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Either way the PvP needs someone with the ability to do mathematical equations to fix it...
It does
Plus missions and npcs scale too fast post lv 20
Iām 21 being asked to kill 150k power bosses which is absurd
10 level complaint is because we have new players on our server... I can't upgrade anything due to the need for g3, so losing par, tri and dil aint a problem for me...
You canāt refine g3 until lv 20
They will all become lambs at the slaughterhouse...
Ya itās terribly slow
This game is less than a week old
Did they let new people on your beta server ?
Yes... the game has been around since mid 2017... still in BETA now...
My point is it just showed up in. The apple App Store less than a week ago
Those high level target missions have been around for months...
My server is brand new though. When I started Friday, the highest person was lv 5
Support hasnt done anything...
Wow
If we could transfer servers yours would be packed... each server has its own issues because of the devs insane idea to run so many different instances at once... One bjg old mess...
Jb posted this in another chat room yesterday, the higher your level the bigger band of players you can hit, a lvl 32 can hit lvl 22-53 .... according to scopely this keeps the game challenging for all š
Oh mine is packed now. It have like 4000 people lol
Has
Iāve been coding games since 1989, Iād be embarrassed to have my name on this game
Sloppiest coding Iāve ever seen
Very sloppy...
See I was told before last week the was BETA and it was officially released last Friday. Apple does not allow beta software in the App Store
@alpine rivet @onyx bear allowing a lvl 32 player such a range is no challenge to anyone...
It just encourages high level players to raid lower level players and encourages lower level players to uninstall the game...
Where is the challenge?
Lol Apple obviously do allow BETA on their store...
They allowed this
Well itās being listed as a release non beta on the App Store
Itās just a crappy release
Maybe putting in a complaint to apple to remove the BETA game from their store could get some fixes...
Im on android otherwise I would of on release day if I knew of apples BETA stance...
Iām probably going to have Apple reverse by iAPs for this game
@thin vapor I Couldn't figure it out either, i guess it's in the 32 hitting a 53 ... as there aren't any that's a huge challenge, similar to the daily goals challenge where we have to get 26/27 lvl faction ships even though they don't exist .....
I have a mission that says preserve Vulcan and kill the Hostiles in the system. U mm the federation is in vulcan. Iād have to kill my own faction!
I could live with the bugs and sloppy coding quite happily if only the game mechanics made sense .....
@native oyster no there are other hostile in all systems
I mean in Vulcan the only āhostileā ships are federation ships
The mission makes no sense
You kill federation ships. Then the federation rewards you. Itās stupid.
ye you kill your own faction
Vulcan hostiles
You have to wait for a Klingon to clear the traders for you... As most people go Fed, Vulcan is usually full of traders... Not hostiles...
for me its only federation patrol and freighters
The federation does not approve of slavery
Ohhhh yer saying the fed ships need clearing to spawn the other stuff?
Oh so the challenge for a lvl 32 is to search for a higher level player... Well at least there is something that vaguely fits the description.
As Scar said, if someone has already poached all the hostiles you might need to clear the feds or wait
No on on my server can lol. Iām the 2nd highest lvl lol
I may have to do it or wait
ive done it alrdy
Such coding greatness... lol
Well that should be in bug forum not general chat .... oh ...
you can compensate by going to klingon or romulan systems
Good idea
i mean you need to do their missions anyway
if you want to progress with the 4 container quest
Might as well be in general chat... oh wait... lol
Did you all get the in game surveys from the devs today?
Are they still asking about JJ Abrams?
No. How do I like the game. What I donāt like. Asking about bugs etc
Did a survey last month that asked more questions about him than anything else...
Itās a detailed survey asking for feedback on the game, bugs, suggestions, etc
nice bug is the alliance help feature Kappa
Hopefully i get it tonight when i have time to be detailed...
Lol the client server communications are a mess
Lol they won't give that survey to us Scar š š š š
Lol yeah hey...
@hoary marsh Lost Horizons mission ?? That was always broken for us so we had to get support to finish it manually, I'd be surprised if it's been fixed
ye lost horizons
I'd message support and tell them you can't finish, if it's still a known issue they might fix it for you
They haven't fixed Lost Horizons yet... smh
Haha lol
Look at the patch notes. Yeah right.
Better pvp matchmaking
There is no matchmaking
@thin vapor
@alpine rivet
Even their FB page says it was globally launched for Apple and android less than 2 weeks ago
@thin vapor @alpine rivet no way this is 1 yr old
Better matchmaking? The hell?
And the Hubris in those version numbers... this is a BETA... BETAs are v0.99 at best...
Look at their FB wall https://m.facebook.com/notes/star-trek-fleet-command/fleet-command-faqs/260410408006432/
Itās claiming itās brand new
I guess the one thing Scopely excels at is spreading marketing BS...
How have people played it for a year then? Was it in the google store as a beta ?
Pre-reg interest on android i guess... Google play allows BETA games...
I guess they took a beta and just released it b4 it was fixed lol
Look at this trailer lol
https://youtu.be/t4jjg4TIWs0 @thin vapor
The galaxy is at your command - as long as you set yourself up for success with the right ships and officers. You have the freedom to join any alliance, with...
I've been playing since August... And others were already in the late teens early twenties in level...
Wow
My guess is they released it as a quick cash grab and have no intention of fixing it... I'd love to be wrong... But that's the impression I get...
I hope not either
Itās been in the App Store longer than I thought. 2 weeks vs a week, but theyāve been patching it. Last week we only had 3 ranks in an alliance. Now we have a lot more. Of course thatās a silly thing to patch in when the game is so broken.
We used to just have agent, operative, admiral. Now we have agent, operative, preimier, commander, admiral.
Don't you get more ranks through contributing to thr alliance?
no
Nope. It was patched in Saturday
One minute we had 3, restarted the game. It downloaded new assets and boom. More ranks
Pretty sure we had them ages ago... maybe they flicked the on switch...
@native oyster that matchmaking "fix" was when they changed from the old 5 up 5 down for everyone ....
Oooo
Stupid. A lv21 can NOT go to sol and wonāt be able to for a LONG time
Warp 40 needed. Mine is 23
try harder!
Lol. Itās just a bad mission that needs fixing
Hmm, bugs are popping up again. I canāt even enter my home system now
Now I know what the devs have been doing
Never used it
@native oyster Old ship... garbage ship... Not worth paying the real cash they used to ask for it... I have a fully upgraded one... Sits in the shipyard collecting dust...
Yeah not worth using... Repair bill is too high... I'd rather use the Turas...
Hehe i already have a jelly
I have 1 but never used it
No point in having a long range vessel when you are locked out of long range
Kehra travels far enough
It's also the reward for the new dominion event ... another reason not to buy
Jellybeans š
That's the whole bug @floral zephyr It shouldn't happen but it does
@alpine rivet that add is for that dominion event...
@thin vapor that ship is not good for me either, but for those just starting, this is actually a good event to get some Nice stuff.
Despite several restarts I canāt get into the system where my ship is to do the mission. Argh!!!!!
Oh don't worry it... The devs are trying to make the game more challenging... #sarcasm
Even if your ship is already there, click the SET COURSE again. That usually solves it for me.
The falling asleep mid warp bug š its because it takes so long to go one from 1 system to another that the whole crew falls asleep
I tried set course again but even that wasnāt working. In end had to go to a nearby system and then return to where I wanted to be to get in. And the excitement of getting Turas ruined by these graphics!
Oh you went for the 2nd hand option š š š š
<@&509690795536941056> I have found a small annoying bug: If I'm on eg. my Shipyard with the Build Ship button visible, and I click Go on the R&D Department since that needs to be upgraded next, it doesn't replace the Build Ship button with the Research button. Clicking it and then backing out of Ship Construction will make the Research button appear, though.
Why does Premium Recruits sometimes give 10 recruits, and other times only 5? It seems rather random. That is a recent thing for me, roughly within the last week. It used to always give 10 recruits. Anyone else?
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They weren't making enough money in that department. š
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Now that's resolved there "shouldn't be any problems moving forward"
#classicline
Players keep in mind we can send 100 reports but then we must leave them time to fix it and it wonāt happen in a day.
What did you to get an answer in less than 20 hours?
Wtf?
If the same bug has been around for weeks there is not enough progress
And this latest one where sustems become undiscovered, inclusing the one I'm currently mining in or my home system is classic scopely
Make a change and push it to the servee/client. They will let is know if it fixes things or makes things worse
@wispy nimbus these reports have been going in for months. All we get are copy paste answers. They do not care
Left the app, came back and one of my ships that was sat in the station in need of repair is now showing as destroyed. I've sent a report on their in-app help system with screenshots. Other alliance members are reporting the same problem. No battle report or other reason for it.
Yeah, it's a known bug.
People here have said repair time reflects the damage you had previously, not a full repair
That seems to follow, thanks for the heads up
Been happening for months
Also, it'll happen if you leave while your damaged ship is recalling
Speaking of... shit.
