Last event I went from getting all 4 tiers in an hour at ops27 to being not only impossible but not worthwhile when I completed ops 28 to get that 4th dock. Helps a lot with mining, but not where near enough on the event side since you still really only use one or two ships at the same time.
#🏆-event-chat
icy oxide
abstract gate
Well for me at lvl 16 the solo challange was easy, but the leaderboard is just a joke i dont even bother, i have to kill lvl 17 for 5 points, welll ok i could manage that , but killing lvl 22 for 25 points??? After about half way through the event the No 1 is at 80k points, which means i need to kill more then 15k Lvl 17 hostiles, i dont think i could even do that even playing 24h straight
So why they bother to design a event that isnt done so everyone can compete is a waste of time in my opinion
exotic willow
Poor play testing, or more like no play testing............ sigh thing is our server would gladly play test for them
outer herald
Hey guys
abstract gate
@icy oxide can feel with you. Since i’ve hit 28, I feel like I’m getting rewarded with an extra load of frustration and desillusion.
vague carbon
Now I'm gonna have to play angry birds as a rebound
Gotta spend that cash @abstract gate. Scopely ain't cheap
Grade A prices for Grade D gameplay
exotic willow
@vague carbon Its like crack, thats why you cant let it go man 😂
vague carbon
You're right!
abstract gate
I’m ready to pay a fair share for a good and stable game. Can’t find none of that atm.
vague carbon
This is gonna take a while to get over @exotic willow. I hope you guys don't mind my random ranting everytime I pull muy phone out from the missing habit.
I want all my freakin money back. This game was and still is a turd.
an expensive turd taboot
abstract gate
@vague carboni want the same but nothing happens, so fuckin typically for scopely
exotic willow
@vague carbon Noooooooo, this game is great! its got Soooooooo much potential, hang in there, give you some positive contructive feedback, some real solutions, put your energy into that, you are part of the STFC family!!!!!
vague carbon
Scopely don't care bro
There's still fresh blood falling for the traps and buying lots of packs
abstract gate
It’s like a big glowing sign “thanks for your money, no go somewhere else”
vague carbon
This game is just a money grab
indigo fiber
Neither do I you guys. have fun with that shit event.
brave crater
Fuck scopely and this shitty event
vague carbon
I already uninstalled. This is just my breakup ranting
brave crater
Right behind you. Now just gotta get my refund from this garbage
vague carbon
I caught on about 3wks ago and it took me till this event to finally pull the plug
exotic willow
Cmon everyone, please keep this thread online with the event feedback, we want change, but straight out ranting and abuse is not going to help the cause.
vague carbon
Yeah.. sorry @exotic willow good luck
abstract gate
In my darkest hours I think sometimes let's hack this fuckin grab
indigo fiber
Neither is the brains behind this event.
vague carbon
@exotic willow you're a real trooper. In the end it will be just you and scopely
Scopely really loves you.. I can tell
vague carbon
...?
vague carbon
I see
exotic willow
gotta see the light side of it 😉 its is a game after all
brave crater
Right lol a “game” pretty broken one I’ll say
dapper drum
they should have also tiered the solo leaderboard
20-24, 25-29, 30-34, 35-39 etc
nobody below 30 is going to even come close to competing with the top 10
vague carbon
I think it's ironic the only bp reward is 1st place for 10 intrepid prints, bit of you get 1st place you've obviously got adm intrepid already at least
As long as people buy lvl26 faction ships for $200, scopely sees mission accomplished. They don't care about playability
dapper drum
I gave up spending once I saw how much a tier 6 component cost for G3 ships
not going to spend 1200$ per tier
vague carbon
You're gonna have a ton of lvl24 buying thier way to lvl26 ($300) then buy a mayflower ($200) then an upgrade pack($100) before they realize they need 5 upgrade packs
And by then scopely will have grabbed $600 from a ton of people. This game is just a money grab
dapper drum
I have 3 weeks for my last component on my Kumari to get it to Tier 6
vague carbon
And some will be like in for a penny in for a pound and buy 10 upgrade packs
And if you make it to lol 28 you can buy a saladin for 500 and a bunch of ultra ship packs
dapper drum
I'll be at 25 for atleast another year if the game survives that long
vague carbon
This game is more expensive that a new Chevy
dapper drum
since February I've bought 3 monthly packs a jelly BP pack and NS BP pack
vague carbon
But they get you one hit at a time so you don't see it coming until you get to lvl 34 and realize oh crap an enterprise costs $4,500
This was the first month I didn't buy a monthly pack
dapper drum
I've been grinding everything else
vague carbon
I got the jelly and jelly upgrades, ns and I never crossed paths until I had 2 horizons
dapper drum
the BB was atleast free with 6 days of patience
vague carbon
I didn't do the augment event. I was too busy trying to repair the faction rep scopely destroyed when they rolled out augment expansion and wouldn't fix
Scopely is a crooked company if ever I saw one.
they back you into corners (accidentally) that you have to pay your way out of
dapper drum
I'm glad I didn't get hit with that bug
I spent last 4 weeks getting dual faction because they decided to add the loyal badges, but without paying your way every day you cannot achieve final chest above lvl 22
need dual faction dailies for that
vague carbon
Right
This game is just a money grab against people who love star trek and play phone games
They crooked
vague carbon
They aren't even shy about it
dapper drum
code in a bug on purpose multiple times then say a fix is on the way but you can buy this pack in the mean time to mitigate it
vague carbon
It's sick
You lose cash items to glitches like ships getting attacked at warp and scopely customer support won't even compensate.
or spend $300 on an alliance event and half the people in the alliance don't get rewards because scopely glitched and said they all quit when they didn't, and scopely won't fix it
So much stuff scopely breaks and won't fix our compensate, they just push cash packs instead
dapper drum
I love the people who buy packs then go AFK for 15 minutes and come back empty
yeah they should have bubbled, but really all bought resources should be in tokens
vague carbon
Scopely is crooked
They know if a spender gets raided they have to spend again
It's part of the baited hook
Scopely has this cell phone game scam scoped out. They know how to hose people
dapper drum
still where is our tokens for event store
vague carbon
A guy earlier was complaining that he lost his faction ships to a glitch when his server merged and scopely wouldn't fix that even. And faction ships cost BIG bucks
thick pine
@vague carbon same thing happen to me
lost all my fed rep 😐
6k rep left of untrustworthy
vague carbon
Scopely is super crooked. This game is just a money grab. It's not meant to last
thick pine
so many fed credits lost.......
vague carbon
Buy more rhade.. They will never fix your loss.. it's against thier policy. Not fair to the other players
dapper drum
then they really won't care for you
stray tide
both times they fk´ed up something with money spend, i got refund off rss. But yes it could be better service
thick pine
ofc they won;t
i didn;t get my missing 4 epic kirk shards
or my lost fed rep and all those credits
vague carbon
I've never been refunded for any of thier "glitches " except when I went through Google. Scopely didn't care how much you beg them to fix thier mistakes.
dapper drum
lets just all be glad we didn't take up the position that Panic did
couldn't imagine being scopely scapegoat constantly thrown under the bus.
vague carbon
Lol he don't care either
It took me a while to realize it
I finally uninstalled stfc today. Donated all my res and hopped off the crazy train
I realized it about 3 weeks ago and it took me this long to wise up
I wish I would have realized it before I spent so much money
"Keep playing and some day we will make this a fun game for everyone! "
More like, how much more can we get out of these saps before game over
Stfc is nothing more than a cash grab scheme with star trek painted on its face
dapper drum
if you have the time and don't mind being planted while playing try STO
only reason I play STFC is because its mobile
rich cedar
Last time this event was on I nearly quit as it was so geared towards who had spent the most it was demoralising. This time it appears to be even worse. Going to spend the next week mining. if the next event isn't a massive improvement I'm quitting.
dapper drum
this time it has better rewards, last time it was a huge grind had to complete in 8 hours instead of 24
but last time it also gave tokens you could use in event store for NS prints
well the NS prints showed up mid event after people already spent their previous earned tokens
vague carbon
As long as you don't play it to enjoy it @dapper drum you couldn't have a problem
I think we're on the same server. I'm number 9 on your res raided list
dapper drum
yeah I know who you are in game
vague carbon
Spend Cash yo
thick pine
you were !
vague carbon
Used to be MrChristopher
thick pine
you you are MrChristopherleftthegame ^^
vague carbon
Yeah now I am
thick pine
how much did you raid? how many millions? xD
vague carbon
My first clue should have been the facebook ad that said "customize your own ship" by the time I got to lvl20 I knew that was a lie
thick pine
on my server i;m #59 with 77.5M xD
thick pine
rofl customize your ship? :))))))))))
vague carbon
I already uninstalled but I think I was close to 300M
thick pine
with dead bodies
vague carbon
@dapper drum how much did I raid?
dapper drum
507m
vague carbon
he'll I would have been satisfied choosing the color or name
dapper drum
1/5th of Ronihawk
did you see the commercial they have for the game?
that was a lie
thick pine
dayum you guys got a monster raider in your server
dapper drum
#1 is 2,312,458,000
thick pine
687m is #1 on my server
vague carbon
F ronin hawk. I blame most of this in him. He spend 30k on this game so they figure $100/wk is a fair projection from the rest of us
dapper drum
lol he's spent way more then that
vague carbon
He has an auger and that costs $4,500US jyst for the ship
This game is nothing but a quick money grab.
