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native oyster
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A guy in my alliance is 29. He has a 4 lv limit. So I don’t get the 10lv complaint

thin vapor
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Either way the PvP needs someone with the ability to do mathematical equations to fix it...

native oyster
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It does

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Plus missions and npcs scale too fast post lv 20

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I’m 21 being asked to kill 150k power bosses which is absurd

thin vapor
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10 level complaint is because we have new players on our server... I can't upgrade anything due to the need for g3, so losing par, tri and dil aint a problem for me...

native oyster
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You can’t refine g3 until lv 20

hoary marsh
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can you tho

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1750 at a time

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and lousy result

thin vapor
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They will all become lambs at the slaughterhouse...

native oyster
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Ya it’s terribly slow

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This game is less than a week old

Did they let new people on your beta server ?

thin vapor
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Yes... the game has been around since mid 2017... still in BETA now...

native oyster
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My point is it just showed up in. The apple App Store less than a week ago

thin vapor
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Those high level target missions have been around for months...

native oyster
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My server is brand new though. When I started Friday, the highest person was lv 5

thin vapor
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Support hasnt done anything...

native oyster
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Wow

thin vapor
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If we could transfer servers yours would be packed... each server has its own issues because of the devs insane idea to run so many different instances at once... One bjg old mess...

alpine rivet
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Jb posted this in another chat room yesterday, the higher your level the bigger band of players you can hit, a lvl 32 can hit lvl 22-53 .... according to scopely this keeps the game challenging for all šŸ™„

native oyster
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Oh mine is packed now. It have like 4000 people lol

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Has

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I’ve been coding games since 1989, I’d be embarrassed to have my name on this game

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Sloppiest coding I’ve ever seen

thin vapor
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Very sloppy...

native oyster
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See I was told before last week the was BETA and it was officially released last Friday. Apple does not allow beta software in the App Store

thin vapor
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@alpine rivet @onyx bear allowing a lvl 32 player such a range is no challenge to anyone...

It just encourages high level players to raid lower level players and encourages lower level players to uninstall the game...

Where is the challenge?

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Lol Apple obviously do allow BETA on their store...

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They allowed this

native oyster
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Well it’s being listed as a release non beta on the App Store

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It’s just a crappy release

thin vapor
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Maybe putting in a complaint to apple to remove the BETA game from their store could get some fixes...

native oyster
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Apple had yanked stuff like this before

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Has

thin vapor
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Im on android otherwise I would of on release day if I knew of apples BETA stance...

native oyster
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I’m probably going to have Apple reverse by iAPs for this game

alpine rivet
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@thin vapor I Couldn't figure it out either, i guess it's in the 32 hitting a 53 ... as there aren't any that's a huge challenge, similar to the daily goals challenge where we have to get 26/27 lvl faction ships even though they don't exist .....

native oyster
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I have a mission that says preserve Vulcan and kill the Hostiles in the system. U mm the federation is in vulcan. I’d have to kill my own faction!

alpine rivet
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I could live with the bugs and sloppy coding quite happily if only the game mechanics made sense .....

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@native oyster no there are other hostile in all systems

native oyster
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I mean in Vulcan the only ā€œhostileā€ ships are federation ships

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The mission makes no sense

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You kill federation ships. Then the federation rewards you. It’s stupid.

hoary marsh
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ye you kill your own faction

alpine rivet
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Vulcan hostiles

thin vapor
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You have to wait for a Klingon to clear the traders for you... As most people go Fed, Vulcan is usually full of traders... Not hostiles...

hoary marsh
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for me its only federation patrol and freighters

native oyster
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On my server Vulcan is full of federation patrols. Nothing else

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Yep

alpine rivet
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The federation does not approve of slavery

native oyster
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Ohhhh yer saying the fed ships need clearing to spawn the other stuff?

thin vapor
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Oh so the challenge for a lvl 32 is to search for a higher level player... Well at least there is something that vaguely fits the description.

alpine rivet
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As Scar said, if someone has already poached all the hostiles you might need to clear the feds or wait

native oyster
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No on on my server can lol. I’m the 2nd highest lvl lol

hoary marsh
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no im pretty sure its just federation

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ye

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same here

native oyster
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I may have to do it or wait

hoary marsh
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ive done it alrdy

thin vapor
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Such coding greatness... lol

alpine rivet
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Well that should be in bug forum not general chat .... oh ...

hoary marsh
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you can compensate by going to klingon or romulan systems

native oyster
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Good idea

hoary marsh
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i mean you need to do their missions anyway

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if you want to progress with the 4 container quest

thin vapor
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Might as well be in general chat... oh wait... lol

native oyster
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Did you all get the in game surveys from the devs today?

thin vapor
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Are they still asking about JJ Abrams?

native oyster
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No. How do I like the game. What I don’t like. Asking about bugs etc

thin vapor
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Did a survey last month that asked more questions about him than anything else...

native oyster
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It’s a detailed survey asking for feedback on the game, bugs, suggestions, etc

hoary marsh
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nice bug is the alliance help feature Kappa

thin vapor
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Hopefully i get it tonight when i have time to be detailed...

native oyster
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Lol the client server communications are a mess

alpine rivet
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Lol they won't give that survey to us Scar šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚

thin vapor
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Lol yeah hey...

alpine rivet
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@hoary marsh Lost Horizons mission ?? That was always broken for us so we had to get support to finish it manually, I'd be surprised if it's been fixed

hoary marsh
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ye lost horizons

alpine rivet
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I'd message support and tell them you can't finish, if it's still a known issue they might fix it for you

thin vapor
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They haven't fixed Lost Horizons yet... smh

native oyster
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Haha lol

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Look at the patch notes. Yeah right.

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Better pvp matchmaking

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There is no matchmaking

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@thin vapor

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@alpine rivet

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Even their FB page says it was globally launched for Apple and android less than 2 weeks ago

thin vapor
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Better matchmaking? The hell?

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And the Hubris in those version numbers... this is a BETA... BETAs are v0.99 at best...

native oyster
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It’s claiming it’s brand new

thin vapor
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I guess the one thing Scopely excels at is spreading marketing BS...

native oyster
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How have people played it for a year then? Was it in the google store as a beta ?

thin vapor
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Pre-reg interest on android i guess... Google play allows BETA games...

native oyster
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I guess they took a beta and just released it b4 it was fixed lol

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Look at this trailer lol

thin vapor
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I've been playing since August... And others were already in the late teens early twenties in level...

native oyster
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Wow

thin vapor
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My guess is they released it as a quick cash grab and have no intention of fixing it... I'd love to be wrong... But that's the impression I get...

native oyster
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I hope not either

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It’s been in the App Store longer than I thought. 2 weeks vs a week, but they’ve been patching it. Last week we only had 3 ranks in an alliance. Now we have a lot more. Of course that’s a silly thing to patch in when the game is so broken.

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We used to just have agent, operative, admiral. Now we have agent, operative, preimier, commander, admiral.

thin vapor
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Don't you get more ranks through contributing to thr alliance?

hoary marsh
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no

native oyster
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Nope. It was patched in Saturday

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One minute we had 3, restarted the game. It downloaded new assets and boom. More ranks

thin vapor
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Pretty sure we had them ages ago... maybe they flicked the on switch...

alpine rivet
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@native oyster that matchmaking "fix" was when they changed from the old 5 up 5 down for everyone ....

native oyster
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Oooo

native oyster
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Stupid. A lv21 can NOT go to sol and won’t be able to for a LONG time

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Warp 40 needed. Mine is 23

hoary marsh
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try harder!

native oyster
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Lol. It’s just a bad mission that needs fixing

violet fiber
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Hmm, bugs are popping up again. I can’t even enter my home system now

native oyster
still granite
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Never used it

thin vapor
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@native oyster Old ship... garbage ship... Not worth paying the real cash they used to ask for it... I have a fully upgraded one... Sits in the shipyard collecting dust...

still granite
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They crush easily

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Good paperweight

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Hood ornament maybe

thin vapor
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Yeah not worth using... Repair bill is too high... I'd rather use the Turas...

shell basin
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Hehe i already have a jelly

still granite
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I have 1 but never used it

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No point in having a long range vessel when you are locked out of long range

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Kehra travels far enough

alpine rivet
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It's also the reward for the new dominion event ... another reason not to buy

white python
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Jellybeans šŸ˜„

craggy estuary
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That's the whole bug @floral zephyr It shouldn't happen but it does

native oyster
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@alpine rivet that add is for that dominion event...

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@thin vapor that ship is not good for me either, but for those just starting, this is actually a good event to get some Nice stuff.

buoyant grotto
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Seems a little off..

opal lance
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Despite several restarts I can’t get into the system where my ship is to do the mission. Argh!!!!!

thin vapor
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Oh don't worry it... The devs are trying to make the game more challenging... #sarcasm

native oyster
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Even if your ship is already there, click the SET COURSE again. That usually solves it for me.

alpine rivet
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The falling asleep mid warp bug šŸ˜€ its because it takes so long to go one from 1 system to another that the whole crew falls asleep

opal lance
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I tried set course again but even that wasn’t working. In end had to go to a nearby system and then return to where I wanted to be to get in. And the excitement of getting Turas ruined by these graphics!

alpine rivet
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Oh you went for the 2nd hand option šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚

chrome fractal
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<@&509690795536941056> I have found a small annoying bug: If I'm on eg. my Shipyard with the Build Ship button visible, and I click Go on the R&D Department since that needs to be upgraded next, it doesn't replace the Build Ship button with the Research button. Clicking it and then backing out of Ship Construction will make the Research button appear, though.

snow flame
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Why does Premium Recruits sometimes give 10 recruits, and other times only 5? It seems rather random. That is a recent thing for me, roughly within the last week. It used to always give 10 recruits. Anyone else?

granite herald
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One message removed from a suspended account.

buoyant grotto
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They weren't making enough money in that department. šŸ˜‚

floral zephyr
alpine rivet
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Now that's resolved there "shouldn't be any problems moving forward"

#classicline

wispy nimbus
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Players keep in mind we can send 100 reports but then we must leave them time to fix it and it won’t happen in a day.

craggy estuary
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What did you to get an answer in less than 20 hours?

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Wtf?

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If the same bug has been around for weeks there is not enough progress

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And this latest one where sustems become undiscovered, inclusing the one I'm currently mining in or my home system is classic scopely

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Make a change and push it to the servee/client. They will let is know if it fixes things or makes things worse

native oyster
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@wispy nimbus these reports have been going in for months. All we get are copy paste answers. They do not care

drifting junco
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Left the app, came back and one of my ships that was sat in the station in need of repair is now showing as destroyed. I've sent a report on their in-app help system with screenshots. Other alliance members are reporting the same problem. No battle report or other reason for it.

astral vault
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Yeah, it's a known bug.

