Oh well I do hope he tries PvP because itโs the best aspect of the game
#๐-event-chat
inner loom
barren night
There are many ways to play open world games like this
Including "Simming" which is fine, that is how they want to play.
Then you hav epeople like me, that like to watch things blow up
That is fine too
There is no true balance available between the two in a game like this, unless you server has some sort of agreement.
But, that is the beauty of games like this, you can come to gether as a community, and try to work things out.
some times it works, i know of alot of servers that have these
and some times it doesn't , IE my server.
But, all game play styles are welcome.
abstract gate
I've made some legitimate suggestions up there to improve both pvp and general quality of life....and I've not once said I'm against pvp just the number padding the pd statistic promotes
In it's current form*
And as I said although personally unwilling to raid others I'm not against it as a game mechanic, we are mostly all adults (especially the big spenders) and we are or at least should be aware that losing what you worked/paid for is a risk inherent in the game
Btw is farmville any good?
Still blocked pod...stop typing
inner loom
@barren night While your taking suggestions to Scopely, ask them to bring back the PvP event from January. That was some fun stuff and actually engaged me way more than any other event.
The AI for hostiles is very rudimentary and easy to beat. Much prefer going up against real people
barren night
@inner loom I think that was the second thing I said right after becoming a mod
sleek lark
@barren night well thanks for that mate I was a lowly level then I just joined end of December on my server ๐ก
round lava
@barren night, Can you suggest to them that we be able to swap out Officers on said ship while away from Station and also to implement beaming up and down personnel?
dense wolf
This reward at level 26 is extremely paltry
rapid sky
Lol yep
tame pebble
still better than last event
astral thistle
last event you could buy 3x of those rss tokens per day
merry fulcrum
@dense wolf at least you can theoretically get them without spending any of your rss
golden veldt
Mine a lot of trit
agile flame
north star worst mine ship of all, but great batleship
cant mine with it because ridiculu storage
barren night
It is one of the cheapest ships to get to warp 40, and at that rate with stonn i fill my ship in about 1.5 hours, so it is great for mining events or when you need to get your dailys done and don't want to be bothered ๐
soft gate
Lol, the warp 40 systems are packed on my server. Going over protected cap also gets you killed pretty quick.
barren night
It's still quiet on mine.. thankfully.. well mostly quiet
merry fulcrum
Hey Hal, you still on a drystreak?
scenic cloud
On our server, it's packed up with NS. The only thing that can mine. Just no o node or full.
My question, is mining burst coming tonight?
barren night
No idea, to be honest
Seeing as this is a three day event... The possibility is ther.
scenic cloud
My NS will be full in 20 minutes lol
merry fulcrum
@scenic cloud get that envoy prepped
scenic cloud
We don't run envoys over lvl 29
merry fulcrum
Then get that horizon prepped
scenic cloud
Can't nun a bus, unless it's on dilith
Other wise can be removed for more efficient ship
K vorts and ns on Crystal
merry fulcrum
Thought crystal was last night
Yeah, crystal was last night, tonight it's either ore, or gas
slender trellis
Realta still featured on a mining event graphic. Will that ever change. All the time in the world to create new packs, new graphics for packs, I have 31 packs being offered! But no time to update an event graphic? Bizarre.
tawny coyote
Hello Does anyone know what should be the mining rate when you have a fully tier envoy and you have as captain KBISCH? It show it increase the rate by one hundred percent.
halcyon briar
kbish's level doesnt affect miner rate. my envoy is teir 7 level 35
tawny coyote
I thought the miner add to your mining rate if you envoys is at max lvl the miner add to the rate as the miner lvl up.
My is at the same lvl as your and If I understand the description of KBisch increases the mining rate of a ship. For example before I upgrade KBisch the rate was 70% after the upgrade it when to 100%. @halcyon briar
halcyon briar
its his manuver. it only increases with synergy
so max synergy kbish will always be 100%
tawny coyote
You mean like this the Psteel miner is max lvl KBisch is max lvl and dilithium miner is one lvl lower than max lvl. @halcyon briar
halcyon briar
Max synergy
round lava
Question, what is the rate for Domitia when maxed out?
halcyon briar
Not max synergy
No synergy
@round lava 100%
All mining officers max at 100% with max synergy
halcyon briar
in an envoy?
round lava
Yes.
Thing is, I cannot seem to get any more shards for her.
Been months now.
Stuck at 34/72.
halcyon briar
Only mine dilithium for missions. Use your phindra and farm battleship hostiles
@round lava that doesn't matter. As long as you have her unlocked you can mine dilithium at max speed
tawny coyote
@halcyon briar but that is what I have, but I check my rate before I purchase the package that would max out KBisch and it was 8344 after I upgrade KBisch it stay the same. No improvement.
round lava
I wish they were all like Helva.
She mines like a jack rabbit.
halcyon briar
thats because parsteel mines substantially faster than trit or dil
not because helvia boosts speed more
she also increases the rate by 100%
round lava
Yes, that 100% rate is great.
tawny coyote
@halcyon briar No offense but if I read it correctly and as it show in the picture I posted the captain maneuver is that it would increase the rate. I said it would increase and give you a percentage.
tawny coyote
See
halcyon briar
additive with the hull bonus of the envoy
tawny coyote
So it should be high than 8344.
halcyon briar
why?
the base rate for mining trit is 320
envoy mining laser adds 745% hull adds 150% kbish adds 100%
sorry, the hull bonus and kbish are additive. they scale multiplicatively with the mining laser
round lava
Well, there's always one way to find out.
Put the crew together on the Envoy, hover over the node with the resources, highlight the ship, and look at the rate.
tawny coyote
I did the rate before I max KBisch was 8344 but after it did not change. That is the problem and why I ask.
round lava
I see.
halcyon briar
because maxing kbish does not change his mining rate
the only thing that does is which officers you have on the bridge with him
you had max synergy both before and after you maxed him
round lava
I see what you mean.
tawny coyote
Well the Psteel miner was already max, the dilithium miner is one lvl lower than max.
halcyon briar
none of that affects the mining rate
none of my mining officers are max and i achieve the same mining rates as you
tawny coyote
That is the only reason that I purchase the package because I thought it would.
alpine yoke
sorry, back up to hull bonus on envoy @halcyon briar? I've never seen that
tawny coyote
The only reason I was asking is that I ask scopely and they told me is my internet speed or that I donโt have the right version of the game.
alpine yoke
wow...I already thought customer service was bad but "internet speed" in regards to mining rate takes the cake
Oh, oh. Got you. Misunderstood. Thought you meant mining rate would increase with hull strength
tawny coyote
But I have the right version and I have good internet speed. So they told me that at this moment they are not sure why is not working that they forward to developer.
alpine yoke
That's more level bonus then, isn't it? Cause hull strength changes with officers but doesn't impact that
tawny coyote
Yes let me show you.
halcyon briar
@tawny coyote we know support are idiots. They said that so they could close the ticket and because it was easier than looking up how the game works and teaching you that
tawny coyote
But that is worst because it let you to believe that something is wrong.
alpine yoke
Personally I like the "send us screenshots proving the shakedown officers are broken like we aren't already aware" from cs
tawny coyote
Then once I did all that they told me this.
sharp ibex
support ain't idiiots
if you think you can do better, I am sure they are looking, go apply and show em better if you are able to
sour plaza
They arenโt idiots, they are just very limited in the scope that they can help, but thatโs a failure in the support system when that image is projected
sharp ibex
and in regards to sceenshots, they REQUIRE them as it is a policy
even if they are aware, they need em
the same with stuck ships, they know it might be the case and they could look it up, but the ticket needs to be associated with evidence provided by you
it's a legal/liability thing
abstract gate
@halcyon briar you struck a nerve ๐
sharp ibex
@tawny coyote and I strongly suggest to remove playerid's from public posted pictures, it is not forbidden, but still, for your own sake, only provide playerid's to Mods or CM
nah
I agree they need to improve on ticket response quality
which is being worked on, when thats done, the only things you will complain about in replies is that it contains answers bound to policies you dislike
for the rest, please don't complain about support if they are just following the policies/restrictions as set by the company that hires them
they just do their jobs
abstract gate
Maybe the policy should be changed because a lot of people have spent a lot of money on this game and they don't feel like they're getting a good return on investment
sharp ibex
on a personal level, I fully agree on that
abstract gate
This game has so much potential it seems like Scopely is blind to that. They want to try and get away with the bare minimum.
sharp ibex
and I have been passing it to them many times, even before I became mod, in fact it is one of the reasons I came here
after a lot of discussions with support about several tickets I had back then, they actually gave me the url for here as in: try to sort it out here
otherwise I'd probably never knew about this place ๐
abstract gate
It just seems like they put the cart before the horse and the game was put to market before it should have been. Now they struggle to play catch up. And from what I read on the money they're making they should be staffing devs coders and so on 24/7 to get up to speed. Add a customer service team dedicated to solving problems. People don't want to be hassled they don't want to be given the run around. Plus when you get to the high level players that have really put down some money those aren't children those are adults we've been very successful in their own fields and careers which allows them to spend the money and so they don't have time for BS. That's just my $0.02.
