
uneven dove
Or give me more points if I hit higher ships
abstract gate
6hr repair at 250k trit
shrewd totem
8h repair 375k trit 🙈
meager galleon
I’ve a 9 hour repair time and 350K Trit roughly for a full hull
And I get no Trit off the event
timber wind
Anyone know what the new crew will be
uneven dove
And all finish those events in 20 min
abstract gate
Well...3hr at 125k as I only need half a hull 😉
shrewd totem
You can finish them in 20mins as well @uneven dove
uneven dove
80 kills? The ships don’t spawn that fast
meager galleon
I don’t finish it in 20 mins
I actually need like 2 runs
And I need to warp for some time too
abstract gate
Took me 15min...was fiddling with research and stuff before I started
meager galleon
@uneven dove I have a question for you
Do you think these rewards are good for a player that needs anywhere between 50-250M Parsteel per Building upgrade or a ship module that wants 4500 Uncommon Crystal
uneven dove
abstract gate
Rare ships are a waste of credits and rss, all you need untill 38 is this (you'll need an epic to reach dark space)
meager galleon
When I have to spend roughly 1M Trit on Repairs and more Dil... as well as speed ups
Try sending 5 of those Saladins against a decent Armada
abstract gate
Lvl35 uc and rare are fine for armadas tbh
meager galleon
Higher lvl you get the more credits you need to open boxes so you kindve need to move up the chain unless you’re invited as dead weight to a whales party on a higher one
And for PvP and base cracking my Gladius is better than that Saladin
I’m 5 on resources raided
abstract gate
Beyond the event rewards theres no real incentive to bother with those thinly veiled loot boxes...even the event rewards are barely worth it tbh
meager galleon
I like my Gladius 🙈
abstract gate
I don't raid
meager galleon
I’m also not Federation Faction
shrewd totem
In PvP that Sally should beat that Gladius
meager galleon
Nope
peak crow
Why is it that we can only spend tokens once per day
meager galleon
The hull/stat changes are pretty significant now, this type of tiered Sally will not out last
shrewd totem
Oh
peak crow
Now I’ve got 70 leftover and an annoying little number telling me I can recruit but I can’t because for some reason we can only spend gold alliance tokens once per day
abstract gate
70?...wow! 😂
shrewd totem
😅
abstract gate
Ask again next year
peak crow
Jesus Christ
abstract gate
Yup
meager galleon
With that number I’m pretty sure you missed purchasing stuff ?
abstract gate
Nope
meager galleon
I’ve always completed these events and used each cooldown, have several thousand but not 9K
abstract gate
There was no purchase first 2 times bfg ran
Another thing players asked for...got...then bitched about 😂
compact citrus
Well, i want new stuff to bitch about!
abstract gate
Just bitch about the old stuff, still plenty there to get riled up about
compact citrus
Can i bitch about not being able to bitch about new stuff?
merry fulcrum
Yes! You can complain about everything!
compact citrus
I guess i'll start by complaining they didn't give us a bonus refinery for Christmas/new year
merry fulcrum
Meh, they improved refinery rates, but i think they lowered the chance of uc dropping, or I'm just being screwed over by rnjesus
compact citrus
Well, so am i. I'm starting to think they only improved it for a few days then turned it back. Except maybe for the commons
merry fulcrum
Usually I get the 7 drop whenever I refine, however the rares are coming in more often
I'd say one refine drops rare one every 3 days on average
meager galleon
Had a 30 UC Crystal pull today
meager galleon
Don’t think rates actually changed much just the numbers went up so you’re averages will improve but you can still get done over by Rng
compact citrus
Well, rng hates me
nova valley
@severe bridge
i think they did probably tweak the rng SOME because i'm getting far more rare than i used to
severe bridge
Thanks! @nova valley
stray tide
Will "act of War" event ever come back to the game <@&509690795536941056>
merry fulcrum
^
cedar echo
@nova valley I'd think that is an avenue for investigative report. I have the feeling that it's rarer to get a shard that you already have at max.
rare scroll
Does anyone know if the alpha token chests will make a return next month? I have about 233k unspent.
radiant galleon
I hope so
dapper drum
maybe 2021
ionic sphinx
Why yesterday in the event I had to kill level 39 ships today when I get up I got a cool level 43 ships because I Upgraded my bass one level that does not add up
shrewd totem
When you upgrade your ops to even lvl events becomes harder as well
ionic sphinx
I do understand if it was 40 not 43
shrewd totem
Ops lvl+4= hostile lvl needed for events
ionic sphinx
Upgrading your base a level does not upgrade your ship 4 levels
gusty rose
@shrewd totem Starquip is on my server, he when from OPs 39 to OPs 40, and top tier ie 20pt ships went from 39 to 43 as i understand it is that correct @ionic sphinx?