dapper drum
its a long moneygrab
they will keep it going as long as people are buying and they are not spending
why I'm done spending and staying at 25, until I have maxed every G3 ship and my NS and my BB I will not continue to 26
if its still around by then
awww they banned him
candid goblet
Could someone please ScreenShot the Event Rewards now, I heard the Tritanium Rewards at each Tier has been increased
thick pine
at lvl 25 i;m getting 875k trit + a 300k token ^^
fresh bramble
at lvl 26 i am only getting 290000 trit
buoyant idol
For the solo?
fresh bramble
for me that is all
candid goblet
They must still be waiting to update the event for eu later if they have decided to change
rapid sky
yeah 24-25 gets much more trit, but less UCs
kind of the same as they did in the augment faction store last event...
buoyant idol
I got 1 of each token rare xtal and some other odds
candid goblet
@rapid sky So they put in One hand and take away from the other?
buoyant idol
At the top tier... + all the other 3 tiers
fresh bramble
I can get a total of 45 of each type of uncommon, if I complete the solo event
buoyant idol
Been like that since I saw the event about 14hrs ago
devout talon
@thick pine could you post a screenshot please?
spiral forge
on the pvp contest, do you necessary need to have a faction ship?
candid goblet
To be fair to Community Managers, they have put in a lot of effort to increase these rewards and they are the link from Scopely to us, they cant sort everything but they can be our voice, whether or not the others listen is a different matter. If they cut down the Uncommon Resources then they will make themselves look greedy which I am sure is not the intent as we would not have had this issue with the Tritanium in the first place if the initial rewards were satifsfactory.
thick pine
kk, sec @devout talon
fresh bramble
For me to complete I still need to do another 10 runs which will cost me over 800000 in trit plus probably all my repair speedups
meager galleon
Your first tier reward is better then lvl 28
rapid sky
@candid goblet didn't get you
devout talon
thank you
thick pine
yw
candid goblet
@thick pine perfect, deffinately looks like they chopped down the Uncommon RSS - but you are level 25 i got more at 26.. We shall see later hopefully
buoyant idol
I got total :
1 rc
58 uo
57 ug
400 cg
1875000 trit
187000 dil
1875000 steel
meager galleon
buoyant idol
So 1.875Million steel and trit
I am lvl24
meager galleon
candid goblet
Sorry just read
meager galleon
These are the lvl 28 rewards and point requirements
buoyant idol
I only had to get 9M points
meager galleon
Which are almost useless because about 5 people globally have Khan
candid goblet
Ok this is great, we just need a level 26 from US who have these changes already to Screenshot them so us over at the EU servers have something to potentially look forward too
meager galleon
These are my current rewards from start @ EU btw
buoyant idol
I have had that since 2hrs after the event came out
candid goblet
@meager galleon Maybe the point requirement will be looked at, its way too high
meager galleon
I also don’t get how Khan is fitting for a Klingon event
buoyant idol
Unless it changed in the first 2 hrs while i was sleeping... But no one on the server said it did
rapid sky
at 26:
1 rare cry
45 uc ore
45 uc cry
45 uc gas
290K trit
187K dil
650 premium recruit
buoyant idol
Sad
meager galleon
To me it seems like they want to give those Khan shards to the whales that havnt got him yet from Augment
Khan being a reward makes no other sense
buoyant idol
Quite a few people on our server have h
Khan
meager galleon
Whales ?
buoyant idol
Lvl 29s up... So yeah.
meager galleon
I participated quite actively with a tier6BB from start. I’m about 400K rep off final rep tier to even start collecting his shards
buoyant idol
I did a bit better but no rare plut till lvl29... Scotty +5 helped a lot 😂 😂
About 125k away from khan
Being able to empty yarda in 60 minutes is nice 😜
rapid sky
unless you had high level OPS during the augment event there was no way to get to 1M rep with them
I think at 24/25 I only got to 250K by the end of the augment events
could have been more if I was in a different alliance, but not much more
buoyant idol
You need lvl29 to be able to buy rare
tame pebble
@twilit imp Solo leaderboard should be tiered, we cannot compete with level 30+ players
hardy parcel
@tame pebble we should tier the leaderboard by spending not level. 🤣
buoyant idol
There's really no good way to do it. Pick sn evil
A p2w lvl24 will destroy a p4f lvl24
hardy parcel
Seriously though the leaderboard should be tiered by level. How you can expect level 26 to compete with level 33 or 34 I have no idea
buoyant idol
It's lesd about competing, and more about placing in a server ranks.
If everyone played exactly the same we'd all rank on power. Play a bit harder and get above your peer
hardy parcel
When there are prizes up for grabs, it is unfair may as well just hand out goodies to the top people. There should be separate events with the rewards tiered by level.
dapper drum
yes because someone under lvl 30 can compete with a 39
and those 30-38 will have to work 50x harder to compete with the 39
buoyant idol
It's the same as running marathon.... I could train for a year, but a professional runner who does it for a living will blitz me....
You can't compete at that level if you're not at that level
And when they are that has pros and cons as well... You end up with the guy that has time and money for a personal trainer vs the guys that don't and cry foul cause the winner had more privilege....
As I said everything has pros and cons... There is no right solution. You have to pick an evil...
I am level 24...I have a tier9 northstar. I don't think any other lvl24 on my server has one. Sure i would love a level 24 event which my ns excelled in... But I would win.. And would it be any fairer to the other 24s who couldn't compete at my level?
rare inlet
LVL 26 Rewards.. It sucks. No 1M trit token. No 1M par token. Only 45 uncommon each in total. And 19M points to reach - either kill 400 x lvl22 Elite or 19 times smash 200k kumari into Boss (no rank points unless you kill the boss).
rapid sky
I wouldn't call it "only", but given that 24-25 gets over 100 UC gas/ore plus a lot more trit makes no sense
I don't care about steel, I think the prem recruit token worth more...
jaunty spindle
@twilit imp, can you check whether it is really intended that the event gives better rewards at level 25 than at level 26?
thick pine
for my lvl 25 is ok and the rewards are good !
digital vine
So much work for very little gain
granite musk
Lvl 28 is garbage unless you’ve spent for the sally and can kill bosses
I’d need to kill over 2500 hostiles to get the top reward. Rewards are great but that’s way too much time to invest
It took me 1.5h to get 7mil points so I decided to throw the towel in 😂
rapid sky
24/25 is well balanced I think
26 needs better rewards, but I do like the UC crystal which I need 😃
ember bay
i cant afford the repair time lol, i need to wait 2.5 hours each time my ship is destroyed. Not worth me doing the event 😦
digital vine
For me 1st reward is 22.5million point to gain 30k titanium. I could mine that faster using a warship
Hitting lvl 22 elites, that's 7.5million reds to hit!
craggy hearth
@ember bay haha this is why you stay low level until you're ready
rapid sky
@craggy hearth there's nothing you can before you're actually lvl28 to try and balance it
ember bay
im level 24 with everything maxed and im using a 200k kumari but it all comes down to repair cost
rapid sky
@digital vine each lvl 22 elite gives 42K points, so redo your math 😉
but still it's a crazy amount
craggy hearth
@ember bay true true
@median slate they need a elite hostile catered for every lvl
rare inlet
Boss ships are good for lvl28 with Saladins, because you need to kill the bosses to rank in leaderboard. You can orchastrate a boss raid with alliance, but only 1 gets the points to rank. For 26-27 lvl players there are no good enemies to grind. The lvl22 Elites give too little points to reach the rewards. And the rewards suck.
craggy hearth
I realised you need to be at least 3 lvls above elite to hit them comfortably and around 5 to 6 lvls above boss to hit them
and yes @rare inlet the rewards suck, too much dilithium to defend
they should have tokens we can spend in event store
digital vine
Not much gap in reds between a lvl22 at 65k strength and lvl26 at 2.3mil strength right?
At 2.3mil strong they really level 26 at all are they?
hardy parcel
@twilit imp I think the rewards are not as good as the last event. The batleth store was awesome. Hope it is coming back at some point.
spiral forge
i like this event. But it was much more fun laste time, i used to be lvl 23 or 24. Now im lvl 26, and for lvl 26 it sucks, cant do anything at pvp cause dont have faction ship yet, cant compete against boss at all, and kill 440 lvl 22 makes you idiot
rapid sky
@digital vine they are "elites", the 65K at lvl22 is similar to a lvl27 non-faction NPC
@spiral forge yep, previous event I was 23 and leveled up to 24, 23 was perfect, 24 more difficult but doable with the right ship
neat plover
What level do you have to be to get the rewarda shown on the event page when you log in? I have nothing like whats shown
tame pebble
those are learderboard rewards
mental phoenix
@spiral forge at lvl28 you have to kill 2000 lvl22
merry fulcrum
@mental phoenix easy solution, you don't do it
gray pebble
@twilit imp - as a early lvl 24 (haven’t got the kumari yet) I think the rewards are perfect for this event.
