My issue isn't with the solo milestone event it's the lb's, specifically the wide banding of lvl's with fixed score targets...it becomes a test of endurance, who's more willing to f themselves up with no sleep for 3 days for a handful of pixels
#š¬-events-feedback
vagrant topaz
ionic briar
Because it is useless to compete with them
The milestones are actually doable if you know how the event works
Like if you take a long lasting ship and just run a burning crew and do damage instead of killed a hostile
vagrant topaz
Milestone = 15secs, lb 11-25 = 2hrs, 4-10 = 4-5hrs, 2-3 = 7hrs+, 1st = non stop grinding
At least those are the hours you need to put in on my server in my bracket (I'm ops 38)
mint umbra
4 tiers to the solo event, I kill 3 bosses and I finish the 4th tier. Either make it harder with better rewards or increase the number of tiers.
How about an event like this with unlimited tiers? Rewards and requirements just keep doubling until you cant do it anymore.
rose pier
does anyone know how many points you get for a defense platform in station event
viscid phoenix
It varies depending on what research you have done. LCARS is the best place to check for that info @rose pier
rose pier
i think lcars is down ansd one of my players is trying to push for a win
sharp token
lcars 2.0 works fine
rose pier
rgr thanks
viscid phoenix
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lavish patrol
@ionic briar itās all wrong what you said, L25 and one recent L26 dominated the L24-27 SLB easily. Even other ships like ViāDar are proven useful. And you ask me about the speed ups and repairs. Iāll answer you, what about the 300-500 common recruit tokens I got? The 10-12 relocation tokens (theyāre more expensive than you think). The 2-3k interceptor parts. The 300-500k officer exp... additionally as L25 I used Vahklas, which a L24 can easily use
The only problem with SLB is that at L28 thereās people who can farm bosses and people who canāt. The people who canāt, cannot compete
ionic briar
@ionic briar itās all wrong what you said, L25 and one recent L26 dominated the SLB easily. Even other ships like ViāDar are proven useful. And you ask me about the speed ups and repairs. Iāll answer you, what about the 300-500 common recruit tokens I got? The 10-12 relocation tokens (theyāre more expensive than you think). The 2-3k interceptor parts. The 300-500k officer exp...
@lavish patrol L25 dominated because you don't use horizon for events... and I'm not entirely sure about that spectrum, but at my level, most are dominated by l31 and i'm at lv 29. Moreover it takes a month to upgrade a single part
I can reach anywhere between 20-25 rank if I grind all day and use reasonable amounts of speedups
lavish patrol
Yes, but thatās implicit, at L28 you enter the ābig leagueā as you have access to the monsters that are sally, bortas and centurion. Is kinda hard to do events for L28-29 that ignores the āpotentialā power those ships can have. I have L29 in my ally who are stronger than L31-32
@ionic briar in short, for any farming event for L28-29 youāll be screwed unless your L28 ship is tier +5
ionic briar
Yes, but thatās implicit, at L28 you enter the ābig leagueā as you have access to the monsters that are sally, bortas and centurion. Is kinda hard to do events for L28-29 that ignores the āpotentialā power those ships can have. I have L29 in my ally who are stronger than L31-32
@lavish patrol It takes time... I've been sitting at this level and trying to upgrade my cent and sally as much as I can...
lavish patrol
Why would I use horizon to farm L22 elite separatist? Seems a terrible choice to be honest
chrome dust
I donāt know about all that I used my legionary killed bosses at my ops 27. Solo event done in a single kill and the LB event was won after a single run too.
Unless someone put in the tons of hours to kill elites to catch me which meant I had to do a second run in bosses. Overall not bad
I may have went a little overboard this one, but was trying to help the alliance a little bit, again this is the 25-27 lb on my server though
vagrant topaz
Yours must be a young-ish server....those scores wouldn't get you on the board in mine
lavish patrol
@chrome dust legionary tier? Congrats as that was impressive
lavish patrol
And crew ?
vagrant topaz
chrome dust
And thatās for the 25-27 level lb?
lavish patrol
@vagrant topaz I think thatās another bracket
vagrant topaz
It's the up to 39 bracket
chrome dust
Yeah not even in the same bracket as me
lavish patrol
Heās mentioning the L24-27 bracket
vagrant topaz
25-27 is just as competitive (about half those scores because...ships)
lavish patrol
Yeah but if you can kill 40-41 bosses per run you can solo the leaderboard in 2h instead of in +14 hours
Iād say itās relevant information
vagrant topaz
The whole lb system needs an overhaul, it's frankly unreasonable and irresponsible to expect players to put in 15+ hours per day on a crappy mobile game
chrome dust
Just good at grinding and smart about it is all
vagrant topaz
"Good" hahaha...that implies there's skill involved in this game...good one š
There's zero skill involved in sticking pike crew in your strongest ship and tapping reds until your eyes bleed
chrome dust
Well I didnāt grind till my eyes bled that was like an hours worth of work so I suppose if you like doing that go for it
lavish patrol
You missed the point, he got 1st position because heās the only L27 with a tier 7 L26 ship AND Pike.
chrome dust
He just likes putting others down thatās fine let him have his fun
vagrant topaz
It's not hard...just requires a lot of recruit tokens/transporter patterns
chrome dust
Nope not at all got him at ops 23 as Iām sure most people did
vagrant topaz
Easy enough to get if you've set that as your primary goal
warm mortar
I'm at Ops 29 and still don't have Pike...
ionic briar
I'm at Ops 29 and still don't have Pike...
@warm mortar I got lucky and got 100 pike shards at once... if it wasnt for that, I still wouldnt have unlocked him
warm mortar
I'm not that lucky lol, I'm 6 shards from him
forest spear
Credit where it's due. As much as the Borg event made me want to randomly break things - the faction hunt is great.
I wish it reset every 8 hours like it used to, but hey- good event regardless.
shy grotto
faction hunt is the best event. it could be a little bit more heavy for me. all others are really lame.
dense cliff
Would like to see rewards be better for the albās. 9 unc crystal and 9 unc ore really doesnāt incentivize to grind the extra time or spend the extra on repairs just for that. Would love to see greater rewards to get alliances and players in them to really work towards it.
open otter
Or as usual, the top alliance takes home the rewards regardless š
clever cradle
I still need 40+shards for pike
vagrant topaz
No rss rewards and minimal g3...you can't progress on faction hunt alone. All those recruit tokens and xp are worthless without a viable source of officer badges
languid marlin
At some point, you are correct. But a lot of us still need to get a ton of officer shards and faction credits because we have not reached the badge bottleneck yet.
vagrant topaz
I know...just tired of everyone saying fh is the only good event. On it's own it's next to useless, we need a solid rotation of events that cover all forms of progress related rewards....ask8ng for never ending fh is self defeating
And badges...in any quantity above the zero we have rn
hexed blade
I don't get to pick the event or the rewards...if I can't choose my event, then let me choose my rewards! Can you imagine what a difference that one change could make for everyone?!
sudden zodiac
I had hoped that the COW event would be the route to badges, a whole alliance event where the top band was pitched at a challenging level that rewarded one or more badges to those that participated.
hushed elk
Do people see the silver packs to buy in their stores for COW? My server don't have them
iron python
@hushed elk CoW Alliance Boost Pack has silver trophies - in the offers section
hushed elk
I do not have any packs to do with COW in my offers
I have June Choice, Borg funds, Franklin and armadas
as do others on my server
iron python
Hmm. Private message me a SS of your player ID please? I'll see if we can get someone to look into it.
somber hinge
just another glorious idea of the developers: need to fly in a lvl25 borg system, just to get the command killing lvl 27 hostiles! and on the top that, you need to return in the lvl 25 borg system for a single boss fight... great stuff, scopley! logic up the last details!
severe cairn
Yeah I had all my ships deployed got those missions
dapper marlin
Since the borg store stuff is gonna end soon. After this are there going to be any events or special recruit tab that will be available to obtain 10 of 10, 5 of 10 and the others?
old quarry
Panic said they will probably be put into chests at some point, but we don't know when.
vagrant topaz
Panic says a lot of stuff, only about half actually seems to be accurate/true
old quarry
I believe that what he says is true at the moment he says it but the devs often change their minds later on.
dapper marlin
Hmmm..so better keep our hopes really low then
wild nebula
Any chance of event to win franklin blueprints, please?
boreal canyon
Love CoW, but we need more tiers š¬
open otter
You're in a lucky alliance that's full of actives, we have yet to hit the first tier
boreal canyon
Not lucky, we built our alliance up from the remnants of a few other smaller alliances. Now we're in the top 3 for the server.
If you're in small alliance or one that's full of inactives, why don't join an active one?
open otter
We're top 10, our server isn't as active as most, I've said it before, only 3 alliances (at most) per server complete that event
boreal canyon
Is there room in the top1-5?
Or better yet drop all your inactives and merge with another top 10 alliance full of inactives
open otter
Not as easy as you think, each server has its own culture and style
boreal canyon
People change their minds quick when they start winning events
open otter
We can definitely merge, since we've got room for 75 people, but no one is going to
Idc for rewards, I've been playing for over a year, and for over 1/2 of that time, I never got a single alliance event reward
boreal canyon
Never know until you try, we've had a rotating group of top alliances. Lots of moving around and building up
open otter
No, I can guarantee that no one will merge with us, as we are at war, been so for over 4 months
boreal canyon
Funny thing is we have zero of the whales on the sever too, just regular power people all bein active and having fun. Besting whale alliances cuz they don't have the active members
open otter
And you're server is definitely unique if you have power shifting so drastically
boreal canyon
Bummer
open otter
Top alliances tend to stay top forever unless something major event happens
winged axle
We're top 10, our server isn't as active as most, I've said it before, only 3 alliances (at most) per server complete that event
@open otter FAKE NEWS. All of the top 10 even top 15 finishes event in my server
open otter
Sorry, forgot to say on average, cause some servers are fully active
winged axle
With 40 actives-you can do it easily
With 30 actives-you can still do it but will have to grind
With 20 and below- grow your alliance,too weak for this event
open otter
Define "grind"
boreal canyon
We completed it in 1.5 days with 60ish people
winged axle
30Ć12kĆ3<- that is just from solo event for 3 days-> 1.08m points.
920k/30=30.5k points per player for 3 days-> that is 1k hostiles for 3 days
open otter
I just and did the math
winged axle
1k hostiles per 3 days is okay
open otter
No that is not OK
winged axle
You already kill 75-125 hostiles per day.That is 200 extra
boreal canyon
I gotta kill like 275 just for swarm Sunday
open otter
I've got to kill 75 for swarm Sunday @boreal canyon
open otter
More of, I have other things to do
winged axle
Then dont expect to get rewards and dont complain
winged axle
So what?
boreal canyon
All I was saying, that as an alliance of active, non crazy spenders, we hit all tiers very quickly
winged axle
500k points left which is 150 hostiles per day per player which you already kill when you do solo event and dailies
open otter
Yep, it's built for active alliances, which screws over smaller alliances
winged axle
So it is EASY
open otter
You're a bit off, 466. 6 per player for 3 days
boreal canyon
I don't understand why people stay in small alliances...so much free stuff just by playing with active big groups
winged axle
Really? 5 hostiles is a big difference?
open otter
I've already said before....war,lost a lot of good actives
Lol, i was just messing with you @winged axle
But for the majority of alliances out there, they will never be seeing rewards from this event
winged axle
If you have 20-29 actives then MERGE with others
open otter
Due to the majority being smaller sized alliances
winged axle
That is fake news
boreal canyon
That's what I suggested
winged axle
I just proved that event is possible with 30+ actives and you are still saying they wont get the rewards
open otter
That was the 40 player mark, not 30@winged axle
winged axle
30Ć12kĆ3<- that is just from solo event for 3 days-> 1.08m points.