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People here have said repair time reflects the damage you had previously, not a full repair

drifting junco
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That seems to follow, thanks for the heads up

native oyster
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Been happening for months

astral vault
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Also, it'll happen if you leave while your damaged ship is recalling

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Speaking of... shit.

twin vector
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Why is my damaged ship destroyed when it's on its was back to base. It leaves a system with a little bit of health but is destroyed by the time it arrives

native oyster
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Gosh, there shoudnt be any problem going forward. Hahaha totaly ignoring the actual problem. Hilarious

astral quartz
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I don't really want this fixed, but my miner keeps getting hit and it doesn't go back to base. I have no health at all but I can keep mining. I just can't defend my spot lol

shell basin
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Ahh good old miner hits.l must say i dont miss those days

worthy fossil
worthy fossil
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Im being thrown into a wormhole! šŸ˜‚

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When in exterior view and panning station 360.

thin vapor
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Oh I wish I had that bug... looks cool...

pliant parrot
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has resources to repair

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Game insits I dont

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After a restart etc. C'mon lads.

still oracle
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the real bug is the ship repair cost is more than is shown. calculate once the resources before and after doing repair

pliant parrot
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Yeah, just after discovering that. I'll see one of the devs sunday, words to be had!

still oracle
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they know it for ages.

pliant parrot
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Mmm, there's politics involved.

still oracle
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trump get there also? what now? no more dilithium but more oil and coal?

native oyster
still oracle
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a friend fraternising with the enemy :)

native oyster
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In thĆ© biblical Sense šŸ˜‚

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@native oyster you we're probably lookong at a system that was marked as discovered but which u hadnt visited before. Ik have that too

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Thanks MagicalElf. Good to know jij had that issue also. šŸ˜‰ 😁

lilac yoke
lilac yoke
thin vapor
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@lilac yoke That is a longtime ignored bug by the devs...

Click the "+" next to your latinum and then click the gifts button at the bottom and it could refresh the button in game and you should be able to collect the gift...

glass frost
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^ that isn't true
From the in-game guide.

alpine rivet
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The top pic is also an old bug, use clear localization cache in game to fix
@lilac yoke

native oyster
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@native oyster please fix the warp on our server! We are crippled and can’t explore. Can’t do missions. This EXACT configuration has warp 52 on other servers.

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It’s absolutely absurd that ship is stuck with warp 25

dusk yoke
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@native oyster thats nothing new. You arent supposed to be able to open all systems right away (or within weeks). We as betas still have many missions like that. Also Dark space mission, which cuts us all off from the top of the map even though we all have the warp to get there.

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Dunno why your warp is so low. Glitch?

native oyster
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@dusk yoke yeah but we are stuck. No way to progress or upgrade

dusk yoke
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So are we m’dear

native oyster
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@dusk yoke our whole server is stuck with low warp

silk ore
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Agree this is crazy. I have enjoyed the game but after lvl 20 I feel like it’s totally stalled event tho I have spent a lot of real money on The game. Starting to wonder if we are ALL in a beta and should be asking for $$ back.

native oyster
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@dusk yoke even the enterprise has warp 25

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It’s messed up.

alpine rivet
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@native oyster sorry I know i shouldn't be but ...... šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚

dusk yoke
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100 warp

native oyster
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@dusk yoke that just pissess me off more the devs screwed our server

dusk yoke
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Dark space, doesnt exist.

native oyster
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There’s people on my server who spent 4000$ and can’t even get to sol and their t3 ships are maxed at t7

dusk yoke
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Wait, who has the enterprise on your server?

native oyster
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No one

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We are looking at the stats in the store

dusk yoke
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Let me look, one sec

native oyster
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Ha ya we have nothing like that

dusk yoke
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So, yep, yer screwed, we’re screwed.

native oyster
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They need to fix our server lol

dusk yoke
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They need to equalise all servers.

alpine rivet
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No doubt Wednesday's "fix" will nerf all our ships too, if no one can reach tier 62 there's no need to sort dark space mission

native oyster
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I can’t even do lv w3 missions

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23

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I’m being asked to kill 150k ships

dusk yoke
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Im 31 and cant do 31 missions asked to kill a million and above ships

native oyster
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And a fully upgraded ship won’t get that much power

dusk yoke
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My highest ship is a half mil

alpine rivet
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:drools: at the thought

native oyster
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Why would they nerf a server down like this? Makes no sense

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Even 50,000$ wouldn’t get me to lv 31

dusk yoke
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For you twitcher

alpine rivet
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Stops you complaining about lack of g3 mines if you can't reach any šŸ˜€

dusk yoke
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Mine is weak though, need 123 million trit to finish the upgrades then what a month of tiering? Hahah fuck that

alpine rivet
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Can't even finish my Kehra's 4th tier 😭

dusk yoke
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Well at least we can all agree, game is borked. They messed us all up big time

alpine rivet
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We are not alone ....

dusk yoke
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Haha nope

thin vapor
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Yeah they don't care about the players... just the income... prove me wrong Scopely... go on, prove me wrong..,

silk ore
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So how do we complain ? Cause I’ve put some real $$ into this

dusk yoke
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I am saddened by the tone change from the newbies to now the betas or founders. I really thought they might of gotten the game right for the new people. Guess not

native oyster
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If they don’t fix it, I’ll get Apple to reverse all the money I put into the game

dusk yoke
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Yeah I did that.

thin vapor
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@silk ore there are buttons on the store pages... top right for google..

native oyster
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How can they even read bug reports when they allow us all to talk in here ? Lol

glass frost
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Either spending $150 or more than a week mining to refine 300 uncommon G2 seems like it'll only get much worse past lvl 18.

dusk yoke
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I think they are screwed no matter which way they go here. Update you guys to our warps, then you will see the trit crunch if they dont fix the mines, fix us and screw us over again from over a year or months of playing, of which theyve already done to us.. either way, people pissed.

native oyster
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@dusk yoke we already have a trit crunch on our server lol

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They nerfed asteroid sizes too

silk ore
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@thin vapor I’m on an iPad and don’t see any buttons

dusk yoke
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Yeah, then if they do throw us all in with you, its gonna be lambs to the slaughter.

native oyster
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@dusk yoke they probably won’t merge. Our server is overcrowded

glass frost
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@native oyster
I was wondering why allow 100k storage on an envoy then biggest mine it can jump to at that level is 10k, only for it to get blown up after an hour.

alpine rivet
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Maybe we can have the lvl 30+ systems on their server since they can't reach them .... that way we can all play together

dusk yoke
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Nah, but our server is dying, they will need to do something or open us up to newbies which seems to be happening now.. and again, lambs to slaughter

native oyster
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@glass frost inhave 159k storage on mine with blue mining officers lol

glass frost
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Seems pointless.

native oyster
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And the largest asteroid I’ve seen is 14k parsteel in a lv 30 system

glass frost
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Yup.

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I'm only up to lvl 29 systems.

native oyster
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And I can mine 14k in less than 1 hr

dusk yoke
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Highest parsteel node in a 38 area... 20k

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On ours

native oyster
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They should be like 100k

dusk yoke
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Millions, they should be millions, they were, before the merge

silk ore
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Ugh

native oyster
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The cargo holds make no sense

glass frost
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If you want to ask any questions what my server is like, feel free. I'm the highest on it currently

dusk yoke
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20k per parsteel mine, 73 million steel to upgrade. Hmm

alpine rivet
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Ive got a 9k tritanium mine, more valuable than g3 šŸ¤”

native oyster
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Why did they dumb it all down ?

dusk yoke
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Come to Subezac Twitch, Im not mining anymore

native oyster
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I can see slowing people. But they went too far

glass frost
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Probably to make people fight over mining

dusk yoke
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Sitting with my shield on doing nuffin till they fit it

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Wait till you all get faction mining on bases. Then you’ll scream

native oyster
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Yeah but then the miners quit the game from being robbed

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Faction mining ?

dusk yoke
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Yeah, faction miner big enough to take out your base in one hit

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We have those

glass frost
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Jeeze.

native oyster
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That a player ?

dusk yoke
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Then they take millions, not thousands.

glass frost
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Faction blueprint player ship.
@native oyster

dusk yoke
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Loads and oodles of players. I have faction miners but dont hit bases with em

native oyster
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I saw the faction mining ship. It didn’t look that strong

dusk yoke
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Upgrading mdear

native oyster
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At least on our server it isn’t

dusk yoke
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They hit really high power levels

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One I saw was 350k? I know the 34 players have some serious miners

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Mine is 135, but I quit upgrading it

native oyster
dusk yoke
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Not levelled, my antares is one sec

native oyster
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My base has 300k power. Those miners wouldn’t touch it ?

dusk yoke
native oyster
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Or do those things get really nasty ?

dusk yoke
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they arent levelled.

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Only my horizon is

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They get massive.

native oyster
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But a base with 400k + ships. That can be 1 spotted ?

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Spotted

dusk yoke
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Then you take an intrepid and wait five minutes, then hit repeatedly when shields and ships are dead

native oyster
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Shotted. Damn auto correct

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Ooooo

dusk yoke
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A person will millions can lose everything besides protected in five mins

native oyster
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Thank god the game gives shields like candy

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I have 857 8 hr shields lol

alpine rivet
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Fortunately those ships can only hit people 10 levels below them ....

dusk yoke
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Indeed. Well Im off, Saturday crazy stuff to do. 😊

native oyster
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@alpine rivet our server has a guy who’s like l29 and he can’t even go to Sol or even Suliban lol. That’s broken

hoary marsh
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800 8 hours shields

native oyster
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Yeah lol

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That’s stupid

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You can stay shielded forever

glass frost
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Lvl 19 with 48 8h shields.

native oyster
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Yeah every non faction ship on my server caps at warp 25 (28 with Scotty).

glass frost
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^+1

native oyster
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Maybe nerving the warp was on accident and it just went down with the rest of the stat nerf

glass frost
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Probably a % to all stats

native oyster
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Yep. That’s what I’m thinking

glass frost
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Most likely one of the "galaxy" upgrade path things.

native oyster
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But the didnt nerf the npcs so combat is too difficult

native oyster
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Mystery rewards are broken. Those missions give x0 lol

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Can’t open a x0 box

glass frost
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I'd be more interested in who wrote the in-game guide.

native oyster
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@glass frost bush jr

glass frost
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Like.. it's more of a "this is what we plan for the game to be like".

native oyster
astral gale
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@native oyster G3 rare refining remains broken and is non existent. I have logged a few support cases on this and get the non helpful answers saying rare will happen, it is random.