Took me 4hrs to complete yesterday, and had to reinvest 700k of the trit I had won, but the rewards make it worth completing.
mental phoenix
@merry fulcrum of course i don‘t do this. It sucks!
merry fulcrum
Wonder why? 🤔
dapper drum
glad I stayed lvl 25
took me 209 kills, 2 kehras at 135k power and 4 NS at 195k power
proven patio
@twilit imp
The PVP Part of the Event is a big fail again...
On our Server it is just possible to reach if you find someone to "trade" the kills... but 20 Kills with a reward of 375k Trit?? ... and what about the people didnt find a buddy for that?
dapper drum
who needs a buddy
just go balls to the walls killing all faction players
"invite" them in under the pretense of sharing kills
proven patio
On our Server there are no faction players in these systems...
merry fulcrum
Lol, good luck getting kills
regal parcel
@gray pebble kind of agree with you,last time event was run i did ok ( especially after rewards were revamped) sad to see rewards have gone backwards free then. However, this time around I'm lvl 28 (just) and it's ridiculous, it appears as though everything is set for those who have maxed faction ships, ignoring the fact that just because i am now able to start building one ... doesn't mean I have the parts.
I think another tier between 28 and 30? Is needed, the have and have nots
Currently I'm competing against lvl 34/36 players with maxed Intrepid when I still haven't started a Saladin
... ffs @twilit imp
merry fulcrum
They won't change anything, its scopely, and they've failed a majority of the community's expectations which is a good functional game
tiny flame
And yet.. people keep spending.. gotta love the world we live in
twilit imp
So, we're looking into revamping the Tritanium rewards since it's clear they're not enough
This should be in place for the next round of event
winged tulip
How do we get the lvl26 faction bps apart from £?
Any feedback on kill numbers for lvl26+ if you can't take on bosses yet?
small lichen
Lvl 28 player, no faction ship, 90 mil points required for solo. Not even made first tier of points. Event needs a serious rethink. To buy a faction ship i still would not have enough bp to get it after spending just short of 200.00 pounds. I have 12 mayflower, 40 from each pack maximum of two.. 92 bp. ?? 200.00 and would still not own it. Faction players completed solo quickly others who does not have faction cant compete. Unfair event..
tame pebble
@twilit imp what about level based leaderboard?
merry fulcrum
@twilit imp good step up, but I think trit shouldnt be the only thing maybe some recruit tokens or a way to obtain bps for ships relevant to a certain level, like the north star for me, I'd love to have one, and I'm a f2p
dapper drum
yeah last event you could trade the tokens for NS bps
but no event store this time
no tokens
thick pine
lvl 25 got 193k kumari need 208 kills ( not 209 :p ) 7 kumari runs and half to get the 9m points cap done
so like around 300k ish trit is what i lose but i gain much more ! so the lvl 25 rewards are perfect !
some unc crystal would be nice but eh ore is needed more atm for me
dapper drum
I don't use my Kumari it doesn't need the experience and you are fighting interceptors with a battleship, so you are getting more armor piercing done on you taking more damage
thick pine
tried my vahklas 145k but meh
killing less and it has 2h repair time
kumari has 2h 20m so kumari ftw
dunno why but repair timers on vahklas are dogshit, WORSE than pre khan
dapper drum
my kumaris is 3h04m
repair and costs are component tier based
so can be estimated by the power level
thick pine
what strength is your kumari at?
small lichen
Also to add, with no boss kills the sepratists is woukd have to kill for 90 mil per day given 43200 points per kill would be 2083.33 kills. Repair time, trit requirement etc. Just not level based event, very disappointed.
dapper drum
260k
thick pine
i'll upg the armor on it tomorrow when i;ll have enough uc ore and will jump to 215k str xD
dapper drum
its tier 5 with 1 missing tier 6 component and thats the phaser weapon
or the kinetic its the weaker weapon
thick pine
with this event it's gg
dapper drum
I have the parts and commons
thick pine
i'm running out of common ore .. rip
dapper drum
barely have the trit after working up my NS
dapper drum
from 20 to 25 I have spent 112m trit on buildings/tech/ships
thick pine
but the event gives a nice amount of trit tho!
thick pine
auch that must trit?
dayum
dinged 25 recently
working to get my r&d to 25.. darn vaults
dapper drum
my Vhaklas is 220k my Kehra is 135k my NS is 195k my Kumari is 260k
base is fully built
thick pine
nice !
dapper drum
almost all station techs done, got some combats left to do
thick pine
kehra kinda skipped just builted it and that;'s it, went for vahklas a bit up to 145k and now kumari at 193k
rapid sky
@twilit imp are you also revamping the amount of points needed? killing 460 NPCs is taking too much time 😃
thick pine
researched almost all and need to build that rd to 25
some buildings are left to get to 24 and then,, rip to 25 !
not doing that great and neither that worse considering i;m f2p
and got a luck of luck on epic kirk have mine at 3k strength atm
ton of luck* rofl
merry fulcrum
@thick pine no luck for me
merry fulcrum
Alright, got a kehra upgrade from it, it's now up to 42k 😁
thick pine
i'm done with it and wiating for the next, meanwhile grinding that fed rep 6k left !
what's your event cap?
thick pine
double with your ships?
merry fulcrum
I can do a run with my turas and get 10 lvl 17s
thick pine
for me yeah it;s ok, using some speed ups
merry fulcrum
So about 12 runs for me to get all rewards
thick pine
got other stuff to do than waiting 2h 20m for my ship to repair tho
merry fulcrum
With one ship
merry fulcrum
Repair time is 28min
thick pine
ok that's gr8 !
merry fulcrum
I'm doing the last repair research
merry fulcrum
Whichll lower it to about 25 as an estimate
merry fulcrum
K I'll do so later, can't hop on right now in the building I'm in, no service, and wifi doesn't allow me to play it
merry fulcrum
Sure
But event is benefitial for my level, I'd prefer to get more stuff from it though, it's a long grind to finish it unless I use speed ups
And I can't compete for these 😁
meager galleon
Nobody can; it’s there to look flashy.
meager galleon
Two or three people get a chance per server to compete, it’s almost false advertising honestly
Get people’s hopes up they have a chance at those rewards for the event
meager galleon
Turns out, no actually YOU can’t get those
thick pine
tho i remember having 139/200
bot no use making a ticket ill get another bullshit response about server desync like before :\
merry fulcrum
Yeah ranked events should have ranks until 250, and they should offer actual stuff, not minimum rewards
thick pine
rofl #1 on my server in the event has 47k points while i have only 5.3k :))
merry fulcrum
Have bps at a reward for everyone until after top 100
thick pine
so no use trying to get in the top 50 even rofl
merry fulcrum
Then put in something like the ns for the next 150
Better yet put epic ship bps as top reward and keep them until they reach the top 25, then go to the rare faction ship
Thatd be worth it
cloud grail
Lv26 and 27 are in the same tier? Seems our 28s got screwed.
I'm at 26 and I got this done. So personally the solo was okay, the PvP in not doable, the ranking is not for me.. can't compete with the higher tiers.
winged light
The rewards are updated?
28+ was 90M, so unfortunate for them
I was about to become 28, it seems got lucky!
spiral forge
and say that i was 25 two days ago...
merry fulcrum
@spiral forge you've been scopelyd
spiral forge
why do i press the green ready button three hours before this event 😂
@merry fulcrum : completely!!
merry fulcrum
You think it's a good thing to level up, but congrats your put into a completely new league without ships ready for it
abstract gate
Yeah, at level 34, I'm competing with 39, which I suppose is fine, but the dilithium costs are not something I recoup, and it's not as if dilithium is really in the rewards at any level of worth (if at all!).
The PvP event causes alliance drama, so that's a no win.
@merry fulcrum Well, there ain't exactly guidelines for what your ship power should be at each level either.
And people confuse levels with power, etc, etc. So people make that kind of mistake because they don't know it's a mistake.
abstract gate
and it's not like the missions make sense at any level.
Well, maybe if they shared what they 'think they should have them' at, that might be a good guideline for players.
abstract gate
yeah... I got people above my level with 1m powered ships, I'm running 600 to 700k ships... meh. Can't place in the event against those guys, so why bother?
merry fulcrum
P2w baby!!
abstract gate
it's not like I'll get my dilithium back. LOL
I mean, an event like this, where's the dil reward?
merry fulcrum
Being a f2p has its benefits, when Im raided I lose rss when a p2w is a raided they lose money
I have a good dilithium reward, about 50k for the solo
abstract gate
well, I'm a mix. I grind my ass off, and I do pay, but I like grinding more because of the challenge. I P2W because of PvP to keep ahead of the troll players.
merry fulcrum
You mean the people who are killing all the miners?
abstract gate
The overall winning board will always favor the bigger players -- it makes sense. The solo events should be doable by everyone. Which is why the 90M solo boss should be adjusted for 28-30 players
meager galleon
Yet I’m betting it will be day 2 for the lvl 28s getting screwed (ones without faction ships)
rare inlet
@merry fulcrum For most people time is money. When you are f2p, you invest time. When you loose rss, you loose time. How much is that worth to you is up to you.