920k/30=30.5k points per player for 3 days-> that is 1k hostiles for 3 days
It is POSSIBLE and doable
open otter
Lets do the 30 now, which, out of the top 25 on our server, I'd estimate the average amount of players who can get on every day per alliance is 30ish
Oh, we're also taking into account that they're using a 28 faction ship
winged axle
How hard is it to kill 150 more hostiles per day? For the rewards they are getting that is nothing
Yes because 99% of the ACTIVE players in the game is already lvl28+
open otter
If they don't have a faction ship, multiply the 150 by 30
winged axle
If you are below lvl28 and dont have a fac ship yet then you did something wrong which is YOUR fault
open otter
There's a major reason I like other mobile games that I play
I get what I put in compared to what I get out of it
1,080,000 for 30
For 30 actives, you'd need to grind 341 ships per day if you have a 28 faction ship
winged axle
And you already grind 150ish per day for dailies
Another 150 is EASY for the rewards you are getting
open otter
There's the problem, most people don't have enough time to log on daily and grind extra, some people don't have the time that you do bat
winged axle
Killing 150 ships is like 30mins work,1 hour at max
If you dont have time and dont want to kill some hostiles,then dont complain and dont expect the rewards.It is simple
boreal canyon
Straight off Google. Maybe it's an incentive to set aside your warring ways and come together for great rewards?
minor glen
I did my solo while at work. Using a T5 sally and PMC crew being hunted in aug space
boreal canyon
Personally I this events like these are the best, it's nice to have alliance based reward events instead of SLB
sharp token
well, my alliance completed all the milestones during borg arc 4, but we've yet to complete even the first milestone of CoW š„±
winged axle
Keep your server drama to your server discord please
tropic mantle
winged axle
If you want to pay for it,go ahead.That pack is designed for whales or people who want to help their alliance by spending $$ if they want to finish alliance event faster
If you dont want to help your alliance to finish faster by spending $$ then ignore the packš¤·āāļø
languid marlin
I like the rewards from CoW, don't like the hardship of motivating my alliance to do basic daily killing... might reach first milestone today.
Might.
winged axle
We are close to finish it
It is just 100-300 hostiles per day.if you can motivate your alliance to do that,it is pretty easy
wet vale
It's far easier for an active alliance to do it by having everyone complete the solo event, than a half active alliance having a few people grind kills though. Does feel a bit like the targets should be scaled towards your alliance size..
I mean fair enough you're stuffed if you've got a 73 man alliance with 10 active, but say some newbies have just started with a 60 man, they've got to try that much harder..
languid marlin
Yeah, we have 70 in our alliance, but really only like... 20 active. So, yeah...
gilded edge
then why do you keep those 50 ?
winged axle
30+ actives can do it,below that they need to improve their alliance
It is an event for strong alliances. If you cant finish it then you have problems in your alliance that needs to be fixed before the next CoW
vagrant topaz
Reach out to other admirals in your position and start talking mergers...it's the only way to grow and progress your alliance atm...server merges might help if your server is blessed with one (not a short term solution though)
tame flicker
LAT event I hit a ship with 151k overloaded but we both go points ? does this mean the attacker and the one being hit gain the same?
or there was an error
wet vale
They get +25 for mining it and 30 for losing it - so +25 for everything under their protected limit and -5 for everything above it. You'd have to talk to them on the maths of what was protected and what wasn't..
tame flicker
if they get 25 for mining but loose 30 then they would loose 5 * amount of hit, I should gain 30* amount of hit? so why would the scores be almost the same?
I get 4.5 mill they loose 750000
wet vale
Not discounting a scopely error, but you don't know if they mined something else at the same time, how many points they got due to protected cargo etc..
smoky void
Would like to see the Ship Upgrade Events rotate Materials gained through completing it. Only giving Ore doesnāt make sense, Uncommon G3 is the biggest bottleneck in this game.
shy grotto
āļø and they must be more than now
minor glen
No, Uncommon and rare 4* ship parts is the biggest bottleneck in the game
languid marlin
@vagrant topaz you might be surprised how many alliances are out there that don't want to merge... even though they know they are missing out.
@gilded edge we keep them because they are casual players. They need a home somewhere.
gilded edge
oh, so they are active
I thought you where talking about dead space wasters
which some let remain in their ally to look bigger
winged axle
I wouldn't say active
gilded edge
they at least move battie
winged axle
Active are the people who finish their solo events everyday
languid marlin
There are active players, and there are players that get on from time to time...
gilded edge
and don't look like a sloth in hibernation
open otter
The average player is the type were talking about, not the one batsie is referring to
blissful zealot
The new officer abilities seem to be quite bad.
The new Khan avatar looks... Constipated
ripe elm
@winged axle kinda hard to fix alliance numbers on a server of 100 total...
tame flicker
Stop with the donation missions they make any rewards = 0000
vagrant topaz
So, with the new Aug event being played up (unstarted at this time), I'm trying to figure out how my 2m mining rate and 3.7K nodes in Yarda, the largest in Aug space, taking 7 seconds to drain is... smart?
Not asking for a friend.
ionic briar
Seems to me like they want players to mine the data like hostile grinding.... I mean kill 25 hostiles, mine 25 mines... kinda the same I guess... And I actually like this more since it can be done much quicker than before
I can mine for one day's chests in less than 10 mins
Think of it in the long run
vagrant topaz
Players: "Change augment!"...also players:
ionic briar
If you are a hoarder and mine one day and use it for rest of the month... it seems like a bad update. But if you think of it as dailies and do it everyday, it is quite simple now
I love this change
I just hope the nodes wont be hogged
vagrant topaz
Me too...I can actually fit this into my routine without adding too much extra time
Before it was too much hassle...long warps and 12-15min per node...this I'm done in 15min including warps
Whiners gotta whine though...if they can't see the benefit that's great, 1 less node taken
analog spoke
Our nodes in yarda are 3700 now
plush hedge
Active mining is a better experience than AFK mining. Active mining and many more nodes should make a data mining event a LOT better
modern urchin
3 day data event!! f***ing madness
topaz thunder
Maybe, make the event missions different or lowered based on your level
ornate grail
keen trellis
10 seconds or less to clear Yarda nodes. Someone really didn't think that through
honest sand
Decoded data registering at 1 point and corrupted is 3 points as normal for data extraction decoded is usually 10 points is it not
upper orchid
@honest sand yes indeed a genius bar employee at scopely assumed the zero there didn't need to be in
orchid sail
Dear Scopely, who thought that refreshing a mine 217 times to complete an event was going to be fun? š
silver briar
Add a zero to all the nodes. This is dumb. Thanks
vernal isle
Nodes are constantly breaking in s27. After 2-3 empties nodes are consistently coming up as occupied by your ship or someone elseās, even though the node is empty.
quick moth
@developers Really... 25 decoded data on a corrupt data mine. 4 SECONDS for me to clear it. You guys need to rethink this.
lament pond
@young wasp I assume a scopely dev got to model a character after themselves.
young wasp
I just saw all three enhance abilities with hull breach but that's so lame
lament pond
āYou know how the morale works with the enterprise crew? Well hold my beer because I have the bad version of thatā
summer pebble
This is even worse than the last Borg event they need to look at the game... mining so you have to refresh every minute is stupid. The rewards are lame... there need to be more content , a trading and banking platform at a reasonable level not 50..
Get a grip.. I wonāt be participating
dense moon
It takes hours of hopping on and off data nodes to finish data mining event... do you not know we have lives?
upper orchid
Hey scopely who do I send my Dr bill for the carpal tunnel to?
obsidian jolt
How come we get 3 milestone event points for corrupted data, but only 1 point for decoded data? Shouldnāt this be the other way around?
winged axle
@obsidian jolt no actually
You mine decoded faster and nodes are bigger so you actually get more points per second/minute/hour compared to corrupted
tall hearth
data nodes are so small
obsidian jolt
Ahh, I see
whole notch
I'm missing the solo data event. Do we know what levels it is supposed to be for?
I'm levek 29
winged bison
Wow Scopely exceeded my expectations on creating the worst event to date. Please do exceed this with the next update.
lone dragon
Oh, ok so they want more money for a broken game. got it.
winged axle
Not really
lone dragon
ignore that
lone dragon
I just got it in my events. The game has been so glitchy that I have had to restart 6 times today.
I didn't even have the hostile hunt.
whole notch
<@&509691205798592532> can you ask what levels should have the data extraction solo event?
I'm level 29 and only have the alliance evwnt
Thanks
lone dragon
And the nodes in Yarda are really messed up, I zero, then try to refresh and It says I am still on the node. so I go to another node and it does the same so now I am on 2 nodes. then I go to a third and it says attack despite the fact that there is nobody there and when I get there, it just starts mining.
But I am also still on the first 2
winged axle
Yeah
whole notch
Thanks batman
vale shore
Active mining is an active failure.
wild nebula
this arc should be named "The return of premium reward pack" - spot on for 20Euros. However, 2000 latinum in the pack wouldn't go a miss ;-). The latinum not withstanding, well done for listening to players in respect to this.
vagrant topaz
This mining event is a disaster. I donāt know who thought having to refresh a mine every 15 seconds was a good idea.
As usual, not tested. Mines breaking and getting stuck constantly
wild nebula
Given I have provided something complementary - I now need to address a more pressing issue - Galaxy Research. This morning before this event started, I commenced Data Miner research. Given this research now appears to be defunct, I would like my 100 uc crystal back please as well as all materials, in the previous levels.
lone dragon
It is not defunct. still boosts your speed.
it's just a bit irrelevant since you have to be actively watching your miner all the time.
tropic musk
The new Augment nodes are ridiculous , I have to reset every 10 seconds, who the hell thought this was a good idea?!
lone dragon
Active mining.
The plus is that you can fill your BB in 10-20 mins depending on level.
karmic plinth
The data event, and to mine like this is an idiocy. Takes me less than 8 seconds to zero a Mine in yarda.
boreal canyon
I like the new setup for a daily quick fill up for your refine amount, but as an event it is tedious
orchid sail
it would be better if the mines had 5-10x the amount in them. refreshing every few seconds is very tedious
who thought it would be fun to refresh a mine 217 times to complete a mining event?!
modern monolith
Just tack a 0 back on the end..
resetting several hundred nodes every 7-10s, what could possibly go wrong?!
dreamy trail
First I want to say thx. This Event looks so far as good as the Borg 1-3 Arc.
Also the changes to the Augment Area (and some other 25k Node Areas like the crystal klingon) are really AWESOME.
Also for me the pricig of those packs. Sweet. The big one for the big fishs, the small one for us small fishs. Thx š
But pls change the amount of those datanodes just make it 37000 and all is good and I think this arc will monetize like hell.
ruby ivy
Please don't just think adding a zero to the nodes will make them all better, the lower ones that are just 10 will still be very very bad if put to 100.
languid marlin
<@&509690795536941056> I do not have the solo data milestone event. Please fix this.
minor oxide
Glitches are rampant. Iām on about 10 nodes with 1 BB.
So I canāt mine them.
All zeroed
outer hemlock
Crew Formula Probability
marla Rare (15%) * 1/6 3.00%
joachim Rare (15%) * 1/6 3.00%
navi Rare (15%) * 1/6 3.00%
pan Rare (15%) * 1/6 3.00%
rima Rare (15%) * 1/6 3.00%
khan Epic (5%) * 1 5%
kati Common (80%) * 1/6 13.33%
otto Common (80%) * 1/6 13.33%
joaquin Common (80%) * 1/6 13.33%
hi.mayflower Common (80%) * 1/6 13.33%
hi.legionary Common (80%) * 1/6 13.33%
hi.d3 Common (80%) * 1/6 13.33%
CAN YOU CHANGE WHO IS MAKING DECISIONS IN SCOPELY
wtf plz
what goes through your head
how can we piss off our customers more
for AUG chest.
i opened 5 chest got a SINGLE SHARD
<@&509690795536941056>
so if you buy a pack
you still only have 9% probability of getting a shard, but reality is murphy law likes us more in scopely math then normal RL math, so go figure. its like a lot less.