Seems a big jump though.
shrewd totem
At ops 38-39 he would need lvl40s for 20 points I think
And at lvl40 it should be lvl42s for 20 point
But I might be wrong since I am only lvl30
split spear
I can confirm ops 40 jumps it to 43 which is next to impossible to farm unless you have a tier 9 enterprise or equivalent
Between the changes to hostile damage types in dark space making explorers and interceptors deal both energy and kinetic damage reducing the effectiveness of the pike, moreau and chen/t'laan combo and the sudden jump in ship power the event is practical worthless to most level 40s.
sour plaza
No, it’s just a double post as the message stated
split spear
@ionic sphinx That is exactly what level 40 is supposed to get the difficulty jump is absurd but not a bug.
abstract gate
It is not possible to fully participate to the event for lvl 40+
Just to much ressource consuming
ionic sphinx
So it’s supposed to be impossible to do unless you spend $5000+
split spear
Sadly yes
Took one person on my server almost the entire day to do it farming 41s and 42s and cost like 50M trit in repairs to do it.
ionic sphinx
It took me all day to get 91 points and yes a lot of trig
split spear
Unless you have 4M+ ships you can't even hope to compete
ionic sphinx
Yes
split spear
My opinion is that the new level 40-43 targets are somewhat overtuned especially considering the pike combo doesn't work properly on them
abstract gate
It's mainly because of the multiple hits on each attack
We don't have a ship doing the same yet
split spear
Multiple hits and explorers and interceptors in dark space use both types of damage now only traders still use a single type in dark space
abstract gate
Yes
split spear
If the pike combo still worked it would be a little more bearable but not everyone has him yet
abstract gate
Klingon explorers do only energy damages for me though 🤔
split spear
I think it is just going to be a matter of waiting for adjustments many of the events still give g3 and next to no resources after reaching level 40 as well
Neutral ones do both
split spear
I hadn't tested Klingons in dark space myself as i don't want to ruin my rep before the lock comes back
abstract gate
Going after a neutral one and be hit 15 times in first round is not good 🙈
split spear
You would think a g4 ship such as the jellyfish should be able to kill at least one level 40 ship at tier 1
Even at tier 2 a jellyfish struggles with level 40-41 Neutral hostiles
abstract gate
Hostiles lvl 40+ are the opposite of those lvl39-, neutral are stronger than faction ones
split spear
Yeah I might have to just sacrifice my Klingon rep for events in the future if neutrals are going to be so much harder to kill
abstract gate
And not just a few
We need good common g4 ships
And not to expensive
Jelly is just a stronger g3 ship to me
Especialy as it doesn't up a lot when upgrading
split spear
It is not like i want to rush ahead and progress to 50 in a few months but i would like to be able to progress even just little bit and do events without feeling like i have to buy a 5M ship
abstract gate
We can't up fast with all the mats needed
Unless you buy 5 station packs for each building ...
split spear
Normally i rely on events to upgrade ships but the ships can't even do the events that i was easily capable of at 39
low berry
Haha so this is really not thought they
You can have Jelly on shipyard 39 but no packages to tier it up
Cause the grade 4 packages are@only for 40+ so you have to jump
abstract gate
You need lvl 40 to have the packs to tier it up ^^
And at T2 you already need the uncommons for all upgrades
low berry
@twilit imp please make grade 4 packages avalible for level 39 so we can prepare us for the jump
abstract gate
can you refine ship parts at 39 or 40?