I have been refining for a month and I have had NO rare ore, crystal, or gas AT ALL!! I can't even buy a pack that will give me the rare for my ship upgrades, isn't that the purpose of having these packs to buy in the first place?

I now have no G3 resources I can refine due to the inability to mine G3 with larger stronger ships sitting on the very few available mines since there are too many players in this galaxy and too few mines, and the warp limit of 40 of the envoy to not reach the other available mines.

native oyster
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@astral gale i have that top. Just today i got 3 rare gas from refining, at it for at least a month

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And also no packs that contains it

opal lance
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Cannot kick bottom inactive guy as option not show ... can make them leader though.

compact ferry
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On IOS I turn off the Music in settings....and any time i switch to another app, or close the program the music is back on.... And I have to go and turn it off again... Bloody annoying bug...

alpine rivet
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@opal lance try promoting them or another search so they are not bottom of the list (known bug)

thin vapor
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Agree with the refining...

The PvP is my main gripe though... No balance... No competition.. No challenge...

hoary marsh
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i mean

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maybe if there was a way to survive without pvp

native oyster
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My Ship is warping with timer of 45 minutes? How can I fix that? It should have taken 3min.

thin vapor
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@hoary marsh Yeah that would be nice... I mean If it was balanced I'd be happy with it's inclusion, as I love PvP games... But as it stands it needs an on off switch...

hoary marsh
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i am forced to raid if i want to upgrade the base

thin vapor
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Yeah the resource speed is porked as well...

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I have started just popping stations just because I have to wait for the g3 ore to refine... So resources are just for repairs... Everything else that can be done is done... But it's not fun at all... But hey, gotta do something whilst waiting for a level 30+ to pop me...

thin vapor
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And anyone who gets annoyed by it should complain so that PvP is fixed...

cinder sundial
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Anyone run into a bug repairing their ships? I have the resources, but it says I don’t and won’t let me repair šŸ˜•

native oyster
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Yeah known bug...tooltip is inaccurate, keep collecting rss from generators eventually you will be able to repair.

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It's probably the dilithium that's short..

thin vapor
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Yup... ship defaults to destroyed even though it has health... Even if the ship was actually sent back as a damaged ship, it could have health... skewing the numbers...

cinder sundial
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Ah ok, thanks all!

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That was me, was playing with nicknames 😃

sudden laurel
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They prolly gonna change the requires rss to be lower than the show. Requirements instead of fixing it... Like they did with the repair time

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No fixing of bugs, just adjusting the bug to lessen complaints

worthy fossil
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Well figured a way to stop the Winner Acheivement bug loop

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When signing out of game. Exit the game by signing completely out. Using the back button on android. When you get message exit game. Click exit game. When you log back in it will have stopped. Seems to happen when you use the O or [ ] Clear All. And then go back into the game at a later time.

opal lance
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This game (in a good way) reminds me of old school games flying around exploring space, doing missions and fighting.

However, for past eight hours on our server none in my alliance have been able to enter systems to continue the story missions. We’ve tried the usual tricks, visit neighbouring systems , continue course etc but still cannot get in.

Till you get this bug sorted, there is no way I can recommend this game to anyone. And the lack of help section acknowledging the problems and timescale to fix, or an idea it might make sense to say sorry for issues Commander have some latinium etc.

Come on guys - love the concept of the game but you got to fix this and communicate with us what is happening and what you are doing about it and how long take to fix!

sage bison
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Never seen that bug

alpine rivet
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@opal lance join the queue

lavish hatch
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Me neither.

midnight sable
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Hello all, today i made an 2nd official complaint to scopely with beglium consumer organization Test aankoop,
I now asked to get involved with legal advice from an attorney, probably they will ask to have more players involved against a complaint at scopely, because of all the money players invested and not been able to play
as a normal game
if your are interested in joining this complaint , please contact me
through Discord ,with details Real life and the money wasted on this Alpha game

native oyster
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Legally there s not much to do against this. By playing u agree to thƩ TOS. And u waive any rights through that

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But i m interested in following this (belgian myself

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Unfortunately you are snookered legally (here in uk / Ireland) the money spent purchased packs which contained the items as described. The speed ups worked, the latnium does as intended etc. despite the game being buggy the items purchased worked so I doubt legally you’ll get anyway. More likely a settlement - money back and ban you from game šŸ˜€. Lol

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Someone on my server had apple refund them 500 bucks. They got banned

lavish hatch
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How much parsteel does a level 30 ship give if you were to hunt them?

native oyster
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Not sure on lvl 30s but lvl 38s give 2200 per ship

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So 1000 odd kills for 2 mil para lol

shell basin
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I wish theyd ban the guy bragging bout getting refund from google, looks like for now he gets to keep his toys and have his money too, kind of defrauding scopely really

lavish hatch
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^_^

native oyster
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Ich bin Level 16.

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@native oyster you should be able to get that from raidingother bases

native oyster
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@native oyster not really. raiding is very hard at this level as the bases are too strong. most are 1 mil+ strength and best ships we have at this level are 1 mil which cost 12 mil tritanium to repair. max you can raid, if you are lucky and get a faction cargo ship to raid is around 1 mil. so it costs you nearly a full repair on your main ship to get very little return

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@native oyster wow that’s broken. can’t even mind that much titanium

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yep lol we've been complaining forever. game doesnt work after lv 26 ishas repair costs on faction ships are too high, build costs are too large

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@native oyster This wasnt discovered six months ago in beta? Or have they let it go that long?

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when scopely took over they changed the mining. previously the mines scaled accordingly to system level. so the big players were out in lvl 50+ systems where we could mine 1 to 2 mil trit a day easily.

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repair costs never used to be so high. my faction ship used to be a mil trit at best for a ful repair, now its 12 mil

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Sounds like Scopely doesn’t know what the hell they’re doing

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unfortunately they know excatly what they are doing. the game is designed for hte first 20 odd levels, to get players in and spending money. they havent thought about mid to end game.

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On my server t3 ships are limited to warp 26. I think they are trying to keep us out of the high-level areas until they can fix the game

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I can’t even get to Andoria to finish my missions

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thats terribble. max tier kehra has around 80 warp

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My kehra is tier 4 80k power , warp 25 WITH Scotty. And I have every single prime research purchased

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The non-founder servers are completely preventing people from reaching mid game

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The non-found her servers are completely preventing people from reaching mid game

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Yeah our stats are completely nerfed as well. I have missions to kill 150 K bosses and no way to kill them

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We Can also only refine 1750 grade 3 at a time

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that was always the case @native oyster you will soon have missions where you have to kill 1 mil+ npc's and its impossible. Even ont eh founding server we couldnt do them.

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Which makes it impossible to tier up our ships

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you get more options as you tier up the refinary and ops

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Look at the crap stats above

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the problem is they got rid of hadley. Hadley gives a nice % bonus to warp speed but so far I know of nobody that has got him since scopley takeover

lavish hatch
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Acotty gives a flat bonus.

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Scotty*

native oyster
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yep

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Scotty gives a flat three warp which is useless

lavish hatch
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For my level he's stil relevent.

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Relevant* +

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They changed the warp in the new servers.

native oyster
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I think they nerfed the warp on our server to keep us out of mid game

lavish hatch
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So expect changes on wednesday.

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Ojhj you are on the new server. =))

native oyster
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I’m on one of the new servers

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founders will be nerfed on wednesday - yep lol

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A bunch of us are going to start demanding they give the new server is the same stats as the founding servers

lavish hatch
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To be fair they changed the system req too... before you couldn't access factiona without 20+ warp

native oyster
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more likey they will give us founders the same warp ranges as new servers, than the other way round

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No there’s no way they will suddenly cut you off from half your space exploration

lavish hatch
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Yup. I'm fine with that if it means all those new systems.

native oyster
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The entire founder server would quit the game if they cut your warp in half

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but then most of us have tier 9 ships so we will probably still be able to reach everywhere. as they brought in teh Dark Space mission that cut us off from lvl 45+ systems anyways

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Warp 69 is the max you need on foudners server, as you cant progress into Dark Space (lvl 45+ systems) until you complete that missions. And nobody has found that mission yet (highest player is lvl 34, we think its tied to lvl 39 and g4 ships)

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Yes but what happens if they suddenly cut you down to warp 26… You won’t even be able to get to Andoria or SOL

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You won’t be able to access any system over level 34

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Over

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And i cant even buy jelly

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from memory you get a larger warp bonus at tier 7 on kehra. think it was 2 or 3 per tier, then jumps to 5 or 6 per tier

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From a screenshot I saw the other day, a t4 kehra from your server had warp 56 vs my t4 with 26

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thats right price Belreion. around 5 euro per pack for the first ones

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hmm, kk. let me see what ships I got to check with

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Look at a max tier talla

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What’s your warp on it?

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Haha ya. Our warp sucks

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8 less yea

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The only thing I can think of is they want to slow the new servers down so they can figure out how to deal with mid and end game

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Easy fix would be if they raised the astroid sizes and the speed that we mine

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They should give us 1 million sized astroid nodes

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thats what we had pre scopely. out in lvl 60 systems we had masive roids and extraction rates. could pull in 1 mil parasteel per ship per hour

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112 mil for a building doesnt seem so bad then

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I wonder why they got rid of it

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Did they ever say why? Or did they just remove it

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thy never said, but basically because everyone was mining, there was no need for pvp.

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But the problem is they went to far… Now nobody can afford the buildings

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Sounds like they have a basic math and logic problem… These do not sound like very experienced developers to me

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Single person could sit down and solve all these math problems within a week… It’s not that difficult LOL

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its a scaling issue. they have linked building costs and repair costs to scale with player / ship level. But they havent done the same for mining

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Single person could sit down and solve all these math problems within a week… It’s not that difficult LOL

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Its been offered. I actually work a few streets over from Digit in Dublin and even offered to go in their office as a player and show them the issues in person. As an ex ISD development player with CCP I figured that was a nice offer, but they didnt even acknowledge the email.

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Well it’ll be interesting to see what the patch gives you guys on Wednesday… It would be nice if they fix the balance problems on the new server as well

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fix on wednesday will be to give us the same mining system you have and nerf our ships

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i.e. more mines. not bigger or faster ones

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Our minds are tiny

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same as ours. 20k on parasteel, 9k on trit

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In lv 30 systems it’s 6k tri, 14k steel

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wow they've nerfed it even more for you then

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I'm on a new server too, and its 20 / 9 there

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That’s absurd because my best mining ship does 6000 trit/hr. So I have to login constantly to move it

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what ship / crew?

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Envoy and I have all the mining officers including the blue ones

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tier?