REWARDS ARE TERRIBLE.... common scopely did you not learn anything from all the community feedback?
wary geode
Really FUBAR data mining. 1st the nodes are so small it ridiculous. 2and Botney Bay's mining rate is so high, on the highest node I can reach it take 15 seconds to drain it. I'm having to sit there babysitting it and can't do anything else. And I was mining 1 node after about 20 times resetting it stopped allowing me to reset. Went another did the same. I got so irate I wanted to smash my phone. And New Augment missions, requirement lvl29, really WTF. So stupid. Just as you start getting glitches runned down, you messed it up again and throw a monkey wrench just for good measure! NOT happy.
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violet cobalt
little plover
<@&509690795536941056> what joke this event is.... Glitches every where. Ore nodes that are crystal nodes. Crystal nodes that are ore nodes. Ships stuck in a warp loop. 8 seconds to zero a node. YET ANOTHER CRAP EVENT
cobalt elm
The 8seconds to empty a node is intended tho
little plover
I don't have all day to click a button. Every 8 seconds
winged axle
You need to do it for 30-45mins and event is 3 days! So 10-15 mins per day that isnt hard
outer hemlock
9 chest open, only 1 shard.
I'd move from random to a weighted random towards mean for customers so they actually get to their appropriate distribution of probability
boreal canyon
People will kill 3000 bosses for a leaderboard but complain about resetting a node 100 times.
winged axle
Yeahš¤
boreal canyon
I didn't mind it so much as long as the nodes wouldn't glitch doin it. Still got it done in an hour
winged axle
Node bugging is due to lag probably.Servers arent use to this much node refreshing
Should be fine after event I think
languid marlin
Problem is that mining is not fun, and active mining is not much better.
Granted, increased mining rates and increased nodes is a huge plus
Just wish I could do the solo event
rose fiber
Rewards for extraction events are worthless once you max rep... and then you throw 7sec resets on top of it? No thanks.
2 years played and this is my first post.
winged axle
You cant do it because takes too much to mine or you dont see event? Because it isnt hard to finish since it is for 3 days @languid marlin
languid marlin
@winged axle solo event does not exist
winged axle
Ah same
languid marlin
I don't think that the old way of data mining was that bad... just could have used more nodes in deep areas. Now many data mining increase things feel like a waste. Emphasis on FEEL, not are.
winged axle
It does feel that way and I do think many complains because of that
If they do the math and tries it,I believe many wont complain that much. It is an okay change
tall grove
Itās not a good thing to refresh a miner every few seconds.
winged axle
But it is a good thing to be able to mine hundreds of thousands green data in a few mins
tall grove
How am I supposed to play any other aspect of the game (especially as laggy as it is) when I have to babysit my miner THE ENTIRE TIME.
winged axle
You can mine 73k decoded in 3 mins while it used to take a lot longer
You had the babysit your miner earlier as well
Because BBs went oc very fast
tall grove
I mine 1,000,000 decoded data/hr. The mine is 3700. That is 13 seconds.
There needs to be a better balance, this is ridiculous.
Not to mention the silly bounty hunter issue, which nonsensically gets worse as you progress with the augment faction.
tall grove
I do, and thatās fine, but now if I want to mine data, I am committing 2 ships and all of my time and effort to babysit the miner changing it over every 5-15 seconds. This isnāt making me like augment space.
languid marlin
I do not like the current miner babysitting, but better than before where you watch it mine for 20 minutes straight before refreshing it... fearing a hit from opc
tall grove
So @languid marlin, what you are saying is you prefer this annoying part of the game compared to the previous annoying part of the game?
Maybe fix it instead of make it annoying in a different fashion.
winged axle
You babysit your miner in any case so there isnt much difference other than you spend less time nowš¤·āāļø
3mins vs 10+ mins
languid marlin
Would prefer the current nodes to not be so small
tall grove
š¤·āāļø sums up the changes pretty well.
winged axle
Sure it isnt the best way to do it but it isnt the worst as well
It is an okay change
tall grove
No, itās a š© change on a š© problem.
But I do like the new options in the augment faction store. (Credit where credit due)
Someone made a suggestion elsewhere of adding micro bonuses to mining, having to click on something at a certain time to get the bonuses. If you wanted to make a reason to babysit miners, this sounds like a better idea. You could just park it and do your thing, or you could sit there and get the bonuses. Give players options to play how they want, please donāt force us to sit there and click something every few seconds.
old spire
Mining, even data, is not a rotate or click something every few seconds. Adding more nodes is good but this reset every few seconds prohibits any other play. FIX IT!!!!!!
acoustic lodge
Hey scopely, stop torturing players with events that are just god awful, thanks
buoyant bison
Doesnāt prohibit any other play. I managed 2 full 325k loads for myself whilst completing the free Aug mission and a ton of rom missions. It really wasnāt that hard
visual minnow
@prime gulch 15 second node resets is the worst idea ever. I hope that person gets fired
tall grove
Death by tribble. That seems a more appropriate punishment.
Maybe sent to Rura Penthe to mine.
tall grove
Ok, now I want a mission with a boss tribble in rura penthe....
broken escarp
Holy crap is this broken. I just reset a node and the game put me in combat with a guy on the other side of the system.
minor oxide
My finger tips hurt. I hate this
hearty stag
Lmao it would be an awful change even if the nodes worked.... as it stands with them breaking every 5 mins itās an absolute catastrophe
little plover
FIX THE AUGMENT NODES ITS STUPID
outer hemlock
why
they don't listen
it will be months
are they stupid or are we for playing and paying
hearty stag
I think we are when all they do is get it wrong... players are leaving my server in silly numbers now
toxic wraith
It's even sillier when you reset a node only to find your own ship sat there and can't use that node
So you go elsewhere. On different node only to be attacked back at node you left locked 30 mins ago
sharp token
@toxic wraith if you get a ghost ship, warp out, it will go away
toxic wraith
@sharp token if I warp out an back get bounty hunter nah just get another node
sharp token
just keep a warship in the system to destroy it?
toxic wraith
Nope fed up of 25 nodes so was doing circles, changed direction, was taking longer to reset the node than to mine it
21k target with 25 nodes is just awful
Yes granted only had to mine 7k corrupted but still
sharp token
well you can goto a higher level system, where the nodes are bigger
i do agree though, the corrupted node sizes did get shafted a bit too much
toxic wraith
If you can kill a 56k boss yellow with 3x 32k ships be my guest
Need antimatter and no the 276k boss yellow for other option is way worse
Have tried not got the crews yet
sharp token
it's possible if you have the right crew available but you likely don't at that level
but just fyi, 7k with 25 a node is not much different from what i had to do at lvl 36
i needed 800k at 3.7k per node
toxic wraith
So stuck with 25 nodes and for those not built their bb yet envoy lvl 7 takes 12m to mine a 25node so 31k is about 60hrs continuous clicking
21k points even
toxic wraith
Envoy 12 mins bb t2 is 10s
So yes bb does event in just over an hour
Envoy..... No chance
But I tiered my bb from 1 to 2 so was instant complete, then tested it.
sharp token
yeah ok, so you're not really at that much of a disadvantage to even my maxed BB
toxic wraith
T2 bb does 7136 corrupted an hour so.. Yes
sharp token
for me it takes 8 seconds to get 3.7kpts, but i need 800k pts
so it's still ~220 or so mine resets
toxic wraith
So it's same amount of refreshes
sharp token
you're still at a slight disadvantage as it's ~280 but yes, it's similar
toxic wraith
Thinks that's how they worked the node sizes
sharp token
imo, the node sizes need to be about 4-5x larger
then it's still "active mining" but don't need to be resetting absolutely constantly
toxic wraith
Double to treble fine... Ideal 5x
sharp token
same speed, just larger nodes
toxic wraith
Even 5x would be half original size
sharp token
sure, but they are much faster than before
toxic wraith
But it's harder to be opc now, and think what they did was remove ability to sit overnight. To complete event
sharp token
the idea was to make data mining something you had to be more active about, which i think is a good idea, it's just it's taken to the extreme to where you have to be focused entirely on it
i can't even answer a pm or do litterally anything else, or i'll zero out
toxic wraith
Yes 30s to 1ninute a node or max 5mins. Seems fair
sharp token
i think even 30s is fine, at least then you can switch to another ship, kill a couple hostiles, and then check on the miner, which is something i always used to do while data mining as it's really easy to go over cap
toxic wraith
Would reduce server loads, and probably less crashing
sharp token
just last night i was over 300k over cap before i warped out 
and believe me, you have to be "actively mining" to avoid getting hit when doing that
toxic wraith
At 1 8m an hour 35k protected 37k node your opc
And some people just stupid hitting for low opc
But they do
sharp token
well i think part of this change was meant to get more pvp targets
which again, i think is totally fine
toxic wraith
I agree with non bb mining data getting nerfed, as people wouldn't use the bb
sharp token
even though i think pvping for data is kinda dumb, i still like that it encourages people to go oc quicker for more pvp targets
toxic wraith
And now yes you can use non bb but it's not gonna be much use
sharp token
it also takes a lot less warp time once you unlock the shortcuts
toxic wraith
Think it's more related to non bb protected mining the node sizes
B4 corrupted data was 10k node so could do 8hrs on an envoy
sharp token
my only complaint about the changes is honestly just the node sizes are too small, instead of "active mining" it's "much too active mining"
toxic wraith
But at 25 it's 12mins
sharp token
i mean my BB used to do 350k per hour on the best decoded data node, i had no use for a non-BB lol
now it does 1.7M per hour
toxic wraith
In high pvp servers there's protected mining gets more than bb
sharp token
not when it's maxed 
i could get 50k in 8 mins, less than the travel time to get there
toxic wraith
Maxed bb is 35k with jaoquin and tpring
toxic wraith
Depends on officer lvls I guess
sharp token
yes
toxic wraith
Base max is 35k
toxic wraith
Nope think she maxes at is it 400 or 700 with badges?
sharp token
i get 41k with just joaquin
toxic wraith
Hmm jaoquin is 50% base
toxic wraith
Fair enough but if you have maxed bb you have t4 horizon
Or higher, so protected on that will be higher than bb
sharp token
it doesn't actually, my t7 horizon has just a tiny amount more than maxed BB
actually no
it's less
toxic wraith
So think it's more to stop overnight clogging of nodes and encourage active mining
sharp token
T7 horizon has 25k base, T9 BB has 29K
sharp token
like 400x slower than BB lol
toxic wraith
So bigger nodes your horizon could sit 8 hours to get protected cargo
sharp token
many servers will have people that kill any horizon on a data node anyways
sharp token
yes, anyone who has upraded their BB very far is not going to use an horizon on a data node
as you can spend 20 mins and get more than an entire day of horizon
now even more so
toxic wraith
So active mining lower nodes actually solves less data mind over long periods
Overnighter do thpugh
sharp token
i mean i don't think that was ever an issue to be honest
toxic wraith
No ones gonna hit for 0 gain
sharp token
you're wrong on that part lol
toxic wraith
Repair costs for 0 gain not worth it
sharp token
some people do it just for a laugh
and there is basically 0 repairs to attack a miner
i can take my sally, and go kill 100 miners, and still not need to repair
toxic wraith
Yes well they will kill active miners too just for a laugh
sharp token
but as i said, many servers have rules that you can't use anything but a BB on a data node, and will kill any other ship
sharp token
15k i think would be more reasonable
toxic wraith
Rest scaled
sharp token
ie, target 30 seconds for a maxed BB with tribble, joaquin and max research
toxic wraith
12.5k then
That's what 4hrs in non bb, but 25secs in maxed bb
Aim is to make it not worthwhile not using bb
And keeping those ns out of augment space
bold dune
Augment mining event with the new super tiny nodes is horrible and crazy tedious. 164 resets at 16sec a reset is the most tedious event yet....