low berry
Well so level 40+ is for very very rich people 😂😂😂😂
low berry
You can but you can’t cause you need tier 9 faction ship just to mine
And only commons
So the logic is not there
low berry
First we need to have ships then ops upgrade not other way around
Cause as posted you are unable then to do events
abstract gate
raiding is almost irrelevant now for 39+
I don't understand why they didn't launch common g4 ships
First g4 ship is 41 and you will never use it
low berry
It is so adding g4 packages in shop is something to make life bit easier
No Jellyfish upgrade events also it’s a pain
No station upgrade events also
abstract gate
More expensive but not easier 😂
low berry
But you can do events and bit by bit grind
abstract gate
Hostiles event are not possible to do, not in the long run
abstract gate
Yes at 39 it's ok
split spear
At 40 most events still give g3 instead of g4 so it makes it even worse
low berry
But there is no sense at all
Ok but you can use G3 to upgrade faction miners to mine G4
split spear
Why would a level 40 want g3 from events when they are struggling to get their base or g4 ships upgraded
abstract gate
The problem is more parsteel, tritanium and dilithium rewards that still the same than at lvl 39 when you need 10 times more
low berry
@abstract gate True to that repair of jelly is a joke 😂😂😂
But I heard hydra is better only 60m trit 😂😂😂
split spear
The rewards for trit and parsteel at 40 are the same for some events as what I had at 35
It feels like only half of the content was released
abstract gate
Yes Jelly repair is cheap compared to hydra @low berry 😂
split spear
Yeah my alliance member has a hydra and it is too expensive to use
low berry
Kill it every time you see it and you get into his wallet 😂😂😂😂😂
ionic sphinx
But even when you’re at level 40 you can find them but It would take you forever to kill as many ships you would need and refined them to upgrade your shit
low berry
I do not understand the philosophy behind the huge jump in repair costs if you don’t get the materials anywhere
Cause the ent you can repair at normal play logic
split spear
Forcing peace between people with the new ships by threatening them with mutually assured economic destruction
low berry
Maybe you get 100k trit for killing lvl 43 hostile 😂😂😂
abstract gate
No only broken ship parts 😁
split spear
Oh and did you know even at warp 120 the hostiles still drop kehra bps and common g3 resources and ship parts because that is useful right?
abstract gate
Yeah very usefull, should be better if they do the same as in Ty'Gokor, still g3 but at least only blue bps
With good amount of officers xp and relo tokens
split spear
They didn't even update the monthly elite pack to include ops 40+ and g4 so i don't have much hope for better packs right now
Yeah my alliance member who is 44 and can reach warp 120 showed us what he got from the hostiles almost all of it was g3
As i said before the economics and ship power changes in this update seem to be just impossible hurdles to overcome without buying 40+ packs
And even if you buy those packs it seems impossible to sustain the repair costs
low berry
The biggest problem that I see is that you cannot progress at current spending point
Let’s say you buy 5 packages a month the bigger ships you get the lower the possibility to tier it up so they demand you to spend more to progress that will not be a success with most of the people
I should be able to progress at steady past with spending the same amount of money not to slow down each tier
abstract gate
You should be able to progress without spending
low berry
Well the problem is at huge jumps on money
I wanted to be 39 but not to spend three or for times more to be able to participate in events
There is absolutely no logic in this
The Reward for upgrading to 40 is be able to spend more 😂😂😂
abstract gate
Exactly 😂
low berry
Shame
split spear
It wouldn't be an issue if events weren't broken and hostiles next to impossible to kill with g3 epic ships before you get access to g4 ships
low berry
I was hoping for something better
abstract gate
The packs gives you only 40k latinium and some g4 mats but mostly they are the same than at lvl 39
low berry
Those who spend a lot are premium customers who shouldn’t be threat like that
abstract gate
A "little" more of common mats but not that much for what you need
low berry
It’s their choice but the more I progress more I loose will to do it
abstract gate
And for those who said you have 1k of uncommons g4 thats true but you need 10 times the g4 mats compared to g3
low berry
And of course for those who 1000$ is pocket money it really does not matter
split spear
At this point most of the big spenders on my server have given up after reaching 40 or 41 as there is no point to anything and it is just a waste of money as spending only makes it harder.
abstract gate
I only up the Jelly to warp 75 now I will wait
low berry
And that 1m trit does not allow me to kill 10 saladins even
I can kill the same with enterprise spending 140k
abstract gate
Warp 70 in fact + 5 from Scotty
low berry
You are 40?
abstract gate
Yes
low berry
That’s interesting discussion we had someone should read it
split spear
If these issues aren't addressed in the next month or so i expect to see most level 40+ players to just stop playing or at least spending.
low berry
Good that I stopped at 39
split spear
Yeah don't upgrade
abstract gate
39 is good spot
split spear
At least at 39 events and objectives are still doable
Just stock up and get ships and research ready
abstract gate
I up to 40 just because I up my reputation too much 😂
So I needed the lvl 40 packs
You know rep can go down as well as up right?...