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Max 7

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same as us then. 6055/hr I get

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But even 20k steel Isn’t enough when you have buildings that cost 112 million LOL

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max envoy has warp 40, you should be able to use that to get out to andoria

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No not on our server it does not

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Max envoy is 23

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On my server

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Yep we can’t get that much and warp speed as limited to 2

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Takes 10 to 15 minutes to fly everywhere

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Just pray they don’t give you are warp

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Then your envoy will be stuck at warp 23

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See and the problem is they nerfed our distance… But they never changed the missions… So we got all these missions to places we can’t go

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It’s like the idiots change something and they don’t realize it breaks something else

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lol I dont use my envoy that much, as I have the 3 x faction miners at high elvel which are almost as good and have massive warp

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and amssive cargo

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The faction miners on our server have a warp 40 limit lol

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actually thats a lie, they nerfed the Kvort - it has a 36 base warp whereas the other two miners has 63 base

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On yours?

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yes

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All base 30

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36 / 63 here

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A lot of people are going to demand your warp on the new servers

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Not sure if they will listen

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thy wont, they will nerf us down. as we all have tier 9 ships we'll still be able to reach warp 60 systems. jsut nothing else

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whats base warp on gladuis for you?

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see ours is only 36 so its not a massive drop

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Ya but the increase per tier is nerfed on all our ships

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would need to check tier up's. I mean at tier 7 my gladius is around 90 warp I think

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Brb

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actually we can see tier difference. Envoy base on my server is warp 18, and max tier 7 is 40. Compare that to your envoy when back 😃

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the fact they removed Hadely from all the lock boxes thou would tend to agree they are trying to limit warp range. Hadley is still shown on characters screen but there's no way to get him (that +15%, and higher on promotion used to boost your range a lot 😃

native oyster
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My envoys are maxed, warp 40

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TallBearToday at 1:11 PM
No not on our server it does not
Max envoy is 23
On my server

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@native oyster are you on a new server or a founder server?

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Anterous, its 45 kr on my server

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Founder

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my server? lol SAUS, HoM etc?

native oyster
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I m on thƩ server that opened in augustus this year when game opened tot rest of europe

lavish hatch
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There are 4 "founder servers at least. 2 eu 1 nz 1 us (maybe two us)

native oyster
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@native oyster how can u know ehat max-warplvl any envoy on your server is? Are you thr only player? Do you own the other few 100's accounts on your server?

native oyster
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? you think that other players have different stats on their ships across the same server at max tier? I guess its possible but highly unlikely. The system is setup that the ships have a base warp speed which is then increased at each tier of the ship, up to the maximum tier for the ship. The Envoy max's at tier 7 (which mine is at). I would expect everyone else on the same server to have the same maximum warp on their Envoy's. But technically you are correct, its an educated assumption not a proven fact. I can get the other top players here to check if that would help.

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@native oyster ah okay, different server to us then although I think we opened around that same time, but most of the players here were on the first beta server from 2017.

native oyster
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@native oyster i dont know how to see what server in on.

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45 kr is 5 euro ish right?

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@native oyster 45 kr is 6,03 euros. 40 kr is 5,36 euros

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ah okay. first packs for us are 5.49 euro so similar

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Close, think it depends on taxes also. But in the same currency in danish kroner my brother pays 40kr while i pay 45 kr. Its hardly fair.

worthy fossil
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@native oyster i can tell you Anterous definately does not own 100s of accounts. On our server he only has 1.

native oyster
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lol dont think I've claimed to own 100s, or even 2 on the same server 😃

worthy fossil
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I never heard it šŸ˜‚ or even seen it for that matter. So you goos in my book. Thanks for the info youve been posting ma dude.

native oyster
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no worries. shout if you need anything

worthy fossil
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āœŠšŸ˜šŸ‘

alpine verge
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This game is turning into Lost in Space (at least my navigators can’t figure out where the heck they’ve been in the last 30 minutes...) The bugs and glitches are getting so bad that it’s almost unplayable at this point. Release? Not even close. Beta? This resembles an Alpha state, at best.

glass frost
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Alpha with live servers.
@alpine verge

native oyster
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I will post this here as I will kindly assume it is a bug (everybody is entitled to his own opinion).
I had a mission I couldn't finish because I had to go to a system warp 40 and the best I could get (with Scotty) was 39. So I worked hard (2 weeks) to gather all the resources and finally built a ship that got me warp 40. So I immediately checked the mission again... and now it says the system is warp 48!
FYI, I'm on the BEB/BAD/WIKI server.

charred yew
alpine rivet
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Numbers aren't the developers strongest trait, although normally it's the 1's and 0's they have trouble with

proud barn
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@everyone.

You really have to question just how much experience the people designing and coding this game have. Is it a tutorial project in Game Design 101 in some college course?

thin vapor
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@proud barn basic maths was obviously on in the morning... šŸ’¤

alpine verge
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@alpine rivet Strongest trait? Remedial third grade arithmetic doesn’t seem to be one of their stronger suits, either. I’ve never seen more math or number related errors in any other online game. Although with the number of glaring issues and bugs in this game, this probably shouldn’t surprise anyone.

wind warren
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I love how the mine I'm on changes from one commodity to another 2 hours into mining it. What a waste of time

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Still waiting to see if these devs have ANY strong suits.

novel jacinth
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Devs please - when I want to do a research or build, my fat fingers missclicked three times already and lost about 450 gold because it clicked "Instant build" - please make a "Are you sure" button because I did not want to Instant build!!!

thin vapor
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@native oyster We should be able to use each dock seperately to repair ships...

The docks also should be on a seperate control panel to ships, say the shipyard, so that you can have 10 ships out in space, and 6 ships at the docks repairing or tiering up...

And when one of those 10 ships gets destroyed or returns home it goes to the shipyard... Allowing the officers to be moved to other ships... And gives the docks a better meaning...

This would also give the founders a use for Realtas and Jellys...

alpine rivet
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@thin vapor No ... we should be able to repair ships in the hangar, docks should always be available for ships in and out ...

thin vapor
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@alpine rivet basically what I mean... Just different wording...

alpine rivet
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Yes but ... i don't want scopely to have an excuse that I can't repair a ship and build 1 at the same time. The hangar is a useless building currently, basically just a museum of ancient ships to remind you how much resources you wasted......

obsidian trail
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does anyone else have the problem that they can't switch to the system view (iOS) -- it works sometimes after a restart, but not always... I was just shot off a mine and NEED MY REVENGE!!!!!!!!

lavish hatch
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@alpine rivet asked about this in the q&a... seems like it's pretty hard to do that.

thin vapor
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@alpine rivet that is exactly where I was going with it...

lavish hatch
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I don't know why... but implementation issues or something. Point is not gonna happen at least not anytime soon.

strong pumice
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I keep getting notified that I've reached a milestone for the dominion leaderboard event.

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No new rewards that I can tell, just a repeated notification

onyx bear
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thanks for the heads up, known issue with spammy milestone trigger

strong pumice
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No problem. Thanks @onyx bear

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@onyx bear Do you know if it's a bug that I'm not seeing a store item to buy to speed up Prime Hulls?

onyx bear
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depending on actual resource needed, might not be an option to fast track it and requires mining

alpine rivet
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@strong pumice latinum buys time, buy latinum packs to speed up builds

shell basin
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Latinum packs are a joke, u can get more in packs with other stuff

strong pumice
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Thanks @onyx bear .

sleek flicker
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the packs in general are jokes, like the 5,49 are gone the moment you buy them

strong pumice
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@alpine rivet, It needs 3* uncommon refined ore, and doesn't give me the option to pay with latinum. Just links to the store, where there are Boost packs for ship shields and research speed, which have the gas and crystals for other research, but not one with ore.

alpine rivet
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Ah, yeah, as i understand it you have to spend lots of money on the packs you don't need to get to the dollar value packs with items you need, but better to check with a scopely rep @onyx bear @strong pumice

terse haven
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Some packs don’t show up until later levels even though the research is available earlier. Why don’t ask me but that’s just the way it is. This is especially noticeable in the level 20-23 range with the later prime researches...

alpine verge
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@native oyster Will the Founder server update address the explored system status glitch that’s been plaguing everyone for the last week?

alpine rivet
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@alpine verge don't think it will affect your post launch beta server at all ... as we understand it the coming update is for founding server only

alpine verge
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@alpine rivet I’m on one of the Founder servers.

alpine rivet
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Not if you have the system status glitch

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1 founder server, everyone else is now beta to help improve our game, thanks šŸ˜€

alpine verge
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You’re confusing me. We have the Release servers with the new map/planets/resources and the Founder (aka: Beta) servers with the exploration glitch. I’m not aware of a third type.

alpine rivet
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There are many servers as i understand, founder servers are minimum 6 months old. These were rolled into 1 a month or so prior to "launch" date .... many beta servers were added after between then and official launch date (seriously no one cares about them, purely experimental), then you have servers post launch ....

So which group are you in ? @alpine verge

dark pollen
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False: Beta servers were not bundled together a month ago. They remained isolated! At least three waiters to my knowledge: before August / September until Nov. 01 / Nov 02 until Nov. 29

alpine verge
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@alpine rivet I’ve only been playing for around a month, so I assume one of the Beta servers then (we have the galaxy exploration glitch). So if I’m on a beta server, does that mean we’re not getting the update tomorrow?

dark pollen
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The beta server before 01 November have all had the same update between 01-02 November

terse haven
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Server was around for more than a month @alpine verge

alpine verge
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@terse haven Quite possibly, but I don’t think it’s been around since August?

terse haven
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Yeah it might have, when I installed the game it was showing as a month or two old I think. We are the Canadian server which was the first server I believe

dark pollen
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Short History of the Game: Stlg1:

  • The game was born in 2017 with a company other than Scopely. After a few months they abandon the project and it is abandoned for 5/6 months before Scopely takes over the project (teams of sound games based in Los Angeles and Dublin).
  • Launch of the game on Android on March 19, 2018, but they do not discover in pub through a few countries that are restricted to Australia, Romania and Ireland. On March 21st, the bar of 5000 downloads is reached.
  • July 09, 2018, they improve their versions, which makes them exceed the July 18 the bar of the 10000 downloads.
  • August 28, 2018: A new version of the improved game is available. In the wake of September and October 2018 they focus pubs in new countries such as Norway or Belgium. This will allow the first francophones to discover the game.
  • 01/02 November 2018: New version and server migration! The old ones stay on a dedicated server and the new players have a new server.
  • November 29, 2018: Official release of the Game / World Launch!
alpine rivet
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@alpine verge my understanding is you won't get anything Wednesday, it's founder server getting new map (and hopefully extra) on Wednesday

terse haven
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If our map is considered okay the game is already dead...

alpine verge
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So which is the Founder server if there was a server migration at the beginning of November?

alpine rivet
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@onyx bear jb can you enlighten the proletariat ?