smoky cosmos
No I not agree I'm lvl 28 I don't have faction ships. For me it is impossible to get the 90 mil points. So I stop with the event
abstract gate
@meager galleon mate I have a 400k payflower and 90mil is still out of my reach without burning about 1.5mil trit, 4-500k dili, 2k lat, speed ups and lost mining time because I still need to suicide 3 ships a run. @twilit imp lvl28+ solo milestones are way too restrictive
nova valley
@abstract gate takes more time, but park yourself over a spawn point for a level 22, MUCH cheaper, much more cost efficient. just takes more time. about 50k damage per kill. do the math lol
abstract gate
And grinding 2083 lvl22's is 10-11hrs of killing plus travel and repair times on top...
smoky cosmos
I must shoot 2100 reds to get 90 mil points
abstract gate
@nova valley i did the math...look up 2 posts
abstract gate
And I was being generous with the kill per hour there too
smoky cosmos
I know have 6 mil of points
nova valley
hahahahaha, yeah i see that. lots of kills... damn.
abstract gate
What us 28+ need is tougher hostiles (lvl26-28) as 22's just don't give enough points per kill
meager galleon
Feel my pain of a 290K Kumari trying to do this then 😃
Yes, something inbetween the lvl 22 and the Boss would have been ideal
abstract gate
325k kumari, 251k ns and 400k payflower all suiciding on boss takes me 15 runs...thats 45 ship repairs/event cycle
meager galleon
But you don’t like getting 200K Trit for your efforts ?! Well I never
abstract gate
The first seperatist event ANY faction hostile counted...was much more balanced @twilit imp
meager galleon
Don’t forget the fact that Khan has nothing to do with this event and he’s there because the whales are close to getting him from previous Augment event
But to the non payers and the large majority those shards are pretty pointless 😉
abstract gate
Useless even
vivid knot
Let's all just be honest, scopely screwed another event and we know it.
abstract gate
Scopely knows it too...we are being milked
signal halo
🐄
abstract gate
First seperatists event any faction hostile counted meaning higher lvl's could incorporate a portion of the event into their dailys, second event only seperatists counted and they removed the patrols so you couldn't afk farm points but we got an event store that made it more or less worthwhile....this time we just got screwed over.
Hopefully scopely feels they have milked their cash cows and will lower the high lvl milestones to a state thats achievable in a normal span of hours.
lethal grove
@gaunt yacht @twilit imp The PvP portion is kinda dead.
Solution?
Increase enemy ship numbers in the systems, and enhance the loot drops significantly. People will flock to get BP, and UNC resources from BOSS loot drops, and the poaching will trigger PvP. In addition, PvP loot drops in the contested systems should be similarly increased.
As it is now, people are only going to PvP if there's some cooperation, which isn't in the spirit of the event I imagine.
abstract gate
@lethal grove the spirit of the event is to bankrupt your rss so you buy packs, scopely doesn't gaf how you do it.
That's the real reason 28+ milestones are so high...because we spend
If you don't agree then it's clearly your first day playing a scopely game.
atomic shore
I get that you have problems on higher levels. Maby its not balanced... but on lv 23 the event is easy doable with a 160k ns without repair
abstract gate
Good for you 👏
PVP portion shouldn't require faction ships
IMO
Or require it 28+
When you can actually get them...
placid lark
@abstract gate do you have to have a faction ship to attack with? So a kumari cant kill a faction ship and score points?
abstract gate
I do, yes. The PVP event suits me just fine. The problem is they need tighten the tiers and adjust for levels
I can't look at these events from my perspective, lol.
Because I sit up high on a grand mountain
Also several people on my server are reporting that pvp event isn't counting legit faction vs faction kills anyway
candid goblet
Ladies & Gents wait till the next Event Starts then pop a thank you to @twilit imp. Saying nothing else now, but you can see he’s working hard for you all. Great Work 👊🏽🍻
abstract gate
If you got info spill it...if we want to be teased with vagueness we have <@&509690795536941056> for that
candid goblet
Check the rewards when the event starts soon 👍🏻
abstract gate
I don't gaf about the rewards...they are useless if they can't be achieved
Unless 28+ milestones have been significantly reduced the rewards are meaningless
3hr+ repair times on kumari and payflower 1hr30 on ns and slamming all 3 into a boss takes 15 runs to get 90mil points do the lat math
160k trit 30k dili a run...do that math
candid goblet
@abstract gate not sure about the milestones, I know people have pushed to get them massively reduced. At 28 it is a very unrealistic target and should be changed as a priority
abstract gate
And I have repair primes btw...I pity any 28+ attempting this without those.
candid goblet
Same with repair times too, everyone has asked for Khan repairs whilst the event is on which I think is very reasonable considering amount of stuff we have to destroy.
Let’s see what comes with the next event
abstract gate
So between payflower and primes thats 400€ just to stand an outside chance of hitting all milestones
Actually closer to 600€...payflower is t4 and thats m9ney too
winged tulip
@candid goblet Thing is, either you're just telling us what we already know from reading the channel, or you've got some inside information that should have been communicated properly to the channel. Either way, it stinks.
candid goblet
@winged tulip if you know already then great, I just think it’s nice that our CMs are working hard for us 👍🏻
I saw pics like you, not everyone has had chance to that’s all so good news is nice to read
abstract gate
Don't kid yourself they work for scopely...it just so happens a happy playerbase generates more revenue
candid goblet
That’s true also 👍🏻
Still nice when people listen though and try and help however big or small 🍻
abstract gate
The cm's do a tough job and do indeed help the playerbase a lot but it's still a job and scopely pays those checks.
merry fulcrum
@rare inlet I have time, but the time excuse isn't something to use for a game, it's never been, nor will it be a good reason to justify pay to win
abstract gate
I have 2 kids and a full time job, 12+hrs of grinding lvl22's is straight up unrealistic meaning like many others my lvl it's boss suicide runs or gtfo...seeing as pretty much any player at 28 or higher is a spender that's another slap in the face to us.
merry fulcrum
Yep that's why you should just do upgrades, rss, and then go do irl stuff, all this is, is a job, sit there and micromanage everything
abstract gate
The average age of a trekkie has to be north of 35yrs so most of the playerbase is statistically in the same boat
abstract gate
I'm 43...so that math checks out
merry fulcrum
Worth the investing? , I'm planning on sitting at 20 for a bit
abstract gate
I'd push for lvl24 and kumari then hold there...kehra tops out too early
merry fulcrum
I'm just planning on getting her to a point where i can brake bases with one or two hits
abstract gate
Gets costly in uc crystal then rares and at 20 you only have single batch refines...kehra is a stopgap ship untill kumari
merry fulcrum
Guess it's the first pay wall, tritanium, just to upgrade ships, I can still do base upgrades, but that might change as I was raided last night, notice my parasteel, that was at 2.2mil yesterday
Sleep is always the reason I get raided, fall asleep while farming ships, it's sooo boring
abstract gate
Btw @twilit imp if the goalposts are being moved for the event (again) will there be a loyalty chest to compensate those of us that bankrupted ourselves on the first day? (Also again)
merry fulcrum
What tier?
dapper drum
tier 6
merry fulcrum
@dapper drum
dapper drum
thats a tier 7 componenet
marble oyster
You need to raid..max your envoy and use uc's for prime hull/shields.. should be able to raid up to lvl 24/25 with your current research done..the kehra can't crack an egg..skip the vahk and go for the kumari
abstract gate
Getting kehra to around 100-120k is ok but I wouldn't push it any further...it becomes redundant fast
dapper drum
yeah Vhak is good, Kumari is great against sitting vhaks
merry fulcrum
I've got prime hulls and shields already
dapper drum
NS/Kehra only good cracking 20's and below
empty trellis
@twilit imp Where r the D3 an mayflower blueprints. Last time they had this event we earned them in the rewards. I have 18 of each an would like to know when I can get the rest for free by completing events
marble oyster
That's the way I got them too.. I did buy a ns..love that thing still (at 25)
abstract gate
@dapper drum worth it tho
marble oyster
Ya the rare crystal cost is insane
abstract gate
Worth it just for the warp range
marble oyster
I raid often so I usually don't care about the rss costs
abstract gate
Cheaper than a horizon to get to warp 40
dapper drum
only reason I'm tiering it
merry fulcrum
I cant raid too often, very few bases without shields
merry fulcrum
And most bases are barely over vault protection limits for their level, and I always assume that the vaults are maxed
What does pure trit, and pure dilithium do?
dapper drum
reduces costs for them
merry fulcrum
Are ships included?
dapper drum
well its for component costs
merry fulcrum
So it does?
dapper drum
its all it does
merry fulcrum
Good I'm going to work on it, instead of combat research for a bi
marble oyster
From what I've seen 23 and below almost never have their vaults maxed because it's not required to upgrade ops yet
dapper drum
if you use shields you don't need vaults 😉
merry fulcrum
I do it, just because it's a good practice, but all mine are lvl 19 rn, still gotta upgrade them
marble oyster
Very true darkprince
merry fulcrum
Well I'm a f2p, so if I'm always shielded, I'll run out eventuall
marble oyster
I've found it helps to watch GC and see who the drunks are..scout them out.. and raid them early saturday morning when they've passed out unshielded 🤣🤣
merry fulcrum
Don't have many of those, and they're higher levels, That I can't raid
marble oyster
What power is your envoy?
merry fulcrum
27k, and 20k
marble oyster
You need to Max one out
rough cloak
Rly do NOTHING for 28 players? Always 90.000.000 Points?! F U quit the game!