No way I'm gonna go down now
At least not with Federation
It's your money...you're 40 now so you're stuck with it but I would've considered lowering rep before running headfirst at the next paywall lol
I know, but what you want me to do ?
Just stay 39 forever ?
Stop to play in fact
Thats the only way actualy, don't play
Just an observation not a criticism. We all play different
I was maxed 3 factions, so to continue to play I had to make a choice
split spear
The problem is you aren't aware of half the things that are broken at 40 until you get there
abstract gate
Choice has been done.
Back to the old days of killing klingons in mass 😂
split spear
Yeah death to the Klingons although I am holding back on it until the rep lock returns so i can keep them at 10mil
stray tide
Just dont be first mover in this game
split spear
When an event to get your only non faction g4 ship requires you to get to 40 or 41 of course people are going to rush into it
stray tide
So ISS Jelly is not the only non faction?
abstract gate
It is the only g4 one
shrewd totem
ISS Jely is only non faction 4g ship for now
abstract gate
Speaking of....is that event coming back and will it return regularly?
And as I said it is not truly a g4 ship, more likely a g3 stronger one
And stronger is a big word
Not really that strong. A maxed Enterprise can take it on
Yes
split spear
If people want the jellyfish it drops from epic armada packs from 38 onwards so maybe you will get lucky but chances are no as for the event we don't really know
abstract gate
To have a Jelly to T6 you need to spend thousands
shrewd totem
Jelly is stronger than all 3g ships but weaker than 4g fac ships
split spear
Yeah if you tier up the jelly a few times an enterprise won't win
abstract gate
A 1 miilion less powerfull Enterprise can overcome an ISS Jelly
stray tide
What about Augur against ISS?
split spear
They are all dependent on crew combos
abstract gate
If you go with anti-faction crew then sure ISS Jelly have an advantage
split spear
The augur and enterprise can both win but so can the jelly just have to have the right crew
Jellyfish isn't reliant on burning or morale so it is more flexible with officer choices
abstract gate
But on basic he only do pew pew damages
abstract gate
Just give ISS Jelly multi hits like lvl 40+ hostiles and then maybe he would be good
split spear
Yeah the jelly is just too weak for a g4 compared to what it has to kill either make the jelly stronger baseline or reduce the hostile firepower
dapper drum
Jelly only seems weak because of its low tier
it has really high health but low firepower compared to a tier 5 or 6 ent/augur
3.5m jelly blows up on my base with my saladin home, but 3m ent clears my sallly/cent/horizon
devout talon
But the power should be compensated by the ship ability, so you would need to factor it at high tier and see how it scales
I would never want to see a ship that is very OP at tier2, makes no sense
dapper drum
one day we will see some tier 4 or maybe 5 jellies roaming around, as is now it seems purely health and defense oriented and that would scale fairly large compared to a g3 epic
amber aurora
One of my alliance members has a higher tier jelly, it is quite powerful for sure. I have a base level one, its nothing special yet. Thought I'd add to the earlier conversation too.I also went to 40 , mostly because 4* materials aren't available at 39. That was a mistake, as killing hostiles or doing events at this level are pretty much impossible for my ship. So the only option is to buy more power, and a lot of buying at that. Progressing slowly isn't really an option so far, more like no progress anymore. So basically 40 is a trap, stay at 39 unless you can spend a lot.
Also, tried to talk to support about the hostiles hitting 15 times a round, assuming its bugged. But 4 days no response yet, so thats going great too 😂
hardy parcel
Yeah, looks to me like the people who went to 40 got done over. But that's par for the course really.
Better to wait a couple of months until all the g4 content is available like the common ships and the balance issues have been fixed.
We all know scopely are terrible at getting this right from the outset. I just hope they fix it soon for you.
waxen vector
hardy parcel
Does it give you directives though?
hardy parcel
Yeah, we got one a little less than that. Still can't get through shields though.
low berry
Jelly is unacceptable
merry fulcrum
👀
low berry
😂😂😅
shrewd totem
Stop staring at me Beyond
low berry
It’s dying on all enterprise
And officer abilities do not activate on it
This is last round of fight with Sala 😂😂
0 times Zhou activated
merry fulcrum
Which one won?
low berry
On two shots without a problem
So either ship is bugged or there is a bug
I messaged support about this because it should not happen
rapid sky
It's more like 300% zhou is OP... he gets 71% mitigation
You lose all of your battle triangle + probably higher piercing stats as it's a G4 ship
shrewd totem
Yeah Sally has 300% Zhou+750% Spock.Hard to win that one
deft hazel
dapper drum
gotta be that inverse tachyon beam
granite zenith
reversed the polarity of the neutron flow to the spore drive, and funneled it through the deflector dish
warped stag
Alt+ctrl+Romulan Star twice quickly
polar belfry
@twilit imp When is a good time to msg ya
shrewd totem
@polar belfry what's up?
abstract gate
It's up. 😂
nova valley
that's up
calm stream
Is Augur really broken ???