Why is my damaged ship destroyed when it's on its was back to base. It leaves a system with a little bit of health but is destroyed by the time it arrives
Gosh, there shoudnt be any problem going forward. Hahaha totaly ignoring the actual problem. Hilarious
I don't really want this fixed, but my miner keeps getting hit and it doesn't go back to base. I have no health at all but I can keep mining. I just can't defend my spot lol
Ahh good old miner hits.l must say i dont miss those days
Im being thrown into a wormhole! š
When in exterior view and panning station 360.
Oh I wish I had that bug... looks cool...
the real bug is the ship repair cost is more than is shown. calculate once the resources before and after doing repair
Yeah, just after discovering that. I'll see one of the devs sunday, words to be had!
they know it for ages.
Mmm, there's politics involved.
trump get there also? what now? no more dilithium but more oil and coal?
Don't even know anymore what I was doing at the time, but feel free to investigate.
Oh, BTW, is this a friend or a foe?
a friend fraternising with the enemy :)
In thĆ© biblical Sense š
@native oyster you we're probably lookong at a system that was marked as discovered but which u hadnt visited before. Ik have that too
Thanks MagicalElf. Good to know jij had that issue also. š š
Ship in the system. Trying to attack an NPC. Get this when I click Attack.
10m chest time expired but cannot claim. Cannot click on the CLAIM button.
@lilac yoke That is a longtime ignored bug by the devs...
Click the "+" next to your latinum and then click the gifts button at the bottom and it could refresh the button in game and you should be able to collect the gift...
The top pic is also an old bug, use clear localization cache in game to fix
@lilac yoke
@native oyster please fix the warp on our server! We are crippled and canāt explore. Canāt do missions. This EXACT configuration has warp 52 on other servers.
Itās absolutely absurd that ship is stuck with warp 25
@native oyster thats nothing new. You arent supposed to be able to open all systems right away (or within weeks). We as betas still have many missions like that. Also Dark space mission, which cuts us all off from the top of the map even though we all have the warp to get there.
Dunno why your warp is so low. Glitch?
@dusk yoke yeah but we are stuck. No way to progress or upgrade
So are we mādear
@dusk yoke our whole server is stuck with low warp
Agree this is crazy. I have enjoyed the game but after lvl 20 I feel like itās totally stalled event tho I have spent a lot of real money on The game. Starting to wonder if we are ALL in a beta and should be asking for $$ back.
@native oyster sorry I know i shouldn't be but ...... š š š š
@dusk yoke that just pissess me off more the devs screwed our server
Thereās people on my server who spent 4000$ and canāt even get to sol and their t3 ships are maxed at t7
Wait, who has the enterprise on your server?
Ha ya we have nothing like that
So, yep, yer screwed, weāre screwed.
They need to fix our server lol
They need to equalise all servers.
No doubt Wednesday's "fix" will nerf all our ships too, if no one can reach tier 62 there's no need to sort dark space mission
Im 31 and cant do 31 missions asked to kill a million and above ships
And a fully upgraded ship wonāt get that much power
My highest ship is a half mil
:drools: at the thought
Why would they nerf a server down like this? Makes no sense
Even 50,000$ wouldnāt get me to lv 31
Stops you complaining about lack of g3 mines if you can't reach any š
Mine is weak though, need 123 million trit to finish the upgrades then what a month of tiering? Hahah fuck that
Can't even finish my Kehra's 4th tier š
Well at least we can all agree, game is borked. They messed us all up big time
We are not alone ....
Haha nope
Yeah they don't care about the players... just the income... prove me wrong Scopely... go on, prove me wrong..,
So how do we complain ? Cause Iāve put some real $$ into this
I am saddened by the tone change from the newbies to now the betas or founders. I really thought they might of gotten the game right for the new people. Guess not
If they donāt fix it, Iāll get Apple to reverse all the money I put into the game
Yeah I did that.
@silk ore there are buttons on the store pages... top right for google..
How can they even read bug reports when they allow us all to talk in here ? Lol
Either spending $150 or more than a week mining to refine 300 uncommon G2 seems like it'll only get much worse past lvl 18.
I think they are screwed no matter which way they go here. Update you guys to our warps, then you will see the trit crunch if they dont fix the mines, fix us and screw us over again from over a year or months of playing, of which theyve already done to us.. either way, people pissed.
@dusk yoke we already have a trit crunch on our server lol
They nerfed asteroid sizes too
@thin vapor Iām on an iPad and donāt see any buttons
Yeah, then if they do throw us all in with you, its gonna be lambs to the slaughter.
@dusk yoke they probably wonāt merge. Our server is overcrowded
@native oyster
I was wondering why allow 100k storage on an envoy then biggest mine it can jump to at that level is 10k, only for it to get blown up after an hour.
Maybe we can have the lvl 30+ systems on their server since they can't reach them .... that way we can all play together
Nah, but our server is dying, they will need to do something or open us up to newbies which seems to be happening now.. and again, lambs to slaughter
@glass frost inhave 159k storage on mine with blue mining officers lol
Seems pointless.
And the largest asteroid Iāve seen is 14k parsteel in a lv 30 system
And I can mine 14k in less than 1 hr
They should be like 100k
Millions, they should be millions, they were, before the merge
Ugh
The cargo holds make no sense
If you want to ask any questions what my server is like, feel free. I'm the highest on it currently
20k per parsteel mine, 73 million steel to upgrade. Hmm
Ive got a 9k tritanium mine, more valuable than g3 š¤
Why did they dumb it all down ?
Come to Subezac Twitch, Im not mining anymore
I can see slowing people. But they went too far
Probably to make people fight over mining
Sitting with my shield on doing nuffin till they fit it
Wait till you all get faction mining on bases. Then youāll scream
Jeeze.
That a player ?
Then they take millions, not thousands.
Faction blueprint player ship.
@native oyster
Loads and oodles of players. I have faction miners but dont hit bases with em
I saw the faction mining ship. It didnāt look that strong
Upgrading mdear
At least on our server it isnāt
They hit really high power levels
One I saw was 350k? I know the 34 players have some serious miners
Mine is 135, but I quit upgrading it
My base has 300k power. Those miners wouldnāt touch it ?
Or do those things get really nasty ?
Then you take an intrepid and wait five minutes, then hit repeatedly when shields and ships are dead
A person will millions can lose everything besides protected in five mins
Fortunately those ships can only hit people 10 levels below them ....
Indeed. Well Im off, Saturday crazy stuff to do. š
@alpine rivet our server has a guy whoās like l29 and he canāt even go to Sol or even Suliban lol. Thatās broken
800 8 hours shields
Lvl 19 with 48 8h shields.
Yeah every non faction ship on my server caps at warp 25 (28 with Scotty).
^+1
Maybe nerving the warp was on accident and it just went down with the rest of the stat nerf
Probably a % to all stats
Yep. Thatās what Iām thinking
Most likely one of the "galaxy" upgrade path things.
But the didnt nerf the npcs so combat is too difficult
I'd be more interested in who wrote the in-game guide.
@glass frost bush jr
Like.. it's more of a "this is what we plan for the game to be like".
Kvort warp speed bugged? Showing 36 at base ?!?!? Valkis is 63
@native oyster G3 rare refining remains broken and is non existent. I have logged a few support cases on this and get the non helpful answers saying rare will happen, it is random.
I have been refining for a month and I have had NO rare ore, crystal, or gas AT ALL!! I can't even buy a pack that will give me the rare for my ship upgrades, isn't that the purpose of having these packs to buy in the first place?
I now have no G3 resources I can refine due to the inability to mine G3 with larger stronger ships sitting on the very few available mines since there are too many players in this galaxy and too few mines, and the warp limit of 40 of the envoy to not reach the other available mines.
@astral gale i have that top. Just today i got 3 rare gas from refining, at it for at least a month
And also no packs that contains it
On IOS I turn off the Music in settings....and any time i switch to another app, or close the program the music is back on.... And I have to go and turn it off again... Bloody annoying bug...
@opal lance try promoting them or another search so they are not bottom of the list (known bug)
Agree with the refining...
The PvP is my main gripe though... No balance... No competition.. No challenge...
My Ship is warping with timer of 45 minutes? How can I fix that? It should have taken 3min.
@hoary marsh Yeah that would be nice... I mean If it was balanced I'd be happy with it's inclusion, as I love PvP games... But as it stands it needs an on off switch...
i am forced to raid if i want to upgrade the base
Yeah the resource speed is porked as well...
I have started just popping stations just because I have to wait for the g3 ore to refine... So resources are just for repairs... Everything else that can be done is done... But it's not fun at all... But hey, gotta do something whilst waiting for a level 30+ to pop me...
And anyone who gets annoyed by it should complain so that PvP is fixed...
Anyone run into a bug repairing their ships? I have the resources, but it says I donāt and wonāt let me repair š
Yeah known bug...tooltip is inaccurate, keep collecting rss from generators eventually you will be able to repair.
It's probably the dilithium that's short..
Yup... ship defaults to destroyed even though it has health... Even if the ship was actually sent back as a damaged ship, it could have health... skewing the numbers...