There's a lot of little things that could be fixed would make a huge difference and put scopley in a lot of players good graces.
pastel yew
@everyone what will your buy at the event store using your bathlet?
urban dagger
@pastel yew Parts
nova valley
tawny coyote
@sharp ibex Thanks I will keep it in mine for the next time. But the problem is that after all the discussion Iโm still very confused and I did not get what I believe I paid for. I read the description and I should had gotten a bump. Which never happened. With that been said I spend money and 12k in Latium which I could have use in something else. They made no effort to do anything. They could have at the very least give me my Latium back but nothing. I have spend a great deal of money this pass week and to be treated like that is not customer service. I also donโt believe I said they were idiots. I would still like an answer. I was planning to purchase the other miners package but since they gave me no straight answer I back off and will not purchase them. They need to have some types of chart that show how it works. The information on the screenshots of Kbisch show that you should get a rate increase. I didnโt.
frozen abyss
Captain's maneuvers are never affected by promotions. Only the officer abilities and stats increase. The only way to improve the captain's maneuver is to use the synergy bonus.
tranquil echo
Why wasn't the mining event announced
cloud grail
Cause transparency and pre-planning is not a part of the Scopely dictionary
calm cipher
Are in other servers bbโs allowed on 3* mines?
upper knot
No rule against it
vivid swan
<@&509691205798592532> <@&509690795536941056> just want to give a big thanks for this mining event........ As a lv16 I always had a hard time getting into the top 100 tiered event. Now with this split I'm finally able to get some rewards.
Although you might want to bunch up the lowbe bracket a little bit ... in my bracket there is little to no competition.
From what I hear from my alliance mates the competition in higher tiers is still a bit to fierce. I'm not sure how you did the brackets but a slight rebalance might make it more fun.
this pic shows how easy the lower brackets are
our lowest is a slacker with only 9 points. I guess he kicked someone off a mine and stayed for like 2 seconds
he is ranked 73 btw
zealous wren
Meanwhile at ops 24 here and there is no way we can do 2.4M points in 3 days for the top reward
vivid swan
(PS @other people here. my score is low yes. I can only mine g2 for this event which gives 1 point per g2
ouch ..... thats a lot epicness ....
zealous wren
Yea we gave up pretty much
vivid swan
for a lv16 its a measely 300k
zealous wren
Top reward at 2.4M the second at 850k
I settled for the second
Could probably reach upto 1.8M but not more
vivid swan
although for the event I need to grind out g2 which translates into 1,5M (solo gives me 2 pts per g2)
so I guess in short. Increase lowbe difficulty and decrease the higher lv difficulty
delicate moth
Ok at level 27. Finished in plenty of time.
earnest snow
I went lvl 25 yesterday. So this is technically a lvl 24 solo. Don't know if there's a difference between 24 and 25 or not. @zealous wren
delicate moth
No. 24 and 25 are banded together. Same as 26 and 27.
vivid swan
@delicate moth dont forget you can have up to 3 horizons at lv26
that makes mining much faster wouldn't it?
since level 16 till 25 would only have envoys and potentially 1 (or 2) northstars
tall horizon
Finished my solo before i went to bed the first day. Only ran 3 miners the whole event....
edgy wasp
I'm nearly finished mining. Most of what I mined this time was trit, and I discovered that the Envoy without K'bisch captain goes faster than the Horizon with K'bisch. This event has been unusually quiet on my server, usually the top couple alliances take over the best mining systems right away and destroy anyone who enters them, but not this time. I've got to mine 3.6M points worth at L28, but w 3 envoys mining trit and a horizon on gas it's been rather relaxed. Which is really odd if you know our server.
halcyon briar
@vivid swan Northstar is going to be faster than a horizon. Also a teir 3 horizon is barely faster than an envoy, with much lower protected cargo, so your results may vary due to keeping nodes and travel time
weary canyon
@edgy wasp I think the reason is the rewards are so bad, nobody actually cares about this event at the alliance level.
At the solo level sure some extra rss is fine.
rapid sky
3 horizons for mining is whishful thinking lol
weary canyon
But there's no reason at all for anyone in a big alliance (these people PAY a lot to be there) to care about the alliance event rewards. They're useless for the most part.
vivid swan
@halcyon briar northstar healthy mining is bugged though. Which makes the horizon faster again. But I guess its correct that not many people would have higher tiered horizons
weary canyon
T9 horizon costs about $3k so yeah, not too many will have those, especially multiple ones.
T5 is fairly reasonable cost tho
vivid swan
Also for the event the protected cargo doesnt matter. Even if people steal g3 mats it still counts for your daily / events
halcyon briar
@vivid swan the Northstar healthy mining works perfectly well. Mine achieves 11k/hr at teir 7
My horizon is 6600/hr
weary canyon
T9 horizon is 9900/hr with perfect crew
vivid swan
I just tested it out. I removed all officers from below the deck and above deck
round lava
You guys are awesome with those high leveled survey ships.
vivid swan
without correct crew my NS mines at 2640
round lava
I have a wee little Envoy.
vivid swan
with all crew (not the correct one) it stays at 2640
halcyon briar
Is that the displayed rate? Or did you actually stick it on a node
Because the display doesn't update for healthy mining ;)
halcyon briar
Don't worry about it, you're not the first, and they do need to fix the displayed rate lol
vivid swan
...... so much g3 lost for me then lol
never bothered setting my NS up with high HP crew
tall horizon
With the right crew I think i got my t9 ns upto about 30k/hr, just gotta park your station next to a node to unload every 6 min (using the data miner guy to increase protected to 2600)
vivid swan
ahwwww
you make me jealous .... sadly mine is stuck at T5 atm
need blue g3
which is erhm
not so very much obtainable for me at this point (lv16)
tall horizon
You can still load it up with high health officers to maximize it though. Wont be 30k but it will help more then you think
vivid swan
true
zealous wren
over here its not easy to get points over 2 M as your miners get taken out pretty often my rogue players etc
APAC is probably the bigest server
hoary sorrel
is the scoring per research finished on the limited time research event random? i finished 7 research modules and only scored 11k total. a friend of mine only finished 4 and scored way more than mine. she finished a single one and scored 9k easily
weary canyon
The research scoring is maddening.
Don't bother trying to participate in those events IMO, nothing good will come of it.
Same with the base upgrade events.
Scoring makes no sense, doesn't take into account the cost in rss or speedups at all.
Horribly done.
That being said if you want to boost your research or base, try to do it during one of the events to get some minimal free rewards, but don't hold your breath and actually try to do those events at all, you'll just be disappointed.
golden veldt
They should include details about increase in power as well so that players can make informed choice.
hoary sorrel
a friend finished tritanium safeguard level 3, he got awarded 1500 points
i finished level 4 station weaponry, i get 1k points
aand another friend gets 9k points in a single research.
vivid swan
all scopely really should do is include how much points you get for certain research
so that you at least can plan in advance if so willing
dense tiger
So whatโs next, after the mining event?
golden veldt
Another mining event ๐
dense tiger
Hilarious. But seriously, whatโs next? They normally do the upgrade event, but thatโs going concurrently with mining right now. Anyone have any ideas?
golden veldt
In all seriousness, may be Hostile hunting.
dense tiger
Thanks
tall horizon
They need to do that faction rep gained again, the rewards were pretty decent if you put in the grind and played it right with accepting some but not all dailies (for multi faction players)
halcyon patio
@halcyon briar what officers are you using to mine 11k/h with ns?
abstract gate
Healthy ones
abstract gate
Using the right captain and stacking all high health stat officers below decks I'm getting a bit over 12k/hr
T9 fully lvl'd
halcyon patio
So for ore , use Ston cpt and rest with high hp?
abstract gate
Guy on my server with better officers than me reports 15k/hr
@halcyon patio exactly...