toxic wraith
Yes but needs activity not login set node log out come back 4hrs later
bold dune
Either lower the point threshold or increase the node size please
I can kill 164 hostiles a lot faster
toxic wraith
Think 2.5x node size is fair
bold dune
I think bumping the eange to be 10-20k is perfect
toxic wraith
Yes that's what 8hrs sleep
bold dune
At 1-2mil 10-20k os gonna be fast and a lot less resets so less tedious but still cant afk mine
Anyone not useing a bb will get bumped trying to sleep mine
sharp token
yeah, i think 15k for the largest nodes is the right size, will be about 30 seconds in the fastest ship/crew
still very much active mining, but possible to multitask
@bold dune i had 220 resets at 7 seconds per reset š
toxic wraith
Anyway said my peace
sharp token
litterally can do nothing else at same time
toxic wraith
I did hostiles event as was for milestone solo event you have 3d to do
So did solo in quiet time, but with 3d even a t1 bb on lowest 25 node can do in 2hrs cumulative time
On more loaded server ie after merges will be harder getting a node
But yes 2 5 to 3x nodes should be sufficient for all servers and reduce loads and repetitiveness
bold dune
I am on a fairly active server but the tediousness of it is my issue. Nothing really for a mobile game should take way over 100 of the same actions for a single daily solo event.
toxic wraith
Lol well for those on blustacks which bot mine not gonna be a diffetence
bold dune
Well it encourgages that bs play when its super tedious
toxic wraith
They just write their pause in set it to go and off to do something ekse
But yes it's tedious to the extreme atm
100 resets over 3d is 33 a day,
270 resets over 3d is 90
So yes 90 resets a day is extrrne
unborn igloo
wow scopely, you did the most stupid thing ever! itās ridiculous to mine for 7-8 seconds, even without the occupied bug, completely unplayable. i need 400k points for the mining event, out of 3.7K mines! what are you thinking? and red data is 500 max,...500! this is completly crazy. i have other things to do in life than constantly refreshing mies! - due to occupation bug i can only refresh 1-10 times and have to recall then. a complete desaster! your customer support doesenāt even understand the major incident with the occupation bg, they replied to me that it is a new feature. lol. iāve never seen so much incompetence!
river merlin
its ok guys THEY aDDed BaTTle PaSs Yall should be praising them on the good things guys, give them $20, its ok about the changes stop telling everyone about obvious mess ups they always do , they will fix it next time, atleast they gave us new content, atleast you had a taste, whales carry the game, (i need another snake excuse) dm screenshots.
tough socket
This is feedback on the new data mining node values. This is not at all a fun game feature. It takes way too much active effort on the part of the player and is way too boring. This is not how mining has ever worked in this game, nor should it work like this. Second. This new slow rate of mining significantly reduces the pace of playing the Augment line of the game. Rather. It grinds it to a halt. This is not fun, I don't want to tap at a mining node for hours. Please rebalance this aspect of the event so that regular augment game play is not hindered. If not, then I won't buy any more event packs for the duration of this event, and I will demand a refund for those I have already bought. Please aim to make this a fun game. Not a mindless tap tap tap game. Thank you for your attention.
orchid sail
Anyone wake up this morning with soreness in your wrist? Seriously Scopely, this new game mechanic will induce repetitive strain injury.
surreal dagger
The new data nodes are a joke. What do you think? New ways to Yarda and new nodes are ok. But the size of the nodes is ridiculous. New officers are nice, but what about the previous ones? Maybe first finish Harrison, Darwin, Hadley, Herndorff, Leslie, Linkasa Severus, Zhou Qq'ug, Kuron, Tal, Jaylah. The same applies to the Borg officers. Finally end the one construction site, before you start a new one!
winged bison
I can't believe some of the defensive comments the mods are putting out. "It's the same thing, it's just faster". If I wanted to play a tap event I would be playing games like Badland. But even that was fun. This is an absolutely a disastrous concept. Did any of the Devs actually do a playthrough of the event for 3 days to decide if the game was fun the way it was designed? Some of us would like to play, enjoy and have time for other things as well. And the node block is a feature? You know I can go to a system, use up all the nodes if they were empty and leave them in a blocked state and not warp out of the system effectively rendering all nodes unusable for everyone else. The nodes free up when I warp out. This is worse than the previous data events with limited nodes. The only way I have noticed to release nodes blocked out by you is when u warp out, and if I don't everyone else is screwed and cannot mine.
modern urchin
I have managed to slow my rate to 20s per node in Yarda by not using Joaquim, totally crazy even keeping on top of messages in game and having to reset every minute due to ghost ships etc. There is literally no point doing the data mining research now as it makes the game more unplayable
obsidian field
While the rapid mining had some nice effects, e.g. it is now actually possible to finish the data mining event and most people don't sit on the mines with horizons etc.. However, with buggy mines, it is next to impossible to properly refresh fluently, which makes it even more tedious. So, your buggy game stands in the way of proper execution. Thus, please increase the size of the mines
fervent panther
I'm just wondering when I completed the autopilot mission the pathways didn't unlock. I tried resetting the game and it still didn't work.
thorny perch
It's just too much. As before with the Borgs, a lot of quests, tokens, messages and events are started at the same time, so that the user is really overtaxed and then realizes that he has to work hard to get through it all. Honestly: that stresses me and takes away the fun. It is too much. The game should be fun, but relax this confusing hustle and bustle, that you need 1000 tokens from A to have 1/3 of B, which you absolutely need to get XY, which is not possible anyway. Think one thing through from the beginning to the end and then do it like this. Instead, scopely starts 4 construction sites and leaves only half-finished stuff, which then doesn't work either. Not to mention the other bugs. In short: it's too much - too confusing -> no fun to play. No fun and stress means in this day and age for me that I'm thinking about doing this to myself even longer.
pale estuary
Suspect I'm in the minority, but I like the new data mining - aside from the demanding solo event, it means I can get a weeks worth of data mined in under 30 mins. My only annoyance is that my second BB is now pointless - there's no way I could mine data with two BBs at once - my fingers just don't move fast enough. And we can't scrap them either. Going to see if I can get a refund - it's not ok to change the mechanics of a game to render a purchase useless without compensation.
somber hinge
developer really need to sniff lsd combined with frog toxin and calthrops, to come on such stupid ideas with the data node. Since update is live, they for sure rolf all day long, since so many people still playing with this super mechanic
dense anchor
I will not sit here and tap the screen every 8 seconds to reset a mining node. I need 71,000 data every day to get aug credits and you expect me to mine that 3700 at a time? This may be the straw that breaks this camelās back and makes me leave the game, Scopely. This was colossally STUPID. I can usually divine what you were thinking with your choices, even if i disagree with them, but i cannot fathom what you were thinking here.
ionic briar
Can BB hit warp 40? Since the new way of mining data requires you to mine everyday... it means everytime you want to mine data you need to relocate
I guess most of the ships hit warp 40 except BB...
Can this be looked into? even with a max BB and scotty you can only reach warp 37
dense anchor
Why would you need to? The furthest data mining system doesnāt require warp 40 to reach.
ionic briar
Why would you need to? The furthest data mining system doesnāt require warp 40 to reach.
@dense anchor If you live in a system like Wolf, you cannot leave that system with BB
In a few days even my vidar can reach warp 40
I do my swarm dailies with my cent and sally
I can either mine with my faction miners or relocate everyday... which isnt really fun
dense anchor
So don't live there. That's a choice to base in a system that's too high to get your own ships out of.
wild nebula
No matter what Scopely does some will always criticise. They are damned if they do, damned if they don't. The person who states they need to mine 71K of data for augment credits - I have just mined 25K, which is 1/3 of your credits, in under 5 minutes. The reason I only mined that much was that it was under my PC limit. The longest part of the task - is the journey, because I also have miners out for G3 as well. So it takes me 10mins there, 10mins back. The only thing I wish scopely would do is make those nodes, a bit bigger to stop the constant resetting. Besides the bugs, I am relatively happy with what they have done. To the person living in Wolf system, what server you on, I would like to be your neighbour. I hope your shield management kung-fu is strong š
fervent oak
I am not a big fan of the new data mineingsystem for one thing it defeats the whole purpose ofthe botany bay it was designed to mine datd quickly
whole notch
<@&509691205798592532>
Is there any word on the missing data solo event?
I know there was an announcement that its being looked into, but seems unfair that I'll be missing out on the rewards?
valid phoenix
no info atm
whole notch
Thanks. So the solo isn't a daily reset?
dry prism
Who do I talk to about a missing mining ship that went missing at the start of the event? It wasn't even mining data nodes.
winged axle
@whole notch nope. 3 day event
whole notch
Thank you š
hidden smelt
Itās too much to do and too complicated to figure out. Mining data is a joke.
languid marlin
Mining data is not complicated... it is less complicated than ever before. Just.... less fun than before. At least now if you are <30, you do not need scotty to get to yarda.
main hawk
I love the new mining rates! At first, it was annoying, to see the nodes so small, but I was able to mine 390k coded data in just 21 mins... Pretty cool, I would say... And enough nodes in Yarda gives a chance to everyone to mine! Thank you so much!
tough jewel
Alliance mate just bought the $49.99 BB pack for BPs. Built it to tier up for event... it came out of drydock Tier 8... this wasnāt explained on the pack, never heard of a ship being fully tiered when built up either.
vagrant topaz
Umm...what?
Is he certain he isn't looking at his original bb? Tell him to scroll further right or sort by survey
languid marlin
<@&509691205798592532> any update on solo data event? 1 day down, still no solo data event.
languid marlin
So, if they do not fix it before too long, will there be compensation for those of us that could not do it?
Either
I do not have any solo data events
raven stratus
Ahh. Ok. Send a ticket to support if you havent so they have a record. But the Devs are aware. Thats all we know.
languid marlin
Yeah, I have. Was just hoping for any updates.
shrewd sapphire
Why is a level 14 getting uncommon 3g rewards from battle pack in Outlaws, when a level 18 on same server is getting 2g?
And why does customer service think rebooting will fix this, or thank me for supporting Scrabble?
turbid badge
@prime gulch shouldnāt this have reset for today as well?
winged axle
@turbid badge no it is 3 day event
turbid badge
So no daily resets? @winged axle
winged axle
Nope
turbid badge
Okay just checking
tough jewel
Umm...what?
@vagrant topaz yeah itās the new one. He had 1 T8 BB all tiles upgraded. Second he bought is T8 no tiles upgraded. Hehe
open otter
That way people don't need to spend forever just watching a bb reset for fing ever
bold dune
What are the odds on the new augment recruit chests? I noticed it is missing the āiā button that usually tells you
thick cypress
So I'm doing the data event I get past the first level and I'm Mining and I'm mining so I check to see if I met level two in the mining event and it says all Milestones complete it says I completed the event but then when I check my RSS it doesn't show the rewards bunkš„
warm thicket
please change back to the old data mining. this sux so bad., i dont want to spend 6 hours mining for an event ( alliance) byt clicking once every 8 seconds. i cant multitask and kill other ships with the constant switching.
distant gate
Why is there no way to get more Botany Bay blueprints - it is irresponsible to start an event about augments and leave so many players stranded
simple hazel
What level are you McJaggernait?
distant gate
22- Iām stuck at 42 blueprints with no way to get more
winged axle
@distant gate It might be a bug,you used to be able to get all bps for free for your first BB. Already reported to Devs
simple hazel
Check the augment faction store.
distant gate
I have- nothing
simple hazel
Weird. Thatās where I got mine.
simple hazel
Hopefully.
royal hornet
@prime gulch love the new nodes in Augment. ABSOLUTELY HATE the micro-zised nodes.
Whoever though it would be a great idea to force players into renewing a node every 10 seconds is an IDIOT
royal hornet
Is making players go postal @prime gulch
Then there's the bugs. If say "what bugs?! There's no bugs!" I'll "hang you on the nearest pole" (figure of speach. Never literally).