They prolly gonna change the requires rss to be lower than the show. Requirements instead of fixing it... Like they did with the repair time
No fixing of bugs, just adjusting the bug to lessen complaints
Well figured a way to stop the Winner Acheivement bug loop
When signing out of game. Exit the game by signing completely out. Using the back button on android. When you get message exit game. Click exit game. When you log back in it will have stopped. Seems to happen when you use the O or [ ] Clear All. And then go back into the game at a later time.
This game (in a good way) reminds me of old school games flying around exploring space, doing missions and fighting.
However, for past eight hours on our server none in my alliance have been able to enter systems to continue the story missions. Weāve tried the usual tricks, visit neighbouring systems , continue course etc but still cannot get in.
Till you get this bug sorted, there is no way I can recommend this game to anyone. And the lack of help section acknowledging the problems and timescale to fix, or an idea it might make sense to say sorry for issues Commander have some latinium etc.
Come on guys - love the concept of the game but you got to fix this and communicate with us what is happening and what you are doing about it and how long take to fix!
Never seen that bug
@opal lance join the queue
Me neither.
Hello all, today i made an 2nd official complaint to scopely with beglium consumer organization Test aankoop,
I now asked to get involved with legal advice from an attorney, probably they will ask to have more players involved against a complaint at scopely, because of all the money players invested and not been able to play
as a normal game
if your are interested in joining this complaint , please contact me
through Discord ,with details Real life and the money wasted on this Alpha game
Legally there s not much to do against this. By playing u agree to thƩ TOS. And u waive any rights through that
But i m interested in following this (belgian myself
Unfortunately you are snookered legally (here in uk / Ireland) the money spent purchased packs which contained the items as described. The speed ups worked, the latnium does as intended etc. despite the game being buggy the items purchased worked so I doubt legally youāll get anyway. More likely a settlement - money back and ban you from game š. Lol
Someone on my server had apple refund them 500 bucks. They got banned
112 million parasteel. So about 100 days solid mining for me next
How much parsteel does a level 30 ship give if you were to hunt them?
Not sure on lvl 30s but lvl 38s give 2200 per ship
So 1000 odd kills for 2 mil para lol
I wish theyd ban the guy bragging bout getting refund from google, looks like for now he gets to keep his toys and have his money too, kind of defrauding scopely really
^_^
Ich bin Level 16.
@native oyster you should be able to get that from raidingother bases
@native oyster not really. raiding is very hard at this level as the bases are too strong. most are 1 mil+ strength and best ships we have at this level are 1 mil which cost 12 mil tritanium to repair. max you can raid, if you are lucky and get a faction cargo ship to raid is around 1 mil. so it costs you nearly a full repair on your main ship to get very little return
@native oyster wow thatās broken. canāt even mind that much titanium
yep lol we've been complaining forever. game doesnt work after lv 26 ishas repair costs on faction ships are too high, build costs are too large
@native oyster This wasnt discovered six months ago in beta? Or have they let it go that long?
when scopely took over they changed the mining. previously the mines scaled accordingly to system level. so the big players were out in lvl 50+ systems where we could mine 1 to 2 mil trit a day easily.
repair costs never used to be so high. my faction ship used to be a mil trit at best for a ful repair, now its 12 mil
Sounds like Scopely doesnāt know what the hell theyāre doing
unfortunately they know excatly what they are doing. the game is designed for hte first 20 odd levels, to get players in and spending money. they havent thought about mid to end game.
On my server t3 ships are limited to warp 26. I think they are trying to keep us out of the high-level areas until they can fix the game
I canāt even get to Andoria to finish my missions
thats terribble. max tier kehra has around 80 warp
My kehra is tier 4 80k power , warp 25 WITH Scotty. And I have every single prime research purchased
The non-founder servers are completely preventing people from reaching mid game
Warp 84 at tier 9
The non-found her servers are completely preventing people from reaching mid game
Yeah our stats are completely nerfed as well. I have missions to kill 150 K bosses and no way to kill them
214 million trit for one component upgrade on my faction ship lol
We Can also only refine 1750 grade 3 at a time
that was always the case @native oyster you will soon have missions where you have to kill 1 mil+ npc's and its impossible. Even ont eh founding server we couldnt do them.
Which makes it impossible to tier up our ships
you get more options as you tier up the refinary and ops
Look at the crap stats above
the problem is they got rid of hadley. Hadley gives a nice % bonus to warp speed but so far I know of nobody that has got him since scopley takeover
For my level he's stil relevent.
Relevant* +
They changed the warp in the new servers.
I think they nerfed the warp on our server to keep us out of mid game
Iām on one of the new servers
founders will be nerfed on wednesday - yep lol
A bunch of us are going to start demanding they give the new server is the same stats as the founding servers
To be fair they changed the system req too... before you couldn't access factiona without 20+ warp
more likey they will give us founders the same warp ranges as new servers, than the other way round
No thereās no way they will suddenly cut you off from half your space exploration
Yup. I'm fine with that if it means all those new systems.
The entire founder server would quit the game if they cut your warp in half
but then most of us have tier 9 ships so we will probably still be able to reach everywhere. as they brought in teh Dark Space mission that cut us off from lvl 45+ systems anyways
Warp 69 is the max you need on foudners server, as you cant progress into Dark Space (lvl 45+ systems) until you complete that missions. And nobody has found that mission yet (highest player is lvl 34, we think its tied to lvl 39 and g4 ships)
Yes but what happens if they suddenly cut you down to warp 26⦠You wonāt even be able to get to Andoria or SOL
You wonāt be able to access any system over level 34
Over
This must be a bug, for on my server the station pack is 45kr.
And i cant even buy jelly
from memory you get a larger warp bonus at tier 7 on kehra. think it was 2 or 3 per tier, then jumps to 5 or 6 per tier
From a screenshot I saw the other day, a t4 kehra from your server had warp 56 vs my t4 with 26
thats right price Belreion. around 5 euro per pack for the first ones
hmm, kk. let me see what ships I got to check with
Look at a max tier talla
Whatās your warp on it?
Haha ya. Our warp sucks
8 less yea
The only thing I can think of is they want to slow the new servers down so they can figure out how to deal with mid and end game
Easy fix would be if they raised the astroid sizes and the speed that we mine
They should give us 1 million sized astroid nodes
thats what we had pre scopely. out in lvl 60 systems we had masive roids and extraction rates. could pull in 1 mil parasteel per ship per hour
112 mil for a building doesnt seem so bad then
I wonder why they got rid of it
Did they ever say why? Or did they just remove it
thy never said, but basically because everyone was mining, there was no need for pvp.
But the problem is they went to far⦠Now nobody can afford the buildings
Sounds like they have a basic math and logic problem⦠These do not sound like very experienced developers to me
Single person could sit down and solve all these math problems within a week⦠Itās not that difficult LOL
its a scaling issue. they have linked building costs and repair costs to scale with player / ship level. But they havent done the same for mining
Single person could sit down and solve all these math problems within a week⦠Itās not that difficult LOL
Its been offered. I actually work a few streets over from Digit in Dublin and even offered to go in their office as a player and show them the issues in person. As an ex ISD development player with CCP I figured that was a nice offer, but they didnt even acknowledge the email.
Well itāll be interesting to see what the patch gives you guys on Wednesday⦠It would be nice if they fix the balance problems on the new server as well
fix on wednesday will be to give us the same mining system you have and nerf our ships
i.e. more mines. not bigger or faster ones
Our minds are tiny
same as ours. 20k on parasteel, 9k on trit
In lv 30 systems itās 6k tri, 14k steel
wow they've nerfed it even more for you then
I'm on a new server too, and its 20 / 9 there
Thatās absurd because my best mining ship does 6000 trit/hr. So I have to login constantly to move it
what ship / crew?
Envoy and I have all the mining officers including the blue ones
tier?
Max 7
same as us then. 6055/hr I get
But even 20k steel Isnāt enough when you have buildings that cost 112 million LOL
max envoy has warp 40, you should be able to use that to get out to andoria
No not on our server it does not
Max envoy is 23
On my server
Yep we canāt get that much and warp speed as limited to 2
Takes 10 to 15 minutes to fly everywhere
Just pray they donāt give you are warp
Then your envoy will be stuck at warp 23
See and the problem is they nerfed our distance⦠But they never changed the missions⦠So we got all these missions to places we canāt go
Itās like the idiots change something and they donāt realize it breaks something else
lol I dont use my envoy that much, as I have the 3 x faction miners at high elvel which are almost as good and have massive warp
and amssive cargo
The faction miners on our server have a warp 40 limit lol
actually thats a lie, they nerfed the Kvort - it has a 36 base warp whereas the other two miners has 63 base
On yours?
yes
All base 30
36 / 63 here
A lot of people are going to demand your warp on the new servers
Not sure if they will listen
thy wont, they will nerf us down. as we all have tier 9 ships we'll still be able to reach warp 60 systems. jsut nothing else
whats base warp on gladuis for you?
see ours is only 36 so its not a massive drop
Ya but the increase per tier is nerfed on all our ships
would need to check tier up's. I mean at tier 7 my gladius is around 90 warp I think
Brb
actually we can see tier difference. Envoy base on my server is warp 18, and max tier 7 is 40. Compare that to your envoy when back š
the fact they removed Hadely from all the lock boxes thou would tend to agree they are trying to limit warp range. Hadley is still shown on characters screen but there's no way to get him (that +15%, and higher on promotion used to boost your range a lot š
My envoys are maxed, warp 40
TallBearToday at 1:11 PM
No not on our server it does not
Max envoy is 23
On my server
@native oyster are you on a new server or a founder server?