Have planned to get it since 6 months
All my dreams vanished away 😭😭😭
nova valley
AFTER much examination, it's my belief that it's working as intended... HOWEVER. as with ALL battleships, shield's are not it's strong point. it's hull
it will not deter me from continuing to work on an augur.
i'm still gonna go after it. the weapons damage is cumulative, so it works better in longer fights. it's not a short round ship. but most battleships aren't
calm stream
So it can’t fight short fights and no shields, it’s a cargo then
nova valley
lol that's not what i said.
it's still an epic ship. and has power over 1 mil. with the right targets, it absoltuely can fight short rounds. but it will struggle against the enterprise unless you can outlast her. and with a morale crew, that's difficult.
in pvp that is. pve, it's still a beast.
calm stream
So a ship to have on a peaceful server
granite zenith
Until new section 31 officer gets released... the anti morale... kahn and Kumak and her.... bye bye enterprize
nova valley
YES @granite zenith the antimorale will make a YUUUGE diff
and that could have been the itnent behnd those officers, was to indirectly buff the augur.
against the Ent
calm stream
Am not feds so impossible to change plans
granite zenith
I think all the new ones are anti epic... gotta play with them when they come out
calm stream
Romu and Klingon 12 and 8 M
nova valley
duuuuude, you're set up perfectly!
calm stream
Feds - 2 billions
shrewd totem
Wait for fac lock
nova valley
wait for maintenance to returnt he fac lock
grind out. it won't take you but a few weeks.
shrewd totem
Yep
nova valley
get your fed to 10 mil. and it will lock
shrewd totem
Max 1 month
nova valley
then you can build all three ships.
calm stream
I hate feds
nova valley
three factions*
lol dude. can't have it both ways. either play by canon, or play by mechanics.
shrewd totem
I hate Kli but I am Fed/Kli dual 🤷♂️
nova valley
but don't complain with your choice haha
calm stream
Will never be feds ☝️
nova valley
ok, then buhbye enterprise.
calm stream
Death to them all
nova valley
the augur would be the logical second choice
but you have to love her despite her failings.
calm stream
I have centurion tier 8
shrewd totem
Sally>Cent>Bortas
calm stream
I know but I choosed Romulan above all long life to the empire
We can’t be all factions that’s not logical
And against Star Trek history
I understand why Scopely didn’t want to lock them
nova valley
oh i agree too, philosophically,
the problem was that the mechanic was established for over a year. it's kinda become a normal thing, and something that everyoen worked for.
so it was less a matter of canon, and more a matter of mechanics. game play.
lost time and rss
calm stream
We need more of Star Trek spirit and less mechanics
nova valley
yeah but people spent real money on thse mechanics... unless you can find a way to effectively compensate for that, real money trumps all
calm stream
Sure , the minute the money stop dropping at the rate Scopely need they will close the game
They used to do it with theire games
Am ready for that
Won’t be the first time for them
Hope only they sold us to another company and not just shut down the server 🙏
reef adder
prepare for the worst, hope for the best!
granite zenith
wong... im gonna call you eeyore from now on
granite zenith
officially he's an ass 😂
granite zenith
o you meant eeyore... ba dum tiss... j/k j/k
nova valley
HEYOOOOO
abstract gate
The factions lock is back? Catching up on the messages
shrewd totem
Not yet @abstract gate
abstract gate
Dang it Devs said "After New Years" and I expected them to have it fixed 1 minute after midnight. sigh lol
shrewd totem
They said after holidays actually
clear birch
So after July 4th
eager lava
the real question is, when are they gonna fix the hit range, its pretty lame that a lvl31 can hit me at lvl24
cant even remember the last time someone under 28 hit me...