If you aren't using scotty for warp 40 use all mining crew for synergy
halcyon patio
Ok, but isn't better to use sinergy on deck and healthy ones below?
I think showed mining rate isn't accurate
abstract gate
If you are using scotty use helvia for quick return time and synergy, i suicide for a zero home time
It's not even close to accurate...with healthy crew you can pretty much double whatever it says
halcyon briar
yes you want full synergy up top high health below
halcyon patio
I used scotty to mine in warp 40 with Ston / t'pring but I'll try Ston/livis, livis has 422 healt
abstract gate
Use synergy...helvia gives 30% and cuts your travel time to the system in half
Chuck livis in a storage locker below decks
For me she cuts 6mins off my travel that's 1.2k extra g3
T'pring's protected cargo bonus is nice but a 300k ns isn't threatened by much so unless you have overload trolls running t4+ faction warships (t6+ for lvl26 ships) you ain't getting robbed
halcyon patio
Thanks, from calculation it is mining 9.7k/h at t8 with best officers I have... probably after I upgrade officers will do better
abstract gate
Yeah t9 unlocks last officer slot too (once lvl'd) which will boost it well over 10k/hr
agile flame
my ns is t6... almlst impossible upgrate because rare cristal...... i dont get one even in the bonus refine
i am always hit by someone with 300k power ship
so i give up mine with ns
abstract gate
It's a struggle with ns between t4 and t7 but it's well worth the investment once it's t8+warp upgrade
At your tier it makes a perfect swap ship, fast travel and excellent mining rates plus a decent amount of power
Use it to hold a node 5-10mins while your horizon or envoys unload
Also it's cheap repairs makes it handy for clearing a sleeping miner from a zero node you need, doing dailys, dock defence whilst out hunting etc....it's versatile is what I'm sayin
+1. NS is also cheap to upgrade, compared to faction ships
@abstract gate to a point yes...once you get into rare territory ns gets painful for budget players though....still cheapest option for a warp 40 miner if you are under lvl30 though
And a maxxed ns with high health stat officers is hard to beat for mining events
At lvl30 my top milestone is 4.5mil pts...ns can do that in less than 40hrs on it's own if i could be arsed to use alarms
The guy on my server getting 15k/hr would be done in just 30hrs lol
abstract gate
Yup, I ranked #3 of present event with T9 NS and a couple of medium horizons, struggling with big guys... who don't like NS, lol
I'm 9th just using a t6 horizon and t9 ns
Everyone above me is using 2 faction miners minimum lol...and several below me too. I'm barely trying tbh could have employed my other horizon and an envoy for swapping but I'm only in it for the tokens
I noted 11.4 k/h for NS, that's twice my T6 Horizon
Hell I could've built and tiered a third horizon and really made the top 5 sweat lol
In nolife mode though ๐
Yeah my ns fills it's 17k cargo hold twice and a bit more whilst my t6 horizon is still emptying an 18k node
gusty rose
@twilit imp Is there a bonus refinery after this mining event?
abstract gate
No countdown to one in refinery so outlook is bleak
Panic gets asked that 100+ times a day and never answers...I admire your optimism that he'll answer you but it's ultimately futile
gusty rose
Lol, hope is all we have left for this game.
abstract gate
Which is pretty sad when you think about it
dim topaz
Original source?
devout talon
abstract gate
Yeah ok...coz nobody ever lies to the press ๐ฎ
That highlighted bit is clearly bs based on scopely's continuing lack of feedback on it's official social media sites. Maybe it's better for their other ip's but here I've seen zero improvement in communication and transparency
abstract gate
Hell if anything communication and transparency has been backsliding steadily for the last few months
charred prawn
communication has nosedived the past 2 weeks especially
abstract gate
Indeed, only meaningful information being disseminated is by the <@&509691205798592532> , the <@&509690795536941056> ('s) only field softball questions or straight up stay silent
thorn dragon
Also, more likely because they are 'told' what they can and cannot say by the C' Mgrs in pm's/private channels and so on, btw...
js
Admin/Scopely Staff are pretty strict from all accounts and have set standards and so on as well
abstract gate
Oh I'm sure certain information is held back by higher ups specifically to drive sales (event release times/types etc)
thorn dragon
in other words, js: the Mods are passing on info.. for the C' Mgrs to mostly stay out of the 'limelight'
abstract gate
๐
Keeping us on the back foot unable to prepare for specific events is a legitimate albeit shady af sales tactic
thorn dragon
well, no offense PLP.. but js: not staff is all
srsly, not saying it's easy PLP, being the 'in-between-ers'
but the pay check counts for something.. ๐
abstract gate
Nothing but respect for the mods, volunteers all and doing more for the community than the cm's on every level
thorn dragon
where, the "free (cough.. splutter....) help of Mods, obv' do most of the chatting
abstract gate
No paycheck for red shirts
subtle fiber
Anybody knows, what Event is next after mining Event?
charred prawn
I don't think they've spun the Wheel of randomness to determine the event yet ๐
thorn dragon
*maybe it's: find the fragments of the Hijacked ships scattered throughout the Galaxy;
then kill each other for them, as there's not enough to go around* 
then the next event will be 'now build it..'
but you'll be one fragmented piece short...
*next up...
the Recycling Building..* (will function faster and more successfully than Refining..) go green and โป
charred prawn
but you will be able to buy 40 fragments for ยฃ100 ๐
thorn dragon
for all the Ships you don't want, and parts, and 2g rss to โป
charred prawn
can't forget the 2g it's so important when you get to level 25+
spare perch
@devout talon I believe scopely shares everything it understands about game mechanic ๐
round lava
Question, what are we supposed to do with all of these G1 parts?
soft gate
Upgrade G1 ships. ๐
round lava
๐ฑ
I really think they dropped the ball with those parts.
I mean, there was no way in how all of those were going to be used in so little time before anyone upgraded to G2 ships.
sharp ibex
please wait for market to arrive ๐
abstract gate
Before or after armadas?
rapid sky
Soon โข
modest rivet
whats after the mining event?
frozen abyss
Data extraction event?
You know how successful the last one of those was...
The whole server was thinking "Who farted?" and the answer was Scopely.
modest rivet
๐
thick pine
can't wait for the boosted refinery after the mining event is done !!!
compact citrus
๐
abstract gate
Maybe you can't but you're gonna have to
small rune
Scopely's next event is a pack buying event. 5 tiers, no extra award for completing tiers but you get the option to buy yet another over priced pack before advancing to the next tier. Good luck everyone.
languid wigeon
When is NS event coming back?
round lava
I need those NS BPs.
They need to supply them somehow for the free to play folks
meager galleon
Yeah supply North Star Rare Ships to every player, kick those that spent money on it over the last 4 months or so In the teeth
๐ This coming from someone at ops 29 without one btw. (If you didnโt get it btw I was being sarcastic)
sour plaza
But you do get free ns prints, just this week during the boss event with tokens
3 free bps per day
You has to be above a certain level to see if I heard, but nevertheless, free!
meager galleon
NS Blueprints have been available from multiple events since its release
Including the one just gone
abstract gate
Hell a fully free ns was achievable during the og ns event
rapid sky
And to be fair 20โฌ for the BPs is well worth it...
Compare with 200 for #payflowersucks....
abstract gate
Also true...if i was forced to recommend one purchase it would be ns...best most versatile ship in the game imo
frozen abyss
minus the cargo capacity
abstract gate
Not an issue if you use it right
It's not an overnight miner I'll grant you but it's versatility is still second to none
mortal thunder
Right, the NS sucks at cargo space, but it mines fast. Used properly, it is well worth it and it's definitely versatile.
small rune
It mines G3 fast...to be specific
abstract gate
Fastest...it's no slouch at higher tiers with other rss either
abstract gate
There'll be more...most events with an event store has had bp's so far (khan event excluded)
stark vector
Did I miss something or where did the bonus refinery go at mining event ending?
teal jackal
They stopped doing that. Probably figured giving everyone extra uncommons was cutting into their bottom line.
frozen abyss
They only provide bonus refinery when they specifically advertise it
This one didn't include a bonus refinery:
dense wolf
Because they"fixed" the refinery rates. FYI they are not fixed. They are as bad as they ever were
stray wadi
The refinery drops got bumped up by 3 at the top chance at my level 14. That said, the drops have been just as bad, if not worse.