merry fulcrum
Upgrading the t6 one will put
it at 33kish
brave crater
🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕 scopely
rough cloak
⛔ Stop buy packs, only solution! (This message will be delete again) 😋😋😋😋
abstract gate
90 million points again? Fuck you scopely, I never by something for this shit
hidden swallow
Way to go scopley, event is still impossible, I give up with this game now,
mental phoenix
It is possible if you pay enough!
abstract gate
It was Rich OR Jobless you should focus on, not AND. I’m out too.
solid badger
Why can this not be bracketed like other leader boards?
dapper drum
1 NS gives 42 kills on lvl 22 elites at 7820 dil 34k trit and 1h09m repair
so 5 NS at around 200k power for level 25 rewards
not chasing the horizon really paid off ^_^
1m Trit/Par Token, 100k Dil, 1 Rare Crys, 30 UC3 Ore/Gas, 600k Trit, 50k Dil, 500k Par, 15 UC3 Ore/Gas, 400k Trit, 25k Dil, 8 UC3 Ore/Gas, 200k Trit, 12k Dil, 125k Par, 5 UC3 Ore/Gas 400 C3 Gas
round spear
@<@&509691205798592532>
Could you please explain how this used to be a Victory till couple hours ago
And now THE SAME kind of outcome has turned into Defeat????
round spear
Did someone put hands in the code to change it firvthe Event 2nd day???
dapper drum
ship was to high to know whats going on
round spear
oh, wait,
in the first case the final Hull was 97k vs 17k
in 2nd case 52k vs 115k
I guess when you reqach 50 rounds Battle limit, the winning ships is the one with more hull left
.
I wonder tho, same ship, same crew, same bridge
Same event System (Urthak)
Only upgraded Engine Lab to 34 in the meanwhile
didn't cross any Rep threshold... (and in case, I should have become better)
did anything change in Bosses?
I killed 200+ bosses in Event 1st day, and like 70-80 survived first attack with < 20k hull
Now in 2 attempts after 6pm foe the event 2nd day, they all kept 100/200+k
Having difficulty to track down what's changed
abstract gate
So the rewards have been buffed now don't think it's a gift. Events are particularly worked out and the client feedback is way behind the event "reporting" (aka profits made during the previous round). Most of hundreds of event I played on this game and others are following the "testing waters / bad rewards / good rewards" blueprint. It's all strategy and that strategy is aiming to grab money deep from your pocket.
round spear
read again:
SAME SHIP SAME CREW SAME BRIDGE SAME CAPTAIN
in over 200 attempts before event 6pm deadline, it never happened that the Boss hull remained higher than 20k, now after the deadline all of a sudden it changed to 100k and 200k?
A sudden variance fluke, for Kirk Morale rolls, and mitigation rolls?
upper narwhal
Anyone have a very good bridge crew suggestion for this event?
soft gate
@round spear can you go into the battle log and tell me how many rounds the battle lasted?
midnight badge
what are all the methods by which you can gain blueprints for this event? at level 22, i can only see the 10x bp award for the #1 spot in the solo leaderboard
im assuming im just too low level to see events or packs?
soft gate
@midnight badge only placing #1 will get you blue prints of any kind. If you’d like to purchase a faction ship you need to be 1) lvl 26 or above and 2) passed a certain amount of spending to even unlock the option to purchase a ship for $200.
round spear
When the battlecends and the enemy is not destroyed, I think it's always because the 50 rounds limit has been reached
That was the case before deadline when boss remained with 20k hull.
It's a long way tonscrll 50 rounds and I'm outside now, but I can't see how it couldcbecdifferent now, same condition same outcome.
Only the Boss Hull remaining is now 200k instead of 20k, and my hull remaining is 50kbinstead ofc100k
soft gate
How many data points do you have. If it’s just one, I would lead towards an outlier. You are correct that battles can only last 50 rounds. If it hits that point, the game uses some method to determine the winner (probably hull health remaining).
iron herald
Since the events reset today the messages are telling me I’m only getting +1 in the alliance and solo leaderboard events when I kill level 22 elites rather than +25. Others in my alliance noted the same. I put in a support ticket <@&509690795536941056> but if that’s accurate it needs fixing faster than support usually turns a ticket...
soft gate
@iron herald the +1 is a visual glitch. Points are being accumulated accurately.
iron herald
Confidence inspiring....
abstract gate
Same here, but my ability to put ticket in is gone. So i cant even send it in
iron herald
It caught my eye because my score wasn’t divisible by 25 and I’ve only killed level 22 elites. Comparing two subsequent messages it turns out we’re actually getting 26 points per elite...
delicate moth
25pts for the level 22 elite + 1pt per hostile = 26pts.
iron herald
Sure, but I bet most people would read it as “all other hostiles +1”
rough cloak
Lost every event day 75 3* materials. Why YOU @twilit imp do NOTHING to the ppl need 6 hours playtime and more for this fucking unbalanced event??????????
abstract gate
@rough cloak What level are you? I was able to complete top tier 9m goal for level 25 in an hour or two
rough cloak
28, 90.0000.000 with 200k Vahklas need 52 times destroyed ship, 500k Dilitium, 3.500.000 Tritanium and more than 6 hour playtime.
abstract gate
90mil took 1hr20min with speedy repairs slamming 3 ships at a time into bosses
rough cloak
If you have 400k plus ship
abstract gate
251k ns, 325k kumari, 425k payflower
rough cloak
Exacty 200k Vahklas, 250k Kumari
abstract gate
Cost a ton of dili, trit, lat and speed ups though but those unraidable tokens and uc made it worthwhile
The dilithium will be a write off for you but the trit tokens will at least keep you trit positive and those uncommons can't be valued...time is your only enemy with those ships
Goto fed system shield strip with vahk and pummel it with kumari
Maxing the event a couple of times should give you enough to tier up one or both too making the remaining events a little easier
rough cloak
This count for you, not for me. Fresh 28, payed 105€ last week for may pack and i am out during the hole event. Only this sucking greedy company @scopely can do this big bullshit.
split kettle
So I killed someone Saladin with my Saladin and no pvp point. Both Sallys were heavily damaged. Is there a lower limit on the damage to get a point?
abstract gate
I'm not gonna argue that it's easy, it really isn't but scopely can't exactly plan their events around your personal schedule
@split kettle were you in the right system?
merry fulcrum
Don't think so, scopely wouldnt be that big of a jerk
split kettle
and we got points yesterday
split kettle
@abstract gate seriously? Yeah I saw at the same time I was writing, it changes from day to day
just because
merry fulcrum
Ik, it's stupid
rough cloak
@abstract gate Scopley can't plan her own game? Yes they can't!
abstract gate
Nowhere outside that screen was it made obvious that this is the case
tropic imp
@@twilit imp Where's the compensation/corrections for not counting faction v faction kills in pareleon. Tickets get submitted, tri/rss burned only to have 15 pvp kills not count
Maybe @abstract gate can address
abstract gate
W...what?
round spear
@soft gate
On first event day, till 6pm today, I killed 200+ bosses, maybe 240, didn't keep count but got 120k in the Leaderboard event.
By "feeling" maybe not 40% but sure 30% ended with boss not destroyed.
NONE of those 60-70 data points ended with my defeat, that I could notice. Didn't check them all, but the samples I examined never left more than 20k to the boss. I'm counting battles with new, full healthy bosses, not with already damaged ones.
After 6pm, all of a sudden, things changed. I have been busy with PvP first, but I already have a dozen data points where a new full healthy boss ends with more hull remaining than my Mayf.
Before 6pm
60-70 attempts vs full healthy boss, not destroyed at end of battle.
NONE ended with my defeat
After 6pm
Same identical Mayf, except Engine Lab upgraded to 34
A dozen attempts vs full healthy boss, not destroyed at end of battle.
NONE ended with my Victory .
That's not a distribution curve.
That's a step function, a on-off switch
meager galleon
Wouldn’t surprise me
dense wolf
Watching repair timers is sooooo much fun
round spear
First time victory after 6pm vs full healthy boss, not destroyed
Have notched spock up 1 level, 25 to 26, and it feels like before 6am
Was it just a long streak of RNG outliers?
Very peculiar anyway
Btw,
This way first victory counts as an event kill, despite the Boss barely survived as a zombie, then I attack it again and kill it for good.
So I get 1000p by defeating the same boss twice
abstract gate
Nice...shame my t5 payflower can't manage that...470 uc gas short of t6 so no chance before this event ends. My enterprise crew is lower than yours too by the looks of it.
Is uhura better than bones in pf?
round spear
Only situational, and counterintuitive maybe.
Had to find out testing variants vs bosses
Maybe it's her accuracy bonus a scale factor to tip the balance, only effective on Explorer vs Interceptor.