it should be listed in the event details
granite zenith
top secret
clear birch
The brackets are different for different events. Even the lat rush leaderboard could be different from week to week
@eager lava 34 can hit down to 24, 35 might be able to
glacial sail
@clear birch the monday mining had been 31 and under and 32+ for a long time. Not sure if its split more than that. Officer events seem to not be split
clear birch
I’m not sure. Some are 31 and under and 32+ and 40+. Some are tighter. One recently I was in was 34-35
carmine lily
whatever the competition brackets are for leaderboard events you can expect they will be unfair and that high payers will virtually always win them.
nothing in this game is about evening the playing field, it's all about servicing the whales and making them feel better about themselves for paying for things they didn't earn.
proud solar
Better than it usdto be & for that I'm thankful👍🍻
granite zenith
the devs will get right on that for ya loot
cloud grail
The Game is Pay 2 Win plain and simple. When you learn to accept that then the game makes sense. The rest that don't pay must muddle through.
The game ain't fair so is Life FYI.
P.s. I see scopely as a third world dictatorial junta. They exist in the real world, so if you're free to play your experience is the Real world experience of regular folk living in those countries.
granite zenith
eager lava
@clear birch yeah, im well aware of that. 32 is the highest thats hit me so far. its lame. the two above and two below bracket range was much cooler. only weak players think theres nothing wrong with being able to hit ten levels under you.
queen geyser
Any 40+ around ?
hearty jungle
Hello, new to hive thanks for bringing me in
granite zenith
Wrong discord
shrewd totem
🤣
hearty jungle
Whoops lol
harsh narwhal
But as I don't get enough XP to do that much I don't see the point
merry fulcrum
Best event line up, because you can spend xp
You have to save it up, you're level 28 or 29 from what i can tell
Regular armadas can drop 16k ship xp a day, if your lucky
harsh narwhal
Yes and get sod all
Another wasted effort as it takes ages to get directives
Who's got epic directives
harsh narwhal
I save them for the events to help lower members with Armada's to boost them up
My fighting ships get XP hitting hostiles miners do sometimes but I save to top them up
nova valley
Use latinum to replace ship xp. It’s not a terrible conversion.
merry fulcrum
If you get a lot of it...
winged light
I hope the next event will be Swarms
carmine lily
@merry fulcrum even if an uncommon armada pack drops every single ship xp, which it never does, the max is 9750. more often than not it drops none at all. ship xp is almost as hard to come by as uncommon resources. possibly even harder.
rapid sky
@harsh narwhal at over 10K you only pay 200 lat for 10K ship XP, so even if you don't have any ship XP, it'll only cost you around 1K lat to finish the event, check how much you get back and see that it really isn't a bad investment for all the recruit shards and officer XP
harsh narwhal
Ill give it a try I use a lot of lat on repairs and would love better Tritanium rewards in some of these events just today Ive used 2M in repairs and builds
hybrid ibex
@harsh narwhal I love seeing double ship events giving officer rewards. Between the two of them they also give (almost) enough latinum to offset the latinum cost of the ship xp you need to spend. 😉
harsh narwhal
Cool
low berry
Where is rep lock holiday long over
sour plaza
Anytime soon from now to infinity
silent horizon
Chill guys, in most countries people are going to work as of today. I am sure that during our life time the rep lock will happen. Stop being so impatient, they have mountains of cash they need to count at Scopely HQ, that takes time.
shrewd totem
It is holiday for Gala and Panic today 🙂
silent horizon
Are Gala and Panic the ones in charge of implementing this changes?
shrewd totem
Nope but they are the ones communicating stuff to us
calm stream
So much things to be fixed also , they won’t just release one with just , rep lock . They are working on balancing the game again between lv40 that upgraded theire ops with tons of cash and all the other players stuck at ops 34 and didn’t want to move due to low ressources in the univers to raid and the low ressources winned in events. They must add new interesting and challenging events for all . And Also give to the whales something challenging to spend on , so all this will take time and bug fixed
So SOON ☝️
silent horizon
Their presence or absence today is not that relevant, I am sure if the devs had something planned, they would let us know one way or the other. Anyways, I am on holiday, as such, I am not in a rush.
abstract gate
I am...trying to keep 2 at respected and one at consort is seriously impeding my progress. Need that rep lock back so I can rush the consort to lock then get on with regular play again...