However, I didnโt expect a refine bonus this time because my server just got a 2 day bonus in the act of war event
charred prawn
yeh definitely doesn't feel like the refinery got any sort of buff I'm guessing it was so tiny as to not be noticeable
umbral swallow
Actually, Refinery drill a lit more 3* rare and uncommon , and even some 4*. But it was all too brief.
hollow prairie
@merry sand @twilit imp <@&509691611903426561> Any word on when the next Augment event will be or when any Hijacked ship packs/BPs will be available?
round lava
I would love an Augment Event.
loud solar
There is another upcoming yes
hollow prairie
@loud solar w00t
mortal thunder
Agreed on the mess of a refinery. Seems like drops are worse than before.
Just once I'd like to see a developer fix long standing glitches instead of figuring out more ways to get people to spend money.
night ocean
If i dont spend my batleths now will i get them next time?
Have 120k and want to save them for when im higher level and can buy blueprints and shards
abstract gate
What's the next event? Hostiles and mining in augument space?
hollow prairie
I am hoping they offer Hijacked ship packs or have them available in the Augment faction store
small rune
Next event is a pack buying event....5 tiers, no additional rewards. Each tier will require 1 more over priced pack to buy before accessing the next tier.
As an apology for inevitably screwing that event up they will create yet another new level of recruits, Hugely Epic Ultra, that you'll have you but packs of tokens to use to access.
alpine yoke
And 90% of the packs will be made up of officers with non-working abilities
gaunt lotus
When is the next event and what is it
echo yoke
Is there a list of officer combos that work?
clever raven
@twilit imp you posted on the #โญ-official-announcements list that the store closes Monday 17:00 PDT. The countdown timer on the store is indicating Monday 9:00 PDT. Will the engineers fix or extend?
sour plaza
Combos? โ๏ธโ๏ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐B+A+start always works
meager wing
@echo yoke they do have a list. Super secret. But its out there
I have it as of beginning of June
small rune
#nobuyjuly
meager wing
@small rune thatโs a good one
winged light
@twilit imp <@&509691205798592532> could we please get next, โFractured Empireโ event is back, we would love to have those unc again, please please
tall horizon
sour plaza
My theory is that the past few months we been subjected to some psychological experiments to see whether an event with great reward or another equal event with crap rewards will generate more pack sales
fair mantle
will the elite bat'leth tokens be able to get used next time another event comes around or do i need to spend them all before store closes today?
as i cannot spend them all on things i want since scopely decided to put a limit on what i can buy with the tokens i earned
noble spade
As they carried over from the last event, it stands to reason that it will happen again - but we don't know for sure.
ashen pawn
dont you just feel like a Rat in a cage ๐
abstract gate
More like a hamster on a wheel
raw zenith
@echo yoke https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e-SaK4LK5GE812oNIKt45BAS1IZUtJ09pGMYIrEx3r8/edit?usp=drivesdk
sleek lark
What and when is next event
frozen field
Mining ๐๐
granite musk
Obviously ๐
frozen field
Iโm guessing here but probably Augment related or some form of PVE Faction
sleek lark
I would prefer pvp faction
frozen field
Me too. Think Iโd shoot my self if it was mining again ๐
lusty oak
It's Hunt the faction ๐
gloomy magnet
rapid sky
yep ๐
nice one!
good thing I didn't do my daily faction kills yet lol
anyone can post lvl28 milestones and rewards?
fiery dragon
Wasnโt there an alliance event attached to the faction solo events last time?
subtle crow
it is less than the previous event ? (i am level 29)
spiral forge
@winged light : thks! and to get 20 points, you have to kill lvl 31 and more?
winged light
rapid sky
hrm ok so ~15% more than 26
spiral forge
or 32?
winged light
1500 points
rapid sky
so 75 lvl 32s?
winged light
1500/20=75
rapid sky
hrm ok that'll be too much for my Kumari lol
winged light
What about lvl 29 or 30s, your reward is more or same?
green beacon
Hunt event -- you guys needed the rewards and made it so we have to kill tougher level hostiles....and you wonder why people are leaving
Ridiculous
Nerfed
round lava
Why isn't there ever a Federation Hunt the Romulans?
rapid sky
@round lava there's one for each faction killing, does it matter what they call it?
inner stirrup
As ops28: 265k kunari i need to to kill 75 lvl32 enemys, after 5 kills death kumari... fir all 3 factuons its like 100 kumari repairs... wished i stayed 27.....
inner stirrup
Not everyone buys faction ships Scopely!!
rapid sky
@inner stirrup what crew are you using?
inner stirrup
Kirk
compact citrus
most likely... and lots of us were now only a few hours short of getting an officer...
@abstract gate if what i said is considered profanity then i apologise, i don't really consider it that...
inner stirrup
Kirk-Spock-sulu to be precise
rapid sky
@green thunder use Cadet Uhura as captain with Chen and Instr. Spock
you'll probably be able to kill 12-14 lvl32s in one go
novel fulcrum
Yup i needed 6 yuki shards
rapid sky
max health below decks
inner stirrup
Will have a check, tx, but still not worth the trouble, stupid event imo
devout talon
it's a good boost for faction credits, but the repairs will hit hard
rapid sky
yeah at 28 it's gonna be difficult with only a 265K Kumari
1020 points for me in a single go at 27... killing 30 & 31 klingons
ripe iris
At lvl 26 and 300k kumari it will take me 4,5 repairs to finish all three events killing lvl 30 hostiles. It is 500 k tritanium per day but then gain is much more valuable than cost
rapid sky
@ripe iris seems like you might be able to optimize your crew a bit, I get the same with a 270K Kumari and repair costs are only 360K trit ๐
ripe iris
Could be, I am using Nero, Vemet, Chen combination
And attack defense officers below deck
rapid sky
swap Nero and Vemet for Cadet Uhura as captain and Instr. spock
compact citrus
@abstract gate seems they just reopened the store, with just marcus and yuki available, but those were the reason for extending the store so that i understand
ripe iris
@rapid sky thanks will try them
rapid sky
๐
abstract gate
@compact citrus Can you check again?
round lava
@rapid sky Yes, this is true, but, I really try to keep both Factions together.
Against the Romulans.
rapid sky
I just do all 3
round lava
That would be good.
I just hate to lose out on those Federation points again.
I hate having to get them back again, LOL.
You know what, I just noticed something.
You dont even lose points๐ฑ
compact citrus
didn't the previous events give you points for one faction and take them away for the other?
round lava
Not sure.
lapis skiff
Nope
ripe iris
You lose points grinding faction hostiles
round lava
I never knew of this.
lapis skiff
Yeah, just the faction loss from killing them.
round lava
I thought it was the same as doing regular attacks.
I've been missing out all this time.
lapis skiff
Which is net neutral if you do all three
round lava
Been selling myself short all along.
๐ฑ
I could've been doing so much by now.
I'm kicking myself in the butt now for this new found info.
forest lily
chen is better than cadet kirk with synergy to uhura?
hushed hornet
Does the current lvl vs hostile level follow any logic? At 23, you have to hit lvl 26 to get 20 points. Alright
At 25, you have to hit lvl 28 to get 20 points, make sense... so is it +3?
no! At 24, I have to hit lvl 28 to get 20 points!
what is the sense in that??
dry cape
i just upgrade to lvl24 before event started have to hit lvl28 for 20 points
wish id known event was coming lol
hushed hornet
well, I upgraded as well a few days ago, but I thought you could hit 27 ffs...
dry cape
but yeah i cant see any logic in it
hushed hornet
Also lvl 27 must hit lvl 30 ๐คฃ
thick pine
eazy ^^
hushed hornet
Then at this point I assume that lvl 26 have to hit 30 as well, to be just as annoying...