Go out there and just play the game. EVERY Augment node bugs out.
livid topaz
Why are the data nodes so small? This is insane
royal hornet
See! everyone is going postal over the augment nano-nodes
vagrant topaz
I like it
5mins actively mining gets enough for a days worth of credit conversion....1hr and you're set for over a week....it's a comparatively small diversion from your regular gameplay, especially with the warp shortcuts. Data event is 3days long with an 804k top milestone (at lvl38) that's around 15mins a day (plus warp times). I'm failing to see a downside tbh
Everyone was screaming for augment to be changed and made viable, as soon as that happens everyone losses their collective š©
š stfc players
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz the downside is for people who can only mine Corrupted data, they are stuck woth nodes that have 10 or 25 capacity... Getting to top milestones is almost ludicrous...
As for others, I actually like it
I already had to watch my BB constantly, so this change is just a speed up
They've had almost a year to get their bb up to spec (new players are f-ed but what's new)
I'm mostly talking about new players, yes...
winged axle
@vagrant topaz there are corrupted nodes with 500 capacity š
vagrant topaz
Honestly it seems like players want change to certain areas of the game but then automatically dislike the changes simply because it now requires them to also change their gameplay....you can't have it both ways
Adapt or die
winged axle
It is an okay change,not the best not the worst. But I agree that complaining about it from community has been a bit too much. They didnt even complain about Mega cubes this long
vagrant topaz
@winged axle I know, but some players are too low lvl to go there, or do the missions to unlock those areas
winged axle
Building BB unlocks all of the Augment space at least it should
And warp requirement for that 500 corrupted nodes is w25
ionic briar
Any idea about why that borg tab was added to the store?š
I mean borg event is over yet that tab never saw the light of the dayš
vagrant topaz
@ionic briar nope
ionic briar
Haha
vagrant topaz
@winged axle building BB unlocks forst system. After that you do missions to unlock further
tame flicker
why is their no daily aug mining event ?? just a 3 day alliance event boring
vagrant topaz
You hate us? I don't want to have more daily chores.. š¤£š¤£š¤£
wild nebula
Will scopely fix these data nodes? This is beyond a joke. You have had more than sufficient time, and still there is no fix. It affects game enjoyment. I also believe it is now affecting G3 nodes. Fix the nodes issue, as a matter of priority.
forest spear
Ok... the AI is making me look stupid and weak in the storyline. I side with Mudd over Khan? Are you serious?
I don't get the option to throw Mudd into a volcano?
Come on... branching storylines should be easy - games have been doing it for more than 20 years.
I attacked the Federation and sided with the Romulans/Klingons because I was sick of the Federation whining and begging for help all the time because they failed to prepare adequately.
And now, through events, you are making me act like the Federation that I despise so much.
Do you have ANY diversity of thought over there? It sure doesn't look like it...
If my computer acted like the in game AI, I would reformat the hard drive.
old quarry
Why are you expecting a Mass Effect style branching storyline from a mobile game mostly focused around combat and mining? The story has always been on rails, faction choices only influence rewards, not the universe at large.
acoustic stag
cool idea having an event to hunt the hunters during a mining event. shows some cohesive thinking.
pure hamlet
@vagrant topaz there are corrupted nodes with 500 capacity š
@winged axle If you can reach them.
It is an okay change,not the best not the worst. But I agree that complaining about it from community has been a bit too much. They didnt even complain about Mega cubes this long
@winged axle If something is getting a lot of complaints then maybe that something needs fixed.
pure hamlet
Iām responding to you and quoting you. The tag is automatic when quoting. Thatās how discord works. š¤·š»āāļø
acoustic stag
Iām responding to you and quoting you. The tag is automatic when quoting. Thatās how discord works. š¤·š»āāļø
I deleted the tag, that's how discord works.
winged axle
Yep. Up to you to tag or not
lavish patrol
We did complain even more about mega cubes and for longer time... mega cubes was way worse. This update is okish for people with low/middle rep with augment. Those with higher rep Yardaās nodes are insufficient. Yarda needs to be warp range restricted so high tiered BB at least should have access to higher nodes (they needed way more uncommon platinum and rare, so they have higher rep)
Current size of Yardaās nodes are okay for lvl 27-30 decoded systems
winged axle
@lavish patrol I agree this update is okayish. But people complaining for same reasons over 2 days makes it look like the worst update. If I remember right during Mega cubes it was a few hours per day because it was soooooo boring that no one even wanted to come and complain in discord. But it wasnt like this endless complaints all day long. At least that is what I remember
pure hamlet
Fix one thing and the update is one of the better ones.
Watch and rewatch till you get it, or maybe step away and let others moderate since you donāt care for the feedback.
I deleted the tag, that's how discord works.
@acoustic stag My fingers hurt from button mashing, so tags stay.
languid marlin
Soo... final day of solo data event and I still do not have it. Will there be compensation?
winged axle
@languid marlin if we have any information about it will be in announcements channels
Sadly there is no new info for now
languid marlin
Figured...
But, also figured, nothing said, nothing gained... so, say something, something MIGHT happen..
tame flicker
great rewards except you have to donate most of what you get back - yeah
wise dew
Is anyone having issues opening the Event store?
forest spear
@old quarry Because it would be easy to do? Because it makes sense given that we are able to pick different factions with COMPLETELY different philosophies and ideals.
If I wanted to be weak, whiny and gullible, I'd have picked the feds.
Shove Mudd and the Romulan Augments out of an air lock at the nearest star and be done with it. If the Romulans want the ashes they are welcome to try to find them.
If everybody is going to ignore Khan anyway, why is he even in this mission?
Am I the only one who noticed just how ruthless Khan is? Mudd crossed the line several times - he should be dead.
Heck, I would have tossed Mudd out of the nearest airlock - Khan would have done far worse.
old quarry
Easy to do my bottom. This is not Mass Effect. What you suggest would make an interesting game, true. I'd probably even buy it. However, it would also be a AAA single player PC/console game, not STFC. Probably cost as much as Scopely's packs though..
forest spear
It would not! I would presume that whatever language this thing is coded in still contains if statements. Branching decision trees are simple.
Besides, you wouldn't even need to do that. Just ask at the beginning which faction you favor most and that is the story you tell. They have created exactly such a branch point many times in the past in this game.
They took the time to make a mess of Augment space, the least they could do is give us a decent story for our troubles.
I don't even get the option to help Khan kill Mudd... What kind of nonsense is that?
old quarry
You're forgetting that everyone else sees the same universe as you, and they would make different decisions. Scopely aren't Blizzard, with the resources for everyone to be in different phases.
At the end of the day this is a mobile game made in Unity, like one of many hundreds or even thousands of others. If you think it's so easy, please, I'd love to see what you come up with, genuinely. A good Trek competitor to both STFC and STT would be nice to see.
forest spear
If I had the base game to this, I wouldn't be making a Star Trek game - it would be Star Wars Legends... There is a mountain of money to be mined there if Disney would allow it.
This game is, after all, a Star Wars game at it's core.
Everyone should have at least watched Star Trek - and in this case, just watched the second Kelvin movie. They explicitly tell you what Khan is like and how he makes decisions.
dire pine
@old quarry I'll take a stab at an idea....
-Keep the 3 base factions... k, f, r + indy
-Player makes a choice... choose a faction
-Once you have chosen a faction, all of your future officers, beyond your Indy starting crew, come from the faction you choose
-all your ships come from your faction of choice
-It's possible to enter opposing faction space, but you are immediatley set upon by NPCs and players
-Indy space is no man's land, but there is a "King of the Hill" reward for dominating it
-players that have not chosen a faction yet are not attackable by factioned players, adn vice versa
-klingon would have + to strength in ships, and reduced speed
-Rom would have greater speed, but reduced str
-fed is the default ... no bonuses or penalities
regal yarrow
What happens to the new players who are missing bps for the bb and are no longer in faction store and has done all missions to get the 30 from missions
winged axle
@regal yarrow contact support
regal yarrow
I have already
winged axle
Then some patience pleaseš
regal yarrow
Its for the hubby lol I have mine
winged axle
Will be fixed shortly but can take time for CS to reply due to Covid and other reasons
languid marlin
They seem slower than covid normal since the update went live...
winged axle
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regal yarrow
yes hoping he will be able to get before first event is over
winged axle
Probably too many tickets because of new issues
Luckily data mining event isnt related to battle pass
regal yarrow
true
fickle turtle
Outlaws missions rewarded in BattlePass should be able to be archived.
halcyon dirge
Can anyone tell me why the
Screen changed overnight
Will take forever to get points now
sharp token
they are 2 different events
halcyon dirge
Yes but I don't have hostile hunt any more
toxic wraith
Yesterday was day 2, this is day 3
halcyon dirge
Oh ok that's pretty shite
sharp token
it's no different than litterally every other day in the game's history
also, it's only 80 lvl 32 hostiles
halcyon dirge
Yeah lvl 32
toxic wraith
Or 1600 lvl 28 your choice
halcyon dirge
A bit out of reach can do a couple before I have to repair
sharp token
then either your ships are below what they should be for your level, or you're using the wrong crew
toxic wraith
Probably both
sharp token
what level are you and what's your most powerful ship?
toxic wraith
Am guessing he's lvl 30
halcyon dirge
Lvl 29 316k
toxic wraith
Event is usually 2 down 2 up
sharp token
then yes, your ships are quite a bit behind where they need to be, but that's also not too weak to kill lvl 32s
toxic wraith
That's low power for lvl 29
sharp token
you really should stop leveling up until you get your ships in better shape
but that being said, what crew are you using on your ship to kill hostiles?
and what ship is it?
halcyon dirge
Yeah station got hit and am still recovering
sharp token
you can honestly, even with that weak ship, kill lots of lvl 32 hostiles easily
you just need the right crew, and to attack the right hostiles
do you have Pike?
halcyon dirge
No yey
sharp token
not if you get a lucky pull
@halcyon dirge ok, then use Cadet Uhura (as captain), with Cadet McCoy, and Chen, and attack only explorers and traders
those are your most important officers for a very long time, even though they are common and uncommon
halcyon dirge
Ok thanks for all your insight guys I'll have a go at that. Have a great day.
toxic wraith
U2
halcyon dirge
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mild glacier
Here's an idea: when you make a mission requiring killing of hostiles of a certain level with the intent that the hostiles are in the same system, make it require the LOWEST level hostile in that system.
when you require the same level hostile as the system level the result is always that within minutes the only hostiles remaining in the system are the lowest level ones that can spawn there and then virtually no one ever touches them.
Either do this with missions, or makes hostiles despawn after a few minutes like scouts do so that system hostiles will eventually refresh to their proper level ranges.
toxic wraith
Nope just kill the low ones then the high ones spawn.
feral creek
Dese Scopely i appreciate the fact the you added the hijacked blueprints into the augment store but are you kidding me with the 1 bp per day? 80 freaking days!!!!!!! Wtf. Should make it so we can get 10 at a time if ur gonna make us wait a whole day to get more... kinda like idl all the other faction stores!!!!Ā¹
whole notch
The worst was one of the borg missions, that sent you to a level 25 borg system, so you had to use a token. Then got you to kill level 27s (which you had to find in a different system). Then sent you back to the 1st system again
languid marlin
Solo data event is over and no compensation for those of is that were not able to participate? Kinda really not cool.
obtuse wraith
What a joke!!! This is a LAZZY CUT AND PASTE FAILURE !!!
The maximum hostiles in Augment space can be 37s in Yarda.
wet vale
It's also utterly pointless offering station leaderboards with lvls29-41 in the same band. Top player is getting 1.1m per defense platform, and anyone that didn't see him score early has wasted their high point upgrades.
obtuse wraith
Oh and as lvl 41 player my top tier solo target is 691k... top 2 hostiles are are 890 and 1440 points each, thats 750-700 hostiles to kill just to complete the solo event.
vivid cove
Seriously, someone should be fact checking these events.
shy grotto
the new warp routes trough augment space don't work
shrewd sapphire
Still no corretion on level disproportionate prizes in Outlaws / battle pass. CustServ said expect it today, then closed ticket. Anyn eta? Would like to collect rewards and start doing things before weekend ends.
shy grotto
@obtuse wraith no. lvl 38
obtuse wraith
@shy grotto
Funny enough, this is the fix. 38s were not expected. šš
Point of needing a madness number of kills still applies.
crimson edge
Dear Scopely..... Are you kidding me? 7.66M points @ 1440 each = 5139 level 37 hostiles since nothing else exists? Ya...... even with 5 ships that is impossible to do.