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@alpine verge you'd of been playing pre November

onyx bear
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sorry folks as you know, I've came onboard a bit late, just a few days prior WWLaunch, so I lack the previous history

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enjoyed that recap though

alpine verge
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@onyx bear Still doesn’t answer the question if Canadian players are seeing a server update tomorrow to the new map as well as fixing this exploration glitch.

onyx bear
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servers aren't concretely sharded per actual countries, afaik, so cannot answer this one either I'm afraid

alpine verge
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It would be helpful to know:

  1. What server we are on.
  2. What version or build of the game we’re running.
  3. What if anything is being sone to fix the issues we’ve been experiencing.
onyx bear
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may want to rephrase what exploration glitch is though?

dark pollen
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@onyx bear I reconstituted myself this history from research and including information given by @native oyster I think. I just miss maybe some Beta Country Testers.

alpine rivet
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@alpine verge I'm thinking it's no šŸ™„

alpine verge
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In Galaxy mode, systems randomly turn blue or white - so you lose your exploration progress. Quitting the game sometimes reverts it back to the correct progress. Other times you have to clear localization.

onyx bear
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oh gotcha, was unaware of the issue. ty

alpine rivet
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Yeah that's a beta server issue, not something our/your founders have

alpine verge
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@onyx bear We just get lip service filing support tickets. The canned response is ā€œthe devs are working on itā€.

native oyster
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@dark pollen I was in beta 2017, which was Ireland and Romania only (apart from one dude in Singapore who we just can't shake off)

lavish hatch
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I wish i had known.

alpine rivet
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There almost as tenacious as Aussies

lavish hatch
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I'm romanian.... i would have joined.

native oyster
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Australians were added to the powderkeg in spring of this year when 'beta 2' started

alpine verge
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When is @native oyster arriving so we can b*tch at someone directly?

dark pollen
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Thank you I will be able to improve my version of the history šŸ˜‰

alpine rivet
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And god knows if you add Aussies all the shit is headed straight for the fan

native oyster
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@alpine verge that is a fair question. I have been too silent here. Won't say I am at 100% speed here - but have at me.

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Same for you @native oyster

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the first lot weren't too bad @alpine rivet , but you s2 lads take the biscuit lol

alpine verge
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@native oyster Can you please tell us what server we’re all on, who is getting this new update and what if anything is being to address the most egregious in-game glitches? Because if there’s no light at the end of this tunnel we should probably quit at this point.

alpine rivet
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Answer the question then we'll have at you @native oyster

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@native oyster biscuit moulds were broken when we were baked

native oyster
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This one @alpine rivet ?

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It would be helpful to know:

  1. What server we are on.
  2. What version or build of the game we’re running.
  3. What if anything is being sone to fix the issue we’ve been experiencing.
alpine verge
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Yes. It’s very confusing when we see ā€œupdateā€ and not have a clue if it applies to us or not.

native oyster
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@native oyster basically it boils down to how many items have to ticked off your list?

alpine rivet
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@native oyster i didn't ask what the question was, i asked you provide an answer

native oyster
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Ha! Well that list is open in front of me and I am going to say not enough. @native oyster

terse haven
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I think we all want to know what is going on. My game is so broken right now it is almost impossible to play.

native oyster
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No, i got that @alpine rivet but I did want to answer the wrong question.

terse haven
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@native oyster 1. what is going to be done to fix the massive galaxy map issue experienced by many players now? There is no response from support and no information. Just lost systems

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@native oyster 2. What is the plan to address the obvious and glaring PAY TO PLAY broken balance in the game? Will we actually be able to play and upgrade buildings/research/ships more than one per year?

alpine rivet
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@native oyster at this point if you answer any question I'll be impressed šŸ˜‰

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I think what we want to know as a starter is a) who gets Wednesday update b) what does it include

native oyster
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@alpine rivet Im going to get you what I can now - not going any where until I have something. Just may need to be poking other people.

thin vapor
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@native oyster Will there be a new PvP system?

Not the dynamic garbage one where 32s can hit 22s...

alpine rivet
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@native oyster understood, really didn't expect you to have any information about an update an entire day before it was due, so please take your time

native oyster
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@native oyster the main issues affecting all servers and players is the imbalance in the game that runs through mining rates, repair costs and the unfair PvP set up. New systems and mines as promised in the imminent update to the founders server is a step in the right direction but will not address these issues whatsoever. Realistically how far are we from having these issues addressed?

alpine verge
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@native oyster. Um, still waiting on the server/game version question. How many different game builds are live, how can we tell which one our particular server is running and will this update tomorrow (or whenever it goes live) give us the same features as the players who have the newest version? This is a fairly straightforward question.

alpine rivet
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Can we all relax, chill, etc. and allow @native oyster to answer questions already on notice .... then we can tear him a new one (colloquialism he may not understand, so do it gently)
šŸ™„

alpine verge
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@native oyster. The second question (which Ifrit alluded to), is what is being done to address the Galaxy/system exploration status issue that has been plaguing us (no idea what other server shards this may be affecting as well). Thank-you.

dark pollen
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In my opinion, but I could be wrong: there are two different versions of servers currently:

  • Several Beta Testers servers that have remained isolated and all of which are on the same version after November 2nd, 2018 (from March 2018 to November 28th, 2018)
  • Several "new" servers (after November 29, 2018)
native oyster
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Okay, I am going to take the ones I can, and get to the ones that I want conformation on. But try and get to all of them.

alpine rivet
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Happy to "conform" to those šŸ˜€

native oyster
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And thanks @alpine rivet appreciate the call for calm. I get the colloquialism - and know I deserve it. Been too quite.

dark pollen
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The update of tomorrow would therefore concern several Beta servers (those from March 2018 to November 28, 2018)

alpine rivet
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@native oyster you been following the Oz slang lessons we doing for JB šŸ¤”

native oyster
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Soo... first the upgrade costs, things will continue to be improved - but there won't be some sweeping change as we had for the migration. The older servers accelerated progression, and yes, when the change happened I think we all felt like the breaks had been hit. But the team are going to constantly look at feedback and use this along with where they are seeing bottle necks to refine and improve this to make progression smoother. I am currently stuck unable to get enough G2 Ore... so I know it can be slow going.

Similarly, the PVP is going to be refined in a similar fashion - it is punishing right now.

alpine verge
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@alpine rivet Can you just let Q2 answer the outstanding questions without interjecting a new comment or subject every 30 seconds? You’re the sole reason behind a lot of misinformation and confusion that some of us have been trying to get clarification on. For some of us the game is unplayable right now, so this is about as critical as it gets (short of outright quitting). Thanks.

native oyster
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When the server moves over - players included will see additional nodes, ship repair speed will increase, and there will be a lower cost to promote officers. On top of that there will be more missions in systems.

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Unfortunately though, there is currently no way to see your current server.

terse haven
alpine verge
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@native oyster Is @dark pollen correct in that there are only two server versions right now? Let’s call them ā€releaseā€ and ā€pre-releaseā€.

terse haven
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My home system is unexplored. This massive galaxy wide issue has been around for a few days now

alpine rivet
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@native oyster repair speeds increased but what about repair costs ?

native oyster
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@alpine verge Yes, @dark pollen has that right.

terse haven
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@everyone can we let q2 answer about the bug affecting the galaxy right now

alpine rivet
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@alpine verge try and follow the thread

thin vapor
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@native oyster Will there be ANY change to the current pvp mess in the update?

Even simply returning to the old 5+/- would make a lot of people happy enough to slog through the remaining bugs...

alpine verge
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@native oyster Ok, so regardless of what specific server shard we are on - we are slated for the ā€Founderā€ update posted in the official announcements, tentatively scheduled for tomorrow?

native oyster
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The team is looking to address the inability to see your server and game version - but it won't be until next year.

terse haven
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@native oyster what about the glitch with the galaxy map. It breaks the game. I cannot play like this. Can you answer please

native oyster
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@alpine verge If you have been playing since before the migration yes.

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@terse haven the issue where systems appear as unexplored?

terse haven
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@native oyster yes, my map is permanently glitched now

alpine verge
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@native oyster I’ve been playing since the beginning of November. I believe our server shard pre-dates that, but since you indicate there are only two server versions I would assume so. We do not have the new map or any of the new features since the official release. Does that help clarify? It would be easier to simply tell you what server we’re on, but I digress...

alpine rivet
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@native oyster can you confirm the coming update is for pre merger servers only, or for all ?

If it's for pre merger servers can everyone not included please back off

native oyster
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It is pre-merger server. After that people should have been on the new galaxy.

terse haven
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@alpine rivet if your galaxy map looked like mine you would want answers too. So, no I won’t back off until I know when the game breaking bug is fixed. This isn’t even about balance which needs addressing, this is about actually playability of the game in its current state

native oyster
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@terse haven I am checking that now, I know its a known issue and actively being worked on, will see if i can find out more.

alpine verge
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@native oyster I don’t know what the ā€new galaxyā€ is. Only that if I download the game on a new device I get a ton of systems and features my version doesn’t have. Does that help?

terse haven
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@alpine verge that would mean that we likely are part of the upgrade group.

native oyster
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@thin vapor There will be no PVP update with the change this week.

alpine rivet
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@terse haven understand your frustration, but it's clearly not being actioned in this update ... we've been waiting far longer for an update so please let us understand what is coming, then you can rant and rave all you want

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@alpine verge i suspect you're founder server, very few additions since September

thin vapor
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@native oyster highly disappointed... There has been weeks of feedback regarding the need for a fix...

So should we uninstall and wait for the patch in 2019 for a fix to the PvP to make the game worth any time put into it?

alpine verge
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@native oyster Just to confirm then, the plan (after the tentative Founder upgrade tomorrow) is that there will only be one server version going forward. That’s all I basically wanted to know.

native oyster
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It isn't in this update @terse haven - it is top of the teams list and actively being worked on. However, it seems to be an issue that they anticipate taking a few weeks to fix.

alpine rivet
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@native oyster no pvp update, please see JBs vote, this should be top priority as it's why many are quitting game

terse haven
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@native oyster will there be a work around released then on this issue or are we expected to simply make the best of a bad situation ?

alpine verge
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@native oyster Oh, can you quell or confirm the rumour that we’re all getting a latinum credit for all the hassles along with the upgrade?

native oyster
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Ship repair costs... cost is based on time... so they will drop too. 😃

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And yes, there will only be one server type after this update.

thin vapor
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@native oyster @alpine rivet I am done wasting my time...