<@&509691205798592532> <@&509690795536941056> Any chance of an adjustment/explanation on the reasoning on why certain levels seem to be penalized in this event?
thick pine
you have kumi right?
use: cadet uhura asa cpt, instructor spock + chen
eazy 75 kills
upbeat jetty
This is total ๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฉ...as an โnewโ Level 28, I have got get Level 32 (350k+)...absolutely not worth the resources...
hushed hornet
Naah, not yet, just upgraded, but I have a 200k NS
thick pine
use that crew
hushed hornet
even with the NS? I normally use Kirk/Bones/Spok
thick pine
even with them
try it out, neither of those officers are for a specific ship so works on all ships
hushed hornet
uhm... but they are not even in full synergy... will have a look, thanks
thick pine
no need to have full synergy
abstract gate
@upbeat jetty Welcome to lvl28, where you should start to sell a limb for moving on
rain shale
Lvl 20 you have to kill 24โs and level 21 needs 24โs also
hushed hornet
alright, I guess it makes some twisted sense...
thick pine
just dinged 27 and i need lvl 30
abstract gate
Yup steps are 2 levels: 20-21 ,22-23, 24-25, 26-27, 28-29... no one player knows why but Scopley certainly does
rain shale
Mind you at 20-21 I only need 750 points so half the kills
upper knot
Anyone have screenshots of what the event tiers and rewards look like at operations 30 or 31?
hushed hornet
@thick pine nice combo!!! by why Chen? she seems to be effective only against energy weapons... so it depends on the kind of hostile then?
thick pine
think all have both, not sure 100%
but from the ppl who know these kind of stuff, i try to learn from them
@rapid sky he know better ^^
hushed hornet
I definitely seem to last longer... and I didn't promote Cadet Uhura even
thick pine
yep you can almost if not even cap one of them in 1 run
i had to kill like 9 lvl 31 and 1 lvl 32 for my kling daily.. and i was at the 1k threshold when my kumi died.. and went again for the rest 500 points eazy ๐
i need lvl 30
hushed hornet
With a Kumari is probably more effective, but even with a NS is definitely better than before... thanks! ๐
thick pine
yw
rapid sky
Lol what do I know better @thick pine?
thick pine
the crew setup, for hostiles
do all hostiles use both weapons?
Herald asked why chen
hushed hornet
I thoght explorers had kinetic and explorers had energy
survey for sure have both
maybe battleships as well?
thick pine
using a kumi so i will go only against explorers, dunno for the rest tho
hushed hornet
ahhh that explains it... ok then, there is another officer that does the same thing with kinetic weapons for sure
upper knot
Battleship has both types. Survey and explorer have energy. Interceptor has kenetic
hushed hornet
oh yes... my NS only got a phaser turret... so only energy, you are right
well, then chen is good for everything except interceptors I guess
latent grotto
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> Where's the alliance event? Last time there was one.
rapid sky
@hushed hornet t'laan is for kinetic
hushed hornet
cheers
rapid sky
The 22 klingon elites for example have the same weapon config as a Kehra
Explorers all energy... high level BS probably same as Kumari
Bosses/mission NPCs etc have odd setups
upper knot
Anyone have screenshots of the operations 30 event tiers and rewards?
meager galleon
From an Alliance mate @upper knot
Hopefully this is what you were looking for ๐
wraith roost
Is anyone able to tell me the amount of point a lvl 24 must get for this event?
winged light
@upper knot whatโs ur attack range and points, is it 1200 points for u as well?
latent grotto
no lvl 24 need 1500
tall horizon
@twilit imp how about bringing back the interceptor/explorer/battleship upgrade packs to help us kill these high lvl npcโs? ๐
wraith roost
Thanks Duckieus, for reference this is for level 23:
barren night
Hey, those High Level NPCs have families too you know!
winged light
Yeah itโs the same
tall horizon
True but t4 enterprise and t6 sally arent cuttin it, im spending more time warping and repairing instead of... โencouraging the high lvl npcs to go elsewhere @barren night ๐
abstract gate
How long will this event last?
barren night
JT: That is definatly a 1st world problem... 8 minute warps for me, with a t4 D3 t6 Kumi and T6 Vehk...
@abstract gate No answer given. Personally I hope it's just one day.... i'm running really low on lat...
tall horizon
Ill be up here on my high horse if you need me @barren night
barren night
LOL, pass, Don't want the Ent anyways... maybe a sally if I had Harrison though... but, I don't so still pass ๐
tawny kettle
Wish event gave trit rewards as well, killing all these reds is expensive
radiant flicker
Wtf did they increase the points again.... last time it was 500 for me now 1k.....
thick pine
guessing you level up by then?
sleek lark
FYI you donโt need a faction ship to do event I use kumari 300k with uhura kirk and Chen
Cadets
barren night
And, Stu is correct, that is the best combination for Hostile hunting, and I use the D3, because it's the only decent interceptor i have.
And, I am trying to pound this out before the next round of server war starts...
edgy wasp
I've been having pretty decent results with 2 ships in the same system, the Kumari grinding 30-31s with Saladin grinding 32s. If you just focus on 32s, eventually they'll all be killed and replaced by 30-31s, until you kill off enough that the spawners start popping out 32s again. So by killing off the 30-31s at the same time there's less time lost. A bit more expensive for repairs though. I used the same tactic before getting the Saladin, grinding explorers with the Kumari and Vahklas, instead of battleships w Saladin and Kumari. It's actually cheaper with the Saladin ๐ That Vahk loves the taste of trit and dil.
(Im in a L31 system, going for 32s for 20 points, so translate that to whatever you have to do at your own levels)
alpine yoke
No one in my alliance listens to me about Cadet Uhura+Instructor Spock+Chen for these events, they're like "no my epic kirk/rare spock/rare uhura are way better" and I'm sitting there trying to explain I take way less hull damage per hostile than they do even if Kirk procs every round
barren night
rookies ๐
rapid sky
Lol almost all kumaris I see on our server hunting the npcs are either Morale or Rom crew
barren night
There are alot of people that, like me are too lazy to switch crews
round lava
My Bridge Crew on my Jellyfish is Instr. Spock, Cadets Uhura, and Chen.
They are astonishing.
With Nero's Crew in the Lower Deck with Cadet Scotty.
tall tapir
How many days will we be doing this hostile event?
Also, we dont have server wars anymore it seems
round lava
I need for them to do a straight resources only rewards Event.
Nothing but Common and Uncommon of everything.
forest rampart
What the hell. Iโm level 34 I need to kill level 38 hostile? 900k power ships
They really do not think these things through
alpine yoke
It's a 4 level difference for other levels too, but I don't think they consider how the power scale ramps up more sharply the higher you go. There's a 50k difference between 29 and 31, then a 300k difference between 34 and 36. Scaling needs to be adjusted either for hostile power or event requirements
forest rampart
Itโs like seriously being punished by moving up a level
elder comet
it's because that high they expect you to have a decent faction ship already when you lvl up ๐
teal jackal
Love this event. Lvl 27 and can do an entire faction in 1 round with Kumari (tier 7, no upgrades). That's 75 lvl 30+ (I am mostly killing 31s). You all have leveled too fast in comparison with your ships. Also, crew is key. Don't use Rom or Morale. ๐
forest rampart
I have not switched crews yet but as of right now I can kill 2-3 level 38โs with my 680k centurion. Because itโs deep in fed space itโs 12 min warp. I would need 20 trips at the most. 240 min or 4 hours of flight time. Then letโs also say 20 repairs. 120k trit each repair = 4.8 million trit. 20k dilithium repair = 400,000.
Scopely totally screwed my level of this event up. And I do not have a pansy ship.
halcyon briar
what crew are you using?
forest rampart
Iโve tried variations of Chen.
I donโt worry about PVE all that much. Iโve never had an issue until this event
abstract gate
Anyone else having issues sending messages in the game?
soft gate
@forest rampart yes, ever since they went to the +4 model for PvE events, it totally screws some people. Would be nice if we were able to actually complete the event killing hostiles of equal level to +3, but the points they award are just to small. The only realistic way to complete these events is to target hostiles with +20 points. My recommendation, since you already calculated the costs to be prohibitive, donโt even try to compete.
forest rampart
Thatโs the point.
They made an event that excludes some people on the server
I mean what the hell
simple spear
Im sorry what level are you?
soft gate
Heโs 34, thus expected to take out 900k hostiles en mass. He has a point.
forest rampart
Need PVE crew but itโs not like I have a weak ship for my level.