Explorer attack strong point is accuracy already, and she enhances it further
But soon thereafter a defeat in draw again
barren night
Just a little math, I just turned 28 today... Miles stones jumped to 90M for hte top one, with in a 24 hour period. I am running 4 ships (Vahk, NS, D3, and Kumari) , The three warships have a 2 hour repair, the NS a 1 hour repair. To acheive the top goal of 90M points, I will have to have each ship do 10 missions each. THe problem with that is, there are not enough hours in the day to do this. Even when staggered it comes to greater than 24 hours. If the repair times were proper, this wouldn't be a concern. But, with the repair times being this high, and the points required being as high as they are. This makes the task impossible unless we drop alot of cash in to the game. I don't know what if anything can be done to help the average player. But any help would be welcomed at this point. I know the over all sentiment is Scopley doesn't care. I am holding on to a little bit of hope that they do. I understand on the founders server, on the tests servers this was an easily acheivable feat given the differences in costs to upgrad, procure, and operate a decent faction ship at this level. Right now, with the modifications that have been made since then, the challenge is a bit too much for those of us who have stopped spending, or have chosen to spend alot less. So, please, do what you can to address this. As, there is no real chance alot of us will have at acheving the top tier, unless this is as many have assumed just a way to reward the biggest spenders.
round spear
I can understand and accept more if it's an outcome on the brink, falling on either side with a bell distribution
.
Not 60 heads in a row then 20 tails in a row ;)
@barren night
Yes I couldn't do it without a lot spanners speeds stashed with packs bought in past months.
Then I'll have to begin consuming latinum
Then... I'll have to reconvert to green economy?
Also my CC gaming budget is running dry
barren night
That's it for me, My budget is gone for awhile. at least until the repairs become less of an issue than they are. I still say the Prime Repair is broken at the vary least
urban spire
I couldn't agree more with what @barren night has stated.. as an ops 26 18.75Million points... 90M at Ops 28? the disparity between Ops Levels is absurd and there is NO need for it....
round spear
And it's still 90M at ops 34
barren night
Well, atleast it's a range?
round spear
But in that event you get pts for Hull damage, not kill count.
5p for boss hull damage, 7p if using a faction ship
Boss Hull is 3.5M
7p x 3.5M = 24.5Mp
Killing 4 whole new bosses does the deal, and some
urban spire
@round spear if you have a faction ship....
round spear
Well, of course ... 😇
5x 3.5M = 17.5Mp
5 new bosses = 87.5Mp
Problem is, without a faction ship you'd need several coordinated runs to just kill one
halcyon briar
My Kumari can get about 5m points per repair if the shields haven't been knocked down yet, teir 5 with the phasers upgraded. It's kind of annoying that your only choice is to suicide ships but 150 uncommon ore and gas is pretty nice, on top of the other rewards
abstract gate
Takes me 10 runs with 3 ships...one a faction ship
Maybe I should try fed exploders and have kumari hit last? Doing kl8ng interceptors with payflower hitting last rn...pf 425k kumari 325k
vocal narwhal
if faction ships were half the cost Im sure a lot more people would buy them. I know I would
abstract gate
Ns in there too as a first hit shield bash
halcyon briar
@abstract gate I can almost garuntee you the mayflower will do better vs the explorer bosses
My friends centurion does
vocal narwhal
I waste my money on comic books not phone games.
abstract gate
@halcyon briar as the final hit?
halcyon briar
He's able to get it down to about 150k with just the cent
387k power, but has a 400% spock
merry fulcrum
@vocal narwhal 👍
halcyon briar
Either he or I hit again to finish it
abstract gate
Mines only 150%
halcyon briar
Yea with that he was able to get it into kill range for a Kumari
With 100% spock
But... The cent has more hull than the mayflower so your results may vary
abstract gate
So ns>payflower >kumari>profit?
abstract gate
I'll test tomorrow
halcyon briar
And may leave your Kumari alive for 3-4 kill shots
abstract gate
Not looking for kills necessarily just points per run
halcyon briar
Yea
abstract gate
Currently getting 9-10mil per 3 ship run....if I can up it to 12-15mil I'd be happy
halcyon briar
Put a burning crew on the Northstar
abstract gate
Not the kumari?...using enterprise crew on payflower
halcyon briar
Or better on the mayflower since it scores more points per damage done
I've only been running my Saladin, using Nero for burning getting 9m points per repair
Only tagging fresh bosses so losing some efficiency to shields
abstract gate
Worse is take 2 runs at a boss are 1min away for third kill run and it despawns
halcyon briar
@abstract gate if your goal is only points, burning crew on the mayflower probably. If your goal is to kill bosses keep mayflower max survival
abstract gate
Leaderboards are out of my league with the ships and rss available to me gotta focus on max points possible per run
abstract gate
I could probably be competitive grinding lvl22's for leaderboard but...ughhh
dark valve
I was killing it with my team and he healed
Don't get this.. Too much fun and rss spent to such disappointment
abstract gate
And by competitive I mean break the top 50...just not worth the time investment for me (kids, job etc come first)
halcyon briar
Yea. I ignored the leaderboard yesterday but gonna have a friend help me compete today because scopely decided I don't need uncommon crystal in the other solo events lol
Spoiler alert: I only need uncommon crystal 🤣
abstract gate
Fortunately my focus rn is payflower and kumari so crystal is a tertiary concern rn
halcyon briar
Yea I'm focusing on horizon and Saladin... I can't even use the ore on my Kumari because I need crystal for it too
abstract gate
525 uc gas needed to tier payflower again and 600 uc ore for kumari...event will go a long way towards both goals
halcyon briar
So really it's actually frustrating that I'm getting the rare crystal instead of 150 uncommon crystal per day right now
Yea it will
abstract gate
Horizon is next step after those 2...want a warp 40 miner thats not dependent on Scotty or 15k fed credits
abstract gate
Also sally quietly gathering bp's in the background lol
Ns is cheaper to get to warp 40 but needs Scotty to get there
Mines there already but now our server bully got himself a t4 saladin so that's too vulnerable with it's low protected cargo
halcyon briar
For sure. I could teir it soon but I'd rather teir my horizon at this point, wasn't high enough faction to get the mayflower when it first came out, then #payflowersux so I just saved all my fed tokens
placid lark
I'd still like to see some saladin BP drops, though I hear they're next to non existent
halcyon briar
Was about 4k short of a Saladin when I got 28, so bought a pack. But definitely could have waited
modern estuary
@twilit imp @native sleet bortas kills are not counting for pvp event
my teams have all reported it if you kill a bortas you dont get a pvp point for the event
native sleet
Will run it up the chain. Ty.
halcyon briar
They were counting for me yesterday @modern estuary
modern estuary
not now we have killed a few now and none counted also faction miners are not counting either
native sleet
I will also go take out my bortas and see as well.
halcyon briar
I think the miners aren't supposed to count, can't test myself for you at the moment
And I'm not sure there's a bortas on my server I can kill today, last one joined my alliance last night lol
Last one I could kill*
modern estuary
centurion killed a rom faction miner no points valkis and a d3 killed a bortas and the points were not counted
this has been repeated many times in the last few hours sice the event reset
faction ships miners included should count
kvort, antarres, valkis
vestal sable
Hey guy's why I'm not getting any PvP points in the feds system when I'm destroying with my d3 factions ship's ( bortas,valkis )??
Scopely also we pay so match and gaining none points for the event also that's robbery and are going to have ready big problems with that...😈
placid lark
Well, they do it by putting the offer out there and watch the cash roll in. If they rearranged the letters "Mayflower" to "Saladin" I'd probably buy it.
ocean bloom
They really are ruining this game for so many people. £200 for a Mayflower.... and that’s just the blueprints! £300 for Mayflower plus the upgrade pack. I mean, seriously. Who to thought this was the correct way to go. Just greedy and are spoiling the game for everyone. Wtf are they playing at
vestal sable
Also why the hell the android player's they don't have the small Gorkon pack, that's totally unacceptable scopely 😈😈😈
ocean bloom
Saladin, I might be slightly more tempted, but even so.
native sleet
@vestal sable its not Scopely who chooses to do those packs, its Android and Apple. Apple wants to do a promotion, asks, does it. Android will do something too soon.
Happens in a lot of games, like swgoh, android did packs all the time and apple never did..
vestal sable
Yes but can you explain me why I'm not getting the PvP points, while I'm loosing my rss to participate and finish the event ???
I can provide you with a photo's if you want ??
native sleet
Sure pm me those with your player ID please
ocean bloom
It’s also not worth the rss to do the event either. All of the repairs, all the speed ups, all the latinum.... it’s not worth the pathetic rewards given to justify participating in this stupid event
@native sleet I notice you aren’t replying to me 😂
native sleet
Not much I can do for you lovely. I am a mod, volunteer, so I dont set prices nor policy. 😢
I can however forward your statements to the right people @ocean bloom
ocean bloom
@native sleet pretty please do. Forward from “a disgruntled customer” 😂
native sleet
Will do.
ocean bloom
I don’t suppose you can speak to the Star Trek Discovery writers too? 😂 tell them to stop ruining Star Trek for me haha
native sleet
Haha noo, sadly not. Besides, I loved it
halcyon briar
What ops level are you @ocean bloom ?
lapis skiff
Any chance the interceptors could be switched out for battleships/explorers for a change? Or make them faction specific? Romu area is battleship separatists, fed is explorer and kling is the interceptors?
halcyon briar
That's how the bosses are
lapis skiff
Indeed. It would be nice if the lvl17 & 22 systems were the same.