Anterous, its 45 kr on my server
Founder
my server? lol SAUS, HoM etc?
I m on thƩ server that opened in augustus this year when game opened tot rest of europe
There are 4 "founder servers at least. 2 eu 1 nz 1 us (maybe two us)
@native oyster how can u know ehat max-warplvl any envoy on your server is? Are you thr only player? Do you own the other few 100's accounts on your server?
? you think that other players have different stats on their ships across the same server at max tier? I guess its possible but highly unlikely. The system is setup that the ships have a base warp speed which is then increased at each tier of the ship, up to the maximum tier for the ship. The Envoy max's at tier 7 (which mine is at). I would expect everyone else on the same server to have the same maximum warp on their Envoy's. But technically you are correct, its an educated assumption not a proven fact. I can get the other top players here to check if that would help.
@native oyster ah okay, different server to us then although I think we opened around that same time, but most of the players here were on the first beta server from 2017.
@native oyster i dont know how to see what server in on.
45 kr is 5 euro ish right?
@native oyster 45 kr is 6,03 euros. 40 kr is 5,36 euros
ah okay. first packs for us are 5.49 euro so similar
Close, think it depends on taxes also. But in the same currency in danish kroner my brother pays 40kr while i pay 45 kr. Its hardly fair.
@native oyster i can tell you Anterous definately does not own 100s of accounts. On our server he only has 1.
lol dont think I've claimed to own 100s, or even 2 on the same server š
I never heard it š or even seen it for that matter. So you goos in my book. Thanks for the info youve been posting ma dude.
no worries. shout if you need anything
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This game is turning into Lost in Space (at least my navigators canāt figure out where the heck theyāve been in the last 30 minutes...) The bugs and glitches are getting so bad that itās almost unplayable at this point. Release? Not even close. Beta? This resembles an Alpha state, at best.
Alpha with live servers.
@alpine verge
I will post this here as I will kindly assume it is a bug (everybody is entitled to his own opinion).
I had a mission I couldn't finish because I had to go to a system warp 40 and the best I could get (with Scotty) was 39. So I worked hard (2 weeks) to gather all the resources and finally built a ship that got me warp 40. So I immediately checked the mission again... and now it says the system is warp 48!
FYI, I'm on the BEB/BAD/WIKI server.
Numbers aren't the developers strongest trait, although normally it's the 1's and 0's they have trouble with
@everyone.
You really have to question just how much experience the people designing and coding this game have. Is it a tutorial project in Game Design 101 in some college course?
@proud barn basic maths was obviously on in the morning... š¤
@alpine rivet Strongest trait? Remedial third grade arithmetic doesnāt seem to be one of their stronger suits, either. Iāve never seen more math or number related errors in any other online game. Although with the number of glaring issues and bugs in this game, this probably shouldnāt surprise anyone.
I love how the mine I'm on changes from one commodity to another 2 hours into mining it. What a waste of time
Still waiting to see if these devs have ANY strong suits.
Devs please - when I want to do a research or build, my fat fingers missclicked three times already and lost about 450 gold because it clicked "Instant build" - please make a "Are you sure" button because I did not want to Instant build!!!
@native oyster We should be able to use each dock seperately to repair ships...
The docks also should be on a seperate control panel to ships, say the shipyard, so that you can have 10 ships out in space, and 6 ships at the docks repairing or tiering up...
And when one of those 10 ships gets destroyed or returns home it goes to the shipyard... Allowing the officers to be moved to other ships... And gives the docks a better meaning...
This would also give the founders a use for Realtas and Jellys...
@thin vapor No ... we should be able to repair ships in the hangar, docks should always be available for ships in and out ...
@alpine rivet basically what I mean... Just different wording...
Yes but ... i don't want scopely to have an excuse that I can't repair a ship and build 1 at the same time. The hangar is a useless building currently, basically just a museum of ancient ships to remind you how much resources you wasted......
does anyone else have the problem that they can't switch to the system view (iOS) -- it works sometimes after a restart, but not always... I was just shot off a mine and NEED MY REVENGE!!!!!!!!
@alpine rivet asked about this in the q&a... seems like it's pretty hard to do that.
@alpine rivet that is exactly where I was going with it...
I don't know why... but implementation issues or something. Point is not gonna happen at least not anytime soon.
I keep getting notified that I've reached a milestone for the dominion leaderboard event.
No new rewards that I can tell, just a repeated notification
thanks for the heads up, known issue with spammy milestone trigger
No problem. Thanks @onyx bear
@onyx bear Do you know if it's a bug that I'm not seeing a store item to buy to speed up Prime Hulls?
depending on actual resource needed, might not be an option to fast track it and requires mining
@strong pumice latinum buys time, buy latinum packs to speed up builds
Latinum packs are a joke, u can get more in packs with other stuff
Thanks @onyx bear .
the packs in general are jokes, like the 5,49 are gone the moment you buy them
@alpine rivet, It needs 3* uncommon refined ore, and doesn't give me the option to pay with latinum. Just links to the store, where there are Boost packs for ship shields and research speed, which have the gas and crystals for other research, but not one with ore.
Ah, yeah, as i understand it you have to spend lots of money on the packs you don't need to get to the dollar value packs with items you need, but better to check with a scopely rep @onyx bear @strong pumice
Some packs donāt show up until later levels even though the research is available earlier. Why donāt ask me but thatās just the way it is. This is especially noticeable in the level 20-23 range with the later prime researches...
@native oyster Will the Founder server update address the explored system status glitch thatās been plaguing everyone for the last week?
@alpine verge don't think it will affect your post launch beta server at all ... as we understand it the coming update is for founding server only
@alpine rivet Iām on one of the Founder servers.
Not if you have the system status glitch
1 founder server, everyone else is now beta to help improve our game, thanks š
Youāre confusing me. We have the Release servers with the new map/planets/resources and the Founder (aka: Beta) servers with the exploration glitch. Iām not aware of a third type.
There are many servers as i understand, founder servers are minimum 6 months old. These were rolled into 1 a month or so prior to "launch" date .... many beta servers were added after between then and official launch date (seriously no one cares about them, purely experimental), then you have servers post launch ....
So which group are you in ? @alpine verge
False: Beta servers were not bundled together a month ago. They remained isolated! At least three waiters to my knowledge: before August / September until Nov. 01 / Nov 02 until Nov. 29
@alpine rivet Iāve only been playing for around a month, so I assume one of the Beta servers then (we have the galaxy exploration glitch). So if Iām on a beta server, does that mean weāre not getting the update tomorrow?
The beta server before 01 November have all had the same update between 01-02 November
Server was around for more than a month @alpine verge
@terse haven Quite possibly, but I donāt think itās been around since August?
Yeah it might have, when I installed the game it was showing as a month or two old I think. We are the Canadian server which was the first server I believe
Short History of the Game: Stlg1:
- The game was born in 2017 with a company other than Scopely. After a few months they abandon the project and it is abandoned for 5/6 months before Scopely takes over the project (teams of sound games based in Los Angeles and Dublin).
- Launch of the game on Android on March 19, 2018, but they do not discover in pub through a few countries that are restricted to Australia, Romania and Ireland. On March 21st, the bar of 5000 downloads is reached.
- July 09, 2018, they improve their versions, which makes them exceed the July 18 the bar of the 10000 downloads.
- August 28, 2018: A new version of the improved game is available. In the wake of September and October 2018 they focus pubs in new countries such as Norway or Belgium. This will allow the first francophones to discover the game.
- 01/02 November 2018: New version and server migration! The old ones stay on a dedicated server and the new players have a new server.
- November 29, 2018: Official release of the Game / World Launch!
@alpine verge my understanding is you won't get anything Wednesday, it's founder server getting new map (and hopefully extra) on Wednesday
If our map is considered okay the game is already dead...
So which is the Founder server if there was a server migration at the beginning of November?
@onyx bear jb can you enlighten the proletariat ?
@alpine verge you'd of been playing pre November
sorry folks as you know, I've came onboard a bit late, just a few days prior WWLaunch, so I lack the previous history
enjoyed that recap though
@onyx bear Still doesnāt answer the question if Canadian players are seeing a server update tomorrow to the new map as well as fixing this exploration glitch.
servers aren't concretely sharded per actual countries, afaik, so cannot answer this one either I'm afraid
It would be helpful to know:
- What server we are on.
- What version or build of the game weāre running.
- What if anything is being sone to fix the issues weāve been experiencing.
may want to rephrase what exploration glitch is though?
@onyx bear I reconstituted myself this history from research and including information given by @native oyster I think. I just miss maybe some Beta Country Testers.