Weeks of feedback ignored...

alpine rivet
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@native oyster can we get a point by point (however brief) list of what will be in the update, please get it added to "official announcement" list asap

native oyster
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@terse haven a restart can sometimes solve the issue - but we know it isn't a long term work around.

alpine rivet
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@thin vapor 😢 understand

terse haven
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@native oyster I tried all work arounds known to the community. Nothing is working. All systems are stuck as is now. They are no longer fluctuating but they are still wrong.

native oyster
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@alpine rivet sorry, @ yes. will do

alpine verge
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@alpine rivet I actually like the dynamic PvP range as opposed to the fixed +/-5.
@native oyster Thank-you. If it’s easier to update in the Founder announcement that’s cool.

native oyster
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@alpine verge I don't have that information here. I'll see if I can find out.

alpine rivet
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@terse haven standard support response, uninstall, turn off phone for 3 min, spin around 7 times, restart phone, install app, oh same issue ? Maybe it's our end ....

terse haven
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@alpine rivet yup that is where I am at...done all of those things 3 times just for good measure lol

alpine rivet
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@alpine verge yes but if you're not on founder's server with lvl 30+ you don't understand it

sudden laurel
alpine verge
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I am on the pre-release server with Lvl30s present.

terse haven
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@alpine rivet agreed we are amongst the higher or in the same alliance as the power players. We have a level 30

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@sudden laurel I have seen that...a game restart solved it

sudden laurel
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@terse haven game really bursting at the seams

alpine rivet
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@alpine verge @terse haven send me a pm, I ll send you my latest attack, then tell me it's ok

native oyster
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@sudden laurel apparently if you fully relaunch the game that should solve that issue. Although I hear jumping up and down while you do it helps...

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(if it doesn't let me know)

alpine rivet
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@Q2 can we get a point by point (however brief) list of what will be in the update, please get it added to "official announcement" list asap

pliant parrot
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@native oyster is the Repair Cost saying N but really being N*1.15 about to be fixed yeah?

terse haven
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@alpine rivet no need to convince me of the PvP issue. I can extrapolate based on my experience that it will become a growing problem as people level up

alpine rivet
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Quick yes or no let's me sleep šŸ˜‰

native oyster
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Ill be putting it up in a moment (okay about 10 mins) @alpine rivet I listed everything previously - so it will just be that repeated.

alpine verge
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@native oyster. Is anything being done about the G3 uncommon refine rate? It’s next to impossible (even with Refinery 23) to get anything but common. And with only 2x attempts daily, it will take months to accumulate enough for Operations 25. I understand this improves @ Refinery 26, but if you can’t get to Operations 26 (let alone Operations 25), well...

terse haven
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@alpine verge let alone upgrade ship modules...

dark pollen
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@native oyster : Another important question for all players. The passage from one server to another for the players who wants it is it planned for the beginning of next year?

sudden laurel
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@native oyster i did summersaults on a precipe while squinting during the reboot, it worked

native oyster
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@sudden laurel Glad I could help - hope you stuck the landing.

scarlet ocean
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@native oyster following what you said : « The team is looking to address the inability to see your server and game version - but it won't be until next year.Ā Ā» could you please tell me how they will make an update if they don’t see our servers and don’t know in which version we are ?????

onyx bear
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on our side we do know, it's just not appearing in the game UI as for now

native oyster
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Yes, thank you for clarifying @onyx bear

onyx bear
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just wanted to pitch in and give additional context as per why some stuff is pushed early next year. As you may be aware, there is soon to be a 'cut off' from any app submission from the various stores, for the holidays. That is why there won't likely be a new client until then

scarlet ocean
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Ok, it’s clearer like that, thanks

terse haven
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@native oyster are we to live with the galaxy map issue for 3 weeks+ then until you can find a fix?

native oyster
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@dark pollen Don't have any news on that. I know its a huge feature for a lot of people who want to play with clans and friends. Stay loud about it, and I'll keep asking.

alpine verge
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@native oyster: Confirm/deny: After the upgrade warp range and ship strength may change? (ships on the release server seem to have less warp range and overall strength)

dark pollen
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@native oyster Thanks at least for that honest answer. Try to push the developers with this priority aspect of the game from my point of view.

onyx bear
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@terse haven this being a server side fix only, doesn't need a new client - and should roll imminently as announced / Q2 will pass on further details on when that does happen

terse haven
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@onyx bear thanks for the clarification and confirmation on it being a server side bug not client as I suspected.

alpine rivet
onyx bear
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it's a very fresh and rogue initative on my part, to get some soprt of pulse on it

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the end goal is to advocate further to devs about going back the old way, or finding a new one. just to add more wight to the claim. bear with me

alpine verge
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@native oyster Anything on ship strength and warp range changing in the update?

native oyster
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Nope just update the founder server announcement as requested.

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So with tomorrow’s update to founders server - can we check off a few things. 1. Are mining rates (not additional mines but the actual extraction rate) going to increase. 2. Are ship repair costs / component costs / tier up costs and times going to reduce? 3. Is Dark space mission connect to Ops lvl 39? 4. Are ships getting warp nerf to match those on the new servers? Thanks. @native oyster @onyx bear

dark pollen
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For me @native oyster :
They were very clear on the issue saying that there would be after this update: only one version of the server! ! knowing that the new servers have what you quote here. The answer should be yes for everything šŸ˜‰

native oyster
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@alpine rivet Yup, I know about it, and am keeping a close eye. Personally, I think the theory of the dynamic formal is better, it is just a bit to wide at the moment - especially at lower levels.

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@native oyster anything on my questions?

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@alpine verge Not as far as I am aware.

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@native oyster Double checking. All I have mentioned all I have been given - but trying to get that confirmed.

alpine rivet
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@native oyster a 300k ship zeros a 350k station because its 10 lvls higher ? You think this makes sense ?

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A mining vessel btw, not a war ship, and it carries away 1.5m rss

native oyster
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@native oyster In order...

  1. No, but as you say, more mines.
  2. Repair costs will be lower as will the time. Other two, no.
  3. No
  4. No 100% on that one, Ill have to check else where - may not find out today.
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@alpine rivet Not unless its that mining vessels from the first JJ film. But I see your point, and add it to the PVP concerns.

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@native oyster thank you for the answers, I don’t like them but thank you lol

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Glad I can at least offer answers.

alpine rivet
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In context I could bash my my best mining ship out against the lowest opponents i can hit all day and still get nowhere

native oyster
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Adding more mines is a complete waste and will what’s left of pvp as no one will have to fight for them. What’s needed is faster and bigger mines so throes that chose will mine, and those that pvp the miners will get a good return. Can’t have one without the other

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I can see that @alpine rivet and why it can frustrate.

alpine rivet
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But if you can post in official announcements some clues on what will/won't be addressed that will be appreciated

native oyster
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I am going to hop out to another channel here - follow if you like, but we will try and keep it to the channel topic. I only have another 45 mins and I want to see how many more new holes I will end up with.

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As to tier up costs - 700 million teitanium is needed for my level 7 gladius to make level 8. That is never going to happen even with more mines. It’s over 4 years of solid mining with 4 ships!

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(General discussion by the way, just need to catch up with what went before)

alpine rivet
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@native oysterfyi

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I get this in game from another scopely game

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Why can't we get similar

native oyster
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Full patch notes and visibility on all of this are very high on my list once I am at full speed @alpine rivet - I am thankful to all of you for being so patient, I know how frustrating it was for you to have me drop in day one when you all had so many questions. Please continue to ask and keep it front of mind. I'll continue to try and earn everyone's trust.

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I don’t think trust is the issue. The main problem is the devs aren’t listening to those that actually play the game! The entire game st the moment is developed for lvl 0 - 20 play, no thought has been given to lvl 20 - 30 not 30+. We have the knowledge but it’s not being addressed

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Even a response from the devs as to why they are discounting our knowledge would be good. Perhaps it’s something we hadn’t thought of and would make sense if only we knew!

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I give a clear example. Lvl 33 Ops needs 112million parasteel. That’s 311 days solid mining. Previously mines had a higher extraction rate and 112 million would have taken a week tops. Why was it changed? And how are wexpected to gain such huge sums on this little 20k mines that take hours to complete????

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If devs could answer a simple well phrased question like that, it would go someway to addressing the community

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@native oyster @onyx bear

alpine rivet
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@native oyster the frustration of your first day is nothing compared to the frustration of nothing for the last week. Perhaps a set calendar notification of when someone will be online ? Ie Monday, Jb 2-4 pm Tuesday q2 9-11am .... you get the idea. And if everything could be set to gmt time as a global game then we could all understand šŸ˜€ @native oyster

onyx bear
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right, i'll take a shot at it. note this is not dev approved and my personal interpretation of it at this very moment.

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so Q2 mentioned how pre migration was a fast tracked balance etc... not gonn come back on that

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he also hinted that we'll always bee looking at smoothing out the curve

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at this very moment, as the game has just barely launched globally, additional content being developed etc. there's a need to 'pace' the progression

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but as time goes, this is typically the sort of things that will be ironed out and eased on

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so no, we do not ask you for 33 years of mining here, just some more patience as we go on aggregating game data and make required amends.

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hope that helps grasp some context on it all

brittle crown
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aren't you getting more from dailies? I'm in the new servers so can't tell much but mining is clearly not a solution to gain resources like parsteel for me

onyx bear
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aren't folks swimming in Parsteel though? I just have way to much of it at any given time

alpine rivet
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@onyx bear i kind of understand where you coming from, but as players we would prefer to see some of these ongoing issues dealt with rather than new content added

native oyster
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Thank you @onyx bear I understand balancing issues (I develop myself lol). However this appears more a structural scaling issue. Clearly you have concentrated on early game for the global launch (I have no issue with that btw) but by ignoring the founders you are losing experienced players who give feedback to help develop for the new servers.