Removing the rep lock came at the worst possible time for me...klingons were at 2.8mil...already had to drop them to 500k to make balancing all 3 easier (dropping klingons gave fed and rom a buffer for getting dailys done with the crappy spawn rates in non-veteran systems)
sour plaza
The announcement for putting back the rep lock is the worst thing they could of done 😂
raw zenith
why?
sour plaza
Cause it stopped all of us from doing any faction grinding
raw zenith
I didnt stop. I actually took klingon rep from untrustworthy to Consort in a day lol
and kept fed rep unchanged
glacial token
Are there still replicator events? ....or have those been ceased?
barren night
They pop up randomly
abstract gate
Are we gettin anything excitin today?
Or Domada
shrewd totem
Domination+Mining+Armada=Dominada🤔
shrewd totem
You cant do armadas unless you pay or save up directives for a month
Domination is boringgggg and it isnt event
So only mining 🤣
silent horizon
I have saved up about 800 rare armada tokens, and have about 1000 normal armada tokens
I like domination, as a supporting event, not a main event
And the prizes from mining are acceptable
shrewd totem
How many months it took for that much directives?
silent horizon
Since the beginning, only did 1 rare armada so far
As far as the normal armada tokens go, i got them from the weekly chest, as well as rewards from the last event. I am in the top 2 alliances on my server, so prizes were fub
shrewd totem
Since the begining is like what 2 and half months?
That is too much time to save something just so you can finish event
abstract gate
Only way I would ever say armada event is acceptable is if it is 2 days mini alliance and solo event in 6/8 days of big event with event store.
So 8 days event, with tokens, with 4 mini events to collect those tokens, one can be armada. And no. of tokens must be really, really worth it. Then, maybe, it would be acceptable
silent horizon
@shrewd totem i am not waiting just to finish the event, I am waiting cause my armada center is not 30 yet, I have been lazy with it, as such, I am waiting until I reach 30 to do 5 man armadas for more rare credits
shrewd totem
Oh
floral trail
Armada events are the worse and most frustrating, spending hours trying to find an Armada slot is not fun. I have pretty much given up on Armadas, uncommon Armadas don's spawn quickly enough during events. I have 1500 uncommon directives and 130 rare directives mostly from upgrading my ACC.
stray copper
So.... any data mining events on the horizon?
sour plaza
The better the armadas rewards the more people will be left out
It’s actually a terrible flawed system especially during events
tidal zinc
Same here @floral trail i have 1900 directives, still probably not enough to complete the next event. But when it starts the chat is boring "Can I?" and "yes" and no one wants me in there armada because i don't have the biggest ship so I get bored and do mining in silence.
turbid kayak
@tidal zinc - you can start your own armada and are sure to get in.
floral trail
Yeah just be prepared to spend ages looking for one @turbid kayak.. no thanks, watching paint drying is a more engaging experience
silent horizon
@tidal zinc , use your directives to start your own armadas. As for others not allowing you to join cause your ships are not strong enough, well, I don’t blame them, I would do the same. I want strong ships in my armada, since I don’t want to have to repair after every battle. So, focus on your ships more.
tidal zinc
There is only so much UC crystal the refinery likes to give out. sally has been my focus since I got it. If I can complete the next event with my tokens ill spend them but until then there is no point in me using them.
clear burrow
So the bonus refinery didn't get the updated refinery amounts eh? The output is still the old small amounts
dense wolf
Bad rewards after bad rewards after bad rewards
floral trail
Yeah, I just did a 25k refine and had less UC than my normal 12.5k refine. Ah well.
clear burrow
I got more uncommon from my 1750 batch than a 150k triple batch at the bonus refinery.. That seems reasonable right?
floral trail
@clear burrow I suspect someone at scopely didn't bother to adjust the amounts since they changed the regular payouts.
clear burrow
@floral trail that's exactly what happened. They forgot to update the bonus and only touched the regular refinery
sharp helm
No trit rewards once again!!!
waxen vault
Does raiding resources refer only to bases or to opc miners as well?
ashen wharf
both
rapid sky
@sharp helm the trit rewards comes from the bases you raid 😂 😂
Otherwise swarm sunday just gave plenty
karmic sedge
So what is this BS that folks who can’t hit darkspace have to mine g4 for max folks? What the?
karmic sedge
Ah, g3 was 10 points before. Found old screenshot. G4 is 20 then, so a bonus for the bigwigs. All is well
abstract gate
😶
ember notch
Epic refined 4* crystal 🙂
shrewd totem
Nice
eager hill
@ember notch what ops level are you?
ember notch
40
shrewd totem
Every little bit helps