Let us use the combat triangle.
abstract gate
@native sleet Hello. I was doing the Alliance event and noticed that I am getting +25 points and another +1 point for killing 1x level 22 Elite Separatis. Is this intended?
lapis skiff
@abstract gate yes, intended.
abstract gate
You amazing Nalyn
main helm
Anyone only getting 1 point for lvl 22 separatists not the intended 25?
alpine vigil
@main helm watch the solo event points on the event screen it goes up by the right amount. The pop up is just.. bugged and shows 1
And yea it actually goes up by 26 for a 22. I'm guessing its counting it twice, the elite 22 and then again as a hostile. But the pop up just displays the 1 point for the hostile kill
autumn roost
I dropped a ton of trit and dillithium just trying to hit tier 1 in the solo event yesterday. It's not even close to worth it for a lvl 28 player. I done with this event.
dapper drum
Not a bug, you get the 25 then 1 for killing hostile, so it only shows the 1, would be annoying having it pop up +25 then +1 along with the endless full cargo
brave crater
Event is shit eh NEVL for once I agree with you lot
abstract gate
What happens when I kill level 23 Elite Separatist? Still count 25 points?
@lapis skiff
Anyone
exotic willow
@abstract gate no, it’s rather specific isn’t it?
@twilit imp @gala please thank scopely for increasing the trite rewards, well done.
However what we were really hoping, as a server, was to get the lower levels between lvl 26 and lvl 30 faction ships as a lot don’t have them, it was the mayflower, D3 and legionary BPs we were hoping for.
Also Harrison shards, a lot missed out and there is no way to get them outside of an event.
Can you please send that feedback, Thanks 🐒
abstract gate
Do you know why lvls 25 only get gas and ore uncommons 3* and no crystal??????
We also need some crystal!
@twilit imp
Did u forget the crystal????
viral pawn
Level 23 we only get ore and crystal, no gas 😔
opal narwhal
What level do you need to be to see the D3 in the store?
alpine vigil
26 I believe
dense jetty
@twilit imp Credit where credit due, well done for increasing the Tritanium rewards for the event.
outer herald
@twilit imp I also want to thank you for the increase in trit reward increase. I just feel seeing as you advertise the Mayflower D3 and legendary on Facebook that they would be available in the event. Keep up the good work :-)
abstract gate
Can we get an increase on boss point to make them worth grinding for solo board?
hexed bobcat
I think the opposite needs to happen... just lower the point of the level 22 hostiles. Not a ton, maybe 5-10 points each.
loud solar
@exotic willow Yea thats something I pushed for htis morning (more trit rewards). Panic and I had a long convo about it. I'm also pushing for BPs to be available for faction ships so FTP have an option as well. (Keep in mind, this isn't Panic's call, btw, though obviously he has influence).
halcyon briar
can you push for uncommon crystal? this rare crystal im getting is going to rot in my inventory because i cant use it (ops 28)
loud solar
what do your rewards look like (curious). I get a good bit of UC
Just from the solo event I get 45 UC a day. That's 225 over 5 days (just from that event). Which is pretty good for an event to me at level 26. The UC/Rares aren't what I was having an issue with
i was going broke on tritanium
PVP event is even better, if you can find people to do it with
outer herald
@loud solar good work, that's all we're asking for...
loud solar
Its a team effort. I just make sure i poke the bear quite a bit... lol
We've got a great content creator team trying to be the bridge, so to speak 😃
outer herald
@loud solar do you know why the bps aren't for sale for some people?
loud solar
For level 26+? Is this all on a particular server, or just for some individuals?
outer herald
Well being ops 30 is no option to even purchase even if you wanted to.
loud solar
Actually hadn't run into that or heard about it yet, but I can check with other Lvl 30+s I trade battlelogs with. If I hear something tonight I'll throw it back to you
outer herald
Cheers @loud solar
loud solar
Just heard back from one (level 31) he already has the legionary/mayflower, so he sees the upgrade packs
outer herald
Oh ok then if you don't have it won't show up lol
loud solar
maybe not. the nagain, at level 30 you have access to much better faction ships
There might be a level cutoff, like there is with the jellyfish (level 18, IIRC)
outer herald
Yea probably is sigh
loud solar
legionary is so sexy... makes me regret killing all the rommies haha
outer herald
Yea legionary does look nice. Guess I was hoping to have a chance to work toward faction ships in this event.
loud solar
Well, its still my hope they will have BPs available
alpine vigil
Maybe one day the event with the event store where you could get them will return.. is love to get the legonary even if I have another faction ship by then
abstract gate
Yes even lowering the points for the level 22s would work as well
alpine vigil
I'd love to see the points lowered for this event.. 90 mil just ain't happening
alpine vigil
28
abstract gate
90M is doable on the bosses. Just painful with repairs
loud solar
yea, id recommend the buddy system if you need help amelia
its helped me tremendously
alpine vigil
No no its not. Lol. I tried the bosses
loud solar
my d3 gets me 3M points per hit vs bosses
alpine vigil
Would have to die 45 times with my best ship
abstract gate
We’ve been knocking shields down for our lower power members so their hitting nothing but hull
alpine vigil
I get 2mil with my Kumari
loud solar
exactly Reaver, thats the buddy system (put a video out on it earlier)
alpine vigil
I tried that. I actually got less points for attacking a ship that was already damaged
loud solar
hmm, what setup are you running?
abstract gate
No just shields down. You get points for damage done. Shields don’t count and you need to use all four ships
abstract gate
Yep we can get our lower 26-28 done in about half an hour
loud solar
@alpine vigil burning works, but the procs are a bit messed up. Thats not a bad set up. If you're gettign 2M points more, thats more than I was getting with Kumari using Javaid set up
my only gripe with buddy system is it cost me 4 hours of speed ups to repair d3
So i gothrough about 20hours of speed ups for event
now that the trit payouts are better though, its not too bad in terms of cost
abstract gate
Use the NS to knock shields down
loud solar
i use a friend's ship to knock shields down
i go straight into hull
(NS is only 165k for me)
alpine vigil
My ns just goes splat against the boss
Of course with the Kumari you do get points for dmging shields. Not full but some
loud solar
abstract gate
Ahh ok, I’ve been using my flower to knock shields down for ally’s. For the 90M I just blast em with my brotas and sally
loud solar
me and friend doing buddy system in event last night
alpine vigil
I'll see if I can catch a screenshot of the points on hitting an untouched vs a shield down
loud solar
its worth looking into amelia. my d3 (with shields down) gets 3.1M points usually vs only 1M ish when hsield is up
(battle lasts 11-12 rounds)
alpine vigil
Remember tho. With the kumari vs an explorer boss.. you have fairly high shield pen so I'm still doing dmg to the hull and getting points. I'll see if I'm fast enough to catch a screenie
loud solar
thats a fair point too
alpine vigil
I'll have to lower the shields myself. I don't think my other high lvls in the alliance are on right now
Okay screenshots. With no shields
Untouched (full hull full shields)
It makes zero sense to me that I'm getting more points on a ship that's untouched. Vs one with no shields..
eager pawn
So what are the specific ROEs for the PvP part of Fractured Empire event
alpine vigil
Uhh it has to be done in a certain system (not sure which check the event it lists it) and both you and the other player have to be using a faction ship
eager pawn
Like Fed v Rom ships or other combos?
alpine vigil
Doesn't matter. Just requires both be in a faction ship and int he correct system
alpine yoke
Also Botany Bay counts as a faction ship if you're trading kills and want to do it cheap
halcyon briar
^^ didnt work for us
alpine yoke
Ah, sorry, I heard it from an alliance mate and hadn't tested myself
loud solar
sadly, botany bay, nor faction miners, count
alpine vigil
I wish it did . Might be able to actually do that event.. I have one of those lol
carmine lily
1 player ship killed |0 points, 1 hour repair time.
low heath
So Kirk, Spock and Khan...killer combo against the Bosses 😎
And for the PVP event I traded kills with someone from another alliance. Just took my Weaker Mayflower2, removed the crew and put a Red Shirt (Leslie) on the Bridge making it easier for them to kill. Figured it be fitting for a Red shirt to take on a suicide mission 🤣
abstract gate
Your weaker ship..lol
hardy parcel
@low heath for double the points just put vemet un the chair.
abstract gate
Event still sux i see, thought they would have fixed by now ? Another few days off then
quasi kestrel
Any screenshot of lvl 26 rewards
spare perch
So basically the gist of it is = going after the bosses with Kumari's is pretty pointless
abstract gate
Please get us some uncommon crystal!!!!