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The founder server gives a clear opportunity for testing

onyx bear
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i can relate to that and very much advocating to take steps on this asap.

native oyster
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We’ve all accepted we are beta testers lol so you might as well use as such

alpine rivet
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@onyx bear lol, swimming in parsteel ? Cannot get enough, only way to get it is to raid lower lvl peeps. We assume that is why you have extra ?

onyx bear
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nope not even

native oyster
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@onyx bear I need 112million for ops 33, where’s your base? Lol

alpine rivet
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@onyx bear honestly i think if you could move to founder server we could teach you how to play šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚

native oyster
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I so need 650 mil trit for my gladius upgrades - you got that spare too? Lol

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Since we’re at it missions need addressing. We’ve had so many auto completed by support due to bugs that it’s almost silly! The npcs need complete rebalancing. Getting a 1.3 mil boss kill at lvl 17 is impossible (damn hard even at lvl 33 tbh!).

onyx bear
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yeah i can also relate and will poke the team about this aspect of the game

native oyster
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I still dont beleive you about Dark Space mission thou lol all missions seem to pointing towards lvl 39/40 as the access point. I'm on Preputal Motion mission now which text is pushing me to the progentor race and finding them

alpine rivet
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Sadly the same missions we were getting support to resolve 2 months ago are still affecting new players... it's like no one gives a s***

native oyster
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I refuse to believe that any player under lvl 39/40 can access Dark Space @onyx bear you going to stick with that line? lol

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What level are you @onyx bear ? Parsteel definitely becomes more of a crunch around mid 20's

shell basin
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Fifteen i hear

onyx bear
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im 18

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didnt have an issue with parsteel ecept very first 2 sessions

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but i'll keep an eye for it to fade away as I progress through ty

native oyster
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lol keeping quiet on that one then. rgr

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Yeah at 19 i had 20mil parsteel at 23 I'm saving up for each building lol

shell basin
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Once you reach stage of every building costimg 1-3 million, good luck

native oyster
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@onyx bear How you planning on getting faction ships? There's only 280k faction rep rewards available from missions (not that you can complete them all due to imbalance of boss) and you need 500k for first faction ship.......

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Aye ops 24 is 3.4mil i have 2mil...will likely have to make the difference in latinum...if i ever get the uncommon g3 ore needed

shell basin
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Its difficult but not impossible dydpeptic.l usually wait til double events to level crew, finish buildings and researches... u can work this system, just takes patience, and a lil refine luck

alpine rivet
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Is it just me ? I just reallly want JB to join our server with his lvl 18 station fully stocked with resources, I'm salivating at the idea
.... hey you thought zombies were bad, try surviving a day in our server @onyx bear

shell basin
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Haha introduce him to tulip

alpine rivet
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@shell basin forget tulip, hes fresh meat for our lvl

native oyster
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I'm 6 away after a few saved up ship xp and officer promotions...station events are out i only have generators lect to upgrade lol

shell basin
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Dibbs

sudden laurel
alpine verge
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@alpine rivet Try using actual ships (and not just your station) to defend. Also, shield bubbles are an excellent deterrent...

native oyster
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Peace shields should be up as much as possible if you are vulnerable. Ships don't do much in protecting from base drains.

alpine verge
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@native oyster Why is the Klingon D7/K’t’inga battlecruiser called the Bortas in STFC?
You may notice a passing resemblance...
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/K't'inga_class

Memory Alpha

The K't'inga-class battle cruiser was a primary class of warship in service with the Klingon Imperial Fleet in the late 23rd century and with the Klingon Defense Force in the mid-to-late 24th...

native oyster
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@alpine verge it might make an appearance when you get past lv39....

alpine verge
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@native oyster Except there is no Bortas class ship of any kind...

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Where’d you get that image?

native oyster
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From the previous build of the game it's a g4 ship

alpine verge
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Any more G4 ships? I heard about the USS Kelvin.

native oyster
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Kelvin is/was there

alpine verge
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Any G4 Romulan ships?

native oyster
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Yeah it's the same as g3, each faction will have an uncommon, rare and epic. I think the valdore is the epic rom g4

native oyster
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@alpine verge Well, it means revenge in Klingon, right? I know the Bortas appeared in TNG episodes , but there it was a Vor'cha class. So, I guess as this is 100 years or so before, they had another in service? Klingons must love Revenge as a name, and there have been a stack of Enterprises.
Not sure it qualifies as a bug though...

strong pumice
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Revenge is a dish best served cold.

native oyster
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Unlike Gagh. Which should still be warm and alive.

strong pumice
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The episode with Riker doing the officer exchange on the Klingon ship was a good one.

proud barn
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@native oyster

I have seven systems that I have previously visited that are now blue undiscovered systems. One is Fastoff. There is no bounds to which this app will descend in terms of becoming unplayable.

alpine verge
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@native oyster It’s a bug if there isn’t a K’t’inga class ship in the game because even in the Kelvin universe you would still have had the D7 (Star Trek original series) or K’t’inga (Star Trek movies). Then again, it’s your game so you can name it whatever CBS approves with your licensing agreement... I previously pointed out the error with the Enterprise (that it’s a Constitution and not Mayflower class, among other discrepancies in the description). I was merely trying to point out that it’s a fairly iconic (and common) ship in the Star Trek universe.

The ā€œBortasā€ (D7) should actually be the top tier ship in the Klingon tree as it’s quite a bit larger than the D4 (there’s that ā€œDā€ class designation again), but I know that screws up your rock-paper-scissors implementation of having the Federation with an Explorer, Romulans with a battleship and Klingons with an interceptor.

Then again, if there is a 4* K’t’inga class lurking about all is forgiven.

sudden laurel
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@alpine verge wouldnt original ST be happening at a later time? Adult kirk, where as kelvin is reboot "young" kirk

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Also to point out on ships, in original gene ST lore, fed never built any battleships, rom ships generally larger ships, with more firepower, klingon smaller ships, nimbler to better outmanouvre enemies

muted hinge
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@alpine verge There is Uncommon 4* K'T'Inga ship exist on old beta server. But it did not come with it when we all move to Scopely server. It might will add later in future.

alpine verge
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@sudden laurel Here’s an image from a deleted scene with the Narada where it was surrounded by Klingon D7 warships after being crippled by the USS Kelvin. So yes, the D7 was present in the Kelvin timeline.

sudden laurel
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@alpine vergeyes kelvin, which is spinoff, alternate reality. But kelvin still reboot with young kirk, so your argument that "it was in original ST" is not valid, you cant pick and choose what you like and what you dont

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Original ST is halv a decade later than kelvin universe

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Not Before like you insinuated

alpine verge
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Listen, that’s the Narada. Those are Klingon D7s. You can argue that in the Kelvin timeline things changed, but at this point in time (before things changed) you can clearly see Klingon D7s in the background. And oh, look... Klingon warships in the Kelvin Kirk timeline during the Kobayashi Maru simulation at Starfleet Academy years later with Cadet Kirk (bearing a striking resemblance to an infamous ship...)

sudden laurel
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Yeah, but your dragging your original argument i commented, across different timelines, with no regards to the fact that the ST reboot would ultimatly change reactions. And to be fair, all real kelvin reboot universe is from jj movies, nothing scopely

alpine verge
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Your argument is moot, and you know it. I’ve already commented that the devs can name or classify ships however they want. It’s their game. Just not exactly lore...

sudden laurel
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Ur agrument is just flame bait lol, keep trying. Try reading what u posted that i replied to?
Or u just a troll who dont care what u say

strong pumice
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I don't think I'm getting credit for the race to operations level 20.

alpine rivet
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@strong pumice Excellent effort !šŸ‘

thin vapor
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GET REFUNDS...!!!

TAKE WHATEVER LEGAL MEASURES YOU SEE FIT!!!

DO NOT BOTHER SENDING FEEDBACK...

NO ONE LISTENS...

strong pumice
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@amber rapids , I'm at 14, but I haven't gotten credit for 12 yet. And I made 14 today. Not sure if it only increments at each milestone noted in the event or what.

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@amber rapids , sorry Twist, I meant to mention @alpine rivet

alpine rivet
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I was applauding your effort. That's about as much credit you'll receive on here šŸ¤”

thin vapor
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GET REFUNDS...!!!

TAKE WHATEVER LEGAL MEASURES YOU SEE FIT!!!

DO NOT BOTHER SENDING FEEDBACK...

NO ONE LISTENS...

THE PVP IS GARBAGE...

I AM HAPPY TO KEEP TAKING PMs ANSWERING QUESTIONS AS TO WHY I THINK IT IS GARBAGE....

THANKYOU TO THOSE WHO HAVE...

astral quartz
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The game is buggy as hell today. Despawning ships, half the system is dark and won't be accessed, devs just tell you to clear cache (lol) and a filthy mouthed player in gc who no-one will do anything about despite dozens of complaints.

Mines are all over the shop too, just glitchy as anything. This is on top of the poor leveling system and absolutely terrible pvp. There's quite a few high-level players muttering about how they're very close to quitting.

Not much fun to be had today, unless you get your jollies from attacking miners.

charred thunder
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Wow when it’s the next system over but wants to take the long way around

swift dust
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@charred thunder That bug is over 6 months old!

thin vapor
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Support showing they listen...

shell basin
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U got it too?

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Im loving the speedups n free rss

astral quartz
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Wtf?

swift dust
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@astral quartz EXACTLY!

shell basin
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@swift dust some of us got special treatment lol

proud barn
astral quartz
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We're getting a 4 hour update to 'the latest universe' in half an hour, so that might fix things. Bringing my ships home, just in case...

native oyster
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so people who are not on my server have also got the admin messages?

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Nope my Server didnt get the message

pliant parrot
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Yeah. we aren't today

charred thunder
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In the same System as NORD, and we didn’t receive a message??

native oyster
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@charred thunder no didnt find one in galaxy chat

charred thunder
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Nope I did a double check too šŸ˜‚ lol

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I always take what the devs say with a grain of salt, and never get my hopes up for it to be on time, that way I’m not disappointed if it’s ā€œlateā€ haha šŸ˜†

native oyster
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Damn... Maybe later today?

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All other severs get updated tomorrow

charred thunder
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We’ll be in the next update rollout I guess 😃

native oyster
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@alpine verge The D4 thing I pondered too. Certainly not up there with the K't'inga class. I am looking forward to more faction ships (although I am months away from getting any).
I heard about the Mayflower thing the other day and chuckled - well done for spotting it for us!

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@native oyster - to be clear for any reading that - all other founder servers.

tired plover
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Founder server; explain.

native oyster
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Well my droogy

proud barn
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@tired plover
The [ROG] server is one of the Founder servers.

native oyster
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There's 3 founders servers

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The founding founders (ROG HOM SAUS) and two others

tired plover
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šŸ¤” šŸ¤” šŸ¤”

proud barn
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@tired plover
What is the top alliance on your server?

tired plover
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REDA

proud barn
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I've not heard of REDA being on one of the three founding servers.

tired plover
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When did these founding servers start? meh.

sweet girder
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Are founder servers the ones that were available before the 29th? (Mostly Canada?)

swift dust
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@sweet girder They predate 1st November ... Ours is over 6 months old

sweet girder
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Well crap. If my server is the ā€œnew and improved ā€œ version, it still sucks. šŸ˜‚

lavish hatch
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@proud barn ships being sent back to base is a feature. (systems, mines, hostiles were reset... so there couldn't really be a ship left out there...)

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The warp is a feature as well but the distances have also been nerfed... so chill.