Whatโs worse is I really want these credits for Augur which probably could shred explorers even being broken.
halcyon briar
definitley try cadet uhura cadet kirk and tlaan
assuming you are hitting interceptors
simple spear
I'd use spock over kirk cadet. For added defense
trail dock
Last time I was L18 and was able to complete all 3 factions daily. This time (L20) the points needed are way too high. I'm not sure I'll be able to complete Fed at all, much less all three. Hated lack of balance in a previous game from these guys and eventually quit playing. I got to say that if I get to that point again, I'll likely avoid any game from them in the future just to save myself the frustration. Damn shame since I've always loved both franchises the games are based on. SMH ...
soft gate
@trail dock it will balance out and become easy to complete as you develop your three star ships. These events are ok balanced for lvl 21-29. Once you hit the level 30s, hostiles start growing exponentially but you are a long way off from there.
forest rampart
Itโs completely infuriating.
teal jackal
@forest rampart sorry to tell you, but that ship is extremely weak for your level. Our top players (35-38) all have ships at 1 mil power or close too. Several of our players that are level 31 have the lvl 28 faction ships at over 700k. a 680k ship at level 38 is very low.
tawny coyote
I donโt see it Iโm lvl28 now and I cant complete it. It take for ever the way the score the points. The problem it the amount of resources need to lvl ships to make them stronger.
trail dock
Wouldn't it make sense for them to balance the road to there so players don't quit. Simple fact: people play games for fun. I know I'm not alone in my frustration, but only got patronized when I tried to talk to Dev in the past.
forest rampart
@teal jackal it is for sure not a weak ship I spar with level 31-36 constantly
rocky sequoia
Then your server is full of weak ships
trail dock
@soft gate As you said, I'm a long way from there, and can think of no reason to live in a state of constant frustration for another 6 months or more hoping it'll be better someday. That is a whole lot of stress and potential ulcers that I can totally live without ...
forest rampart
There are def stronger but Iโm not buying the 300 more rare gas to tier it up.
It can win Rock Paper Scissors why spend the money
But thatโs still taking it off topic
Because I have to kill 40 900k powered hostiles.
soft gate
@trail dock once you develop a 3 star ship a little bit, these PvE events will become easy. What I said was you are a long ways away from the level 30s when these events become completely out of balance again. If it makes you feel better, there are people on the founder server in the mid 20s who work for Scopley and provide feedback to the development team on the relative ease or difficulty of events among other things. As they continue to level up, their feedback will help better balance things out.
steep stream
@forest rampart I get what you are saying. It's not just at your level. I just moved to 28 and it seems to assume I already have a Saladin that is tier 5 or 6 immediately. It does feel at times like the jumps are not thought through. (Or maybe everything is should be shifted 1 ship power-wise so that what they expect for 28s should be 29, 29 should be 30 and so on)
Different question - you mentioned a 12 minute time to fed space. Why not just move closer in fed space?
It seems like evens are the big jump and assume you have the ship that you get that even level ready to go. Would work better if those were the next odd level to give some time to build and tier up the ships before they become virtually essential
exotic willow
Gotta love the repair speedup pack in the store , rofl, repair times wont be adjusted anytime soon
granite zenith
Gotta love that they have flat out plain as day in 100% correct English grammar, structure, and enunciation stated unequivocally that repair times are where they are wanted, and you guys still expect them to be "fixed". They are fixed, like it, or lump it.
As for completing all three in the allotted 24 hrs. I am easily able to do so AT level 29 hitting 1500 points with lvl 32s worth 20pts in a kumari
Use the triangle, promote your officers, spend the speed ups and or latinum.
But for gods sake please stop asking them to make it any damn easier. THAT would ruin the game
balmy root
This current event payout is weak. I'm refusing to do it, I also opted out of the mining event as I'm tired of fighting for g3 mines
granite zenith
@balmy root can we get you to refuse to log into discord to whine also? That would be batting 1000
balmy root
Just offered my opinion
rapid sky
@granite zenith what lvl/tier Kumari and how many 32s per run?
granite zenith
I haven't been counting... but I can tell you I've used less then 300k in dil. And only had 500k to start.
Going straight through it took me a little over 4 hours
And its 16k dil to do a full repair.
rapid sky
For all 3 factions?
granite zenith
Yes
granite zenith
Again... I did not count.. I killed. Not every kill was a 32 by necessity... sometimes I needed to generate them. Sometimes I had someone hitting the 30s to generate them. I was also recieving dil and tri, tri and par, and dil and par ... as well as drops as rewards...
All in all quite profitable
In romnspace it was easier for me cause I'm rom favored... and could hit the two 32 lvl systems without dodging the revenge ship. Sometimes I needed to pop a 33... which meant more repairs... but all in all for the time and dil, lat and speedups, extremely profitable indeed
Sometimes I screwed up and hit the revenge ship. Said fuck a duck, repaired and continued anyways
rapid sky
Well personally I don't think I would have done it if I needed to repair my Kumari 20 times... that's 1.7M trit...
And many hours of speedups ๐ ๐
And yeah I have to be careful in fed space not to hit some of those hunters
granite zenith
I have 25mil tri and another 24 1 mil tokens. Speed ups and lat.. hell they drop like candy from a pinyata
Sometimes I would simply hit the 3hr speed up for 30lat. Sometimes I'd use 3hrs worth of 5 min speed ups. What am I saving them for?
rapid sky
For the next time bosses needs to be killed lol
rapid sky
Or pvp/raiding... I have too many speedups but don't consider 1.7M trit and 200K dil + all the exrra warp times/relo tokens to be worth it, that's just me :)
granite zenith
What warp times? 3 relocates per day. Each time directly into the 31 explorer hub system
I have 50 some relocates. And 7000 alliance tokens
Hell I picked up 7 relocates today on the 3 I spent. As well as 3 cent, 2 sal, and numerous other bs crates
On top of scored 103 nero shards on the ultra pulls..
Sorry 106
Other than the separatist boss suicide event... which same ship dif config can get me between 5-8m points per 16k dil repair this is by far my fav event
And I had to hit i believe 86.4m points this last time, and 90m the time prior
And one of my teammates was getting 16m points off the fed boss with a modified burning config and his legionary.
Spend it to make it. I zero my dil, par, and tri... once or twice a.month myself building. Couple of raids... cash some tokens... save ship and officer xp for the rolling events... build and research and cash in reg speedups during power events.
It can be done...
ashen haven
@granite zenith do you know what burning config was used for the Boss events?
viscid sinew
@granite zenith you are raising a point that is important, that lots of people do not understand. The more you play, the more ships you kill, the more bases you raid, the more res/mats/tokens you make! Invest and you will harvest. Save and you will be poor forever.
granite zenith
If I remember correctly it was same as above only switch Nero to captain, chen and I wanna say kumak as bridge
Alternatively Jarvis as captain and nero as officer. I always have to play around to get it right ๐
thick pine
or use enterprise crew
fierce night
@twilit imp I specifically like the way scopely made it nearly impossible for a free to play account to complete more than one faction portion of this event. So much better than last time when it was worth it to waste rss on hostiles. Thank scopely for helping me get my life on track by desiring to play less. P.s., what kind of materials do i need for the kumari? Figured id ask here since HiveMind was forced out too.
thick pine
^ lies
i am f2p
and i do them all
just level 27, you just need to have patience and go for events in your favor
granite zenith
The burning gives me better points per suicide
granite zenith
granite zenith
And this particular one gave me the greatest
thick pine
bottom use officers for stats to boost the ship, you can almost cap the event with that setup
granite zenith
The gorkon Harrison chen one I posted above I did all 3 in 4 hours
thick pine
380 points is left of one of the factions with that setup with a 272k kumari need lvl 30 explorers
how many times did your ship die with that crew?
granite zenith
Scroll up. I answered all this once... not repeating the same convo at 3:30am
thick pine
3:30 kk gonan check
ok saw so you need lvl 32 hostiles
try the cadets and chen setup
granite zenith
No. The cadets dont outperform my setup on my ship.
thick pine
1180 nero pretty sweet
mine is 1 tier lower
gz on the 106 shards btw
in the past i won 101 epic kirk shards and 103 epic kirk shards ( tho i got only 99 ffs scopely ! )
and last night 32 kerla
granite zenith
Gorkon Harrison chen gives the the 60% shield ignore round one. The energy absorb.. and gorkon powers through the kill in fewer rounds saving my hull. Alternatively if I went kumak, chen nero, its relatively the same with a better hull bump, but slightly more hull damage per ship
rapid sky
@granite zenith good on you, I don't have that many alliance credits/relocation tokens, so I rather save them for base raids/defense ๐
granite zenith
The gorkon one however allows me to pull in 6 or 7 30-31s to maximize my kills per repair and chances as drops with practically 0 hull remain kg ng
thick pine
i'm saving my credits for faction ships , but love this event getting 610 credits
helps a lot ! hopping it will last 5 days at least.. well hope
granite zenith
I raid when I'm broke. I dont raid just because. I can get a min of 1ma day.. and in events like this I get several
thick pine
i raided a lvl 29 with a 847k base yesterday stole 5m trit before he bubbled
rapid sky
I also mostly raid when I'm broke, and sometimes when our alliance finds a juicy target
thick pine
my 132k horizon barely survived so i needed to spend 1 30 min repair + 3 min or so
wasted a lot but was worth it !trit
granite zenith
I am less than 20 away from getting cent completely free... now I'm not a f2p. I get the monthly pack, and have spent quite a bit. However I haven't spent a dime on bps
rapid sky
I have enough for Saladin ๐
rapid sky
not very far from cent either, but don't think I'll be getting it
thick pine
also crystals... pff need tons
granite zenith
I did drop 100 to get my kumari up to tier 6, butvthats because I didnt wanna spend 300nor more on a legionary...