@twilit imp Please at level 25 you forgot crystal!!!!!
gusty rose
Nobody gets crystal, seems to be fixed for #payflowersucks it uses crystal and ore. And while it's works ok ing the bosses, it hopeless on the 22s...
hoary sleet
Ok I got the Mayflower but it doesn’t seem to be paying off. Tiered it up a couple times and it’s sitting around 305k. When hitting bosses I only get between 40-80k in points. Using my 312k Kal I get 2.8M. Any ideas
meager galleon
Refund
No offence here but the Mayflower has been known to suck for a long time, it’s due a fix/rebalance sometime soon(tm) and they still sold it anyway. It’s kinda your own fault to pay for faulty virtual goods
hoary sleet
Fair enough, but it’s still a faction ship and should be getting more points when hitting bosses.
hardy parcel
@hoary sleet how much damage is being dealt by the ships? For Mayflower points should be 7x damage on a boss for the other ship 5x
If it isn't that then you need to contact support unfortunately
abstract gate
@twilit imp please put some uncommon crystal for levels 25!!!
white lotus
Could someone please post the event rewards for lvl 24?
hoary sleet
@hardy parcel my Kul is doing 500k hull damage and my Mayflower is doing 250k. I upgraded on component on the MF and the points tripled. Strange. It’s sitting at 309k while underway. My Kul is 305k under way. Can’t figure out the disparity.
low heath
#Payflowersucks is only optimal against the bosses at the higher tiers. At T8 with an epic crew: Kirk, Spock, Khan I can kill a boss in one shot and still have 20 to 40% hull left. Goes 45 to 48 rounds. For max damage, Kirk, Spock, Uhura goes 50 rounds and stalements with both ships surviving.
Lower tier ships use officers that can prolongue the battles for more rounds; the more rounds the more damage inflicted.
abstract gate
@hoary sleet next time do some homework b4 dropping so much cash into something...even a cursory glance at the fed channel would've told you all you need to know about payflower...I've tried to save as many of you from my mistake as I can but I can't reach everyone it seems.
Oh and #payflowersucks
storm cove
Make sure to use vemet if your trading pvp kills with a friend, so far weve got the same ship to explode 3 times before needing repairs
loud solar
@storm cove It's a good tactic!
abstract gate
Question for payflower vs bosses...vella, vemet or nero for craptains chair? @halcyon briar will be running a kumari with enterprise crew and ns with the scraps left over too
Hoping for an officer event to promote Nero too...
gusty rose
@abstract gate none of the above. I use bones, Kirk and Spock. Stack health and def below decks.
abstract gate
Rugged knight and I were discussing it last night and his opinion leans towards burning crew on payflower and enterprise crew on kumari...for hitting fed seperatists boss btw
That's the kumari
@gusty rose good answer but not to the question asked...vella vemet or nero? If you were to run an explorer with pyromaniac crew
gusty rose
Prob be met as cap if he is the one that gives you 5% on hull on ship death.
abstract gate
Yeah he is
12% with synergy
That's around 20k hull back...not too bad for a cheeky second attack and extra points
Plan will be ns to knock off as much shield as possible then kumari to finish shield and dent the hull some with payflower racking up the big points on a deshielded paper aeroplane
halcyon briar
@abstract gate kumak if you have him
halcyon briar
Either, or grace Chen if she isn't occupied somewhere
abstract gate
She's on ns bridge...figured I'd give it a sporting chance of doing something 🤣
halcyon briar
Lol
abstract gate
Ships en route I'll let you know how it goes in 4mins lol👍
halcyon briar
Hehe good luck!
If this doesn't work better just go back to what you had, since too many other factors like relative officer and ship strength to consider
And I got to get to work lol
abstract gate
16mil points...up from 9-10mil vs klingons
halcyon briar
Nice!
abstract gate
Ty vm for the advice you just cut my runs almost in half 😎
feral tapir
Did the daily solo quest give the same uncommon rss everyday no matter the faction? I am still ops 20
north totem
@twilit imp , why is it that for the 3 straight day I'm getting 400 gas instead of 400 of a different material every day? It is what it says in the event. Today if should've been 400 ore.
feral tapir
@north totem that happens to me too
Same materials. I tried to change the highest faction score from klingons to feds. But it doesn't change after daily reset
halcyon briar
Yea only the leaderboard changes daily
feral tapir
I see. Damn! Thanks @halcyon briar
abstract gate
drops mic thank you @halcyon briar
north totem
It makes no sense. It should be 400 of one material each day as it says in the event info.
Looks like we are all having the same problem. Would like to see some feedback from @twilit imp.
placid harness
How does the pvp work for this event
halcyon briar
@north totem it is... For the leaderboard event. The solo grind and solo pvp event give the same rewards each day
@abstract gate thanks for seeking advice and being willing to experiment! So many here just want to complain and have things handed to them
abstract gate
If someone is reporting better results than me I'm all ears lol
@placid harness you have to kill another players faction ship with your faction ship in the designated lvl26 system...see the event info for which system, should be romulan today.
Bb doesn't count neither do lvl30 faction miners
halcyon briar
Should be, but in game it's showing klingon for my server
halcyon briar
Yea, haven't tested yet to see if it's right or wrong lol
hexed schooner
In this event how do you get the RSS daily tokens, that they speak of?
abstract gate
By hitting top milestones in solo event...if you are high enough lvl..
hexed schooner
Ok, thanks, I'm not that high.....
abstract gate
There's trit tokens in top 2 milestones at 28+ dunno about others
hexed schooner
Kk. Ty
lucid plinth
Yep just have to farm mobs for 8-10 hours and you should be good
what is the cost of the cheapest lvl 26 ship pack?
Faction ship pack
halcyon briar
It's $100 but only has half the blueprints required
merry fulcrum
Rip off
halcyon briar
So if you have half from previous events, but if you don't $200
merry fulcrum
$200 just to get it, not to even make it a good ship
lucid plinth
Thanks can someone snag a screenshot
abstract gate
No amount of money will make payflower a good ship
merry fulcrum
#payflowersucks
abstract gate
@abstract gate to ur cap question: i would put vemet cuz of romulan tenacy. Makes 2 fights in 1 repair round possible. For same pts or even morebif shield down
Might try a couple of runs with vemet tomorrow and compare...I'm not close to a kill even with a 12% revive so it'll come down to damage dealt/points earned
abstract gate
@twilit imp what do i need to do to get uncommon crystals as level 25 during event????
worldly rampart
Have finally been able to look at the fraction leaderboard event. With the strength of the weakest separatist elite ship at about 25k, well, that's way too rich for my Level 14 blood. I'll just keep potting away at hostiles, and get what I can get in the usual way.
stoic drift
lol i never will understand this game event awards.....win faction ship blueprints...........if you already have a faction ship...........screw the noobs with out one for the event..in the mean time widen the gap more between the have's and have nots
regal horizon
It also isn’t clear how to get the faction ship BPs from the boss kills. Notification came through my phone but don’t understand how your getting the BPs
stoic drift
by placing on the leaderboard
and not only placing but placing 1st , so its an event for only the top players
regal horizon
Oh nevermind nothing new to see here
dapper drum
Is scopley going to provide counselling for those traumatized by this monster "one of your ships has reached cargo capacity"
native sleet
Hahaha..
halcyon briar
no but by the way one of your one of you of your of your ships your ships has ships has reached has reached has reached cargo reached cargo capacity cargo capacity capacity
lucid plinth
So here’s a sillly question why is the competition bracket level 20-35 ish on our server how are we supposed to even have a slight chance to compete
dapper drum
$$$$$
idle lark
Anyone know the lvl 26 total points need for solo event and what top reward is? Need to decide if much better than lvl 25 and rush build?
abstract gate
@halcyon briar did you find out if the pvp event was displaying the right system?
abstract gate
Ok cool...gonna see if anyone in my coalition is awake...need more ore lol
abstract gate
With a payflower? No such thing lol
halcyon briar
🤣
cosmic sage
@idle lark 18.75m points total
abstract gate
It's bs that milestones for players under lvl28 have dilithium and we at 28+ don't...I'm going back about 150k dili a day getting to 90mil and I have fairly decent ships
halcyon briar
... can i de-level to get that crystal?
abstract gate
The trit we get is awesome no doubt but I'd have been happy with half as much trit if there were 200k+ dili up for grabs too
abstract gate
Heh yeah it's weird theres only rare crystal tbh
cosmic sage
90m points is crazy one of my alliance mates spent hours killing the lvl 22s for points and chests.
halcyon briar
@cosmic sage suggest to him to put a burning crew on his best ship and hit bosses he has triangle advantage to
should be much faster
cosmic sage
I told him to hit bosses but he really wanted the chests
abstract gate
Lvl22's is a 10-12hr grind for us...I just slam my ships into bosses instead ...can be done in 40mins
cosmic sage
I hit bosses for my points but I've only killed two. I can get around 1.75m points with two ships
halcyon briar
yea I went for the leaderboard yesterday... hands went numb chasing those 22s in between boss kills
i cant solo the bosses so i had an alliance mate helping me, used the downtime while either of us were warping lol
abstract gate
I'm sick and just don't have the energy for a ridiculous prolonged grind-fest
native sleet
Hope you feel better @abstract gate I just got over the flu
cosmic sage
The full cargo messages from the lvl 22s drive me crazy. Eventually they stop but when I restart the game I have to sit through five minutes of them.
abstract gate
They need to clear out the commander hostiles in lvl26 systems and add lvl28 elites so the 28+ players have a more efficient grind...
With more players grinding elites there plus bosses it would also make the pvp event more viable too
halcyon briar
I feel this pvp event was more a proof of concept
to show they could limit points to specific systems and specific ships
abstract gate
@native sleet thanks...it's just a cold and the fever broke during the night but I'm wiped out from it lol
halcyon briar
I have a suspicion we will see the faction mining/pvp event that went up for a few hours in the near future... with this awesome new tech
abstract gate
Oh yeah I'd forgotten that event...man the salt in gc 😂