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There were a.lot of systems added as well as links to them. Mostlikely that lead to some previously seen systems to be reset. Just go to them again. And have fun exploring.

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G2/G3 mines were also changed..
(Position node size etc)

onyx bear
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ships being recalled during maintenance, as announced via admin chat message prior to game going down for it

native oyster
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i have no new systems

onyx bear
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warp changes is not a bug but a rebalancing

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some servers are still due to be updated tomorrow

native oyster
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restarted and have the new map

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but still old warp ranges

lavish hatch
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Loool @native oyster

onyx bear
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can you relocate at all?

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we issued a relocation token post patch to cater for those edge cases

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let me know

dusk yoke
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@onyx bear can you get someone to stuff my ships that are on top of my base in it please?

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Cos I cant.

onyx bear
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:? cn you explain in further details please

native oyster
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Hmmm old map but new warp range, well screw me sideways why don’t ya lol

dusk yoke
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They refuse to go in.. bounce off

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Cant manage nor swap

onyx bear
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seems you may need to hit support with this one

dusk yoke
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Arghh.

native oyster
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@native oyster well that makes it all ok then

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fuck up the game for the 2nd time, here's a SINGLE relocation token to make up for it

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Lol

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They still have 1hr 20 of the 4hrs left ........

sweet girder
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Are there images of new / old maps available?

onyx bear
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in general chat tulip posted one

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most notable is two new clusters around Sorenle and Labac

sweet girder
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Oh! I am on the old one then. Looking forward to something new

sweet girder
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Also, rofl this morning:

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A mere 44k latinum. No problem!

native oyster
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is that the reduced promotion costs?? šŸ˜‚

sweet girder
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@onyx bear : Should we be able to refine more than 1 batch of 3* mats at 24? The 250 required uncommon ore to upgrade to ops 25 is pretty unattainable refining only 1750 every 10 hours

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Most days you get 0 uncommon

alpine verge
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YES.

native oyster
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@sweet girder you get a 2nd batch at lv25

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Then a 3rd near lv 30

swift dust
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Level 27 is the 3rd batch

alpine rivet
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@native oyster i got 2nd batch at 24

native oyster
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I wish I did. My refinery is 24. Still stuck with 1750 .. another guy in my alliance didn’t get it till 25

sweet girder
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That’s kind of crappy. There’s no reasonable way to reach that 25 ops without buying at least 2-3 ultra packs. That’s way too much of a paywall.

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If it’s supposed to happen at 24, then I’m bugged. Help! šŸ˜‚

native oyster
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Ik got a lvl 25 refinery and still only one batch for 3*

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the game as a whole

worthy fossil
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Why for last two days. I recall my ships home when signing off. Log in aftet a few hours ship is destroyed. No report! And just now logged in. Ship destroyed in dock. Im only an op12.

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Anyone else experiencing this?

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Another bug i get. Says my ship will take 6m to repair. When i start repair about a min or two is then added

scarlet ocean
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@worthy fossil what did you expect ? You’re in starbug

worthy fossil
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@scarlet ocean im enjpying the game. And love the concept. Just need some heavy work put in i mean coming on to my ships destroyed. Is a bit annoying. As it cost rss to repair. Even thou they were never under direct threat. I dont mine when i go to sleep. So always recall. And im too low level to be base attack. Its just annoying having to pay the rss for the repair. On the bright side. I figuref out how to stop The. WINNER acheivement loop bug from happening.

scarlet ocean
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But if you check well, you’re ship is not really destroyed, you just have to pay for the damages you get before recalling

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It’s a known bug for months

worthy fossil
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I play war and order. And when that game was launch it was rather buggy. Almost 3 years in that game this january I have to say the game is balanced and fixed. Scoperly is no diffrent. It will take time to get all tye bugs worked out and mechanics to a more balance level. As much as we want it overnight , it wont be. I dont see this game finally settling in until about year 2

scarlet ocean
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To avoid that, recall your ship beside your base and then to your base, it won’t happened again like that

worthy fossil
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Thanks crayon. Ill do that.

scarlet ocean
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If they continue like that this game will be dead in less than one year

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It’s just my point of view

worthy fossil
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They said the same about war and order. And now that game is a top app

scarlet ocean
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Hope so šŸ¤žšŸ¼

worthy fossil
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Im having my fingers crossed here

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šŸ˜†

native oyster
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@native oyster @onyx bear Its been a while since I went to school, so can you explain how my 112.5 mil Parasteel - 112.2 mil (for Ops 33) = 30.5mil left over?

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Shush @native oyster ! We don't report good bugs!!

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lol

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16 days now to mine enough parasteel for ops 34 rofl

onyx bear
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@native oyster i'm not the most data driven in here no doubt, but this doesn't stack up for sure šŸ˜›

native oyster
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I wouldnt mind, but it took me 4 days to mine the last 2 mil para I needed to build it, only to find out I already had 32 mil more than needed! lol

lavish hatch
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This is how you should be counting. ^_^

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Maybe? I don't know. Congrats on the parsteel.

native oyster
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@onyx bear is there any compensation coming for the last month of resource hits? I've burnt over 300 mil tritantium on repairs to my gladius in the last month... wouldnt mind getting some back

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And seriously you need to adjust component build prices. It’s impossible to afford these!

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And make it easier tot refine uncommon stuff!

faint pendant
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how about closing a loophole here. i would really REALLY like to be rid of this. guy parks his ship on a planet with missions available and cannot be sent home the fun way.

native oyster
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@onyx bear @native oyster thoughts? mining crew bonuses dont work, and Envoy ship ability bonus is actually applied as a penalty ...... (or deliberate nerf)

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so lets work this thorough @native oyster and @onyx bear . I need 213 Million trit for this one upgrade. Best I can do on the numbers above is 11.5k/hr using 4 ships (1 Horizion and 3 x kvort). 213 000 000 / 11500 = 18,521 hours or 771 days.

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My mining crew bonus work as stated on my server.

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But I’m on a post release server

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strange as they dont on my post release server (reda server)

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They Expect you raid for those resources and not mine for them.... But with mining rates so low, even raiding won’t b enough

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@native oyster how can u be on a post release server with a 790k ship?

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Post release servers are 2 weeks old. ā€œReleaseā€ was on November 29th

astral vault
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Some people have multiple accounts on different servers.

native oyster
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most of us from my alliance on founders restarted on new server with different accounts etc. we wanted to see what global release was

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we play both 😃

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i'm a lowly lvl 18 on new server lol

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Here’s my t1 without then with a par steel captain

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reported rates arnt what you actually mine

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And I timed it with a stopwatch

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And it actually works

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then we have a difference on servers lol nothing unexpected with scopely

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Lolol

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My server just opened up 10 days ago

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let me check here for parasteel specifcally, since you have timed yours out. my numbers are for trit but I dont think it will change

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I Only tested it with par steel

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@native oyster I just tested it with gas and having the captain there actually hurts the rates

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Not on,y was there no bonus, it made it WORSE

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Looks like the server has a problem with its timer counters… I’m not sure why but it does…

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mining crew bonus does nothing

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That sucks. I paid 100$ to get those blue ore, gas, crystal officers

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@native oyster Even without mining officers, the rate is not matching up and going slower than intended

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not here. rate shown for ships without mining crew is rate given.

fallow jetty
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Not sure if it's been reported, but Officers with <resource> hunter as their captain maneuver don't work. I tested with Shev (Tritanium Hunter) boosted to 40% via other officers. Killed 20 level 9 Takret Milita in Dyrr (79578) and average 87 trit/kill. Then I killed 10 level 9 NPCs with my Trit Hunter setup, and received 85 trit/kill. Sadly my test pool with trit hunter setup couldn't be larger, as the ships spawning to replace the level 9s weren't always level 9 and different levels obviously give different amounts. Nonetheless, with a 40% increase the difference would've been obvious even in just 10 kills

ebon pike
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Good to know

alpine verge
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The majority of crew bonuses don’t work.

steep current
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Mission progress has been reset. Ships can no longer reach locations they could before. Crew skills do not have any effect.

steep current
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Players are somehow able to hide underneath the graphic of a planet, making them untouchable. IS this an exploit, a cheat, a hack?

ebon pike
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Seems to require picking up or finishing a quest at the planet so it's not much of an exploit

fallow jetty
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@ebon pike Requires neither, can be done to mining nodes as well. In both cases, nothing is really gained from doing it besides your ship not being attackable.

steep current
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If it renders them immune to attack, it absolutely IS an exploit!

native oyster
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Faction NPC's can still get ya

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Planet parking been around since June

fallow jetty
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Ah yea forgot about faction NPCs. It's more than just sitting at the planet though. You can't be clicked on by another player, so you're immune to pvp. CAN technically be used to block mining nodes as well, but that's just pointless and a waste of your own time 🤷

ebon pike
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Is it just sending the ship close to the planet/node from a certain angle that does it?

native oyster
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Double click on mine or 'set course' button on mission planet

ebon pike
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cheers

fallow jetty
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I mean... was avoiding saying that for a reason >.> It could be used in nefarious ways.

ebon pike
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<.<

wheat swan
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I have found the officer recruitment seems to be bugged for me. When i open a chest and the picture of the awarded officer appears the number i have accumulated does not change.

winged silo
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Regarding the quality of the game we should all request refund because scopely don't take us seriously

wheat swan
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How am i supposed to upgrade my officers like this?

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Unfortunately i used redeem card as payment so a refund is not possible

winged silo
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I have spend more than 200€ and it's the first time I feel bad like someone stole me

wheat swan
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I just want the officers i should be able to upgrade by now

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Im a bit more than that Noura, even with the exchange rate to USD

winged silo
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I love star trek but this game is star mining fleet command

wheat swan
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So do the devs read this or not?

winged silo
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I don't know

wheat swan
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I really hope they do because submitting a ticket in-game doesn't seem to do anything

winged silo
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All the game design don't work they will lose all the players in very short time

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I have submitted maybe 5-6 ticket never have an feedback

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For example last patch during server merge I have lost rare and elite officer and ship never solved

wheat swan
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They probably really don't care as long as they're making money

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Terrible

winged silo
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I stop to spend a penny on this game

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Anterous few comment higher explain very clearly that all the mechanics of the game is a scam

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776 days of minig to upgrade torpedo lol....

alpine verge
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What is ā€œplanet parkingā€ exactly?

winged silo
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Scopely black hole

ebon pike
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@alpine verge See above

steep current
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Probably not...

native oyster
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@native oyster so my envoy is sitting 7 hours on a Mine with 18.455 trit and a mining rate of 4.683/h (should mean nearly 4 hours to mine everything) and still one hour left!

floral zephyr