And that was 3 events ago... so the 100 played out quite nicely over a month of play in my eyes. And will continue to as I rebalance my faction status to get kli back positive, and to consort, which will by then have enough for Bortas. I'm playing the long game
thick pine
what's your kling rep atm at?
granite zenith
I've gone from -500k kli to -160k kli in about a month and a half
Mainly killing 31-33 roms
thick pine
nice
i had positive rep with fed and rom, and due t oa bug lost all my fed rep
didn;t had that much tho but i was 22 or 23 back then
i had like -30k ish, and was doing rom dailies ( just the minings ) so i can get the daily chests pfff
took me 1 month to get it to positive
granite zenith
Once I have the cent I'll let my rom dip under consort little as I build up the kli... which if nothing goes wrong should have me getting bortas and valkis around the same time also free
thick pine
sweet
wish i had a bortas but -1m+ rep with kling atm :)))
-1.4M rep atm i have
but eh will stick with fed rom
by the time i'll reach even 30 think they will fix the augur
but that's a dream i won;t reach maybe in 1 year rofl
rapid sky
lol
exotic willow
@granite zenith Nice one, when you are past level 29 and getting into the faction ship realms we shall see, and I never said "fixed" I said "adjusted"
rapid sky
I got bortas BPs in the AoW2 event... now I have 9 ๐
thick pine
got 1 bortas bp from hostiles and 1 b'rel so far
thick pine
24/40 horizon bp's
will build a second one as soon as i get the rest ^^ hope they drop!
once when i open 50 crates i got 3 horizon bp's hah
rapid sky
I think I have about 30 for second horizon, they drop nicely from the event kills
then again, don't want to spend any UC crystal on it
granite zenith
I have enough horizon bps from the last 3 events and grinding to build 3 more
rapid sky
well dunno how useful it will be without spending UC on it, we'll see I guess
thick pine
the separatist event i just went hitting the boss
didn;t had time to go kill the lvl 22 hostiles
better than envoys for sure
for a nice tiered bb dunno, mine is low
rapid sky
my BB has 240K cargo ๐
granite zenith
Mid 20s I was tri poor... 27nand up dil poor... so inalmoat always have at least one horizon on a dil mine
rapid sky
but I can only use it to raid up to 21-22 bases
rapid sky
yep, dil is the one thing I always have plenty of... mostly from combat trainings
thick pine
building the astro atm like 1day left
i;m stuck at lvl 31 captain atm
vahklas is too weak .. 145k just\
btw saw you kill it with 215k vahklas the 356k interceptor
rapid sky
yep... that's the 31 captain
rapid sky
lol
thick pine
got 626 missions done already
shrewd plover
How long new event last?
thick pine
no 1 knows.. it;s a mistery :))
shrewd plover
Mayby they are new daily events :))
thick pine
would be nice
like rly nice, plenty of credits and some unc
and the officer stuff !
tidal storm
I donโt see the point in Hunting the Klingons event ..not 1 uncommon crystal reward in any tier
shrewd plover
As lvl30 i need to shoot red34+/20 points
As lvl31 is same. What about lvl32?
thick pine
you have 3 faction daily atm
each will tell you to kill a certain faction
so you can get all 3 uncommon stuff
fpr example im killing romulans atm, klingons tell me to do it, so i;m getting crystal xD
granite zenith
It's not for crystals... it's for the credits. For promotion of officers down the road
thick pine
you need to do all 3 dailies and get from all stuff
granite zenith
Especially if this particular event is the only way for you to get kli credits.
rapid sky
37 vemet shards from 3 ultra chests ๐
granite zenith
Eventually you will only be positive in two factions at the most
thick pine
sweet
halcyon briar
Seriously. This event saves me literally hundreds when it comes to upgrading my klingon officers
rapid sky
lol not all of us spends on officer packs ๐
halcyon briar
Neither do I ๐
Doesn't change the fact that that's the stated cash value of these rewards
rapid sky
lol
soft drift
Yeah these credits are like stumbling on $25 each time you complete
latent grotto
only the 140 server has no alliance event or all of them? at the last hunt event there was another allianzevent
halcyon briar
Seems to be no alliance event this time
latent grotto
strange otherwise there is always one๐ค
halcyon briar
Yea
latent grotto
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> can you please find out something about it? not that a Scopely Employee only with last power the soloevents has unlocked and now there lies around.๐
craggy hearth
<@&509691205798592532> instead of killing lvl 26 hostiles for the current events, can we have killing hostiles that match our ship power? I can't hit 50 68k kln patrol efficiently with only 50k ships. It would drain more rss than I'm earning
sharp ibex
use 2 ?
abstract gate
What OPS are you? ๐ค
sharp ibex
at level 22 I am glad I got my 64k NS
craggy hearth
I don't have an ns
abstract gate
Ah that explains it; make sure you invest as much into your ships as you do your other assets.
Stay at OPS without building/researching for a while if you need to.
craggy hearth
@abstract gate well tell that to the refinery, its been giving me common for all the 100k+ ive been spending
sharp ibex
what a waste of raw....
craggy hearth
Exactly no uncoms at all for the past few days
sharp ibex
I do get some. but output at 22 is low indeed compared to what you gotta put in
craggy hearth
Ive been mining 24/7 and nope no uncoms
craggy hearth
Dammit can we have more event rewards like the kln separatist event? Not the recent act of war event the one b4 that
devout talon
Thatโs probably how long the event will be up ;)
craggy hearth
I managed to get enough for a T3 Kehra the moment it exited shipyard from that event alone
I have so much useless G2 uncoms just sitting there, so maybe add in a trade in function to exchange g2 for g3
sharp ibex
still need to get the tri for it
craggy hearth
@sharp ibex i have a few million tri sitting as tokens from act of war
So no lack of tri its the uncoms
And the coms
Maybe there can be an achievement system, like for different ships, so depending on which ships not maxed, it opens and event for those ships. And we get g3 refined materials from them @abstract gate
void frigate
well...you dont get uncommons from mining (not even commons ๐ )
craggy hearth
@void frigate well i have so much raw materials but refining them only gets me commons
void frigate
thats normal for "lower" ops/refinery levels. the best way to get uncommons early on are events. especially the the refinery event. dont bother spending more then the 1750 raw material unless your ops/refinery is not at least at 26. it's a waste in my opinion.
abstract gate
Anyone bitching about the rewards for these 3 faction events clearly doesn't understand the value of faction credits, everything else in the rewards is a bonus. Credits are king.
low berry
Try to do upgrade on saladin with credits and youโre my Hero
abstract gate
Try to fight with lvl5 trash crew and you're mine
void frigate
depends on the situation. i like to get the credits, but atm they dont give me anything. i'm ops 27, collected enough credits for a bortas and centurion and cant really use the rest of the credits for officers because i cant get officer badges anytime soon.
thick pine
this event rewards is second best event in terms of rewards
you get officer packs, officer xp, uc and credits
at least for me, they are great
upgrading officers during officer event win win
abstract gate
Yep, I'd do it just for the credits
thick pine
getting my saladin and cent earlier than planned . win win
i do for all for of them !, 380 points for feds and done, waiting for the reset
rapid sky
@void frigate are all your officers at a point where you need badges to upgrade them further?
void frigate
not all. but i dont really care about most of the officers as long as they arent better than the cadett crew.
rapid sky
so are all your cadets maxed?