@alpine verge I'm thinking it's no š
In Galaxy mode, systems randomly turn blue or white - so you lose your exploration progress. Quitting the game sometimes reverts it back to the correct progress. Other times you have to clear localization.
oh gotcha, was unaware of the issue. ty
Yeah that's a beta server issue, not something our/your founders have
@onyx bear We just get lip service filing support tickets. The canned response is āthe devs are working on itā.
@dark pollen I was in beta 2017, which was Ireland and Romania only (apart from one dude in Singapore who we just can't shake off)
I wish i had known.
There almost as tenacious as Aussies
I'm romanian.... i would have joined.
Australians were added to the powderkeg in spring of this year when 'beta 2' started
When is @native oyster arriving so we can b*tch at someone directly?
Thank you I will be able to improve my version of the history š
And god knows if you add Aussies all the shit is headed straight for the fan
@alpine verge that is a fair question. I have been too silent here. Won't say I am at 100% speed here - but have at me.
Same for you @native oyster
the first lot weren't too bad @alpine rivet , but you s2 lads take the biscuit lol
@native oyster Can you please tell us what server weāre all on, who is getting this new update and what if anything is being to address the most egregious in-game glitches? Because if thereās no light at the end of this tunnel we should probably quit at this point.
Answer the question then we'll have at you @native oyster
@native oyster biscuit moulds were broken when we were baked
This one @alpine rivet ?
It would be helpful to know:
- What server we are on.
- What version or build of the game weāre running.
- What if anything is being sone to fix the issue weāve been experiencing.
Yes. Itās very confusing when we see āupdateā and not have a clue if it applies to us or not.
@native oyster basically it boils down to how many items have to ticked off your list?
@native oyster i didn't ask what the question was, i asked you provide an answer
Ha! Well that list is open in front of me and I am going to say not enough. @native oyster
I think we all want to know what is going on. My game is so broken right now it is almost impossible to play.
No, i got that @alpine rivet but I did want to answer the wrong question.
@native oyster 1. what is going to be done to fix the massive galaxy map issue experienced by many players now? There is no response from support and no information. Just lost systems
@native oyster 2. What is the plan to address the obvious and glaring PAY TO PLAY broken balance in the game? Will we actually be able to play and upgrade buildings/research/ships more than one per year?
@native oyster at this point if you answer any question I'll be impressed š
I think what we want to know as a starter is a) who gets Wednesday update b) what does it include
@alpine rivet Im going to get you what I can now - not going any where until I have something. Just may need to be poking other people.
@native oyster Will there be a new PvP system?
Not the dynamic garbage one where 32s can hit 22s...
@native oyster understood, really didn't expect you to have any information about an update an entire day before it was due, so please take your time
@native oyster the main issues affecting all servers and players is the imbalance in the game that runs through mining rates, repair costs and the unfair PvP set up. New systems and mines as promised in the imminent update to the founders server is a step in the right direction but will not address these issues whatsoever. Realistically how far are we from having these issues addressed?
@native oyster. Um, still waiting on the server/game version question. How many different game builds are live, how can we tell which one our particular server is running and will this update tomorrow (or whenever it goes live) give us the same features as the players who have the newest version? This is a fairly straightforward question.
Can we all relax, chill, etc. and allow @native oyster to answer questions already on notice .... then we can tear him a new one (colloquialism he may not understand, so do it gently)
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@native oyster. The second question (which Ifrit alluded to), is what is being done to address the Galaxy/system exploration status issue that has been plaguing us (no idea what other server shards this may be affecting as well). Thank-you.
In my opinion, but I could be wrong: there are two different versions of servers currently:
- Several Beta Testers servers that have remained isolated and all of which are on the same version after November 2nd, 2018 (from March 2018 to November 28th, 2018)
- Several "new" servers (after November 29, 2018)
Okay, I am going to take the ones I can, and get to the ones that I want conformation on. But try and get to all of them.
Happy to "conform" to those š
And thanks @alpine rivet appreciate the call for calm. I get the colloquialism - and know I deserve it. Been too quite.
The update of tomorrow would therefore concern several Beta servers (those from March 2018 to November 28, 2018)
@native oyster you been following the Oz slang lessons we doing for JB š¤
Soo... first the upgrade costs, things will continue to be improved - but there won't be some sweeping change as we had for the migration. The older servers accelerated progression, and yes, when the change happened I think we all felt like the breaks had been hit. But the team are going to constantly look at feedback and use this along with where they are seeing bottle necks to refine and improve this to make progression smoother. I am currently stuck unable to get enough G2 Ore... so I know it can be slow going.
Similarly, the PVP is going to be refined in a similar fashion - it is punishing right now.
@alpine rivet Can you just let Q2 answer the outstanding questions without interjecting a new comment or subject every 30 seconds? Youāre the sole reason behind a lot of misinformation and confusion that some of us have been trying to get clarification on. For some of us the game is unplayable right now, so this is about as critical as it gets (short of outright quitting). Thanks.
When the server moves over - players included will see additional nodes, ship repair speed will increase, and there will be a lower cost to promote officers. On top of that there will be more missions in systems.
Unfortunately though, there is currently no way to see your current server.
@native oyster when will you address this...this is a massive issue
@native oyster Is @dark pollen correct in that there are only two server versions right now? Letās call them āreleaseā and āpre-releaseā.
My home system is unexplored. This massive galaxy wide issue has been around for a few days now
@native oyster repair speeds increased but what about repair costs ?
@alpine verge Yes, @dark pollen has that right.
@everyone can we let q2 answer about the bug affecting the galaxy right now
@alpine verge try and follow the thread
@native oyster Will there be ANY change to the current pvp mess in the update?
Even simply returning to the old 5+/- would make a lot of people happy enough to slog through the remaining bugs...
@native oyster Ok, so regardless of what specific server shard we are on - we are slated for the āFounderā update posted in the official announcements, tentatively scheduled for tomorrow?
The team is looking to address the inability to see your server and game version - but it won't be until next year.
@native oyster what about the glitch with the galaxy map. It breaks the game. I cannot play like this. Can you answer please
@alpine verge If you have been playing since before the migration yes.
@terse haven the issue where systems appear as unexplored?
@native oyster yes, my map is permanently glitched now
@native oyster Iāve been playing since the beginning of November. I believe our server shard pre-dates that, but since you indicate there are only two server versions I would assume so. We do not have the new map or any of the new features since the official release. Does that help clarify? It would be easier to simply tell you what server weāre on, but I digress...
@native oyster can you confirm the coming update is for pre merger servers only, or for all ?
If it's for pre merger servers can everyone not included please back off
It is pre-merger server. After that people should have been on the new galaxy.
@alpine rivet if your galaxy map looked like mine you would want answers too. So, no I wonāt back off until I know when the game breaking bug is fixed. This isnāt even about balance which needs addressing, this is about actually playability of the game in its current state
@terse haven I am checking that now, I know its a known issue and actively being worked on, will see if i can find out more.
@native oyster I donāt know what the ānew galaxyā is. Only that if I download the game on a new device I get a ton of systems and features my version doesnāt have. Does that help?
@alpine verge that would mean that we likely are part of the upgrade group.
@thin vapor There will be no PVP update with the change this week.
@terse haven understand your frustration, but it's clearly not being actioned in this update ... we've been waiting far longer for an update so please let us understand what is coming, then you can rant and rave all you want
@alpine verge i suspect you're founder server, very few additions since September
@native oyster highly disappointed... There has been weeks of feedback regarding the need for a fix...
So should we uninstall and wait for the patch in 2019 for a fix to the PvP to make the game worth any time put into it?
@native oyster Just to confirm then, the plan (after the tentative Founder upgrade tomorrow) is that there will only be one server version going forward. Thatās all I basically wanted to know.
It isn't in this update @terse haven - it is top of the teams list and actively being worked on. However, it seems to be an issue that they anticipate taking a few weeks to fix.
@native oyster no pvp update, please see JBs vote, this should be top priority as it's why many are quitting game
@native oyster will there be a work around released then on this issue or are we expected to simply make the best of a bad situation ?
@native oyster Oh, can you quell or confirm the rumour that weāre all getting a latinum credit for all the hassles along with the upgrade?
Ship repair costs... cost is based on time... so they will drop too. š
And yes, there will only be one server type after this update.
@native oyster @alpine rivet I am done wasting my time...
Weeks of feedback ignored...
@native oyster can we get a point by point (however brief) list of what will be in the update, please get it added to "official announcement" list asap
@terse haven a restart can sometimes solve the issue - but we know it isn't a long term work around.
@thin vapor š¢ understand
@native oyster I tried all work arounds known to the community. Nothing is working. All systems are stuck as is now. They are no longer fluctuating but they are still wrong.
@alpine rivet sorry, @ yes. will do
@alpine rivet I actually like the dynamic PvP range as opposed to the fixed +/-5.
@native oyster Thank-you. If itās easier to update in the Founder announcement thatās cool.
@alpine verge I don't have that information here. I'll see if I can find out.