Anyone in Deep Space find a hostile that counts yet? We havenāt......
fading basin
Hi, I have a event at level 18 (recruit harry mudd- a 2 day event ) which requires me to spend G3 + G4 uncommon and rare. At this level I can't refine G3 to get any uncommon or rare and I don't have any ships or upgrades that require me to spend G3 and G4 so it does appear to be incorrectly set, - I can't score a single point in it which is disappointing .
languid marlin
@fading basin that is par for the course for scopely..
mild glacier
Scopely has failed at an event release once again. There is a HUGE problem with solo leaderboards that has continually been failed to be addressed. New content officers should be solo milestone NOT solo leaderboard. We all need a change to get these things, not just the top 3 whales on the server.
How are we supposed to beta test new content for you guys if we never get access to it?
shy grotto
@obtuse wraith look lvl 38 bounty hunter
pastel bear
Yeah your augment hostile is boring. Never will finish it cause points are to low for hostiles. I got 2nd tier done. Last are impossible. I am level 37
sharp token
impossible at 37? i mean i completed it no problem at 37
4th tier is only double the 2nd tier
pastel bear
Well when have the whale alliance occupying the only system to get it done . Yes it is impossible
And when u go into that system they blow up your ship to
sharp token
the only system?
what system is that?
yarda? because i didn't use yarda
i mean the whole thing obviously sucks, but it's certainly not impossible unless your lvl 40+ where the milestones go up like 10x
toxic wraith
Solo leader board lvls 20 to 23
Reward for 11 to 25 53x 3* crystal
4 to 10 mix of 2* and 3*
Posted in bugs 2, as looks like display bug
winged axle
@toxic wraith what is the lowest lvl player in your bracket?
toxic wraith
21 I think
Might be 20 but highest is 23
But sure that's display bug on the 11 to 25 rewards showing 40 3* when every reward tier above has 2* reward first
open otter
Don't report that, then you'll get 2* instead of more 3* @toxic wraith
orchid sail
Almost everyone in our alliance isnt bothering with the Augment Hostile event. 480 kills to complete and that has to be lvl 37s so everyone is in Yarda. Poorly designed event, no thought given to it at all. Do better, Scopely.
For comparison: a faction hunt is 1220/20 = 61 kills per faction, so 183 kills total. Hostiles spread out across the whole galaxy. This event is utter madness. We have better things to do with our lives.
strange patio
To whoever thought up the Augment Hostile Event, it is a complete failure as the top hostile level is a 37 giving 1440 and that is only in one system,Yarda.I spent close to an hour and dudn;t even reach half of the 1st tier due to all other players there fighting to get the hostiles. Somebody needs to check these events before releasing to the community.
Otherwise, the other events associated with this arc have been attainable. Not this one, just absolute trash!
wild nebula
Are scopely getting high on their own supply? 100K, really?
viscid phoenix
Scopely remain deluded that avatars and frames are something that players value.
obtuse wraith
I value them when they are an achievement badge for a hard PLAYING event/arch (like the 3-month borg or alliance milestone), however they are not valued when its for a ālets see how much you can spend/PAYā event. That one is a perseverance badge, 100k with 7k per day is two weeks of saving. But since Surely you need the stuff fore something else though, like officer chests. It really looks like a pay event win. š
shy grotto
lvl 50 augment ???
torn gyro
Where did the box of officers' hiring for gold trophies go?? It said it would be available for another 24 hours!!! And it's gone.
sharp token
@torn gyro it definitely didn't show 24 hours remaining for me, it was set to go away with the daily event reset
vagrant topaz
Level 17, max explorer strength is around 30k with prime shields and decent officers for the level. Gotta kill 105 54k hostiles(lvl 18 swarm) Pay to Participate is bullshit scopely. At my level, this hostile makes no sense. Even level 17s, you can only kill 4-5 per ship so it would require 20-25 repair cycles. Can't even kill a lvl 18. Give your head a shake.
orchid sail
Scopely, thanks for listening re augment hostiles event šš»
languid marlin
Still no word for those of us that got no solo data event....
sharp token
@languid marlin it's also, still, the weekend
i would hope we hear something about it tomorrow though
shy grotto
i still waiting for repartion of the bs borg arc4
languid marlin
@sharp token mostly just keeping up a gentle poke...
languid marlin
Got an "update" from CS this morning about the solo data event. Asked me what tier my botany bay was...
wet vale
Lvl32 swarm space is getting ridiculously busy. Add another few, maybe replace the bore-gmada systems?
lavish patrol
@vagrant topaz swarms become literally impossible between certain levels without a Franklin. At L22 you get the Vahklas which does ok against them
vagrant topaz
@lavish patrol sounds like a game flaw then if in supposed to do that event
ionic briar
Seriously, why is it that always, and I mean every single time, the game starts lagging and crashes when you go to a system where you are not welcome and being chased by a G4 attack ship that cannot be defeated? I mean I have always noticed this and every time it crashes. And given how bugged n slow the loading is, even though I have a pretty good connection. Every time the ship gets destroyed and you have to spend hours worth of speed ups.
Is it because the G4 ships are not saved in game files till we reach ops 39?
And that makes it such that your phone is parallely downloading it and causes some issue?
Just a theory
But PLEASE, fix it!
If I go to a lv 35+ system, it just becomes glitchy when the G4 ship appears
the G4 attacker
I am currently in bad terms with kling and every time i go into the system, i might kill 4-5 hostiles before it crashes
and by the time the game loads again, my ship has already been attaclked!
FIX THIS!
midnight knoll
Could anyone in scopely explain to me why on earth the Mudd leaderboard distributes rewards from 1-25 under level 39 and know our leaderboard only 1-5 get rewards???
During borg events we were equally treated, now we are not.
Is it only because we are high level players that we can keep on paying?
Please explain to me justice in this???
past fossil
@midnight knoll This is likely due to population, you realise the amount of players in the 30-39 bracket is much more highly populated across all servers than 39+ ?
languid marlin
Better late than never, but was just compensated by CS for missing the solo data milestone event. If you missed out as well, try submitting a ticket.
winged axle
I am still waiting š
wild nebula
I do not understand why, if scopely has identified an issue with an event, they do not compensate all players affected. Surely they must be able to perform a data mining task to understand the scope of users affected?
winged axle
Why compensate everyone when only a few hundred or dozen is affected?
If they do that then those who missed Data mining event deserves 2x compensation because people who finished event will get event rewards+ compensation while people who missed event will only get compensation
wild nebula
As I said, "compensate all players affected". I did not say "compensate everyone"
midnight knoll
@past fossil population is an argument, fine... Explain me one thing please, that was truly an issue in the beginning, now that our population is increasing it gets modified without explanation? That is not right.
This wasn't an issue in the two previous events, so why now?
Sorry your explanation lacks some logic.
I would get it that in our group it is on ly the first 10 and not 25 like in the other groups. But 5? It is just more obviously an auction.
Dividing the groups was made to protect lower lvl p layers, make rewards accessible to them. And it was a great move from scopely.
But now? It is a joke. Look at what those players ops 40+ think about it...
past fossil
Iām only giving you suggestion on why a change was made, I canāt say itās a good move or their thought process behind it
Maybe on average among all servers there is on average only 10 people or so above 40+ and itās why itās 5 but that then is bad for the high whale servers they have maybe 20+ players above 40
I cannot say without knowing statistics but itās a guess
midnight knoll
All fine, but on our server we are above 20 now... People would accept some changes easier if properly communicated.
I mistrust scopely at this point. It is sad because basically this game is fine.
past fossil
Bold statement that the game is fine š for me itās got lot of work to do still
midnight knoll
I said basically...
sure there is work to do, but if if people didn't like it, then they are either terribly bored, masochistic or not clever.... I choose to believe that it is basically fine...
lavish patrol
@vagrant topaz swarms were specifically designed to be killed by a Franklin. Theyāre like Borg probes. Even level +30 uses Franklin against high level swarms as is the best suited ship. Swarms arenāt a fundamental part of the game, like mining latinium or data, or killing Borg probes, and theoretically adds to a more ādiverse experienceā. As I said, a strong Vahklas, then Mayflower, Saladin and Centurion can complete the heroic swarm event, but if you want to comfortably do your swarm dailies, you need the specific ship.
lavish patrol
I just realised that they made Heroic to give battle points, thatās a huge disadvantage for those who donāt have Franklin, I strongly agree.
And augment hostile hunts wasnāt an option for Battle points as high levels canāt finish it
Bad day for events š
open otter
Or you can upgrade your regular ships to a preper level
I can do swarm heroic without a Franklin
lavish patrol
Before you get Vahklas, there was a level window where there was literally no ship capable of killing the swarms. I know because my maxed Turas couldnāt kill even the 2nd difficulty level of daily swarms. That was before ships and bases got a massive upgrade, though. if that lvl 17 says heās literally incapable of completing the swarm event, I would believe it
Remember thatās the same devs who created an augment hostile event thatās impossible for high level players
open otter
And they fixed that
lavish patrol
You donāt need to kill 5k hostiles now?
open otter
Yeah
lavish patrol
Impressive, when itās high level who complains, they quickly fix the problem š
unkempt prawn
Right, because you can level past other "issues".
languid marlin
@past fossil fyi, we probably have at least 25 players that are 40 or higher on server 18...
winged axle
Oh Nowon's server š
past fossil
It is still not many - when you consider servers have hundreds between 20-39 per server competing for 25 places š
winged axle
We have around 35-40ish lvl40+
languid marlin
Lol. 25 places. Haha. Good joke. Leaderboards for 28+ are 10 slots. And against those level 40+
winged axle
He was talking about Mudd auction not the regular leaderboard events
languid marlin
Ah. Still.... 25 slots for a pretty big range. Still not remotely fair for us lower level players.
winged axle
Yep
I would prefer 25 for lvl40+ and 100 places for lvl1-39 but that depends on your server. There are some with only like 70 actives
languid marlin
I personally think all leaderboards should be limited to a 2 level range. 26-27, 28-29, etc...
You are the only player in the 46-47 range? Great! Incentive to get there before others.
midnight knoll
I can tell you that even for me, I am lvl 41, it is hard to compete with a lvl 45 player... And miss can be as nice as they want, I would need to put in 3-4m points to be sure to be top5 which I won't do.
The power jump at this level as the cost in mats is enormous above 40
A shipyard upgrade from 40 to 41 is 20k unc crys, higher ops levels is worse. So a range of one or two above and underneath is realistic
For lvl 42 players having an unc g4 ship one upgrade is worth way more than my jelly... It's like comparing upgrading a mayflower and an Enterprise
prisma crane
@prime gulch I donāt see solo Augment rewards. Glitch?
Nevermind. 13 minute delay. I just got them.
sacred kindle
Hello. A suggestion. Please think a little more for all of us that are below Lvl 25. I am 19, and have missed quite a few events. I even have my mission log full of events I cannot participate into.
Feedback: It is a great game... congratulations!!! And thank you!!
dense trench
Hola, ninguna recompensa de los eventos se me estƔn registrando.
En el evento Forragidos secciĆ³n (gratis) alcanza el 3er. Nivel. No me estĆ” acumulando los puntos para los Hitos
pearl stream
Again another event that is weighted towards higher level players with stronger ships meaning lower level players missing out. What is the point, if you're going to continue this way. The current swarm event has a ridiculous point scoring system, MAKE IT ENJOYABLE and REALISTIC for once
wild nebula
Its not weighted towards players at a higher level. Its weighted towards those, that make good resource management decisions. Not building ops till you can comfortably do all dailies. I am deliberately holding on upgrading my operations, till my ship I use for swarms will cope with the increase. People need to stop blaming scopely for EVERYTHING (although some criticism is deserving) and look at the choices they are making in the game.
languid marlin
@wild nebula to some extent, it is weighted towards higher players though... at least in the rewards. You start getting officer shards at ops 28 from swarm sunday... That can make a huge difference.