I'm also 27 and I have quite a lot of officers to promote still
hoping to get stonn promoted for example
thick pine
aren;t you 28 now?
rapid sky
nero/bones/kirk
not yet, gonna start ops28 tomorrow
and ๐ค for another PvE event before I finish ๐
thick pine
hehe
rapid sky
I want the normal PvE event, the one that gave me 24 UC cry/day ๐
charred prawn
ultimately the botleneck is uncommons which is probably why they are driving the credits recently it makes you feel like you are getting somewhere getting a faction ship then you realise you need 500 uncommon to upgrade it and it pushes you towards buying it as you just had progess
hazy gust
Hmmm --- 500 for lower tiers --- try 1800 for upper tiers (along with 150 to 200 3* rare)
charred prawn
yeh but that's only after you've got the first lot together ๐
it's all small steps to get you to give them money
rapid sky
lol well if they rotate the 2 events (PvE and faction hunt) then it would be good
of course it's not going to be enough to get your faction ship to T9 any time soon, but at least it gives a somewhat constant increase in UCs
thick pine
i know i can;t compete with someone who pays
atleast my base won;t be 1shot for an 800k saladin .. had both my kumi and vahklas in base and got 1shot
rapid sky
why not? you just have to wait longer ๐
you'll have your 800k saladin one day, like in 2022 or smth
thick pine
yeah :))))
by then there will be T4 ships rofl
or the game will be dead, one of both
rapid sky
lol
I'm not in any hurry after getting a sally
cause clearly all the rare/epic ships are worthless unless you can spend thousands on them...
tawny coyote
Hello to All. Is not the reward the problem is getting the rewards. The point system is so unbalanced. For killing a lvl31 you get 6 point and for a lvl32 you get 20 point. Could you get make it that for killing lvl31 get 15 point? I just stop playing the event because even using three ship at the same time could not get to finish the first tier and that using speed for about 2 hours.
abstract gate
Umm anyone else got this?
thin hill
don't become 28 unless you have all the 28 faction bps, even if you have all the cent bps it's not a good pve ship so be carefull
rapid sky
@median slate I don't think easily kill lvl32+ hostiles with a Kumari while also keeping repair costs sane is possible
My guess is, at T6 with no upgrades and fully leveled to 30 I might be able to kill around 15, that still required 5 repairs per faction
tawny coyote
Well I have three ships I use a mayflower at 390k a Kumari at 330k and a Saladin at 325k use all three of them killing lvl32 and lvl31 I spend two hours using speed up and could not finish the first tier of the Romulan event. Just took to long and too many resources. I when back to mining because I use most of my stock in the last bonuses refinery.
They have to make the point balance more and the repair time less so you donโt have to use speed up all the time. Plus you donโt get from hostile what you need to cut down the use of your resources. Why do we get steel? We should get dilithium and tritaniun.
Your right I was hunting kiln. Sorry.
rapid sky
@median slate lvl30/31 are much easier.... :)
tawny coyote
Yes I do.
rapid sky
66 which faction? Sounds a bit much, I can only kill around 50-55 rom/klin, fed has less hull so with Kirk I can end the battle sooner and get some more
Although I always mix some 31s
tawny coyote
If you kill lvl31 you get 6 point lvl32+ get you 20 points.
rapid sky
Could be if I only kill 30s 66 is doable
Yeah considering I do 1000 points with a mix of 30/31 I just can't be bothered too much
It's 2 rounds per faction
How much hull I have left at the end of the 2nd round isn't important
tawny coyote
They just make it impossible to get anything done at the rate they set the point system. The game should be hard. I just not playing the event until I upgrade all my ships but Iโm afraid if I do that they change the point system.
rapid sky
Care to post the full crew setup?
tawny coyote
So at what power are your lvl32 Klingon ?
@median slate and if you include the romulan too.
@median slate thank for the screenshot. If I understood correctly you got about 15 kill before repair?
@median slate I was try to kill Klingon and their lvl32 ship are around343,341 in strength.
I was using my mayflower and Kumari and try the NS and my new Saladin. Manage to kill a few lvl32.
granite zenith
Yeah... when I had that tier i admittedly was positively miserable. It takes another power up (close to 300k) to make it worthwhile on the kumari. So I had a choice at the time. 300 for a legionary and maybe be happy, or 100 on the legionary upgrade and use it on the kumari. I took the second choice and haven't regretted it for 3 events
rapid sky
hrm klingon ones seems to cause me more damage, and my setup is more defense focused (only 50% attach, 70% defense), I'll try and swap attack/defense around
I think they cause around 8-9K
fierce night
@thick pine lies. I highly doubt youre free to play at 27. What a joke.
round lava
Free to play...now that's my language.
ionic fox
anybody knows how long will the event last?
pearl parcel
i am so glad they added the in game news channel. It is so nice to see a blank screen with no more information than before.
acoustic spear
@median slate I thought cadet bones didn't work, and you stack atk on a battleship?
wispy bolt
New ships yet?
barren night
@wispy bolt Sold it for some Romulan Ale
pulsar solstice
You do realize... Romulan Ale is illegal.
barren night
Only if you get caught
upper knot
Anyone know where I can find level 34 Romulan explorers?
rapid sky
If you can reliably end the battle one shot earlier that's usually more effective
Btw what about livis instead? He should be adding quite a lot of hull
abstract gate
This faction hunt event could not be less worth the effort
cloud grail
I don't know @abstract gate it is worth it for me
alpine yoke
^ I'm getting loads of officer xp and chest tokens, plus the uc
abstract gate
Depends on ship strength and faction level.
scenic cloud
It,s a great event. You should be grinding everyday, now you get rewards for your efforts
And I killed chat
abstract gate
My faction rep is too high apparently. I get only a few kills before needing a repair.
alpine yoke
I'm not sure how the faction rep plays into it? The levels you have to kill are based on your OPs level
steep stream
Yeah, not faction rep - it's your ops
scenic cloud
I am at 30 currently
steep stream
I just went to 28 so sucks for me, but will be better next time with some ship tiering
alpine yoke
yeah, it gets worse higher up cause of the way power scales on hostiles, imo
abstract gate
Coincidence perhaps that itโs the same level as my daily faction kills.
alpine yoke
what level are you Super?
abstract gate
Those are based on faction rep
steep stream
Yep, coincidence.
abstract gate
26
steep stream
Ops + 4 = the 20 pt award
steep stream
So for me the jump from 31 to 32 hurt a bit
alpine yoke
Basically you can end up on the high end or low end of your bracket. Even numbers get the worse of it
abstract gate
I usually try to look at an event like I am trading the rss to repair, for whatever the reward.
scenic cloud
@abstract gate exactly
abstract gate
As if a straight up purchase, but I am having to dump a ton of trit in this one
alpine yoke
yeah, I can understand the tri cost being painful, along with how long the repair times are now
scenic cloud
Lol, it's called raiding,. The hard part is digging out the 1b steel
abstract gate
Iโm grinding away regardless of my whining. More than anything, can always use faction credits
alpine yoke
yep, need to be able to upgrade those officers
random question but are daily events the same across every server? We have a station event and a ship event running right now
the normal events, not the special ones
abstract gate
Same on server 22
scenic cloud
Same on 16
sand marten
Hello
dense wolf
Terrible events continue
thick pine
@fierce night nope i didn't lie, i am f2p and i reached 27, i know there is at least 1 more fps here on this discord who is lvl 28
Depends on your alliance, they help me a lot when i was under 22 crack bases for me to get rss to grow
Now i crack bases for others ^^
F2p*
chilly thorn
I am F2P too, and in 2 days level 26
thick pine
F2p got the store like that ^^
Nice Michi, rdy to get the horizon? xD
Got mine at 130k str T4, need 2 upg and i'll go to T5 and most probably stay there, gonna start saving crystal for saladin
halcyon patio
@thick pine Are you from Romania? ๐
halcyon patio
Me too ๐ server 142
thick pine
we're on the same server
142? hmm aren;t we on 153? or you're in another alliance named rise ๐
just said something on gc about recruiting :))
halcyon patio
yes, i'm in rise second alliance in power
thick pine
heh
halcyon patio
Still I don't know who are you in game ๐
thick pine
V is not recruiting, do not pm me ! we don't want you here! <- my new recruiting slogan
tawny kettle
Thats alright, prefer red bull myself...
tawny kettle
Getting there, only fifty more years grind
thick pine
haha think i'm 45 years away
tawny kettle
My great great grandkids will get a shiny new enteprise lol
thick pine
question is can they tier it up to 5 at least??
we need that bank building faster, deposit and get weekly double the deposit or more !
tawny kettle
Deposit ten k lat, have enough for a fac ship in just fifty years!
thick pine
but i have 400 lat atm ๐ฆ
tawny kettle
Hey scopely, u need a layby system! Buy an ent now, pay later..
thick pine
:)))))))))))))))
tawny kettle
Tritanium etc costs not included
thick pine
sign me up
winged tulip
How long is this faction kill event going on for?
halcyon patio
@winged tulip
thick pine
boosted refinery after? ๐