@terse haven standard support response, uninstall, turn off phone for 3 min, spin around 7 times, restart phone, install app, oh same issue ? Maybe it's our end ....
@alpine rivet yup that is where I am at...done all of those things 3 times just for good measure lol
@alpine verge yes but if you're not on founder's server with lvl 30+ you don't understand it
@Q2 funny im lvl 20 but
I am on the pre-release server with Lvl30s present.
@alpine rivet agreed we are amongst the higher or in the same alliance as the power players. We have a level 30
@sudden laurel I have seen that...a game restart solved it
@terse haven game really bursting at the seams
@alpine verge @terse haven send me a pm, I ll send you my latest attack, then tell me it's ok
@sudden laurel apparently if you fully relaunch the game that should solve that issue. Although I hear jumping up and down while you do it helps...
(if it doesn't let me know)
@Q2 can we get a point by point (however brief) list of what will be in the update, please get it added to "official announcement" list asap
@native oyster is the Repair Cost saying N but really being N*1.15 about to be fixed yeah?
@alpine rivet no need to convince me of the PvP issue. I can extrapolate based on my experience that it will become a growing problem as people level up
Quick yes or no let's me sleep š
Ill be putting it up in a moment (okay about 10 mins) @alpine rivet I listed everything previously - so it will just be that repeated.
@native oyster. Is anything being done about the G3 uncommon refine rate? Itās next to impossible (even with Refinery 23) to get anything but common. And with only 2x attempts daily, it will take months to accumulate enough for Operations 25. I understand this improves @ Refinery 26, but if you canāt get to Operations 26 (let alone Operations 25), well...
@alpine verge let alone upgrade ship modules...
@native oyster : Another important question for all players. The passage from one server to another for the players who wants it is it planned for the beginning of next year?
@native oyster i did summersaults on a precipe while squinting during the reboot, it worked
@sudden laurel Glad I could help - hope you stuck the landing.
@native oyster following what you said : « The team is looking to address the inability to see your server and game version - but it won't be until next year.Ā Ā» could you please tell me how they will make an update if they donāt see our servers and donāt know in which version we are ?????
on our side we do know, it's just not appearing in the game UI as for now
Yes, thank you for clarifying @onyx bear
just wanted to pitch in and give additional context as per why some stuff is pushed early next year. As you may be aware, there is soon to be a 'cut off' from any app submission from the various stores, for the holidays. That is why there won't likely be a new client until then
Ok, itās clearer like that, thanks
@native oyster are we to live with the galaxy map issue for 3 weeks+ then until you can find a fix?
@dark pollen Don't have any news on that. I know its a huge feature for a lot of people who want to play with clans and friends. Stay loud about it, and I'll keep asking.
@native oyster: Confirm/deny: After the upgrade warp range and ship strength may change? (ships on the release server seem to have less warp range and overall strength)
@native oyster Thanks at least for that honest answer. Try to push the developers with this priority aspect of the game from my point of view.
@terse haven this being a server side fix only, doesn't need a new client - and should roll imminently as announced / Q2 will pass on further details on when that does happen
@onyx bear thanks for the clarification and confirmation on it being a server side bug not client as I suspected.
@native oyster are you aware of the current poll regarding pvp and if so is it likely to change current position on pvp ?
it's a very fresh and rogue initative on my part, to get some soprt of pulse on it
the end goal is to advocate further to devs about going back the old way, or finding a new one. just to add more wight to the claim. bear with me
@native oyster Anything on ship strength and warp range changing in the update?
Nope just update the founder server announcement as requested.
So with tomorrowās update to founders server - can we check off a few things. 1. Are mining rates (not additional mines but the actual extraction rate) going to increase. 2. Are ship repair costs / component costs / tier up costs and times going to reduce? 3. Is Dark space mission connect to Ops lvl 39? 4. Are ships getting warp nerf to match those on the new servers? Thanks. @native oyster @onyx bear
For me @native oyster :
They were very clear on the issue saying that there would be after this update: only one version of the server! ! knowing that the new servers have what you quote here. The answer should be yes for everything š
@alpine rivet Yup, I know about it, and am keeping a close eye. Personally, I think the theory of the dynamic formal is better, it is just a bit to wide at the moment - especially at lower levels.
@native oyster anything on my questions?
@alpine verge Not as far as I am aware.
@native oyster Double checking. All I have mentioned all I have been given - but trying to get that confirmed.
@native oyster a 300k ship zeros a 350k station because its 10 lvls higher ? You think this makes sense ?
A mining vessel btw, not a war ship, and it carries away 1.5m rss
@native oyster In order...
- No, but as you say, more mines.
- Repair costs will be lower as will the time. Other two, no.
- No
- No 100% on that one, Ill have to check else where - may not find out today.
@alpine rivet Not unless its that mining vessels from the first JJ film. But I see your point, and add it to the PVP concerns.
@native oyster thank you for the answers, I donāt like them but thank you lol
Glad I can at least offer answers.
In context I could bash my my best mining ship out against the lowest opponents i can hit all day and still get nowhere
Adding more mines is a complete waste and will whatās left of pvp as no one will have to fight for them. Whatās needed is faster and bigger mines so throes that chose will mine, and those that pvp the miners will get a good return. Canāt have one without the other
I can see that @alpine rivet and why it can frustrate.
But if you can post in official announcements some clues on what will/won't be addressed that will be appreciated
I am going to hop out to another channel here - follow if you like, but we will try and keep it to the channel topic. I only have another 45 mins and I want to see how many more new holes I will end up with.
As to tier up costs - 700 million teitanium is needed for my level 7 gladius to make level 8. That is never going to happen even with more mines. Itās over 4 years of solid mining with 4 ships!
(General discussion by the way, just need to catch up with what went before)
@native oysterfyi
I get this in game from another scopely game
Why can't we get similar
Full patch notes and visibility on all of this are very high on my list once I am at full speed @alpine rivet - I am thankful to all of you for being so patient, I know how frustrating it was for you to have me drop in day one when you all had so many questions. Please continue to ask and keep it front of mind. I'll continue to try and earn everyone's trust.
I donāt think trust is the issue. The main problem is the devs arenāt listening to those that actually play the game! The entire game st the moment is developed for lvl 0 - 20 play, no thought has been given to lvl 20 - 30 not 30+. We have the knowledge but itās not being addressed
Even a response from the devs as to why they are discounting our knowledge would be good. Perhaps itās something we hadnāt thought of and would make sense if only we knew!
I give a clear example. Lvl 33 Ops needs 112million parasteel. Thatās 311 days solid mining. Previously mines had a higher extraction rate and 112 million would have taken a week tops. Why was it changed? And how are wexpected to gain such huge sums on this little 20k mines that take hours to complete????
If devs could answer a simple well phrased question like that, it would go someway to addressing the community
@native oyster @onyx bear
@native oyster the frustration of your first day is nothing compared to the frustration of nothing for the last week. Perhaps a set calendar notification of when someone will be online ? Ie Monday, Jb 2-4 pm Tuesday q2 9-11am .... you get the idea. And if everything could be set to gmt time as a global game then we could all understand š @native oyster
right, i'll take a shot at it. note this is not dev approved and my personal interpretation of it at this very moment.
so Q2 mentioned how pre migration was a fast tracked balance etc... not gonn come back on that
he also hinted that we'll always bee looking at smoothing out the curve
at this very moment, as the game has just barely launched globally, additional content being developed etc. there's a need to 'pace' the progression
but as time goes, this is typically the sort of things that will be ironed out and eased on
so no, we do not ask you for 33 years of mining here, just some more patience as we go on aggregating game data and make required amends.
hope that helps grasp some context on it all
aren't you getting more from dailies? I'm in the new servers so can't tell much but mining is clearly not a solution to gain resources like parsteel for me
aren't folks swimming in Parsteel though? I just have way to much of it at any given time
@onyx bear i kind of understand where you coming from, but as players we would prefer to see some of these ongoing issues dealt with rather than new content added
Thank you @onyx bear I understand balancing issues (I develop myself lol). However this appears more a structural scaling issue. Clearly you have concentrated on early game for the global launch (I have no issue with that btw) but by ignoring the founders you are losing experienced players who give feedback to help develop for the new servers.
The founder server gives a clear opportunity for testing
i can relate to that and very much advocating to take steps on this asap.