Granted, a lot of this game is about patience and resource management, but it is undeniable that the higher level player you are, the better rewards you get from events.
Which is mostly fair.
wild nebula
I think Domination is good - allows players to store up upgrades etc - is a good task. Having solo leaderboards for this is great. However, having it as an "event" as part of the battle pass, is not really a great. I think it shows a lack of imagination on behalf of the game designers, that they cannot come up with something to actually integrate the outlaws story line. It was the same Borg arcs - I do strongly suggest Scopely think about events a little more. Your taking players money, and the appearance by many is that you are doing as little work as possible in producing something that is actually engaging which should be reflecting the "outlaws" theme. In otherwords stop rehashing old material.
lavish patrol
Please give normal tritanium too as Domination award, besides tritanium tokens, as it was one of the few things that resurrected raiding after months of dry spell
wild nebula
I think for doing solo milestones or dailies - "loose" resource is fine. When you win a competition, or buy a pack - tokens are better. Some will no doubt disagree. But i think those that do disagree - are probably the ones with poor shield management š
lavish patrol
@wild nebula you can have both obviously: loose trit and tokens, but they dropped the amount of trit because they gave battle points that help you uncover another milestone that also gives you more trit. Thatās why the current domination was nerfed. They failed to realise that Domination feeds tritanium to almost all middle levels and they become a raiding target again...
Thatās why Iām trying to make them notice that loose trit resurrects raiding and PvP, so theyāll be more prone to include loose trit too as a reward
winged axle
@dim rune @languid marlin @minor glen this place is for event feedback,not for RoE discussion š
tame flicker
500 armada to complete the daily what are these guys smoking - and data mining
wintry schooner
yeah can I have some? It seems to make the world appear more fun.....
tame flicker
lets hope they spawn fast enough
formal musk
Pleas fix this datamines every 12s frefresh its bullshitš¤®
plush hedge
Trying to jump on an armada spawn is worse than trying to jump on a hostile spawn.
... because at least hostiles do spawn every now and then ...
wintry schooner
but seriously........being able to trade 450 uncommon armada tokens for 5 rare is a really good idea twice in 24 hours, and 6000 rare armada tokens to get some klingon avatars is genius. Probably going to be really popular when all i've got to spend them on otherwise is a chance to get some uncommon materials to upgrade my ships to try and do something against the pay wall......Please for the next Arc/event whatever you want to call it, can we please have something fun and inclusive that doesn't require a mortgage payment?
wild nebula
I honestly do not believe those at Scopely know what they doing. Seriously, I would take a long hard look at yourselves.
quick needle
Armada event with no armadas spawning, this is a total waste
Thereās not even anything there to spend the directives on
Congratulations on an impossible event
wild nebula
I could solo some of the armadas I am starting - they are that low. The returns will not justify the directives. Scopely staff, stop sniffing the office glue
wintry schooner
only way to do this is to have as many in your party as possible to get the 20 points for the win guys. If you solo these little ones, no one is going to get anywhere lmao. I did a poo this morning that that was more fun.
tame flicker
you get 60 rare directives but need 200 to launch 1 lol
wild nebula
@tame flicker of course. Its a blatent cash grab - give them 60 to run a rare but for the other 140 directives please give us your $20 and then you can run one.
steep jolt
I would like to thank Scopley for messing up yet another part of the game...data node amount...my god man this is friggin tedious now...smh. Supposed to be improving the game not make it worse
vagrant topaz
Not a complaint that the armadas arenāt spawning, complaint that when they do spawn people canāt see that another alliance has started the armada till they start it too. Guaranteed 3 of these alliances didnāt even know the first alliance had started this armada and effectively washed their directives
upper iron
not a waste, they have the opportunity to kill the leader of the other Alliances and kick them off
zealous otter
Hey scopely, don't worry about putting extra armadas out there or anything
Just leave all the bugs in there, no one will care
wild nebula
Scopely you idiots. Data Extraction event - great. But fix the feckin bugs. Every man and his dog is in Yarda on my server. There are nodes which are apparently occupied, even though there is no ship there. Show some pride in your work - and fix the damn bugs. You are a disgrace to the industry
kindred aurora
I thought the lesson learned from the Borg event was that if you make it possible to find an armada target people will do an event. You're asking each player to call a lot of armadas to complete the event and it's simply not going to be possible.
wild nebula
Its a waste. Instead of coming up with scoring system that incentivises destruction of target - but no - typical Scopely fail again
vagrant topaz
Yes at least make it so the Armada respawns within a few mins to give others chance to launch, this event is stupid
wild nebula
I don't think they have game players at Scopely. They cannot keep royally screwing the pooch event after event, and they just do not get it.
shy crane
Absolutely terrible ... they didnāt even think to correct the issue before starting the event...I have over 60 directives to spend but no armadas to spend on!
quasi horizon
Scopely get ours money back
flat yew
The 2 new events (armardas & data mining) are f'ing awful. Did anyone at Scopely actually think these through? Barely any armardas around to form and the data mining needs you to b online constantly. Get your sh*t together developers!
vapid pond
I'm level 28, i need 10k points to complete the event. I can get 120 at most every 15 minutes.. some simple math makes it 21 hours to complete the event.. provided i have the required 8300 armada credits and can find an armada immediately after each. Even joining armadas.. which you can't do while hosting, i would need to join 500 to complete the event.. Am i doing the math wrong or is this really poorly thought out.
dark vale
@prime gulch get this game fixed, armadaās broken, data mining nodes broken everything in this game is broken.
wild nebula
@prime gulch Sort it out - Scopely by name, incompetant by nature
vagrant topaz
after 30 minutes there was no armada left ... scoply how to get armadas started when there are no armadas left on the map ?
wild nebula
They have not changed the respawn timers - ergo no targets
urban kettle
Hahahaha no armadas to start, awesome event design Scopely.
hearty stag
These devs are the worst!!!!
meager creek
Playing hunt the live armada target not fun. Respawn timers should be way lower
stray harbor
Scopely has major lag issues. We have started several armadas now, finding them unstarted in the system immediately upon viewing, only to later find that other alliances have 3-5 min earlier start times.
light flame
What a steaming pile of ship
thorny perch
What a bugshit. Impossible to find a common, uncommon or epic Armada. Absolutely ridiculous. If you find a free one and you Start it... You remark after 3 minutes that already 3 (!!) other allys placed their flag onto it. Nothing is shown. What is if it's an epic one? All directives lost?
plush hedge
The data mining changes, though not without problems, have addressed most of the huge problems with previous data mining events. I wish Scopely could have invested some of their energy in similarly reworking aramada events. Nothing has changed, and armada events continue to be a complete waste.
vagrant topaz
Increase the respawn rate of armadas!!!
Whole alliance sitting on directives we canāt use. Getting 1 or 2 every few hours between 70 people is impossible to do this event
wooden ledge
More of the same, and it literally takes minutes to find out that 3 other alliances beat you to the armada.
iron violet
Respawn rate for Armadas is horrible for an event like this.
Please increase Aramada respawns.
stone tiger
They learned nothing from the previous armada event
You'd think they did looking at borg... but apparently not
winter talon
Banners do not even reflect the proper reds destroyed. Is everything in this game brokrn?
viscid phoenix
Just launch armadas against already taken ones and collect the solo rewards. Alliance event tiers are ridiculous so no point even bothering with that.
winged axle
Alliance event is actually pretty easy
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88ish unc armadas for 30-75 players. Not that hard
viscid phoenix
If you can find them
winged axle
Unc has an okay respawn rate. Will still require a lot of searching but possible
plush hedge
One thing I do dislike about the datamining event is the glitched nodes. It's particularly painful when half a dozen nodes are broken by the same level 20 player and you can't clear them due to the level difference.
stone tiger
lol searching armadas requires soo many additional restarts 'cause of the extra lag
wild nebula
Armada Event - As an alliance we have completed milestones, and I have done my personal milestones. However, I burnt through Rare Directives on silly small targets just to get the points on board which I would not normally have gone for. I am currently running a small uncommon lvl23 armada, to help some players get destroyed target points. There needs to be more thought put in by Scopely into these "mechanics", which we had been assured they had done. Sadly, Scopely have been found wanting again
frozen lodge
Respawn rates for armadas needs to be drastic ly increased during these events.... What is asked of us is impossible to achieve in current state.... Epic fail again with armadasš¤¦š»
I also LOOOOove losing dictives because lag shows NO FLAGS before I "launch"... & yet 2 or 3 are planted "BEFORE" the second I do.... By like 30+seconds $copely... "working as intended"? Scalping us of any directives we squirreled away???
dusty nova
This event sucks thanks to respawn rates. If your goal was to just have 4 different alliances continuously start an armada on the same node and not actually attack it, 10 times over for the points, then congrats on reaching your goal.
young breach
Any chance weāll get Rare Credit turn-ins opened up like Epics are?
left marlin
I havenāt bought any Armada packs. But if I wasted a Rare or Epic flag from a pack I paid for cuz of this nonsense, Iād be super pissed, and rightfully so. If Scopely doesnāt at least make their paying customers whole, donāt be surprised to see more lawsuits
slate ridge
If you are going to do an Armada event you need to INCREASE THE RESPAWN RATE.
burnt crystal
why is it that borg armadas spawn so quickly and other armadas do not? I really want to understand the reasoning here
tulip grove
Can there be a message prompt "Armada already has a target by XXX" after armada button -> start armada?
static veldt
This is just a total waste of directives. No one can see the other alliances until after starting it.
gleaming gazelle
Have a data event with utterly Fāed up nodes. Nicely done scopely . Typical.
untold kraken
These Armada events are ridiculous. You never have enough targets. The server slows down dramatically. It's a waste of time. Is someone trying desperately trying to hold on to their job? Get with it!
edgy vale
The events today have been horrible. Starting armadas with no one there, only to find out after you spent the directives that you are the 4th in line? Trying to data mine in yarda tonight has been almost impossible...5 instances of attacking other players by accident because the nodes are messed up. Iām actually giving up trying to compete because of it. Please fix this junk!
The game is essentially unplayable at this point
slate elm
Whoever it was that thought āhey, letās make the data nodes really small so that players have to reset their miners all the timeā and managed to get it approved, good job. I mean I was thinking last week, being stuck at home wasnāt torture enough and was looking for some mental punishment to demoralize me even more. Then came this event, and I was like āyay! Now I can experience hell right here at home!ā
gleaming gazelle
Server 15 anyway, the nodes āstickā so after one-three cycles you ship still shows on the node, so unusable until someone from a different alliance āattacks the nodeā AND the armada bugs. Pretty bad even for scopely. 3 events and two are messed up badly.
ember fulcrum
Server lag is costing us armada directives. Spent 600 uncommon and 200 rare directives on Amradas that had already been started because the armada flags didn't show for 2 to 7 minutes after armada started.
Server 17 VinzClorthoKoG
somber hinge
bugs already known from former events... so after augment idiodity the next sensless event, just to throw something to the player. "Bug fixing? who cares... we need new stuff! no time for such bullshit" scopely motto
if you would spent one event month on fixing bugs instead of prlducing such nonsense events, which are constantly buging, you would do your community such a favour... but who cares.
vagrant topaz
100 Armadas without raising the target refresh rate, watching entire servers throw away Armada directives banging 4 deep on one target just to spend them must be hilarious for you all to watch, all while we're supposed to micromanage a Botany Bay every 12 seconds
outer wigeon
Yep, this Armada event kind of sucks due to lack of targets and competition. PVP isn't really an option since it is usually obvious who has the bigger pocket book and will win.
vagrant topaz
Feedback on armada events: š®
Feedback on running data event alongside armadas: š š©
vagrant topaz
Just to be clear, as a standalone event data mining is fine, it becomes an issue when you attempt to combine the constant babysitting needed with literally any other activity.
wintry schooner
These events are shit sorry to say. I'm just doing dailies for a while and grinding rep.
indigo coral
š An Armanda events that canāt find uncommon armada outpost for hours. How funny can it be Scopely š¤·š½āāļø
lament rivet
I do like the game but when it lags glitches and i canāt login to do the events like it is doing it really upsets me when will it be fixed i canāt finish anything and when I get on I canāt do anything š”š”š”
dapper flint
Scopely, try testing your updates before releasing, this is a joke. I'm done paying cash to these amateurs. Thats the only message they will understand, vote with your wallet.
mortal inlet
Borg Cube armadas = fun, coordination, team building, Borg crew synergies ... unicorns and rainbows, really!