Weāve all accepted we are beta testers lol so you might as well use as such
@onyx bear lol, swimming in parsteel ? Cannot get enough, only way to get it is to raid lower lvl peeps. We assume that is why you have extra ?
nope not even
@onyx bear I need 112million for ops 33, whereās your base? Lol
@onyx bear honestly i think if you could move to founder server we could teach you how to play š š š
I so need 650 mil trit for my gladius upgrades - you got that spare too? Lol
Since weāre at it missions need addressing. Weāve had so many auto completed by support due to bugs that itās almost silly! The npcs need complete rebalancing. Getting a 1.3 mil boss kill at lvl 17 is impossible (damn hard even at lvl 33 tbh!).
yeah i can also relate and will poke the team about this aspect of the game
I still dont beleive you about Dark Space mission thou lol all missions seem to pointing towards lvl 39/40 as the access point. I'm on Preputal Motion mission now which text is pushing me to the progentor race and finding them
Sadly the same missions we were getting support to resolve 2 months ago are still affecting new players... it's like no one gives a s***
I refuse to believe that any player under lvl 39/40 can access Dark Space @onyx bear you going to stick with that line? lol
What level are you @onyx bear ? Parsteel definitely becomes more of a crunch around mid 20's
Fifteen i hear
im 18
didnt have an issue with parsteel ecept very first 2 sessions
but i'll keep an eye for it to fade away as I progress through ty
lol keeping quiet on that one then. rgr
Yeah at 19 i had 20mil parsteel at 23 I'm saving up for each building lol
Once you reach stage of every building costimg 1-3 million, good luck
@onyx bear How you planning on getting faction ships? There's only 280k faction rep rewards available from missions (not that you can complete them all due to imbalance of boss) and you need 500k for first faction ship.......
Aye ops 24 is 3.4mil i have 2mil...will likely have to make the difference in latinum...if i ever get the uncommon g3 ore needed
Its difficult but not impossible dydpeptic.l usually wait til double events to level crew, finish buildings and researches... u can work this system, just takes patience, and a lil refine luck
Is it just me ? I just reallly want JB to join our server with his lvl 18 station fully stocked with resources, I'm salivating at the idea
.... hey you thought zombies were bad, try surviving a day in our server @onyx bear
Haha introduce him to tulip
@shell basin forget tulip, hes fresh meat for our lvl
I'm 6 away after a few saved up ship xp and officer promotions...station events are out i only have generators lect to upgrade lol
Dibbs
How come suliban cabal ships are piloted by naussicans ? @native oyster @onyx bear
@alpine rivet Try using actual ships (and not just your station) to defend. Also, shield bubbles are an excellent deterrent...
Peace shields should be up as much as possible if you are vulnerable. Ships don't do much in protecting from base drains.
@native oyster Why is the Klingon D7/Kātāinga battlecruiser called the Bortas in STFC?
You may notice a passing resemblance...
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/K't'inga_class
@alpine verge it might make an appearance when you get past lv39....
@native oyster Except there is no Bortas class ship of any kind...
Whereād you get that image?
From the previous build of the game it's a g4 ship
Any more G4 ships? I heard about the USS Kelvin.
Kelvin is/was there
Any G4 Romulan ships?
Yeah it's the same as g3, each faction will have an uncommon, rare and epic. I think the valdore is the epic rom g4
@alpine verge Well, it means revenge in Klingon, right? I know the Bortas appeared in TNG episodes , but there it was a Vor'cha class. So, I guess as this is 100 years or so before, they had another in service? Klingons must love Revenge as a name, and there have been a stack of Enterprises.
Not sure it qualifies as a bug though...
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Unlike Gagh. Which should still be warm and alive.
The episode with Riker doing the officer exchange on the Klingon ship was a good one.
@native oyster
I have seven systems that I have previously visited that are now blue undiscovered systems. One is Fastoff. There is no bounds to which this app will descend in terms of becoming unplayable.
@native oyster Itās a bug if there isnāt a Kātāinga class ship in the game because even in the Kelvin universe you would still have had the D7 (Star Trek original series) or Kātāinga (Star Trek movies). Then again, itās your game so you can name it whatever CBS approves with your licensing agreement... I previously pointed out the error with the Enterprise (that itās a Constitution and not Mayflower class, among other discrepancies in the description). I was merely trying to point out that itās a fairly iconic (and common) ship in the Star Trek universe.
The āBortasā (D7) should actually be the top tier ship in the Klingon tree as itās quite a bit larger than the D4 (thereās that āDā class designation again), but I know that screws up your rock-paper-scissors implementation of having the Federation with an Explorer, Romulans with a battleship and Klingons with an interceptor.
Then again, if there is a 4* Kātāinga class lurking about all is forgiven.
@alpine verge wouldnt original ST be happening at a later time? Adult kirk, where as kelvin is reboot "young" kirk
Also to point out on ships, in original gene ST lore, fed never built any battleships, rom ships generally larger ships, with more firepower, klingon smaller ships, nimbler to better outmanouvre enemies
@alpine verge There is Uncommon 4* K'T'Inga ship exist on old beta server. But it did not come with it when we all move to Scopely server. It might will add later in future.
@sudden laurel Hereās an image from a deleted scene with the Narada where it was surrounded by Klingon D7 warships after being crippled by the USS Kelvin. So yes, the D7 was present in the Kelvin timeline.
@alpine vergeyes kelvin, which is spinoff, alternate reality. But kelvin still reboot with young kirk, so your argument that "it was in original ST" is not valid, you cant pick and choose what you like and what you dont
Original ST is halv a decade later than kelvin universe
Not Before like you insinuated
Listen, thatās the Narada. Those are Klingon D7s. You can argue that in the Kelvin timeline things changed, but at this point in time (before things changed) you can clearly see Klingon D7s in the background. And oh, look... Klingon warships in the Kelvin Kirk timeline during the Kobayashi Maru simulation at Starfleet Academy years later with Cadet Kirk (bearing a striking resemblance to an infamous ship...)
Yeah, but your dragging your original argument i commented, across different timelines, with no regards to the fact that the ST reboot would ultimatly change reactions. And to be fair, all real kelvin reboot universe is from jj movies, nothing scopely
Your argument is moot, and you know it. Iāve already commented that the devs can name or classify ships however they want. Itās their game. Just not exactly lore...
Ur agrument is just flame bait lol, keep trying. Try reading what u posted that i replied to?
Or u just a troll who dont care what u say
I don't think I'm getting credit for the race to operations level 20.
@strong pumice Excellent effort !š
GET REFUNDS...!!!
TAKE WHATEVER LEGAL MEASURES YOU SEE FIT!!!
DO NOT BOTHER SENDING FEEDBACK...
NO ONE LISTENS...
@amber rapids , I'm at 14, but I haven't gotten credit for 12 yet. And I made 14 today. Not sure if it only increments at each milestone noted in the event or what.
@amber rapids , sorry Twist, I meant to mention @alpine rivet
I was applauding your effort. That's about as much credit you'll receive on here š¤
GET REFUNDS...!!!
TAKE WHATEVER LEGAL MEASURES YOU SEE FIT!!!
DO NOT BOTHER SENDING FEEDBACK...
NO ONE LISTENS...
THE PVP IS GARBAGE...
I AM HAPPY TO KEEP TAKING PMs ANSWERING QUESTIONS AS TO WHY I THINK IT IS GARBAGE....
THANKYOU TO THOSE WHO HAVE...
The game is buggy as hell today. Despawning ships, half the system is dark and won't be accessed, devs just tell you to clear cache (lol) and a filthy mouthed player in gc who no-one will do anything about despite dozens of complaints.
Mines are all over the shop too, just glitchy as anything. This is on top of the poor leveling system and absolutely terrible pvp. There's quite a few high-level players muttering about how they're very close to quitting.
Not much fun to be had today, unless you get your jollies from attacking miners.
Wow when itās the next system over but wants to take the long way around
Oh and this trip takes 30 minutes
@charred thunder That bug is over 6 months old!
Support showing they listen...
Wtf?
@astral quartz EXACTLY!
@swift dust some of us got special treatment lol
@onyx bear
Hope you find this enlightening.....
500000 is 500,000 not 5,000,000
We're getting a 4 hour update to 'the latest universe' in half an hour, so that might fix things. Bringing my ships home, just in case...
so people who are not on my server have also got the admin messages?
Nope my Server didnt get the message
Yeah. we aren't today
In the same System as NORD, and we didnāt receive a message??
@charred thunder no didnt find one in galaxy chat
Nope I did a double check too š lol
I always take what the devs say with a grain of salt, and never get my hopes up for it to be on time, that way Iām not disappointed if itās ālateā haha š
Message in #ā-official-announcements
Weāll be in the next update rollout I guess š
@alpine verge The D4 thing I pondered too. Certainly not up there with the K't'inga class. I am looking forward to more faction ships (although I am months away from getting any).
I heard about the Mayflower thing the other day and chuckled - well done for spotting it for us!
@native oyster - to be clear for any reading that - all other founder servers.
Founder server; explain.
Well my droogy
@tired plover
The [ROG] server is one of the Founder servers.
š¤ š¤ š¤
@tired plover
What is the top alliance on your server?
REDA
I've not heard of REDA being on one of the three founding servers.
When did these founding servers start? meh.
Are founder servers the ones that were available before the 29th? (Mostly Canada?)
@sweet girder They predate 1st November ... Ours is over 6 months old
Well crap. If my server is the ānew and improved ā version, it still sucks. š
@proud barn ships being sent back to base is a feature. (systems, mines, hostiles were reset... so there couldn't really be a ship left out there...)
The warp is a feature as well but the distances have also been nerfed... so chill.
There were a.lot of systems added as well as links to them. Mostlikely that lead to some previously seen systems to be reset. Just go to them again. And have fun exploring.
G2/G3 mines were also changed..
(Position node size etc)
ships being recalled during maintenance, as announced via admin chat message prior to game going down for it
i have no new systems
warp changes is not a bug but a rebalancing
some servers are still due to be updated tomorrow
Loool @native oyster
can you relocate at all?
we issued a relocation token post patch to cater for those edge cases
let me know
@onyx bear can you get someone to stuff my ships that are on top of my base in it please?
Cos I cant.
:? cn you explain in further details please
Hmmm old map but new warp range, well screw me sideways why donāt ya lol
seems you may need to hit support with this one
Arghh.
Restarted phone and got the flash screen so all good now
@native oyster well that makes it all ok then
fuck up the game for the 2nd time, here's a SINGLE relocation token to make up for it
Lol
They still have 1hr 20 of the 4hrs left ........
Are there images of new / old maps available?
in general chat tulip posted one
most notable is two new clusters around Sorenle and Labac
Oh! I am on the old one then. Looking forward to something new
@sweet girder this is part of the new map ... https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UwkoVJaDgXMfKNXWhRxesnnwSYglf0tdwiN5hF61C68/%3Fcb%3D20181210203151/https/vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/star-trek-fleet-command/images/5/51/Neutral_Zone_Map.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/2000?width=823&height=735
is that the reduced promotion costs?? š
@onyx bear : Should we be able to refine more than 1 batch of 3* mats at 24? The 250 required uncommon ore to upgrade to ops 25 is pretty unattainable refining only 1750 every 10 hours
Most days you get 0 uncommon
YES.
Level 27 is the 3rd batch
@native oyster i got 2nd batch at 24
I wish I did. My refinery is 24. Still stuck with 1750 .. another guy in my alliance didnāt get it till 25
Thatās kind of crappy. Thereās no reasonable way to reach that 25 ops without buying at least 2-3 ultra packs. Thatās way too much of a paywall.
If itās supposed to happen at 24, then Iām bugged. Help! š
Why for last two days. I recall my ships home when signing off. Log in aftet a few hours ship is destroyed. No report! And just now logged in. Ship destroyed in dock. Im only an op12.
Anyone else experiencing this?
Another bug i get. Says my ship will take 6m to repair. When i start repair about a min or two is then added
@worthy fossil what did you expect ? Youāre in starbug
@scarlet ocean im enjpying the game. And love the concept. Just need some heavy work put in i mean coming on to my ships destroyed. Is a bit annoying. As it cost rss to repair. Even thou they were never under direct threat. I dont mine when i go to sleep. So always recall. And im too low level to be base attack. Its just annoying having to pay the rss for the repair. On the bright side. I figuref out how to stop The. WINNER acheivement loop bug from happening.
But if you check well, youāre ship is not really destroyed, you just have to pay for the damages you get before recalling
Itās a known bug for months
I play war and order. And when that game was launch it was rather buggy. Almost 3 years in that game this january I have to say the game is balanced and fixed. Scoperly is no diffrent. It will take time to get all tye bugs worked out and mechanics to a more balance level. As much as we want it overnight , it wont be. I dont see this game finally settling in until about year 2
To avoid that, recall your ship beside your base and then to your base, it wonāt happened again like that
Thanks crayon. Ill do that.
If they continue like that this game will be dead in less than one year
Itās just my point of view
They said the same about war and order. And now that game is a top app
Hope so š¤š¼
@native oyster @onyx bear Its been a while since I went to school, so can you explain how my 112.5 mil Parasteel - 112.2 mil (for Ops 33) = 30.5mil left over?
Shush @native oyster ! We don't report good bugs!!
lol
16 days now to mine enough parasteel for ops 34 rofl
@native oyster i'm not the most data driven in here no doubt, but this doesn't stack up for sure š
I wouldnt mind, but it took me 4 days to mine the last 2 mil para I needed to build it, only to find out I already had 32 mil more than needed! lol
@native oyster https://youtu.be/UIKGV2cTgqA
The full 'New Math' song by Tom Lehrer animated by myself for a school project. I created it in Flash CS4 and ran it through After Effects to convert it. I'm...
This is how you should be counting. ^_^
Maybe? I don't know. Congrats on the parsteel.
@onyx bear is there any compensation coming for the last month of resource hits? I've burnt over 300 mil tritantium on repairs to my gladius in the last month... wouldnt mind getting some back
And seriously you need to adjust component build prices. Itās impossible to afford these!
And make it easier tot refine uncommon stuff!
how about closing a loophole here. i would really REALLY like to be rid of this. guy parks his ship on a planet with missions available and cannot be sent home the fun way.
@onyx bear @native oyster thoughts? mining crew bonuses dont work, and Envoy ship ability bonus is actually applied as a penalty ...... (or deliberate nerf)
so lets work this thorough @native oyster and @onyx bear . I need 213 Million trit for this one upgrade. Best I can do on the numbers above is 11.5k/hr using 4 ships (1 Horizion and 3 x kvort). 213 000 000 / 11500 = 18,521 hours or 771 days.
My mining crew bonus work as stated on my server.
But Iām on a post release server
strange as they dont on my post release server (reda server)
They Expect you raid for those resources and not mine for them.... But with mining rates so low, even raiding wonāt b enough
@native oyster how can u be on a post release server with a 790k ship?
Post release servers are 2 weeks old. āReleaseā was on November 29th
Some people have multiple accounts on different servers.
most of us from my alliance on founders restarted on new server with different accounts etc. we wanted to see what global release was
we play both š
i'm a lowly lvl 18 on new server lol
Hereās my t1 without then with a par steel captain
reported rates arnt what you actually mine
And I timed it with a stopwatch
And it actually works
then we have a difference on servers lol nothing unexpected with scopely
Lolol
My server just opened up 10 days ago
let me check here for parasteel specifcally, since you have timed yours out. my numbers are for trit but I dont think it will change
I Only tested it with par steel
@native oyster I just tested it with gas and having the captain there actually hurts the rates
Not on,y was there no bonus, it made it WORSE
Looks like the server has a problem with its timer counters⦠Iām not sure why but it doesā¦
same
mining crew bonus does nothing
That sucks. I paid 100$ to get those blue ore, gas, crystal officers
@native oyster Even without mining officers, the rate is not matching up and going slower than intended
not here. rate shown for ships without mining crew is rate given.
Not sure if it's been reported, but Officers with <resource> hunter as their captain maneuver don't work. I tested with Shev (Tritanium Hunter) boosted to 40% via other officers. Killed 20 level 9 Takret Milita in Dyrr (79578) and average 87 trit/kill. Then I killed 10 level 9 NPCs with my Trit Hunter setup, and received 85 trit/kill. Sadly my test pool with trit hunter setup couldn't be larger, as the ships spawning to replace the level 9s weren't always level 9 and different levels obviously give different amounts. Nonetheless, with a 40% increase the difference would've been obvious even in just 10 kills
Good to know
The majority of crew bonuses donāt work.
Mission progress has been reset. Ships can no longer reach locations they could before. Crew skills do not have any effect.
Players are somehow able to hide underneath the graphic of a planet, making them untouchable. IS this an exploit, a cheat, a hack?
Seems to require picking up or finishing a quest at the planet so it's not much of an exploit
@ebon pike Requires neither, can be done to mining nodes as well. In both cases, nothing is really gained from doing it besides your ship not being attackable.
If it renders them immune to attack, it absolutely IS an exploit!
Ah yea forgot about faction NPCs. It's more than just sitting at the planet though. You can't be clicked on by another player, so you're immune to pvp. CAN technically be used to block mining nodes as well, but that's just pointless and a waste of your own time š¤·
Is it just sending the ship close to the planet/node from a certain angle that does it?
Double click on mine or 'set course' button on mission planet
cheers
I mean... was avoiding saying that for a reason >.> It could be used in nefarious ways.
<.<
I have found the officer recruitment seems to be bugged for me. When i open a chest and the picture of the awarded officer appears the number i have accumulated does not change.
Regarding the quality of the game we should all request refund because scopely don't take us seriously
How am i supposed to upgrade my officers like this?
Unfortunately i used redeem card as payment so a refund is not possible
I have spend more than 200⬠and it's the first time I feel bad like someone stole me
I just want the officers i should be able to upgrade by now
Im a bit more than that Noura, even with the exchange rate to USD
I love star trek but this game is star mining fleet command
So do the devs read this or not?
I don't know
I really hope they do because submitting a ticket in-game doesn't seem to do anything
All the game design don't work they will lose all the players in very short time
I have submitted maybe 5-6 ticket never have an feedback
For example last patch during server merge I have lost rare and elite officer and ship never solved
I stop to spend a penny on this game
Anterous few comment higher explain very clearly that all the mechanics of the game is a scam
776 days of minig to upgrade torpedo lol....
What is āplanet parkingā exactly?
Scopely black hole
@alpine verge See above
Probably not...
@native oyster so my envoy is sitting 7 hours on a Mine with 18.455 trit and a mining rate of 4.683/h (should mean nearly 4 hours to mine everything) and still one hour left!
@native oyster after updating client today, now getting this bug. Restarting client has no effect http://prntscr.com/ludxri