This armada event .. whatever it is ... not so much. ... not enough targets/slow respawn, people exploiting the bug with multiple armadas on one target just to score anything, people wasting directives to start an armada in a far away system never intending to fight it out (because you get points just starting it ...). Nope, not working.
compact patrol
So armadas... on our server 20 mins after event starts pretty much every uncommon under 17m is dead and is hit almost as soon as it spawns and still people do not get enough points
So we have taken to just starting the higher level ones and letting them get cancelled repeatedly to spend the many many thousand directives we have we cannot spend to kill armadas during the event because there aren't enough...
Not really optimal design that
tacit pine
This has been a known issue for months, yet still Scopely run an armada event... Total rip off.
light flame
Scopley advice" have you tried turning it off and on again "
Were in the " IT Crowd "
vagrant topaz
Yep and if the armada wasn't already flagged before you force close the app it bloody well be by the time you log back in...clueless Muppets
light flame
Has anyone seen any official comment about this event on this official channel since last night?
How can you get the points to complete the solo event when it's so f ucked up
vagrant topaz
Nope...they've gone full ostrich
light flame
Bet they officially tell me not to swear though
vagrant topaz
@light flame just start impossible to kill armadas and recall ship...100pts no repairs...it's equally as dumb as the event itself but it's all we got
light flame
Cant start armadas I cant afford,I need the points from " beating" armadas but that's impossible
Or I could " buy more armada packs" yeh,my ar se
vagrant topaz
Absolutely no point spending on this event...far too much risk with little or no reward
celest cairn
So, are we gonna get our armada credits refunded? Lost count during this event of the number of times my alliance have started an armada that looked free, only for it to pop up and appear that 3 other alliances are already on it
frosty flint
@celest cairn Open a ticket. If you get no answer, i can provide one. It`s always the same. š
daring grove
Anybody knows when will be the JellyFish event that rewards JellyFish blueprints ?
wild nebula
The baby jellyfish is premium ship and needs to be bought. You can get some blueprints but not all of them required to build the ship.
urban agate
here is some event feedaback, you have no business running an armada event if you cant get your stupid servers to display accurately if an armada is already started or not
hardy imp
Skipped the armada event mostly. Most in my alliance just burned directives to get points because there werenāt enough armadas around. Then it was too difficult to figure out which armadas were ārealā and which were just for the launch points. Kind of a mess.
The solo data mining event was easy but tedious. With two BBs was able to finish in about 45 mins. Effective mining rate 1.5x vs previous model. Not horrible. But zero interest in competing in LB events around new data mining. Just canāt get anything else done while doing active mining, and mining is not fun.
gaunt jacinth
Faction hunt single events arenāt available
shy grotto
where's the single fraction hunt?? when i click on them i see only the ally event
scarlet escarp
Events messed up? 2 albs for faction hunt? Ahhh.. come on scopely
meager creek
Yeah I have the same thing
royal zenith
Same here
dreamy oxide
Faction hunt does not exist. Just 2 Alliance.
late gale
Same for everyone in my alliance in server 28
raw hull
Same on server 20
deep halo
wild nebula
Why does scopely even bother. If its not one thing its another. Just give up and stop wasting players time.
@prime gulch get a grip dude!!!!!
shy grotto
everytime is something new shit. what do you??š”
meager creek
Well for what it's worth an alliance member says he hit 12 faction ships and got a milestone
quick needle
This event was the first time I ever put money into this game, congratulations thatāll never happen again
zealous otter
Don't apologize for the armada event, just the faction hunt. Good job Scopely. You're trying to incite a nerd-march on Culver City? Or another class action?
shy grotto
it works after a restart but i got now 2 times hunt federation
winged axle
It is probably a translation issue
shy grotto
we need a reparation for all the issues the last few weeks. the can make nothing right. everytime is something. š”
quick needle
So Iām level 28, I need 12800 points to get to the next battle pass milestone, thereās 12000 available š”
Iāve not missed a single milestone
stark night
Yep. So 3 days wait instead of 2 you suck scopely it was a pain getting the Dom event done yesterday only to not even make enough today
safe blade
Faction hunt still broken ā¹ļø
stable ivy
Facton Hunt is working. Just the iupdate of your points standings are super lagged
dreamy oxide
Faction hunt is severely lagging in giving points.
stray harbor
As of this morning, the data leaderboard was ending at noon EST. Now, itās extended 2 more days.
acoustic stag
a bit of feedback about the data node changes. Overall, I think it's a positive change. One thing in the back of my mind is that I don't have any incentive to finish leveling the BB and feel like maxing the captain just days before was a bit unnecessary since 9 seconds per node is already annoying enough, i can't imagine how it would feel if it were any less. Also in the back of my mind is, what if we had a server merge? finding nodes for this would be something to dread and the bug of nodes being stuck to a ship no longer mining it would just make it that much worse.
winged axle
Bugged nodes would be probably fixed till a merge and I think node amount is more than enough
If node amount isn't enough then you are already in an active server which doesnt need merges for now so dont worry
acoustic stag
i just find having to spam clicks every nine seconds a bit tedious - it's not bad enough that i don't want to do it at all, and it's much faster so that's been nice
the event and rewards are worlds better than the last data event as well
winged axle
I would prefer leaving the choice of passive and active mining to players.
Put both type of nodes in systems. Fast/Small and Slow/Big nodes. Let the players decide how they want to mine
acoustic stag
^^ that would work for me. A big slower node or small fast, let players take what they have the attention span to do
as it was, i barely had time at lunch to eat a spoonful of noodles between node resets š
green bloom
The data mines issues we should all get free monthly packs
zealous otter
We should all get enterprise a's
vagrant topaz
@acoustic stag the bug with ships ghosting nodes goes away when that ship enters warp or dies...if it happens to your ship recall then cancel warp and return, takes around 40secs in yarda
acoustic stag
sure, but for 10+ minutes i'm locking at least two nodes in the zone until someone goes in for the attack on a ghost.
vagrant topaz
Meh I just recall and cancel...like I said it takes less than a minute to fix and doesn't piss off 40+ players waiting their turn
I keep a spare ship to hold the node in the meantime
lavish patrol
Wouldnāt mind a week of faction hunt until you fix all the bugged events
unique meadow
Limited Time Station Event level range is absurd. Iām lvl 31 and there are lvls 28-40 that I have seen who I am competing with.
Just make it per level. I feel bad for that 28 tho, lol.
green bloom
Is this data mine event a joke? The mines bug out after 8 seconds wtf! Says im still on it. Why wasnt this fixed since thale last one?
limber knot
Have BB blueprints from the Augment store been suspended? Only 12 available. No refresh after 24 hrs.
upper iron
bug, contact support, they have been granting BP to people affected
fading ocean
Anyone remember when was the last ISS JellyFish event? I've been waiting like a month without any luck
wanton schooner
Done every milestone so far every day. An alliance member got enough to open up the 40 mission keys just but I didnāt. Iām 100 short. Iāll get it today but why are people at different points if they not bought points?
vagrant topaz
Scopely botched faction hunt so some got a few extra points there before it was hot fixed...also swarms have been notoriously buggy with point allocation since borg arc1
Short answer: because scopely.
wanton schooner
Ah ok. Suppose I should be used to it lol
wild nebula
Is that an official Scopley answer @vagrant topaz ? If not then please refrain from commenting. The question being asked is a very valid question to be asked. If one cannot trust the scoring system, then the simple question that needs answering is "Are players being conned?"
To clarify, I find myself in a similar position as to @wanton schooner. I am short a couple of hundred points - even though completing events so far. If others are being awarded more points why exactly is that?
wanton schooner
And I did get some milestones before they fixed the bug
wild nebula
@prime gulch - it appears that despite completing all events so far, people have different milestone points. Why is that if both parties have not bought points. I am 400 pts away from my next milestone.
winged axle
@vagrant topaz language
@final zenith @wild nebula I think it is because of the Fac hunt bug that happened yesterday. Some people killed some hostiles and got rewards while event was bugged and then Scopely reset the event and they could gain those points again
final zenith
Ok.thanx...i will check nowš
@winged axle
My language is german....i dont have the Last 800 points? How i can have?
winged axle
You cant now. There was a bug yesterday for 20mins,it is fixed. Wait for event reset for events to refresh so you can get more points
wild nebula
The problem is - the answer you are giving @winged axle is not even the correct answer to give. We rely on the platform to award the correct rewards, at the correct time based on properly calculated scores. The answer you have given basically says well there was a bug - tough. Unacceptable. Do you not see that at the very heart of the question is one of creditability? You answer is bordering on the following - "We are sorry we cannot give you accurate results right now, we are still making them up. "
winged axle
What you got is the right points and correct rewards. There is nothing that says you must complete 1 milestone everyday. There is still more than 2 weeks for you to reach milestone 10. 125200 is the amount you should have if you completed all the events. What others got was a small bonus because of a bug
ionic briar
The leaderboard events become useless because the amount of rss and time spent on getting to higher ranks isnt worth it...
Maybe make the event reward such that, the players get rewards based on points scored but rewards limited to only the top 25 or 50 players
Like for example, rank 1 gets 5 UC gas/ore/crystal per 500,000 data mined. Rank 2 gets 4 UC per 500,000 and so on
We simply reach a point where it isnt worth participating because the time spent wont be worth it
the topmost player in my leaderboard has mined 11M data.... i'm sitting at 3rd rank with 6M data
But it simply isnt worth the headache and the burning sensation in my eyes
but cant stop because if i do, then the time i put in already will be a waste
and all for an avatar and 16 UC gas...
Make the leaderboard such that the leaderboard reward is multiplied by the points scored
jagged mango
Still missing 20k for the milestone 8. So kind of unlikely that the new events will allow me to complete the mission chain in time for the other event.
Maybe different ops level get different points?
sharp token
@jagged mango yes, another event gave 9.6k extra points x 2 for certain ops levels
lavish patrol
@ionic briar I agree with you, this data SLB event was crazy, but there were certain red flags that made me guess why I shouldnāt participate.
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and most important red flag: the duration. A farming event that last 3 days? Hard no. This was an error, 3 ranked SLB as they did with CoW makes sense, you puf the crazy work one day and youāre done.
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red flag: exclusive item not obtainable elsewhere? People will go crazy even if itās just an avatar. Iād love to have the avatar but if my motivation to get the avatar is high, what will be the motivation of other people competing?
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once you start you have to decide whether it gets too hard or keep going until the end. If youāve done one ranked farming event before, youād know. You can easily check that with the number of ādroppersā, meaning people who stop scoring or trying to get in the SLB. If you are 3rd but you have 10 people under you that could advance you quite easily, they will.
Farming SLB are dangerous, theyāre not Scopely fault as literally everyone has a shot in those, so itās players who decide āhow much cost Xā
winged axle
Only thing that Scopely needs to improve about this SLBs is brackets IMO
Rest is fine
lavish patrol
The duration too, you canāt put 3 days farming event, you can actually make people sick from that
24h is fine because it shows who has the highest motivation without sacrificing its health
winged axle
For me 3 day is fine during weekends,but during weekdays yep 24h is much better
lavish patrol
I would strongly suggest to recommend not doing 3 days farming event unless they are ALB and not SLB